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01:24.19 | DrodoEmpire | Good, good. |
01:24.24 | DrodoEmpire | Yourself? |
01:25.27 | Quark8 | Fine. |
01:26.43 | Quark8 | Though I am quite worried about my grandfather. |
01:27.35 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
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12:00.54 | Monet | Might ask later but I'm rethinking Draconis architecture |
12:02.09 | Monet | Just wondering what kind of architecture would be devised by a species that is enthralled by beauty and has spent so long observing others or even creating its own form of life. |
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12:04.17 | Ghelae | All kinds of architecture, I would imagine. If they're keen on the idea of natural beauty I could see them making buildings that resemble natural wonders like mountains and canyons. |
12:04.19 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:06.13 | Ghelae | Perhaps cities made of photosynthesising buildings shaped like gigantic trees and covered in emerald and gold. |
12:08.12 | Monet | I had wondered just now about stuff like rock formations stylised and detailed into decorative arches. |
12:09.07 | Monet | I don't want to completely go the "Tolkien Elf City" route though. |
12:10.31 | Monet | http://data1.whicdn.com/images/3876225/original.jpg hmm... |
12:11.20 | Monet | I do wonder about ocmbining Art Nouveau with something else |
12:13.18 | Monet | http://www.evolo.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hong-Kong-Hydropolis-Hwang-Suh-02.jpg this looks intriguing |
12:13.43 | Monet | Perhaps...perhaps Draconid architecture is a combination of Art Nouveau decoration and organic curves? |
12:16.28 | Ghelae | That should fit with the general theme of what I suggested; I wasn't thinking of a complete imitation of nature. |
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12:17.21 | Hachiman | Hai |
12:17.27 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:17.42 | Monet | Hello |
12:18.53 | OluapWorker | ~cuddle Hachiman |
12:18.54 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
12:18.56 | Monet | Given advances in technology it could be that these skyscrapers have solar panels for windows. |
12:18.58 | Hachiman | <3 |
12:21.51 | Wormy_ | So Napoleon entered one of the tombs in the Eqyptian pyramids and had a frightful experience of such magnitude he ran out. He refused to tell anyone what he saw, even before he died, saying "No, you'll never believe me" |
12:21.58 | Wormy_ | Egyptian |
12:22.32 | OluapWorker | Napoleon got spooked by the mummy skeletons |
12:23.01 | Monet | Wormy_: Maybe he was almost posessed by a Goa'uld? |
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12:23.05 | Ghel | ~seen ghelae |
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12:23.19 | Ghel | [13:18] <Monet> Given advances in technology it could be that these skyscrapers have solar panels for windows. |
12:23.25 | Ghel | Not if they're visible-light solar panels: if the energy of light is absorbed for power generation, it won't be available to pass through the panel for people to see it. |
12:23.37 | Ghel | Although it might be good for them to prevent infrared and ultraviolet light from reaching people inside a building by that method. |
12:23.49 | Wormy_ | Monet: Hm,that would explain things |
12:24.34 | Monet | Ghel: Its possible. |
12:24.42 | Wormy_ | The tomb looks like a Goa'uld sarcophagus |
12:25.48 | Monet | THen again given the Imperium's capabilities, while solar panels in the city are convenient, there are much better places to put solar panels. |
12:25.59 | Monet | In orbit of thep lanet, for one. |
12:26.38 | Monet | Which would also be more useful for UV, X-ray and gamma ray-absorbing solar panels |
12:27.04 | Ghel | So like an artificial ozone layer made up of solar panels. |
12:27.49 | Monet | Seems like something the long-view-minded Draconis would do |
12:28.07 | Ghel | In the context of more fictional technology, perhaps this is part of how planetary shields work? |
12:28.18 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/11415607_1406059242750464_613537355061576787_o.jpg frug |
12:28.30 | Hachiman | "My sister loved her new Koi Fish... She now hates my frog." |
12:28.33 | Ghel | A planet-sized deflector shield that absorbs high-energy particles and uses their energy for power. |
12:28.40 | Monet | I figured planets like Alcanti have generators planetside designed to protect satellites from the more nasty solar flares. |
12:31.00 | Ghel | So rather than literal solid panels, the solar power array is a shell of gas and plasma just above the atmosphere. |
12:32.16 | Ghel | Whether that's possible in the real world I don't know, but that goes for most properties of deflector shields in general. |
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12:32.57 | Monet | You'd need one big magnetic field to keep the gas or plasma from dissipating into space. |
12:33.44 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10433780_2239948342719010_371304779802886525_n.jpg?oh=59e68484645d8f250302059bcf5d4555&oe=55F0820D |
12:33.51 | Monet | So theoretically...could work. Though in the real world we might not have a power source large or cheap enough for continuous operation. |
12:35.03 | Ghel | That's a general problem with such shields. Presumably they generate their own fields by the motion of their constituent particles, and/or they have some solid material arragnement where the shield bubble exists. You certainly don't want to be generating huge magnetic fields from the planet's surface. |
12:36.17 | Ghel | And part of the idea here is that some power would come from solar light, cosmic rays, and possibly even variations in the planet's own magnetic field. |
12:37.27 | Ghel | In practice, I suppose that might not actually be enough to maintain such a shield, let alone provide excess power to the planet below. |
12:37.50 | Ghel | But planetary shields have appeared in the fictionverse, which is why the thought occured to me. |
12:44.33 | Monet | Perhaps two fields. |
12:45.10 | Monet | One is a network of solar panels, the other is a plasma membrane |
12:45.43 | Monet | The membrane could be boosted as-needed |
12:46.06 | Monet | While the solar panel network is suspended at a constant orbit. |
12:59.05 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11416188_1619109201639482_3601273138088130858_n.jpg?oh=b3dc023e63373bd76b08bfe32b16b88f&oe=56006DE0&__gda__=1446008552_1f326ea9050b1fc598b6443546521098 Fucking cringe on multiple levels |
12:59.24 | Hachiman | What bothers me the most i the misuse of the word "senpai" |
12:59.28 | Hachiman | is even |
12:59.52 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10313221_1411511632509090_7193308351301026477_n.jpg?oh=afd0ead7193beb86d8041996288320ed&oe=55FA7E7A This was in the responses so I am made happy again hur |
13:00.24 | OluapWorker | >not "me kill fucking" |
13:00.26 | OluapWorker | pleb |
13:00.40 | Hachiman | hur |
13:03.45 | Hachiman | "Man Hires Stripper to Give Five Year Old Nephew a Lap Dance" |
13:03.57 | OluapWorker | Hachi - yey |
13:04.38 | Hachiman | non |
13:07.01 | Hachiman | So I was pondering to myself today regarding Descension energy and how it draws upon the imbalance of the self as opposed to Elemental's drawing upon balance with others |
13:07.26 | Hachiman | I eventually came to the conclusion that if a Descension user got effectively atomized then they would not be able to recover from it |
13:09.34 | OluapWorker | fire da nukes |
13:09.43 | Hachiman | Well aside from Controlled Descension users but still |
13:09.55 | Hachiman | Currently there are almost none of those |
13:10.10 | Monet | I thought atomising was always the best way to kill them |
13:12.06 | Hachiman | So Descended individuals can effectively be destroyed by mortal weaponry |
13:12.30 | OluapWorker | Getting atomized would probably destroy most Corruptus demons as well, though stuff like Shu'wokerama's vanguards could be revived even if completely obliterated |
13:14.11 | Hachiman | Aye |
