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01:18.42Wormy_awayI hate adding images to Indesign :(
01:18.56Wormy_awayI've got 90 or so still to go
01:19.20Wormy_awayIt has a really stupid way opf inserting them
01:40.06The_Randomnessrip
01:49.03Wormy_awayPhew I found a quicker method
01:49.09Wormy_awayJust drag em in
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02:24.00dinoman9877Blargle.
02:24.15DrodoEmpireHi
02:24.25dinoman9877Hair lair there.
02:25.42dinoman9877Someone buy me a better computer so I can play Ark: Survival Evolved.
02:47.22DrodoEmpiretest
04:08.34Wormy_awayI@M FINISHED
04:08.37Wormy_awayI'm FREE
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08:04.51HalopediamanAnyone aboot who has knowledge of working with images on a wiki?
08:20.16GhelaeHalopediaman: What kind of knowledge do you need?
08:25.11HalopediamanThere was a fellow having issue with a template. The exact piece was: "I try to describe the image as a game screenshot but I don't know how to do that in the template."
08:25.35HalopediamanI don't even know if you can help with that Ghelae, given it's a totally different wiki, but I figured I'd try to help the guy.
08:28.30GhelaeI'd have to see what the template is to know how to deal with that.
08:29.18GhelaeIt sounds like there's a variable in the template that can be set to describe the image, with "game screenshot" not being a valid option.
08:30.39HalopediamanI see, so I should tell them to get in contact with a wiki admin then?
08:31.44GhelaeThey could do. If there's no chance of me seeing the template and knowing exactly what they're trying to do then I can't help any more.
08:44.33HalopediamanIs there a way I could give it to you?
08:45.17HalopediamanAlso, thanks for helping out, I was compiling statistics to prove that someone on the internet was wrong
08:45.26HalopediamanAnd thus a bit distracted
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09:02.29GhelaeHalopediaman: Sending me a link is all I can think of.
09:03.18GhelaeI was just having breakfast then, and thus even more distracted :P
09:04.52HalopediamanA link to the wiki or a link specifically to an area on the wiki? Bare with me, I may be 'Halopediaman' but I never worked with images, and I haven't been wiki active in years.
09:06.55GhelaeA link to the template, if possible, but failing that I may be able to find it from the wiki itself.
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09:23.32dromGhel: http://i.imgur.com/gL2jeAt.jpg
09:23.38dromDrinking and cooking
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09:24.11AdmiralPandahi all
09:24.40dromcrickey
09:27.04Liquid_InkPanda: [17:52] <Liquid_Ink> Australian patriots who proudly boycott halal products are dismayed to learn that water is halal. They are seeking alternatives, and wish to know if it's still halal if it's frozen.
09:29.13dromhttp://i.imgur.com/gWWXpaP.jpg
09:53.54HalopediamanSorry Ghelae, I was dealing with things in the other room involving cats. I don't have a link to the template, but I can link the wiki - http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank_wiki
09:54.35HalopediamanThe guy left before you even replied, so even if you can't get the answer I may never even run into this person again.
09:55.34HalopediamanThat said, I will be away for a bit now.
09:55.42HalopediamanPlanned this time.
10:00.04GhelaeHalopediaman: It looks like you just need toadd {{game screenshot}} to the file page. That describes an image as being a game screenshot, and also doesn't had any variables that need to be input.
10:00.09Ghelaeto add*
10:00.18Ghelaedoesn't have*
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10:09.54JepardiHi
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10:21.52HalopediamanThanks Ghelae.
11:06.02dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/O5CDI6X.jpg
11:11.17dromGhelae: http://mathematica.stackexchange.com/questions/66538/how-do-i-draw-a-pair-of-buttocks
11:13.38GhelaeThere's an awful lot of work being put into answering that question.
11:14.03GhelaeEven more work than people put into making related puns.
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11:26.45HachimanHai
11:29.35ImperiosHi Hachi
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12:09.44ImperiosHachiman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciscaucasian_hamster Shitlord animal
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12:14.23HachimanCiscaucasian
12:14.26HachimanThe actual fuck
12:16.51Hachiman"How about I insert my cock in your ass, while I hold you all tender and tell you I love you?" "WHOAH, what're you, some kind of doublefag rump ranger? Take that shit back to /d/. This is /tg/, where we have homosex like MEN, dammit. It's like racketball: no eye contact or kissing, just a lot of grunting and pounding, followed by SportsCenter."
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12:17.33MonetHello
12:17.42HachimanhAI
12:17.44HachimanHai even
12:32.28TheImperiosHachiman: Ciscaucasia is an actual place in Russia
12:32.34TheImperiosIt's a synonym for "North Caucasus"
12:33.50TheImperiosJi Monet
12:34.08AdmiralPanda"Yes keep killing the Shimazu, I mean those guys are cool but they're Christian so they need to die" - basically every Shogun 2 player ever, in this case quoted from the you tuber I'm watching
12:34.12TheImperiosHachiman: This sounds more like /fit/ than /tg/
12:34.37Hachiman>Christian Samurai
12:34.46HachimanI have only ever heard of this
12:35.07AdmiralPandaKyushu was full of htem
12:35.42AdmiralPandaduring the Sengoku Jedai Christian influence pervaded the Shimazu and Shoni clans, part of the reason people didn't exactly like them
12:36.00TheImperiosWhich is why they later got kicked out
12:36.21HachimanHuh so Western influence affected Japan prior to the Restoration
12:36.26AdmiralPandaoh yeah
12:36.42AdmiralPandaI mean the gun alone redefined Japanese warfare
12:38.23TheImperiosThey even tried to conquer us with them
12:38.32TheImperiosBUT FAILED
12:38.39AdmiralPandacorrection, they threw away spare soldiers :P
12:38.48AdmiralPandathe invasion of Korea was never actually supposed to succeed
12:39.38TheImperiosDammit Panda, stop ruining epic moments in history like this hur
12:39.55AdmiralPandabut yeah, in Shogun 2 the Shoni, and the Shimazu if the latter are AI, will go Christian, and it's annoying as fuck
12:40.48AdmiralPandathey get their bloody imported matchlock ashigaru, and when you capture their provinces it takes forever to de-Christianise them so you don't have to put up with tons of extra unhappiness
12:41.09Hachiman>Christianity leads to unhappiness
12:41.26AdmiralPandanot being the clan religion leads to unhappiness*
12:41.48AdmiralPandaif a Christian clan captures a Shinto-Buddhist or Ikko province, they're unhappy until they become Christian
12:41.59MonetAwayAnd the alternative iirc is to adopt CHristianity which makes everyone else like you less.
12:42.35AdmiralPandamhm, and there's no point to being Christian because it makes every province you capture really unhappy, the units you get for it are useless and you can't establish diplomacy for shit :P
12:43.25AdmiralPandaif you have the Sengoku Jedai unit pack and the extra clan DLCs then the Shoni can be viable going Christian because Nanban Trade Ships, but that's it really
12:43.34MonetAwayDiplomat - We don't want ot associate ourselves with those who fall to the ways of scary gaijin
12:43.58MonetAwayWait is it gaijin or gaiju?
