IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150705

00:01.15dromWormy_ Cyrannian Charles_Murray: I'll publish the story once I've worked out the GEC's MCA-membership.
00:01.46Wormy_CyraEmp as far as I'm aware is not a MCA member.
00:01.57CyrannianIndeed and it never was
00:01.59Wormy_not an
00:02.14dromYeah yeah.
00:02.27dromJust me and my poor vision
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00:05.23DrodoEmpireHi everyone
00:06.48MonetHi
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00:34.41CyrannianNight folks
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00:52.09DrodoEmpireBAck
00:52.10DrodoEmpire:p
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01:56.19Wormy_Added the first part of the first quest http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War/Trials_of_Kilnok
01:56.55Wormy_Not yet spell or grammar revised
01:57.02Wormy_goodnight
02:46.08DrodoEmpiretest
02:46.53MonetLoud and clear
02:48.23OfficerJackalMonet: Nigg- *Looks at Technobliterator* I mean dark colored urban homie who brings all da dank kush, dats mai lien.
02:49.08MonetMine now. :>
02:51.37OfficerJackal:<
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03:06.17MonetGoodnight
03:06.39OfficerJackaln8 m8
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07:23.51JepardiHi
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08:40.11DogeriosFinally I am in pizzaland
08:40.56Liquid_InkItaly?
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09:16.45dromCharles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/qU2DMEW.png
09:17.32dromCharles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/kcZZagI.png
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09:46.01GhelaeHello.
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10:35.47HachimanHaii
10:38.25GhelaeHello.
10:51.51AdmiralPanda_hi
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12:00.58Wormy_hi
12:01.13MonetHi
12:01.37Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:DCP-Vermulan_War/Trials_of_Kilnok
12:02.56Wormy_I was going to do the scene where they get shot.  But thought that last paragraph did that justice
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12:06.33Wormy_Impy, is that you?
12:23.44Wormy_So Zambia wanted to send "Afronauts" to the Moon in 1964 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZwDiBooiXk
12:23.46Moneti THINK IT IS
12:23.50MonetI think it is
12:25.00Liquid_InkExcited Monet
12:25.10MonetI accidentally had caps lock on
12:32.14MonetWormy_: I like these Kraw.
12:32.18MonetThese Tahar, sorry
12:32.50MonetAlthough I was a little surpised there was a human in the refugee camp.
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12:42.43XhpOh okay my name is Xhp all of a sudden
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12:56.29HachimanHai
12:58.40MonetHello
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13:25.45Hachiman>Pastarios
13:25.49HachimanImp is in Italy?
13:26.02PastariosSi
13:28.38OluapPlayerImp is anywhere but where he'd be productive
13:30.15PastariosNorth Korea is not a happy 9
13:30.20PastariosPlace
13:35.50Xhorekt
13:36.19Xho"A gang member has died because he tried to gold plate his own testicles to celebrate his 17th birthday. "
13:36.33OluapPlayerFucking ouch
13:37.27HachimanJesus
13:40.08MonetEqual parts egotistical and stupid dat.
13:41.12HachimanSo I am looking more into DC's animated movies and their latest one, Justice League: Gods and Monsters, has a rather curious premise due to it being set in an alternative universe to the standard animated Justice League series and films
13:41.16AdmiralPandahe loved gooooold
13:42.31HachimanSuperman is the son of General Zod, who was rocketed from Krypton as a child to Earth and raised by a family of Mexican immigrants, and Batman is Kirk Langstrom - aka the mutated Man-Bat in comics and other media - who has become some form of vampire who preys on criminals in order to feed his bloodlust
13:42.55MonetAdmiralPanda: FUnnily enough about an hour ago the theme tune to GOldfinger was on my radio
13:43.01XhoSo now Superman is Clarko Kento
13:43.43HachimanAnd Wonder Woman is a New God and the wife of the New God Orion rather than an Amazonian princess
13:44.09HachimanThe Justice League is still founded in this universe apparently
13:44.51MonetWait...
13:44.56OluapPlayerClarko Kento the Superhomo
13:45.08MonetIf Superman's outfit was partially based on the colours of the American flag...
13:45.09HachimanFunny cus homo means man
13:45.12Xhoay caramba
13:45.26OluapPlayerman was always a faggot
13:45.30MonetDoes that mean Mexian Superman wears red and green?
