IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150624

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00:12.49OluapPlayerHi
00:12.57ExternalHello
00:13.15ExternalMonet: I tried another variant of the armor http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Koladras.png
00:13.22TekDroidO.O My registration is saying I can't take a compulsory course because I'm in the wrong degree.
00:13.42ExternalThat is intimidating
00:14.13Monet<PROTECTED>
00:14.37ExternalYep. The species wearing it are used for heavy duty stuff
00:15.58External"Like blowing up tanks"
00:20.09MonetHeavy armour for heavy-duty actionm
00:20.40External"GET THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY BEFORE I RUN YOU OVER"
00:21.37Monet"Looks you guys are caught against a wall AND I AM THE F***** WALL!"
00:22.35ExternalAye
00:31.22External"GET OUTTA MY WAY BEFORE I STEP ON YOU AND KILL                oh wait                     I stepped in something"
00:51.39Externaltest'
00:53.54MonetYou failed
00:54.17External#Agario has crappy admins
00:54.26ExternalSomeone posted a sexual link and nobody cared
00:55.08HachimanTo be fair
00:55.21HachimanWe kinda post a lot of NSFW stuff as well hur
00:55.30ExternalA gay porn site
00:55.37ExternalThat was what the person posted.
00:56.49MonetWe don't go that far.
00:57.00HachimanWe might
00:57.16OluapPlayerIf you want to be banned, sure
00:57.38ExternalYep.
00:57.39MonetI thought straight-up pornographic websites were a big no-no.
00:57.48ExternalI did too
00:58.01OluapPlayerThey are
00:58.12ExternalBut apparently that doesn't get you kicked and saying "Agor.io" does.
00:58.18External(don't search it)
00:58.20OluapPlayerThere's a difference between innuendo and porn
00:58.45ExternalA gay porn site with old men. That is what it was.
00:59.27MonetEwww OAPorn
01:00.02TekDroidO.o
01:00.18MonetDon't get me wrong some old peopel can look attractive in their advanced age.
01:00.48Hachimaninb4 Harrison Ford
01:00.52MonetJust not entirely keen on naked wrinkly bodies being arousing.
01:01.12TekDroidO.o
01:02.47HachimanHoly shit
01:02.51Externaldum agario irc admins
01:03.08HachimanThere is a show on TV and I saw this huge barbeque grill which can hold like 50+ chickens on it
01:03.10ExternalThe only one who would've done something was away
01:03.15ExternalHOLY
01:03.17ExternalSHIT
01:03.19ExternalI WANT ONE
01:03.47ExternalApparently speaking Spanish is also illegal on that channel.
01:03.48DrodoEmpireI'm pretty sure my brother anyway would kill for a grill like that. XD
01:03.50External-,-
01:06.36MonetHachiman: You're watching that, I'm watching a documentary on the rise and fall of Gaius Julius Caesar.
01:06.51ExternalMonet: I made another armor for the Racheara, but it didn't turn out as well as the other two. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Racheara_Plazith_League.png
01:07.04DrodoEmpireLooks alright to me
01:07.13HachimanI am watching an American show about a company that supposedly "illegally" repossesses cars for a living
01:07.18HachimanLizard Lick Towing
01:07.26DrodoEmpireI like the colour scheme
01:07.27MonetAh you're watching that
01:07.47MonetI have wondered about waching it a couple of times
01:07.56Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Koladras.png http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Admiral_Rictande.png these were the other two DrodoEmpire
01:08.03HachimanIt's redneck stuff really
01:08.13HachimanIt can be entertaining though
01:08.24DrodoEmpireOh those are nice
01:08.29Monet"redneck stuff"
01:09.02MonetFair enough
01:09.02DrodoEmpireHmph, of course I can find my pirated disc of Homeworld but not the damn discs for SC1 and Brood War. >.<
01:10.47ExternalOuch
01:11.50MonetOh wow.
01:11.51ExternalI like the color scheme on the Racheara armor but not the armor overall. It might appear better if it used the same scheme as the Rictande and Koladras' armors.
01:12.27MonetThe Senate was mad at Julius because he decided to return to the capital without disbanding his legion.
01:12.56HachimanExternal: Oh wow, I like that Plazith League bumblebee theme you have going on with the Racheara
01:13.38HachimanMonet: What was wrong with him not disbanding his legion?
01:14.16MonetHachiman: In principle he'd be returning to Rome with an army behind him.
01:14.23DrodoEmpire^
01:14.27DrodoEmpireBiig no-no
01:15.08MonetIt sounds weird but the senate was deathly paranoid of an armed coup.
01:15.13MonetAnd the rise of a tyrant
01:15.22HachimanFunny that, I wonder why
01:15.49DrodoEmpireWell really imagine if an army general today just waltzed into London or Ottawa with a fully-equipped army without authorization. :p
01:16.05DrodoEmpireIt'd stir quite the panic
01:17.05ExternalYep.
01:17.34MonetCan politicians really touch such a man who surrounds himself with osmething like that?
01:18.11DrodoEmpireNo, not at all. XD Unless the rest of the military intervenes then at that point the general in question is now the head-of-state and dictator.
01:18.39MonetJulius spent many years fighting in Gaul, away from the luxuries and safety of Rome.
01:19.08MonetHe came to realise just how corrupt and selfish the Roman aristocracy was.
01:19.11ExternalQhy are we talking about Ancient Rome?
01:19.29MonetExternal: Watching a docu-drama on Rome
01:19.36DrodoEmpireThough, probably not for long considering the nature of military dictatorships. As the old saying goes, bayonets are great to fight with, but they're uncomfortable to sit upon.
01:19.40Externalo
01:19.43MonetWell, is it a docu-drama if it has a narrator?
01:19.52DrodoEmpireI guess so
01:20.21DrodoEmpireI watched a documentary on the Qin Dynasty, it had a narrator but also a *lot* of live-action parts that told the story in a dramatic sort of way
01:20.30DrodoEmpireI'd say its a docu-drama of sorts
01:20.40DrodoEmpireA good one at that
01:20.41DrodoEmpire:p
01:20.52MonetHe could march his troops around Northern Italy.
01:21.13MonetThe Rubicon was significant because it marked Rome's northern border.
01:21.23Monet(the city, not the empire)
01:21.32DrodoEmpireYeah
01:22.10Monetthe Italian answer to the M25 I think
01:22.20MonetWell, amybe a little more
01:22.26Monetoutward
01:22.43ExternalHave you seen BattleBots? They make building robots far too dramatic
01:23.06DrodoEmpireThat show's been on for a while, has it not?
01:23.19ExternalNope
01:23.27ExternalCame on 2 days ago in the US
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01:24.07MonetActualyl looking at maps, M25 is the wrong analogy.
01:24.10OluapPlayerFucking internet
01:24.20DrodoEmpire...Nope, its been on since 2000. Its been rebooted now.
01:24.37ExternalOh
01:24.41Wormy_gamingI'm liking the NPC interactions in Fallout
01:24.48Wormy_gaminggoodnight
01:24.49ExternalWhich one
01:24.53MonetHeh, Pompey has just gone "fuk dis shit" when Julius was at Rome's gates. Julius had 10 legions, Pompey had a measly two at his command.
01:25.03ExternalDAMMIT  WORMY YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION
01:25.12External>:(
01:26.24MonetHe wa still willing to defend the people of Rome, but the city was abandoned.
01:29.36External>:  |
01:29.56Externaldumternet
01:36.40MonetOh dear.
01:37.09MonetThe documentary has Marcus Marcellus goading Pompey Magnus to attack Julius.
01:37.46MonetMarcus believed Pompey was wasting time as he was on the Senate's payroll
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01:39.33MonetPompey has been goaded into a battle by a bunch of old men who know jack about waging a campaign.
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01:42.38ExternalOluapPlayer: u got bad dumternet
01:44.07ExternalHachiman: https://www.facebook.com/soundsofkoyote/videos/747775838617787/
01:45.11HachimanEh
01:45.15HachimanI've seen better headbanging
01:47.18MonetFrom what I understand now, Julius Caesar's career was basically a war with the senate.
01:47.33DrodoEmpireI should draw a Drodo cavalryman in a ridiculously-ornate uniform tomorrow. :p
01:48.38Monet48BC-44BC
01:52.11DrodoEmpirehttp://www.planetfigure.com/attachments/crbst_632-633-698_ancien0-jpg.134710/ - Something like this.
01:53.14MonetHussars certainly knew how to look good
01:53.15DrodoEmpireI *really* like the look of the sabretache and pelisse. :p My favourite parts of drawing that sort of stuff is drawing the sword hanging low from the belt, dunno why.
01:54.30DrodoEmpireAlong with the jackets, etc.
01:54.52Externalhttp://i.imgur.com/d2sJHAd.png
01:55.25Externalhttp://i.imgur.com/1kSoiq4.png
01:55.34DrodoEmpireteehee
01:55.35DrodoEmpire:p
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01:58.08Externalhttp://imgur.com/zRg0XCN I remember this Civilization 5 game. Now I dominate the entire map, and America is my only threat
01:58.13ExternalALL HAIL THE BABYLONIANS
01:59.06HachimanI remember that there were these ancient cavalry units who wore wings on their armour
01:59.13HachimanCannot remember what they were called now
01:59.20Liquid_InkHassars?
01:59.20DrodoEmpirePolish Winged Hussars
01:59.25HachimanThat's it
01:59.33DrodoEmpireEasily some of the best cavalry of all time
01:59.45DrodoEmpireWith *perhaps* the exception of the Mongols.
02:00.35DrodoEmpireConsidering they led the largest cavalry charge in human history, and frequently beat more diverse armies larger than their own. :p
02:00.59ExternalThese guys? https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0hfI3OU1-Y_xY20YQRnsYsQXKra5d4-yvUFCEMCp8iYMW4Ydi
02:01.03MonetWouldn't consider them ancient though heh
02:01.06DrodoEmpireYes]
02:01.10DrodoEmpireAnd no they're not
02:01.24DrodoEmpireThey were used up until the 1700's I believe
02:01.46DrodoEmpireThough theit golden age so to speak was the 17th century
02:01.49DrodoEmpire*their
02:02.36Externalhttp://imgur.com/gallery/WYmkYTy
02:03.34HachimanThey remind me a lot of Eldar units
02:04.01DrodoEmpireBut yeah the Winged Hussars are the stuff of legend, and even after Poland ceased to exist as a country during the Napoleonic Wars Polish lancers were in high demand and proved to be very effective
02:04.51Externalhttp://imgur.com/gallery/suLqGAk
02:05.05DrodoEmpireReally it was a Winged Hussars and Napoleonic Polish cavalry who singlehandedly brought the lance back from obsolescence. :p By the 1500's the lance was considered obsolete when compared to the wheellock pistol
02:05.34DrodoEmpireNow thanks to the Winged Hussars and the Polish Lancers, the lance was used all the way up to the Second World War.
02:05.56DrodoEmpireWhen, with the rare exception, the last horse acavlry units switched to armoured divisions
02:06.00DrodoEmpire*cavalry
02:14.24ExternalYou know what's really funny though? How everyone bitches and complains about their government to each other. Then to foreigners we do nothing but talk shit about other people's governments....  I wonder if aliens watch us as some kind of tv drama. "Oh look! The Russians and Americans are mad at each other again! This season is gonna be good! I can tell!!"
02:24.05Externaltest
02:28.15DrodoEmpiretest
02:35.40External~test
02:35.40infoboti guess test is not funny
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02:49.30DrodoEmpireHi
02:49.47OfficerJackalHello.
02:54.43ExternalHe
02:54.44ExternalHey
02:55.06ExternalVincent20100: Dammit Vincent. You got me addicted to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc
02:55.28Vincent20100Such a great tune
02:56.08Externalclicks on the 10 hour version
02:56.11External;-;
02:56.13Externalhelp me
02:57.44ExternalWhy can't I stop admiring this armor http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Koladras.png
03:30.29ExternalIRC is very ded
03:31.03OfficerJackalIt's late, and there isn't much to talk about.
03:32.24ExternalLets talk about this then http://www.amazon.com/Images-SI-Uranium-Ore/dp/B000796XXM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429142215&sr=8-1&keywords=uranium#product-description-iframe
03:37.14OfficerJackalNot much to really say about that, other then I would most certainly lick it.
03:38.58Externalolol
03:39.42ExternalIve got a Ant hill I want to remove.... is there sufficient quantity to build a working 1-1000th scale Fatman replica to nuke the little buggers?
03:40.03OfficerJackalHaha, yeah I read that comment.
03:40.42External"I want to turn my pet iguana into a 400 foot tall kaiju with radioactive breath. How many should I buy?"
