IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150514

00:04.05MonetWhere are you right now?
00:10.40Comrade_VinnyWormy_: I have something for you...
00:11.14Comrade_Vinnyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kaganov_Energy_Rifle
00:11.39Comrade_VinnyDo you think the explenation I came with "kinda " makes sense? :')
00:21.32Wormy_Well, it sounds like an electrolaser in purpose
00:22.04TechnobliteratorMonet, just after the lower city cantina
00:22.26TechnobliteratorNot sure what this game wants me to do next
00:22.45Wormy_Except with electrolasers, a laser is used to induce ionisation through the air.
00:25.02MonetTechnobliterator: HAve you tried going to the Hidden Bek hideout?
00:25.28Technobliteratoroh, that's where I'm meant to go?
00:25.31Technobliteratorah, thanks
00:26.29MonetI think it's Mission Vao that suggests it
00:38.30TechnobliteratorAlright, now I need to go to the undercity
00:40.40Technobliteratorwell, I do, but I'm too tired to keep playing, so I'll finish there for noe
00:40.41Technobliteratornow
01:50.12DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10428064_888044291263060_6071549143173051105_n.jpg?oh=c3dcf6bf5415f679f96184e22f6a577b&oe=55D90020&__gda__=1439604649_366924b5bc63b870eb29a8e9cd45b99c
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01:56.57DrodoEmpireSo apparently the Prime Minister is going to be in my town, at my brother's school. o.o
01:57.01DrodoEmpireOookay...
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08:42.42JepardiHi
08:51.09GhelaeHello.
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09:20.48dromhttps://i.imgur.com/XSMzC0w.webm
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11:04.41Wormy_hi
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11:10.08GhelaeHello.
11:12.48Wormy_I keep having bad dreams about a cosmic computer programming me from beyond my control like the one from John C Lilly's book, I am half awake and see a red glint everything, and start feeling like I'm low on oxygen,  Accompanying this I have uncomfortable thoughts about electronic intelligences.
11:13.55OluapWorkerHi
11:15.14GhelaeNever having had nightmares about hostile superintelligent computers myself, I'm not quite sure what you should do about it.
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11:17.46GhelaeIn fact, I don't think I've ever had recurring dreams of any kind (or if I have, I never remembered them).
11:19.01Wormy_I have the a few times a year at least, some re-occuring dreams I had years ago.
11:19.10Wormy_*them
11:19.57Wormy_This is more like a re-occurring hynpnagogia, since I end up waking up.
11:22.33Wormy_Lilly explains his cosmic computer experience was a representation of reductionist laws of physics he had studied, making him feel like a meaningless program controlled by more meaningless programs
11:23.19Wormy_I'm guessing my dreams are part that idea, and part the fact I often read about AI and similar things before I go to bed
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11:37.11dromugh
11:37.55dromStaying over at your parents' house for the summer.
11:37.58dromNot even once
11:38.39Wormy_I've never stayed in halls, I just commute
11:38.52Wormy_a lot cheaper
11:40.41dromThey'll do everything to presude you to get outdoors when it's sunny outside
11:40.57dromUntil they will eventually FORCE you to do so.
11:41.25Wormy_ah
11:41.44Wormy_They want you to have vitamin D
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11:46.47ImpyDroidHi
11:48.18OluapWorkerhello
11:48.53dromWormy_: True.
11:49.14dromThey however know that I hate being outdoors in hot/dry weather.
11:49.33dromSunny weather falls in this category
11:55.27Ghelaedrom: Is there a good reason for your dislike of summer weather, because if not you can't really expect them to sympathise. :P
11:57.13dromI'm quite frail to outdoor weathers and [animal] interaction, so I'm always nagging about these kind of deals.
11:59.04Wormy_Things that annoy me in summer are:  too many tourists, too many insects, too many biting insects, too much overgrown vegetation, sunburn, thirst, smelly bins
11:59.43dromWormy_: Algae in bathing waters.
