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01:24.24DrodoEmpireYourself?
01:25.27Quark8Fine.
01:26.43Quark8Though I am quite worried about my grandfather.
01:27.35DrodoEmpireOh
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11:18.37GhelaeHello.
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11:45.45GhelaeHello.
12:00.54MonetMight ask later but I'm rethinking Draconis architecture
12:02.09MonetJust wondering what kind of architecture would be devised by a species that is enthralled by beauty and has spent so long observing others or even creating its own form of life.
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12:04.17GhelaeAll kinds of architecture, I would imagine. If they're keen on the idea of natural beauty I could see them making buildings that resemble natural wonders like mountains and canyons.
12:04.19GhelaeHello.
12:06.13GhelaePerhaps cities made of photosynthesising buildings shaped like gigantic trees and covered in emerald and gold.
12:08.12MonetI had wondered just now about stuff like rock formations stylised and detailed into decorative arches.
12:09.07MonetI don't want to completely go the "Tolkien Elf City" route though.
12:10.31Monethttp://data1.whicdn.com/images/3876225/original.jpg hmm...
12:11.20MonetI do wonder about ocmbining Art Nouveau with something else
12:13.18Monethttp://www.evolo.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hong-Kong-Hydropolis-Hwang-Suh-02.jpg this looks intriguing
12:13.43MonetPerhaps...perhaps Draconid architecture is a combination of Art Nouveau decoration and organic curves?
12:16.28GhelaeThat should fit with the general theme of what I suggested; I wasn't thinking of a complete imitation of nature.
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12:17.42MonetHello
12:18.53OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
12:18.54infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
12:18.56MonetGiven advances in technology it could be that these skyscrapers have solar panels for windows.
12:18.58Hachiman<3
12:21.51Wormy_So Napoleon entered one of the tombs in the Eqyptian pyramids and had a frightful experience of such magnitude he ran out.  He refused to tell anyone what he saw, even before he died, saying "No, you'll never believe me"
12:21.58Wormy_Egyptian
12:22.32OluapWorkerNapoleon got spooked by the mummy skeletons
12:23.01MonetWormy_: Maybe he was almost posessed by a Goa'uld?
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12:23.19Ghel[13:18] <Monet> Given advances in technology it could be that these skyscrapers have solar panels for windows.
12:23.25GhelNot if they're visible-light solar panels: if the energy of light is absorbed for power generation, it won't be available to pass through the panel for people to see it.
12:23.37GhelAlthough it might be good for them to prevent infrared and ultraviolet light from reaching people inside a building by that method.
12:23.49Wormy_Monet:  Hm,that would explain things
12:24.34MonetGhel: Its possible.
12:24.42Wormy_The tomb looks like a Goa'uld sarcophagus
12:25.48MonetTHen again given the Imperium's capabilities, while solar panels in the city are convenient, there are much better places to put solar panels.
12:25.59MonetIn orbit of thep lanet, for one.
12:26.38MonetWhich would also be more useful for UV, X-ray and gamma ray-absorbing solar panels
12:27.04GhelSo like an artificial ozone layer made up of solar panels.
12:27.49MonetSeems like something the long-view-minded Draconis would do
12:28.07GhelIn the context of more fictional technology, perhaps this is part of how planetary shields work?
12:28.18Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/11415607_1406059242750464_613537355061576787_o.jpg frug
12:28.30Hachiman"My sister loved her new Koi Fish... She now hates my frog."
12:28.33GhelA planet-sized deflector shield that absorbs high-energy particles and uses their energy for power.
12:28.40MonetI figured planets like Alcanti have generators planetside designed to protect satellites from the more nasty solar flares.
12:31.00GhelSo rather than literal solid panels, the solar power array is a shell of gas and plasma just above the atmosphere.
12:32.16GhelWhether that's possible in the real world I don't know, but that goes for most properties of deflector shields in general.
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12:32.57MonetYou'd need one big magnetic field to keep the gas or plasma from dissipating into space.
12:33.44Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10433780_2239948342719010_371304779802886525_n.jpg?oh=59e68484645d8f250302059bcf5d4555&oe=55F0820D
12:33.51MonetSo theoretically...could work. Though in the real world we might not have a power source large or cheap enough for continuous operation.
12:35.03GhelThat's a general problem with such shields. Presumably they generate their own fields by the motion of their constituent particles, and/or they have some solid material arragnement where the shield bubble exists. You certainly don't want to be generating huge magnetic fields from the planet's surface.
12:36.17GhelAnd part of the idea here is that some power would come from solar light, cosmic rays, and possibly even variations in the planet's own magnetic field.
12:37.27GhelIn practice, I suppose that might not actually be enough to maintain such a shield, let alone provide excess power to the planet below.
12:37.50GhelBut planetary shields have appeared in the fictionverse, which is why the thought occured to me.
12:44.33MonetPerhaps two fields.
12:45.10MonetOne is a network of solar panels, the other is a plasma membrane
12:45.43MonetThe membrane could be boosted as-needed
12:46.06MonetWhile the solar panel network is suspended at a constant orbit.
12:59.05Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11416188_1619109201639482_3601273138088130858_n.jpg?oh=b3dc023e63373bd76b08bfe32b16b88f&oe=56006DE0&__gda__=1446008552_1f326ea9050b1fc598b6443546521098 Fucking cringe on multiple levels
12:59.24HachimanWhat bothers me the most i the misuse of the word "senpai"
12:59.28Hachimanis even
12:59.52Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10313221_1411511632509090_7193308351301026477_n.jpg?oh=afd0ead7193beb86d8041996288320ed&oe=55FA7E7A This was in the responses so I am made happy again hur
13:00.24OluapWorker>not "me kill fucking"
13:00.26OluapWorkerpleb
13:00.40Hachimanhur
13:03.45Hachiman"Man Hires Stripper to Give Five Year Old Nephew a Lap Dance"
13:03.57OluapWorkerHachi - yey
13:04.38Hachimannon
13:07.01HachimanSo I was pondering to myself today regarding Descension energy and how it draws upon the imbalance of the self as opposed to Elemental's drawing upon balance with others
13:07.26HachimanI eventually came to the conclusion that if a Descension user got effectively atomized then they would not be able to recover from it
13:09.34OluapWorkerfire da nukes
13:09.43HachimanWell aside from Controlled Descension users but still
13:09.55HachimanCurrently there are almost none of those
13:10.10MonetI thought atomising was always the best way to kill them
13:12.06HachimanSo Descended individuals can effectively be destroyed by mortal weaponry
13:12.30OluapWorkerGetting atomized would probably destroy most Corruptus demons as well, though stuff like Shu'wokerama's vanguards could be revived even if completely obliterated
13:14.11HachimanAye
13:31.17Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1544413_2240081362705708_6479245770674550471_n.jpg?oh=32d8b6a5b53a780a43e66049f60321f6&oe=55FD0028 "Always make sure your tattooist uses clean needles!"
13:31.50OluapWorkerThat's disgusting
13:32.05HachimanWell yeah
13:32.07OluapWorkerDon't post that kind of thing in public without a warning pls
13:32.23Hachimandis aint a fukn blu board
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13:34.55HachimanFucking internet honestly
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13:46.26WormydroidHi
13:47.27GhelHello.
