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| 00:21.31 | Quark8 | Hello Charles_Bot. |
| 00:42.09 | drom | So it turns out that my processor is a 1155-socket. |
| 00:42.16 | drom | Definitely least 4 years old |
| 00:54.00 | Hachiman | So after reading through TvTropes and Cracked, I have come to realise that, really, there is no real justifiable intention as to why a highly-advanced alien race that is not native to our solar system would instigate an invasion of Earth or the planet of any lower-tech society |
| 00:54.41 | DrodoEmpire | Eh |
| 00:55.00 | Liquid_ink | Prettymuch |
| 00:55.29 | DrodoEmpire | Very few reasons; For example if they're *desperate* for a fertile world that just so happens to fit their biochemistry well. Besides that yeah no |
| 00:55.49 | DrodoEmpire | There's a *lot* of space in space. :p |
| 00:56.17 | Hachiman | And regarding the argument of resources, if you are a highly-advanced spacefaring race that can travel on the scale of light years, why do you need to gather them from inhabited planets when you can gather them from much more reliable and uninhabited sources |
| 00:56.46 | DrodoEmpire | I guess in the fictionverse an Andasium-rich world *may* be the target of a short campaign to seize the rare resource |
| 00:57.23 | Hachiman | I mean gas giants and other celestial bodies in our solar system hold much more value in regards to resources than Earth does and almost none of them can retaliate against alien intervention by merit of not being inhabited by any form of civilisation |
| 00:57.59 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:58.08 | DrodoEmpire | Plenty of conventional resources |
| 00:59.12 | Hachiman | The only actual logical justifications I can find in an alien invasion is due to either political, cultural, or philosophical conflicts between the invasive and native species, or the invasive species happens to treat terrestrial warfare as some form of entertainment or training program |
| 00:59.47 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:00.10 | DrodoEmpire | An organized state would have no business with primitives. Though |
| 01:00.14 | DrodoEmpire | *Though, |
| 01:00.50 | DrodoEmpire | *Perhaps* private citizens would try and take over such a world and establish a "kingdom"? |
| 01:00.56 | Hachiman | Slavery is not really a justifiable condition considering that if you are a hi-tech society, why is one still relying on manual labour when one can create and manufacture AI to pilot ships and consequently, presumably, design lower-level AI for simpler and more menial tasks |
| 01:01.19 | DrodoEmpire | Keep in mind that many European conquests were in fact performed by corporations of even groups of private citizens |
| 01:01.27 | Hachiman | Hm yeah that is true |
| 01:03.12 | DrodoEmpire | I recall one book I heard about... I forget its name but basically a group of British explorers attempt to establish a kingdom among an Afghan/Iranian tribe using twenty Martini-Henry rifles. Its possible the same thing happens with aliens and pre-spacefaring civilizations. |
| 01:03.48 | Hachiman | Hm perhaps |
| 01:04.28 | TekDroid | The one thing about alien invasion though is costs. If they stay under control you get the whole planets resources, a full labour force and minimal financial investment required. Why build one when one already exists? |
| 01:04.52 | TekDroid | It's not the most sustainable, but it's possible |
| 01:04.56 | Monet | I think there was one Discovery Channel documentary that suggested Earth's biomass could be of strategic impoertants. Bat again, there are easier alternatives |
| 01:05.18 | DrodoEmpire | So basically what the Spanish did in Mesoamerica and the Inca Empire? |
| 01:05.32 | DrodoEmpire | Use the existing bureaucracy and political system to exploit resources? |
| 01:05.53 | TekDroid | I believe so |
| 01:05.56 | DrodoEmpire | Still vast organized campaigns would be *extremely* silly. If an alien "invasion" were to happen, it'd be either a group of alien businessmen offering trade a handful of conquistadores turning the natives against eachother for their own advantage, before striking at a vital moment. |
| 01:06.04 | Monet | Why build everything when you can use the native infrastructure that's already there? |
| 01:06.06 | DrodoEmpire | *or a handful |
| 01:06.22 | Monet | IIRC the Scrin invasion of Earth was more of a mining expedition. |
| 01:06.38 | Monet | in Command and Conquer |
| 01:06.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:07.03 | Monet | They did attack Earth cities, but that was to draw attentino away from their harvesting and construction sites. |
| 01:07.15 | drom | They came attracted by the detontation of the liquid tiberium bomb. |
| 01:07.16 | DrodoEmpire | Though again that raises the question of why they didn't simply go to an uninhabited planet in the system? |
| 01:08.57 | drom | DrodoEmpire: because Scrin is a race that feeds on Tiberium to survive. Earth happens to be a hold large amounts of these. |
| 01:09.04 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 01:09.17 | Hachiman | Other than the potential explanation that Earth could be a Tiberium gold mine |
| 01:09.27 | Monet | Its still a mystery as t owhether the source of tiberium was coincidental or the Scrin's doing |
| 01:09.41 | Monet | No, Tiberium is exclusively alien. |
| 01:10.16 | Monet | It was first spotted on the banks of the Tiber River and expanded thoughout Italy first. |
| 01:10.44 | drom | "The Scrin name of Tiberium, Ichor, comes from Greek mythology, which is the substance that flows in the gods' veins." |
| 01:11.01 | Monet | Thing is the Scrin weren't expecting a sapient society to still be around when they arrived. |
| 01:13.32 | drom | Tiberium was introduced through a meteorite impact so yeah |
| 01:14.00 | Monet | They expected the radiation from Tiberium to have turned Earth into a radiation-soaked green-and-blue rock |
| 01:14.31 | Wormy_gaming | bye |
| 01:16.47 | Monet | Its actually interesting how more modern games and movies depicting alien invasion show attacks o ncities to be distractions or tactics to induce panic rather than an effort ot occupy huma nterritory. |
| 01:18.20 | drom | I like to think that the invasion on Earth in XCOM was a way to harvest food. |
| 01:18.44 | Hachiman | But it wasn't |
| 01:19.00 | Monet | Partly |
| 01:19.05 | Hachiman | The invasion in XCOM was implied to be the Ethereals' means of testing and indirectly advancing humanity |
| 01:19.30 | drom | Hence the upcoming sequel |
| 01:19.31 | Monet | Excersions onto UFOs do uncover vats filled with a nutrient paste that, upon lab examination, contai ntraces of huma nDNA. |
| 01:19.53 | drom | You can see posters of ethereals in the trailer. |
| 01:20.13 | Hachiman | I do wonder exactly why Ethereals are still around in XCOM 2 |
| 01:20.28 | drom | The whole invasion was a test. |
| 01:20.30 | Hachiman | I would have thought the demise of the Uber Ethereal would have outright killed any other Ethereals |
| 01:21.13 | Hachiman | Then again, I prefer to imagine that since the entire invasion was a test for humanity, there would probably be more than just *one* alien mothership |
| 01:21.24 | drom | Monet: You can also see corpses being transported in tubes in the Alien Base mission. |
| 01:22.03 | Technobliterator | Monet, do you recall the underwater mission in Manaan? |
| 01:22.23 | Monet | Word from Firaxis devs is that the sequal is based on a scenario where XCOM fails |
| 01:22.42 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 01:22.43 | Monet | Technobliterator: Yes. I'm guessing you're at the fluid tanks at the ravine? |
| 01:23.10 | Technobliterator | Well, I'm not sure whether I should blow up the station or poison the kolto |
| 01:23.54 | Hachiman | I think it would be an interesting thing to see whether or not the intervention of the Ethereals in XCOM 2 is actually beneficial for humanity and society has actually improved |
| 01:23.56 | Technobliterator | Kolto poisoning gives DSP, blowing up station gives LSP? |
| 01:24.47 | drom | Monet: Do you mind linking the source? |
| 01:27.14 | Monet | drom Aa interview with Angry Jow |
| 01:27.16 | Monet | Lemme find it |
| 01:27.27 | Hachiman | Eugh AngryJoe |
| 01:27.39 | drom | Monet: No need. |
| 01:27.43 | Hachiman | I used to be fond of him but I cannot stand how he pampers to people |
| 01:28.00 | Monet | Technobliterator: Depends which way you want your character to go |
| 01:28.11 | Hachiman | Plus his gimmick has gotten to AVGN-levels of stale |
| 01:28.14 | drom | Hachiman: Honestly and Truth can be very rude. |
| 01:29.25 | drom | http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/25/8844649/french-taxi-driver-protest-uber-pop-paris |
| 01:30.16 | Hachiman | I mean I used to enjoy his reviews but then I discovered he defends Anita Sarkeesian |
| 01:30.24 | Hachiman | And there is absolutely no justifiable excuse for that |
| 01:30.37 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:30.52 | DrodoEmpire | Uber's a little sketchy anyhow isn't it? |
| 01:31.10 | drom | I don't watch or do I care about AngryJoe anyway. |
| 01:31.54 | drom | DrodoEmpire: I prefer taking the bus over the taxi |
| 01:32.02 | drom | taxis can be very shady and sketchy |
| 01:32.14 | Hachiman | And buses cost less |
| 01:32.18 | Hachiman | At least in the UK |
| 01:32.54 | drom | A busticket cost £1-2 here. |
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| 01:33.29 | Hachiman | Yeah, I usually get a bus ticket for £1.90 |
| 01:33.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Charles |
| 01:33.42 | Monet | Hi |
