IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150617

00:00.11*** join/#sporewiki Monet (5770b232@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.112.178.50)
00:00.25Wormy_Monet:  Less than a minute
00:00.29HachiTopONE MINUTE
00:00.39MonetI'm watching
00:00.44Wormy_ONE HOUR
00:01.03HachiTopONE SECOND
00:01.09OluapPlayerONE DAY, ONE WEEK, ONE MONTH, ONE YEAR
00:01.37OluapPlayerWait what the fuck
00:01.46HachiTopWhat the fuck
00:01.56OluapPlayerDid they fucking delay it by an hour
00:02.22Wormy_yep
00:02.29OluapPlayerGoddamnit
00:02.32Wormy_Heh I cursed it
00:02.51OluapPlayerdangit wiggly
00:03.24HachiTopUgh I have fucking college tomorrow
00:03.45HachiTopYou cannot expect me to stay up so late to watch this
00:03.51HachiTopAt least I can get my homework done
00:04.04MonetNext E3 should be in New York.
00:04.16MonetThen we only have a five-hour difference
00:04.36Wormy_'murica
00:04.57Wormy_Oh well.  Call me back
00:05.04*** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8eb1b2b0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.177.178.176)
00:05.10DrodoEmpireHey everybody
00:05.14Wormy_STOhi
00:05.28Wormy_STOIf you came for the PC conference, seems its delayed 1 hour
00:08.41*** join/#sporewiki External (b8a66276@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.166.98.118)
00:09.36Externalhttps://youtu.be/zdh_CR42c2E?t=1m28s Isn't this guys english awwwweeesome?
00:11.32HachiTop>ajeel
00:11.43HachiTopFucking kill me
00:12.14ExternalYeah
00:12.24ExternalI don't think English is his first language
00:12.25DrodoEmpireI dunno if its fair to mock people because they have a shaky grasp of a language. :p
00:13.15ExternalYeah, I just wanted to share that.
00:13.42Wormy_STOOnly if you can't live up to speaking another language fluently jk
00:14.24External"Erm...what does naranjo mean?"
00:14.28DrodoEmpireAhh
00:14.44*** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@CPEbc140134be73-CMbc140134be70.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
00:15.23ExternalThat Prototype character is a little overpowered
00:15.49ExternalLike very overpowered
00:16.45MonetSo many people voting D o nthe questoion
00:18.25DrodoEmpireWho wants to do an RP? :p I wouldn't mind doing one with a few people.
00:18.49MonetExternal: Kinda reminds me of a Sporewiki supernatural lol
00:18.50External~test
00:18.50infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
00:19.04ExternalYeah.
00:20.43ExternalOf course, I don't think supernaturals can survive a FUCKING NUCLEAR EXPLOSION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dmu0E0p-7w
00:21.15External*https://youtu.be/3dmu0E0p-7w?t=7m
00:21.25MonetTyraaz once ate a nuclear cruise missile.
00:21.58HachiTopAye
00:22.00External...and regenerate their entire body from a CROW
00:22.56MonetWe've had supernaturals come back from less I think
00:32.05DrodoEmpiretest
00:34.03DrodoEmpireAnybody? Non-canon RP?
00:35.54HachiTopNot really, I have homework to do and I have college tomorrow
00:36.08DrodoEmpireAlright
00:37.07MonetI like these questions on the twitch stream
00:37.56MonetActually this gives me an idea. Sporewiki events quiz
00:38.35ExternalYou know, I bet that fictionverse drinking game would've attracted more people
00:39.11MonetExternal: We found that such a thing may cause hospitalisation due ot alcohol posioning
00:39.46ExternalYeah. But I guess it would've been fun
00:39.55MonetWe did try it
00:39.57ExternalSubstitute for alchohol?
00:40.02External*alcohol
00:40.34MonetWel lthere was plenty
00:40.55MonetWho'd be up for a Sporewiki quiz to pass the time? We can cycle quizmasters
00:41.45ExternalSure
00:41.49ExternalNothing to edit
00:42.05ExternalAnd I am listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkdl2eExHQ
00:42.09ExternalSO PLEASE
00:42.41MonetAny others interested?
00:42.48DrodoEmpireHmm
00:43.03DrodoEmpireGoing to be doing an RP, but I'll certainly try and juggle both. XD
00:44.01MonetOkay.
00:44.30MonetThosse who are participating pick three letters.
00:45.03ExternalA M, Z
00:45.22HachiTopI dunno about Sporewiki quizzes considering information is always up for retcon and edit
00:45.42DrodoEmpireD U and M
00:45.44DrodoEmpire:3
00:45.56MonetHachiTop: The quizzes could be old information too
00:46.36MonetRight then. Therefore the first topic will be....
00:46.59MonetHistory of the Milky Way.
00:48.51MonetQuestion One: What kind of structure is Station Halcyon? A) Stanford Torus, B) O'Niell Cylinder, C) Ringworld, D) Hollow Planet
00:49.14DrodoEmpireO'Niell Cylinder.
00:49.43MonetExternal?
00:49.57ExternalI don't know what that is, I will guess.
00:49.59Externalc
00:50.13MonetOne point to Drodo.
00:50.35Externalgg
00:50.56DrodoEmpirejumps around, blowing an airhorn before kicking External in the face
00:50.57Vincent20100I will play too :p
00:50.59DrodoEmpireFUCK YOU
00:51.02DrodoEmpireI'M A GOD
00:51.17Monet2) Name the five primary Milky Way Precursors.
00:51.22OluapPlayer9 MINUTES UNTIL PC GAMING SHOW hfor real this time
00:51.33DrodoEmpirestop dead in his tracks
00:51.36DrodoEmpireOh...
00:51.39DrodoEmpireUhh
00:51.39ExternalHmm...
00:51.54Externalerrrmmm
00:52.03External:|
00:52.04MonetIt doesn't have to be their true name but an acceptable alternate name is fine
00:52.10MonetOne point for each correct answer
00:52.15DrodoEmpireNeanderthals? I know they were around for a bit...
00:52.26MonetAlso Vincent yes you can play too
00:52.28ExternalCatharsis could be one...?
00:52.46ExternalI am brain dead
00:53.33ExternalAh, Draconians!
00:53.40Wormy_STOyes
00:53.42MonetI will provide the scores after five answers from each. "Pass" is an acceptable answer.
00:54.04Externalblows an airhorn in DrodoEmpires ear
00:54.10External"I OWND U"
00:54.24DrodoEmpireruns away and cries like a little bitch
00:54.25ExternalHmm...the Greys?
00:54.27Wormy_To be fair, Thals are Archaeohumanity
00:54.29DrodoEmpireD:>
00:54.38DrodoEmpireThe ayy lmaos
00:55.04Wormy_just not superadvanced
00:55.52Wormy_Gabe Newell right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXxOjOF8H8
00:56.38OluapPlayer4 MINUTES
00:57.03OluapPlayerValve claims they're not going to be at E3 this year
00:57.04MonetSHall I give out answers?
00:57.14ExternalWhat the hell
00:57.15OluapPlayerSo unless they make a surprise appearance, Gaben should be nowhere to be seen
00:57.42ExternalPlease Monet
00:58.10Vincent20100Monet: We need more questions :p
00:58.22MonetAtaien, Chitauri, Pseudomorphs, Ashtar and Greys
00:58.27MonetExternal gets two points
00:58.45ExternalMWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA
00:58.55MonetNext question.
00:59.11OluapPlayerONE MINUTE
00:59.16OluapPlayer*TWO
00:59.56Wormy_ONE HOUR
01:00.09OluapPlayerstop dis
01:00.09External^
01:00.11Vincent2010047 seconds. Do I win?
01:00.15ExternalAhh...
01:00.20Externalfreaking timing
01:00.38ExternalI win. Do I get a cash prize?
01:00.40MonetThe Marinox can trace their lineage to which planet? A) Earth B) Draka-2 C) Kingus D) Macronormus
01:00.59Vincent20100C?
01:01.01OluapPlayerIT BEGINS
01:01.06ExternalA, B, C, or D
01:01.10ExternalI pick A
01:01.29Wormy_Yes, in Zimbabwean dollars
01:01.42ExternalDamn.
01:01.56ExternalAt least I can convert them to U.S dollars...right?
01:02.16MonetEw Mountain Dew
01:02.39Wormy_Few billion to the dollar, yeah
01:03.10MonetThe answer is....
01:03.20MonetDraka-2
01:03.22ExternalAwesome
01:03.24OluapPlayerFUCKING MOUNTAIN DEW
01:03.26OluapPlayerWHERE'S DORITOS
01:03.37Externallol
01:03.41Wormy_They had hyperinflation you see
01:03.47ExternalWormy_: Who cares? I can buy some http://www.amazon.com/Zimbabwe-100-000-Dollar-Bill/dp/B00V8ABBEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434502934&sr=8-1&keywords=100+trillion+dollar+zimbabwe
01:03.49MonetNo one gets any points this round
01:04.10ExternalI still win
01:04.14External:)
01:07.22Monet3) What group activated the Xhodocto Monolith?  A) Samariatans  B) Zulu  C) Goa'uld  D) Kei'un
01:07.42Vincent20100D?
01:08.10Wormy_Now there are shitting Mario's in the comments
01:09.57ExternalD
01:09.59ExternalDDDD
01:10.30MonetExternal: I'm waiting for other answers
01:11.03DrodoEmpireI thought it was the Aztecs. :p
01:11.03Vincent20100External: You want the D? o.O
01:11.47MonetDrodoEMpire: Alright We'll add E) Aztecs
01:11.52ExternalScrew you. >:(
01:12.00MonetBecause Aztecs are psychos like that
01:12.45DrodoEmpireEh they weren't psychopathic. No more so than the Europeans
01:12.57MonetAnyway the answer is D
01:13.05External:D
01:13.06Wormy_Their mythology fits.
01:13.29MonetPoints to External and VIncent
01:14.02Externalpunches Vincent20100 and DrodoEmpire
01:14.05ExternalI WIN STILL
01:14.52Wormy_#pcmasterrace
01:15.29External^
01:15.34Vincent20100^
01:15.37Monet4) Where on Earth was the central operations centre for the Draconid Imperiumlocated ?   A) The Alps, B) Mount Kilamanjairo  C) New York CIty D) Tokyo  E) Cornwall
01:15.52Wormy_GAMING SCIENTIST
01:16.08Wormy_two best things ever in one job
01:16.19ExternalE. Definitely E
01:16.19DrodoEmpireAlps.
01:16.45Wormy_A or E
01:17.07MonetWormy_: I need one answer
01:17.10Wormy_Whether or not its central in one or other I can't remember
01:17.16Wormy_I'll go for A
01:17.19DrodoEmpireWait
01:17.29DrodoEmpireWhat happens if we're both correct?
01:17.34DrodoEmpire(We both guessed Alps)
01:17.38DrodoEmpireShare points?
01:17.42MonetDrodoEmpire: You both get oen point
01:17.46DrodoEmpireAh
01:17.47Wormy_You said it first tho
01:17.56DrodoEmpireNah its fine
01:18.10TekDroidO.o Apparently I've been playing Skyrim on my terrible integrated graphics.
01:18.28DrodoEmpireGet a better graphics card kid
01:18.30DrodoEmpire>:3
01:18.42MonetVincent?
01:18.51TekDroidI do. O.o I can't change to it.
01:19.05ExternalTekDroid: Death to outdated graphics drivers!
01:19.41MonetThe answer is.....A, the Alps. Point each to Drodo and Wormy
01:20.07DrodoEmpireshakes Wormy, screaming and crying, before hugging him tightly
01:20.18Wormy_There was a base in Victorian England I remember, but i didn't think it was *central*.
01:20.41MonetWormy_: There was a satellite outpost under the Ridgeway
01:23.13Wormy_Ah
01:23.26Wormy_You know there are people I know who have met dragons there
01:23.43Wormy_and all sorts of insane things
01:23.44ExternalDragons
01:23.47Monet5) What event occured shortly after Princess Maryah hatched? A) Nothing B) Draka-2 was destroyed by demons  C) Koluap temporarily died   D) The Loron invaded Draka-2  E) Koluap got married
01:24.12Wormy_Sleep out in the open on the Ridgeway, and you'll regret it
01:24.32DrodoEmpireJet fuel began to melt steel beams
01:24.32Wormy_Alternativewly they might have been high
01:24.38ExternalI would have to guess....E or B
01:24.49DrodoEmpireFinal answer
01:24.57ExternalWormy_: But seriously....DRAGONS?!
01:25.05MonetDrodoEmpire: I'm not creating a sixth option for you
01:25.08Wormy_Well, a Wyrm
01:25.26DrodoEmpireOh okay
01:25.45DrodoEmpire[22:23] <Monet> 5) What event occured shortly after Princess Maryah hatched? A) Nothing B) Draka-2 was destroyed by demons  C) Koluap temporarily died   D) The Loron invaded Draka-2  E) Koluap got married F) Jet fuel began to melt steel beams
01:25.51DrodoEmpireI added it myself. :3
01:25.58ExternalSmartass.
01:26.05Monet~slap DrodoEmpire
01:26.06infobotACTION slaps DrodoEmpire, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
01:26.21MonetWormy_: An event like that so crazy, is it that out of the question?
01:26.25DrodoEmpirelooks at Monet, offended.
01:26.50MonetI'm holding the number of options to five
01:27.02Wormy_they deny being high, but its funny how they effect your memory lol
01:27.06DrodoEmpireI'm holding it to six.
01:27.29MonetI'm the one asking the question though
01:27.39MonetYou have five options.
01:27.51Wormy_B]
01:28.08DrodoEmpireOkay
01:28.32DrodoEmpire[22:23] <Monet> 5) What event occured shortly after Princess Maryah hatched? A) Nothing B) Draka-2 was destroyed by demons  C) Koluap temporarily died   D) The Loron invaded Draka-2  E) Jet Fuel began to melt steel beams
01:28.35DrodoEmpireE.
