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| 00:18.56 | External | TekDroid: http://imgur.com/gallery/KqeZzf1 |
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| 00:27.20 | External | ~shut up |
| 00:27.20 | infobot | I'll think about it |
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| 00:37.31 | External | ~shut up |
| 00:37.31 | infobot | I'll think about it |
| 00:39.53 | External | Monet: https://www.facebook.com/ |
| 00:40.04 | Monet | What |
| 00:41.08 | Monet | I see Facebook |
| 00:46.59 | External | Odd. |
| 00:47.19 | External | I meant to show a video, but it pasted as "facebook" |
| 00:48.51 | External | Monet: https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/1460674030622318/ Fixed |
| 00:54.57 | Monet | SLightly busy, sorry |
| 01:08.16 | DrodoAwayish | test |
| 01:08.20 | DrodoAwayish | Back |
| 01:08.46 | External | Hi |
| 01:09.14 | External | When was the last time Randomness was on? A month ago? |
| 01:09.27 | External | ~shut up |
| 01:09.27 | infobot | I'll think about it |
| 01:09.43 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
| 01:09.46 | External | Darn. I thought there was a "I'll kick you square in the vagina" reply |
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| 01:18.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 01:18.46 | The_Randomness | ayy |
| 01:19.00 | DrodoEmpire | lmao |
| 01:22.20 | External | derps |
| 01:22.33 | External | I was just asking when the last time you were online |
| 01:22.36 | External | was |
| 01:23.05 | The_Randomness | The people you always see AFK are actually me |
| 01:23.06 | The_Randomness | :^) |
| 01:23.19 | External | wat |
| 01:23.31 | The_Randomness | yes |
| 01:29.03 | Hachiman | Wait what |
| 01:29.44 | The_Randomness | dunno, just messing around |
| 01:41.13 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 01:56.58 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 02:07.20 | External | Sporepedia takes so long to load it isn't funny |
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| 02:29.28 | External | ircs ded btw vincnent |
| 02:29.33 | External | *vincent |
| 02:34.29 | Vincent20100 | What? |
| 02:37.29 | Vincent20100 | External |
| 02:37.58 | External | Nobody has said anything for an hour. Or half an hour. Eithe rone. |
| 02:38.03 | External | *Either one |
| 03:15.42 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 03:17.51 | TekDroid | pass |
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| 03:30.23 | Monet | Goodnight |
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| 09:09.02 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 09:17.38 | krow | Hey Techno. I found dis http://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 09:21.26 | krow | Obligatory hello to everyone :v |
| 09:23.36 | krow | Wormy_: http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/Made_of_Explodium |
| 09:27.26 | Wormy_ | Ah, about everything that doesn't explode |
| 09:28.57 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/gNF05Xf |
| 09:32.08 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/mMRAmLQ |
| 09:32.21 | Wormy_ | Just another day's work at Imgur. |
| 09:34.17 | Wormy_ | More Yahootards http://imgur.com/gallery/1ShM7 |
| 09:34.51 | krow | Wormy_: Now that's what I call gold |
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| 09:53.20 | Wormy_ | my mum goes all debt collector on me sometimes |
| 10:08.26 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/RgTom8u |
| 10:25.57 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/U1AcXC3 |
| 10:27.18 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/sAL44Ta |
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| 10:30.16 | krow | Hai |
| 10:30.35 | krow | Trying to pass the time with web programming, but I have no productive idea going on |
| 10:32.57 | krow | So I'm asking... what would you like to see? Or what kind of improvement(s) of something you use daily? |
| 10:35.08 | krow | Anything but a website that writes your fiction for you. |
| 10:36.01 | Wormy_ | Or perhaps develop such a website, a direct neural interface. |
| 10:36.10 | Wormy_ | You will be rich and famous |
| 10:36.16 | Wormy_ | and we will be happy users. |
| 10:36.45 | krow | I need to recruit Imperios first. |
| 10:39.01 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 10:39.16 | Wormy_ | Getting feedback for some of my work today |
| 10:39.59 | krow | And I'm sittin' here slacking while I wait for the truck computers to finish updating so I can then start on the next computer. |
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| 11:20.06 | wormydroid | Hi |
| 11:20.30 | krow | Hey |
| 11:22.25 | wormydroid | hopefully the crappy college will let me in |
| 11:23.52 | wormydroid | got my ID but it has an error that it doesn't say 2015 |
| 11:26.06 | krow | in what manner or way is the college crappy? |
| 11:26.25 | krow | Also, I'm leaning to developing a wiki software |
| 11:27.39 | wormydroid | I will tell you later, its treated my course, students and me appaulingly |
| 11:28.30 | krow | You meant "appallingly"? |
| 11:29.27 | wormydroid | of course I've also been to a proper big university and was spoiled by the experience so that makes me judgemental |
| 11:29.51 | wormydroid | Yes |
| 11:31.00 | wormydroid | last time I went into college to hand in my work, they thought my card was out of date and charged me 4 quid |
| 11:31.33 | wormydroid | printed off me a new one with the exact same error |
| 11:31.41 | krow | That's bullshit |
| 11:31.57 | wormydroid | told them it wad my last day and they hadntvtroubled me all year |
| 11:32.30 | wormydroid | Was hadn't |
| 11:33.43 | wormydroid | now I've been called out of the blue to go in for feedback and I hope I don't have to go through the same thing |
| 11:35.16 | wormydroid | thing is I'm a degree studebt there so they shouldn't treat me likevthat |
| 11:35.40 | krow | Dude |
| 11:35.46 | krow | Go file a complainant |
| 11:36.30 | wormydroid | filed countless, including group complaimts over the years |
| 11:36.50 | wormydroid | nobody cares brcause the college closed my course anyway |
| 11:37.31 | wormydroid | Made all my first year lecturers redundant |
| 11:37.50 | krow | Gather fellow victims and go to a newpaper and tell them about your stories |
| 11:38.24 | krow | Probably won't work so much, but it's worth a try as it will publically expose the college's slanderous reputation |
| 11:38.34 | wormydroid | i had hardly any worthwhile lessons, tutorship or feedback in tye first year because they went "fuckit" |
| 11:40.20 | krow | Apparently my workplace's network has a software that blocks websites that has the word "game" in the url. Also sufficient to be blocked when the website's search metadata and title has it. |
| 11:41.10 | krow | Cue I cannot access to innocent websites due to "policy infrigment" |
| 11:41.24 | krow | But it is a workplace, I have no right to complain about it. |
| 11:41.39 | wormydroid | that is one thing about my college that wasvgood, no blocked Web adresses |
| 11:41.55 | krow | The domain blocking software works, but is wonky in my opinion. |
| 11:42.19 | krow | Wormydroid: use their network to access and watch porn |
| 11:42.20 | krow | :) |
| 11:42.20 | wormydroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.48 | wormydroid | "Journalism" |
| 11:43.56 | wormydroid | Bbl |
| 11:44.01 | krow | It also tags imgur as "a potential source of malicious software and content" |
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| 11:45.00 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 11:46.36 | AdmiralPanda | hai scrublord |
| 11:48.42 | krow | fits about right |
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| 11:49.27 | Monet | Hello |
| 11:49.43 | krow | Hey |
| 11:50.29 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 11:51.39 | AdmiralPanda | so at some point in the future (after Hachi makes up for his ridiculous leave of absence :P) when he needs a break I'll run a one-shot to give the firearm mechanics a try |
| 11:52.11 | AdmiralPanda | though if guns are as ridiculous as I think they are, expect a LOT of big monsters |
| 11:52.31 | Hachiman | There needs to be an Indiana Jones moment hur |
| 11:53.25 | AdmiralPanda | yeh, it'll happen to you |
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| 11:53.40 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 11:55.39 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:55.57 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: yeah I noticed the campaign appears to have halted lately |