13:46.53HachimanNot entirely sure
13:47.11HachimanI would try and look for pictures but my internet is being shitty
13:47.50Monethttp://orig06.deviantart.net/cf9a/f/2015/096/3/9/gam_superman_watermarked_by_jtsentertainment-d8op17b.png apparently he decided not to wear the S at all
13:48.08MonetWell
13:48.12MonetNot on his chest at least
13:48.49HachimanI might just do a Xho and destroy this monitor if the internet keeps like this
13:48.51Monethttp://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/101638/the-superman-of-justice-league-gods-monsters.jpg?w=600 dat facial hair
13:49.09HachimanWell he is Zod's son
13:49.11MonetI shall now call this version MirrorSuperman.
13:49.29OluapPlayerDon't be an edgy fagola
13:49.46XhoHachiman: Don't do that unless you've got money to replace it huer
13:49.49Xhohur*
13:50.09MonetXho can afford to punch monitors because he has dosh.
13:50.48OluapPlayerAnd presumably his family won't remove his right to use the computer for doing it
13:52.00OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ed/The_Children_of_Fuerq.png/revision/latest?cb=20150705135141 have a big guy (4 u etc)
13:52.05AdmiralPandaso what I'm seeing is another case of "we ran out of ideas so the heroes are evil bcus alternate reality so no meaningful development"
13:52.24XhoWell...it is my computer
13:52.34XhoI bought it and all that
13:53.46HachimanOluapPlayer: dat thea'nhirara behind do
13:54.05OluapPlayerwat bout it
13:54.17HachimanAdmiralPanda: Well, as far as I know the Justice League in Gods and Monsters are still good guys per se, but more morally questionable than the one shown in most media
13:54.45HachimanAlso Laminoula is fucking huge hur
13:55.09AdmiralPandaI mostly lose interest once AU is announced because the content means nothing in the long term
13:55.45MonetWOuld it be fair to say this sounds like edgy BAtman?
13:56.42HachimanWell Kirk Langstrom is not the same man Bruce Banner is and he became the Batman under different circumstances
13:56.44MonetHachiman: The first part of act three mentions Koluap is the size of his toe.
13:57.03OluapPlayerYep
13:57.19HachimanHachi - i bet i still hav a bigga dik dan u tho
13:57.35OluapPlayerLaminoula'Fuerq - shuddup u virgin fag
13:57.41MonetTHat's a pretty impressive crest
13:58.03MonetOn Laminoula I mean
14:00.35HachimanGods and Monsters shows that G&M Batman is required to feed off blood due to his vampiric nature thus chooses to use his gadgets and whatever powers he does have for good against the criminal underworld of Gotham City, G&M Superman is shown to be not so different from the standard Superman except there is far less bullshit for him to exploit to mak
14:00.35Hachimane a happy ending for everyone
14:01.30MonetOh okay
14:01.57HachimanI do not know too much about Wonder Woman honestly so I dunno the difference between her and her G&M counterpart beyond backstory
14:09.13Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s960x960/11012428_2283027601744417_4787146638881478489_o.jpg
14:18.28Wormy_Well the weather just went from still to windy in a flash
14:18.58Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/1908076_10206405057297989_3831252711065502137_n.jpg?oh=e572e5eba25381178a6747a8cf9a68a1&oe=561E1077
14:20.18Wormy_Fate http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/car-flips-into-air-after-being-struck-by-lightning-in-freak-electrical-storm-accident-10366208.html
14:20.23Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11695431_1062441943768547_6183417504667167526_n.png?oh=7fb03819391fe9af85206c0c699f4488&oe=565B3B2C WITNESS
14:20.46Wormy_Man's car gets flipped by lightning.  Man gets breathalysed and arrested.
14:23.06OluapPlayerded
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14:28.11CyrannianHello!
14:28.17OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
14:28.17infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
14:28.42dino82_hello
14:29.39Cyrannian~dropkick OluapPlayer
14:29.39infobotACTION sends OluapPlayer flying like a yipping chihuahua
14:40.53Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/limTuEs
14:42.40dromCyrannian: Are you fine that NS recovers NC's blueprints for the Venator and retrofits it?
14:43.07CyrannianIndeed, that's fine
14:43.57Xho"SPECIAL BEAM CANNON!"
14:45.50XhoI should really write something on the fact that Caligaduro has 33 names in use
14:49.58Xho33 #meshuggah #illuminaticonfirmed
14:50.29Wormy_swiggoty swoty ima comin for dat booty http://imgur.com/gallery/DqM3yCk
14:50.34dromCharles_Murray Monet Wormy_: Should I add the part to the GXS page or as a sub-page?