01:29.03Externaldrags DrodoEmpire to the bottom of the sea
01:29.09MonetMy IRC client allows me to see all conversation entries fro mwhen I joined
01:29.11Wormy_steel beams melt jet fuel
01:29.25HachimanI am gonna go with E
01:29.31DrodoEmpire~slap Wormy_
01:29.31infobotACTION slaps Wormy_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
01:29.43MonetExternal: Your final answer?
01:29.57DrodoEmpiredrowns, and dies. So much for DrodoEmpire.
01:30.06ExternalB
01:30.33MonetThe answer is....
01:30.36MonetB
01:30.40External:DDDDD
01:30.51DrodoEmpireshakes his head angrily.
01:31.04MonetExternal gets the point.
01:31.14Monetoluap doesn't marry Windey until some time later.
01:32.11Wormy_Drodo:  Total War now has mythical creatures.
01:32.12MonetKoluap*
01:32.27DrodoEmpireWormy: Yeah Warhammer Total War is gonna be awesome shit
01:32.32Wormy_mwah hah hah
01:32.43DrodoEmpire*Perfect* series for Warhammer
01:32.48HachimanFUCKING
01:32.50HachimanTOTAL WARHAMMER
01:32.56HachimanYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
01:33.06DrodoEmpireAnd considering Attila was a solid title, I have some confidence
01:33.12DrodoEmpireIts so fucking awesome
01:33.14DrodoEmpireXD
01:33.14MonetWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHAMMER
01:33.34ExternalI never played Warhammer.
01:33.38ExternalSeems like I should try it
01:33.47DrodoEmpireHave you played Total War?
01:33.53HachimanWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
01:35.04Wormy_ʷᵃʳᵍʰ
01:35.14ExternalDidn't expect that
01:35.38Monet*Imperial March plays*
01:37.28ExternalMonet: Nope. Still listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOkdl2eExHQ
01:37.33ExternalI don't know why though
01:38.24Vincent20100External: I prefer this personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBiBlB-OwCY&index=1&list=WL
01:38.42HachimanKILLER INSTINCT
01:38.48HachimanCONFIRMED FOR PC
01:38.55ExternalI finally found the Nathierm Imperiums music....
01:39.03ExternalAND IT WAS DESTROYED IN 2808
01:39.07External;-;
01:39.39Monet6) What cataclysm preceeded Womulus II's unification of Mirenton  A) Nuclear War   B) The rise of Communism  C) Resource wars   D) Extraterrestrial contact   E) A shortage of pies
01:39.42DrodoEmpirepoints and laughs
01:40.00ExternalE
01:40.05ExternalObviously E
01:40.10DrodoEmpireTupac was shot.
01:40.16ExternalRight Wormy_?
01:40.30ExternalBut seriously, C
01:40.41DrodoEmpireWatch it be E.
01:40.54Vincent20100A?
01:41.03Wormy_not Answering
01:41.30ExternalWormy_: BUT IT WAS E RITE
01:41.31HachimanIt's gotta be F) CoD: Ghosts confirmed for dog companion
01:41.36DrodoEmpire^
01:41.37External^
01:41.46ExternalI agree with Hachiman
01:41.58MonetThe answer is...
01:42.01MonetA
01:42.04Vincent20100Yay!
01:42.07HachimanAww man
01:42.10HachimanWho would have thought
01:42.13DrodoEmpireflips the table; "FUCK ME!"
01:42.20Vincent20100Yah
01:42.24Vincent20100Fuck you :p
01:42.35MonetVince gets a point
01:42.35DrodoEmpireThat's what I asid
01:42.40DrodoEmpire:)
01:42.49Vincent20100take his point and waves it in everybody's face ^^
01:43.45Externalget tired, says "FUCK YOU ALL", pulls out a tommy gun, and shoots at DrodoEmpire and *especially* Vincent20100
01:43.53External>:(
01:44.12Vincent20100still hold firm grasp on his point :p
01:44.14DrodoEmpiretakes off his kevlar vest, and yells "AHA!"
01:44.26Externalis outsmarted
01:44.43Externalshoots DrodoEmpire one more time as he is exposed
01:44.51External"Tag, you're it!"
01:45.19Monet7) Which of the Corrutpus Dark Five laid waste to the Milky Way? A) Laidar  B) Eleilord  C) Okastana  D) Gobongogon  E) Kolossus
01:45.26DrodoEmpirecollapses, cursing under his breath
01:45.37MonetEleielord, sorry
01:45.38ExternalI would say E, but Kolossus is not a Corruptus
01:45.47ExternalI odn't think so anyways
01:46.04DrodoEmpireF) Mussolini
01:46.10Vincent20100A?
01:46.20ExternalE
01:46.21DrodoEmpireHitler
01:46.28ExternalDark "five"
01:46.39DrodoEmpireChingghis Khan
01:46.42ExternalG) Osama Bin Laden
01:46.50MonetYes
01:46.56ExternalYUS
01:46.58MonetOsama Bin Laden is a corruptus demon
01:47.07DrodoEmpireDark EIGHT, Monet
01:47.16DrodoEmpireCheck your facts
01:47.22MonetBut no the real answer is A: Laidar.
01:47.30DrodoEmpireSo picky.
01:47.49ExternalWait, but what about Kolossus? (Who I am not even sure is a Corruptus)
01:48.04HachimanHe "was" a Corruptus
01:48.05MonetHe was one of the original Dark Five
01:48.49MonetVince gets a point
01:49.20ExternalDON'T...
01:49.26Vincent20100BAM!
01:49.30ExternalFUK
01:49.43Vincent20100get his pants down and put his ass on the face of Drodo and External!
01:49.51Vincent20100»Eat it!
01:49.58DrodoEmpireturns away, confused.
01:50.02DrodoEmpireAhem.
01:50.11DrodoEmpireNo.
01:50.47OluapPlayerKolossus is a Corruptus demon, but his target was Ottzello and not the Milky Way
01:51.09Externaltakes out a gun, and shoots Vincent 12 times in the head
01:51.17Externaltake dat ya stupid vincent
01:51.24External>::(
01:51.34MonetValkyrie time!
01:52.56MonetHe's doing much better than when I tried it
01:53.30MonetI had no clue where it was going for half of the match.
01:54.51DrodoEmpirechecks to see if External has a license for all of these guns
01:55.12Externalbacks slowly away and pulls out another gun, and duel wields with another
01:55.17External>:)
01:55.25ExternalMagic satchel.
01:55.29DrodoEmpireI guess not.
01:55.47Hachiman>dual wield
01:55.53HachimanGood luck shooting ANYTHING
01:55.57Externalhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_satchel
01:56.01HachimanAnd not breaking your wrists
01:56.04DrodoEmpireHachi: YES.
01:56.12MonetQuestion 8: A particular military engagement between the Drakodominatus Tyranny and DCP resulted in what?  A) Everyone turning into cheese  B) The destruction of five minor empries at once  C) A rift in the fabric of hyperspace  D) The aftermath of the LEZIAPETSSHIT   E) Medusa throwing up i nsadness
01:56.13ExternalJust shoot in random directions. I have to hit something.
01:56.22DrodoEmpireYou hold one pistol, firmly, with two hands.
01:56.31DrodoEmpireNope. You'd be surprised.
01:56.41Vincent20100Monet: LEZIAPETSSHIT...
01:56.43DrodoEmpireShooting guns is a tough business. *Especially* pistols. XD
01:56.44Vincent20100-_-
01:56.45HachimanGuns are surprisingly difficult to handle
01:56.47ExternalDamn. Outsmarted.
01:56.56ExternalD
01:56.57DrodoEmpireHachi: oh yeah
01:56.59ExternalNO A
01:56.59Vincent20100C?
01:57.04MonetVincent20100: A genuine Tyranny superwepaon
01:57.27DrodoEmpireI've only really handled pretty small guns, but aiming down a six-shooter (or any pistol) is pretty difficult.
01:57.50ExternalUltimate weapon of destruction. The vehicle it's mounted on (The Tiamat) is fairly terrible though.
01:58.08ExternalA tiny, 22 pistol then
01:58.08DrodoEmpireThe sights don't just *line up* as with a long-gun. :p Takes a steady hand
01:58.36DrodoEmpirePrinciple is the same... :p
01:59.07MonetION time
01:59.59DrodoEmpireAssuming you're even right/
02:00.43MonetThe answer is...
02:00.48MonetC
02:00.54MonetPoint to Vincent
02:01.11ExternalVincent20100: Imagine...."WE'LL BLOW YOU UP WITH OUR LEZIASPETSSHIT! DON'T MAKE US DO IT!"
02:01.33MonetAnd that is the end of the round
02:01.59ExternalI still win.
02:02.01HachimanA round on me lad
02:02.20Hachimanlads even
02:03.32MonetTallying the scores
02:03.45MonetVInce and external tie with 4 points
02:03.55External>:)
02:04.01DrodoEmpireI win, of course
02:04.12MonetDrodo: You only got two points
02:04.17Externalgets all up in Vincent20100s face and slaps him repeatedly
02:04.22MonetSo we have a tiebreaker
02:05.02DrodoEmpireApparently you missed my brilliant answers elsewhere
02:05.42ExternalNice try..
02:06.03DrodoEmpireWell yes it was considering I won
02:06.07DrodoEmpireQuite a nice try really
02:06.41ExternalThis would be a nice music for the machine apocalypse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OTsAUXrEBI&list=PLD5994077BEB484D9
02:06.48ExternalBackground music anyways
02:06.51MonetVIncent20100 External The tiebreaker question is thus: Laurenne Maxime lost her life to what?   A) Rocks  B) A missile  C) angry baguette-wielding protestors  D) Coalition supersoldiers  E) A transporter malfunction
02:07.19ExternalHmm....
02:07.19DrodoEmpireC.
02:07.59ExternalB or E
02:08.05ExternalRoll a dice.
02:08.09HachimanDying to a transporter malfunction must be horrifying
02:08.16DrodoEmpire^
02:08.31ExternalB
02:08.35DrodoEmpireDepends on the nature of the malfunction what the victim sense I guess
02:08.36Wormy_C
02:08.44DrodoEmpire*senses
02:08.53ExternalD
02:09.04MonetExternal: Pick one
02:09.05Wormy_They used the baguette to capture her then put her on the gullotine
02:09.06DrodoEmpireIf you teleport into a wall, then... Yeah that'd be horrific, and probably painful
02:09.16ExternalD
02:09.22External*Probably*
02:09.45HachimanImagine getting teleported inside-out
02:09.46ExternalI believe your insides would be mixed with the wall, as well as (maybe) tearing you in half
02:09.58Vincent20100Back!
02:10.02Vincent20100Monet give me a sec
02:10.06Vincent20100I was watching tv
02:10.13Vincent20100What's the question?
02:10.33Monet[03:06] <Monet> VIncent20100 External The tiebreaker question is thus: Laurenne Maxime lost her life to what?   A) Rocks  B) A missile  C) angry baguette-wielding protestors  D) Coalition supersoldiers  E) A transporter malfunction
02:10.34Vincent20100C, by a missile
02:10.34Wormy_the worst transporter malfunction would be complete mass to energy conversion
02:10.36DrodoEmpireHachi: Yeah...
02:10.49MonetVIncent20100: Missile is B
02:10.53DrodoEmpireThat'd be disgusting
02:10.55ExternalB
02:10.58ExternalD
02:11.00External;-;
02:11.13ExternalD
02:11.17ExternalI choose D
02:11.22MonetThe answer is B. She died when a missile fro mthe surface accidentally collided with her shuttle.
02:11.23ExternalFinal answer
02:11.27ExternalFUUUUUUUU
02:11.29Vincent20100Missile B
02:11.30DrodoEmpireAnd honestly teleportation raises too many moral questions; And I feel that the new copy of you elsewhere would not have you... I dunno, your consciousness.
02:11.52Wormy_I would have agreed with you once but now I'm no so sure
02:11.55MonetVincent is the winner of the round
02:12.01Vincent20100I don't like teleportation. It kinda break tge point of ships
02:12.04Vincent20100YAY!
02:12.08DrodoEmpireNot actually
02:12.17ExternalHold on...
02:12.18DrodoEmpireIts electrically taxing and have distance limits
02:12.38External"With DCP troops within striking distance of French territory, Maxime attempted to flee the capital, only to be accidentally shot down by elements of the Karone National Guard which were under command of the Parliamentarians."
02:12.48ExternalCharles_Murray: EXPLAIN THIS MADNESS
02:12.49DrodoEmpire?
02:12.51DrodoEmpireNo
02:12.59DrodoEmpireThat isn't the explanation
02:13.06Wormy_The thing I don't get about teleportation in sci-fi - its the ultimate weapon on an unshielded ship
02:13.16DrodoEmpireLike it'd be *you*, externally, they'd behave like you, and think like you and look like you, but I still don't know if *you*, your consciousness, would be inside
02:13.21Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Laurene_Maxime
02:13.40MonetEveryone pick three letters
02:13.40DrodoEmpireAnd it'd be just a very good impersonator, and not... Its hard to say
02:13.56ExternalI still win.
02:14.13ExternalWhat is the difference between Vincent201000 and Comrade_Vinny?
02:14.17ExternalABCD
02:14.18DrodoEmpireYou get what I mean, I think
02:14.19External*ABC
02:14.31Wormy_DrodoEmpire:I'll state the reason why I think that conclusion is either wrong.  Or irrelevent.
02:14.44DrodoEmpireAlright/
02:14.56DrodoEmpireI'm utterly uncertain myself so I'd like to hear your opinion
02:14.59Wormy_Thats not to argue btw, I just have a different perspective now on determinism
02:15.09HachimanGAY
02:15.15DrodoEmpireKYS
02:15.17ExternalBrb
02:15.18DrodoEmpire:3
02:15.25Comrade_VinnyMonet: KGB
02:15.30DrodoEmpireKKK
02:15.55Comrade_VinnyExternal Comrade_Vinny is when I'm doing commies' stuff :P
02:16.42Externalo
02:16.46HachimanAye KK
02:16.48MonetThe next topic is therefore....