12:00.07Wormy_yuck, keep that brain moonbeam water away from me
12:00.13Wormy_What
12:00.32Wormy_brain eating amoeba
12:00.47dromThat annoys me to no end when I want to swallow the heat off me.
12:00.58GhelaeI thought you were supposed to be a countryside person, Wormy.
12:01.52dromGhelae: I am a countryside person, I do love the nature, but there is however trade-offs of that. Plus, I live about 2km away the coast.
12:02.35GhelaeNot liking sunburn and biting insects (including tourists) I can understand.
12:03.15drommosquitos, ticks, overgrown vegetation and heat are the worst offenders on my "reasons I hate the summer" list.
12:03.34GhelaeNon-biting insects and vegetation I can't see any problem with.
12:04.05dromOur skin is quite sensitive.
12:04.59GhelaeI just read that in Gollum's voice. I imagine hundreds of years of living underground would have made his skin quite sensitive too.
12:05.04dromA single baby grasshopper sitting on your leg can feel like a sratch.
12:05.43GhelaeSo is that a result of a medical condition?
12:07.01GhelaeIf so, a dislike of the summer seems to be perfectly justified.
12:09.14dromMy dad has a major case of hereditary eczema.
12:17.43Wormy_Ghelae:  I like the countryside in cooler months
12:19.05Wormy_This was a thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_wrestling
12:20.48OluapWorkerOur world is a weird world
12:23.12Wormy_Indeed http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01699/Page43_01_1699947a.jpg
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12:24.04Wormy_hi
12:24.25Monethello
12:29.09GhelaeHello.
12:38.25Wormy_drom:  subtract by adding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS5p9caXS4U
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12:42.24HachimanHai, had to restart for a moment
12:44.28OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
12:44.28infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
12:44.41Hachiman<3
12:46.14OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#The_New_Capital new section
12:49.09HachimanVery nice section, I like that Windey is making more appearances
12:49.17HachimanAnd the speeches were really nice as well
12:49.36OluapWorkerThe version I lost yesterday was more detailed than this
12:49.48OluapWorkerBut I can't be bothered to work as hard as I did after I lost everything
13:01.08Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Cg0hQJb
13:03.29Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/N433h
13:07.09Wormy_Why is there a collection of 30 big cats crapping?  http://imgur.com/gallery/Ub2MJ
13:07.29Wormy_"Guys I couldn't find shit."
13:08.09Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/1KBy6kU
13:11.53dromWormy_: Honestly I thought for a second it would be adding with a negative.
13:16.20HachimanSo my friend told me about The Raid yesterday and it looks like a really good film, alongside its sequel
13:16.34HachimanIndonesian martial arts movie about cops and criminals
13:16.39Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/3cDHM
13:17.03HachimanAnd involves brutal choreography of the Indonesian martial art Pencak Silat
13:18.18Wormy_"First date:  Stolen car" http://imgur.com/gallery/lIhJX55
13:18.29Wormy_Yes I've heard of that
13:21.05HachimanIt is a pretty violent series of movies, involving lots of improvised weaponry and a variety of environments that fights take place within
13:21.11HachimanAlso good story along with them as well
13:25.07HachimanIt also prefers not to be too stylistic with its special effects and involves lots of practical elements, which is good because I feel a lot of modern martial arts movies are ruined by the presence of CGI hur
13:26.16Wormy_Sounds interesting
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13:39.17Wormy_The Pignose Frog  http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/files/2014/02/indian-purple-frog-01.jpg  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_frog
13:40.18dromew
13:40.18OluapWorkerThat's the ugliest frog of all
13:40.37dromLooks more like a toad imo
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14:01.06Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32733873
14:01.24Wormy_Death nail to the Simpsons?