| 01:34.03 | Charles_Murray | Hey! |
| 01:34.08 | Monet | There are so many taxi firms across the globe protesting Uber I wonder if its that good an idea. |
| 01:34.21 | Charles_Murray | Ugh, I'm exhausted. Graduation is tomorrow o.o So I'm almost there! |
| 01:34.22 | drom | The average ticket in where I live do however cost double the average national price. |
| 01:34.43 | drom | So.. that's £4-5 a ticket |
| 01:34.57 | Monet | Taxi firms protesting for a service that allows you to call any taxi in range. Sounds good on paper so the protests have got to do with its use in practice |
| 01:35.21 | Hachiman | Same thing with communism really |
| 01:35.21 | drom | return ticket? forget that! get an another for the way back! |
| 01:35.43 | Hachiman | Bloody taxi Soviets |
| 01:36.50 | DrodoEmpire | So someone asked on a facebook post "Who do you think the world belongs to?". |
| 01:37.03 | DrodoEmpire | As an EUIV player, I was *very* amused when someone said "Ryukyu." |
| 01:39.14 | Monet | If I recall, the comaplint of the Uber taxi service is that the cloud service makes things easier for unlicensed taxi firms. |
| 01:39.41 | Monet | And makes it easier for unlicensed firms to steal customers from legitimate taxi companies. |
| 01:40.43 | drom | Well at least it does beat the usually bad taxi companies |
| 01:41.34 | Monet | I still don't like it. These unlicensed firms don't pay tax. We have enough of that already really. |
| 01:42.05 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Isn't Ryukyu a chain of islands near Japan? |
| 01:42.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:42.48 | DrodoEmpire | The joke is that its a one-province minor country in EUIV, and when the game first came out this guy took over the entire planet with Ryukyu and wrote about the whole thing with screenshots |
| 01:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | BTW that's *almost impossible*. |
| 01:43.03 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 01:43.30 | DrodoEmpire | I can barely build a decent-sized empire with the Ottomans |
| 01:43.33 | Hachiman | Holy shit hur |
| 01:43.54 | DrodoEmpire | Let alone some tiny, out-of-the-way animist country with one of the worse tech-groups in the game. XD |
| 01:45.30 | DrodoEmpire | I think the game itself has some four-thousand provinces total. By the time he united the entire planet he probably had about 85% of those provinces conquered (some where uncolonized) |
| 01:46.09 | DrodoEmpire | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/617280783329384482/7ED5F1CC40E1C1C222234282B72A37EF4CDAA3BD/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside%7C506:284&composite-to=*,*%7C506:284&background-color=black - This was what it looked like (those blackened provinces are occupied by rebels. Millions of them) |
| 01:46.36 | Hachiman | That's actually insane |
| 01:46.38 | Hachiman | Fucking how hur |
| 01:46.41 | DrodoEmpire | I know, right? |
| 01:47.00 | DrodoEmpire | I think the actual forum post is still up where he took over the planet. I can try and find it if you're interested |
| 01:47.15 | Hachiman | Yeah go ahead |
| 01:47.26 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/kIq8krI.jpg - Oh yeah there's this picture, when he was taking over the HRE |
| 01:47.28 | Hachiman | I'll have to read through it tomorrow because it's late but damn |
| 01:47.33 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 01:47.53 | drom | It's 4am here ahaha |
| 01:48.49 | DrodoEmpire | https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-three-mountains-a-ryukyu-aar.709144/ |
| 01:48.56 | DrodoEmpire | Its a *loong* read but its worth it |
| 01:49.18 | DrodoEmpire | Its also of an earlier build of the game; A *lot* has changed since then but the Ryukyu world conquest is still possible |
| 01:49.55 | DrodoEmpire | It actually got to the point where the devs of the game where "cheering him on", so to speak and added an achievment to the game named after his AAR just for him. XD |
| 01:51.47 | Hachiman | "What was the name of the Emperor Penguin? Julius Freezer." |
| 01:51.54 | Hachiman | Fuck off Penguin, get better puns |
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| 11:01.18 | Monet | I had this thought that some provinces in the DI are multispecies empires themselves, Who under the DI might be eager for expansion their own way. |
| 11:04.29 | Monet | I wonder if the DI could pull off a system where a province could declare war (with the right Cassus Belli) with an opt-in clause for any other province. |
| 11:04.43 | Hachiman | Huh that'd be curious |
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| 11:05.17 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:05.52 | Monet | Hello |
| 11:05.54 | Monet | If it does ,could expalin why some would consider attacking the Imperium. They might be under the impression that provinces more often defend themselves. |
| 11:05.55 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: I imagine they could pull it off provided they have a clear list of what is and what isn't a just cause |
| 11:07.01 | Monet | Suppose comething like that could be left to an inter-province committee. |
| 11:08.39 | AdmiralPanda | I take it you mean the list designed by comittee, because you just couldn't manage a system like that taking it on a case-by-case basis |
| 11:09.33 | Monet | That would be more useful. |
| 11:10.12 | Monet | The list could, in theory, be managed by political science or international relations graduates of Imperial universities. |
| 11:13.55 | Monet | It would give the territories a greater feel of autonomy but if they get in trouble, they can in principle ask for help from neighbouring provinces. |
| 11:15.44 | Monet | I don't imagine the Cases For VIable Provincial Declaration of War Act being very slim. |
| 11:17.58 | Monet | Not to mention the potential for hundreds of amendments. |
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| 11:20.32 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 11:25.26 | Monet | Hi |
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| 11:35.35 | Monet | Okay then, so Imperial provinces can declare war by themselves (But not against another Imperial territory) but they will have to make sure the reason for war war fits at least one of agreed-upon viable reasons laid out in a legislative act formed and passed by the Grand Senate. |
| 11:38.19 | Monet | With this included in the list of things Pax Draconica allows, Imperial provinces get a lot of leeway in how they can manage themselves. |
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| 11:47.42 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:48.00 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 11:48.43 | Monet | Then again this new idea reinforces that the Imperium lives up to its name as a "power to command" |
| 11:49.43 | Monet | Its definitely rather hegemonic. |
| 11:51.33 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 11:53.31 | Monet | I can imagine some critics going "So what's the DI trying to be? an empire or an alliance" |
| 11:54.55 | Hachiman | Well, the Empire of Man and the Sovereignty of Dryada are kinda both as well |
| 11:55.22 | Hachiman | More the Empire than the Sovereignty |
| 11:55.54 | OluapPlayer | What's the subject? |
| 11:57.23 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I've come up with a new aspect of Pax Draconica: Provinces can declare war on others so long as their reasons match a list of valid declarations for war created os the provinces could do this. |
| 11:57.36 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvSvdTQyplE Have a bear swimming in a pool |
| 11:57.45 | OluapPlayer | I see |
| 11:57.47 | Monet | They can declare war and the ITN doesn't have to be involved. |
| 11:59.28 | Monet | Though IMO it would be boring of if the DI's only critics were designated villains |
| 12:02.53 | Monet | Given how much democracy and freedom of expression has swept the world, it would be silly if a much more ancient empire was still functioning like it was the 18th century. |
| 12:03.11 | Monet | Well... |
| 12:04.11 | Monet | Basically what I mean is that given what's already in place with the DI (such as trans-empire corporations), treating provinces like lesser territories might be a bit backwards. |
| 12:05.22 | Monet | bbl |
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| 12:14.08 | Hachiman | dumternet |
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| 12:57.36 | AdmiralPanda_ | hai all |
| 13:13.33 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11214703_671458166320701_6753186462818770615_n.png?oh=2960b5857e747983c06c50fa40b1c1f7&oe=55E72645 "terrorist fish so good it'll blow your mind" |
| 13:14.38 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10372030_667946813338503_6414687291302517024_n.png?oh=5510e2f4574d1ee22e65b007718aae4a&oe=562B4294 Ohgod |
| 13:14.50 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 13:29.35 | Hachiman | "Our Earth is only 4 billion years old in a universe that is 14 billion years old. What could a species learn, create, and do that has a 2 or 3 billion head start on us? What about 10?" "they probably have better memes" |
| 13:30.22 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: They think now most of the gold that exists actually comes from neutron star collisions. I think some powers in the SporeWikiverse may be able to set a couple into collision |
| 13:30.46 | Hachiman | Neutron stars = literal gold mines |
| 13:30.51 | Wormy_ | The Grox Meta-Empire flung a neutron star at the Jovar fleet lol |
| 13:30.58 | Wormy_ | *Meta Emperor |