13:47.35HachimanHai
13:48.33HachimanSo apparently it is common American practice to eat pasta such as spaghetti with spoons alongside forks
13:48.38HachimanI am left to wonder why
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13:48.53OluapWorkerSpaghetti with spoons
13:49.09OluapWorkerSounds like handicapping yourself on purpose
13:49.15HachimanAye exactly
13:49.47HachimanApparently what they do is catch and twirl the spaghetti with the fork and place it onto the spoon instead of just eating it straight off the fork
13:49.49HachimanLike why
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14:10.23HachimanI have been thinking of revising the current Zazane model alongside the Ottzelloan Zazane one although I feel that would cause a lot of problems considering the models I have already outfitted
14:10.45HachimanLike, making the Zazane appear more defined and muscular
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14:13.57Hachimanayy
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14:17.10OluapWorkerYes that would require a gigantic amount of remodelling
14:17.31HachimanWhich is a shame really
14:17.49HachimanI should have remodelled the Zazane before doing Tyraz' stuff
14:17.57HachimanThe other Zazane were up for remodelling anyway
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14:21.27Wormy_Hi
14:21.48Wormy_By the way, offend Kim Jong Un and he sends his goons after you
14:22.05Hachimanhur
14:22.19Wormy_http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/15/north-koreans-complain-london-hairdresser-kim-jong-un
14:22.46OluapWorkerWell he needs to send his goons after at least 6 billion people by now
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14:25.30AdmiralPandahi all
14:26.39GhelHello.
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14:27.40dromOluapWorker: North Korea has a population of ~25 million.
14:27.53OluapWorkerEarth has 6 billion people in it
14:28.30dromsilly me, I misread billion as million
14:30.11MonetWell, 7 billion by now
14:30.21MonetStill lotta people
14:30.47GhelYes, but one billion of those have yet to offend Kim Jong Un.
14:31.14drom~1.4 of the 7 billion people live in China
14:31.22Wormy_OluapWorker:  http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Wormulon%7C2267110959%3Asast-501016624132
14:31.58MonetAh right
14:32.05OluapWorkerHe has his own little outfit
14:32.06MonetActually, who knows
14:32.23MonetChina's and NK's relationship is a little rocky right now
14:32.32Wormy_Titanozor wouldn't want a naked person on his shoulder
14:33.10Wormy_China doesn't want NK to cause tensions, because if there is a war, they would have millions of refugees
14:33.14OluapWorkerlel
14:34.08dromSecondly. Billion is completely different from the American and British (10^9) and the otherwise globally billion (10^12).
14:34.16HachimanI am sure Hachi would want a naked person on his shoulder
14:34.18dromSo this can cause confusion.
14:34.25HachimanNot Buuuk in particular
14:34.30dromHachiman: You mean on his body
14:34.43Hachiman>implying shoulder is not a body part
14:35.09OluapWorkerHe can have a naked Malcaeum on his shoulder
14:35.30HachimanMalcaeum are already naked though hur
14:35.41dromWell. I meant on his LAP
14:36.02OluapWorkerExactly
14:36.21OluapWorkerHe gets all the haterape he wants from a lizard-faced Bloodletter
14:36.58Hachimannon
14:38.29dromIf parrots were able to understand human lingustics, rather than mimicing then for no reason, they wouldn't understand this subject.
14:40.53Wormy_Hachiman: Seen this?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxgr_GtFnU
14:42.16dromWormy_: I love how the newcasts are in low resolution but have high-resolution texts.
14:42.32Wormy_yeah
14:44.03Wormy_Also on a budget of £98, spent about as much on that on alcohol on my trip to Arran in a week.  So not bad under that budget.
14:44.37HachimanThis looks fucking awful
14:44.52HachimanBut for a film with a £98 budget it looks fantastic hur
14:45.27HachimanPlus the storytelling seems somewhat believable for a sci-fi film
14:45.29Wormy_My thoughts exactly.  It pleases me that it uses the concept of a Pandora's box technology
14:46.11Wormy_The idea where aliens give us the codes for a machine, we build it out of curiosity or greed and it turns out to destroy us.
14:47.30HachimanThis is a British film I would assume hur
14:48.50Wormy_Dunno, I translated 150 dollars to British pounds
14:50.15HachimanDisregarding the CGI, which is not comparitively awful, the premise of the film is fit for something like a multi-million dollar movie or a novel
14:56.11dromReminds me about Chappie hur
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14:58.37Wormy_drom, Hachiman, Monet, Ghel:  I thought it was opne of those crappy CGI vids of aliens but this turned out to be pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymV9G7BwBzo
15:01.36HachimanLooks pretty cool
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15:15.52dromWormy_: http://i.imgur.com/y3JkbR1.jpg
15:17.17Wormy_lol
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15:45.22drom_Wormy_ Monet Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiH3L3XpJHY#t=62
15:47.10Wormy_Extra sausage
15:52.16drom_It is a formal tradition for the Europe to talk shit about Britain nowadays.
15:53.28HachimanGo ahead, British folk talk shit about Britain as well
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15:55.28dino82_helowz all
15:55.48GhelHello.
15:56.09drom_The thing is, the trash talk is usually more edgy and critizing than the talk I hear from Brits.
15:58.33drom_But they in common do only tell a single obvious point: stupid ego-bloated bigots.
16:02.14Wormy_Man runs from a dust devil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7aRR86VfTY
16:05.11Wormy_I suppose iot could be fake, or enhanced
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16:09.41Comrade_VinnyHey Charles!
16:11.55Charles_MurrayHey!
16:24.32drom_Wormy_: Either way he is a lunatic.
16:24.37drom_Hey AB
16:25.47Wormy_The origin of this stuff is interesting.  I now kn ow what I next want in my collection.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_desert_glass
16:28.21Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/wI9xoeL
16:28.27drom_Hachiman: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150608/civic-center/jail-doctors-made-man-impotent-by-failing-treat-6-day-erection-lawuit
16:28.55HachimanTo be fair
16:29.02HachimanA six-day erection sounds utterly horrifying
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16:30.10The_RandomnessHello
16:30.32Wormy_Hachiman:  http://imgur.com/gallery/Xt6sX2h
16:31.54drom_Wormy_: Nu - Run Hachi! Ruuuuuuuuuun! *evil laughter*
16:32.21HachimanOh shit he made it
16:33.43drom_http://i.imgur.com/h7cr5hQ.jpg
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16:36.50drom_Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/VQNbv9p.webm
16:37.41Wormy_So a firedevil + tumbleweed
16:38.16Wormy_"Oh what a lovely day!"
16:38.19The_RandomnessI'll be back in a bit
16:41.50drom_http://i.imgur.com/nmgwnMl.jpg
16:42.43drom_Wormy_: http://imgur.com/gallery/589O5S2
16:43.22Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/HmaGZgr
16:43.43Wormy_lol
16:44.03Wormy_no North Korea!
