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| 08:24.43 | Tybusen | wow |
| 08:24.53 | Tybusen | all y'all europeans are lame |
| 08:25.09 | Tybusen | the one time I'm actually on your continent all of you are gone |
| 08:25.12 | Tybusen | figures |
| 08:25.21 | Liquid_Ink | It was like that when I went to France |
| 08:25.31 | Tybusen | I was in France yesterday |
| 08:25.35 | Tybusen | Right now I'm in Rome |
| 08:26.50 | Tybusen | I'm guessing everyone is either at work or at school |
| 08:27.10 | Tybusen | Either that or literally everyone is like me and doesn't wake up until 1 PM |
| 08:30.30 | Liquid_Ink | According to the taxi driver when I was in France, this is the time of year they go on holidays. |
| 08:31.24 | Ghelae | Tybusen: I'm European (assuming England counts as Europe) and I'm here. |
| 08:31.43 | Ghelae | But no, most people won't arrive for a few hours. |
| 08:31.51 | Liquid_Ink | France is quite eager to insist it isn't. |
| 08:33.00 | Tybusen | I suppose it's unusual for me since I'm used to seeing the channel full at around late morning/early afternoon |
| 08:33.13 | Tybusen | But that's evening for you European blokes so |
| 08:34.00 | Tybusen | Anyways I have to get going soon so I hope I see you guys later today |
| 08:34.14 | Ghelae | Okay; bye. |
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| 12:17.01 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:17.08 | krow | Oh hey Monet |
| 12:17.46 | Monet | hi |
| 12:20.06 | Monet | I noticed that in the second half of GTA V, the Triads believe that Michael and Trevor are gay lovers. They say its because they sa Michael and Trevor living in Trevor's trailer, but I'm sure it must also have to do with how the first public sighting of Trevor in Los Santos was Lazlow mistakenly thinking Tracey - Michael's daughter - had two dads. |
| 12:20.53 | Monet | They interrupted her audition for Fame or Shame. |
| 12:21.21 | krow | Monet: Got time to talk further about the post-engagement affair we had last night in #katar? |
| 12:22.44 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.25 | Monet | On a side note is it wierd that one of my favourite distractions in GTAV is golf? |
| 12:27.20 | Hachiman | Hey Monet |
| 12:27.23 | krow | My favorite distraction in the game happens to be bike racing. |
| 12:27.47 | Monet | krow: Motorcycle or bicycle? |
| 12:27.56 | krow | As in motorcycle |
| 12:27.58 | Hachiman | I do not suppose you are aware of new Warhammer: Age of Sigmar setting are you? |
| 12:28.37 | Monet | Hachiman: No. But the name sounds intriguing |
| 12:28.52 | Hachiman | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar and http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar |
| 12:29.05 | Monet | krow: I prefer the sports bikes. |
| 12:29.21 | krow | Monet: 2slow |
| 12:29.35 | Hachiman | Warhammer: Fantasy Battle is gone as of The End Times and it now takes place in a new world built by Sigmar and modelled off of the nine worlds of Yggdrasil in Norse mythology |
| 12:29.48 | Hachiman | With each realm being built from an associated Wind of Magic |
| 12:29.50 | Monet | krow: Not sports bicycles |
| 12:30.01 | krow | Oh |
| 12:30.44 | krow | Well. What was I thinking anyway? Sports bicycles sounds too silly for me |
| 12:31.02 | Hachiman | Oh and Sigmar has managed to resurrect the souls of deceased tribesmen killed by the Warriors of Chaos in the old world into the new world in the form of the Stormcast Eternals - Space Marines but in Fantasy |
| 12:31.03 | Monet | Chaos - That's a nice reality you have there. Shame if someoen were to mess it up hurhur! |
| 12:31.31 | Monet | krow: I thought that's what BMXs were |
| 12:31.47 | Hachiman | And practically everything but humans have gone through a silly name change for maximum copyright hur |
| 12:32.51 | krow | Monet: Ah, we usually just call them BMXs. |
| 12:33.26 | krow | I was thinking more of the fashion of ricer |
| 12:33.40 | Monet | I like how Sigmar created these nine realms and when Chaos invaded he buggered off to hide in his version of Asgard. |
| 12:33.51 | krow | https://www.google.se/search?q=ricer&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nxidVbjSKobnywPvppfQCg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=969 |
| 12:33.56 | krow | ricer cars |
| 12:34.00 | Hachiman | Aye exactly |
| 12:34.54 | Monet | krow: These pictures remind me of the time Jeremy Clarkson made a DIY car splitter out of plywood. |
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| 12:35.04 | Wormy_ | Hi] |
| 12:35.13 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:35.18 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:35.27 | Hachiman | Although apparently the Ninth Realm is affiliated as a region of the Warp and Sigmar and whatever allies he has are supposedly planning a campaign to assault it, which will make things interesting given that the Ruinous Powers are rarely ever confronted on their home turf |
| 12:35.31 | Wormy_ | Added loads to this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War/Trials_of_Kilnok |
| 12:36.26 | krow | Monet: Hearing that reminds me of that episode of Top Gear featuring a "elder-friendly" Fiat car that later in the episode breaks down into thousand pieces. |
| 12:36.58 | krow | It was priceless |
| 12:37.40 | Monet | I vaguely remember that |
| 12:37.53 | Monet | The car with the squeaky toy under the pedals right? |
| 12:38.15 | krow | Monet: http://www.imcdb.org/i575611.jpg |
| 12:38.27 | Monet | I rememebr it now lol |
| 12:38.51 | Monet | I never liked the front look of that Fiat |
| 12:39.52 | krow | Well. there is more https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7169/6652556585_78a4ed0b27_z.jpg |
| 12:40.01 | Wormy_ | Someone told me those cars look like skin cancer |
| 12:40.15 | Monet | Whoever decided that divide between the bonnnet and the windscreen should have been fired. |
| 12:40.53 | krow | Monet: It's the work of Richard Hammond so yeah |
| 12:41.31 | Monet | I don't mean the bodywork |
| 12:41.37 | Monet | http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/Fiat-Multipla.jpg I mean the model itself |
| 12:41.52 | Monet | Wait.... |
| 12:41.56 | Wormy_ | Krow, who are you? |
| 12:42.03 | Wormy_ | Are you new |
| 12:42.06 | Monet | Oh dear heavens above they made multiple models of it! |
| 12:42.35 | krow | Wormy_: drom |
| 12:42.46 | Wormy_ | ah |
| 12:42.57 | krow | It's work backwards, just like my name being the Swedish word for murder backwards |
| 12:43.05 | krow | unintentional picking of username I say |
| 12:43.09 | Wormy_ | I see |
| 12:43.31 | krow | Monet: ah |
| 12:43.47 | krow | There is even more! http://pics.imcdb.org/0is692/topgearfiatpandalimo12.5939.jpg |
| 12:43.51 | Wormy_ | A tiny part of me thought you was Irsk, come back because people were making fiction out of his galaxy again |
| 12:44.13 | Monet | krow: THe Giant Panda! |
| 12:44.16 | Wormy_ | Then I saw you on Cyrannus and realised you are probably an extant user |
| 12:44.43 | krow | Top Gear surely love to pimp the fuck out of Fiats |
| 12:44.44 | Liquid_Ink | "Extant user" |
| 12:45.12 | Monet | krow: They know how to pimp out any car. |
| 12:45.33 | Monet | Well, they love to pimp out any car |
| 12:45.56 | krow | I mean, they turn Fiats into what was used to be a Fiat |
| 12:47.07 | Monet | I do love how whenever they have a challenge that invovles sprucing up the public service, Jeremy *always* comes up with a heavily modded coupé |
| 12:48.05 | krow | Keep in mind that Jeremy also brought a fucking steam-operated locomotive against a car during a challenge |
| 12:48.56 | krow | Spoiler: the car won the challenge, Richard Hammond who was driving the motorcycle was the biggest loser |
| 12:49.08 | Monet | http://revdata.com/system/image_assets/files/000/000/023/original/resized-top-gear-ambulance-porsche-944.jpg?1424075414 Jeremy's idea for an ambulance. |
| 12:50.41 | krow | Is it wrong if I lost at the metal appendages and the 999 'serial'? |
| 12:51.11 | Monet | That's not a serial |
| 12:51.22 | Monet | Well |
| 12:51.24 | Monet | 999 is the number for emergency services in the UK |
| 12:51.43 | krow | Makes it even better for me |
| 12:51.48 | Monet | And those metal appendages at the front are rams. |
| 12:52.07 | Monet | Only Jeremy Clarkson could think it's a brilliant idea to fit a cowcatcher to an ambulance. |
| 12:52.34 | krow | I like this car http://www.topgear.com/car-news/classic/video-lambo-engine-fiat-500 |
| 12:53.55 | Monet | That's a noise you don't normally hear coming from a Fiat. |
| 12:54.27 | krow | duh |
| 12:54.52 | Monet | Its got flameburts and an extendable spoiler! |
| 12:55.24 | krow | Yeah, that's the part where I was completely sold |
| 12:56.54 | krow | Top Gear will always be the best TV show for everyone |
| 12:57.00 | krow | Always |
| 12:57.28 | Monet | dunno about everyone. |
| 12:57.29 | krow | (except for the part where BBC ruined it) |
| 12:57.50 | Monet | You eaither love Jeremy Clarkson or you despise him. |
| 12:58.15 | Monet | I was a bit dissapointed when Jimmy returns Michael's black Obey to find Jimmy had fitted it with dollar-sign hub caps. |
| 12:58.16 | krow | Well, the trio left the show, didn't they? |
| 12:58.30 | Monet | The inner middle class person in me cringed at those hub caps. |
| 12:58.55 | krow | Pft haha |
| 12:59.29 | Monet | I was fine with him tuning the engine, tinting the windows and adding a small spoiler. |
| 12:59.58 | Monet | But I got rid of those rims ASAP. |
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| 13:01.13 | Monet | Those rims were also gold. |
| 13:01.14 | krow | at least it will learn us a valuerable lesson about lending out your car to your young teenagers |
| 13:01.31 | krow | well how the fuck did he get the money? |
| 13:01.54 | Monet | He might have sponged off his mum |
| 13:03.00 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: Interdimensional travellers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igRbL9HpqFw |
| 13:03.29 | krow | brb |
| 13:03.37 | Monet | If I ever have a child, I'll let them have m car but the only thing they'd be allowed to change is the engine. If they wantot mod the body or the wheels they can buy their own car. |
| 13:03.42 | Monet | want to* |
| 13:07.36 | Monet | Also he changed the horn to "la coucaracha" |
| 13:10.10 | krow | Jimmy is one of the characters designed to make you to point and laugh and cringe at the same time. |
| 13:10.43 | Monet | Isn't that half the millennial cast? |
| 13:11.13 | krow | Of course, but in my eyes, Jimmy is one of the most extreme cases. |
| 13:12.42 | Monet | Jimmy is what you get when you cross a CoD kiddie with a rich white kid who thinks he can be ghetto. |
| 13:12.43 | krow | I can count Badman in GTAIV for his sometimes uncomprehendible 'dialect' and funky vocabulary. |
| 13:13.32 | Monet | You mean Real Badman. |
| 13:13.36 | krow | Muhammed and Roman |
| 13:14.01 | krow | Yeah, Real Badman |
| 13:14.13 | Monet | :heycousinletsgobowling!: |
| 13:14.45 | krow | It's Mohammed not Muhammed. >.< |
| 13:15.18 | Monet | Can't remember which one's Mohammed. |
| 13:16.00 | krow | The abusive taxi driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cONyVSzZ6aQ |
| 13:16.24 | Monet | Oh him |
| 13:16.28 | krow | For me, he is R*'s parody of every GTA player's driving and immaturity combined |
| 13:19.28 | Monet | I remember this guy |
| 13:21.12 | Monet | Loves his wife -> Tells Niko he can make love to his wife for wanting to change the radio station |
| 13:29.20 | Monet | "Dude Mohammed ran into a gas tank and killed me. Never called Roman again..." |
| 13:29.34 | Hachiman | hur |
| 13:30.36 | Monet | All these people who claim Mohammed is lethal |
| 13:30.41 | Monet | Was I playing the same game? |
| 13:31.03 | krow | I never called Roman so I don't know |
| 13:33.49 | krow | Updating these truck computers on a 25 bit/s radio connectivity is killing me |
| 13:33.54 | Monet | Ever noticed hwo every taxi in GTA plays the Latin radio station? |
| 13:34.58 | krow | Don't they throw you out when you try to change the radio? |
| 13:35.53 | Monet | Not that I've experienced |
| 13:36.24 | Ghelae | Wormy_: I've read about the green children, woman-in-a-boat and Laxaria/Sakria one, but not the other two. |
| 13:36.42 | krow | Updating these computers takes 6 hours per each on an average and I have only finished two so far. 5 to go |
| 13:39.57 | krow | Apparently Greece's president has been accused of trying to pull a "trojan", namely "attempt to replace democracy with dictatorship". |
| 13:41.22 | Wormy_ | Lets home we are not victim to rogoe wormholes |
| 13:41.34 | krow | prime minister, not president |
| 13:41.55 | Wormy_ | There's one story where a man disappeared down a country lane, and his cries were occasionally heard there |
| 13:43.02 | krow | Wormly_: EMLI5 rogoe wormholes |
| 13:43.09 | krow | Explain Me Like I'm 5 |
| 13:43.14 | Monet | krom: I can sort of see that |
| 13:43.36 | Monet | I mean, considering how much he tried to persuade the peopel to vote "no". |
