00:00.11 | *** join/#sporewiki Monet (5770b232@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.112.178.50) |
00:00.25 | Wormy_ | Monet: Less than a minute |
00:00.29 | HachiTop | ONE MINUTE |
00:00.39 | Monet | I'm watching |
00:00.44 | Wormy_ | ONE HOUR |
00:01.03 | HachiTop | ONE SECOND |
00:01.09 | OluapPlayer | ONE DAY, ONE WEEK, ONE MONTH, ONE YEAR |
00:01.37 | OluapPlayer | Wait what the fuck |
00:01.46 | HachiTop | What the fuck |
00:01.56 | OluapPlayer | Did they fucking delay it by an hour |
00:02.22 | Wormy_ | yep |
00:02.29 | OluapPlayer | Goddamnit |
00:02.32 | Wormy_ | Heh I cursed it |
00:02.51 | OluapPlayer | dangit wiggly |
00:03.24 | HachiTop | Ugh I have fucking college tomorrow |
00:03.45 | HachiTop | You cannot expect me to stay up so late to watch this |
00:03.51 | HachiTop | At least I can get my homework done |
00:04.04 | Monet | Next E3 should be in New York. |
00:04.16 | Monet | Then we only have a five-hour difference |
00:04.36 | Wormy_ | 'murica |
00:04.57 | Wormy_ | Oh well. Call me back |
00:05.04 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8eb1b2b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.177.178.176) |
00:05.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everybody |
00:05.14 | Wormy_STO | hi |
00:05.28 | Wormy_STO | If you came for the PC conference, seems its delayed 1 hour |
00:08.41 | *** join/#sporewiki External (b8a66276@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.166.98.118) |
00:09.36 | External | https://youtu.be/zdh_CR42c2E?t=1m28s Isn't this guys english awwwweeesome? |
00:11.32 | HachiTop | >ajeel |
00:11.43 | HachiTop | Fucking kill me |
00:12.14 | External | Yeah |
00:12.24 | External | I don't think English is his first language |
00:12.25 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno if its fair to mock people because they have a shaky grasp of a language. :p |
00:13.15 | External | Yeah, I just wanted to share that. |
00:13.42 | Wormy_STO | Only if you can't live up to speaking another language fluently jk |
00:14.24 | External | "Erm...what does naranjo mean?" |
00:14.28 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
00:14.44 | *** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@CPEbc140134be73-CMbc140134be70.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
00:15.23 | External | That Prototype character is a little overpowered |
00:15.49 | External | Like very overpowered |
00:16.45 | Monet | So many people voting D o nthe questoion |
00:18.25 | DrodoEmpire | Who wants to do an RP? :p I wouldn't mind doing one with a few people. |
00:18.49 | Monet | External: Kinda reminds me of a Sporewiki supernatural lol |
00:18.50 | External | ~test |
00:18.50 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny |
00:19.04 | External | Yeah. |
00:20.43 | External | Of course, I don't think supernaturals can survive a FUCKING NUCLEAR EXPLOSION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dmu0E0p-7w |
00:21.15 | External | *https://youtu.be/3dmu0E0p-7w?t=7m |
00:21.25 | Monet | Tyraaz once ate a nuclear cruise missile. |
00:21.58 | HachiTop | Aye |
00:22.00 | External | ...and regenerate their entire body from a CROW |
00:22.56 | Monet | We've had supernaturals come back from less I think |
00:32.05 | DrodoEmpire | test |
00:34.03 | DrodoEmpire | Anybody? Non-canon RP? |
00:35.54 | HachiTop | Not really, I have homework to do and I have college tomorrow |
00:36.08 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
00:37.07 | Monet | I like these questions on the twitch stream |
00:37.56 | Monet | Actually this gives me an idea. Sporewiki events quiz |
00:38.35 | External | You know, I bet that fictionverse drinking game would've attracted more people |
00:39.11 | Monet | External: We found that such a thing may cause hospitalisation due ot alcohol posioning |
00:39.46 | External | Yeah. But I guess it would've been fun |
00:39.55 | Monet | We did try it |
00:39.57 | External | Substitute for alchohol? |
00:40.02 | External | *alcohol |
00:40.34 | Monet | Wel lthere was plenty |
00:40.55 | Monet | Who'd be up for a Sporewiki quiz to pass the time? We can cycle quizmasters |
00:41.45 | External | Sure |
00:41.49 | External | Nothing to edit |
00:42.05 | External | And I am listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkdl2eExHQ |
00:42.09 | External | SO PLEASE |
00:42.41 | Monet | Any others interested? |
00:42.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
00:43.03 | DrodoEmpire | Going to be doing an RP, but I'll certainly try and juggle both. XD |
00:44.01 | Monet | Okay. |
00:44.30 | Monet | Thosse who are participating pick three letters. |
00:45.03 | External | A M, Z |
00:45.22 | HachiTop | I dunno about Sporewiki quizzes considering information is always up for retcon and edit |
00:45.42 | DrodoEmpire | D U and M |
00:45.44 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
00:45.56 | Monet | HachiTop: The quizzes could be old information too |
00:46.36 | Monet | Right then. Therefore the first topic will be.... |
00:46.59 | Monet | History of the Milky Way. |
00:48.51 | Monet | Question One: What kind of structure is Station Halcyon? A) Stanford Torus, B) O'Niell Cylinder, C) Ringworld, D) Hollow Planet |
00:49.14 | DrodoEmpire | O'Niell Cylinder. |
00:49.43 | Monet | External? |
00:49.57 | External | I don't know what that is, I will guess. |
00:49.59 | External | c |
00:50.13 | Monet | One point to Drodo. |
00:50.35 | External | gg |
00:50.56 | DrodoEmpire | jumps around, blowing an airhorn before kicking External in the face |
00:50.57 | Vincent20100 | I will play too :p |
00:50.59 | DrodoEmpire | FUCK YOU |
00:51.02 | DrodoEmpire | I'M A GOD |
00:51.17 | Monet | 2) Name the five primary Milky Way Precursors. |
00:51.22 | OluapPlayer | 9 MINUTES UNTIL PC GAMING SHOW hfor real this time |
00:51.33 | DrodoEmpire | stop dead in his tracks |
00:51.36 | DrodoEmpire | Oh... |
00:51.39 | DrodoEmpire | Uhh |
00:51.39 | External | Hmm... |
00:51.54 | External | errrmmm |
00:52.03 | External | :| |
00:52.04 | Monet | It doesn't have to be their true name but an acceptable alternate name is fine |
00:52.10 | Monet | One point for each correct answer |
00:52.15 | DrodoEmpire | Neanderthals? I know they were around for a bit... |
00:52.26 | Monet | Also Vincent yes you can play too |
00:52.28 | External | Catharsis could be one...? |
00:52.46 | External | I am brain dead |
00:53.33 | External | Ah, Draconians! |
00:53.40 | Wormy_STO | yes |
00:53.42 | Monet | I will provide the scores after five answers from each. "Pass" is an acceptable answer. |
00:54.04 | External | blows an airhorn in DrodoEmpires ear |
00:54.10 | External | "I OWND U" |
00:54.24 | DrodoEmpire | runs away and cries like a little bitch |
00:54.25 | External | Hmm...the Greys? |
00:54.27 | Wormy_ | To be fair, Thals are Archaeohumanity |
00:54.29 | DrodoEmpire | D:> |
00:54.38 | DrodoEmpire | The ayy lmaos |
00:55.04 | Wormy_ | just not superadvanced |
00:55.52 | Wormy_ | Gabe Newell right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXxOjOF8H8 |
00:56.38 | OluapPlayer | 4 MINUTES |
00:57.03 | OluapPlayer | Valve claims they're not going to be at E3 this year |
00:57.04 | Monet | SHall I give out answers? |
00:57.14 | External | What the hell |
00:57.15 | OluapPlayer | So unless they make a surprise appearance, Gaben should be nowhere to be seen |
00:57.42 | External | Please Monet |
00:58.10 | Vincent20100 | Monet: We need more questions :p |
00:58.22 | Monet | Ataien, Chitauri, Pseudomorphs, Ashtar and Greys |
00:58.27 | Monet | External gets two points |
00:58.45 | External | MWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA |
00:58.55 | Monet | Next question. |
00:59.11 | OluapPlayer | ONE MINUTE |
00:59.16 | OluapPlayer | *TWO |
00:59.56 | Wormy_ | ONE HOUR |
01:00.09 | OluapPlayer | stop dis |
01:00.09 | External | ^ |
01:00.11 | Vincent20100 | 47 seconds. Do I win? |
01:00.15 | External | Ahh... |
01:00.20 | External | freaking timing |
01:00.38 | External | I win. Do I get a cash prize? |
01:00.40 | Monet | The Marinox can trace their lineage to which planet? A) Earth B) Draka-2 C) Kingus D) Macronormus |
01:00.59 | Vincent20100 | C? |
01:01.01 | OluapPlayer | IT BEGINS |
01:01.06 | External | A, B, C, or D |
01:01.10 | External | I pick A |
01:01.29 | Wormy_ | Yes, in Zimbabwean dollars |
01:01.42 | External | Damn. |
01:01.56 | External | At least I can convert them to U.S dollars...right? |
01:02.16 | Monet | Ew Mountain Dew |
01:02.39 | Wormy_ | Few billion to the dollar, yeah |
01:03.10 | Monet | The answer is.... |
01:03.20 | Monet | Draka-2 |
01:03.22 | External | Awesome |
01:03.24 | OluapPlayer | FUCKING MOUNTAIN DEW |
01:03.26 | OluapPlayer | WHERE'S DORITOS |
01:03.37 | External | lol |
01:03.41 | Wormy_ | They had hyperinflation you see |
01:03.47 | External | Wormy_: Who cares? I can buy some http://www.amazon.com/Zimbabwe-100-000-Dollar-Bill/dp/B00V8ABBEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434502934&sr=8-1&keywords=100+trillion+dollar+zimbabwe |
01:03.49 | Monet | No one gets any points this round |
01:04.10 | External | I still win |
01:04.14 | External | :) |
01:07.22 | Monet | 3) What group activated the Xhodocto Monolith? A) Samariatans B) Zulu C) Goa'uld D) Kei'un |
01:07.42 | Vincent20100 | D? |
01:08.10 | Wormy_ | Now there are shitting Mario's in the comments |
01:09.57 | External | D |
01:09.59 | External | DDDD |
01:10.30 | Monet | External: I'm waiting for other answers |
01:11.03 | DrodoEmpire | I thought it was the Aztecs. :p |
01:11.03 | Vincent20100 | External: You want the D? o.O |
01:11.47 | Monet | DrodoEMpire: Alright We'll add E) Aztecs |
01:11.52 | External | Screw you. >:( |
01:12.00 | Monet | Because Aztecs are psychos like that |
01:12.45 | DrodoEmpire | Eh they weren't psychopathic. No more so than the Europeans |
01:12.57 | Monet | Anyway the answer is D |
01:13.05 | External | :D |
01:13.06 | Wormy_ | Their mythology fits. |
01:13.29 | Monet | Points to External and VIncent |
01:14.02 | External | punches Vincent20100 and DrodoEmpire |
01:14.05 | External | I WIN STILL |
01:14.52 | Wormy_ | #pcmasterrace |
01:15.29 | External | ^ |
01:15.34 | Vincent20100 | ^ |
01:15.37 | Monet | 4) Where on Earth was the central operations centre for the Draconid Imperiumlocated ? A) The Alps, B) Mount Kilamanjairo C) New York CIty D) Tokyo E) Cornwall |
01:15.52 | Wormy_ | GAMING SCIENTIST |
01:16.08 | Wormy_ | two best things ever in one job |
01:16.19 | External | E. Definitely E |
01:16.19 | DrodoEmpire | Alps. |
01:16.45 | Wormy_ | A or E |
01:17.07 | Monet | Wormy_: I need one answer |
01:17.10 | Wormy_ | Whether or not its central in one or other I can't remember |
01:17.16 | Wormy_ | I'll go for A |
01:17.19 | DrodoEmpire | Wait |
01:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | What happens if we're both correct? |
01:17.34 | DrodoEmpire | (We both guessed Alps) |
01:17.38 | DrodoEmpire | Share points? |
01:17.42 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: You both get oen point |
01:17.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
01:17.47 | Wormy_ | You said it first tho |
01:17.56 | DrodoEmpire | Nah its fine |
01:18.10 | TekDroid | O.o Apparently I've been playing Skyrim on my terrible integrated graphics. |
01:18.28 | DrodoEmpire | Get a better graphics card kid |
01:18.30 | DrodoEmpire | >:3 |
01:18.42 | Monet | Vincent? |
01:18.51 | TekDroid | I do. O.o I can't change to it. |
01:19.05 | External | TekDroid: Death to outdated graphics drivers! |
01:19.41 | Monet | The answer is.....A, the Alps. Point each to Drodo and Wormy |
01:20.07 | DrodoEmpire | shakes Wormy, screaming and crying, before hugging him tightly |
01:20.18 | Wormy_ | There was a base in Victorian England I remember, but i didn't think it was *central*. |
01:20.41 | Monet | Wormy_: There was a satellite outpost under the Ridgeway |
01:23.13 | Wormy_ | Ah |
01:23.26 | Wormy_ | You know there are people I know who have met dragons there |
01:23.43 | Wormy_ | and all sorts of insane things |
01:23.44 | External | Dragons |
01:23.47 | Monet | 5) What event occured shortly after Princess Maryah hatched? A) Nothing B) Draka-2 was destroyed by demons C) Koluap temporarily died D) The Loron invaded Draka-2 E) Koluap got married |
01:24.12 | Wormy_ | Sleep out in the open on the Ridgeway, and you'll regret it |
01:24.32 | DrodoEmpire | Jet fuel began to melt steel beams |
01:24.32 | Wormy_ | Alternativewly they might have been high |
01:24.38 | External | I would have to guess....E or B |
01:24.49 | DrodoEmpire | Final answer |
01:24.57 | External | Wormy_: But seriously....DRAGONS?! |
01:25.05 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: I'm not creating a sixth option for you |
01:25.08 | Wormy_ | Well, a Wyrm |
01:25.26 | DrodoEmpire | Oh okay |
01:25.45 | DrodoEmpire | [22:23] <Monet> 5) What event occured shortly after Princess Maryah hatched? A) Nothing B) Draka-2 was destroyed by demons C) Koluap temporarily died D) The Loron invaded Draka-2 E) Koluap got married F) Jet fuel began to melt steel beams |
01:25.51 | DrodoEmpire | I added it myself. :3 |
01:25.58 | External | Smartass. |
01:26.05 | Monet | ~slap DrodoEmpire |
01:26.06 | infobot | ACTION slaps DrodoEmpire, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
01:26.21 | Monet | Wormy_: An event like that so crazy, is it that out of the question? |
01:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | looks at Monet, offended. |
01:26.50 | Monet | I'm holding the number of options to five |
01:27.02 | Wormy_ | they deny being high, but its funny how they effect your memory lol |
01:27.06 | DrodoEmpire | I'm holding it to six. |
01:27.29 | Monet | I'm the one asking the question though |
01:27.39 | Monet | You have five options. |
01:27.51 | Wormy_ | B] |
01:28.08 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
01:28.32 | DrodoEmpire | [22:23] <Monet> 5) What event occured shortly after Princess Maryah hatched? A) Nothing B) Draka-2 was destroyed by demons C) Koluap temporarily died D) The Loron invaded Draka-2 E) Jet Fuel began to melt steel beams |
01:28.35 | DrodoEmpire | E. |
01:29.03 | External | drags DrodoEmpire to the bottom of the sea |
01:29.09 | Monet | My IRC client allows me to see all conversation entries fro mwhen I joined |
01:29.11 | Wormy_ | steel beams melt jet fuel |
01:29.25 | Hachiman | I am gonna go with E |
01:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | ~slap Wormy_ |
01:29.31 | infobot | ACTION slaps Wormy_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
01:29.43 | Monet | External: Your final answer? |
01:29.57 | DrodoEmpire | drowns, and dies. So much for DrodoEmpire. |
01:30.06 | External | B |
01:30.33 | Monet | The answer is.... |
01:30.36 | Monet | B |
01:30.40 | External | :DDDDD |
01:30.51 | DrodoEmpire | shakes his head angrily. |
01:31.04 | Monet | External gets the point. |
01:31.14 | Monet | oluap doesn't marry Windey until some time later. |
01:32.11 | Wormy_ | Drodo: Total War now has mythical creatures. |
01:32.12 | Monet | Koluap* |
01:32.27 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Yeah Warhammer Total War is gonna be awesome shit |
01:32.32 | Wormy_ | mwah hah hah |
01:32.43 | DrodoEmpire | *Perfect* series for Warhammer |
01:32.48 | Hachiman | FUCKING |
