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10:17.37 | Hachiman | Hai |
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10:38.27 | Monet | hi |
10:45.51 | Hachiman | Hai |
10:52.48 | Monet | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436070488674397531/E68BB670F14747C5163E78D7EA04019E5DB595E4/ never set up a taxi company in the sticks. |
10:54.51 | Monet | PC Gamer also recently published screnshots from the upcoming ANno 2205 http://ec0c5a7f741a6f3bff65-dd07187202f57fa404a8f047da2bcff5.r85.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/Ycc-k8LYTl2b.jpg http://ec0c5a7f741a6f3bff65-dd07187202f57fa404a8f047da2bcff5.r85.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/ayFu-9KeQqOP.jpg |
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10:55.42 | Hachiman | It looks pretty gorgeous |
10:56.30 | Monet | It does. |
10:58.18 | Monet | According to the article they're planning ot implement a broader metagame where cities you build can trade resources with each other. |
10:59.18 | Monet | Something that I've always fanciedi n an Anno game |
11:00.54 | Monet | PC Gamer has also confirmed that yes, ew can build moon cities |
11:01.00 | Monet | that yes* |
11:01.08 | Monet | yes we can build moon cities* |
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11:02.40 | Monet | hi |
11:04.35 | Monet | Just heard on the news that Julian Assange has been refused Asylum in France. That's a name I haven't heard in headlines for a while. |
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11:08.30 | Hachiman | Julian Assange? |
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11:09.09 | Monet | Founder of Wikileaks. |
11:09.37 | Monet | Convenient how I DCd just then. |
11:12.11 | Hachiman | hur |
11:14.20 | Monet | I'd say MI5 is on to me but after it was revealed that Snowdon's leaked data containing information on curent counterterrorist operations and terrorist agents being tracked the UK and US, I'm dubious about whether Wikileaks was a good idea |
11:19.57 | Monet | Basically while he did raise the surveillence concerns, the information on Wikileaks also created a serious vunerability in state security. |
11:20.27 | Hachiman | Aye, which can be accessed by literally anyone |
11:20.33 | Monet | GCHQ had to pull agents form the field after dossiers detailing the agents' activities appeared on Wikileaks. |
11:22.14 | Monet | Agents who were, until they were pulled out, monitoring known agents of the Taliban. |
11:23.33 | Hachiman | Aye |
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11:25.56 | Wormy_ | hi |
11:26.06 | Monet | Hi |
11:26.15 | Monet | International espionage is a very sensetive thing |
11:28.17 | Monet | Its orders of magnitude more perilous than hiding a guilty activity from your parents. |
11:29.29 | Hachiman | Wormy_: What is the current state of the Neanderthals as of 2808? |
11:30.21 | Monet | Skyfall was on the TV some time ago and I think in a way, for British or American Intelligence its aworst fear scenario. |
11:30.48 | Wormy_ | Either they retreated, or became members of the Terran Republic |
11:31.43 | Monet | I'm curious. What of Earth? |
11:33.11 | Monet | Actually nvm, still slightly drowsy |
11:33.33 | Hachiman | Actually I dunno the state of Earth either hur |
11:33.39 | Hachiman | As far as I recall, it is still a snowball |
11:35.04 | Wormy_ | Earth is open to human colonisation again. With the mysterious threat subsided. But it was already undergoing an ice age, and the Neanderthals and TDP tipped it to the extreme |
11:35.46 | Wormy_ | TDP may have done it on purpose to spite the fact the Neanderthals didn't build a huge global city |
11:37.11 | Monet | I wonder how long such a project could take for a lot of powers |
11:37.28 | Monet | A city covering an entire planet is a lot of metal. |
11:37.53 | Hachiman | Could be easily done with self-replicating materials |
11:38.13 | Wormy_ | I don't think its very possible. All the waste heat from bodies alone would need dumping somewhere. But where, hyperspace? |
11:38.34 | Wormy_ | Even systems used to cool the planet will in the long run, heat it up |
11:39.23 | Monet | Even if heating, onstruction and materials are solved, there's the matter of running costs. |
11:39.44 | Wormy_ | Some terrain on Earth simply won't support Coruscant style buildings |
11:40.40 | Monet | One possible advantage is that as we progress with geoengineering, foundations could get cheaper |
11:40.52 | Hachiman | Monet: http://orig07.deviantart.net/fd46/f/2014/165/4/0/the_secret_history_of_vandal_savage_by_nick_perks-d7mbb8c.jpg |
11:41.39 | Monet | I've played enough city builders to know that building skyscrapers for the sake of skyscrapers is a huge money sink |
11:41.48 | Monet | The land needs to be used ot make it worthwhile |
11:43.11 | Wormy_ | Most of the DCP lives in megastructures |
11:43.36 | Wormy_ | I have come to realise other than homeworlds and few old colonies, planets are mostly worthless |
11:44.49 | Wormy_ | For a civilisation that can cheaply mine asteroids and replicate their own materials. |
11:45.12 | Hachiman | Earth was probably not much of a loss for the human nations |
11:45.25 | Hachiman | If anything it was more of a morale blow than a strategic one |
11:45.40 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
11:45.42 | Monet | Most likely |
11:46.15 | Wormy_ | Most of the humankind in the 29th century were never even born near Earth |
11:46.38 | Monet | You have nations like France who effectively rebuilt their capital city to the last brick on another planet |
11:49.26 | Monet | It might be the DI still colonise planets because they understand that eventually another intelligence will arise and find the ruins. |
11:51.25 | Monet | I've writen on the tech page that the DI has a thorough knowledge of memetics. All these planets (which they've extensively terraformed) could have been scuplted in case the Imperium moves on and new life emerges, who find the ruins. |
11:52.11 | Hachiman | I was thinking that my transhuman species - the large, muscular brutish humans - could have been, and still be, a significant power to rival some of the modern human nations and those that are currently part of the latter are rebels, immigrants, or the descendants of either |
11:53.25 | Wormy_ | The Roburans? |
11:53.37 | Monet | bbl |
11:53.39 | Hachiman | Yeah |
11:53.45 | Hachiman | I still need a revised name for them though |
11:53.53 | Wormy_ | They could be part of the Kindred Coalition if you like |
11:54.57 | Monet | Actually I can stay for a little |
11:55.00 | Hachiman | Do the powers of the Kindred Coalition retain their sovereignty? |
11:55.12 | Wormy_ | Yep |
11:55.23 | Hachiman | Hm fair enough |
11:55.35 | Wormy_ | Its more like a federation of sorts |
11:55.50 | Monet | Wormy_: Are there any members of the Kindred Coalition still opposed to the DCP's campaign? |
11:56.02 | Wormy_ | There may |
11:56.25 | Hachiman | Why was the DCP fighting again? |
11:56.40 | Wormy_ | Probably, yes. Some might be feeling they didn't power they were promised |
11:57.12 | Wormy_ | The DCP doesn't like what it percieves as colonial aggression by the DI and France |
11:57.48 | Monet | Although I'd say both sides are guilty of doing things the other doesn't like. |
11:57.51 | Wormy_ | Though it has become more aggressive in recent years |
11:58.23 | Wormy_ | Both sides are bad as each imo. Though its possible both have been manipulated into war somewhat |
11:58.48 | Monet | The DCP may not like the colonial aggression, but the DCP responded with acts like the Quadrantia Trade Zone crisis. |
11:59.15 | Monet | WHich iirc involved effectively destroying any French military or civillian vessel that rtavelled down the route. |
11:59.39 | Wormy_ | Well France went into the Quadrants and demanded a toll zone where the DCP travelled to the Quadrants for decades. |
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12:00.54 | Monet | I still wonder if stating "a third party manipulated them into fighting" is a good idea. |
12:01.24 | Wormy_ | We don't have to reveal what that third party is |
12:01.44 | Wormy_ | I prefer it because look at all the strange coincidences |
12:03.05 | Monet | It could be down to a breakdown of trust. You did afterall say that the DCP has a history of bullying or harassing empireson its fringe into submission |
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12:03.23 | Wormy_ | Or, maybe the DCP imagines a third party. A bit like how the US imagined massive terror cells inside in mountains of Afganistan |
12:03.56 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
12:04.05 | Wormy_ | And has become more policing |
12:04.05 | Monet | Hi |
12:04.25 | Monet | I'm all for conspiracy nuts in-universe accusing current events of being the result of someone pullign strings. |
12:04.57 | Monet | I've alays liked seeing the odd misconception in fiction. |
12:05.23 | Monet | Well, almost. |
12:06.37 | Monet | Feels boring when everyone has the right idea about another individual or place. |
12:07.28 | AdmiralPanda | like everyone assuming the Fordanta are all bloodthirsty monstrosities |
12:07.39 | AdmiralPanda | they're only like that during work hours :P |
12:08.45 | Monet | Exactly. |
12:10.31 | Monet | And like how not every officer in the military has the temperement of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman 24/7. |
12:11.04 | Hachiman | It is kind of his job to be like that though |
12:11.13 | Hachiman | Drill officers are paid to act like that during hours |
12:11.14 | Monet | On the job, yes. |
12:11.34 | Monet | But when not on the job I'm sure he's less shouty. |
12:12.19 | Monet | That sort of shoutyness is common among all soldiers because when in the field you have to communicate over 100+Db of noise. |
12:12.42 | Wormy_ | The DCP command is immortal, but has become senile |
12:13.13 | Monet | WOrmy_: I'm all for DCP command thinking there's an enemy manipulator out there. |
12:13.25 | Monet | When the truth is much more ambiguous |
12:14.04 | Monet | Theoretically the measures and actions they take to combat the percieved manipulators alone is enough to strai ntensions. |
12:14.36 | Wormy_ | I'll leave it as an open question for years to come |
12:14.38 | Monet | And in regards to France's expansionism, France is a rising power that perhaps the DCP considers a threat to the status qup? |
12:14.58 | Wormy_ | Possibly |
12:15.07 | Monet | It could feel threatened by France's rising star status. |
12:17.11 | Monet | Maybe given the pragmatic natures of both the DI and the DCP and given the Imperial nobility's love of machiavellian politics within itself, I'm fine with even prior DI-DCP relations being not all sunshine and rainbows. |
12:19.28 | Monet | Where on the surface they're good friends who worked closely, but under the table both could be suspicious, maybe even paranoid, the other will make a move they don't like. |
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12:20.49 | Monet | Even before the war each of the two powers sided with rival human supranational groups. |
12:21.28 | Wormy_ | indeed |
12:22.00 | Wormy_ | Human powers in the future will remember they were pawns between the DI and DCP |
12:22.45 | Monet | They each wanted their chosen human ally to be humanity's unifier. I find it hard to believe that pragmatically-inclined groups like the DI and DCP would simply shrug that off as no big deal. |