03:40.58ExternalA:  2 should do the trick. 3 is overkill. Literally. He'll die if you use 3. Hollace Bee answered on April 26, 20
03:42.04ExternalMagic stuff. Been taking 1 spoon a day for 3 weeks. I can now type this review using all 12 fingers.
03:43.23OfficerJackalYeah, that entire product is just open to jokes. :>
03:43.59External"high velocity, aerial, weighted Mormon net"
03:44.07ExternalI want one
03:45.39OfficerJackalWe need to capture moar mormons. >:/
03:52.38TekDroidMy university registration is in the morning so good night everyone.
03:52.48OfficerJackalNight.
03:56.45ExternalNight,
03:57.28Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:SporeWikia%27s_Mentors/Users What is this about
04:00.31OfficerJackalNot sure.
04:02.38Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:SporeWikia%27s_Mentors
04:03.24OfficerJackalLooks like it hasn't been looked at in a while, last edit in 2011.
04:03.50ExternalWhen I come back from vacation, I will bother Wormy about it.
04:04.39OfficerJackalHmm... Speaking of which, do you have a fiction in the fictionverse?
04:05.16External2
04:05.23ExternalWhen I get back, 3
04:07.07Externaltest
04:07.20OfficerJackalLoud and clear. Anyways, cool, can I see them?
04:18.46Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Plazith_League
04:19.05Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Infection
04:22.32OfficerJackalThey look good, I like it. :)
04:24.07ExternalThanks.
04:25.22OfficerJackalI currently don't have anything fiction wise, really, I'm a bit of a mess right now.
04:38.49Externaltest
04:47.34ExternalI'm kind of proud of myself for the plazith League.
04:48.01ExternalIts well connected, large, and somewhat advanced in technology.
04:55.02Externaltest
04:55.48OfficerJackalExternal: Hear ya.
05:03.21ExternalWhy do we not have user blogs?
05:04.01OfficerJackalBecause people decided they were kind of dumb, so they were removed, like all of them.
05:04.15OfficerJackalWhich I think is stupid. >.< Lots of history of the Sporewiki was on those blogs.
05:12.45ExternalYeah.
05:12.54ExternalHundreds of red links just because of that.
05:13.00Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:The_Human
05:13.12External"I made a messed up one"
05:33.30ExternalTest
05:33.56OfficerJackalExternal: Loud and clear, although you can private message infobot with test to get the same result.
05:34.05External~test
05:34.06infoboti heard test is not funny
05:34.07External?
05:34.17OfficerJackalIt's an internet check. XD
05:34.34ExternalIRC needs indicators to when you disconnect
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05:49.45ExternalSoviet Union theme
05:49.47ExternalOur Soviet Union subjugates the whole world Like a gigantic bear from the East. The sheep wander aimlessly, without any cause, Yet the Soviet bear's on the hunt.  Our brotherhood's a good life, Our generosity is without compare. All those with us are strong, All those against us, beware. It'd be a shame if we had hardships.  To all those around us, it's not worth your while If we were to turn you to ashes. We thank you profoundl
05:50.01Externalmightiest nation in all the world
06:08.51ExternalOfficerJackal: When you do get fictions, these might be good themes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmmnV_oY9SI&list=PL7DXTXnlwEuO5cOYyLpLSC06rxCDNwJc8
06:09.05ExternalWell when you get it done. :)
06:11.49ExternalI have 1555 profile views on Google+
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09:41.17JepardiHi
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11:40.06ImpyDroidHi
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11:43.58MonetHello
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11:45.36HachimanHai
11:46.10MonetHi
11:46.29HachimanSo I am reading into Mesoamerican - particularly Aztec - mythology and religion for inspiration and I have come across some rather interesting details
11:47.55HachimanFor one, Quetzacoatl outright prohibits casualties and sacrifices in his name and was never depicted to have had wings prior to the Spanish arrival, instead being a large feathery snake who happened to be chaste until he was tricked into getting so drunk he accidentally had sex with his sister
11:48.18MonetPoor guy
11:49.11MonetI recall the reason the reason the Aztec sun god demanded sacrifices was because he almost died so that the world could live.
11:49.37HachimanAye, he could not function without the souls and blood of Aztecs to empower him
11:50.14HachimanThe Aztecs also believed in a distinct group of extraterrestrial deities associated with the stars which were beautiful goddesses with skeletal faces and rattlesnakes for genitals
11:50.31Monet>rattlesnakes for genitals
11:50.36MonetTalk about a cockblock
11:51.10HachimanThe Tzitzimitl, as they were called, would come down from the stars to ravage the world and cause chaos during times of eclipse
11:52.46HachimanThe Aztecs also, apparently, treated slaves that they did not sacrifice surprisingly well, giving them access to their education system just as the peasants and high-class had access to it
11:53.55HachimanOne of their gods, Tezcatlipoca, was a god of slaves and was said to severely punish any who would mistreat their slaves
11:54.05MonetSo along with tiny shrivelled bigheaded grey men, 10ft tall bloodsucking shapeshifting dinosaurs and 7ft tall blonde Orlando Blooms, the list of extraterrestrials also includes gorgeous skullfaced women with snakes for snakes?
11:55.03HachimanAye it appears so, as the Aztecs did "not" treat the Tzitzimitl in the same manner as their other gods
11:55.34HachimanTo the Aztecs, the Tzitzimitl are their equivalent to Lovecraft's Great Ones
11:55.56MonetWell to the ancient peoples, eclipses were odd things
11:55.56HachimanAnd this is coming from a culture whose deities are distinctly more Lovecraftian than those depicted in other pantheons
11:56.41MonetIts interesting how many societies treat a solar or lunar eclipse as the coming of bad times.
11:57.09HachimanAye
11:57.34HachimanAnd of course, the Aztecs believed they could ward away eclipses with blood and sacrifice
11:58.14HachimanOne thing I kind of like about the Aztecs is that they did not actually have an equivalent to Hell
11:58.54HachimanTheir afterlives ranged in terms of living quality, the most hellish you could get was probably like living on some council estate to them hur
11:59.28MonetMild, but i've spent several years on a council estate.
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11:59.45Wormy_hi
11:59.58MonetHi
12:00.16MonetMouthy kids can be as tormenting as actual demons sometimes
12:00.21HachimanThere were a great number of afterlives you could access and the one you went to depended on "how" you died rather than your actions in life
12:00.34MonetOh?
12:01.02Wormy_I think I might start the Trials of Kilnok later
12:01.49HachimanYeah, such as there being one afterlife for sacrificed babies, one for people who died from drowning or liquid-affiliated illnesses, and so on
12:03.04Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/B9qH8eP
12:03.12MonetI guess the Aztecs thought that given how tough life is, the afterlife *must* be more promising
12:03.26HachimanThe goddess of the sacrificed baby afterlife was Itzpapalotl, who could take the form of a skeletal warrior goddess with butterfly wings made of knives of obsidian
12:03.45HachimanImagine having THAT as your caretaker
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12:04.57MonetItzpapalotl - Would all of you little shits stop crying! I can't help that I look like a herald of death!
12:05.04Hachimanhur
12:05.28HachimanThe Aztecs believed that the sacrifices of crying babies would bring on rain during times of drought
12:05.42HachimanAnd they "had" to be crying as they died
12:06.07TekDroidHello
12:06.09MonetGiving the priests wierd masks will do that.
12:06.12MonetHi
12:06.18HachimanHai
12:06.48MonetThis talk makes me wonder how various aliens in the 1st gig approached the idea of "blood is life"
12:07.10Wormy_Monet, Hachi:  http://imgur.com/gallery/iehcWAH
12:07.43Hachimanolol
12:08.32HachimanI suppose Zazane have a great affiliation with blood given how they are a war-inclined species and all
12:09.14HachimanBoth in the literal sense and the philosophical sense
12:10.39MonetMaybe they were adherants to the idea that drinking another's blood bestowed you with their strength?
12:11.15HachimanYeah I can imagine that
12:11.28HachimanIn fact, I imagine some "still" do that
12:11.56HachimanAlthough mostly with Zazane blood rather than extraterrestrial given differing anatomies and all hur
12:12.33MonetIt would explain why Kordan wasn't the least bit fazed over drinking Zagdala's blood.
12:13.43HachimanAye
12:14.28MonetGiven that the Zazane side of Draconizane culture came from Zazane slaves, I wonder how knowledgeable the Draconizane could have been that drinking the blood of a Descended really does add at least part of their strength to your own.
12:15.26HachimanIt was probably just myth until Kordan actually went and did it
12:17.26MonetTHe Iron Sons of Zagdala weren't exactly willing test subjects.
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12:18.45MonetGiven the Draconis have leaned towards cannibalism in their history, drinking wine made from blood might have ceremonial purposes. The early cultures might have been against eating the bodies of those who are honoured.
12:19.48MonetThere's a slight conflict in the culture I have provided in that while the corpse is seen as an empty shell, it is considered shameful to abuse or neglect the bodies of the dead.
12:20.21HachimanWell, same thing with Western human culture really
12:21.29MonetYeah but in Western (Christian) culture that's because of the belief that the soul will be reunited with the body on Judgement Day.
12:22.34HachimanSo it appears that there were two primary interpretations of which Aztec god became their sun; Nanahuatin, a poor and crippled deity who sacrificed himself to become the sun after the beautiful and rich deity, Tecciztecatl, hesitated to do so
12:22.50MonetDraconis under the Path of Drakon didn't have such an idea. So entoming the body was more a case of honoring in memoriam that keep ing the body for the day th soul returns.
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12:23.20Monetthan keepig the body*
12:23.21MonetHi
12:23.27OluapPlayerHi
12:23.57HachimanTecciztecatl ended becoming the moon after the gods decreed that Nanahuatin was far braver than him and far more worthy of being the sun, so they *threw a rabbit* at Tecciztecatl to turn him into the moon
12:24.03HachimanHai
12:24.18MonetHachiman: Sounds lie a classic story of the weak and the poor willing to do what the rich and vain would not.
12:24.32HachimanAye
12:24.41MonetThey threw a rabbit at him.
12:24.55MonetImagine that kind of thinking at a magician's show
12:25.02Hachimanohgod
12:25.35Monet"Everyoen run! He's got a rabbit!" "I dun't wanna be a rock in the sky!"
12:26.14MonetHowever that myth does sound like the Aztecs conisdered the moon beautiful.
12:27.12HachimanThe other interpretation, which is my favourite, is that the war god Huitzilopochtli became the sun to oppose his evil sister, the goddess Coyolxauhqui, who was the goddess of the moon and the ruler of the aforementioned Tzitzimitl star-goddesses
12:27.49MonetBoth of these have interesting consequences in regards to eclipses
12:27.57HachimanYeah
12:29.12HachimanThe Aztec mythology and religious practices were so surreal that neighbouring cultures in Mesoamerica considered them bizarre and evil just as much as the Spaniards did upon arrival
12:29.33MonetThe story of Tecciztecatl suggests eclipses are those brief moments when Tecciztecatl blocks the sun god's glory, and the story of Huitzilopochtli and Coyolxauhqui suggests eclipses are when Coyolxauhqui manages to temporarily hide Huitzilopochtli's radiance and unleash her armies.
12:30.03MonetHow cold does it get in Central America at night?
12:30.22HachimanNot entirely sure
12:31.36MonetI know i nthe Sahara it gets extremely cold at night due to a lack of cloud cover
12:32.51HachimanThe whole thing with the Spaniards arriving in Mesoamerica was actually really spooky when you consider how many coincidences happened around the time they arrived
12:32.55MonetJust trying to decipher why the Aztecs would associate an eclipse with the coming of death.
12:33.11MonetWhat kinds of coincidences?
12:35.07HachimanMoctezuma, the ruler of the Aztec peoples at the time, had a dream of literal white people mounted atop deer, a comet was seen in the sky near the day that the Spaniards and Cortez arrived, the Temple of Huitzilipochti caught fire, and the Spaniards arrived from the eastern region, where Quetzalcoatl was said to have exiled himself after the incident with his sister
12:35.42HachimanDoes not help that Quetzalcoatl was commonly portrayed with a beard, which Cortez happened to have
12:37.02HachimanThis was also, very coincidentally, around the same time that Quetzalcoatl was supposed to return from his self-imposed exile
12:37.22MonetI've heard of the myth that Montezuma mistook Cortez to be the reincarnation of Quetzalcoatl
12:37.45Liquid_InkThere is however a theory that that was just made up by the Conquistadors.
12:37.56MonetI was about to say
12:38.12HachimanAye, I do not believe it myself but I do figure that Moctezuma feared Cortez, which is why he gave him gold to keep him from acting out in hostility towards him and his people
12:38.24MonetSounds like something the Conquistadors might spread to make the native sound superstitious or stupid.