01:32.50 | Hachiman | TOTAL WARHAMMER |
01:32.56 | Hachiman | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
01:33.06 | DrodoEmpire | And considering Attila was a solid title, I have some confidence |
01:33.12 | DrodoEmpire | Its so fucking awesome |
01:33.14 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
01:33.14 | Monet | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHAMMER |
01:33.34 | External | I never played Warhammer. |
01:33.38 | External | Seems like I should try it |
01:33.47 | DrodoEmpire | Have you played Total War? |
01:33.53 | Hachiman | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH |
01:35.04 | Wormy_ | Ê·áµÊ³áµÊ° |
01:35.14 | External | Didn't expect that |
01:35.38 | Monet | *Imperial March plays* |
01:37.28 | External | Monet: Nope. Still listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkdl2eExHQ |
01:37.33 | External | I don't know why though |
01:38.24 | Vincent20100 | External: I prefer this personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBiBlB-OwCY&index=1&list=WL |
01:38.42 | Hachiman | KILLER INSTINCT |
01:38.48 | Hachiman | CONFIRMED FOR PC |
01:38.55 | External | I finally found the Nathierm Imperiums music.... |
01:39.03 | External | AND IT WAS DESTROYED IN 2808 |
01:39.07 | External | ;-; |
01:39.39 | Monet | 6) What cataclysm preceeded Womulus II's unification of Mirenton A) Nuclear War B) The rise of Communism C) Resource wars D) Extraterrestrial contact E) A shortage of pies |
01:39.42 | DrodoEmpire | points and laughs |
01:40.00 | External | E |
01:40.05 | External | Obviously E |
01:40.10 | DrodoEmpire | Tupac was shot. |
01:40.16 | External | Right Wormy_? |
01:40.30 | External | But seriously, C |
01:40.41 | DrodoEmpire | Watch it be E. |
01:40.54 | Vincent20100 | A? |
01:41.03 | Wormy_ | not Answering |
01:41.30 | External | Wormy_: BUT IT WAS E RITE |
01:41.31 | Hachiman | It's gotta be F) CoD: Ghosts confirmed for dog companion |
01:41.36 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:41.37 | External | ^ |
01:41.46 | External | I agree with Hachiman |
01:41.58 | Monet | The answer is... |
01:42.01 | Monet | A |
01:42.04 | Vincent20100 | Yay! |
01:42.07 | Hachiman | Aww man |
01:42.10 | Hachiman | Who would have thought |
01:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | flips the table; "FUCK ME!" |
01:42.20 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
01:42.24 | Vincent20100 | Fuck you :p |
01:42.35 | Monet | Vince gets a point |
01:42.35 | DrodoEmpire | That's what I asid |
01:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | :) |
01:42.49 | Vincent20100 | take his point and waves it in everybody's face ^^ |
01:43.45 | External | get tired, says "FUCK YOU ALL", pulls out a tommy gun, and shoots at DrodoEmpire and *especially* Vincent20100 |
01:43.53 | External | >:( |
01:44.12 | Vincent20100 | still hold firm grasp on his point :p |
01:44.14 | DrodoEmpire | takes off his kevlar vest, and yells "AHA!" |
01:44.26 | External | is outsmarted |
01:44.43 | External | shoots DrodoEmpire one more time as he is exposed |
01:44.51 | External | "Tag, you're it!" |
01:45.19 | Monet | 7) Which of the Corrutpus Dark Five laid waste to the Milky Way? A) Laidar B) Eleilord C) Okastana D) Gobongogon E) Kolossus |
01:45.26 | DrodoEmpire | collapses, cursing under his breath |
01:45.37 | Monet | Eleielord, sorry |
01:45.38 | External | I would say E, but Kolossus is not a Corruptus |
01:45.47 | External | I odn't think so anyways |
01:46.04 | DrodoEmpire | F) Mussolini |
01:46.10 | Vincent20100 | A? |
01:46.20 | External | E |
01:46.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hitler |
01:46.28 | External | Dark "five" |
01:46.39 | DrodoEmpire | Chingghis Khan |
01:46.42 | External | G) Osama Bin Laden |
01:46.50 | Monet | Yes |
01:46.56 | External | YUS |
01:46.58 | Monet | Osama Bin Laden is a corruptus demon |
01:47.07 | DrodoEmpire | Dark EIGHT, Monet |
01:47.16 | DrodoEmpire | Check your facts |
01:47.22 | Monet | But no the real answer is A: Laidar. |
01:47.30 | DrodoEmpire | So picky. |
01:47.49 | External | Wait, but what about Kolossus? (Who I am not even sure is a Corruptus) |
01:48.04 | Hachiman | He "was" a Corruptus |
01:48.05 | Monet | He was one of the original Dark Five |
01:48.49 | Monet | Vince gets a point |
01:49.20 | External | DON'T... |
01:49.26 | Vincent20100 | BAM! |
01:49.30 | External | FUK |
01:49.43 | Vincent20100 | get his pants down and put his ass on the face of Drodo and External! |
01:49.51 | Vincent20100 | »Eat it! |
01:49.58 | DrodoEmpire | turns away, confused. |
01:50.02 | DrodoEmpire | Ahem. |
01:50.11 | DrodoEmpire | No. |
01:50.47 | OluapPlayer | Kolossus is a Corruptus demon, but his target was Ottzello and not the Milky Way |
01:51.09 | External | takes out a gun, and shoots Vincent 12 times in the head |
01:51.17 | External | take dat ya stupid vincent |
01:51.24 | External | >::( |
01:51.34 | Monet | Valkyrie time! |
01:52.56 | Monet | He's doing much better than when I tried it |
01:53.30 | Monet | I had no clue where it was going for half of the match. |
01:54.51 | DrodoEmpire | checks to see if External has a license for all of these guns |
01:55.12 | External | backs slowly away and pulls out another gun, and duel wields with another |
01:55.17 | External | >:) |
01:55.25 | External | Magic satchel. |
01:55.29 | DrodoEmpire | I guess not. |
01:55.47 | Hachiman | >dual wield |
01:55.53 | Hachiman | Good luck shooting ANYTHING |
01:55.57 | External | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_satchel |
01:56.01 | Hachiman | And not breaking your wrists |
01:56.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: YES. |
01:56.12 | Monet | Question 8: A particular military engagement between the Drakodominatus Tyranny and DCP resulted in what? A) Everyone turning into cheese B) The destruction of five minor empries at once C) A rift in the fabric of hyperspace D) The aftermath of the LEZIAPETSSHIT E) Medusa throwing up i nsadness |
01:56.13 | External | Just shoot in random directions. I have to hit something. |
01:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | You hold one pistol, firmly, with two hands. |
01:56.31 | DrodoEmpire | Nope. You'd be surprised. |
01:56.41 | Vincent20100 | Monet: LEZIAPETSSHIT... |
01:56.43 | DrodoEmpire | Shooting guns is a tough business. *Especially* pistols. XD |
01:56.44 | Vincent20100 | -_- |
01:56.45 | Hachiman | Guns are surprisingly difficult to handle |
01:56.47 | External | Damn. Outsmarted. |
01:56.56 | External | D |
01:56.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: oh yeah |
01:56.59 | External | NO A |
01:56.59 | Vincent20100 | C? |
01:57.04 | Monet | Vincent20100: A genuine Tyranny superwepaon |
01:57.27 | DrodoEmpire | I've only really handled pretty small guns, but aiming down a six-shooter (or any pistol) is pretty difficult. |
01:57.50 | External | Ultimate weapon of destruction. The vehicle it's mounted on (The Tiamat) is fairly terrible though. |
01:58.08 | External | A tiny, 22 pistol then |
01:58.08 | DrodoEmpire | The sights don't just *line up* as with a long-gun. :p Takes a steady hand |
01:58.36 | DrodoEmpire | Principle is the same... :p |
01:59.07 | Monet | ION time |
01:59.59 | DrodoEmpire | Assuming you're even right/ |
02:00.43 | Monet | The answer is... |
02:00.48 | Monet | C |
02:00.54 | Monet | Point to Vincent |
02:01.11 | External | Vincent20100: Imagine...."WE'LL BLOW YOU UP WITH OUR LEZIASPETSSHIT! DON'T MAKE US DO IT!" |
02:01.33 | Monet | And that is the end of the round |
02:01.59 | External | I still win. |
02:02.01 | Hachiman | A round on me lad |
02:02.20 | Hachiman | lads even |
02:03.32 | Monet | Tallying the scores |
02:03.45 | Monet | VInce and external tie with 4 points |
02:03.55 | External | >:) |
02:04.01 | DrodoEmpire | I win, of course |
02:04.12 | Monet | Drodo: You only got two points |
02:04.17 | External | gets all up in Vincent20100s face and slaps him repeatedly |
02:04.22 | Monet | So we have a tiebreaker |
02:05.02 | DrodoEmpire | Apparently you missed my brilliant answers elsewhere |
02:05.42 | External | Nice try.. |
02:06.03 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes it was considering I won |
02:06.07 | DrodoEmpire | Quite a nice try really |
02:06.41 | External | This would be a nice music for the machine apocalypse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OTsAUXrEBI&list=PLD5994077BEB484D9 |
02:06.48 | External | Background music anyways |
02:06.51 | Monet | VIncent20100 External The tiebreaker question is thus: Laurenne Maxime lost her life to what? A) Rocks B) A missile C) angry baguette-wielding protestors D) Coalition supersoldiers E) A transporter malfunction |
02:07.19 | External | Hmm.... |
02:07.19 | DrodoEmpire | C. |
02:07.59 | External | B or E |
02:08.05 | External | Roll a dice. |
02:08.09 | Hachiman | Dying to a transporter malfunction must be horrifying |
02:08.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:08.31 | External | B |
02:08.35 | DrodoEmpire | Depends on the nature of the malfunction what the victim sense I guess |
02:08.36 | Wormy_ | C |
02:08.44 | DrodoEmpire | *senses |
02:08.53 | External | D |
02:09.04 | Monet | External: Pick one |
02:09.05 | Wormy_ | They used the baguette to capture her then put her on the gullotine |
02:09.06 | DrodoEmpire | If you teleport into a wall, then... Yeah that'd be horrific, and probably painful |
02:09.16 | External | D |
02:09.22 | External | *Probably* |
02:09.45 | Hachiman | Imagine getting teleported inside-out |
02:09.46 | External | I believe your insides would be mixed with the wall, as well as (maybe) tearing you in half |
02:09.58 | Vincent20100 | Back! |
02:10.02 | Vincent20100 | Monet give me a sec |
02:10.06 | Vincent20100 | I was watching tv |
02:10.13 | Vincent20100 | What's the question? |
02:10.33 | Monet | [03:06] <Monet> VIncent20100 External The tiebreaker question is thus: Laurenne Maxime lost her life to what? A) Rocks B) A missile C) angry baguette-wielding protestors D) Coalition supersoldiers E) A transporter malfunction |
02:10.34 | Vincent20100 | C, by a missile |
02:10.34 | Wormy_ | the worst transporter malfunction would be complete mass to energy conversion |
02:10.36 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Yeah... |
02:10.49 | Monet | VIncent20100: Missile is B |
02:10.53 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be disgusting |
02:10.55 | External | B |
02:10.58 | External | D |
02:11.00 | External | ;-; |
02:11.13 | External | D |
02:11.17 | External | I choose D |
02:11.22 | Monet | The answer is B. She died when a missile fro mthe surface accidentally collided with her shuttle. |
02:11.23 | External | Final answer |
02:11.27 | External | FUUUUUUUU |
02:11.29 | Vincent20100 | Missile B |
02:11.30 | DrodoEmpire | And honestly teleportation raises too many moral questions; And I feel that the new copy of you elsewhere would not have you... I dunno, your consciousness. |
02:11.52 | Wormy_ | I would have agreed with you once but now I'm no so sure |
02:11.55 | Monet | Vincent is the winner of the round |
02:12.01 | Vincent20100 | I don't like teleportation. It kinda break tge point of ships |
02:12.04 | Vincent20100 | YAY! |
02:12.08 | DrodoEmpire | Not actually |
02:12.17 | External | Hold on... |
02:12.18 | DrodoEmpire | Its electrically taxing and have distance limits |
02:12.38 | External | "With DCP troops within striking distance of French territory, Maxime attempted to flee the capital, only to be accidentally shot down by elements of the Karone National Guard which were under command of the Parliamentarians." |
02:12.48 | External | Charles_Murray: EXPLAIN THIS MADNESS |
02:12.49 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
02:12.51 | DrodoEmpire | No |
02:12.59 | DrodoEmpire | That isn't the explanation |
02:13.06 | Wormy_ | The thing I don't get about teleportation in sci-fi - its the ultimate weapon on an unshielded ship |
02:13.16 | DrodoEmpire | Like it'd be *you*, externally, they'd behave like you, and think like you and look like you, but I still don't know if *you*, your consciousness, would be inside |
02:13.21 | External | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime |
02:13.40 | Monet | Everyone pick three letters |
02:13.40 | DrodoEmpire | And it'd be just a very good impersonator, and not... Its hard to say |
02:13.56 | External | I still win. |
02:14.13 | External | What is the difference between Vincent201000 and Comrade_Vinny? |
02:14.17 | External | ABCD |
02:14.18 | DrodoEmpire | You get what I mean, I think |
02:14.19 | External | *ABC |
02:14.31 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire:I'll state the reason why I think that conclusion is either wrong. Or irrelevent. |
02:14.44 | DrodoEmpire | Alright/ |
02:14.56 | DrodoEmpire | I'm utterly uncertain myself so I'd like to hear your opinion |
02:14.59 | Wormy_ | Thats not to argue btw, I just have a different perspective now on determinism |
02:15.09 | Hachiman | GAY |
02:15.15 | DrodoEmpire | KYS |
02:15.17 | External | Brb |
02:15.18 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
02:15.25 | Comrade_Vinny | Monet: KGB |
02:15.30 | DrodoEmpire | KKK |
02:15.55 | Comrade_Vinny | External Comrade_Vinny is when I'm doing commies' stuff :P |
02:16.42 | External | o |
02:16.46 | Hachiman | Aye KK |
02:16.48 | Monet | The next topic is therefore.... |
02:16.50 | Hachiman | KKK even] |
02:16.53 | Monet | The ANdromeda War |
02:17.04 | Wormy_ | If the copy was an exact physical copy, down to the last patterns in the brain, I would say that it doesn't what time sits between the teleportation. The transferred copy perhaps is you by any definition. This is not so weird when you picture time rather than a now that moves, to a discrete collection of nows all coexisting. Most of modern physics does away with the flow of time |
02:17.41 | DrodoEmpire | Huh... |
02:18.12 | Wormy_ | Indeed it calls into question whether every now we can define is either a copy, or whether saying that is isn't really relevant |
02:18.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... Still |
02:18.30 | External | What would you rather do, spend a month facing your worst phobias, or send an hour with a Stalin-era KGB interrogator? |
02:18.34 | Wormy_ | I don't think the copy has to be exact either... Given that we change a little in life. |
02:19.01 | Wormy_ | Perhaps there is a phase space of definable "me's" |
02:19.13 | Wormy_ | rather than a point |
02:19.14 | Comrade_Vinny | Probably the KGB dude. |
02:19.21 | DrodoEmpire | But I dunno... Its hard to describe, but I feel it still wouldn't be you as in your consciousness. Whose to say your "soul" terminates, and a different consciousness, similar but not the same, takes over the teleported "copy"? |
02:19.49 | DrodoEmpire | So "you" have died, but an exact copy takes over while your consciousness... Floats in oblivion, or goes to an afterlife of some sort |
02:19.53 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
02:20.17 | Wormy_ | Your "soul" is an abstraction. Now I am a little biased by physicalism / realism and platonism, but perhaps your abstrat "I" is embedded by a certain set of of physical patterns |
02:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | I guess we'd have to know what happens after death in order to really formulate what happens in the event of teleportation |
02:20.47 | External | What are you talking about? |
02:21.05 | DrodoEmpire | I'm really not sure. I'm a very scientific person, and a staunch atheist. But I can't dismiss the concept of consciousness, or a so-called "soul" entirely. |
02:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not a philosopher so maybe I cannoy say |
02:21.23 | DrodoEmpire | *cannot |
02:21.49 | DrodoEmpire | Anyhow |
02:21.54 | DrodoEmpire | I do hope your right |
02:21.54 | Wormy_ | I'm thinking about this from the role of time in physics |
02:22.18 | Wormy_ | Here I'll show you a link that describes it better than I ever could |
02:22.25 | DrodoEmpire | I'd rather not be instantly killed when I have to use a teleporter, and let a "computer player" of sorts live the rest of my life. XD |
02:22.31 | Wormy_ | http://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/wp-content/DiscreteAndContinuous.html |
02:22.45 | DrodoEmpire | Anyhow |
02:22.47 | Wormy_ | And he's a genuine physicist |
02:22.53 | DrodoEmpire | Worst phobias or interrogator |
02:22.55 | DrodoEmpire | Depends |
02:23.21 | DrodoEmpire | What happens after the interrogation? Why am I being interrogated? Is there a risk of punishment afterwards? |
02:23.47 | DrodoEmpire | Or is he just using the textbook techniques because I wanted to know what its like? :p |
02:23.58 | External | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T270UC0WPBU&list=PLD5994077BEB484D9&index=5 "Level Up!" |
02:23.58 | DrodoEmpire | (Which I don't by the way) |
02:24.23 | Comrade_Vinny | DrodoEmpire: I prefer the drowning simulation. |
02:24.26 | External | I can't explain. |
02:25.10 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno what exactly my fears and phobias are, but I'm sure a whole month of them would either drive me mad or make me literally fearless. :p |
02:25.46 | DrodoEmpire | Not a bet I'm taking. Hour with KGB dude seems like it'dbe mighty unpleasant but last a lot shorter of a time |
02:27.03 | Comrade_Vinny | What if I'm a KGB undercover agent? |
02:27.04 | Wormy_ | I'll conclude my view in summary: But essentially if time is either discrete (chunky) or continuous, the teleporter argument has frightening implicastions for both imo. Either its irrelevant, i.e. doesn't really matter (and so teleportation copying doesn't matter), or that it is true, but every "now" we experience is a a different version of us or our "soul", if you will |
02:27.25 | DrodoEmpire | :L |
02:27.28 | Monet | COmrade_VInny: The KGB has been dead for at most 25 years |
02:27.51 | DrodoEmpire | Right... |
02:27.58 | Comrade_Vinny | That's what they want you to think! |
02:28.02 | DrodoEmpire | I'll take a shuttle. :p |
02:28.28 | Wormy_ | I think I would still take the shuttle |
02:29.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the risk just seems stupid-big for such a trivial convienience. |
02:29.10 | Wormy_ | Of course, if the teleporter was actually a "transport beam", then we are just sent through a man size wormhole in tact |
02:29.23 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:29.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'd like that. XD |
02:29.42 | Wormy_ | I think Sporewikian teleporters really work like that |
02:29.49 | Monet | Comrade_Vinny_: Well Russia is a federation now. Not a sovereign state |
02:30.13 | DrodoEmpire | Its like every time you drive a car you have a 50/50 chance of the dashboard exploding and killing you. :p |
02:30.18 | Wormy_ | Quantum mechanics and indeed the time it would take to reconstitute youy and simulate you accurately would take longer than the universe's age |
02:30.19 | DrodoEmpire | (for a teleporter) |
02:30.29 | Monet | So "Committee for State Security" is sliiightly iaccurate |
02:30.51 | Wormy_ | Also Star Trekkian teleporters would make a weapon that is far too easy lol |
02:31.06 | Wormy_ | Drop shields > beam crew out into space |
02:31.18 | Wormy_ | Or beam the engines out or something |
02:31.29 | DrodoEmpire | Well the thing is that it takes time to beam a large number of people |
02:31.32 | Monet | Haven't there been characters assassinated using malfunctioning teleporters? |
02:31.42 | DrodoEmpire | And transporters are *notoriously* finicky and unreliable in ST |
02:31.44 | Monet | In Star Trek |
02:32.07 | Wormy_ | Thats to cover up the plot holes they create |
02:32.13 | Wormy_ | anyway, goodnight |
02:32.15 | DrodoEmpire | If the winds aren't blowing right, then they're strategically and tactically useless. |
02:32.18 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
02:32.30 | DrodoEmpire | Suspension of Disbelief, and goodnight. |
02:32.40 | Monet | Goodnight |
02:33.11 | Monet | That R9 Nano is indeed small |
02:33.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
02:33.27 | Monet | This is Moore's law i neffect |
02:33.31 | Monet | Drodo: The Stream |
02:33.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
02:35.57 | Monet | ...Dual cards |
02:36.14 | Monet | That's some high fidelity |
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02:36.33 | External | This is not the best video for children: https://youtu.be/r6PIC46uxx0 |
02:39.17 | DrodoEmpire | test |
02:46.55 | Monet | This quiz was fun |
02:47.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
02:47.30 | Monet | We should try it again later |
03:02.20 | External | Gonna play Prototype |
03:02.23 | External | bai |
03:24.54 | Monet | Wow |
03:25.02 | Monet | Moderatiors have actually come down on the chat |
03:25.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
03:25.32 | Monet | Yeah its hard to see but some people tried asking for the spam to stop |
03:25.37 | Monet | SOme seem to be mocking the mthough |
03:29.27 | Monet | Its like Oluap said |
03:29.31 | Monet | Twitch chat is cancer |
03:29.56 | Monet | Its all idiots wanting to say something funny |
03:31.04 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
03:31.07 | DrodoEmpire | Basically |
03:32.20 | Monet | I feel sorry for anyone with moderator status o nthere |
03:33.07 | Monet | Its like trying ot hold back a tsunami of poo with just your hands. |
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10:18.29 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:21.39 | Cyrannian | Hey there |
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10:30.09 | Wormy_ | hi |
10:30.13 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:44.18 | Liquid_Ink | If Earth was (or is, it's still pretty obscure) supposedly abandoned in the sporewikiverse, how do the space Muslims (and there are space muslims) do their pilgramige to Mecca? |
10:44.52 | Wormy_ | Space Mecca |
10:44.59 | Ghelae | It's not completely abandoned; I'm sure holy sites are still maintained. |
10:45.56 | Ghelae | One problem might be if the number of Muslims has increased significantly between 2015 and 2800... you might have trillions wanting to visit Mecca every year. |
10:46.08 | Wormy_ | Earth now has been recolonised after the Thal and TDP invasion |
10:46.38 | Wormy_ | Though an artificial Ice Age has covered the planet |
10:47.05 | Cyrannian | "Space Mecca" I lol'd |
10:48.11 | Wormy_ | An alternative is that sites of interest were lifted from the Earth, rock and all. Whether that is good enough to lift off a holy value is in the minds of the spiritual |
10:48.55 | Ghelae | It would be even worse for the Muslims of Orion's Arm: I don't think they could even visit Earth (especially ones tens of thousands of light years away from Earth and hundreds from the nearest wormhole with no other FTL, although they can at least live for an extremely long time), and even if they could I Mecca wouldn't still be there. |
10:49.41 | Wormy_ | I thought a snall group of pilgrims were allowed to walk on Earth in a controlled tour from the AI goddess |
10:50.10 | Wormy_ | But yes the Nanoplague destroyed much of its surface |
10:51.31 | Ghelae | Just reading up, yes, it looks like they can visit that part of the Earth, which was preserved. |
10:53.58 | Ghelae | But it looks like they also consider Gaia to be satanic, so had Mecca not been available that could well have influenced their religion in such a way to justify it. No such events happened in the SporeWikiverse that could have had such an impact, not least with only a few hundred years rather than nearly ten thousand having passed. |
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10:55.20 | Wormy_ | Yay, a reference to Wales in the flag http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/54d29022c24b1 |
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11:15.40 | Wormy_ | Johnathan Frakes does this as well http://imgur.com/gallery/y01fk |
11:17.20 | Liquid_Ink | https://33.media.tumblr.com/a78748b012391558913bd8133628a373/tumblr_npwjqur6B91qj6sk2o1_500.gif He needs to pull that face in order to aim properly. |
11:20.06 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhAiKTIWTWg |
11:20.07 | Wormy_ | lol |
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11:42.27 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
11:42.27 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
11:42.35 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
11:42.36 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
11:42.50 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Species#Inner_Rim - Finished the Inner Rim |
11:44.06 | OluapPlayer | I noticed |
11:45.07 | OluapPlayer | waptor doin gud |
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11:51.32 | Wormy_ | hi |
11:52.10 | Monet | Hi |
11:53.02 | Monet | Wormy_: The cutscenes for Endless Legend weren't kidding about Auriga dying. |
11:53.39 | Wormy_ | interesting |
11:53.46 | Monet | Basically every few turns or so the game enters a winter period for a few turns that severely hits all material production. |
11:54.11 | Monet | As a game progresses, the winter period hits sooner and lasts longer. |
11:55.19 | Monet | Eventually the world is plunged into eternal winter. |
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12:06.07 | Wormy_ | I know it has sesimnic disturbances as well |
12:06.31 | Wormy_ | Monet: Remember that bug that turned the Minecraft server into an ice age? |
12:07.01 | Monet | I remember |
12:07.24 | Monet | I remember we tried many things to clear the ice that had surrounded the port of my city |
12:11.31 | Monet | ALso the game's beginning coincides with several strange events |
12:12.07 | Monet | The Drakken for instance began giving birth to the wingless Drakkenlings |
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12:15.45 | Jepardi | Hi |
12:15.48 | Monet | Hi |
12:29.01 | Wormy_ | I might have to get Endless Legand |
12:30.22 | Monet | Its an intriguing game |
12:30.45 | Monet | It presents one facet of empire building that I haven't seen elsewhere: Natives and auxillaries |
12:31.34 | Monet | You can pacify native settlements in each region, and can assimilate them to use their units in your armies. |
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12:33.55 | Wormy_ | Thats clever |
12:34.06 | Monet | Civilisation V has a city state system but its nowhere near this extensive |
12:34.31 | Wormy_ | its also historical |
12:35.00 | Wormy_ | But can the settlements rebel, like in the fall of Western Rome? |
12:35.16 | Monet | Not that i've seen. |
12:35.36 | Monet | Once you pacify them - either diplomatically or by force - they stay that way |
12:36.59 | Monet | diplomatic pacification involves a mission, military pacification involves attacking the village and rebuilding it. |
12:41.01 | Monet | A shame that when you conquer an enemy empire's city it becomes like yours. |
12:41.14 | Wormy_ | yeah |
12:42.03 | Monet | Could have been interesting to have Forgotten Lords soldiers (I do like them somewhat) marching alongside Argent Mage auxillaries |
12:42.17 | Wormy_ | It could make a good game though couldn't it? Rallying barbarians to your cause, but having to keep them happy |
12:43.06 | Monet | Its an interesting idea yeah |
12:43.30 | Monet | Buidling an emprei i nreall life is horrendously difficult |
12:45.02 | Monet | Britain was able to control India because it established a loyal viceroyalty to do all the management for it. |
12:45.09 | Wormy_ | Empires just outside DCP territories often get bullied to comply |
12:45.44 | Wormy_ | Some perhaps forced to send forces lol |
12:46.29 | Monet | So those minor empires that aren't part of the DCP still get bullied into submission? |
12:46.50 | Wormy_ | If you are a tiny Tier 4 empire within light years of their space, you are better off doing what they want |
12:47.01 | Wormy_ | Well remember what happened the Empire of Holloway |
12:47.23 | Monet | Sort-of |
12:47.54 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Empire_of_Halloway |
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12:49.04 | Monet | So I take it the Empire refused to comply. |
12:49.06 | Monet | Hi |
12:49.18 | Vincent20100 | Hey! |
12:49.22 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets#Transmission_from_the_EoH |
12:50.05 | Wormy_ | The DCP didn't like being called pranksters |
12:51.25 | Monet | âHow can we be sure these are your territories? The DCP could have sent a star-map showing it was historically their space. |
12:51.36 | Wormy_ | They bombed every capital city instead |
12:51.47 | Wormy_ | as punishment |
12:52.24 | Ghelae | If they sent a star map the EoH may have simply declared it to be fake. |
12:52.58 | Wormy_ | lol |
12:53.21 | Wormy_ | I think the DCP had probably had decades of annoyance |
12:54.51 | Wormy_ | They could have kindly scooped up the colony but that just isn't their way |
12:55.20 | Wormy_ | The DCP needed to show the universe it was back |
12:55.46 | Monet | It was certainly an efective display |
12:55.50 | Monet | An intriguing one two |
12:56.41 | Monet | They come back from saving the universe and the first thing they do is harass a rising power using widespread orbital bombardment. |
12:58.04 | Wormy_ | I suppose they are a bit schizophrenic like that. |
12:58.37 | Monet | Not really |
12:59.28 | Monet | Such activity is fairly common |
13:00.05 | Wormy_ | The thing about the DCP is that it has a nature of its own, it can be erratic because its so large |
13:00.35 | Wormy_ | its now a runaway train |
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13:00.40 | Jepardi | Hi |
13:00.44 | Wormy_ | ironic really |
13:00.47 | Wormy_ | hi |
13:02.12 | Monet | During the Cold War the United States had a habit of providing aid money to countries that wanted ot be capitalist (like Japan) but often used subversive tactics (such as backing the US-friendly autarch of Iran) to maintain itself as top dog |
13:03.12 | Wormy_ | indeed |
13:03.46 | Wormy_ | I think the world is a blooming runaway train |
13:04.05 | Monet | When the USSR tried to annex Afghanistan, the United States provided money and weapons to the emergent Taliban. |
13:04.16 | Wormy_ | There's no secret society at the top. They all failed |
13:04.59 | OluapPlayer | That's what they want you to believe |
13:05.01 | OluapPlayer | dun dun dun |
13:05.33 | Wormy_ | Its taking them a long time to exterminate 90% of the population |
