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19:29.13Cyrannian~dropkick OluapPlayer
19:29.14infobotACTION sends OluapPlayer flying like a yipping chihuahua
19:29.41OluapPlayerGoddamn am I bored
19:29.48CyrannianI liked the picture for the Slumbering Lands, did dino make the pterosaurs?
19:30.04OluapPlayerI got those from Sporepedia
19:30.12OluapPlayerThe only good pterosaur model I could find
19:33.44MonetI'd be up for RP but dunno what.
19:34.00MonetRP or fiction planning
19:37.14ImperiosWe can do RP I guess
19:37.27ImperiosActuall wait when will the actual RP for frog war begin
19:37.58drom"frog war"
19:37.59dromhahah
19:40.11ImperiosCorruptus is actually France in disguise
19:40.45XhoThat bit in Skyrim where you have to climb into the Night Mother's coffin
19:40.48Xhongh
19:41.07dromImperios: The only difference though is the exception of the white flag and surrendering
19:41.38ImperiosCyrannian: ...So Sesoka actually seeks to commit genocide of all Mortalitas and Basileus?
19:42.03XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman Imperios: We should make a Dark Brotherhood expy in the Fantasyverse
19:42.07Xhocus all hail void kek
19:42.24OluapPlayereet shit
19:42.41CyrannianYet another child has prayed to their motherrrr
19:43.03ImperiosXho: The assassin guys?
19:43.10CyrannianImperios: Indeed, he thinks the galaxy would be better off without them
19:43.15XhoI did have this idea that if there were a Dark Brotherhood-ish thing in the Fantasyverse they'd worship some goddess of some sort
19:43.23XhoPossibly a daughter-creation of Caligaduro
19:43.33OluapPlayerI imagine many races would
19:43.53ImperiosThis guy reminds me of Tom Kramton now
19:43.56OluapPlayerOnly the Tiranozark would miss the Mortalitas and everyone hates the Basileus
19:44.15XhoObviously not a Night Mother since we already have a Night Father and that's one of Caligaduro's many arch-nemeses
19:45.01ImperiosThere's hating them and then there's actually vying for extinction
19:45.18Imperios*their extinction
19:45.31ImperiosXho: Hm
19:45.46ImperiosWhat about Kau-woman or perhaps that misery dude Liquid Ink created
19:47.45XhoKaicaiusarin is very much unknown in Koldenwelt
19:48.00XhoNyuumvooraa as far as I can tell is inactive and thus not considered canon really
19:48.26XhoNo one has come into direct contact with Kaicaiusarin for around 290,000 years
19:48.41OluapPlayerThe Dracogonarious desire the extinction of every one of their enemies
19:48.45OluapPlayerWhen they ever get enemies that is
19:49.40MonetDracogonarious are actually rather scary like that
19:50.23OluapPlayerThey're very extreme on people they consider incorrect
19:50.43XhoKicath - and u call us unwelcoming
19:50.51OluapPlayerThat's how their homeworld was united before they became spacefaring. They wiped out opposing minorities
19:50.57dromFor the Nomatari Sovereignty usually takes extreme cases that usually lead to a war with the goal to fully exterminate their enemies.
19:51.46MonetOluapPlayer:That's pretty cold
19:52.02ImperiosDra/pol/gonarious
19:52.08dromolol
19:52.10XhoThe Dracs and Kicath are more like-minded then I think the Dracs would like to admit
19:52.12OluapPlayerThey're not a perfect people by any means
19:52.30OluapPlayerIt's one of the things Old Fang wants people to be aware of but the Indoc government is always shutting her up
19:52.42XhoOld Fang - not ebul c
19:52.57MonetIf anything I'm all for it.
19:52.59OluapPlayerOld Fang isn't evil. She just has evil servants
19:53.20MonetI like my heroes to have stains.
19:53.25ImperiosThe Divinarium is probably more concerned with assimilating civilisations
19:53.50XhoI think all my fiction would like to outright obliterate their enemies
19:54.05XhoRegardless of it being a war policy or social policy
19:54.10ImperiosI imagine that they would simply forcibly convert their remaining enemies and absorb them into their culture so that their mentality would be identical to theirs
19:54.10MonetDraconis - Suddenly we sound really nice ocmpared to our firends...