| 13:32.51 | OluapPlayer | Meta-Emperor - CATCH THIS |
| 13:33.23 | Ghelae | That would be another way of doing it, yes. |
| 13:33.50 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11060930_658334924299692_453738922766689972_n.png?oh=a67bae748a497dd702d90b8a9ab950d0&oe=55EEB2C1 |
| 13:34.32 | OluapPlayer | Funny you mention this, because yesterday I was watching a documentary about what would happen if a neutron star collided with the Earth |
| 13:34.36 | Wormy_ | Actually I'm quite interested in that blog. I wonder whether civilisations advanced enough might want to engineer their own geology |
| 13:34.41 | AdmiralPanda_ | goat tower ftw |
| 13:35.00 | Hachiman | ayy |
| 13:35.25 | Wormy_ | The limiting factors are literally the huge masses of rock typically involved, and time |
| 13:38.12 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/1502284_649733755159809_5881817568707084908_o.png Oh wow |
| 13:38.41 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 13:41.04 | Wormy_ | Water would be very useful. If you could pump lots of water into a magma chamber, it will lower the melting point of the magma. And if you dehydrated the magma, it would become more viscous, with explosive gases that might speed up volcanism |
| 13:41.38 | Hachiman | So what would happen if a neutron star collided with the Earth? |
| 13:42.39 | Wormy_ | We would be dead before its hits |
| 13:42.41 | OluapPlayer | According to the documentary, the planet would practically melt |
| 13:42.57 | OluapPlayer | Yes, it would happen before the star physically hits |
| 13:43.25 | OluapPlayer | The atmosphere would be destroyed, the crust would melt and the core would be launched upward sinto space |
| 13:43.27 | OluapPlayer | upwards |
| 13:43.47 | OluapPlayer | Earth's remains would either fall into the star or turn into an asteroid belt around it |
| 13:43.53 | Wormy_ | Hm, giant gravitational tractor b eams would make a very useful planetary sculptor |
| 13:45.15 | OluapPlayer | The documentary was about making a spaceship which would save a few million people at most in 75 years time in order to save part of humanity |
| 13:45.47 | OluapPlayer | They suggested using nuclear bombs to propel the spaceship forward as a way of going faster than our current tech allows |
| 13:46.55 | Hachiman | Literally Allah Ackbar ourselves into space |
| 13:47.19 | Ghelae | Yes, that is an idea that has been suggested. The chemical propulsion we currently use is really inefficient; the only reason we haven't already launched nuke-powered spaceships decades ago is because people think "aaah nukes scary". |
| 13:48.30 | OluapPlayer | Other suggestions were using solar panels and antimatter, but the former would become more ineffective the farther we got from the Sun and the latter is too dangerous |
| 13:49.04 | OluapPlayer | What baffles me is that the ark spaceship managed to arrive to another inhabitable planet in 80 years |
| 13:49.19 | OluapPlayer | Wouldn't it take like a million years just to get to Alpha Centauri? |
| 13:50.15 | Hachiman | Several thousand in the absence of FTL technology I believe |
| 13:50.53 | Ghelae | Alpha Centauri is less than five light years away, so that's the minimum time to arrive going slower than light. |
| 13:51.06 | Ghelae | Thousands of years... again, is a result of our inefficient chemical rockets. |
| 13:51.07 | OluapPlayer | iirc the ackbar-ship was going at 7% of the speed of light |
| 13:51.44 | Ghelae | So that's about 14.3 years to travel one light-year. |
| 13:52.12 | Wormy_ | I believe it was calculated that an Orion spaceship could reach 10% of the speed of light |
| 13:52.26 | Ghelae | 0.07c for 80 years would get you 5.6 ly. |
| 13:52.34 | OluapPlayer | Orion spaceship |
| 13:52.34 | Wormy_ | That might give some marginal time dilation |
| 13:52.39 | OluapPlayer | That was mentioned in the documentary |
| 13:52.52 | OluapPlayer | Actually I think that's how the nuke ship was called |
| 13:53.07 | Ghelae | Wormy_: The Lorentz factor at 0.1c is 1.005. |
| 13:53.14 | OluapPlayer | I don't remember too many details because it was 00:00am and I was tired |
| 13:53.20 | Wormy_ | Its sad we don't use our nuclear arsenal for spacecraft propulsion |
| 13:53.21 | Ghelae | "Marginal" is overstating it. |
| 13:54.25 | Wormy_ | OluapPlayer: The original Rion ship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGE-WRqgPRE |
| 13:54.27 | Wormy_ | Orion |
| 13:56.18 | Wormy_ | Carl Sagan states Alpoha Centauri has a trip time of 45 years |
| 13:56.28 | Wormy_ | I assume he has used similar calculations |
| 13:56.56 | OluapPlayer | I didn't know we had this kind of potential |
| 13:57.14 | Wormy_ | Though he states time dilation wasn't an important effect |
| 13:57.22 | OluapPlayer | If we used nukes to propel our ships we wouldn't need 6 months to get to Mars |
| 13:58.03 | Hachiman | Nuclear energy is, currently, our most efficient source of energy besides solar energy |
| 13:58.13 | Hachiman | But so little people utilise the potential of nuclear energy because of negative publicity |
| 13:58.37 | Hachiman | Plus it would put electricity corporations out of business |
| 13:58.52 | OluapPlayer | This would be an opportunity to show nuclear energy isn't entirely harmful |
| 13:59.00 | OluapPlayer | Use it to expand humanity rather than destroy it |
| 14:00.40 | Wormy_ | This is the optimism epistemology gives me |
| 14:01.23 | Hachiman | Also I was unaware that there has been a signed treaty prohibiting the act of detonating nuclear weaponry in space |
| 14:01.38 | Hachiman | Although I suppose it makes sense |
| 14:02.16 | Wormy_ | It makes sense if they are permitted only at a distance from the Earth |
| 14:02.52 | Hachiman | That reminds me of a plot point that was brought up in one of the recent Call of Duty games, surprisingly |
| 14:02.58 | Wormy_ | Nuclear weapons have actually been detonated in the upper atmosphere (pretty much space) |
| 14:03.36 | Wormy_ | It can cause sacrificial aurorae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion |
| 14:03.38 | Hachiman | Some terrorist organisation hijacked a space station in Earth's orbit and utilised metallic rods to attack targeted locations rather than nuclear weaponry |
| 14:03.41 | Wormy_ | *artificial |
| 14:04.32 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKvvrNrCOnw |
| 14:05.03 | OluapPlayer | Crash space stations into the Earth for the ultimate ALLAH ACKBAR |
| 14:05.46 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11173390_638676052932246_189633349847846204_n.jpg?oh=b0bb874da2fb848157afeb46cc194305&oe=56311FDD |
| 14:06.26 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 14:08.02 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11167685_637979966335188_5772797820942512150_n.jpg?oh=39eeee70a40d263cdff6d25ab811b1d5&oe=55EF68F8 |
| 14:08.54 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11029476_624740490992469_7577958745906808542_n.jpg?oh=cf92cb88282aeb9ec3dc000838dbd197&oe=55E6C583 My sides |
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| 14:12.54 | LuxorPL | Hey everyone |
| 14:13.18 | LuxorPL | ...and goodbye! |
| 14:14.31 | OluapPlayer | Well alright then |
| 15:03.48 | Technobliterator | wat |
| 15:19.10 | Technobliterator | Well, the States now legalised gay marriage |
| 15:19.15 | Technobliterator | This is great news |
| 15:24.09 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 15:25.07 | Hachiman | Cool |
| 15:25.51 | Technobliterator | I just want them to end police brutality and I'll consider them not backwards thinking fucks |
| 15:27.45 | Hachiman | How about promoting nuclear energy and not privatizing medical services |
| 15:28.17 | Hachiman | Oh and lifting the ban on fucking KINDER EGGS |
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| 15:29.19 | Wormy_ | They need a nationalised healthcare system. Not just because of the expense of medical procedures there, but also because of antibiotic resistance. It is better to have hospitals working together with a special set of procedures. Some Northern European countries have cut down on deaths by antibiotic resistantant infections this way. |
| 15:32.48 | Wormy_ | Hospitals work better as as united front imo |
| 15:33.27 | Hachiman | Aye of course |
| 15:33.50 | OluapPlayer | >kinder eggs |
| 15:33.54 | OluapPlayer | What the hell? |
| 15:35.12 | Hachiman | The USA prohibited the importation and distribution of Kinder Eggs because children choked on the toys inside of them via eating them whole |
| 15:35.34 | Hachiman | Serves them right for being greedy fucks |
| 15:36.04 | OluapPlayer | That's the parents's fault for letting a kid eat a whole kinder egg whole |
| 15:36.08 | Wormy_ | Or for being bought them too young |
| 15:37.00 | OluapPlayer | whole whole |
| 15:44.03 | Hachiman | brb |
| 15:45.18 | Technobliterator | I dislike nuclear energy, but honestly |
| 15:45.32 | Technobliterator | I think police brutality is a much worse issue |
| 15:46.41 | Imperios | WHo said Allahu Akbar |
| 15:47.07 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Legalise gay marriage? You mean in all of the states? |
| 15:47.16 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 15:47.21 | Imperios | I thought that was only planned |
| 15:47.33 | Wormy_ | I'm all for nuclear fusion research |
| 15:48.01 | Imperios | I remember seeing that on a Russian news website |
| 15:48.08 | Technobliterator | Fusion research, sure |
| 15:48.14 | Technobliterator | It's fission I'm wary of |
| 15:48.34 | Imperios | The headline was "Clinton plans to flood the United Stated with duos of homosexuals" |