14:02.13HachimanSimpsons has been dead for a long while
14:03.58Wormy_I haven't watched any of the new episodes for the last few years
14:04.08OluapWorkerPretty sure they just announced at least 2 or 3 more seasons
14:04.20dromYes they did announce new seasons
14:04.28dromTheir contract doens't expire until 2023
14:04.33dromwhat I've heard
14:05.23Wormy_But he voices so many of the characters
14:08.03OluapWorkerNever stopped series from continuing over here
14:08.51OluapWorkerShrek's original brazilian voice actor died before the fourth movie came out and it was still dubbed. The new voice is far inferior to the former
14:09.20OluapWorkerSame thing for Squidward in Spongebob's newest episodes. Voice actor died and they got someone with a radically different voice
14:09.23Comrade_VinnyHey Wormy_!
14:09.27Comrade_VinnyYou there?
14:09.33HachimanJesus
14:10.04dromReminds me of EddsWorld and the Altantis disney movie.
14:10.24dromThough, they covered it up with clever excuses
14:10.46HachimanHow did they cover up EddsWorld
14:10.53HachimanI thought the channel stopped producing
14:11.00dromEdd was hit by a voice-changer ray.
14:11.13Wormy_Vinny:  Yes
14:11.37HachimanI would have just cut Edd since it is not Edd anymore
14:12.00Comrade_VinnyI wanna know how you found the explenation I came up with about this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kaganov_Energy_Rifle
14:13.52Wormy_You received my reply about electrolasers?
14:14.27Comrade_VinnyNo...
14:17.39Wormy_Right, well, it looks like an electrolaser weapon in purpose.  Though electrolasers use a laser to induce ionisation through the air by ripping electrons off of molecules, creating a channel for plasma.
14:18.15dromUgh, trying to start C development for Windows is hassle
14:18.19droma hassle*
14:18.32Wormy_It won't work in a vacuum though, so would be useless in space or a ship empty of atmosphere.
14:18.33Comrade_VinnyGonna try to see if there is videos of it too...
14:21.32GhelaeIt does sound like a weapon that works simply by building up a large enough voltage for sparks to from from an exposed conductive tip.
14:22.06GhelaeIt would not be expected to have a long range at all.
14:22.55GhelaeAn electrolaser is more of an electron beam weapon, that uses a laser to (as Wormy said) ionise the air in front of it, which means the electron beam will travel in a straight line.
14:23.30Wormy_"Clearing building and assaulting entrenched fortifications are much easier with a weapon able to kill everybody in a room with a single shot."
14:23.49Comrade_VinnyIn a room! Not all the building at once... :)
14:23.54Ghelae"Electron/proton catalyser" is, as far as I can see, a meaningless term.
14:23.54Wormy_It might useful (if its a voltage weapon) in small spaces, like some kind of grenade
14:24.32Wormy_Yes I wasn't sure what that was implying
14:24.48Comrade_VinnyI was kinda thinking of it as a short range spreading weapon, like a shotgun
14:25.44Wormy_The danger of such "Tesla guns" is that they could arc onto something conductive, and that might effect the person firing it.
14:26.07Wormy_Plus they could be shielded against quite easily too
14:26.15Comrade_VinnyThat was what I feared too
14:26.48GhelaeThe first point needs only the person wielding the weapon to be careful about where they are when they fire it. The second is more problematic, tactically speaking.
14:26.52Comrade_VinnyI thought maybe an adapted armor of some sort could protect the shooter maybe
14:27.18GhelaeSomebody wearing armour that acts as a faraday cage - say, chain mail - will be protected from its effects.
14:27.45GhelaeAs long as the metal touches the ground to divert the current away from the body, that is.
14:28.04Comrade_VinnyYah
14:28.44Wormy_Its probably more practical as a grenade
14:28.54Wormy_or similar device
14:29.05Comrade_VinnyI do like the idea on an electro-grenade :)
14:30.41GhelaeThe issue is then going to be, are your enemies likely to have armour that can protect them from electocution?
14:30.52GhelaeIf they do, I suppose a powerful enough blast might be able to melt through faraday cage armour, or over-polarise a plasma shield.
14:31.26GhelaeIn that case a grenade is the better option, because it'll be able to melt through the wielder's faraday cage armour (or over-polarise their plasma shields) if they stand too close.