19:54.32dromMonet: When I wrote the last bit of the Conflict of the Sovereignty's history. I was thinking about they would kill their allied's leaders and then let loyalists claim control of the throne.
19:54.48XhoSo the Gigaquadrant is against slavery
19:54.52dromSo they could have their assets, permanently.
19:54.56XhoMost of the Gigaquadrant prefers to exterminate entire species
19:54.57Xho#aliens
19:55.02ImperiosOr perhaps relegate those who would not convert to second-class citizen under severe taxation, ISIS-style
19:55.20Monet1st gig residents - We prefer our enemies ot be dead rather than property.
19:55.36OluapPlayerThey'd completely eradicate the Xhodominion, the Neraida and the Bisistar if they had the chance. At most they'd take away a few hundred individuals of each race for study
19:55.39CyrannianThe Basileus would be more in favour of horrifically torturing a species rather than destroying them outright
19:56.00ImperiosXho: Maybe most Gigaquadrantic civilisations did not have WW2-esque conflicts that resulted in condemnation of genocide
19:56.12OluapPlayerThe only reason they're not going guns blazing on the remaining Wranploer at Borealis is because the PCA managed to pacify part of their population
19:56.14ImperiosOr maybe in most Gigaquadrantic civilisations, the Nazis won
19:56.30XhoImperios: War of Ages dur
19:56.36ImperiosXho: I mean pre-space
19:56.45XhoHm
19:56.48XhoOkay maybe not
19:57.04XhoThen again the Kicath had a ridiculously long history of their own kind killing each other
19:57.11XhoAssassinations became old hat
19:57.23GhelImperios: It sounds like the latter apples to the Dracogonarious.
19:57.29Ghelapplies*
19:57.44OluapPlayerThey eradicated the Ernai, the Marinox, every poor mook alien race caught in between and they want to exterminate the Vengeful Claw just like they exterminated their pre-space oppositors
19:58.15XhoBy the sounds of it, the Dominion have better morals than half the Gigaquadrant
19:58.37XhoThen again they are worshipping deities that have absolutely no morality whatsoever so I guess it just turns itself on the head
19:58.38OluapPlayerHez - this is an empire of demons and we have the best life quality
19:59.38XhoHez - best life quality                   by destroying everyone else's
19:59.50OluapPlayerStill not incorrect
19:59.54ImperiosWait, the Ernai? Didn't the Spinker do that and not the Dracs?
20:00.21OluapPlayerThe Ernai were exterminated by an united effort between the Spinker, Dracogonarious and Bonio
20:00.36XhoHez is certainly evil though, I mean he worships the stereotypical Xhodocto
20:00.48dromImperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM47k2hDF5w
20:01.05OluapPlayerI imagine the Bonio being the angel and the Dracogonarious being the devil in the Spinker's shoulders
20:01.22OluapPlayerConsidering Windey started ruling the race back then I imagine she'd be most inclined to spare the Ernai
20:01.40XhoDrom: What the fuck
20:02.17ImperiosThis made me think of something
20:02.44MonetIt wasn't until the African Slave Trade when peopel started realising slavery was wrong.
20:02.46ImperiosWhat if some Ernai escaped the Drac-Spinker genocide and eventually fled to the Divinarium
20:02.55dromXho: Swedish grocery chain advert.
20:03.04dromThey make the best adverts imo.
20:03.18OluapPlayerWell I remember you once made zombie Ernai which served the Isio'Nar
20:03.24OluapPlayerback when they were still called Eola'Nar
20:03.41XhoIsio'Nar - top troll
20:04.07MonetAnd a lot of the controversy then-and-now was the belief that Africans were inferior. A lot of Rome's slaves were PoWs.