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| 15:49.11 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 15:49.23 | Monet | Hi |
| 15:50.01 | Hachiman | >Despises backwards thinking >Claims nuclear energy is always bad |
| 15:50.09 | Hachiman | Hai Mon |
| 15:50.34 | Technobliterator | >Claims disliking unclean and dangerous energy is backwards thinking |
| 15:50.49 | Hachiman | But you are wrong when you say it is unclean |
| 15:51.30 | Hachiman | Nuclear energy is beneficial for the environment if anything |
| 15:52.11 | Monet | The only uncleanliness is the radioactive waste. Which, in fairness, does less damage to the environment and the planet than the greenhouse gases emitted by burning coal, oil and natural gas |
| 15:52.28 | Technobliterator | Compared to police brutality, this is a very small issue |
| 15:52.50 | Monet | Okay I'm lost |
| 15:53.06 | Hachiman | We were on the topic of the US officially legalizing homosexual marriage in all states |
| 15:53.24 | Monet | Oh I see |
| 15:53.27 | Technobliterator | And how it's a step in the right direction for the States to actually enter the 21st century |
| 15:53.42 | Technobliterator | I said that now all they need to do is end police brutality against black people |
| 15:53.42 | Hachiman | And the topic moved to other issues that the US currently suffers from, such as privatized health services, police brutality, and stigma built against nuclear energy |
| 15:54.08 | Technobliterator | Privatized health service is an issue, but Obamacare is a step closer towards it |
| 15:54.10 | Technobliterator | baby steps |
| 15:54.11 | Hachiman | Oh and the prohibition of the distribution of Kinder Eggs |
| 15:54.19 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Well I don't think one should blame them |
| 15:54.25 | Hachiman | Except everyone despises Obamacare for some reason |
| 15:54.32 | Imperios | ^ That I never understood |
| 15:54.41 | Imperios | Who in one's right mind would be against public healthcare |
| 15:54.41 | Hachiman | People are comparing Obama to Hitler for it and I never understood why |
| 15:54.46 | Wormy_ | To be honest, coal fired stations actually emit more radioactive particles into the atmosphere than nuclear power. I think most modern reactors are very safe provided they don't become targets of terrorism or are in disaster zones. |
| 15:54.47 | Imperios | Wait Hitler |
| 15:54.47 | Imperios | Why |
| 15:54.50 | Imperios | Why |
| 15:54.51 | Technobliterator | correction: the vocal minority of Republican voters despise Obamacare for it |
| 15:55.14 | Wormy_ | The difficulty is disposing nuclear waste however. There just isn't many solutions. |
| 15:55.32 | OluapPlayer | Throw them at the sun |
| 15:55.34 | OluapPlayer | hire me nasa |
| 15:55.34 | Wormy_ | Though nuclear fusion could help clean up spent fuel rods |
| 15:55.47 | Imperios | Please |
| 15:55.49 | Wormy_ | That's been proposed but too expensive I think |
| 15:55.55 | Technobliterator | Nuclear fusion research is a miles better investment |
| 15:55.59 | Imperios | Do explain me who in the right mind would reject public healthcare |
| 15:56.07 | Hachiman | Capitalists |
| 15:56.18 | Wormy_ | So was putting nuclear waste is subduction zones, but the radioactive water would only leak further away |
| 15:56.47 | Imperios | The only way public healthcare can be bad is that if it degenerates in quality so much that it is displaced by private healthcare almost completely |
| 15:56.53 | Hachiman | Nuclear energy is also far more renewable than fossil fuels which are currently used today |
| 15:56.55 | Technobliterator | Fuck capitalism |
| 15:56.55 | Imperios | Which is what happened in post-Soviet Russia |
| 15:57.20 | Imperios | waves the Soviet flafg |
| 15:57.22 | Imperios | *flag |
| 15:58.07 | Hachiman | Well reports of hospital examinations have been getting leaked into the British public as of late and many hospitals suffer from problems |
| 15:58.51 | Hachiman | People are still dying of conditions and causes in the 2000s that we have had solutions for since the 1980s and 90s |
| 15:58.52 | Imperios | Public hospitals or private hospitals |
| 15:58.57 | Hachiman | Public hospitals |
| 15:59.12 | Imperios | Ah so same problem as here |
| 15:59.20 | Hachiman | Plus for some reason British hospital staff have a tendency to be shit and abusive |
| 15:59.29 | Imperios | Shitty and underpaid public healthcare sector |
| 15:59.42 | Imperios | Was that ever since the Union fell |
| 16:01.38 | Wormy_ | Its a sorry state that the US has the worst infant mortality rate out of all the wealthiest nations. And it tends to be poorer families it happens to |
| 16:02.03 | Imperios | The USA has some good sides but honestly I'd prefer Europe over it any time |
| 16:02.04 | OluapPlayer | Public workers tend to be rude and abusive over here as well |
| 16:02.42 | Imperios | What I find even more problematic is that a lot of American politicians believe their system to be perfect and their culture exceptional |
| 16:02.46 | Imperios | which is always a bad thing |
| 16:02.55 | Technobliterator | Republicans in particular |
| 16:03.08 | Wormy_ | American universities are getting more and more foreign students who go back to work in their own countries. And American students have dropped |
| 16:03.08 | Hachiman | Many governments consist of old men however |
| 16:03.32 | Technobliterator | It's just racism in the States that I really, really don't care for |
| 16:03.33 | Hachiman | Men who were born and raised into different societies by comparison to now |
| 16:03.40 | Technobliterator | the other things are mostly just differences in views |
| 16:03.52 | Technobliterator | Gun laws? Ehhhhh |
| 16:04.05 | Hachiman | Yeah gun laws are dumb |
| 16:04.06 | Imperios | Gun laws is in their culture honestly |
| 16:04.09 | Hachiman | Just prohibit guns |
| 16:04.12 | Imperios | It's in their blood |
| 16:04.25 | Imperios | *Using guns |
| 16:04.33 | Hachiman | Imperios: Their blood is our blood and we can tell you public access to guns is a negative thing hur |
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| 16:04.54 | Hachiman | spuh |
| 16:04.58 | Xho | u |
| 16:05.00 | Technobliterator | It's not nearly as simple as that |
| 16:05.04 | Technobliterator | hi spu |
| 16:05.15 | Imperios | True but cowboys and all |
| 16:05.17 | OluapPlayer | spa |
| 16:05.19 | Imperios | Hi Xho |
| 16:05.29 | Hachiman | Imperios: You mean bandits hur |
| 16:05.39 | Imperios | Well yeah, Americans are trigger-crazy for guns |
| 16:05.39 | Technobliterator | Just test every policeman in the States for racism and fire them then put them on death row |
| 16:05.41 | Technobliterator | :) |
| 16:05.48 | Imperios | Technobliterator: And Democrats from what I've heard are often criticised for apparently betraying American values and culture |
| 16:05.55 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 16:05.56 | Hachiman | And the era of the Frontier and the Wild West is very heavily romanticized |
| 16:06.14 | Hachiman | Like how Western interpretations of Japan are heavily romanticized |
| 16:06.21 | Wormy_ | I do find it an annoying myth that you can't get guns at all here. Well, welcome to Notts lo https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3016/2836064966_f9611eb6aa.jpg |
| 16:06.22 | Imperios | It is funny because our liberals are often criticised for betraying Russian culture and serving as agents of American values |
| 16:06.24 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 16:07.24 | Technobliterator | http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/its-legal-there#.tpmZM5VO9 |
| 16:07.28 | Technobliterator | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 16:07.35 | Wormy_ | My picture of the early 20th century is even romanticised |
| 16:08.10 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Why not move to us? |
| 16:08.34 | Imperios | I mean if you don't like gays that's where you ought to go |
| 16:08.35 | Hachiman | Becaused communists |
| 16:08.59 | Imperios | B-b-ut Russia is more capitalist than most of Europe now |
| 16:09.14 | Hachiman | Many backwards Americans are still under the impression that modern Russia continues to pertain towards communist values |
| 16:09.28 | Imperios | We're a fucking cyberpunk corporate state now hur |
| 16:09.31 | Wormy_ | Eh lets not be too mean about Americans. Most we've met here share the same opinions |
| 16:10.07 | Wormy_ | I think many don't their politicians |
| 16:10.09 | Technobliterator | other than No Offense, that is |
| 16:10.18 | Technobliterator | He was an...odd one |
| 16:10.21 | Hachiman | One guy my friend knows on Facebook tried to make an anti-government status on his wall and complained about how the British government is made up of *communists* |
| 16:10.31 | Hachiman | Like I know our government is bad but they are anything *but* communists |
| 16:10.31 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 16:10.36 | Imperios | Tovarisch Hachimanov |
| 16:10.49 | Technobliterator | I think our government is more fucked than the States |
| 16:11.07 | Wormy_ | MasterMachine says he is a patriot but I can't tell how serious he is |
| 16:11.07 | Technobliterator | At least they don't have a neo nazi party gaining millions of votes over there |
| 16:11.09 | Imperios | Our government is more fucked than all of your governments combined |
| 16:11.09 | Technobliterator | ._. |
| 16:11.11 | Imperios | Heil Putin |
| 16:11.26 | Technobliterator | eh |
| 16:11.27 | Imperios | That's actually funny because Putin's policies are *very* similar to what Republicans believe in |