16:45.50Wormy_Mexico "Don't patronise people"
16:46.05Wormy_I'm jealous of that rule.
16:46.49drom_Indeed. We need to learn to patronize people less and acknowledge their challenge.
16:47.59Wormy_As for UK on the queue
16:48.22Wormy_I have been shouted at for people thinking I'm cutting ahead of the line when I'm not
16:48.42Wormy_Like at the bus stop, just waling through
16:48.49Wormy_brb dinner
16:50.06drom_Monet http://i.imgur.com/MRnSG1q.webm
16:50.17drom_ugh fucking clipboard
16:50.31drom_Monet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WS65tPb2Cs the video is funnier
16:54.36drom_Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/tM7SfDk.jpg
16:55.45Hachimanolol
16:58.07drom_Ghel "Dihydrogen Monoxide CAN rust steel beams!"
17:04.04HachimanMy ex is attempting to speak to me
17:04.07HachimanFucking help
17:04.59OluapWorkerJust ignore her
17:06.31drom_Hachiman OluapWorker: http://i.imgur.com/Ui7jbOW.jpg
17:06.48HachimanOh my God those fucking babies
17:07.15OluapWorkerI don't get it
17:07.51drom_http://i.imgur.com/voJ8zjv.jpg
17:08.12drom_"you're a paladin you're supposed to be lawful good you cannot sell orphans."
17:08.39drom_These are Out-Of-Context D&D quotes.
17:08.54HachimanI love OOC D&D
17:10.04drom_http://i.imgur.com/W68EF6b.jpg
17:11.12Hachimanolol
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17:14.52drom_Xho http://i.imgur.com/QJjkoXB.gif
17:15.21XhoDrom_: Gotta hand it to the other guy for moving that fast down the stairs
17:15.52drom_Well you can move that fast on escalators
17:15.59HachimanHoly shit that guy
17:16.16OluapWorkerspu
17:16.34Xhou
17:16.52XhoI've been thinking all day and I want to make an expy of Kotal Kahn in the fantasyverse
17:16.56XhoBecause Kotal Kahn is awesome
17:17.05HachimanWe already have Aztecs
17:17.07OluapWorkerwat dat
17:17.09Hachimanaka Freelanders
17:17.35XhoKotal Kahn is the Emperor of a realm called Outworld in the Mortal Kombat series
17:17.40XhoAnd yes he's a giant green aztec guy
17:17.54HachimanCould be a feral Shiarchon warlord since you discussed about the possibility of feral Shiarchon existing outside of the Legion
17:18.16XhoWell not feral
17:18.18XhoDissident
17:18.28HachimanNonetheless not with the Legion hur
17:18.46Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/mkwikia/images/a/a8/Kotal_MKX_Render_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150410153450 But he is pretty damn cool
17:19.41XhoAnd in the Mortal Kombat lore he is the war god of the Mayans
17:19.50HachimanI honestly prefer Kotal over Shao at this point for being multi-dimensional
17:20.12HachimanAs in personality
17:20.18XhoMe too
17:21.02HachimanAlso was it by coincidence that Kotal's surname is Kahn like Shao's was or is "Kahn" a title for Outworld rulers
17:21.58Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11096688_10153946823430476_3466058946470628348_n.png?oh=711190b8eeefcc89f5dbb73bee1a9e34&oe=55F8E4E1
17:21.59XhoKotal is his surname
17:22.09XhoOr family name
17:22.16HachimanOh right
17:22.23XhoBut yeah I think Kahn is an emperor title
17:24.31XhoI'd say Kotal is closer to good than evil
17:24.33XhoStill not entirely good
17:25.59HachimanWell-intentioned extremist I would say
17:26.14HachimanA people-oriented person rather than a self-oriented one
17:29.19Wormy_http://www.finni.be/F/albums/animals/
17:29.54Wormy_dat Jack Russel looks ready to bite hur
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17:54.21Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unirex "Policy: To unite the universe under the Brahmins for the benefit of all"
17:54.26Hachiman>Brahmins
17:57.21OluapWorkerI don't get it
17:59.04Hachimanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmin
17:59.37HachimanVedic Hindu priests, teachers, and preachers
18:00.19dromThought it was a fruther informal form of brodmin (bro admin)
18:00.25HachimanIf the guy wanted accuracy in his fiction, he should have noted his ruling caste as Kshatriyas, who are Vedic Hindu warriors, kings, and governors
18:11.12Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10941116_747702265341964_1651088862309693651_n.jpg?oh=16d29c2691c5405593f6e8eb0074fdef&oe=55FC1AD6
18:11.34Wormy_Monet:  In Space Engine do you ever get the problem where the music is so good you don't want to move to another object because the music changes?
18:11.40OluapWorkerolol
18:14.07MonetWormy_: Not yet
18:16.02dromHachiman: And that's how we invented http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob
18:20.46Wormy_I look more forward to SE's development than No Man's Sky tbh
18:21.02HachimanI look forward to both of them hur
18:21.19HachimanI wanna see ayy lmaos in my realistic procedurally-generated universe simulator
18:21.57Wormy_I wonder how NMS's engine can support so many simulated creatures when SE's engine cannot support all of that activity at once
18:24.40XhoHachiman: I thought he was on about those two-headed cows in Fallout
18:25.38XhoI have an idea of a race I want to put into the Fantasyverse
18:25.47XhoBut I dunno what kind of being they'd be classified as
18:26.42OluapWorkerop shi
18:26.46HachimanWell, share dis
18:26.50XhoThey're basically large human shaped people who have ice-white skin
18:26.52XhoSo like White Walkers
18:26.55XhoBut not evil and apocalyptic
18:27.13HachimanSo Aithrena
18:27.23XhoWell they're not foresty or dark either
18:27.32HachimanWhite Walkers are pretty foresty and dark
18:27.38XhoThey live in the polar regions of Koldenwelt
18:27.50XhoAs in, actually live in icy mountain cities
18:28.11HachimanWould they be elves or something else?
18:28.20XhoI'm thinking giants perhaps
18:29.06XhoBut they're a civilisation with religion based around Kartansimal
18:29.14HachimanSo frost giants
18:29.19OluapWorkerI'm not going to make anymore races to the fantasyverse since I don't see myself using half of the things I made so far
18:29.21XhoFrost giants but not actually giant
18:29.26Hachimandeys jotunn
18:29.43XhoI suppose they are like Jotunn when I think about it
18:29.44HachimanOluapWorker: but wordlbuildin
18:29.53XhoJotunn are cool though because NORSE
18:30.00OluapWorkerIs useless if it serves no purpose
18:30.38XhoAs for their actual size, I'm thinking probably taller than an Orichalcum Elf but not fully fledged giant
18:30.46XhoThough it's close I guess
18:31.06HachimanSo
18:31.07HachimanGiant hur
18:31.12XhoYeah hur
18:32.07OluapWorkerI'm thinking of deleting some of this extra stuff
18:32.12Hachimannon
18:32.15HachimanWhy would you do that
18:32.15OluapWorkerTheir presence or absence makes no impact
18:32.34XhoThe possible history behind them is that they were perhaps Orichalcum Elves once that became what they are now
18:32.55HachimanLike what sort of stuff are you considering deleting
18:33.13OluapWorkerWhat I have not yet used and probably won't use
18:33.26XhoOr I'll leave their history unexplained
18:33.41XhoI have enough ancient civilisations as it is and I don't really want to make any more
18:34.11XhoBut this way I get my Kotal Kahn character who is a frost giant
18:34.25XhoThat and Kartansimal becomes relevant
18:34.29XhoAnd the Frost Drakes
18:34.49HachimanOluapWorker: That is rather dum honestly, it feels like you are making your stuff emptier
18:35.03HachimanYou never know when you will get the chance to use it
18:35.07OluapWorkerIt doesn't since it's insignificant
18:35.17OluapWorkerLike I said their presence or absence makes no impact in the setting
18:36.03XhoHm now what to call their civilisation
18:36.04XhoHm
18:36.44XhoI would use Borealis Empire as borealis = north in Latin but for obvious reasons I can't
18:37.28dromAs a Swede, Borealis sounds more like Borrelia to me.
