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12:06.16HachimanHai hai hai~
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12:27.37Imperioshttps://41.media.tumblr.com/a602b3f6632735278edb06be50c567b4/tumblr_nqapzyNDTS1uxpex8o1_540.jpg >Mali >Zimbabwe >Ethiopia
12:28.37ImperiosAlso Iran is more ancient than this
12:29.09Hachimanhur
12:29.10MonetThat's a bit...offensive isn't it?
12:30.01HachimanIt's not wrong though
12:30.21MonetIts not wrong no. There are parts of Africa like that
12:30.24HachimanThere are many indigenous peoples that continue to utilise that form of architecture
12:31.19Monethttp://www.dentons.com/~/media/Images/Website/Background%20Images/Offices/Cairo/Cairo.jpg but you also havep laces like this.
12:31.34Hachiman>Cairo
12:31.35HachimanDoesn't count
12:32.27Imperioshttps://whatsthefuzzabout.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/central-mosque-abuja.jpg?w=705 Well then, Nigeria
12:32.47Monethttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Harare_Skyline.jpg Harare, Zimbabwe
12:32.56HachimanYeah those count
12:33.01ImperiosZimbabwe does not count because Rhodesia
12:33.08Hachimanrite
12:33.39ImperiosBut seriously there WAS civilisation in Africa, it just didn't manage to flourish because climate and all
12:33.49ImperiosWasn't a foreign influence either
12:34.08ImperiosThat, and Iran predates Rome by far
12:34.11HachimanOh?
12:34.17MonetBabylon
12:34.20ImperiosAnd let's not talk about China
12:34.24ImperiosBabylon is Iraq hur
12:34.30MonetI was close
12:34.33HachimanYeah I was gonna say
12:34.38MonetBut Iraq and Iran were once Persia.
12:35.33Wormy_There were ancient city builders in India.  Nearly 1000 kingdoms before Britain and France had their way with Africa
12:35.39ImperiosWell Persia *conquered* Iraq
12:35.39Wormy_*Africa damnit
12:36.15ImperiosIraq was Ancient Persia's province, while Iran is Ancient Persia's direct successor
12:36.45Wormy_Like the Axum civilisation
12:37.46MonetSorry. Got a little defensive there as I remembred an article from Cracked mentioning that a numbe of African governemnts are doing their very hardest to show that not everywhere in Africa looks like either the Kalahari or the Sahara or is as chaotic as Rwanda or Somalia.
12:38.19Imperios2,500 or something would be the correct number
12:38.23HachimanYeah but Cracked also had an article about how atheists are detrimental to American society
12:38.32ImperiosThis picture looks like it's meant to estabilish an hierarchy of races or something hur
12:39.07MonetHachiman: They do right and they make errors.
12:41.18ImperiosAbout Iran, I just remembered a rather interesting fact
12:42.03ImperiosApparently the Immortals as a squad has continued to serve the Persian Shahs until 1979
12:43.07Wormy_cool
12:43.59HachimanYeah but they are no longer called Immortals
12:44.32HachimanI am saddened by the fact that the genuine historical Xerxes was not a tall androgynous bara man
12:44.36Wormy_I noticed in Deadliest Warrior, they had a Samurai fight a Spartan.  Because the Immortals looked like Japanese warriors in 300
12:45.11HachimanEh I would say that is arguable
12:45.16HachimanI mean the war-masks are similar
12:45.33HachimanBut the armour is almost entirely different to standard Samurai armour
12:45.37ImperiosHachiman: They were Immortal Guard until 1979, now they're just a part of the elite Iranian army
12:45.56Wormy_Aesthetically it was verry oriental
12:46.01MonetA lot of 300 was artistic license really.
12:46.18Wormy_https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/AchaemenidSoldiers.jpg
12:46.56Imperios*sunblotting intensifies*
12:47.02MonetI managed to catch an old historical film about the battle of Themopalye that was made in the 70s.
12:47.09Monetthe other day
12:47.25MonetThe feel of the whole thing was...really different.
12:47.29HachimanOh?
12:48.08Wormy_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mempo
12:48.23MonetFor one Ephialtes in that film was a local farmer's son who was spurred by news Xerxes would pay hansomely for information that would give him an edge against Sparta
12:49.17HachimanBut wasn't the historical Ephialtes an actual deformed soldier
12:49.20MonetI can't remember the reason Sparta did not march to war in 300 but in this film the reason Leondias took his bodyguard was because while it was decided Sparta would amrch to war, it would not be until after an upcoming festival.
