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02:28.22TekDroidO.o
02:28.47TekDroidtests External for drugs
02:29.48ExternalWere you talking about https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/150725_10152438687960737_879620695798942762_n.jpg?oh=a1ef6010ce0f1e61a4e3677dbab953a7&oe=55F2F782 or my long-ass hi
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02:42.58AdmiralPandahello
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09:31.15AdmiralPandahi all
09:31.27AdmiralPandacrash-tackles HachiTop into the nearest cabbage stand
09:35.14Liquid_InkMY CABBAGES!
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11:42.11HachimanHai Imp
11:46.52ImperiosHiya
12:04.56Wormy_Does Privilege Matter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qavNOONOuRw
12:09.09HachimanOh boy I can smell the controversy in the Youtube comments already
12:10.18Wormy_I don't think wealth necessarily means someone is happier, and still prone to misfortune
12:10.36Wormy_All the wealth in the world didn't save Steve Jobs
12:11.02Liquid_InkYes, because being economically stable doesn't make anybody happy.
12:16.00HachimanOh come on
12:16.25HachimanBeing economically content does not necessarily mean you are emotionally or medically content
12:16.34HachimanOr socially content
12:17.40Wormy_I think privilege as a form of condemnation is flawed.  But perhaps not as a form of awareness
12:18.53Wormy_First World Problems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uLL418S1GQ
12:18.58AdmiralPandaAll the wealth in the world didn't save Steve Jobs because he had inoperable cancer
12:19.30Wormy_My point however, is that unfortunate events happen to everyone
12:19.48Wormy_Perhaps in a less social context
12:21.16Liquid_InkSomehow I think somebody you can't afford a home is going to be significantly less happy than someone who can.
12:21.20Liquid_Ink*who
12:21.31Wormy_Werll yeah, I don't disagree
12:23.08Wormy_But that is not to say wealthy are psychologically more content
12:23.53Wormy_They can become bankrupt, full of stress, held in a prison by the powers above them, etc.
12:25.45AdmiralPandathe poor aren't exactly immune to those either, and I do feel it's worth pointing out that when questioned about wealth and happiness, the Dalai Lama simply said "Material wealth is necessary for the comfort of this body, and that is necessary for the comfort of the mind."
12:26.33AdmiralPandanot excessive wealth, but even the "if you want happiness, remove want and you have happiness" guy agrees that at least economic stability is pretty important to overall happiness
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12:27.35HachimanHai
12:28.26OluapPlayerhai
12:28.30Wormy_I could get burned in a fire this...  But believe its possible to be happy in mind and not in body
12:29.09Wormy_I know people quite poor, well not tio the point of living without a house kind of poor, but still, having happiness in other kinds of values
12:30.14Wormy_I think its also easy for the wealthy to look upon the less wealthy in other nations and view them as "poor sods", which I think misses a lot of things.
12:31.06Wormy_There was this brilliant documentary about the lives of all classes in India.  It was surprising because it didn't look down on their ways of life.  And what we saw were people with lives as rich as mine
12:31.40Wormy_" It was surprising because it didn't look down on their ways of life"  As in per normal at least by the BBC standards
12:34.29AdmiralPandait is possible for people to be happy in mind but not in body, but why would you make that an ideal when you can strive for happiness in both?
12:36.12Wormy_Good point there, there is no point limiting ourselves
12:51.23HachimanSo according to Biblical texts, the term "to know" is a euphemism for having sex
12:51.54OluapPlayerGood to know
12:53.19Hachimanfuk off
12:53.31Liquid_InkShould I be proud or ashamed that I already knew that?
12:54.48ImperiosHachiman: Isn't that common knowledge?
12:55.30Liquid_InkNot really.
12:55.47HachimanNot in the UK I believe hur
12:56.11Liquid_InkIn the UK "discussing Uganda" is a euphemism for sex, so I hear.
12:57.37HachimanThe fuck
12:57.42HachimanNever heard that one before
13:00.34Liquid_Ink"the satirical magazine Private Eye coined the term "Ugandan discussions", after a journalist who had had a "meaningful confrontation" with a former Ugandan Cabinet minister at a London party claimed she was merely "discussing Uganda with him". "
13:00.51HachimanHuh
13:01.08Hachiman""His fingers drifted over [her breasts] again, gently scissoring her nipples." You know what two words NEVER belong in a sentence together? Nipples and scissors."
13:02.53OluapPlayerWell you can put them together. You just can't put them together with "gently"
13:05.35HachimanI got this from a list of things that a book reviewer hates reading in sex scenes
13:06.22HachimanOn the top of her list was when the author describes the male's member penetrates INTO THE WOMB
13:07.55HachimanI am sat here reading this, and an example passage from a book, and thinking to myself both how the fuck is that humanly possible and how anybody is supposed to find that appealing when that would probably be one of the most painful things
13:08.09OluapPlayer>not going all the way in            little penis man
13:17.14HachimanAnother, near the bottom of the list, is having sex on top of a horse
13:17.28HachimanI don't even need to go into why that is impossible
13:17.48OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46iCN6MBFM relevant
13:18.00HachimanOhgod I remember this
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13:50.57TekDroidHello
13:58.39Imperioshttps://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Angela_Merkel&redirect=no ...ohgod
13:59.55HachimanWho is Angela Merkel?
14:00.26OluapPlayer>Encyclopedia Dramatica
14:00.27OluapPlayerwat u doin
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14:09.32TekDroidHelli
14:09.35TekDroid*Hello
14:11.50XhoHi
14:13.00ImperiosHachiman: German Chancellor
14:13.06OluapPlayerspai
14:13.17ImperiosXho Hachiman OlupaPlayer: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/542955139956231455/6A4D1ABAF8D62E3862D2F12DB6C0AC1CDC745DDB/
14:13.26Xhoyoo
14:13.41Xhogrorious reader
14:13.46OluapPlayerSeems about right
14:14.33XhoOluapPlayer Imperios Hachiman: Are you all available for irate lunar object
14:14.39ImperiosI am not
14:14.45ImperiosWill be in two days
14:14.55OluapPlayerThat's your answer
14:15.05HachimanAye
14:16.14Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbd4t-ua-WQ Whenever I try to get an rp done
14:16.40OluapPlayerget shrekd
14:17.51XhoIn that case I'll get more of Dragon Speaker done then
14:18.00XhoThough as far as I can tell not many people read it
14:19.34OluapPlayerNever stopped me before
14:20.02XhoWell, there was that time you started deleting everything
14:21.30OluapPlayerI deleted 3 pages
14:21.41OluapPlayerThat's hardly everything
14:21.48Xho3 is magic numbur
14:21.54OluapPlayerur a magic numbur
14:22.19Xho3 letturs in spu
14:22.22Xho3 sides of triangul
14:22.27Xhoilluminati confirmed
14:22.28HachimanILLUMINATI
14:23.14OluapPlayertriangul is worst geometric
14:23.36XhoNOOOOOOH
14:24.13ImperiosXho Hachiman OluapPlayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kim_Jong-il's_titles
14:24.23Imperiosoops
14:24.50OluapPlayer>Superior Person
14:24.50Xho"Glorious General, Who Descended From Heaven"                Kalarah - u shall nao refer to me as dis
14:24.51OluapPlayerNarm
14:25.11XhoHighest Incarnation of the Revolutionary Comradeship
14:25.18XhoSo red even Stalin's eyes hurt
14:25.32OluapPlayerolol
14:26.11Imperios"His Excellency"
14:26.14ImperiosThat was underwhelming
14:27.02OluapPlayerIt's missing his true title, God-Emperor of Mankind
14:27.06OluapPlayerOh wait that's Putin's title
14:28.22Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin#Erratic_behaviour.2C_self-bestowed_titles.2C_and_media_portrayal It's not the worst case even
14:30.23Xho"His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular"
14:30.34XhoThat's actually funny
14:31.19TekDroidO.o
14:31.19Hachimanolol
14:32.25TekDroid" in addition to his officially-stated claim of being the uncrowned King of Scotland."
