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| 00:21.50 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 00:23.22 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 00:26.04 | Monet | Hello |
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| 00:36.54 | Monet | hello |
| 00:46.21 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 00:46.29 | Quark8 | passed |
| 00:47.13 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/ilHmHW7.jpg |
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| 01:07.13 | DrodoEmpire | Heyy lmao |
| 01:07.18 | Quark8 | Hey |
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| 01:14.26 | Wormy_away | Hm, I might go to this, day after my birthday tho http://geobusinessshow.com/registration/ |
| 01:14.50 | Wormy_away | geo-information systems |
| 01:15.23 | Wormy_away | On the top up year I'm going on I need a mentor for my dissertation |
| 01:21.34 | Wormy_away | This is where nerves get the better of me, I know it would be a good idea, but its far away and short notice |
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| 07:46.58 | Charles_Murray | I think I might have gone a bit overboard: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alexandre_Val%C3%A9ry#Politics |
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| 07:50.47 | Charles_Murray | Liquid_Ink : I might have gone a bit overboard - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alexandre_Val%C3%A9ry#Politics |
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| 09:55.07 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:200388 |
| 09:55.11 | Technobliterator | groans |
| 09:56.21 | Liquid_Ink | That should have a question mark. |
| 10:01.46 | AndroImpy | Say you are a hermaphrodite |
| 10:03.45 | Liquid_Ink | It's not to her. |
| 10:11.45 | Ghelae | Technobliterator: I came across this old fiction we wrote that apprently never amounted to anything: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Technobliterator/UntitledProject |
| 10:12.09 | Technobliterator | wow, that is old |
| 10:12.27 | Technobliterator | I don't even remember it, actually |
| 10:12.29 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 10:12.56 | Ghelae | I do have some memory of it. |
| 10:13.51 | Technobliterator | yeah, but then again your memory is miles better than mine |
| 10:13.53 | Ghelae | Although I don't remember the context, or very much else about it. |
| 10:13.53 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 10:14.12 | Ghelae | Oh, and Liquid_Ink, I found another reference to that-character-you-want-to-never-again-be-mentioned: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Shock_Energy |
| 10:14.40 | Liquid_Ink | Kill it. |
| 10:15.01 | Liquid_Ink | Unless somebody wants to recycle the concept. Though I think essense has since evolved beyond that. |
| 10:15.52 | Ghelae | Shock Energy is still mentioned in a few places on the wiki... but only the Essence page links to it, and the Essence page contains most of the information anyway, so it can still be deleted. |
| 10:18.05 | Liquid_Ink | Purge |
| 10:18.08 | Ghelae | And it is done. |
| 10:18.09 | Technobliterator | oh, I think the untitled project might've been when I was experimenting with ideas for how to introduce USO |
| 10:18.12 | Liquid_Ink | Purge like you're working for Stalin! |
| 10:22.31 | Ghelae | With a couple of exceptions that I have no intention of touching (e.g. War of Ages), it seems that all references to that character have now been deleted. |
| 10:23.01 | Liquid_Ink | I'll have to purge it myself. |
| 10:32.49 | Technobliterator | oh, AdmiralPanda, I'm at level 30 GLA now |
| 10:33.01 | Technobliterator | Only problem is, ofc, I have to level CNJ before I can unlock PLD |
| 10:33.03 | Technobliterator | : | |
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| 10:47.41 | Technobliterator | bbl |
| 11:05.49 | drom | Tek0516: What kind of graphics would you think our collab game would use? |
| 11:05.58 | drom | 3D, 2,5D or flat 2D? |
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| 11:11.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:12.51 | Monet | hello |
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| 11:19.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:20.31 | OluapWorker | Hi |
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| 11:35.54 | AdmiralPanda_ | Playing Civ 5, roll Britain randomly, decide that I should reverse history and invade the Germans, the Romans and the Danes |
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| 11:44.18 | HachiCollege | Here for a bit until my next class starts |
| 11:45.59 | AdmiralPanda_ | hai |
| 11:46.04 | OluapWorker | ~cuddle HachiCollege |
| 11:46.04 | infobot | ACTION grabs HachiCollege and cuddles until HachiCollege begs for mercy |
| 11:46.10 | AdmiralPanda_ | Jo is officially a less slack tank than you are :P |
| 11:47.15 | HachiCollege | Eh? |
| 11:47.35 | AdmiralPanda_ | she started leveling gladiator around the same time as you, she's now level 30 |
| 11:48.03 | HachiCollege | I haven't had the time to play FFXIV much recently |
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| 11:52.39 | Technobliterator | Well, to be fair |
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| 11:53.06 | Technobliterator | Hachi will do it slower because the first class always levels slower than later classes |
| 11:53.17 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:53.23 | Technobliterator | hihi |
| 11:53.50 | OluapWorker | Hello |
| 11:56.38 | Technobliterator | wait, Thunderlord vandalised? |
| 11:57.11 | HachiCollege | He was a twat |
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| 11:57.34 | Technobliterator | That part is true |
| 11:57.38 | OluapWorker | Moving other people's pages for no reason while spouting random shit in the edit summary |
| 11:57.40 | OluapWorker | Vandalism |
| 11:57.43 | Technobliterator | "Are youuu girl Omg???????" |
| 11:58.05 | Technobliterator | Ah, right |