02:16.50HachimanKKK even]
02:16.53MonetThe ANdromeda War
02:17.04Wormy_If the copy was an exact physical copy, down to the last patterns in the brain, I would say that it doesn't what time sits between the teleportation.  The transferred copy perhaps is you by any definition.  This is not so weird when you picture time rather than a now that moves, to a discrete collection of nows all coexisting.  Most of modern physics does away with the flow of time
02:17.41DrodoEmpireHuh...
02:18.12Wormy_Indeed it calls into question whether every now we can define is either a copy, or whether saying that is isn't really relevant
02:18.13DrodoEmpireYeah... Still
02:18.30ExternalWhat would you rather do, spend a month facing your worst phobias, or send an hour with a Stalin-era KGB interrogator?
02:18.34Wormy_I don't think the copy has to be exact either...  Given that we change a little in life.
02:19.01Wormy_Perhaps there is a phase space of definable "me's"
02:19.13Wormy_rather than a point
02:19.14Comrade_VinnyProbably the KGB dude.
02:19.21DrodoEmpireBut I dunno... Its hard to describe, but I feel it still wouldn't be you as in your consciousness. Whose to say your "soul" terminates, and a different consciousness, similar but not the same, takes over the teleported "copy"?
02:19.49DrodoEmpireSo "you" have died, but an exact copy takes over while your consciousness... Floats in oblivion, or goes to an afterlife of some sort
02:19.53DrodoEmpireI dunno
02:20.17Wormy_Your "soul" is an abstraction.  Now I am a little biased by physicalism / realism and platonism, but perhaps your abstrat "I" is embedded by a certain set of of physical patterns
02:20.20DrodoEmpireI guess we'd have to know what happens after death in order to really formulate what happens in the event of teleportation
02:20.47ExternalWhat are you talking about?
02:21.05DrodoEmpireI'm really not sure. I'm a very scientific person, and a staunch atheist. But I can't dismiss the concept of consciousness, or a so-called "soul" entirely.
02:21.16DrodoEmpireI'm not a philosopher so maybe I cannoy say
02:21.23DrodoEmpire*cannot
02:21.49DrodoEmpireAnyhow
02:21.54DrodoEmpireI do hope your right
02:21.54Wormy_I'm thinking about this from the role of time in physics
02:22.18Wormy_Here I'll show you a link that describes it better than I ever could
02:22.25DrodoEmpireI'd rather not be instantly killed when I have to use a teleporter, and let a "computer player" of sorts live the rest of my life. XD
02:22.31Wormy_http://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/wp-content/DiscreteAndContinuous.html
02:22.45DrodoEmpireAnyhow
02:22.47Wormy_And he's a genuine physicist
02:22.53DrodoEmpireWorst phobias or interrogator
02:22.55DrodoEmpireDepends
02:23.21DrodoEmpireWhat happens after the interrogation? Why am I being interrogated? Is there a risk of punishment afterwards?
02:23.47DrodoEmpireOr is he just using the textbook techniques because I wanted to know what its like? :p
02:23.58Externalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T270UC0WPBU&list=PLD5994077BEB484D9&index=5 "Level Up!"
02:23.58DrodoEmpire(Which I don't by the way)
02:24.23Comrade_VinnyDrodoEmpire: I prefer the drowning simulation.
02:24.26ExternalI can't explain.
02:25.10DrodoEmpireI dunno what exactly my fears and phobias are, but I'm sure a whole month of them would either drive me mad or make me literally fearless. :p
02:25.46DrodoEmpireNot a bet I'm taking. Hour with KGB dude seems like it'dbe mighty unpleasant but last a lot shorter of a time
02:27.03Comrade_VinnyWhat if I'm a KGB undercover agent?
02:27.04Wormy_I'll conclude my view in summary:  But essentially if time is either discrete (chunky) or continuous, the teleporter argument has frightening implicastions for both imo.  Either its irrelevant, i.e. doesn't really matter (and so teleportation copying doesn't matter), or that it is true, but every "now" we experience is a a different version of us or our "soul", if you will
02:27.25DrodoEmpire:L
02:27.28MonetCOmrade_VInny: The KGB has been dead for at most 25 years
02:27.51DrodoEmpireRight...
02:27.58Comrade_VinnyThat's what they want you to think!
02:28.02DrodoEmpireI'll take a shuttle. :p
02:28.28Wormy_I think I would still take the shuttle
02:29.01DrodoEmpireYeah the risk just seems stupid-big for such a trivial convienience.
02:29.10Wormy_Of course, if the teleporter was actually a "transport beam", then we are just sent through a man size wormhole in tact
02:29.23DrodoEmpire^
02:29.28DrodoEmpireI'd like that. XD
02:29.42Wormy_I think Sporewikian teleporters really work like that
02:29.49MonetComrade_Vinny_: Well Russia is a federation now. Not a sovereign state
02:30.13DrodoEmpireIts like every time you drive a car you have a 50/50 chance of the dashboard exploding and killing you. :p
02:30.18Wormy_Quantum mechanics and indeed the time it would take to reconstitute youy and simulate you accurately would take longer than the universe's age
02:30.19DrodoEmpire(for a teleporter)
02:30.29MonetSo "Committee for State Security" is sliiightly iaccurate
02:30.51Wormy_Also Star Trekkian teleporters would make a weapon that is far too easy lol
02:31.06Wormy_Drop shields > beam crew out into space
02:31.18Wormy_Or beam the engines out or something
02:31.29DrodoEmpireWell the thing is that it takes time to beam a large number of people
02:31.32MonetHaven't there been characters assassinated using malfunctioning teleporters?
02:31.42DrodoEmpireAnd transporters are *notoriously* finicky and unreliable in ST
02:31.44MonetIn Star Trek
02:32.07Wormy_Thats to cover up the plot holes they create
02:32.13Wormy_anyway, goodnight
02:32.15DrodoEmpireIf the winds aren't blowing right, then they're strategically and tactically useless.
02:32.18DrodoEmpire:p
02:32.30DrodoEmpireSuspension of Disbelief, and goodnight.
02:32.40MonetGoodnight
02:33.11MonetThat R9 Nano is indeed small
02:33.22DrodoEmpireHm?
02:33.27MonetThis is Moore's law i neffect
02:33.31MonetDrodo: The Stream
02:33.59DrodoEmpireAhh
02:35.57Monet...Dual cards
02:36.14MonetThat's some high fidelity
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02:36.33ExternalThis is not the best video for children: https://youtu.be/r6PIC46uxx0
02:39.17DrodoEmpiretest
02:46.55MonetThis quiz was fun
02:47.09DrodoEmpireYeah
02:47.30MonetWe should try it again later
03:02.20ExternalGonna play Prototype
03:02.23Externalbai
03:24.54MonetWow
03:25.02MonetModeratiors have actually come down on the chat
03:25.14DrodoEmpireHm?
03:25.32MonetYeah its hard to see but some people tried asking for the spam to stop
03:25.37MonetSOme seem to be mocking the mthough
03:29.27MonetIts like Oluap said
03:29.31MonetTwitch chat is cancer
03:29.56MonetIts all idiots wanting to say something funny
03:31.04DrodoEmpire:p
03:31.07DrodoEmpireBasically
03:32.20MonetI feel sorry for anyone with moderator status o nthere
03:33.07MonetIts like trying ot hold back a tsunami of poo with just your hands.
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10:18.29GhelaeHello.
10:21.39CyrannianHey there
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10:30.09Wormy_hi
10:30.13GhelaeHello.
10:44.18Liquid_InkIf Earth was (or is, it's still pretty obscure) supposedly abandoned in the sporewikiverse, how do the space Muslims (and there are space muslims) do their pilgramige to Mecca?
10:44.52Wormy_Space Mecca
10:44.59GhelaeIt's not completely abandoned; I'm sure holy sites are still maintained.
10:45.56GhelaeOne problem might be if the number of Muslims has increased significantly between 2015 and 2800... you might have trillions wanting to visit Mecca every year.
10:46.08Wormy_Earth now has been recolonised after the Thal and TDP invasion
10:46.38Wormy_Though an artificial Ice Age has covered the planet
10:47.05Cyrannian"Space Mecca" I lol'd
10:48.11Wormy_An alternative is that sites of interest were lifted from the Earth, rock and all.  Whether that is good enough to lift off a holy value is in the minds of the spiritual
10:48.55GhelaeIt would be even worse for the Muslims of Orion's Arm: I don't think they could even visit Earth (especially ones tens of thousands of light years away from Earth and hundreds from the nearest wormhole with no other FTL, although they can at least live for an extremely long time), and even if they could I Mecca wouldn't still be there.
10:49.41Wormy_I thought a snall group of pilgrims were allowed to walk on Earth in a controlled tour from the AI goddess
10:50.10Wormy_But yes the Nanoplague destroyed much of its surface
10:51.31GhelaeJust reading up, yes, it looks like they can visit that part of the Earth, which was preserved.
10:53.58GhelaeBut it looks like they also consider Gaia to be satanic, so had Mecca not been available that could well have influenced their religion in such a way to justify it. No such events happened in the SporeWikiverse that could have had such an impact, not least with only a few hundred years rather than nearly ten thousand having passed.
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10:55.20Wormy_Yay, a reference to Wales in the flag http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/54d29022c24b1
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11:15.40Wormy_Johnathan Frakes does this as well http://imgur.com/gallery/y01fk
11:17.20Liquid_Inkhttps://33.media.tumblr.com/a78748b012391558913bd8133628a373/tumblr_npwjqur6B91qj6sk2o1_500.gif He needs to pull that face in order to aim properly.
11:20.06Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhAiKTIWTWg
11:20.07Wormy_lol
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11:42.50Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Species#Inner_Rim - Finished the Inner Rim
11:44.06OluapPlayerI noticed
11:45.07OluapPlayerwaptor doin gud
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11:51.32Wormy_hi
11:52.10MonetHi
11:53.02MonetWormy_: The cutscenes for Endless Legend weren't kidding about Auriga dying.
11:53.39Wormy_interesting
11:53.46MonetBasically every few turns or so the game enters a winter period for a few turns that severely hits all material production.
11:54.11MonetAs a game progresses, the winter period hits sooner and lasts longer.
11:55.19MonetEventually the world is plunged into eternal winter.
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12:06.07Wormy_I know it has sesimnic disturbances as well
12:06.31Wormy_Monet:  Remember that bug that turned the Minecraft server into an ice age?
12:07.01MonetI remember
12:07.24MonetI remember we tried many things to clear the ice that had surrounded the port of my city
12:11.31MonetALso the game's beginning coincides with several strange events
12:12.07MonetThe Drakken for instance began giving birth to the wingless Drakkenlings
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12:15.45JepardiHi
12:15.48MonetHi
12:29.01Wormy_I might have to get Endless Legand
12:30.22MonetIts an intriguing game
12:30.45MonetIt presents one facet of empire building that I haven't seen elsewhere: Natives and auxillaries
12:31.34MonetYou can pacify native settlements in each region, and can assimilate them to use their units in your armies.
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12:33.55Wormy_Thats clever
12:34.06MonetCivilisation V has a city state system but its nowhere near this extensive
12:34.31Wormy_its also historical
12:35.00Wormy_But can the settlements rebel, like in the fall of Western Rome?
12:35.16MonetNot that i've seen.
12:35.36MonetOnce you pacify them - either diplomatically or by force - they stay that way
12:36.59Monetdiplomatic pacification involves a mission, military pacification involves attacking the village and rebuilding it.
12:41.01MonetA shame that when you conquer an enemy empire's city it becomes like yours.
12:41.14Wormy_yeah
12:42.03MonetCould have been interesting to have Forgotten Lords soldiers (I do like them somewhat) marching alongside Argent Mage auxillaries
12:42.17Wormy_It could make a good game though couldn't it?  Rallying barbarians to your cause, but having to keep them happy
12:43.06MonetIts an interesting idea yeah
12:43.30MonetBuidling an emprei i nreall life is horrendously difficult
12:45.02MonetBritain was able to control India because it established a loyal viceroyalty to do all the management for it.
12:45.09Wormy_Empires just outside DCP territories often get bullied to comply
12:45.44Wormy_Some perhaps forced to send forces lol
12:46.29MonetSo those minor empires that aren't part of the DCP still get bullied into submission?
12:46.50Wormy_If you are a tiny Tier 4 empire within light years of their space, you are better off doing what they want
12:47.01Wormy_Well remember what happened the Empire of Holloway
12:47.23MonetSort-of
12:47.54Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Empire_of_Halloway
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12:49.04MonetSo I take it the Empire refused to comply.
12:49.06MonetHi
12:49.18Vincent20100Hey!
12:49.22Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets#Transmission_from_the_EoH
12:50.05Wormy_The DCP didn't like being called pranksters
12:51.25Monet“How can we be sure these are your territories? The DCP could have sent a star-map showing it was historically their space.
12:51.36Wormy_They bombed every capital city instead
12:51.47Wormy_as punishment
12:52.24GhelaeIf they sent a star map the EoH may have simply declared it to be fake.
12:52.58Wormy_lol
12:53.21Wormy_I think the DCP had probably had decades of annoyance
12:54.51Wormy_They could have kindly scooped up the colony but that just isn't their way
12:55.20Wormy_The DCP needed to show the universe it was back
12:55.46MonetIt was certainly an efective display
12:55.50MonetAn intriguing one two
12:56.41MonetThey come back from saving the universe and the first thing they do is harass a rising power using widespread orbital bombardment.
12:58.04Wormy_I suppose they are a bit schizophrenic like that.