14:51.01Wormy_I would say its okay on the GXS page,, for it does not involve character dialogue
14:51.11dromGud
14:52.11Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11665496_10203711124532517_1193212085248817371_n.jpg?oh=02788bf21c8eb35e5d494d5ca106e72e&oe=563070D2
14:56.54dromOne question more though... Wormy_away: I wonder where in the Andromeda Campaign I should consider putting that in
15:11.02dromI'll add it after the "Campaign for Inner Andromeda".
15:11.11Monetdrom: The way yuo've written it I'm guessing its just after Larnus' death
15:11.41dromMonet: Funny that you just said that right after I clicked the "publish" button
15:12.29dromThere, I now moved that between the Passage and Inner Andromeda
15:13.30Monetbbl
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15:20.00dromHello
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15:23.13dromAlright, I'll need to make a battleplan map for the new section
15:29.10OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#The_Children_of_Fuerq new section
15:29.17OluapPlayerHachiman Xho Wormy_away Cyrannian: blah
15:29.24OluapPlayerOh and Technobliterator too
15:29.36Technobliterator1 sec
15:30.41XhoThere must be a 'descendant of gods' club somewhere in the Gigaquadrant
15:30.48XhoHerquie just got the T-shirt hur
15:32.14OluapPlayerHerquie is different because he doesn't like being part of said club
15:32.33CyrannianI shall dis out
15:32.57OluapPlayerF5 that
15:34.02HachimanMan Herquie's a jerk hur
15:34.24OluapPlayerCan you blame him?
15:34.34HachimanWell, not really
15:34.50HachimanThis is all new to him after all and it is far beyond his comfort zone
15:34.58Technobliteratorok let's have a look
15:35.08XhoMimi cries -> Instant jerk
15:35.19OluapPlayerThere's that
15:35.21CyrannianHe's being a lil bich
15:35.33OluapPlayerMaking Mimi cry is like being mean to a cute kitten
15:36.01Technobliteratorwoah
15:36.03CyrannianThough I do like "you little ball of lard"
15:36.19Technobliteratorpoor old Herquie
15:37.01OluapPlayerWhat Laminoula did to him was basically give him a nine-dimensional view of the universe when he's not even ascended yet
15:37.12OluapPlayerSo kinda a total mindfuck I guess
15:37.15TechnobliteratorI mean, what he's doing is wrong, but I feel sorry for him
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15:38.57OluapPlayerHe's a jerk but he got caught in a huge mess and just wants to live normally
15:39.11Technobliteratorand is more or less being held against his well
15:39.16XhoSo double jerk mode then hur
15:39.29Technobliteratorhaving just played KOTOR, I'm getting similar vibes from this
15:39.31TechnobliteratorThis is good
15:39.39OluapPlayerHe's technically a prisoner since he tried to kill Windey in part 1
15:39.45OluapPlayerSo if he tried to escape Koluap would kill him
15:39.50HachimanMakes me wonder if Thea ever did something like that to Hachi
15:40.05OluapPlayerProbably not since Hachi's not stupidly stubborn
15:40.17XhoHachi -  is this what bondage is like           Thea  - far from it *purge*
15:40.36OluapPlayerLaminoula was disobeying Sonhadromerith's orders when he explained Herquie's link to Rhigeo Fuerq
15:40.50OluapPlayerAnd Thea NEVER disobeys Sonhad
15:41.43HachimanI wonder if Sonhadromerith punished Laminoula for it
15:41.53Technobliteratorwoah
15:42.03TechnobliteratorI am impressed
15:42.21OluapPlayerLaminoula dies by the end of part 3
15:42.24OluapPlayerSo probably not
15:45.36XhoHm
15:45.56XhoI think I might rename Xi'Arazkha so that his name is Maktanshatin instead
15:46.20XhoWould make a litte more sense considering the hierarchy really
15:46.30OluapPlayerIf you want
15:47.21Cyrannianhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a8/LegateOlcinius.png/revision/latest?cb=20150705154626 - A calibratory new model
15:47.43OluapPlayerNo more Grox implants?