12:44.03TheImperiosGaijin
12:44.08TheImperiosKaiju is a monster
12:44.13MonetAwayohlol
12:44.15AdmiralPandaeven the Shimazu get their SJU just from technology, the Heavy Gunner
12:44.58HachimanGaijin = Foreigner
12:45.02HachimanKaiju = Monster
12:45.06HachimanThe same thing really
12:45.39AdmiralPandahey now, the Nanban give us money, it's just not nice when they give us their religion too
12:46.28AdmiralPandathe one thing I don't get is why you need Cotton to train elite Yari units
12:46.47Hachimanhur
12:47.27AdmiralPandaI mean, high quality iron for elite Katana units? Makes sense. Superior warhorses? Makes sense. Incense for the monks? Makes sense. Cotton? Who the fuck knows XD
12:47.37MonetAwayElite Yari - Not working for you without nice clothes.
12:48.39TheImperiosAdmiralPanda: Elite Yari - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JBaCpiAxo&list=PL93ADD3FDECE00D6C&index=61
12:48.50AdmiralPandaI do still find it endlessly funny that, as I mostly play Shimazu when not playing as the Oda, my armies conquer Japan primarily with a sidearm
12:50.01AdmiralPandathe Shimazu being the katana cultists
12:51.06AdmiralPandaa standard army for me consists of two generals, six katana samurai units, four no-dachi samurai units, six bow ashigaru units (later matchlock ashigaru) and four yari cavalry units, but most of the fighting is done by katana and no-dachi
12:53.38AdmiralPandafunnily enough I actually employ Zulu tactics, everything except the yari cavalry are committed at the start of the fight, katanas in the middle, no-dachi charging the flanks; then if the battle shifts I can delegate the yari cavalry units to throw the balance in my favour
12:55.27HachimanHuh nice
12:56.01AdmiralPandawhen playing the Oda I basically do the same thing just with way more ashigaru
12:57.08TheImperiosAdmiralPanda: The Buffalo horns/loins/chest thing?
12:57.29AdmiralPandatwo general units, two yari cavalry, six bow ashigaru, eight yari ashigaru and two naginata samurai
12:57.32AdmiralPandaTheImperios: The same
12:57.50TheImperiosThe same?
12:57.53AdmiralPandait's honestly one of the best ways to arrange a battle
12:58.10AdmiralPandathe same, as in yes the same horns/lions/chest strategy
12:58.38TheImperiosAh
12:59.16AdmiralPandathe katana or yari as the chest, the no-dachi or naginata as the horns and the cavalry as the loins
13:00.06HachimanSo according to this video about the history of the Sengoku Jidai and its major commanders, characters such as Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and Tokugawa Ieyasu were not actually called by these names consistently throughout the war
13:00.07AdmiralPandait's kinda sad that all the other clans basically do the same strategy just worse
13:00.21AdmiralPandaHachiman: Yup, they upgraded their names as they upgraded in rank
13:00.44HachimanThat sounds both really cool and highly confusing hur
13:00.44AdmiralPandaas I recall the Toyotomi and Tokugawa clans didn't actually exist before the SJ
13:01.34AdmiralPandaHideyoshi has one of the coolest stories of the SJ in my opinion tbh
13:02.22HachimanTokugawa did exist prior to the SJ in the form of the Matsudaira
13:02.36AdmiralPandaor was it Ieyasu? One of them started as Oda Nobuhide's sandal-bearer, apparently he was really good at sandal-bearing so he got made Minister for Development (basically the guy who goes around building castles) and he was really good at that so he got given his own clan basically
13:03.03AdmiralPandaI think it was Hideyoshi
13:03.18MonetAwayHachiman Imperios: What would you say were the leading Divinariium and Brood groups in reverse engineering Grox tech during the Andromeda War?
13:03.26HachimanYeah it was Hideyoshi
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13:03.42Wormy_hello
13:03.52AdmiralPandathat guy was cool, Tokugawa had some cool stories too
13:03.53TheImperiosAs in the fields which they developed or the groups that led the development?
13:03.53MonetAwayHello
13:04.06TheImperiosHi
13:04.11HachimanHai Wormy
13:04.13MonetAwayImperios: The groups that led the development
13:04.21AdmiralPandaTokugawa was really good at surviving things he shouldn't have been able to survive
13:04.45AdmiralPandathat and he was bros with Hattori Hanzo, which says something in and of itself
13:04.56HachimanAye
13:05.12TheImperiosHm
13:05.28AdmiralPandain fact it was directly due to Hanzo that he survived one of those ridiculous situations
13:06.16AdmiralPandaas I recall, while he was fleeing pursuit his ninja dressed up as boatsmen, hid Ieyasu in a sack of grain and sailed down the river; the guards at the checkpoint stabbed the bag and pierced his leg- he didn't make a sound, and calmly wiped the blade with his pant leg as it came out
13:06.44HachimanJesus
13:08.40HachimanMonetAway: Not sure really
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13:09.56HachimanHai
13:10.04OluapPlayerbleh
13:10.37TheImperiosHachiman: Out of the AGC as a whole, probably the Divinarium, the DI and the NTA; in the Divinarium in particular, the appropriate scholarly castes
13:11.34HachimanI can imagine the Brood did not have much involvement in the conversion process of Grox technology beyond military application
13:11.57TheImperiosAdmiralPanda I mean
13:12.06HachimanNo you mean Monet hur
13:12.10MonetAwayIt;s one of the benefits of specialisation.
13:13.02MonetAwayDivinarium are the science guys and while the DI could still ahve contributed to deciperhing the tech, Divianrium's scohars probably had an easier time of it.
13:13.15MonetAwayscholars*
13:15.10AdmiralPandaoh god the daimyo in Shogun 2 talks so much smack it's ridiculous
13:15.57AdmiralPanda"I have never heard an honest man say a good thing of the Hattori, unless he has a Hattori knife at his back!"           "I have often wondered who leads a Takeda army, but then I realised: when everyone is an idiot it doesn't matter who leads!"
13:16.26AdmiralPanda"These Hojo are not warriors; they would rather be drinking and whoring in their castles than fighting!"
13:16.38MonetAwayThe pre-battle speeches?
13:16.41AdmiralPandayeah
13:16.44MonetAwayI loved those i nMediaval II
13:17.03AdmiralPandaI do love them even if occasionally they're a bit derpy
13:17.36AdmiralPanda"Our only vulnerability in this battle is that we lack artillery" - Well no shit mate, we're running people down over an open field with no defensive structures, why would we bring a siege train?
13:17.53TheImperiosGod I am confused
13:19.40MonetAway"The MIlanese have trouble lifting up a bag of coin, let alone a sword"
13:20.35TheImperiosDidn't they have cool mercenaries?