12:58.37MonetNot really
12:59.28MonetSuch activity is fairly common
13:00.05Wormy_The thing about the DCP is that it has a nature of its own, it can be erratic because its so large
13:00.35Wormy_its now a runaway train
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13:00.40JepardiHi
13:00.44Wormy_ironic really
13:00.47Wormy_hi
13:02.12MonetDuring the Cold War the United States had a habit of providing aid money to countries that wanted ot be capitalist (like Japan) but often used subversive tactics (such as backing the US-friendly autarch of Iran) to maintain itself as top dog
13:03.12Wormy_indeed
13:03.46Wormy_I think the world is a blooming runaway train
13:04.05MonetWhen the USSR tried to annex Afghanistan, the United States provided money and weapons to the emergent Taliban.
13:04.16Wormy_There's no secret society at the top.  They all failed
13:04.59OluapPlayerThat's what they want you to believe
13:05.01OluapPlayerdun dun dun
13:05.33Wormy_Its taking them a long time to exterminate 90% of the population
13:05.54MonetPeople rationalise secret societies ot explain why the world is so divided and so hellish.
13:06.20MonetTruth is it always has been. We didn't need some shadowy subversive power to do that.
13:07.15Wormy_Countries and economies have tried to create order and sold us dreams of order, but its a giant collective myth
13:10.15MonetThe rich in America tried to take advantage of the emerging dreams of Capitalism in Asia. But the result was one of history's great market collapses.
13:14.14MonetA group that really was fully knowledgeable of the economic systems of the world would surely have known that the faster an economic bubble expands, the more devestating the effects hwen it bursts.
13:14.45CyrannianOluapPlayer: Did you see this? The appearance of Spinosaurus based on new fossil evidence http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/09/12/science/12dino-1/12dino-1-articleLarge.jpg
13:15.01OluapPlayerI did
13:15.19OluapPlayerThat's using a mash-up of various Spinosaurid species, it's not a single species
13:15.25OluapPlayerTherefore it's invalid
13:15.51GhelaeI remember there being a discussion about it on here a few weeks ago. Somebody - I can't remember who - came online and was rather unhappy about it.
13:16.13OluapPlayerThey got some bones from smaller species, put them in and started "assuming" Spinosaurus was like that
13:16.14Wormy_still looks badarse to me
13:18.16OluapPlayerIt would look cool were it not for the manlet legs
13:18.20Liquid_InkI was under the impression quadrapedal Spinosaurus had fallen out of shasion.
13:18.24Liquid_Ink*fashion
13:18.47CyrannianIt has been accepted by most palaeontologists as valid though and the previous version was based on far less evidence, simply superimposing some skull and fin fragments on the classic theropod posture
13:19.03OluapPlayerThey're really fucking dumb then
13:19.32OluapPlayerYou could do the same with say, get some bear bones from various races, put them together and claim prehistoric bears looked like that based on assumptions
13:20.09MonetIf we had DNA evidence palaeontology would be a lot easier.
13:20.36OluapPlayerThis is not valid until they find actual Spinosaurus aegyptiacus bones of that size
13:21.06MonetUnfortunately the fossilisation process tends to destroy DNA.
13:21.59Wormy_The new Spinosaurus aegyptiacus however, appears to shed light on the possibility it was evolving to become a marine dinosaur, much like how Whales evolved.
13:22.18Wormy_unfortunately its journey was cut short
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13:23.46MonetWe can get the genomes of mammoths, neanderthals and sabre-tooth cats because the bones we find are still bones. And in the case of mammoths and sabretooths we have frozen specimen
13:24.35MonetIIRC uncovered dinosaur bones are usually closer in composition to rock than actual bone.
13:24.42Wormy_bbl
13:25.08GhelaeThey are rock. That's what fossilisation is. Although it does seem that some traces of soft tissue have been discovered inside fossils.
13:25.53GhelaeAlthough I don't think having S. aegypticus DNA would make it particularly easier to determine its leg size.
13:26.30MonetIt took decades to map the human genome and we're still years away fro mknowing what every known gene does.
13:26.37Ghelaeaegyptiacus*
13:26.46CyrannianThe new reconstruction is a hypothesis, yes and we won't know for certain until we find a complete skeleton. Though since part of the leg bone was discovered, the reconstruction is more accurate than previous depictions of it
13:28.04OluapPlayermy spino is at least one t-rex large, thx
13:28.08Cyrannianhttp://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/files/2014/09/spinosaurus-reconstruction.jpg - The bones coloured red are the ones that were found recently while I assume the other ones are from earlier samples or guesses based on other species
13:28.27MonetA complete skeleto nis always idea
13:28.31Monetideal
13:29.03OluapPlayerThat thing looks incredibly clumsy
13:29.12OluapPlayerLike it would waddle from side to side while walking
13:29.13MonetBut like everything its also the most elusive as it requires every one of hundreds of bones to fossilise correctly.
13:30.12CyrannianIt was mostly aquatic so it probably didn't spend too much time on land
13:30.15GhelaeOluap: You mean like penguins and seals and other aquatic predators?
13:30.42GhelaeAlthough penguins are of course bipedal.
13:30.59Cyrannianhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80_-_%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F.jpg - this is a bit too weird doe
13:31.01OluapPlayerI mean the back sail looks too big in comparison so it would fall over
13:31.19OluapPlayerSpinosaurus chicken edition
13:31.47MonetActually I think those sails were rather light in compariso nto the rest of the body.
13:31.56OluapPlayerTo me that mish-mash skeleton looks like a stretched-up dimetrodon and this is as bad as turning Pluto into a dwarf planet
13:32.03MonetJust a guess though - no muscle, little fatty tissue
13:33.35MonetPalaeontology is probably one of the most divided biological fields in the world.
13:34.41MonetIts just so difficult to know everything for sure. That's why the look of dinosaurs has changed so drastically in the past 25 years alone
13:34.42CyrannianOluapPlayer: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--HshDJ0Zj--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/813266302148042132.jpg - T. rex might have been this totz fab, so it isn't just the Spinosaur
13:35.18OluapPlayerHe's wearing his winter coat
13:35.54OluapPlayerIf you're going to put feathers on a T-rex you should put feathers everywhere and not in just one spot
13:36.10Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
13:36.22MonetTHat woman from Jurassic World does have a point - Imagine trying to piece together what a modern Euroepan man looks like by looking at the bones of corpses from Europe, Central America, China and Central Africa.
13:36.45MonetAll without any way of tying them genetically.
13:37.46MonetThe huma ngenome project caused a paradigm shift in the world of taxonomy -s species we thought were related were in fact not and species we didn't think were related turned out to be drastically similar.
13:38.08OluapPlayerTyrannosaurus-BOK
13:38.21MonetLooks half owl to me
13:38.38OluapPlayerhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B946eR7CcAMM7p_.jpg the tyrant king of lizards
13:39.50GhelaeSome larger theropods have had preserved skin impressions that include scales, so we know they weren't covered completey in feathers if at all.
13:40.03Cyrannianhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrannosaurus#Skin_and_feathers - According to this, they probably had both scales and feathers
13:40.08CyrannianNinja'd
13:41.18GhelaeSo, either fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view, they didn't look like gigantic owls or sparrows.
13:42.46MonetThis does lend credance to the idea that dinosaurs are more closely related ot most birds tha nreptiles like alligators or monitor lizards.
13:43.26OluapPlayerWell, birds are just evolved theropod dinosaurus
13:43.30OluapPlayer*dinosaurs even
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14:21.09Wormy_awayYes they are
14:21.33Wormy_awayhttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/birds_and_dinosaurs.png
14:25.46CyrannianIndeed, it's also interesting to note that crocodiles and alligators are more closely related to birds than other reptiles like lizards and snakes.
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14:58.50dromHello
14:59.46CyrannianHai
15:00.36MonetHello
15:00.42Monethttp://www.washingtonpost.com/local/an-italian-draft-of-pope-francis-environmental-paper-leaks--setting-off-scurry-to-google-translate/2015/06/15/89af0012-1379-11e5-9ddc-e3353542100c_story.html Good ol' Francis
15:00.52dromToday hasn't been much of new except I passed the age of majority.
15:00.54Vincent20100HEy drom
15:01.04Vincent20100I had something to ask you, but I can't remember what...
15:01.57dromImperios: Dis is Japan http://i.imgur.com/fOi7HlF.jpg
15:02.51Imperiosdrom: We're going to need more missile launchers
15:02.54MonetI'd like to see Congress challenge Climate CHange now that even the Pope believes its largely the result of human activity.
15:05.49CyrannianHappy birthday drom!
15:06.11dromThanks!
15:06.19Imperiosdrom: http://bfolder.ru/_ph/14/970175517.jpg
15:06.24dromMonet: http://i.imgur.com/vS3Uj3l.webm
15:06.24ImperiosAnd happy birthday yeah :3
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15:07.19dromIt means I've the right to go drunk now hur
15:07.51Monetdrom: Is that a stingray?
15:08.11dromA black stingray yeah
15:10.03dromKid ya not, black stingrays are pretty much the ocean's equialvent of dogs.
15:11.59Wormy_Happy birthday
15:12.13dromThanks!
15:12.25MonetShame the comments section of that Washington Post article is full of deniers.
15:12.38Wormy_Either get drunk, or feast.  If you feast, it'll soak up the alcohol you may be forced by society to dtink
15:13.02dromImperios: Polskie yoghurt http://i.imgur.com/Q8PvLCU.jpg
15:13.06Wormy_For me it was fun but we are all different.jpg
15:13.28Imperiosdrom: Throw that fucking thing into outer space
15:14.02dromImperios: incase you don't know what actually it is, it is vodka packed in yoghurt cups
15:14.43Wormy_I remember showing my ID to a security man outside a pub on my 18th, then he said "you'll have to buy me on" lol
15:15.59Wormy_bbl
15:25.50ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTryU1fp-zw&index=5&list=FLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg Javina's theme song
15:27.32OluapPlayerhur
15:30.08Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Rihanae_Gambit#Chapter_Four:_Wrath_of_the_Republic - c update
15:30.28OluapPlayerCretacea - OH NO U DONT U LIL SHIT
15:30.47dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/ePOBzbZ.png
15:34.06MonetGod - *kills Matt Murdoch* there. Now I sue.    Matt - But he didn't do anything wrong     Satan - Haha
15:52.44Vincent20100_drom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs
15:53.59ImperiosCyrannian: Seems like D'vul bit more than she could chew
15:54.11Imperios...That sounded nasty
15:54.15CyrannianD'Vul - bich im a man
15:55.17Imperios...Oh wait yes
15:55.26ImperiosStill nasty hur
15:56.18ImperiosI confused him with Tai'rex
15:56.56CyrannianPoor Tai'Rex, I might bust her out of New Republic custody at some point
16:05.23OluapPlayerstraight into a grave yus
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16:25.51dino82_hello al
16:25.52dino82_l
16:26.18dromhai
16:26.59MonetHello
16:28.18dino82_:D
16:28.53GhelaeHello.
16:31.33Vincent20100_Yop!
16:31.46ImperiosMonet: Did it ever happen to you that you spent weeks studying some subject and end up nearly failing because of some minor mistake, and then get an A from another teacher for a subject that you barely prepared?
16:32.28MonetImperios: Can't entirely recall really.
16:33.29CyrannianHello dino!
16:33.43OluapPlayerHey dino
16:34.14dromImperios: Happened to me, save for the failing part.
16:35.59MonetRussian exams sound harsh if a minor mistake nearly jeapordised your ability to pass.
16:39.22Vincent20100_Just write "Putin approuves of this answer" in the answer section and you will be fine.
16:39.23ImperiosWell it didn't jeopardise it
16:39.35ImperiosI just got a fairly low score
16:39.36OluapPlayerCyrannian dino82_: Can we continue our story?
16:39.53ImperiosVincent20100_: Won't work, Russian universities are liberal as fuck
16:40.19ImperiosWriting "Putin *dis*approves of this answer" would be a better idea
16:40.27Vincent20100_Then tell Putin that the teachers are Ukrainian rebels
16:40.44Vincent20100_You should get your new teacher by the week.
16:42.14MonetKnowing universities, such a lecturer is likely to be questionned rather than immediately fired. Or am I wrong?
16:42.40MonetIn Europe at least, the idea of firing osmeone on the spot is frowned upon.
16:42.47ImperiosYou say it as if Putin has that power over universities
16:42.55dino82_@Oluap: I thinkI can sure
16:43.11ImperiosSome student put Stalin's photo on a V-Day wall newspaper
16:43.24ImperiosSaid photo ended up violently torn apart and mutilated
16:43.46MonetAnd the student who put it up?
16:44.20Vincent20100_Yah, but does he want to go through a full interogatory with nice KG...FSB guys...
16:44.21ImperiosI don't know who designed the wall newspaper hur
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16:47.22ImperiosVincent20100_: You act like Koba is still alive hur
16:47.31ImperiosI mean not that the FSB does not interrogate people
16:50.24ImperiosBut they do not interrogate anyone who talks shit of the government
16:50.29ImperiosOtherwise our /pol/ would be empty
16:53.27Vincent20100_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVsHHLa3yDg&feature=player_detailpage#t=37
16:53.32Imperioshttps://2ch.hk/po/src/9340623/14345570129640.jpg Speaking of commies
16:54.07ImperiosVincent20100_: This video reminded me of one old Soviet joke
16:54.39Vincent20100_These boots are made to walk?
16:54.40Vincent20100_http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/138000/138719_communism_its_a_party.jpg
16:56.36ImperiosA rich Arab wanted to marry his twelve beautiful daughters, so he called potential grooms and asked how many of them would they be able to satisfy.
16:56.59ImperiosThe German said "One.", so the Arab refused
16:57.29ImperiosThe Frenchman said "Four.", so he was refused as well.
16:57.53ImperiosThe Georgian said "Thirteen." The Arab raised his eyebrows and asked him to explain.