15:49.56CyrannianWhoops
15:57.08HachimanThat is a pretty cool model
16:16.37Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/eb/XiarazulhaKithworto2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150705161611 new Xi'Arazulha picture
16:19.59OluapPlayerarrow faic
16:20.33HachimanLiterally :>
16:20.37HachimanOr |>
16:23.19Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Borealis_Rebellion#Chapter_Three:_A_Turn_for_the_Worst - Two new chapters
16:24.22OluapPlayerchek dat shi
16:26.02Hachiman>two new chapters
16:26.04Hachimanur askin 2 much
16:27.38OluapPlayeraskin 2 much of someone who writes none
16:29.19HachimanI gotta say, I do like Harana's attitude in this hur
16:30.00HachimanHim and Mortgrel's relationship is pretty nice as well
16:30.20OluapPlayerHarana is a huge jerkweed
16:30.32OluapPlayerMy guess is that power went over his head ever since the Heleanorian Civil War
16:45.35dromXho: Vinesauce but bleh https://youtu.be/qNHLqwZThPw?t=9m31s
16:47.41Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/p200x200/10330445_1120540027961747_4711245551682183628_n.jpg?oh=1a4b170193986353a1923a8380296e8e&oe=5626B1C1
16:48.18OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGalactic_Empire_of_Cyrannus/Imperial_Navy%2FCaptains_and_Commodores in case anyone wants to know more about Mortgrel, you can check this page
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16:49.43OluapPlayerPastarios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#The_Children_of_Fuerq cease your pizza eating and check new section
16:49.47XhoDrom: So in six days he nuked Norway and got assassinated
16:50.11dromWith 5000 nuclear missiles, yeah
16:50.29Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xi%27Arazulha eh i'll do the rest later
16:51.22dromXho: In one of the next games he once again nukes a country, this time it was Japan
16:51.48dromHe later gets removed by a coup sponsored by the same Japan
16:51.52Xhoolol
16:52.05dromI loved his comments in the end when he saw the results screen
16:52.37drom"It was Japan... It was Japan... Fuck you Japan, Japan. Next time, Japan."
16:54.12HachimanEUGH
16:54.14HachimanFUCKING SHITTERNET
16:54.15HachimanWORK
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16:54.52OluapPlayerget bullied
16:56.26dromXho: He also had the audacity to send 2,000 troopers to Soviet Russia, which had 900,000 troopers.
16:56.27HachimanFuck it I'm going on the laptop
16:56.37Xholel
16:57.23dromPastarios: Señorita Сука
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16:59.57HachimanOf fucking course the internet on my PC works as soon as I boot up the laptop
17:00.01HachimanEugh
17:00.17XhoWelcome to my nightmares
17:00.17Xhokek
17:00.40dromWelcome to my countryside life
17:00.42dromtop kek
17:05.37OfficerJackalhttp://i.imgur.com/R1NPWI0.jpg - YUROP TROOK SIMULATORE 2 OPEN THE B8S TO EBUL.
17:06.31dromdafuq OfficerJackal
17:08.00OfficerJackalDrom: HAIL RENAULT.
17:08.10OfficerJackaldrom: PURGE THE VOLVOS
17:08.25dromrenault suck
17:08.41dromvolvo will always win
17:08.49OfficerJackalHERESY! LIES FROM A HERETIC!
17:08.58OfficerJackalshuns drom to the 310 horsepower Iveco.
17:08.58dromdamn how did you figure out?
17:10.46dromDoesn't beat Volvo's 750 Globetrotter
17:10.50drom750hp*
17:11.03drom750 hp even
17:11.58OfficerJackalSILENCE! You will be confined to the Iveco for eternity as your punishment against the renault gods! You will forever drive the swiss mountain roads, with a 25 Ton load!
17:12.07XhoFord *everyone laughs*
17:13.48OluapPlayerhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/05/The_Fall_of_the_Bonio_Republic.png/revision/latest?cb=20150705171338 deemuns
17:14.54dromXho: Fords are so goddamn ugly
17:14.56HachimanAww yiss
17:15.01HachimanThat looks awesome
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17:15.59drombrb dinnah time
17:16.03OluapPlayerThe little fire places on the ground are her footsteps
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17:18.27Hachiman_Ngh
17:18.56Hachiman_Well looks like today is going to go severely downhill from here
17:19.22Hachiman_My mother just stormed out of the house for some reason and drove away after slamming the front door hard enough to make my room shake
17:19.36OluapPlayerYickes
17:19.40Hachiman_And my stepdad is not in a good mood either
17:21.04OfficerJackalOluapPlayer: http://imgur.com/695TbOU - ALL HAIL THE RENAULT DEMONS.
17:21.32OluapPlayerEh?
17:21.35Hachiman_Go away with EuroTruck
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17:22.15Hachiman_If you are just going to spam everybody with inside jokes or shitty memes then I suggest you stop
17:23.24OluapPlayerI'm gonna assume you pinged the wrong person
17:23.28OfficerJackalHachiman_: I could say the same about you posting your personal issues in the public chat, and doing jokes that I don't find funny, but I don't. If you have an issue, PM me politely and I will stop.