| 11:56.12 | Monet | Things were getting quite interesting too. |
| 11:56.14 | AdmiralPanda | that was because Hachi needs to up his organisation game :P |
| 11:56.51 | Hachiman | It will carry on eventually, my holiday has just been crammed with activities I need to attend hur |
| 11:57.07 | AdmiralPanda | yeah, we only hate you slightly for it :P |
| 11:59.19 | Monet | THat's the sting of modern life. |
| 11:59.24 | krow | The only moment I dislike users is when I'm online, but others aren't. |
| 11:59.33 | Monet | Modern technology has made life much easier, but probably also much busier |
| 12:00.03 | krow | Pretty a much irresonate opinion I admit. |
| 12:00.48 | Monet | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/442826522907811558/5E92158A0F7E0A1898C9EC5000D6623F58F472CC/ also I made a SSTO craft |
| 12:01.05 | krow | nice |
| 12:01.59 | Monet | The downside is that its about as expensive as one of my mun rockets. The upside is that unlike my mun rockets, I get almost all my money back from a trip. |
| 12:02.27 | Monet | Its as expensive as a mun rocket but I don't think it has the fuel capacity to get that far. |
| 12:03.20 | Monet | WIth the right tech it could make a cool Kerbin-to-orbit passenger transport though. |
| 12:04.06 | krow | There is a pack that has parts where you can cram in some kerbals and then go |
| 12:05.01 | krow | The parts has no facecam or control functionally however |
| 12:05.12 | krow | have* |
| 12:05.35 | Monet | I'm looking into getting the science for those parts |
| 12:05.43 | Monet | (this thing was built in career mode) |
| 12:06.48 | AdmiralPanda | as I'm sure I mentioned before, either the firearms turn out to be somewhat balanced compared to other ranged weapons in which case screw them because bows are better, or they're broken enough to unbalance combat, in which case I'll consider running a campaign with guns |
| 12:10.21 | Hachiman | Aye that'd be pretty cool |
| 12:11.24 | Monet | Would it be wrong to say a campaign with guns might be interesting? |
| 12:11.39 | Monet | Like you said we'd get to see a great deal of big monsters. |
| 12:12.50 | AdmiralPanda | it *might* be, but since guns become touch attacks within one range increment anything bar the very biggest or very smallest enemies become easy game |
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| 12:15.01 | AdmiralPanda | so basically my concern is that defence and strategy go out the window and it just becomes a DPS race |
| 12:16.14 | Hachiman | I do wonder how spellcasters would fare in a world with guns |
| 12:16.37 | AdmiralPanda | comparatively well actually |
| 12:17.02 | AdmiralPanda | their defences aren't really reduced since armour means jack, their only problem is there's now more by way of ranged attacks that do high damage |
| 12:17.26 | AdmiralPanda | fighters on the other hand choose guns as their weapons or they cry |
| 12:17.37 | Monet | More nuker wizards perhaps. |
| 12:18.09 | AdmiralPanda | abjuration wizards would actually become really popular really fast, since they can protect people in a way armour can't |
| 12:18.37 | Monet | If your enemy has a better chance of killing you at a distance, being able to kill them first would be vital for survival |
| 12:19.08 | Hachiman | Which depends highly on your Initiative roll hur |
| 12:19.20 | AdmiralPanda | peasants with guns > one guy with shiny magics |
| 12:19.22 | Hachiman | Although I imagine this would make for intense sniping encounters |
| 12:19.40 | AdmiralPanda | oh god you just reminded me of the last time I played in a game with guns⦠the horror |
| 12:19.55 | Hachiman | hur |
| 12:20.06 | Monet | The paranoia of a death shot out of nowhere signalling an encounter? |
| 12:20.49 | AdmiralPanda | no, we had a sniper who was reliably delivering 30 odd damage per shot |
| 12:20.54 | Hachiman | Ohgod |
| 12:21.04 | Hachiman | I mean that's generally the point of a sniper but holy shit |
| 12:25.03 | Monet | Insta-kills everywhere |
| 12:25.38 | Monet | And Hachi's right but the question is how many turns a shot was he? |
| 12:26.18 | AdmiralPanda | 0.5 |
| 12:26.26 | Monet | ...2 shots per turn? |
| 12:26.32 | Monet | Oh wait |
| 12:26.34 | AdmiralPanda | this was a seventh level character, btu yes |
| 12:26.57 | Monet | 2 shots per turn that's... |
| 12:26.58 | krow | D&D? ... with guns? |
| 12:27.04 | Monet | That's a fucking SMG |
| 12:27.16 | Hachiman | What about reloads |
| 12:27.18 | Hachiman | ? |
| 12:27.21 | Monet | Or some sort of semiautomatic |
| 12:27.32 | AdmiralPanda | advanced firearm with rapid reload, reloading was a swift action |
| 12:27.42 | Hachiman | Fucking WHAT |
| 12:27.43 | AdmiralPanda | so he could fire as many times as he had attacks, which was 2 |
| 12:27.52 | krow | This definitely sounds like D&D |
| 12:28.03 | Monet | We're talking what, 4 seconds a round? |
| 12:28.08 | AdmiralPanda | we're talking a breech-loading rifle, those things are easy to reload |
| 12:28.18 | AdmiralPanda | 6 seconds a round, 20 RPM |
| 12:28.54 | Monet | That's a bloody semiautomatic. |
| 12:30.18 | Monet | If I remember my history, Breechloaders were the weapon of choice for soldiers in World War I. |
| 12:31.27 | Monet | THen again my knowledge of WWI firearms is ehhh |
| 12:31.29 | AdmiralPanda | we're basically talking the 1866 Winchester |
| 12:31.57 | Monet | So repeater rifles. |
| 12:33.21 | Hachiman | Why even need a party when you have that amount of firepower |
| 12:33.46 | krow | kill off dragons and demons with ease I assume |
| 12:35.49 | krow | But it always be something really powerful around the corner, which you can thank your GM/DM for. |
| 12:36.01 | Monet | Aye |
| 12:36.51 | krow | Speaking of, I really want to get into a D&D campaign, but I wouldn't do that with strangers. |
| 12:36.54 | krow | Personally saying |
| 12:41.13 | krow | Hate it to express this but. |
| 12:41.17 | krow | God I'm bored. |
| 12:48.43 | krow | Good thing that I'll be ending my work schedule 1 hour earlier than normal |
| 12:55.15 | AdmiralPanda | oh also, I discovered something rather interesting today |
| 12:55.52 | AdmiralPanda | contrary to popular belief, a bastard sword isn't partway between a longsword and greatsword, it's actually partway between an arming sword and longsword |
| 12:56.15 | AdmiralPanda | so if you swapped the names "longsword" and "bastard sword" in the pathfinder equipment list and kept their mechanics the same, they'd be right |
| 12:57.02 | AdmiralPanda | as in, a bastard sword is designed for one-handed use but can be used two-handed, a longsword is designed for two-handed use but with special training can be used one-handed |
| 13:00.38 | AdmiralPanda | oh also, would one of you two be open to test running the kingdom rules with me at some point? I've got them figured out again, just need to get a bit of practice to sort it out properly |
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| 13:02.59 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 13:03.09 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: Yeah sure |
| 13:03.15 | Monet | Hello |
| 13:03.48 | AdmiralPanda | alrighty, let me know when you have time and we can work on it |
| 13:09.13 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 13:10.45 | Hachiman | Speaking of guns being ridiculous |
| 13:11.03 | Hachiman | Apparently there are people out there who think you can effectively silence a shotgun in the same manner you can silence a handgun |
| 13:11.11 | Hachiman | And you cannot even properly silence handguns |
| 13:11.58 | Monet | You can make them slightly wuieter |
| 13:12.02 | Monet | quieter* |
| 13:12.45 | AdmiralPanda | well you can properly suppress medium to low calibre handguns |
| 13:13.01 | AdmiralPanda | and you can somewhat suppress the sound of a shotgun blast, just not to the same extent |
| 13:13.27 | Monet | I've seen shotgun silencers. |
| 13:13.35 | Monet | They look...slightly ridiculous |
| 13:13.48 | AdmiralPanda | I've seen a silencer for an artillery cannon |
| 13:13.58 | AdmiralPanda | it literally looked like a giant mechanical penis, complete with testicles |
| 13:14.17 | AdmiralPanda | http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Artillery-Silencer.jpg |
| 13:14.42 | Monet | Oh dear |
| 13:14.49 | Hachiman | The real use for a silencer is, when used in wide and open environments, it makes it difficult for the opposition to really tell where a shot is being fired from by sound alone rather |
| 13:15.08 | AdmiralPanda | well yeah, that was never in question |
| 13:15.20 | Hachiman | A lot of people do not actually know that though |