16:58.11Imperios"Well, you look kinda fresh too," the Georgian replied
16:58.34Vincent20100_O_O
17:01.12Imperios(Stalin was, well, Georgian)
17:01.49Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Tyandas - new burd character
17:02.21OluapPlayerBURD
17:02.25Vincent20100_A friend of mine gave me his Enemy at the Gates disk yesterday
17:02.31ImperiosHere's another one, about Ukrainians
17:02.54OluapPlayerHell Oiseau are long-lived
17:03.01OluapPlayerNearly a thousand years old
17:03.28ImperiosAn old Ukrainian returned from Spain to his family and tells them about what he saw there:
17:05.02Imperios"In Spain, I was on that festival called the Corrida. They set loose a big bull on the arena, while a guy stands before him and waves a red banner."
17:05.02OluapPlayerTitanpaaaaaaaaad
17:05.05Imperios"And what then?"
17:05.29Imperios"WELL WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF SOMEONE WAVED A *RED* BANNER IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE"
17:06.23MonetBullfighters use more than red sheets irrc.
17:06.30MonetMore colours I mean
17:06.36ImperiosIt was a joke about Communism hur
17:06.40MonetI know I know
17:06.58Vincent20100_A Frenchman is arriving at the Montreal Airport. He takes a cab to visiti the city. While he passes in on the Pont Jacque Cartier he asked:
17:07.11Vincent20100_French: What is that? How many years did it take to built?
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17:07.26Vincent20100_Driver: I don't know, about 10 years.
17:07.26MonetJust saying that the I believe the famous red cape is reserved for the finale.
17:07.35MonetHi
17:07.35HachimanHai
17:07.41GhelaeHello.
17:07.42ImperiosHi
17:07.42Vincent20100_French: In France, we would have it built in 2 years.
17:07.46OluapPlayer~kidnap Hachiman
17:07.49infobotACTION drives up in a non-descript white van, jumps out, shoves Hachiman in the back, and drives off.
17:07.55Hachiman<3
17:08.02Vincent20100_The cab passes in front of the Casino and he say:
17:08.19Vincent20100_French: What is that? How many time did it took to built it?
17:08.32MonetThey hide a sword behind the red cape and cut the bull down as it runs past. The red cape disguising the blood splatter.
17:08.33Vincent20100_Driver: I don't know, about 2 years.
17:08.48Vincent20100_French: In France we would had it built in 2 months
17:09.00Vincent20100_The cab passes in front of the Olympic Stadium
17:09.06MonetOh dear...
17:09.11HachimanOh boy
17:09.17Vincent20100_French: Ho! What is that? How many years did it took to build it?
17:09.17OluapPlayerdino82_: Join the titanpad again
17:09.28Vincent20100_Driver: I don't know sir, it wasn't here this morning...
17:10.03MonetPrepare for cringe?
17:11.05ImperiosAn old Ukrainian is lying on his deathbed, surrounded by his relatives.
17:11.22ImperiosHe calls his son: "Sonny, call the commissar, I want to join the Communist Party!" "Why?" - the son asks - "Haven't we always hated communists?"
17:11.47Imperios"Exactly!" - the old Ukrainian says - "When I die, there will be one less communist in the world."
17:11.54Hachimanolol
17:18.37ImperiosAn ancient Egyptian pyramid has been unearthed, but archaeologists cannot find out what pharaoh was buried there. American and British scientists tried to study the mummy from the pyramid, but their efforts was fruitless.
17:19.20ImperiosThe Soviet Union sends three KGB officers, who then enter the pyramid.
17:19.42ImperiosThe officers return in a few hours, tired but happy.
17:19.55Imperios"Did you find out anything?" - the scientists ask.
17:20.29Imperios"Yes. That's Amenhotep XXIII."
17:20.44Wormy_awayHAHAHAH
17:20.49Imperios"How did you find that out?" - the scientists ask in amazement.
17:20.54Imperios"He confessed himself."
17:21.13Vincent20100_http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aWZyORn_700b_v2.jpg
17:21.56Imperios...That's the variation of that joke yes
17:24.17Imperios"A man shouts on the Red Square: "Damn that moustached bastard for ruining our country?" An NKVD officer arrests him and brings him to Stalin.
17:24.37Imperios"Whom did you mean when you were saying this?" - Stalin asked.
17:24.47Imperios"Hitler, of course!" said the man.
17:25.10Imperios"Very well." Stalin replied. "And whom did *you* mean, officer?"
17:27.12MonetImperios: Reminds me of a line from GTA V. There was this Nazi officer on this 50s cartoon guarding the gates to Vinewood. When he learns that a couple of people are trying to get in to look for COmmunists his response is "Commies? I hate those filthy Communists! They killed my father. In Stalingrad!"
17:27.27Imperios...Hur
17:27.46MonetBad taste but that's GTA
17:28.49Imperios"Young men and women are marching on an anti-religious communist demonstration, waving banners like "No to Christianity" or "Religion is the opiate of the masses". Among them is a much older man.
17:29.32ImperiosOne of the younger men asks him: "What caused you to disbelieve in Christ, sir?"
17:29.54Imperios"Well, I have always been against Christianity, may Allah damn them all!"
17:30.15OluapPlayerand then he exploded and everyone died
17:31.20Imperioshur
17:37.56Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11230040_1595428364038976_3993448017086668675_n.jpg?oh=726b6cd6c6ab672cd7d92b3f68402209&oe=55FAE7B5 Why Tumblr sucks
17:38.15Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11427235_1425684357454619_7093269393696363633_n.jpg?oh=95ba29a89226c3000a75df2c6b86c5b8&oe=55E7F8ED "Does this make me a bad mother?"
17:39.27OluapPlayerolol
17:41.44ImperiosHachiman: "FUCK ME" "I WILL KILL ME"
17:43.02ImperiosOluapPlayer: I think the joke originated before Muslims started exploding
17:43.22Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11406826_927695340586469_3295728666392311912_n.jpg?oh=8007cf1f32aea14e7195116db7739c33&oe=55F2AF70
17:43.26OluapPlayerdun care
17:43.39MonetThey ony really started doing that via the Taliban didn't they?
17:45.01ImperiosWell they used religion to rally people to war since... well... the 8th century, but yeah they only started to explode recently
17:45.42ImperiosFunny thing is, the explosive belt was actually invented and popularised by Tamils in India
17:45.45ImperiosOr Sri Lanka
17:48.32MonetThough "Jihad" = "Holy war as encouraged by the Quran" is probably another misconception, then again Christians misunderstanding Muslim culture is nothing new at all.
17:49.26ImperiosWell
17:49.33MonetPeople are right that the Quran does mention Jihad, But the meaning is wrong
17:49.35ImperiosJihad IS a holy war as encouraged by quran
17:49.40ImperiosIt just has other meanings
17:49.48MonetJihad means "struggle"
17:49.50ImperiosWell yeah
17:50.17MonetWhich could mean anything really. Life's hard and we suffer though it.
17:50.37MonetBut what maters is that we prevail against whatever odds we get.
17:50.48HachimanALLAH ACKBAR
17:51.00ImperiosIn Islam it usually means either "self-perfection" - as in the struggle against personal flaws, "enforcement of law" - as in the struggle against the flaws of society
17:51.05ImperiosOr, as Hachiman said
17:51.09ImperiosALLAHU AKBAR
17:51.33MonetThe struggle for self-perfection and the enforcement of law.
17:52.09MonetWe are not so different
17:52.50MonetBasically calling a Jihad a holy war is like considering self-improvement a form of holy war. Which does sound a little silly.
17:53.08ImperiosWell Islam in its core *is* more militant due to its origins
17:53.32ImperiosBut who said Europe is not militant either hur
17:53.51MonetSwitzerland - We're not.
17:54.06ImperiosSwitzerland has cool soldiers
17:54.27ImperiosThe main difference between the two religions in that Christianity formed as a secretive cult in a falling empire that mostly opposed the government
17:54.33MonetActually Switzerland being nonviolent is kind of ironic
17:54.43ImperiosWhile Islam was formed as the religious foundation of a *rising* empire
17:54.58HachimanThus Islam is cooler hur
17:55.19MonetI recall Switzerland set a world record a few years back for "most guns owned per capita"
17:55.21HachimanI prefer Sikhism myself though
17:55.22ImperiosHachiman confirmed for Allahu Akbar
17:56.06ImperiosActually from what I've read Medieval Arab history is kinda similar to either that of early Romans or the Mongols
17:56.34MonetBack i nthe late 2000s, there were two gusn for every Swiss citizen
17:57.05Imperios>be fucking irrelevant merchant/nomad people that nobody cares about surrounded by fancy civilised people
17:57.15Imperios>some guy comes and says FUCK THIS
17:57.20Imperios>unite
17:57.26MonetImperios: And thus empire is born
17:57.40Imperios>fuck over the rest of your region
17:57.53MonetYep
17:58.07Imperios>fuck over more civilised empires and steal their science and culture
17:58.17Imperios>become civilised and cultured and scientifically advanced yourself
17:58.34MonetHistorically some of the most badass leaders in history were the ones who *founded* an empire.
17:58.45Imperios>another horde of angry nomad people come and fuck YOU over
17:58.54Imperios>the cycle continues
17:59.18Hachimanbrb
17:59.20MonetImperios: Actually I think England fits too.
17:59.38ImperiosSort of yes
17:59.52MonetBefore the colonisation of the Americas, England was a teeny island partially isolated from continental politics
18:00.47MonetSpain became rich and powerful and thought it could claim England as part of it's empire. So it built a massive navy that ended up getting trorn apart by smaller ships part of a smaller navy.
18:01.14MonetWith Spain's navy crippled, England picked up the slack.
18:02.03MonetThe only difference was England wasn't completely insignificant. Just partially cut off
18:02.39MonetThen our empire got fucked over by Africans and Indians.
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18:02.57Hachimanbak
18:03.12HachimanMy PC is being faulty with its internet so I am on the laptop
18:03.17HachimanHonestly kinda prefer it
18:03.46ImperiosMonet: Feel the power of Gandhi
18:03.56Monethttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/14/article-0-18A8D934000005DC-104_634x344.jpg so this is Switzerland's answer to the space shuttle
18:04.31dino82_@monet: add to that, they could'nt overcome their rivals of the East Indian Trading Company and the Dutch Navies
18:04.31HachimanReminds me of an SRS Blackbird kinda
18:04.44dino82_Europe had quite some powerful empires around that time
18:04.56dino82_As well as France, they were heavily present as well
18:05.40Monetdino82_: Which East India Company though?
18:06.21dino82_the Dutch one, they ruled the seas once around that time
18:06.37dino82_(don't look at us now as small as we are but ah well............)
18:07.06MonetOh yeah there was a lot of Indian and Indonesian sea trade.
18:07.20Hachimanqt dutch navy boys
18:07.46ImperiosAYAYAYAYAYAAA
18:07.52MonetIwas asking because at its height the British East India Company was in control of 2/3rds of the Indian subcontinent.
18:08.10ImperiosHachiman: Didn't the British Navy allow its members to have sex with each other?
18:08.33HachimanI am not sure about that
18:09.18MonetThe DUch were solid rivals I won't deny that.
18:09.40MonetThe 18th and 19th centuries were indeed the age of empires.
18:10.23ImperiosI remember reading somewhere that England's sodomy laws were rendered moot if a man spent 90 days at sea
18:11.34HachimanHm curious
18:11.44ImperiosAnd that's how Hachi became a sailor
18:12.02MonetI admit was partially inspired myself by the VOC and the EIC when it came to the commercial prevalence of the DI's many corporations.
18:12.56ImperiosThat's actually kinda strange that Russia never had a large trade company like EIC
18:12.59MonetAt its height the EIC was the one covering all the expenses in India. If not, there might have been a massive budget hole for Westminster to deal with.
18:13.27HachimanBritish navy is full of athletic bara men in sailor outfits
18:13.43MonetImperios: Might have been Russia's position.
18:13.50Monetlocation*
18:14.02MonetThe EIC and VOC were primarily maritime organisations.
18:14.06ImperiosWould make sense
18:14.48ImperiosCommunication in the Russian Empire was mostly based around rivers before the introduction of railroad
18:15.12MonetOne of the things that made such a thing popular was that it allowed Europe to circumnavigate the Ottoman Empire's dominance over land trade with Asia
18:15.37ImperiosSo instead of removing kebab you decided to remove yourself *from* kebab
18:15.47MonetPrettymuch.
18:15.50HachimanI know nothing of the Ottoman Empire and I feel as if I should
18:16.03ImperiosThey were the ultimate kebabs
18:16.10ImperiosThat's why they were removed
18:16.32HachimanAll I know is that Turkey is one of the prominent states that seceded it
18:16.38Monethttp://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/89/4789-004-2F86E60E.jpg well this was their extent for a start.
18:16.41ImperiosTurkey IS the Ottoman Empire
18:16.50Imperios...What remains of it
18:16.59HachimanThat is how much I know hur
18:17.30ImperiosThe prominent states that seceded it
18:17.41ImperiosThat would be pretty much all of the Middle East west of Iran
18:17.46ImperiosAnd all of Southeastern Europe
18:18.11MonetFor a time, the Ottoman Empire and the Islamic world were difficult to separate.
18:18.42ImperiosWell the Ottoman Empire did not constitute the entirety of the Islamic world, as there was also the Shiite Iran
18:18.56ImperiosAnd of course India
18:18.58MonetHence why I said difficult. Not impossible.
18:19.13MonetIndia's iffy since you also have Hindusim and Buddhism
18:19.13ImperiosAnd places like Samarkand but they accepted OUR GLORIOUS EMPIRE
18:19.15ImperiosSo they do not count
18:19.18HachimanSo Sunnis are Turkic
18:19.29ImperiosSunni is not a nation
18:19.38ImperiosIt's a denomination of a religion
18:19.41HachimanI know I meant
18:19.50ImperiosWell sort of
18:20.01HachimanSunnis were part of the Ottoman Empire instead of the Shiites
18:20.03ImperiosThe Ottoman Sultan was also the Sunni equivalent of the Pope
18:20.16ImperiosSunni = most of the Middle East sans Iran and Iraq
18:20.43MonetOne of the reasons Iran and Iraq are divided is that their heads of state are of different denominations to each other.