12:49.35ImperiosNo he wasn't
12:49.35HachimanThat was the reason in 300
12:49.43ImperiosThat was an artistic addition
12:50.11HachimanThey did not officially proclaim war because they thought that doing so prior to this festival or celebration or whatever would bring them a bad omen
12:50.42MonetI remember something about one of the Spartan senators being bribed with Persoan coin
12:50.47HachimanAye
12:51.30MonetLogicalyl he wouldn't have needed to. Not having the celebration would have been an affront to the gods.
12:52.00Monetwell, considered and affront.
12:52.13HachimanCould you have imagined what would have happened if Leonidas had brought an actual army alongside him at Thermopylae
12:52.23HachimanIt very likely would have ended in a Persian defeat
12:52.37MonetIt would yeah.
12:52.47MonetAlthough they might not have made a film of it
12:52.59HachimanWell yeah because more numbers = substantially less epic
12:53.23ImperiosLeonidas brought an army
12:53.31Wormy_http://www.futurism.com/links/view/scientists-discover-a-bacterium-that-breathes-uranium-and-renders-it-immobile
12:53.31HachimanWell
12:53.46ImperiosThere were 300 Spartans at Thermopylae, but *not all soldiers of Sparta were Spartans*
12:53.47MonetAbout 10,000 allies.
12:53.49HachimanWhen I say "army" I meant more than 300 Spartans ALONGSIDE the numerous thousand other soldiers
12:53.51Imperios...That
12:54.44HachimanIf Leonidas had brought say several thousand Spartan soldiers with him in addition to the 10,000 other soldiers that marched alongside it could have been a Greek victory
12:54.52HachimanAnd if Ephialtes had not been a little shit
12:55.07ImperiosSparta was an aristocratic state, there wouldn't have been enough Spartans probably
12:55.24ImperiosActual Spartans did not compose most of Sparta's population
12:55.29Imperios*compose the majority of
12:55.43HachimanNo, most of Sparta's population consisted of people brought in from vassal states if I recall
12:55.47HachimanSlaves and free men
12:55.54ImperiosHelots
12:55.57HachimanYeah
12:56.08ImperiosLeonidas brought a thousand or so of these
12:56.32HachimanAnd since they were not Spartan they did not have to undergo the agoge
12:56.45HachimanAt least if I recall
12:57.14ImperiosWell yeah they were actual workers
12:57.25ImperiosSpartans were more or less the warrior aristocracy of their country
12:57.52HachimanAye
12:57.53MonetWhile it would have been a Greek victory, I don't know how much clout it would have given Sparta in leading the Hellenic League against Persia.
12:58.15HachimanTrue Spartans were to Sparta what Samurai were to Japan
12:58.31HachimanAnd Samurai nearly always marched with fucktons of ashigaru - peasant soldiers - if I recall
12:58.39MonetAthens, due to its nature as a bastion of democracy in Greece, was still pretty popular
12:59.24HachimanWell Sparta was prolonging a Persian advance on Athens at Thermopylae as the Persians would have needed to pass over Sparta to get to it
12:59.46HachimanAlthough honestly the Persians were horrendous at quashing Greek insurrections
13:00.23HachimanEven if the Persians had conquered Greece they would probably lose hold of it not too long afterwards
13:00.35MonetThe one criticism I would give to what I saw of the 70s film is the mention that Xerxes armies consisted virtually entirely of slaves.
13:01.24MonetI don't know how true that was but it sounds unlikely to me. A reason for viewers t osymapthise with Leonidas and the Greeks perhaps?
13:01.51HachimanYeah, even though Leonidas brought many Spartan slaves with him as well alongside his allies
13:01.55HachimanAnd whatever slaves they had
13:02.36MonetYeah but in Leonidas case he needed who he could find.
13:02.50HachimanSo did the Persians if they wanted to conquer Greece :p
13:03.37MonetFair enough. Though it did sound strongly like Persia's armies at the time were all slaves.
13:03.44Wormy_Imperios, Monet, Hachiman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTr50aHGDnI
13:04.15MonetI guess that's the thing about the classical era.
13:04.26MonetSlavery was seen as perfectly normal
13:04.31HachimanOh wow hur
13:05.07ImperiosHachiman Monet Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6TWw6WcQ9g Reminds me of this
13:06.03Hachimanolol
13:06.09HachimanNever actually watched the Dark Crystal
13:06.31Wormy_What the hell is that hur
13:07.16MonetThe other big difference was Spartans in the 70s film wore armour reminiscent of what was common in Rennaissance paintings.