14:39.31Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11206097_1596425383939274_4029395040903784220_n.jpg?oh=101817aeeae90d999263a21f4850fe69&oe=562A7FF2 Cringe
14:40.39Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10343687_1596377893944023_2322457819131928407_n.jpg?oh=3115d5cfdee9b78b11e94a8640374d7d&oe=55ECB26B This is why I fucking hate emojis
14:40.53OluapPlayer:):):):):):):)
14:45.08Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11535786_1596344403947372_629952896371819032_n.jpg?oh=01bd768d07bb73c674c702acbba765f3&oe=563010CF
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14:49.34CyrannianHey guys
14:52.03OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
14:52.03infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
14:52.28Cyrannian~dropkick OluapPlayer
14:52.29infobotACTION sends OluapPlayer flying like a yipping chihuahua
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15:17.03OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: You there
15:17.11TechnobliteratorSort of
15:17.18TechnobliteratorWhat's up?
15:17.26OluapPlayerI wanted to know if you could do Fog War
15:17.35TechnobliteratorProbably
15:22.15Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klVe7_2UEQ8 Holy shit dem comments
16:03.38XhoImperios: Sanotrakh's Cinco de Mayo soundtrack
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16:06.46Xhohttp://cdn.diply.com/img/dc513275-0631-4357-803e-96fc64247aee.jpg
16:07.39ImperiosRussian history exam is due the day after tomorrow
16:07.58ImperiosThere is so much to learn that we decided to cooperate and work on 4-5 topics each, then share our research
16:08.06Imperios...For some reason I got the ones about Stalin
16:11.51XhoOkay now I'm bored
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16:17.13Zillafire101Hello all.
16:34.19ImperiosWriting about Stalin's purges
16:34.36ImperiosTried to write down every single major purge
16:34.52ImperiosI now feel a bit sad
16:42.45OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/U71FRoA.png
16:44.34OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NINtxXju730
16:45.36Xhowat in da
16:55.00XhoOkay now I am exceptionally bored
17:06.42OluapPlayerXho Imperios Wormy_away: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Hagto.27Zhl.27s_Last_Stand bonk
17:11.18XhoOne does wonder what runs through an essential god's head when they empower a Loron
17:11.52OluapPlayerHagto'Zhl was an experiment
17:12.45Xho"STAND STILL YOO FUKIN ASSCAKE"                   Krath - if dis is da standard of ur experiments u got low standards
17:13.49XhoGood section though
17:14.21XhoAs someone who likes serious things I always find it hard to consider the Loron but it was a good section still
17:21.12Wormy_semi_hereSpu:  Is it muggy where you are, in the meteorological sense.
17:21.52Wormy_semi_hereOluap:  I'll have a read
17:26.05Wormy_semi_here"Zr'Ahgloth walked forward, slammed his boom box on the ground, and started threateningly at Hagto'Zhl, pulling out his microphone."
17:26.09Wormy_semi_hereI lolled
17:35.00Wormy_semi_heregood battle, very bloody
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17:38.43TekDroid~test
17:38.43infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
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17:40.17Quark8Hello.
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17:41.07TekDroid-.- Screw that wi-fi
17:43.07TekDroid~test
17:43.08infoboti heard test is not funny
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17:50.13HachimanHai
17:51.57Xhorabut
17:56.23Wormy_semi_hereHachi:  Is it muggy where you are
17:57.36Wormy_semi_hereI can't do with sticky weather
18:07.22XhoTechnobliterator: So I'm writing a riff for this song, so far the time signatures go -> 2 bars of 15/16,  one bar of 5/8, 2 more bars of 15/16 then a bar of 3/4
18:07.44Technobliteratorwow
18:07.53Technobliteratorhow can you keep up with your own piece like that
18:07.55Technobliterator0.0
18:08.01XhoEh it's just the groove I guess
18:08.20Technobliteratorthat must be seriously confusing to play
18:10.40ImperiosOluapPlayer: sikkest sekshun eva
18:12.24ImperiosWormy_semi_here Hachiman Xho OluapPlayer: http://www.ibtimes.com/islamic-group-wants-name-new-mosque-moscow-after-putin-russian-muslims-complain-about-1817880
18:12.58XhoTechnobliterator: Not really no
18:14.11Wormy_semi_hereImperios: http://www.ibtimes.com/kim-jong-un-cancels-russia-visit-after-moscow-refused-special-treatment-him-report-1904453
18:15.06ImperiosTemper tantrum guy
18:15.07ImperiosHur
18:16.12Wormy_semi_herelol
18:20.13TekDroidO.i
18:23.44XhoTechnobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/11173497_1079152855445628_1168023962_n.jpg?oh=cfd6e0c30eef079ffac01bafc5fa1a9d&oe=55889B1A Thre
18:23.45Xhothere
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18:24.03Technobliteratorjesus fucking christ
18:28.24Wormy_Fathers Day is the hardest bloody day to get a card for
18:28.51TekDroidYep
18:29.05Wormy_Its either football themed, soppy, making a reference to age or just plan crap
18:29.06TekDroidAnd stuff in general for me
18:29.22Wormy_I like cards with good humor
18:30.16Wormy_I haven't got one and most shops are closed now
18:30.24Wormy_So it looks like I'll be making one
18:30.38Wormy_searches imgur and so on
18:31.34XhoTechnobliterator: It is playable no doubt
18:31.55TechnobliteratorConsidering what some guitarists have played before, that can be believed
18:32.07Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/DnpugfA
18:32.30Wormy_... gernius http://imgur.com/gallery/hnf0lvN
18:34.55Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/v2aBAuB
18:35.13Wormy_the feels http://imgur.com/gallery/7fA6C
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18:43.56Wormy_"Should have been a spilsner"  http://imgur.com/gallery/lx8APaI
18:44.02HachimanOh my fucking God
18:44.14HachimanWhy are thee drunk people in our house
18:44.24HachimanMy mother invited friends round and they are pissed
18:45.16Wormy_My mum does that all the time
18:45.45Wormy_Not that I'm complaining if there is beer in there for me
18:46.02HachimanI mean I had like a Carling to be social but that is it
18:46.08HachimanI prefer drinking with friends
18:46.27Wormy_Picard invented the tablet http://imgur.com/gallery/QL4d0wy
18:47.35Wormy_Hachi:  At least it isn't drunk French students
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18:50.58dino82_hello!