| 11:58.06 | Technobliterator | Yep |
| 11:59.39 | HachiCollege | Right gotta go |
| 11:59.40 | HachiCollege | bbl |
| 11:59.55 | OluapWorker | bai |
| 12:00.07 | Monet | bye |
| 12:01.36 | Technobliterator | you still have college? |
| 12:04.20 | AdmiralPanda_ | evidently |
| 12:05.55 | AdmiralPanda_ | so I should be uploading the second section of my new fiction tomorrow most likely, and in that case I'll probably open it up to additional characters joining |
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| 12:06.07 | HachiCollege | Okay back for a bit |
| 12:06.22 | OluapWorker | yey |
| 12:06.39 | HachiCollege | I am waiting for an exam to start so I will be here for longer than last time hopefully |
| 12:06.43 | HachiCollege | Fucking maths exam ugh |
| 12:07.06 | AdmiralPanda_ | hur |
| 12:07.17 | AdmiralPanda_ | [22:06] <AdmiralPanda_> so I should be uploading the second section of my new fiction tomorrow most likely, and in that case I'll probably open it up to additional characters joining |
| 12:09.27 | Monet | AdmiralPanda_: Nice. So far I'm liking how we and Hel' have essentially been thrown into a situation |
| 12:09.52 | AdmiralPanda_ | twas the idea |
| 12:10.01 | AdmiralPanda_ | "in medias res" to be posh |
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| 12:12.38 | Monet | http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2014/03/44887_1ae99be8152f10a26d6135cba379bbf4.png Left: Murdoch now, right: Murdoch in 2200 |
| 12:13.12 | AndroImpy | I saw a similar picture with Putin |
| 12:13.48 | AndroImpy | http://cs9478.vk.me/v9478304/2935/gKT5SFw6Nak.jpg |
| 12:14.11 | Monet | Puti nand thep ope are easy targets though, haven't seen that many Palpatine - Murdoch comparisons |
| 12:14.29 | Monet | The pope* |
| 12:15.30 | Monet | Murdoch well...he quie literally has an empire. |
| 12:16.22 | Wormy_ | Impy: The bears on either side make a nice touch |
| 12:19.44 | Monet | News Corporation = MinTruth |
| 12:30.45 | Technobliterator | If there are no objections to my media page idea, I'll create it after my day's revision |
| 12:31.24 | Technobliterator | OluapWorker, btw, do you mind if I create a Rogue Boyz subpage for Loron TV? |
| 12:31.46 | OluapWorker | Do it if you want |
| 12:34.48 | Technobliterator | sweet |
| 12:34.58 | Technobliterator | you can add to it and stuff if you feel like it |
| 12:35.10 | Technobliterator | I also need to write a page on Loron economy |
| 12:36.01 | Technobliterator | ...and the Mafia |
| 12:36.02 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 12:39.24 | AdmiralPanda_ | if anyone is interested in joining the aforementioned fiction let me know |
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| 12:51.54 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 12:52.07 | OluapWorker | ~push Cyrannian |
| 12:52.07 | infobot | ACTION enlists drom to push Cyrannian over the edge of a very high cliff |
| 12:52.21 | Cyrannian | ~dropkick OluapWorker |
| 12:52.21 | infobot | ACTION sends OluapWorker flying like a yipping chihuahua |
| 12:52.29 | drom | u wot |
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| 13:03.01 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Shu%27wokerama he bak |
| 13:03.32 | OluapWorker | Wait no |
| 13:03.37 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Shu%27ytrogarva he bak |
| 13:03.43 | OluapWorker | Got the Shus confused there |
| 13:05.05 | Cyrannian | gud now updaet meketanor |
| 13:05.11 | OluapWorker | update wot |
| 13:05.57 | Cyrannian | The last thing on his page is his encounter with Nirndal and Mar-Júun |
| 13:06.16 | OluapWorker | go blerg urself |
| 13:06.28 | Cyrannian | gladly does so for all to see |
| 13:06.34 | OluapWorker | ew |
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| 13:15.08 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 13:15.35 | Comrade_Bunny | Hey! |
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| 13:30.39 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 13:35.43 | Wormy_ | "google docs. never be unsafe again." "I did and a bunch of pictures of doctors came up" http://imgur.com/gallery/Oo2GpwB |
| 13:36.47 | OluapWorker | Oh wow |
| 13:36.49 | OluapWorker | I didn't know that |
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| 13:51.08 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZzIyNGD ninja'd http://imgur.com/gallery/Wii4jtH 1910's were an odd time http://i.imgur.com/5hPl7YW.jpg those icons/slogans almost look modern http://i.imgur.com/u4CEePs.jpg http://imgur.com/gallery/DywYaTT "You're all stupid. i get apples for like $.50" http://imgur.com/gallery/sw9PFRK |
| 13:52.40 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/7circvL http://imgur.com/gallery/9hiY8qR http://imgur.com/gallery/QfNdTQG http://imgur.com/gallery/1JgOx that ain't no happy meal http://imgur.com/gallery/LvXuWeH |
| 13:57.00 | Wormy_ | so true http://imgur.com/gallery/ZiQeGoT |
| 13:57.44 | Cyrannian | http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/05/21/will-gay-people-eat-my-children-other-referendum-questions-answered/ |
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| 13:58.46 | OluapWorker | olol |
| 14:00.43 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/xrXFi |
| 14:06.53 | Wormy_ | drom: http://imgur.com/gallery/l1NCiZv |
| 14:07.32 | drom | dat is a repost |
| 14:13.44 | Comrade_Bunny | Wormy: "You've successfully combined my two favorite things: Childhood nostalgia, and problematic drinking behavior. Hooray!" http://imgur.com/gallery/Khzn4 |
| 14:13.58 | Comrade_Bunny | I'm definetly doing those today |
| 14:16.02 | Wormy_ | well they look nice |
| 14:23.44 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/hwQ0Mni |
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| 14:27.53 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 14:32.43 | Wormy_ | "Damn nature you full of crazy people" http://imgur.com/gallery/Awqv0 |
| 14:33.36 | Wormy_ | Reading those makes me sad about society |