12:23.39 | Monet | Its like supporting Manchester United while your best friend supports Liverpool. |
12:25.27 | MonetAway | Actually wait better comparison |
12:25.50 | MonetAway | Supporting Man. United while your best friend supports Man. CIty. |
12:31.35 | AdmiralPanda | was doing a raid, but on the subject of soldiers: being able to shout really loudly is something they actually train you to do in the army, but they also teach you to deliver such verbal abuse in a non-emotional way |
12:32.07 | AdmiralPanda | Full Metal Jacket exaggerates things a lot, like sure you get your flaws mercilessly pointed out, but in a clinical way rather than emotive |
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12:38.37 | MonetAway | I saw one phrase that summed up military life as "Long days of repetetive tedium occasionally interspersed with a few minutes of pants-shitting terror" |
12:39.34 | MonetAway | I guess swearing the military is a coping mechanism. |
12:45.31 | MonetAway | Its like EVE really: You sign up for the action, end up spending long hours doing tasks they only need half a brain for, occasionally exited when someoen tries to kill them. But when you talk about it with friends, it sounds like you got the all-action experience you initially signed up for. |
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12:48.19 | Hachiman | Bollocks |
12:48.39 | MonetAway | Penis |
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12:49.14 | Hachiman | Speaking of penis |
12:49.15 | Hachiman | Hai |
12:50.29 | OluapPlayer | Excuse me |
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13:07.39 | External | Hello |
13:10.40 | External | I started reading Loron events a few days ago, and it takes up my time. I also can't stop thinking |
13:10.50 | External | Loron thoughts |
13:12.59 | Charles_Murray | drom : Italy is planning on taking Austria, just a heads-up |
13:30.44 | Monet | Hi |
13:30.51 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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13:41.27 | Wormy_away | Hachiman, drom: Check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5gHFJyMQ6o |
13:59.32 | Wormy_away | test |
14:00.51 | Wormy_away | This too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IApUK_eu3Ek |
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14:13.19 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
14:14.15 | Cyrannian | Hai |
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14:21.15 | Cyrannian | Featured articles this month are: Drodo Empire, Thanatyrannus, Final Duel and Khuenaten. Updating the main page now. |
14:23.23 | Vincent20100 | Dammit, I didn't got to vote -.- |
14:25.01 | Wormy_away | There was good choices this month |
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14:32.53 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
14:33.08 | Technobliterator | No First Ottzello Galactic War as featured fiction |
14:33.10 | Technobliterator | 0/10 |
14:33.11 | Technobliterator | hi drodo |
14:36.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hai |
14:37.03 | Wormy_away | The Fountain soundtrack is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x8MP3L_nvA&index=9 |
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14:39.06 | Wormy_ | ~seen Wormy_away |
14:39.09 | infobot | wormy_away is currently on #cyrannus #sporewiki. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 2m 6s, last said: 'The Fountain soundtrack is so good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x8MP3L_nvA&index=9'. |
14:40.16 | Wormy_ | Weird film too. Its about three characters named Thomas, one a Conquistador, one a brain surgeon, and one a space traveller searching for the elixir if youth |
14:40.24 | Wormy_ | of |
15:08.10 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Corruptus_Demon generic page about generic Corruptus info |
15:10.29 | Vincent20100 | 20 minutes and my food problems are gone |
15:10.32 | Vincent20100 | oups |
15:11.10 | Cyrannian | Interesting, would the Libertus encountered during Brezank Awakens be among them? |
15:11.46 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
15:12.08 | OluapPlayer | I should add them to the list |
15:24.04 | DrodoEmpire | test |
15:32.21 | drom | Today has been awfully hot |
15:32.36 | drom | 25 degrees indoors and 29 degrees outdoors |
15:32.53 | DrodoEmpire | Ouch |
15:35.08 | drom | They sent out a yellow warning two days ago that there will be very hot peak numbers fpr yesterday, today and the weekend. |
15:35.32 | drom | We are expecting more hot days and hotter days to follow. |
15:36.07 | drom | They said that the peak for this week will be 30, and probably higher for next week if we don't get rain weather. |
15:36.27 | drom | brb taking a shower to cool off and soak that sweat off |
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15:39.30 | Jepardi | Hi |
15:39.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
15:41.32 | drom | back |
15:42.18 | drom | Signatures, ngh |
15:43.22 | Technobliterator | http://www.hexjam.com/uk/living/13-of-the-most-hilariously-stupid-posts-on-britain-first |
15:45.55 | drom | british extreme nationalism is surely lovely |
15:47.21 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, dear... Britain First. |
15:48.31 | DrodoEmpire | I take issue with the term "Islamophobia" for different reasons. :p |
15:51.38 | DrodoEmpire | Plenty to criticize about *all* religions, and Islam is not a race, or a group of people. Its about as silly to say "I hate all muslims!" as to say "I hate all Christians!" because they're both *extremely* diverse groups, of which their faith is only a component. :p |
15:51.45 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway rant over |
15:54.29 | Technobliterator | I agree 100% |
15:54.36 | Technobliterator | However, they are good comedic material, if nothing else |
15:56.09 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
15:56.50 | Technobliterator | "We r the only country that fights against extremely muslims" |
15:57.16 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
15:57.18 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/17/Mari%27verao.png/revision/latest?cb=20150703155611 remade skellington |
15:57.19 | Monet | Seriously |
15:57.35 | DrodoEmpire | The United States would like a word |
15:58.03 | Technobliterator | People criticize the Republicans all the time, but I think we have it worse |
15:58.26 | Technobliterator | meh, fuck it, I'll just go through 100 files a day |
15:59.23 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Zillum - Big updates |
15:59.51 | Monet | Conservatives agree climate change is a problem, Republicans see it as a lie. |
16:00.06 | OluapPlayer | zillie |
16:01.40 | Technobliterator | are those tentacle thingies on Mari meant to look like exoskeleton limbs or cyborg parts :o |
16:01.49 | OluapPlayer | Cyborg parts |
16:01.59 | Technobliterator | ah |
16:02.01 | Technobliterator | they look sweet |
16:02.23 | Cyrannian | Indeed, it looks really cool |
16:04.39 | OluapPlayer | It's an undead cyborg, so it has cybernetic tentacles |
16:09.43 | drom | Hand signatures are so ngh to accomplish |
16:09.53 | drom | Every signature I make looks like a child's drawing |
16:12.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
16:12.46 | DrodoEmpire | I'm really shy about my handwriting because its absolutely horrible. :L |
16:13.16 | drom | Well the mindset is a common thing among us |
16:13.40 | drom | I once told my friend that I really liked his handstyle, but he commented "naaah man, it is terrible and I know it!" |
16:14.02 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
16:14.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah perhaps so |
16:14.24 | drom | The reason behind so is because I'm about to sign my debit card in order to make it vaild for use |
16:16.13 | drom | But the little signature box is so small that I have to pratice writing my hand signature in miniature size, but I never did a proper hand signature than writing it in my common handstyle |
16:22.44 | drom | And it is no where near like these styles http://biometrics.sabanciuniv.edu/img/samplesigs_bs.jpg |
16:27.53 | drom | Two papers later, I'm satisified with the result |
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16:42.17 | OluapPlayer | spoon |
16:42.22 | Xho | fork |
16:56.21 | Monet | hi |
17:20.28 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CFo21reWAAIFSbx.mp4 woof |
17:20.39 | Xho | 2cute |
17:21.05 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/35/GreatLeviathanDemon.png/revision/latest?cb=20150703172024 In return, have a scary |
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17:21.29 | OluapPlayer | Demon - who needs scissors with a hand like thos |
17:21.32 | OluapPlayer | this even |
17:22.10 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino |
17:22.25 | Xho | Originally it was gonna have legs |
17:22.33 | Xho | Then I overcomplicated the top half |
17:22.50 | Xho | Dark Injection has a limit to creature complexity before the game crashes |
17:23.15 | OluapPlayer | Demon - the game cant handle this |
17:23.25 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Corruptus_Demon I did a thing |
17:23.26 | Xho | It's quite a huge model as well I think |
17:23.36 | Xho | Probably larger than Kamaris' model |
17:23.47 | Xho | deemuns |
17:26.15 | Monet | Xho: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/436070724977160105/E119ED5547D5D5E17BDC429290F07CAB0AFD04D0/ |
17:26.37 | dino82_ | hello all! |
17:26.43 | Monet | Hello |
17:26.50 | Xho | Monet: wat dat |
17:27.00 | Monet | My GTA character |
17:27.13 | Xho | Oh come on really, I mean I can't even get my GTA V to work |
17:27.19 | dino82_ | nice page Oluap! |
17:27.43 | Monet | Xho: Did you verify the game cache via Steam? |
17:27.51 | Monet | I had a launching problem at first then I ran that |
17:27.53 | Cyrannian | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11138110_10155597239660195_6716825252663287521_n.jpg?oh=e43ca940cac588e634daaedeee92c0fc&oe=56292043 |
17:28.04 | Xho | Right well I'll try it again |
17:29.31 | dino82_ | @cyrannian: poor child :P |
17:29.37 | Xho | I would edit the Samut'angar page...but screw it |
17:29.42 | Xho | I have to remake like 20 demons |
17:29.54 | OluapPlayer | it eint gonna do itself |
17:30.31 | Xho | I've redone the...uh |
17:30.34 | Xho | Sivir |
17:31.10 | Xho | Looking at it, screenshots from Spore don't respond to 4K resoultion |
17:31.14 | Xho | resolution* |
17:31.22 | Xho | Might as well run it at 1920 x 1080 again |
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17:48.22 | Wormy_ | hi |
17:49.08 | Monet | Hi |
17:49.35 | dino82_ | hellowz |
17:51.32 | Cyrannian | Hai |
17:53.35 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
17:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | test |
17:58.40 | Hachiman | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/3D8VV1F.png?1 Behold, the revised Roburan; the Xantaballite, aka High Men |
17:58.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
17:59.19 | DrodoEmpire | Methinks I'm going to finally finish up the Drodo portion of my EUIV mod. :p |
18:05.36 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Really cool model. I wouldn't want to insult one |
18:06.29 | Charles_Murray | So I overcompensated for not getting back to External in three weeks: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Plazith_League |