14:32.07Comrade_VinnyI will probably just go for an electro-laser instead ^^
14:32.16Wormy_I was about to say, a powerful enough electrolaser could focus that heat on faraday cage armour.
14:32.49Wormy_I suggest an electrolaser weapon that doubles as an electro-grenade launcher :P
14:34.45Comrade_VinnyI think I will make the grenade apart :)
14:45.36Comrade_Vinny[1] Similar to lightning, the rapid heating also creates a sonic boom.[citation n
14:48.36Comrade_VinnySo it will still make BOOM! :p
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14:54.54Cyrannianhai
14:55.23OluapWorker~attack Cyrannian
14:55.23infobotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Cyrannian
14:56.26GhelaeHello.
14:56.32Cyrannian~kick OluapWorker
14:56.32infobotACTION kicks OluapWorker
14:56.59Cyranniani haz obtained the freedom for the summer
14:57.48OluapWorkeryey!
14:58.09OluapWorkerYou move fiction forward now
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14:59.15CyrannianAye, but first the featured fictions. Does anyone have any suggestions?
14:59.54OluapWorkerGotta go eat
15:00.10OluapWorkerBut I nominate Freeland City States for featured empire
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15:01.56Tynorg6Good [time of day], everyone.
15:02.34dromG'day
15:03.45Tynorg6So, I tried to make a page, but it seems that Wikia changed its layout, so I'm a little thrown off.
15:04.13Tynorg6I'll probably get used to it and remember all of the things I need to do in good time, then probably make a page or two. =w=
15:05.44*** topic/#sporewiki by Cyrannian -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || PM Cyrannian your featured article nominations, deadline 15/05/2015
15:07.03Ghelae~give Tynorg6 a cookie
15:07.04infobotACTION gives Tynorg6 a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
15:07.16Tynorg6Oh, thanks~
15:15.09dromBe careful, Ghelae is in reality a secret superintelligent AI with a pursue for world domination.
15:15.45GhelaeThat's completely untrue.
15:15.53GhelaeThere's nothing secret about it whatsoever.
15:17.25Comrade_VinnyGhelae Wormy_Away: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Electro-Grenade.png
15:19.28Tynorg6He's an AI now?
15:19.44Tynorg6Finally uploaded yourself to the 'net after all these years, huh?
15:21.39dromWell, he's not Skynet
15:22.47Tynorg6Not yet.
15:25.23Comrade_VinnyHi Tynorg6, nice to meet you. :)
15:27.33Tynorg6Oh, hello person I've not met before. owo
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15:28.23HachimanHai again
15:29.05GhelaeHello.
15:29.35dromHe
15:29.36dromy
15:34.32Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two/Brezank_Awakens#Chapter_Three:_Arrival_at_Brezank - If you like spaceships and tentacle porn, you'll like this section
15:36.06Tynorg6Hello. =w=
15:36.24Tynorg6I know I'm late to the party, but I learned something today.
15:37.01Tynorg6Dreamy Hachi and Gerden are the two most dangerous things in the Gigaquadrant.
15:37.51OluapWorkerBrezank - noice
15:38.25HachimanBlue is the deadliest shade
15:38.26dromSomebody read the IRC quotes I see.
15:38.37Tynorg6Indeed I did.
15:38.43Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Erde - Also my lil fantasy project
15:38.55Tynorg6And yes, blue is deadly. Can't deny it now.
15:39.44HachimanCyrannian: Danú & Dôn in the Bungalow
15:40.20OluapWorkerNo chance of you returning to the fantasyverse then
15:40.22OluapWorkerdum
15:41.48CyrannianThis is only a small project, I don't have time to be in another collaborative universe that would take up time from my Cyrannian fiction and I don't want to annoy people by making a fiction that I'm not going to use
15:42.29OluapWorkerThis saddens the Oluap
15:42.57Cyranniandrinks OluapWorker's tears
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15:43.46OluapWorkerfuk off stoopid bird
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15:46.22HachimanFucking internet
15:49.17Tynorg6So many years of bad internet. :<
15:49.39Wormy_awayWelcome back Tynorg
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15:53.07OluapWorkerGoddamnit
15:56.03Tynorg6Thank you. =w=
15:58.45Wormy_awayThis looked useless but is useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ysjrRm4NUo
16:01.40CyrannianIs anyone here on Xbox Live?