13:31.17 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1544413_2240081362705708_6479245770674550471_n.jpg?oh=32d8b6a5b53a780a43e66049f60321f6&oe=55FD0028 "Always make sure your tattooist uses clean needles!" |
13:31.50 | OluapWorker | That's disgusting |
13:32.05 | Hachiman | Well yeah |
13:32.07 | OluapWorker | Don't post that kind of thing in public without a warning pls |
13:32.23 | Hachiman | dis aint a fukn blu board |
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13:34.55 | Hachiman | Fucking internet honestly |
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13:46.26 | Wormydroid | Hi |
13:47.27 | Ghel | Hello. |
13:47.35 | Hachiman | Hai |
13:48.33 | Hachiman | So apparently it is common American practice to eat pasta such as spaghetti with spoons alongside forks |
13:48.38 | Hachiman | I am left to wonder why |
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13:48.53 | OluapWorker | Spaghetti with spoons |
13:49.09 | OluapWorker | Sounds like handicapping yourself on purpose |
13:49.15 | Hachiman | Aye exactly |
13:49.47 | Hachiman | Apparently what they do is catch and twirl the spaghetti with the fork and place it onto the spoon instead of just eating it straight off the fork |
13:49.49 | Hachiman | Like why |
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14:10.23 | Hachiman | I have been thinking of revising the current Zazane model alongside the Ottzelloan Zazane one although I feel that would cause a lot of problems considering the models I have already outfitted |
14:10.45 | Hachiman | Like, making the Zazane appear more defined and muscular |
14:13.19 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
14:13.57 | Hachiman | ayy |
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14:17.10 | OluapWorker | Yes that would require a gigantic amount of remodelling |
14:17.31 | Hachiman | Which is a shame really |
14:17.49 | Hachiman | I should have remodelled the Zazane before doing Tyraz' stuff |
14:17.57 | Hachiman | The other Zazane were up for remodelling anyway |
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14:21.27 | Wormy_ | Hi |
14:21.48 | Wormy_ | By the way, offend Kim Jong Un and he sends his goons after you |
14:22.05 | Hachiman | hur |
14:22.19 | Wormy_ | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/15/north-koreans-complain-london-hairdresser-kim-jong-un |
14:22.46 | OluapWorker | Well he needs to send his goons after at least 6 billion people by now |
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14:25.30 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
14:26.39 | Ghel | Hello. |
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14:27.40 | drom | OluapWorker: North Korea has a population of ~25 million. |
14:27.53 | OluapWorker | Earth has 6 billion people in it |
14:28.30 | drom | silly me, I misread billion as million |
14:30.11 | Monet | Well, 7 billion by now |
14:30.21 | Monet | Still lotta people |
14:30.47 | Ghel | Yes, but one billion of those have yet to offend Kim Jong Un. |
14:31.14 | drom | ~1.4 of the 7 billion people live in China |
14:31.22 | Wormy_ | OluapWorker: http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Wormulon%7C2267110959%3Asast-501016624132 |
14:31.58 | Monet | Ah right |
14:32.05 | OluapWorker | He has his own little outfit |
14:32.06 | Monet | Actually, who knows |
14:32.23 | Monet | China's and NK's relationship is a little rocky right now |
14:32.32 | Wormy_ | Titanozor wouldn't want a naked person on his shoulder |
14:33.10 | Wormy_ | China doesn't want NK to cause tensions, because if there is a war, they would have millions of refugees |
14:33.14 | OluapWorker | lel |
14:34.08 | drom | Secondly. Billion is completely different from the American and British (10^9) and the otherwise globally billion (10^12). |
14:34.16 | Hachiman | I am sure Hachi would want a naked person on his shoulder |
14:34.18 | drom | So this can cause confusion. |
14:34.25 | Hachiman | Not Buuuk in particular |
14:34.30 | drom | Hachiman: You mean on his body |
14:34.43 | Hachiman | >implying shoulder is not a body part |
14:35.09 | OluapWorker | He can have a naked Malcaeum on his shoulder |
14:35.30 | Hachiman | Malcaeum are already naked though hur |
14:35.41 | drom | Well. I meant on his LAP |
14:36.02 | OluapWorker | Exactly |
14:36.21 | OluapWorker | He gets all the haterape he wants from a lizard-faced Bloodletter |
14:36.58 | Hachiman | non |
14:38.29 | drom | If parrots were able to understand human lingustics, rather than mimicing then for no reason, they wouldn't understand this subject. |
14:40.53 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxgr_GtFnU |
14:42.16 | drom | Wormy_: I love how the newcasts are in low resolution but have high-resolution texts. |
14:42.32 | Wormy_ | yeah |
14:44.03 | Wormy_ | Also on a budget of £98, spent about as much on that on alcohol on my trip to Arran in a week. So not bad under that budget. |
14:44.37 | Hachiman | This looks fucking awful |
14:44.52 | Hachiman | But for a film with a £98 budget it looks fantastic hur |
14:45.27 | Hachiman | Plus the storytelling seems somewhat believable for a sci-fi film |
14:45.29 | Wormy_ | My thoughts exactly. It pleases me that it uses the concept of a Pandora's box technology |
14:46.11 | Wormy_ | The idea where aliens give us the codes for a machine, we build it out of curiosity or greed and it turns out to destroy us. |
14:47.30 | Hachiman | This is a British film I would assume hur |
14:48.50 | Wormy_ | Dunno, I translated 150 dollars to British pounds |
14:50.15 | Hachiman | Disregarding the CGI, which is not comparitively awful, the premise of the film is fit for something like a multi-million dollar movie or a novel |
14:56.11 | drom | Reminds me about Chappie hur |
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14:58.37 | Wormy_ | drom, Hachiman, Monet, Ghel: I thought it was opne of those crappy CGI vids of aliens but this turned out to be pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymV9G7BwBzo |
15:01.36 | Hachiman | Looks pretty cool |
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15:15.52 | drom | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/y3JkbR1.jpg |
15:17.17 | Wormy_ | lol |
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15:45.22 | drom_ | Wormy_ Monet Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiH3L3XpJHY#t=62 |
15:47.10 | Wormy_ | Extra sausage |
15:52.16 | drom_ | It is a formal tradition for the Europe to talk shit about Britain nowadays. |
15:53.28 | Hachiman | Go ahead, British folk talk shit about Britain as well |
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15:55.28 | dino82_ | helowz all |
15:55.48 | Ghel | Hello. |
15:56.09 | drom_ | The thing is, the trash talk is usually more edgy and critizing than the talk I hear from Brits. |
15:58.33 | drom_ | But they in common do only tell a single obvious point: stupid ego-bloated bigots. |
16:02.14 | Wormy_ | Man runs from a dust devil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aRR86VfTY |
16:05.11 | Wormy_ | I suppose iot could be fake, or enhanced |
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16:09.41 | Comrade_Vinny | Hey Charles! |
16:11.55 | Charles_Murray | Hey! |
16:24.32 | drom_ | Wormy_: Either way he is a lunatic. |
16:24.37 | drom_ | Hey AB |
16:25.47 | Wormy_ | The origin of this stuff is interesting. I now kn ow what I next want in my collection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_desert_glass |
16:28.21 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/wI9xoeL |
16:28.27 | drom_ | Hachiman: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150608/civic-center/jail-doctors-made-man-impotent-by-failing-treat-6-day-erection-lawuit |
16:28.55 | Hachiman | To be fair |
16:29.02 | Hachiman | A six-day erection sounds utterly horrifying |
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16:30.10 | The_Randomness | Hello |
16:30.32 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/Xt6sX2h |
16:31.54 | drom_ | Wormy_: Nu - Run Hachi! Ruuuuuuuuuun! *evil laughter* |
16:32.21 | Hachiman | Oh shit he made it |
16:33.43 | drom_ | http://i.imgur.com/h7cr5hQ.jpg |