12:39.07HachimanCortez then used the gold to buy the services of neighbouring tribes, who had lived in the shadow of the Aztecs, and had them contribute in taking down the Aztec empire
12:39.07MonetI think Montezuma might have been mroe driven by his dream of white-faced men riding atop deer
12:40.28Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/6RoAHTz
12:41.36MonetI watched a documentary a long time ago of a poorly-known culture in modern-day Peru (I think), who took to sacrificing in the hope their tribute to the gods would stop the march of the Spaniards.  The culture itself didn't know much about them besides the stories that they killed everywhere they went.
12:41.50HachimanWormy_: ohgod
12:42.05MonetAnd no matter how many they sacrificed, the Spaniards just wouldn't stop.
12:42.47HachimanThe fact that they were sacrificing people probably made the Spaniards want to wipe them out more because it was anti-Christian
12:44.15MonetThat's the thing
12:44.33MonetThe culture ended up wiping itself out before the Spaniards got ot them.
12:44.59HachimanOh wow
12:45.20MonetI think it was a combination of desperate sacrifices and a fire that consumed their village.
12:46.14Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/oQaRiqq
12:47.32HachimanOh that's awesome
12:48.15MonetYou've got me thinking now what's going on with the minor cultures that live in the shadow of the DI but aren't absorbed.
12:49.08MonetThe Imperium's territory either surrounds or borders the Imeprium so if these cultures know of this there must be a hint of "plz leave me alone"
12:49.27MonetOr the Imperium becomes a vital trading partner.
12:51.49MonetThat might further blur what it means to be Imperial. As these border cultures might adopt Draconid philosophies.
12:51.58HachimanOne thing that is interesting about the Aztecs was that they had iconography of feathered reptiles practically millennia before the idea of feathered dinosaurs arose in the West
12:53.38Wormy_Dragons are a global phenomenon.  They are mental archetypes from our earliest ancestors.  Therefore we are all dragonkin.
12:54.58MonetCOuld it be all the impressive beaks of tropical birds?
12:55.32HachimanHm maybe
12:56.31MonetIn Europe I can't think of many birds with significant beaks.
12:57.22MonetAfrica things get a little more interesting, exemplified by some of the beaks of the birdheaded Egyptian gods
12:57.55MonetJust a hypothesis though
12:58.38MonetWormy_: So you think the idea of dragons stems from mental imprints inside the brain of early synapsids?
12:59.38Wormy_Not even that far back.  There were both giant flightless birds and giant reptiles in prehistory.  And back before hominids, we were a lot smaller
13:00.06MonetIn more recent history, the human opinion of dragons (wel, reptiles in general) being monsters might have been in part the result of the perceptions of snakes and crocodiles.
13:01.01Wormy_A crocodile escaped in Britain during the mediaeval period.  It really was a dragon to them.
13:01.26MonetOf all the forms Lucifer could have taken when coaxing Eve, he chose what is widely considered one of the most reviled animals in Western culture.
13:01.31GhelawayA lot of draconic iconography seems to be ultimately derived from giant snakes. In a few places, e.g. Mesopotamia and China, the snakes were given legs, then in Europe they were given bat-like wings too.
13:02.14Wormy_Even in Europe, there's the wyrm
13:02.38MonetDraco is a perfect example of "Dragons came from snakes"
13:03.30MonetBut how Draco's cousins ended up looking like a gaint salamander with wings, that I don't know. mAybe it's the crocodile story?
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13:05.32HachimanDum I disconnected from the IRC on my laptop
13:06.01HachimanI was gonna say, it was funny you brought up exotic birds because Huitzilopochti was the Aztec god of war and also the god of hummingbirds
13:07.30MonetThat's quite a difference in domains
13:07.41MonetThe nagain Mars was god of conquest and agriculture.
13:08.20HachimanTo be fair
13:08.20OluapPlayerBah where's Imp
13:08.28OluapPlayerI wanna show him some new WoW-related bullshit
13:08.36HachimanIf you have ever handled hummingbirds, you will know why Huitzilopochti is their war god
13:08.51HachimanOluapPlayer: wat dis
13:09.19OluapPlayerI don't know how knowledgeable of Warcraft lore you are for you to understand it
13:09.40HachimanI know a bit at least
13:09.47HachimanAs in, the fundamental stuff
13:10.23OluapPlayerWell you know Archimonde?
13:10.37MonetI do.
13:10.57MonetOh yeah its an alternate timeline. Archimonde's not dead yet
13:11.07OluapPlayerActually
13:11.11HachimanAye I know Archimonde
13:11.22OluapPlayerA tweet from a Blizzard employee confirmed it's the exact same Archimonde
13:11.28HachimanWait what
13:11.29OluapPlayerHe never died at Mount Hyjal
13:11.39HachimanBut
13:11.42OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1435144005886.png
13:12.27HachimanHuh
13:12.30OluapPlayerApparently demons transcend TIME AND SPACE and you can never kill them off for real
13:13.02HachimanWhat a load of bullshit hur
13:13.09OluapPlayerMeaning his death at Mount Hyjal was essentially irrelevant
13:13.24MonetActually it would make some sense
13:13.40OluapPlayerSkip to the cutscene of the final Orclord of Orcnor raid, where Gul'dan summons him to fight the raid party
13:13.43MonetDuring the war with the titans, demons were often imprisoned.
13:14.06OluapPlayerNot only does the raid party kill Archimonde again, Gul'dan escapes through a portal meaning he's still at large
13:14.39OluapPlayerRemember all the effort to took to defeat Archimonde at Mount Hyjal. Now a team of 20 misfits can beat him up with no impunity
13:14.45MonetAnd the same magic that originally linked Draenor to Azeroth was able to link an alternate and earlier Draenor to a modern Azeroth.
13:14.52MonetThe twisting nether is...wierd
13:15.46OluapPlayerIt's not even a special trap like Furion did, you just fight him like a normal boss and he straight up dies
13:16.04MonetBut...
13:16.11MonetArchimonde's hella tall
13:16.19OluapPlayerOh he's tall
13:16.23OluapPlayerBut he still straight up dies
13:16.30OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lieulbyk9I the cutscene
13:16.36MonetDeath by a thousand cuts
13:18.55MonetSince Archimonde thew hi mthough, who knows what could happen to Gul in the interim
13:19.12HachimanWho is the cute blue girl? I have seen her about but cannot recall her name
13:19.19OluapPlayerHe'll come back as the main villain of a future expansion because you can never stop jerking off that orc dong
13:19.26MonetShe's a woman unique to the expansion
13:19.50MonetCan't remember her name but after Velen sacrificed himself to purify a Naaru, she's the leader of the Draeni now
13:20.08HachimanYeah I remember seeing that sacrifice
13:20.12OluapPlayerI'm less worried about some random draenei than the fact Warcraft's lore gets raped more intensely every time I heard news about WoW
13:20.56HachimanConsidering demons supposedly transcend time and space now, the "alternate universe" justification cannot really be called
13:21.29MonetIts more an alternate timeline
13:21.38MonetBut the Twisting Nether links up everything in a sense
13:21.39OluapPlayerIt made the whole Warcraft III ending irrelevant
13:21.47Hachiman"Still, at least Green Jesus is taking a back seat in this one."
13:22.02MonetOluapPLayer: I wouldn't consider it irrelevant
13:22.09OluapPlayerIf Green Jesus was involved he'd probably have chased Archimode all the way back to the Nether
13:22.25MonetArchimonde was in the process of felling the World Tree when he was killed
13:22.53OluapPlayerIt was. They sacrificed the World Tree and the night elves's immortality when this boss fight shows a bunch of random players can outright kill Archimobde
13:22.57OluapPlayerArchimonde even
13:23.43MonetWotLK confirmed that WoW players are far beyond your average person
13:24.21Hachimanbrb gonna take a shower
13:24.28MonetThere weren't enough of them at the time of the Battle of Mt Hyjal.
13:24.30OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1435151046296.png "Metzen's time schedule"
13:24.43MonetBesides, yeah Archimonde dies, but what happens in the raid?
13:25.05OluapPlayerWhatever Gul'dan was doing gets stopped I guess
13:25.10OluapPlayerThis is the last raid of the expansion
13:25.36MonetWhat's the process that kills him? Archimonde's too big and dangerous to be slapped around like your average Dungeon Boss
13:26.17OluapPlayerAs far as these people are reporting, he's a normal boss fight
13:26.40OluapPlayerNo special tactics involved
13:27.03OluapPlayerWhich's why it ticks me off so much
13:31.10TekDroidHalf an hour until my university registration. :O
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13:40.19JepardiHi
13:51.59TekDroidHello
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13:56.01AdmiralPandahi all
13:57.22TekDroidHello
13:58.48MonetHi
13:59.41MonetYeah, I'm thinking that the DI territories are likely surrounded by minor powers that while not part of the DI proper, they have a varying spectrum of "feeling" Draconid.
14:00.55MonetAs the Draconis tend to enjoy a healthy amount of trade
14:02.29TekDroidOkay... do I do a scattered university schedule or a one of mostly afternoon courses... XD
14:05.33HachimanBack also holy shit Tesco and Pringles have caused an outrage
14:05.56HachimanTesco was promoting towards Ramadan by having Pringles' smoky bacon-flavoured crisps put on offer
14:06.31MonetLolseriosuly
14:06.40HachimanYeah apparently
14:06.57MonetDid they say the promotion was in preparation for Ramadan or is it coincidental?
14:07.16HachimanPreparation for Ramadan
14:08.33MonetYeah they're stupid.
14:08.49MonetNever liked Tescos anyway lol
14:09.18MonetThey turned the pub outsideo f my college into a Tesko Express.
14:09.29HachimanEch
14:10.07HachimanAlso, fun fact: leporiphobia is the term used to refer to an abnormal or discomfort of rabbits and hares
14:10.18Hachiman*abnormal fear or discomfort
14:11.16MonetLookign at the comments sections people are frothing that Grommash is suddenly "I'm cool with Draeni now lets al lbe friends"
14:11.42OluapPlayerThat's what we all feel whenever you show up
14:11.42MonetWierd as it soudns I can sort of see why this makes sense in the Dev eyes
14:12.35MonetWere it not for Gul'Dan or Garrosh, Orcs ad Draenei would still be living in a sort-of peace with each other.
14:14.45MonetThey were the ones who convinced the orcs to rape and murder Draenai and everyone else
14:16.18TekDroidWoo, registered for university!
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14:22.51MonetHai
14:24.18OluapPlayerHi
14:24.37HachimanHai Imp
14:27.07MonetAlso other speculation is that Archimonde's not fully dead in this timeline either
14:27.53MonetLooking closely, Khadgar's face when Gul'Dan's staff dissolves suggests to me he's thinking "...Fuck"
14:29.36OluapPlayerHe's not dead for real
14:29.57OluapPlayerHe's just gonna be sent back to the Nether so he can come back when Blizzard feels like whoring him out again
14:30.29MonetAlso when the light from Archimonde's eye disappears...he has mortal eyes.
14:31.17MonetI've never seen a Draenei with anything but orbs of light for eyes.
14:33.44MonetEither that transformation is a feature that only came with cinematic technology, or Archimonde did something with Gul'Dan's body that isn't evident yet
14:34.27OluapPlayerHe's an Eredar, not a Draenei
14:35.05MonetThe two beings are quite similar.
14:35.27HachimanPhysiologically anyway
14:35.28MonetWell...pre-corruption
14:37.52MonetBut even if the Draenei are changed forms, I don't know if its fair to suggest they might be "higher" forms.
14:43.31HachimanMy ex claimed that whiskey tastes nice
14:43.35HachimanNo wonder why she was a dumb bitch
14:43.51HachimanConsidering most whiskey tastes worse than my own asshole
14:44.19OluapPlayerhao do u kno its taste
14:44.21MonetA lot of "manly" drinks taste like urine to some.
14:45.28HachimanYeah I cannot understand why people drink stuff that tastes like piss
14:45.43MonetAcquired taste.
14:45.48HachimanOther than for the purpose of purely getting plastered which is dum
14:46.23MonetI tried Kentucky Bourbon while in Iceland. It was wierd and I remember the taste of spice shooting though my nose. But for some reason I'd drink it again
14:46.33MonetThere was a bit of a syrupy taste to it.
14:46.46HachimanI absolutely despise most beers hur
14:47.00HachimanI remember trying traditional lager and the milky texture to it put me right off
14:47.16HachimanLike the taste itself was not horrendous but lager has that same thick milk feel to it
14:47.31HachimanAnd I hate milk hur
14:47.38MonetEver tried cider?
14:47.58HachimanI love cider hur
14:48.14MonetMy bad
14:48.30MonetSo yeah, most alcoholic drinks taste like piss.
14:48.34HachimanYeah
14:48.53MonetBut it can be rather tasty piss.