16:04.02TechnobliteratorNot strictly, but I have used my cousin's account before
16:04.07TechnobliteratorI doubt he still uses that
16:04.33dromCharles_Murray: If NS had grenades, what do you think how the design would look like?
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16:04.55HachimanFucking really
16:06.05TechnobliteratorAlso, I'm seriously considering getting TOR after my last exam
16:06.17TechnobliteratorThis will mean juggling between two MMOs, thogh
16:06.21Technobliteratorthough*
16:06.36dromOh I thought you meant that VPN web browser.
16:06.47Charles_Murraydrom: I'm not too familiar with their infantry forces, so I'm not sure. They general style seems to be a worn, retro style, so I imagine something like this? http://www.propstore.com/product-images/133/142303.jpg
16:07.22dromCould work, pretty much almost similar to what I had in mind.
16:07.44Charles_MurrayTheir general style*
16:07.48Charles_MurrayJust woke up. xD
16:08.26dromI've no issue reading hungover texts
16:08.43Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11255793_1333775039978885_2951289640024268376_n.jpg?oh=37e3183fc0e7878deedb5673802d4c79&oe=5601251A
16:08.53HachimanWhat a nice ploice man
16:09.15OluapWorkerOLOL
16:09.18OluapWorkerolol*
16:09.49dromWell, that's nice of them
16:09.50Cyrannianlel
16:11.53Wormy_awaylol
16:13.31Comrade_Vinny#Brits
16:15.21Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11063893_742564352518705_7667509936030382133_n.jpg?oh=cffee54c146f8063719c3596a568244b&oe=55C2016C
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16:18.03Tynorg6So Wormy is both away and semi-here...
16:18.14Tynorg6I smell a paradox in some form.
16:18.36Tynorg6Or maybe he's actually a subatomic particle.
16:22.00Tynorg6And Wormy has been re-integrated with himself.
16:22.19Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Erde#Geography - c dem continents
16:22.50OluapWorkerThe great Anteddy-riding-Dvottie continent
16:22.50Tynorg6Yeh
16:23.33Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/17993_10153837201110476_1685674772936151925_n.jpg?oh=6f0671cfbfe583eaa91035d5b4f12128&oe=55D44980&__gda__=1439286473_4c718043de0c09672287a725e31e4b63
16:24.23OluapWorkerkek
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16:34.45Hachiman"The kid behind me was getting too over-excited about the last piece of pumpkin pie. So I ordered it."
16:35.23Tynorg6And then ate it...? .w.
16:37.35Wormy_semi_hereWell, yesterday I managed to get the last two hash browns in a cob, I tried to not even mention it so I wouldn't give anyone in front ideas.
16:39.54GhelaeLest more people start putting things in cobs and then all hell will break loose?
16:43.22Cyrannianbai
16:50.07dromCharles_Murray: So I stirred this together. http://s16.postimg.org/4ioikll1x/screenshot_212.png
16:51.14Comrade_Vinny_Hooo... Shinny...
16:52.20Tynorg6What is it? owo
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17:29.41TekDroidToday is a day I feel like there's something I need to do but have no idea and am too lazy anyway
17:35.15Wormy_semi_hereI long for my empty days.  Just after next week
17:50.12Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11012703_2198461276867717_2924374788490719081_n.jpg?oh=4224eb3501dfc123d1acfa969cf2e3af&oe=55C67B23
17:50.54Wormy_semi_hereyep
17:56.10HachimanApparently the fourth Mad Max film is really worth seeing
17:56.26HachimanI never saw the original Mad Max films but I could go and see it
18:01.04Wormy_semi_hereMad Max 1 and 2 were really good
18:01.25Wormy_semi_hereIn 3 i liked some of the scenes
18:02.24Wormy_semi_hereHere is a battle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmf-HCCZYOg
18:02.45Wormy_semi_hereIn each movie society becomes increasingly degenerate
18:02.53Wormy_semi_hereI hope 4 will reflect this
18:03.33HachimanAre you gonna see it Wormy?