18:20.51ImperiosOnly Iraq
18:20.53ImperiosIran is Shiite
18:21.03Imperios100% Shiite I mean
18:21.14ImperiosThey're fucking Muslim hipsters
18:21.27HachimanSo the difference between Shiites and Sunnis is practically the same difference between Christian Catholocism and Protestantism
18:21.29MonetYeah, Iraq is lead by a small group of Sunni leadership irrc
18:21.36ImperiosMore like Catholicism and Orthodoxy
18:22.06HachimanI know little of Orthodoxy hur
18:22.25ImperiosLike with Catholicism and Orthodoxy, it began as a conflict over who's boss
18:22.28ImperiosMostly
18:22.47MonetOrthodox christians were the ones who rejected the authority of the Pope, right?
18:22.50HachimanI was raised in an atheist household so my knowledge of the differences between Catholicism, Orthodixy, and Protestantism is sparing
18:23.02ImperiosProtestantism was more of a religious reformation thing so I think the Muslim counterpart to it would be either Sikhism or Baha'i
18:23.07ImperiosBaha'i are cool fellas TBH
18:23.15ImperiosWell basically
18:23.39ImperiosCatholicism emphasise the authority of the Pope and, in religious matters, the importance of suffering in achieving salvation
18:23.40MonetThe Byzantine Empire was historically Orthadox. There was quite a bit of tension between Rome and Constantinople.
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18:24.00HachimanHai~
18:24.05MonetHi
18:24.23ImperiosProtestants emphasise self-governance and the importance of pure faith in achieving salvation
18:24.27ImperiosSola fide and all that
18:24.31OluapPlayerreeeee
18:24.50Hachimangit out muh fukn channel normie
18:24.55ImperiosAnd Orthodox Christians emphasise the authority of local Patriarchs and the importance of religious law in achieving salvation
18:24.58ImperiosAlso
18:25.05ImperiosOrthodox Christians allow priests to have sex
18:25.15HachimanOh sweet
18:25.16TechnobliteratorSikhism is definitely not an Islam reformation in the way that Protestantism
18:25.16Technobliteratordumbo
18:25.39ImperiosYes but Sikhism is based on Islam among other things
18:25.46ImperiosAs I said Baha'i is a better comparison
18:26.04HachimanIsn't Sikhism based on Hinduism as well?
18:26.08ImperiosExcept that Baha'i are swell dudes and Protestants are intolerant bastards
18:26.24HachimanAye, Puritan bastards
18:26.31ImperiosGOD HATES FAGS
18:26.36TechnobliteratorAs do Anglicans
18:26.37TechnobliteratorBut there are no significant differences that matter, really
18:26.40Monet...I used to be protestant.
18:26.58ImperiosYou mean between different Protestant denominations?
18:26.59MonetWell, Anglican.
18:27.18Imperios...Silly Europeans with their religious reformation
18:27.51MonetThe main distinguishment is Anglicanism is rare outside of the UK and we consider th Queen as our head of faith.
18:28.03ImperiosWell actually we did have a minor religious reformation too but it *won*, and those who did not accept it fled into Siberia
18:28.12MonetBut aside from her the highest religious authority is the Archbishop of Canterbury.
18:28.36ImperiosSwedes are Protestant right?
18:30.21MonetMost Nordic regions are, which is quite intriguing.
18:30.35HachimanI find all this stuff both fascinating and kinda confusing hur
18:31.04HachimanI mean I enjoy learning of religions and religious leadership and such
18:31.17MonetIts a lot to take in.
18:31.26Hachimanopen-minded atheism is best atheism <3
18:31.26ImperiosThey have fucking lesbian bishops
18:31.44MonetHachiman: Agreed.
18:32.17MonetI have trouble standing "I am atheist therefore I am smarter" types.
18:32.25HachimanAtheism that is not open-minded should just be deemed antitheism
18:32.33HachimanOr general stupidity
18:32.55HachimanMost people tend to forget that many fathers behind engineering and science were religious
18:33.14ImperiosYeah
18:33.42HachimanIn fact many scientists in the modern era still ARE religious
18:33.56MonetThe Ottoman Empire wasn't the longest lasting emprei in history (it became rather stagnent by the late 1600s) but in its short time it is responsible for the current spread and possible state of Islam, as well as being one of the catalysts for westward expansion into the Americas.
18:34.27HachimanDoes this mean the expansion of the Ottoman Empire led to cowboys
18:34.41OluapPlayerFUCK ur cowboys
18:34.50Hachimanfuk u u fukn monkey
18:34.51MonetSort-of.
18:35.23Technobliteratordrom, congratulations
18:35.23TechnobliteratorYou can now edit the MediaWiki pages yourself :o
18:35.47MonetAs I said, for much of its history if you wanted to get to Asia you had two options: Travel through the Ottoman Empire or go oround Cape Horn.
18:36.37HachimanI can only imagine what would have happened if Islam had reached Japan rather than Christianity
18:36.52MonetAnd being an empire, travelling though the Ottoman Empire meant dealig with bureaocracy and trade tariffs.
18:37.02HachimanThen again, probably not much difference actually
18:37.24HachimanAside from Samurai incorporating explosive seppuku methods hur
18:37.29MonetSo Westerners did what any self-respecting businessman does when he gets a bad deal: Leave and look for another one
18:37.44TechnobliteratorThere are Christian terrorists as well
18:37.55HachimanWell yeah
18:37.59HachimanThe IRA for one
18:38.22MonetIts because Islamic terrorists are in the current public scope
18:38.25TechnobliteratorAnd the ones who bomb abortion clinics
18:38.43TechnobliteratorIt's because the media portrays them as the threat to hate right now
18:38.48MonetThere haven't been IRA attacks for years
18:38.56TechnobliteratorThey did for Communists back in the day
18:39.21HachimanI doubt the IRA exists anymore
18:39.24MonetTechnobliterator: The media loves nothing mroe than an entity to channel collective hate
18:39.57TechnobliteratorExactly
18:40.08TechnobliteratorThe Media, and the governmentn
18:40.16Technobliteratornope, IRA still exist
18:40.43Technobliteratorif you look on Google Maps for catholic church locations in Ireland, you will find none
18:41.01Technobliteratorthey are purposefully hidden so people don't look them up to find places to attack
18:41.05HachimanHuh
18:41.40dromTechno: Wot
18:42.03TechnobliteratorAs, drom, grats on the promotion
18:42.34dromNice!
18:42.57dromI'll deliever a hotfix: Change every font to Comic Sans
18:42.58TechnobliteratorSo now you don't need to ask any of us to get it edited anymore
18:43.03Technobliteratorhah
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18:44.41MonetI think the Ottoman Empire is also one of the reasons Turkey can sometimes feel like a mix of the MIddle East and Greece.
18:44.49dromI can as well add user-fonts and similar additions that doesn't need reviewal and such, when none of the admin is either online of available.
18:45.11MonetGreece and Hungary also have some mild Turkic influences i ntheir culture.
18:45.50HachimanI wonder if Africa has ever had a long-standing empire of its own
18:46.01Technobliteratormhm
18:46.11TechnobliteratorAnd that msg update you were planning
18:46.29MonetThe Malinese empire lasted for almost 400 years
18:46.48OluapPlayerI read that as mgs update
18:46.57OluapPlayerliquiiiiiid
18:47.54MonetAt one time theemperors of Mali (particularly Mansa Musa) were some of the richeest men in the world.
18:48.05Technobliteratoroh man
18:48.20HachimanAlso when I say African empires, if anybody says Egypt I will be peeved hur
18:48.24Technobliteratordat MGSV
18:48.24Technobliteratortrailer
18:48.55MonetHachiman: We know.
18:50.42TheImperiosHachiman: Mali, Songhai, Ethiopia, Zimbabwe, the trade cities of Southeast Africa and Somali, Nubia, Kush
18:50.53Ghelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_empires
18:51.18GhelQuite a few were in West Africa; IIRC a good location due to trans-Saharan trade routes.
18:51.26TheImperiosThough Kush was basically south Egypt
18:51.26Hachiman>Ethiopia
18:51.40HachimanI never would have thought Ethiopia was an empire once
18:51.54TheImperiosThey've been an empire since 1979
18:52.02MonetHachiman: One of the major consequences of European colonialism
18:52.06TheImperios*before 1979
18:52.07TheImperiosI think
18:52.19OluapPlayerI didn't watch the new trailer
18:52.24OluapPlayerNo idea when it was even announced
18:52.29MonetAls i ithink Carthathe counts as African.
18:52.38Monetalso I think*
18:52.42MonetCarthage*
18:53.03HachimanHuh I did not envision Carthage as African
18:53.23TheImperiosThey were where Tunis is now
18:53.27TheImperiosSo, North African
18:53.47TheImperiosCome to think about it
18:53.54GhelCarthage was in Africa, but as an offshoot of Phoenecia I wouldn't say it was really a native empire.
18:53.55TheImperiosThere were a lot of civilisations in what is now Nigeria
18:54.06TheImperiosBut I can't remember any names
18:54.08HachimanI was gonna say
18:54.11TheImperiosNri is the only one I can remember
18:54.34GhelHere's a map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/African-civilizations-map-pre-colonial.svg
18:54.55HachimanI do not recall any interpretations of Hannibal being a black African man hur
18:55.30TheImperiosWell
18:55.41MonetHachiman: Likely because Phonecia was in the Holy Land.
18:55.42TheImperiosNorth Africa is *not* black and has never been
18:56.02HachimanBut
18:56.04HachimanAfrica
18:56.30MonetThe Moors.
18:56.40TheImperiosLook by your logic I can deduce Xho should look like me because India is in Asia hur
18:57.17TheImperiosNorth Africans weren't super pasty either though
18:57.21TheImperiosLet me find a picture
18:57.33MonetThe Mediterranian has a lot of Middle-Eastern influences due to peopel like the Phonecians and ROman Africa.
18:58.16TheImperiosHachiman: https://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/syrian-nubian-libyian-egyptian.gif dere
18:58.16HachimanI guess I just envision South Africa when I hear Africa as a continent being mentioned
18:58.31HachimanWhich is wrong of me
18:58.34TheImperiosSyrian, Nubian (that's where Sudan is now), Libyan, Egyptian
18:59.18MonetHachiman: It happens
18:59.23TheImperiosSo Egyptians were kinda like black-white-brown-something
18:59.42HachimanNubians are like super black in that picture hur
18:59.57OluapPlayerbut dats wrong
19:00.00OluapPlayerdey were mummies
19:00.06OluapPlayerdunt u watch cartoons
19:00.27TheImperiosOluapPlayer: Dey were brown mummies
19:00.39TheImperiosHachiman: Yep
19:00.50TheImperioshttp://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1600133.1387510212!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpg That's what the Sudanese look like now
19:01.16TheImperiosFeel the heat of da Sahara
19:01.17MonetSudanese gained a reputation for being super-dark.
19:01.28MonetAlmost black.
19:01.50TheImperiosMeanwhile I think from what I remember of them even modern Egyptians are kinda darker than most Arabs
19:03.05TheImperiosMonet: When I think of Africa I usually think of Nigeria for some reason
19:03.09TheImperiosAnd West Africa in general
19:03.39TheImperiosThat and Ethiopia, but that's only because the only person of African descent I know is half-Ethiopian
19:03.51MonetThe term "black" and all its slurs likely came from the almost pitch-dark colouration of a number of slaves who were native to Sub-Saharan Africa where it is *really* sunny.
19:03.51HachimanSo North Africa is where native white Africans come from
19:04.01TheImperiosWell not *white*
19:04.10HachimanMinus Phoenicians hur
19:04.16TheImperiosNot "sieg heil" white, rather "Allahu Akbar" white
19:04.22TheImperiosAnd a tad darker than that
19:05.10TheImperiosBTW that Ethiopian guy I know actually took pictures with fucking Haile Selassie
19:05.11TheImperiosHaile
19:05.13TheImperiosFucking
19:05.14TheImperiosSelassie
19:05.38MonetThat and "white" is a slight exaggeration as well.
19:05.49MonetMost "white" people are more a light pinky-cream.
19:06.00HachimanWell you know what I meant
19:06.06MonetI know I know
19:06.20TheImperiosI think "Caucasoid" is the proper term
19:06.38HachimanBut they are not Caucasian hur
19:06.45TheImperiosWell
19:06.52TheImperiosDefine "Caucasian"
19:07.04HachimanAs in the country
19:07.14MonetJust hypothesising that "black" and "white" as a combination of exaggeration, misperception and igmorance.
19:07.22HachimanYou berated me for saying Caucasian instead of white
19:07.27TheImperiosCaucasus is a region, not a country
19:07.33HachimanKnow what I meant
19:07.35TheImperiosHence "Caucasoid", not "Caucasian"
19:07.41GhelYou could come up with a technically-accurate politically-correct term if you like. Such as "melaninistically-challenged".
19:07.53TheImperiosBut that would include paler Asians
19:08.06Hachiman>challenged implying that they struggle with their pigmentation
19:08.12TheImperiosThe term we used in biology courses here was "Europeoid" or something
19:08.25TheImperiosOkay racial anthropology is a complex term
19:08.29Monet"Europeoid" sounds like a shape.
19:08.39TheImperiosI IS SHAPED LIKE WHITE
19:08.46TheImperios*complex thing
19:09.14GhelYeah; some reference to European descent might be most reasonable if you're not going for "white".
19:09.15Hachimanbrb
19:09.17TheImperiosMonet: Who is white depends a lot on the person in question
19:09.36TheImperiosLike a few decades ago Cyrannian would not have been considered white
19:09.37MonetTheImperios: Yeah that's why I included perception.