18:53.45Quark8Hello.
18:56.38Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/vFxMLtI
18:56.47Wormy_"I think someone may have put poison in your beer. Just sayin."
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18:57.14dromhttp://i.imgur.com/ybulCcu.jpg
18:57.17dromAnd hello
19:05.34Wormy_lemme suckle ur nose http://imgur.com/gallery/nfqVxLR
19:09.10OluapPlayerHachiman Technobliterator: I'm back
19:15.33OluapPlayer~kick Hachiman Technobliterator
19:15.33infobotACTION kicks Hachiman Technobliterator
19:15.37OluapPlayerWake up you pair of dums
19:18.59XhoI might try and push for Wrath of Night tomorrow but chances are it won't happen considering I'm out tomorrow
19:19.09Wormy_Xho http://imgur.com/gallery/qiiQI
19:19.46XhoWormy_: I own the book and most of it is hilarious
19:20.03Wormy_wow
19:20.12OluapPlayerI'll be out tomorrow to watch Jurassic Donger
19:20.27OluapPlayerCould still do it if we rp before I go though
19:20.40XhoDepends what time you're going
19:20.48XhoI'm going at around 14:30 tomorrow
19:20.50OluapPlayerAround now, tomorrow
19:20.56XhoOh
19:20.57XhoHm
19:21.05XhoDoesn't look like I will do it since I am going quite early
19:21.33OluapPlayerFirst time I go to the cinema in 8 years
19:21.44Xhoforeign territory 4 u
19:21.46Xho"Holocene Extinction: Study Says World in Midst of 6th Period of Mass Extinction"
19:21.49XhoOne thing wrong with that
19:21.57XhoThe last mass extinction was a meteorite hitting the earth
19:22.04XhoOr an asteroid
19:22.10XhoI dunno what the actual astrological term is
19:22.15Xhoastrological
19:22.18Xhoastronomical
19:22.21XhoJesus christ
19:22.31XhoAstrological term is "Bad luck"
19:23.26XhoI'm tempted to get Space Engine
19:24.41Wormy_Asteroid
19:24.51OluapPlayerThey mean humanity's shenanigans are causing a mass extinction
19:25.14Xhostupid hoomans
19:25.21XhoNext mass extinction: Skynet
19:25.27Wormy_Actually no, meterorite is right
19:25.47OluapPlayerIf I'm not mistaken that article also claims humanity itself might not survive
19:25.50OluapPlayerSo Skynet is now
19:25.57XhoiNet
19:26.00Xhodammit apple
19:26.02Wormy_Meteors on the other hand are the result of meteorites vapourising
19:26.21XhoAll of Apple's technology just gains self-awareness and becomes a product of mass consumption AND destruction
19:26.45OluapPlayerSteve Jobs's true master plan
19:31.14XhoActually in the time where we're not doing Wrath of Night it gives me an opportunity to do something
19:32.41Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nalo_Soren admin delete dis pl0x
19:33.18OluapPlayerget fukd
19:33.31OluapPlayerDone
19:33.33Xhonao u fukboi
19:33.34Xhogud
19:35.27OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/BAF7kGj.png
19:37.00Xhohoh
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19:46.13Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/1234827_752605381518319_2967570581339889073_n.jpg?oh=5f2c9132bfcad1fc3b956360ffc10625&oe=56227EFD
19:49.40dino82_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Umbrax finished!
19:54.13OluapPlayerGood job dino
19:54.18OluapPlayerit's gud planet because Spinoluap
19:54.30dino82_@Iluap: Named after you :D
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21:59.43TekDroid:O
22:04.40dromMy cousin and my mother claim that Apple is original.
22:05.18HachimanOriginal sin more like
22:05.19HachimanHAH
22:05.30dromTo make some matters worse, they also state that "Apple's products > everything".
22:07.35dromThe first tablet seems be from 1968, in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey". http://i.imgur.com/HyZRRwO.png
22:08.38The_RandomnessIs it functional?
22:08.41dromIf we don't count the stone tablets the anicent egyptians crafted long time ago.
22:08.55MonetTheRandomness: It was a CRT screen embedded int othe table
22:09.01The_Randomnessah
22:09.40MonetI recall Son tried to sue the estate of Stanley Kubrick for copyright infringement over the tablet's design.
22:09.44MonetSony*
22:09.59dromnever forget http://i.imgur.com/QL4d0wy.jpg
22:10.52MonetI find it funny the number of PADDs a 24th century crew member could own.
22:11.45Monethttps://inlostlands.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/picard-surrounded-by-padds.jpg how many bloody tablets does he need!?
22:12.09The_Randomnessheh
22:12.21dromTekDroid: http://i.imgur.com/yuA7pVE.webm
22:12.37dromMonet: hur
22:13.14dromTekDroid: It's also how I imagine Game Developers on Game Jams/competitions
22:13.23Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11537808_925337394195727_4182300471054962790_n.jpg?oh=7c1a086b29cd62261d027c59c3602677&oe=56314195 Shu'wokerama
22:14.11Monethttp://i.imgur.com/SFdqqwe.jpg in the 24th century they have yet to cure lazy-eye
22:14.36Xho_Drom: 10/10 because American Psycho
22:15.10dromXho_: 'murican Psycho when?
22:15.25Xho_That's the film the gif is taken from
22:15.33dromI know.
22:15.40Xho_den y u ask question
22:15.43Xho_sit down
22:16.06Hachimanolol that gif
22:16.19dromI was joking about a patriotic derivartion of the movie.
22:16.24TekDroiddrom: O.o
22:17.47OluapPlayerHachiman: olol that bird
22:20.12MonetOluapPlayer: Could the DI als obe on the list of forces for 2WBF pt 3?