| 13:44.15 | krow | That smug face http://d3.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2015/7/8/a57a1626-9b21-4b39-bcee-2d9cfd7934fa/original.jpg?id=1298192 |
| 13:44.45 | Monet | BLoody hell Farage! |
| 13:45.12 | Wormy_ | Krow: There probably isn't such a thing |
| 13:48.36 | krow | 15 mins left on my work schedule before I go home |
| 13:49.24 | Wormy_ | In physics, other universes are most often not transversible. But if they were, maybe its where people vanish and lost travellers fall through. Lets hope we don't become them |
| 13:51.34 | krow | Don't mind the left. The grill to right is covered in gnats. http://d1.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2015/7/8/80c7da8f-abf7-42a1-bf13-3d13f10a03b1/original.jpg?id=1298264 |
| 13:53.19 | Wormy_ | hopefully not the biting kind |
| 13:55.14 | Wormy_ | http://www.strangehorizons.com/2008/20080512/kensler-a.shtml |
| 13:55.17 | krow | Well, it is northren Sweden, so that's the biting midges. |
| 13:55.25 | Wormy_ | That might be the story I was looking for |
| 13:55.29 | krow | these are the* |
| 13:55.40 | Wormy_ | I feel itchy looking at it |
| 13:56.46 | krow | horse-flies are worse |
| 13:59.27 | Wormy_ | Clegs we call them here |
| 13:59.36 | Wormy_ | neck biters |
| 13:59.38 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 13:59.53 | Wormy_away | I don't like assassin bugs |
| 14:00.09 | krow | Wormy_away: We call them "bromsar" |
| 14:00.18 | krow | transliterally "brakes" |
| 14:00.42 | krow | Also "blinning" |
| 14:00.50 | krow | ... "blinds" |
| 14:03.42 | krow | Time to go home |
| 14:03.46 | krow | Bye bye |
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| 14:04.38 | LuxorPL | Hey |
| 14:05.30 | LuxorPL | I just wanted you guys to know that I opened another forum thread, where you can post your ideas for resources and/or minerals, as in the first thread previously. |
| 14:05.33 | LuxorPL | So that's all, bye |
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| 14:08.58 | Hachiman | Hai~ |
| 14:09.29 | Monet | Hello |
| 14:11.00 | OluapPlayer | honk |
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| 14:32.42 | External | I hate it when you wake up with bad breath, Your mouth feels and tastes like shit. |
| 14:33.30 | Monet | rushing your teeth tends to send it away quickly |
| 14:33.33 | Monet | Brushing* |
| 14:33.53 | External | I did. But I still hate it when you wake up like that. |
| 14:34.18 | Monet | It does feel disgusting |
| 14:40.47 | Ghelae | Do you brush your teeth before you go to sleep? |
| 14:41.38 | External | Usually. |
| 14:48.05 | Ghelae | Tried mouthwash? |
| 14:48.28 | External | Nope. SHould I? |
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| 14:48.51 | Ghelae | It might work. I never seem to have a problem with a disgusting mouth in the morning. |
| 14:49.15 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
| 14:49.15 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 14:49.28 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 14:49.29 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 14:49.40 | Cyrannian | ~explode OluapPlayer |
| 14:49.40 | infobot | ACTION blows up OluapPlayer with bombs |
| 14:57.51 | Wormy_away | Yeah. Mouth wash also soothes ulcers |
| 14:58.50 | Wormy_ | Monet, Hachiman: I pushed the artist-scientist trope rather than athirhesistic tripe with the Tahar |
| 14:58.57 | Wormy_ | *trope |
| 14:59.27 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War/Trials_of_Kilnok |
| 14:59.49 | Wormy_ | Perhaps next I shall give them strokes of genius to complement the social naivity |
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| 15:03.06 | External | STUPID FREAKING COMPUTER GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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| 15:10.29 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 15:11.27 | Xho | u |
| 15:11.45 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 15:11.52 | Monet | hi |
| 15:14.52 | Wormy_ | I guess I could base a mineral on this and make it more useful https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbertsmithite |
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| 15:18.05 | Wormy_ | There are lots of minerals with strange properties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedrite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasicrystal |
| 15:18.28 | External | Bac? |
| 15:18.55 | External | "quasicrystal" I like that name. |
| 15:26.28 | Wormy_ | They were long thought to not exist. There are theorems and physical explsnations why five fold symmetry is not possible in standard crystals. |
| 15:27.12 | Wormy_ | But these things are not quite the same. Their formation is not entirely understood but grains of quasi-crystal are associated with asteroid impacts |
| 15:27.31 | Ghelae | Aliens. |
| 15:27.36 | Ghelae | What else could it be? |
| 15:27.38 | Wormy_ | They are like a thing "out of this world" |
| 15:27.47 | Wormy_ | Took the word out my mouth |
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| 15:28.56 | Wormy_ | hiu |
| 15:29.14 | Tybusen | Hello europeans |
| 15:29.15 | External | hi |
| 15:29.21 | Tybusen | i'm in your country |
| 15:29.23 | External | *Puerto Rican |
| 15:29.35 | Tybusen | visiting your tourist traps |
| 15:29.53 | Hachiman | England? |
| 15:30.20 | Tybusen | Italy right now |
| 15:30.29 | Ghelae | Hello again. |
| 15:30.31 | Hachiman | Funny because Imp is in Venice currently |
| 15:30.38 | Tybusen | Oh sweet |
| 15:30.49 | Tybusen | I'm gonna be there tomorrow |
| 15:31.13 | Tybusen | Hai Ghel |
| 15:32.16 | Ghelae | It was about four hours after you left this morning that IRC started to become more active. |
| 15:33.07 | Tybusen | I'll keep that in mind |
| 15:33.54 | External | Brb |
| 15:34.13 | Tybusen | When I get to London I'll know when you're all too distracted with the Internet to notice me raiding your pantries |
| 15:34.27 | Monet | Lol |
| 15:34.43 | Monet | I don't think any of us live in London though |
| 15:34.49 | Tybusen | Yeah |
| 15:34.59 | Monet | 2xpensiv |
| 15:35.00 | Wormy_ | is offended being called a Londoner |
| 15:35.15 | Tybusen | I know Wormy's in Derbyshire and Xho is in Southampton |
| 15:35.39 | Wormy_ | Are you going to France by any chance? |
| 15:35.39 | Xho | Houthsampton |
| 15:35.48 | Hachiman | I am in Sussex hur |
| 15:35.57 | Tybusen | Actually I was in Paris yesterday |
| 15:36.28 | Hachiman | Although really I come from Bristol and beyond the nationalities of my grandparents I honestly have no idea from which genetic lineage I stem |
| 15:36.29 | Wormy_ | I'm watching le Tour de France. |
| 15:36.46 | Wormy_ | You could have waved at the camera |
| 15:36.53 | Tybusen | Hachiman: That's easy, you're descended from bunnies and anime |
| 15:37.20 | Tybusen | Wormy_: Unfortunately I was nowhere near the racecourse |
| 15:37.22 | Hachiman | Except I'm not even Japanese |
| 15:37.36 | Tybusen | *British anime |
| 15:37.57 | Hachiman | hao dat even possible |
| 15:37.59 | Tybusen | Brittanime |
| 15:38.13 | Tybusen | Hail Brittanime, Brittanime rule the waves |
| 15:38.20 | Xho | Hachiman: Uzbekistani |
| 15:38.40 | Wormy_ | Liquid_Ink went le Tour the other year and I tried to find him |
| 15:38.54 | Wormy_ | on TV of course |
| 15:39.48 | Monet | Where do your grandparents hail from? |
| 15:39.51 | Tybusen | I was watching the Tour when I was waiting at Orly |
| 15:40.44 | Hachiman | Monet: English heritage as far as I know hur |
| 15:40.45 | Monet | Tybusen: London overrated, go 2 Oxford. |
| 15:41.28 | Tybusen | Monet: nah man but the giant ferris wheel tho |
| 15:41.35 | Hachiman | Wormy_: I was looking into Stephen Baxter's novel Anti-Ice which works off of an interesting alternate history premise; the discovery of a semi-stable form of antimatter residing in the South Pole by British explorers which is utilised by the British Empire to innovate almost steampunk technology |
| 15:41.52 | Hachiman | I was wondering if semi-stable antimatter could exist |
| 15:42.26 | Hachiman | The substance is canonically called "anti-ice" which provides energy on the scale of antimatter when heated up |
| 15:42.29 | Wormy_ | Hm, Baxter is brilliant at finding obscure physical possibilities. But I do not think it is from my nowledge |
| 15:42.34 | Tybusen | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_W-T-lFP0 BTW I don't know if you saw my latest work yet |
| 15:43.33 | Monet | I live ten minutes from Oxfoed and I wonder now if I am more closely tied ot bunnies than Hachi. I was born in the county the White Rabbit visited. |
| 15:44.02 | ExternalBRB | Back |
| 15:44.48 | Wormy_ | One of my favourite of Baxter's technology was the Silver Ghost teleporter that can split the wavefunction of electrons |
| 15:44.59 | Hachiman | Tybusen: Why |
| 15:45.04 | Ghelae | You couldn't have any kind of semi-stable antimatter, no. Not in the sense that it can avoid annihilating upon contact with its corresponding matter particles. |
| 15:45.19 | Monet | https://artclecticacademic.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/file66.jpg this is at the Oxford Natural History Museum. Which has a booth dedicated to Alice in Wonderland. |
| 15:45.23 | Tybusen | Hachiman: because it's the slam jam |
| 15:45.35 | Ghelae | Although when isolated, antimatter should be just as stable as its equivalent matter. |
| 15:45.53 | Wormy_ | Have you read the book, is it actually antimatter? |
| 15:46.22 | Monet | http://snaptasteblogit.com/uploads/3/1/9/9/3199311/6359304_orig.jpg?377 |
| 15:46.25 | Wormy_ | Maybe it is trapped in the mineral, like with Star Trek's dilithium |
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| 15:46.34 | Hachiman | I haven't read it but TvTropes claims it is some obscure form of antimatter |
| 15:46.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 15:46.42 | Wormy_ | Not that such a thing in nature is likely |
| 15:46.48 | Tybusen | Could you theoretically build structures with antimatter in the same way that you would with matter? Theoretically, of course, since we can't really do it ourselves |
| 15:47.11 | Hachiman | Theoretically yes |
| 15:47.17 | Tybusen | I'm assuming that antimatter is essentially the same as matter except that it explodes when we handle it |
| 15:47.17 | Monet | Tybusen: Theoretically antimatter behaves identical to normal matter |
| 15:47.23 | Ghelae | That's correct. |
| 15:47.26 | Tybusen | Ah |
| 15:47.26 | Monet | Well |
| 15:47.48 | Monet | Exept with antimatter the charges of the proton and the elctron are reversed |
| 15:48.09 | Tybusen | It behaves similarly enough that you could, say, build a house with it? |
| 15:48.18 | Wormy_ | This is a good site http://kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/search.php |
| 15:48.19 | Monet | Yes |
| 15:48.32 | Tybusen | Given you were a living antimatter entity of course |
| 15:48.45 | Monet | If there are antimatter aliens out there, they'd likely have a similar perception to us |
| 15:48.48 | Hachiman | Literally the only difference between matter and antimatter is reversed charges |
| 15:48.52 | Ghelae | Basically, antiparticles are oppositely-charged versions of "normal" particles. There are some differences in high-energy particle physics due to a phenomenon called "CP violation", but in practice they're identical. |
| 15:49.11 | Monet | Only we'd be the ones made of stuff that goes boom in a native environment. |
| 15:50.00 | Tybusen | I'm guessing pure energy like EM waves act neutrally towards both, right? |
| 15:50.03 | Tybusen | Or at least, the same |
| 15:50.31 | Monet | Don't think so |
| 15:50.40 | Monet | You'd need an antiphoton wouldn't you? |
| 15:50.44 | Ghelae | As far as electromagnetism is concerned, antiprotons and positrons are just other types of charged particles |
| 15:50.59 | Ghelae | And antiphotons are just photons. |
| 15:51.09 | Monet | Oh |
| 15:51.31 | Ghelae | For basically the same reason as photons are uncharged (so a particle identical to a photon but with the opposite charge is just a photon). |
| 15:52.04 | Tybusen | Is there an antineutron or are neutrons the same between the two? |
| 15:52.11 | Monet | No |
| 15:52.15 | Monet | Neutrons have no charge |
| 15:52.27 | Ghelae | You can have antineutrons, since neutrons are made up of charged quarks. |
| 15:52.38 | Ghelae | So antineutrons are made up of the corresponding antiquarks. |
| 15:53.09 | Tybusen | So it's still neutrally charged but does it still annihilate when in contact with a neutron? |
| 15:53.14 | Ghelae | Yes. |
| 15:53.19 | Monet | I'm stepping a little out of my depth now. So in my return to familiar territory: this story sounds like it was inspired the particle physics experiments conducted at the mgnetic poles. |
| 15:53.34 | Monet | inspired by* |
| 15:53.50 | Tybusen | That could be an interesting story, an attempt at contact between matter beings and antimatter beings |
| 15:53.58 | Ghelae | You can even have antineutrinos which are distinct from neutrinos, which goes to show that the matter-antimatter distinction is a little more complicated than opposite charges. |
| 15:55.05 | Tybusen | EM communication between a matter race and an antimatter race should be possible if waves as we know them act the same with antimatter |