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16:36.50 | drom_ | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/VQNbv9p.webm |
16:37.41 | Wormy_ | So a firedevil + tumbleweed |
16:38.16 | Wormy_ | "Oh what a lovely day!" |
16:38.19 | The_Randomness | I'll be back in a bit |
16:41.50 | drom_ | http://i.imgur.com/nmgwnMl.jpg |
16:42.43 | drom_ | Wormy_: http://imgur.com/gallery/589O5S2 |
16:43.22 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/HmaGZgr |
16:43.43 | Wormy_ | lol |
16:44.03 | Wormy_ | no North Korea! |
16:45.50 | Wormy_ | Mexico "Don't patronise people" |
16:46.05 | Wormy_ | I'm jealous of that rule. |
16:46.49 | drom_ | Indeed. We need to learn to patronize people less and acknowledge their challenge. |
16:47.59 | Wormy_ | As for UK on the queue |
16:48.22 | Wormy_ | I have been shouted at for people thinking I'm cutting ahead of the line when I'm not |
16:48.42 | Wormy_ | Like at the bus stop, just waling through |
16:48.49 | Wormy_ | brb dinner |
16:50.06 | drom_ | Monet http://i.imgur.com/MRnSG1q.webm |
16:50.17 | drom_ | ugh fucking clipboard |
16:50.31 | drom_ | Monet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WS65tPb2Cs the video is funnier |
16:54.36 | drom_ | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/tM7SfDk.jpg |
16:55.45 | Hachiman | olol |
16:58.07 | drom_ | Ghel "Dihydrogen Monoxide CAN rust steel beams!" |
17:04.04 | Hachiman | My ex is attempting to speak to me |
17:04.07 | Hachiman | Fucking help |
17:04.59 | OluapWorker | Just ignore her |
17:06.31 | drom_ | Hachiman OluapWorker: http://i.imgur.com/Ui7jbOW.jpg |
17:06.48 | Hachiman | Oh my God those fucking babies |
17:07.15 | OluapWorker | I don't get it |
17:07.51 | drom_ | http://i.imgur.com/voJ8zjv.jpg |
17:08.12 | drom_ | "you're a paladin you're supposed to be lawful good you cannot sell orphans." |
17:08.39 | drom_ | These are Out-Of-Context D&D quotes. |
17:08.54 | Hachiman | I love OOC D&D |
17:10.04 | drom_ | http://i.imgur.com/W68EF6b.jpg |
17:11.12 | Hachiman | olol |
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17:14.52 | drom_ | Xho http://i.imgur.com/QJjkoXB.gif |
17:15.21 | Xho | Drom_: Gotta hand it to the other guy for moving that fast down the stairs |
17:15.52 | drom_ | Well you can move that fast on escalators |
17:15.59 | Hachiman | Holy shit that guy |
17:16.16 | OluapWorker | spu |
17:16.34 | Xho | u |
17:16.52 | Xho | I've been thinking all day and I want to make an expy of Kotal Kahn in the fantasyverse |
17:16.56 | Xho | Because Kotal Kahn is awesome |
17:17.05 | Hachiman | We already have Aztecs |
17:17.07 | OluapWorker | wat dat |
17:17.09 | Hachiman | aka Freelanders |
17:17.35 | Xho | Kotal Kahn is the Emperor of a realm called Outworld in the Mortal Kombat series |
17:17.40 | Xho | And yes he's a giant green aztec guy |
17:17.54 | Hachiman | Could be a feral Shiarchon warlord since you discussed about the possibility of feral Shiarchon existing outside of the Legion |
17:18.16 | Xho | Well not feral |
17:18.18 | Xho | Dissident |
17:18.28 | Hachiman | Nonetheless not with the Legion hur |
17:18.46 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mkwikia/images/a/a8/Kotal_MKX_Render_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150410153450 But he is pretty damn cool |
17:19.41 | Xho | And in the Mortal Kombat lore he is the war god of the Mayans |
17:19.50 | Hachiman | I honestly prefer Kotal over Shao at this point for being multi-dimensional |
17:20.12 | Hachiman | As in personality |
17:20.18 | Xho | Me too |
17:21.02 | Hachiman | Also was it by coincidence that Kotal's surname is Kahn like Shao's was or is "Kahn" a title for Outworld rulers |
17:21.58 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11096688_10153946823430476_3466058946470628348_n.png?oh=711190b8eeefcc89f5dbb73bee1a9e34&oe=55F8E4E1 |
17:21.59 | Xho | Kotal is his surname |
17:22.09 | Xho | Or family name |
17:22.16 | Hachiman | Oh right |
17:22.23 | Xho | But yeah I think Kahn is an emperor title |
17:24.31 | Xho | I'd say Kotal is closer to good than evil |
17:24.33 | Xho | Still not entirely good |
17:25.59 | Hachiman | Well-intentioned extremist I would say |
17:26.14 | Hachiman | A people-oriented person rather than a self-oriented one |
17:29.19 | Wormy_ | http://www.finni.be/F/albums/animals/ |
17:29.54 | Wormy_ | dat Jack Russel looks ready to bite hur |
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17:54.21 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unirex "Policy: To unite the universe under the Brahmins for the benefit of all" |
17:54.26 | Hachiman | >Brahmins |
17:57.21 | OluapWorker | I don't get it |
17:59.04 | Hachiman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmin |
17:59.37 | Hachiman | Vedic Hindu priests, teachers, and preachers |
18:00.19 | drom | Thought it was a fruther informal form of brodmin (bro admin) |
18:00.25 | Hachiman | If the guy wanted accuracy in his fiction, he should have noted his ruling caste as Kshatriyas, who are Vedic Hindu warriors, kings, and governors |
18:11.12 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10941116_747702265341964_1651088862309693651_n.jpg?oh=16d29c2691c5405593f6e8eb0074fdef&oe=55FC1AD6 |
18:11.34 | Wormy_ | Monet: In Space Engine do you ever get the problem where the music is so good you don't want to move to another object because the music changes? |
18:11.40 | OluapWorker | olol |
18:14.07 | Monet | Wormy_: Not yet |
18:16.02 | drom | Hachiman: And that's how we invented http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob |
18:20.46 | Wormy_ | I look more forward to SE's development than No Man's Sky tbh |
18:21.02 | Hachiman | I look forward to both of them hur |
18:21.19 | Hachiman | I wanna see ayy lmaos in my realistic procedurally-generated universe simulator |
18:21.57 | Wormy_ | I wonder how NMS's engine can support so many simulated creatures when SE's engine cannot support all of that activity at once |
18:24.40 | Xho | Hachiman: I thought he was on about those two-headed cows in Fallout |
18:25.38 | Xho | I have an idea of a race I want to put into the Fantasyverse |
18:25.47 | Xho | But I dunno what kind of being they'd be classified as |
18:26.42 | OluapWorker | op shi |
18:26.46 | Hachiman | Well, share dis |
18:26.50 | Xho | They're basically large human shaped people who have ice-white skin |
18:26.52 | Xho | So like White Walkers |
18:26.55 | Xho | But not evil and apocalyptic |
18:27.13 | Hachiman | So Aithrena |
18:27.23 | Xho | Well they're not foresty or dark either |
18:27.32 | Hachiman | White Walkers are pretty foresty and dark |
18:27.38 | Xho | They live in the polar regions of Koldenwelt |
18:27.50 | Xho | As in, actually live in icy mountain cities |
18:28.11 | Hachiman | Would they be elves or something else? |
18:28.20 | Xho | I'm thinking giants perhaps |
18:29.06 | Xho | But they're a civilisation with religion based around Kartansimal |
18:29.14 | Hachiman | So frost giants |
18:29.19 | OluapWorker | I'm not going to make anymore races to the fantasyverse since I don't see myself using half of the things I made so far |
18:29.21 | Xho | Frost giants but not actually giant |
18:29.26 | Hachiman | deys jotunn |
18:29.43 | Xho | I suppose they are like Jotunn when I think about it |
18:29.44 | Hachiman | OluapWorker: but wordlbuildin |
18:29.53 | Xho | Jotunn are cool though because NORSE |
18:30.00 | OluapWorker | Is useless if it serves no purpose |
18:30.38 | Xho | As for their actual size, I'm thinking probably taller than an Orichalcum Elf but not fully fledged giant |
18:30.46 | Xho | Though it's close I guess |
18:31.06 | Hachiman | So |
18:31.07 | Hachiman | Giant hur |
18:31.12 | Xho | Yeah hur |
18:32.07 | OluapWorker | I'm thinking of deleting some of this extra stuff |
18:32.12 | Hachiman | non |
18:32.15 | Hachiman | Why would you do that |
18:32.15 | OluapWorker | Their presence or absence makes no impact |
18:32.34 | Xho | The possible history behind them is that they were perhaps Orichalcum Elves once that became what they are now |
18:32.55 | Hachiman | Like what sort of stuff are you considering deleting |
18:33.13 | OluapWorker | What I have not yet used and probably won't use |