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| 14:58.25 | Hachiman | Back home |
| 14:58.33 | Hachiman | Feel like I really cocked up on that maths exam |
| 15:00.40 | OluapAway | u done fukd up |
| 15:02.34 | Technobliterator | eh, maths sucks |
| 15:02.54 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/duLJB |
| 15:03.29 | Technobliterator | I was going to tell Eco off for removing talk page content, then I realised a) it's not technically against the rules anymore and b) I really can't blame her for removing that : | |
| 15:10.27 | Wormy_away | I've thought of a new kind of alien first contact. |
| 15:10.51 | TekDroid | Oh? |
| 15:10.57 | Wormy_away | It takes a conceptual so bare with me, though it makes sense. |
| 15:11.47 | Wormy_away | It has been said that (due to complexity), the differences and gap between two human brains (and associated mentality) is larger than the genetic gap between species. |
| 15:12.17 | Wormy_away | Human brains however have evolved such universality that they understand each other to a degree |
| 15:13.10 | Wormy_away | So for aliens with a radically different kind of evolution (I'm not sure how it would be different to ours), might have difficulty imaging two humans are the same species. |
| 15:13.18 | Wormy_away | *imaginging |
| 15:13.24 | Wormy_away | *imagining |
| 15:13.55 | Hachiman | I can see how that could be possible |
| 15:14.16 | Hachiman | I have heard theories that aliens could mistake cities for gargantuan functioning complex organisms |
| 15:14.24 | Hachiman | From afar anyway |
| 15:14.25 | Wormy_away | They would work it rationally in the end, but have great difficulty imagining human society |
| 15:14.36 | Wormy_away | Stephen Baxter said that |
| 15:15.53 | Cyrannian | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t31.0-8/s720x720/11245796_1360841917272197_8068959387136655996_o.jpg |
| 15:16.21 | Wormy_away | Right here is the quote I got this idea from: |
| 15:19.54 | Wormy_away | "We face the same problem as flowers and insects [flower-insect coevolution]. Signalling across the gap between two humans is analogous to signalling across the gap between entire species. A human being, in terms of knowledge content and creative individuality, is like a species. All individuals of any other species have virtually the same programming in their genes and use the same criteria for acting and being attracted. |
| 15:20.47 | Wormy_away | Humans are quite unlike that: the amount of information in a human mind is more than the genetic information unique to one person" |
| 15:21.13 | Wormy_away | --David Deutsch |
| 15:22.11 | Wormy_away | He's quantum computer physicist with very deep (bur rational) arguments about evolution, knowledge and the laws of physics and our place in it |
| 15:23.54 | Wormy_away | I imagine an alien species, which a higher form of "universality" and less independant than humans, who are somehow capable of percieving information more than we are. Thus our differences seem bigger than our similarities |
| 15:27.33 | Wormy_away | Alternatively, an AI might experience with humans |
| 15:28.25 | Wormy_away | Ghel: What is your thoughts on this? |
| 15:31.57 | Wormy_away | Or would it be that such a creature could easily perceive "universal" similarities |
| 15:33.10 | Ghel | If a species' perception is based on these individual differences, I'm not sure if the concept they'd be using to describe us would be at all comparable to our idea of "species". |
| 15:34.09 | Ghel | Although the concept of a species isn't something with perfect boundaries; it's just something for our convenience to classify organisms into. |
| 15:34.17 | Wormy_away | Hm you might be right there, a planet's biosphere might appear more amorphous to them |
| 15:35.01 | Wormy_away | Perhaps they could judge "nearness" and "farness" however, as regions rather than boundaries as we like to imagine |
| 15:35.41 | Ghel | They may consider it more important to deal with humans on an individual basis than as a society as a whole (on an ethical basis, perhaps: they would view dealing with society as a whole to affect individual change in the same manner as we might view influencing an ecosystem to manipulate a local society). |
| 15:36.19 | Ghel | And perhaps they'd be surprised that individuals which such variety of communication are genetically close enough to reproduce. |
| 15:37.21 | Ghel | An AI makes more sense for this than natural aliens: if they don't use such a variety of information, why would they evolve to be better at perceiving it than humans? |
| 15:37.35 | Wormy_away | Indeed |
| 15:38.08 | Technobliterator | does anyone have any comments on the Media idea? |
| 15:38.48 | Wormy_away | Once again what makes me skeptical about an "AI takeover" is that from the start an AI might see things very differently and act very differently |
| 15:39.24 | Wormy_away | Not as of yet, but I haven't properly looked at the thread. |
| 15:39.46 | Ghel | I don't have much more to say on the thread so I've been waiting to see if anyone else has any comments. |
| 15:39.59 | Wormy_away | I could comment later |
| 15:40.20 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:199717 |
| 15:40.27 | Ghel | As I'm sure you know, the idea of an AI takeover has been considered a lot and it's certainly unlikely to happen in the traditional sci-fi manner. |
| 15:40.52 | Wormy_away | This could make for interesting contact scenarios where individual / society confusion |
| 15:41.13 | Monet | Technobliterator: Wondering how to arrange organisations |
| 15:41.23 | Monet | The nthere's stuff like books and music groups/pieces |
| 15:41.25 | Technobliterator | Well, UNO's story more or less is about AI takeover |
| 15:41.29 | Technobliterator | Mhm |
| 15:41.46 | Technobliterator | I think the ==Technology== section could lists the different forms of media consumption as well as FTL travel |
| 15:42.02 | Monet | With new technology comes new media. |
| 15:42.04 | Technobliterator | The ==Organizations== could be a list of organizations by what galaxy/region of space they're located |