| 16:11.32 | Technobliterator | China's government wins |
| 16:11.38 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: The KKK and official neo-Nazi groups are allowed the right to exist in the USA |
| 16:11.40 | Technobliterator | Actually, no |
| 16:11.49 | Technobliterator | The North Korean government exists |
| 16:12.11 | Technobliterator | well, yes, as are the Westboro Baptist Church |
| 16:12.15 | Imperios | And don't forget about Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's Caliphate if you count it as a state |
| 16:12.16 | Technobliterator | No one pays them any attention so it's ok |
| 16:13.06 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 16:14.02 | Imperios | Putin believes in traditional values, an emphasis on democracy but with little respect to dissidents, capitalism, vehement patriotism and independence, et cetera et cetera |
| 16:14.13 | Imperios | So basically Republican |
| 16:14.36 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 16:14.42 | Technobliterator | the Republicans are definitely capitalists |
| 16:14.58 | Imperios | No I mean |
| 16:15.50 | Imperios | Traditional values + emphasis coupled with little respect to dissidents + capitalism + asserting independence from foreign influences + jingoism |
| 16:16.08 | Hachiman | >jingoism |
| 16:16.10 | Hachiman | What's that? |
| 16:16.15 | Imperios | *democracy coupled with |
| 16:16.35 | Imperios | Hachiman: 'MUHRICA FUCK YEAH kind of patriotism |
| 16:16.41 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 16:16.47 | Imperios | We call it "kvass patriotism" or "vatnik patriotism" in Russia |
| 16:16.48 | Hachiman | So the cancerous type of patriotism |
| 16:17.03 | Technobliterator | If you ask me, all patriotism is cancerous |
| 16:17.18 | Technobliterator | "My country is the best because I was born in it" |
| 16:18.51 | Hachiman | We need more patriots like Senator Armstrong; men who are patriotic to the people and state of their country and acknowledge that its political and social issues need to be fixed and reformed |
| 16:19.16 | Imperios | Technobliterator: That's what you call a vatnik |
| 16:19.21 | Imperios | I am talking abotu actual patriotism |
| 16:20.03 | Hachiman | inb4 Armstrong did nothing wrong |
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| 16:20.35 | Xho | Only the Koreans know peace from this evil |
| 16:21.23 | Imperios | No we don't |
| 16:21.37 | Xho | ur russian stahp dis |
| 16:22.02 | Imperios | ur british |
| 16:22.20 | Imperios | Speaking of Asians |
| 16:22.52 | Imperios | There is that club in my city that serves parties for Asians only and I've been invited to it a few times already |
| 16:23.05 | Imperios | I actually wonder if that kind of club is kinda racist by its idea |
| 16:23.20 | Hachiman | That is like saying gay bars are heterophobic |
| 16:23.49 | Xho | Why does nothing work |
| 16:24.06 | Imperios | ...True |
| 16:24.13 | Hachiman | I have always wondered how subjectively *gay* gay bars actually are by comparison to how they are portrayed in media |
| 16:25.17 | Hachiman | Maybe I should look up my nearest gay bar and see if they are flanderized or misrepresented on television by comparison to real life |
| 16:25.41 | Imperios | You'd fit right in hur |
| 16:25.46 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 16:26.08 | Hachiman | fuk off bishi boy |
| 16:27.07 | Xho | Anyway I had this idea for the Fantasyverse |
| 16:27.07 | Xho | Wow even the IRC is lagging |
| 16:27.07 | Xho | Basically it's an A - Z codex of everything in it |
| 16:27.07 | Xho | I wonder if it's time to get a new PC |
| 16:27.07 | Xho | Anger |
| 16:27.07 | Xho | So much anger |
| 16:27.27 | Xho | The IRC only updates every time I type something in |
| 16:27.35 | Xho | That's how bad it's getting |
| 16:28.08 | Imperios | Speaking of which I think I'm going to get a new videocard |
| 16:28.32 | Xho | Right so I think it sorted itself out for the time being |
| 16:28.33 | Hachiman | I am hoping to get myself a new GUI by the end of this year |
| 16:28.39 | OluapPlayer | Maybe you should try refreshing the page |
| 16:28.40 | Imperios | Something relatively cheap but also good enough to run relatively new games |
| 16:28.52 | Xho | OluapPlayer: u dunt think i tried dat u skrub |
| 16:29.09 | OluapPlayer | I don't that's why I'm suggesting it |
| 16:29.14 | Xho | oh |
| 16:29.15 | Xho | rite |
| 16:29.32 | Xho | Anyway this is an exceptionally powerful computer so I don't know why it's not getting off its lazy ass and do something |
| 16:29.50 | Hachiman | "I'm afraid I can't let you do that." |
| 16:30.08 | Xho | That's exactly how it's behaving |
| 16:30.33 | Imperios | Can anyone suggest me a relatively cheap but good-working videocard? |
| 16:31.01 | OluapPlayer | You're not going to find a card that's both cheap and can run new games |
| 16:31.36 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/gpu/AMD+Radeon+R9+280/review |
| 16:32.02 | Imperios | I do not really play new games |
| 16:32.49 | OluapPlayer | You said you wanted a card good enough to run new games |
| 16:32.54 | OluapPlayer | Make up your mind |
| 16:33.26 | Xho | Get a Radeon card -> shoves a Radeon into the computer |
| 16:33.36 | Imperios | Hence *relatively* |
| 16:33.48 | Technobliterator | uh, relatively would imply they're new |
| 16:33.54 | Imperios | Relatively as 2012-2014 |
| 16:34.24 | Hachiman | The current GUI I use costs £50 and it is crap at playing more modernised games beyond their minimal settings |
| 16:34.34 | Hachiman | Hell it is crap at playing modern games ON their minimal settings |
| 16:34.46 | Technobliterator | Well, that's not very specific, in the sense that you could technically get a card which could run games and not run them very well |
| 16:35.07 | Hachiman | Then again it came with the CPU and is optimized more towards videos than it is games |
| 16:35.43 | Imperios | Hm |
| 16:35.56 | Imperios | Is the Arkham series very straining on a computer? |
| 16:36.06 | Hachiman | I imagine so |
| 16:36.18 | Hachiman | The FPS is terrible from what I know even on optimized computers hur |
| 16:38.37 | Xho | "Mostly Negative (10,563 reviews)" |
| 16:38.41 | Xho | Wouldn't get it on PC tbh |
| 16:39.15 | Xho | About 30 fps apparently |
| 16:40.07 | Xho | So unless you have like a 32 GB RAM computer with a 4.0 GHz processor and god knows what kind of graphics card you're not gonna get a good experience out of it |
| 16:40.13 | Xho | And apparently it's horrifically ported |
| 16:40.20 | Wormy_ | Imagines a Radeon wheel running in acomputer |
| 16:42.56 | Wormy_ | Anyway, this is why I'm an an extremist vegetarian. I'm not morally any better http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659 |
| 16:43.05 | Wormy_ | *I'm NOT |
| 16:43.35 | Wormy_ | crawls into a small hole |
| 16:44.11 | Hachiman | I do not get vegetarians |
| 16:44.24 | Hachiman | Or at least extremist vegetarians and vegans |
| 16:44.26 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.15 | Hachiman | Plus people who try and support PETA are retarded |
| 16:45.30 | Wormy_ | The thing is, wheat, soya and other cropland can be extremely damaging |
| 16:45.44 | Hachiman | Considering PETA in itself has performed very controversial and questionable activities |
| 16:46.45 | Wormy_ | I don't like industrialised animal slaughter. I think animals should be more free range. Maybe it would be more expensive but at the same time, proper animal fioelds can support more biiodiversity |
| 16:47.02 | Wormy_ | I don't like PETA for their ideological killing of animals |
| 16:47.30 | Wormy_ | The slaughter of puppies and kittens which they don't allow to be rehomed |
| 16:48.10 | Wormy_ | I'd rather donate to Dog'#s Trust who don't put healthy dogs down. |
| 16:49.26 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 16:49.39 | Xho | I went to Dog's Trust once |
| 16:49.49 | Xho | All the dogs had massively erratic behaviour |
| 16:50.37 | Wormy_ | That's just about any dog home |
| 16:50.49 | Xho | Also it really bothers me there's no pyramid piece in Spore's spaceship editor |
| 16:51.41 | Wormy_ | Aye, I have had that problem. Though download my Goa'uld Ha'Tak and deconstruct it |
| 16:52.44 | Wormy_ | I managed to pull it off... Sort of http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Wormulon%7C2267110959%3Asast-500990069987 |
| 16:53.50 | Xho | Ah I see |
| 16:54.13 | Wormy_ | Some people have gone one step better http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-+tags%24%22hatak%22%3Aidx-20%3Afl-NEWEST |
| 16:55.47 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpHw0mLA1Vo |
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| 17:01.27 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 17:01.49 | OluapPlayer | ~kill Cyrannian |
| 17:01.50 | infobot | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-electron gun at Cyrannian |
| 17:02.04 | Cyrannian | ~tackle OluapPlayer |
| 17:02.04 | infobot | ACTION tackles OluapPlayer to the ground. |
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| 17:26.59 | Xho | Hm what to call this thing |
| 17:27.13 | OluapPlayer | wat thing |
| 17:27.13 | Xho | Basically a giant scary pyramid-shaped thing that's very scary |
| 17:27.28 | OluapPlayer | ur pyramid-shaped |
| 17:27.34 | Xho | Eh you know that giant floating fortress idea I had, I decided to make it pseudo-canon |
| 17:27.51 | Wormy_ | I pick a theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zso2Vo5mksI |
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| 17:28.40 | MonetAway | I came up with floating rock castles/cities first. |
| 17:28.45 | Xho | dam u |