13:21.56MonetAway>Mercenaries
13:22.12MonetAwayAKA not neccesserily the actual actual Milanese citizens.
13:25.12MonetAwayThe italian city states were often too small to support offensive armies. So they'd hire mercenaries who traveleed from places like France, Spain, Poland, Austria or wherever to Italy for a chance to earn salaries amde on bankers' fortunes
13:25.46AdmiralPandaor if you were Venice you just bought a crusade
13:26.40MonetAwayIn Medieval II this is represented by Venice and Milan not having castles (which produce proper soldiers as opposed to militia) in their homelands.
13:28.31MonetAwayI always played Venice, so if I wanted dedicated troops I had two places to train them: Either Montenegro or Crete.
13:29.57MonetAwaySo I often spent my games fighting primarily with well-armoured militia.
13:31.02HachimanSo wait
13:31.22HachimanThe Ikko-Ikki were Shinto-Buddhists yet they were militant at the same time
13:31.34HachimanI though Buddhists prohibited violence from their lifestyles hur
13:31.35AdmiralPandathey were radical Shinto-Buddhists yes
13:31.47AdmiralPandathey had their own sectarian (I think that's the right word) beliefs
13:32.14AdmiralPandathat said, pretty much everyone in Japan was Shinto-Buddhist
13:32.34AdmiralPandasomewhere along the line they forgot about the whole no violence thing
13:32.51Monet:humans:
13:32.52Hachimanhur
13:33.37MonetVenice was...ambitious with its rivals
13:33.47AdmiralPandawell it was probably when the Shinto got added to the Buddhist
13:35.02MonetYou had Milan, part of the Holy Roman Empire, Byzantium - who until their successors were the largest terriotorial power in Europe - and I think they had some rivalry with the Ottomans
13:36.17MonetVenice and Byzantium spent most of their time arguing over who was the master of the Mediterranian.
13:49.59TheImperiosMonet: And then kebab
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13:53.07dino820hellwoz all
13:53.09dino820how is alld oing?
13:53.20MonetPretty good
13:53.38dino820great to hear :D
13:54.08OluapPlayerHello
13:54.20dino820Hey!
14:21.37dino820it is qutie on the irc :
14:21.39dino820D
14:22.45AdmiralPandadino820: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dreams_of_the_Past I did a thing
14:25.03dino820oh nice story!
14:25.08dino820Nice to see them in action again :D
14:25.27HachimanTheImperios: When the Samurai Clans of Japan decided to attempt to instigate an invasion into China in order to get rid of additional soldiers that were left without stuff to do after Japan was unified under a Shogun, which led to the invasion of Korea, the Japanese would bring back the heads of their enemies overseas as proof of their deaths
14:26.33HachimanHowever because so many people died during the Korean invasion, the Japanese found that shipping heads back to Japan was a pain in the back so instead they cut off the noses of their enemies which were significantly easier to ship, and there is actually a monument in Mimizuka to the mound of noses they gathered from the Korean invasion
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14:29.08TheImperiosHur
14:44.44HachimanAlso, the name "Shaka"  in the Zulu language meant "Intestinal Beetle", which was a supposed justification for his mother's pregnancy, and "Zulu" in itself is supposed to translate to something like "Heaven"
14:44.48HachimanIntestinal Beetle Heaven
14:44.53AdmiralPandamhm
14:45.32TheImperiosYeah, he was concieved during what was supposed to be, essentially, cuddling
14:45.35AdmiralPandaShaka Zulu was a bastard child, so his father passed off the mother's pregnancy as a bad case of intestinal beetles
14:45.37TheImperiosAs in, premarital erotic games
14:48.23TheImperiosHachiman Monet OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Syndicate/Bounty_Hunters#Pirate_Captain_Halaana_.22Jessica.22_Tarot So dino820 pointed out that I once had this character
14:49.05OluapPlayerCaveman Imp at his finest
14:49.39TheImperios"She is usually robbing Masaari convoys and also watching over illegal trade of draxite, a very common drug similar to Earth's cannabis drugs."
14:49.47dino820@thel: From the good ol times :D
14:49.53TheImperios"a very common drug similar to Earth's cannabis drugs."
14:50.06AdmiralPandaI kinda miss when you were endearingly illiterate, as opposed to being the most british-sounding man in a Skype call otherwise full of british men
14:50.29TekDroidO.o
14:50.30AdmiralPandacaveman imp was good imp
14:50.35TheImperioshur
14:50.44AdmiralPandaTekDroid: Seriously, he sounds more british than Hachi, Oluap or Monet
14:51.05AdmiralPandawait Oluap's not british, ignore that bit
14:51.15TekDroidLol
14:51.35AdmiralPandasounds more british than Hachi or Monet though
14:53.07dino820:d
14:55.05MonetThat's quite an achievement
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14:55.35TheImperiosI've been working on my pronounciation
14:55.42TheImperiosI think it is somewhat exaggerated
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15:00.03TheImperiosI remember seeing people who thought my accent was Scottish or Irish
15:00.45TechnobliteratoryrZ0hHe
15:00.50Technobliteratorwat
15:00.55Technobliteratorthat is dumb
15:01.32TechnobliteratorGH8FDisfasg(f
15:01.45TekDroidYou're trying to fake British accent? :P
15:01.47AdmiralPandawat
15:01.54Technobliteratorp;OfkaPla
15:02.00AdmiralPandatech
15:02.04AdmiralPandawat u doin
15:02.09TechnobliteratorLdaOk
15:02.19Technobliteratoruh
15:02.20AdmiralPandasomeone broke tech
15:02.26Technobliteratorwhoops
15:02.36Technobliteratorlet my brother mess with the keyboard
15:04.45Technobliteratoruggggggggggh
15:04.47Technobliteratorbloody dps
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15:09.08AdmiralPandaTechnobliterator: what are they doing?
15:09.45TechnobliteratorAttacking everyone but the guy I was on
15:09.47Technobliterator: |
15:10.12AdmiralPandalol
15:10.16AdmiralPandalolBLM?
15:10.33TechnobliteratorARC
15:10.43TechnobliteratorLow level got me in Deepcroft
15:10.45TechnobliteratorSo barely any exp either
15:10.47Technobliterator:   |
15:11.18AdmiralPandayour daily roulette?
15:11.38TechnobliteratorYup
15:11.44AdmiralPandayou should have got a pretty solid amount of XP since the completion bonus is scaled to the level difference
15:13.05TechnobliteratorI will
15:13.07TechnobliteratorHopefully
15:13.20Wormy_Well its over.  I'm FREE to the end of September!
15:13.52Wormy_I have much fiction planned.
15:13.55AdmiralPandaoh you mean you haven't finished the run yet?
15:14.18Technobliteratornope
15:14.21Technobliteratoroh, nice wormy :o
15:14.39AdmiralPandayeah most of the roulette's XP is in the completion bonus
15:15.32MonetHachiman Imperios: Thinking about it, I guess the AGC's strength could come from specialisation.