13:05.54 | Monet | People rationalise secret societies ot explain why the world is so divided and so hellish. |
13:06.20 | Monet | Truth is it always has been. We didn't need some shadowy subversive power to do that. |
13:07.15 | Wormy_ | Countries and economies have tried to create order and sold us dreams of order, but its a giant collective myth |
13:10.15 | Monet | The rich in America tried to take advantage of the emerging dreams of Capitalism in Asia. But the result was one of history's great market collapses. |
13:14.14 | Monet | A group that really was fully knowledgeable of the economic systems of the world would surely have known that the faster an economic bubble expands, the more devestating the effects hwen it bursts. |
13:14.45 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: Did you see this? The appearance of Spinosaurus based on new fossil evidence http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/09/12/science/12dino-1/12dino-1-articleLarge.jpg |
13:15.01 | OluapPlayer | I did |
13:15.19 | OluapPlayer | That's using a mash-up of various Spinosaurid species, it's not a single species |
13:15.25 | OluapPlayer | Therefore it's invalid |
13:15.51 | Ghelae | I remember there being a discussion about it on here a few weeks ago. Somebody - I can't remember who - came online and was rather unhappy about it. |
13:16.13 | OluapPlayer | They got some bones from smaller species, put them in and started "assuming" Spinosaurus was like that |
13:16.14 | Wormy_ | still looks badarse to me |
13:18.16 | OluapPlayer | It would look cool were it not for the manlet legs |
13:18.20 | Liquid_Ink | I was under the impression quadrapedal Spinosaurus had fallen out of shasion. |
13:18.24 | Liquid_Ink | *fashion |
13:18.47 | Cyrannian | It has been accepted by most palaeontologists as valid though and the previous version was based on far less evidence, simply superimposing some skull and fin fragments on the classic theropod posture |
13:19.03 | OluapPlayer | They're really fucking dumb then |
13:19.32 | OluapPlayer | You could do the same with say, get some bear bones from various races, put them together and claim prehistoric bears looked like that based on assumptions |
13:20.09 | Monet | If we had DNA evidence palaeontology would be a lot easier. |
13:20.36 | OluapPlayer | This is not valid until they find actual Spinosaurus aegyptiacus bones of that size |
13:21.06 | Monet | Unfortunately the fossilisation process tends to destroy DNA. |
13:21.59 | Wormy_ | The new Spinosaurus aegyptiacus however, appears to shed light on the possibility it was evolving to become a marine dinosaur, much like how Whales evolved. |
13:22.18 | Wormy_ | unfortunately its journey was cut short |
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13:23.46 | Monet | We can get the genomes of mammoths, neanderthals and sabre-tooth cats because the bones we find are still bones. And in the case of mammoths and sabretooths we have frozen specimen |
13:24.35 | Monet | IIRC uncovered dinosaur bones are usually closer in composition to rock than actual bone. |
13:24.42 | Wormy_ | bbl |
13:25.08 | Ghelae | They are rock. That's what fossilisation is. Although it does seem that some traces of soft tissue have been discovered inside fossils. |
13:25.53 | Ghelae | Although I don't think having S. aegypticus DNA would make it particularly easier to determine its leg size. |
13:26.30 | Monet | It took decades to map the human genome and we're still years away fro mknowing what every known gene does. |
13:26.37 | Ghelae | aegyptiacus* |
13:26.46 | Cyrannian | The new reconstruction is a hypothesis, yes and we won't know for certain until we find a complete skeleton. Though since part of the leg bone was discovered, the reconstruction is more accurate than previous depictions of it |
13:28.04 | OluapPlayer | my spino is at least one t-rex large, thx |
13:28.08 | Cyrannian | http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/files/2014/09/spinosaurus-reconstruction.jpg - The bones coloured red are the ones that were found recently while I assume the other ones are from earlier samples or guesses based on other species |
13:28.27 | Monet | A complete skeleto nis always idea |
13:28.31 | Monet | ideal |
13:29.03 | OluapPlayer | That thing looks incredibly clumsy |
13:29.12 | OluapPlayer | Like it would waddle from side to side while walking |
13:29.13 | Monet | But like everything its also the most elusive as it requires every one of hundreds of bones to fossilise correctly. |
13:30.12 | Cyrannian | It was mostly aquatic so it probably didn't spend too much time on land |
13:30.15 | Ghelae | Oluap: You mean like penguins and seals and other aquatic predators? |
13:30.42 | Ghelae | Although penguins are of course bipedal. |
13:30.59 | Cyrannian | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80_-_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F.jpg - this is a bit too weird doe |
13:31.01 | OluapPlayer | I mean the back sail looks too big in comparison so it would fall over |
13:31.19 | OluapPlayer | Spinosaurus chicken edition |
13:31.47 | Monet | Actually I think those sails were rather light in compariso nto the rest of the body. |
13:31.56 | OluapPlayer | To me that mish-mash skeleton looks like a stretched-up dimetrodon and this is as bad as turning Pluto into a dwarf planet |
13:32.03 | Monet | Just a guess though - no muscle, little fatty tissue |
13:33.35 | Monet | Palaeontology is probably one of the most divided biological fields in the world. |
13:34.41 | Monet | Its just so difficult to know everything for sure. That's why the look of dinosaurs has changed so drastically in the past 25 years alone |
13:34.42 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--HshDJ0Zj--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/813266302148042132.jpg - T. rex might have been this totz fab, so it isn't just the Spinosaur |
13:35.18 | OluapPlayer | He's wearing his winter coat |
13:35.54 | OluapPlayer | If you're going to put feathers on a T-rex you should put feathers everywhere and not in just one spot |
13:36.10 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
13:36.22 | Monet | THat woman from Jurassic World does have a point - Imagine trying to piece together what a modern Euroepan man looks like by looking at the bones of corpses from Europe, Central America, China and Central Africa. |
13:36.45 | Monet | All without any way of tying them genetically. |
13:37.46 | Monet | The huma ngenome project caused a paradigm shift in the world of taxonomy -s species we thought were related were in fact not and species we didn't think were related turned out to be drastically similar. |
13:38.08 | OluapPlayer | Tyrannosaurus-BOK |
13:38.21 | Monet | Looks half owl to me |
13:38.38 | OluapPlayer | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B946eR7CcAMM7p_.jpg the tyrant king of lizards |
13:39.50 | Ghelae | Some larger theropods have had preserved skin impressions that include scales, so we know they weren't covered completey in feathers if at all. |
13:40.03 | Cyrannian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrannosaurus#Skin_and_feathers - According to this, they probably had both scales and feathers |
13:40.08 | Cyrannian | Ninja'd |
13:41.18 | Ghelae | So, either fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view, they didn't look like gigantic owls or sparrows. |
13:42.46 | Monet | This does lend credance to the idea that dinosaurs are more closely related ot most birds tha nreptiles like alligators or monitor lizards. |
13:43.26 | OluapPlayer | Well, birds are just evolved theropod dinosaurus |
13:43.30 | OluapPlayer | *dinosaurs even |
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14:21.09 | Wormy_away | Yes they are |
14:21.33 | Wormy_away | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/birds_and_dinosaurs.png |
14:25.46 | Cyrannian | Indeed, it's also interesting to note that crocodiles and alligators are more closely related to birds than other reptiles like lizards and snakes. |
14:58.41 | *** join/#sporewiki drom (~dpessimis@unaffiliated/drom) |
14:58.50 | drom | Hello |
14:59.46 | Cyrannian | Hai |
15:00.36 | Monet | Hello |
15:00.42 | Monet | http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an-italian-draft-of-pope-francis-environmental-paper-leaks--setting-off-scurry-to-google-translate/2015/06/15/89af0012-1379-11e5-9ddc-e3353542100c_story.html Good ol' Francis |
15:00.52 | drom | Today hasn't been much of new except I passed the age of majority. |
15:00.54 | Vincent20100 | HEy drom |
15:01.04 | Vincent20100 | I had something to ask you, but I can't remember what... |
15:01.57 | drom | Imperios: Dis is Japan http://i.imgur.com/fOi7HlF.jpg |
15:02.51 | Imperios | drom: We're going to need more missile launchers |
15:02.54 | Monet | I'd like to see Congress challenge Climate CHange now that even the Pope believes its largely the result of human activity. |
15:05.49 | Cyrannian | Happy birthday drom! |
15:06.11 | drom | Thanks! |
15:06.19 | Imperios | drom: http://bfolder.ru/_ph/14/970175517.jpg |
15:06.24 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/vS3Uj3l.webm |
15:06.24 | Imperios | And happy birthday yeah :3 |
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15:07.19 | drom | It means I've the right to go drunk now hur |
15:07.51 | Monet | drom: Is that a stingray? |
15:08.11 | drom | A black stingray yeah |
15:10.03 | drom | Kid ya not, black stingrays are pretty much the ocean's equialvent of dogs. |
15:11.59 | Wormy_ | Happy birthday |
15:12.13 | drom | Thanks! |
15:12.25 | Monet | Shame the comments section of that Washington Post article is full of deniers. |
15:12.38 | Wormy_ | Either get drunk, or feast. If you feast, it'll soak up the alcohol you may be forced by society to dtink |
15:13.02 | drom | Imperios: Polskie yoghurt http://i.imgur.com/Q8PvLCU.jpg |
15:13.06 | Wormy_ | For me it was fun but we are all different.jpg |
15:13.28 | Imperios | drom: Throw that fucking thing into outer space |
15:14.02 | drom | Imperios: incase you don't know what actually it is, it is vodka packed in yoghurt cups |
15:14.43 | Wormy_ | I remember showing my ID to a security man outside a pub on my 18th, then he said "you'll have to buy me on" lol |
15:15.59 | Wormy_ | bbl |
15:25.50 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTryU1fp-zw&index=5&list=FLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg Javina's theme song |
15:27.32 | OluapPlayer | hur |
15:30.08 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Rihanae_Gambit#Chapter_Four:_Wrath_of_the_Republic - c update |
15:30.28 | OluapPlayer | Cretacea - OH NO U DONT U LIL SHIT |
15:30.47 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/ePOBzbZ.png |
15:34.06 | Monet | God - *kills Matt Murdoch* there. Now I sue. Matt - But he didn't do anything wrong Satan - Haha |
15:52.44 | Vincent20100_ | drom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs |
15:53.59 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Seems like D'vul bit more than she could chew |
15:54.11 | Imperios | ...That sounded nasty |
15:54.15 | Cyrannian | D'Vul - bich im a man |
15:55.17 | Imperios | ...Oh wait yes |
15:55.26 | Imperios | Still nasty hur |
15:56.18 | Imperios | I confused him with Tai'rex |
15:56.56 | Cyrannian | Poor Tai'Rex, I might bust her out of New Republic custody at some point |
16:05.23 | OluapPlayer | straight into a grave yus |
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16:25.51 | dino82_ | hello al |
16:25.52 | dino82_ | l |
16:26.18 | drom | hai |
16:26.59 | Monet | Hello |
16:28.18 | dino82_ | :D |
16:28.53 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:31.33 | Vincent20100_ | Yop! |
16:31.46 | Imperios | Monet: Did it ever happen to you that you spent weeks studying some subject and end up nearly failing because of some minor mistake, and then get an A from another teacher for a subject that you barely prepared? |
16:32.28 | Monet | Imperios: Can't entirely recall really. |
16:33.29 | Cyrannian | Hello dino! |
16:33.43 | OluapPlayer | Hey dino |
16:34.14 | drom | Imperios: Happened to me, save for the failing part. |
16:35.59 | Monet | Russian exams sound harsh if a minor mistake nearly jeapordised your ability to pass. |
16:39.22 | Vincent20100_ | Just write "Putin approuves of this answer" in the answer section and you will be fine. |
16:39.23 | Imperios | Well it didn't jeopardise it |
16:39.35 | Imperios | I just got a fairly low score |
16:39.36 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian dino82_: Can we continue our story? |
16:39.53 | Imperios | Vincent20100_: Won't work, Russian universities are liberal as fuck |
16:40.19 | Imperios | Writing "Putin *dis*approves of this answer" would be a better idea |
16:40.27 | Vincent20100_ | Then tell Putin that the teachers are Ukrainian rebels |
16:40.44 | Vincent20100_ | You should get your new teacher by the week. |
16:42.14 | Monet | Knowing universities, such a lecturer is likely to be questionned rather than immediately fired. Or am I wrong? |
16:42.40 | Monet | In Europe at least, the idea of firing osmeone on the spot is frowned upon. |
16:42.47 | Imperios | You say it as if Putin has that power over universities |
16:42.55 | dino82_ | @Oluap: I thinkI can sure |
16:43.11 | Imperios | Some student put Stalin's photo on a V-Day wall newspaper |
16:43.24 | Imperios | Said photo ended up violently torn apart and mutilated |
16:43.46 | Monet | And the student who put it up? |
16:44.20 | Vincent20100_ | Yah, but does he want to go through a full interogatory with nice KG...FSB guys... |
16:44.21 | Imperios | I don't know who designed the wall newspaper hur |
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16:47.22 | Imperios | Vincent20100_: You act like Koba is still alive hur |
16:47.31 | Imperios | I mean not that the FSB does not interrogate people |
16:50.24 | Imperios | But they do not interrogate anyone who talks shit of the government |
16:50.29 | Imperios | Otherwise our /pol/ would be empty |
16:53.27 | Vincent20100_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVsHHLa3yDg&feature=player_detailpage#t=37 |
16:53.32 | Imperios | https://2ch.hk/po/src/9340623/14345570129640.jpg Speaking of commies |
16:54.07 | Imperios | Vincent20100_: This video reminded me of one old Soviet joke |
16:54.39 | Vincent20100_ | These boots are made to walk? |
16:54.40 | Vincent20100_ | http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/138000/138719_communism_its_a_party.jpg |
16:56.36 | Imperios | A rich Arab wanted to marry his twelve beautiful daughters, so he called potential grooms and asked how many of them would they be able to satisfy. |
16:56.59 | Imperios | The German said "One.", so the Arab refused |
16:57.29 | Imperios | The Frenchman said "Four.", so he was refused as well. |
16:57.53 | Imperios | The Georgian said "Thirteen." The Arab raised his eyebrows and asked him to explain. |
16:58.11 | Imperios | "Well, you look kinda fresh too," the Georgian replied |
16:58.34 | Vincent20100_ | O_O |
17:01.12 | Imperios | (Stalin was, well, Georgian) |
17:01.49 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Tyandas - new burd character |
17:02.21 | OluapPlayer | BURD |
17:02.25 | Vincent20100_ | A friend of mine gave me his Enemy at the Gates disk yesterday |