22:20.44OluapPlayerIf you want to be part of it, I guess so
22:20.45dromThis will never get too old for me http://i.imgur.com/9jRg5US.gif
22:21.12MonetWell if Marigrax is attacking the whole galaxy it would make sense he target their colonies there.
22:21.35OluapPlayerWhat char(s) would you be using?
22:22.29MonetLarnus would be the DI military commander definitely.
22:22.49MonetI oculd add Leondias too (need ot make a page for hi mnow he's lord-admiral)
22:23.02TheImperiosOkay so me and my groupmates are preparing for a fucking exam and that's how we fucking do it
22:23.08TheImperioshttp://cs623419.vk.me/v623419736/364ed/01sIUCqjsgc.jpg We make fucking pictures like this
22:23.19OluapPlayerAre they suited for ground combat?
22:23.34MonetAh
22:23.37MonetLarnus isn't.
22:23.50Xho_*wasn't
22:23.51Hachimanolol
22:23.54Xho_ehheheh
22:23.54OluapPlayerjej
22:24.06MonetBut I have an idea for who could: Tonbas Credavan, if you rememebr him
22:24.18HachimanI remember Credavan as a name
22:24.27Xho_Lord Admiral Leonidas
22:24.32OluapPlayerI remember the name yes
22:24.34Xho_No human would dare mess with someone called that
22:24.37dromI'm uncertain if I would give the Sovereignty colonies in Plazith. I'd definitely add them to the 3rd part (and if it fits, so onward) if anyone sees no problem with that
22:24.51OluapPlayerNo more users in the war
22:24.54HachimanXho_: Leondias, not Leonidas
22:25.06HachimanAlthough Leonidas as a Draconis name would be awesome
22:25.08Xho_was betrayed
22:25.09MonetXho got the reference though lol
22:25.19Xho_Oh wait
22:25.39HachimanI kinda regret not giving the Oevrumine Greek-style names
22:25.53XhoI think it's better that you have the unique language really
22:25.58OluapPlayerI should let you know, for the sake of making the Corruptus a threat, some sections will end in defeat for the good guy side
22:26.01HachimanInstead they are Etruscan-Armenian derived and it is difficult finding sources for Etruscan names
22:26.07OluapPlayerIt won't be all flowers and rainbows like before
22:26.08HachimanOh sweet
22:26.12HachimanI like that
22:26.27XhoI feel a little dirty using Latin sometimes so that's why I came up with Dark Elvish/Protodynastic
22:26.35TheImperiosEtruscan-Armenian
22:26.35MonetI once made a photoshop comic of Leondias going "this is sparta" to Kies but I can't remember where it went
22:26.37TheImperiosWait why
22:27.23XhoYou know I never really explained how the Shiarchon are capable of speaking the Common Tongue
22:27.28OluapPlayerMost specifically, the Bonio will get slaughtered by the millions in this part
22:27.31XhoBecause I'm not very sure myself
22:27.38XhoHerquie - ;_;
22:27.47OluapPlayerSo will the Spinker but not as much
22:28.00dromEh, whatever. I'll just add the Sovereignty to the Plazith.
22:28.00XhoKoluap - ;_?
22:28.12HachimanTheImperios: Because I cannot remember where I got Saranhreia Kharanhrarmer from and assumed Armenian/Etruscan
22:28.15dromThey are fairly expansive after all.
22:28.27TheImperiosNo -ian
22:28.29TheImperiosSo not Armenian
22:28.45HachimanWhat would you say that name sounds like it's from
22:28.56XhoSounds kinda Scandinavian to me
22:29.07XhoOr Germanic
22:29.31dromAs Scandi, I say state that it barely sounds like Scandi.
22:29.36dromcan state*
22:30.01TheImperiosNorth Germanic surname but since you took "kh" I guess you took the basic root from "Armenian"
22:30.14TheImperiosBTW Hachiman: You can make Etruscan names by taking Greek names and wacking them
22:30.26XhoDrom: Well that would be because you are Scandinavian
22:30.35XhoFrom the outside linguistically I'd see it differently
22:31.15Hachimanrite
22:31.22OluapPlayerXho: Do you mind Kithworto and Psi/Mu working in separate teams or do they need to stick together?
22:31.32XhoKithworto can work separately
22:32.10HachimanOther Oevrumine names I had in mind were Khorenlevon Velthurkoldan, Vigaeramais Thesantheisna, and Vulcenthuron Veltitesnar amongst others
22:32.39XhoKithworto is Kithworto so it's self explanatory, Psi and Mu on the other hand are not immortal so they would have to work together
22:32.41TheImperiosOkay that sounds kinda Armenian
22:33.02OluapPlayerRight
22:33.15HachimanI should probably Greek/Etruscan them up a bit though
22:33.22HachimanOr whatever I did for Saranhreia's name
22:33.23TheImperiosHachiman: http://lurkmore.so/images/c/c5/Hach_ibal_mat.jpg True Oevrumine
22:34.12XhoKurdish Bull Men
22:34.27TheImperiosHere
22:34.31TheImperiosSpeech featured a heavy stress on the first syllable of a word, causing syncopation by weakening of the remaining vowels, which then were not represented in writing: Alcsntre for Alexandros, Rasna for Rasena.[38] This speech habit is one explanation of the Etruscan "impossible consonant clusters". The resonants, however, may have been syllabic, accounting for some of the clusters (see below under Consonants). In other cases, the scribe sometimes inse
22:34.31TheImperiosrted a vowel: Greek Herakles became Hercle by syncopation and then was expanded to Herecele. Pallottino[42] regarded this variation in vowels as "instability in the quality of vowels" and accounted for the second phase (e.g. Herecele) as "vowel harmony, i.e., of the assimilation of vowels in neighboring syllables ...."
22:34.52TheImperiosSo take Greek names
22:34.58TheImperiosRemove a lot of vowels
22:35.09TheImperiosThen add them as you see fit
22:35.16XhoThe Etruscans were quite backwards really when I think about it
22:35.28HachimanMind giving me some examples?
22:35.32MonetXho: How so?
22:35.34TheImperiosWell
22:35.40TheImperiosAlexandros -> Alcsntre
22:35.46TheImperiosAnd Heracles -> Hercle - > Hercule
22:35.54XhoMonet: Language-wise
22:35.59TheImperiosThat's why Hercules
22:36.11XhoTheir language wasn't Indo-European which is really weird considering they were based in Italy
22:36.13TheImperiosSo for example
22:36.14TheImperiosHachiman
22:36.24TheImperios-> Hachmn
22:36.37XhoNu - sounds like I just coughed something up there
22:36.39TheImperios-> Hachumn
22:36.41TheImperiosOR something
22:37.15MonetSounds vaguely Egyptian
22:37.28dromWormy_: I'm thinking to let the Sovereignty to colonize a Plazith between 1000 and 2000. But it would be too silly to let them slip unnoticed from DCP seeing that NS is expansionists.