15:15.53TheImperiosElaborate
15:16.18MonetWell the Highlord Nations each have their own field of expertise that sets them apart
15:16.26MonetThe Divinarium is highly advanced
15:16.35MonetThe Brood is a military powerhouse
15:16.47MonetAnd the DI is a giant of manufacturing and commerce.
15:17.24MonetBy pooling their assets together, they can further devote themselves to one area
15:18.34HachimanI suppose that is true although, as shown countless times, the Zazane's specialty for violence does bite them in the ass a lot
15:19.07HachimanAs while the Brood is an attempt at a unified state, there are still a fair number of divided Zazane nations throughout the Gigaquadrant
15:19.28MonetI suppose that's where expertise pooling could come in
15:20.02MonetZazane speciality for violence combined with Draconid discipline.
15:25.34Technobliteratorwow
15:25.36Technobliteratormy team
15:25.37Technobliteratorare utter trash
15:25.50Technobliteratorlike
15:25.54TechnobliteratorI get that they're new
15:25.57Technobliteratorbut they use no logic at all
15:28.22TekDroidhttps://imgur.com/gallery/itA9S0j "If by overcooked you mean it could be Saurons backup incinerator, then yes."
15:29.41TheImperiosMonet: It kinda makes sense
15:32.37Technobliteratorwhat
15:32.39Technobliteratorno commends
15:32.41Technobliteratorfor carrying that team
15:32.43Technobliteratorso hard
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15:58.59dino820istheri a page on the wiki which codes are neccesarily fromdifferant coloration in galleries? For the Rambo I normally use blue but where can I fidn others?
16:01.38dino820nvr mind, found it :D
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16:04.16dromImgur's getting busy handling over-capacity.
16:06.36dromMonet tried my hand on weapon concept art: http://i.imgur.com/O6djlHn.jpg
16:06.45dromScale completely unrelated.
16:09.27TekDroidhttps://m.imgur.com/gallery/KVuxF
16:10.39TekDroidhttps://imgur.com/gallery/Y9zwqo4 Black holes
16:11.07HachimanWell shit
16:11.44OluapPlayerno pls
16:12.18MonetIf it helps, that thing is 220ly aay
16:12.22Monetaway*
16:12.27Monet220 million, sorry
16:16.04dromThere are still black holes heavier than NGC 1277
16:16.22MonetQuasars?
16:16.47dromS5 0014+813 with 40 billion solar mass (our Sun is equivalent to 1 solar mass).
16:17.12dromNGC 1277 is only 5 billion solar mass heavy.
16:17.44dromYep, quasar.
16:18.16dromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S5_0014%2B81
16:21.35drom" Using the formula for the Schwarzschild radius, this black hole has the diameter of 236.7 billion kilometres, or 47 times the distance from the Sun to Pluto, and has the mass equivalent to four Large Magellanic Clouds."
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16:33.13dromMonet: When I googled few mammal craniums/skulls for refernece for a concept art of a Nomatarian skeleton beignning with the skull. Some searches came up with customes of a creature, with the "skin" and "fur" removed so it depicates a naked skull for face and head.
16:33.19dromI thought it was both terrifying and cool.
16:35.27MonetThat's some neat concept art
16:35.44MonetLooks efficient.
16:47.08TheImperiosGod these YouTube videos just reached a new level of stupid
16:47.35TheImperiosI just saw an antisemite claim that *the Nazi Party was led by Jews*
16:47.47HachimanEch
16:47.47TheImperiosAnd that *Hitler was a Jew*
16:47.51HachimanWell
16:48.02HachimanThe claim Hitler was from a Jewish background is not a new claim
16:48.30TheImperiosHe could have some ancestry TBH
16:48.31TheImperiosAnyway
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16:49.11TheImperiosTo explain: the poster in question tried to showcase that Russians have always been threatened by Jews - by claiming that the Nazi Party and therefore the German attack on Russia was masterminded by Jews
16:50.55TheImperiosDo you have nutty conservatives like that in UK too
16:53.05HachimanNot really, our society would not allow for it hur
16:53.26HachimanThe UK is more aimed towards Islamaphobia than it is anti-Semitism
16:53.43Monet"Ban the Burkah" and al lthat.
16:53.50HachimanAye
16:53.58HachimanBritain First, the BNP, UKIP, etc
16:54.52GhelaeI was half-expecting the Nazis = Jews ideas to involve some logic along the lines of "only the Jews are degenerate enough to be antisemitic", which would have been an amazing feat of reasoning.
16:55.11Hachimanolol
17:02.52Wormy_So apparently, many North Koreans picture the outside world like Mad Max, and one who escaped from concentration camps didn't even know there was an outside world.
17:03.08Tek0516O.o
17:03.24Tek0516Doesn't surprise me though
17:04.07Wormy_Hachi:  You seen the new one yet?
17:05.10TheImperiosGhelae: The idea is "Jews have always hated Russians" + "Nazis hated Russian" = "NAZI IS JEW"
17:05.14TheImperios*Russians
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17:06.35HachimanWormy_: New what?
17:06.52Wormy_new Mad Max film
17:07.15HachimanOh
17:07.18HachimanNo not yet
17:07.26TheImperiosSo let me put that straight
17:07.38TheImperiosWe have 14 million more Muslims than you do
17:07.42TheImperiosAnd yet you still hate them more
17:08.22HachimanYep
17:09.35Wormy_Depends where you are, I think
17:10.38MonetAre there Muslims in Russia trying to illegaly enforce the Sharia Law?
17:11.22Wormy_I can'rt help but feel our media has a degree of fearmongering
17:11.48MonetIt's not a perception, its a fact.
17:11.52TheImperiosPure Sharia? Save for some terrorists, doubt that
17:12.14MonetIn London we have vigilantes trying to enforce it.
17:12.40MonetReports of Muslim men gathering in patrols and harassing any woman not covering their heads and anyone they see drinking.
17:12.51TheImperiosPunch them in da face
17:12.52HachimanAye
17:13.09MonetTheIMperios: The Met is cracking down, certainly.
17:13.15TheImperiosDifferent regions of Russia have slightly different laws though
17:13.36HachimanAs much as I do not wish to say it, there are a lot of negative impacts due to having a large and prominent Islamic populace
17:13.46MonetScotland Yard are treating these vigilantes as yet another street gang.
17:14.09TheImperiosThere is always a negative impact when another population enters your country through whatever means
17:14.19TheImperiosEn masse, at least
17:14.31Wormy_Monet:  Good
17:14.54HachimanWhich includes our government and local councils attempting to slam some practices and traditions that were in place before Islamic prominence due to wanting to keep everything "politically correct"
17:14.55Wormy_No doubt it will breed racism however
17:15.31TheImperiosOur Muslim scholars actually stood up *against* instituting Shari'a laws
17:15.36Wormy_I certainly think multi-culturalism was practised very poorly by the councils etc.