| 15:55.07 | Monet | Perhaps this anti-ice is an uncommon form of antimatter that was originally more common antimatter driven down along the Earth's megnetic field to the poles? |
| 15:55.37 | Wormy_ | Lets hope cosmic inflation pushed our worlds far beyond any communicable horizon |
| 15:55.56 | Wormy_ | Imagine a matter/antimatter love story |
| 15:56.03 | Wormy_ | Stephen Baxter did |
| 15:56.07 | Tybusen | Sounds like an explosive romance |
| 15:56.08 | Monet | the eyes of the magnetic fields create some interesting cosmic interactions. |
| 15:56.38 | Ghelae | So, on the topic of anti-ice: to have a reaction with comparable energy density to matter-antimatter annihilation is also unlikely, as you'd need an interaction in which individual particles have a potential energy comparable to their mass-energy. That would be such a stong interaction that we should already be aware of it if it existed. |
| 15:56.40 | Vincent20100_Bac | Wormy: That is a whole new matter of love ^^ |
| 15:56.42 | Wormy_ | In the Xeelee Sequence, during the matter-antimatter period, there were super-fast living matter antimatter races |
| 15:56.46 | Vincent20100_Bac | No? ok... |
| 15:57.07 | Tybusen | There could potentially be some sort of interdimensional neutral zone made up of some sort of medium that is neutral to both matter and antimatter |
| 15:57.17 | Tybusen | And that is where the stage is set |
| 15:57.19 | Ghelae | Unless it's mediated by such massive particles (e.g. X and Y bosons in proton decay) that you'd need a lot more than mild heating to release the energy. |
| 15:57.19 | Xho | Well I'm remaking a species of mine |
| 15:57.22 | Xho | Let's put it this way |
| 15:57.24 | Xho | It's fucking scary |
| 15:57.36 | Monet | Which species? |
| 15:57.57 | Xho | [16:57] <Xho> It's fucking scary |
| 15:58.02 | Xho | There's only one that's really scary |
| 15:58.06 | Ghelae | Tybusen: About the only sort of medium that would work there is pure vacuum. |
| 15:58.27 | OluapPlayer | But everything you do is a big scary thing |
| 15:58.31 | OluapPlayer | Except Pelagros |
| 15:58.33 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios even |
| 15:58.36 | Xho | hur |
| 15:58.44 | Xho | When I say scary it's generally even Xho scary |
| 15:59.23 | Tybusen | Ghelae: Since EM waves can still travel in total vacuum, there's a chance of communication |
| 15:59.33 | Ghelae | Yes, there is. |
| 16:00.26 | Tybusen | Though now that I think of it, there's not a ton of story potential there in the end if you're going for realism |
| 16:00.41 | Xho | Probably the scariest alien race I have |
| 16:01.10 | Ghelae | Anti-ice being any kind of stable antimatter is also out of the question for the reasons mentioned (basically, if it's not going to annihilate with itself or its environment on its own, it's not going to at all). So that leaves what Wormy mentioned, antiparticles trapped within bulk matter. |
| 16:01.13 | OluapPlayer | Cute Xhodocto |
| 16:01.16 | Tybusen | Matter Space Captain - Hey you're made of antimatter | Antimatter Captain - yep | Matter Captain - well we can't really do anything else other than that, k bai |
| 16:01.30 | Ghelae | Perhaps magnetic traps generated by supercurrents within a room-temperature superconductor? |
| 16:02.03 | Wormy_ | Not really. Science fiction is about untying realism to common-sense. So if you find a really wacky way in which you had a collision of matter and antimattewr dominated universes, you could talk about the consequences for the inhabitants. |
| 16:02.43 | Ghelae | Tybusen: If you have a high data transfer rate you could have something like, say, holodecks where inhabitants of each ship interact with holographic representations of the other ship's crew. |
| 16:02.50 | Tybusen | That's true |
| 16:03.11 | Ghelae | So they can interact more directly than radio communications, but only with holograms of each other. |
| 16:03.23 | Wormy_ | Perhaps that is what anti-ice is. Also knowing Baxter, it probably will refer to X and Y bosons and such |
| 16:03.28 | Xho | Right well |
| 16:03.43 | Xho | Let's say usually whenever anyone sees any of them coming their way it usually results with an 'oh shit' |
| 16:04.17 | OluapPlayer | That describes 90% of your fiction |
| 16:04.18 | DrodoEmpire | That could be a lot of your stuff Xho |
| 16:04.19 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 16:04.22 | Cyrannian | The Tandava's main quote is "shitshitshit", so that's my guess |
| 16:04.23 | Ghelae | If they get more advanced than that they could perhaps even transfer their consciousnesses into artificial bodies on the other ship. But keeping them to a lower tech level might be better for producing plots. |
| 16:04.24 | Xho | god fukin dammit |
| 16:04.26 | Xho | No |
| 16:04.30 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 16:04.38 | Wormy_ | Is it eldritch? |
| 16:04.51 | OluapPlayer | Should've just said so from the beginning |
| 16:05.07 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám are as about as eldritch as possible before actually being eldritch I guess |
| 16:05.15 | Xho | Savage huge vitrolic plant aliens of death |
| 16:05.18 | Tybusen | At the tech level that you could transfer neuroelectric patterns from a matter to an antimatter framework, you could probably invent some sort of technology that allows you to directly interact with antimatter anyways |
| 16:05.35 | Monet | is that eldritch or just killer plant taken to 11? |
| 16:05.52 | Xho | bit of both |
| 16:05.55 | Tybusen | Like some sort of protective "neutral" layer that allows you to walk around in an antimatter environment |
| 16:06.05 | OluapPlayer | it's xho |
| 16:06.07 | OluapPlayer | it's just killer plant |
| 16:06.11 | Wormy_ | Are they sentient? I've always viewed them as beasts |
| 16:06.13 | OluapPlayer | cus tiniest dik in man's history |
| 16:06.32 | Xho | Wormy_: The ZÃ-Jittorám are sentient but only barely |
| 16:06.33 | External | Hah |
| 16:06.44 | Xho | It's a genetic 'disability' for them to be intelligent so you do get them in small quantities |
| 16:06.45 | Monet | WOrmy_: ZÃ-Jittorám are sapient, jsut *extremely* hyperaggressive |
| 16:06.56 | Wormy_ | I see |
| 16:07.08 | Ghelae | Tybusen: No; the former is a matter of computational complexity, while the latter is a matter of basic laws of physics. About the only thing I can think of that could work as a "neutral layer" is using lasers to move antimatter air out of the way. |
| 16:07.09 | OluapPlayer | ZÃ-Jittorám, where being retarded is normal |
| 16:07.11 | Monet | Actually I read somewhere that plants *are* actually quite aggressive to each other. |
| 16:07.22 | Wormy_ | Did they get off-world themselves or are they transported (I always thought the latter)? |
| 16:07.34 | External | Nathierm were plant-like too, and were sentient, but they were fucking assholes. |
| 16:08.02 | Monet | That whole thing about specific PHs for each kind of plants - some plants use that to kill the competition. |
| 16:08.03 | Xho | They got borderline annihilated by the BCN from what I recall |
| 16:08.05 | Xho | Or the Wranploer |
| 16:08.17 | OluapPlayer | Zoles actually |
| 16:08.24 | OluapPlayer | Then they joined the Wranploer Legion |
| 16:08.31 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám - ggggrrrr [cunts] |
| 16:08.38 | Tybusen | Ghelae: At the neuromapping tech level, there could plausibly be a greater understanding of the matter-antimatter relationship that could allow for that sort of tech, though of course as it currently stands that's soft-leaning science fiction |
| 16:08.41 | OluapPlayer | At least that's how the First Borealis War went when I wrote it years ago |
| 16:08.52 | OluapPlayer | Whether you want that to be the case is your decision |
| 16:08.56 | Ghelae | Very soft-leaning sci-fi. :P |
| 16:09.13 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám society: Small intelligent niche of their kind hole themselves up advancing years beyond the rest of their race who slaughter each other in droves as a way of life |
| 16:09.59 | Xho | Afiloxenos' ecology is basically just the ZÃ-Jittorám and their sub-races |
| 16:10.06 | External | Awesome. |
| 16:10.21 | Xho | There's no wildlife, the ZÃ-Jittorám *are* the wildlife |
| 16:10.49 | Xho | Basically if you want a good hunting sport, Afiloxenos is not the place to go |
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| 16:10.57 | Tybusen | dum buni |
| 16:11.01 | Hachiman | Dumb computer |
| 16:11.08 | Wormy_ | Hunter - "Here, lets hide in this bush" |
| 16:11.40 | Xho | But yeah the ZÃ-Jittorám sustain themselves by basically amalgamating (eventually) billions of their own kind together and forms a hive-father/mother/whatever |
| 16:12.00 | Xho | So you do have a massive sentient alien hive-form ZÃ-Jittorám that births a good deal of their kind asexually |
| 16:12.03 | Tybusen | Bush - i can assure you that there are no WMDs on Afiloxenos |
| 16:12.13 | Monet | http://www.dailynews.com/lifestyle/20150702/its-a-cruel-plant-but-it-does-have-some-positive-qualities here's an example - Araujia sericifera. A vine plant that grows quickly, can strangle other plants in its mass and has pollen so sticky that it can trap passing insects to die of starvation and heat exhaustion. |
| 16:12.28 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the Zoles have always tried to find Afiloxenos so they could blow it up but had no success |
| 16:13.01 | Xho | But the current hive-father/mother/whatevers are exceptionally ancient, probably in the billions of years old |
| 16:13.02 | OluapPlayer | Now that the Dominion holds control of the planet, chances are even slimmer |
| 16:13.22 | Xho | Maknagrius - get the fffffuk off our auto-death machine planet |
| 16:13.27 | Tybusen | Zoles - If we invade the Wranploer Legion, I'm sure we'll find Afiloxenos eventually |
| 16:13.45 | OluapPlayer | Afiloxenos is where Maknagrius gets his salad from |
| 16:14.38 | Tybusen | Now see, what the Zoles need to do is construct a passable analogue of Afiloxenos, blow it up, and then have their political leaders pose on a space carrier under a banner reading "Mission Accomplished" |
| 16:14.44 | Xho | Skhánaróton - you sick motherfucker |
| 16:15.05 | Xho | Blowing up Afiloxenos would essentially doom the ZÃ-Jittorám to exinction |
| 16:15.08 | External | Tibiquay - stfu u aint better |
| 16:15.25 | Xho | Unless the Dominion forcibly combines ZÃ-Jittorám together to form a hive-father of their own |
| 16:15.36 | Xho | That has probably happened already |
| 16:15.39 | Monet | Those hayfever tablet adverts that superimpose war sounds on recordings of flowerbed life does have some truth to its fiction. |
| 16:15.47 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh - Let's play a puzzle, you're the pieces |
| 16:16.07 | Xho | Santorakh - Insomnia its actually a ten trillion year old ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 16:17.07 | Hachiman | Tybusen: I hope it is not just me who is of the impression that the Sporewiki universe is in need of its own analogue of John Cena |
| 16:17.09 | External | Makes total sense! |
| 16:17.46 | Hachiman | An ex-soldier character who brawls and fights with his bare fists and can turn invisible at will |
| 16:18.06 | OluapPlayer | I don't get why John Cena is a meme |
| 16:18.20 | OluapPlayer | It sounds like randumb shit to me |
| 16:18.25 | Hachiman | Hardly hur |
| 16:18.31 | Cyrannian | Le Hachi, I'm fixing your red-links with my bot. Does anyone else have any red-links caused by a page move they'd like fixed? |
| 16:18.39 | Hachiman | >Le Hachi |
| 16:18.41 | Hachiman | >Le |
| 16:18.42 | Hachiman | Die |
| 16:18.53 | Hachiman | But thanks, the red link problem has been bothering me for a while hur |
| 16:19.00 | Tybusen | These are some vintage memes Cyr is pulling |
| 16:19.10 | Cyrannian | It's an old meme sir, but it checks out |
| 16:19.17 | Tybusen | A fine 2008 Le, bottled in Ireland |
| 16:19.19 | OluapPlayer | That's because the pages don't exist since you don't edit anymore |
| 16:19.38 | Tybusen | A little dry, but with a fine oaky aftertaste |
| 16:19.46 | Hachiman | I edit a lot I think you will find |
| 16:19.55 | Hachiman | I just don't publish as many as I used to |
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| 16:19.59 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 16:20.01 | OluapPlayer | No you fucking don't don't make me kick you |
| 16:20.07 | Hachiman | ;-; |
| 16:20.18 | Tybusen | do not kick bunnies |
| 16:20.25 | External | y |
| 16:20.43 | Tybusen | use the properly marked disposal bin in the southwest corner |
| 16:22.35 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=0 - Behold |
| 16:22.55 | OluapPlayer | cyrabutt |
| 16:23.59 | Tybusen | you're doin the lord's work cyr |
| 16:24.00 | Tybusen | god bless |
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| 16:24.52 | Dogerios | Hi |
| 16:25.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 16:25.16 | Tybusen | Ciao |
| 16:25.19 | Cyrannian | Good morrow |