22:37.46dromThat means that will affect our planned fiction.
22:38.04TheImperiosAlso stress on the first syllable
22:38.08TheImperiosSo HACH-mun
22:38.26TheImperiosMonet: Well we do not actually know for sure what vowels Egyptians had
22:39.09MonetTheImperios: We don't.
22:39.14TheImperiosWhat writing systems they had never took account for vowels, because their language like modern Hebrew and Arabic did not give vowels a significant role
22:39.15MonetBut Daniel Jackson does.
22:39.27TheImperiosSo Egyptologists kinda added vowels here and there
22:39.48XhoAncient Egyptian is orthographically devoid of vowels
22:40.19TheImperiosAs in, vowels between words only indicated things like tense and plurality, and did not actually indicate meaning
22:40.26Wormy_drom:  The DCP has only become highly competitive the way it is now very recently
22:40.32TheImperiosExample given in modern Arabic
22:40.37TheImperiosALLAHU AKBAAAAAAAAAAR
22:40.44TheImperiosIs "God is Greatest"
22:41.14dromHow do you say "God is Worstest" in Arabic?
22:41.32TheImperiosBut "Takbir" is "greatening", i.e. "saying ALLAHU AKBAAAAAAR"
22:41.55TheImperiosdrom: Let me find out
22:43.01TheImperiosAllahu al-'aswa
22:43.03MonetMy understanding is allahu akbar to Islamic society is like us saying "praise the Lord" or "Praise be to God"
22:43.13TheImperiosYeah
22:43.29TheImperiosThere's a page in Wikipedia about the usage of "Allahu Akbar"
22:43.52TheImperiosMonet OluapPlayer Hachiman Xho drom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takbir The many ways to explode
22:43.56dromWormy_: Fair enough. But how would you prefer their relations to be? Friends/Ally instantly reduced to Enemy is quite jumpy.
22:44.17HachimanNASHEED
22:44.23OluapPlayerhur
22:44.31TheImperios"f) during the exam John has a brilliant idea, saying the takbir in exclamation 'boo yeah'"
22:44.45OluapPlayerWormy_: Did you see the ending of Fog War part 2?
22:45.05TheImperiosSo Muslims can say "Allahu Akbar" during exams when they come up with something?
22:45.27HachimanThat must be terrifying
22:45.31OluapPlayerolol
22:45.54OluapPlayerTeahcer - F-               Student - ALLAHU-               Teacher - A+! A+!
22:45.55Monet"When the confrontation begins, strike like champions who do not want to go back to this world. Shout, 'Allahu Akbar,' because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers." this feels rather ironic considering the common internet useage of Allahu akbar.
22:46.37Wormy_drom:  Whatever works, thats fine
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22:46.46Wormy_OluapPlayer:  Not yet
22:46.47HachimanTo be fair though "Allahu Ackbar" is pretty terrifying to be heard shouted in real life
22:46.56TheImperiosWell yeah
22:47.00Wormy_But thanks I'll read it now
22:47.25MonetHachiman: We know what's coming.
22:47.43dromWormy_: It does however require more work to the relations in mind for the following 800-1800 years until it becomes reduced to the point of enemies in war.
22:48.07dromhttp://i.imgur.com/n82lJHa.gif
22:48.15MonetDespite the mocking on the internet, hearing it in public is stil ltaken as a prelude to an explosion and dozens of deaths.
22:48.35MonetWhich must make thigns confusing when its used by imams in the call to prayer.
22:48.43HachimanAye
22:48.57MonetThen again
22:49.04MonetImams don't shout it, they sing it.
22:49.20HachimanCould you imagine a school trip that aims to teach kids how to understand Islamic traditions better and the Imam begins with "Allah Ackbar"
22:49.42ImpyDroidEverything explodes
22:50.33dromhttp://i.imgur.com/PPTH9bc.webm
22:50.55Hachimanolol
22:51.00Monetdrom: Its playing
22:51.00Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:51.24OluapPlayer"It's a trap."           "What is?"           "ME!" *boom*
22:51.28Hachimanolol
22:51.28dromWormy_: lolol
22:52.04MonetOn the upside: Fried calamari for everyone!
22:52.13HachimanOh wow
22:52.47ImpyDroidHur
22:53.42ImpyDroidWe have our own meme about Allahu Akbar in Russian
22:53.55HachimanAllahinski Ackbarinov
22:54.05dromImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/8MoPKlT.webm
22:54.24ImpyDroidRussian Muslims usually say the phrase in Russian, and the Russian word for "great" is extremely similar to the word for "bicycle"
22:54.58dromImpyDroid: Related: http://i.imgur.com/iJPwa3q.mp4
22:55.00ImpyDroidCue http://s.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2013/05/24/0/1369340308_802984115.jpg
22:55.26Monet"God is a bicycle"
22:57.23Wormy_thats actually a really good looking bike
22:57.38HachimanIt looks like a dildo with wheels
22:57.56ImpyDroid"ALLAH IS GREAT" "Allah is a bicycle?" "ALLAH IS THE GREATEST, RETARD!" "Allah is the greatest retard?"