18:07.19 | Xho | Charles_Murray: I have to admit that's a cool layout |
18:07.50 | Charles_Murray | Thanks ^.^ |
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18:29.44 | DrodoEmpire | Hello! |
18:29.49 | Sovnarkom | Hello. |
18:29.49 | DrodoEmpire | Welcome to the IRC! :D |
18:29.53 | Cyrannian | Hey there |
18:29.54 | Sovnarkom | Yep! :P |
18:30.31 | Sovnarkom | Lot of people in chat, didn't expect that. lol |
18:30.33 | Monet | Hello |
18:30.48 | Sovnarkom | Hello. |
18:30.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, its pretty active this time of day |
18:31.05 | Sovnarkom | That's cool. |
18:31.41 | Sovnarkom | Actually, along time ago, I would've joined up on the Fiction Universe thing, but I thought it was inactive and dead. |
18:31.45 | Sovnarkom | Looks like I was wrong. |
18:31.48 | Sovnarkom | :p |
18:31.55 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
18:32.13 | DrodoEmpire | Nah its still got some energy in it. XD |
18:32.31 | Sovnarkom | Yea, I see. |
18:32.49 | Sovnarkom | I got some names for this fictional empire I am making, wish to comment? |
18:33.10 | Cyrannian | Indeed, go ahead |
18:33.32 | Sovnarkom | Tharsis Federacy, Vothnak Empire, and the Vespidae Dominate |
18:33.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
18:34.05 | DrodoEmpire | They all sound pretty good |
18:34.12 | Hachiman | I like Tharsis Federacy myself |
18:34.17 | Cyrannian | Ooh I like the Vespidae Dominate |
18:34.18 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
18:34.20 | Sovnarkom | The first one would be a confederation of different alien species, the next one would be a very, well, not so nice empire, and the last one, well, think of Giant Asian Hornets, with laser guns... XP |
18:34.23 | Hachiman | And Vespidae Dominate |
18:34.37 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the Federacy is certainly one of the more unique ones I've heard |
18:34.37 | Sovnarkom | The Vespidae Dominate are essentially anthropomorphic wasps with laser guns. |
18:34.41 | Sovnarkom | Who conquer the galaxy. |
18:34.44 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
18:35.17 | Hachiman | I am guessing their primary weakness would be overheating from the body heat of smaller entities swarming them :p |
18:35.22 | Sovnarkom | XP |
18:35.28 | Sovnarkom | I suppose so. |
18:35.29 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
18:35.51 | Monet | Heh |
18:35.53 | Cyrannian | You could always make all three, since they sound like very distinct factions. |
18:35.58 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
18:36.54 | Sovnarkom | But I am setting my decision on just one faction, since it is easier to work with. |
18:37.01 | Sovnarkom | And I was thinking the Tharsis Federacy. |
18:37.04 | Sovnarkom | Cause it just sounds cool. |
18:37.05 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
18:37.22 | Hachiman | Yeah, Tharsis Federacy sounds like a good bench to work with |
18:37.28 | Cyrannian | Indeed |
18:37.51 | Hachiman | Since it is a confederation of multiple species, you can incorporate multiple ideas to work alongside one another better |
18:37.57 | Sovnarkom | Yep! |
18:38.07 | Sovnarkom | :P |
18:40.12 | Sovnarkom | The system of government is based like the Iroquois Confederacy. |
18:40.53 | DrodoEmpire | Oh cool |
18:41.08 | Sovnarkom | Basically, each planet has its own customs and domestic policy, whilst military, economic, and foreign policy is decided upon elected governors of each said planet. |
18:41.23 | DrodoEmpire | Okay, interesting |
18:41.37 | DrodoEmpire | So its somewhat decentralized in that way |
18:41.40 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
18:41.45 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
18:42.21 | Sovnarkom | I decided that its going to be a relatively small empire, I don't want it to be so, well, grand and overpowered, if you know what I mean. XP |
18:43.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, makes sense |
18:44.06 | Sovnarkom | You're empire is pretty neat. |
18:44.08 | Sovnarkom | I have to admit. |
18:44.53 | DrodoEmpire | Mine? |
18:44.57 | DrodoEmpire | Aww, thanks. :3 |
18:45.22 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
18:45.32 | Sovnarkom | :p |
18:45.47 | Sovnarkom | I do like Cyrannian's as well. |
18:46.05 | Sovnarkom | Especially the New Cyrannian Republic, if I said the faction name right. |
18:46.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Cy's is very well-developed |
18:46.18 | DrodoEmpire | Been around for a *loong* time |
18:46.31 | Sovnarkom | And its still expanding, which is great. |
18:46.33 | Sovnarkom | :D |
18:46.43 | Cyrannian | Thanks Sovnarkom! Glad to hear you like them! |
18:46.51 | Sovnarkom | Yep! |
18:48.05 | Cyrannian | Definitely looking forward to seeing what you come up with! The Federacy sounds interesting already |
18:48.12 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
18:48.25 | Sovnarkom | Hopefully I can flesh it out and make it look great. |
18:49.02 | Sovnarkom | As a matter of fact, I re-bought Spore for Steam to play it of course, but for this too. |
18:49.19 | Sovnarkom | Because Fiction Universe is just a cool concept that I should participate in. |
18:49.48 | Sovnarkom | If you are wondering about the re-bought thing, I got Spore in the disc version, but it had a virus, so we had to throw it out. |
18:49.57 | Sovnarkom | I had so much fun and for years I never played. ;-; |
18:50.15 | Cyrannian | It is definitely an ever expanding universe with something for everyone |
18:50.35 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
18:50.46 | Sovnarkom | I have a question for you Cyrannian. |
18:50.52 | Cyrannian | Fire away |
18:50.57 | Sovnarkom | And its about the different symbols for your empires. |
18:51.00 | Sovnarkom | How do you make them? |
18:51.11 | Sovnarkom | Cause I tried to make one and it turned, well, it wasn't very good. |
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18:53.45 | Cyrannian | I primarily use this: http://www.getpaint.net/index.html and use it to create flags and emblems, adding effects where necessary |
18:53.59 | Sovnarkom | Ah I see. |
18:54.11 | Sovnarkom | I just have Paint, not Paint.net. |
18:54.13 | Sovnarkom | So I have troubles. |
18:54.14 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
18:54.44 | Cyrannian | Paint.NET has a lot of extra features and you can download more online made by other users |
18:55.02 | Sovnarkom | Yea :P |
18:55.50 | Sovnarkom | I'm wondering if any major events will happen in Fiction Universe. |
18:55.59 | DrodoEmpire | Plenty are already |
18:56.04 | Sovnarkom | Really? |
18:56.05 | Sovnarkom | Great! |
18:56.08 | Sovnarkom | :) |
18:56.48 | DrodoEmpire | Xonexi schism, is a war currently going on, and really it isn't all that hard to stir up some conflict on your own |
18:57.05 | Sovnarkom | Lol, yea. |
18:57.19 | Sovnarkom | I was planning to make the Tharsis Federacy based more on cooperation and trade with others than of war. |
18:57.25 | Sovnarkom | But if war comes, it will be prepared. |
18:57.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
18:59.12 | Sovnarkom | It's going to have a professional, volunteer fighting force! |
18:59.25 | Sovnarkom | Dedicated to protecting the planetary systems of the Tharsis Federacy! |
18:59.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
19:00.00 | DrodoEmpire | Considering its a volunteer army, I suppose it may be small but well-trained? |
19:00.05 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
19:00.37 | Sovnarkom | I'm trying to find your empire, but it is hard. |
19:00.54 | Sovnarkom | I saw it before, but forgot the name! xD |
19:01.20 | drom | Drodo Empire |
19:01.37 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:01.37 | Sovnarkom | Oh... |
19:01.39 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo Empire |
19:01.41 | Sovnarkom | Oh even your username said it. |
19:01.42 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
19:01.45 | Sovnarkom | Pardon my idiocy. |
19:01.46 | DrodoEmpire | Nah its fine |
19:01.46 | Sovnarkom | Sorry. |
19:01.51 | drom | It happens |
19:01.51 | DrodoEmpire | No no! Its fine |
19:01.54 | Sovnarkom | XP |
19:03.33 | drom | Charles_Murray Monet: I'm excited about the XS' response to NS' engagement against the DCP once I've finished writing the story and when Wormy_ has finished reviewing it. |
19:03.39 | drom | XA* |
19:04.19 | Sovnarkom | DCP? |
19:04.36 | Sovnarkom | Oh wait, isn't that the... |
19:04.46 | Sovnarkom | Crap, what was it? |
19:04.51 | Sovnarkom | Delphos something? |
19:04.52 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets by Wormulon |
19:04.56 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay! |
19:05.02 | Sovnarkom | That was what I was looking for. |
19:05.41 | Sovnarkom | I saw that there is alot of conflict with the Delpha Coalition of Planets by other empires. |
19:05.44 | Sovnarkom | Why is that the case? |
19:05.49 | Sovnarkom | Did they do something horrible? |
19:05.53 | DrodoEmpire | Xonexi Schism |
19:05.58 | drom | well long story |
19:06.07 | Sovnarkom | Oh... |
19:06.17 | DrodoEmpire | Basically the culmination of many years of tension between rival powers |
19:06.32 | drom | You better check this, Sovnarkom. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism |
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19:07.24 | Sovnarkom | Checking it out now. |
19:07.43 | Sovnarkom | Ah, now I see it. |
19:07.53 | OluapPlayer | They're jelly of the DCP's achievements |
19:08.04 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
19:08.09 | Sovnarkom | That is alot of empires angry at the DCP. |
19:08.10 | drom | shuddup you neutrality heretic |
19:08.12 | Sovnarkom | ._. |
19:08.48 | Sovnarkom | So angry, that even France is in it. |
19:08.51 | Sovnarkom | That says something... |
19:08.52 | Sovnarkom | lol |
19:09.13 | DrodoEmpire | Well France is quite a major power in the fictionverse now. :p |
19:09.30 | DrodoEmpire | Or, was. Its been weakened by this war, as have all of the powers really |
19:09.46 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
19:09.59 | Sovnarkom | I really like the roleplaying aspect of this universe. |
19:10.09 | Sovnarkom | And the friendly atmosphere in fact of the people who participate! |
19:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its pretty cool |
19:10.14 | drom | That's the point of this universe. |
19:10.55 | Wormy_ | Don't be fooled by these revolutionaries. The DCP is the one to side with. It will never surrender. lol. |
19:11.09 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
19:11.15 | drom | Good show |
19:11.17 | Sovnarkom | Oh god, is this some sort of bribery thing happening? |
19:11.18 | Sovnarkom | XP |
19:11.23 | drom | Yeah |
19:11.26 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mou%27Cyran_Accords - There's also this faction, which is neutral |
19:11.36 | Sovnarkom | Join me! No, join me! No no, join me! |
19:11.39 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
19:11.39 | drom | Just wait for Charles_Murray and Monet to try bribe you into their |
19:11.58 | Sovnarkom | I'll check that out Cyrannian. |
19:13.53 | OfficerJackal | Or hey, you can join my club, where it's full of half-complete fictions and nobody has ANY idea what is going on. :3 We have free cocaine, too. |
19:14.32 | OfficerJackal | Sovnarkom: itslonelyoverhereplz |