17:23.39OfficerJackalThis is the second time you have lashed at me about this.
17:23.43OfficerJackalAnd it's really annoying me.
17:26.13TechnobliteratorOkay, do I have to break anything up?
17:26.31Hachiman_Not really, Jackal is just being aggressive because I don't find him funny
17:26.37Hachiman_Nor does anyone else really for that matter
17:26.47OfficerJackalYou were the agressor here. :/ Being rude and cursing.
17:26.54OfficerJackalI'm merely reacting.
17:28.24Hachiman_Don't see how me asking you to stop was rude or aggressive and I certainly do not see how cursing in the context I used it was aggressive either
17:28.28TechnobliteratorShifting the blame doesn't help anyone's case here
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17:30.19OfficerJackalYou know, if I wanted to, I could post in the IRC everytime you did a joke how I don't like it and wish for you to stop, but I don't because it's just jokes, and someone besides me might find it funny. Yesterday and today you have done that, I bet if everytime you tried to joke around I asked you to stop, you wouldn't feel that good.
17:31.21Hachiman_Alright, alright, you don't need to lecture me
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17:38.57Hachiman_Hello Mon
17:39.48MonetHallo
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17:56.37drom26 degress celcius indoors, while it is 23 outside
17:57.32dromThe heatwave is really claiming its victims
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18:29.43DrodoEmpireHey everyone
18:29.54SovnarkomHello Comrade.
18:30.00Monethello
18:30.18SovnarkomAfter SO MANY flippin' trys, I finally made a creature I actually like.
18:30.39SovnarkomI call it, the Horgubon.
18:30.47SovnarkomOr some name similar to that.
18:31.39SovnarkomI actually have an interesting backstory for them.
18:31.57Hachiman_Do you have a picture of it?
18:32.15SovnarkomNot yet.
18:32.21SovnarkomI was so tired last night I forgot to snap one.
18:32.23SovnarkomBut I will.
18:32.34SovnarkomAnd not only that, but my creatures are on another computer, which is my gaming computer.
18:32.39SovnarkomThe one I'm using now isn't.
18:32.47SovnarkomBut I will snap a photo today and show you.
18:33.21Hachiman_What are the Horgubon like?
18:34.13SovnarkomWell, the story is, that, long ago, the Horgubon were blue-skinned creatures of a war-like character, splitting into a total of 12 different tribes, all fighting against each other.
18:34.43SovnarkomOne of the Horgubon (don't have a name yet), stood up, and decided to end this fighting, by building a vast army, loyal to him, and defeating all the 12 tribes, uniting them into one union.
18:35.44DrodoEmpireHow long ago would this unification be?
18:35.58SovnarkomIn my fic, it's still happening.
18:36.04SovnarkomWait.
18:36.08SovnarkomWhat do you mean by that?
18:36.14SovnarkomLike, when did the Unfication officially happen?
18:36.20SovnarkomOr is this unification still happening?
18:37.37SovnarkomIf it is the former, I am not sure.
18:37.58SovnarkomIf it is the latter, after the unification of the 12 tribes, they were able to advance technologically.
18:38.57DrodoEmpireI meant the former
18:39.04DrodoEmpireAnd hm
18:39.22DrodoEmpireHow large was this world they inhabited? Twelve nations seems like a *very* small number is all
18:39.39Hachiman_Yeah it does
18:39.50DrodoEmpireWhen you look at our world there are at least dozens of nations at any one time across a vast geographical range
18:39.52Hachiman_Unless "tribes" refers to something bigger like actual advanced nations
18:39.58DrodoEmpire^
18:40.22DrodoEmpireIf it doesn't, and these people are only spread across, say, a small continent then unification would be startlingly early but very much so possible
18:41.15SovnarkomTribes are basically just another way to say empires.
18:41.21SovnarkomOr something of that nature.
18:41.23DrodoEmpireWell, actually even with large advanced nations there are still dozens of those
18:42.06MonetWhat if by "tribe" you refer to broad ethinicities?
18:42.26DrodoEmpireReally I'd consider the mid to late 19th century as the world just about at its most unified and in a way almost at its most peaceful; Yet even then there were still many major empires vying for powr, neither able to quite win out
18:42.52DrodoEmpireYeah this is *very* vague, which is understandable as an early draft
18:43.01DrodoEmpire"Tribe" is a wideopen sort of word
18:43.11SovnarkomYea.