13:07.32HachimanBut
13:08.03HachimanWait could you gimme an example
13:08.50Monethttps://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/zGExWQN90GTA1skxfCMAAkFvwRS.jpg here we go
13:08.57MonetThat's fro mthe film
13:09.01HachimanHuh
13:09.10HachimanLooks more Roman to me
13:09.19HachimanAlthough I do think
13:09.21Hachimanfuck
13:09.39HachimanSpartans wore something similar to that
13:09.55Monethttp://www.firouzanfilms.com/images/HollywoodAndIran/The300Spartans/The300Spartans_002.jpg this was Xerxes.
13:10.01Monetin the film
13:10.03Wormy_Imperios:  The guards will point guns at annoying tourists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4bRcEVEk
13:10.17HachimanThat is a closer representation to how Xerxes looked than the one in 300 hur
13:12.08MonetI ca nsee the influences when compared to this statue of Leonidas http://cdn.history.com/sites/2/2014/01/leonidas-statue.jpg , ercted in comemmoration for his effrots in the battle
13:13.27Moneterected in commemmoration for his efforts in the battle.
13:16.21MonetBut yes in real life Xerxes was unlikely to have been a bald 10ft tall sex idol dressed to look like a garish stereotype of a traditional Ethiopian.
13:17.15HachimanWhich is rather unfortunate
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13:19.43MonetActually he does remind me of someone... who was it... oh yes http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/10/9793/Apophis.jpg
13:20.56MonetCoincidentally Apophis was also convinced he was a god ot the point that signs he was mortal shocked him.
13:21.03Hachimanhur
13:21.44HachimanAlso I have been figuring out how werewolves are like in Koldenwelt
13:22.25HachimanDecided I would go with Viking-esque precursors residing in Northern Koldenwelt
13:23.10HachimanWho currently reside in their own little subdimension following the whole Caligaduro thing
13:24.16HachimanAside from a couple although it should be noted that, while still strong and magically-inclined, the true extent of their powers is diminished somewhat whenever they enter or reside within the normal plane
13:25.10HachimanAnd werewolves in the more traditional extent - as in, lycanthropy - comes from their contact with mortalkind in the North
13:28.43MonetI'm guessing they therefor prefer their subdimension
13:28.59HachimanYeah
13:28.59TheImperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-yJb6QiYFg Catholic-Me
13:29.01TheImperios*Men
13:29.57HachimanI plan on giving them names like Ragnar Isirisson and Raelof Sveinson
13:30.20HachimanThen again I might not
13:30.44HachimanSince I just realised Space Wolves are a thing
13:32.13MonetHmm. What about taking another culture?
13:32.30MonetSay...Mesopotamian or Native American?
13:32.43HachimanWe already kinda have those in the Freelanders
13:34.34MonetMesoamericans have been done too.
13:34.59MonetHave we done Iroquis?
13:35.08HachimanHm
13:36.49TheImperiosWell Jo's Windranger people have some elements of the First Nations but thanks to my meddling these do not become too prominent because my basis for them is Northern and Eastern Europe
13:37.36HachimanI may have to find another name for these "true werewolves" then since I planned on calling them Vulfenrir hur
13:38.10MonetWell....
13:38.27MonetThe Vikings did land in the northern edge of North America
13:39.20TheImperiosWell outside of North and Central America there's also Amazon
13:39.27TheImperiosNative Oluaplanders can work too
13:39.28HachimanAmazon are Freelanders hur
13:40.32MonetI can see these true werewolves possibly working as Iroquis
13:40.41HachimanHm perhaps
13:40.56MonetThough the language is a bit of a mouthful
13:41.12HachimanAlthough I myself dunno about the Iroquois
13:41.17HachimanMuch anyway
13:42.26MonetYou might now them better as the Mohawk (one of the Iroquis tribes)
13:42.44HachimanStill dunno much about them hur
13:43.18MonetWell for one their settlements were distinguished by the use of longhouses.
13:44.24MonetIs suggesting perhaps a mix of Iroquis and Vikng a bit much?