| 13:15.31 | Hachiman | A handgun is not completely silenced |
| 13:15.49 | AdmiralPanda | you can't completely silence a bullet, it moves too fast. You CAN however suppress it |
| 13:15.59 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 13:16.05 | AdmiralPanda | for all your holier than thou talk you should know there's no such thing as a silencer, only suppressors :P |
| 13:16.37 | Monet | The crack of most rifles iirc is from the ignition of a gas chamber which is when launches the bullet |
| 13:16.43 | AdmiralPanda | ^ |
| 13:16.47 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:16.55 | AdmiralPanda | the pop you hear from a suppressed weapon is the air being pushed out of the way by the bullet |
| 13:17.02 | AdmiralPanda | and that, you have no physical way of preventing |
| 13:17.13 | Monet | These "silencers" you see are more like car mufflers. |
| 13:17.28 | AdmiralPanda | that's pretty much exactly how they work |
| 13:17.50 | AdmiralPanda | anyway I'm gonna go pass out, stuff to do tomorrow |
| 13:17.58 | Monet | Okay |
| 13:18.30 | Monet | A chance encounter with a motorcyclist who had stripped his muffler last year helped me relaise just how loud car engines actually are. |
| 13:19.51 | Monet | Understandable I guess when both firerams and motor vehicles rely on a series of exlosions to propel themselves. |
| 13:21.43 | Hachiman | Aye that's true |
| 13:21.52 | Hachiman | I cannot imagine how loud shuttle launches are |
| 13:23.05 | Monet | Might be similar to a jet engine. |
| 13:23.19 | Monet | Also its not just the volume |
| 13:24.01 | Monet | I can imagine that a noice like a suped up unmuffled car would vibrate across your body. |
| 13:38.52 | Monet | Hachiman: http://orig00.deviantart.net/32dd/f/2014/198/2/f/rodan__terror_of_the_skies_by_blackmatter234-d7qyim6.jpg |
| 13:39.15 | Hachiman | Fucking HELL Rodan |
| 13:39.36 | Hachiman | That is really impressive I gotta say |
| 13:40.08 | Monet | "terror of the skies" indeed |
| 13:40.51 | Hachiman | Imagine King Ghidorah |
| 13:42.51 | Hachiman | King Ghidorah is such a cool monster I gotta say |
| 13:42.52 | OluapPlayer | The wrath of burd |
| 13:43.15 | Monet | http://blackmatter234.deviantart.com/art/There-can-only-be-one-King-474505970 well turns out the artist did have a go |
| 13:43.34 | Monet | Only the heads though but still |
| 13:43.45 | Hachiman | Oh shit that's awesome |
| 13:44.03 | Hachiman | Godzilla's face is amusing though hur |
| 13:44.30 | OluapPlayer | Godzilla's like "ghidorah dude cut it out you're being silly" |
| 13:45.02 | Monet | Wait... |
| 13:45.04 | Hachiman | Ghidorah's other heads look really offended hur |
| 13:45.16 | Monet | The category lists says this shit is 3D |
| 13:45.19 | OluapPlayer | "FUCK OFF YOU OVERSIZED IGUANA" |
| 13:45.45 | Monet | 3d/digital painting |
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| 13:46.03 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 13:46.28 | OluapPlayer | I remember using King Ghidorah as a base to make Atrocius |
| 13:46.30 | Hachiman | Hai Ghel |
| 13:46.53 | Hachiman | dat meens dere needs 2 be a godzilla equivalent 4 atrocius |
| 13:47.14 | OluapPlayer | He's already nemesis with Xitannoth hur |
| 13:47.26 | Hachiman | Xitannoth is not even Godzilla-like hur |
| 13:47.35 | OluapPlayer | He's Rodan-like |
| 13:47.37 | OluapPlayer | A bit |
| 13:47.46 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:48.01 | Monet | Spider-Man - You sure you only needo ne nemesis? |
| 13:48.02 | OluapPlayer | They're both giant pterosauri c |
| 13:48.42 | OluapPlayer | This all comes from someone whose only experience with Godzilla was the american film |
| 13:48.49 | OluapPlayer | THAT'S A LOT OF FUCKING FISH YOU ASSHOLE LIZARD |
| 13:48.53 | Hachiman | hur |
| 13:49.19 | Monet | I remember growing up with the cartoon. |
| 13:49.51 | Hachiman | I remember the video games and the American movie |
| 13:52.02 | Monet | Oh yeah I remember the video games. |
| 13:53.04 | Hachiman | If I recall, according to Japanese Godzilla canon, the original Godzilla's remains were actually used to create one of the MechaGodzilla models |
| 13:53.27 | Monet | It happens withm odels in cinema. |
| 13:53.37 | Hachiman | No I meant |
| 13:53.58 | Hachiman | Godzilla, the character, died and his remains were used to create MechaGodzilla by the Japanese government in-canon |
| 13:54.07 | Monet | orite |
| 13:54.14 | OluapPlayer | I thought Godzilla was invincible |
| 13:54.26 | Monet | He died in the first film |
| 13:54.40 | Hachiman | Nope, Godzilla can die |
| 13:55.13 | OluapPlayer | This is one thing that puts me off of Godzilla. Whenever I read about the character all I see are boasts of how unkillable and undefeatable he is |
| 13:55.32 | Hachiman | But that is wrong |
| 13:55.38 | Hachiman | Godzilla can and has died |
| 13:55.44 | Monet | I'm not clued up on Godzilla lore but I get the feeling the original film was a one-shot. It was one of those things that became so popular that they had no choice but to bring him back or risk losing out on a big franchise opportunity. |
| 13:56.10 | OluapPlayer | I'm to learn of any flaws or weaknesses on the character |
| 13:56.38 | Monet | In the first film he was killed using a device called an oxygen destroyer. |
| 13:56.56 | Hachiman | Ah yeah |
| 13:58.16 | Monet | I think oen of th ethings that makes KIng Gidorah so high on the power scale is he's proven a serious challenge to Big-G |
| 13:58.39 | Hachiman | I actually have no clue how the Oxygen Destroyer works but somehow it both killed the original Godzilla and managed to awaken and mutate a colony of Precambrian crustaceans to become Destroyah |
| 13:59.01 | Monet | Hachiman: Hollywood science. |
| 14:00.27 | Hachiman | Also Godzilla's own power serves as a cause for harm against himself |
| 14:00.36 | Monet | Actually hmm. |
| 14:01.15 | Monet | The Cambrian era is regarded by biologist and geologists as the beginning of unicellular life |
| 14:01.41 | Hachiman | In the film Godzilla vs. Destroyah, Godzilla is dying because of excessive nuclear radiation occuring within himself and has no manner of depleting it |
| 14:02.23 | Hachiman | So he has become a lot stronger but he risked exploding and causing a nuclear catastrophe across Japan upon death because of it |
| 14:03.02 | Monet | I c another anti-nuclear message heh |
| 14:03.48 | Hachiman | Godzilla actually died in that movie, the Japanese military had to bombard him with ice and freezing weapons in order to cool off his remains to ensure the catastrophe could be contained |
| 14:04.17 | Hachiman | Although fortunately upon death, much of his excess radiation was passed onto Godzilla Junior, who is now the current Godzilla in Japanese canon as far as I know |
| 14:04.52 | OluapPlayer | Godzilla - HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SO ANGRY YOU FUCKING EXPLODED |
| 14:05.24 | Hachiman | Funnily enough, Godzilla became severely pissed because he thought Destroyah killed Godzilla Junior |
| 14:05.56 | Hachiman | Godzilla ends up making Destroyah explode if I recall |
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| 14:06.40 | Monet | I can understand why the directors chose for Destroyah to be a form of precambrian life; we don't know that much about the era regarding life aside fro mthe odd fossilised bacteria. |
| 14:06.48 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 14:06.59 | Monet | Hi |
| 14:07.38 | Wormydroid | and the strange Edicaran organisms |
| 14:08.21 | Hachiman | Godzilla vs. Destroyah was intended to be the last film of the Japanese Godzilla franchise and I think it would have been appropriate if it was |
| 14:09.23 | Monet | Its a fact of the industry really. |
| 14:09.33 | Hachiman | Godzilla of the Toho Era is dying and faces off against a mutant kaiju that is a result of the consequences brought on by the usage of the original Oxygen Destroyer that killed the original Godzilla |
| 14:09.45 | Hachiman | And a new Godzilla usurps him and inherits his power |
| 14:11.03 | Hachiman | The only reason more Japanese Godzilla films were made is because of the disappointment caused by the American Godzilla |
| 14:11.47 | Monet | After watching Poltergeist with my class I had an interesting chat over how despite the closed-book nature of the origina lfilms' ending, Hollywood made three sequals out of it. Each of which was worse than the last. |
| 14:13.01 | Monet | Then there's the two sequals and one prqual to Psycho and the sequals of Jaws despite the titular shark oh i dunno *dying by explosion" at the end of the first film. |