19:14.53 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
19:15.09 | Sovnarkom | This is actually quite frightening. |
19:15.11 | Sovnarkom | ._. |
19:15.12 | drom | There are also alternatives... like my makeshift club with my fiction being the only member, but we offer free weed and we gurantee surivial |
19:15.45 | OfficerJackal | COCAINE IS BETTER THEN WEED IT GET'S YOU PUMPED UP AND READY FOR ACTION. |
19:15.49 | Wormy_ | That's not cocaine. That's sherbet. |
19:15.50 | OfficerJackal | COME ON STEP IT UP! |
19:16.07 | drom | Wormy_: Milk Powder |
19:16.21 | Sovnarkom | Oh god... |
19:16.24 | Sovnarkom | It's happening! |
19:16.41 | Sovnarkom | Join me! No join me! No, no, we have free drugs, join me! Illuminati, so join me! |
19:16.44 | Sovnarkom | ._. |
19:16.48 | Xho | You can join my club |
19:16.53 | drom | OfficerJackal: Calm down before I let the supernovae missiles go after you |
19:16.55 | Xho | Lots and lots and lots of evil |
19:17.04 | drom | Xho: and cheese |
19:17.05 | DrodoEmpire | ebul |
19:17.10 | Xho | And cheese yes |
19:17.14 | Xho | But 99.9% evil |
19:17.22 | Wormy_ | You could join the Kraw galaxy. That is the best choice. |
19:17.29 | Hachiman | Nah, Milky Way |
19:17.32 | drom | But all the cheese belongs to Santrokah anyway |
19:17.41 | Hachiman | Milky is free and very versatile unlike Kraw which is pretty niche |
19:17.48 | Hachiman | And Kraw is very far from much activity |
19:17.56 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:18.01 | OfficerJackal | Yeah, join the Kraw galaxy, they have a very niche porn selection. |
19:18.04 | OfficerJackal | But no drugs. |
19:18.07 | OfficerJackal | Unfortunately. |
19:18.11 | Wormy_ | Asgord porn |
19:18.16 | drom | hur |
19:18.36 | drom | Andromeda is also free IIRC |
19:18.44 | Cyrannian | Lots of aggressive petting |
19:18.58 | Sovnarkom | That's alot of empires within the Mou'Cyran Accords. |
19:19.10 | Sovnarkom | Is it sort of like, the UN of the First Gigaquadrant? |
19:19.12 | drom | Cyrannus is a place full of lies |
19:19.18 | Sovnarkom | If that is a fair comparison. |
19:19.23 | OfficerJackal | No, Cyrannus has adderall. Cocaine is better. |
19:19.33 | Cyrannian | drom: excuse you bich |
19:19.42 | drom | Cyrannian: fite me |
19:19.59 | Cyrannian | Sovnarkom: I suppose it is similar to the UN in some ways, less ineffective of course |
19:20.21 | Sovnarkom | I have one question though... |
19:20.42 | drom | Cyrannian: Also a flock of sittin' ducks |
19:20.46 | Sovnarkom | Why does one of the empires within that alliance, have weed as their symbol? |
19:20.48 | drom | :^) |
19:20.51 | Sovnarkom | I'm not against it, just interesting. |
19:20.53 | Sovnarkom | Weedlings. |
19:20.54 | Sovnarkom | XP |
19:21.07 | Cyrannian | The Waptoria are very much in tune with nature |
19:21.20 | OfficerJackal | Sovnarkom: That would be the empire of Dank Memes and Kush. |
19:21.24 | Wormy_ | The Waptoria are sentient weed |
19:21.29 | OfficerJackal | orthewaptoriaifyouwanttocallthemthat. |
19:21.30 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
19:22.17 | Hachiman | Stop the meming business Jackal, it's not funny anymore |
19:22.49 | OfficerJackal | I'm not sure if you are joking or if you are serious. :/ |
19:23.12 | drom | OfficerJackal: Unfortunately he's serious on this kind of matter |
19:24.06 | drom | It is however funny to me, it depends on the context and extent though. |
19:24.49 | Hachiman | Randomly doing it when somebody is looking for genuine help is bothersome |
19:25.15 | drom | Sovnarkom: If you need any more help, feel free to ask us more! |
19:25.19 | OfficerJackal | Just trying to be fun here, don't need to get all serious here. I could easily say the same thing for your humor, but I don't. |
19:25.22 | Sovnarkom | Okay. |
19:26.05 | OfficerJackal | Although now that I think about it, I usually don't say much on here. :/ |
19:26.16 | Sovnarkom | So how do I participate in these sort of events? |
19:26.18 | Hachiman | Then say it if you have a problem but do not try to deliberately misguide a newer user when they are looking for assistance |
19:26.25 | Xho | Xhodocto pls |
19:26.34 | OluapPlayer | ~dropkick Xho |
19:26.34 | infobot | ACTION sends Xho flying like a yipping chihuahua |
19:26.37 | drom | Sovnarkom: Feel free to ask people |
19:27.06 | OfficerJackal | Hachiman: I'm obviously not being serious here, only fooling about, I don't think Sovnarkom would actually consider what I'm saying to be the truth about things around here. Like come on. |
19:27.08 | drom | We usually get in touch of coordinators and other people to dicuss about the idea. |
19:27.10 | Wormy_ | Sovarkom: Once you have a fiction and creature page, a good place to start is by messaging empires on their talk pages or the Universe Discussion Board |
19:27.21 | Wormy_ | Active empires |
19:27.26 | drom | Or what Wormy_ said. |
19:27.41 | Sovnarkom | Seems simple enough. |
19:27.42 | DrodoEmpire | OfficerJackal Hachiman I'd recommend moving this to a different channel. |
19:27.51 | drom | ^ honk |
19:27.53 | Xho | OluapPlayer: xhodocto pls |
19:28.14 | OluapPlayer | get non-canon'd |
19:28.41 | Xho | u alredi got non-canon'd |
19:28.46 | Wormy_ | Generally its better to join other active collab fiction first, rather than make your own. Unless one iis lucky that their ideas bounce off another user. |
19:29.11 | Wormy_ | I mean stories in this case |
19:29.22 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nerazachi - New/old Trucinex character rescued from the annals of my old fiction |
19:29.36 | OluapPlayer | All thanks to me |
19:30.52 | OluapPlayer | Also his top quote foreshadows a future Borealis-related story |
19:31.28 | Xho | Kithworto - STOP WARRING WITH EACH OTHER STUPID MORTALS |
19:32.28 | Hachiman | Oh boy, PCA vs GEC |
19:32.29 | OluapPlayer | Xeron - ok how bout u go sit on anteddy's lap if u like him so much |
19:32.38 | Hachiman | This is gonna be exciting |
19:32.43 | Cyrannian | It's a super secret shhh war |
19:33.24 | Sovnarkom | PCA? |
19:33.26 | Sovnarkom | GEC? |
19:33.33 | Monet | Itsn ot very secret anymore. |
19:33.36 | Xho | Kithworto - go to shard bug boy |
19:33.43 | OluapPlayer | Polar Crystal Alliance and Galactic Empire of Cyrannus |
19:33.47 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
19:33.48 | drom | OluapPlayer Xho: Apparently, the new update has encouraged everyone to use the new Metal Gear Snake's diguise taunt |
19:33.59 | drom | Boxes, everywhere |
19:34.12 | OluapPlayer | It's like I'm at Facepunch |
19:34.19 | drom | hur |
19:34.32 | OluapPlayer | I don't really play TF2 anymore so I don't really carfe |
19:34.33 | OluapPlayer | care |
19:34.59 | drom | Alright |
19:35.31 | Sovnarkom | Since my empire, the Tharsis Federacy, is going to be rather small, how many planets should I acquire? |
19:35.38 | Sovnarkom | I was thinking like, 32. |
19:35.42 | Sovnarkom | Cause it just sounds nice. |
19:35.44 | Xho | I dunno whether Kithworto would approve of the war but then again it's his political duty to care |
19:35.45 | Sovnarkom | But I dunno really. |
19:35.49 | drom | That's really tiny, but that's up to you. |
19:35.57 | Hachiman | You want at least a couple of hundred systems |
19:36.07 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:36.07 | Sovnarkom | I see. |
19:36.10 | Xho | We do have a 20 million system limit |
19:36.14 | Hachiman | T4/T3 empire usually have around several hundred |
19:36.25 | OfficerJackal | Sovnarkom: Having an empire that small will severely limit your potential effect in the Sporewiki Fictionverse. I'd reccomend somewhere between 500 - 5,000 systems if you want a small empire. |
19:36.30 | Xho | Though there's perhaps only two fictions with around 20 million systems that I know of |
19:36.45 | Sovnarkom | Ah, I see. |
19:36.58 | Sovnarkom | I have a tendency sometimes, when making nations, to have them very underpowered. |
19:37.04 | Sovnarkom | When I didn't mean it to be. |
19:37.12 | Hachiman | Also, just because you are a new user writing new fiction, does not mean to the fiction itself chronologically has to be new |
19:37.29 | Sovnarkom | I see. |
19:37.29 | OfficerJackal | Yeah, it could have been around for thousands of years in it's own history. |
19:37.31 | Hachiman | It could have been spacefaring from like a couple of decades to around a thousand or so years |
19:37.33 | OluapPlayer | I'll spoil about the plot a bit for clarification sake |
19:37.36 | OluapPlayer | It's not a conventional war |
19:37.40 | Hachiman | Ooh? |
19:37.49 | drom | Xho: Dominion? |
19:37.54 | Xho | Angazhar - u talkin about a cold war there angazhar does not like cold wars |
19:38.08 | Hachiman | So the PCA - GEC war is gonna be more underground / black op? |
19:38.13 | Wormy_ | Sovnarkom: My tier scale may help you http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:192744 |
19:38.16 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
19:38.19 | Xho | Drom: The Dominion actually has more than 20 million but then again it's shared |
19:38.32 | Xho | Kilchárunya - stabby times pls |
19:38.45 | Wormy_ | you can skip most of the info |
19:38.48 | Cyrannian | It also sets up some nastiness between the Empire and the New Republic |
19:39.01 | Wormy_ | thats for older users of the scale |
19:39.23 | Cyrannian | Which was first hinted at when Imperial Intelligence attempted to disrupt the meeting between the NCR, the Rambo and the Indocs |
19:39.33 | Sovnarkom | I said this before, but this would be scary, a large, expansive empire, in the most uninhabited parts of space, which is made up of wasp-like creatures, similar to that of Asian Giant Hornets. |
19:39.38 | Sovnarkom | That would be friggin' terrifying. |
19:39.40 | OluapPlayer | Indoc - u mesed up big time |
19:39.44 | OluapPlayer | messed* |
19:39.46 | Sovnarkom | And they have one purpose, conquer. |
19:40.06 | OluapPlayer | The fact they're hornets is terrifying by itself |
19:40.24 | Xho | Krath - welcom 2 dominion |
19:40.26 | Cyrannian | aye |
19:40.27 | Sovnarkom | And they go around to different planets, conquering and taking anything of use. |
19:40.38 | Sovnarkom | Anyone who isn't one of them, undergoes mass extinction. |
19:40.44 | OfficerJackal | *tfw your head get's eaten by a giant wasp. |
19:40.47 | Xho | likes this fiction |
19:41.11 | Sovnarkom | Whatcha mean Xho? |
19:41.13 | Sovnarkom | You like the idea? |
19:41.22 | OluapPlayer | Xho likes anything that involves destruction |
19:41.23 | Xho | I'm pretty well versed in genocide |
19:41.28 | Wormy_ | Sovnar: While we don't have sentient hornets, we do have Mantisorac who are very similar to that concept of expansion. |
19:41.36 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
19:41.44 | drom | Xho: You sound like a Serbian hur |
19:41.52 | Xho | AH NU CHEEKI BREEKI I V DAMKE |
19:42.03 | Xho | I know that's Russian |
19:42.08 | Xho | But screw you brah |
19:42.10 | Sovnarkom | The Vespidae Dominate will conquer all with our stings and our annoying buzzing! |
19:42.13 | drom | niet, ukrainian |
19:42.18 | Sovnarkom | Bow down to your new Hornet overlords! |
19:42.23 | Sovnarkom | Mwuahahaha |
19:42.25 | Xho | Ukranian* |
19:42.32 | Cyrannian | I for welcome our new insect overlords |
19:42.33 | OfficerJackal | Sovnarkom: That seems like a pretty cool idea, although I'd make the fiction more interactive then just wanting to conquer and destroy other empires, like perhaps there is a chance for negotion with them, like becoming a puppet state or something. |