18:37.49HachimanSeptentrion
18:38.00dromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease
18:38.21XhoOh yeah that works
18:38.27Wormy_Delivered by tick bites.
18:38.30HachimanThe Septentrion Expanse or something
18:38.49dromIt is very common up here.
18:39.39XhoThe Septentrion Governance
18:39.40Xhohm
18:39.46XhoI like that
18:40.50Wormy_drom:  On my to Arran, I put my glass board down (for notes) and when I picked it back up it was covered in ticks.  It was disgusting
18:40.57Wormy_*my trip to
18:41.40MonetOluapWorker: Some of the stuff can be good just to read.
18:42.00MonetAs Hachi said it makes fiction see mfuller, more whole whe nthere's plenty of detail.
18:42.25OluapWorkerI don't see the point if this detail is irrelevant to the rest of the setting
18:42.56HachimanIt is like you never heard of fluff before
18:43.21dromWormy_: Which Arran?
18:43.22HachimanLike about half the stuff that gets featured in WH40k never gets used in novels or stories
18:43.34Hachimanbrb dinner
18:44.19Wormy_The one that is next to the other bit of land that looks like a dick
18:45.01MonetEvery great franchise has a good amount of fluff.
18:45.18Wormy_Isle of Arran
18:45.40dromAh, that Scottish island
18:46.04OluapWorkerI don't remember getting any feedback from the pages I have in mind, so that's another thing
18:46.28OluapWorkerThere are other stuff I would remove but they're already too linked to other users' fiction to just retcon out
18:46.35Wormy_I had a geology trip there a couple of years ago
18:46.42HachimanWhy are you suddenly thinking so negatively
18:46.45Wormy_But the ticks were everywhere
18:47.30OluapWorkerThis has been in my mind for many days now
18:48.22XhoWell do so if you want
18:48.52XhoWe like all the minor details but if you're not happy with that area then remove it
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18:50.21Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5f/KoldenweltTMapCurrent.png/revision/latest?cb=20141206121202 Added the Septentrion Governance there
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18:51.24GhelaeThat reminds me; whatever happened to those Cydonians?
18:51.43XhoDunno
18:51.54XhoI think their influence is so minor territories aren't worth adding on there
18:51.54OluapWorkerDon't even know what that is
18:52.11XhoThose owl sphinx golem things I made that one time
18:52.24OluapWorkerRight
18:52.41XhoI haven't actually ever added them so they're non-canon as of now
18:54.31XhoI suppose those frost giants are gonna be called Septentrions now
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19:34.40HachimanFucking restarted by accident
19:34.43The_Randomnessheh
19:37.12Comrade_VinnyWormy_: I think you mean glorious Soviet Premier: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/20/curryra3.jpg
19:39.33drom_oh shit forgot he actually was one of the actors in RA3
19:40.05Comrade_VinnyYah, him and Emperor Takei where the best
19:40.49drom_the president is probably the only most hateable character I know in RA3
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19:47.49drom_I felt pleasure when I killed him when he tried to escape from Mount Rushmore.
19:48.54Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b2/EmperorSek-Avizikh.png/revision/latest?cb=20150609194816 And here are the Septentrions
19:50.32HachimanThey look pretty cool
19:50.42HachimanWhat are their relations with the Neva?
19:50.47XhoPositive
19:51.22XhoThey're friendly with the more civilised Néva tribes
19:51.32XhoThey're not so fond of Bone-Breaker's tribe
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19:51.47Xhoreturn of ups
19:52.15XhoAs for the Dalmiric Kingdom, the Septentrions are uneasy with them
19:52.33OluapPlayerget blahd
19:52.41XhoMainly because the Septentrions are aware of the dark presences that operate there
19:53.56XhoThey're somewhat friendly with the Orayu as well
19:56.55XhoI think I need a name for the island they live on
19:57.08Xho"That Goddamn Frozen Island"
19:57.53drom_Iceland
19:58.01XhoSeptentrion - well done 10/10
19:58.13MonetCept Iceland is green for half of the year
19:58.23XhoAlgid Haven
19:58.26XhoThat works
19:58.28drom_Greenland
19:58.34Monetdrom_: That works
19:58.38drom_That's the exact opposite of Iceland
19:58.44Wormy_interesting discussion http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/k252g/if_all_the_dna_in_my_body_vanished_right_now_how/
19:58.45MonetOr Svalbard.
19:59.36drom_Wormy_: That question was already answered by Randall Munroe in his What If book, if I can recall correctly.
20:00.24drom_You'd be few grams to 1 kg lighter, and you'll have only few hours to live due to necrosis as there is no DNA = no regenation.
20:00.36drom_regreneration*
20:00.49MonetHachiman: I was just pondering. You considered that atomisation could kill a Descended being, but then I think you implied that Controlled Demons could recover.
20:01.14HachimanYeah, Controlled Demons are capable of reforming themselves
20:01.46HachimanI meant it would be painful and it would take time
20:02.01OluapPlayerIt would be extremely painful
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20:02.07HachimanBut they would exist as a disembodied consciousness of sorts until they can reform their bodies
20:02.23MonetI think COntrolled Demons jsut became a lot deadlier
20:02.57MonetSince regular Descended if they died like that their consciousness would be met with oblivion.
20:03.35MonetIf Controlled Demons can survive though, They must be the stuff of nightmares for Zazane
20:03.36Wormy_I's surprised teleporters aren't weaponised in sci-fi
20:03.58Wormy_The DCP method of torture might be to remove more and more DNA from a victim
20:04.18Wormy_or an analogous structure
20:04.37MonetA being who no matter how many times their body is destroyed just won't cessate.
20:05.01HachimanIt is easier for Controlled Demons to revert back to Uncontrolled than it is to kill them
20:05.42HachimanYou can only be "killed" so many times until you lose the capacity to control your emotions
20:05.55MonetGood point.
20:06.45MonetSo I guess the best strategy is to keep killing them until they are driven insane.
20:07.07HachimanAye
20:07.31MonetBut then if I recall you have a Demon form with the damage potential of a Controlled Demon.