| 17:28.52 | Xho | Yeah but this is from the void hur |
| 17:29.18 | Xho | I took a bit of Necron inspiration and said that they were imprisoned by brainwashed/tortured souls of Phoenixes |
| 17:29.29 | Xho | Imprisoned |
| 17:29.31 | Xho | Powered I meant |
| 17:30.03 | Xho | Which then really rustled Kinmo's jimmies and then Captain Planet/Isiris and Co. destroyed them all not long after |
| 17:30.31 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - i am heart |
| 17:30.44 | Xho | Kinmo - gods help us |
| 17:31.14 | Xho | But they kept being sent to the surface because Caligaduro's Tower (which was basically a massive sorcerer tower that could conjure abominations to the surface) was active |
| 17:31.28 | Xho | So they pushed it to the ground and so they were completely wiped from existencec |
| 17:31.31 | Xho | existence* |
| 17:31.39 | Hachiman | I was considering growing my beard and tache out rather than keeping it as mild as it is |
| 17:31.52 | Hachiman | To go with the long hair |
| 17:31.56 | Xho | metal |
| 17:32.18 | OluapPlayer | Now your hobo outfit will look even more authentic |
| 17:32.18 | Xho | But I dunno what to call these Void Siege Engines |
| 17:32.27 | Hachiman | Void Siege Engines |
| 17:32.33 | Xho | I could call them 'Void Engines' I guess but it doesn't sound as ominous |
| 17:33.30 | Hachiman | "Null Engines", "Void Instruments", "Engines of Negation" |
| 17:33.34 | Xho | Hm |
| 17:34.16 | OluapPlayer | Void Eye-Poker |
| 17:34.26 | Xho | Caligaduro - poke Kinmo - fuck |
| 17:35.32 | Xho | Oblivion Engines |
| 17:35.34 | Xho | That works |
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| 17:36.54 | Xho | But yeah they were powered by phoenix souls that were sent to the void and basically tortured into crazed hollow spirits by Caligaduro |
| 17:37.10 | dino82_ | hellowz all! |
| 17:37.26 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino |
| 17:37.32 | dino82_ | :D |
| 17:38.34 | Xho | It may have been the reason behind the destruction of the Phoenixes |
| 17:38.52 | Xho | So that Caligaduro could create a force powerful and numerous enough to make Koldenwelt and beyond submit |
| 17:39.19 | OluapPlayer | dats wat smeevers are 4 |
| 17:39.26 | Hachiman | Crux - just do what i do FUCKING SOCKS |
| 17:39.33 | Xho | Of course it didn't go so well to plan since Caligaduro wasn't expecting the Phoenixes to resist complete mental destruction as they did |
| 17:39.59 | Xho | If they didn't do it Caligaduro probably would have created tens of thousands of Oblivion Engines but as far as history recalls only 20 or so were created |
| 17:40.36 | Xho | Caligaduro is intelligent but also very arrogant and ignorant |
| 17:40.42 | Xho | Like me come to think of it |
| 17:41.11 | OluapPlayer | but ur not |
| 17:41.13 | OluapPlayer | intelligent |
| 17:41.43 | Xho | aw |
| 17:45.11 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/38/OblivionEngine.png/revision/latest?cb=20150626174453 And there we go |
| 17:46.56 | OluapPlayer | <> |
| 17:47.38 | Hachiman | Looks like two spaceships rear-ending one another |
| 17:48.07 | Xho | That's just your hentaimagination |
| 17:48.39 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 17:49.24 | Xho | The Void-Hollowed Phoenixes were encased in a sphere and were labelled as a Colossal Void Matrix |
| 17:50.00 | Hachiman | Xho OluapPlayer Wormy_: https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/1447590678597320/?pnref=story |
| 17:50.07 | Xho | Only two survive, one being the buried Colossal Void Matrix under Avkhamasaarkon and the one currently in Mitaarek |
| 17:50.23 | Xho | Because of Caligaduro's imprisonment both of them are weakened beyond any significant use |
| 17:50.43 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Words of a spiritual leader |
| 17:50.53 | OluapPlayer | Page won't load |
| 17:51.03 | Xho | Though Mitaarek's one is active enough to the point where if Akharav had entered the fortress he would have been obliterated in seconds |
| 17:51.24 | Xho | "Homosexual-robot Morgan Freeman* reads out Pakalu Papito tweets." |
| 17:52.19 | Xho | I'd like to know the music in that |
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| 17:54.42 | Xho | The one under Avkhamasaarkon's (Caligaduro's Tower) ruins is more or less still reeling over the fact that the Void Fortress it inhabited now lays scattered across Abyssus in ruins |
| 17:55.57 | Xho | Couldn't imagine the level of destruction that tower would have caused when it fell over |
| 17:56.13 | Xho | inb4 someone says "3 feet" |
| 17:56.18 | OluapPlayer | 2 feet |
| 17:56.20 | Xho | NOOOH |
| 17:57.12 | Xho | It probably would have caked Koldenwelt in a blackened sky for a few centuries |
| 17:58.39 | OluapPlayer | Xitannoth - get ur own job |
| 17:58.50 | Xho | Soldalatel - kek |
| 17:58.53 | Hachiman_ | Oevrumine - git unemployed |
| 17:59.15 | OluapPlayer | Xitannoth - shup cow |
| 17:59.40 | Hachiman_ | Oevrumine - MOO |
| 18:00.21 | Xho | The tower in itself probably would have stretched into space to vacuum up universal energies for its grorious war machine |
| 18:00.37 | Xho | Or very nearly |
| 18:00.51 | Xho | Either way, it's no longer in space hur |
| 18:01.17 | Xho | More like in fifty thousand pieces across Abyssus' surface |
| 18:02.11 | Xho | It was 9/11: Isiris Akbar Edition |
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| 18:02.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Blargh |
| 18:03.04 | Xho | OluapPlayer_: [19:02] <Xho> It was 9/11: Isiris Akbar Edition |
| 18:03.21 | OluapPlayer_ | get blarghd |
| 18:03.42 | Xho | Soldalatel - dat was exactly wat caligaduro sed when i destroyed the tower |
| 18:03.54 | Xho | Well it was probably more of a combined effort to destroy that thing |
| 18:04.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Caligaduro - blarghin bird |
| 18:04.03 | Xho | It was Caligaduro's greatest architectural construction on Koldenwelt |
| 18:04.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Caligaduro - that costed money you dicks |
| 18:04.38 | Xho | "Your base has been destroyed" Caligaduro - FUCK |
| 18:05.32 | Xho | Doing a story of that would be cool I think |
| 18:05.56 | Xho | "The Day Caligaduro's Tower Stood Still: And Then Fell Over" |
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| 18:06.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Caligaduro - rude |
| 18:08.24 | Xho | Warfare in those days was probably something along the lines of destroying half the world every day |
| 18:09.33 | Xho | Well it evidently wasn't considering civilisation actually flourished then |
| 18:10.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Vargash - we just destroy the half not shown in maps |
| 18:10.32 | Xho | Caligaduro - at the end of the day it didn't count for much |
| 18:11.10 | Xho | It does make me wonder how much effort the Colossi probably went through to rebuild Koldenwelt the number of times the Chaosphere fucked it up |
| 18:11.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Goddamn am I bored |
| 18:11.59 | Xho | Hm |
| 18:12.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Nothing to do |
| 18:12.20 | Xho | I would do Wrath of Night but that depends on Imperios and if everyone's available for it |
| 18:12.29 | Imperios | I am available now |
| 18:12.29 | MonetAway | Imperios: You free for anything? |
| 18:12.31 | Imperios | 26 done |
| 18:12.35 | Imperios | I AM FREEE |
| 18:12.37 | Imperios | FREE FOREVER |
| 18:12.40 | MonetAway | WOOOOH |
| 18:12.41 | Imperios | until september that is |
| 18:12.53 | Xho | I'm not massively motivated for it atm but meh |
| 18:12.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Can do |
| 18:13.22 | Xho | alrighty |
| 18:13.45 | Xho | OluapPlayer_ Imperios Hachiman: https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 Time for rectal agony at the gods' expense |
| 18:14.01 | Technobliterator | where's drom when you need him |
| 18:14.03 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 18:14.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Every story in the setting in the nutshell |
| 18:14.07 | Technobliterator | Wormy_, are you any good at python? |
| 18:14.11 | OluapPlayer_ | in a* |
| 18:14.42 | Wormy_ | I don't know about good, but I've studied an introductory book in it |
| 18:15.25 | Wormy_ | So basic stuff |
| 18:15.52 | Technobliterator | Well, if you were presented with [random[test]][A[Hello World]], would you know how to get the A and Hello World from that? I can't remember |
| 18:15.52 | Wormy_ | Is there anything you want me to do with it? |
| 18:16.08 | Technobliterator | is working on a script but struggling |
| 18:16.37 | Wormy_ | I couldn't do it off by heart. That just isn't how my mind works, but give me a moment to play around yes |
| 18:17.48 | Wormy_ | Can you show me your script? |
| 18:18.58 | Technobliterator | I could, but |
| 18:19.02 | Technobliterator | it's complicated as heck |
| 18:19.27 | Technobliterator | Essentially, using page.templatesWithParams, this is meant to find the first parameter of template {{A}} |
| 18:19.57 | Technobliterator | where templatesWithParams() will create a list (the list of templates on a page), and then a sublist (the list of params of template A) |
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| 18:23.46 | dino82_ | bbl |
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| 18:27.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everybody |
| 18:28.49 | Wormy_ | Techno: Is it returning an error or are you not sure where to proceed? |
| 18:29.04 | Technobliterator | Not really sure where to start :p |