19:42.34 | Wormy_ | Xho: Here is a genocide http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADCP-Vermulan_War/Trials_of_Kilnok |
19:42.35 | Cyrannian | *one |
19:42.52 | Sovnarkom | I agree Jackal, a little more openess. |
19:42.52 | OfficerJackal | negotiation* |
19:43.15 | Sovnarkom | However, there aren't any wing parts for the creature creator thing. |
19:43.24 | Sovnarkom | Which kinda is a problem, when making anthropomorphic wasps. |
19:43.26 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
19:43.46 | OfficerJackal | Wait, there is though, isn't there? Or are you saying you don't like the animated wings you can put on them? |
19:43.47 | drom | Wormy_ Xho: I also have a genocide like story written in the NS history, but it is worded weakly so blah |
19:43.53 | Xho | Wormy_: Santorakh - whoops i kicked a star |
19:43.58 | Sovnarkom | Wait, there is? |
19:44.01 | OfficerJackal | Yeah. |
19:44.05 | Sovnarkom | It's been a long time since I played Spore, so I am not sure. |
19:44.15 | Xho | There are wing parts |
19:44.23 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
19:44.26 | drom | There are. |
19:44.46 | drom | Try using Dark Injection, it does implement even more items, among of them are wings |
19:45.00 | Sovnarkom | Then looks like I have to make the cooperative Tharsis Federacy, and the slave-driving, craziness of the Vespidae Dominate. |
19:46.04 | OfficerJackal | That sounds like a good set of fictions. :D |
19:46.08 | Xho | demons pls |
19:46.24 | Sovnarkom | Yea, the Vespidae Dominate, or the Wasp Kingdom or whatever, is actually inspired by my own fear of them. |
19:46.25 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
19:46.31 | drom | Xho: Demons are overrated |
19:46.35 | Xho | NOOOOOOOOOOOH |
19:46.49 | drom | Improper use of Nu |
19:46.58 | Xho | ur an improper use |
19:47.05 | OfficerJackal | I find wasps actually pretty cool, amazing predators that are also useful in quelling numerous pest species of insects, too bad you can't really own them as pets. :( |
19:47.15 | Wormy_ | you are both improper |
19:47.23 | drom | Xho: u hurt my feelings |
19:47.33 | Xho | yh |
19:47.44 | drom | m8 |
19:47.55 | Wormy_ | Jackal: There's was a man who kept a bee on a string leash |
19:48.05 | Xho | I think I might make a Xhodocto construct for shits and gigs |
19:48.16 | drom | Wormy_: That's the most aborable thing I've ever read on the internet |
19:48.18 | OfficerJackal | Because if I could own a giant wasp as a pet, and it wouldn't kill me, I'd get it in an instant. Have a swaggin' guard doge. |
19:48.26 | Wormy_ | indeed |
19:50.11 | drom | Wormy_ ETS2MPJackal: Arr http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2722852/Man-tames-killer-Japanese-hornet-keeps-bit-string-goes.html |
19:50.57 | Sovnarkom | If Hornets and Wasps didn't attack the innocent, rather the criminal, I would get them as well. |
19:51.05 | ETS2MPJackal | drom: awww yisss |
19:51.43 | Cyrannian | That picture made me NOPE |
19:52.02 | Wormy_ | I want to believe. |
19:53.05 | OluapPlayer | I'ts not tamed, it's just waiting for the opportunity to strike |
19:53.14 | drom | ETS2MPJackal Wormy_ Sovnarkom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NV3EK4YsP8 |
19:53.50 | ETS2MPJackal | Cyrannian: Fun Fact: Some people actually like to have wasps sting them in the private parts for sexual pleasure. |
19:53.50 | ETS2MPJackal | Like, sticking their thing in a jar full of them. .-. |
19:53.50 | DrodoEmpire | oh what |
19:53.50 | DrodoEmpire | what |
19:54.00 | Wormy_ | that is just |
19:54.19 | Sovnarkom | Oh... |
19:54.20 | Sovnarkom | My... |
19:54.21 | Sovnarkom | God... |
19:54.24 | drom | ETS2MPJackal: Reminds me of the Canadian show where one of the park rangers stuff his junk into a bee hive to give his pet bear pleasure |
19:54.26 | Sovnarkom | This thing actually exists in nature? |
19:54.28 | Sovnarkom | Wtf. |
19:54.33 | Sovnarkom | A Mantiwasp? |
19:54.37 | Wormy_ | mimicry is pretty cool |
19:54.37 | Sovnarkom | Oh... |
19:54.40 | Sovnarkom | Mantidfly. |
19:54.52 | drom | Only to be hoptialized and walk out with a "30cm wide junk" |
19:55.04 | ETS2MPJackal | hehehehehhehe ayyy |
19:55.34 | Sovnarkom | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmgJAGpHOek |
19:55.45 | Sovnarkom | Its eyes bother me. |
19:55.48 | Sovnarkom | .-. |
19:55.48 | drom | ETS2MPJackal: This show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brickleberry |
19:56.21 | *** join/#sporewiki Jepardi (b24b970e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.75.151.14) |
19:56.22 | Jepardi | Hi |
19:56.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
19:56.30 | Sovnarkom | Hello. |
20:00.33 | Sovnarkom | Kinda of a strange username I picked |
20:00.35 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
20:05.26 | drom | Sovnarkom: Since I'm ethincally a Swede and have Swedish as my mother tongue, your username is funny to me. Since your name has two Swedish words. "sov" and "narkom" (informal form of "narkoman", translating "sleep" and "addict". |
20:05.46 | Sovnarkom | OH. |
20:05.47 | drom | You are basically a "sleep addict" in my language. |
20:05.49 | Sovnarkom | I didn't know that. |
20:05.52 | Sovnarkom | Interesting. |
20:05.53 | Sovnarkom | xP |
20:06.51 | Sovnarkom | Actually, I got the name from the institution that the Bolsheviks created after the October Revolution of 1917. |
20:06.55 | Sovnarkom | I don't know why, I just needed a name. |
20:06.58 | Sovnarkom | lol |
20:09.00 | Sovnarkom | Zhivago would've been my username, if it wasn't taken. |
20:09.12 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Borealis_Rebellion - Coming later tonight |
20:10.29 | Sovnarkom | This looks interesting. |
20:10.38 | Sovnarkom | But wait, didn't someone say that Borealis was inactive? |
20:10.44 | Sovnarkom | In the forum post I made. |
20:11.09 | Cyrannian | That must have been a mistake |
20:11.20 | OluapPlayer | It was inactive until about 2 months ago |
20:11.28 | Wormy_ | drom: Google thinks this is the parasitic hair worm http://hairstylesbymommy.com/wp-content/gallery/worms/b-6.jpg |
20:12.10 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: ^ |
20:12.13 | drom | Wormy_: Not so long ago, Google's automatic system has tagged black people as "gorillas" |
20:12.24 | Wormy_ | I saw, on the news |
20:12.56 | drom | I loved how the public official statement started with "Holy shit" |
20:12.58 | drom | Very honest I say |
20:13.44 | Hachiman | I am anticipating this Borealis Rebellion, I reckon it's gonna be a good fic |
20:14.15 | Hachiman | Especially if the Cognatus are involved |
20:15.20 | Sovnarkom | I agree. |
20:15.37 | Sovnarkom | I think it has alot of potential. |
20:17.57 | Sovnarkom | How do you take those pictures? |
20:18.01 | Sovnarkom | Of those space battles and stuff? |
20:19.33 | Cyrannian | I use the freecam cheat and the adventure creator in the Galactic Adventures expansion |
20:19.51 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
20:19.53 | Sovnarkom | Oh. |
20:19.57 | Sovnarkom | Freecam cheat? |
20:20.01 | Sovnarkom | So that is in the game? |
20:20.06 | Sovnarkom | I don't need some special program or anything? |
20:20.17 | OluapPlayer | yes that's in-game |
20:20.20 | Sovnarkom | Okay. |
20:20.22 | Sovnarkom | That's great. |
20:21.01 | Monet | The models are ingame but the rest is added in another program |
20:21.13 | Sovnarkom | What do you mean? |
20:21.23 | Sovnarkom | And what other program is this? |
20:21.45 | Monet | Either GIMP or Paint.net |
20:21.54 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
20:21.55 | Sovnarkom | Okay. |
20:21.59 | Monet | The starfield and the fiery logo were made there |
20:22.01 | Sovnarkom | I need to get Paint.net |
20:22.03 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
20:26.59 | Wormy_ | Clearest pictures of Pluto and Charon yet http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33369045 |
20:29.55 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.11) |
20:33.10 | Sovnarkom | Anyone have ideas on what to call the military forces for the Tharsis Federacy? |
20:34.04 | Hachiman | Hm |
20:34.22 | Sovnarkom | Maybe the Planetary Defense Force? |
20:34.28 | Sovnarkom | Or the Systems Defense Force? |
20:34.41 | DrodoEmpire | Tharsis Armed Forces? |
20:35.07 | Hachiman | Federate Terrestrial Outfit? |
20:35.20 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
20:35.31 | Sovnarkom | What would be the demonym for Federacy. |
20:35.33 | Sovnarkom | A Federate? |
20:35.35 | Sovnarkom | A Federative? |
20:35.46 | Hachiman | Hm |
20:35.59 | Hachiman | I would be more inclined towards Federative |
20:36.05 | DrodoEmpire | Federate. |
20:36.12 | Hachiman | Alright, Federate hur |
20:36.23 | Sovnarkom | Don't really want to have Tharsis in the armed forces name. |
20:36.29 | DrodoEmpire | If the demonym for "Confederacy" is "Confederate", then it makes sense. |
20:36.30 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
20:36.31 | Sovnarkom | Something that sounds utilitarian. |
20:37.46 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/1466964259993295 |
20:37.54 | DrodoEmpire | Ah... |
20:38.17 | DrodoEmpire | Not so good with utilitarian names. Better with more formal and extravagant ones. :p |
20:38.30 | Hachiman | olol |
20:38.49 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
20:39.36 | Xho | Wasn't enough hijacking a motorbike |
20:39.38 | Xho | It had to fly |
20:40.10 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
20:40.50 | Sovnarkom | Well first, are the territories within these empires divided into systems. |
20:40.52 | Hachiman | Federate Armed Forces is pretty utilitarian |
20:41.02 | Sovnarkom | If so, I would call it the Systems Defense Force. |
20:41.36 | Sovnarkom | If it is divided via planets, then I would call it the Planetary Defense Forces. |
20:42.00 | Hachiman | Could divide by sectors of systems |
20:42.06 | Hachiman | Sector Defense Force |
20:42.15 | Sovnarkom | That's true. |
20:42.35 | Sovnarkom | I'm really digging in though with Systems Defense Force or Planetary Defense Forces. |
20:42.37 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
20:42.56 | Hachiman | SysDef Force sounds better than PlaDef Force |
20:43.34 | Hachiman | Yeah I would be more inclined towards Systems Defence Force |
20:43.49 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Borealis_Rebellion#Chapter_One:_.22Thus_It_Begins....22 - First chapter is up |
20:44.13 | Sovnarkom | I was thinking more of an acronym. |
20:44.16 | Sovnarkom | Like SDF or PDF. |
20:44.33 | Hachiman | SDF is better overall |
20:44.36 | Cyrannian | PDF would be a fun acronym |
20:44.39 | Hachiman | rite lemme reed dis |
20:45.08 | Hachiman | Yes but PDF could be used for permanent colonial troops on planets rather than ones deployed across systems and territories |
20:46.02 | ETS2MPJackal | United Defence Forces of the Thesaris Federation? Puts emphasis on the decentralized nature of the federation, yet sounds official and recognizes the defense forces as under the banner of the federation. Just my idea, though. XD |
20:46.43 | Xho | PDF |
20:46.50 | Xho | They're all readable |
20:46.55 | Sovnarkom | God damnit Xho. |
20:46.55 | Sovnarkom | lol |
20:47.29 | Monet | PDF is somewhat generic. Then again a lot of real-world armies don't have comittees on cool sounding names |