17:16.01HachimanWhich includes prohibiting the usage of "Merry Christmas" on cards and such in exchange for "Season's Greetings" or "Happy Holidays" and forcing people to take down Christmas decorations they had set up outside of their homes in case they "offended" anybody
17:16.13HachimanAlongside other such ridiculous attempts at being PC
17:16.59TheImperiosOur High Mufti, even
17:17.11Wormy_Well I know an example.  One city council stopped putting up Christmas lights because it might offend a Jewish community.  But this *did* offend the Jewish community, because they felt they weren't being integrated.
17:17.14TheImperiosWhich is an important title
17:17.20TekDroidHachiman: Well over here our schools have implemented an effective ban on any reference to Christmas
17:17.33TheImperiosAs in, it's the Muslim Pope in Russia
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17:19.04dromFucking Windows, fucking hypocrite government, fucking infrastructure. Modern country? My ass.
17:19.30TheImperiosSo basically we hate Muslims less because we have already integrated them into our culture
17:19.36TheImperiosWhile you haven't
17:19.50dromEh
17:19.57HachimanNot really our fault
17:20.02HachimanOr mine at least hur
17:20.08dromI wasn't on integration.
17:20.30TheImperiosI don't say it's your fault
17:20.32TheImperiosIt makes sense
17:20.46dromMonet: Anyway, I was about to send you this before I went into a mobilenet void. http://i.imgur.com/qdw3UFI.jpg
17:20.52TheImperiosWe have lived alongside Muslims for centuries, Russians themselves almost became Muslims once in fact
17:20.59TheImperiosAccording to legend, at least
17:21.00HachimanThe British media fearmongers news regarding Afghanistan and we have had public executions and murders take place IN OUR COUNTRY that were committed by Muslim extremists which reflects badly on everyone else
17:21.30TheImperiosWhile for you it's a new thing, which is why you have all these conflicts
17:22.11TekDroidOf course the school that banned those holidays also allows the school to go on lockdown so a student doesn't have to take anger medication.
17:22.13Monetdrom: Skullface heh
17:22.28HachimanYes but at least we settled our disputes with our neighbours now
17:22.43dromAye. It is so cool that I'm considering it as a natural trait among Nomatarians
17:23.08TheImperiosThat's because invading France would be too boring hur
17:23.37MonetALso wouldn't taking Ukraine be like reclaiming lost land?
17:23.48TheImperiosWe do not want to take all of Ukraine
17:23.48HachimanNot for the Ukrainians
17:24.02MonetHachiman: I mean for Russians
17:24.05TheImperiosJust Crimea and Donbass if we're lucky, maybe Odessa
17:24.20TheImperiosBasically the mostly Russian-speaking/Russian culture territory
17:24.30MonetWWI was so horrible Europeans decided to stop the petty wars because of how horrible they'd become
17:24.53TheImperiosThough we won't have it because we do not want further shit getting stirred
17:25.06TheImperiosRight now we just want to keep Crimea and do not let Ukraine join NATO
17:25.19MonetBack efoe 1900 land was being changed hands all the time
17:26.10TheImperiosIf we'd like to separate countried by cultural/linguistic barriers, it'd be problemtic for Ukraine
17:26.29TheImperiosBecause like 25% of the country is pretty much Russian, and 50% speaks Russian as the main language
17:26.39TheImperiosRemember the angry Ukrainian kid?
17:28.19TheImperiosHe was actually speaking Russian
17:28.24TheImperiosPerfect unaccented Russian
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17:28.41TheImperiosOkay, slightly Ukrainised Russian
17:28.46TheImperiosHi Cyr
17:28.58OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
17:29.02infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
17:29.11Cyrannian~tickle OluapPlayer
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17:31.12TheImperiosMonet Hachiman: Basically the dissolution of the USSR left a lot of gray spots because Soviet rulers separated territories mostly based on economic necessities
17:31.22TheImperiosLike for example Kazakhstan could have some of Ural
17:31.36TheImperiosWhile we could have some of North Kazakhstan
17:32.22TheImperiosWhich would be nice because that's where the deported nations were sent to, so that's essentially muh homeland
17:33.32TheImperiosBut Kazakhs are our bros so it does not matter
17:34.32TheImperiosFunny thing is, the previous president of Ukraine - the one that was pro-Russian - was elected mostly thanks to the inhabitants of Donbass
17:34.54TheImperiosWhich caused many a shitstorm among most West and Central Ukrainians
17:35.09TheImperiosThere was even that saying among them
17:35.29TheImperios"Thanks to the people of Donbass for a faggot president" - it sounds better in Russian but you get the message
17:36.03TheImperiosSo when they kicked him out we were like "k^^" and decided to take the whole of Donbass
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17:38.42TheImperiosSo when they kicked him out we were like "k^^" and decided to take the whole of Donbass
17:42.47dromHold on, did my IRC repeat what was recently said?
17:43.49dromDoesn't matter anymore, I'm about to arrive to my destination station soon.
17:45.47TekDroid~test
17:45.47infobot[test] not funny
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18:01.20TheImperiosBTW returning to Islam, a Muslim K-Pop fangirl friended me the other day
18:01.27TheImperios...This is getting creepy
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18:14.31HachimanSo I am watching a video series on the incident known as the South Sea Bubble
18:14.49HachimanThis is why I do not get involved with stuff like economics as much as I do with politics hur
18:16.13TheImperiosMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGi7u46SZoA
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18:30.02MonetHachiman: The consequences of the South Sea Bubble are similar to the Lost Decade
18:30.57HachimanHuh
18:31.07MonetThe simple lesson I guess is the faster stock prices go up, the harder they come down.
18:33.08MonetIts these kinds of events that actually fascinate me about economics.
18:33.34HachimanI find economics difficult to understand personally which is why I tend to stay away from that aspect of my fiction hur
18:34.01MonetVery understandable
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18:34.33MonetIf you want to explain all its intricacies, then yeah you're best off going to university.
18:34.37Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam
18:35.01Wormy_3 lives gone, would hzave survived 6 more sinkings
18:36.14HachimanJesus
18:37.33MonetBut so far every market crash, from the 1929 Great Depression to the 2008 recession have one thing in common: They were characterised by several years of people going on an all-out spending spree.
18:38.10MonetBefore the crash happened
18:38.50MonetAnd most of the m(at least) are characterised by speculators being os confident they almost forget that with every up comes a down.
18:42.27MonetAlthough the cirumstances of the South Sea Bubble's origins soudns a little like what the Weimar Republic did.
18:43.14MonetIt needed money fast, so it took a very dangerosu decision. For England it was "X trading company pays off our debt", for Weimar it was "print money"
18:44.53HachimanWhat was wrong with printing money?
18:45.29MonetYou get Zimbabwe.
18:45.49TheImperiosHachiman: Because without any goods to support it, money loses its value if there's a lot of it
18:47.50MonetYou print money to pay off your defecits -> rule of demand states that as you print more money, the value of it goes down -> you print more money to compensate for the devaluation -> Money loses value further -> repeat until 1bln of the currency is what it takes to buy a loaf of bread.