18:07.44Wormy_semi_hereI will in a couple of weeks, hopefully when the cinema will be slightly less full of idiots on their phone and shouting
18:09.27Wormy_semi_hereI think this was the biggest dentonation of explosives ever made in film up to that point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GdhcgKycMk
18:09.32Wormy_semi_heredetonation
18:12.51HachimanSince the recent Mad Max movie is a continuation rather than a reboot I wonder if I should see the other three movies first
18:15.07Wormy_semi_hereI think you should
18:15.18Wormy_semi_hereAt least 1 and 2
18:21.02Wormy_semi_hereBy movie three pre-apocalypse humanity was already a legend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23SVHUPrUJ4
18:21.22Wormy_semi_hereat least the children
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18:26.44dromCharles_Murray: I finished the mesh. Whatcha think? http://s16.postimg.org/ugwq4dfx1/screenshot_213.png
18:27.49AndroImpyHiya
18:27.55dromHeyo
18:30.51Wormy_semi_hereThere's film I want to see where there was a massive nearly war that created this radioactive fog that smothers the Earth, killing everyone in its path.  the movie centres around the last town, and they take their last shelter in a building and party as the fog drifts in
18:30.57Wormy_semi_here*nuclear
18:31.38HachimanHm cannot say I remember that
18:34.36dromThe Mist?
18:35.36dromOh it's something else
18:35.46dromSimilar, but no cigar
18:38.13Wormy_semi_hereYeah, and much more apocalytic
18:40.04AndroImpyOluapWorker Hachiman: So I drew this
18:40.05AndroImpyhttp://i.imgur.com/GlZkDhSh.jpg
18:40.37Hachimanolol
18:40.58HachimanKinda cute
18:41.32OluapWorkerolol
18:42.43OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#The_New_Capital have a thing
18:45.52AndroImpyIt's Khadya, Javina and Filonan BTW
18:49.34AndroImpyOluapWorker: Oooh I like that speech
18:50.06OluapWorkerIt gets really sexy until the bed catches on fire
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18:59.57AndroImpyMonet: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=244491616
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19:00.53AndroImpyOh wait he is not here
19:00.57AndroImpyOh now he is here
19:01.13AndroImpyMonet: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=244491616
19:01.15AndroImpyAnd hi
19:02.08MonetAll hail the glorious nation of Sealand
19:03.32MonetAm I needed?
19:04.41AndroImpyNot really, I just wanted to show you this
19:06.46dromMonet: When I had grenades in mind. I made this mesh: http://i.imgur.com/pzF6NZl.png
19:07.20dromKinda looks almost like Star Wars' lightsabers.
19:17.50MonetIt does a bit
19:32.57Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11072048_1596997060539671_1232731885887926529_n.png?oh=363f9759bf090c99a7724d38ba6a71e6&oe=5600DF55
19:34.23dromThe part with red-orange outline (top) is the fuse, which functions as a cork. Pulled up, then twisted and pulled in by a spring, priming it.
19:35.27dromThis grenade is thought to be one of the grenades in NS' arsenal.
19:35.57dromSo, it's called long-grenade in their language.
19:36.35HachimanSo apparently Konami has issued a statement that claims they are interested in redirecting the majority of their gaming division from console and PC platforms to mobiles and incorporating pay-as-you-go models and microtransactions into their products since they believe that such is the future of modern gaming and appealing to the largest demographi
19:36.35Hachimanc
19:39.00MonetIn truth, it is
19:39.06MonetMobile games are huge these days
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19:39.34MonetBut that's what happens when suits make creative decisions.