20:06.09HachimanEbola'Nar
20:07.21OluapPlayerolol
20:07.40ImperiosThat was a pretty dum idea now come to think about it
20:08.58ImperiosI actually think now that the reason for the war between Jaharan's Church of Spode and the Dracs/Spinkers could be vengeance for the
20:08.59ImperiosErnai
20:09.26OluapPlayerThat's an idea
20:09.34OluapPlayerBut yeah you can have Ernai in the Divinarium
20:14.09XhoHm what to do
20:16.42dromWormy_away: http://files.facepunch.com/ziks/2015/June/30/2015-06-30-1537-48.mp4
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20:22.51JepardiHi
20:35.01Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/65/LupercalPic.png/revision/latest?cb=20150630203346 And that's how Lupercal looks now
20:36.12TekDroidO.o
20:36.15OluapPlayerLupercal - >still a spider                  fuk all
20:36.36dromImperios: His colored nose looks like a third eye
20:37.12ImperiosOluapPlayer: Spider-Rat, Spider-Rat, gets wherevere a rat can get
20:37.41OluapPlayerhur
20:39.34TekDroidIt looks like only Radeon part left is half the head.
20:46.36XhoNecronspiderrat
20:49.57Xhohttp://mrambisinistrous.deviantart.com/art/Erzengel-4K-Resolution-543182584 So that's Gmod at 3840 x 2160 resolution
20:51.46Wormy_awaymeincraft
20:52.54Wormy_SporeTime to make ded Tuna people
20:53.56OluapPlayerBig medic
21:01.44dromMonet: I do imagine Zaalqoríum and the Sovereignty itself holding a lawful evil alignment.
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21:02.10DrodoEmpirehi everyone
21:02.55GhelHello.
21:03.12dromHello
21:03.39Wormy_Sporedrom, Monet:  Do you imagine the Dromanji as upright, or more like a sea animal?
21:03.47Wormy_SporeHi
21:04.17MonetMight be intersting to have them as some sort of sealife
21:04.34dromWormy_Spore: I like the idea of sea animal, but it might be a idea to give them ability to walk anyway.
21:05.17Wormy_SporeI'm going to give them a fish and sea type appearance, with linb like features
21:05.38dromWormy_Spore: I prefer to see them as cray-fish like
21:05.46dromcrayfish-jelly
21:06.37Wormy_SporeKinda, I also have the image of those Japanese cryptids
21:07.04Wormy_SporeNingen, but slightly less human'ish
21:09.42XhoNingen but slightly less humanish
21:09.54XhoAs a person who knows Japanese that bothers me linguistically
21:10.09Xho'Ningen' is Japanese for 'human'
21:11.04OluapPlayerHUMANS ARE CRYPTIDS
21:11.12OluapPlayercreepypasta.txt
21:12.02dromlet's make soylent green of ningens
21:12.30GhelHumans, but slightly less humanish. That makes sense, but I don't think it was what Wormy was going for.
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21:16.23Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11707699_491106271049578_7132045656850538966_n.jpg?oh=d7b8afc5b4885288aeb9c5d7f81cdc92&oe=561F60E1 "Not sure if World Cup or WWII"
21:16.51XhoNot totally accurate but close enough
21:18.36dromSpeaking of football
21:18.49dromThere is currently a match between Portugal and Sweden.
21:19.35dromStill 0-0 after 115 mins of tense conflict over the ball, currently in after extra time.
21:20.24XhoThat's a lot of extra time
21:21.05dromIn case any is asking, it's the U21-EM cup.
21:21.08dromFinal match
21:21.16TekDroid[Insert joke about Portugal/Sweden WWII neutrality
21:22.03XhoLondon's supposed to reach 34 C
21:22.05Xhotomorrow
21:22.20XhoI am glad that we have a costal breeze in Southampton otherwise absolute death
21:22.43XhoThat and it's gonna be around 29 C tommorrow
21:22.47Xhotomorrow*
21:22.55Xho29 C is still too much for the UK though
21:23.21MonetI am reminded of that nasty heatwave that wept London in the mid-2000s.
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21:24.07Zillafire101Hello everyone.
21:26.28GhelHello.
21:30.03dromOkay. The final's over.
21:30.06dromResults?
21:30.15dromSweden won with 4-3
21:31.01Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11150994_252973781539678_8563767776410308876_n.png?oh=102cfa92bf808871eb087775ee20f54b&oe=562C7C84 My gaming logic exactly
21:31.04XhoDrom: wait wat
21:31.18XhoYou're saying seven goals happened in extra time
21:31.38OluapPlayerXho: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/687145930896958921/5EA1B35534C8E48AC5B9CD22F6BE9DCA1E52B4AE/ I FEEL
21:31.42XhoOh right on penalties
21:31.46XhoThat would explain it
21:31.46dromyes
21:31.57drom0-0 (4-3)
21:31.57XhoOluapPlayer: DIK
21:32.04CyrannianBai
21:32.12XhoOdd for Portugal to lose
21:32.17XhoSweden must have had their game on
21:32.31OluapPlayerdum reptile
21:32.54dromThe goalie was quite good. Portugal's goalie was quite good too.