18:48.19MonetMoney has its own measure of supply and demand. ANd as demand for something increases, so does the value of it.
18:49.18MonetBy the 1920s Weimar republic was building paper mill after paper mill until there was at least one in every town
18:51.30MonetPrinting money is fine
18:51.47MonetIts when you print it for the sake of giving yourself more of it that things get complicated.
18:56.34MonetIn the case of the Republic, they were asked to pay the 1919 equivilent of £56 billion
18:56.41Monetfor war damages
18:57.13HachimanBloody hell
18:57.32MonetSo yeah they wanted to pay off the debt fast
18:58.21MonetUnfortunately the post-payoff consequence was that there were an enormous number of German Marks floating around.
18:59.00MonetAnd as a result, prices in the Weimar Republic skyrocketed.
19:00.08Hachimanbrb
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19:07.49dromTheImperios: Remove homo sapiens
19:09.08TheImperiosdrom: WORLD WAR TWO BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
19:09.32dromkek all over the place
19:10.19TheImperiosneanderthal alive numbr one #1 in humanikind ….fuck the sapiens ,..FUCKk ashol sapiens sapiens no good i spit? in the mouth
19:10.58Wormy_?
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19:12.04TheImperiosyou are worst sapiens. you are the sapiens idiot you are the sapiens smell. return to africa. to our africa cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha ,neanderthals we will never forgeve you. cromagnon rascal FUck but fuck asshole sapiens stink cromagnon..world war 2 best day of my life. take a bath of dead sapiens..ahahahahahNEANDERTHALS WE WILL GET YOU!!
19:12.12The_Randomnesswtf
19:12.18TheImperiosHi Random
19:12.22Wormy_Humans outbred the Neanderthals because they were hotter
19:12.25TheImperiosThe_Randomness: Remove Kebab reference
19:12.30The_RandomnessAh
19:12.32dromThat came out random for random
19:12.41Wormy_The Neanderthal men ditched their wives
19:13.48dromTheImperios: We were at once this black long long time ago.
19:14.06TheImperiosWormy_: I remember seeing an article describing the Neanderthals' extinction in modern terms, condemning homo sapiens for genocide
19:15.45HachiAwayIf we cannot handle civilisation being divided by race and culture, imagine how badly we would fare if the Neanderthals survived to establish their own nations and such alongside human civilisation into the modern day
19:17.19dromHomo sapiens are also the only race that by non-natural means or instincts premit genocide of their own race.
19:19.32HachiAwayIt is like you have never researched into squirrels before
19:20.14TekDroidHachiAway: Though in that situation its quite possible the divides would be more between species rather than human racial ethnic groups.
19:21.36HachimanThere have been a number of concerns raised by conservationist groups within the UK towards the issue of native red squirrels suffering from their population lowering due to affronts placed upon them by larger and far more prosperous, invasive gray squirrels
19:22.34HachimanHumanity is not the only species with an inclination towards the utter destruction of groups within their own species
19:23.05MonetEngaginf in efforts to wip eout the competition is an effective survival actic.
19:23.10Monetengaging in*
19:23.29dromI'm not talking about destruction/extinction of other species or animal races but their own kin.
19:24.30HachimanSo am I and yes I do recognise that red and gray squirrels are separate species however I believe they are close enough physiologically to be used as an appropriate example
19:24.55HachimanDolphins and apes perform similar activities
19:24.56MonetWHat about chimpanzees?
19:25.29MonetYeah, Chimps can be pretty violent
19:25.44dromHm, I've never heard of that. I usually read more about them more personalized and civil against each other.
19:25.47HachimanChimpanzees and other relative species of primates are known for the regular decimation and destruction of other groups of primates of the same species
19:26.37HachimanAnd dolphins are almost exactly the same
19:27.08MonetIts eugenics effectively
19:27.36MonetYou gaurentee the survival of your own family by eradicating families that you'd compete with for resources.
19:28.10TekDroidIndeed
19:28.38MonetSo in answer to the question, if Neanderthals hadn't died out, there'd still be ethnic discrimination.
19:28.49dromYep. Unfortunately this applies to us as well, when it comes to politics and demography.
19:29.44MonetWhatever scale of social structure you look at, there's competition.
19:30.14Monetbe it between species, regional collectives, families or even members of a family.
19:30.53dromIsn't this kind of behaviour common among territoral animals as well, violating/unrespecting a family/specimen's territory?
19:31.28HachimanYes
19:31.55TekDroidInter-species or intra-species, at its core all conflict is about ensuring the betterment and survival of your own.
19:33.13TheImperiosHachiman: "There have been a number of concerns raised by conservationist groups within the UK towards the issue of native red squirrels suffering from their population lowering due to affronts placed upon them by larger and far more prosperous, invasive gray squirrels"
19:34.17TheImperiosNope, the grey squirrels are merely protecting the rights of other grey squirrels in red squirrel dens after their alpha has been overthrown by an evil Nazi human-collaborator junta
19:34.44Hachimandum
19:35.22TheImperiosThat was a joke hur
19:35.43HachimanI know but still hur
19:35.52HachimanSquirrels are like one of my favourite animals
19:36.31TheImperiosAye
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19:37.14HachimanIf I could make a fiction revolving around sapient squirrels or squirrel analogues then I would, no joke
19:37.16HachimanHai
19:37.45dromI like rodent and canine animals more.
19:37.51Wormy_I don't care for grey squirrels.  I only like the reds
19:38.06Hachimandrom: Squirrels are rodents hur
19:38.09The_RandomnessI don't like squirrels in general
19:38.23Wormy_The Grey squirrel is now being usurped by a bigger black squirrel subspecies
19:38.57Wormy_I don't go too close because they are vicious
19:39.48HachimanAye
19:39.58HachimanGray and black squirrels are rather vicious and unfriendly
19:40.42Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11444893
19:40.48drom"Sciurus vulgaris"
19:41.04Wormy_Remember the purple squirrel on facebook 3 years ago?
19:41.24TheImperiosWormy: Squirrel - AROUND BLACKS NEVER RELAX
19:41.54dromTheImperios: Squirrel - You came to the wrong forest, nigga.
19:41.55Wormy_http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/purple-squirrel-found-in-penns/61308
19:42.09TheImperiosdrom: The squirrels are about to be culturally enriched
19:42.43The_Randomnessdats racist
19:42.59Wormy_Purple squirrel - fuk u i'm the pimp
19:43.01dromNo, I don't want your corntape
19:45.38TheImperiosHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7RtEpQ670
19:46.02dromLooks like we have got only red squirrels.