| 18:29.06 | Technobliterator | hi Drodo |
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| 18:29.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hey drom |
| 18:29.35 | drom | MonetAway Hachiman_ TekDroid: "ur fucked m8" http://i.imgur.com/xpUnn8n.jpg |
| 18:30.14 | drom | Hello Drodo |
| 18:30.28 | TekDroid | Canadian - You gun get rekt |
| 18:30.30 | MonetAway | Drom: Alien - E.T. dun boned |
| 18:30.45 | Wormy_ | Techno: I can write out a list for you, and give some methods. But I don't know how you make a list then a sublist |
| 18:31.14 | Wormy_ | Though not right away, right now I'm writing some geological info to the mineral blog |
| 18:31.26 | drom | Wormy_: Whatcha talkin' about? :o |
| 18:31.30 | Wormy_ | Python |
| 18:31.32 | Technobliterator | alright, I'll let check when you're free |
| 18:31.39 | Technobliterator | oh, drom may be able to help |
| 18:31.57 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 18:32.02 | drom | I don't know Python, but I am very experienced with programming, that includes coding and scripting so yeah. |
| 18:32.51 | Wormy_ | My programming is more limited to particular things like JavaScript functions or 3D scripts |
| 18:33.08 | Wormy_ | Since I wasn't properly taught it and had to learn it myself |
| 18:42.11 | Wormy_ | bbl, gonna watch Eastenders (XD) |
| 18:42.21 | Wormy_ | then I'll be back |
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| 18:46.01 | Spu | Hi |
| 18:46.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Spu: https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 git back here |
| 18:46.26 | Spu | Well I won't be able to go on Titanpad |
| 18:46.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Why? |
| 18:47.01 | Spu | I finally lost my temper and destroyed my computer monitor |
| 18:47.17 | Hachiman_ | What the fuck |
| 18:47.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh wow |
| 18:47.35 | Technobliterator | 0.0 |
| 18:48.41 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 18:49.30 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
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| 18:51.40 | Hachiman_ | I guess his PC monitor has become |
| 18:51.45 | Hachiman_ | Splinters of Broken Fate |
| 18:52.05 | OluapPlayer_ | FUcking |
| 18:52.55 | Technobliterator | In a way, that's kind of impressive |
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| 18:59.23 | Spu | Okay well |
| 18:59.31 | Spu | Luckily we have two computers in this house |
| 18:59.35 | Spu | So I'm using the peasant one |
| 18:59.46 | OluapPlayer_ | So are we continuing the rp or not |
| 18:59.52 | Spu | Can do, link me it |
| 19:00.00 | OluapPlayer_ | https://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 |
| 19:00.02 | drom | Spu: Do you mind showing us a pic of the monitor? |
| 19:00.12 | Spu | Drom: Already disconnected it |
| 19:00.50 | OluapPlayer_ | ~kick Hachiman_ |
| 19:00.51 | infobot | ACTION kicks Hachiman_ |
| 19:00.57 | drom | I see. |
| 19:02.09 | Spu | Oh fuck what |
| 19:02.12 | Spu | This computer is awful |
| 19:02.15 | Spu | Swarmed with malware |
| 19:03.23 | Spu | I can't get on to Titanpad |
| 19:03.28 | Spu | I am going to full on destroy something in a minute |
| 19:03.44 | Technobliterator | haven't you already done that |
| 19:03.46 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 19:04.11 | Spu | Well I dunno what's going on but Titanpad won't let me edit |
| 19:05.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Goddamnit |
| 19:05.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah forget it |
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| 19:05.57 | ImpyDroid | drom: http://i.imgur.com/47zAzGX.png |
| 19:09.45 | Spu | Oh okay now my Titanpad works |
| 19:09.59 | Spu | Stupid fucking tentacle rape mutilation fetish FUCK |
| 19:10.26 | drom | ImpyDroid: http://www.maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Svensk-demokratiexport.jpg "Here you go! Just promise that you will become more democratic." |
| 19:10.54 | ImpyDroid | JUMHURIYA AKBAAAAAR |
| 19:11.57 | ImpyDroid | Spu: Sorry I'm on a treadmill can't use titanpad, can we move to irc temporarily |
| 19:12.53 | Spu | fien |
| 19:12.55 | drom | Spu: Actually meant the current state of the monitor you destroyed. Or is it already in the trash bin? |
| 19:12.59 | Spu | Oh |
| 19:13.00 | Spu | Well |
| 19:13.15 | Spu | Think of Agent Smith attacking the Matrix and it looks like it's totally fucked up |
| 19:13.19 | Spu | That's what it looks like |
| 19:14.23 | drom | ImpyDroid: http://www.maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Svensk-kapprustning.jpg The Swedish sign says "NATO-training in progress" |
| 19:15.46 | Spu | Okay I can't deal with this computer |
| 19:16.03 | Spu | It's making me even more enraged than my other one |
| 19:21.09 | drom | http://maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Joke57.jpg |
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| 19:23.25 | balisticflame | um |
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| 19:26.53 | balisticflame | anyone active |
| 19:27.13 | drom | Yes |
| 19:27.22 | balisticflame | k |
| 19:28.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
| 19:28.16 | balisticflame | hello |
| 19:28.36 | drom | Wormy_: "Space tourism in 30 years" http://maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/dagenssamir490.jpg |
| 19:30.12 | *** part/#sporewiki balisticflame (48dd4453@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.221.68.83) |
| 19:34.10 | drom | Imperios: More satire about the long period when Sweden was run by a right-wing government. http://maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Swedish-health-care.jpg |
| 19:36.24 | Imperios | Alright I am back |
| 19:36.37 | Imperios | We can continue |
| 19:36.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho and Hachi are gone |
| 19:37.49 | Imperios | Oh |
| 19:38.02 | drom | Imperios: Moar Swedish satire in English http://maxgustafson.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Telia-om-diktatorn-sj%C3%A4lv-f%C3%A5r-v%C3%A4lja.jpg |
| 19:38.14 | MonetAway | If Oluap is up for it we could do that thing with Arsac. |
| 19:38.42 | Imperios | Tajiks |
| 19:38.48 | Imperios | Hiring someone to work for them |
| 19:38.53 | Imperios | That's like the Russian reversal |
| 19:39.17 | MonetAway | Can't help noticing how DIY the torture room is. |
| 19:39.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Alright I guess |
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| 19:50.18 | Wormy_ | I have come close to punching my monitor but always stopped short |
| 20:01.22 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Sesoka - The guy I'll be using in the SWBF |
| 20:01.51 | OluapPlayer_ | yey he exists again |
| 20:04.56 | OluapPlayer_ | I noticed he's green in this picture but gray in his PNG though |
| 20:05.41 | OluapPlayer_ | his picture* |
| 20:06.49 | Cyrannian | Oh yeah, I changed his colour in the captain editor, I'll reupload it |
| 20:07.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Sesoka is skintone-fluid |
| 20:08.57 | Cyrannian | I'm free now to if you are |
| 20:09.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Neato |
| 20:27.13 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Oooh Sesoka is back |
| 20:27.15 | Imperios | Yay |
| 20:28.03 | Cyrannian | Aye, I was going to have him join the New Republic but decided it would be more interesting to show that not all remnants of the URC have taken the peaceful path |
| 20:28.41 | Imperios | So space ISIS |
| 20:29.02 | Imperios | Okay not that radical |
| 20:29.03 | Imperios | Space DNR |
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| 20:30.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Sesoka - BOW BEFORE THE MIGHT OF DEMOCRACY |
| 20:32.03 | Imperios | I'd shout the takbir but people say I use it too often hur |
| 20:39.56 | drom | Imperios: https://i.imgur.com/8YXLyV5.webm |
| 20:40.23 | Hachiman_ | TAKBIR |
| 20:40.39 | drom | no |
| 20:41.11 | drom | stand right there, you muslism roskie with oil and education, let me freedomize the fuck out of you |
| 20:48.13 | Hachiman_ | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11665432_755793021199555_6308062920073936846_n.jpg?oh=dcd508e74b33a99cbf9eef4a30976ecf&oe=55EBE9FC "They see me droppin' rhymes, they HVIIIin'." |
| 20:49.46 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
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| 21:00.55 | Hachiman_ | "John Young developed a biblical case of the farts while standing on the friggin' moon. His sage words, âI have the farts again. I got them again, Charlieâ are immortalized in the Apollo 16 NASA transcript." |
| 21:01.53 | OluapPlayer_ | wat |
| 21:02.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hah |
| 21:04.09 | OluapPlayer_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_3#Help_from_the_Republic dinosaurus n shit |
| 21:09.18 | Cyrannian | check dat |
| 21:14.32 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 21:30.26 | OluapPlayer_ | http://i.4cdn.org/v/1435351317571.jpg |
| 21:34.53 | DrodoEmpire | odere |
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| 21:35.12 | Monet | Okay "Heroes" is getting on my nerves now. |
| 21:35.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 21:36.04 | Monet | Sweden's entry to this year's Eurovision. |
| 21:36.21 | Monet | It won and now i keep hearing it o nthe radio. |
| 21:36.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
| 21:38.15 | Monet | It sounds like the lead of 1 Direction trying to be Bon Jovi. |