| 15:42.29 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11268076_1612061462344256_7055861982906716160_n.jpg?oh=736104e4fa0331b2d9397e5447b82660&oe=55FB24B1&__gda__=1442854988_0b77a6341541b622bfc2ba23b202252f |
| 15:43.17 | Technobliterator | sick burn, yo |
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| 15:48.33 | Monet | Dividing into regions... some groups and media are indeed restricted by region but some are transnational |
| 15:48.47 | Technobliterator | Well, it could be where they're based |
| 15:49.06 | Monet | THat's a good point |
| 15:49.07 | Technobliterator | Although lots of american TV shows are aired over here, they're still based in the US |
| 15:49.29 | Monet | They're still made in the US yeah. SO maybe by region of origin |
| 15:50.24 | Technobliterator | Mhm |
| 15:50.30 | Ghel | We should make sure we have enough organisations for it to be worth dividing them up into region, but in that case yes, that seems like the most reasonable way to do it. |
| 15:52.05 | Monet | Another possibility I suppose is dividin gby medium |
| 15:52.16 | Wormy_away | The DCP must have to go into great difficulty blocking out foreign channels. |
| 15:53.21 | Technobliterator | By medium works too |
| 15:53.43 | Technobliterator | If there end up beinhg too many the list can just be a subpage |
| 15:56.55 | Ghel | Dividing by medium works if there are a lot of organisations that focus only on one primary medium. |
| 16:12.42 | Technobliterator | does anyone here understand functionalism? |
| 16:12.46 | Technobliterator | it is confusing the heck out of me |
| 16:15.31 | Wormy_away | Somewhat |
| 16:17.07 | Wormy_away | Its a form of behaviorism, a way of actually denying the any reality to interna feelings and experience. "So if a computer acts like it has feelings, it probably does.". This is what its most extreme proponents have said. |
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| 16:21.12 | drom | I feel wrecked |
| 16:22.26 | Ghel | ~give drom a cookie |
| 16:22.26 | infobot | ACTION gives drom a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
| 16:22.40 | Wormy_away | It's a philosophy which tries to make it that the science of the mind should only study response to stimuli and ignore subjective aspects completely. Like instrumentalism, its a way of trying to predict things without a realist interpretation, or explanation of what is there. |
| 16:23.49 | drom | Thanks Ghel |
| 16:24.48 | Technobliterator | yeah, that's more or less what we're doing |
| 16:24.51 | Technobliterator | I have to assess its strengths and weaknesses |
| 16:29.17 | Wormy_away | Ah well, I think its major weakness is that its an explanationless method. Without a good explanation of what subjective attributes link to quantities like feelings I think it loses a lot of ability to explain the phenomenon or correct itself. |
| 16:29.33 | Ghel | Isn't behaviouralism the one that only cares about responses to stimuli (i.e. behaviour), with functionalism going a little further and considering emotions to be a useful concept but only in terms of how they relate stimuli to behaviours? |
| 16:29.55 | Ghel | By "emotions" I meant mental states in general. |
| 16:30.35 | Technobliterator | is there any strength of functionalism over property dualism? |
| 16:30.38 | Wormy_away | If you created a prediction that there is a link between favouring political parties and your genetic make-up, but don't have an explanation why genes cause opinions, "a wizard did it" |
| 16:31.25 | Wormy_away | That would be my refutation |
| 16:32.08 | Technobliterator | mhm |
| 16:33.30 | Ghel | I still think you're describing behaviourism there, Wormy. Functionalism would provide an explanation by connecting genes to neuron growth, and neuron growth to the mental states they produce to react to stimuli, and then those mental states to behaviours. |
| 16:33.57 | Technobliterator | Well, I know that functionalism is reducing all talk of mental states to functional states |
| 16:34.17 | Technobliterator | It essentially argues that there is no mind, just a series of inputs and outputs as functions of the body |
| 16:34.41 | Technobliterator | So, "being in pain" is not a thought, it's a property, and the response to that would be an output function |
| 16:34.52 | Technobliterator | (am I getting this right) |
| 16:35.21 | Wormy_away | It allows one to "shut up and calculate" I guess, and not worry about the problem of qualia |
| 16:35.50 | Wormy_away | That would considered a strength to many people with a strongly physicalist world view |
| 16:35.59 | Ghel | I think so. It looks to me like it's similar to behaviourism, but with mental states acting as functions to translate stimuli into responses (while in behaviourism you just consider the observations of which stimuli produce which responses). |
| 16:36.47 | Ghel | Not taking into account qualia, if it can't take into account qualia, would be a weakness assuming that qualia do exist because then functionalism completely fails to account for a major part of experience. |
| 16:36.49 | Wormy_away | You are right, the stimulus is something that can be predicted by understanding those properties |
| 16:39.03 | Ghel | I don't think qualia and functionalism are mutually exclusive; it seems like you could combine functionalism with epiphenomenalism for instance, so the mental states are only physically worth considering as functions, but then qualia arise from them without influencing them. |
| 16:40.09 | Wormy_away | The real problem with qualia is not that they are experienced, but that they are unpredictable (Mary's room argument), which is difficult to account for |
| 16:40.23 | Wormy_away | in physicalism |
| 16:42.04 | Ghel | Mary's room argument fails as a thought experiment: the outcome (that Mary will learn something new upon perceiving colour) is not a given; it just assumes a conclusion about qualia and uses it to "prove" said assumption. |