| 14:13.55 | Hachiman | It is not the same shark in the Jaws sequels hur |
| 14:14.11 | OluapPlayer | There are 3 Jaws films each with a different shark |
| 14:14.42 | Monet | Yeah. They're films called Jaws...that don't feature Jaws |
| 14:14.42 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxhdo4HDgg There is actually a Godzilla film where Godzilla faces off against the American Godzilla and fucking destroys him |
| 14:14.50 | OluapPlayer | I remember watching the Nostalgia Critic commenting on one of them, the shark chases the main characters through half of the world and at one point lets out a roar |
| 14:14.55 | OluapPlayer | I'm aware |
| 14:15.19 | OluapPlayer | I like the design of the american Godzilla personally |
| 14:15.34 | OluapPlayer | It's liek Godzilla mixed with a thereopod dinosaur |
| 14:15.39 | OluapPlayer | theropod even |
| 14:15.54 | Hachiman | Well Godzilla is a mutated theropod, the problem is that the American Godzilla is a mutated iguana |
| 14:16.15 | OluapPlayer | And the original Godzilla doesn't look like a dinosaur at all |
| 14:16.30 | OluapPlayer | He looks more like a fat humanoid reptile |
| 14:16.44 | Monet | It moves a bit like early T-rex puppets. |
| 14:17.10 | Hachiman | Godzilla has always been kinda fat hur |
| 14:17.18 | Hachiman | Even the new American Godzilla is a fatty |
| 14:17.24 | Wormydroid | I thought it was w mutated cockrowch due to the mythvthey can survine nuclear detonation |
| 14:17.36 | Hachiman | Are you drunk Wormy |
| 14:17.42 | Monet | Until Jurassic Park, perhaps somewhere earlier, most filmmakers were happy with T-rex moving by dragging its tail along the ground. |
| 14:17.48 | OluapPlayer | The new burger-zilla clearly uses the japanese design |
| 14:18.32 | OluapPlayer | The movie might have been bad but I liked the monster for what it was |
| 14:18.43 | Hachiman | I do not disagree that Zilla's design is pretty cool |
| 14:18.52 | Wormydroid | no, just unskilled with w lith a touch keypad |
| 14:19.15 | Monet | That was because Toho loathed Zilla's design and Legendary wanted to be mroe faithful to the more famous design. |
| 14:19.38 | OluapPlayer | I know it had no nuclear breath but instead its roar was so powerful it launched stuff away from it, I always found that cool |
| 14:19.58 | Hachiman | Yeah that is pretty cool |
| 14:19.58 | Wormydroid | And I don't have podgy fat fingers |
| 14:22.22 | Wormydroid | Tes |
| 14:22.44 | OluapPlayer | make sure to read what you're writing before posting hur |
| 14:24.34 | Hachiman | I wonder if there is a name for the trope where something old and something new, often made with the intention of countering the older subject, face off and the older subject wins |
| 14:24.50 | Hachiman | Like the Godzilla vs Zilla battle or the Rexy vs Indominus battle in Jurassic World |
| 14:25.10 | OluapPlayer | "Bit rude" |
| 14:25.11 | Hachiman | Or the Metal Gear REX vs Metal Gear RAY battle in MGS4 |
| 14:26.15 | Monet | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderHeroVsYoungerVillain well there's this |
| 14:26.54 | OluapPlayer | Jurassic World is listed as an example |
| 14:28.00 | Monet | THat was the Rex from the original park? |
| 14:28.05 | OluapPlayer | So is MGS4 |
| 14:28.07 | OluapPlayer | yes |
| 14:28.07 | Monet | That I did not know. |
| 14:28.25 | Monet | I thought they put down al lthe old dinosaurs and started again |
| 14:28.41 | OluapPlayer | Not only it's the same T-rex, she still has the scars of the fight with the velociraptors from the first movie's climax |
| 14:29.53 | Monet | okay. That makes the rex much cooler |
| 14:30.22 | OluapPlayer | She's effectively an elder compared to the Indominus rex but they still fight in roughly equal terms |
| 14:32.25 | Monet | bbl. |
| 14:42.54 | Wormydroid | Test. |
| 14:55.36 | Wormydroid | Nuisance automated callsbshould be made finable everywherehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33442795 |
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| 15:16.00 | TekDroid | Yay, my Vacuum Diagrams book arrived. |
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| 15:35.02 | OluapPlayer | ~tackle Cyrannian |
| 15:35.02 | infobot | ACTION tackles Cyrannian to the ground. |
| 15:35.13 | Cyrannian | ~dropkick OluapPlayer |
| 15:35.13 | infobot | ACTION sends OluapPlayer flying like a yipping chihuahua |
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| 15:45.59 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 15:46.54 | TekDroid | Hello Wormy_ |
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| 15:48.04 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.16 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.36 | Wormy_ | So I'm pretty happy |
| 15:49.06 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.16 | OluapPlayer | our wiggly pride |
| 15:49.34 | Cyrannian | Well done boyo |
| 15:49.49 | Wormy_ | I just hope I get above merit so I can go on to a top up degree |
| 15:50.17 | Wormy_ | Thanks. I hate boasting but its something I can be proud about myself for once |
| 15:50.42 | TekDroid | Well done Wormy_. I DCed so I have no idea what this is about, but good job anyway. XD |
| 15:51.44 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.02 | TekDroid | :O |
| 15:52.52 | Monet | Wormy_: Got similar. I think its normal to not have the feedback told to your face. |
| 15:53.10 | Monet | Its easier on the students and the lectuerers to hear in their own time. |
| 15:53.36 | Wormy_ | Well I hope it goes somewhere, I met people at the British Geological Survey which have 3D and visualisation departments, I specialised my own area 3D sci-vis, it was pretty independant and hard at times because I had only myself |
| 15:53.54 | Wormy_ | And made contacts with them |
| 15:54.03 | Wormy_ | I need a mentor on my desk top up |
| 15:54.05 | Monet | Its very good t oestablish contacts. |
| 15:54.07 | Wormy_ | *next |
| 15:55.11 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.42 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.11 | Monet | Nice! |
| 15:56.28 | Wormy_ | brb dinner |
| 15:56.39 | Wormy_ | They also said I'm more artistic than I think |
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| 16:30.35 | Cyrannian | Hello dino! |
| 16:31.15 | dino82_ | hello all! |
| 16:31.19 | dino82_ | How is allz doing! |
| 16:31.34 | dino82_ | oh now this looks nice! http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3e/The_Fortress_of_Finkrath.png/revision/latest?cb=20150710162636 |
| 16:33.03 | OluapPlayer | Thanks dino |
| 16:33.58 | Wormy_away | Seems like an interesting user http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:The_Kaernk |
| 16:34.54 | Cyrannian | I'd say. Never met a 298 years old before. |
| 16:35.04 | Cyrannian | *year old person |
| 16:40.21 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/S1lUE |
| 16:45.50 | Wormy_away | villains acting good http://imgur.com/gallery/fQtPj |
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| 16:48.11 | Wormy_away | now I like raccoons http://imgur.com/gallery/8YcPFck |
| 16:50.23 | Wormy_away | don't take tiny kids to a blowing alley http://i.imgur.com/Yo4UyD4.webm |
| 16:50.31 | Wormy_away | bowling |
| 16:52.23 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/War_for_Capricaer%C3%B3n - Take a look guise |
| 16:52.47 | OluapPlayer | suks dik 10/10 |
| 16:54.32 | Cyrannian | liek u |
| 16:55.59 | OluapPlayer | u done gud stinky now write moar |
| 16:56.28 | Cyrannian | Have to make and update a few characters first |
| 16:56.42 | Cyrannian | Like Nirndal, he hasn't been seen since Mar-Júun kerploded |
| 16:57.37 | OluapPlayer | Mar-Júun - bein outdated shi fits u |
| 16:58.16 | Cyrannian | Nirndal - rude |
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| 17:20.15 | External | Hola |
| 17:39.15 | External | test |
| 17:39.42 | Ghelaway | ~give External a pie |
| 17:39.42 | infobot | ACTION gives External a home-baked apple pie |
| 17:39.53 | External | :) |
| 18:28.30 | Wormy_ | I hope the Red Devil appears this year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didi_Senft |
| 18:29.12 | External | Huh./ |
| 18:29.15 | Wormy_ | http://sports.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/gallery/el-diablo-tour-devil/tour-de-france-devil-didi-diablo-15.jpg |
| 18:29.53 | Wormy_ | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F25B9TrY5HY/UALZfvuug0I/AAAAAAAAI0A/MhESrIWwbxk/s400/cycle+sights+15_7_12+The+Red+Devil+in+Winter.jpg |
| 18:30.02 | Wormy_ | The world needs people like that. |