| 21:38.51 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 21:40.00 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:14.43 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 22:14.52 | Hachiman | So I got my hair straightened for the first time in forever] |
| 22:15.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hey hachi |
| 22:24.53 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 22:29.45 | drom_ | Techno: Kick drom |
| 22:29.58 | Technobliterator | What did drom ever do :o |
| 22:30.00 | *** kick/#sporewiki [drom!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-zufknotzudxxvinz] by Technobliterator (drom) |
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| 22:31.11 | drom | Sorry for the inconvience, but apparently my client doubled itself and closed down the other without terminating it. |
| 22:32.26 | Wormy_ | I rarely get use my geology knowledge (except for Salsethe fiction), but finally http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:202081 |
| 22:32.37 | Wormy_ | I'm going to think about geoneineering tech now |
| 22:32.57 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator: Still need help with Python? |
| 22:33.31 | Wormy_ | Hopefully I got the maths right. I'm not the best at crunching numbers |
| 22:33.32 | Technobliterator | I think I've found a good (temp) solution, so I should be ok |
| 22:33.35 | Technobliterator | thanks for the offer though |
| 22:34.07 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/0BYr6ZB.gif |
| 22:53.11 | Tek0516 | ~test |
| 22:53.11 | infobot | rumour has it, test is not funny |
| 22:56.21 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (440538d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.5.56.212) |
| 22:57.19 | Monet | hi |
| 22:57.37 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 23:00.00 | drom | Hello |
| 23:00.12 | Tybusen | Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Argexantine_Warrior_Alliance/History#Scarlet_Era_.28819_SY_-_1112_SY.29 Did you ever get a chance to read this? |
| 23:00.17 | Tybusen | Hello drom |
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| 23:01.00 | Monet | Ah, no. |
| 23:01.02 | Monet | Hi |
| 23:01.05 | Aeo | Hi |
| 23:01.05 | drom | Designing a ship in 3D modelling application seems to be more difficult than Spore, yet more freedom. |
| 23:01.05 | Tybusen | Hello Aeo |
| 23:01.09 | Aeo | Hi |
| 23:01.18 | Aeo | does a happy dance. |
| 23:01.30 | Monet | drom: I'd wondered about using Maya for modelmaking for Sporewiki. |
| 23:01.35 | Tybusen | drom: I guess for one thing, you can have asymmetrical features in a 3D modelling program |
| 23:01.55 | Monet | The whole thing can als olook a lot smoother |
| 23:01.59 | drom | Yes you can, don't forget to turn off the mirror/symmertry first. |
| 23:02.13 | Aeo | I'm glad I got around to supporting gay marriage in time to be happy about it being legalized. |
| 23:02.29 | Tybusen | I imagine 3D modellers can produce higher quality models than Spore's creators |
| 23:02.36 | Tybusen | Aeo: Aye, today's a good day |
| 23:02.47 | drom | Yes. But the process is slow. |
| 23:02.57 | drom | It can take months to finish one single model. |
| 23:03.01 | Tybusen | Yikes |
| 23:03.26 | Monet | Depends on how complex the mdoel is really |
| 23:03.32 | Tybusen | I have some interest in learning 3D modelling but it seems to be a difficult process |
| 23:03.33 | drom | Yep. |
| 23:03.44 | Tybusen | Is it the shapes or the textures that tend to be the hardest parts? |
| 23:04.27 | drom | At start you'll find the shapes difficult. Then you'll find the texturing part difficult. |
| 23:04.33 | Tybusen | I'd imagine getting the shapes to be in the right place and form would be time-consuming |
| 23:04.43 | drom | I dislike UV mapping (it is required to give models textures). |
| 23:04.56 | Monet | THen there's making sure it smooths out alreight. |
| 23:04.59 | Tybusen | And at the same time I look at 3D textures and imagine it must be a nightmare figuring out how to texture models |
| 23:05.26 | Monet | Tybusen: 3D modellers use nets to make theri shapes. |
| 23:05.34 | Monet | make their textures, sorry |
| 23:05.44 | Tybusen | They're called meshes, right? |
| 23:05.53 | Tybusen | Or is the mesh the shape? |
| 23:05.59 | Monet | The mesh is the shape |
| 23:06.21 | Tybusen | Ah ah |
| 23:06.21 | Monet | The net is a flattened and spread-out version of the net |
| 23:06.33 | Tybusen | so like a wire mesh when you're working on a sculpture or something |
| 23:06.58 | Monet | That's the shape. |
| 23:07.03 | Tybusen | Yep |
| 23:07.15 | Monet | A net is like a cube that's been opened up and laid flat. |
| 23:07.34 | drom | Tybusen, have an example http://i.imgur.com/quzO2Qz.png |
| 23:07.40 | Tybusen | I can't imagine how it is to map a net to an irregular shape |
| 23:07.55 | Monet | Its not easy |
| 23:08.13 | Monet | Sometimes some face stretching with the net is involved |
| 23:08.41 | drom | That's why I hate doing the UV part |
| 23:09.05 | Tybusen | I wonder if anyone has developed some sort of program that lets you apply nets as if you're simply painting on the mesh |
| 23:09.22 | drom | Max and Blender do alreayd have these |
| 23:09.34 | Tybusen | Ah nice |
| 23:09.42 | drom | But it isn't efficient. |
| 23:09.48 | drom | Manual is usually the best. |
| 23:10.11 | drom | Tybuse: The model seen in my example is this: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/58/Nslongnade01.png/revision/latest?cb=20150515183909 |
| 23:10.13 | Tybusen | Those painting programs aren't top-notch yet, I guess |
| 23:10.41 | Tybusen | drom: Is that fully rendered or is that concept art? |
| 23:10.50 | drom | Fully rendered |
| 23:10.56 | Tybusen | Nic |
| 23:10.58 | Tybusen | Nice |
| 23:11.24 | drom | baby steps to a new ship model http://i.imgur.com/OPywNdt.png |
| 23:11.40 | Hachiman | Hai Aeo |
| 23:12.51 | Aeo | hi hachiman |
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| 23:20.09 | drom | Monet: Somehow it is easier to use AutoCAD over Max and Blender |
| 23:20.57 | Hachiman | muh baby |
| 23:21.05 | OluapPlayer | waa] |
| 23:21.12 | OluapPlayer | Tonight has been eventful |
| 23:21.27 | OluapPlayer | My blood pressure skyrocketed for some reason and I had to rest for an hour |
| 23:22.18 | Hachiman | Yes and you need to be more careful |
| 23:22.30 | Hachiman | cus i dun want u gettin hurt ;-; |
| 23:22.57 | OluapPlayer | where were you when oluap was kill |
| 23:23.12 | Hachiman | gettin muh long hair straightened |
| 23:23.14 | drom | Tachycardia |
| 23:23.24 | drom | ngh, these are scary |
| 23:23.52 | OluapPlayer | fukin hobo |
| 23:23.59 | Hachiman | My hair went from curly to straight as a Roman road |
| 23:24.55 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/an/1434267195670.jpg |
| 23:25.23 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:26.01 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/an/1434345052368.gif poot |
| 23:26.24 | Hachiman | Oh wow hur |
| 23:27.30 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11012592_1598648767050269_6563913771111851288_n.jpg?oh=5e620874fe34bd752ab9721f1ff938ca&oe=563034DE #EndFathersDay |
| 23:28.19 | OluapPlayer | no pls |
| 23:28.21 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/an/1435091640911.png |
| 23:28.58 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:29.26 | Hachiman | "100% child abuse is men. Good job i identify as myn" |
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| 23:29.33 | Primius | ey |
| 23:30.32 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Pax_Draconica I thought this was so important it deserved its own page |
| 23:32.27 | Primius | i want to work on the gxs |
| 23:32.35 | Primius | yknow |
| 23:32.41 | Primius | great xonexian schism |
| 23:32.50 | Monet | We know |
| 23:34.59 | Wormy_ | Tybusen: While its true one should start easy. It really depends what kind of 3D you want to do. Max and possibly Blender are popular in the game industry. Maya in animation |
| 23:35.12 | Wormy_ | I went the Maya route, which is long but fruitful in the end |
| 23:35.22 | Wormy_ | But use the others too |
| 23:36.18 | Tybusen | I have Blender installed on my computer but I figure I should get formal education in 3D modelling since I'm likely not going to be able to figure it out myself |
| 23:37.08 | Wormy_ | They will mostly like teach you with either, depending on the course |
| 23:37.20 | Wormy_ | either Autodesk software |
| 23:37.51 | Wormy_ | But maybe Blender could give you the hang of it before you start a course |
| 23:39.03 | Tybusen | AFAIK Maya seems to be the one used for educational purposes |
| 23:39.12 | Monet | It is |
| 23:40.28 | Wormy_ | I am biased but I will so go with Maya |
| 23:40.31 | Wormy_ | *say |
| 23:40.42 | Wormy_ | It is complicated, but thats because its good |
| 23:41.00 | Wormy_ | Overly simplified things are harder to use professionally |
| 23:41.21 | Wormy_ | It is what it is, a challenge |
| 23:41.54 | Wormy_ | Anyway yes, UV texturing, and its unforgiving errors are problematic |
| 23:55.25 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10406679_681467745331510_1572925462562694136_n.jpg?oh=c7b93b01b1a1f23d9d7d1627b6783115&oe=561E2EDC |
| 23:55.50 | Monet | Anyoen got suggestions for a top quote on Pax Draconica? |
| 23:56.25 | OfficerJackal_ | DrodoEmpire: You CAN unlock them though for a payment of $25 with the official "Extra Friends DLC Pack"! |
| 23:56.43 | DrodoEmpire | Basically |
| 23:57.32 | Tybusen | Monet: "Hey guys, look! Living in huts is contagious!" ~Colby Stevens |
| 23:59.09 | Monet | Tybusen: Draconis - I offensive am and I this find Draconis. |