13:44.44HachimanNot at all
13:44.49HachimanI think I can do that
13:45.18TheImperiosWell apparently they were a semi-matriarchal society
13:45.23Monethttp://blogdev.learnquebec.ca/societies/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/nggallery/iroquois-around-1500/territoire_1500.jpg the Iroquis occupied the red area msotly so Vikings could have encountered either them or the more northern Algonuin
13:45.37TheImperios"The Iroquois are a matriarchal Mother Clan system. No person is entitled to 'own' land, but it is believed that the Creator appointed women as stewards of the land. Traditionally, the Clan Mothers appoint leaders, as they have raised children and are therefore held to a higher regard. By the same token, if a leader does not prove sound, becomes corrupt or does not listen to the people, the Clan M
13:45.48TheImperios"By the same token, if a leader does not prove sound, becomes corrupt or does not listen to the people, the Clan Mothers have the power to strip him of his leadership."
13:46.07HachimanI also plan for archaic ruins to be the foundations for the Hopedan Kingdom's sanctum and cities
13:46.10TheImperiosSo female rulers could tell chieftains to CHECK THEIR PRIVILEGE
13:46.15Hachimanhur
13:46.44HachimanArchaic ruins of the true werewolf civilisation that is prior to their migration
13:47.16HachimanHopedan's ancestors - nomadic proto-Mannazian tribes - would have stumbled upon them during their pilgrimage to the North
13:47.58Wormy_TheImperios: http://imgur.com/gallery/vMHbwxK
13:48.11MonetSome Native Americans IIRC were capable of building permanent settlements, such as the cliff-dwelling Pueblo people
13:48.45TheImperiosWormy_: David Blane would be proud
13:49.35Wormy_Always remember to remove cat before flight  http://imgur.com/gallery/Z3fFFcj
13:49.56Monethttp://home2.fvcc.edu/~randycgreen/worldofwonders/images/Gallery_Interact/6096790-lg.jpg stuff like these (or perhaps mroe impressive) coudl be your ruins
13:52.01TheImperiosHachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1434973778727.jpg
13:52.25Hachimanech
13:54.48TheImperioshttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_BBi6nXEAAD4yy.jpg:large ...Is that Justin Bieber?
13:55.28HachimanBelieve so
13:55.35MonetYeah it is
13:55.39TheImperios...He has a moustache now
13:55.46TheImperiosDafuk
13:56.10TheImperiosWhat even happened to him? I don't remember seeing him on YouTube or on TV lately
13:56.13MonetAnd still looks as manly as candy floss.
13:56.31MonetHe's become an entitled shit.
13:56.38HachimanMy fucking moustache is better than that
13:57.05TheImperiosI shave and I look more manly him
13:57.09Wormy_I had the beginning of a moustache at 12 and full grown beard at 15
13:57.10MonetIsn't that look considered "the douchebag look"?
13:57.17HachimanYeah
13:57.21HachimanEspecially with that hair
13:57.22HachimanPrick
13:57.43TheImperiosI had that kind of moustache when I was 16
13:57.54HachimanNgh I am trying to make female Vulfenrir but the complexity dunt wanna let me get arms for the breasts
13:58.17TheImperiosTHE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS
13:58.25TheImperiosDon't give them any hur
13:58.29HachimanBut
13:58.48TheImperiosBet you're giving them three pairs
13:58.48Wormy_Orlando Bloom punched JB last year
13:58.52Hachimannon
13:58.56TheImperioshuh
13:59.05TheImperiosI mean she-wolves do not have swollen mammaries unless they feed
13:59.14MonetIf they're canids wouldn't they have 8 nipples?
13:59.31HachimanNgh
13:59.39HachimanFine fine I won't put breasts on them
13:59.45HachimanThis is gonna make me cringe
14:00.05TheImperiosIt didn't a few years ago
14:00.31Wormy_wonders if posthumans will choose to have more breasts
14:00.43TheImperiosEw
14:00.44MonetMaybe make the upper torso region larger?
14:01.21HachimanWell it looks like I will have to give them traditional canid mammaries considering that the complexity meter will not allow additional limbs at this point
14:01.27TheImperiosthat's a better choice
14:02.25Monet"True Werewolves" makes it sound like they're more than transformed humans.
14:02.42HachimanThey are; they are where lycanthropy comes from
14:02.45HachimanThey were never humans
14:04.19MonetIt might feel wierd but at the same time it might set the mapart from other lycanthropes
14:04.50MonetSince their anatomy does need to be so rigidly bound to human anatomy.
14:05.08HachimanKinda like how your Dracinis equivalents use mutated serfs, the Vulfenrir passed on lycanthropy to their mortal allies to enhance them and bring them closer together
14:06.15MonetThe Vulfenrir's use of it sounds like a nicer alternative.