20:08.03HachimanYou do and it varies in strength in regards to Zazane
20:08.41MonetAlthough the frequency of death might be another factor.
20:09.17HachimanA more stabilised Demon - which is the smaller variant that Tyraz assumes now as opposed to his old colossal variant - is practically a demonstration of the damage potential of a Controlled Demon
20:09.36HachimanIt lacks the capacity to be actively guided however
20:10.24HachimanIt is largely guided by an individual's subconscious and/or suppressed thoughts or by what an individual may be thinking at the time they assume their Demon Form
20:11.43MonetSuddenly I can see the logic of Tyraz shitting bricks after Uriel rescued Alessa: Volkarus had effectively come back from the dead.
20:12.01HachimanAye
20:12.20MonetHe had done what Tyraz had heard only Descended beings of myth could do.
20:13.05MonetUnfortunately now that Volk is tapping into the powers of the Mali'Nar his misconception might be reality.
20:13.53MonetCOme to think of it if he does crack this ability then...
20:14.34MonetHe'd be a Nar capable of reforming his own body. The incapability for most Nars to do that is why BK is in his head.
20:15.53MonetVolk is definitely a very major independant player in the eternal conflict of supernatural balance.
20:16.13OluapPlayerThere we go, cleanup is done
20:16.20OluapPlayerAs much as I can clean up at least
20:16.37HachimanOluapPlayer: That wasn't nearly half as much as what I was expecting
20:17.05OluapPlayerAs i said, I would only remove irrelevant things
20:17.25OluapPlayerThere are more races I'd like to get rid of but they're too integrated in canon for me to do that
20:17.25HachimanMonet: By the 2800s I reckon it would be Volkarus and Hachiman vying against one another since the two are growing in their strength
20:19.02MonetHachiman: After Kol's death, Volk likely turned his attention to him. He's largely ignorant of the Realm of Dreams so in his eyes Hachi's another wildcard to his schemes.
20:20.15MonetI think one of the big dangers in Volk is he bears no alliegence to any of the godlike entities we have.
20:21.15MonetHe's demonic but doesn't follow the Xhodocto, his Mali'Nar partners are an exile and an ancient rescued from the past, doesn't follow the COrruptus
20:21.47Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/DkGIHMT
20:21.48XhoAngazhar - in a universe like urs         dat not gud
20:22.09MonetAnd to top it all of he's an intergalactic crime lord with contacts within the Gigaquadrant's elite.
20:22.21HachimanIf Volk is not careful he may get attacked by both anti-mortal and pro-mortal supernatural forces
20:23.43MonetHe plays a dangerous game, yeah
20:24.16HachimanPlus the Imperium and others are beginning to engineer and utilise anti-Essence weaponry, and the Indoctrinate Collective has showed its capacity to outright emulate the effects of Dream energy
20:24.36OluapPlayerIndocs - not our problem
20:24.53MonetVolkarus - Good thing I'm not alone then.
20:24.55HachimanSo the Gigaquadrant is getting to the stage where supernatural forces are being equalled by mortalkind and their technology
20:25.12XhoSantorakh - y'all motherfuckers need scourging
20:25.14drom_DCP - Ya all so sweet *erdicates all with superweaponry*
20:25.28Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Septentrion And there we go
20:25.31MonetHachiman: Actually that's one of the things Volkarus is playing off of lately
20:26.17MonetHis new organisation, the House of the Unseen Hand, uses technology that both mimics and is derived from understanding of Nar technology and ability.
20:27.27drom_I wonder what can I create for the Sovereignty without exaggerating the rule of cool.
20:28.14MonetVolkarus knows that eventually both sides of the 'Nars might notice what he's doing and hunt him. So he's been developing a means to level the playing field.
20:28.43Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/AcqgSca.gif
20:29.07XhoOluapPlayer: "Keep Mahedore alive and use his assets to boost the Corruptus "
20:29.12XhoThat isn't impossible you know
20:29.19DrodoEmpireWormy: Well ouch
20:29.24XhoThe Xhodocto could revive him
20:29.39drom_Wormy_: https://youtu.be/dERqm54GMbg
20:29.40XhoMore specifically, Krath could
20:29.54Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/8Ny5EeY.gif
20:30.05MonetArsac - Can we keep him catatonic this time?
20:30.21XhoKrath - eh do that yourself
20:30.41HachimanI have wondered to myself about whether Hachiman would be willing to do a Civil War Tony Stark and pose an affront to supernatural entities that claim domain over primarily mortal populations
20:30.43MonetArsac - I nominate myself then.
20:30.53HachimanBut then that would be a more radical and less credible version of Hachiman
20:31.08Wormy_drom_ http://scrolldowntoriker.com/
20:31.18XhoHachiman: Hachi - KITHWORTO I'M TIRED OF YOUR SHIT                          Kithworto - turn that way           and keep walking        dum wabbit
20:32.05HachimanHachiman's opinion is largely that supernatural entities such as himself should be more consultants rather than direct leaders
20:32.16drom_Wormy_: That was scary
20:33.13MonetHachiman: If he avoids stuff like the cape-killers and ressurected cyborg gods, I can see the idea working
20:34.18drom_Zaalqoríum - Are you really convincing me to do "Chaotic Neutral" stuff, eh?
20:34.19MonetHe could drive his movement by acting as more of a consultant himself.
20:34.32MonetSettign an example
20:34.42HachimanYeah that would make sense
20:35.03MonetAlso makes a nice setup for his later days.
20:35.10Monetlater years*
20:35.33HachimanI set to have him become a sort of Jedi-esque teacher to teach selected students and volunteers Dream energy mastery at some point
20:35.51XhoSo I have four of the five giant species on Koldenwelt
20:35.53Xhomoar giants pls
20:35.57Wormy_drom_ Grin's TNG recuts are best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfDo86TFiBY
20:36.07HachimanHis basic opinion is that politics should not be mixed with the supernatural
20:36.27XhoHe must implode when the Dominion comes to mind
20:36.50HachimanThe Dominion is largely why he thinks the supernatural should stay out of politics hur
20:36.58HachimanAlongside the Devourer's Chosen and the Corruptus
20:37.05XhoSantorakh - politics or cheese                     you decide
20:37.11MonetActually this has gotten me thinking. Uriel has plenty of supernatural protectors. But all his advisors and consultants have been quite firmly mortal.
20:37.46MonetExcept for the occasional "supernatural ally consultation"
20:38.43drom_Well. How many naturally supernatural leaders do exist in Fictionverse so far?
20:39.02XhoHm
20:39.05drom_I know Tyromarion.. what more?
20:39.25MonetAnd Uriel is one of the more well-versed mortal leaders in the supernatural. Given his companion highlords are supers and he holds close ties to Kithworto.