18:43.25DrodoEmpireIt can mean "state", "nation", "empire" or very commonly "ethnicity".
18:43.52DrodoEmpireAnd ethnicities only really have a nation to their own when there is a conspicuous *lack* of empires. And there are hundreds of ethnicities
18:45.19DrodoEmpireAs empires tend to bring many ethnicities under their rule by their very nature
18:45.57SovnarkomBasically, the story I'm going with for the Horgubon is this, on the planet of (no name yet), there lived the Horgubon, a rather primitive race of blue-skinned creatures, who were divided into 12 different tribes, who fought against each other for glory, resources, and domination. One of the Horgubon (not named yet), seeing the constant fighting and the counter-productiveness of it, amassed an army of his own, to end it once an
18:46.03Sovnarkom-ribes
18:46.20DrodoEmpireAnd then what?
18:46.34SovnarkomThey were all combined into one union, and the leading Horgubon became its sovereign.
18:46.40DrodoEmpireAbout what technological level were they at by the time of this tribal infighting? Bronze age?
18:46.44Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Borealis_Rebellion#Chapter_Five:_Infiltrating_the_Cognatus  - Next chapter
18:46.46SovnarkomSort of like that.
18:46.49DrodoEmpireHmm
18:46.51SovnarkomTribal infighting.
18:46.55SovnarkomThey were like, primitive
18:47.17DrodoEmpireI don't mean to be overly nitpicky but nation rarely stand for more than a thousand years, let alone from the bronze age to the space age
18:47.23DrodoEmpire*nations
18:47.39SovnarkomBut after the unification of the 12 tribes, the Horgubon were able to advance technologically, pooling their resources together to build up society.
18:47.52SovnarkomBut DrodoEmpire, it's fiction. ;)
18:48.03SovnarkomBut yea, I see where you're getting at.
18:48.03DrodoEmpireIt still needs to be believable. :p
18:48.06MonetAnd those that do (like Greece...sort-of) tend to be vastly different culturally from what the foudners set up
18:48.13DrodoEmpire^
18:48.17SovnarkomYea.
18:48.24SovnarkomEach of the tribes is different in their own way.
18:48.30DrodoEmpireAnd what I mean is that an *unbroken government*
18:48.34SovnarkomOh.
18:49.11DrodoEmpireLike the idea of the Greek nation has been around since the bronze age. Yet it went through so many different governments, foreign and native, unity and disunity you could hardly call modern-day Greece the same country as Alexander's empire
18:49.23SovnarkomYea.
18:49.34DrodoEmpire(and yes i know Alexander was Macedonian. blow me :p)
18:50.11DrodoEmpireSo as for an unbroken government, those are lucky to last a few centuries
18:50.14MonetThat and if these twelve nations have been warring until their unification, what prevented the violence from reemerging
18:50.25DrodoEmpireWhat I propose is this;
18:50.40DrodoEmpireIn ancient times, these tribes were reunited, briefly, under a great conqueror.
18:50.46SovnarkomStrong rule by that Horgubon (don't know his name yet).
18:51.02MonetScotland has been a part of England since the 1600s and now they have a nationalist group i ncharge that's depserate to leave.
18:51.11DrodoEmpireThis empire soon blew apart after his death, but the idea of Horgubon unification was now an ambition all aspired to
18:51.12SovnarkomBasically, in order for the 12 to stop reemerging, fighting each other, he had to set up a strong rulership over the 12.
18:51.20OluapPlayerHachiman_: c new borealis rebellion thingy
18:51.48SovnarkomBut in later years, it began to be less and less controlling, since the Horgubon began to be more social than that of war-like.
18:51.52DrodoEmpireSo now the Horgubon went through stages of unity and disunity, war and peace for centuries until someone, much *much* later and near the beginning of the space age unites them once and for all
18:52.06DrodoEmpireA *little* like Chinese history in a way
18:52.38DrodoEmpireThis to me keeps the general spirit while making it a *bit* more believable (as a history nerd. :p)
18:52.54DrodoEmpire(And no you aren't expected to write about *all* of that history. XD)
18:52.55SovnarkomThink of like the Warring States Period in China.
18:53.02DrodoEmpireExactly
18:53.05SovnarkomYea.
18:53.17MonetThe other thing is that if we take real-world history into account, the death or abdication of the first leader is usually the most critical point, and what somces after their passing can determine if the empire lasts 300 years or just three.
18:53.19SovnarkomAll the different kingdoms in China fighting each other for control.