14:06.34HachimanAnd then the Vulfenrir left and lycanthropy is an equivalent to vampirism in modern Koldenwelt hur
14:08.08MonetAs wel las transforing your body, the alchemy used in dragonsworn creation tends to warp your brain to adore your masters. SOmething I'm guessing doesn't happen with Vulfenrir lycanthropy?
14:08.49HachimanNo, the Vulfenrir ensured that those they would enhance with lycanthropy already owed their loyalty and adoration to them
14:09.06MonetHigh ranking dragonsworn are prone to either suicide or forming a crusade when bereft of a Draonoggr master.
14:09.38MonetAdded with the possibility they may think their master lives on in death.
14:09.46HachimanAlthough while in lycanthrope form, a werewolf would not be able to attack against a Vulfenrir unless commanded to do so by another Vulfenrir
14:10.39HachimanThere are also "alpha lycanthropes" which act as a means to command other werewolves in the absence of a Vulfenrir
14:13.15HachimanI feel weird giving female Vulfenrir pecs like the males
14:16.07Wormy_Venezuelan TV host gets completely naked while reporting on Copa America win over Colombia  http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/venezuelan-tv-host-gets-completely-naked-while-reporting-on-copa-america-win-over-colombia-10325683.html
14:16.58AdmiralPandahi all
14:18.17HachimanHai
14:19.08Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/VRjqB1K.png?1 TheImperios Monet: How do these look?
14:20.00MonetI like the hands. and the fur formations o ntheir heads.
14:21.03MonetNot sure about the prominence of the female's nipples but then again I have little experience with dogs beyond what I see on the street so I don't know how well-hidden they often are.
14:21.20HachimanNot very
14:21.36AdmiralPandaas the owner of a female dog I can confirm this
14:22.19AdmiralPandawrong gender but there is a reason the phrase "obvious as a dog's bollocks" exists
14:22.29Hachimanhur
14:23.07MonetI've heard of "the dog's bollocks", but not that one.
14:23.13MonetMaybe to reflect the matriarchy females could have more impressive-looking coats?
14:23.25HachimanPerhaps yeah
14:23.33HachimanAlso "dog's bollocks" means "to stand out"
14:23.40HachimanWhich a dog's bollocks do
14:23.55MonetI always thought it meant "the best"...somehow.
14:24.17AdmiralPandanope, means they stand out, because that's exactly what a dog's bollocks do
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14:25.11MonetHuess it could be used ot mean "stand-out good" since I've heard it referred positively to good food.
14:28.48HachimanI plan for the Inatosan Wolf, who guards the Eye in the Archipelago, to be a Vulfenrir champion who decided to stay behind on Koldenwelt because he thought retreating from the world into their own little "pocket dimension" was a cowardly thing to do
14:31.35MonetSo not an avatar of Isiris?
14:31.59HachimanWell the Vulfenrir are to Isiris what Phoenixes and Void Denizens are to their respective deities anyway
14:32.37HachimanBut yeah no longer an actual personification of Isiris
14:32.50TheImperiosHachiman: They stand a tad upright but yeah
14:32.54TheImperiosLook cool
14:32.57TheImperios*a tad too upright
14:33.01OluapPlayerThat is ech
14:33.17Hachimanur ech
14:33.29MonetSInce Isiris is akin to Gaia she could have blessed the Inatsoan Wolf for his decision.
14:33.55HachimanThe Inatosan Wolf would be the strongest Vulfenrir currently active on Koldenwelt
14:34.09HachimanBut since he is outside of the Vulfenrir pocket his strength is diminished somewhat
14:35.47MonetHate to think what he could accomplish in the Pocket Dimension
14:35.47HachimanWhile on Koldenwelt, Vulfenrir cannot be harmed by conventional weaponry other those which are enchanted or forged from cold iron or adamantium - aka anti-magical properties
14:36.38HachimanWhen paired against stuff like enchanted, cold iron, and adamantium arsenals they can be hurt in otherwise conventional means
14:36.49HachimanAnd maybe also silver just to keep them loyal to the old werewolf mythology hur
14:37.16OluapPlayerSeems a bit overpowered to me
14:37.37HachimanWell cold iron is not inherently difficult to make
14:38.13MonetAlthough I suppose certain Vulfenrir in the pocket dimension have likely had more time to hone their affinity with magic.
14:38.29HachimanI dunno, perhaps the Vulfenrir can be damaged by conventional means while in Koldenwelt although stuff like cold iron and adamantium is naturally more potent to them
14:38.32OluapPlayerMaking them immune to all but two things doesn't sound too good to me
14:38.35MonetAnd if there is a difference in the passage of time, some could have had more time.