17:02.31 | Imperios | Here's another one, about Ukrainians |
17:02.54 | OluapPlayer | Hell Oiseau are long-lived |
17:03.01 | OluapPlayer | Nearly a thousand years old |
17:03.28 | Imperios | An old Ukrainian returned from Spain to his family and tells them about what he saw there: |
17:05.02 | Imperios | "In Spain, I was on that festival called the Corrida. They set loose a big bull on the arena, while a guy stands before him and waves a red banner." |
17:05.02 | OluapPlayer | Titanpaaaaaaaaad |
17:05.05 | Imperios | "And what then?" |
17:05.29 | Imperios | "WELL WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF SOMEONE WAVED A *RED* BANNER IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE" |
17:06.23 | Monet | Bullfighters use more than red sheets irrc. |
17:06.30 | Monet | More colours I mean |
17:06.36 | Imperios | It was a joke about Communism hur |
17:06.40 | Monet | I know I know |
17:06.58 | Vincent20100_ | A Frenchman is arriving at the Montreal Airport. He takes a cab to visiti the city. While he passes in on the Pont Jacque Cartier he asked: |
17:07.11 | Vincent20100_ | French: What is that? How many years did it take to built? |
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17:07.26 | Vincent20100_ | Driver: I don't know, about 10 years. |
17:07.26 | Monet | Just saying that the I believe the famous red cape is reserved for the finale. |
17:07.35 | Monet | Hi |
17:07.35 | Hachiman | Hai |
17:07.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:07.42 | Imperios | Hi |
17:07.42 | Vincent20100_ | French: In France, we would have it built in 2 years. |
17:07.46 | OluapPlayer | ~kidnap Hachiman |
17:07.49 | infobot | ACTION drives up in a non-descript white van, jumps out, shoves Hachiman in the back, and drives off. |
17:07.55 | Hachiman | <3 |
17:08.02 | Vincent20100_ | The cab passes in front of the Casino and he say: |
17:08.19 | Vincent20100_ | French: What is that? How many time did it took to built it? |
17:08.32 | Monet | They hide a sword behind the red cape and cut the bull down as it runs past. The red cape disguising the blood splatter. |
17:08.33 | Vincent20100_ | Driver: I don't know, about 2 years. |
17:08.48 | Vincent20100_ | French: In France we would had it built in 2 months |
17:09.00 | Vincent20100_ | The cab passes in front of the Olympic Stadium |
17:09.06 | Monet | Oh dear... |
17:09.11 | Hachiman | Oh boy |
17:09.17 | Vincent20100_ | French: Ho! What is that? How many years did it took to build it? |
17:09.17 | OluapPlayer | dino82_: Join the titanpad again |
17:09.28 | Vincent20100_ | Driver: I don't know sir, it wasn't here this morning... |
17:10.03 | Monet | Prepare for cringe? |
17:11.05 | Imperios | An old Ukrainian is lying on his deathbed, surrounded by his relatives. |
17:11.22 | Imperios | He calls his son: "Sonny, call the commissar, I want to join the Communist Party!" "Why?" - the son asks - "Haven't we always hated communists?" |
17:11.47 | Imperios | "Exactly!" - the old Ukrainian says - "When I die, there will be one less communist in the world." |
17:11.54 | Hachiman | olol |
17:18.37 | Imperios | An ancient Egyptian pyramid has been unearthed, but archaeologists cannot find out what pharaoh was buried there. American and British scientists tried to study the mummy from the pyramid, but their efforts was fruitless. |
17:19.20 | Imperios | The Soviet Union sends three KGB officers, who then enter the pyramid. |
17:19.42 | Imperios | The officers return in a few hours, tired but happy. |
17:19.55 | Imperios | "Did you find out anything?" - the scientists ask. |
17:20.29 | Imperios | "Yes. That's Amenhotep XXIII." |
17:20.44 | Wormy_away | HAHAHAH |
17:20.49 | Imperios | "How did you find that out?" - the scientists ask in amazement. |
17:20.54 | Imperios | "He confessed himself." |
17:21.13 | Vincent20100_ | http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aWZyORn_700b_v2.jpg |
17:21.56 | Imperios | ...That's the variation of that joke yes |
17:24.17 | Imperios | "A man shouts on the Red Square: "Damn that moustached bastard for ruining our country?" An NKVD officer arrests him and brings him to Stalin. |
17:24.37 | Imperios | "Whom did you mean when you were saying this?" - Stalin asked. |
17:24.47 | Imperios | "Hitler, of course!" said the man. |
17:25.10 | Imperios | "Very well." Stalin replied. "And whom did *you* mean, officer?" |
17:27.12 | Monet | Imperios: Reminds me of a line from GTA V. There was this Nazi officer on this 50s cartoon guarding the gates to Vinewood. When he learns that a couple of people are trying to get in to look for COmmunists his response is "Commies? I hate those filthy Communists! They killed my father. In Stalingrad!" |
17:27.27 | Imperios | ...Hur |
17:27.46 | Monet | Bad taste but that's GTA |
17:28.49 | Imperios | "Young men and women are marching on an anti-religious communist demonstration, waving banners like "No to Christianity" or "Religion is the opiate of the masses". Among them is a much older man. |
17:29.32 | Imperios | One of the younger men asks him: "What caused you to disbelieve in Christ, sir?" |
17:29.54 | Imperios | "Well, I have always been against Christianity, may Allah damn them all!" |
17:30.15 | OluapPlayer | and then he exploded and everyone died |
17:31.20 | Imperios | hur |
17:37.56 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11230040_1595428364038976_3993448017086668675_n.jpg?oh=726b6cd6c6ab672cd7d92b3f68402209&oe=55FAE7B5 Why Tumblr sucks |
17:38.15 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11427235_1425684357454619_7093269393696363633_n.jpg?oh=95ba29a89226c3000a75df2c6b86c5b8&oe=55E7F8ED "Does this make me a bad mother?" |
17:39.27 | OluapPlayer | olol |
17:41.44 | Imperios | Hachiman: "FUCK ME" "I WILL KILL ME" |
17:43.02 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I think the joke originated before Muslims started exploding |
17:43.22 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11406826_927695340586469_3295728666392311912_n.jpg?oh=8007cf1f32aea14e7195116db7739c33&oe=55F2AF70 |
17:43.26 | OluapPlayer | dun care |
17:43.39 | Monet | They ony really started doing that via the Taliban didn't they? |
17:45.01 | Imperios | Well they used religion to rally people to war since... well... the 8th century, but yeah they only started to explode recently |
17:45.42 | Imperios | Funny thing is, the explosive belt was actually invented and popularised by Tamils in India |
17:45.45 | Imperios | Or Sri Lanka |
17:48.32 | Monet | Though "Jihad" = "Holy war as encouraged by the Quran" is probably another misconception, then again Christians misunderstanding Muslim culture is nothing new at all. |
17:49.26 | Imperios | Well |
17:49.33 | Monet | People are right that the Quran does mention Jihad, But the meaning is wrong |
17:49.35 | Imperios | Jihad IS a holy war as encouraged by quran |
17:49.40 | Imperios | It just has other meanings |
17:49.48 | Monet | Jihad means "struggle" |
17:49.50 | Imperios | Well yeah |
17:50.17 | Monet | Which could mean anything really. Life's hard and we suffer though it. |
17:50.37 | Monet | But what maters is that we prevail against whatever odds we get. |
17:50.48 | Hachiman | ALLAH ACKBAR |
17:51.00 | Imperios | In Islam it usually means either "self-perfection" - as in the struggle against personal flaws, "enforcement of law" - as in the struggle against the flaws of society |
17:51.05 | Imperios | Or, as Hachiman said |
17:51.09 | Imperios | ALLAHU AKBAR |
17:51.33 | Monet | The struggle for self-perfection and the enforcement of law. |
17:52.09 | Monet | We are not so different |
17:52.50 | Monet | Basically calling a Jihad a holy war is like considering self-improvement a form of holy war. Which does sound a little silly. |
17:53.08 | Imperios | Well Islam in its core *is* more militant due to its origins |
17:53.32 | Imperios | But who said Europe is not militant either hur |
17:53.51 | Monet | Switzerland - We're not. |
17:54.06 | Imperios | Switzerland has cool soldiers |
17:54.27 | Imperios | The main difference between the two religions in that Christianity formed as a secretive cult in a falling empire that mostly opposed the government |
17:54.33 | Monet | Actually Switzerland being nonviolent is kind of ironic |
17:54.43 | Imperios | While Islam was formed as the religious foundation of a *rising* empire |
17:54.58 | Hachiman | Thus Islam is cooler hur |
17:55.19 | Monet | I recall Switzerland set a world record a few years back for "most guns owned per capita" |
17:55.21 | Hachiman | I prefer Sikhism myself though |
17:55.22 | Imperios | Hachiman confirmed for Allahu Akbar |
17:56.06 | Imperios | Actually from what I've read Medieval Arab history is kinda similar to either that of early Romans or the Mongols |
17:56.34 | Monet | Back i nthe late 2000s, there were two gusn for every Swiss citizen |
17:57.05 | Imperios | >be fucking irrelevant merchant/nomad people that nobody cares about surrounded by fancy civilised people |
17:57.15 | Imperios | >some guy comes and says FUCK THIS |
17:57.20 | Imperios | >unite |
17:57.26 | Monet | Imperios: And thus empire is born |
17:57.40 | Imperios | >fuck over the rest of your region |
17:57.53 | Monet | Yep |
17:58.07 | Imperios | >fuck over more civilised empires and steal their science and culture |
17:58.17 | Imperios | >become civilised and cultured and scientifically advanced yourself |
17:58.34 | Monet | Historically some of the most badass leaders in history were the ones who *founded* an empire. |
17:58.45 | Imperios | >another horde of angry nomad people come and fuck YOU over |
17:58.54 | Imperios | >the cycle continues |
17:59.18 | Hachiman | brb |
17:59.20 | Monet | Imperios: Actually I think England fits too. |
17:59.38 | Imperios | Sort of yes |
17:59.52 | Monet | Before the colonisation of the Americas, England was a teeny island partially isolated from continental politics |
18:00.47 | Monet | Spain became rich and powerful and thought it could claim England as part of it's empire. So it built a massive navy that ended up getting trorn apart by smaller ships part of a smaller navy. |
18:01.14 | Monet | With Spain's navy crippled, England picked up the slack. |
18:02.03 | Monet | The only difference was England wasn't completely insignificant. Just partially cut off |
18:02.39 | Monet | Then our empire got fucked over by Africans and Indians. |
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18:03.12 | Hachiman | My PC is being faulty with its internet so I am on the laptop |
18:03.17 | Hachiman | Honestly kinda prefer it |
18:03.46 | Imperios | Monet: Feel the power of Gandhi |
18:03.56 | Monet | http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/14/article-0-18A8D934000005DC-104_634x344.jpg so this is Switzerland's answer to the space shuttle |
18:04.31 | dino82_ | @monet: add to that, they could'nt overcome their rivals of the East Indian Trading Company and the Dutch Navies |
18:04.31 | Hachiman | Reminds me of an SRS Blackbird kinda |
18:04.44 | dino82_ | Europe had quite some powerful empires around that time |
18:04.56 | dino82_ | As well as France, they were heavily present as well |
18:05.40 | Monet | dino82_: Which East India Company though? |
18:06.21 | dino82_ | the Dutch one, they ruled the seas once around that time |
18:06.37 | dino82_ | (don't look at us now as small as we are but ah well............) |
18:07.06 | Monet | Oh yeah there was a lot of Indian and Indonesian sea trade. |
18:07.20 | Hachiman | qt dutch navy boys |
18:07.46 | Imperios | AYAYAYAYAYAAA |
18:07.52 | Monet | Iwas asking because at its height the British East India Company was in control of 2/3rds of the Indian subcontinent. |
18:08.10 | Imperios | Hachiman: Didn't the British Navy allow its members to have sex with each other? |
18:08.33 | Hachiman | I am not sure about that |
18:09.18 | Monet | The DUch were solid rivals I won't deny that. |
18:09.40 | Monet | The 18th and 19th centuries were indeed the age of empires. |
18:10.23 | Imperios | I remember reading somewhere that England's sodomy laws were rendered moot if a man spent 90 days at sea |
18:11.34 | Hachiman | Hm curious |
18:11.44 | Imperios | And that's how Hachi became a sailor |
18:12.02 | Monet | I admit was partially inspired myself by the VOC and the EIC when it came to the commercial prevalence of the DI's many corporations. |
18:12.56 | Imperios | That's actually kinda strange that Russia never had a large trade company like EIC |
18:12.59 | Monet | At its height the EIC was the one covering all the expenses in India. If not, there might have been a massive budget hole for Westminster to deal with. |
18:13.27 | Hachiman | British navy is full of athletic bara men in sailor outfits |
18:13.43 | Monet | Imperios: Might have been Russia's position. |
18:13.50 | Monet | location* |
18:14.02 | Monet | The EIC and VOC were primarily maritime organisations. |
18:14.06 | Imperios | Would make sense |
18:14.48 | Imperios | Communication in the Russian Empire was mostly based around rivers before the introduction of railroad |
18:15.12 | Monet | One of the things that made such a thing popular was that it allowed Europe to circumnavigate the Ottoman Empire's dominance over land trade with Asia |
18:15.37 | Imperios | So instead of removing kebab you decided to remove yourself *from* kebab |
18:15.47 | Monet | Prettymuch. |
18:15.50 | Hachiman | I know nothing of the Ottoman Empire and I feel as if I should |
18:16.03 | Imperios | They were the ultimate kebabs |
18:16.10 | Imperios | That's why they were removed |
18:16.32 | Hachiman | All I know is that Turkey is one of the prominent states that seceded it |
18:16.38 | Monet | http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/89/4789-004-2F86E60E.jpg well this was their extent for a start. |
18:16.41 | Imperios | Turkey IS the Ottoman Empire |
18:16.50 | Imperios | ...What remains of it |
18:16.59 | Hachiman | That is how much I know hur |
18:17.30 | Imperios | The prominent states that seceded it |
18:17.41 | Imperios | That would be pretty much all of the Middle East west of Iran |
18:17.46 | Imperios | And all of Southeastern Europe |
18:18.11 | Monet | For a time, the Ottoman Empire and the Islamic world were difficult to separate. |
18:18.42 | Imperios | Well the Ottoman Empire did not constitute the entirety of the Islamic world, as there was also the Shiite Iran |
18:18.56 | Imperios | And of course India |
18:18.58 | Monet | Hence why I said difficult. Not impossible. |
18:19.13 | Monet | India's iffy since you also have Hindusim and Buddhism |
18:19.13 | Imperios | And places like Samarkand but they accepted OUR GLORIOUS EMPIRE |
18:19.15 | Imperios | So they do not count |
18:19.18 | Hachiman | So Sunnis are Turkic |
18:19.29 | Imperios | Sunni is not a nation |
18:19.38 | Imperios | It's a denomination of a religion |
18:19.41 | Hachiman | I know I meant |
18:19.50 | Imperios | Well sort of |
18:20.01 | Hachiman | Sunnis were part of the Ottoman Empire instead of the Shiites |
18:20.03 | Imperios | The Ottoman Sultan was also the Sunni equivalent of the Pope |
18:20.16 | Imperios | Sunni = most of the Middle East sans Iran and Iraq |
18:20.43 | Monet | One of the reasons Iran and Iraq are divided is that their heads of state are of different denominations to each other. |