20:39.31XhoPolitcally intertwined the only natural supernatural leader I have is Kithworto
20:39.46OluapPlayerIt's too late to revive Mahedore now that I already consolidated the servants as they are now
20:39.58OluapPlayerWhen I say keep him alive, I meant retcon his death out completely
20:40.12XhoOh
20:40.19XhoHm
20:40.32XhoI guess we could change the terms of Mahedore not doing what Angazhar asks
20:40.48MonetThat was what killed him irrc
20:40.50Hachiman"Remove all mentions of element affiliation from the Erylia and the Hikamera" "Remove the Khalmartia and the Caxildiz from fantasyverse canon"
20:40.55HachimanYou can do that
20:41.07XhoElemental affiliation is easy enough
20:41.12OluapPlayerCan't, too integrated into canon
20:41.17HachimanBut you can
20:41.31OluapPlayerThat'd be like retconning the Dracogonarious to be cavemen
20:41.37HachimanDon't be dum
20:41.51XhoBe mud instead
20:42.15OluapPlayerIf that is all you have to say then say nothing because "don't be dum" isn't a convincing argument
20:42.35HachimanNothing is stopping you from removing the Khalmartia
20:42.41MonetSo I guess in the 2800s, Hachiman could frequent the courts of the Draconid Imperium. Maybe, especially after Realm of Giants, one of Uriel's consultants.
20:42.56HachimanPlus you can erase the elemental affiliation of the Erylia and Hikamera, nothing is stopping you
20:43.49MonetAfter their adventures in the Draconizaneverse and Macronormus, Uriel holds great respect for Hachi.
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20:44.20Hachiman_Fucking ugh
20:44.32OluapPlayerI can't remove the main trait of the race, if I removed the fire of the Erylia I should as well remove the whole race
20:44.33MonetHachiman: After their adventures in the Draconizaneverse and Macronormus, Uriel holds great respect for Hachi.
20:44.53OluapPlayerAnd the Khalmartia are integrated into Oevrumine and Soverengty canon so I can't just remove them either
20:45.06HachimanI can edit Oevrumine and Sovereignty canon
20:45.26HachimanPlus I do not see how you cannot remove the fire aspect of the Erylia
20:46.28XhoYou could half-remove the element aspect from the Erylia
20:46.56XhoLike, have a magically attuned 'caste' of Erylia that have natural pyromatic abilities dependent on mood
20:47.04XhoAnd the rest not so much
20:47.27OluapPlayerToo much hassle, I'm not going to change it
20:47.40Xhosahdfgjlskdfhsfsdjhksljsgh
20:47.43HachimanWow
20:48.07HachimanI am trying to discuss with you how you would make it better and how we could make it work
20:48.50MonetI like theidea of a caste system
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20:49.17MonetAlso I c potential in it for conflict.
20:49.29Xhopyromantic*
20:49.37XhoCan't believe I didn't notice that sooner
20:49.56drom_don't mate with the fire mate
20:50.30MonetA group of people who are much better at pyromancy than everyone else but only when emotional? THere could be tension there
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20:51.05HachimanAlso, honestly your argument is not so convincing either when canon is incredibly flexible
20:51.56drom_My ideas with the Nomatari Sovereignty feels more like they are going in a direction where it is a better idea to put them in a seperate universe or in an independent novel.
20:52.30Hachimandrom_: Then do that
20:52.32Monetdrom_: How do you mean?
20:52.49XhoI really need to expand further on my personal universe but blah
20:52.59OluapPlayerAgain I'm not going to remove the most fundamental aspect of the fiction
20:53.11OluapPlayerI could use the caste idea but I'm not going to remove the element
20:53.29HachimanWe are not telling you to remove the element if you do not want to
20:53.44HachimanBesides why do you even have a problem with it
20:54.01OluapPlayerI don't like the idea of elemental elves and I regret making my elves elemental-based
20:54.18drom_I'm againt the idea of putting it in a seperate universe due to the unique trait; collaboration. Without that trait, makes the writing less alive and fun.
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20:54.47Monetdrom_: What ideas are encouraging the feelign so separation though?
20:55.57HachimanWell then just say they are not element-based and the ones that have appeared using fire powers just so happened to be trained pyromancers
20:57.44drom_I want to make more use of the Nomatari Sovereignty and there is few numbers of fiction that requires more than itself. But I'm not the kind of person demanding other people to join. Secondly, we everyone has this selfish ego.
20:58.52MonetDraconis are also kinda selfish, never stopped them.
20:59.30Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/UCMdylz.webm
21:00.33drom_Monet: No, I meant the ego as a writer and owner of a fiction you are expecting to be truly omnipotent.
21:01.01drom_We all have this fantasy.
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21:01.30Hachimandrom: What does that even have to do with anything
21:01.52HachimanIf you want to be omnipotent, make a personal fiction
21:01.55HachimanSimple as that
21:01.56Monetdrom_: I suppose but when there is no challenge to a fiction things are kind-of boring.
21:02.11drom_Exactly
21:02.22MonetSo al ot of us put this ego you suggest aside because we get mroe fun that way
21:06.37Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/4QXQxFD.webm
21:09.01Wormy_Hachi  Martian trailer is out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue4PCI0NamI
21:11.29drom_Thirdly, I find them too much demanding. And I've the impression that there isn't enough space for fiction/events occuring between 2700 and 2800. I've a sense of fiction occuring before 2700, but I doubt if these will be vaild.
21:12.40MonetWe just need the right explainations
21:12.50Wormy_Looks like it could be a another hard SF film
21:13.10MonetIf they were here before 2760, what stops them fro mexisting before 2701?
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21:14.53drom_I know that people hate to recon fiction, right?
21:15.11XhoI've done it a lot recently
21:15.17XhoSo no not really
21:15.33Charles_MurrayI tend to be really reluctant in doing so
21:15.38GhelaeRetconning fiction is one of the main things I do on SporeWiki.
21:15.51GhelaeI'm probably a little more retcon-happy than most, though. :P
21:16.10Charles_MurraySince a lot of other people's continuity is based off of yours, and retconning your continuity almost invariably messes a lot of other people up.
21:16.35MonetThat's the main obstacle with retcon, but it can also be interesting
21:16.38Charles_MurrayBut sometimes it's really necessary
21:16.50Tek0516I think we all have a cycle of varying length where we look at something we wrote, cringe, then rewrite it.
21:17.16DrodoEmpire^
21:17.29Charles_Murray^
21:17.44DrodoEmpireOr obliterate it. :p
21:18.04Charles_MurrayLike some rock-related war we once engaged in :P
21:18.12Tek0516Lol
21:20.23Tek0516Also, does anyone have any recommendations for a good sci-fi book? I'm in a bookstore trying to find something to read. :P
21:20.59XhoWormy would suggest the Xeelee Sequence
21:21.09Wormy_^
21:21.11Xhoc
21:21.17Wormy_It is breathtaking
21:21.43Wormy_The whole history of the universe plus the next 5 million years (universe ends prematurely)
21:22.13MonetA ovel by Clarke is always an intriguing read
21:22.17Monetnovel*
21:22.32Tek0516I'll see if they have it, if not I'm sure the library does. Just need to find my card. XD
21:22.34MonetIf Time's Eye is in stock, get it.
21:22.53MonetIt's an intriguing combination of science fiction and historical fantasy.
21:23.13Wormy_Other books by Baxter I'd also recommend, like Proximam or Manifold series.  But I also like the Culture novels by Iain Banks and have been reading Ringworld by Larry Niven recently.