14:41.12MonetActually its quite common in mythology for supernatural beings to be immune to mortal weaponry save for an achilless heel substance or method
14:41.28HachimanThat is true but I may as well balance them
14:41.32HachimanOtherwise I would be doing a Xho
14:41.49OluapPlayerThis is a collab universe though, not mythology
14:42.20HachimanTo balance them more, perhaps Vulfenrir sustain damage from conventional weapons but cold iron, adamantium, and enchanted/magical weaponry is far more practical to use against them
14:42.43OluapPlayerThe only thing you accomplish by making something nearly invincible is making it much more difficult for it to interact with the rest of the setting
14:43.25MonetThe Wolf's task is to be guardian of the Eye though.
14:43.37HachimanSo say a Vulfenrir can be damaged via conventional swords and spears and such but will recover from the injuries rather quickly unless done so by aforementioned materials or magical elements
14:44.03OluapPlayerThat is reasonable, and I'm sincerely surprised that was not the case from the beginning
14:44.13HachimanWell I was considering it
14:44.44HachimanWhat put me off initially was that werewolves in lore are often portrayed to be resistant, if not immune, to conventional materials beyond silver
14:45.11HachimanAlthough since this is a collaborative universe I am happy to balance them out hur
14:45.28OluapPlayerThere is nothing stopping you from giving them resistances
14:46.00OluapPlayerBut immunities are trickier to do, especially when they encompass so many things
14:46.22HachimanThat is true
14:46.53MonetWerewolf vunerability to silver might be a connection to silver's "pure" properties
14:47.00HachimanAye
14:47.08MonetAs well as its medicinal qualities
14:47.46OluapPlayerLetting people stab a werewolf with a sword doesn't make them any less threatening, because they're huge angry wolf-men who can shrug it off and maul the person to pieces anyway
14:48.13OluapPlayerYou could use conventional weapons to harm a Fire Drake, doesn't mean you can curbstomp it with them
14:48.22HachimanFair enough
14:48.44MonetGiven that before germ theory, an illness and being corrupted by bad spirits were see nas the same thing, so stuff that had medicinal properties was believed ot be harmful to dark spirits.
14:49.45HachimanI was also thinking that to properly kill a Vulfenrir rather than incapacitate it, either the brain or heart must be destroyed or disconnected from the rest of the body
14:50.10HachimanSo say a Vulfenrir, while it can suffer copious amounts of damage, will only really "die" to those
14:50.42MonetThat makes sense to me
14:50.57HachimanOtherwise it could potentially, if after a long while, recover and get back up
14:51.13MonetThey're partly magical beings, they don't follow the same rules as mortal beings
14:51.19OluapPlayerMaybe you can go for the brain because destroying the heart is already a vampire thing
14:51.25HachimanFair enough
14:51.36HachimanWell to be fair destroying the heart is kind of an everything ever thing hur
14:52.27HachimanBut yeah I can keep it so that the brain is their vulnerable spot
14:52.52MonetBefore proper scientific study, people used to think the heart was where the soul and the core of a person's life-essence was.
14:53.14HachimanOf course lycanthropes would not be as OP as Vulfenrir
14:53.21HachimanWell I say OP, as powerful even
14:54.05HachimanI mean they are tough but they can die without having their brain destroyed
14:54.18MonetI don't get the complaints with Inatsoan Wolf though. Maybe though divine blessing or the years he's spent on Koldenwelt has made him more resillient than most Vulfenrir?
14:54.46HachimanWell he is a Vulfenrir champion so naturally he would be more resilient than most Vulfenrir
14:54.56HachimanBut he would still have weaknesses
14:55.11MonetYou need to be a hard-as-nails champion if your charge is capable of destroying the world
14:58.01HachimanWell he would have been a veteran of the war with Caligaduro
14:58.31HachimanAnd opted to remain on Koldenwelt when nearly all of what remained of the Vulfenrir migrated to their pocket dimension
15:01.15HachimanIt is likely that the Inatosan Wolf both despises the other Vulfenrir for their decision to leave the world behind and is grumpy because he has no other Vulfenrir for company
15:03.08OluapPlayerI wasn't complaining about the Wolf, I was complaining about the race in general
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15:03.43Hachimanspuh
15:03.45GhelAlthough the page may well need an overhaul, in the current description of the War for the Eye the Inatosan Wolf was magically summoned to prevent the Eye from being misused. If any of that idea still remains even with him being a Vulfenrir rather than Isiris incarnate, it would imply some supernatural differences between him and the rest of his kind.