19:40.19HachimanBut Konami is wrong
19:40.47HachimanQuality will always sell over quantity
19:42.03MonetWe've had this discussion before
19:43.21HachimanEven if Konami does not financially kill itself from this decision, it will still lose a great number of supporters
19:45.28Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxhs-GLE29Q no but they might earn more pursuing mobile games
19:45.41OluapPlayerew game theory
19:46.11OluapPlayerMobile gaming dominates a good portion of chink-land as far as I'm aware
19:46.36OluapPlayerConsoles are being replaced by handhelds
19:47.00MonetGiven Japanese and Korean lifestyles, yeah, mobile and handheld games dominate because very few of te peopel who can afford a PC or console game just don't have time
19:47.11Monetto use them
19:47.40HachimanBut Konami was hardly struggling beforehand
19:48.16MonetAgain, suits
19:48.27Monet"doing fine" is rarely good enough
19:48.28OluapPlayerNo one knows what goes through their minds, this may be a matter of taking opportunities rather than struggles
19:48.45MonetOluapPlayer: I'm pretty sure it is
19:48.46HachimanIt is industrial juggernaut and one of the largest and most successful development and publishing companies without ever having to diverge into something as cheap and soulless as mobile gaming
19:48.54OluapPlayerI'm still against this all because they claim they're going to sell features
19:49.10MonetTo Konami's executives ,mobile gaming is an untapped market.
19:49.28MonetThat everyoe is beating them too
19:49.31Monetto*
19:50.00OluapPlayerOne thing I've seen people say many times and I can see why is that japanese game companies are led by old men who know nothing about actual good game design
19:50.04HachimanIf they had a sect exclusively for mobile gaming it would be fine but they are moving the majority of their gaming division rather than adding to it
19:50.08MonetAs a hardcore PC player, I agree because this is still selling out for the sake of more profit.
19:50.31MonetI think Oluap has a point
19:50.48OluapPlayerExecutives don't care for quality. They only care for profit
19:51.31MonetBecause Konami is led by rich old men with desk jobs, they might not get that some people have time for turnign on the TV or a PC and spend an hour or two immersing in a massive world
19:51.36dromIt is simple, we strave them until they release an actual game.
19:52.22OluapPlayerFirst we had Nintendo going mobile, now Konami
19:52.23HachimanI actually imagine this is why all of the preorder bonuses and microtransaction stuff has been placed into Metal Gear Solid V's multiplayer segment
19:52.27OluapPlayerLet's see who goes mobile next until E3
19:52.58MonetTime spent on consoles or PCs might also be cosidered time spent not interacting with coworkers or clients.
19:53.11MonetOr interacting with society.
19:53.22OluapPlayer2015 is being a really shit year for gaming and we're not even halfway through
19:54.37TechnobliteratorEh, imo it's been shit for years
19:55.02OluapPlayerShit hit the fan completely this year though
19:55.12MonetPlease not this again...
19:55.27HachimanNo, you want us to go through your political talk
19:55.32HachimanWe can go through our game talk
19:55.39MonetOur political talk was more than moaning though
19:55.55OluapPlayerVIDEOGAMES ARE SHIT I MISS SUPER MARIO WORLD
19:55.57OluapPlayerdere
19:57.12MonetI don't mind video gaming world talk at all so long as it isn't straight-up "the gaming world is shit"
19:57.25HachimanBut a large majority of it is shit
19:57.35MonetI know.
19:57.36OluapPlayerI'll not go further into it then
19:58.14TechnobliteratorLet's be honest
19:58.17OluapPlayerTime to cherish what still gives me happiness and wait for my New 3DS to arrive next week
19:58.23OluapPlayerI'm getting it for my birthday
19:58.26TechnobliteratorWhen was the last year we had a really good year, though?