| 16:25.30 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 16:25.31 | Dogerios | launches an explosive gondola full of pizza at Tybusen |
| 16:25.34 | Hachiman | Dogerios: Good (bad) news, Tybusen shall be joining you in Venice tomorrow |
| 16:25.38 | Monet | Dogerios: Bonjourno. |
| 16:25.48 | Dogerios | Demuhcracy |
| 16:25.58 | Dogerios | So you are in Venice too? |
| 16:26.19 | Tybusen | throws Dogerios into the canal and sends a battleship filled with garlic bread to plow through |
| 16:26.26 | Tybusen | I'm in Rome right now |
| 16:26.30 | Dogerios | Oh |
| 16:26.34 | Tybusen | Going to Venice tomorrow to board a cruise |
| 16:26.37 | Dogerios | I was there in 20135 |
| 16:26.39 | Dogerios | 2013 |
| 16:26.51 | Dogerios | ...holy shit I will be in Venice too tomorrow |
| 16:27.15 | Dogerios | I say let's play dangerous and actually arrange a meeting |
| 16:27.16 | Tybusen | Just a day trip or are you also going a cruise? |
| 16:27.32 | Tybusen | Because it would be freaky if we were on the same ship |
| 16:27.48 | Dogerios | Day trip |
| 16:27.59 | Hachiman | inb4 playing dangerous leads to the next Cold War |
| 16:28.33 | Dogerios | Russians are allergic to freedom, we can't be on the same ship |
| 16:28.52 | Cyrannian | Imp, when will you be in Florence? |
| 16:28.58 | Dogerios | Not sure |
| 16:29.50 | Tybusen | Dogerios: ok so we might actually be able to meet irl |
| 16:30.09 | Tybusen | I mentioned it to my family and they said they'd be totally cool with it |
| 16:30.09 | Dogerios | When will you be in the city itself? |
| 16:30.11 | Monet | THat sounds cool |
| 16:30.30 | Tybusen | I think I'm getting there mid-day/afternoon |
| 16:30.53 | Dogerios | Rite |
| 16:30.53 | Tybusen | First I'm dropping off baggage at the cruise ship but I think we're gonna be in the city for most of the afternoon |
| 16:31.02 | Hachiman | Capitalist Chinaman with USA-inspired fiction meeting up with Communist Korean with Middle East-inspired fiction |
| 16:31.09 | Dogerios | So 14:00 - 17:00 like thay |
| 16:31.19 | Tybusen | Sounds about right |
| 16:31.21 | Wormy_ | Me and Ghelae had every opportunity to meet lol in the past two years |
| 16:31.42 | Tybusen | My train from Rome should pull in around 13:30 or so |
| 16:31.58 | Cyrannian | I like to think I meet Ghelae every time I use Siri with an English accent |
| 16:32.00 | Tybusen | I will probably be wearing a Doge T-shirt too |
| 16:32.03 | Dogerios | We should like arrange a place and a tile to meet |
| 16:32.20 | Dogerios | Doge as in the Venetian doge or the shiba-inu |
| 16:32.34 | Tybusen | Shibe |
| 16:32.46 | Dogerios | Rite |
| 16:32.53 | Dogerios | I'll be wearing a hat |
| 16:33.05 | Dogerios | Like a small brown straw hat |
| 16:34.03 | Monet | Tybusen: Not sure if that would be offensive in Venice |
| 16:34.26 | Wormy_ | I have considered meeting Ghelae at a thing called Cafe Sci, where a science or maths lecturer gives a talk and we all drink beer and ask questions afterwards |
| 16:34.47 | Monet | Now you've made me thirsty |
| 16:34.55 | Tybusen | Monet: Well it's not like there's still a Doge that rules Venice |
| 16:35.13 | Wormy_ | They've had good talks actually |
| 16:35.31 | Monet | Tybusen: His house is still there though. |
| 16:35.47 | Ghelae | Most mid-mornings on a nice sunny weekday you could probably walk to the front of the physics building on University Park and find me with my project notes on the grass. |
| 16:36.08 | Wormy_ | Gamma-ray-bursts, the role of life in changing the Earth, stem cells and immortality, mathematical magic, the monte carlo simulation, and so on |
| 16:36.36 | Wormy_ | http://www.meetup.com/nottingham-culture-cafe-sci/ |
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| 16:36.49 | Sovnarkom | Hi. |
| 16:36.59 | Wormy_ | they have no meet ups until later in the year, unfortunately |
| 16:36.59 | Monet | THen again, being the Doge of Venice wasn't pleasant |
| 16:37.05 | External | hola |
| 16:37.10 | Sovnarkom | I got a page up. |
| 16:37.12 | Sovnarkom | Finally. |
| 16:37.17 | Sovnarkom | With some basic information on it. |
| 16:37.19 | External | ....Yay? |
| 16:37.21 | Sovnarkom | Gonna flesh it out today. |
| 16:37.23 | Sovnarkom | :l |
| 16:37.26 | Monet | By law, the Palazzo Ducale is a gilded cage. |
| 16:37.31 | External | Show it to us...? |
| 16:38.02 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: You could have found me in Waterstones science or philosophy section, or outside Greggs at lunchtime either near Waterstones or in Victoria Centre |
| 16:38.20 | Monet | The Doge was forbidden from leaving it and the only place he could go was the basillica next door (he had his own door to it) or diplomatic journeys |
| 16:38.37 | Dogerios | From what I've gathered doges were like late Soviet gensecs |
| 16:38.53 | Dogerios | Old geezers chosen by the elites |
| 16:39.01 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 16:39.09 | Ghelae | I don't tend to go into the city. But I actually meant currently, as in from now until early September, I'll be taking advantage of sunny weather whenever I can. |
| 16:40.02 | Wormy_ | Then in 2012/13 if you had gone to Uni of Leicester we would have been in the same place |
| 16:40.18 | Dogerios | Speaking of which Tybusen: http://i.imgur.com/LjjNk4i.jpg |
| 16:41.06 | Wormy_ | Unfortunately I don't go into Nottingham very much now I'm home. However, when Cafe Sci and talks again, I'll drop a note |
| 16:41.18 | Wormy_ | *have talks |
| 16:41.33 | Monet | Dogerios: if you have time or if its planed, definitely look around the Piazza San Marco. |
| 16:41.56 | Dogerios | I had the same idea |
| 16:42.08 | Tybusen | Dogerios: We could potentially meet in Piazza San Marco, we'd just have to figure out a good time |
| 16:42.15 | Dogerios | It's where that doge palace is, right? |
| 16:42.29 | Monet | Yeah |
| 16:43.30 | Monet | The palace, st. Paul's basillica and the Campanile di San Marco. |
| 16:43.39 | Monet | Wait saint paul's? |
| 16:43.42 | Monet | I mean Saint Mark's. |
| 16:44.04 | Tybusen | St. Paul's creepin' on St. Mark's turf |
| 16:44.40 | Dogerios | The Palace could be a good place to meet but considering how many tourists are there it might not be a good idea |
| 16:44.47 | Tybusen | True |
| 16:45.27 | Monet | There's the palace gardens to the west of it. |
| 16:46.11 | Monet | It mist be a public garden because the palace is a museum now |
| 16:47.18 | Wormy_ | If you can both stay connected in Venine, find each other using IRC |
| 16:48.21 | Tybusen | I think my phone plan allows for free data when roaming so I could use IRC |
| 16:48.32 | Tybusen | Not sure about Impy |
| 16:48.33 | Wormy_ | Go to a landmark, then find something beside it, like a statue, then when you are within feet of each other, starting saying "Are you Tybusen / Dogerios", and nobody will think weirdly of you. You are tourists after all. And tourists can be weird |
| 16:49.39 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b0/ZiJittoram2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150708164852 So who wants a nightmare |
| 16:49.46 | Tybusen | Though Dogerios can just refer to me by my RL first name since I think my wiki username will sound weird to my family |
| 16:49.48 | Dogerios | No IRC unfortunate |
| 16:49.58 | OluapPlayer | wher da fuk is the radial mouth |
| 16:50.03 | Wormy_ | That thing looks like a nightmare just to build. |
| 16:50.03 | Monet | Xho: Poison ivy on steroids. |
| 16:50.04 | External | Holy shit |
| 16:50.09 | Ghelae | Wormy_: So in Tybusen's case, it's an American tourist near the Doge's palace, wearing a Doge t-shirt, asking "Are you Dogerios?" |
| 16:50.39 | External | How do you make those?! |
| 16:50.48 | Ghelae | To random Koreans in straw hats. |
| 16:50.54 | Tybusen | I will likely also be wearing a red baseball cap with an A imprinted on the front |
| 16:50.54 | External | If I tried to make something like that, the amount of failures would drive me crazy/ |
| 16:51.04 | Wormy_ | lol |
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| 16:51.17 | Tybusen | the robot invasion is begun |
| 16:51.34 | Tybusen | CyraBot has gained sentience and has hacked into the IRC |
| 16:51.40 | External | uh-oh |
| 16:51.43 | Monet | How to make a Zi-Jittoram: 1) buy something like poison or climbing ivy, 2) bury it in miracle-gro with steroids bledned into it. 3) Wait. |
| 16:51.52 | External | the apocalpyse has started everyon so bai |
| 16:52.02 | Wormy_ | Cyrabot: "This statement is false" |
| 16:52.11 | Wormy_ | There I saved the day |
| 16:52.28 | External | Can we play around with CyraBot like we can with Infobot |
| 16:52.35 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/31/ZiJittoram2015_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150708165149 deres ur fukin radial mouth |
| 16:52.36 | External | ~shoot CyraBot |
| 16:52.36 | infobot | ACTION shoots CyraBot in the foot with a spitwad! |
| 16:52.47 | OluapPlayer | notbad.png |
| 16:52.57 | OluapPlayer | It's a good model now hur |
| 16:53.20 | External | That thing terrifies me jesus |
| 16:53.24 | Dogerios | It is like a demon ent |
| 16:53.48 | Monet | Xho: The central eye looks like it fits much better. |
| 16:54.07 | Dogerios | Right let me discuss with familt |
| 16:54.16 | Dogerios | Will you be online in like a few hours, |
| 16:55.28 | OluapPlayer | meanwhile I'm finally gonna work on the revised Gynash Dragons |
| 16:55.33 | Tybusen | I will probably be back around 23:00 |
| 16:55.37 | OluapPlayer | only took me several weeks |
| 16:55.59 | Wormy_ | Cool |
| 16:56.02 | Dogerios | 23:00 in local time or in Muhrican time |
| 16:56.15 | Wormy_ | Those dragons interest me |
| 16:56.20 | Tybusen | Local time |
| 16:56.34 | External | I can't stop playing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65GSQPRhhw |
| 16:57.12 | Monet | Size: 3,65m - 4,85m > Dey big |
| 16:57.15 | Monet | Well, big-ish |
| 16:57.33 | OluapPlayer | I totally forgot I gave them 4 wings and marked them as having 6 limbs |
| 16:57.36 | OluapPlayer | Oluap can't count |
| 16:57.42 | OluapPlayer | 8 limbs even |
| 16:57.47 | Tybusen | I wonder |
| 16:57.52 | Monet | THat's more like 10 limbs |
| 16:58.00 | Tybusen | if the Zi-Jittoram could smoke weed |
| 16:58.08 | OluapPlayer | yes they have 10 limbs now |
| 16:58.08 | Tybusen | Would that make them potted plants? |
| 16:58.22 | Xho | Santorakh - yes |
| 16:58.57 | External | Tybusen: Go sit in the corner. Now. |
| 16:58.57 | Xho | Just reminds me of the time Santorakh was beating Skhánarotón -01 with a paddle |
| 16:59.16 | Tybusen | it was worth it |
| 16:59.23 | External | hur |
| 16:59.51 | Monet | Zi-Jittoram - Ey. Ey. You know what? I should maybe consider living in a flowerpot....Wouldn't that be so aswesome? ZJ2 - Ohh dude you so so do that! And like...get people to water you and pat soil around you. And smell you! |
| 16:59.52 | Dogerios | Rite |
| 17:00.00 | Tybusen | Santorakh - that'll teach you to eat your vegetables |
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| 17:00.33 | Tybusen | Monet: ZJ3 - And sometimes they'll talk to you! |
| 17:00.53 | Monet | ZJ - ...Can you guys hug me? |
| 17:01.31 | Tybusen | *The Zi-Jittoram hug each other, only to inadvertently suffocate each other with their vine-like appendages* |
| 17:01.47 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 17:01.58 | External | Ha |
| 17:02.03 | Tybusen | such is life on Afiloxenos |
| 17:02.07 | Xho | Santorakh - take your twilight fanfiction somewhere else u retards |
| 17:02.29 | External | Tibiquay - ya. NOW DO IT YOU LITTLE BITCHES |
| 17:03.04 | Xho | It does make me wonder how the Wranploer actually pacified the ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 17:03.11 | Xho | Lots and lots and lots of serums probably |
| 17:03.21 | Monet | I was about to ask wouldn't ZJ consider smoking weed some kind of cannibalism but then I remembered they kill and mutilate each other anyway. |
| 17:03.48 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám - we're the only species on our planet the hell do you think we eat |
| 17:03.48 | Tybusen | I wonder if ZJ flesh has psychoactive properties |
| 17:04.00 | Xho | It has corrosive properties that's for sure |
| 17:04.01 | OluapPlayer | I assume the Wranploer just got the intelligent ones and ignored the others |
| 17:04.12 | Monet | New Gigaquadrantic passtime: Zi-Jittoram licking. |
| 17:04.21 | Tybusen | Technically speaking all drugs are poisonous |
| 17:04.51 | OluapPlayer | They'd have no use for hyperdestructive savages in their empire |
| 17:04.58 | Monet | Actually ZJ-licking woul dbe interesting |
| 17:04.59 | Tybusen | Perhaps if ZJ flesh has corrosive properties |
| 17:05.07 | CyraBot | ð¾ð¾ |
| 17:05.13 | Tybusen | Its effects would be closer to acid, I'd assume |
| 17:05.14 | OluapPlayer | shup |
| 17:05.19 | Monet | It would be both a form of recreational drug use AND an extreme sport! |
| 17:05.28 | Tybusen | So, acid |
| 17:05.42 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám - it's fatal not that we're like a toad and you die we smash you instead |
| 17:06.13 | Wormy_ | What if the ZÃ-Jittorám likes a good lick |