18:53.27DrodoEmpireHow the idea of a united China was first brought forward by the Qin, continued by the Han, and then they went through periods of civil war as more people stepped up
18:53.48DrodoEmpireYeah
18:53.48Hachiman_rite borealis rebellion
18:54.33DrodoEmpireJust as well your people could first be unified by someone, then it breaks apart and everyone wants to be him, basically and fights for that, occasionally succeeding for a bit.
18:55.09SovnarkomI actually was thinking about at first, having a unified nation, with all twelve tribes united, but as this nation began to crumble, the tribes slowly began to fight each other.
18:55.16SovnarkomThen this uknown Horgubon comes and unites them again.
18:55.21SovnarkomTo return them to greatness!
18:55.47MonetAlso unification does not always automatically mean technological progress.
18:56.21MonetThere's been evidence found in the Library of Alexander of steam engines dating back to the tiem of Alexander.
18:56.38MonetThe problem was the Hellenic scholars didn't see much point in them
18:57.07SovnarkomI see.
18:57.38MonetIt was the division in Medieval Europe that gave rise to the age of castles, crossbows and siege engines.
18:58.03MonetThe smallest crossbow Rome had was the ballista.
18:59.14SovnarkomYea.
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18:59.30SovnarkomI guess I just want some very simple, easy-to-understand fluff for the Horgubon.
18:59.38SovnarkomAnd why they are the way they are.
18:59.40MonetAnd the age of science of the 15th-17 centuries were inspired by a romantic vision of Rome and Greece.
18:59.47Hachiman_Pretty good section that was, Aible is rather entertaining I will say
19:02.20MonetSovnarkom: Simple is understandable
19:02.36SovnarkomOh, yea.
19:02.44MonetBut a Species of Hats has its drawbacks.
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19:07.42Xhoasdfg
19:35.08DrodoEmpirewat
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19:36.53dino82_the second in command of Zillum since the SCW: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:LizamalignanLarge.png
19:37.44dino82_and the hybrid, a genetic creature creature created by using the genes of Ramashe and Apollo: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ap%27She
19:38.33OluapPlayerNow Apollo and Ramashe just have to have kids the old fashioned way
19:38.59dino82_:D
19:39.23DrodoEmpireohdere
19:41.21Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Fleur_Inviere#Biography - Furthermore, this is Fleur Inviere, who was President of the URC prior to Apollo
19:42.07Xhoold skool
19:45.35CyrannianBesties with the Xhodocto back in the day because fiction was weird back then
19:46.57OluapPlayerInviere
19:47.02OluapPlayerWsa she related to Gianne?
19:48.11CyrannianProbably not, I imagine "Inviá" is an evolution of the surname "Inviere", since Gianne's homeworld was initially colonised by Libertus from the homeworld
19:51.08dino82_bye all
19:51.10dino82_till next time
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20:00.34dromWell.
20:00.49dromTomorrow is my very first day on my first serious job
20:00.53drom(as an intern)
20:02.11dromSo it is going to be exciting.
20:02.13dromSee ya
20:22.26Cyrannianhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/01/Capricaer%C3%B3nWildlife05.png/revision/latest?cb=20150705202156 - Under da sea
20:22.56Hachi_AwayMan, I think it is awesome that it can swim in rain
20:23.50OluapPlayinglook at my cheeky breeky attitude
20:23.55OluapPlaying~slap Hachi_Away
20:23.55infobotACTION slaps Hachi_Away, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:24.16Hachi_AwayCHEEKI BREEKI V DAMKE
20:24.49XhoAH NU
20:34.58Tek0516Hello
20:36.29DrodoEmpirefacking finally I think I got this whole modding thing down-pat
20:36.42MonetNice
20:37.03DrodoEmpireOne more check to see if the Drodo are where I want them and I'll get started on other stuff. Who wants to be the first nation done on my newly-revived (again-again) sporewiki EUIV mod?
20:38.02MonetI'd ask if you could do the DI next but I get the feeling they might b ebetter left for later.
20:41.12DrodoEmpireWell... I have a few things in mind for the Draconis (*lots* of unique events I still need practice coding, for example)
20:41.17DrodoEmpireSo maybe so
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20:50.51XhoOh god why the hell did I do that
20:50.53XhoWhy the hell
20:53.00MonetWhat now
20:53.17Hachi_AwayWhat did you do?
20:54.31XhoWell let's just say I told some person how I felt about them
20:54.36XhoReally the stupidest thing I've done
20:54.41XhoSmashing monitors was a smarter idea
20:55.04OluapPlayingYou can only be incredibly rude over the internet when people can't see or get you
20:56.03XhoNot how I hate them
20:56.25XhoYes people, Xho is capable of emotions other than hatred
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20:56.49XhoAnd now I gotta go to sleep because I have no clue what I'm gonna do now
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20:58.09TekDroidDamn. I won't have my laptop for two weeks.