| 16:42.31 | Technobliterator | I don't quite get Intentionality, so I'll leave it out of this question |
| 16:43.38 | Wormy_away | So not only has functionalism not yet explain how qualia arise and how to predict it, ignoring the problem is likely to make it a case of bad philosophy, because it closes off progress to explain it further. |
| 16:44.24 | Wormy_away | Sorry I can't really find any "strengths", you could say I am biased against it for that. |
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| 16:45.32 | Ghel | Functionalism is useful from a scientific perspective, in that doesn't involve any qualities that don't relate to how things interact with each other, and it's the results of interactions that scientific experiments measure. |
| 16:45.42 | Ghel | in that it* |
| 16:46.42 | Technobliterator | ok, I think I get Intentionality now |
| 16:47.15 | Ghel | I don't think accepting functionalism means ignoring the existence of qualia, but it does seem to mean that the only detectible outcomes of qualia will be the result of functions that produce claims of the existence of qualia as an output. |
| 16:48.07 | Wormy_away | We can't know that they won't be useful in the future however. |
| 16:48.19 | Technobliterator | I think that it does |
| 16:48.36 | Technobliterator | Functional states are based on inputs and outputs, they reduce all mental states to functional properties |
| 16:48.49 | Technobliterator | Qualia doesn't really fit in there, because they are private states |
| 16:48.51 | Ghel | If qualia actually exist as the general idea supposes that they do, that would require more than functionalism. |
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| 16:49.02 | Technobliterator | Typically, functionalism works as a reaction to physical states, which qualia is not |
| 16:49.44 | Ghel | So if we define functionalism as saying that *only* functions exist, and that nothing else - e.g. epiphenomenalism - exists on top, then it is incompatible with the literal existence of qualia. |
| 16:50.04 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 16:50.39 | Ghel | However, the detectable results that are typically ascribed to qualia - e.g. people claiming that they have qualia - are easily accounted for by the existence of functions that produce those results as behavioural outputs. |
| 16:51.49 | Technobliterator | Ghel, can you do me a huge favour and read over my practice exam question answer? |
| 16:52.19 | Ghel | I'm not a philosopher so I may not be of much use, but I can try to help, yes. |
| 16:53.09 | Technobliterator | thanks :o |
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| 16:57.07 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 16:57.11 | dino82_ | hellowz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:57.21 | OluapWorker | Hey dini |
| 16:57.23 | OluapWorker | dino even |
| 16:57.38 | Technobliterator | hihi dino |
| 16:57.41 | Technobliterator | bbl |
| 17:00.31 | Cyrannian | Hello dino! |
| 17:01.09 | dino82_ | :D |
| 17:05.15 | Monet | Hello |
| 17:06.44 | dino82_ | hi |
| 17:08.42 | Wormy_away | hi |
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| 17:23.30 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11329818_855587927830301_3226446356680952391_n.jpg?oh=90e92217df01f20ed5614afd527c93cf&oe=5602AEFA |
| 17:23.57 | Hachiman | Dying Fetus is cool btw |
| 17:25.08 | Wormy_away | I saw Dying Fetus at Download |
| 17:26.35 | Wormy_away | My reaction to that link https://youtu.be/z2Bz25j557k?t=3m16s |
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| 17:41.00 | OluapWorker | Dickings |
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| 18:10.11 | OluapWorker | impu |
| 18:12.59 | Wormy_away | My final report according to Indesign is 58 pages long, not sure how to get word count in it. |
| 18:13.15 | Wormy_away | Only 60% done as well |
| 18:13.35 | Wormy_away | Luckily no upper bound on size |
| 18:15.49 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 18:24.53 | Monet | THat's...quite a report. How many words do you estimate? |
| 18:29.08 | Wormy_away | Somewhere between 20,000 and 50,000 words. I know that sounds crazy, but its a collection of all my work this past two years organised in one place |
| 18:29.29 | Wormy_away | I'll find out when I export to pdf |
| 18:29.40 | Monet | That sounds reasonable ot me |
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| 18:29.56 | Monet | I have a nunfinished novel which contains 40-50,000 words. |
| 18:29.57 | OluapWorker | Goddamnit |
| 18:30.50 | Wormy_away | A dissertation is supposed to be 7000 words on average |
| 18:31.08 | Wormy_away | Mind you, the challenge is not writing words really, its shortening them |
| 18:31.22 | Wormy_away | Luckily I do not have to this for this document. |
| 18:34.00 | Wormy_away | Sorry not two years, one year |
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| 18:34.49 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 18:39.41 | Wormy_away | Aliens are taking over the chat |
| 18:40.16 | DrodoEmpire | yayy lmao |
| 18:40.30 | Hachiman | ayy lmao |
| 18:40.43 | OluapWorker | fuk off aliens |
| 18:40.56 | Hachiman | non fuk u skeleton |
| 18:41.07 | OluapWorker | rattles |
| 18:41.52 | Hachiman | probes |
| 18:42.08 | OluapWorker | Alien vs skeleton war |
| 18:42.11 | OluapWorker | Fund it |
| 18:42.33 | DrodoEmpire | yey |
| 18:42.37 | DrodoEmpire | le new mem |
| 18:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | *meme |
| 18:42.47 | OluapWorker | Not funny anymore |
| 18:42.58 | Hachiman | >le |
| 18:43.00 | Hachiman | Fucking ew |
| 18:43.17 | DrodoEmpire | 3: |
| 18:46.04 | dino82_ | @Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:QholonetLarge.png |
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| 18:52.17 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 18:54.22 | Monet | dino82_: A very colourful sign The thing on the left is a nice touch. |
| 18:55.45 | Xho | myah |
| 18:55.57 | OluapWorker | spu |