21:34.10dromBut our's caught the last penality kick, so we won the match.
21:35.18XhoI can tell you don't watch football much hur
21:35.43dromInterestingly, I can draw a similarence between football finals and horror movies. Both are scary and thrilling.
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21:37.22dromYeah. I pretty much don't watch football unless it's my nation (if they are doing good in the cup, regardless their opponents are terrible or not) or the finals hur
22:02.29TekDroid~test
22:02.36infobotmethinks test is not funny
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22:13.04Wormy_SporeI never get to make my creations ontime before chat dies.  Oh well http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/67/Dromanji.png/revision/latest?cb=20150630221206
22:13.28HachimanJesus that looks really weird
22:13.32HachimanI like it though
22:13.58Wormy_SporeCool thanks.  I was thinking how a tuna would become a shallow water feeder
22:14.18Wormy_Sporewith fins becoming digits and feelers, and extra eyes
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22:29.43HachimanPretty weird to imagine the Dromanji as an intimidating supernatural presence when they look like that hur
22:30.00HachimanThen again, I suppose that's kind of the thing with aliens
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22:35.39MonetAwayNormal Radeons though.
22:35.45Wormy_SporeHachi:  Try thinking of a ghostly Ningen floating up to your window tonight
22:36.08Wormy_SporeThat is how I imagine them in alien ghost form
22:37.39TekDroidIt's a national holiday tomorrow and I have to work. :/
22:40.52Wormy_SporeWho owns the Tahar now?
22:41.11Wormy_SporeOr rather controls them
22:41.33MonetAwayIrsk gave his KG fictions to Imperios.
22:42.02Wormy_SporeI want to make up a couple of Tahars
22:42.19Wormy_SporeHm I missed him
22:42.29MonetAwayYeah.
22:42.58HachimanI wanted to take up the Tahars but I am occupied with the Zazane fic hur
22:42.59Wormy_SporeThey are throwaway characters, due in the first couple of paragraphs hur
22:42.59Wormy_Spore*die
22:42.59MonetAwayDo they die?
22:43.05MonetAwayOh
22:43.07MonetAwaythey do lol
22:44.04Wormy_SporeBasically they beam to the surface of a backwards planet, possibly one with poverty and refugees from the annihilation being under the effect of the Xhodopctofinder
22:44.21Wormy_SporeThey have come to refute the Xhodoctofinder because supernatural
22:44.29Wormy_SporeEven though he is a man
22:44.52Wormy_SporeAnyway they find him, and start to reason with him.  And yeah, he's a murderer
22:45.01MonetAfaik Imp was planning to change the Tahars to be anti-religious as a social defence mechanism. Rather tha nthe current explaination that the Tahar had lotsof holy wars in their past and come ot the conclusion religion caused war.
22:46.40MonetAlthough as far as I can tell a lot of human scholars consider "religion" to be a form of moral justification justifications for stuff like the Crusades, rather than being the primary influencing factor.
22:48.30MonetThough I like the story idea.
22:50.29MonetHachiman: You know have me curious at what you may have done with the Tahar.
22:50.34Wormy_SporeI can't imagine the Finder will be much a challenge for Kilnok
22:51.00HachimanWormy_Spore: Should make him so just for story purpose though
22:51.03MonetHachiman: You now have me curious at what you may have done with the Tahar.