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21:00.24DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:202385 - SW fictions for EUIV is reopened. Please put your requests below
21:00.26DrodoEmpireHi
21:01.02DrodoEmpire*Requests/Questions/Proof this isn't some elaborate scam, whatever you need.
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21:08.18OluapPlayingCyrannian: https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11222953_713731708778029_4852023261966535985_n.png?oh=1b431c82568e5ea95a0d639f0f6623b3&oe=561CDADC
21:09.29Cyrannianolol
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22:26.18TekDroidOdere. It seems Greece voted no in the referendum. O.o
22:27.49DrodoEmpireTekDroid: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/424/057/b6c.jpg
22:28.01TekDroidO.o
22:28.29TekDroidBut yeah, Greece has just voted to collapse itself. :/
22:29.46MonetI saw pictures of Tsipras and Varufakis on twitter publicly voting at polling stations.
22:30.05SovnarkomDamn.
22:30.21SovnarkomIt's going to be the 40s for Greece all over again.
22:30.24SovnarkomWell, late 40s.
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22:32.42SovnarkomOther than the referendum, I'm actually really surprised that Greece has a strong Communist movement there.
22:32.51SovnarkomI didn't even expect them to have one, in fact.
22:46.10MonetGreece was part of the Warsaw Pact but nto part of the Soviet Socialist Republics proper.
22:46.55Monet"Voters were asked: 'whether to accept the outline of the agreement submitted by the European Union, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund at the Eurogroup of 25/06/15'." - Exerpt from the Guardian
22:47.08MonetIs it me or does the question appear a tiny bit confusing?
22:48.54MonetOr am I reading it wrong?
22:50.13DrodoEmpireMaybe a little
22:54.11MonetAlthough I don't know if this will give Tsipras the clotu he wants at the diplomatic tables
22:54.15Monetclout*
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23:08.26TechnobliteratorI can't even remember which one was Yes and which was No
23:08.31Technobliteratoreven though I know what the poll was about
23:08.58AdmiralPandayes = stay, no = leave
23:09.24Technobliteratoroh, then they've left
23:09.46AdmiralPandathen they're dumb
23:12.48MonetWell they're planning to leave
23:13.34MonetGreece wants to use this referendum to draw up a new deal for the country but he has promised to end the spending cuts the Cutry has tried (emphasis on tried) to implement.
23:13.38Monetcoutnry*
23:15.21Monet<PROTECTED>
23:16.10MonetAnd o ntop of that, it looks like we could be seeing the country dropping the Euro and restarting the use of an independant currency.
23:16.54MonetSo for a while everyone's going ot be using euros, pounds and dollars until the restored Drachma is actually worth something.
23:18.46MonetSo I agree with Panda. The Greek people have pulled a dumb out of protest. Although I'm starting to wonder if part of the reason is that a "yes" vote would have ben followed with a reelection.
23:18.54Monetwith  new election season, rather
23:19.26Technobliteratorthey may leave, but may end up wrecking themselves even more
23:20.21MonetI also doubt its creditors are going to simply forget the country still owes 1.6bln Euros.
23:20.35MonetJust because Greece no longer uses the Euro
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23:39.21AdmiralPandaEurope still holds debt with America and they never used the euro XD
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23:39.41Wormy_I had a boo boo
23:40.24Wormy_Went to this stand up comedy thing at a pub.  Got bursting for the toilet to the poitnt of throbbing pain
23:40.40MonetAdmiralPanda: Yeah but government bonds pay differently to bailout loans.
23:40.52Wormy_Didn't dare get off my seat as the comedian was rapping random things from the audience
23:41.30Wormy_After he finished rapping, during the applause I tried to sneak off to the toilet, but I accidently kicked a glass and smashed it
23:41.33MonetDebt from Government bonds doesn't lead to bankers banging at your door.
23:41.44AdmiralPandaTrue, just agreeing with your point that a change of currency doesn't negate debt.
23:41.47Wormy_Yeah, I got piss taken out of me
23:42.12MonetAdmiralPanda: Oh yeah, definitely.
23:42.48MonetDon't forget the money provided by the Marshall Plan
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23:49.11MonetHuh...just did some looking up on said Marshall Plan
23:50.26MonetDidn't realise it contributed to the EEC.
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