19:46.04dromGood
19:46.57Wormy_This science talk looks interesting, unfortunately its a bit far for me.  https://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2011-05-27/01_06_2015_pdf_11131.pdf
19:49.29TheImperiosWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERitvFYpAk Look what I found
19:49.46Wormy_Imperios:  Already listened to it
19:49.58Wormy_I had a fascination with ancient songs two years ago
19:50.06Wormy_I like it
19:51.06TheImperios"im 2 weeks old and i listen to this music while other the fetuses in my mothers womb listen to that trashy beethoven shit made after jesus was born. man, my generation sucks! like this comment if you listen to real music"
19:54.47Wormy_TheImperios:  This is even older https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZatnTPhYWc
19:58.41TheImperiosSounds nice
19:59.02TheImperioshttp://steamcommunity.com/app/8930/discussions/0/684839199657194305 Ignorance overwhelming
19:59.04Wormy_And almost haunting
19:59.12TheImperios"Catherine - Russia's only female leader, doesn't make much sense. Peter the Great or Ivan the Terrible would be better."
19:59.18TheImperios" Russia's only female leader,"
19:59.19TheImperios' Russia's only female leader,"
19:59.24OluapPlayer<PROTECTED>
19:59.28TheImperiosThe *second* ruler of Russia was a woman
19:59.33TheImperiosLiterally
20:00.14TheImperiosAlright, maybe third or fourth, but one of the first princes(ses) of Kiev was Olga
20:00.19Wormy_"Though I'm not counting Rome; they're Medeterranian, not European"
20:01.13dromGet loadsa of this guy
20:01.56MonetI thought I heard somewhere that it was Wu Zeitan was chosen because unlike Cathy she was the only feemale leader in China's multi-thousand-year history.
20:02.39MonetAnd Theodora...well it's certainly more significant than all the what, 19 Constantines?
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20:03.48MonetAnd Maria Theresa, the last of the Hapsburg Dyansty.
20:03.55Wormy_Rome had people from all over Europe in its empire, so even saying the Med wasn't part of Europe back then doesn't seem right to me.
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20:05.16MonetAnd didn't Theodora actually make some radical changes to Byzantine society?
20:07.18Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/MRX5a
20:09.21Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/cm51Zjx.jpg
20:09.58Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/31923217
20:10.02Wormy_no hoax
20:11.09dino820bye bye all
20:11.10dino820have to go
20:11.11dino820see ya
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20:11.21Wormy_http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/31/cyclist-removed-from-nude-race-after-getting-an-erection-5223118/
20:11.26Monethttp://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/29806827 not sure if amazing or terrifying
20:12.29Wormy_Newsground is awesome
20:12.51Wormy_*round
20:13.20MonetHowever it does mean we are one step closer to having external views for walls
20:13.33MonetI feel bad for anyone afraid of heights though
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20:15.19GhelaeHello.
20:15.28Wormy_I don't understand the nude cyclist thing.  They are being nude to feel natural and comfortable around bodies.  And bodies do things.
20:15.35Wormy_hi
20:15.45Wormy_For context http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/31/cyclist-removed-from-nude-race-after-getting-an-erection-5223118/
20:16.06HachimanTheImperios: My sides just got 9/11'd
20:16.28Wormy_If he was staring and acting inappropriate I'd understand
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20:19.44Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/P27geFe.jpg
20:23.48TheImperiosdrom: http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Krautchan_79afc9_5230573.jpg
20:24.12dromtop kek
20:26.21TheImperiosHachiman Monet: http://i.timeinc.net/time/verbatim/20021118/photo/verbatim_putin.jpg Speaking of the discussion about Islam we had earlier
20:27.51MonetPutin - The Islamic Radicals are the ones that do that...right?
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20:37.22TheImperiosdrom: http://russian.peopledaily.com.cn/mediafile/201212/28/F201212281128502984722605.jpg True Russians
20:38.09dromMore like Canadians amrite
20:38.40TheImperiosEh
20:38.41TheImperiosSorry
20:38.50TheImperiosMy mistake
20:38.52TheImperiosEh
20:39.21dromIt is chill, eh
20:39.51HachimanI dunno, eh
20:39.58HachimanThere is no maple syrup or hockey
20:40.00HachimanOr moose
20:41.06dromand they are all impolite eh
20:41.23TheImperiosWell, to be honest, we have hockey an moose too
20:41.42TheImperiosThough since the children are not apologising I will assume th4ese are Russians,eh
20:41.44dromso do we eh
20:41.57TheImperiosdrom: CHILDREN OF DA NORTH
20:42.07dromEH
20:42.28drom*prolonged eh*
20:42.45TheImperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpPFoS_PCPc eh eh EH eh eh EH eh eh EH
20:46.57HachimanTheImperios: Is it true that the last Tzar of Russia could not coordinate or plan his own coronation and allowed a huge number of people to die on the day of his crowning due to a lack of beer and pretzels?
20:47.41TechnobliteratorIt is true that the last Tzar of Russia was an imbecil
20:47.43Technobliteratore
20:47.54TechnobliteratorNicolas the Second was a right dumbass
20:48.00Technobliteratorso Ithat wouldn't surpirse me
20:48.36TheImperiosTechnobliterator: Not outright an imbecile as much as just incompetent and dim
20:48.59TheImperiosHe WOULD be a good... say... military officer, but he had neither the character nor the will to govern an empire
20:49.10TechnobliteratorHe was ridiculously out of touch, and made horrible, horrible military decisions
20:49.23GhelaeThe way Hachi's worded that question makes me think it means Russians have a vital need for beer and pretzels and will die if they go for one day without them.
20:49.24TechnobliteratorNot to mention no one liked him : |
20:49.49TheImperiosHachiman: And the Khodynka... yes, that happened because of poor organisation, half of the coming citizen were stomped by the crowds
20:49.59TheImperiosNot sure if it was beer and pretzels but yeah
20:50.13HachimanJesus
20:50.49TheImperiosWell maybe not half but... let me check
20:51.20TheImperiosOut of 50,000 people, 1389 died and just as much were wounded
20:51.23TheImperios*as many
20:51.55TheImperiosAnd we do not eat pretzels
20:52.01TheImperiosIn fact, I do not even know what that is
20:52.54TheImperiosBut apparently pryaniks were given there
20:55.41TheImperiosNot sure how to describe what a pryanik is so I will just show you
20:55.44TheImperioshttp://www.hlebprom.mv.ru/prod/tort/13_5.jpg
20:55.45TheImperiosThis
20:56.35GhelaeSo definitely not pretzels.
20:57.17TheImperiosYes, I think so
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20:57.29ExternalHey.
20:57.58TheImperiosLooking at the definition of a pretzel, we have things like this but they're relatively uncommon
20:58.01TheImperiosAnd we call them "krendel"
20:58.08TheImperiosHi External
20:58.26TechnobliteratorExternal, why would multiple upload work?
20:58.29Technobliterator*won't
20:58.39ExternalMust've been the internet.
20:58.54TechnobliteratorIt's just Special:MultipleUpload
20:58.54ExternalI had to retry 3 times to get it to upload properly, but it didn't.
20:59.16ExternalSo I just decided to upload the images 1 by 1. I succeeded.
20:59.41GhelaeHello.