22:58.03Wormy_i can't unsee now thank you
22:59.38OluapPlayerolol
23:00.33dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/AOCqg5j.webm
23:00.58HachimanEugh I have to go out to dinner with my sister tomorrow for Father's Day
23:01.35HachimanShe has not said anything to me for the last day or so since she went out on an angered drunken rant at the rest of the family
23:02.18dromhttp://i.imgur.com/FKFo1oq.png
23:02.44HachimanIt is going to be awkward as fuck and honestly I cannot stand to be around that bitch anymore
23:02.59OluapPlayerur an odd bunch
23:03.05OluapPlayerFather's Day is only at August for me hur
23:03.34dromSecond sunday of November here
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23:04.04Hachiman>tfw never going to experience the joy of Father's Day
23:04.23dromHeresy is nigh-fatal here
23:06.24HachimanChildren just are not my kind of thing to deal with in life
23:06.34HachimanThe idea of having kids sounds horrible to me hur
23:07.12ImpyDroidAnd that's why one day Europa will die hur
23:07.45HachimanIf I do have a kid though it will be called either Reptile (boy), Lizard (girl), or Salamander (unisex)
23:08.04ImpyDroidSo you're going to marry Cyrannian
23:08.16Hachimanayy
23:08.35ImpyDroidI dunno I don't get people who do not want to have children on principle
23:08.41dromImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/lqANYvH.png
23:08.51HachimanBecause babies are fucking awful
23:08.55ImpyDroidI mean you have a stagnating/lowering population and high immigration
23:09.15HachimanAlso because my genes are faulty and no kid deserves that
23:09.18ImpyDroidYou're going to get Rome'd
23:09.58ImpyDroidSame
23:09.58dromWormy_gaming TekDroid Techno: http://i.imgur.com/GT7w9Lm.jpg
23:10.03ImpyDroidInsanity runs in my family hur
23:10.16HachimanThat is such a white person thing to say
23:10.20Technobliteratorrofl
23:10.38dromWormy_gaming TekDroid Techno: Bonus http://i.imgur.com/9MybJWe.png
23:10.54ImpyDroidI am not white hur
23:10.58Technobliteratorhaha
23:11.05HachimanI know but it sounds white-ish hur
23:11.16ImpyDroidKoreans can be insane too hur
23:11.38ImpyDroidSeriously though I can't imagine my life without a family
23:11.42TechnobliteratorSee: North Korea
23:11.42ImpyDroidDunno why
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23:11.54ImpyDroidThey're not insane
23:12.09HachimanProbably because Asian/East European principles
23:12.18ImpyDroidThey're just so glorious that they became high of the gloriousness of their supreme leader
23:12.29ImpyDroidI guess
23:12.34ImpyDroidFamily values and all
23:12.40dromImpyDroid: For a strange reason, you reminded me of a dialogue I found when playing Dead State. One among the lines is "What?! Why aren't you a doctor yet?!".
23:12.49HachimanOver in the UK attempting to support a family post-2000s is a very financially-devastating move
23:12.54ImpyDroidNot Eastern European influence probably
23:13.12ImpyDroidRussia has a bad population problem
23:13.20HachimanUnless you live on an estate and get benefit money from the government
23:13.28ImpyDroidHachiman: Let me guess
23:13.33HachimanIn which case you need to stop being a stupid teenage whorefuck and get a job
23:13.36ImpyDroidChavs abusing the system
23:13.39HachimanYeah
23:13.52dromThat when speaking to a vetentarian student surivior trying to pratice medicine on fellow suriviors in a zombie apoclypse.
23:14.02HachimanWhich is why so many migrants fulfill British jobs
23:14.24MonetThose immigrants als odo the jobs a lot of young peopel don't want
23:14.24HachimanBecause a majority of the British populace does not want to bother actively looking for them
23:14.40MonetThey're filling a void really.
23:15.14dromImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/jftxZK6.webm
23:15.30HachimanThe benefit system is supposedly a beneficial gesture towards keeping the homeless population in check and yet it devastates the rest of the UK economy
23:15.41ImpyDroid...Holy fuck
23:15.42HachimanBecause these people live off of tax money
23:16.02dromDis comment "Chameleon Green ... IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE"
23:16.06ImpyDroidSomehow despite being hated by the rest of the world I still feel kinda safer in Russia
23:16.12MonetNot many young people today wanto to be builders, farmers or work in a shop. They want ot be footballers.
23:16.24ImpyDroidSame here
23:16.44MonetWe need more celebrities wh oare famous for more than being pretty.
23:17.02MonetWe need a modern-day Isenbard Kingdom Brunel.
23:17.36HachimanAnd better politicians who understand the economic struggle
23:18.04HachimanPoliticians who have not spent their entire lives never having experienced low- or middle-class standards of living
23:18.16dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/6TicXyK.jpg?1
23:18.28TechnobliteratorThe politicians understand the economic struggle, but it's far more complicated to solve than that
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23:18.33Hachimandrom: Holy shit how horrifying
23:18.41ExternalHello
23:18.49dromAyy
23:19.03ExternalCharles_Murray: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/roblox/images/f/ff/Reminder.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150402051251
23:19.07TechnobliteratorAs for politicians "who have not spent their entire lives never having experienced low- or middle-class standards of living", well, lots of our MPs actually have
23:19.10ExternalLife.
23:19.17MonetThe economy is the most prolific systems humanity has devised, and we have a lot of trouble actually keeping it running smoothly
23:19.28TechnobliteratorHonestly, the problem is capitalism
23:19.30TechnobliteratorIt's a mess
23:19.42HachimanNote how after the NHS gets privatized the only people who will be able to actually get substantial medical care are politicians and other members of the high-class and elite
23:20.03TechnobliteratorThe NHS will not get privatized
23:20.04Charles_MurrayExternal: I can't read it because wikia is being dum, can you send it to me through imgur?
23:20.12MonetThe problem with MPs is even if they're not from Eton they stil lget a comfortable MPs salary
23:20.34dromI wish I could give Xho this http://imgur.com/gallery/CKmRuws
23:20.42TechnobliteratorThe Conservative government does not have nearly the majority they'd need to do that - and they wouldn't do it for idealistic reasons
23:21.00TechnobliteratorIf they dared to privatize the NHS, then everyone would rush to vote Labour and they'd discredit themselves indefinitely
23:21.14MonetThat's the beuty of democracy
23:21.15TechnobliteratorAnd really, Cameron's too centralist to genuinely believe that
23:21.32TechnobliteratorIf anyone were to privatize the NHS, it'd be that Thatcher witch
23:21.37TechnobliteratorAnd she's looooong gone
23:21.45HachimanAnd notice how Thatcher is also Conservative
23:21.52ExternalCharles_Murray: http://imgur.com/XyNCHNf
23:22.02MonetOne of the great merits of democracy is if the public despises what a party is doing, they're almost gone come next election.
23:22.28TechnobliteratorThatcherist politics are drastically different from non-Thatcherist politics
23:22.33Hachiman>UKIP
23:22.35TechnobliteratorNo Conservative majority government did the things she did
23:22.36Charles_Murrayo.o
23:22.40HachimanUKIP is practically non-existent now
23:22.46TechnobliteratorYup, and I love it
23:22.50TechnobliteratorFuck UKIP
23:23.00MonetI love how they fell apart *because* they only got one seat.
23:23.31MonetThat and Farage be came a total whiny assfuck because of how badly he lost.
23:23.55TechnobliteratorI get the feeling soon that we'll be out of the Depression in a few year's time and then Labour will win the next election
23:23.58TechnobliteratorIt always happens
23:24.08HachimanLabour lost because, despite how much of an asshat David Cameron is, people are still sore over Gordon Brown and Tony Blair
23:24.09MonetThat's the other side of politics
23:24.18TechnobliteratorMore because Miliband is a twat
23:24.27HachimanConsidering it was Labour that brought the UK into this mess
23:24.28TechnobliteratorHe was fucking useless, seriously
23:24.33Technobliteratoreh
23:24.46TechnobliteratorNo, it was the economic depression that brought us into it, and Labour who did nothing about it
23:25.00TechnobliteratorBut Labour have a long history of not being very good with the UK economy
23:25.02Technobliterator:    |
23:25.02MonetAlso Thatcher got in because Labour were tits.