21:23.28drom_If you by any chance find Long Earth, I can recommend you that book.
21:23.34drom_It is also by Baxter.
21:23.45Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11412346_10206658071910969_5869347286953053402_n.jpg?oh=eeb21f7d3d8bdb914f2aff9d3b57bb81&oe=56312832
21:24.09drom_I didn't finish reading it yet, but so far I did really enjoy reading it.
21:24.53Wormy_Tek0516:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_%28novel%29  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelike_Infinity  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raft_%28novel%29  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_%28Baxter_novel%29
21:25.11Wormy_You'll most likely find them in one book called the Xeelee Omnibus
21:25.55Tek0516By Baxter they have... Manifold Time, Iron Winter, The Time Ships, Flood and Proxima.
21:26.22MonetWOrmy didn't you say Proxima?
21:27.00HachimanYeah Proxima
21:27.02Wormy_I did, Proxima is awesome
21:27.09MonetI tried getting FLood for my dad but I think he got bored of it. THen again I don't think he's that keen on Baxter after I questioned him abotu Time's Eye.
21:27.17MonetI didn't try sorry
21:27.23MonetI got it as a birthday present.
21:27.30MonetBut I think he skim-reads
21:27.42Wormy_Well, its very different to the Xeelee Sequence.
21:28.12Wormy_In Proxima the story changes quite rapidly
21:28.20Tek0516They don't seem to have any Xeelee novels here
21:28.46Wormy_You'll definately find them on Amazon
21:29.50Wormy_Tbh I'd recommend Vacuum Diagrams as the first book to introduce one to the sequence
21:29.59Wormy_But there is no reading order
21:30.48Wormy_Collection of short stories, but full of exotic aliens, technology, humanity's rise and fall, and the Xeelee's evacuation of the universe, and the Photino victory
21:32.14Tek0516Interesting
21:33.57Tek0516I'll give Proxima a try and see if our local/my university's library has the Xeelee novels afterwards
21:35.40Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:36.01Tek0516Vacuum Diagrams: "0 available at this store. 0 available in stores nearby." Yep. They definitely don't have it. :P
21:41.15Wormy_"Baryonic life was scattered, smashed, its resources wasted — largely by humanity — on absurd, failed assaults against the Xeelee."
21:41.42Tek0516Oh. Our local library doesn't have it either. :/
21:42.08Wormy_http://www.amazon.ca/Vacuum-Diagrams-Xeelee-Sequence-Stephen-ebook/dp/B0012095DU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433886120&sr=8-1&keywords=Vacuum+Diagrams
21:43.40Wormy_And the kindle app is free for other devices and computers I think
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21:49.03Wormy_In Exultant 13 billion lives were lost daily trying to rid the Xeelee from the galactic core, and this had been going on for over ten thousands years
21:49.23Wormy_Humanity is pretty stagnant and depressing in that era
21:49.50Wormy_The Interim Coalition of Governance is the Imperium of Man's fantasy
21:51.06Wormy_The Xeelee universe has this weird aura of being optimistic and pessimistic at the same time
21:51.46Wormy_Exultant era humanity has enough resources to ruin the SporeWikiverse in a day
21:52.25DrodoEmpireExcept for the Relica, of course
21:52.28DrodoEmpire>:3
21:52.36DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ARelica
21:53.31Wormy_Perhaps
21:53.37Wormy_Perhaps not
21:53.58Wormy_You see they get into a temporal deadlock with the Xeelee, essentially FTL foreknowledge
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21:58.07HachimanWEAKLING
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21:58.31HachimanWhy they are bringing their arguments to our wiki I dunno
21:59.50DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/bij0U
21:59.55DrodoEmpireYeah this is dumb
21:59.58DrodoEmpire:p
22:03.11ImpyDroidMonet: http://i.imgur.com/QV5stEH.jpg
22:03.38The_Randomnessis back
22:11.02drom_ImpyDroid: While that change is neat, I prefer the older.
22:11.19ImpyDroidWell the older ones are still there
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22:12.54Quark8Hello.
22:13.21AeoDrodoEmpire: Actually, the person complaining was technically correct (the best kind of correct). Knowing the physiological sex of the persons involve does not tell us their gender, which means the couple could be of any orientation.
22:14.13HachimanBut the person analysing the bones and skulls did not mention anything about gender
22:14.17AeoImpyDroid: OMG that is amazing.
22:14.27HachimanThey analysed the physiological sex
22:14.57HachimanIn that sense, the person complaining was in the wrong to complain in the first place despite her own analyses being correct but not relevant
22:15.29drom_Raaaah! One down, two to go!
22:16.02drom_Terrible or not, I'll eventually go back and look through and try to improve it.
22:17.03AeoTrans people don't like being referred to as "male" when they identify as women and vice versa. Whether or not such a phrase is technically correct (the best kind of correct) depends on the definitional scheme, but if we're using one that takes time out of its day to be nice to trans people, and we should, the person was still right.
22:17.13DrodoEmpireIn other words they were super-bitchy.
22:17.23DrodoEmpire:p
22:17.34HachimanBut trans people had nothing to do with the argument
22:17.47DrodoEmpireBiological sex is male or female. That what he referred to. End of story.
22:17.50HachimanBiologically, based on skull definition, the person could tell which sex either person was
22:17.57DrodoEmpireHow you identify is a different story entirely
22:18.11drom_Hachiman: https://i.imgur.com/vPezluS.png
22:18.20DrodoEmpireHAH
22:18.22DrodoEmpireXD
22:18.23drom_Now I know what to show my weeaboo friends
22:18.30Hachimandrom_: ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki dayo
22:18.39HachimanWhich roughly translates to "I love big penis"
22:19.11HachimanWhich is also the only non-formal Japanese phrase I know and can put together hur
22:19.52drom_"Trash-chan belongs in the trash-can."
22:20.05AeoDuly noted. I'll need that if I ever go to japan.
22:20.30HachimanGood luck getting big dick in Japan
22:20.36HachimanWait that was racist of me, redact that
22:21.22drom_http://i.imgur.com/isPA9s6.jpg
22:24.00drom_Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/5vFYVrs.jpg
22:24.17HachimanHer face fucking sells it for me
22:24.57drom_https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11391164_10153061549358737_7307051835428759299_n.jpg?oh=2bd5dcb89fa83c0e136faa1ac47a4ae8&oe=56334F2B
22:25.13Hachimanolol
22:26.24DrodoEmpireohgod
22:26.35drom_http://40.media.tumblr.com/1a11ab7c055bc26c4efdb8212fe1e568/tumblr_npm70kddYz1repuito1_1280.jpg
22:27.10HachimanGotta go with Beefmaster
22:27.52The_Randomnessoh gosh, tomatoes
22:28.01The_Randomnessmy dad has so many tomato plants
22:29.13drom_http://i.imgur.com/P76YsEp.jpg
22:29.33drom_His shirt is the icing on the cake
22:31.37Hachimanhttps://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/1406621576027564/?pnref=story Fucking amazing
22:34.34drom_who the fuck rides on an extremely bumpy road with an open bottle of soda and no seatbelts
22:35.22HachimanPeople who are Russian to get somewhere
22:37.50drom_Love how the guy in the red-grey jacket looks so confused like he is high or something
22:37.51Aeohttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5d/36/68/5d3668c2ea53bf561a456e98e441672a.jpg
22:40.53Hachimanhttp://www.cringechannel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/zxdf.png Well then
22:42.14DrodoEmpireOh
22:50.20HachimanOh boy, the Nostalgia Critic uploaded a review of the shitty action sci-fi/fantasy film Jupiter Ascending
22:50.35HachimanWhich is effectively a woman's equivalent of Michael Bay's Transformers
23:00.28DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/Y5Om5W4
23:00.37DrodoEmpireHachi: Link?