18:33.26 | Xho | Or I'll leave their history unexplained |
18:33.41 | Xho | I have enough ancient civilisations as it is and I don't really want to make any more |
18:34.11 | Xho | But this way I get my Kotal Kahn character who is a frost giant |
18:34.25 | Xho | That and Kartansimal becomes relevant |
18:34.29 | Xho | And the Frost Drakes |
18:34.49 | Hachiman | OluapWorker: That is rather dum honestly, it feels like you are making your stuff emptier |
18:35.03 | Hachiman | You never know when you will get the chance to use it |
18:35.07 | OluapWorker | It doesn't since it's insignificant |
18:35.17 | OluapWorker | Like I said their presence or absence makes no impact in the setting |
18:36.03 | Xho | Hm now what to call their civilisation |
18:36.04 | Xho | Hm |
18:36.44 | Xho | I would use Borealis Empire as borealis = north in Latin but for obvious reasons I can't |
18:37.28 | drom | As a Swede, Borealis sounds more like Borrelia to me. |
18:37.49 | Hachiman | Septentrion |
18:38.00 | drom | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease |
18:38.21 | Xho | Oh yeah that works |
18:38.27 | Wormy_ | Delivered by tick bites. |
18:38.30 | Hachiman | The Septentrion Expanse or something |
18:38.49 | drom | It is very common up here. |
18:39.39 | Xho | The Septentrion Governance |
18:39.40 | Xho | hm |
18:39.46 | Xho | I like that |
18:40.50 | Wormy_ | drom: On my to Arran, I put my glass board down (for notes) and when I picked it back up it was covered in ticks. It was disgusting |
18:40.57 | Wormy_ | *my trip to |
18:41.40 | Monet | OluapWorker: Some of the stuff can be good just to read. |
18:42.00 | Monet | As Hachi said it makes fiction see mfuller, more whole whe nthere's plenty of detail. |
18:42.25 | OluapWorker | I don't see the point if this detail is irrelevant to the rest of the setting |
18:42.56 | Hachiman | It is like you never heard of fluff before |
18:43.21 | drom | Wormy_: Which Arran? |
18:43.22 | Hachiman | Like about half the stuff that gets featured in WH40k never gets used in novels or stories |
18:43.34 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
18:44.19 | Wormy_ | The one that is next to the other bit of land that looks like a dick |
18:45.01 | Monet | Every great franchise has a good amount of fluff. |
18:45.18 | Wormy_ | Isle of Arran |
18:45.40 | drom | Ah, that Scottish island |
18:46.04 | OluapWorker | I don't remember getting any feedback from the pages I have in mind, so that's another thing |
18:46.28 | OluapWorker | There are other stuff I would remove but they're already too linked to other users' fiction to just retcon out |
18:46.35 | Wormy_ | I had a geology trip there a couple of years ago |
18:46.42 | Hachiman | Why are you suddenly thinking so negatively |
18:46.45 | Wormy_ | But the ticks were everywhere |
18:47.30 | OluapWorker | This has been in my mind for many days now |
18:48.22 | Xho | Well do so if you want |
18:48.52 | Xho | We like all the minor details but if you're not happy with that area then remove it |
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18:50.21 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5f/KoldenweltTMapCurrent.png/revision/latest?cb=20141206121202 Added the Septentrion Governance there |
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18:51.24 | Ghelae | That reminds me; whatever happened to those Cydonians? |
18:51.43 | Xho | Dunno |
18:51.54 | Xho | I think their influence is so minor territories aren't worth adding on there |
18:51.54 | OluapWorker | Don't even know what that is |
18:52.11 | Xho | Those owl sphinx golem things I made that one time |
18:52.24 | OluapWorker | Right |
18:52.41 | Xho | I haven't actually ever added them so they're non-canon as of now |
18:54.31 | Xho | I suppose those frost giants are gonna be called Septentrions now |
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18:57.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
18:59.08 | dino82_ | hello |
19:01.02 | OluapWorker | Time to head home |
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19:05.02 | drom_ | Wormy_ http://i.imgur.com/gUTaK0Q.png |
19:06.31 | Wormy_ | lol |
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19:12.07 | Jepardi | Hi |
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19:14.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
19:18.06 | dino82_ | bye bye |
19:26.05 | Wormy_ | Didn't know Tim Curry had a stroke http://imgur.com/gallery/j5K08 |
19:26.49 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/VvNDqKL |
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19:34.40 | Hachiman | Fucking restarted by accident |
19:34.43 | The_Randomness | heh |
19:37.12 | Comrade_Vinny | Wormy_: I think you mean glorious Soviet Premier: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/20/curryra3.jpg |
19:39.33 | drom_ | oh shit forgot he actually was one of the actors in RA3 |
19:40.05 | Comrade_Vinny | Yah, him and Emperor Takei where the best |
19:40.49 | drom_ | the president is probably the only most hateable character I know in RA3 |
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19:47.49 | drom_ | I felt pleasure when I killed him when he tried to escape from Mount Rushmore. |
19:48.54 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b2/EmperorSek-Avizikh.png/revision/latest?cb=20150609194816 And here are the Septentrions |
19:50.32 | Hachiman | They look pretty cool |
19:50.42 | Hachiman | What are their relations with the Neva? |
19:50.47 | Xho | Positive |
19:51.22 | Xho | They're friendly with the more civilised Néva tribes |
19:51.32 | Xho | They're not so fond of Bone-Breaker's tribe |
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19:51.47 | Xho | return of ups |
19:52.15 | Xho | As for the Dalmiric Kingdom, the Septentrions are uneasy with them |
19:52.33 | OluapPlayer | get blahd |
19:52.41 | Xho | Mainly because the Septentrions are aware of the dark presences that operate there |
19:53.56 | Xho | They're somewhat friendly with the Orayu as well |
19:56.55 | Xho | I think I need a name for the island they live on |
19:57.08 | Xho | "That Goddamn Frozen Island" |
19:57.53 | drom_ | Iceland |
19:58.01 | Xho | Septentrion - well done 10/10 |
19:58.13 | Monet | Cept Iceland is green for half of the year |
19:58.23 | Xho | Algid Haven |
19:58.26 | Xho | That works |
19:58.28 | drom_ | Greenland |
19:58.34 | Monet | drom_: That works |
19:58.38 | drom_ | That's the exact opposite of Iceland |
19:58.44 | Wormy_ | interesting discussion http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/k252g/if_all_the_dna_in_my_body_vanished_right_now_how/ |
19:58.45 | Monet | Or Svalbard. |
19:59.36 | drom_ | Wormy_: That question was already answered by Randall Munroe in his What If book, if I can recall correctly. |
20:00.24 | drom_ | You'd be few grams to 1 kg lighter, and you'll have only few hours to live due to necrosis as there is no DNA = no regenation. |
20:00.36 | drom_ | regreneration* |
20:00.49 | Monet | Hachiman: I was just pondering. You considered that atomisation could kill a Descended being, but then I think you implied that Controlled Demons could recover. |
20:01.14 | Hachiman | Yeah, Controlled Demons are capable of reforming themselves |
20:01.46 | Hachiman | I meant it would be painful and it would take time |
20:02.01 | OluapPlayer | It would be extremely painful |
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20:02.07 | Hachiman | But they would exist as a disembodied consciousness of sorts until they can reform their bodies |
20:02.23 | Monet | I think COntrolled Demons jsut became a lot deadlier |
20:02.57 | Monet | Since regular Descended if they died like that their consciousness would be met with oblivion. |
20:03.35 | Monet | If Controlled Demons can survive though, They must be the stuff of nightmares for Zazane |
20:03.36 | Wormy_ | I's surprised teleporters aren't weaponised in sci-fi |
20:03.58 | Wormy_ | The DCP method of torture might be to remove more and more DNA from a victim |
20:04.18 | Wormy_ | or an analogous structure |
20:04.37 | Monet | A being who no matter how many times their body is destroyed just won't cessate. |