14:49.02HachimanAlthough rum tastes good when you add it with something
14:49.07HachimanLike coke or Pepsi
14:49.27Wormy_Its ta\ken me a long time to enjoy wine
14:49.37MonetWell yeah Rum is made from sugar.
14:49.59Wormy_I've always found it hard and heavy to drink, and makes me tired.  But I'm acquiring to it
14:51.01Wormy_Hachi:  Try real ale.  Most lagers are piss water
14:51.16Wormy_There are some good lagers
14:51.42HachimanI do hope so
14:52.53Wormy_Brewdog This Is Lager is like an ale, Peroni and Taddy lager are also nice
14:54.23Wormy_There's so many kinds of ale http://firstwefeast.com/drink/pop-chart-lab-beer-map/
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14:55.11Hachiman"An immigrant with a degree is not stealing your job when you have two GCSEs and an STI."
14:55.47Wormy_shots fired
14:56.04MonetLawl
14:56.56Monet"Dum immigrants with their better qualifications and more optrimistic opinion of this country taking out jobs, they should go back to where they came from"
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14:58.14MonetHi
14:58.21MonetPersonally I don't mind that we have all these foreigners in the UK.
14:58.30HachimanNeither do I
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14:58.41MonetThey're not all closeted cheapskates rtying to leech of the system.
14:59.40Tek0516Some are. But so are some Brits.
14:59.46MonetThere are some but come on we all know mdern mass media is aware they're boring form a reporter standpoint
15:00.12dromGoddamned internet failing everytime I load a page.
15:00.39MonetThey'd probably take less jobs if 3 GCSEs wasn't considered an achievement.
15:02.48Tek0516How does the GCSE work? Out here we just have a single thing for graduating secobdary school.
15:03.37MonetA GCSE is a qualification for a particular topic in school
15:04.42MonetAny topic that results in a C+ grade nets you a single GCSE.
15:05.43Monet(C+ as in any grade over C. We don't have + and - for grades other than A+, which is isntead A*)
15:06.35dromSpeaking of grading systems. We use the F-A system.
15:07.07dromF is the grade telling you that you didn't pass.
15:07.21dromAnything from E to A tells you've passed.
15:07.47dromE-D-C-B-A, the A is of course the best possible grade in our education system.
15:07.58MonetSo say you do your GCSEs and in your exams you get an overall C for English, B for science, B for Maths and A in Geography amd an F in French. You'd get 4 GCSEs
15:08.12Tek0516We have R, and then D- up to A+.
15:09.10MonetActually I'm a little mistaken. You can get a GCSE if you get E or D in a subject, but to employers you may as wel ltel lthem you failed.
15:09.18Tek0516used to be F instead of R, but the moral guardians don't like telling kids they failed.
15:09.18AdmiralPandaA little late to the party, but Hachiman did you drink the whiskey straight by chance?
15:09.21dromD and C are comprimisses, D is a comprimise if you have passed the goals required for E, but did only achieve *least* half of the goals in C, you get a D.
15:09.31dromArgh
15:09.34dromD and B not C.
15:09.38HachimanAdmiralPanda: Yeah straight whiskey
15:09.39MonetUniversities only care for C, B, A and A* grades.
15:09.49AdmiralPandathat's your problem, whiskey isn't meant to be drunk straight
15:09.49dromB is unsurprisingly C and A.
15:10.14HachimanHow is whiskey supposed to be drank?
15:10.23AdmiralPandait tasted like shit because, like most hard liquor it's overwhelming, you're meant to dilute it a little with a few drops of water
15:10.47Tek0516Some universities here won't even look at you if your overall average in below the equivalent of B
15:10.47HachimanHuh
15:10.49dromHachiman: It meant to be drunk bi.
15:11.14HachimanDidn't think water and whiskey went together
15:11.20AdmiralPandaas you know I don't drink, but my bartender friend made up a straight shot and a diluted shot, and you can tell the difference immediately
15:11.35MonetMost drinks are part water.
15:11.45AdmiralPandamostly for the purpose of proving himself right, but it was interesting nonetheless
15:12.10MonetStraight whiskey is a concentrate.
15:12.11Tek0516https://carleton.ca/npsia/calculate-your-gpa/ At university level this is what our letters typically mean in terms of grade.
15:13.02MonetA lot of bars actually water down their drinks.
15:13.23HachimanHm, I might have to try whiskey again in future
15:13.38MonetIt means they can sell more of theproduct per gallon and you'd need ot buy more of the drink to get fully shitfaced.
15:14.11HachimanOh wow hur
15:14.37AdmiralPandabars that sell alcohol for the sake of selling good tasting alcohol do it for the sake of making it taste good, but yeah most bars dilute their drinks a lot
15:14.58AdmiralPandasame reason they promote mixers so much too, much cheaper for the
15:15.00AdmiralPandathem*
15:15.41dromMonet Imperios: Are you both okay with this text? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nomatari_Sovereignty#Andromeda_2
15:16.03MonetI was always curious about the colloqiualism of "fire-water"  for beer. When I tried my first swig of bourbon, it all made sense.
15:16.51dromI believe it was mostly used to describe vodka, scotch and whiskey.
15:17.52AdmiralPandafirewater is brandy :P
15:18.07AdmiralPandawell, prettymuch anything overly distilled
15:18.34AdmiralPandaheh, 'firewater' reminded me of Spice and Wolf
15:19.07HachimanFirewater reminds me of Game of Thrones
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15:19.44ImperiosFirewater reminds me of Native Americans
15:19.52HachimanMost notably the Siege of the Blackwater and the incident involving wildfire
15:20.11HachimanHai Cyr
15:21.05MonetImperios: The term is Native AMerican in origin
15:21.34HachimanWhere was Imp when we were talking about the Aztecs hur
15:21.55CyrannianHello
15:22.09OluapPlayerHi
15:22.44Monetdrom: I like it. Definitely shows that the Nomatari have been involved in thegalaxy.
15:24.08ImperiosYa
15:24.21MonetTheir interactions with the present Andromedan residents makes it logical the Sovereignty's worlds could be mixers for the broad Andromedan culture.
15:24.26ImperiosWait were you talking about Archimonde
15:24.54OluapPlayerYes
15:25.45OluapPlayerA Blizzard employee confirmed on twitter the Archimonde in Orclords is the same one as the Mount Hyjal one, and there's no such thing as an alternate reality Archimonde because demons transcend time and space now
15:25.52HachimanTurns out Archimonde cannot die because, according to a member of Blizzard staff, demons transcend time and space
15:26.29MonetTo be fair we're not exactly innocent of shit like this ourselves.
15:26.30ImperiosOh yes that
15:26.43ImperiosAfrasiabi said that
15:26.51ImperiosI still believe Draenor is worst expansion
15:27.03OluapPlayerMeaning his death at Mount Hyjal was irrelevant, and so was all the effort done to temporarily kill him
15:27.23OluapPlayerSince now a 20-man party can kill him a second time (he straight up dies in the cutscene) in a normal boss fight in the new raid
15:27.47ImperiosI heard that news a week ago or something
15:27.49OluapPlayerAlso Gul'dan escapes so expect more orc circlejerking in future expansions
15:28.14ImperiosOluapPlayer: No, Gul'dan is awesome
15:28.14OluapPlayerI heard there was a leak, but the raid only came out today or yesterday
15:28.21MonetImperios: I uphold the theory that Archimonde could be smacked around because PCs are far mroe formidable than any soldier the Horde and Alliance could reliably field at the time
15:28.30OluapPlayerGul'dan is a dead character who's coming back through time travel shittery
15:28.52Monetat the time of the Mt Hyjal battle*
15:29.06ImperiosDoes not mean Gul'dan is a bad character per se, plot-wise and character-wise Draenor was good sans the time travel shenanigans
15:29.17ImperiosAnd yes Gul'dan got sucked
15:29.30OluapPlayerBringing Archimonde back and negating the ending of Warcraft III was not good in the slightest
15:29.44ImperiosThat counts as "time travel shenanigans"
15:29.55Wormy_Photograph, 3D or painting? What first comes to mind?   http://images.viralnova.com/000/001/338/crazy-talent15.jpg
15:30.06MonetI see the ending this way: Killing him in WCIII stoped him fro mdoing more than tearing down the world tree.
15:30.06ImperiosSimply enough Blizzard have failed at making time travel work which resulted in a terrible mess of a plotline
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15:30.26OluapPlayerWarcraft's lore gets fucked harder in one expansion pack than Kalcedia has ever been in her whole life
15:30.43dromtop kek
15:30.45HachimanJesus that comparison
15:31.04dromMonet Impersio: Pleased to hear that.
15:31.05Imperios...Pretty much
15:31.08dromImperios even
15:31.09MonetYes this was irrelevant in the "getting rid of archimonde" department, but in the "saving the world" department I still consider the death of Archimonde as notable.
15:31.33ImperiosIt is notable
15:31.39ImperiosBut nowhere near as dramatic and notable as it was before
15:31.48OluapPlayer"I didn't die though, it was a joke"
15:31.57Imperios^ That
15:32.03OluapPlayerAlso makes the Mt Hyjal armies look like weaklings
15:32.31MonetAnd killing hundreds of Orc warriors over the course of Orclords doesn't?
15:32.40ImperiosOh yes that
15:32.59ImperiosThe Iron Horde was a terrible antagonist
15:33.04MonetLorewise Player Characters are beastly formidable.
15:33.09OluapPlayerYou don't play with armies though, you use singular characters
15:33.16ImperiosTheir potential was great, the characters and the lore and all
15:33.45ImperiosBut seriously all they have been doing is failing miserably throughout the expansion
15:34.01OluapPlayerWhen you can kill the third-in-command of the Burning Legion in direct combat, why need armies or strategies?
15:34.02ImperiosOluapPlayer: About Archimonde, the "demons trascend timelines" thing comes from a tweet by Afrasiabi
15:34.09MonetSingualr characters who by the time you're fighting Archimonde are relic-grade weapons and armour imbuded with primordial energies.
15:34.12OluapPlayerI've seen the tweet
15:34.17OluapPlayerIt's what started the conversation
15:34.56MonetJaina could have defeated Archimonde if there were ten of her.
15:34.56OluapPlayerWhat I'm saying is that the player characters overshadow the rest of the setting
15:35.07OluapPlayerThey don't feel like part of it, they feel above it
15:35.56OluapPlayerIt just doesn't feel right to me
15:36.00MonetBut...a lot of the story in WoD is the PC building up a garrison on Draenor to fight the Iron Horde
15:36.28dromI used to play WoW back since when I was younger, silly me but who am I kiddin'? I didn't care anything about the lore, but I was indeed curious about the every regions' backstory.
15:36.38ImperiosThere are still no armies in Hellfire
15:36.41OluapPlayerIt's like a new protagonist showing up in Batman's stories and taking over Batman's spot
15:37.00HachimanThis is what led to the Red Hood incident hur
15:37.10dromNow when I'm reading this, I believe WoW's lore could have been a lot better if it was inserted in a single-player/coop RPG.
15:37.20ImperiosIn ICC and Dragon Soul and Siege of Orgrimmar there were at least Argent Crusade/Aspects/Alliance with us
15:37.27dromRather than in a MMO.
15:38.03HachimanIf somebody is going to take over Batman's spotlight, he has to be a big guy
15:38.11OluapPlayerUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
15:39.06ImperiosHachiman: There was Azrael
15:39.55HachimanWhich Azrael we speaking?
15:40.32dromAs real
15:40.44HachimanI am gonna assume Jean-Paul
15:41.27Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/4az5Vt0
15:41.34ImperiosYes him
15:41.53HachimanOhgod that bird
15:42.04HachimanThe look he gives at the end is like "why"
15:42.21OluapPlayerolol
15:43.14dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/NbFWWGn.png
15:44.18Wormy_lol
15:44.46dromhttp://i.imgur.com/pndg9lA.png
15:46.37dromhttp://i.imgur.com/dHKVMfc.png
15:49.12Wormy_lol
15:49.21dromhttp://i.imgur.com/uSZCef1.png
15:49.39Wormy_drom:  Appropriate song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBTg7q9oNc
15:50.26dromWormy_: Thanks! http://i.imgur.com/LqOTJrH.png
15:50.58Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7107ELQvY
15:51.02Wormy_try dat
15:51.20Wormy_There's a way to bypass local blocking
15:51.34Wormy_Embed on Xchat
15:51.48Wormy_Hm not been on that in years
15:52.57Wormy_http://xat.com/Epic_Music_1o1
15:53.11dromEverytime http://i.imgur.com/TVQlcbA.png
15:53.18dromI see.
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15:53.51HachimanHai again
15:55.14OluapPlayerbleh
15:55.56Wormy_Years ago many of hanged out on that
15:56.23HachimanI remember when the shoutbox was still a thing
15:56.38Wormy_lol
15:56.42dromWhat shoutbox?