| 17:06.20 | Monet | New illegal extreme sport sport: Have peopel lick ZJs and then have a race. |
| 17:06.37 | Xho | Then it's bloomin' weird |
| 17:06.48 | Monet | The winner is whoever doesnt' get his head smashed in by an angry plant alien |
| 17:06.59 | Tybusen | The hit new animated film in the Borealis Galaxy: The Princess and the Zi-Jittoram, a princess licks a Zi-Jittoram and turns into a Zi-Jittoram herself, and they go on a journey through Space New Orleans to find a cure |
| 17:07.14 | Xho | Santorakh - directed by me of course |
| 17:07.25 | Xho | Santorakh gets Erissare to star in it |
| 17:07.48 | OluapPlayer | I'd be weird if they got licked by Wranploer since they lactate through their tongues |
| 17:07.59 | Tybusen | Santorakh is nominated for Best Director and Erissare for Best Actress, but they lose to the 17th clone of Leonardo DiCaprio on both fronts |
| 17:08.14 | External | What. |
| 17:08.38 | Xho | Santorakh - those dreams leo of people in gold morphsuits that was me leo me |
| 17:08.51 | Monet | Leo's too good to live once |
| 17:08.57 | Wormy_ | Wranploer will always have enough milk for cereal |
| 17:08.57 | Tybusen | Anyways I have to go right now |
| 17:08.59 | Tybusen | Ciao |
| 17:09.01 | Wormy_ | bye |
| 17:09.02 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 17:09.03 | Tybusen | Arrivederci |
| 17:09.04 | Tybusen | etc. |
| 17:09.06 | External | Bye' |
| 17:09.24 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám reproduce asexually I suppose |
| 17:09.30 | Xho | Or the giant hive-father produces them |
| 17:09.37 | Xho | Though it sustains itself with dead ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 17:09.49 | Xho | #cycleoflife |
| 17:09.53 | Monet | Or maybe Zi Jittoram venom is a highly prized and expensive recreational drug. |
| 17:10.08 | Monet | And you buy it as an extract |
| 17:10.12 | Xho | Nu - tried it once had to get a replacement tongue |
| 17:10.23 | OluapPlayer | What's the name of that thing sharks use to detect prey? |
| 17:10.28 | OluapPlayer | it was something-location |
| 17:10.30 | Xho | Echolocation? |
| 17:10.37 | OluapPlayer | Not that |
| 17:10.38 | Monet | THat's bats |
| 17:10.41 | OluapPlayer | It was something else |
| 17:10.43 | Dogerios | Ciao |
| 17:10.49 | Wormy_ | I know some are electrosensitive but I cannot recall the name |
| 17:11.01 | OluapPlayer | I think it was electrolocation |
| 17:11.15 | OluapPlayer | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroreception found it |
| 17:11.21 | Monet | Xho: Meh, MDMA isn't exactly kind to the brain and people still take it |
| 17:11.21 | Wormy_ | Electroreception |
| 17:11.22 | OluapPlayer | Gynash Dragons see through that now |
| 17:11.34 | Xho | Well |
| 17:11.59 | Xho | ZÃ-Jittorám venom is more like a hyper-corrosive acid really |
| 17:12.24 | Xho | Gets into your blood stream, you will melt like soggy toilet paper |
| 17:12.34 | Monet | Ewww |
| 17:12.41 | Monet | OKay maybe not the venom |
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| 17:12.44 | Xho | Their blood isn't much better |
| 17:12.45 | Monet | Maybe an extract? |
| 17:12.52 | Wormy_ | I wonder if they can see through small barriers like http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/133936-using-wifi-to-see-through-walls |
| 17:12.55 | Monet | SOmething in their body cells |
| 17:13.17 | Xho | Nu - tried it once cerebral receptors shut off |
| 17:13.27 | OluapPlayer | y u want to get high off ZJ so much |
| 17:13.48 | Monet | I think the damage from snorting bath salts came from some sort of physical damage ot the brain. |
| 17:14.05 | Wormy_ | Perhaps in tiny amounts its more like krocodil |
| 17:14.25 | Wormy_ | Where it builds up and rots flesh |
| 17:14.43 | Monet | ZJs are giant plants. |
| 17:14.53 | Xho | Well the ZÃ-Jittorám have a fair few defense systems |
| 17:14.58 | Xho | Venom is probably the worst of it |
| 17:15.24 | Monet | Probably my warped mind being attracted to the idea that you could get high off something extracted from them. |
| 17:15.35 | Xho | You have to deal with the fact it's a 4-metre tall, 700 kg alien thing with a shitload of teeth and an 8 metre long tongue |
| 17:15.53 | OluapPlayer | Erissare - been thru all of it and more |
| 17:16.03 | Xho | Skhána - did not enjoy it personally |
| 17:16.12 | Ghelae | Even their blood isn't going to just be one chemical substance. It's not inconceivable that setting them on fire would release something psychoactive and only slightly toxic into the smoke. |
| 17:16.14 | Wormy_ | All I'm saying is, diluted to a\ nonimmediately destructive level, its a drug with latent chronic destructiveness |
| 17:16.21 | Monet | I also like expanding on the sort of food, drink and substances popular i nthe first gigaquadrant |
| 17:16.23 | Ghelae | "Only slighly toxic" being compared to body-melting venom. |
| 17:16.40 | Xho | There could be some psychoactive properties in ZÃ-Jittorám chemical compositions |
| 17:17.00 | Xho | I don't think an autopsy would ever be performed on a ZÃ-Jittorám in the fear it jumps back alive and berserks |
| 17:17.11 | Xho | brb |
| 17:17.16 | Wormy_ | use wobots |
| 17:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | You could conduct one in a controlled environment with yeah surgical robots |
| 17:17.30 | Monet | I might be one of the only people whose actually created a page for a substance that's not specifically some super soldier serum. |
| 17:17.39 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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| 17:19.25 | OluapPlayer | I made interplanar candy |
| 17:19.28 | OluapPlayer | Granted it has no page |
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| 17:19.43 | Monet | Xho, Dino and I I think are the only ones with lists of alcoholic beverages. |
| 17:20.18 | ExternalFic | cool |
| 17:20.25 | Wormy_away | I made up a Grimbolsaurian blood ale. Don't ask me how they stop blood from coagulating |
| 17:21.21 | Monet | Granted we've come up with at least half a dozen varieties of Paa'go but its one broad drink really. |
| 17:23.58 | Wormy_away | wat http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1630/is-yeast-infection-yeast-the-same-as-cooking-yeast |
| 17:24.34 | ExternalFic | "Is yeast infection yeast the same as cooking yeast? If I put my girlfriend in an oven the next time she has a yeast infection, will she rise? Have you ever heard of women using their own yeast in emergency cooking situations?" |
| 17:24.38 | ExternalFic | What. |
| 17:24.40 | ExternalFic | The. |
| 17:24.41 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod what |
| 17:24.43 | ExternalFic | Fuck. |
| 17:26.30 | Wormy_away | indeed |
| 17:26.37 | Wormy_away | internets |
| 17:27.02 | ExternalFic | -1 hope in humanity |
| 17:27.14 | ExternalFic | Humanity is dying. Accept it. |
| 17:27.26 | Monet | Humanity's always been dying |
| 17:28.10 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Wait, interplanar candy? |
| 17:28.23 | OluapPlayer | Mimi's dreamy bits |
| 17:28.42 | OluapPlayer | Solid dream energy which tastes like sugar |
| 17:28.46 | Hachiman | Oh right |
| 17:29.18 | Monet | How marketable would it be though? |
| 17:29.30 | Hachiman | Varugr - dus dis meen dat i can call da dreemy bird grill sugartits |
| 17:29.54 | Monet | So far we've only seen Mimi create it. |
| 17:29.55 | Ghelae | Could you use it as a zero-calorie artificial sweetener? That would open up a huge business opportunity. |
| 17:30.27 | OluapPlayer | Oh it's not sold anywhere |
| 17:30.49 | OluapPlayer | It's something you can only find at the Realm of Dreams |
| 17:30.59 | OluapPlayer | Now I imagine people mining these out of multi-coloured rocks |
| 17:31.07 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Gynash_Dragon anyway page |
| 17:31.29 | Monet | Drac Citizens look for a way to get int othe realm of dreams to mine and sell dream candy. |
| 17:31.51 | OluapPlayer | Sonhadromerith - I'M THE INDIAN CHIEFTAIN AND I SAY SHOO |
| 17:32.28 | Monet | Prosperctor - We can split the profits! |
| 17:32.29 | Ghelae | Multicoloured dreamy sugar rocks are something else to list on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:202523 I suppose. |
| 17:32.40 | OluapPlayer | By how I described the Dragons I think we could consider them to be biological robots |
| 17:33.22 | Wormy_away | This idea shouldn't be missed |
| 17:33.45 | Wormy_away | Lets go to candy mountain! |
| 17:34.09 | Hachiman | Biological robots |
| 17:34.14 | Hachiman | You mean like ant drones? |
| 17:34.56 | Hachiman | Nice updates by the way, I am fond of their new design I gotta say |
| 17:35.09 | OluapPlayer | I mean the fact they're animals made of artificial muscle and bone |
| 17:35.21 | Monet | biobots? |
| 17:35.30 | OluapPlayer | That's a name |
| 17:36.14 | ExternalFic | DEATHITE |
| 17:36.20 | ExternalFic | >:O |
| 17:38.42 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009910_894669157236202_1840431728700920845_n.jpg?oh=fe5cd4f2286773c3c00f8bc4adc148a4&oe=5617C6C7 My sides |
| 17:38.53 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 17:39.34 | Monet | Xho: Replace soundtrack with a G minor version |
| 17:40.02 | Monet | Or invert all the notes |
| 17:49.23 | OluapPlayer | http://puu.sh/iRHLC/1b9441f4da.mp4 doggie attempts to reclaim his bed from the evil forces of cat |
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| 17:51.57 | Hachiman | Daww |
| 17:52.11 | CyraBot | Xho: I was reading your fiction last night and noticed that in your current canon there are only four Xhodocto, does that mean that Dhazhrak is an aspect of one of them or something? |
| 17:52.36 | Xho | Yes |
| 17:52.36 | OluapPlayer | There's this piece of news about a cougar that snatched a guy's doh |
| 17:52.39 | OluapPlayer | dog |
| 17:52.42 | Xho | Sort of |
| 17:52.51 | Xho | I suppose so yeah |
| 17:52.55 | OluapPlayer | The guy proceeded to hunt the cougar down, punch it IN THE FACE and get his dog back |
| 17:53.07 | Monet | Holy shit! |
| 17:53.40 | ExternalFic | Action hero! |
| 17:53.53 | OluapPlayer | The dog is well from what I can see |
| 17:53.54 | drom | OluapPlayer: I thought you were talking about a cougar stealing a guy's Play Doh |
| 17:53.55 | DrodoEmpire | That takes some balls. :p |
| 17:54.07 | OluapPlayer | You can consider a guy a badass when he punches cougars in the face |
| 17:54.20 | Monet | Aye |
| 17:54.46 | Xho | "You can consider a guy a badass when he punches cougars in the face" I just imagine a guy punching a woman in her 50s |
| 17:54.53 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 17:55.03 | OluapPlayer | wat |
| 17:55.20 | OluapPlayer | "Pound that pussy." "No pussy will steal his wiener" |
| 17:55.49 | Monet | Xho: SOme of them can be creepy |
| 17:56.04 | Xho | They all are |
| 17:56.12 | Monet | I've only ever met one |
| 17:56.14 | Hachiman | Cougar is the term for older women who have a preference for young men |
| 17:56.20 | Xho | A 50 year old woman making a pass on a 20 year old |
| 17:56.54 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBAP_OPKqmk the news |
| 17:57.08 | Monet | I think she tried ot drive my family off so she could get ot know me. |
| 17:57.44 | Xho | "Mosul: At Least 45 Islamic State Group Fighters Reportedly Die From Poisoned Ramadan Meal in Iraq" |
| 17:57.48 | Xho | Allahu Akbar indeed |
| 17:58.07 | Hachiman | That dude is a hero |
| 17:58.37 | Monet | Xho: THat gives me a thought |
| 17:58.47 | OluapPlayer | Fucking kek |
| 17:58.55 | Monet | What if some of these young peopel going to join ISIS might be trying ot bring it down |
| 17:59.21 | Monet | Emphasis on "some" |
| 17:59.38 | Monet | its pretty-much condemned by the Islamic community. |
| 17:59.39 | OluapPlayer | About the picture where he compares the gun's size to the cougar's corpse |
| 17:59.41 | OluapPlayer | "Balls on that guy, that Cougar was armed to the teeth" |
| 17:59.53 | Hachiman | olol |
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| 18:00.43 | CyraBot | Did he kill the cougar? ð |
| 18:00.48 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 18:00.58 | OluapPlayer | He tried to scare it off but it tried to attack him again |
| 18:01.01 | OluapPlayer | So he had to kill it |
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| 18:07.14 | ExternalFic | Hola |
| 18:08.29 | Sovnarkom | Anyone here a fan of alternate history? |
| 18:09.23 | ExternalFic | Eeehhhh... |
| 18:09.32 | ExternalFic | We do have some alternate histories here. |
| 18:09.36 | Hachiman | Aye, I am |
| 18:09.46 | ExternalFic | Realities Altered and Mirror Universe, but they aren't active. |
| 18:09.50 | CyraBot | Indeeed |
| 18:10.16 | Sovnarkom | That's cool. |
| 18:10.24 | Sovnarkom | But talking outside of the realm of Fiction Universe. |
| 18:10.40 | Monet | Relatities Altered and Legacy tend to focus around isolated fictions. |
| 18:10.42 | ExternalFic | Somewhat. I am not very interested in it though. |
| 18:11.41 | OluapPlayer | If you mean an entirely different setting, the only thing we have is the Fantasy Universe |
| 18:12.18 | Hachiman | Which is more of a separate alternate reality entirely than an alternate history |