19:09.38TheImperiosIn America
19:10.06TheImperiosAlso politics
19:10.28TheImperiosLike for example how Arabs were treated during the Colonial Age by historians
19:10.45MonetTo someone from Etheopia with very dark skin  Most Central and Northern Europeans would look pale as a cloud because they can more easily distingusih the darker pigmentations.
19:11.28TheImperiosIn the 19th century, Arab prospects in Africa were usually praised and seen as an example of civilising Africans through colonisation, with Arabs considered white
19:11.52TheImperiosNowadays we usually view Arab conquests as destructive
19:12.00drom<Technobliterator> And that msg update you were planning
19:12.06TheImperiosOr, alternatively, praise their cultural advancements to be politically correct
19:12.08MonetI noticed in a visit ot Barcelona this year that there are a lot of Spanish living there with a similar pigmentation to me.
19:12.39dromYeah, but it however require to go through a community reviewal and gain approval first
19:12.39GhelConquest in general is often viewed as destructive nowadays.
19:12.42TheImperiosWhen in fact it was Iran who was at the spearhead of Medieval Islamic science, culture and learning and it was Persian sciences that formed the foundation of the Islamic Golden Age
19:13.09TheImperiosThough without the Arabs, their commerce and their Islam they would have never spread their influence that far
19:13.29MonetOne of the benefits of multiculturalism.
19:15.51TheImperiosBasically along with the wonders of ALLAHU AKBAR, the Arabs also spread advances in science and culture that they themselves took from their neighbours and further developed
19:16.33TheImperiosFunnily enough religion kinda spurred their scientific advancement
19:17.04TheImperiosOne of the reasons algebra was developed in the Caliphate was that complex calculations were needed to split inheritance according to Shari'a
19:17.13MonetAnd then Europeans took those advances in science during the crusades lol.
19:20.49GhelIIRC it was the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople that really brought Europe out of the Middle Ages and eventually allowed the scientific revolution to take place, as people fled the city with ancient Greek texts and encouraged a new age of learning.
19:21.04TheImperiosThat and the Reconquista
19:22.06TheImperiosThere were also these Persian bros who made fucking robots in the fucking Middle Ages
19:22.14TheImperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Ingenious_Devices Allahu Akbar-bots
19:25.02GhelYeah; I think the idea that the past was all primitive until the industrial revolution is in part thanks to the fact that Europe just gave up on everything after Rome fell, so we look back to those post-classical times and it doesn't usually look good as far as innovation is concerned.
19:26.07TheImperiosMonet: That discussion about multiculturalism reminded me of one thing about Mass Effect
19:26.41TheImperiosFor all the cultural diversity Mass Effect's humanity provides, you still end up killing Russians and punching Arabs hur
19:26.57MonetGhel: A combination of that and anthethiestic propaganda by Victorian scholars
19:27.28MonetE.g. everyone thinkign the world was flat
19:27.32GhelAh, yes. A distorted view of that history doesn't help.
19:28.33TheImperiosOluapPlayer: "One of al-Jazari's humanoid automata was a waitress that could serve water, tea or drinks. The drink was stored in a tank with a reservoir from where the drink drips into a bucket and, after seven minutes, into a cup, after which the waitress appears out of an automatic door serving the drink."
19:28.40TheImperiosFucking medieval robot maids
19:29.46MonetTheImperios: 3 lets you punch a capitalist.
19:29.52MonetAn American capitalist.
19:30.01TheImperiosFOR MOTHER RUSSIA
19:30.43MonetAnd also punch a Chinese  man...
19:30.56OluapPlayerbeep boop
19:30.58MonetActually that's a bit...off
19:31.10MonetThe most prominent Chinese person in the series is a total asswipe.
19:31.17TheImperiosWasn't there also Fai Dan?
19:35.56MonetI wouldn't call him prominent
19:36.19MonetHe's nowhere near as prominent i nthe story as Kai Leng.
19:38.01TheImperiosKai was Russian/Chinese
19:38.06TheImperios...Which kinda serves my point
19:39.04MonetI wa sgoign to say that it could be how Americna media seems to continue to demonise Russians
19:39.11MonetBut then I rememebred Bioware is Canadian
19:39.22TheImperiosThen they should apologise hur
19:39.42TheImperiosThere was a lot of controversy in Russia over the Soviet campaign of Company of Heroes
19:40.52MonetSHepard is possibly the world's most badass Candian.
19:41.34TheImperiosMost of Russians felt that Relic portrayed the Soviets as too unsympathetic, highlighting the brutality of Stalinist regime rather than the bravery of Soviet soldiers
19:42.41TheImperiosMonet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4SCUaBHS8&sns=em This
19:42.55dromHollywood Gigolo is a pretty fun movie
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19:44.25Monet"thank you Canada for Justin Beiber"
19:44.28MonetHi
19:44.31GhelHello.
19:44.38DrodoEmpireYou're welcome
19:44.38DrodoEmpire<3
19:44.57dromHey
19:46.23TheImperiosMonet: I don't think we should judge nations by their lows
19:46.31TheImperiosOtherwise the Armenian Genocide would have been justified
19:46.37TheImperiosBecause of Anita Sarkeesian and Kim Kardashian
19:48.08GhelSo instead you're arguing that the genocide merely targeted the wrong people?
19:48.13MonetI like Canada
19:48.21DrodoEmpireMonet: Aww
19:48.34MonetIs Bieber considered a national disgrace?
19:48.56DrodoEmpireSorta
19:48.57DrodoEmpireXD
19:49.39GhelCanada has produced other people in the music industry, too.
19:49.47DrodoEmpire^
19:50.09GhelDrake. The Weeknd. Carly Rae Jepsen.
19:50.11TheImperiosI wonder if UK has any Bieber-like singer
19:50.14dromI do like Canada due to its politics compared to our current mess.
19:50.24TheImperiosAs in, any annoying pretty boys favoured by fangirls
19:50.36dromI do even get the impression that Canadians have more tolerance than the average Swede.
19:50.39DrodoEmpireDeadmau5, Joal Plaskett, etc.
19:50.53DrodoEmpiredrom: Eh maybe? I dunno very many Swedes. XD
19:51.01GhelTheImperios: Not any individual singers I can think of, but bands like One Direction might count there.
19:51.03DrodoEmpireWe tend to be polite I guess
19:51.07TheImperiosOH
19:51.09dromBut I don't like it when you copyright the moose. >:|
19:51.35TheImperiosWe had a few good girl bands but otherwise I do not think Russians are good at pop music
19:51.45MonetAmy Winehouse
19:52.02TheImperiosClassical composers are really the only noteworthy contribution to music we have made
19:52.34TheImperiosMeanwhile the land of my ancestors is a fucking nightmare factory of terrible music
19:53.26DrodoEmpireMeh Canada's alright. I'm not a *huge* fan of deadmau5, anyway, nor of many other Canadian musicians. I just know of them and listen to them every now and then
19:53.28MonetDrodoEmpire: Would you be offended if I said I am a big fam of Stargate?
19:53.37DrodoEmpireMonet:...No? XD
19:53.45MonetOh good.
19:53.51TheImperiosStargate is Canadian?!
19:54.09MonetTheImperios: Technically joint Canadain-American
19:54.14DrodoEmpire^
19:54.16DrodoEmpireYeah
19:54.26DrodoEmpireI believe it was filmed in BC
19:54.37dromDoesn't matter is it is Canadian/American, it is just great. All great.
19:54.40dromif*
19:55.53MonetBeing filmed in Canada is probably why 80% of planets they visit look like this http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/canada/2011/03/16/canadas_forests_the_earths_waterkeeper_us_environmental_group/borealforest.jpeg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpeg
19:57.16MonetAlthough all the scenes that show the tunnel into Cheyenne Mountain were from the real-life entrance into NORAD
19:57.49TheImperiosMonet: ...That looks like Siberia
19:58.14MonetTheImperios: Similar latitudes.
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19:59.11GhelSiberia, Canada, Scandinavia; isn't it practically just one giant coniferous forest / tundra anyway? :P
20:00.03Wormy_awayTheImperios:  "Bieber-like singer"  While they are Irish, Jedward have the similar "either loved or hated" fame here
20:00.35TheImperiosGhel the American
20:01.05TheImperiosHuh
20:01.20TheImperiosWe have a Bieber-like singer but he's less of a pretty oby
20:01.22TheImperios*boy
20:01.24TheImperioshttp://life4news.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bilan.jpg Look at him
20:01.45TheImperiosNow we need Hachiman to rate him
20:02.33DrodoEmpire_Ghel: Ehh...
20:02.58DrodoEmpire_Canada is a *bit* more diverse than that, though yes its a *lot* of forest
20:02.59Wormy_awayGhel is not of puny Earth nationality
20:03.03Monethttps://youtu.be/csFZPxTwkuY?t=5m55s rewatching the series, this interrgoation's been in my head all day
20:03.30DrodoEmpire_Basically to the west you have wheat fields, oil, and pretty forests and mountains.
20:04.09TheImperiosMonet: Oooh I saw that
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20:04.26Monet"Who are you" "captain james T. Kirk, of the Starship Enterprise" "that's not what your dog-tags say" "they're lying"
20:04.34TheImperiosDidn't he also call himself Vader there
20:04.38Wormy_awayI just think of forests of maple trees, each one tapped for syrup, with moose and mountains overhead
20:04.54DrodoEmpire_In Central Canada (Ontario and southern Quebec for the sake of argument) you've got your pretty lakes and urban sprawl. And to the east... Well, more forest, quaint fishing/mining towns and the (very) occasional town.
20:05.00TheImperiosI remember watching this episode, I was seriously confused about what the hell I was even looking at
20:05.15MonetTheImperios: Luke Skywalker actually.
20:06.42GhelMore seriously, I was thinking of this biome map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Distribution_Taiga.png although there is of course more to that than thick continuous forest otherwise the same sorts of map would imply that I should be surrounded by oak trees right now.
20:07.13MonetLater on Daniel decides t otry talking to a former friend by pretending to be a foreign friend of her husband's. When asked hwo he's going ot manage it Daniel's response is "I speak 23 languages, pick one"
20:10.53MonetTheImperios: To be fair I think 1969 was a filler episode
20:11.39MonetThey went back in time via Stargate and had ot travel to DC to reactivate the stargate and go home.
20:12.20Monethttp://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4vjqcgBPw1rxtbbbo1_400.jpg also look at Teal'c's getup
20:12.41Monethttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/stargate/images/b/b6/1969_%28Stargate_SG-1%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080430150938 better picture
20:12.48Monet...or not
20:13.02Monethttp://www.rda-forever.com/galleries/albums/various/PROMOS/StargateSG1/1969.jpg
20:13.40MonetThey gave Teal'c a pink shirt, flowert waistcoat and an afro and he saw nothing wrong with wearing such a thing..
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20:14.37Externaley
20:14.43GhelHello.
20:14.57Monethi
20:16.44Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alcanti_Royal_Palace anyway did some revision.
20:17.13OluapPlayerDidn't expect Maryah to have her own private chamber
20:17.47MonetAlessa likes her.
20:17.55HachimanKezoreg - not private wen im in dere
20:18.49Wormy_awayMonet:  Pink was a manly colour
20:19.02dino82_see ya
20:19.04dino82_have to go all
20:19.05MonetWormy_away: It was indeed the colour of warriors.
20:19.10dino82_till next itme.............................................................................. :D
20:19.11MonetGoodbye
20:19.12Wormy_awaybye
20:19.54Wormy_awayThe Klingons in the animated series also wore pink!..................
20:20.00Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
20:20.27MonetOluapPlayer: I'm tempted to the idea of Aldaren being reserved her own room but I dunno how ofte nshe'd visit.
20:21.37Wormy_awayhttp://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Koloth2269.jpg
20:21.43MonetAnd there's also my curiosity about hwo close she could be to the royal family.
20:21.55Wormy_awayhttp://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Traitors_Claw.jpg
20:22.01MonetSuch a preivelage is reserved for friends and close allies of the family.
20:22.13OluapPlayerSince she's the sole ruler of the Imperium now, I don't imagine her visiting too often
20:22.22OluapPlayerBut I can't see why she can't be a close friend of the family
20:22.33Wormy_awayhttp://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/File:Chuft_Captain.jpg
20:22.44MonetI'll include her then.
20:22.56dromAldaren is now a ruler of the Imperium?
20:23.05HachimanZoles Imperium
20:23.12dromAlright
20:23.19MonetA number of reservations are probably more for state visits or for diplomatic meetings than social calls.
20:24.44MonetGives visiting dignitaries a place to stay other than in a hotel or aboard an orbiting starship
20:26.06HachimanKezoreg - ur gonna wanna git up a cleen up in maryahs room        cus she a dirty grill
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20:26.27The_RandomnessHello
20:26.41MonetAnother perk to a personal rom in the royal palace is it can be styled however the occupant wants it.
20:26.42drom>Wormulus II has private room in the royal palace of Alcanti
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20:28.40The_Randomnesswaptor
20:29.02dromrawr
20:29.17Monetdrom: Uriel's not the sort to revoke room privelages jsut because his empire's at war with that person's empire.
20:29.25GhelHello.
20:29.36OluapPlayer"I want to murder him but he's an ok guy."
20:29.38CyrannianHello!
20:30.14dromMonet: Prime example of Dane-Swede-seque relations
20:30.55dromMonet: http://i.imgur.com/VTZAOln.png
20:31.33Monetdrom: That's Impreial inter-noble politics in a nutshell
20:31.34HachimanWell from what I know, the leaders, ambassadors, and politicians of WW1 were all rather intertwined in familial relations and friendships
20:32.15DrodoEmpire_^
20:32.29DrodoEmpire_Habsburgs were *everywhere*.