15:03.47OluapPlayerHi
15:03.47Xhodai
15:03.48GhelHello.
15:04.32HachimanThat is true
15:04.51HachimanI may have him be an Avatar in the same manner that Kanna is an Avatar
15:04.57HachimanAs in, he is favoured by Isiris
15:05.12HachimanOr he might just be skilled with magic
15:05.40XhoIs the idea that the Inatosan Wolf gnawing on Kalarah still canon btw
15:05.46HachimanMaybe
15:06.02HachimanWell if you want it to be canon anyway hur
15:06.28Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:201477#4
15:06.31Wormy_woops
15:06.39XhoEh well it might be cool for Kalarah to go "LOOK AT ME I SURVIVED GETTING EATEN BY THE UNIVERSE"
15:07.01HachimanInatosan Wolf is not the universe wat u talkin bout
15:07.02GhelWormy_: Jo tried to help him as well.
15:07.03Wormy_Though I don't know what "Dark Goldenrod" is
15:07.14XhoHachiman: LSD
15:07.27Hachimanu hav been takin 2 much of it
15:07.44Wormy_I assume its a shade of colour
15:07.53HachimanGoldenrod is a colour
15:08.07HachimanOr a flower anyway
15:08.11XhoWormy_: Apparently the hex colour is  #B8860B
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15:08.34Wormy_ah
15:08.53HachimanSpu: http://i.imgur.com/VRjqB1K.png?1 Speaking of Inatosan Wolf, I got around to making his species
15:08.56HachimanVulfenrir
15:09.18XhoKalarah - eugh fleas
15:09.31HachimanInatosan Wolf - eugh worms
15:09.39XhoKalarah - wat u talkin about
15:09.43AdmiralPandaTechnobliterator Hachiman: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=466758822 my latest FFXIV success
15:09.46HachimanInatosan Wolf - corpsfaic
15:10.02Technobliterator:o
15:10.07XhoWell Kalarah is different to most Shiarchon
15:10.16Technobliteratorniiice
15:10.24HachimanAdmiralPanda: Jesus
15:10.43AdmiralPandathat be a megalodon's jaws
15:10.45XhoHis body is like http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c2/CaligaduroInfernalWraith.png/revision/latest?cb=20141105215245 that but Shiarchon-shaped
15:10.50HachimanKalarah - im not like other shiarchon~ <3
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15:12.01Wormy_awayhi
15:12.05GhelHello.
15:12.07Wormy_awaybbl
15:12.54CyrannianHello.
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15:33.30DrodoEmpireHi everyone
15:33.51XhoHi
15:44.26MonetHello
15:45.57DrodoEmpireHey
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15:54.50Wormy_"When mum says, 'take your brother with you'" https://www.facebook.com/363765800431935/videos/541867035955143/
15:55.45Wormy_https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152957252701918&set=p.10152957252701918&type=1&theater
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16:47.56Knight_AlienHi
16:49.20TekDroidSo registration started today at my university. I have to wait until Wednesday before it's my turn. D:
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16:50.25TekDroidHello
16:50.51dino82_hellowz
16:52.42DrodoEmpireHey
16:54.46ImpyDroidHachiman: https://youtu.be/E-yJb6QiYFg
16:57.11HachimanBut Storm isn't white
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17:15.48DrodoEmpireHello
17:17.10IHGNUHello
17:17.31DrodoEmpireWelcome to the wiki! Sorry everyone's so quiet, just a lull in the conversation here.
17:17.53IHGNUthank you for the welcome
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17:19.42TekDroidConversation usually picks up in a couple hours, when both the Europeans and Americas are on
17:20.32IHGNUoh that's right, I guess that in the Americas it is not a good time now, right?
17:22.44DrodoEmpireIts 2:21 here in Nova Scotia, so for most people it isn't (I went straight home after exams :p)
17:25.08IHGNUugh, exams. What a terrible word
17:25.39DrodoEmpireHm?