18:20.51 | Imperios | Only Iraq |
18:20.53 | Imperios | Iran is Shiite |
18:21.03 | Imperios | 100% Shiite I mean |
18:21.14 | Imperios | They're fucking Muslim hipsters |
18:21.27 | Hachiman | So the difference between Shiites and Sunnis is practically the same difference between Christian Catholocism and Protestantism |
18:21.29 | Monet | Yeah, Iraq is lead by a small group of Sunni leadership irrc |
18:21.36 | Imperios | More like Catholicism and Orthodoxy |
18:22.06 | Hachiman | I know little of Orthodoxy hur |
18:22.25 | Imperios | Like with Catholicism and Orthodoxy, it began as a conflict over who's boss |
18:22.28 | Imperios | Mostly |
18:22.47 | Monet | Orthodox christians were the ones who rejected the authority of the Pope, right? |
18:22.50 | Hachiman | I was raised in an atheist household so my knowledge of the differences between Catholicism, Orthodixy, and Protestantism is sparing |
18:23.02 | Imperios | Protestantism was more of a religious reformation thing so I think the Muslim counterpart to it would be either Sikhism or Baha'i |
18:23.07 | Imperios | Baha'i are cool fellas TBH |
18:23.15 | Imperios | Well basically |
18:23.39 | Imperios | Catholicism emphasise the authority of the Pope and, in religious matters, the importance of suffering in achieving salvation |
18:23.40 | Monet | The Byzantine Empire was historically Orthadox. There was quite a bit of tension between Rome and Constantinople. |
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18:24.00 | Hachiman | Hai~ |
18:24.05 | Monet | Hi |
18:24.23 | Imperios | Protestants emphasise self-governance and the importance of pure faith in achieving salvation |
18:24.27 | Imperios | Sola fide and all that |
18:24.31 | OluapPlayer | reeeee |
18:24.50 | Hachiman | git out muh fukn channel normie |
18:24.55 | Imperios | And Orthodox Christians emphasise the authority of local Patriarchs and the importance of religious law in achieving salvation |
18:24.58 | Imperios | Also |
18:25.05 | Imperios | Orthodox Christians allow priests to have sex |
18:25.15 | Hachiman | Oh sweet |
18:25.16 | Technobliterator | Sikhism is definitely not an Islam reformation in the way that Protestantism |
18:25.16 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
18:25.39 | Imperios | Yes but Sikhism is based on Islam among other things |
18:25.46 | Imperios | As I said Baha'i is a better comparison |
18:26.04 | Hachiman | Isn't Sikhism based on Hinduism as well? |
18:26.08 | Imperios | Except that Baha'i are swell dudes and Protestants are intolerant bastards |
18:26.24 | Hachiman | Aye, Puritan bastards |
18:26.31 | Imperios | GOD HATES FAGS |
18:26.36 | Technobliterator | As do Anglicans |
18:26.37 | Technobliterator | But there are no significant differences that matter, really |
18:26.40 | Monet | ...I used to be protestant. |
18:26.58 | Imperios | You mean between different Protestant denominations? |
18:26.59 | Monet | Well, Anglican. |
18:27.18 | Imperios | ...Silly Europeans with their religious reformation |
18:27.51 | Monet | The main distinguishment is Anglicanism is rare outside of the UK and we consider th Queen as our head of faith. |
18:28.03 | Imperios | Well actually we did have a minor religious reformation too but it *won*, and those who did not accept it fled into Siberia |
18:28.12 | Monet | But aside from her the highest religious authority is the Archbishop of Canterbury. |
18:28.36 | Imperios | Swedes are Protestant right? |
18:30.21 | Monet | Most Nordic regions are, which is quite intriguing. |
18:30.35 | Hachiman | I find all this stuff both fascinating and kinda confusing hur |
18:31.04 | Hachiman | I mean I enjoy learning of religions and religious leadership and such |
18:31.17 | Monet | Its a lot to take in. |
18:31.26 | Hachiman | open-minded atheism is best atheism <3 |
18:31.26 | Imperios | They have fucking lesbian bishops |
18:31.44 | Monet | Hachiman: Agreed. |
18:32.17 | Monet | I have trouble standing "I am atheist therefore I am smarter" types. |
18:32.25 | Hachiman | Atheism that is not open-minded should just be deemed antitheism |
18:32.33 | Hachiman | Or general stupidity |
18:32.55 | Hachiman | Most people tend to forget that many fathers behind engineering and science were religious |
18:33.14 | Imperios | Yeah |
18:33.42 | Hachiman | In fact many scientists in the modern era still ARE religious |
18:33.56 | Monet | The Ottoman Empire wasn't the longest lasting emprei in history (it became rather stagnent by the late 1600s) but in its short time it is responsible for the current spread and possible state of Islam, as well as being one of the catalysts for westward expansion into the Americas. |
18:34.27 | Hachiman | Does this mean the expansion of the Ottoman Empire led to cowboys |
18:34.41 | OluapPlayer | FUCK ur cowboys |
18:34.50 | Hachiman | fuk u u fukn monkey |
18:34.51 | Monet | Sort-of. |
18:35.23 | Technobliterator | drom, congratulations |
18:35.23 | Technobliterator | You can now edit the MediaWiki pages yourself :o |
18:35.47 | Monet | As I said, for much of its history if you wanted to get to Asia you had two options: Travel through the Ottoman Empire or go oround Cape Horn. |
18:36.37 | Hachiman | I can only imagine what would have happened if Islam had reached Japan rather than Christianity |
18:36.52 | Monet | And being an empire, travelling though the Ottoman Empire meant dealig with bureaocracy and trade tariffs. |
18:37.02 | Hachiman | Then again, probably not much difference actually |
18:37.24 | Hachiman | Aside from Samurai incorporating explosive seppuku methods hur |
18:37.29 | Monet | So Westerners did what any self-respecting businessman does when he gets a bad deal: Leave and look for another one |
18:37.44 | Technobliterator | There are Christian terrorists as well |
18:37.55 | Hachiman | Well yeah |
18:37.59 | Hachiman | The IRA for one |
18:38.22 | Monet | Its because Islamic terrorists are in the current public scope |
18:38.25 | Technobliterator | And the ones who bomb abortion clinics |
18:38.43 | Technobliterator | It's because the media portrays them as the threat to hate right now |
18:38.48 | Monet | There haven't been IRA attacks for years |
18:38.56 | Technobliterator | They did for Communists back in the day |
18:39.21 | Hachiman | I doubt the IRA exists anymore |
18:39.24 | Monet | Technobliterator: The media loves nothing mroe than an entity to channel collective hate |
18:39.57 | Technobliterator | Exactly |
18:40.08 | Technobliterator | The Media, and the governmentn |
18:40.16 | Technobliterator | nope, IRA still exist |
18:40.43 | Technobliterator | if you look on Google Maps for catholic church locations in Ireland, you will find none |
18:41.01 | Technobliterator | they are purposefully hidden so people don't look them up to find places to attack |
18:41.05 | Hachiman | Huh |
18:41.40 | drom | Techno: Wot |
18:42.03 | Technobliterator | As, drom, grats on the promotion |
18:42.34 | drom | Nice! |
18:42.57 | drom | I'll deliever a hotfix: Change every font to Comic Sans |
18:42.58 | Technobliterator | So now you don't need to ask any of us to get it edited anymore |
18:43.03 | Technobliterator | hah |
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18:44.41 | Monet | I think the Ottoman Empire is also one of the reasons Turkey can sometimes feel like a mix of the MIddle East and Greece. |
18:44.49 | drom | I can as well add user-fonts and similar additions that doesn't need reviewal and such, when none of the admin is either online of available. |
18:45.11 | Monet | Greece and Hungary also have some mild Turkic influences i ntheir culture. |
18:45.50 | Hachiman | I wonder if Africa has ever had a long-standing empire of its own |
18:46.01 | Technobliterator | mhm |
18:46.11 | Technobliterator | And that msg update you were planning |
18:46.29 | Monet | The Malinese empire lasted for almost 400 years |
18:46.48 | OluapPlayer | I read that as mgs update |
18:46.57 | OluapPlayer | liquiiiiiid |
18:47.54 | Monet | At one time theemperors of Mali (particularly Mansa Musa) were some of the richeest men in the world. |
18:48.05 | Technobliterator | oh man |
18:48.20 | Hachiman | Also when I say African empires, if anybody says Egypt I will be peeved hur |
18:48.24 | Technobliterator | dat MGSV |
18:48.24 | Technobliterator | trailer |
18:48.55 | Monet | Hachiman: We know. |
18:50.42 | TheImperios | Hachiman: Mali, Songhai, Ethiopia, Zimbabwe, the trade cities of Southeast Africa and Somali, Nubia, Kush |
18:50.53 | Ghel | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_empires |
18:51.18 | Ghel | Quite a few were in West Africa; IIRC a good location due to trans-Saharan trade routes. |
18:51.26 | TheImperios | Though Kush was basically south Egypt |
18:51.26 | Hachiman | >Ethiopia |
18:51.40 | Hachiman | I never would have thought Ethiopia was an empire once |
18:51.54 | TheImperios | They've been an empire since 1979 |
18:52.02 | Monet | Hachiman: One of the major consequences of European colonialism |
18:52.06 | TheImperios | *before 1979 |
18:52.07 | TheImperios | I think |
18:52.19 | OluapPlayer | I didn't watch the new trailer |
18:52.24 | OluapPlayer | No idea when it was even announced |
18:52.29 | Monet | Als i ithink Carthathe counts as African. |
18:52.38 | Monet | also I think* |
18:52.42 | Monet | Carthage* |
18:53.03 | Hachiman | Huh I did not envision Carthage as African |
18:53.23 | TheImperios | They were where Tunis is now |
18:53.27 | TheImperios | So, North African |
18:53.47 | TheImperios | Come to think about it |
18:53.54 | Ghel | Carthage was in Africa, but as an offshoot of Phoenecia I wouldn't say it was really a native empire. |
18:53.55 | TheImperios | There were a lot of civilisations in what is now Nigeria |
18:54.06 | TheImperios | But I can't remember any names |
18:54.08 | Hachiman | I was gonna say |
18:54.11 | TheImperios | Nri is the only one I can remember |
18:54.34 | Ghel | Here's a map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/African-civilizations-map-pre-colonial.svg |
18:54.55 | Hachiman | I do not recall any interpretations of Hannibal being a black African man hur |
18:55.30 | TheImperios | Well |
18:55.41 | Monet | Hachiman: Likely because Phonecia was in the Holy Land. |
18:55.42 | TheImperios | North Africa is *not* black and has never been |
18:56.02 | Hachiman | But |
18:56.04 | Hachiman | Africa |
18:56.30 | Monet | The Moors. |
18:56.40 | TheImperios | Look by your logic I can deduce Xho should look like me because India is in Asia hur |
18:57.17 | TheImperios | North Africans weren't super pasty either though |
18:57.21 | TheImperios | Let me find a picture |
18:57.33 | Monet | The Mediterranian has a lot of Middle-Eastern influences due to peopel like the Phonecians and ROman Africa. |
18:58.16 | TheImperios | Hachiman: https://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/syrian-nubian-libyian-egyptian.gif dere |
18:58.16 | Hachiman | I guess I just envision South Africa when I hear Africa as a continent being mentioned |
18:58.31 | Hachiman | Which is wrong of me |
18:58.34 | TheImperios | Syrian, Nubian (that's where Sudan is now), Libyan, Egyptian |
18:59.18 | Monet | Hachiman: It happens |
18:59.23 | TheImperios | So Egyptians were kinda like black-white-brown-something |
18:59.42 | Hachiman | Nubians are like super black in that picture hur |
18:59.57 | OluapPlayer | but dats wrong |
19:00.00 | OluapPlayer | dey were mummies |
19:00.06 | OluapPlayer | dunt u watch cartoons |
19:00.27 | TheImperios | OluapPlayer: Dey were brown mummies |
19:00.39 | TheImperios | Hachiman: Yep |
19:00.50 | TheImperios | http://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1600133.1387510212!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg That's what the Sudanese look like now |
19:01.16 | TheImperios | Feel the heat of da Sahara |
19:01.17 | Monet | Sudanese gained a reputation for being super-dark. |
19:01.28 | Monet | Almost black. |
19:01.50 | TheImperios | Meanwhile I think from what I remember of them even modern Egyptians are kinda darker than most Arabs |
19:03.05 | TheImperios | Monet: When I think of Africa I usually think of Nigeria for some reason |
19:03.09 | TheImperios | And West Africa in general |
19:03.39 | TheImperios | That and Ethiopia, but that's only because the only person of African descent I know is half-Ethiopian |
19:03.51 | Monet | The term "black" and all its slurs likely came from the almost pitch-dark colouration of a number of slaves who were native to Sub-Saharan Africa where it is *really* sunny. |
19:03.51 | Hachiman | So North Africa is where native white Africans come from |
19:04.01 | TheImperios | Well not *white* |
19:04.10 | Hachiman | Minus Phoenicians hur |
19:04.16 | TheImperios | Not "sieg heil" white, rather "Allahu Akbar" white |
19:04.22 | TheImperios | And a tad darker than that |
19:05.10 | TheImperios | BTW that Ethiopian guy I know actually took pictures with fucking Haile Selassie |
19:05.11 | TheImperios | Haile |
19:05.13 | TheImperios | Fucking |
19:05.14 | TheImperios | Selassie |
19:05.38 | Monet | That and "white" is a slight exaggeration as well. |
19:05.49 | Monet | Most "white" people are more a light pinky-cream. |
19:06.00 | Hachiman | Well you know what I meant |
19:06.06 | Monet | I know I know |
19:06.20 | TheImperios | I think "Caucasoid" is the proper term |
19:06.38 | Hachiman | But they are not Caucasian hur |
19:06.45 | TheImperios | Well |
19:06.52 | TheImperios | Define "Caucasian" |
19:07.04 | Hachiman | As in the country |
19:07.14 | Monet | Just hypothesising that "black" and "white" as a combination of exaggeration, misperception and igmorance. |
19:07.22 | Hachiman | You berated me for saying Caucasian instead of white |
19:07.27 | TheImperios | Caucasus is a region, not a country |
19:07.33 | Hachiman | Know what I meant |
19:07.35 | TheImperios | Hence "Caucasoid", not "Caucasian" |
19:07.41 | Ghel | You could come up with a technically-accurate politically-correct term if you like. Such as "melaninistically-challenged". |
19:07.53 | TheImperios | But that would include paler Asians |
19:08.06 | Hachiman | >challenged implying that they struggle with their pigmentation |
19:08.12 | TheImperios | The term we used in biology courses here was "Europeoid" or something |
19:08.25 | TheImperios | Okay racial anthropology is a complex term |
19:08.29 | Monet | "Europeoid" sounds like a shape. |
19:08.39 | TheImperios | I IS SHAPED LIKE WHITE |
19:08.46 | TheImperios | *complex thing |
19:09.14 | Ghel | Yeah; some reference to European descent might be most reasonable if you're not going for "white". |
19:09.15 | Hachiman | brb |
19:09.17 | TheImperios | Monet: Who is white depends a lot on the person in question |
19:09.36 | TheImperios | Like a few decades ago Cyrannian would not have been considered white |
19:09.37 | Monet | TheImperios: Yeah that's why I included perception. |
19:09.38 | TheImperios | In America |
19:10.06 | TheImperios | Also politics |
19:10.28 | TheImperios | Like for example how Arabs were treated during the Colonial Age by historians |
19:10.45 | Monet | To someone from Etheopia with very dark skin Most Central and Northern Europeans would look pale as a cloud because they can more easily distingusih the darker pigmentations. |