22:51.11HachimanMonet: Not sure really what I would have done
22:52.01Wormy_FalloutIts possible that the Xhodoctofinder has become highly intelligence and more cunning
22:52.11Wormy_Falloutsince his terror began
22:52.33Wormy_FalloutAnd maybe ironically, he captures the attention of the Xhodocto
22:52.46MonetSeems a little shameful really to me they're more remembered as "crazy anti-religion guys" than "Kraw Galaxy's smart guys"
22:53.23HachimanYeah I was gonna focus on their more scientific and intelligent side than their antitheistic side
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22:53.40MonetHi Impy
22:53.44HachimanHai
22:53.45MonetWormy was just looking for you
22:54.18Wormy_FalloutI could portray their smartness more.  But maybe introduce a little childlike naivity
22:55.04ImpyDroidRite
22:55.26Wormy_FalloutImpyDroid:  Basically, I want to make up a few Tahar characters, though some will die shortly in the story http://pastie.org/private/7ixyjmkxhadvwogy1kl0qa
22:55.37Wormy_FalloutIs this okay with you
22:56.01Wormy_FalloutI think it is polite to ask since, well, some are expendable
22:56.08MonetI remember one early story I had where a Draocnis met a three eyar old Tahar who knew long division.
22:56.30ImpyDroidCould work
22:56.35Monetthree year old tahar*
22:57.27Wormy_FalloutWell there is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist-scientist archetype
22:58.16Wormy_FalloutProfoundly intelligent but a bit unprepared for the reality of the world beyond their dreams
22:58.16Monet...although about five minutes later the guards to Horkarew's palace conficscated all the party's guns, but not the captain's navy-issue combat knife.
22:58.36ImpyDroidActually it would make sense
22:58.50HachimanYeah Irsk had this thing where knives and blades were useless in his world
22:58.51ImpyDroidThey are intelligent within their own field but also highly insular because of it
22:59.56ImpyDroidActually Classical China would be a good comparison - highly advanced, but also not willing to innovate as much as others because of their superiority complex
23:00.13MonetDunno about useless (since Kies had sword experience), the Tahar appeared to ignore knives as potential weapons.
23:01.44Wormy_FalloutThen that is a more realistic way for me to portray them.  scientists sent to the planet to improve things, and of course, reject this nonsense about a witch-hunter, but only with the former goal in mind.  Correct that he is normal, but obliuvious to his dangerous character
23:01.45MonetBut he did have an avoidance to them
23:02.34ImpyDroidAdmittedly disregarding knives would make sense if Horkarew and his guards were  protected
23:03.10MonetAdvanced enough mesh or armour yeah probably
23:03.23HachimanTrue but the Tahar as a whole had an aversion to the potency of knives and edged weaponry
23:03.37HachimanAnd disregarded people that used them as being silly or stupid
23:03.54MonetModern ballistic vests I don't think they're very good at stopping edged weapons.
23:04.06Wormy_FalloutThe Tahar can't wear that armour all day
23:04.24MonetClass I ballistic armour can't sto panything larger than a 9mm bullet
23:04.39HachimanAnd even then, bullets still hurt you
23:04.44MonetWormy_Fallout: I was thinking a lightweight bullet-resistant mesh.
23:04.50HachimanThey stop penetration damage
23:04.54HachimanNot impact damage
23:05.20MonetOh yeah, that kinetic energy has to go somewhere
23:05.53Wormy_FalloutI remember watching this wild weather documentary.  There was a storm in the US with giant hailstones.  A oliceman put on his bullet proof vest and got people to safety, but still ended up bruise and winded (then again most bullets shielded by the vest would cause such things)
23:06.18MonetThe main argument for the effectiveness guns seems to be the range advantage
23:06.49HachimanYes but most soldiers are equipped with combat knives anyway as a sidearm
23:07.02Wormy_FalloutImpyDroid:  Any advise on naming Tahar?
23:07.02MonetOr as a tool
23:07.17HachimanDue to the fact that it is useful for combat claustrophobic and tight-space environments
23:07.25ImpyDroidLots of Ks and Rs
23:07.39Wormy_FalloutI'll keep that in mind
23:07.42ImpyDroidSomething vaguely Slavic and/or Scandinavian
23:08.12ImpyDroidThe "rg" combination too
23:08.55ImpyDroidActually wait you could also add a -us to the end
23:09.19ImpyDroidAnd "zh" to stand for the sound "s" makes in "pleasure"
23:15.22Wormy_FalloutGood idea
23:15.37Wormy_ficthanks
23:16.26MonetI've noticed a lot of his fictions have an "East of Berlin" feel when it comes to name and language.
23:30.56DrodoEmpireThis conversation seems interesting
23:31.05DrodoEmpireWhat;s this about? Something about the Tahar?
23:58.39Wormy_ficEh too hot and bothered to write much

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