23:25.04dromOluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/EGj1sbK.jpg Xho-effect
23:25.14TechnobliteratorI liked Attlee's government, they were good
23:25.20TechnobliteratorAny other Labour government I hate
23:25.40TechnobliteratorI wish the Greens would become relevant
23:25.54HachimanI was very tempted to vote Green but then honestly I do not agree with some of their policies
23:25.54MonetBasically Labour scres up the economy -> Everyone votes Tory -> Tories fix the country -> Labour promise a better quality of life -> Everyoen votes Labour -> the cycle repeats
23:25.57HachimanSuch as being anti-nuclear
23:26.01ImpyDroidSilly Europeans with their *democracy*
23:26.23Charles_MurrayRussia stronk
23:26.33TechnobliteratorI agree with being anti-nuclear
23:26.37Hachimandum
23:26.38ImpyDroidSometimes I wonder how really democratic Europe is considering the same parties have been in power for decades
23:26.43TechnobliteratorNuclear weaponry is inhumane
23:26.51TechnobliteratorIt is immoral
23:26.57HachimanNuclear weaponry may be but nuclear energy is incredibly efficient
23:27.00MonetAbout as immoral as any other kind of weapon really
23:27.03ExternalNUCLEAR WEAPONS 4 LYFE
23:27.03HachimanAnd Greens oppose it
23:27.06TechnobliteratorOh, nuclear energy
23:27.15MonetYeah
23:27.23ExternalYep.
23:27.26MonetGreens wanted to tear down all our nuclear power stations out of principle
23:27.37TechnobliteratorWell, it may be efficient, but it's also potentially damaging
23:27.40TechnobliteratorAnd unsafe
23:27.46HachimanSo is anything though
23:27.50MonetNothign about how they're comparatively the cleanest and msot energy-efficient source of energy we have outside of renewables
23:27.53HachimanYou can make that argument about practically anything
23:27.55TechnobliteratorNot ot the extent that wind energy is
23:27.56Charles_MurrayParadoxically, from a purely practical standpoint, nuclear weapons tend to prevent war, not cause them.
23:28.13ImpyDroidCharles_Murray, also known as Gandhi
23:28.25MonetCharles_Murray: My reason for opposing the dismantling of the UK's trident submarines
23:28.26TechnobliteratorNuclear plants in Japan proved this was the case
23:28.35MonetJapan is different
23:28.44TechnobliteratorAlthough, I think if the Greens ever did become relevant, they would never pull that policy off
23:28.47MonetThe UK doesn't sit on a faultline.
23:28.52HachimanOf course anything is dangerous if mishandled
23:29.06Charles_Murray^
23:29.12HachimanIf anything we need improved nuclear sites
23:29.16MonetNuclear powerstations have an insane number of safety procedures and protocols built into them
23:29.23dromHachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/OaUva87
23:29.23HachimanAye
23:29.28MonetBut in this case, insanity is good
23:30.21Charles_MurrayImpyDroid : lol
23:30.21Hachimandrom: hur
23:30.52MonetAs good as it sounded, I was never too ptimistic on this idea of the Greens giving every person in the country a basic sstipend regardless of age or status of employment.
23:30.54dromI do really wonder how it is like to raise children as a deaf parent.
23:31.11MonetI do wonder if that was politicianese though: A promise they made just to sound like the good guys
23:31.16TechnobliteratorI wish communism worked as a system
23:31.34HachimanIsn't socialism a better equivalent to communism?
23:31.42MonetSocialism is, yes
23:31.55TechnobliteratorIt is in many ways
23:31.57MonetBut I think Karl Mark believed that socialism was an evolved form of communism
23:32.03MonetMarx*
23:32.04Charles_Murray-.-
23:32.09TechnobliteratorThe NHS, and the early Labour party policies, were socialist
23:32.21TechnobliteratorOf course, Blair got rid of that
23:32.33MonetI think what happened with the USSR was it tried evolving too early.
23:32.35ExternalI don't see what's so bad about communism.
23:32.36TechnobliteratorAnd Thatcher
23:32.42Charles_MurraySocialism = the belief that societies should be fair and equal in terms of wealth distribution
23:32.51HachimanExternal: Because humans are imperfect thus communism cannot work
23:32.56TechnobliteratorExternal, any look into the USSR's history will tell you what's bad about it
23:32.57HachimanAt least when put into practice
23:33.02ExternalGood point.
23:33.14Charles_MurrayCommunism = The state has control of all wealth and resources and is the only thing trusted to do anything for the good of the people
23:33.18TechnobliteratorIt ends up becoming a dictatorship
23:33.31Charles_MurraySo what is good for the state in communism, including oppressing people, is thought to be ultimately good for the people.
23:33.51ExternalTechnobliterator: The USSR wasn't the only country who had communism in their time, so we shouldn't judge communism based on a single country.
23:33.55HachimanWhich, as we can see from Stalin's practices, it is not
23:34.00HachimanExternal: North Korea
23:34.19ExternalEhhh...
23:34.20HachimanTHAT is a modern example as to why communism cannot work as a political or economic system
23:34.22ExternalVietnam?
23:34.28MonetNorth Korea could be seeing its own Perestroika any year now
23:34.41ImpyDroidFrankly
23:34.58MonetKim Jong Un is quite ill, has been absent for long stretches of time and does he have any viable children?
23:35.04ImpyDroidNone of the communists of the 20th century truly built anything resembling actual communism as it is according to Marx
23:35.19HachimanBut Marx was a socialist rather than a communist from what I know
23:35.26ImpyDroidThey even failed at constructing socialims
23:35.30ImpyDroid*socialism
23:35.58MonetIts a pretty common mistake to assume Stalin's communism is what communism was supposed to be.
23:36.02ImpyDroidThe USSR was, de facto, a capitalist socety
23:36.04Charles_MurrayI've read Marx, and he never actually came up with a government system of his own.
23:36.05HachimanMonet: I have not heard any word regarding Kim Jong Un actually having children
23:36.18TechnobliteratorExternal, the USSR is the more obvious example of it
23:36.24Charles_MurrayHe was more of an academic philosopher in that his texts were more descriptive than prescriptive
23:36.29TechnobliteratorIf you want a modern example, Cuba or China
23:36.43ImpyDroidState capitalism is still capitalism, and what the USSR had was identical to an early 20th century monopoly
23:36.45MonetChina is capitalism pretending ot be communist
23:36.47HachimanOh wait he does
23:36.54ImpyDroidNothing like actual socialism
23:37.04HachimanKim Ju-ae
23:37.15Externalhttp://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-atheist-community-hurting-itself/
23:37.22External"Atheist, agnostic, Christian, Muslim, Jew... can't we all put our differences aside and come together to destroy Scientology?"