| 18:12.24 | ExternalFic | Yep. |
| 18:12.33 | CyraBot | I came across a series of books once involving reptilian aliens invading Earth during the Second World War ð¢ |
| 18:12.43 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
| 18:12.47 | Sovnarkom | Wait, are you serious? |
| 18:12.49 | Sovnarkom | ._. |
| 18:12.52 | ExternalFic | I'm planning to add a character, or even an empire, in Koldenwelt, but I can't do it. |
| 18:13.19 | Hachiman | Why is that? |
| 18:13.46 | ExternalFic | CyraBot: I found a book which had an alternate history involving flesh eating ponies taking over the world |
| 18:13.58 | ExternalFic | Not enough time and I can't bring myself to do it. |
| 18:14.22 | Monet | Kelpies freak me out. |
| 18:14.25 | Sovnarkom | I imagine what the world would've been like if the Bolsheviks succeeded in defeating Poland. |
| 18:14.41 | Sovnarkom | They might've been help for the German Communists and their revolution. |
| 18:14.54 | Hachiman | Funnily enough, I was looking through Wikipedia articles on Stephen Baxter's alternate history stuff |
| 18:14.56 | Sovnarkom | Maybe even the Hungarians. |
| 18:16.14 | Hachiman | In one of his books, Nazi Germany manages to establish a stronghold settlement in southeastern England known as the Protectorate of Albion |
| 18:16.26 | Sovnarkom | That['s interesting. |
| 18:16.42 | Sovnarkom | Here's a cool Alternate History map I found. |
| 18:16.43 | Sovnarkom | http://orig03.deviantart.net/040d/f/2012/355/b/8/proletarian_century__europe__1924_by_k_haderach-d5oo8ec.png |
| 18:16.45 | CyraBot | There is a wiki somewhere revolving around alternate histories |
| 18:17.46 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 18:17.50 | Monet | Alternate History Hub |
| 18:17.51 | Hachiman | Alternate History Wiki |
| 18:18.06 | Hachiman | Hub even |
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| 18:19.43 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 18:19.43 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 18:20.25 | Hachiman | I wonder what would have happened if Japan had managed to establish a permanent stronghold in South Korea, or if the Mongols had actually succeeded in launching an invasion on Japan in the absence of the freak storm that destroyed their ships |
| 18:20.33 | Wormy_away | There's a youtube channel called that too. |
| 18:20.40 | Hachiman | Which were found recently underwater, actually |
| 18:21.55 | Wormy_away | I wonder what the world would be like if Britain sided with the Germans in WWI (unlikely I know). Would Britain and Germany then go to war with Russia? Would a French version of Hitler rise up in France? |
| 18:22.19 | Wormy_away | Would colonialism still be present today, with the US remaining isolayionist |
| 18:22.35 | Wormy_away | isolationist |
| 18:22.36 | Hachiman | Yeah, the Youtuber guy claimed that if the dinosaurs had not gone extinct, it is likely that while they would not have died out they would not have evolved to become sapient entities due to intelligence not being the goal of evolution but a convenient consequence |
| 18:23.06 | DrodoEmpire | AlternateHistoryHub, I'm guessing? |
| 18:23.11 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 18:23.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its a good channel |
| 18:23.28 | OluapPlayer | wat if intelligence became a convenience 4 dinosaurs |
| 18:23.31 | Wormy_away | Yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYziyzv8cSE |
| 18:23.32 | OluapPlayer | cyrannus - 1 earth - 0 |
| 18:23.53 | CyraBot | Lel |
| 18:24.11 | Hachiman | It is rather unlikely dinosaurs would ever become as technologically advanced as we are even if intelligence did arise amongst them |
| 18:24.23 | CyraBot | I think I saw that video recently too |
| 18:24.28 | Hachiman | Dinosaurs had little requirement for food due to being physiologically adaptable |
| 18:24.39 | Hachiman | tools even |
| 18:24.43 | Hachiman | Of course they need food |
| 18:25.10 | OluapPlayer | T-rex on a diet |
| 18:25.20 | OluapPlayer | "We already have a lot of respect for the woodpecker for having the highest density of dick references in a single name" |
| 18:25.41 | Hachiman | olol |
| 18:26.15 | OluapPlayer | I found this while reading about scary animal mouths |
| 18:26.22 | OluapPlayer | Apparently woodpeckets have spear-shaped tongues |
| 18:26.31 | OluapPlayer | "Not only is it up to three times the length of the bird's beak, but it's tipped with a barbed spearhead that impales bugs in trees and drags them screaming to their end." |
| 18:26.44 | Wormy_away | Hachi: In the Time Ships, a similar world war happend during the 40s, but had been going on since the 1910's. London has a massive dome over the top to protect it from arial bombing, and children begin to look like murlocks without enough sunlight and food |
| 18:26.45 | Hachiman | Yeah I heard about that |
| 18:27.06 | Hachiman | Wormy_away: Jesus |
| 18:27.23 | OluapPlayer | And fuck me penguin mouths are horrifying |
| 18:27.25 | Monet | I've seen a number of documenteries that suggest that the volution of intelligence in humans is indeed quite coincidental. |
| 18:27.28 | Wormy_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Ships |
| 18:27.30 | OluapPlayer | It looks like a meat grinder |
| 18:27.33 | Wormy_away | Good book as well |
| 18:27.43 | Monet | evolution* |
| 18:28.04 | Hachiman | Yeah penguin mouths are rather ech |
| 18:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | http://gyazo.com/89a9a0945f5929b640c3c520888d2f1b |
| 18:28.24 | Monet | A few changes in human history and Earth would be quite different |
| 18:28.30 | Hachiman | I was actually wondering about a xeno-penguin species earlier today but I have no idea how it would work |
| 18:28.35 | Monet | Humanity was an endangered species once too. |
| 18:28.54 | OluapPlayer | AGH FUCK |
| 18:29.00 | OluapPlayer | Leatherback sea turtle |
| 18:29.12 | Hachiman | What does its mouth look like? |
| 18:29.29 | OluapPlayer | Teeth |
| 18:29.31 | OluapPlayer | EVERYWHERE |
| 18:30.00 | Hachiman | Ohgod what the fuck |
| 18:30.15 | OluapPlayer | http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/8/4/5/131845_v1.jpg Trigger warning disgusting turtle mouth |
| 18:30.29 | CyraBot | so hawt |
| 18:30.29 | OluapPlayer | I didn't even think turtles had teeth |
| 18:30.30 | Monet | THat's actually pretty cool |
| 18:30.48 | DrodoEmpire | https://blueollie.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/triggered.jpg?w=320&h=371 |
| 18:30.50 | Wormy_away | Monet: Because of it, we have much less genetic diversity than other primates |
| 18:30.57 | Hachiman | That is kinda cool but also really horrifying |
| 18:31.09 | OluapPlayer | http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/8/3/9/131839_v1.jpg hagfish have real vagina dentata |
| 18:31.14 | Monet | COme t othink of it, it seems common in the nautical world ot have more than oen row of teeth |
| 18:31.24 | Hachiman | ew |
| 18:31.32 | Monet | one row of teeth* |
| 18:31.41 | Monet | Don't some shark species have extra rows of teeth? |
| 18:31.52 | CyraBot | Hachi - I'd still hit it |
| 18:32.06 | OluapPlayer | Sharks have many teeth which replaced fallen ones |
| 18:32.21 | Monet | ALso "didn't even think turtles had teeth" > Turtle bites hurt like hell. |
| 18:32.33 | OluapPlayer | yeah but I thought that was because of the beak-shaped mouth |
| 18:32.37 | Hachiman | Yeah but that is usually because of turtle beaks, not teeth |
| 18:32.44 | Monet | That too |
| 18:32.53 | Hachiman | "How do you have sex with a hagfish?" Hachi - carefully |
| 18:33.03 | ExternalFic | Hah. |
| 18:33.07 | Monet | http://images.viralnova.com/000/075/912/desktop-1411051639.png woah. |
| 18:33.16 | OluapPlayer | Hachi - i ask clotho if she wants to cus shes a witch hags, witches |
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| 18:33.33 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:33.43 | ExternalFic | Hello |
| 18:33.49 | Hachiman | Monet: Never mind the huge turtle, fucking GANDHI is still alive |
| 18:34.05 | Monet | He reincarnated lol |
| 18:34.06 | OluapPlayer | Gandhi is wondering how he can weaponize the turtle |
| 18:34.23 | OluapPlayer | This is almost nonsense, leatherback sea turtles are supposed to be cute endangered animals |
| 18:34.28 | Monet | http://www.puertovallarta.net/images/what_to_do/leatherback-turtle/leatherback-sea-turtle-02.jpg have a baby |
| 18:34.30 | CyraBot | Hey there, I should be able to work on your flags tomorrow! |
| 18:34.32 | OluapPlayer | http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/8/4/1/131841.jpg?v=1 look at this lil guy he doesn't deserve such a terrible mouth |
| 18:34.46 | CyraBot | D'aww |
| 18:34.58 | ExternalFic | cuuutteeeee |
| 18:35.11 | ExternalFic | slaps himself to get out of the trance |
| 18:35.26 | Hachiman | I get reminded of the surfer turtles from Finding Nemo |
| 18:35.29 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Butbut nature loves to hide nasty brai nbleach behind beauty |
| 18:35.48 | OluapPlayer | Nature is a terrible mother |
| 18:36.08 | Monet | Naw |
| 18:36.17 | Monet | It shows she loves her kids no matter how ugly they are |
| 18:37.04 | Hachiman | Except male anglerfish because fuck male anglerfish |
| 18:37.13 | Hachiman | Literally parasitic sperm donors |
| 18:38.03 | Wormy_away | "Life itself is only a vision. A dream. Nothing exists saves empty space. And you, you are but a thought." --Satan |
| 18:38.17 | OluapPlayer | shuddup satan literally no one likes u |
| 18:38.25 | Monet | Except satanists lol |
| 18:38.41 | Hachiman | Except satanists don't think like that hur |
| 18:38.44 | ExternalFic | I'm typing on Google Docs and apparently "come" is not a word. |
| 18:38.46 | Hachiman | True satanists, even |
| 18:38.46 | ExternalFic | dumj |
| 18:38.51 | Xho | Theistic Satanists would |
| 18:39.20 | Wormy_away | Of course I'm referring to the horrific kids cartoon with a creature which creates life and then cruelly destroys it leaving an empty void and itself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USZGm9GR7ak |
| 18:39.22 | Monet | True satanists iirc see Satan as misunderstood or as the more caring one don't they? |
| 18:39.26 | Hachiman | But theistic satanists are not really satanists, they are probably either Wicca or some other pagan religion |
| 18:39.55 | Hachiman | Monet: True Satanists do not worship or view Satan as an entity at all |
| 18:40.02 | Monet | Oh |
| 18:40.10 | OluapPlayer | They should have picked another name |
| 18:40.31 | Hachiman | True Satanists only use Satan as an icon to oppose the Church rather than actually worship him |
| 18:40.41 | Hachiman | LaVeyan Satanists |
| 18:40.49 | Wormy_away | Well sin and desire have connotations of satan in Christianity |
| 18:40.57 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ra9ilQUn0 |
| 18:41.10 | Wormy_away | So these atheistic satanists believe in human desires I think |
| 18:41.18 | Monet | I think I once considered one interpretation of Luciver's actions in Genesis as him offering us freedom |
| 18:41.25 | Wormy_away | *in building on |
| 18:41.34 | Xho | Is Satan evil though |
| 18:41.35 | Xho | I mean |
| 18:41.40 | Xho | He rules a domain that punishes evil people |
| 18:41.49 | Hachiman | He does not actually rule it |
| 18:41.56 | Hachiman | He is imprisoned there |
| 18:41.59 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "Why don't you SHUTZEFUKUP" |
| 18:42.04 | Xho | That's according to Dante though |
| 18:42.09 | Hachiman | True |
| 18:42.10 | Monet | Before eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, Adam and Eve were naive, innocent, oblivious to morality and consequence. |
| 18:42.49 | Hachiman | I suppose we could align the Greek deity Prometheus with the role of Satan in Christianity |
| 18:43.10 | Hachiman | Both gave something of value to humanity and were punished for it |
| 18:44.51 | Monet | In classical psychology the idea of having a devil and angel on each shoulder is looked at a little less black and white. The shoulder devil is the id; impulse, pashion and drive, the angel is the sueprego; law-abiding, conscientious and rulebound. The ego is the person i nthe middle of both. |
| 18:45.46 | Hachiman | To be fair though, Lucifer was a bit of a dick since he was the catalyst behind the War in Heaven as described in the Book of Revelation |
| 18:46.13 | Monet | He was proud. He thought he could do a better job at ruling the universe than God. |
| 18:47.40 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "ROGER THAT, FAGGOTS" |
| 18:47.56 | OluapPlayer | look at this look at this look at this look at this LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS LOOK AT THIS |
| 18:48.26 | Hachiman | I always thought Lucifer was opposed to the enforcement of control overall rather than desiring it for himself although I never actually read the Book of Revelation |
| 18:49.06 | Monet | Who says he palnned to be as firm-handed as God? |
| 18:49.14 | Hachiman | True |
| 18:50.02 | Hachiman | I think it says something about Lucifer and God though in that God did not actually bring himself to face Lucifer and instead ushered Michael to face him instead |