20:48.06 | ETS2MPJackal | Yeah, so is SDF, you want something which makes it clear it is part of the Federation, not just a generic sounding name. |
20:48.17 | Imperios | Sovnarkom: They're both wrong |
20:48.19 | ETS2MPJackal | For example, the United States Marines are called... Well... That, not just "Marines". |
20:48.25 | Imperios | It's either Federal, or Federated |
20:48.47 | Hachiman | Xeron is hiring mercenaries to do dirty work for him |
20:49.04 | Imperios | Also that name |
20:49.21 | Imperios | Sovnarkom: Your nickname makes me happy |
20:49.44 | Hachiman | This is already an intense fiction considering my fondness towards mercenaries, although I would have thought that the PCA would have its own stealth agents to accomplish tasks such as assassination |
20:50.06 | OluapPlayer | Better get a bunch of criminal nobodies in trouble than yourself |
20:50.27 | Sovnarkom | Want I want is a utilitarian name for the armed forces of the Tharsis Federacy. |
20:50.55 | Sovnarkom | But I wish to know, are territories within empires divided into planets or systems of planets? |
20:51.11 | Sovnarkom | If it is the former, then it is Planetary Defense Forces, if it is the later, Systems Defense Force. |
20:51.11 | Imperios | Hachiman: I think it's to maintain plausible deniability for the PCA |
20:51.18 | Hachiman | They can be divided in anyway the empire seems fit |
20:51.37 | Hachiman | There is no real uniform layout to how empires divide their forces |
20:51.55 | ETS2MPJackal | Sovnarkom: Well, the most common option is that empires are divided into provinces or regions of numerous systems, which contains their own planets. However, it is up to you on what configuration you want. |
20:51.59 | OluapPlayer | Imp got it right |
20:52.12 | OluapPlayer | You'd never suspect the PCA to be involved with mercenaries |
20:52.17 | Hachiman | I suppose that is fair enough |
20:52.21 | OluapPlayer | Same for the New Republic |
20:52.41 | Hachiman | If word got out that Xeron, or anybody on the Council, was involved though I imagine it would spell bad news hur |
20:52.42 | Imperios | Like how we don't go full 'MUHRICA into Donbass because this way we'd lose deniability |
20:52.48 | Hachiman | Both within and outside of the PCA |
20:52.54 | Imperios | Military help we can brush off as volunteers |
20:53.08 | OluapPlayer | He stated the other Councillors were not aware of this meeting |
20:53.15 | OluapPlayer | So yes it would bring bad tidings |
20:53.32 | Imperios | But we can't go full 'Muhrica because 'Muhrica is a dominant superpower and we are not |
20:53.36 | Imperios | I think it's the same with the PCA |
20:54.11 | OluapPlayer | Correct |
20:54.33 | OluapPlayer | The CyraEmp is much stronger than the PCA meaning they can't go guns blazing at them, as much as they want to |
20:54.48 | Imperios | Sovnarkom: So you want something bland right? |
20:56.20 | Imperios | National Armed Forces? |
20:56.28 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
20:56.29 | Imperios | Federal National Armed Forces even |
20:56.32 | Sovnarkom | Something utilitarian. |
20:56.51 | Cyrannian | Even Apaltar isn't aware of the full parameters of this mission |
20:56.51 | Sovnarkom | I was thinking, maybe the local reserve forces on each planet could be called the Planetary Defense Forces. |
20:56.57 | Sovnarkom | And then the main army, something else. |
20:57.04 | OluapPlayer | Apaltar - my hat is not pleased |
20:57.26 | Imperios | Perhaps every subject of the federation has its own army and each has its own name |
20:57.37 | Imperios | Together, they could be called Regional Defense Forces or something |
20:57.38 | Cyrannian | Oh his hat's fully aware of it, just not Apaltar himself |
20:57.45 | Imperios | FNAF or RDF/PDF |
20:58.06 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
20:58.23 | OluapPlayer | Apaltar's hat, the true president |
20:58.54 | Sovnarkom | The basic formula is this, the military is divided into two branches, the Army and the Navy, controlled by the central government, and then each local, planetary government controls their own defense force. |
20:59.19 | Sovnarkom | But these local defense forces would be loyal to the government of course. |
21:00.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Hachiman (56846faa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.132.111.170) |
21:00.43 | OluapPlayer | Apaltar - https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/8/8e/Soldier_item_birdhead_domination03.wav?t=20131030070800 |
21:01.02 | Sovnarkom | Basically... Military -> Army and Navy = Controlled by Central Government / Local Defense Forces = Controlled by Planetary Governors = Loyal to Central Government |
21:01.03 | Cyrannian | lol |
21:01.05 | Sovnarkom | If that makes sense. |
21:01.18 | Cyrannian | This fiction is shaping up very nicely Sovnarkom! |
21:01.31 | Imperios | Sovnarkom: BTW are you a new user or just Vincent under a new name |
21:01.38 | Imperios | ...oh wait Vincent is here so you're not |
21:01.41 | Sovnarkom | Who's vincent? |
21:01.50 | Imperios | He's the local Commie |
21:01.50 | Sovnarkom | I'm actually a new user. |
21:01.53 | Imperios | Oh right |
21:01.53 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
21:01.57 | Imperios | Where are you from BTW |
21:01.58 | Sovnarkom | I'm a Commie too so. |
21:02.00 | Sovnarkom | Don't worry. |
21:02.06 | Imperios | Got that from your name |
21:02.06 | Sovnarkom | Let the Bolshevism flow through your veins. |
21:02.08 | Sovnarkom | ;) |
21:02.25 | Sovnarkom | I would've used a different name, like Zhivago, but it was taken. |
21:02.35 | Imperios | So where are you from? |
21:02.39 | Sovnarkom | So I just went with Sovnarkom, not for its political connotation, just because I needed a name. |
21:02.40 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
21:02.46 | Sovnarkom | I don't really want to say where I live. |
21:02.53 | Imperios | Just the country |
21:03.00 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
21:03.11 | Sovnarkom | I live in the land of guns, conspiracy nuts, and terrible foreign policy... |
21:03.13 | Imperios | Something tells me we are compatriots |
21:03.15 | Sovnarkom | The US OF FUCKING A |
21:03.16 | Sovnarkom | OH YEA |
21:03.18 | ETS2MPJackal | unholsters his officer's pistol from it's holster, and point's it at Sovnarkom, saying "Say where you come from, comra-" |
21:03.19 | Sovnarkom | Lol... |
21:03.23 | ETS2MPJackal | MURICA |
21:03.25 | ETS2MPJackal | FUCK YEAH! |
21:03.27 | Imperios | Land of guns and terrible foreign policy |
21:03.33 | Imperios | And conspiracy nuts |
21:03.38 | Hachiman | Oh great, another American |
21:03.43 | ETS2MPJackal | ? |
21:03.48 | Imperios | ...Well technically that fits my country too but yeah right |
21:03.48 | OluapPlayer | [18:03] <Imperios> Something tells me we are compatriots |
21:04.00 | OluapPlayer | Funny because Imp is Russian |
21:04.07 | Sovnarkom | I actually moved to the United States recently. |
21:04.08 | Imperios | Not just Russian |
21:04.10 | Imperios | NORTH KOREAN RUSSIAN |
21:04.12 | Sovnarkom | So it isn't my country of origin. |
21:04.17 | OluapPlayer | fuk dat you're only one thing |
21:04.20 | Hachiman | Double Commie |
21:04.31 | Sovnarkom | COMMYUNIZUM |
21:04.35 | Imperios | GLORIOUS RED FIRE OF COMMUNISM FLOWS THROUGH MY VEINS |
21:04.43 | Sovnarkom | GLORY TO THE PARTY |
21:04.44 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy__ (4e956231@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.149.98.49) |
21:04.54 | Wormy__ | hi |
21:04.54 | Imperios | ...But I am actually a very mild Nordic-model leftist |
21:04.54 | Cyrannian | spanks Wormy__ |
21:05.02 | Imperios | And don't mind Hachiman |
21:05.15 | Imperios | He just wants you to pay taxes for tea again like the silly Brit he is |
21:05.32 | Cyrannian | I'm terribly disappointed that the only Russian here isn't a communist |
21:05.54 | Imperios | Well I am a socialist |
21:06.04 | Wormy__ | Anarchist communism FTW |
21:06.13 | OluapPlayer | It's not "tea", it's "sippity soopity on the little cuppity" |
21:06.15 | ETS2MPJackal | I don't have a solid political opinion, whatever works for the current situation. If we need a liberal, I will vote for a liberal, and if we need a conservative, I will vote for conservative. And if we need a centrist or anyone else for the current moment, I will vote for him! :D |
21:06.15 | Sovnarkom | You are an Anarcho-Communist? |
21:06.17 | Sovnarkom | Holy shit. |
21:06.20 | ETS2MPJackal | Party hoppers for the win! |
21:06.20 | Imperios | Not me |
21:06.20 | Sovnarkom | I used to be one actually. |
21:06.24 | Sovnarkom | But now I am a Trotskyist. |
21:06.29 | Imperios | Social Democracy :7 |
21:06.38 | Sovnarkom | inb4 a stalinist is in the chat. |
21:06.40 | Imperios | I think that what the USSR did wasn't the right way, though it had its merits |
21:06.59 | Imperios | Strangely enough Stalinists aren't necessarily Communists |
21:07.01 | Sovnarkom | I feel the USSR was doomed due to the Civil War that occured after the Revolution. |
21:07.03 | Sovnarkom | I twas so bad. |
21:07.08 | Wormy__ | I'm actually a border between greenns and social democracy |
21:07.21 | Sovnarkom | The Civil War was so bad that, it lead to the degeneration of Soviet democracy in the, what was known as the, RSFSR. |
21:07.23 | Wormy__ | But I knowsome anarchist communists |
21:07.23 | Sovnarkom | So yea. |
21:07.25 | Sovnarkom | It sucks. |
21:07.26 | Sovnarkom | ;-; |
21:07.33 | Imperios | Many Russians support Stalin purely because of his military and industrial efforts |
21:07.33 | Cyrannian | I'm a good old fashioned social liberal |
21:07.39 | Imperios | Not me though |
21:07.42 | Imperios | Don't like him |
21:07.47 | Imperios | Putin is okay though |
21:07.51 | Imperios | So-so, dare I say |
21:08.01 | ETS2MPJackal | USSR would have survived if 1. It was more democratic earlier and 2. It had started lighting it's policies on private ownership sooner. I feel like the 70's could have been a good chance to implement those things, but it didn't go that way obviously. :/ |
21:08.02 | Sovnarkom | I am actually glad that this hasn't devolved into some political flamewar. Because it happens constantly on other places. |
21:08.10 | OluapPlayer | Imp is not allowed to badmouth the God-Emperor of Mankind inside his borders |
21:08.21 | Imperios | Democratic, maybe not |
21:08.25 | Wormy__ | We just take the piss out of everything here lol |
21:08.32 | Imperios | True democracy takes a LOT of time and it is very hard to create |
21:08.33 | Hachiman | Not sure what I am really |
21:08.38 | OluapPlayer | Yes, we hate everyone equally here |
21:08.50 | Sovnarkom | Actually, Lenin and the Bolsheviks created what was called a Soviet Republic, Soviet meaning Council in Russian, which was based on democratic workers' councils. |
21:08.56 | Imperios | Ya |
21:08.59 | Imperios | RSFSR |
21:09.05 | Sovnarkom | The Soviet government had parties like the Mensheviks and Right SRs and Left SRs. |
21:09.11 | Hachiman | Anything but an imperialist I suppose and I am anti-monarchy hur |
21:09.12 | Sovnarkom | The thing was, the Mensheviks and Right SRs left the government. |
21:09.21 | Sovnarkom | The Left SRs stayed. |
21:09.22 | ETS2MPJackal | Yeah, would have had to be done very gradually if the USSR were to go down that route, but instead after the USSR fell Yeltsin decided to BAM CAPITALISM 100% and... >.< |