20:05.01 | Hachiman | It is easier for Controlled Demons to revert back to Uncontrolled than it is to kill them |
20:05.42 | Hachiman | You can only be "killed" so many times until you lose the capacity to control your emotions |
20:05.55 | Monet | Good point. |
20:06.45 | Monet | So I guess the best strategy is to keep killing them until they are driven insane. |
20:07.07 | Hachiman | Aye |
20:07.31 | Monet | But then if I recall you have a Demon form with the damage potential of a Controlled Demon. |
20:08.03 | Hachiman | You do and it varies in strength in regards to Zazane |
20:08.41 | Monet | Although the frequency of death might be another factor. |
20:09.17 | Hachiman | A more stabilised Demon - which is the smaller variant that Tyraz assumes now as opposed to his old colossal variant - is practically a demonstration of the damage potential of a Controlled Demon |
20:09.36 | Hachiman | It lacks the capacity to be actively guided however |
20:10.24 | Hachiman | It is largely guided by an individual's subconscious and/or suppressed thoughts or by what an individual may be thinking at the time they assume their Demon Form |
20:11.43 | Monet | Suddenly I can see the logic of Tyraz shitting bricks after Uriel rescued Alessa: Volkarus had effectively come back from the dead. |
20:12.01 | Hachiman | Aye |
20:12.20 | Monet | He had done what Tyraz had heard only Descended beings of myth could do. |
20:13.05 | Monet | Unfortunately now that Volk is tapping into the powers of the Mali'Nar his misconception might be reality. |
20:13.53 | Monet | COme to think of it if he does crack this ability then... |
20:14.34 | Monet | He'd be a Nar capable of reforming his own body. The incapability for most Nars to do that is why BK is in his head. |
20:15.53 | Monet | Volk is definitely a very major independant player in the eternal conflict of supernatural balance. |
20:16.13 | OluapPlayer | There we go, cleanup is done |
20:16.20 | OluapPlayer | As much as I can clean up at least |
20:16.37 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: That wasn't nearly half as much as what I was expecting |
20:17.05 | OluapPlayer | As i said, I would only remove irrelevant things |
20:17.25 | OluapPlayer | There are more races I'd like to get rid of but they're too integrated in canon for me to do that |
20:17.25 | Hachiman | Monet: By the 2800s I reckon it would be Volkarus and Hachiman vying against one another since the two are growing in their strength |
20:19.02 | Monet | Hachiman: After Kol's death, Volk likely turned his attention to him. He's largely ignorant of the Realm of Dreams so in his eyes Hachi's another wildcard to his schemes. |
20:20.15 | Monet | I think one of the big dangers in Volk is he bears no alliegence to any of the godlike entities we have. |
20:21.15 | Monet | He's demonic but doesn't follow the Xhodocto, his Mali'Nar partners are an exile and an ancient rescued from the past, doesn't follow the COrruptus |
20:21.47 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/DkGIHMT |
20:21.48 | Xho | Angazhar - in a universe like urs dat not gud |
20:22.09 | Monet | And to top it all of he's an intergalactic crime lord with contacts within the Gigaquadrant's elite. |
20:22.21 | Hachiman | If Volk is not careful he may get attacked by both anti-mortal and pro-mortal supernatural forces |
20:23.43 | Monet | He plays a dangerous game, yeah |
20:24.16 | Hachiman | Plus the Imperium and others are beginning to engineer and utilise anti-Essence weaponry, and the Indoctrinate Collective has showed its capacity to outright emulate the effects of Dream energy |
20:24.36 | OluapPlayer | Indocs - not our problem |
20:24.53 | Monet | Volkarus - Good thing I'm not alone then. |
20:24.55 | Hachiman | So the Gigaquadrant is getting to the stage where supernatural forces are being equalled by mortalkind and their technology |
20:25.12 | Xho | Santorakh - y'all motherfuckers need scourging |
20:25.14 | drom_ | DCP - Ya all so sweet *erdicates all with superweaponry* |
20:25.28 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Septentrion And there we go |
20:25.31 | Monet | Hachiman: Actually that's one of the things Volkarus is playing off of lately |
20:26.17 | Monet | His new organisation, the House of the Unseen Hand, uses technology that both mimics and is derived from understanding of Nar technology and ability. |
20:27.27 | drom_ | I wonder what can I create for the Sovereignty without exaggerating the rule of cool. |
20:28.14 | Monet | Volkarus knows that eventually both sides of the 'Nars might notice what he's doing and hunt him. So he's been developing a means to level the playing field. |
20:28.43 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/AcqgSca.gif |
20:29.07 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "Keep Mahedore alive and use his assets to boost the Corruptus " |
20:29.12 | Xho | That isn't impossible you know |
20:29.19 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Well ouch |
20:29.24 | Xho | The Xhodocto could revive him |
20:29.39 | drom_ | Wormy_: https://youtu.be/dERqm54GMbg |
20:29.40 | Xho | More specifically, Krath could |
20:29.54 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/8Ny5EeY.gif |
20:30.05 | Monet | Arsac - Can we keep him catatonic this time? |
20:30.21 | Xho | Krath - eh do that yourself |
20:30.41 | Hachiman | I have wondered to myself about whether Hachiman would be willing to do a Civil War Tony Stark and pose an affront to supernatural entities that claim domain over primarily mortal populations |
20:30.43 | Monet | Arsac - I nominate myself then. |
20:30.53 | Hachiman | But then that would be a more radical and less credible version of Hachiman |
20:31.08 | Wormy_ | drom_ http://scrolldowntoriker.com/ |
20:31.18 | Xho | Hachiman: Hachi - KITHWORTO I'M TIRED OF YOUR SHIT Kithworto - turn that way and keep walking dum wabbit |
20:32.05 | Hachiman | Hachiman's opinion is largely that supernatural entities such as himself should be more consultants rather than direct leaders |
20:32.16 | drom_ | Wormy_: That was scary |
20:33.13 | Monet | Hachiman: If he avoids stuff like the cape-killers and ressurected cyborg gods, I can see the idea working |
20:34.18 | drom_ | ZaalqorÃum - Are you really convincing me to do "Chaotic Neutral" stuff, eh? |
20:34.19 | Monet | He could drive his movement by acting as more of a consultant himself. |
20:34.32 | Monet | Settign an example |
20:34.42 | Hachiman | Yeah that would make sense |
20:35.03 | Monet | Also makes a nice setup for his later days. |
20:35.10 | Monet | later years* |
20:35.33 | Hachiman | I set to have him become a sort of Jedi-esque teacher to teach selected students and volunteers Dream energy mastery at some point |
20:35.51 | Xho | So I have four of the five giant species on Koldenwelt |
20:35.53 | Xho | moar giants pls |
20:35.57 | Wormy_ | drom_ Grin's TNG recuts are best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfDo86TFiBY |
20:36.07 | Hachiman | His basic opinion is that politics should not be mixed with the supernatural |
20:36.27 | Xho | He must implode when the Dominion comes to mind |
20:36.50 | Hachiman | The Dominion is largely why he thinks the supernatural should stay out of politics hur |
20:36.58 | Hachiman | Alongside the Devourer's Chosen and the Corruptus |
20:37.05 | Xho | Santorakh - politics or cheese you decide |
20:37.11 | Monet | Actually this has gotten me thinking. Uriel has plenty of supernatural protectors. But all his advisors and consultants have been quite firmly mortal. |
20:37.46 | Monet | Except for the occasional "supernatural ally consultation" |
20:38.43 | drom_ | Well. How many naturally supernatural leaders do exist in Fictionverse so far? |
20:39.02 | Xho | Hm |
20:39.05 | drom_ | I know Tyromarion.. what more? |
20:39.25 | Monet | And Uriel is one of the more well-versed mortal leaders in the supernatural. Given his companion highlords are supers and he holds close ties to Kithworto. |
20:39.31 | Xho | Politcally intertwined the only natural supernatural leader I have is Kithworto |