| 18:50.10 | Xho | Yeah |
| 18:50.15 | Xho | Smacked the cunt right down, I did |
| 18:50.30 | OluapPlayer | Lucifer - bit rude |
| 18:50.35 | Monet | Actually. |
| 18:50.54 | Monet | Call me slow as all hell but that reminds me of the Horus Heresy |
| 18:51.05 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "The E-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH-end." |
| 18:51.11 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 18:51.19 | Monet | Yes I just realised Horus Heresy is basically Lucifer's fall from grace. |
| 18:51.23 | Hachiman | That is kinda what the motif of the Horus Heresy was hur |
| 18:51.47 | OluapPlayer | 2:35 is everyone's first reaction to Dreamy Hachi |
| 18:51.57 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:52.17 | ExternalFic | DrodoEmpire: Why'd you get rid of Drodo biology on the Drodo Empire pag? |
| 18:52.31 | Monet | Only God isn't a zombie in a fancy chair. |
| 18:52.32 | Xho | IT'S THE DEVIL'S DIiIiIiIK |
| 18:52.37 | DrodoEmpire | I made a creature page instead] |
| 18:52.45 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Drodo |
| 18:52.47 | Hachiman | Or according to Nietzsche, he is |
| 18:53.05 | ExternalFic | Ah. |
| 18:53.12 | Monet | Hachiman: Oh? |
| 18:53.40 | OluapPlayer | God is dead and tumblr killed him |
| 18:53.52 | DrodoEmpire | Seemed odd to have it on the Empire page; While the Drodo Empire have a large Drodo majority, it is still ultamately a political entity. |
| 18:53.54 | Monet | I've heard the phrase "God is Dead" |
| 18:53.56 | DrodoEmpire | *ultimately |
| 18:54.07 | Hachiman | Never heard of "God is dead" or the Ubermensch? |
| 18:54.15 | Monet | I've heard of those. |
| 18:54.16 | OluapPlayer | lrn 2 reed |
| 18:54.25 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be like having the human biology on the wikipedia page of the United States of America. |
| 18:54.50 | Monet | Though my understanding of the phrase "God is Dead" is passing knowledge at best |
| 18:56.30 | ExternalFic | Good point. |
| 18:56.56 | Hachiman | As Nietzsche sought to explain it, "God is dead" refers to the fact that humanity can no longer look to God as a credible source of morals and ethics and such thus we stopped believing |
| 18:57.45 | Hachiman | Instead humanity looks into itself for its moral guidance rather than that of God |
| 18:58.15 | Monet | So rather than being literal, it refers to his relevance in human society. |
| 18:58.24 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 18:58.50 | Hachiman | Humanity is no longer able to look towards a universal guide of absolute morality |
| 18:59.03 | Monet | So similar to "disco is dead"; you can still take part in a disco, but its no longer a mainstream and accepted aspect of society. |
| 18:59.14 | Pastarios | >humanity |
| 18:59.41 | Monet | The only peopel who can would be romantics |
| 18:59.46 | Pastarios | You mean North Eurasia and the Anglosphere right |
| 18:59.55 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 18:59.58 | Pastarios | Because for certain people God is not dead |
| 19:00.01 | Pastarios | But rather |
| 19:00.08 | Pastarios | IS GREATEST |
| 19:00.13 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 19:00.44 | Pastarios | Although these guys have trascended morality altogether hur |
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| 19:01.26 | Pastarios | Admittedly faith can resurface should we face another great calamity in the future |
| 19:02.15 | Hachiman | Or it can be lost further |
| 19:02.59 | Monet | I get the impression that Nietzsche's opinion was that the only places where God isn't dead is places where his reverence was never widespread. |
| 19:03.04 | Hachiman | That or faith is redirected from God and towards human leaders |
| 19:04.57 | Monet | Well there already are millions of humans who take their morals more from human figures than God. |
| 19:06.01 | Monet | Impy has a point |
| 19:06.37 | Monet | One of the reasons the United States is so fervantly religious is because it felt threatened by the equally large and brutally atheist USSR. |
| 19:08.34 | Hachiman | Why was the USSR atheist? |
| 19:10.05 | DrodoEmpire | I believe a communist principle is state atheism. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's it |
| 19:10.06 | Monet | A reaction to the paraphrase "religion is the opiate of the masses", which is commonyl attributed to Karl Marx. |
| 19:11.08 | Monet | The Soviet leadership believed they could advance their people by breaking them of their reliance on religion. |
| 19:11.20 | Hachiman | Hm that is fair enough |
| 19:11.42 | DrodoEmpire | Nah its because they were all secretly neckbeards |
| 19:11.45 | Monet | Seems ironic that the United States' reaction served as ideal propaganda material for pushign state atheism. |
| 19:13.43 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Nah. Neckbeards worship Dicius Chancius. the god of dice rolls and random numbers. |
| 19:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 19:14.12 | DrodoEmpire | RNGods |
| 19:15.21 | Hachiman | Neckbeards actually tend to flock towards figures such as Charles Darwin and Richard Dawkins |
| 19:16.33 | Monet | Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Bill Nye getting tired of being the Science Guy? |
| 19:16.39 | Hachiman | It is rather ironic how neckbeards claim that religion holds back the progression of science when it has worked hand-in-hand just about as much as they have opposed one another |
| 19:16.44 | Hachiman | Yeah I assume so |
| 19:18.06 | Monet | I've heard a comment by Dawkins where he says that he was appauled that only 90% of the coientific community are atheistic. |
| 19:18.12 | Monet | scientific* |
| 19:18.18 | Hachiman | I mean, many scientists and innovators of modern science, past and present, are or were of the faith |
| 19:18.41 | Hachiman | Ouch what a dick |
| 19:22.11 | Monet | Just foudn a gem |
| 19:22.28 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.29 | Wormy_away | Sometimes I find Richard Dawkins says really smart things, but some of the stuff he's tweeted I really don't like. |
| 19:23.22 | Wormy_ | I don't like some of his followers either |
| 19:23.23 | Monet | The full title is wordy, I will give Dawkins that |
| 19:23.32 | Monet | Like, really long |
| 19:23.39 | Wormy_ | But the Selfish Gene is a brilliant book |
| 19:24.03 | Monet | Buw hat he's thinking of is "by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" |
| 19:24.41 | Monet | (I wikipedia'd that honestly, but "with respect to" didnt' fee lright to me) |
| 19:27.47 | Monet | There's something that Dawkins seems to be missing in his crusade. |
| 19:28.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 19:28.13 | Monet | *Something* is keeping Christianity as the dominant religion of the Western Hemisphere. |
| 19:28.37 | Monet | Its not blind luck that its not dead yet |
| 19:28.56 | Monet | And as we all surely know, nature doesn't have a rulebook. |
| 19:29.18 | DrodoEmpire | Tradition? :p Irrationality? The fact that it seeks converts? |
| 19:30.00 | Monet | Yeah, it plays off human nature |
| 19:30.44 | Monet | Many humans don't react well to change change, like simple explainnaitons and like easy explainations of what ot like and what to hate. |
| 19:32.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 19:32.49 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 19:32.58 | Monet | The compelling thing about ignorance conservatism and habits is that once they're establishedi n a person, they're not very taxing on the mind or body. |
| 19:34.36 | Monet | It sounds pessamistic but...yeah. Rather ironically the dominance of Abrahamic religion is a product of evolution. |
| 19:34.56 | DrodoEmpire | At least in part I suppose. |
| 19:35.34 | Monet | Darwin himself states that the ones who survive best in an environment aren't neccesserily the strongest or the smartest. |
| 19:35.43 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:36.23 | Monet | Christianity survives because its doctrine is resillient |
| 19:36.50 | Monet | There's some stuff in there that actually makes sense. |
| 19:37.36 | Ghel | And you're getting into the concept of memes here: just like physical characteristics, culture is also subject to selection pressures. |
| 19:38.09 | Monet | Early Christian doctrine was in protest to the behaviour and tendancies of the patrician classes. Ergo so long as rich people exist, Christian principles such as the seven deadly sins and a number of the ten commandments make sense. |
| 19:39.12 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSHPLU3VBRE |
| 19:40.41 | Monet | Ghel: Indeed. Meme or gene, the changing of either to suit the environment is what evolution is. |
| 19:44.18 | Monet | As much as Dawkins is opposed to the concept of religion, his very book "the selfish gene" explains how it can persist. |
| 19:45.15 | Monet | A little dissapointing that his MO for combating it is to take a sledgehammer to peoples' beliefs. |
| 19:45.52 | Monet | Which, as Iraq and ISIS has proved, is the worst way to fight it. |
| 19:47.44 | Wormy_ | David Deutsch takes the idea of memes even further to explain how creativity evolved from gene / meme coevolution |
| 19:47.56 | Wormy_ | Lets not forget that some memes are good |
| 19:48.34 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno if ISIS formed because hey were discriminated against. :p |
| 19:49.14 | Wormy_ | There are anti-rational memes, and then there are ones which do not cause the closure of human mind, such a the ideas of the Enlightenment opening up human philosophy |
| 19:49.38 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Maybe not, but so far dropping bombs on them doesn't seem very effective at making them turn themselves over |
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| 19:50.20 | DrodoEmpire | The US didn't invade the middle east to convert them |
| 19:50.50 | Hachiman | My laptop ran outta charge |
| 19:50.56 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11063857_2288420291205148_568053856742842760_n.jpg?oh=bf78390bacc0766ef3fa106b6661e807&oe=565BED13 |
| 19:51.09 | DrodoEmpire | And as for that no, but that's a problem of military strategy, not philosophy. |
| 19:51.15 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 19:51.19 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 19:51.36 | DrodoEmpire | You aren't going to defeat ISIS with a rational debate, Monet. :p |
| 19:52.26 | Monet | Maybe my metaphor was taken too far |
| 19:52.33 | DrodoEmpire | Complete annihilation of the organization and the leadership through military force is the only way to defeat such radicalism; They're beyond reason. |
| 19:52.48 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps so, but apparently your metaphor's incorrect. :p |
| 19:53.17 | Monet | My point was that despite his work on memes, Dawkins is using a very blunt approach to get peopel to change their mind. |
| 19:53.34 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: Relevant https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c7/bb/47/c7bb473458301ef74724a691755c33db.jpg |
| 19:53.45 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps so. But because its straightforward doesn't mean its a bad way. |
| 19:54.14 | Monet | Peopel tend to turn themselves inward when you force a different opinion on them. |
| 19:54.17 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Very true |
| 19:54.33 | DrodoEmpire | But is it not important to criticize ideas? |
| 19:54.39 | Wormy_ | He advocated open minded debate unless the person debating with you sticks a gun in your face |
| 19:54.50 | Hachiman | Best to just bomb the shit out of ISIS and its followers really |
| 19:54.58 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes of course |
| 19:55.06 | Hachiman | Radicalism, intolerance, and ignorance are the worst forms of cancer |
| 19:55.28 | Wormy_ | But bombing them will inevitably kill innocent people as well. |
| 19:55.47 | Monet | And then locals question who the bad guy really is |
| 19:55.50 | DrodoEmpire | Well no literal bombing runs have been only so-so effective |
| 19:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | I'd advocate a land-based invasion, though honestly that might just lead to bigger problems |
| 19:56.26 | Hachiman | Is that not what caused the problem in the first place :p |
| 19:56.42 | DrodoEmpire | A land-based invasion? |
| 19:57.03 | Hachiman | Well, terrestrial influence of Western militaries in the Middle East |
| 19:57.06 | DrodoEmpire | Sort of, yes. That's why I'm concered it'd only eliminate the immediate threat but be bad in the long-run |
| 19:57.30 | DrodoEmpire | Like if the USA were to invade ISIS ISIS wouldn't stand a chance |
| 19:57.45 | DrodoEmpire | But that'd just leave a vacuum for another, crazier group to take over really |
| 19:58.00 | Hachiman | I doubt you can honestly get crazier than ISIS |
| 19:58.02 | Monet | Solving a problem by killing bad people has the odd chance of making a martyr on the other side. |