| 18:32.33 | Wormy_ | "How do the riders go to the toilet?" section XD http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/02/tour-de-france-2014-bluffer-guide |
| 18:35.44 | External | What happened to sporewiki.ucoz? |
| 18:40.20 | Wormy_ | What is that? |
| 18:43.52 | External | Hold on.... |
| 18:44.29 | External | http://sporewiki.ucoz.com/ |
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| 18:44.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 18:46.53 | OluapPlayer | Never seen that before |
| 18:51.11 | External | Hm. |
| 18:55.58 | Wormy_ | Well, what was it? |
| 18:57.12 | External | I have no idea what it was. |
| 18:57.33 | External | I thought you knew what it was. It was on Xi'Arazkha's quotes. |
| 19:11.07 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Erissare - some updates |
| 19:11.40 | OluapPlayer | y an axe and not a staff |
| 19:11.48 | OluapPlayer | staff is more sneaky |
| 19:13.30 | External | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kideaza#Gallery Does anyone not see the last 6 pictures in the gallery, or is my computer dum? |
| 19:13.34 | Cyrannian | She still has a staff, she just doesn't want to break it while caning her child servants and so she carries her dvottie-beak axe around instead |
| 19:13.45 | External | *anyone see |
| 19:14.10 | OluapPlayer | "You lead your empire well, talking cleavage." gets me every time |
| 19:15.31 | Cyrannian | hur |
| 19:16.31 | OluapPlayer | Not even Dvotties are safe from her, it seems |
| 19:18.52 | dino82_ | the pieces are moving for the final clash between the Void and the mortal realm :D:http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:RuvielLarge.png |
| 19:19.02 | dino82_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ruviel_(1).png |
| 19:19.20 | Cyrannian | Oh very cool dino! |
| 19:20.27 | External | Nice |
| 19:20.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm cool |
| 19:20.45 | dino82_ | thanks |
| 19:20.48 | dino82_ | she is very deadly |
| 19:20.59 | External | I especially like the wings. Now THOSE, are cool. |
| 19:21.36 | External | Lemme ask again. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kideaza#Gallery Does anyone see the last 6 images in the gallery |
| 19:21.41 | dino82_ | thanks :D |
| 19:22.23 | External | I'm downloaded her so I can see how you made the wings. |
| 19:22.29 | External | *downloading |
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| 19:22.39 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 19:22.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 19:23.05 | Cyrannian | External: I see them |
| 19:23.12 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 19:23.20 | External | I can't. All it shows is blue text |
| 19:23.46 | Hachiman | Spending time with my family severely demotivates me from doing things |
| 19:24.00 | External | Well, purple-ish-blue-ish text |
| 19:25.56 | Hachiman | I have already made it clear to my family that I am not accompanying when they move to France in some years time |
| 19:28.44 | External | ARRRRGHHH WHY WON'T THE GALLERY WORK |
| 19:29.50 | OluapPlayer | ~cuddle Hachiman |
| 19:29.51 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
| 19:31.16 | dino82_ | @external: have fun :D, and feel free to use those wing designs ofcourse :D |
| 19:31.41 | dino82_ | @External: Nice creature,that one is dangerously armored |
| 19:34.28 | Wormy_ | Giant Hogweed is such a ghastly plant http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-33474810 |
| 19:34.51 | Wormy_ | It's sap causes burns to skin exposed in sunlight and re-occurs for years |
| 19:37.34 | dino82_ | I once encoutered a bug that when irritated causes second degree burns, sometimes nature is truly insane |
| 19:38.49 | Wormy_ | Type "giant hogweed injury" into google images if you dare |
| 19:39.06 | Wormy_ | they look like first degree burns |
| 19:42.46 | Monet | Hachiman: Any idea what year they plan to move? |
| 19:44.13 | Hachiman | 2017 - 2018 |
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| 19:45.51 | Monet | Hallo |
| 19:46.19 | Monet | Hachiman: My thoughts are your university options, if you plan to take that up |
| 19:46.39 | Hachiman | I do |
| 19:47.00 | Hachiman | Either Portsmouth or Brighton |
| 19:47.21 | Wormy_ | I haven't looked into it though, but tuition fees for international students is often cheaper |
| 19:47.45 | Wormy_ | I don't know about France but keep that in mind. |
| 19:47.52 | Hachiman | I am not moving to France |
| 19:47.57 | Hachiman | I fucking hate the idea of it |
| 19:48.06 | Monet | Wormy_: I don't think moving to france and studying in England is a viable option. |
| 19:48.43 | Hachiman | Plus it would mean I am still living with my parents and the thought of that makes me cringe |
| 19:48.45 | Monet | I have a classmate from Botswana who had to pay his tuition fees in full. He didn't have the luxury of student finance paying for it. |
| 19:48.45 | Wormy_ | Monet: No, I mean Hachi actually studying in France. Then again he he *lives* in France it might change |
| 19:48.56 | Hachiman | I am not studying in France |
| 19:49.08 | Hachiman | UK is the option I have academically |
| 19:49.22 | Monet | Hachiman: That's the best chance I see of you staying in England. |
| 19:49.37 | Wormy_ | Some countries in Europe its much cheaper for students to study abroad. Heck free still in a few |
| 19:50.08 | Wormy_ | Likewise, its often cheaper for EU students coming here, which pisses me off to no end. |
| 19:50.17 | Monet | Yeah but not all European countries use the English payment system. |
| 19:51.16 | External | dino82_: Thanks! |
| 19:51.34 | Monet | I think to apply to a university as a citizen of that country they need to have lived in that country for a certain number of years |
| 19:51.50 | Wormy_ | The people who put in tuition fees benefited from efucation without them. Universities have become more commercial as a result and started throwing out lecturers with any personality or knowledge. The smaller unis anyway |
| 19:53.21 | Wormy_ | I think it was Blair |
| 19:53.45 | Wormy_ | Sorry for the rant, I've ended up diverting the discussion. |
| 19:54.39 | Monet | We in the UK have it lucky |
| 19:55.24 | Hachiman | My family's plan is to set up some sort of hotel or something in a rural area of France after their retirement from the police and earn income that way while spending the rest of their lives drinking and doing whatever they want |
| 19:55.29 | Wormy_ | I myself want to live in Scotland, a Nordic country, or maybe parts of Spain (its nice away from tourist traps) |
| 19:55.40 | Hachiman | Which basically leaves me in the fucking dirt because I do not wanna do that |
| 19:56.09 | Monet | Tuition fees are costly, but are paid back via a portion of your taxes, and only for individuals earning above £20,000/year. And after 30 years all that money is written off. |
| 19:56.11 | Hachiman | I do not want to work as staff for my parents' hotel or whatever, I want to work in the media industry |
| 19:56.19 | Monet | The tuition fee loans that is |
| 19:57.27 | Wormy_ | The media industry is big in France. I'm not saying don't make decisions for yourself, but there is always a positive. |
| 19:57.35 | Monet | I wonder if what confuses students is either the fact that they owe a massive amount of money, or the confusion with the American system where the money comes entirely from parents or family. |
| 19:57.43 | dino82_ | youre welcome External |
| 19:57.44 | dino82_ | hello Monet! |
| 19:57.48 | External | dumputer |
| 19:57.48 | Monet | Hello |
| 19:57.56 | External | y u no load pictures |
| 19:58.01 | Hachiman | Media industry is larger in England |
| 19:58.37 | Monet | Larger and closer ties to American media. |
| 19:58.37 | Hachiman | Plus I know fuck all about France or the people in it while I have friends remaining in England |
| 19:58.41 | Wormy_ | I do suppose animation and VFX is growing in the UK again with all the American films made here |
| 19:59.21 | Hachiman | I already struggle with a social life as it is without moving to a country where I cannot even talk to somebody in the same goddamn language |
| 19:59.50 | Monet | ALs oby the sounds of it you're moving to the old part of France. |
| 20:00.09 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 20:00.16 | Hachiman | Well they are, I am not |
| 20:00.20 | Wormy_ | I understand that. I have avoidance anxiety, but don't let it have a hand in your decisions. |
| 20:00.54 | Monet | I think Hachi's already made up his mind. |
| 20:01.19 | Hachiman | There is nothing for me in France and my parents do not see that |