20:59.59TechnobliteratorYou should ideally be adding categories to everything you upload
21:00.14TechnobliteratorOn most wikis, the uploader is required to do this, but we don't require it here because we're lazy
21:00.55TechnobliteratorThus, our Special:UncategorizedImages, and all our categories on the wiki in general, are an absolute mess and they're too far gone for anyone to fix them
21:00.58Technobliterator:    |
21:01.35GhelaeA large portion of Special:UncategorizedImages is probably also in Special:UnusedFiles too.
21:02.02TechnobliteratorWell, that one's easier to weed out, because you know that it's useless
21:02.37Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:UnusedFiles I feel like all of these images do not have a use
21:02.48TechnobliteratorLow quality or pointless
21:03.14Externalkeep the vista check. That could be useful.
21:03.27TechnobliteratorNope
21:03.32TechnobliteratorWe already have a check image
21:03.38ExternalOh.
21:03.42GhelaeThere are probably a lot of images on there whose users' contributions are full of pages that could be deleted as short abandoned pages too.
21:03.46ExternalThen you're right. Those are useless.
21:04.21TechnobliteratorMhm, I wonder though if it's not better to just run my bot to have it delete them all
21:04.35ExternalWhat is this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Nitonx.png
21:04.41GhelaeBack when I went through the unusedfiles however long ago it was, I found the sad situation where many users had made pages for their creations and uploaded images of them, but somehow failed to put the images on the pages.
21:04.43Technobliteratorshrugs
21:04.53Technobliteratordaw
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21:05.32TechnobliteratorWell, we can check for short, unnecessary pages another way
21:05.46Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ShortPages
21:06.11ExternalComrade_Vinny, will you finish the Caribbean Federation page?
21:06.13Technobliteratorofc, that also reveals several mainspace pages that were never expanded
21:06.20Technobliteratorand never will be
21:06.23GhelaeYou mentioned that before but it only had mainspace pages.
21:07.00Technobliteratoroh, I wonder if we could just make Creature et al namespaces content namespaces to have them show up
21:07.20GhelaeIf that's possible it would be useful.
21:07.42TechnobliteratorIt is, it just requires contacting Wikia
21:09.06GhelaeI'd go through the unusedfiles and all associated content pages over summer, but I'm going to be doing a summer research internship at uni so that'll take up ten weeks of my time (albeit still giving me another three free).
21:09.41Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Battle_of_Imperavelli#Encounter_with_the_Wardroids - Zillum and Tyrant's big day out, part 2
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21:10.44TechnobliteratorI also have a few ways I'd like to improve the mainspace
21:11.10TechnobliteratorNamely: instead of having millions of different pages for creature parts, have "List of Creature Editor parts", and then just redirect them all to that
21:11.18ExternalI just found the Civatron Fighter picutre. Why does it look like Maxis' Fury Fighter?
21:11.19OluapPlayerTyrant - METAL MAN COW COMING THIS WAY
21:11.20TechnobliteratorSame goes for ship tools et al
21:11.21External*picture
21:11.36TechnobliteratorOf course, I am more than likely too lazy to do that myself
21:11.42GhelaeExternal: If only Val were still here; we could ask him.
21:11.50ExternalIf only.
21:12.13TechnobliteratorVal does return on occasion
21:13.56GhelaeYes, but with a frequency slightly less than Random editing pages (and slightly more than Liquid editing pages).
21:15.37External"5,555 Edits" I'll remember that.
21:15.56ExternalLast he edited was last August. ;_;
21:18.26dromAnyone seen Kung Fury?
21:19.00ExternalNope.
21:21.52TechnobliteratorGhelae, do you think it might be better for me to just delete all unused files with the bot now?
21:22.07Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Battle_of_Imperavelli#Duel_with_the_Inquisitor - Zillum and Tyrant battle an Imperial Inquisitor
21:22.23TechnobliteratorI could post a warning thread, though
21:23.25ExternalCyrannian: That was short.
21:23.57GhelaeThe ones of the development of Spore could perhaps be kept... IIRC Wormy made a list of some pictures he thought it would be useful to keep, but he didn't actually put the images on the page so they're still in the UnusedFiles.
21:23.59OluapPlayerTyrant - fuk off
21:24.09HachimanOuch, that was a literal curbstomp
21:24.24TechnobliteratorI would make a user subpage for those to keep them on
21:24.25OluapPlayerHe was trying to fight the two biggest burly men on Cyrannus at once
21:24.31OluapPlayerNot really a good idea
21:24.32TechnobliteratorBut I think they're too low quality to be kept
21:24.38HachimanThat battle could have been avoided if the Inquisitor had not made his presence known to them and attacked from behind
21:24.38GhelaeI also think I asked Val about deleting his pictures one time he came on IRC and he didn't want me to, but they can always be undeleted if he wants any back.
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21:25.03Quark8Hello.
21:25.34HachimanI reckon he could have taken one of them out with a backstab or at least injure one of them enough so they cannot operate on the frontline for sometime
21:25.50Externalhai quark
21:26.15GhelaeHello.
21:26.46TheImperiosWow, that was great
21:27.22OluapPlayerI doubt a single backstab could take either of them down
21:27.29OluapPlayerTyrant maybe, but definitely not Zillum
21:28.08TheImperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD439RZ8LxQ That is mostly just angry ranting but I see an interesting problem here
21:28.48TheImperiosGirls have a slightly different idea of a perfect woman (appearance-wise) than guys
21:31.07HachimanI wonder if Truptor knew he was gonna end up being defeated by them
21:31.19HachimanThe battle was still pretty epic though
21:31.43ExternalShort, but yeah.
21:32.09Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:200980
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21:32.58ImpyDroidDid I miss anything?
21:33.11HachimanJo posting a warning thread or something
21:33.16TechnobliteratorNot much, ImpyDroid, other than my warning thread
21:33.20ImpyDroidRite
21:33.29TechnobliteratorBasically, any image not used on a page will be deleted
21:33.33TechnobliteratorIn 2 weeks time
21:36.30TechnobliteratorOkay, now I should do what I should've done earlier and make Loron media page
21:37.21OluapPlayerif by that you mean forget about it entirely for the next several days, you've been doing a good job so far
21:38.01Technobliteratorrofl
21:38.03Technobliteratorwell
21:38.06TechnobliteratorI will actually do it this time
21:38.08Technobliterator: |
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21:53.10DrodoEmpireHey everyone
21:53.13GhelaeHello.
21:54.20Externalhai
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21:56.31GhelaeHello.
21:56.34Externalhai
21:57.34Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Battle_of_Imperavelli#Epilogue - The end
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22:03.34Quark8Brb
22:06.24HachimanNice, I liked it
22:06.31HachimanThat story was pretty great
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22:10.04ExternalFinally got my navbox done.
22:12.17External...My wiki name is showing up where it isn't supposed to be on Google. Apparently I posted a reply to someone asking if New Zealand was claimed.
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22:55.21Technobliteratorwell, at least I have the structure for the page now
22:55.24Technobliteratorcba to work on it though
23:02.10Externalwell bai
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