20:33.07TheImperiosPower of incest
20:34.02TheImperiosMonet: Wow the last MLP episode actually features the Doctor Who pony as the main character
20:34.14HachimanEw
20:34.16dromNO
20:34.34ExternalI hate that show...
20:34.37HachimanNot so much ew because MLP but ew because MLP + Doctor Who
20:34.40TheImperiosAnd he actually has a British accent
20:34.56HachimanI do not mind either really but when combined it is just a concoction of ech
20:35.04TheImperiosHachiman: He's not that Doctor Who-themed, he just has a British accent and a clock tatoo
20:35.09dromNO divided with 2
20:35.11Externalslices his own head off to escape MLP conversation
20:35.11MonetTheImperios: Probably in response to Doctor Whooves
20:35.19TheImperiosThat IS Doctor Whooves
20:35.31MonetYou mean
20:35.33HachimanTheImperios: Is his relationship with the cross-eyed thing canon?
20:35.42MonetThey designed the pony to look like Matt Smith?
20:35.49HachimanDavid Tennant hur
20:36.00TheImperiosHachiman: >thing
20:36.19TheImperiosBut yeah Derpy is the main character too and they live together
20:36.32HachimanSo they are canon couple
20:36.35TheImperiosYes
20:36.43HachimanCute hur
20:36.51TheImperiosThe 100th episode is basically Fanon: The Episode
20:37.25TheImperiosOhgod
20:38.04TheImperiosIn the last scene Dr. Hooves loses his suit and tries to get dressed for the wedding hastily
20:38.14dromTheImperios: http://i.imgur.com/8C662zm.jpg
20:38.24TheImperios...He ends up up wearing a lot of scarves
20:39.02HachimanOh wow
20:39.43TheImperiosAlso Dr. Hooves is a scientist
20:39.53TheImperiosDoes that relate to Dr. Who somehow?
20:40.15ExternalFicrealizes his head isn't completely sliced off and slices off the remainder of his head, and falls over dead. So much for ExternalFic. His reign was great.
20:40.29TheImperiosExternalFic: PONY PONY PONY PONY PONY PONY PONY
20:40.41TheImperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpQFT-sRxBU
20:40.52ExternalFicsays "fuk you..." in a creepy voice. Then he dies.
20:41.00ExternalFicI ain't gonna click that.
20:41.11TheImperiosSeriously what problems do you have with ponies hur
20:41.26ExternalFicJust hate the show.
20:41.29ExternalFicCan't explain it.
20:41.34TheImperiosRight
20:41.39HachimanTheImperios: Well Time Lords are science-y kings of Gallifrey
20:45.10ExternalFictest
20:45.55HachimanSo appartently Electronic Arts issued a statement claiming that they would rather put effort into new products and games rather than working on remastered games
20:46.05HachimanWhich is logic I can honestly get behind
20:46.19OluapPlayer>EA
20:46.21dromSpeaking of nostalgia.. Monetaway Cyrannian TheImperios: http://i.imgur.com/4K8kAEi.jpg
20:46.22OluapPlayerit's poopy butt
20:46.36Hachimancept mass defect u fukn tard
20:46.48OluapPlayer>mass effect 3
20:46.50OluapPlayerpoopy butt
20:47.07OluapPlayerfite me fgt
20:47.09Hachimancept its not shup
20:47.31CyrannianI thought you didn't like it Hachi
20:47.34HachimanAlright in seriousness I did not like ME3 as much as I did ME2 by a longshot
20:47.40Gheldrom: That makes perfect sense.
20:47.53HachimanBut there were some things I liked about ME3
20:48.00CyrannianWell my favourite is ME3 for some odd reason
20:48.03OluapPlayerME2 was the best game in the trilogy to me
20:48.19HachimanI mean for one the combat system is practically perfected in ME3
20:48.22MonetawayMy only complaint is the original ending and maybe the "eavesdroopper" style sidequest system. Other than that I liked it
20:48.23dromGhel: Aye
20:48.33ExternalFicdrom: plot twist!
20:48.40HachimanYeah ME2 is my favourite game in the series
20:48.54OluapPlayerI'm not going further into this since last time I was vocal about ME3 I was yelled at
20:49.05TheImperiosGREEN SPACE MAGIC
20:49.12HachimanME3 has a lot wrong with it
20:49.14dromAll this talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRKP3VbI41M
20:49.38HachimanBut then so did ME1 in regards to its gameplay mechanics
20:49.52HachimanME2 was the perfect crossover of RPG elements and gameplay mechanics
20:50.21HachimanME3 had better game mechanics overall but a worse and restrictive roleplaying experience
20:50.41TheImperiosME3 suffered from ending fatigue
20:50.54TheImperiosVery high expectations and it failed to deliver
20:51.32HachimanNot just the ending fatigue
20:51.37OluapPlayerThat and the fact the game was revolved around a deux ex machina which came out of nowhere
20:52.02TheImperiosThat too
20:52.12TheImperiosIt kinda contradicted a lot of previous lore
20:52.19TheImperiosHachiman: BTW about that discussion about white people in Africa
20:52.32ExternalFicI liked the Mass Effect games, but the fact that you couldn't skip the long-ass speeches irritated me.
20:52.37HachimanAnd the fact that you talked to characters a lot less and the Reapers were far more underpowered than they were made out to be as a story element
20:52.44CyrannianI do think Sovereign is a far better antagonist than Harbinger
20:52.46TheImperiosCome to think about there's another place in Africa where people are sort of white-ish - Ethiopia, Somali, and the rest of the Horn of Africa
20:53.01TheImperiosCyrannian: Sovereign was a tad too ominous to be a good protagonist, Harbinger was fun
20:53.11OluapPlayer>protagonist
20:53.13OluapPlayeru goofed up
20:53.16TheImperios*antagonist
20:53.16dromlmao
20:53.17TheImperiosMy mistake
20:53.36HachimanI thought Somalians were like Nubians
20:53.44OluapPlayerI liked both Sovereign and Harbinger, their contrast was interesting
20:53.44dromhonsetly saying, that's one of the funniest goof-ups I've seen
20:53.46TheImperioshttp://images.doctissimo.fr/1/beaute-mode/liya-kebede/photo/hd/3768852376/212708348ec/liya-kebede-liya-kebede-big.jpg?v=11 Ethiopians and Somalis are kinda dark-skinned but otherwise look like Arabs or Italians
20:54.02CyrannianI mean I did like Harbinger but I didn't like how all the build up to him being the main antagonist was dropped in ME3
20:54.13OluapPlayerBut we didn't even get to fight Harbinger in any way and that sucks dong
20:54.20HachimanaYE
20:54.22HachimanAye even
20:54.25OluapPlayerAt least with Sovereign we fought an avatar of his will
20:54.42dromTheImperios Hachiman http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3a4ut1/why_did_jon_snow_stand_in_line_for_6_hours_at_the/
20:54.52HachimanAnd we thought an actual Reaper in ME2
20:54.54TheImperioshttp://i.imgur.com/mR67eV4.jpg Somali
20:54.57HachimanOr at least a proto-Reaper
20:55.03Hachiman*fought even
20:55.12TheImperiosIMO the final boss should have been an actual fucking Reaper
20:55.38TheImperiosThis reminds me, Ethiopian girls are <33333
20:55.45Hachimandrom: olol
20:55.59CyrannianIt would have been cool if you could take control of the Normandy and destroy Harbinger in the climax of ME3 or something along those lines
20:56.14dromThe final boss in ME2 was a construct in the Collector's base. When it was destroyed, the base was destroyed, if I can recall correctly.
20:56.28HachimanReapers are constructed, not born
20:56.49HachimanWhat was fought in ME2 was a proto-Reaper with a humanoid chassis
20:57.04dromMade of abucted lifeforms
20:57.19HachimanAll Reapers are made of abducted lifeforms hur
20:57.27dromk
20:58.25dromThe proto-Reaper had a mix of Collector and Humanoid for appearance
21:01.51dromI've never understood the biology and lifecycle of the Reapers.
21:02.31HachimanWell they are intended to be alien
21:03.05OluapPlayerThey get a race, turn them into goo, put that goo inside a giant construct then make a bigger squid-like construct around that
21:03.07OluapPlayerBam, Reaper
21:03.19HachimanAye
21:03.26HachimanReapers are manufactured
21:04.22dromWhen I first encountered the reaper larva (human-reaper) I could barely notice that it in fact had 4 weak-points in its eye sockets, but only one was covered. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140621181737/masseffect/images/2/24/Humanreaper_mugshot.png
21:04.55CyrannianI can't find that video where Shepard takes Kelly Chambers out of the goo chamber used by the Collectors only to put her back in and say "your trust is well placed, Kelly"
21:05.40ExternalFicbrb
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21:05.59OluapPlayerolol
21:09.13dromher death was kinda cruel though
21:09.42Cyrannianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NZidTnSoLI - Ah here it is olol
21:13.56dromolol
21:15.27dromThat ending should've been canon
21:16.08ImpyDroidHur
21:16.21Cyrannian"I've been through a lot too, Kelly."
21:17.32OluapPlayer"I asked for this."
21:17.33dromCyrannian Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E41qz1FciU
21:17.36ImpyDroidhttps://youtu.be/5wkW8KPKoII Timidly: That was kind of intriguingy
21:18.51ImpyDroidIt reminds me of that discussion I had with my classmate today
21:19.06ImpyDroidWe discussed what it would be like to play ME4 as a hanar
21:19.11ImpyDroid*groupmate
21:19.44HachimanSplatoon is the answer
21:20.33OluapPlayerHanars are not cute squid kids
21:20.39Hachimandey can b
21:20.47Cyrannianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFR4socSv_E Legion - beep boop beep
21:21.22CyrannianAh Shepard is a human/hanar hybrid in that video
21:24.15MonetawayI think I understand the logic behind using people
21:24.45MonetWhen broken down int oconstituent components, humans are made up of hydrocarbons and trace metals
21:24.55MonetOther lifeforms are probably similar
21:25.17HachimanProbably most carbon-based lifeforms
21:25.59MonetThe reapers probably don't even consider that go as, well, goo. They might percieve it as closer to molten plastic.
21:27.36MonetHydrocarbons would be converted into plastics and carbon fibre for the body, while trace samples of gold and copper are used for the electronics
21:30.16ImpyDroidMonet: https://youtu.be/QUtoLaQfC0A
21:33.00MonetImpyDroid: I liked Gul'Dan's reaction to Garrosh's rant
21:33.26MonetGul'Dan - Ehh.....watlol?
21:33.27ImpyDroidHe looked like fucking Jafar in that scene
21:33.57MonetWell he is a smug sorceror wh ocommands dark magical power
21:34.24ImpyDroidThe trailer is a bit underwhelming though
21:34.34ImpyDroidI mean it was kinda short
21:36.47MonetLet's hope that Green Jesus doesn't kill Gul'dan too
21:38.22Monetdrom: There's a possibility that it might actually be considered shameful (or possibly just immature) by Draconis to revoke stuff like room privelages beause you're in a heated rivalry.
21:39.05ImpyDroidMonet: Beta testers indicate that Thrall won't appear in 6.2 at all
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21:39.13MonetHi
21:39.17Zillafire101Hello all.
21:39.24MonetImpyRdoid: Praise the Light!
21:39.25ImpyDroidOh and Gul'dan isn't the final boss so it is likely that he will survive
21:41.50ImpyDroidDatamining indicates that Gul'dan will flee on his flagship
21:42.17ImpyDroidTo Farahlon maybe? That's the only Outland zone they have not covered yet
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22:02.41ImpyDroidCyrannian: Can I ask you a question about Star Wars?
22:03.13Cyrannianaye
22:03.28ImpyDroidDid the Republic have any sort of military before the Clone Army, outside of the Jewish?
22:03.35ImpyDroid*Jedi
22:03.39ImpyDroidFucking T9
22:04.34CyrannianThey had the Judicials, though it was more of a law enforcement agency http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judicial_Department/Canon
22:05.31dromMonet: I see.
22:05.37CyrannianUnless you mean the Republic in the Old Republic Era, which did field very large militaries against the various Sith Empires whenever they propped up
22:06.08ImpyDroidI mean the modern Republic
22:06.12ImpyDroidI played SWTOR hur
22:06.43ImpyDroidHow is it going BTW?
22:06.49CyrannianIn that case, none for the entire Republic though different sectors like Kuat did field their own militaries under a certain limit
22:08.14Wormy_awayImpyDroid:  http://imgur.com/gallery/zbD9yUh
22:09.55ImpyDroidRite
22:10.07Wormy_awayI really hope this is fake (gross)  http://i.imgur.com/qv4lAlg.png
22:10.58ImpyDroid>so satan couldn't stick a dick in my ass and make me gay
22:11.03ImpyDroidThat's brilliant
22:13.10Wormy_awayi wanna believe http://imgur.com/gallery/1EWtX
22:14.28Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/0upmtSS
22:15.24ImpyDroidThis crow is clearly an agent of the West, acting like a decadent civilised European
22:15.45ImpyDroidNo true Russian would do that
22:16.01dromimplying it isn't russian to use cars as trashbins
22:16.15Wormy_awaydrom:  http://imgur.com/gallery/3pSYcnT
22:16.38MonetCan't help noticing the number of posters confused for tihnking rice causes crows to explode.
22:16.51dromWormy_away: he be dead
22:17.46dromImpyDroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEllD4hziUY
22:18.19Wormy_awayhttp://i.imgur.com/0DYxqCZ.jpg
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22:18.31Quark8Hello.
22:18.52ImpyDroiddrom: That's Dagestan for ya
22:20.04dromImpyDroid: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ab_1377785135
22:20.53Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/DS5HbQF
22:21.04Wormy_awaydayumn nature
22:21.35Wormy_away"Comments this good are rare. Don't take them for granite"
22:23.51dromI wish we could litter inside litters' cars.
22:24.06dromThat'd painfully sweet karma
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23:32.38CyrannianHey Random
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