| 20:01.41 | Monet | Best course of action then is to find an ideal Englsih university and look into staying in Halls |
| 20:02.43 | External | Computer reset incoming |
| 20:02.45 | External | 1 |
| 20:02.46 | External | 2 |
| 20:02.48 | External | 3 |
| 20:03.02 | Wormy_ | Don't need to tell us |
| 20:03.14 | Wormy_ | But yes, do what you want |
| 20:03.45 | Wormy_ | Uni experience is coming :D |
| 20:03.49 | Wormy_ | bbl |
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| 20:05.10 | Monet | If your parents want to move to france and take you with them, then they *should* consider that you want to go and do media at university. |
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| 20:06.40 | Monet | It sounds like you've made it clear that you don't want a career as a hotel attendant. |
| 20:07.19 | Hachiman | Plus it sounds sad as fuck being a staff member for your own parents |
| 20:09.09 | Monet | Oh yeah definitely. |
| 20:09.30 | Monet | Wait |
| 20:10.25 | Monet | "spending the rest of their lives drinking and doing whatever they want" >> So basically they want ot act like a number of young British peopel do when they're on holiday? (only more mature hopefully) |
| 20:11.09 | External_ | PICTURES STILL WON'T LOAD |
| 20:11.40 | Hachiman | Yep |
| 20:11.52 | Hachiman | Except no because they are not mature when drunk at all |
| 20:12.05 | Hachiman | They argue and get overly-sensitive and stupid when they drink |
| 20:13.04 | External_ | Fixed it. :) |
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| 20:13.34 | External_ | Well most of it. |
| 20:17.50 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/X3RqdQa.jpg |
| 20:19.28 | External_ | lol |
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| 20:25.37 | External_ | Pastarios: Great internet? |
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| 20:34.30 | Pastarios | Wow |
| 20:34.55 | Pastarios | So the first Warcraft movie images were shown and the fans are already complaining about lore discrepancies |
| 20:35.16 | External_ | ... |
| 20:35.22 | External_ | dum |
| 20:35.53 | External_ | On the Sporepedia, why are the highest-rated creations look the worst? |
| 20:36.14 | External_ | \I mean http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=ftr-vehicle%3Aview-top_rated |
| 20:36.36 | Monet | Pastarios: Such as? |
| 20:37.43 | Monet | Hachiman: Well I'm definitely behind your decision to stay in England. |
| 20:37.56 | Pastarios | Well some are valid |
| 20:38.08 | Pastarios | Like this for example is one of the props http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/july/sdccBP04.jpg |
| 20:38.12 | Monet | Some are valid, some are nitpicking? |
| 20:38.15 | Pastarios | The flag specifically |
| 20:38.51 | Monet | Lions ,arrows and a gear. |
| 20:39.00 | Monet | And gryphons |
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| 20:39.43 | Pastarios | Right |
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| 20:39.57 | Monet | And gryphons |
| 20:40.42 | External_ | Why the "Pizza", "Pasta" and "Dog"? |
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| 20:40.58 | External_ | Why the "Pizza", "Pasta" and "Dog"? |
| 20:41.05 | Hachiman | I do not see what is wrong with the flag |
| 20:41.07 | External_ | I WANNA KNOW STOP LEAVING |
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| 20:41.20 | OluapPlayer | He's in Italy |
| 20:41.25 | Hachiman | External: He is currently in Italy |
| 20:41.30 | External_ | Oh. |
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| 20:41.34 | Monet | Is Italy's broadband infrastructure really this bad? |
| 20:41.46 | External_ | Apparently so. |
| 20:41.47 | Pastarios | So this flag http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/july/sdccBP04.jpg has a gnome cog and NE arrows & hippogryphs on it |
| 20:41.54 | Monet | Hachiman: Well on the modern Alliance banner the arrows represent the Night Elves. |
| 20:42.04 | Pastarios | And the movie is based on Orcs and Humans |
| 20:42.05 | Monet | But I don't see why they can't represent the High Elves |
| 20:42.12 | Pastarios | I.e WC1 |
| 20:42.35 | Monet | I believe what is happening is retoractive continuity. |
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| 20:42.53 | Monet | The original WCI mentioned HEaven and Hell, not The Light. |
| 20:43.07 | Hachiman | Weren't Night Elves chronologically members of the Alliance prior to WC1? |
| 20:43.16 | OluapPlayer | No |
| 20:43.24 | Monet | HAchiman: No one knew of the Night Elves until WCIII |
| 20:43.25 | OluapPlayer | No races knew Night Elves existed into halfway through WC3 |
| 20:43.31 | OluapPlayer | until |
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| 20:43.51 | Monet | And the Orcs found out by wandering into Ashenvale Forest and started cutting it down unaware that they existed. |
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| 20:44.03 | Monet | So the NEs sent a few welcome arrows |
| 20:44.46 | External_ | Uh. |
| 20:44.52 | External_ | "Azaza" |
| 20:45.10 | Azazarios | It's a Russian thimf |
| 20:45.12 | Azazarios | Thing |
| 20:45.26 | OluapPlayer | get back home so we can do fiction pls |
| 20:45.27 | Azazarios | It represents annoying teenager laughter |
| 20:47.59 | Connectios | So what did you say Monet? |
| 20:48.44 | Monet | Connectios: Which bit did you miss? |
| 20:49.05 | Connectios | Most of it |
| 20:49.37 | Monet | Blizz may be doing a retcon of their stuff |
| 20:49.52 | Monet | WCI stuff is very different compared to WCIII stuff |
| 20:50.09 | Monet | So the banner you see oculd represent gnomes ,dwarves, humans and high elves |
| 20:50.28 | External_ | I have no idea who is the real Imperios |
| 20:50.33 | External_ | Anymore |
| 20:50.44 | Hachiman | Stop being dum |
| 20:50.52 | External_ | nu |
| 20:51.00 | Hachiman | Seriously |
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| 20:51.10 | External_ | Fine. I will. |
| 20:52.36 | Azazarios | Right |
| 20:52.57 | Azazarios | Thing is I do not really think the Alliance was around during WC1 |
| 20:53.10 | OluapPlayer | It is now |
| 20:53.13 | OluapPlayer | Praise Metzen |
| 20:53.14 | Azazarios | Maybe this prop could appear later on in the film? |
| 20:53.51 | dino82_ | have to go |
| 20:53.52 | dino82_ | bye bye |
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| 20:54.05 | Monet | Or it could be an unused asset |
| 20:54.32 | OluapPlayer | Imp is now GREEN JESUS |
| 20:54.35 | Thrallios | OluapPlayer: There is no God but Metzen and Thrall is the prophet of Metzen |
| 20:54.37 | Monet | Either that or it could be (and i fidn this somewhat likely) the banner represents a more informal alliance. |
| 20:54.39 | Hachiman | Or it is just that Warcraft's cinematic universe is separate from the game universe(s) |
| 20:54.53 | Thrallios | Hachiman is correct |
| 20:54.58 | Monet | I highly doubt that the kingdom of Azeroth had no ties to the Drarves and Gnomes of Khaz Modan |
| 20:54.58 | Thrallios | It is like with Marvel |
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| 20:55.34 | OluapPlayer | If Metzen was making the movie then there'd be no humans, just pink orcs |
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| 20:59.33 | Pastarios | Metzen participates in the movie |
| 20:59.50 | Pastarios | But he is kept in reins so only half of the movie will be about orcs |
| 21:00.08 | OluapPlayer | Imagine a Metzen + Matt Ward crossover |
| 21:00.20 | OluapPlayer | The level of writing might create a real Eye of Terror |
| 21:01.01 | Pastarios | Warchief Kaldor Draigo of the Ultramarine Horde |
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| 21:07.43 | Hachiman | I imagine they would be at odds because Matt Wards treats humanity as being superior to orcs while Metzen treats orcs as being superior to humanity |
| 21:08.26 | Monet | Lol |
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| 21:09.00 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 21:09.39 | TekDroid | Hello |
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| 21:14.36 | Monet | How is your signal so bad? |
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| 21:24.38 | Hachiman | spuh |
| 21:24.52 | Xho | DIE IN A PIT |
| 21:24.54 | Xho | Hi |
| 21:25.13 | Monet | Hallo |
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| 21:26.21 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AMahanayan I redid this entire page and no one noticed |
| 21:26.27 | Xho | Not particularly happy |
| 21:26.50 | Pastarios | Hachiman Xho: https://youtu.be/CoQ-sxxdEac Something to cheer you up |
| 21:27.43 | Hachiman | 9/11 no explosion |