21:09.39 | Imperios | What we should have done is to loosen up the society while maintaining the strong control over the country |
21:09.47 | Cyrannian | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10955803_10155189398355195_2486189020062750316_n.jpg?oh=edef8024e81ed734aa35d7654d75b404&oe=5614E1CC |
21:09.47 | Imperios | Like IMO Russians aren't very good at democracy |
21:10.24 | OluapPlayer | Russians are only good at enduring the cold and wrestling bears |
21:10.24 | Sovnarkom | I think Lenin was a, what I call, "an individual of bad circumstances". |
21:10.42 | Sovnarkom | Basically, he was running a brutalized Russia, plagued with disease, famine, and fatigue from WWI. |
21:10.50 | Cyrannian | Wormy__: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11694817_10155845740825195_3684217112158871303_n.jpg?oh=dbf9b496b05e62d1f3d4fa175e49aea6&oe=56167239 |
21:10.55 | Sovnarkom | And he was desperate when the White Armies came and attacked. |
21:10.58 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: And making overwrought depressive novels |
21:11.21 | Wormy__ | Oh, I thought it was aliens |
21:11.29 | Imperios | I wouldn't say Lenin was THAT bad but he was definitely a very brutal and merciless man, albeit talented and visionary, and not without a moral compass |
21:11.51 | Imperios | I usually put him in the same basket as Prophet Muhammad and Charlemagne |
21:12.10 | Sovnarkom | That is what I meant when I said, "an individual of bad circumstances". |
21:12.10 | Imperios | And I am kinda fond of prophet Muhammad so it's a compliment |
21:12.18 | Sovnarkom | I don't deny Lenin had to do some bad things. |
21:12.27 | Sovnarkom | But if we look at the situation, it was pretty bad. |
21:12.45 | Imperios | http://pix.echtlustig.com/1405/versteckte-botschaften--gemeinsam-erfolgreich-in-europa.jpg |
21:12.50 | Imperios | Ya |
21:12.53 | Sovnarkom | I mean, if you applied the conditions of the Civil War in Russia with the United States, the Americans would've done similarly what the Russians did. |
21:12.59 | Sovnarkom | It was that brutal. |
21:12.59 | Hachiman | ALLAH ACKBAR |
21:12.59 | Imperios | Ya |
21:13.06 | Imperios | Hachiman is right |
21:13.07 | Sovnarkom | And it ended Soviet democracy in Russia by its end. |
21:13.14 | Imperios | God is kinda great |
21:13.19 | Sovnarkom | Which led to the Party Bureaucracy. |
21:13.27 | Sovnarkom | But Soviet history and politics aside. |
21:13.30 | Sovnarkom | I need to work on my empire. |
21:13.31 | Sovnarkom | XP |
21:13.31 | Imperios | The bureaucracy is what brought down our society in the end |
21:13.36 | Imperios | Ossification of the regime |
21:13.46 | Sovnarkom | I don't even have a page dedicated to it yet. |
21:13.46 | Sovnarkom | :l |
21:13.50 | OluapPlayer | Talking about politics in the IRC leads to you never getting fiction done |
21:13.54 | OluapPlayer | Imp is the best example of this |
21:14.38 | Sovnarkom | Has there ever been hostilities between the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus and the New Cyrannian Republic? If so, it would probably be devastating. |
21:14.51 | Sovnarkom | Considering it might lead to war in the Cyrannus galaxy. |
21:14.57 | Sovnarkom | ._. |
21:15.06 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU |
21:15.06 | OluapPlayer | A big point of the New Cyrandia Wars is the cold war between the two of them |
21:15.45 | OluapPlayer | But right now the Galactic Empire already has two major enemies to deal with, the Cyrannian Imperial State and the Cognatus Empire |
21:15.48 | Cyrannian | Sovnarkom: Not yet! But who knows what the future will hold... Well apart from me, I know what the future holds, and it makes me tingly |
21:16.00 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
21:16.09 | Sovnarkom | The Cyrannian Imperial State? |
21:16.12 | Sovnarkom | Okay wait.. |
21:16.13 | Xho | Hachiman: |
21:16.23 | OluapPlayer | State = rebels from the Empire |
21:16.28 | OluapPlayer | Cognatus = religious zealots |
21:16.31 | Sovnarkom | So there is the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus, the New Cyrannian Republic, and the Cyrannian Imperial State? |
21:16.39 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
21:16.45 | Sovnarkom | I feel that the CIS is like a puppet state for the GEC. |
21:16.46 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
21:16.51 | Sovnarkom | But yea, I got to get my fiction set up. |
21:16.53 | Imperios | Kinda like there is both the Republic of China and the People's Republic of China |
21:16.58 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
21:17.01 | Sovnarkom | I see. |
21:17.01 | OluapPlayer | It isn't, they're the main factions of the war |
21:17.04 | Imperios | And the Republic of Korea and the People's Democratic Republic of Korea |
21:17.10 | Sovnarkom | So where do I go to set up my fiction page? |
21:17.17 | Sovnarkom | Particularly, my own empire that is. |
21:17.23 | OluapPlayer | You just make a page for it |
21:17.27 | Cyrannian | Sovnarkom: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy#Civilisations Here's a list of some factions in Cyrannus |
21:17.44 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
21:17.46 | OluapPlayer | There's a tool in the wiki's main page which you can use to create empire pages from scratch |
21:17.51 | Sovnarkom | Cyrannian, you really are great at this. |
21:17.53 | Sovnarkom | I got to admit. |
21:17.58 | Imperios | CIS makes crazy threats while NCR makes shitty pop music |
21:17.58 | Sovnarkom | But also others too! |
21:18.03 | Sovnarkom | Not to forget. |
21:18.08 | OluapPlayer | Neraida Gigamatrix da best |
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21:18.48 | Hachiman | Eugh |
21:18.56 | Sovnarkom | So where can I find the place to make my fiction page? |
21:19.03 | Sovnarkom | Cause I am having problems finding it. |
21:19.10 | OluapPlayer | At the main page |
21:19.24 | Cyrannian | Sovnarkom: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Create_a_page |
21:19.31 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://img.ifcdn.com/images/387319326b96fcfeae19b0a7671a8c2d2aacae91218ad660e86a764449bac91b_1.jpg Truth |
21:19.48 | Sovnarkom | Thanks. |
21:19.48 | Cyrannian | Enter the name of the name into the space beside "create fictional empire" |
21:19.55 | Cyrannian | *faction |
21:20.01 | Sovnarkom | I don't have my alien creatures made yet, cause the computer I am using now doesn't have spore. |
21:20.06 | Sovnarkom | But I will make them soon. |
21:20.17 | Hachiman | Imperios: speek 4 urself |
21:20.45 | Sovnarkom | Do I put a space so that the words don't touch the : symbol? |
21:20.48 | Sovnarkom | Or do I keep the close? |
21:20.53 | Hachiman | Keep close |
21:20.56 | Sovnarkom | Okay. |
21:21.03 | Sovnarkom | I don't want to screw it up so.. |
21:21.05 | Sovnarkom | xp |
21:21.12 | Hachiman | Also, despite there being a preview button on the page, never press it |
21:21.20 | Hachiman | At least, never press it in the formal editor |
21:21.25 | Hachiman | You will lose your progress |
21:21.30 | Charles_Murray | I press it, and it works fine? o.O |
21:21.47 | Hachiman | Formal editor |
21:21.51 | Hachiman | Not normal editor |
21:22.26 | Wormy_STO | Sovnar: I always save lots of edits or pages onto something like notepad, pastie or titanpad |
21:23.00 | Wormy_STO | Remember to tag it as private http://pastie.org/ |
21:23.25 | Sovnarkom | What do you mean? |
21:24.16 | Wormy_STO | You can save your progress on there, and it creates a link. A private link can only be seen by you or by peopple you share it with. |
21:24.56 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
21:25.09 | Sovnarkom | Should I do it now? |
21:26.15 | Sovnarkom | When should I use pastie? |
21:26.20 | Sovnarkom | When I'm doing the backstory and stuff? |
21:27.49 | Sovnarkom | Making a page is pretty damn difficuly. |
21:27.55 | Sovnarkom | So much backstory I need to put |
21:27.55 | Sovnarkom | ._. |
21:28.01 | Sovnarkom | Well for the text boxes that is. |
21:28.56 | Cyrannian|STO | You only really need to use it when you are afraid that you might lose what you've wrote due to a crash or something |
21:29.12 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
21:29.42 | Charles_Murray | I've experimented with using it to deliver small stubs of text in an rp setting. |
21:29.47 | Charles_Murray | Example: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Plazith_League#Incoming_transmission_from_the_French_Colonial_Empire |
21:30.45 | Technobliterator | I would advise not using form editor at all, and instead writing it out with the proper editor |
21:31.10 | Technobliterator | But it's much easier to use form editor if you're new |
21:31.58 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
21:32.07 | Sovnarkom | What tier is the Tharsis Federacy. |
21:32.34 | Sovnarkom | I mean, it is relatively small compared to the other empires and they do not have territories outside their galaxy. |
21:33.24 | Cyrannian|STO | Tier 3, perhaps? |
21:33.59 | Sovnarkom | Probably. |
21:34.05 | Sovnarkom | let me look at the tier 3 criteria |
21:38.11 | Sovnarkom | I'm really confused. |
21:38.13 | Sovnarkom | :l |
21:38.21 | Sovnarkom | And I don't mean to be a whiner, but I really am. |
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21:39.31 | ETS2MPJackal | Haha, it's fine, I used to be totally stumped by the whole systen here when I first joined. |
21:39.42 | ETS2MPJackal | System even. >.< |
21:40.07 | Sovnarkom | What does text above screen do? |
21:40.26 | Sovnarkom | That seems like a stupid question when I look at it. |
21:40.29 | Sovnarkom | Nevermind |
21:40.30 | Sovnarkom | lol |
21:44.29 | Sovnarkom | Do I have to add information for all the boxes or could I leave some out? |
21:44.42 | DrodoEmpire | You can leave out some infobox sections |
21:44.47 | DrodoEmpire | If that's what you mean |
21:45.11 | Sovnarkom | Yea. |
21:45.17 | DrodoEmpire | Only fill those that are relevant to you; The rest will automatically not show up |
21:46.19 | Sovnarkom | Okay |
21:47.52 | Sovnarkom | It's going to be a work in progress. |
21:47.57 | Sovnarkom | So it might take days to finish |
21:59.07 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/DIvision_of_Opinion |
21:59.47 | Hachiman_ | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10169383_1603653996542832_5183002867184146621_n.png?oh=bdfbfc994612fe0f915bc42e09954d4c&oe=56240B8C Honestly that fucking hair design is awful |
22:00.42 | Xho | "bad" |
22:00.43 | Xho | top kek |
22:10.45 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
22:10.51 | Sovnarkom | My faction is definently neutral. |
22:11.00 | Sovnarkom | But what kind of neutral. |
22:11.01 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
22:11.13 | Sovnarkom | Oh |
22:11.14 | Sovnarkom | I found it |
22:11.20 | Sovnarkom | Neutral Good - Devoted to Helping Others |
22:11.22 | Hachiman_ | Well if they are a functioning utilitarian society |
22:11.26 | Hachiman_ | Lawful neutral |
22:11.29 | Sovnarkom | My nation is based on the mutual cooperation of other groups |
22:12.17 | Sovnarkom | I looked at alot of the different economies of the different empires. |
22:12.23 | Sovnarkom | Lots are Post-Scarcity. |
22:13.06 | DrodoEmpire | Well... Sort-of |
22:13.38 | DrodoEmpire | "Post-Scarcity" is sort-of a meaningless label imo. :p Either way it doesn't preclude trade or capitalism |
22:14.14 | Sovnarkom | Oh. |