15:56.55Wormy_Ah that was so limited
15:57.14Wormy_Old wiki style had a shoutbox widget
15:57.29Wormy_And the admins didn't like us using it for some reason
15:58.17OluapPlayerI don't remember that
15:58.20Wormy_I think they wanted us to use IRC
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15:58.36Wormy_Hi
15:58.47Wormy_We were reminiscing the shotbox
15:58.53Wormy_shoutbox
15:59.03dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/TVQlcbA.png
15:59.03XhoWas about to say, shotbox sounds like a drinking game
15:59.12OluapPlayerHi
15:59.15dromhur
15:59.44CyrannianThe shoutbox was fun back in the day
16:00.17Wormy_drom:  My bladder pisses me off in the cinima and pub too
16:00.22Wormy_That sounded wrong
16:00.31OluapPlayerhur
16:01.15drommakes sense though
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16:02.06dino82_hello all!
16:02.11ImperiosHm
16:02.28ImperiosHachiman: Do Arkham games take long to finish?
16:02.39HachimanDunno, never finished one
16:02.43dromHachiman Wormy_: http://imgur.com/gallery/NTUu0u5/comment/436717863
16:02.51dromcheeeeeck the comment
16:03.09ImperiosI am going to be done with exams in two days so yeah
16:03.17ImperiosI'm already planning what I am going to do
16:03.20ImperiosNow ded
16:03.25XhoThe Arkham games really bored me
16:03.28XhoI dunno why
16:03.29HachimanHoly shit
16:03.36HachimanThat camera range
16:03.40OluapPlayerYou're a small guy
16:04.16Wormy_drom:  lol
16:04.55Wormy_"Sarah Palin, stop checking out Russian Girls."
16:05.15Xhohttp://www.unilad.co.uk/articles/dwarf-jailed-for-sticking-dart-to-his-head-then-threatening-to-exterminate-carers/
16:05.29dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/jMORcq7
16:06.04Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB8sAKb9tPU I love it
16:06.43Wormy_Why domonies?
16:06.54Wormy_<PROTECTED>
16:08.57Xho"also no weapons"
16:09.50MonetI can just imagine threash metal music playing whenever Chuck got passionate reading that.
16:09.55Monetthrash*
16:10.11HachimanAye hur
16:11.14HachimanFight Club was always one of my favourite books and movies
16:12.51XhoDrom: "His producer was going to announce it first, but Clarkson beat him to it."
16:13.05dromaye hur
16:13.58Wormy_http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/24/fat-people-are-harder-to-kidnap-pub-landlords-controversial-signs-investigated-by-police-5262876/
16:14.00dromSo this was in "See also" in United Kingdom's article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_in_the_United_Kingdom
16:14.45Monetdrom: We are very proud of our national trails.
16:15.11XhoWe live in a culture where people think it's important to point out that they're offended
16:15.45HachimanAye it sucks
16:16.20dromThat's the whole Europe and America in a sense.
16:16.42Wormy_:dogooders:
16:16.43Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/10402001_791153287672181_8299828558552089898_n.jpg?oh=03e40af520758624e31f77402e55242f&oe=55F0D5D5
16:17.11Hachimanolol
16:17.24dromoh my god
16:17.37dromalso, it needs more jpeg
16:18.01HachimanYeah, holy shit that lack of quality
16:18.21Xhoallahuakbar.tif
16:18.26MonetIts still legeble...just
16:18.44dromuncompressed png for life
16:18.58Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4vjufMVT8&feature=iv&src_vid=RB8sAKb9tPU&annotation_id=annotation_1201961295 I won't deny I had fun watching him tear into these.
16:19.06XhoYou should see some of the PDFs we use at work
16:19.08Wormy_ngh chores
16:19.15XhoThe images on them cause them to be 150 MB +
16:20.26dromMonet: "Bullshitosaur"
16:20.27drommy sides
16:20.46MonetI don't know any dono with shining red eyes
16:21.11Monetdino*
16:21.34MonetAlso its interesting how many toy dinosaurs sound like they're trying to be Godzilla.
16:22.24HachimanI blame the manufacturer
16:22.28dromhttp://i.imgur.com/j0NJRsV.png
16:22.55HachimanThe idea of parasaurolophus honking sounds immensely amusing to me however
16:23.03dromgoogle's auto-captions makes it even more hilarious
16:23.04XhoI really doubt a child (unless he's an aspiring palaeontologist) is going to give a shit about inaccuracies on a toy
16:23.10XhoBut the video's still funny
16:23.40Wormy_awayMonet:  Now I want to go through my old toys and compare the dinosaurs
16:24.09MonetHachiman: I live near a like favourited by geese.
16:25.11MonetHonking gets less funny-sounding when its done by a horny goose.
16:25.38MonetI'l laccept though that I guess a dinosaur honking does have a humour value
16:26.55Monet"Next, a gynecologist will critique Barbie dolls."
16:27.27dromolol
16:30.11MonetXho: A child probably wouldn't.
16:30.19MonetUnti lthe point they realised they were playing with a lie
16:30.40dromWell. Every childhood is filled of lies
16:30.47MonetThat's a good point
16:31.35drom"Can we divide 1 with 2?"            Teacher: "No"                 - several years later -         Upper school teacher: "Yes we can!"
16:32.01MonetI swear I remember one of my parents (one of them a physicist working on the fusion energy project) tried to explain "how is England so cold when its sunny in winter" with "there's a hot sun and a cold sun"
16:32.35MonetAnd I think my dad tried to wean me off velcro by telling me of the finite velcro mines.
16:33.39MonetSeveral years later I learn that Velcro comes from the same stuff as most plastic.
16:35.10Hachiman>velcro mines    >hot sun and cold sun
16:35.11dromSaying "I love you so much" instead of "I fucking hate you fucking whining piece of fat shit"
16:35.49HachimanSaying "It's gonna be alright" instead of "You don't have a fucking chance in this economy that you do not contribute to"
16:36.11MonetMaybe moderation is required?
16:36.41HachimanI think I would be awful at raising a child since I feel I am often emotionally stunted hur
16:36.45MonetI don't agree with wrapping kids i ncotton wool and then blaming the government when they turn out entitled litle shits wh othough tthe world was perfect, but children are also sensetive
16:37.42HachimanWell, the fact I am emotionally stunted and the fact I fucking hate children more than anything
16:39.28MonetI might be onto something because whenever I discuss the work of Roger Penrose or Steven Hawking I get the impression my dad thinks I'm a smart-arse
16:39.51MonetAnd he's the one with a PhD in physics
16:39.58Hachimanhur
16:40.13HachimanIt is probably more endearing if anything
16:40.44XhoIntelligence hm
16:40.58XhoI often waste intelligent remarks which is why I don't talk much at all in real life
16:42.31MonetIt might be I learnt more about the world from the internet than from school.
16:43.30MonetI remember back when I was 10 the teacher asked the class about "what things are in space" and I mentioned black holes.
16:44.03XhoI bet they went "lol no u dum kid"
16:44.23XhoI outsmarted a teacher in science once talking about the ulna and radius bones, she didn't think they existed
16:44.37XhoThis was back in like Year 4
16:44.45MonetCan't recall fully but she might have been more "erm yess but I wasn't expecting that"
16:45.27MonetAnd told me that black holes were mroe secondary school stuff
16:45.28HachimanI think the only time I outsmarted a whale was on the topic of teacher sex
16:45.41Hachiman*outsmarted a teacher on the topic of whale sex rather
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16:46.34MonetThe only time I was taught by teachers about black holes was one lesson in year 11.
16:46.38XhoHachiman: 1.21 gigaWATa
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16:47.56MonetBloody Star Trek taught me more about spacetime than my secondary school did.
16:48.08MonetHi
16:48.31ImpyDroidhttp://games.mail.ru/pre_xl_resize/pic/pc/gallery/ff/ce/38059641.jpeg
16:48.50HachimanMade me jump
16:49.01MonetThat a badger?
16:49.12HachimanLooks more like a weasel to me
16:49.19HachimanI fucking hate badgers hur
16:49.41dromLooks more a opossum
16:50.18MonetBadgers are cousins of weasels, minks and ferrets
16:50.43dromYep, definitely a badger
16:51.14MonetI'm more worried abotu that girl losing her face then
16:52.30MonetBadgers, along with wolverines, are the thugs of the Mustelidae family.
16:53.28HachimanHuh, did not think they were related to wolverines
16:53.33HachimanThat explains their shitty attitude
16:53.52HachimanThe worst one has to be the honey badger however
16:53.59dromI am always pleased to see a roadkill badger
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17:05.49Wormy_awayMy teacher tried to make out the Earth's outer and inner core were cold.  When I told her they were as hot as the surface of the Sun, she laughed at me and said our feet would burn :/
17:06.27Wormy_awayMonet:  I'm glad you are a fellow fan of Roger Penrose
17:08.21Wormy_awayA scientific journal wants Interstellar shown in schools btw http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-33229729
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17:10.41IHGNUGood evening
17:11.12HachimanI think I might have a go at redesigning Savas, an old character of mine I never really had the chance to show off
17:11.40HachimanSupposed to be the physically strongest mortal mainstream Zazane in current history
17:12.27ImpyDroidThat golden buff guy?
17:12.37HachimanYeah]
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17:12.53Wormy_awayhi and hi
17:13.23CatfaceHello.
17:13.35Catfacetosses Cyrannian off from a cliff
17:13.49ImpyDroidhttp://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Putin.jpg ...That speech is terribly mistranslated
17:13.50HachimanGonna revise him to be the leader of the Freeblood Realm - an older empire of Zazane than the Second Sovereign Domain which managed to evade the whole enslavement ordeal following the disappearance of Zagdala
17:14.08ImpyDroidI saw the original Russian speech and it is much tamer and hardly offends minorities
17:14.33HachimanThe Second Sovereign Domain consists of the Zazane that managed to liberate themselves and slave descendants
17:16.36Cyranniantosses a cliff off of Catface
17:16.59MonetSo the Freedblood Realm was a peer of the Third Sovereign Dominion?
17:17.05MonetDomain*
17:17.10HachimanKinda, it was a love-hate thing
17:17.58HachimanThe Freeblood Realm seeks to emulate the First Sovereign Domain under Zagdala's reign while the Second/Third Sovereign Domain sought to be its own thing
17:18.23MonetI can see why there would be tension
17:20.06MonetSince by the sounds of it, the fall of the First Sovereign Domain was due to Zagdala vanishing. So Seconds and Thirds would consider that a weak leadership structure.
17:21.26HachimanYeah, a majority of Zazane in the Second/Third Sovereign Domain thought that Zagdala had betrayed them by leaving them to their fate
17:21.54HachimanAlthough like a third of the populace thought that Zagdala would return to reclaim his empire
17:22.26MonetAnd the Freedbloods, not being in the First Domain when it fell, presumed that aside from the emperor vanishing it was a good system?
17:22.44HachimanKinda yeah
17:24.23HachimanOne idea I had as to why the SD and the FBR would dislike one another is that following the foundation of the SSD after the liberation of Zazane slaves, the FBR would have attempted to draw Zazane from that into their own realm
17:24.44HachimanWhen the liberated Zazane would have wanted their own sorta cultural identity
17:25.22MonetIts fun to imagine what woudl happen if Zagdala did return. But the ambiguity of where he went or if he's coming back is also good for social dynamics. Like the legends of how King Arthur would one day return from Avalon to rule England. Problem is, the current queen of England has a teeny fraction of the authority a 5th century king would have had.
17:25.48HachimanAye
17:26.00HachimanPlus it has been proven that Descended Zazane are a bad idea
17:26.11HachimanWhich is partially why the First Domain fell in the first place
17:26.33MonetI am getting tones of Imperial Russia and the Holy Roman Empire from the Free Blood Realm.
17:27.55MonetFactions that while not having an actual blood connection to the throne of Rome, try to emulate the great empire even though the genuine descendants - which historically was Byzantium - were...less than perfect.
17:28.05HachimanAye
17:29.43MonetPerhaps the the point where S/TSD considers the FBR a bunch of kids pretending to be somethign they have no true heritage to.
17:30.33MonetI like the sound of them
17:31.10Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11659364_10152939279004856_4851213373220737672_n.jpg?oh=b9ae6da649b48fc6daf89b199ed3f5b6&oe=561DCCB7
17:31.29MonetWouldn't that mean that BoW citizens would be reviled by the Drraconizane Dominion
17:32.06HachimanI think most Zazane would be reviled by the Dominion hur
17:32.19HachimanXho: Daww
17:32.29MonetI mean aside from the leadership being a horde of filthy hybrids.
17:32.57HachimanWell consider Tyraz is popularly despised by his people due to his heritage and supernatural affinity
17:33.47MonetZazane - You mean...the dominion's leaders are an entire family of that? KMN plz KMN.