23:38.03Hachimanayy
23:38.06ImpyDroidActual socialism would be the workers themselves having control over the means of production, which is to say just a business that runs itself
23:38.07Charles_MurrayHe was the one who put forward the idea that capitalism was unsustainable and that there would eventually be a proletariat democracy put in place.
23:38.16ImpyDroidNothing more, nothing less
23:38.19Monethttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/15/north-korea-execution-kim-jong-un-rumour the cracks show
23:38.21Charles_MurrayLenin was the one who came up the idea that it would happen through revolution.
23:38.39HachimanScientology is why corporations and religion should not mix
23:38.41ImpyDroidLenin quite honestly had to twist Marx extensively to support his goals
23:39.01ImpyDroidFrom this point on there were no true socialists in the Marxist sense of the word
23:39.45MonetKim Jong Un had to recently postpone a trip to Moscow due to “internal Korean affairs”, yet Alex iTsipias has been to Moscow twice in three months despite Greece's economy and financial situation being in the crapper
23:39.46ImpyDroidOnly state capitalism and sometimes quasi-feudalism
23:39.51ImpyDroidNo socialism
23:39.52ImpyDroidNone
23:40.10HachimanQuasi-feudalism
23:40.15HachimanThat sounds so cool hur
23:40.41ImpyDroidLenin had some basic self-government among workers but even that was limited
23:41.03Monet"of, relating to, or like the feudal system, or its political, military, social, and economic structure. " isn't this kinda like the DI?
23:41.25ImpyDroidQuasi-feudalism was what Stalin had, he essentially restored the old serfdom tradition of the autocratic monarchy
23:41.33MonetI mean...in the DI nobles are still relevant and pretty integral to the Imperium's workings
23:43.02ExternalOh. Tom is Halopediaman
23:43.08ExternalJust figured that out
23:43.36Hachimandur
23:43.50MonetYeah reading this Guardian article it seems like the only authority and gravitas Kim Jong Un presently has is "I am the grandson of Kim Il Sung".
23:44.12HachimanTo be fair, since North Korea is a Far Eastern state
23:44.25HachimanThat is enough gravitas necessary to wield the position he is in
23:44.51HachimanMaybe not as effectively as possible but it is absolutely minimal
23:45.12ImpyDroidI still want someone to invade North Korea
23:45.16ImpyDroidPreferrably Putin
23:45.18MonetNot when he had to recently remove his chief of defence for some obscure reason.
23:45.28MonetOr his uncle
23:45.28Hachimaninb4 Russians come back to resolve the mess they caused
23:45.57ImpyDroidThen I can finally return to my ancestral homeland
23:46.08HachimanJust go to South Korea
23:46.41MonetThe only other source of gravitas is ascending ot the peak of North Korea's tallest mountain recently.
23:46.55HachimanMonet: By helicopter
23:47.08ImpyDroidWell technically I am mixed North-South
23:47.25ImpyDroidBut most Russian Koreans are predominantly Best Korean
23:47.26HachimanOh and also discovering/engineering the cure for AIDS, Ebola, and cancer
23:47.26MonetJong-Un - It still counts! I got ot the top!
23:48.30HachimanI honestly cannot wait for dissent to occur amongst his military and a people's revolt takes place
23:48.50MonetWell as I said, his chief of defence did somethign he didn't like
23:49.03Externalhttps://youtu.be/Ba6vOZ-idHo?t=35s "ATHEISTS ARE MEEEAAAAANNN"
23:49.03MonetBut i cannto tell what. So I presume the cracks are there
23:49.35Hachiman>Amazing Atheist
23:49.37TechnobliteratorIt won't happen
23:49.37HachimanFuck off
23:49.55TechnobliteratorThey're brainwashed into loving him
23:50.05TechnobliteratorAlso what's wrong with TAA :   |
23:50.14HachimanI do not like him much
23:50.15ImpyDroidLet me explain why we like Putin
23:50.29HachimanI mean he says things that I tend to agree with but he has some views I honestly despise
23:50.43MonetIs he satire or is that someone else?
23:50.45ImpyDroidWe like Putin not because he is competent but because everyone else is even worse
23:51.09TechnobliteratorHe's satirical/douchey on a lot of topics, but overall entertaining and makes some good points
23:51.18HachimanImpyDroid: That is how British politics works except we hate the finest candidate as well
23:51.20ExternalI don't care about him. I just watch his videos to see how stupid some people can be.
23:51.24Technobliteratorbut I disagree with a few of his views
23:52.06External^
23:52.22ExternalThe people he rant about are pretty dumb though.
23:52.51MonetIt might be that it's common for Brits to take the piss out of everybody.
23:53.21MonetWe have this masochistic love for hearoing how shit the UK is.
23:54.20HachimanExternal: Easy targets for him since he cannot stand up on a leg in an actual intellectual situation
23:54.41ExternalAy.
23:54.53HachimanIf I recall, TAA is very anti-theistic
23:55.06HachimanWhich is as bad as being a religious extremist
23:55.57MonetHere in the UK we complain about council housing, teenage pregnancies, dumb-ass politicians, intolerance, football hooligans and chavs. But a lot of us don't actually want to *leave* the country over it. (at least ,I don't think we do)
23:56.12HachimanMy parents do hur
23:56.21HachimanThey plan on moving to France once they can afford the funds
23:56.25HachimanGod knows why though
23:56.42MonetFrance is seen as posh
23:56.58MonetEven if they can be rather intolerant of foreigners
23:57.10HachimanAnd funnily enough France is comparable to the "millionaire in Thailand" situation from what I hear
23:57.21HachimanLarge properties cost less by British standard
23:57.37MonetIts because we had that terrible Thatcher-era housing bubble
23:58.19Externalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSSZn9SxMrQ <---Believe it or not, people actually SUSCRIBE to him.
23:58.28HachimanI dunno where I would wanna go if I ever left the UK
23:58.46MonetThat might be one of the other reasons why UK citizens stay despite the problems
23:58.55MonetBritian is like...easy mode.
23:59.12TechnobliteratorI'd live anywhere but the UK
23:59.16TechnobliteratorDull, boring country
23:59.17HachimanIt is difficult living in the UK, but far more difficult living anywhere else
23:59.35ExternalU.S.A?
23:59.36TechnobliteratorIceland has it easy
23:59.39HachimanFuck USA
23:59.40Technobliteratorahahahahahs
23:59.47HachimanIt is equally bad if not worse

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