19:11.28 | TheImperios | In the 19th century, Arab prospects in Africa were usually praised and seen as an example of civilising Africans through colonisation, with Arabs considered white |
19:11.52 | TheImperios | Nowadays we usually view Arab conquests as destructive |
19:12.00 | drom | <Technobliterator> And that msg update you were planning |
19:12.06 | TheImperios | Or, alternatively, praise their cultural advancements to be politically correct |
19:12.08 | Monet | I noticed in a visit ot Barcelona this year that there are a lot of Spanish living there with a similar pigmentation to me. |
19:12.39 | drom | Yeah, but it however require to go through a community reviewal and gain approval first |
19:12.39 | Ghel | Conquest in general is often viewed as destructive nowadays. |
19:12.42 | TheImperios | When in fact it was Iran who was at the spearhead of Medieval Islamic science, culture and learning and it was Persian sciences that formed the foundation of the Islamic Golden Age |
19:13.09 | TheImperios | Though without the Arabs, their commerce and their Islam they would have never spread their influence that far |
19:13.29 | Monet | One of the benefits of multiculturalism. |
19:15.51 | TheImperios | Basically along with the wonders of ALLAHU AKBAR, the Arabs also spread advances in science and culture that they themselves took from their neighbours and further developed |
19:16.33 | TheImperios | Funnily enough religion kinda spurred their scientific advancement |
19:17.04 | TheImperios | One of the reasons algebra was developed in the Caliphate was that complex calculations were needed to split inheritance according to Shari'a |
19:17.13 | Monet | And then Europeans took those advances in science during the crusades lol. |
19:20.49 | Ghel | IIRC it was the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople that really brought Europe out of the Middle Ages and eventually allowed the scientific revolution to take place, as people fled the city with ancient Greek texts and encouraged a new age of learning. |
19:21.04 | TheImperios | That and the Reconquista |
19:22.06 | TheImperios | There were also these Persian bros who made fucking robots in the fucking Middle Ages |
19:22.14 | TheImperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Ingenious_Devices Allahu Akbar-bots |
19:25.02 | Ghel | Yeah; I think the idea that the past was all primitive until the industrial revolution is in part thanks to the fact that Europe just gave up on everything after Rome fell, so we look back to those post-classical times and it doesn't usually look good as far as innovation is concerned. |
19:26.07 | TheImperios | Monet: That discussion about multiculturalism reminded me of one thing about Mass Effect |
19:26.41 | TheImperios | For all the cultural diversity Mass Effect's humanity provides, you still end up killing Russians and punching Arabs hur |
19:26.57 | Monet | Ghel: A combination of that and anthethiestic propaganda by Victorian scholars |
19:27.28 | Monet | E.g. everyone thinkign the world was flat |
19:27.32 | Ghel | Ah, yes. A distorted view of that history doesn't help. |
19:28.33 | TheImperios | OluapPlayer: "One of al-Jazari's humanoid automata was a waitress that could serve water, tea or drinks. The drink was stored in a tank with a reservoir from where the drink drips into a bucket and, after seven minutes, into a cup, after which the waitress appears out of an automatic door serving the drink." |
19:28.40 | TheImperios | Fucking medieval robot maids |
19:29.46 | Monet | TheImperios: 3 lets you punch a capitalist. |
19:29.52 | Monet | An American capitalist. |
19:30.01 | TheImperios | FOR MOTHER RUSSIA |
19:30.43 | Monet | And also punch a Chinese man... |
19:30.56 | OluapPlayer | beep boop |
19:30.58 | Monet | Actually that's a bit...off |
19:31.10 | Monet | The most prominent Chinese person in the series is a total asswipe. |
19:31.17 | TheImperios | Wasn't there also Fai Dan? |
19:35.56 | Monet | I wouldn't call him prominent |
19:36.19 | Monet | He's nowhere near as prominent i nthe story as Kai Leng. |
19:38.01 | TheImperios | Kai was Russian/Chinese |
19:38.06 | TheImperios | ...Which kinda serves my point |
19:39.04 | Monet | I wa sgoign to say that it could be how Americna media seems to continue to demonise Russians |
19:39.11 | Monet | But then I rememebred Bioware is Canadian |
19:39.22 | TheImperios | Then they should apologise hur |
19:39.42 | TheImperios | There was a lot of controversy in Russia over the Soviet campaign of Company of Heroes |
19:40.52 | Monet | SHepard is possibly the world's most badass Candian. |
19:41.34 | TheImperios | Most of Russians felt that Relic portrayed the Soviets as too unsympathetic, highlighting the brutality of Stalinist regime rather than the bravery of Soviet soldiers |
19:42.41 | TheImperios | Monet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4SCUaBHS8&sns=em This |
19:42.55 | drom | Hollywood Gigolo is a pretty fun movie |
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19:44.25 | Monet | "thank you Canada for Justin Beiber" |
19:44.28 | Monet | Hi |
19:44.31 | Ghel | Hello. |
19:44.38 | DrodoEmpire | You're welcome |
19:44.38 | DrodoEmpire | <3 |
19:44.57 | drom | Hey |
19:46.23 | TheImperios | Monet: I don't think we should judge nations by their lows |
19:46.31 | TheImperios | Otherwise the Armenian Genocide would have been justified |
19:46.37 | TheImperios | Because of Anita Sarkeesian and Kim Kardashian |
19:48.08 | Ghel | So instead you're arguing that the genocide merely targeted the wrong people? |
19:48.13 | Monet | I like Canada |
19:48.21 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Aww |
19:48.34 | Monet | Is Bieber considered a national disgrace? |
19:48.56 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta |
19:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
19:49.39 | Ghel | Canada has produced other people in the music industry, too. |
19:49.47 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:50.09 | Ghel | Drake. The Weeknd. Carly Rae Jepsen. |
19:50.11 | TheImperios | I wonder if UK has any Bieber-like singer |
19:50.14 | drom | I do like Canada due to its politics compared to our current mess. |
19:50.24 | TheImperios | As in, any annoying pretty boys favoured by fangirls |
19:50.36 | drom | I do even get the impression that Canadians have more tolerance than the average Swede. |
19:50.39 | DrodoEmpire | Deadmau5, Joal Plaskett, etc. |
19:50.53 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Eh maybe? I dunno very many Swedes. XD |
19:51.01 | Ghel | TheImperios: Not any individual singers I can think of, but bands like One Direction might count there. |
19:51.03 | DrodoEmpire | We tend to be polite I guess |
19:51.07 | TheImperios | OH |
19:51.09 | drom | But I don't like it when you copyright the moose. >:| |
19:51.35 | TheImperios | We had a few good girl bands but otherwise I do not think Russians are good at pop music |
19:51.45 | Monet | Amy Winehouse |
19:52.02 | TheImperios | Classical composers are really the only noteworthy contribution to music we have made |
19:52.34 | TheImperios | Meanwhile the land of my ancestors is a fucking nightmare factory of terrible music |
19:53.26 | DrodoEmpire | Meh Canada's alright. I'm not a *huge* fan of deadmau5, anyway, nor of many other Canadian musicians. I just know of them and listen to them every now and then |
19:53.28 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Would you be offended if I said I am a big fam of Stargate? |
19:53.37 | DrodoEmpire | Monet:...No? XD |
19:53.45 | Monet | Oh good. |
19:53.51 | TheImperios | Stargate is Canadian?! |
19:54.09 | Monet | TheImperios: Technically joint Canadain-American |
19:54.14 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:54.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
19:54.26 | DrodoEmpire | I believe it was filmed in BC |
19:54.37 | drom | Doesn't matter is it is Canadian/American, it is just great. All great. |
19:54.40 | drom | if* |
19:55.53 | Monet | Being filmed in Canada is probably why 80% of planets they visit look like this http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2011/03/16/canadas_forests_the_earths_waterkeeper_us_environmental_group/borealforest.jpeg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpeg |
19:57.16 | Monet | Although all the scenes that show the tunnel into Cheyenne Mountain were from the real-life entrance into NORAD |
19:57.49 | TheImperios | Monet: ...That looks like Siberia |
19:58.14 | Monet | TheImperios: Similar latitudes. |
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19:59.11 | Ghel | Siberia, Canada, Scandinavia; isn't it practically just one giant coniferous forest / tundra anyway? :P |
20:00.03 | Wormy_away | TheImperios: "Bieber-like singer" While they are Irish, Jedward have the similar "either loved or hated" fame here |
20:00.35 | TheImperios | Ghel the American |
20:01.05 | TheImperios | Huh |
20:01.20 | TheImperios | We have a Bieber-like singer but he's less of a pretty oby |
20:01.22 | TheImperios | *boy |
20:01.24 | TheImperios | http://life4news.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bilan.jpg Look at him |
20:01.45 | TheImperios | Now we need Hachiman to rate him |
20:02.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ghel: Ehh... |
20:02.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | Canada is a *bit* more diverse than that, though yes its a *lot* of forest |
20:02.59 | Wormy_away | Ghel is not of puny Earth nationality |
20:03.03 | Monet | https://youtu.be/csFZPxTwkuY?t=5m55s rewatching the series, this interrgoation's been in my head all day |
20:03.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | Basically to the west you have wheat fields, oil, and pretty forests and mountains. |
20:04.09 | TheImperios | Monet: Oooh I saw that |
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20:04.26 | Monet | "Who are you" "captain james T. Kirk, of the Starship Enterprise" "that's not what your dog-tags say" "they're lying" |
20:04.34 | TheImperios | Didn't he also call himself Vader there |
20:04.38 | Wormy_away | I just think of forests of maple trees, each one tapped for syrup, with moose and mountains overhead |
20:04.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | In Central Canada (Ontario and southern Quebec for the sake of argument) you've got your pretty lakes and urban sprawl. And to the east... Well, more forest, quaint fishing/mining towns and the (very) occasional town. |
20:05.00 | TheImperios | I remember watching this episode, I was seriously confused about what the hell I was even looking at |
20:05.15 | Monet | TheImperios: Luke Skywalker actually. |
20:06.42 | Ghel | More seriously, I was thinking of this biome map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Distribution_Taiga.png although there is of course more to that than thick continuous forest otherwise the same sorts of map would imply that I should be surrounded by oak trees right now. |
20:07.13 | Monet | Later on Daniel decides t otry talking to a former friend by pretending to be a foreign friend of her husband's. When asked hwo he's going ot manage it Daniel's response is "I speak 23 languages, pick one" |
20:10.53 | Monet | TheImperios: To be fair I think 1969 was a filler episode |
20:11.39 | Monet | They went back in time via Stargate and had ot travel to DC to reactivate the stargate and go home. |
20:12.20 | Monet | http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4vjqcgBPw1rxtbbbo1_400.jpg also look at Teal'c's getup |
20:12.41 | Monet | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/stargate/images/b/b6/1969_%28Stargate_SG-1%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080430150938 better picture |
20:12.48 | Monet | ...or not |
20:13.02 | Monet | http://www.rda-forever.com/galleries/albums/various/PROMOS/StargateSG1/1969.jpg |
20:13.40 | Monet | They gave Teal'c a pink shirt, flowert waistcoat and an afro and he saw nothing wrong with wearing such a thing.. |
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20:14.37 | External | ey |
20:14.43 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:14.57 | Monet | hi |
20:16.44 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alcanti_Royal_Palace anyway did some revision. |
20:17.13 | OluapPlayer | Didn't expect Maryah to have her own private chamber |
20:17.47 | Monet | Alessa likes her. |
20:17.55 | Hachiman | Kezoreg - not private wen im in dere |
20:18.49 | Wormy_away | Monet: Pink was a manly colour |
20:19.02 | dino82_ | see ya |
20:19.04 | dino82_ | have to go all |
20:19.05 | Monet | Wormy_away: It was indeed the colour of warriors. |
20:19.10 | dino82_ | till next itme.............................................................................. :D |
20:19.11 | Monet | Goodbye |
20:19.12 | Wormy_away | bye |
20:19.54 | Wormy_away | The Klingons in the animated series also wore pink!.................. |
20:20.00 | Wormy_away | <PROTECTED> |
20:20.27 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I'm tempted to the idea of Aldaren being reserved her own room but I dunno how ofte nshe'd visit. |
20:21.37 | Wormy_away | http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Koloth2269.jpg |
20:21.43 | Monet | And there's also my curiosity about hwo close she could be to the royal family. |
20:21.55 | Wormy_away | http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Traitors_Claw.jpg |
20:22.01 | Monet | Such a preivelage is reserved for friends and close allies of the family. |
20:22.13 | OluapPlayer | Since she's the sole ruler of the Imperium now, I don't imagine her visiting too often |
20:22.22 | OluapPlayer | But I can't see why she can't be a close friend of the family |
20:22.33 | Wormy_away | http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Chuft_Captain.jpg |
20:22.44 | Monet | I'll include her then. |
20:22.56 | drom | Aldaren is now a ruler of the Imperium? |
20:23.05 | Hachiman | Zoles Imperium |
20:23.12 | drom | Alright |
20:23.19 | Monet | A number of reservations are probably more for state visits or for diplomatic meetings than social calls. |
20:24.44 | Monet | Gives visiting dignitaries a place to stay other than in a hotel or aboard an orbiting starship |
20:26.06 | Hachiman | Kezoreg - ur gonna wanna git up a cleen up in maryahs room cus she a dirty grill |
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20:26.27 | The_Randomness | Hello |
20:26.41 | Monet | Another perk to a personal rom in the royal palace is it can be styled however the occupant wants it. |
20:26.42 | drom | >Wormulus II has private room in the royal palace of Alcanti |
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20:28.40 | The_Randomness | waptor |
20:29.02 | drom | rawr |
20:29.17 | Monet | drom: Uriel's not the sort to revoke room privelages jsut because his empire's at war with that person's empire. |
20:29.25 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:29.36 | OluapPlayer | "I want to murder him but he's an ok guy." |
20:29.38 | Cyrannian | Hello! |
20:30.14 | drom | Monet: Prime example of Dane-Swede-seque relations |
20:30.55 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/VTZAOln.png |
20:31.33 | Monet | drom: That's Impreial inter-noble politics in a nutshell |