17:34.30XhoKithworto - not much goin 4 u eh
17:37.04MonetLooking at history, Kordan's idea of splitting the empire up between his offspring is probably what's keeping the family fro mcollapsing under the weight of the leadership
17:37.22MonetKOrdan's lived so long that none of those kids will be getting the crow ni nthe forseeable future
17:37.47HachimanIt is surprising none of his kids have made an attempt on his life yet
17:38.00MonetWell, Kragh could have
17:38.13HachimanWell yeah, of course Kragh could have but Kragh is Kragh
17:38.29HachimanIf anything, he would have just wanted an excuse to fight with Kordan rather than rule his empire
17:38.54MonetEmperor Kragh - How da fuk do I empire.
17:40.01MonetDividing his emprie between his children would have meant that all of them could become emperors.
17:40.40MonetTHey also have universes to expand into.
17:41.04MonetMaybe the offspring do have the odd war for supremacy with each other to keep things interesting?
17:41.12HachimanYeah that makes sense
17:41.21HachimanIf not them, then lesser rulers of their kingdoms
17:42.14MonetI was als othinking that there could be more kingdoms than the four we know.
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17:42.28Xhomoar children
17:42.38HachimanHai Imp
17:42.42MonetHi
17:42.47ImperiosHi
17:43.05ImperiosHachiman Xho Monet: https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/613748521926307840 Allahu akbar is confused
17:43.11Wormy_Zombeavers trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7onFrBK_hKE
17:43.17MonetThree of the four are territory owned by Kordan's eldest children, and one of them is owned by a princess held in extremely high regard.
17:43.35MonetImperios: Hachi told me earlier
17:43.46XhoDoes make wonder how the Draconizane and the Xhodominion would see each other
17:43.57ImperiosRight
17:44.23Monet"They haven't got an ounce of bacon (or potato for that matter) in them but watch the muslims complain"
17:44.39XhoI think it was in pretty bad taste though
17:44.49XhoRegardless of whether Muslims are offended or not
17:45.08MonetMuslim - Still tastes of harem so no.
17:45.14Xhoheh
17:45.24XhoI'm gonna go try and remake Kitoruka I think
17:45.52XhoI think I might alter his appearance so he looks less Kicathian and more god-of-death-ish
17:46.12MonetXho: That might be a good question actually. The two dominions are somewhat similar only the Dracdominion doesn't reign over hell or use armieso f demons
17:46.26Wormy_In my honest opinion.  I'm doubtful those Pringles contain any meat.
17:46.46MonetAlthough maybe we consider it one of the few powers that could fight the Xhodominion head-on?
17:46.53ImperiosIt's still kind of funny
17:46.55Wormy_Its just a bit ironic
17:46.58XhoAt a considerable degree yeah
17:47.07XhoMost of Kithworto's talk with Kordan was not to align with them as they'd be effectively enslaved by the Xhodocto if they did
17:47.49XhoI mean the Xhodominion in themselves are pretty much as loyal as they are scared of the Xhodocto in some instance
17:47.53Xhoinstances
17:47.53Xhoeh
17:47.56MonetWormy_: I think the only crisps whose flavour consists of bits of what the packet says is ready salted.
17:48.08Wormy_true
17:48.22MonetEverything else is chemicals designed ot emulate the taste of what it says on the packet.
17:49.03MonetXho: The two going int oopen war could be disastrous.
17:49.24XhoAngazhar - do it do it do it
17:50.04MonetDisastrous for everyone else that is
17:50.24XhoAngazhar - I SED DO IT
17:50.41MonetYou remaking Kitoruka has given me a thought
17:50.49XhoAngazhar wouldn't care if they obliterated themselves in the process, it's all fun and games to him
17:51.05MonetHe's lived for over 100,000 years, would Kordan still look like a giant-ass Draconizane?
17:51.21MonetOr would he end up...different?
17:51.28XhoNot sure
17:51.55XhoKitoruka being a Xi'Arazulha has some reason to appear messed up
17:52.03XhoDunno how Zazane Descension works over time
17:52.03HachimanWell if he is a Controlled Demon, he can appear however he wants really
17:52.10XhoLike that apparently
17:52.18HachimanIf he is Uncontrolled, yeah he would tend to appear more beastly and feral
17:52.41MonetHachiman: That's what's making me think he'd make himself look more supernatural. Not demonic no but maybe more...alien
17:52.41Wormy_Monet, Catface:  Are you hungry?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEv54rLvgs
17:52.54HachimanSuch as how Tyraz has grown over time; losing his pupils and irises and appearing more daemonic and such
17:52.56HachimanHe could do yeah
17:53.27MonetIn theory, advances in genetics and biotechnology means Draconizane are going ot be a little different from what Draconizane were like when he was mortal.
17:54.00dromGive me a reason why I shouldn't colonize Mirus.
17:54.30XhoDrom: Because
17:54.32Xhodunno
17:54.44MonetHe's already got alien features like glowing white eyes
17:55.02XhoThinking about it, Kitoruka should have a myriad of power over Hez'Kalka due to the fact that Hez is not an essence godform
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17:55.33Wormy_wb
17:55.45Cyranniandanke kind sir
17:55.45dromwb
17:55.53dromYe
17:55.55XhoWUB WUB WUB
17:56.26dromforces a charge of C4 down Cyrannian's throat
17:56.32XhoALLAHU AKBAR
17:56.48XhoThat wasn't the time to do it was it
17:56.50HachimanSkrillex Ackbar
17:56.55dromThis is how you exteriminate the dinosaurs.
17:57.09MonetXho: Makes sense. Kitoruka's nature of being formerly dead and even when alive he was a demigod s othat probably liberates him somewhat
17:57.25Cyrannianprojectile vomits the C4 down drom's throat
17:57.35Xhoew
17:57.44dromAte a Vesuvio pizza with Jalapeño, I think I'm regretting it.
17:57.55dromMy stomach is burning.
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18:00.29HachimanFucking
18:01.38dromshis out the C4 in an arch down Cyrannian's throat
18:06.49Wormy_This is pretty sick https://vimeo.com/43595349
18:06.55Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/IVelh
18:08.00XhoWormy_: Stop watching weird things
18:08.47dromXho: ur normal
18:09.02Wormy_Why, my inner being needs it
18:12.00Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/SOmJnsG.png?1 What I currently have down for Savas
18:12.06HachimanIt is not quite finished yet
18:12.14ImperiosHachiman: Zazane Custodes
18:12.18HachimanAye hur
18:12.29HachimanI imagine most Zazane would be toned and defined
18:12.29ImperiosI like his boney costume
18:12.36HachimanSpikey armour hur
18:12.37MonetThat's some pretty nice armour yeah.
18:12.46dromAye
18:12.53MonetThe breastplate looks very well-carved
18:13.35HachimanI should also note his horns are asymmetrical
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18:13.50HachimanHis right one is longer and larger than the left one
18:16.57ETS2JackalHachiman: Oh, you've got my imagination racing with that one. ;D
18:17.16HachimanI am talking about horns hur
18:19.53ETS2JackalWhat type of horns? Are they long, hard, and pointed?
18:20.31HachimanOh very, about as thick as they are erect
18:21.13HachimanThey're easy to grab on to and you will find that they are very stiff as well
18:21.25dromHold on a fucking minute
18:21.37ETS2JackalImpyDroid couldn't handle them it seems, but I MOST CERTAINLY CAN.
18:21.39dromkeratin...
18:21.48drompenis?
18:23.32ETS2JackalYes, we are talking about the penis, didn't our suggestiveness indicate that? Or are we talking about something else...
18:23.36ETS2Jackal:X
18:24.18MonetHachiman: His eyes look quite itnense
18:24.37Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/e0B0sba.png?1 And here is the finished product
18:26.03MonetVery dignified
18:26.30ETS2JackalYeah I think he looks good, very powerful looking.
18:26.33MonetThough I admit I am a little dissapointed he's not golden anymore.
18:26.42MonetBut red works.
18:27.18HachimanI was considering gold but honestly I felt red works more hur
18:27.21MonetHe's still distinguishable by those massive, stiff horns.
18:27.38HachimanAye
18:27.53ETS2JackalHehehe, yeah. >:3
18:28.22Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/da2N498
18:28.38Hachimanolol
18:28.44HachimanI love these
18:29.13Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/1qqDr
18:31.13Wormy_now for awwwfest http://imgur.com/gallery/el1fa
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18:34.48MonetWormy_: Ceraintly boosts your faith i nhumanity that
18:35.14dromTechno: The taxon uses so many templates
18:35.41TechnobliteratorIt uses SMW syntax
18:35.51dromI know right
18:35.54MonetActually that clip of dolphisn reminds me of a recent article from scientific American
18:36.02dromSMW's syntax is terrible to be honest
18:36.22TechnobliteratorI'd be inclined to agree, but I really don't have the time to rewrite it
18:37.10dromTechno: Aha, it's fine. I'm already on it. http://i.imgur.com/dtEMROg.png
18:37.26MonetDolphisn ahve been found to form alliances with fishermen to hunt for and catch fish.
18:38.28Wormy_I'm about of touch with the wiki, being rather inactive over the past year or so.  What do you think might be breaking the taxonomy?
18:38.41Wormy_Monet:  Yes I saw that on Human Planet
18:39.20Wormy_an amazing union
18:39.32Wormy_one day we will have sea dogs
18:40.29dromWormy_: Hm, I'm actually working on a copy of the source in my own userspace. The Mediawiki and SMW combined somehow allows me to preview the changes by switching out the template name to mine and spamming preview button after every change I make in my userpage.
18:40.47ImperiosSpeaking of historical characters, I made this
18:40.55Imperioshttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/12/Clericarch_Jaharan.png/revision/latest?cb=20150624184023 *allahu akbar intensifies*
18:41.19Wormy_cool
18:41.23HachimanJesus
18:41.25HachimanThat's pretty cool
18:41.28dromLooks more like an egyptian priest to me
18:41.37dromOr emperor, whatever
18:41.38MonetThat's a scary-lookign right eye
18:42.03MonetHis cane is a lovely touch
18:42.34HachimanSavas - priest fagit
18:44.02dromTechno: It seems like you can define expressions to a var and then use it
18:45.54Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/1PEJq
18:48.02Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/xqlFiUF.png
18:50.48dromSo I find out that the taxon itself is divided into a list of its' children, a cell containing a random creature picture, amd a reduant cell saying "error"
18:55.22HachimanHm I need a good title for Savas' position in the Brood considering he leads the entirety of the Brood's terrestrial legions
18:55.38HachimanI was thinking of going with "Warlord" or something along those lines
18:55.55HachimanAlthough I figured it'd need to sound a bit more official-sounding
18:59.34dromTechno: I located the culpirt. But fixing it won't hinder me from redesiging the taxon listing system
19:00.30Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/Kitoruka2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150624185746 On the scheme of redoing characters
19:00.38ImperiosPreceptor Militant? Lord Militant? War Preceptor? Exalted Chiliarch?
19:01.08HachimanHm I like Lord Militant
19:01.45ImperiosIt's kinda Warhammer-esque
19:01.49ImperiosBut I guess that fits
19:01.53HachimanYeah
19:07.01HachimanAlso I just discovered that the metallic hands of Ferrus Manus were made from necrodermis - as in, the Necron material that has regenerative properties
19:07.03Xhodam u all
19:07.10HachimanOh right didn't see
19:07.18HachimanJesus
19:07.42HachimanLooks very intimidating and almost feminine in a way
19:07.57XhoKitoruka - genderless u dik
19:08.17ImperiosIt does not look like a Kicath anymore
19:08.25ImperiosAnd yeah Kitoruka is a beautiful princess
19:08.37XhoKitoruka - tell me i'm pretty                  Angazhar - no
19:08.52XhoBut yeah Kitoruka is a Xi'Arazulha
19:08.59XhoIn the same way Kithworto is
19:09.06ImperiosWill he still have a Kicath form?
19:09.17XhoNot much point for him to have a Kicathian form
19:10.07XhoIt makes sense for Kithworto have one as he's one of the councillors of the Polar Crystal Alliance
19:10.29Hachimanbut hao he supposed 2 fuk ova kicath
19:10.30XhoKitoruka on the other hand is a councillor filled to the brim with eldritch abominations
19:10.45Xhocouncillor on a council*
19:11.45MonetXho: Yeah he looks very alien
19:12.08MonetDefinitely no longer looks like a Kicath
19:12.10XhoYup
19:12.20XhoNowhere near as scary as Kithworto's form
19:12.42Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0f/Maktanshatinaknataz%C3%A1n.png/revision/latest?cb=20140705150949 Which is that
19:12.43MonetI should redo Maleus maybe since he's an ash demon made of the cremated remains of his victims.