| 18:56.17 | Xho | u |
| 18:56.22 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Brezank_Awakens chek conclusion |
| 18:57.57 | Xho | Shu'ytrogarva - LOOK WHO'S BACK BACK AGAIN SHADY'S BACK |
| 18:58.45 | Imperios | http://cs14108.vk.me/c540101/v540101305/208fa/b4IX2feZ94E.jpg Oh god |
| 18:58.54 | OluapWorker | Imp c above |
| 18:59.29 | Xho | Kithworto - ffs cant be bothered to kill you again |
| 18:59.51 | OluapWorker | Shu'ytro - u didnt even kill me the first time nerdo |
| 19:01.01 | Xho | Kithworto - dun care cba |
| 19:01.53 | Imperios | OluapWorkeR: Ooooh he is back |
| 19:02.01 | Imperios | ..Wait OW left |
| 19:02.01 | Imperios | fuk |
| 19:05.36 | dino82_ | @Monet: Thanks! Inspired by your blog |
| 19:09.20 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 19:10.24 | dino82_ | @Drodo: test recieved |
| 19:18.26 | Hachiman | So I just watched a review for a movie called Killer Klowns From Outer Space |
| 19:19.27 | Xho | Like you do |
| 19:19.31 | Hachiman | The klowns' technology appears almost identical to typical circus equipment and encompasses clown and circus tropes |
| 19:19.44 | dino82_ | lol |
| 19:20.52 | Hachiman | It is rather terrifying actually considering that the aliens produce popcorn which transforms into larval klowns and presumably mature into fully adult klowns at a later date and they can manipulate shadows through shadow puppets to affect physical objects |
| 19:22.06 | Hachiman | It is also theorised but not entirely directly stated that the klowns have been visiting Earth for eons until the 80s, having visited the world during the prehistoric era and giving rise to the inherent fear and dislike of clown iconography |
| 19:22.07 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta reminds me of a book I read called "John dies at the End". In the way that that sounds absurd but scary at the same time |
| 19:24.54 | Hachiman | They cocoon people in cotton candy which immobilises them and later drink the blood of the victims trapped within them and they wear silly ties that can mobilise themselves and function as independent limbs |
| 19:27.15 | Hachiman | They can also talk through human corpses like ventriloquists |
| 19:28.56 | Imperios | drom: http://cs625224.vk.me/v625224358/e9a2/TcAIQPNTzy0.jpg |
| 19:29.16 | drom | > mouth |
| 19:29.23 | drom | > illegal shape |
| 19:29.31 | drom | this rustles my jimmies. |
| 19:30.11 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:31.02 | Imperios | It's from a Russian webtoon based on Polandball |
| 19:31.12 | Imperios | It uses mouths, but they only appear when balls speak |
| 19:32.00 | Imperios | https://youtu.be/vg3Qg39l7qs?t=139 That toon |
| 19:34.12 | drom | Imperios: .. and exppressions. |
| 19:35.07 | Imperios | That's not the most illegal polandball toon I saw though |
| 19:35.37 | Imperios | I saw a Russian Polandball webtoon that gives balls big anime-like eyes |
| 19:35.40 | drom | I can recall that one that has irises and uses limbs. |
| 19:35.40 | Imperios | With pupils |
| 19:35.44 | Imperios | And irises |
| 19:35.49 | Imperios | and EYELASHES |
| 19:35.54 | drom | AND HANDS |
| 19:35.54 | Imperios | AND ALL POLANDBALLS ARE FEMALE |
| 19:36.04 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVvmeHwnYKk That one |
| 19:36.30 | Imperios | It is also ridiculously Putinist |
| 19:36.40 | Xho | but i dunt understand russin |
| 19:38.19 | Imperios | https://youtu.be/yLEliVI8bj4?t=354 That scene |
| 19:38.22 | Imperios | THAT FUCKING SCEND |
| 19:38.24 | Imperios | SCENE |
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| 19:39.59 | Xho | return of ups |
| 19:40.24 | Xho | I am very tempted to get some Angry Moon done |
| 19:40.42 | Hachiman | Homework |
| 19:40.48 | Xho | yeh |
| 19:40.50 | Xho | angry moon |
| 19:40.55 | Xho | dat ur homework |
| 19:41.59 | Xho | I'll try again tomorrow t hen |
| 19:44.20 | Xho | If no one has any ideas for their parts yet we can go on to another Oluap has or one of mine |
| 19:44.37 | Xho | Or Imp's |
| 19:44.42 | OluapPlayer | everyone dum-dum |
| 19:44.46 | Xho | aye |
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| 19:49.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 19:50.36 | Charles_Murray | Hey |
| 19:50.37 | Charles_Murray | ! |
| 20:07.45 | dino82_ | hello |
| 20:16.21 | Wormy_away | The sky is pink again :( |
| 20:17.45 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Orichalcum_Elf_Imperium#Notable_locations Added things |
| 20:24.01 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1432228001523.jpg |
| 20:25.34 | DrodoEmpire | BBL |
| 20:29.11 | dino82_ | nice Xho! |
| 20:32.41 | Wormy_away | It is missing an Orion female |
| 20:33.40 | Hachiman | I cannot remember any noticeable Orion characters |
| 20:33.46 | Hachiman | Those are Liara and Darth Talon hur |
| 20:33.57 | Wormy_away | Thats because there weren't any hur |
| 20:34.10 | Wormy_away | No, I mean Star Trek |
| 20:34.35 | Wormy_away | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/c/ca/Orion_slavegirl_ENT.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20041031181901&path-prefix=en |
| 20:34.44 | Wormy_away | Oh no, silly mee, I see what you mean |
| 20:35.05 | Wormy_away | Orions only power over men |
| 20:35.10 | Wormy_away | the females |
| 20:36.34 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "âAn arrogant empire of stuck-up fools who believed themselves the higher and the mightier of the world, refusing to join forces with the rest of Koldenwelt against the Adversary. Bah. They were nothing but a meat shield against the Void, and the world is a far better place with them gone.â" |
| 20:36.42 | Xho | Caligaduro - funi i thought u sea giants wer meat shields as well |
| 20:38.57 | Imperios | Hachiman: >Liara |
| 20:39.03 | Imperios | >Liara |
| 20:39.07 | Imperios | >Fucking Liara |
| 20:39.24 | Imperios | I despise most asari hur |
| 20:39.54 | Hachiman | To be fair, beyond Samara there are not really any other notable asari that use bionics |