| 19:58.13 | DrodoEmpire | Or for something unforeseeable that's also really, really bad |
| 19:58.36 | Hachiman | ISIS is an al-Qaeda rebel sect after all and were disenfranchised due to being too extremist by the latter's standards |
| 19:59.02 | Hachiman | Speaking of which, news of al-Qaeda and the Taliban has died down since the demise of Osama |
| 19:59.46 | OluapPlayer | "What do you think we are? Terrorists?" -Bin Laden |
| 19:59.49 | Monet | And Al-Queda was formed out of anti-Soviet resistance fighters during the Russian invasion of Asfghanistan |
| 19:59.56 | Xho | You know there's a problem when Al-Qaeda thinks you're too extreme |
| 19:59.58 | Hachiman | olol |
| 20:00.05 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:00.18 | Monet | Maybe what we have is a Hyrdra effect |
| 20:00.32 | Hachiman | From what I hear, ISIS is astoundingly unpopular in the Middle East |
| 20:00.51 | Monet | We killed Osama, but that only made gave breathing room for Abu. |
| 20:00.56 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes they're completely illegitimate. They have zero right to rule |
| 20:01.08 | Monet | We cut the head off a snake only for two to grow in its place - Al Quaeda and ISIS |
| 20:01.10 | OluapPlayer | best solution is to kill everyone |
| 20:01.19 | OluapPlayer | ALL DIE EQUALLY |
| 20:01.33 | Xho | dat some xhodocto logik |
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| 20:05.39 | Hachiman | Eugh |
| 20:09.15 | Hachiman | http://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1436314136327.jpg Whoa boy |
| 20:09.44 | OluapPlayer | That makes me angry |
| 20:10.02 | DrodoEmpire | This SJW stuff is getting out of hand |
| 20:10.33 | DrodoEmpire | That isn't even cringe that's just |
| 20:10.39 | DrodoEmpire | That's just lunacy |
| 20:10.55 | Hachiman | You're not helping the marginalized |
| 20:11.28 | Hachiman | You are painting a very bad image of the oppressed by calling them lunatics |
| 20:12.17 | Xho | shup |
| 20:12.20 | OluapPlayer | GAS THEM ALL |
| 20:12.29 | Hachiman | It is like you just outright support domestic abuse and rape without consideration for others |
| 20:12.30 | OluapPlayer | PUT THE BODIES ON THE WALLS AS WARNING |
| 20:12.41 | Xho | Hachiman: Well yes |
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| 20:13.47 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Most of the lunacy comes from a shitty phiulosophers of postmodernism |
| 20:14.12 | Xho | Postmodernism |
| 20:14.13 | Wormy_ | Not attacking all postmodernism there but it has some anti-rational material |
| 20:14.13 | Xho | eugh |
| 20:14.31 | Xho | Sociological theories on postmodernism is vague at best |
| 20:14.39 | Wormy_ | According to some Newton's Principia is a rape manual |
| 20:14.59 | Wormy_ | Because it focuses on the physics of rigid bodies |
| 20:15.06 | OluapPlayer | Goddamn am I bored |
| 20:15.24 | Wormy_ | hence it must be the white male scientist fantasy of their penis size |
| 20:15.41 | Wormy_ | What a stupid, hateful philosophy |
| 20:16.06 | DrodoEmpire | I just call it "Regressive SJW bullshit" |
| 20:16.57 | Wormy_ | Obviously looking at that link they have no evidence before proven guilty, instead mobs law and twitter lynching |
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| 20:26.05 | Pastarios | Hachiman: You bomb ISIS = more Arabs die = more Arabs hate you = more Arabs join ISIS = ISIS wins |
| 20:26.25 | Pastarios | Better pull off a proper ground invasion as it is done in Mother Russia |
| 20:26.29 | Pastarios | Much more precise |
| 20:28.13 | Monet | Cept Mother Russia lost i nAfghanistan |
| 20:28.20 | Wormy_ | I don't know what the West can do, if anything. Its a nice idea to believe that it can solve the world's problems and we'll live in a sustainable stable utopia, but world just isn't a simple place |
| 20:28.23 | Xho | Or just do a Xhodocto and destroy everything right down to planck length |
| 20:28.27 | Pastarios | ... Help us |
| 20:28.39 | Pastarios | Okay we do it together and then you can have Donbass |
| 20:28.51 | Pastarios | That is actually a brilliant idea |
| 20:29.22 | Pastarios | But then again Russians are meh towards the Middle East because, ideals aside, they are our main competitors on the oil market |
| 20:29.33 | Pastarios | So we do not mind a little hassle in there |
| 20:29.36 | Wormy_ | I fact I believe the Western politicians now feel paralysed and we all feel like cogs in a machine beyond our control. In the political / economical sense |
| 20:29.37 | Xho | "@snakeatah Look you fuckin furry yiffer" My sides |
| 20:29.56 | Pastarios | Hachiman: Sherlock Opressor |
| 20:30.00 | CyraBot | ð·ðºð·ðºð·ðº |
| 20:31.30 | Monet | Wormy_: The western impulse to make the world rwhat we want it to be has casued a few problems. |
| 20:32.30 | Wormy_ | In fact its been said that we embrace the idea we are helpless cogs because we have no idea what to do, because anything we do, good or bad, has negative consequences. Hence we see inaction as op;posed to to the progressive ideals of the past |
| 20:32.56 | Wormy_ | And inaction is what we see right now, in the West, imo |
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| 20:39.32 | Wormy_ | I just realised I enacted this idea and then stated the meme which is masking me feel it |
| 20:40.10 | DrodoEmpire | dank meme |
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| 20:41.24 | Wormy_ | Of course, political change must be possible, as it has occurred in the past, though the West has failed in recent years. Example: use of social media in political change: few years ago it seemed like the phone was the tool that toppled giants |
| 20:41.47 | Wormy_ | But that has backfired when you look at Syria and Egypt |
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| 20:43.15 | Wormy_ | But it may be the effect of us simplifying our understanding of politics and economy, and now we feel the limits of those myths |
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| 20:44.28 | Xho | "Lets challenge Japan to a mech fight, What could possibly go wrong?" |
| 20:46.39 | Monet | Xho: I saw that |
| 20:47.03 | Xho | OluapPlaying: "They are known for being greedy creatures, which has given them the stereotype of being the "merchant" race of the Xhodocto Dominion despite its post-scarcity society. " "Kondrakar has wares if you have coin" |
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| 21:08.19 | Wormy_ | http://www.jstor.org/stable/3810051?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents |
| 21:09.21 | DrodoEmpire | Wait |
| 21:09.23 | DrodoEmpire | What |
| 21:10.09 | Wormy_ | postmodernism in science |
| 21:10.26 | DrodoEmpire | Is that the proper term? |
| 21:10.30 | Wormy_ | It was part of a period known as the science wars |
| 21:10.32 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 21:10.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 21:10.46 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_wars |
| 21:10.57 | DrodoEmpire | So that's the name of the stuff the "feminists" and SJWs subscribe to |
| 21:11.33 | Wormy_ | I believe so |
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| 21:11.48 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 21:11.48 | Wormy_ | The science side pretty much won it with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair |
| 21:12.11 | Wormy_ | A nonsense paper was published and became popular among postmodernist academia |
| 21:12.11 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 21:12.17 | Dogerios | Call me once Tybusen returns |
| 21:12.27 | Wormy_ | Okay |
| 21:16.02 | TekDroid | Wormy_: That's ridiculous. I really don't get that postmodernist nonsense. |
| 21:17.18 | Wormy_ | indeed |
| 21:18.41 | drom_ | some shitbird shat on the indoor panel of my window when it was open |
| 21:18.59 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 21:19.39 | Wormy_ | This is Sokal's book used to trick postmodernist giants http://www.physics.nyu.edu/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html |
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| 21:22.46 | TekDroid | Is there even any real substance to it besides "No matter what evidence you have I'm right because I said so.? |
| 21:24.13 | Wormy_ | And I think postmodernism is about "it feels good" |
| 21:26.04 | DrodoEmpire | I find a lot of related stuff (like SJWs) are normally the economically privileged type trying to manufacture a victim narrative. :p |
| 21:27.13 | Dogerios | Them middle-class bastards |
| 21:27.16 | Wormy_ | I believe there are real gender issues. But these irrational approaches don't help society improve them. |
| 21:27.25 | TekDroid | Indeed |
| 21:27.47 | Wormy_ | And also, I fear its used to justify contempt for men |
| 21:27.56 | Wormy_ | When gender issues also effect men |
| 21:28.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:28.57 | Wormy_ | Recently I watched a social experiment of a woman beating up a man. People followed, laughed, and joined in. Worse when the defended himself, the mob pushed him away like he was the problem. |
| 21:28.59 | DrodoEmpire | But I dunno, I feel in the west gender inequality is exaggerated; Primarily because of these types |
| 21:29.17 | Wormy_ | There is your so-called "white male privilege" |
| 21:30.30 | Wormy_ | Or rather, *where is your* in that context |
| 21:31.12 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1a/Mahanayan2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150708212846 New Mahanayans |
| 21:31.30 | Xho | Also, fuk u all to those who thought I couldn't use the outfitter |
| 21:31.41 | Dogerios | Xho: Neigh |
| 21:32.18 | Xho | Now someone gimme a quote to put on top of the Mahanayan page |
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| 21:34.07 | TekDroid | It's disappointing to see those SJW justifying racism and sexism as "equality". |
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| 21:34.53 | Monet | You look in some cases it seems to be inverted. |
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| 21:36.37 | Monet | Like in the social experiment Wormy saw: Woman beats up a man? No one sees a problem. Man meats up a woman? They cry "MYSOGYNIST!" |
| 21:36.57 | Monet | Eve nif its self-defence |
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| 21:37.10 | Quark8 | Hello. |
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| 21:43.00 | ImpyDroid | Azhsj |
| 21:47.17 | ImpyDroid | Right so Tybu is not contacting |
| 21:47.18 | ImpyDroid | Right |
| 21:47.31 | Wormy_ | not yet |
| 21:48.03 | ImpyDroid | Can you tell them that we can meet at 15:00 near the Palace of the Doges? |
| 21:48.22 | ImpyDroid | Near the two big pillars, specifically the one with the lion on it |
| 21:48.52 | Xho | I'd say this is the first time two users have ever met in real life |
| 21:49.07 | Monet | Xho: Wormy and Ghel calim they've met |
| 21:49.11 | Monet | claim* |
| 21:49.12 | Xho | rite |
| 21:49.13 | Xho | dam |
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| 21:57.23 | Wormy_ | No, we haven't met. We are just most capable of meeting |
| 21:57.52 | Wormy_ | Ghelae told me where he studies, and I told him he can come to Cafe Sci with me |
| 21:57.57 | Monet | Then Tybusen and Imeprios would be the first Sporewiki users to do so. |
| 21:58.41 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.44 | Xho | Are any of you guys thin to the point where you've accidentally bashed your skeletal frame on a desk |
| 21:59.49 | Xho | Because it bloody hurts |
| 21:59.58 | TekLowBattery | O.o |
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| 22:01.16 | ImpyDroid | Right going to sleep |
| 22:01.31 | Wormy_ | In what way, Xho? |
| 22:01.33 | ImpyDroid | If Tybu answers let me know on the message wall |
| 22:01.38 | Wormy_ | Of course |
| 22:02.14 | Xho | I was coming to sit down |
| 22:02.25 | Xho | The arch of my rib cage collided with the desk |
| 22:03.04 | Monet | Ooh that's gotta smart |
| 22:03.28 | Xho | The pains of being under 150 lbs |
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| 22:19.14 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 22:19.15 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:19.45 | ImpyDroid | Damn that Yankee |
| 22:20.02 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
| 22:20.16 | ImpyDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:à¤
मर what is this |
| 22:20.20 | ImpyDroid | Xho read dis |
| 22:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | He's been around, editing his own profile for a while. |
| 22:20.58 | DrodoEmpire | Its... A little weird |
| 22:21.00 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:21.10 | Xho | dat be hindi |
| 22:21.17 | Xho | My family didn't speak Hindi hur |
| 22:22.18 | Xho | Devanagari isn't my forte |
| 22:30.36 | Wormy_ | http://www.pixte.com/491111/15-incredible-images-of-borders-that-will-warp-your-view-of-the-world/3/ |
| 22:42.31 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Mahanayan Completely rewritten |
| 22:52.27 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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