20:39.46 | OluapPlayer | It's too late to revive Mahedore now that I already consolidated the servants as they are now |
20:39.58 | OluapPlayer | When I say keep him alive, I meant retcon his death out completely |
20:40.12 | Xho | Oh |
20:40.19 | Xho | Hm |
20:40.32 | Xho | I guess we could change the terms of Mahedore not doing what Angazhar asks |
20:40.48 | Monet | That was what killed him irrc |
20:40.50 | Hachiman | "Remove all mentions of element affiliation from the Erylia and the Hikamera" "Remove the Khalmartia and the Caxildiz from fantasyverse canon" |
20:40.55 | Hachiman | You can do that |
20:41.07 | Xho | Elemental affiliation is easy enough |
20:41.12 | OluapPlayer | Can't, too integrated into canon |
20:41.17 | Hachiman | But you can |
20:41.31 | OluapPlayer | That'd be like retconning the Dracogonarious to be cavemen |
20:41.37 | Hachiman | Don't be dum |
20:41.51 | Xho | Be mud instead |
20:42.15 | OluapPlayer | If that is all you have to say then say nothing because "don't be dum" isn't a convincing argument |
20:42.35 | Hachiman | Nothing is stopping you from removing the Khalmartia |
20:42.41 | Monet | So I guess in the 2800s, Hachiman could frequent the courts of the Draconid Imperium. Maybe, especially after Realm of Giants, one of Uriel's consultants. |
20:42.56 | Hachiman | Plus you can erase the elemental affiliation of the Erylia and Hikamera, nothing is stopping you |
20:43.49 | Monet | After their adventures in the Draconizaneverse and Macronormus, Uriel holds great respect for Hachi. |
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20:44.20 | Hachiman_ | Fucking ugh |
20:44.32 | OluapPlayer | I can't remove the main trait of the race, if I removed the fire of the Erylia I should as well remove the whole race |
20:44.33 | Monet | Hachiman: After their adventures in the Draconizaneverse and Macronormus, Uriel holds great respect for Hachi. |
20:44.53 | OluapPlayer | And the Khalmartia are integrated into Oevrumine and Soverengty canon so I can't just remove them either |
20:45.06 | Hachiman | I can edit Oevrumine and Sovereignty canon |
20:45.26 | Hachiman | Plus I do not see how you cannot remove the fire aspect of the Erylia |
20:46.28 | Xho | You could half-remove the element aspect from the Erylia |
20:46.56 | Xho | Like, have a magically attuned 'caste' of Erylia that have natural pyromatic abilities dependent on mood |
20:47.04 | Xho | And the rest not so much |
20:47.27 | OluapPlayer | Too much hassle, I'm not going to change it |
20:47.40 | Xho | sahdfgjlskdfhsfsdjhksljsgh |
20:47.43 | Hachiman | Wow |
20:48.07 | Hachiman | I am trying to discuss with you how you would make it better and how we could make it work |
20:48.50 | Monet | I like theidea of a caste system |
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20:49.17 | Monet | Also I c potential in it for conflict. |
20:49.29 | Xho | pyromantic* |
20:49.37 | Xho | Can't believe I didn't notice that sooner |
20:49.56 | drom_ | don't mate with the fire mate |
20:50.30 | Monet | A group of people who are much better at pyromancy than everyone else but only when emotional? THere could be tension there |
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20:51.05 | Hachiman | Also, honestly your argument is not so convincing either when canon is incredibly flexible |
20:51.56 | drom_ | My ideas with the Nomatari Sovereignty feels more like they are going in a direction where it is a better idea to put them in a seperate universe or in an independent novel. |
20:52.30 | Hachiman | drom_: Then do that |
20:52.32 | Monet | drom_: How do you mean? |
20:52.49 | Xho | I really need to expand further on my personal universe but blah |
20:52.59 | OluapPlayer | Again I'm not going to remove the most fundamental aspect of the fiction |
20:53.11 | OluapPlayer | I could use the caste idea but I'm not going to remove the element |
20:53.29 | Hachiman | We are not telling you to remove the element if you do not want to |
20:53.44 | Hachiman | Besides why do you even have a problem with it |
20:54.01 | OluapPlayer | I don't like the idea of elemental elves and I regret making my elves elemental-based |
20:54.18 | drom_ | I'm againt the idea of putting it in a seperate universe due to the unique trait; collaboration. Without that trait, makes the writing less alive and fun. |
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20:54.47 | Monet | drom_: What ideas are encouraging the feelign so separation though? |
20:55.57 | Hachiman | Well then just say they are not element-based and the ones that have appeared using fire powers just so happened to be trained pyromancers |
20:57.44 | drom_ | I want to make more use of the Nomatari Sovereignty and there is few numbers of fiction that requires more than itself. But I'm not the kind of person demanding other people to join. Secondly, we everyone has this selfish ego. |
20:58.52 | Monet | Draconis are also kinda selfish, never stopped them. |
20:59.30 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/UCMdylz.webm |
21:00.33 | drom_ | Monet: No, I meant the ego as a writer and owner of a fiction you are expecting to be truly omnipotent. |
21:01.01 | drom_ | We all have this fantasy. |
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21:01.30 | Hachiman | drom: What does that even have to do with anything |
21:01.52 | Hachiman | If you want to be omnipotent, make a personal fiction |
21:01.55 | Hachiman | Simple as that |
21:01.56 | Monet | drom_: I suppose but when there is no challenge to a fiction things are kind-of boring. |
21:02.11 | drom_ | Exactly |
21:02.22 | Monet | So al ot of us put this ego you suggest aside because we get mroe fun that way |
21:06.37 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/4QXQxFD.webm |
21:09.01 | Wormy_ | Hachi Martian trailer is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue4PCI0NamI |
21:11.29 | drom_ | Thirdly, I find them too much demanding. And I've the impression that there isn't enough space for fiction/events occuring between 2700 and 2800. I've a sense of fiction occuring before 2700, but I doubt if these will be vaild. |
21:12.40 | Monet | We just need the right explainations |
21:12.50 | Wormy_ | Looks like it could be a another hard SF film |
21:13.10 | Monet | If they were here before 2760, what stops them fro mexisting before 2701? |
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21:14.53 | drom_ | I know that people hate to recon fiction, right? |
21:15.11 | Xho | I've done it a lot recently |
21:15.17 | Xho | So no not really |
21:15.33 | Charles_Murray | I tend to be really reluctant in doing so |
21:15.38 | Ghelae | Retconning fiction is one of the main things I do on SporeWiki. |
21:15.51 | Ghelae | I'm probably a little more retcon-happy than most, though. :P |
21:16.10 | Charles_Murray | Since a lot of other people's continuity is based off of yours, and retconning your continuity almost invariably messes a lot of other people up. |
21:16.35 | Monet | That's the main obstacle with retcon, but it can also be interesting |
21:16.38 | Charles_Murray | But sometimes it's really necessary |
21:16.50 | Tek0516 | I think we all have a cycle of varying length where we look at something we wrote, cringe, then rewrite it. |
21:17.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:17.29 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
21:17.44 | DrodoEmpire | Or obliterate it. :p |
21:18.04 | Charles_Murray | Like some rock-related war we once engaged in :P |
21:18.12 | Tek0516 | Lol |
21:20.23 | Tek0516 | Also, does anyone have any recommendations for a good sci-fi book? I'm in a bookstore trying to find something to read. :P |
21:20.59 | Xho | Wormy would suggest the Xeelee Sequence |
21:21.09 | Wormy_ | ^ |
21:21.11 | Xho | c |
21:21.17 | Wormy_ | It is breathtaking |
21:21.43 | Wormy_ | The whole history of the universe plus the next 5 million years (universe ends prematurely) |
21:22.13 | Monet | A ovel by Clarke is always an intriguing read |
21:22.17 | Monet | novel* |
21:22.32 | Tek0516 | I'll see if they have it, if not I'm sure the library does. Just need to find my card. XD |
21:22.34 | Monet | If Time's Eye is in stock, get it. |