20:31.34 | Hachiman | Well from what I know, the leaders, ambassadors, and politicians of WW1 were all rather intertwined in familial relations and friendships |
20:32.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
20:32.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Habsburgs were *everywhere*. |
20:33.07 | TheImperios | Power of incest |
20:34.02 | TheImperios | Monet: Wow the last MLP episode actually features the Doctor Who pony as the main character |
20:34.14 | Hachiman | Ew |
20:34.16 | drom | NO |
20:34.34 | External | I hate that show... |
20:34.37 | Hachiman | Not so much ew because MLP but ew because MLP + Doctor Who |
20:34.40 | TheImperios | And he actually has a British accent |
20:34.56 | Hachiman | I do not mind either really but when combined it is just a concoction of ech |
20:35.04 | TheImperios | Hachiman: He's not that Doctor Who-themed, he just has a British accent and a clock tatoo |
20:35.09 | drom | NO divided with 2 |
20:35.11 | External | slices his own head off to escape MLP conversation |
20:35.11 | Monet | TheImperios: Probably in response to Doctor Whooves |
20:35.19 | TheImperios | That IS Doctor Whooves |
20:35.31 | Monet | You mean |
20:35.33 | Hachiman | TheImperios: Is his relationship with the cross-eyed thing canon? |
20:35.42 | Monet | They designed the pony to look like Matt Smith? |
20:35.49 | Hachiman | David Tennant hur |
20:36.00 | TheImperios | Hachiman: >thing |
20:36.19 | TheImperios | But yeah Derpy is the main character too and they live together |
20:36.32 | Hachiman | So they are canon couple |
20:36.35 | TheImperios | Yes |
20:36.43 | Hachiman | Cute hur |
20:36.51 | TheImperios | The 100th episode is basically Fanon: The Episode |
20:37.25 | TheImperios | Ohgod |
20:38.04 | TheImperios | In the last scene Dr. Hooves loses his suit and tries to get dressed for the wedding hastily |
20:38.14 | drom | TheImperios: http://i.imgur.com/8C662zm.jpg |
20:38.24 | TheImperios | ...He ends up up wearing a lot of scarves |
20:39.02 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
20:39.43 | TheImperios | Also Dr. Hooves is a scientist |
20:39.53 | TheImperios | Does that relate to Dr. Who somehow? |
20:40.15 | ExternalFic | realizes his head isn't completely sliced off and slices off the remainder of his head, and falls over dead. So much for ExternalFic. His reign was great. |
20:40.29 | TheImperios | ExternalFic: PONY PONY PONY PONY PONY PONY PONY |
20:40.41 | TheImperios | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpQFT-sRxBU |
20:40.52 | ExternalFic | says "fuk you..." in a creepy voice. Then he dies. |
20:41.00 | ExternalFic | I ain't gonna click that. |
20:41.11 | TheImperios | Seriously what problems do you have with ponies hur |
20:41.26 | ExternalFic | Just hate the show. |
20:41.29 | ExternalFic | Can't explain it. |
20:41.34 | TheImperios | Right |
20:41.39 | Hachiman | TheImperios: Well Time Lords are science-y kings of Gallifrey |
20:45.10 | ExternalFic | test |
20:45.55 | Hachiman | So appartently Electronic Arts issued a statement claiming that they would rather put effort into new products and games rather than working on remastered games |
20:46.05 | Hachiman | Which is logic I can honestly get behind |
20:46.19 | OluapPlayer | >EA |
20:46.21 | drom | Speaking of nostalgia.. Monetaway Cyrannian TheImperios: http://i.imgur.com/4K8kAEi.jpg |
20:46.22 | OluapPlayer | it's poopy butt |
20:46.36 | Hachiman | cept mass defect u fukn tard |
20:46.48 | OluapPlayer | >mass effect 3 |
20:46.50 | OluapPlayer | poopy butt |
20:47.07 | OluapPlayer | fite me fgt |
20:47.09 | Hachiman | cept its not shup |
20:47.31 | Cyrannian | I thought you didn't like it Hachi |
20:47.34 | Hachiman | Alright in seriousness I did not like ME3 as much as I did ME2 by a longshot |
20:47.40 | Ghel | drom: That makes perfect sense. |
20:47.53 | Hachiman | But there were some things I liked about ME3 |
20:48.00 | Cyrannian | Well my favourite is ME3 for some odd reason |
20:48.03 | OluapPlayer | ME2 was the best game in the trilogy to me |
20:48.19 | Hachiman | I mean for one the combat system is practically perfected in ME3 |
20:48.22 | Monetaway | My only complaint is the original ending and maybe the "eavesdroopper" style sidequest system. Other than that I liked it |
20:48.23 | drom | Ghel: Aye |
20:48.33 | ExternalFic | drom: plot twist! |
20:48.40 | Hachiman | Yeah ME2 is my favourite game in the series |
20:48.54 | OluapPlayer | I'm not going further into this since last time I was vocal about ME3 I was yelled at |
20:49.05 | TheImperios | GREEN SPACE MAGIC |
20:49.12 | Hachiman | ME3 has a lot wrong with it |
20:49.14 | drom | All this talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRKP3VbI41M |
20:49.38 | Hachiman | But then so did ME1 in regards to its gameplay mechanics |
20:49.52 | Hachiman | ME2 was the perfect crossover of RPG elements and gameplay mechanics |
20:50.21 | Hachiman | ME3 had better game mechanics overall but a worse and restrictive roleplaying experience |
20:50.41 | TheImperios | ME3 suffered from ending fatigue |
20:50.54 | TheImperios | Very high expectations and it failed to deliver |
20:51.32 | Hachiman | Not just the ending fatigue |
20:51.37 | OluapPlayer | That and the fact the game was revolved around a deux ex machina which came out of nowhere |
20:52.02 | TheImperios | That too |
20:52.12 | TheImperios | It kinda contradicted a lot of previous lore |
20:52.19 | TheImperios | Hachiman: BTW about that discussion about white people in Africa |
20:52.32 | ExternalFic | I liked the Mass Effect games, but the fact that you couldn't skip the long-ass speeches irritated me. |
20:52.37 | Hachiman | And the fact that you talked to characters a lot less and the Reapers were far more underpowered than they were made out to be as a story element |
20:52.44 | Cyrannian | I do think Sovereign is a far better antagonist than Harbinger |
20:52.46 | TheImperios | Come to think about there's another place in Africa where people are sort of white-ish - Ethiopia, Somali, and the rest of the Horn of Africa |
20:53.01 | TheImperios | Cyrannian: Sovereign was a tad too ominous to be a good protagonist, Harbinger was fun |
20:53.11 | OluapPlayer | >protagonist |
20:53.13 | OluapPlayer | u goofed up |
20:53.16 | TheImperios | *antagonist |
20:53.16 | drom | lmao |
20:53.17 | TheImperios | My mistake |
20:53.36 | Hachiman | I thought Somalians were like Nubians |
20:53.44 | OluapPlayer | I liked both Sovereign and Harbinger, their contrast was interesting |
20:53.44 | drom | honsetly saying, that's one of the funniest goof-ups I've seen |
20:53.46 | TheImperios | http://images.doctissimo.fr/1/beaute-mode/liya-kebede/photo/hd/3768852376/212708348ec/liya-kebede-liya-kebede-big.jpg?v=11 Ethiopians and Somalis are kinda dark-skinned but otherwise look like Arabs or Italians |
20:54.02 | Cyrannian | I mean I did like Harbinger but I didn't like how all the build up to him being the main antagonist was dropped in ME3 |
20:54.13 | OluapPlayer | But we didn't even get to fight Harbinger in any way and that sucks dong |
20:54.20 | Hachiman | aYE |
20:54.22 | Hachiman | Aye even |
20:54.25 | OluapPlayer | At least with Sovereign we fought an avatar of his will |
20:54.42 | drom | TheImperios Hachiman http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3a4ut1/why_did_jon_snow_stand_in_line_for_6_hours_at_the/ |
20:54.52 | Hachiman | And we thought an actual Reaper in ME2 |
20:54.54 | TheImperios | http://i.imgur.com/mR67eV4.jpg Somali |
20:54.57 | Hachiman | Or at least a proto-Reaper |
20:55.03 | Hachiman | *fought even |
20:55.12 | TheImperios | IMO the final boss should have been an actual fucking Reaper |
20:55.38 | TheImperios | This reminds me, Ethiopian girls are <33333 |
20:55.45 | Hachiman | drom: olol |
20:55.59 | Cyrannian | It would have been cool if you could take control of the Normandy and destroy Harbinger in the climax of ME3 or something along those lines |
20:56.14 | drom | The final boss in ME2 was a construct in the Collector's base. When it was destroyed, the base was destroyed, if I can recall correctly. |
20:56.28 | Hachiman | Reapers are constructed, not born |
20:56.49 | Hachiman | What was fought in ME2 was a proto-Reaper with a humanoid chassis |
20:57.04 | drom | Made of abucted lifeforms |
20:57.19 | Hachiman | All Reapers are made of abducted lifeforms hur |
20:57.27 | drom | k |
20:58.25 | drom | The proto-Reaper had a mix of Collector and Humanoid for appearance |
21:01.51 | drom | I've never understood the biology and lifecycle of the Reapers. |
21:02.31 | Hachiman | Well they are intended to be alien |
21:03.05 | OluapPlayer | They get a race, turn them into goo, put that goo inside a giant construct then make a bigger squid-like construct around that |
21:03.07 | OluapPlayer | Bam, Reaper |
21:03.19 | Hachiman | Aye |
21:03.26 | Hachiman | Reapers are manufactured |
21:04.22 | drom | When I first encountered the reaper larva (human-reaper) I could barely notice that it in fact had 4 weak-points in its eye sockets, but only one was covered. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140621181737/masseffect/images/2/24/Humanreaper_mugshot.png |
21:04.55 | Cyrannian | I can't find that video where Shepard takes Kelly Chambers out of the goo chamber used by the Collectors only to put her back in and say "your trust is well placed, Kelly" |
21:05.40 | ExternalFic | brb |
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21:05.59 | OluapPlayer | olol |
21:09.13 | drom | her death was kinda cruel though |
21:09.42 | Cyrannian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NZidTnSoLI - Ah here it is olol |
21:13.56 | drom | olol |
21:15.27 | drom | That ending should've been canon |
21:16.08 | ImpyDroid | Hur |
21:16.21 | Cyrannian | "I've been through a lot too, Kelly." |
21:17.32 | OluapPlayer | "I asked for this." |
21:17.33 | drom | Cyrannian Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E41qz1FciU |
21:17.36 | ImpyDroid | https://youtu.be/5wkW8KPKoII Timidly: That was kind of intriguingy |
21:18.51 | ImpyDroid | It reminds me of that discussion I had with my classmate today |
21:19.06 | ImpyDroid | We discussed what it would be like to play ME4 as a hanar |
21:19.11 | ImpyDroid | *groupmate |
21:19.44 | Hachiman | Splatoon is the answer |
21:20.33 | OluapPlayer | Hanars are not cute squid kids |
21:20.39 | Hachiman | dey can b |
21:20.47 | Cyrannian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFR4socSv_E Legion - beep boop beep |
21:21.22 | Cyrannian | Ah Shepard is a human/hanar hybrid in that video |
21:24.15 | Monetaway | I think I understand the logic behind using people |
21:24.45 | Monet | When broken down int oconstituent components, humans are made up of hydrocarbons and trace metals |
21:24.55 | Monet | Other lifeforms are probably similar |
21:25.17 | Hachiman | Probably most carbon-based lifeforms |
21:25.59 | Monet | The reapers probably don't even consider that go as, well, goo. They might percieve it as closer to molten plastic. |
21:27.36 | Monet | Hydrocarbons would be converted into plastics and carbon fibre for the body, while trace samples of gold and copper are used for the electronics |
21:30.16 | ImpyDroid | Monet: https://youtu.be/QUtoLaQfC0A |
21:33.00 | Monet | ImpyDroid: I liked Gul'Dan's reaction to Garrosh's rant |
21:33.26 | Monet | Gul'Dan - Ehh.....watlol? |
21:33.27 | ImpyDroid | He looked like fucking Jafar in that scene |
21:33.57 | Monet | Well he is a smug sorceror wh ocommands dark magical power |
21:34.24 | ImpyDroid | The trailer is a bit underwhelming though |
21:34.34 | ImpyDroid | I mean it was kinda short |
21:36.47 | Monet | Let's hope that Green Jesus doesn't kill Gul'dan too |
21:38.22 | Monet | drom: There's a possibility that it might actually be considered shameful (or possibly just immature) by Draconis to revoke stuff like room privelages beause you're in a heated rivalry. |
21:39.05 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Beta testers indicate that Thrall won't appear in 6.2 at all |
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21:39.13 | Monet | Hi |
21:39.17 | Zillafire101 | Hello all. |
21:39.24 | Monet | ImpyRdoid: Praise the Light! |
21:39.25 | ImpyDroid | Oh and Gul'dan isn't the final boss so it is likely that he will survive |
21:41.50 | ImpyDroid | Datamining indicates that Gul'dan will flee on his flagship |
21:42.17 | ImpyDroid | To Farahlon maybe? That's the only Outland zone they have not covered yet |
21:59.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
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22:02.41 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian: Can I ask you a question about Star Wars? |
22:03.13 | Cyrannian | aye |
22:03.28 | ImpyDroid | Did the Republic have any sort of military before the Clone Army, outside of the Jewish? |
22:03.35 | ImpyDroid | *Jedi |
22:03.39 | ImpyDroid | Fucking T9 |
22:04.34 | Cyrannian | They had the Judicials, though it was more of a law enforcement agency http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judicial_Department/Canon |
22:05.31 | drom | Monet: I see. |
22:05.37 | Cyrannian | Unless you mean the Republic in the Old Republic Era, which did field very large militaries against the various Sith Empires whenever they propped up |
22:06.08 | ImpyDroid | I mean the modern Republic |
22:06.12 | ImpyDroid | I played SWTOR hur |
22:06.43 | ImpyDroid | How is it going BTW? |
22:06.49 | Cyrannian | In that case, none for the entire Republic though different sectors like Kuat did field their own militaries under a certain limit |
22:08.14 | Wormy_away | ImpyDroid: http://imgur.com/gallery/zbD9yUh |
22:09.55 | ImpyDroid | Rite |
22:10.07 | Wormy_away | I really hope this is fake (gross) http://i.imgur.com/qv4lAlg.png |
22:10.58 | ImpyDroid | >so satan couldn't stick a dick in my ass and make me gay |
22:11.03 | ImpyDroid | That's brilliant |
22:13.10 | Wormy_away | i wanna believe http://imgur.com/gallery/1EWtX |
22:14.28 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/0upmtSS |
22:15.24 | ImpyDroid | This crow is clearly an agent of the West, acting like a decadent civilised European |
22:15.45 | ImpyDroid | No true Russian would do that |
22:16.01 | drom | implying it isn't russian to use cars as trashbins |
22:16.15 | Wormy_away | drom: http://imgur.com/gallery/3pSYcnT |
22:16.38 | Monet | Can't help noticing the number of posters confused for tihnking rice causes crows to explode. |
22:16.51 | drom | Wormy_away: he be dead |
22:17.46 | drom | ImpyDroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEllD4hziUY |
22:18.19 | Wormy_away | http://i.imgur.com/0DYxqCZ.jpg |
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22:18.31 | Quark8 | Hello. |
22:18.52 | ImpyDroid | drom: That's Dagestan for ya |
22:20.04 | drom | ImpyDroid: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ab_1377785135 |
22:20.53 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/DS5HbQF |
22:21.04 | Wormy_away | dayumn nature |
22:21.35 | Wormy_away | "Comments this good are rare. Don't take them for granite" |
22:23.51 | drom | I wish we could litter inside litters' cars. |
22:24.06 | drom | That'd painfully sweet karma |
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23:32.38 | Cyrannian | Hey Random |
23:33.06 | The_Randomness | ayy |