17:26.30IHGNUMy friends are doing exams in this period
17:26.41DrodoEmpireAh
17:28.21IHGNUbtw what are you studying? (if i can ask, of course)
17:28.56DrodoEmpireJust end of year school exams, if you must know. :p
17:29.39IHGNUoh, i see. I was just curious
17:29.50DrodoEmpireIts fine
17:32.27TekDroidI feel so wierd since my exams were two months ago. XD
17:34.36Xhohttp://i.imgur.com/GbjXOcB.jpg I need this bass guitar like right now
17:35.17DrodoEmpirePretty nice
17:35.30XhoPretty expensive as well
17:35.38XhoThe starting price is £1250
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17:46.25Xhoupsingtons
17:48.58Xhogoddammit ups
17:50.46XhoHachiman: Listening to Meshuggah at a high volume = fun
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17:58.20Wormy_Hah that second comment http://imgur.com/gallery/nCblGOl
17:58.40Xhoheh
17:58.59DrodoEmpireOh my
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18:12.04Wormy_Hachiman:  http://i.imgur.com/ubITf5B.png
18:12.48OluapPlayer~seen Cyrannian
18:12.51infobotcyrannian <4e11bede@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.17.190.222> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 2h 59m 57s ago, saying: 'Hello.'.
18:48.02XhoI think you lot might like this picture I'm doing
18:50.45TekDroidimgur.com/gallery/0rIMXZa
18:58.11Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/02/Sangua_Mons.png/revision/latest?cb=20150622185738 Kalarah's palace
18:59.20OluapPlayerI'ts a good picture
18:59.47MonetWow that's...imrpessive
19:00.10MonetKalaragh's a shoe-in for Koldenwelt's Grandest Home
19:00.21MonetKalarah*
19:00.50XhoSanguine Promenade states that each of those columns are around 490 ft tall
19:01.08XhoBecause giant fortress palace of evil
19:05.20XhoI wonder how long it took to build
19:05.26XhoKnowing Kalarah, not very long
19:05.44XhoProbably killed a few thousand slaves doing it
19:07.52XhoI wonder how much processing power it would take to render the entire palace in a game
19:09.07OluapPlayerIt would be insignificant compared to an entire game worth of content
19:10.15XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
19:10.26XhoBut yeah if someone did the entirety of Koldenwelt
19:10.34XhoThat would need a lot of everything ever
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19:16.47HachimanJOHN CENA
19:19.06Xhonah m8
19:21.02XhoHachiman: http://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/chopdatdirtydickoffawwwyeahshoveitinyourmouthawwwwyeah.png
19:22.17HachimanOhgod why
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19:34.33ImpyDroidHachiman: About X-men, I think that's why they said "mostly"
19:50.11OluapPlayerFor fuck's sake where's Cyrannian
19:54.29ImpyDroidHachiman: http://img09.deviantart.net/42df/i/2015/146/3/4/love_in_the_air_by_riouku-d8uw8le.png
19:54.48HachimanBut why
19:57.04ImpyDroidBecause
19:57.21ImpyDroidBecause biggest lesbian shipping fandom
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20:21.20The_RandomnessHello
20:25.28Vincent20100Wormy_: https://youtu.be/SBU0NCRvWR0?t=4s
20:41.30TekDroidSo I just finished a game of Risk with my dad: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/Ik0WFIM
20:43.28Wormy_Vincent20100 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1GJO5n7wxM
20:50.26Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/rnEZd6T
20:50.33Vincent20100Classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tym0MObFpTI
20:59.47Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet%3AKoldenwelt/Algid_Haven I got some way through this yesterday
21:01.07XhoOluapPlayer: "Mosocia is the capital city of the Khalmartia Elves. An isolated city neighbouring only a few other Khalmartia settlements, Mosocia is one of the Sovereign's smallest racial capitals. The city is notable for its snake-infested outskirts."
21:01.17XhoKhalmartia - TURNS OUT          IT WAS JUST OURSELVES            *scream*
21:01.37OluapPlayerThe elves bit needs to be removed from that
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21:16.18MonetHi
21:16.33OluapPlayerhi
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22:00.27XhoTechnobliterator: Well I have some insane ideas for some arpeggios, C#mb13 and D#mb5b13
22:00.52TechnobliteratorI swear to god you compose the most overly complex pieces
22:00.55Technobliterator:o
22:00.57XhoPROG METAL
22:01.10XhoThey sound pretty good together though
22:02.03XhoThat is actually going into jazz territory but I don't think they'll notice
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22:03.33ExternalHey
22:04.20ExternalXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6PIC46uxx0 Is this a Xhodocto?
22:05.34XhoI could imagine Draguros saying something like that
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23:49.34Wormy_Monet, Liquid_Ink, Hachiman:  This is trippy as fuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrxPuk0JefA
23:49.51HachimanOh I have seen this
23:51.32MonetI never realised a pig's tongue was that thick or wrinked

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