22:14.41 | Xho | I think as a general term it just means sufficiently advanced to be self-sustaining |
22:17.19 | Sovnarkom | What would be a trading economy. |
22:17.38 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean? |
22:17.56 | Sovnarkom | I mean, my nation is like a mix between the Trade Federation from Star Wars and the Tau Empire from 40k. |
22:17.56 | Charles_Murray | I think you might be referring to capitalism? |
22:17.58 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
22:18.10 | Sovnarkom | But I was thinking of not using a currency based sytem. |
22:18.13 | DrodoEmpire | Even post-scarcity civilizations would trade internationally and within its own borders |
22:18.20 | DrodoEmpire | Might be tricky. |
22:18.26 | Charles_Murray | I have a background in economics, so let me know if you have any questions. |
22:18.48 | Charles_Murray | Though yeah, not having a currency for outward exchanges is not very practical. |
22:19.03 | Sovnarkom | Ah. |
22:19.19 | Sovnarkom | I guess I should use some sort of currency for trade with other empires. |
22:19.21 | Sovnarkom | Credits! |
22:19.22 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
22:20.30 | Charles_Murray | You could use the currency of another empire if you want to facilitate trade and investment with them and don't want to create your own currency. The downside to that, though, is that you lose control of parts of your economic policy and, if they choose to, they can screw you up. |
22:20.32 | Sovnarkom | Basically, the gist of my nation's policy is to create mutual cooperation with other empires. |
22:20.36 | Charles_Murray | *looks at Drodo* |
22:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | 3: |
22:21.20 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
22:24.20 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: And for a real life example, see Greece and the Euro. :( |
22:25.08 | Tek0516 | >.> |
22:25.26 | Tek0516 | I killed him with the horror. :P |
22:26.18 | Hachiman_ | Monet: Who would you say was your favourite Batman apprentice? I am inclined towards Nightwing myself hur |
22:27.22 | Monet | Same.. |
22:28.03 | Hachiman | Damian Wayne is a little self-entitled prick in my opinion |
22:29.03 | Sovnarkom | Just a quick clarification, an extragalactic empire is an empire which has territory in multiple galaxies not one right? |
22:29.29 | Monet | AN extragalactic empire is an empire not native to the galaxy concerned |
22:29.43 | Sovnarkom | Oh okay. |
22:29.52 | Hachiman | Yeah, the term for a civilisation with territories in other galaxies is intergalactic |
22:30.29 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
22:30.44 | Sovnarkom | OH. |
22:30.45 | Sovnarkom | Okay. |
22:30.48 | Sovnarkom | My bad then. |
22:32.57 | Xho | It's never really occurred to me how complex Nile is in terms of guitars |
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22:32.58 | Xho | Jesus |
22:33.56 | Sovnarkom | Is it recommended to put a text above the title? |
22:34.38 | Hachiman | Not really |
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22:35.14 | Technobliterator | Which title? |
22:35.37 | ImpyDroid | drom: So I was playing Polynesia in Civ V and Sweden declared war at me |
22:35.40 | ImpyDroid | Problem is |
22:35.53 | ImpyDroid | We were barely out of Classical Era and separated by sea |
22:36.08 | Xho | I'm surprised at myself that I don't listen to Nile more |
22:36.09 | Xho | I mean |
22:36.15 | Xho | Ancient Egypt and Death Metal |
22:36.19 | ImpyDroid | So he sent fucking Triremes and Warriors in boats to attack me |
22:36.22 | Xho | Two of my favourite things as once |
22:37.21 | ImpyDroid | I actually find it funny that you like Egypt so, considering that nowadays Egypt is known primarily for its soap operas |
22:37.32 | ImpyDroid | In the Middle East at least |
22:37.36 | Xho | Ancient Egypt u silly |
22:38.44 | ImpyDroid | It is actually kind of interesting |
22:39.07 | ImpyDroid | The Middle East's cultural centers have not changed at all |
22:39.24 | Xho | What like |
22:39.27 | Xho | Beheading heretics |
22:39.32 | ImpyDroid | Egypt, Mesopotamia (Iraq and Syria), Anatolia (Turkey) and Iran |
22:39.48 | ImpyDroid | No I mean the places that were cool stayed cool mostly |
22:39.57 | Xho | Egypt didn't really |
22:40.01 | ImpyDroid | And places that were shit are not shit but with oil |
22:40.02 | Xho | Not after Rome conquered it |
22:40.18 | Xho | That was pretty much at the very end of Egypt anyway |
22:40.32 | ImpyDroid | Well yeah but the Middle Ages |
22:40.41 | ImpyDroid | Saladin ruled from Egypt for example |
22:42.55 | ImpyDroid | And from what I've heard modern Egypt is a sort of cultural center for Arabs |
22:43.05 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOpFFmrFO0 It's like Ancient Egypt if Angazhar ruled it |
22:43.14 | ImpyDroid | They apparently produce soap operas |
22:43.59 | ImpyDroid | I actually wonder if there are any actual metal bands in modern Egypt |
22:44.13 | ImpyDroid | I remember listening to an Iranian rock band |
22:44.32 | ImpyDroid | https://youtu.be/0lv08VE4Gfg |
22:44.33 | ImpyDroid | Thjs |
22:46.12 | Xho | Nile is pretty much the soundtrack to my imagination |
22:46.14 | Xho | That and Meshuggah |
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22:48.08 | Quark8 | Hello. |
22:48.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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22:49.30 | Xho | There's a song by Nile called "Papyrus Containing the Spell to Preserve Its Possessor Against Attacks from He Who Is in the Water" |
22:49.35 | Xho | #ancientegypt |
22:52.06 | Sovnarkom | I finally got Paint.net |
22:52.11 | Sovnarkom | Time to make the symbol for my empire. |
22:52.14 | Sovnarkom | ;) |
22:52.27 | Cyrannian|STO | Kewl, looking forward to seeing it |
22:54.26 | Sovnarkom | But there is just a tincy wincy problem. |
22:54.31 | Sovnarkom | I have no idea what symbol I should make. |
22:54.34 | Sovnarkom | Hm... |
22:54.43 | Sovnarkom | Have any of you played this game called, "PlanetSide 2"? |
22:55.03 | Sovnarkom | There is a faction in the game called the New Conglomerate and their symbol is great. |
22:55.41 | Sovnarkom | http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4922/ncempirelogo1000x1000.png |
22:56.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I have |
22:56.42 | DrodoEmpire | Awesome game |
22:57.55 | Sovnarkom | I like the Terran symbol too. |
22:57.59 | Sovnarkom | But the New Conglomerate takes the cake. |
23:00.42 | Sovnarkom | But I'd rather make a simple symbol. |
23:00.46 | Sovnarkom | Simple is Better! |
23:01.00 | Sovnarkom | I was thinking a group of stars in the form of a circle. |
23:01.14 | Sovnarkom | Sure, it might be generic, but it is great. |
23:03.44 | Hachiman | Sounds a little too generic |
23:03.48 | Hachiman | At least forme |
23:03.53 | Hachiman | for me even |
23:04.00 | Sovnarkom | What about this? |
23:04.01 | Sovnarkom | http://images.all-free-download.com/images/graphicthumb/flag_of_the_north_atlantic_treaty_organization_clip_art_22670.jpg |
23:04.14 | Sovnarkom | Remove the lines on the top and the sides. |
23:04.21 | Sovnarkom | And then circularize it |
23:04.22 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
23:04.32 | Sovnarkom | Because my nation isn't going to use a flag. |
23:04.34 | Sovnarkom | So... |
23:04.56 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
23:28.03 | Technobliterator | Sovnarkom, I have played it |
23:28.05 | Technobliterator | It is ok |
23:29.48 | Sovnarkom | Hey Cyrannian. |
23:29.54 | Sovnarkom | How did you do that effect for your symbols? |
23:29.57 | Sovnarkom | On your factions? |
23:37.13 | Cyrannian|STO | What effect do you mean? |
23:37.32 | Sovnarkom | Like the shiny effect. |
23:37.48 | Sovnarkom | But I mean, it doesn't really matter much. |
23:37.50 | Sovnarkom | So. |
23:39.20 | Cyrannian|STO | http://www.getpaint.net/doc/latest/GradientTool.html - This may help |
23:39.50 | Sovnarkom | I'm planning on making a very simple symbol for my empire. |
23:40.07 | Technobliterator | paint.net or GIMP are your friend |
23:40.36 | Sovnarkom | I got paint.net |
23:40.38 | Sovnarkom | So i'm set. |
23:41.00 | TekDroid | I personally prefer GIMP but that's because I had Photoshop experience |
23:44.30 | Technobliterator | I personally prefer GIMP because it's multiplatform |
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23:46.17 | Sovnarkom | Sorry about that. |
23:46.20 | Sovnarkom | I accidently left chat. |
23:46.22 | Sovnarkom | Lol |
23:46.31 | Sovnarkom | I kinda like this symbol. |
23:46.32 | Sovnarkom | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/EUFOR_Roundel.svg/1024px-EUFOR_Roundel.svg.png |
23:46.46 | Sovnarkom | Yea, it looks pretty boring, but the meaning of the Circle of Stars is unity. |
23:47.00 | Sovnarkom | Which would fit perfectly in my nation, which is essentially, a confederation of different alien species. |
23:48.01 | Monet | How many stars though |
23:48.09 | Monet | Are you planning ot add |
23:48.20 | Sovnarkom | 12 |
23:48.23 | Sovnarkom | So it looks even. |
23:48.27 | Sovnarkom | Or maybe less. |
23:48.31 | Sovnarkom | But that is just a reference picture. |
23:48.32 | Monet | Roudnel could work |
23:48.48 | Sovnarkom | I like this symbol too. |
23:48.49 | Sovnarkom | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/f/f5/Fo3_Beta_Enclave_Insignia.png/revision/latest?cb=20130602090341 |
23:49.00 | Monet | I recall the American Union used the roundel before they gained so many states it became impractical |
23:49.56 | Monet | Not the American union sorry |
23:50.00 | Monet | The 13 colonies |
23:50.32 | Monet | Remember this emblam represents your empire |
23:51.01 | Sovnarkom | I know. |
23:51.02 | Monet | The symbolism in it is tied to the distinguishing things about the federation |
23:51.12 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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23:51.31 | Sovnarkom | I kinda want a symbol that represents unity and solidarity between the alien species within the Tharsis Federacy and it is simple. |
23:51.34 | Sovnarkom | Simplicity is key here. |
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23:52.28 | Wormy_STO | I'll tell you what popped into my mind. |
23:52.35 | Wormy_STO | Gyroscopes |
23:52.44 | Monet | the idea of the roundel is that what it suggests is all the member nations are united and equal |
23:52.57 | Monet | t oeach other |
23:53.05 | Wormy_STO | or vertical and horizontal gears |
23:55.00 | Monet | Solidarity is a tough one to represent. |
23:55.12 | Sovnarkom | Or just basically unity. |
23:55.20 | Sovnarkom | Something to symbolize unity and it is simple. |
23:55.50 | Monet | Well, the United Kingdom represents unity between five nations by combinbing the flags of each nation into one |
23:56.06 | Monet | four nations, sorry |
23:56.48 | Sovnarkom | Hm. |
23:57.45 | Monet | But combinbing twelve flags might be a bit mesy. |
23:57.50 | Wormy_STO | Wish it had the Welsh Dragon in the centre |
23:58.20 | Monet | What if, rather than stars, the Tharsis Federacy used icons for each race? |
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23:58.49 | Wormy_STO | hi |
23:58.59 | Sovnarkom | Hm. |
23:59.02 | Sovnarkom | That's a cool idea. |
23:59.55 | Technobliterator | Monet, do I have to join the Sith to get to the star forge on Korriban? |