21:22.53 | Monet | It's an intriguing combination of science fiction and historical fantasy. |
21:23.13 | Wormy_ | Other books by Baxter I'd also recommend, like Proximam or Manifold series. But I also like the Culture novels by Iain Banks and have been reading Ringworld by Larry Niven recently. |
21:23.28 | drom_ | If you by any chance find Long Earth, I can recommend you that book. |
21:23.34 | drom_ | It is also by Baxter. |
21:23.45 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11412346_10206658071910969_5869347286953053402_n.jpg?oh=eeb21f7d3d8bdb914f2aff9d3b57bb81&oe=56312832 |
21:24.09 | drom_ | I didn't finish reading it yet, but so far I did really enjoy reading it. |
21:24.53 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_%28novel%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelike_Infinity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raft_%28novel%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_%28Baxter_novel%29 |
21:25.11 | Wormy_ | You'll most likely find them in one book called the Xeelee Omnibus |
21:25.55 | Tek0516 | By Baxter they have... Manifold Time, Iron Winter, The Time Ships, Flood and Proxima. |
21:26.22 | Monet | WOrmy didn't you say Proxima? |
21:27.00 | Hachiman | Yeah Proxima |
21:27.02 | Wormy_ | I did, Proxima is awesome |
21:27.09 | Monet | I tried getting FLood for my dad but I think he got bored of it. THen again I don't think he's that keen on Baxter after I questioned him abotu Time's Eye. |
21:27.17 | Monet | I didn't try sorry |
21:27.23 | Monet | I got it as a birthday present. |
21:27.30 | Monet | But I think he skim-reads |
21:27.42 | Wormy_ | Well, its very different to the Xeelee Sequence. |
21:28.12 | Wormy_ | In Proxima the story changes quite rapidly |
21:28.20 | Tek0516 | They don't seem to have any Xeelee novels here |
21:28.46 | Wormy_ | You'll definately find them on Amazon |
21:29.50 | Wormy_ | Tbh I'd recommend Vacuum Diagrams as the first book to introduce one to the sequence |
21:29.59 | Wormy_ | But there is no reading order |
21:30.48 | Wormy_ | Collection of short stories, but full of exotic aliens, technology, humanity's rise and fall, and the Xeelee's evacuation of the universe, and the Photino victory |
21:32.14 | Tek0516 | Interesting |
21:33.57 | Tek0516 | I'll give Proxima a try and see if our local/my university's library has the Xeelee novels afterwards |
21:35.40 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
21:36.01 | Tek0516 | Vacuum Diagrams: "0 available at this store. 0 available in stores nearby." Yep. They definitely don't have it. :P |
21:41.15 | Wormy_ | "Baryonic life was scattered, smashed, its resources wasted â largely by humanity â on absurd, failed assaults against the Xeelee." |
21:41.42 | Tek0516 | Oh. Our local library doesn't have it either. :/ |
21:42.08 | Wormy_ | http://www.amazon.ca/Vacuum-Diagrams-Xeelee-Sequence-Stephen-ebook/dp/B0012095DU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433886120&sr=8-1&keywords=Vacuum+Diagrams |
21:43.40 | Wormy_ | And the kindle app is free for other devices and computers I think |
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21:49.03 | Wormy_ | In Exultant 13 billion lives were lost daily trying to rid the Xeelee from the galactic core, and this had been going on for over ten thousands years |
21:49.23 | Wormy_ | Humanity is pretty stagnant and depressing in that era |
21:49.50 | Wormy_ | The Interim Coalition of Governance is the Imperium of Man's fantasy |
21:51.06 | Wormy_ | The Xeelee universe has this weird aura of being optimistic and pessimistic at the same time |
21:51.46 | Wormy_ | Exultant era humanity has enough resources to ruin the SporeWikiverse in a day |
21:52.25 | DrodoEmpire | Except for the Relica, of course |
21:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | >:3 |
21:52.36 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ARelica |
21:53.31 | Wormy_ | Perhaps |
21:53.37 | Wormy_ | Perhaps not |
21:53.58 | Wormy_ | You see they get into a temporal deadlock with the Xeelee, essentially FTL foreknowledge |
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21:57.37 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
21:57.44 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
21:58.07 | Hachiman | WEAKLING |
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21:58.31 | Hachiman | Why they are bringing their arguments to our wiki I dunno |
21:59.50 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/bij0U |
21:59.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah this is dumb |
21:59.58 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
22:03.11 | ImpyDroid | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/QV5stEH.jpg |
22:03.38 | The_Randomness | is back |
22:11.02 | drom_ | ImpyDroid: While that change is neat, I prefer the older. |
22:11.19 | ImpyDroid | Well the older ones are still there |
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22:12.54 | Quark8 | Hello. |
22:13.21 | Aeo | DrodoEmpire: Actually, the person complaining was technically correct (the best kind of correct). Knowing the physiological sex of the persons involve does not tell us their gender, which means the couple could be of any orientation. |
22:14.13 | Hachiman | But the person analysing the bones and skulls did not mention anything about gender |
22:14.17 | Aeo | ImpyDroid: OMG that is amazing. |
22:14.27 | Hachiman | They analysed the physiological sex |
22:14.57 | Hachiman | In that sense, the person complaining was in the wrong to complain in the first place despite her own analyses being correct but not relevant |
22:15.29 | drom_ | Raaaah! One down, two to go! |
22:16.02 | drom_ | Terrible or not, I'll eventually go back and look through and try to improve it. |
22:17.03 | Aeo | Trans people don't like being referred to as "male" when they identify as women and vice versa. Whether or not such a phrase is technically correct (the best kind of correct) depends on the definitional scheme, but if we're using one that takes time out of its day to be nice to trans people, and we should, the person was still right. |
22:17.13 | DrodoEmpire | In other words they were super-bitchy. |
22:17.23 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
22:17.34 | Hachiman | But trans people had nothing to do with the argument |
22:17.47 | DrodoEmpire | Biological sex is male or female. That what he referred to. End of story. |
22:17.50 | Hachiman | Biologically, based on skull definition, the person could tell which sex either person was |
22:17.57 | DrodoEmpire | How you identify is a different story entirely |
22:18.11 | drom_ | Hachiman: https://i.imgur.com/vPezluS.png |
22:18.20 | DrodoEmpire | HAH |
22:18.22 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
22:18.23 | drom_ | Now I know what to show my weeaboo friends |
22:18.30 | Hachiman | drom_: ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki dayo |
22:18.39 | Hachiman | Which roughly translates to "I love big penis" |
22:19.11 | Hachiman | Which is also the only non-formal Japanese phrase I know and can put together hur |
22:19.52 | drom_ | "Trash-chan belongs in the trash-can." |
22:20.05 | Aeo | Duly noted. I'll need that if I ever go to japan. |
22:20.30 | Hachiman | Good luck getting big dick in Japan |
22:20.36 | Hachiman | Wait that was racist of me, redact that |
22:21.22 | drom_ | http://i.imgur.com/isPA9s6.jpg |
22:24.00 | drom_ | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/5vFYVrs.jpg |
22:24.17 | Hachiman | Her face fucking sells it for me |
22:24.57 | drom_ | https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11391164_10153061549358737_7307051835428759299_n.jpg?oh=2bd5dcb89fa83c0e136faa1ac47a4ae8&oe=56334F2B |
22:25.13 | Hachiman | olol |
22:26.24 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod |
22:26.35 | drom_ | http://40.media.tumblr.com/1a11ab7c055bc26c4efdb8212fe1e568/tumblr_npm70kddYz1repuito1_1280.jpg |
22:27.10 | Hachiman | Gotta go with Beefmaster |
22:27.52 | The_Randomness | oh gosh, tomatoes |
22:28.01 | The_Randomness | my dad has so many tomato plants |
22:29.13 | drom_ | http://i.imgur.com/P76YsEp.jpg |