19:13.28XhoI need a quote for Kitoruka now
19:13.38XhoI don't there's many characters who have encountered Kitoruka
19:14.24XhoPerhaps a character from the Dominion then
19:15.59MonetI'll have a think
19:16.20Monetbrb, graphics tablet is playing up
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19:21.00Quark8Hello.
19:22.52dromTechno Wormy_: Fixed the first culprit. http://i.imgur.com/KOItKBG.png
19:23.02MonetXho: "It would be a mistake to assume that Kitoruka Aknatazan was anything like his brother. The entity who bore that name is gone, instead, we have one of the most feared generals the Dominion could devise. Were he to ever set foot on the battlefield, the conflict would end in a heartbeat as his rage and malevolence consumed all who opposed his authority, and damned to torment eternally in the bowels of Inferno" - Sarec
19:23.14TechnobliteratorIt's better to wait for Wikia's servers to fix
19:23.16Xhodat works
19:23.17TechnobliteratorOr rewrite the whole thin
19:23.19Technobliteratorg
19:23.57Imperioshttp://images.wikia.com/spore/images/3/3c/Libertus_Kikras_Attack.png Look what I found
19:24.12dromNo Techno, apparently they delievered an update of the SMW which changes the #ask's behaviour.
19:24.35Technobliteratorthen rewriting it is better
19:24.35dromIt will by default ALWAYS put the requested values in a TABLE.
19:24.48dromThere is no way disabling it so far I knpw
19:26.58Wormy_Imperios:  http://i.imgur.com/fLrowkK.png
19:30.23dromTechno: I'll replace the old code in the Template:Taxon with mine, currently I've to fix that listing and give the creature classification a new template.
19:30.45TechnobliteratorIt won't be easy
19:30.49TechnobliteratorThere might be a few glitches
19:31.12dromThere is no such thing as "easy" or "hard" in my dictionary.
19:32.41Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/jEqsHXX.png
19:34.52Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dominion_of_the_Xhodocto#Government Well there we go
19:35.37Imperiosdrom: Genius
19:36.09dromImperios: Wot
19:36.16ImperiosOoh oops
19:36.23ImperiosMeant to say Wormy_
19:36.27dromhur
19:37.18Wormy_Imperios:  Also http://jimllpaintit.tumblr.com/post/92549000134/abu-hamza-trying-to-change-a-duvet-cover-as
19:37.42drom"Mechanicoas gyronia"
19:37.54dromSeems like someone likes gyros
19:39.19MonetHm. I'd like to redo Maleus a little but I'm not as confident with Spore as I once was
19:39.26Imperiosdrom: Alla, alla, allahu - AKBAAAAAAAR!
19:39.37MonetIf anyone's okay having a go at making Maleus I could return the gratitude with a picture
19:40.19Imperios*Wormy_
19:40.26dromImperios: This must be a mistake, I didn't order kebab.
19:40.28ImperiosSorry these pictures are usually what drom sends to me
19:41.17Imperiosdrom Wormy_: http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%81-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0-468228.jpeg "For our one true God!" "Allahu akbar!" "Wow are these guys on drugs?"
19:41.41dromolol
19:42.01Imperioshttps://2ch.hk/po/src/9464408/14351618191640.jpg Ukrainian spies
19:42.36drom230 MegaOinks
19:43.01Quark8test
19:43.08dromHold on, it is Oinks not MegaOinks
19:43.20Wormy_Imperios:  I like
19:44.16Wormy_Dayumn, what is wrong with our generation http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disgusting-state-student-houses-end-3766856
19:44.30Imperioshttps://2ch.hk/po/src/9468061/14351729254160.jpg Holy shit
19:44.56Wormy_That actually hurts my eyes, like that horrible 4 eyed ad
19:45.02Wormy_Andmy head
19:46.07Wormy_http://unthinkablethinking.com/feed-images/illusions/four-eyes.450.jpg
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19:47.32Wormy_hi
19:47.37dromWormy_: http://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2012/10/threeeyes.jpg
19:47.47dromhttp://petapixel.com/2012/10/09/photoshop-fail-leaves-girl-with-an-extra-eye-in-official-class-portrait/
19:48.20Wormy_drom:  Speak of the devil http://a5.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple/v4/a3/8f/1f/a38f1fd4-8ea2-9015-d6c4-4d31ed5f0ff1/screen320x480.jpeg
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19:48.49dromwhy
19:48.52dromjust why
19:48.55Wormy_ohgod that error
19:50.12Xhoreturn of ups
19:50.16Wormy_orwasit
19:50.21Imperiosorganises a referendum in Tybusen, 106% of Tybusen wants to join Imperios
19:50.21XhoOluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/Kitoruka2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150624185746 check dis shi
19:50.24Cyrannian~tickle OluapPlayer
19:50.24infobotACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
19:50.37OluapPlayer~strangle Cyrannian
19:50.37infobotACTION strangles Cyrannian with a mouse cord.
19:50.54OluapPlayerXho: New pic after ten thousand years
19:51.03Xhoaye
19:51.04OluapPlayerAlso spiky limbs
19:51.08Imperioshttps://2ch.hk/po/src/9466439/14351735732190.webm
19:51.19Cyrannianenjoys the experience intensely
19:51.24OluapPlayerHe looks charismatic in that pic
19:51.29OluapPlayerIt's probably the pose
19:51.39XhoKitoruka is the interim Emperor of the Kicath Empire
19:51.52XhoGuess he needs some charisma to lead a population like the Kicath
19:52.24OluapPlayerKitoruka - do as i say or extinction
19:52.27TybusenHello
19:52.30ImperiosKitoruka - I'M FABULOUS
19:52.49TybusenImperios: Historically, I am Imperios land
19:52.49ImperiosTybusen: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIR5BjCW8AAWlcR.jpg Seen this?
19:52.56ImperiosIndeed
19:53.02Tybusenwow
19:53.03Tybusenthat's
19:53.04Tybusenwow
19:53.51dromWhat
19:54.02dromOh snap
19:54.07OluapPlayerI should mention I have no idea what to do with Khinazan so I don't think I'll be using him
19:54.12Wormy_What.  What is it?
19:54.16OluapPlayerSo he's yours again
19:54.31XhoNOOOOOOH
19:54.34XhoDelete the page then
19:54.37XhoNo use for it
19:54.38dromImperios http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nxLIgEmmTFc/hqdefault.jpg
19:55.04OluapPlayerdum
19:55.08ImperiosAye it is
20:00.30Wormy_http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/disability-protesters-try-to-storm-commons-during-pmqs-10341942.html?fb_action_ids=10206722601724976&fb_action_types=og.shares
20:01.24Xho"Some 30 demonstrators, including around 10 in wheelchairs"
20:01.28XhoCan you imagine that
20:01.38XhoPeople in weelchairs invading the House of Commons
20:02.21CatfaceIn the US people in motorized wheelchairs will run you over.
20:04.14MonetWormy: Don't need to, saw the footage
20:04.43Wormy_That happens here lol.  There used to be a man who in one who rushed at me and other people, and I saw him run it into a pushchair
20:04.59Wormy_in my town
20:05.07Wormy_the bloke enjoyed it
20:05.20Wormy_I think he was terminally ill and thought "fuckit"
20:20.27dromWikia's markup HTML handling is brilliant.
20:20.31dromJust brilliant
20:20.33dromJust
20:20.34dromFucking
20:20.36dromBrilliant
20:20.41drom<PROTECTED>
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20:21.13Zillafire101Hello all.
20:25.08dromHello
20:27.29dromFINALLY
20:27.31dromFUCKING
20:27.36dromFINALLY!
20:28.41Zillafire101Wut.
20:28.45dromTechno: I got it working now.
20:28.46dromhttp://i.imgur.com/k53F24h.png
20:28.56CyrannianYay
20:28.59Technobliteratorn1
20:29.24dromTechno: As in "none"
20:29.50Technobliteratoras in nice one
20:30.09dromNow I've to put custom classes so I can get started on the CSS.
20:30.35dromBut before I do, should I deliever the new revision to the Template:Classification?
20:30.56TechnobliteratorSure
20:31.04TechnobliteratorIs this using SMW?
20:31.15dromUnfortunately, yes.
20:31.34TechnobliteratorWell, it'll be good as a temporary solution, then
20:31.37TechnobliteratorBut not a permanent one
20:31.50dromI added another template to the mess so.
20:31.54TechnobliteratorIdeally, the best permanent solution would use JavaScript to find taxon entries
20:32.18TechnobliteratorAnd use Lua to replicate Navbox and Infobox functions
20:32.22HachimanI keep reading SMW as SJW
20:32.38TechnobliteratorBut, again, unless I can rewrite the Navbox and Infoboxes for other wikis as well as this one, I won't have the time to. :/
20:33.00dromTechno: In that case, the JS is client-side.
20:33.09dromIt isn't run at all by the server.
20:33.17Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11170314_1494409570849348_1966766895918616093_n.png?oh=682476f37e1415f13dc175b8f8c83f71&oe=55EB5AFA
20:33.17TechnobliteratorRight, so it'll be the last thing to load on the page
20:33.23TechnobliteratorAnd thus, will not slow down the loading of everything else
20:33.33dromBut I may be wrong, there is probably a JS framework run by the server after all.
20:33.35ImperiosMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q75uHc42mo4
20:33.52ImperiosHi Zilla
20:33.56ImperiosZillafire101: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIR5BjCW8AAWlcR.jpg Genius\
20:34.11Zillafire101Wut?
20:34.34dromBacon flavored chips in a muslim shop.
20:34.59dromBacon is a pork product, and pork is haram in Islam
20:35.52Technobliteratordrom, it is possible to use JS to pull up things from the site
20:36.07TechnobliteratorIt would be the best alternative to SMW
20:36.27TechnobliteratorBut until I begin my CS course and learn JS, I won't be able to help there, sadly
20:36.36TechnobliteratorThere's only so much self-teaching can do when it comes to JS
20:36.40dromI thought you already knew JS
20:36.47Zillafire101Oh, I see thatn now. My computer is acting stupid.
20:36.52TechnobliteratorI know bits of JS, but I'm not fluent
20:36.53Technobliterator:/
20:36.59dromalright then
20:37.20dromstill, another reason to start on our own domain.
20:38.06Technobliteratorwell, ideally I'd have Lua and JS completely replace SMW so we never have to rely on that piece of shit again
20:38.13Technobliteratorthen I'd ask Wikia to uninstall the extension
20:39.09ImperiosZillafire101: https://2ch.hk/po/src/9466439/14351735732190.webm
20:39.10dromWell. Wikia likes to control what we should use.
20:39.24Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Trivia#Characters_which_need_an_updated_model - This won't be fun
20:39.48dromCyrannian: u dun goofed
20:40.34TechnobliteratorWikia have no real control over Lua or JS, considering, well, they're purely programming languages
20:40.50Technobliteratorthey can't exactly just rewrite them to fuck us over
20:40.52Technobliterator:   |
20:42.25dromI doubt.
20:42.57dromThey can remove the LUA support if they want to. Since it is an extension after all.
20:46.07dromNew version's out. Please test it out! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Animalia
20:47.42CyrannianVery well done drom! tis excellent work
20:51.04dromI know the little glitch where classifications without age and author would appear as [[User:|]]. Report me them how much you want to, but I don't have the energy to even bother to fix them now.
20:51.29dromyear, not age
20:55.25OluapPlayerCyrannian: finish models grrr
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20:58.23Knight_AlienHello
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20:59.34HachimanFucking goddamn
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21:08.28OluapPlayerFucking goddamnit all
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21:23.41TybusenI've recently discovered that my computer seems to have a tendency to overheat when I run STO
21:23.46HachimanFucking
21:23.58TybusenSo it kinda sucks
21:26.38dromTybusen, I discovered few weeks ago that my computer has expotentionally become slower and slower with the time.
21:27.04dromSo it takes 5 minutes to come into the desktop. But runs fine as like nothing has happened.
21:27.12TybusenI think that tends to happen with most computers
21:27.22TybusenOver time, of course
21:27.29TybusenThough how old is your computer?
21:27.53dromleast 3
21:28.17TybusenOh
21:28.46drom3 years
21:29.19TybusenHmm
21:29.33TybusenRelative speaking that's not that old for a computer
21:29.44TybusenMaybe you should get the hardware checked?
21:30.55Wormy_Clear out that recycle bin.  Clean dust from the computer.  Get rid of unecessary programs and addons.  Clear up start up programs to essential ones.  Update Windows.  That will clean things up a little bit.
21:31.02dromI got a summerjob granting me about 1700-1800 euros per month. So I'm definitely looking to getting new hardware for my computer.
21:31.15dromBy end of the month
21:31.15TybusenI know that my laptop's battery needs to be replaced soon but I don't know if that's why my laptop overheats when running STO
21:31.39TybusenMaybe it's the startup programs that are slowing down your computer
21:31.50TybusenEspecially if you're only experiencing the slowdown at startup
21:32.10Wormy_I find that is normally the major factor.