| 20:40.23 | Xho | Biotics you mean right |
| 20:40.28 | Hachiman | That is it |
| 20:40.45 | Hachiman | Also redact that, most of them use biotics now that I recall hur |
| 20:40.53 | OluapPlayer | dun make sense |
| 20:43.14 | Xho | God forbid an argument between Longinus and Karps though |
| 20:44.17 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cc/BrezankAwakens06.png/revision/latest?cb=20150521204348 - The Second Team on their way to one of Brezank's reactors |
| 20:44.53 | OluapPlayer | Karps - here's my point *tail slam* |
| 20:45.10 | Hachiman | Wait what |
| 20:45.16 | Xho | Longinus - heers mien *DOUBLE SUN POWER* |
| 20:45.24 | Hachiman | Hachiman's cybernetic arm is on the wrong side hur |
| 20:45.43 | Xho | Hachi's all like "Oh hey look over this massive chasm" |
| 20:45.45 | OluapPlayer | You goofed his model then |
| 20:46.04 | Hachiman | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/09/ModernHachi.png/revision/latest?cb=20140821193046 This is the current model |
| 20:46.11 | Xho | I'm now under the impression that Longinus has Terry Crews' voice |
| 20:47.01 | Imperios | It's not that |
| 20:47.01 | Xho | Thinking about it Longinus shouldn't really be a narcissist since he grew up in a religious order dedicated to protecting the world by zapping Void Denizens |
| 20:47.17 | Cyrannian | Hachiman: le whoops, I used the right model it's just I flipped the picture in Paint.NET |
| 20:47.24 | Hachiman | Oh right hur |
| 20:47.26 | Imperios | Strangely enough I am not particularily fond that the main schtick of the asari is that they're meant to be perfect sexy people |
| 20:47.27 | Xho | Maybe it's just a disagreeable basic Orichalcum Elf thing |
| 20:47.39 | Cyrannian | I'll change it around |
| 20:47.49 | Hachiman | Imperios: Then why do you love elves so much |
| 20:48.14 | Imperios | I do not like perfect elves hur |
| 20:48.19 | MonetSemi | Xho: THat does sound rather contradictory |
| 20:48.24 | Hachiman | But they are elves |
| 20:48.28 | Xho | Dunno |
| 20:48.34 | Hachiman | Elves are kind of automatically perfect by default |
| 20:48.38 | Xho | Longinus isn't really a narcissist in fiction when I see t |
| 20:48.40 | Xho | it |
| 20:48.45 | Imperios | With the asari their very "hat" is catering and causing sex appeal |
| 20:48.45 | Xho | He's just a very disagreeable prick |
| 20:48.57 | Imperios | And while I appreciate that, it makes me feel manipulated |
| 20:49.01 | MonetSemi | Maybe thousands of years of fighting has given hi mthe mindset that he's one of the few people in the world capable of competently protecting it? |
| 20:49.02 | Imperios | And I hate being manipulating |
| 20:49.06 | Imperios | *manipulated |
| 20:49.10 | Xho | Probably |
| 20:49.24 | Hachiman | So you are scared of attractive people |
| 20:50.03 | Imperios | I am not scared of attractive people, I do not like when a species whose main characteristic is being attractive and sensual hur |
| 20:50.13 | Xho | Orichalcum Elves - fuk u den |
| 20:50.30 | Imperios | Their "smartass bastards" characterisation I do appreciate though |
| 20:50.33 | Imperios | Aria is <3 |
| 20:51.04 | Xho | I should really do some old stories on Orichalcum Elves |
| 20:51.13 | Xho | Like how Emperor Keleivel killed the Nahalant |
| 20:51.21 | Wormy_away | Stuff Asari. Vulcan women are the elves of the sci-fi verse http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0VuZmSejUPs/VJGqegx5qwI/AAAAAAAAxXA/dCVI9syx8vQ/s1600/t-pol-93018900569.jpeg |
| 20:51.38 | Hachiman | Or |
| 20:51.41 | Hachiman | Sanguine Promenade |
| 20:51.46 | Xho | dunt u start |
| 20:52.05 | Imperios | Vulcans are nyan |
| 20:52.05 | Xho | If I have enough willpower tomorrow I'll finish it |
| 20:52.15 | Imperios | They were one of the main inspiration for the Radeons probably |
| 20:52.18 | Xho | I should make Keleivel in Spore |
| 20:52.29 | Xho | He was pretty much the Emperor Longinus of 100,000 BNA |
| 20:52.37 | Hachiman | Eval Keleivel |
| 20:52.41 | Xho | Though not as condescending |
| 20:53.10 | Imperios | Xho: What would be a fancy latinate word for "make something lose its Indian features" |
| 20:53.14 | Wormy_away | I never percieved a connection myself, but I suppose both are wrapped in their doctrines |
| 20:53.17 | Xho | Latinate word |
| 20:53.20 | Xho | dafuq is dat |
| 20:53.29 | Imperios | Like "desovietise" but with India instead |
| 20:53.34 | Xho | dafuq u speekin |
| 20:55.01 | Hachiman | Deindiatise |
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| 20:55.47 | Imperios | I'll go with "debharatise" |
| 20:56.01 | Xho | oh u |
| 20:56.09 | Imperios | I am currently sending a fixed, simplified version of my programming assignment |
| 20:56.11 | Imperios | To my teacher |
| 20:56.18 | Imperios | And I was looking for a work to describe the changes |
| 20:56.18 | Hachiman | deackbartise |
| 20:56.53 | Imperios | Hachiman: Doesn't work, Arabs haven't been coding since the 15th century |
| 20:57.05 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/15/BrezankAwakens07.png/revision/latest?cb=20150521205615 - Gavakar - broom broom invisible motorcycle |
| 20:57.27 | Hachiman | Very nice, I like |
| 20:57.41 | Xho | Oh well must be sleeping |
| 20:59.35 | dino82_ | New Scion for upcoming planet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:LilImpaerusLarge.png |
| 21:00.06 | Cyrannian | Very nice, dino |
| 21:00.12 | dino82_ | now only need some sort of demonic creature for the planet, anyone any suggestions? |
| 21:01.17 | Hachiman | Make a succubus-type thing |
| 21:01.50 | dino82_ | succubus |
| 21:02.26 | dino82_ | http://kleberly.com/304709-succubus.html? |
| 21:02.32 | dino82_ | Hmm, as a creature of unique characteR? |
| 21:03.05 | Hachiman | Creature, although enhance on it looking more demonic than feminine |
| 21:03.21 | dino82_ | hmm, thanks Hachi, will give that a try! |
| 21:05.00 | Wormy_away | Succubus strike drawing sleep don't they |
| 21:05.07 | Wormy_away | *during |
| 21:05.09 | dino82_ | haha :d |