| 21:28.04 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 21:28.10 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzIXW70Ydeg |
| 21:28.13 | OluapPlayer | I noticed but you've been ded all day |
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| 21:29.29 | Dogerios | Is it just me or are Mahanayans now what the Xhodocto originally were |
| 21:29.55 | Xho | Yeah I suppose so |
| 21:30.17 | Hachiman | Ohgod that fucking ET Vine |
| 21:30.39 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Fortress_of_Finkrath meanwhile I started a thing |
| 21:36.06 | Xho | Dragons on Koldenwelt are currently going berserk |
| 21:36.15 | Xho | dam dergons |
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| 21:37.19 | OluapPlayer | If by dragons you mean one dragon hur |
| 21:37.42 | Xho | Well there is the Dragon Speaker story as well |
| 21:37.49 | Xho | Which I haven't added to in centuries |
| 21:38.38 | Dogerios | OluapPlayer: >Flame Kaiser |
| 21:38.46 | Dogerios | >Kaiser |
| 21:39.04 | OluapPlayer | Welcome to several months ago |
| 21:39.04 | Xho | anschluss.wav |
| 21:39.16 | OluapPlayer | Fire Drake leaders have been called kaisers ever since I made Interivastius |
| 21:39.18 | Dogerios | Now I wonder if there are also Fire Kanzlers and Cinder Führers |
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| 21:40.14 | OluapPlayer | Now ded |
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| 21:40.58 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AMahanayan But can people actually quote on this or not |
| 21:42.16 | Pastarios | I remember Inter's title but always assumed it to be his personal title |
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| 21:44.39 | Dogerios | OluapPlayer: Always thought Interview's title to be unique |
| 21:44.42 | Dogerios | Hi Cura |
| 21:45.03 | Dogerios | Xho: I managed to meet Tybusen IRL yesterday |
| 21:45.03 | Xho | Oluap's gone |
| 21:45.21 | Xho | Dogerios: Bet that was awkward |
| 21:45.36 | Technobliterator | how'd it go? |
| 21:45.44 | Dogerios | Strangely enough it was not |
| 21:45.56 | Dogerios | Although he outsmarted me once |
| 21:46.54 | Xho | rekt |
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| 21:52.16 | Xho | Goddamn all I want is a few quotes on that page |
| 21:52.26 | Xho | Apparently it's hard to ask of someone to do that |
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| 21:59.58 | Hachiman | Xho: hav dum quotes |
| 22:00.06 | Xho | gud nao fuk of |
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| 22:21.03 | Hachiman | Hai Aeo |
| 22:21.09 | Aeo | hi |
| 22:22.37 | Aeo | Eh, I may as well ask this, do you think it would be possible to do a serious and pretty long crossover between SW and one of my off-wiki stories which would be non-canon, but in a realities altered way where it's still taken seriously? I'm asking the whole chat this, by the way. |
| 22:24.01 | Aeo | My web serial is going to finish up its first volume in a month or two and I've been thinking that might be part of how I celebrate. |
| 22:25.05 | MOnetAway | I'd be up for it. |
| 22:26.50 | Aeo | I'm currently thinking about how my characters would interact with yours. Angel of Death, (the serial) operates on a different kind of morality than SW, though that's not to say it's black and white. It's more like... well, I'll just explain the premise. |
| 22:27.11 | MOnetAway | Okay |
| 22:27.41 | Hachiman | Here we go |
| 22:28.12 | Aeo | The main characters are liches who have to eat human (or any sapient, but it's on 21st century earth) souls to survive, and they have to do it about 1 every night. They can't kill themselves. Trying to starve themselves will lead them to frenzy and eat hundreds of people, which is more than they'd eat if they ate normally. |
| 22:29.17 | Hachiman | Pretty shit liches then |
| 22:29.21 | Aeo | The main character is a very morally upright person and a lot of his conflict is in how he can be a good and morally upstanding person given that his very existence is such that he must perform immoral behaviors to survive. |
| 22:29.58 | MOnetAway | I take it he hasn't been a lich for very long |
| 22:30.36 | Aeo | You're going to have to be willing to compromise your preconceived notion of what a lich is. They deviate in several places, though they're still clearly liches because they are magical, undead and have phylacteries. |
| 22:31.02 | Hachiman | Becoming a lich in fiction is usually a matter of choice although it may differ here |
| 22:31.32 | Aeo | Hachiman: He chose, but did so not knowing that he'd have to do what he'd have to do. |
| 22:32.34 | Aeo | Monet: He becomes one at the start of the series, so no. A major theme of the story is the idea which seems to hold mostly true that once one loses their soul literally by casting it into a phylactery, they do not immediately lose it figuratively by abandoning morality, but doom themselves to either die very quickly or do so in the future. |
| 22:34.22 | MOnetAway | Its nor really losing one's physical soul though is it. |
| 22:34.27 | Aeo | Whether or not that is always going to be true is up for debate, however. There are five "good" liches who have been seen or mentioned. Of them, only two are older than any human could be, and only one is legit old even as far as they go. We don't know much about him, however. |
| 22:34.50 | MOnetAway | Its being stored in something the lich keeps in their posession |
| 22:35.47 | Aeo | Monet: But it's not in them normally, and may well be a long way away. (There is no distance limit.) |
| 22:36.01 | Hachiman | So how would Sporewiki tie into this? |
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| 22:37.02 | Aeo | Well, my first thought is that I'd plop a series of liches into it and just kinda see how the universe reacts to them. |
| 22:37.23 | Hachiman | Like so far I have not seen anything that really differs from Sporewiki's moral boundaries |
| 22:37.54 | Hachiman | Liches are probably not going to be treated as too big a deal considering what else we have on the wiki hur |
| 22:39.59 | Aeo | Not boundries, but dynamics. Sporewiki (in general, and to varying degrees) rejects concepts of good and evil, or at least doesn't concern itself with them as a central focus. Angel of Death is principally about moral questions. |
| 22:41.17 | Aeo | So like, when, spoiler, the main character slaughters a crowd of innocent people to increase his companion's magical power because he urgently needs to be able to do a currently-above-his-level-spell to save the world, is that right? |
| 22:41.56 | Hachiman | Were there alternatives? |
| 22:42.15 | Aeo | Yes. He could have let the world be taken over by the villain. |
| 22:42.47 | Hachiman | As in, alternatives to completing the spell that were not conveniently forced by plot |
| 22:43.28 | Aeo | Not really. I mean, he could have chanced it, but the odds would have been absurdly slim. |
| 22:44.21 | Aeo | In a lot of stories, that's exactly what the protagonist would have done. Take it on faith that another option would become available. |
| 22:45.35 | Hachiman | So considering the needs of the many over the needs of the few |
| 22:45.56 | Aeo | Yes. |
| 22:46.54 | Aeo | But if you were to drop Cody in the SWFU, he could pretty much be of one mind with Riffrex in thinking "Y'all are awful." |
| 22:46.59 | Hachiman | Also I wouldn't say that Sporewiki really "rejects" the concept of good and evil, we do have clearly good and clearly evil characters in fiction |
| 22:47.47 | Hachiman | Hachiman is quite clearly a character intended to invoke "good", characters such as Shu'wokerama are intended to invoke "evil" |
| 22:48.17 | Aeo | I suppose. |
| 22:49.34 | Monet | There is a heaven and hell vibe in the meta but things do get more grey when we talk at the empire or perhaps battlefield level. |
| 22:50.08 | Hachiman | And taking note of alien and humanlike ideologies |
| 22:50.11 | Monet | Like the death of that Valocanus guy. |
| 22:50.50 | Aeo | Right. Relatively liberal rights-respecting but still selfish nations are the highpoint (unless you put the Aeons above them) and it all goes down from there. |
| 22:51.36 | Monet | Actually the death of the Valocanus guy could be an interesting one |
| 22:51.41 | Aeo | Well, there's the KSRO and, until the schism, the cooperative. |
| 22:51.48 | Aeo | Valocanus? |
| 22:52.01 | Monet | The guy Tyraz killed in a public execution |
| 22:52.03 | Hachiman | Isn't Valocanus the guy that Tyraz tore apart for cowardice and treachery? |
| 22:52.09 | Hachiman | Ah yes |