22:29.33 | drom_ | His shirt is the icing on the cake |
22:31.37 | Hachiman | https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/1406621576027564/?pnref=story Fucking amazing |
22:34.34 | drom_ | who the fuck rides on an extremely bumpy road with an open bottle of soda and no seatbelts |
22:35.22 | Hachiman | People who are Russian to get somewhere |
22:37.50 | drom_ | Love how the guy in the red-grey jacket looks so confused like he is high or something |
22:37.51 | Aeo | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5d/36/68/5d3668c2ea53bf561a456e98e441672a.jpg |
22:40.53 | Hachiman | http://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/zxdf.png Well then |
22:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
22:50.20 | Hachiman | Oh boy, the Nostalgia Critic uploaded a review of the shitty action sci-fi/fantasy film Jupiter Ascending |
22:50.35 | Hachiman | Which is effectively a woman's equivalent of Michael Bay's Transformers |
23:00.28 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/Y5Om5W4 |
23:00.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Link? |
23:01.24 | Hachiman | http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-jupiter-ascending/ |
23:08.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
23:11.33 | Monet | Hallo |
23:12.33 | Hachiman | Monet: Considering you went to see Jupiter Ascending in cinema, I cannot imagine how much you must have suffered |
23:12.45 | Monet | Actually I didn't lol |
23:13.13 | Monet | I just said I was intrigued by the visual effects. |
23:14.10 | Monet | Their pitch sounds virtually indistinguishable from The Matrix! |
23:14.20 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/NHEUMEN |
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23:15.25 | drom | Jupiter Ascending looks more like a novel written by some femmie and has Riddick written all over it. |
23:19.20 | Monet | "Jupiter rising, 23 ascendant" I'm a bit unsure if its right to cry destiny on the location of a planet that can only be seen with a telescope. |
23:19.34 | Monet | using the location ,rather |
23:22.30 | Hachiman | I love how Tatum's character, Caine Wise, tells the titular character, Jupiter Jones, that he is a 'splice' and he retains more canine genetics than he does human ones and Jupiter tries to justify their sudden romantic relationship with the fact she always loved dogs |
23:22.33 | Hachiman | Like what the fuck |
23:22.42 | The_Randomness | wtf |
23:22.48 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
23:23.16 | Monet | So he is majority canine gene but could pass of as a Star Trek alien. |
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23:23.37 | Hachiman | Yeah |
23:23.53 | Hachiman | Also I love how she goes from being this toilet cleaner to the monarch of an interplanetary empire of transhumans and her performance implies that she is not astounded by this development at all |
23:23.55 | Monet | Plus points for directors not assuming "genetic hybrid" = looks like a 50/50 mix. |
23:24.08 | Monet | But still |
23:24.49 | Monet | It would have been more convincing to say he was simply given a few canid traits. |
23:25.33 | Hachiman | Oh and she can guide and control terrestrial bees because apparently bees are genetically wired to perceive and follow royalty OUTSIDE OF THEIR RESPECTIVE BEE SPECIES |
23:25.54 | DrodoEmpire | k |
23:26.41 | Monet | ALso someone give that transhuman emperor dude a throat sweet. |
23:30.55 | Hachiman | I also love the irony behind the fact that the Wachowski Brothers had millions of dollars placed into the visual effects of the movie and yet most of the film consists of exposition and boring, unnecessary and uncharacteristic dialogue |
23:31.32 | Hachiman | Well, I cannot call them Wachowski *Brothers* anymore |
23:32.13 | Monet | "Wachowskis" works |
23:32.24 | Hachiman | But beside the point, it is almost as if the Wachowskies outright worked in reverse and opposed the guideline of "show, don't tell" |
23:34.39 | Monet | "legion" "entitled" "hunter" |
23:34.55 | Wormy_ | I lolled at the typical disney fairy story cliche where the woman thinks she is destined only to find love |
23:35.13 | Monet | Apparently the inhabitants of "The Verse" don't have massive imaginations for naming stuff |
23:35.51 | Hachiman | Honestly that is fortunate considering imagination got them names such as Jupiter fucking Jones |
23:36.11 | Wormy_ | dissapponting, I had higher hopes for that film when I first saw the trailer |
23:36.14 | Monet | THat poor girl must have been bullied badly |
23:36.24 | Hachiman | Where the fuck would Jupiter EVER be considered a normal name |
23:36.53 | Monet | Rome 1800 years ago, possibly. |
23:37.14 | Monet | And even then it'd probably be a bloke's name |
23:38.04 | Monet | Half this exposition could have been cool VFX |
23:40.01 | Monet | I admit "Uriel Ultanos" might be a silly name to some and a bit wierd. |
23:40.30 | Hachiman | But that is fine because he is an alien |
23:40.38 | Hachiman | Jupiter is an otherwise NORMAL HUMAN |
23:41.08 | Hachiman | Who, up until the events of the film, was supposed to be living in conventional society |
23:41.22 | Monet | Jones is a common-ish surname. |
23:41.38 | Monet | But Jupiter I agree soudns silly |
23:42.30 | Monet | I'm at the "Into Darkness planet" bit, and though all the exposition I forgot is she second generation human or not? |
23:42.38 | Monet | Earthian, whatever |
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23:44.23 | Hachiman_ | Either way it does not matter because really because she does literally nothing throughout the whole film except ask questions |
23:44.42 | Hachiman_ | Caine is a more interesting character than she is |
23:45.31 | Monet | The worst kidn of protagonist really |
23:45.47 | Monet | THis is starting to seem like Twilight in Space |
23:46.31 | Monet | We have a leading lady with the personality and energy of a plank of wood. |
23:46.48 | Hachiman_ | And her love interest is a dog |
23:47.44 | Monet | ...that's a very very good point lol |
23:48.21 | Hachiman | "Channing Tatum as Caine Wise, a genetically engineered soldier: half human and half canine, though this is not immediately visible. He has a tremendously powerful sense of smell that allows him to track a gene through the universe." |
23:48.29 | Hachiman | >track a gene through the universe |
23:49.02 | Wormy_ | lol |
23:49.13 | Monet | So... |
23:49.21 | Hachiman | "Sean Bean as Stinger Apini, a "Han Solo-type character". Stinger is half human and half honeybee, which gives him wings, speed, special vision, and a sense of loyalty. He is a former comrade of Caine's, but lives on Earth with his daughter." |
23:49.27 | Hachiman | >HALF HUMAN AND HALF HONEYBEE |
23:49.30 | Wormy_ | sounds like the story was a haphazard half arsed jumbling together |
23:49.33 | Hachiman | HIS NAME IS FUCKING STINGER# |
23:49.39 | Monet | Caine's nose is this? http://www.opencaching.de/images/uploads/F4F6A4B6-0507-11E2-AAE3-00163E0AF0A3.jpg |
23:50.11 | Monet | Wait if hes' half bee |
23:50.23 | Monet | Why didn't Jupiter mind control his ass? |
23:51.25 | Hachiman | Probably because she did not need to or rather did not know how to |
23:51.36 | Hachiman | And then proceeded never to use her honeybee powers again |
23:52.01 | Wormy_ | Jebus the film has been given a C rating by critics |
23:53.31 | Monet | I also see space dragons. |
23:55.33 | Monet | I feel secretly happy that despite the Wachowskis beating me in putting space dragons on the silver screen, they did it using cinema's "reptiles are thuggish brutes" trope |
23:56.07 | Hachiman | I swear space dragons have been on the silver screen before |
23:56.43 | Wormy_ | Space (?) / Regular dragons will be in an upcoming SF film btw] |
23:57.25 | Hachiman | Oh? |
23:57.57 | Wormy_ | The Leviathan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgFH-AXCpU |
23:58.29 | Wormy_ | though they might be more comparable to space serpents |
23:58.32 | Wormy_ | hi |
23:58.34 | Wormy_ | oh |
23:59.46 | Wormy_ | Looks like the art style is based more on 7-0's Second Golden Age rather than ipod sci-fi |