23:01.24Hachimanhttp://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-jupiter-ascending/
23:08.31DrodoEmpireHey
23:11.33MonetHallo
23:12.33HachimanMonet: Considering you went to see Jupiter Ascending in cinema, I cannot imagine how much you must have suffered
23:12.45MonetActually I didn't lol
23:13.13MonetI just said I was intrigued by the visual effects.
23:14.10MonetTheir pitch sounds virtually indistinguishable from The Matrix!
23:14.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/NHEUMEN
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23:15.25dromJupiter Ascending looks more like a novel written by some femmie and has Riddick written all over it.
23:19.20Monet"Jupiter rising, 23 ascendant" I'm a bit unsure if its right to cry destiny on the location of a planet that can only be seen with a telescope.
23:19.34Monetusing the location ,rather
23:22.30HachimanI love how Tatum's character, Caine Wise, tells the titular character, Jupiter Jones, that he is a 'splice' and he retains more canine genetics than he does human ones and Jupiter tries to justify their sudden romantic relationship with the fact she always loved dogs
23:22.33HachimanLike what the fuck
23:22.42The_Randomnesswtf
23:22.48DrodoEmpirewat
23:23.16MonetSo he is majority canine gene but could pass of as a Star Trek alien.
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23:23.37HachimanYeah
23:23.53HachimanAlso I love how she goes from being this toilet cleaner to the monarch of an interplanetary empire of transhumans and her performance implies that she is not astounded by this development at all
23:23.55MonetPlus points for directors not assuming "genetic hybrid" = looks like a 50/50 mix.
23:24.08MonetBut still
23:24.49MonetIt would have been more convincing to say he was simply given a few canid traits.
23:25.33HachimanOh and she can guide and control terrestrial bees because apparently bees are genetically wired to perceive and follow royalty OUTSIDE OF THEIR RESPECTIVE BEE SPECIES
23:25.54DrodoEmpirek
23:26.41MonetALso someone give that transhuman emperor dude a throat sweet.
23:30.55HachimanI also love the irony behind the fact that the Wachowski Brothers had millions of dollars placed into the visual effects of the movie and yet most of the film consists of exposition and boring, unnecessary and uncharacteristic dialogue
23:31.32HachimanWell, I cannot call them Wachowski *Brothers* anymore
23:32.13Monet"Wachowskis" works
23:32.24HachimanBut beside the point, it is almost as if the Wachowskies outright worked in reverse and opposed the guideline of "show, don't tell"
23:34.39Monet"legion" "entitled" "hunter"
23:34.55Wormy_I lolled at the typical disney fairy story cliche where the woman thinks she is destined only to find love
23:35.13MonetApparently the inhabitants of "The Verse" don't have massive imaginations for naming stuff
23:35.51HachimanHonestly that is fortunate considering imagination got them names such as Jupiter fucking Jones
23:36.11Wormy_dissapponting, I had higher hopes for that film when I first saw the trailer
23:36.14MonetTHat poor girl must have been bullied badly
23:36.24HachimanWhere the fuck would Jupiter EVER be considered a normal name
23:36.53MonetRome 1800 years ago, possibly.
23:37.14MonetAnd even then it'd probably be a bloke's name
23:38.04MonetHalf this exposition could have been cool VFX
23:40.01MonetI admit "Uriel Ultanos" might be a silly name to some and a bit wierd.
23:40.30HachimanBut that is fine because he is an alien
23:40.38HachimanJupiter is an otherwise NORMAL HUMAN
23:41.08HachimanWho, up until the events of the film, was supposed to be living in conventional society
23:41.22MonetJones is a common-ish surname.
23:41.38MonetBut Jupiter I agree soudns silly
23:42.30MonetI'm at the "Into Darkness planet" bit, and though all the exposition I forgot is she second generation human or not?
23:42.38MonetEarthian, whatever
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23:44.23Hachiman_Either way it does not matter because really because she does literally nothing throughout the whole film except ask questions
23:44.42Hachiman_Caine is a more interesting character than she is
23:45.31MonetThe worst kidn of protagonist really
23:45.47MonetTHis is starting to seem like Twilight in Space
23:46.31MonetWe have a leading lady with the personality and energy of a plank of wood.
23:46.48Hachiman_And her love interest is a dog
23:47.44Monet...that's a very very good point lol
23:48.21Hachiman"Channing Tatum as Caine Wise, a genetically engineered soldier: half human and half canine, though this is not immediately visible. He has a tremendously powerful sense of smell that allows him to track a gene through the universe."
23:48.29Hachiman>track a gene through the universe
23:49.02Wormy_lol
23:49.13MonetSo...
23:49.21Hachiman"Sean Bean as Stinger Apini, a "Han Solo-type character". Stinger is half human and half honeybee, which gives him wings, speed, special vision, and a sense of loyalty. He is a former comrade of Caine's, but lives on Earth with his daughter."
23:49.27Hachiman>HALF HUMAN AND HALF HONEYBEE
23:49.30Wormy_sounds like the story was a haphazard half arsed jumbling together
23:49.33HachimanHIS NAME IS FUCKING STINGER#
23:49.39MonetCaine's nose is this? http://www.opencaching.de/images/uploads/F4F6A4B6-0507-11E2-AAE3-00163E0AF0A3.jpg
23:50.11MonetWait if hes' half bee
23:50.23MonetWhy didn't Jupiter mind control his ass?
23:51.25HachimanProbably because she did not need to or rather did not know how to
23:51.36HachimanAnd then proceeded never to use her honeybee powers again
23:52.01Wormy_Jebus the film has been given  a C rating by critics
23:53.31MonetI also see space dragons.
23:55.33MonetI feel secretly happy that despite the Wachowskis beating me in putting space dragons on the silver screen, they did it using cinema's "reptiles are thuggish brutes" trope
23:56.07HachimanI swear space dragons have been on the silver screen before
23:56.43Wormy_Space (?) / Regular dragons will be in an upcoming SF film btw]
23:57.25HachimanOh?
23:57.57Wormy_The Leviathan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgFH-AXCpU
23:58.29Wormy_though they might be more comparable to space serpents
23:58.32Wormy_hi
23:58.34Wormy_oh
23:59.46Wormy_Looks like the art style is based more on 7-0's Second Golden Age rather than ipod sci-fi

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