| 22:52.28 | Monet | When he was sentenced he was given a choice by the tribunal of execution or beign stripped of everything. |
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| 22:53.40 | Monet_ | Couldn't change my name for some reason |
| 22:54.05 | Monet_ | Anyway, Valocanus considered death a more dignified sentence than becoming houseless. |
| 22:54.25 | Monet_ | ...that was before Tyraz declared he wanted to be the gy's executioner. |
| 22:54.25 | Hachiman | And then Tyraz stepped in and requested to be his executioner |
| 22:54.29 | Monet_ | Yeah |
| 22:54.55 | Monet_ | Had Tyraz not intervened, his death would have been a bullet to the head. Still in public, but faster. |
| 22:55.31 | Hachiman | Tyraz, meanwhile, made a rather gruesome spectacle of Valocanus' death after losing control of himself |
| 22:55.47 | Monet_ | We all do things we regret when we're angry. |
| 22:56.28 | Hachiman | Valocanus had insulted and mocked Tyraz prior |
| 22:57.24 | Hachiman | And Valocanus had also contributed significantly towards intelligence for whoever it was the Imperium was fighting at the time, although again that may have been a life or death issue |
| 22:57.55 | Monet_ | TIAF |
| 22:58.28 | Hachiman | Ultimately I feel that Valocanus, according to customs, did deserve to be executed yet I feel he did not deserve to be made to suffer |
| 23:00.48 | Monet_ | It was pretty gruesome. |
| 23:01.30 | Monet_ | IIRC Tyraz became a giant demon as payback for Valocanus calling him short. |
| 23:02.07 | Hachiman | Aye hur |
| 23:02.34 | Hachiman | I will not defend Tyraz when I say that he has made some utterly unforgivable mistakes |
| 23:02.36 | Wormy_ | hI |
| 23:02.37 | Monet_ | Shame the execution ended up pissing off one of the great noble houses |
| 23:03.00 | Monet_ | House Valocanus has at leas three praetors in its roster. |
| 23:03.57 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:04.30 | Monet_ | That would give it at least nine seats on the homeland council. |
| 23:05.42 | Monet_ | Wouldn't surprise me if Alessa, or any of Uriel's daughters, have been wooed by princes of Grand House Valocanus |
| 23:06.16 | Aeo | IDK how AoD's mains would react to a place like the DI, other than Valthakar, whose reaction to anything is "who can I use my 12,000 years of magical power to fuck with?" |
| 23:07.08 | Aeo | Though in the context of the wikiverse, Valthakar isn't that powerful. |
| 23:07.49 | Monet_ | Valthakar soudns like he'd make a beeline for the hotspots of the point-one-percent |
| 23:08.30 | Hachiman | Sounds like Nu |
| 23:08.51 | Aeo | Only if it was to eat everyone's soul there, preferably with as many people forced to watch as possible, and hopefully with some torture. |
| 23:09.11 | Monet_ | Shit |
| 23:09.18 | Monet_ | Okay then new ideal place |
| 23:09.28 | Monet_ | One of the mega-malls of the Salpathi district. |
| 23:10.03 | Aeo | Perhaps. |
| 23:10.23 | Monet_ | Wait not Pastaht, that's the "slums" |
| 23:10.27 | Monet_ | Jombarica. |
| 23:11.01 | Monet_ | "As I took a stroll down 230th avenue I saw four florists', two mechanics', five IT stores and eight cafes, and all on the same section of pavement" - Joharn Pasarus |
| 23:11.33 | Aeo | So... it's a tardis mall? |
| 23:12.05 | Monet_ | Well...they're huge but not "bigger on the inside" huge |
| 23:12.08 | Hachiman | Sounds like a standard mall actually |
| 23:12.31 | Aeo | Only with more redundant stores which would actually be bad because they'd compete. |
| 23:12.36 | Monet_ | Actually Joharn is describing a rather standard street |
| 23:13.27 | Aeo | It might be more fun to see Bavandersloth, the chessmaster, try to get political power in the Imperium. |
| 23:13.57 | Monet_ | http://media.hotnews.ro/media_server1/image-2015-05-14-20134759-0-mega-mall-4.jpg something a little like thisi s common in Jombarica |
| 23:14.51 | Aeo | His strategy might be to offer his services as assassin to a house. He could turn invisible, inflict disseases and injuries to kill rivals, and walk away all with plausible deniability. |
| 23:15.12 | Monet_ | http://www.jeddahpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/serafi_mega_mall_jeddah6.jpg ooh |
| 23:15.29 | Hachiman | That will become more difficult in a world where the Imperium is beginning to delve into the science of Descension |
| 23:15.45 | Hachiman | And also the fact people with Essence powers are on an increase |
| 23:16.14 | Aeo | They wouldn't necesarilly be able to counter a magic which is completely unrelated. |
| 23:16.19 | Hachiman | As are means to actually counter Essence |
| 23:16.22 | Monet_ | After the success of the Orovilus program, a lot of the larger hosues probably have personal psychics. |
| 23:17.43 | Monet_ | I do wonder if Bavandersloth could offer himself as a private assassin. Noble houses may like ot field private armies but actual hot wars between houses is frowned upon by the majority of the senate |
| 23:18.09 | Monet_ | After all such wars devastated the Imperium at least twice. |
| 23:19.22 | Monet | But they still enjoy the odd underhanded tactic. |
| 23:19.27 | Hachiman | I wonder if mercenaries count as private given that they are not entirely equipped or funded by their client |
| 23:19.31 | Hachiman | And are more independent |
| 23:19.50 | Aeo | He would do that if he could. AoD liches can inflict any dissease or injury on you that they want if they're touching you, so there'd be no way to prove the assassination hadn't just been a heart attack. |
| 23:20.32 | Monet | Hachiman: "Private" refers to how the armies in question are not owned or operated by the state. |
| 23:20.43 | Monet | or a state |
| 23:21.05 | Aeo | Unless he was detected, which might be a problem. In our world, liches are a bitch to do anything to. In the SWFU... idk. |
| 23:21.42 | Hachiman | So whether an army is actually built and funded by a House or an external army is simply hired for a client, both count as private? |
| 23:21.53 | Aeo | It does occur to me, though, that maybe I should save the SF universe for a later crossover once more sci-fi elements make their way into the series. Then again, no reason not to do it more than once. |
| 23:22.30 | Hachiman | Aeo: Well consider that the SWFU has many devastating hi-tech elements to it without the whole prominence of Essence |
| 23:23.18 | Aeo | true. |
| 23:23.35 | Monet_ | Hachiman: Yes, as they are private as i nthe private sector of the economy. |
| 23:24.49 | Monet_ | I think in a lot of cases houses prefer hired armies rather than building them themselves. |
| 23:25.58 | Monet_ | The home-built option might be more popular with either the extremely rich houses, or the ones with either major support or a personal hold on a PMC or an arms manufacturer. |
| 23:26.13 | Hachiman | Zazane clans probably like a mix of both |
| 23:26.46 | Hachiman | Mercenaries are not actually too much slack in Zazane society |
| 23:26.55 | Hachiman | given too much slack even |
| 23:27.45 | Monet_ | The whole "Money before honour" thing? |
| 23:28.44 | Hachiman | Not really |
| 23:28.59 | Hachiman | I mean, mercenaries have their honour as much as soldiers and warriors do |
| 23:29.34 | Hachiman | And they can and do often fight alongside standard regiments or personal guards |
| 23:29.41 | Hachiman | bbl |
| 23:30.00 | Monet_ | OKay |
| 23:43.28 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AIntergalactic_War/Sporewiki_Movie - Remember this? |
| 23:44.00 | Wormy_ | Well that died |
| 23:44.53 | Wormy_ | After doing a course that involved production / postpruduction, I can't bare to look at my War of Ages videos |
| 23:45.03 | Cyrannian | I like how Mush elected himself executive producer |
| 23:45.17 | Wormy_ | heh |
| 23:52.19 | Aeo | Monet_: Maybe I've been thinking about this the wrong way. What if instead of my characters going into the sporewiki fiction universe, a selection of sporewiki characters came into mine? |
| 23:53.14 | Monet_ | Hmm |
| 23:53.34 | Monet_ | 27th century characters on 21st century Earth. |
| 23:54.43 | Monet_ | I think the issue here migh tbe the tech and scale gap |
| 23:55.17 | Aeo | Which is solved if the SW characters are taken without their consent and can't take their tech with them. |
| 23:55.33 | Aeo | It's not like Uriel keeps a spaceship in his ass. |
| 23:56.22 | Monet_ | No but he has a signet ring that allows his throne to keep hi mhealthy. |
| 23:57.06 | Aeo | signet? |
| 23:57.24 | Monet_ | Yeah. A signet ring |
| 23:58.41 | Monet_ | http://www.masterengraver.com/images/jewelry/signet3.jpg one of these |
| 23:59.22 | Aeo | I see. |
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