| 21:05.13 | dino82_ | Have to go again guys |
| 21:05.14 | dino82_ | see ya next time |
| 21:05.33 | Wormy_away | Goodbye |
| 21:05.46 | Hachiman | Aye they do |
| 21:06.00 | Hachiman | As do Incubi |
| 21:06.36 | Wormy_away | Well I had a series of dreams where this hot demon kept trying to entice me, but I fought it. Finally I managed to shoot it with an arrow and escaped its deadly embrace. Never appeared again |
| 21:07.35 | Wormy_away | Unless shooting with an arrow in the dream world means something different. Didn't think of that. |
| 21:08.15 | Hachiman | olol |
| 21:08.17 | Ghel | If it did, you should have noticed when you woke up. |
| 21:08.59 | Wormy_away | I still have my soul, then. |
| 21:09.33 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b7/ApolloQuadrantia.png/revision/latest?cb=20150521210559 - And thus, the Hat War between Apaltar and Apollo begins. Outfit by Dino |
| 21:09.53 | Hachiman | dat fancy hat |
| 21:10.32 | Wormy_away | Really good work by both of you. |
| 21:12.11 | OluapPlayer | Apaltar - YOU'RE DEAD KIDDO |
| 21:15.05 | Cyrannian | And Apaltar is impervious to the powers of Apollo's democratic sword of words. |
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| 21:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen dino82 |
| 21:22.19 | infobot | dino82 <52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 6d 4h 19m 1s ago, saying: ':D'. |
| 21:22.27 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen dino82_ |
| 21:22.27 | infobot | dino82_ <52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 17m 13s ago, saying: 'see ya next time'. |
| 21:22.32 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
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| 21:49.55 | External | Hello. |
| 21:50.52 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 21:52.22 | Wormy_away | hi |
| 21:55.13 | External | I have to add an entire new empire page equal to the old Nathierm Imperium page. That's gonna be some work. |
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| 22:10.15 | OluapCollege | Worker and College more or less mean the same thing |
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| 22:11.24 | OluapCollege | Oops brb |
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| 22:18.42 | Technobliterator | wb |
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| 22:19.06 | Hachiman | Dumternet |
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| 22:25.31 | External | Grrr...dumternet |
| 22:30.04 | External | How do I undo/revert an edit? |
| 22:30.25 | DrodoEmpire | Go to history, and click "undo" |
| 22:30.34 | External | Thanks. |
| 22:30.39 | DrodoEmpire | History should be on a drop-down bar from "Edit this page" |
| 22:32.32 | External | It is. |
| 22:32.53 | External | I keep clicking "Edit with Form" instead of "Edit Source". |
| 22:34.38 | External | How do you make good flag symbols on Paint.NET? |
| 22:34.50 | Hachiman | Practice |
| 22:35.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:35.29 | DrodoEmpire | Its not something you can really look up. |
| 22:35.40 | Wormy_away | Indeed, that goes for most skills. |
| 22:36.53 | External | Ah. |
| 22:37.03 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Cyrannic_Imperial_Battlestation - You'd have to be sheer mad to draw any comparison or point out any simularity to the Death Star |
| 22:37.58 | DrodoEmpire | sits down slowly. |
| 22:37.59 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
| 22:38.06 | External | I'll just mess around with the tools to see how I can use them to good skill.\ |
| 22:38.30 | Hachiman | Those are really good textures actually |
| 22:38.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its pretty cool |
| 22:39.07 | Hachiman | Especially by Spore standards where the textures tend to fuck up |
| 22:39.27 | External | Cyrannian: Forgotten Spore has building parts you can use for vehicles, if you want. |
| 22:39.42 | Hachiman | Pft mods |
| 22:39.54 | Hachiman | Other than Dark Injection, the Spore mods are pretty meh |
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| 22:40.04 | Cyrannian | Indeed, I had it installed for a while but I prefer Spore with as few mods as possible. |
| 22:40.09 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 22:40.22 | External | Hello |
| 22:40.36 | Quark8 | Cyrannian: Which mod? |
| 22:40.52 | Cyrannian | The Forgotten Spore mod |
| 22:41.02 | DrodoEmpire | Spore doesn't have a big modding community, no. Though, the game hasn't really lent itself to being easily-moddable. Its no EUIV. Even *I* can mod that. |
| 22:41.52 | Quark8 | What does the mod do? |
| 22:42.38 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/t31.0-8/11270299_2211262225587622_5799045215095367590_o.jpg |
| 22:43.17 | DrodoEmpire | nom |
| 22:45.10 | External | Quark8: Basically, the mod enhances the stages and makes the game overall, more realistic. |
| 22:45.39 | External | Quark8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8tSsLhHsr0 |
| 22:47.54 | Halopediaman | That example creature is from nightmares |
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| 22:48.27 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
| 22:48.36 | Quark8 | Hi |
| 22:49.37 | External | Hello |
| 22:51.08 | OluapCollege | Cyrannian: Apollo - the justice star will bring DEMOCRACY and JUSTICE but mostly democracy |
| 22:52.09 | Hachiman | External: We can make better humanoids with just standard Spore and Dark Injection |
| 22:52.22 | Cyrannian | Anteddy - how bout no *joink* |
| 22:52.48 | OluapCollege | Apollo - *swings sword of words angrily* |
| 22:58.25 | External | Hachiman: Making humanoids with those mods piss me off. "Where do I put this..." |
| 23:01.03 | Cyrannian | Bye guys |
| 23:01.12 | OluapCollege | bai horrid entity |
| 23:01.13 | Quark8 | Bye |
| 23:01.36 | External | Bye. |
| 23:08.27 | External | a |
| 23:08.32 | External | Ooops. |
| 23:22.46 | Quark8 | Brb. |
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