21:33.09TybusenMy computer is probably almost 5 years old, though it still runs relatively well
21:33.24XhoDrom: Jesus Christ what
21:33.28XhoWhat kind of job is that
21:33.28TybusenI'm considering getting a new one but I'm going to wait to see how Windows 10 turns out
21:33.37dromXho: Intern IT support
21:33.55XhoAh right
21:35.04XhoIT is always a well paying thing from what I gather
21:35.44TybusenWormy_: Do you know if STO is a resource-intensive program, relative to other MMOs?
21:35.44dromIt is. It can be a fun job unless you are working with dinosaurs
21:36.38XhoI know that IT Consultants in the USA usually have a salary of $60,000 + annually
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21:38.29OluapPlayerGoddamn this laptop's internet is terrible
21:38.39OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Slumbering_Lands anyway I'm doing a thing
21:40.42HachimanAw yis
21:41.19XhoEh whatever floats your boat
21:41.44OluapPlayersame can b said 2 u
21:41.57XhoPersonally I'm not into the idea of having dinosaurs in the Fantasyverse but then again not many users are into the idea of a colossal dragon god of darkness
21:42.08HachimanBut
21:42.14HachimanIt's a fantasy universe
21:42.22XhoYeah I know
21:42.22HachimanIf we can have dragons we can have dinosaurs hur
21:42.30XhoDinosaurs just personally don't interest me much
21:42.41Tybusenso are we using Gorf as a standard placeholder image now or does the island just look like Gorf viewed from outer space
21:42.43HachimanNo wonder why you hated Jurassic World hur
21:42.47XhoTrue
21:42.55HachimanTybusen: The latter
21:43.00OluapPlayerYou can ignore it if you're not a fan
21:43.09Xhomust never ignore stoof
21:43.13Tybusen"It's a Gorf as viewed from above!"
21:43.18Xhomust plan destruction of all living things equally
21:43.20OluapPlayerIt's nonetheless an open area for people to do stuff at
21:43.45HachimanNeeds ape-men with dino-mounts
21:44.00XhoPelagrios - better have rum there
21:44.29HachimanOhgod imagine a race of giant sapient gorilla barbarians living there
21:44.44HachimanLiterally King Kong
21:44.48XhoAlso known as Southampton
21:44.53HachimanOh wow
21:45.27Xho"KONG KONG KONG"           Pelagrios - pronounced 'rum'
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21:45.38OluapPlayer_Jesus fucking christ
21:45.57HachimanOluapPlayer_: Needs ape-men with dino-mounts and giant gorilla barbarians
21:46.02OluapPlayer_As for ape-men, I imagine the island having gigantopithecus in it
21:46.05HachimanOr just giant gorillas in general
21:46.09OluapPlayer_As well as giant sloths
21:46.12OluapPlayer_Because sloths
21:46.22Hachiman"What rhymes with sloth? Rape."
21:46.38XhoNeeds void-corrupted dinosaurs because lovecraftian mindfucks abound
21:47.39HachimanSapient gigantopithecus sound fucking terrifying actually
21:47.45HachimanConsidering how large they are
21:47.53XhoIn all seriousness I don't have much use for void-corrupted dinosaurs
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21:49.12OluapPlayerWAKE ME UP INSIDE
21:49.17Hachimanolol
21:49.39OluapPlayerNow I forgot what I was gonna say
21:49.42OluapPlayerFucking internet
21:49.52XhoOn the other hand, I do want to add a fantasy-oriented Zí-Jittorám race but I might just do that for the Tropical Lands
21:50.02XhoBecause giant scary Forest Elementals
21:50.05OluapPlayerdunt u got enough op things alredy
21:50.20XhoI got so many op things they all cancel each other out
21:50.25XhoTIS THE PERFECT PLOY
21:50.45Hachimandats not how it works in a collab universe do
21:51.03dromnot sure if play or plot
21:51.10XhoEither that or I turn them into icy versions and throw them on the Algid Haven
21:51.11dromif not both
21:51.11OluapPlayerI have no access to my PC right now so pictures for that page will have to wait
21:51.22XhoIce Zí-Jittorám
21:51.33XhoNow that's scary
21:51.57OluapPlayerget meh'd
21:52.05Xhonooh
21:52.15XhoBah I'll consider it but I probably won't since laziness
21:52.41XhoSpeaking of that there was something I wanted to remove from fiction but I can't remember what
21:52.50OluapPlayeru fail
21:57.17HachimanHm
21:57.24OluapPlayerdunt u hm at me u shit
21:57.34OluapPlayerur not imp
21:57.43dromXho: Imagine spending all that money on Mann Co keys
21:57.46HachimanNow that I am revising Keldar I remember lore about having her insert a metal tampon into herself to remain chaste and celibate
21:57.51XhoDear me
21:57.51HachimanThat was fucked up
21:58.02XhoHachiman: god what
21:58.03OluapPlayerkek
21:58.09OluapPlayerI remember that
21:58.19XhoI've been trying to save up money for a vast number of things
21:58.22OluapPlayerThat was back when she was a nun
21:58.24XhoPrimarily a bass guitar amplifier
21:58.44XhoTattoos sort of as well but I'd imagine they'd cost £800 - £1000 per arm
21:59.05HachimanWhat sorta tattoos?
21:59.26XhoSleeve tattoos mainly
21:59.38XhoI wanted to get fractal/geometric patterns
22:00.09HachimanI wanted to get a tattoo of my face tattooed onto my face and a tattoo of my genitals tattooed onto my genitals
22:00.41Xhohttps://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0269/54/1378092331536.jpg
22:00.48OluapPlayerWhat the fuck
22:01.33XhoCould go like Rick Genest
22:02.22Xhohttp://meetsobsession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/rick-genest-image1.jpg Got a pretty awesome thing going on there
22:02.31XhoWouldn't personally do that to myself but he's famous for it now
22:03.01HachimanSpooky
22:04.32OluapPlayerI'm still surprised by the fact the largest mammal ever discovered was a rhinoceros
22:04.43OluapPlayerIt doesn't even look like a rhinoceros
22:04.50OluapPlayerland mammal*
22:05.30HachimanOh?
22:05.42OluapPlayerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraceratherium
22:05.49HachimanOh that
22:06.08XhoI was just about to say 'Indricotherium' there
22:06.40HachimanI remember watching a show about those once which made me not like them
22:06.47OluapPlayerIt looks more like a giant tapir
22:06.50dromThere is even an European politican who has tattoos all over across his body.
22:07.02XhoI saw the skull of an Indricotherium in the NY Museum of Natural History
22:07.05XhoFuck me it was huge
22:07.25HachimanLike there was a mother and her kid and they were travelling alone when the mother gets with some elder male, has a younger kid with him, and the older child is forced to leave the family
22:07.39HachimanAnd he has to survive on his own which turns him into a territorial shithead
22:07.41Xhohttp://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/files/2013/05/paraceratherium-restoration.jpg
22:08.14OluapPlayerIsn't that basically how elephants work
22:08.21HachimanYeah
22:09.59OluapPlayerCurrent Earth is boring, animals too tiny
22:10.31XhoDunno about deep sea creatures though
22:10.54HachimanLower oxygen levels means stuff gets smaller
22:11.23dromXho: Fuck me, that's a cross-breed of a tapire and an elephant
22:12.08OluapPlayerYeah, the deep sea is actually inhabited by small stuff
22:12.17OluapPlayerThe colossal squid is an exception
22:13.00HachimanSmall, but exceptionally freaky stuff
22:13.15OluapPlayerugly as fuk manlets
22:13.59dromgiant isopods
22:14.12dromToo bad that fire doesn't work underwater
22:14.33dromBecause I want lit all that deep sea on fire.
22:15.00HachimanOceans work underwater though
22:15.04HachimanOceans of brine that is
22:15.12dromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_isopod
22:15.17dromThose ugly motherfuckers
22:15.33HachimanThey look like giant lice
22:15.37HachimanKinda cute though
22:16.01OluapPlayerNgh
22:16.04OluapPlayerI hate these
22:16.05dromloses his sanity and lits Hachiman on fire
22:16.19dromBURN YOU HERETIC FILTH
22:16.21OluapPlayerThey look like gigantic cockroaches with extra hell
22:17.17OluapPlayerI can't fathom how someone can touch one, let alone hold one
22:17.52dromI cannot either comprehend that these do even exist
22:21.22dromFun fact: Isopods is also the same genus to the parasitic that consumes fishes' tongues and caves inside the mouth cavity.
22:22.01HachimanBut can you not just imagine holding it and watching as its little legs scurry adorably in mid-air
22:22.10HachimanAs it makes cute isopod noises
22:22.36OluapPlayernon that just makes it creepier
22:22.42OluapPlayerAnd I hate the tongue-eating parasites even more
22:22.49OluapPlayerI feel sick just by remembering it
22:22.52dromI prefer thinking that for fishes and shellfish.
22:22.59Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5vwfEaONg dis gaem tho
22:23.02dromLet alone their smelly slime cloth
22:23.30Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/FJMGkUs.png?1 Here, have Keldar
22:23.46OluapPlayernofaic
22:23.56XhoKeldar - b-baka
22:24.08dromHachiman: k http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Giant-Isopod.jpg
22:24.25HachimanSee, those Dorito ones are adorable
22:24.57MonetThat cat look like its thingking "plz don't let it eat me"
22:25.08OluapPlayerI ain't clicking that shit
22:25.40MonetI agree, the dorito isopods look adorable
22:25.42dromOluapPlayer: If you just want the kitty. http://i.imgur.com/ta0o2Xi.png
22:25.59MonetThey look like a cross between a woodlouse and a lobster
22:26.03OluapPlayerkitty is gud
22:26.03dromI'm not trying to clickbait you, I promise.
22:27.10dromgiant crabs mmm http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/coconut-crab_604x500.jpg
22:27.50Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/MdLHNbz.png?1 And Keldar again
22:28.01OluapPlayerqt faic
22:28.06XhoDrom: Looks like a Combine Dropship
22:28.11OluapPlayerAlso curved horns
22:28.19Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/images/3/3f/Combine_Dropship.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090604234644&path-prefix=en c
22:28.37HachimanAye curved horns
22:31.15HachimanWonder if I should use the helmet or sans helmet version for her profile pic
22:32.33Cyrannianbai
22:32.35OluapPlayerHelmet I'd say
22:32.38OluapPlayerdai
22:34.40OluapPlayerI like the wording in this sentence
22:34.42OluapPlayer"Researchers experience difficulty in studying human extinction directly, since humanity has never been destroyed before."
22:34.49OluapPlayerOnly one way to fix that
22:35.03Hachimanolol
22:41.20dromThe Grand Duchess in TF2 never gets old.
23:12.35HachimanNgh I cannot remember which is more potent, ionic or plasma weapons
23:13.03dromusually depends on the target's technology
23:14.02HachimanThat is a vague answer
23:15.36MonetPlasma's one of the more go-to potent weapons
23:17.13HachimanI was just wondering if plasma would be a bit too low-tech for Zazane
23:19.27dromMake up something
23:20.15HachimanOh wait
23:20.18HachimanI forgot about shidium
23:20.19Hachimandurr
23:20.52MonetPlasma's one of the more difficult weapon types
23:21.45MonetCurrent scientific theory indicates that there's two possible ways to contain a plasma charge: Either in a laser that ionises the air, or a high-energy magnetic field.
23:22.34dromThen you have to hurl it on your target
23:32.06TybusenTechnically speaking, aren't plasma weapons ionic weapons by default
23:32.42TybusenSince plasma is all ions
23:33.17MonetTechnically speaking yeah
23:33.26MonetI wondered what ionic weapons were for a moment
23:35.54HachimanNgh fucking huge moth in my room pls go
23:37.00TybusenI had an idea for a TIAF ionic weapon that's essentially an overclocked solar wind cannon that makes cool aurora formations appear all over the enemy shields
23:38.29OluapPlayerHachiman: bzz bzz bzzzzzz
23:38.33Hachimannon
23:38.40OluapPlayerbz
23:38.42HachimanA moth attacked me in bed once
23:39.09HachimanI was talking to you on Skype and then it flew at the screen, and when I tried to type to you that there was a moth it flew in my face
23:39.17HachimanWhich is why I didn't speak for the rest of that night hur
23:40.52OluapPlayerMe?
23:41.01HachimanYeah
23:41.09OluapPlayerI can't remember that
23:41.20HachimanI never managed to send the message hur
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23:41.31OluapPlayerHow long ago was that?
23:41.44HachimanAbout a month or so back
23:41.50OluapPlayerAh
23:41.55OluapPlayerI'm not gonna remember it

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