19:58.28MonetCool
19:58.36HachimanI find mobile gaming more cancerous and restrictive than console gaming and even then console gaming has much more potential than mobile
19:58.37TechnobliteratorThe last generation killed it and it's failed to recover
19:58.42MonetTechnobliterator: I'm not going to get myself involved.
19:58.42TechnobliteratorThe declining quality is objective
19:59.17OluapPlayerur quality has declined ever since i met u
19:59.27Technobliteratorwow
19:59.30Technobliterator;_;
19:59.32OluapPlayerkek
20:00.05MonetHonestly I was fine with this conversation until "2015 is shit" came up. The nI got worried.
20:00.14Wormy_semi_hereWe'e all got to be cynics of something hur
20:00.33Wormy_semi_hereSome of us its politics, others humanity, and today, its gaming
20:00.49HachimanAlso I would say Nintendo has a legitimate justification for getting involved in the mobile industry considering they have considerable experience with handhelds already and their console division is falling behind everyone else
20:00.54OluapPlayerI think i've grown cynic regarding gaming ever since I started looking deeper into it
20:01.06HachimanAye same here
20:01.15OluapPlayerNintendo needs to shut up and focus on the NX
20:01.17TechnobliteratorNo one here has the right to tell people what they should or should not discuss
20:01.22OluapPlayerThey barely know how the internet works yet
20:01.34OluapPlayerIf anything they're the biggest example of "old men shouldn't lead game companies"
20:01.44TechnobliteratorWith obvious exceptions
20:02.01MonetToxic behaviour, right.
20:02.04Wormy_semi_hereYeah, I've chosen not to look too deeply into the industry and trends simply I know it will annoy me.  Hence I'm quite oblivious to even what people are saying here about this year being the worst in gaming history.
20:02.34OluapPlayerWhat matters is that E3 is a month away
20:02.45Technobliteratormaybe that will change things
20:02.46OluapPlayerIt feels like yesterday when we were discussing E3 2014
20:02.48HachimanI do believe that if the modern gaming superpowers are not careful we could be heading towards another video game crash
20:02.51MonetWho knows, maybe a few companies are keepign their cards close t otheir chests?
20:03.04Wormy_semi_hereYes indeed.
20:03.15MonetThe video game industry has gotten so big that industrial espionage is a ral thing
20:03.32TechnobliteratorPC games are the future
20:03.35Wormy_semi_hereI thought there was a lot of optimism about indie games anyway?
20:03.42MonetSoem cpmpanies want ot wait unti lthey're ready to unveil.
20:04.02OluapPlayerfuk dat
20:04.06MonetIf I recall, a lot of peopel were talking about Zelda and Jak and Dakster becauseof a leak wasn't it?
20:04.07OluapPlayerMultiplats as the future when
20:04.18Technobliteratorwaitwait
20:04.21TechnobliteratorJak and Daxter?
20:04.28MonetThem or R&K
20:04.33MonetCan't remember
20:04.39TechnobliteratorNo, Ratchet & Clank was never leaked
20:04.45TechnobliteratorThere's a film coming out next year and the game ties in with it
20:04.46MonetZelda then
20:05.06MonetThen there was Project Beast aka BloodBorne
20:05.09Technobliteratorbut goddamn
20:05.13TechnobliteratorGIVE ME JAK AND DAXTER
20:05.22TechnobliteratorSTOP FUCKING AROUND WITH OVERLY MATURE PIECE OF SHIT GAMES ND
20:05.27TechnobliteratorYOU KNOW WHAT THE FANS WANT
20:05.40Wormy_semi_hereI argue that mobile games are probably becoming the biggest, especially in older people because it reaches out to agegroups who are not necessarily gamers.  Plus it links well with gamification, augmented reality and various other media/info domains.
20:05.45MonetWe knew of Project Beast because of a leak because "Beast" was the game's codename
20:07.21Wormy_semi_herethey are often cheap, the easiest to access in the daily environment and as said, more available to a wider demographic
20:07.54Wormy_semi_hereI don't know about quality, but in quantity, I expect mobile games are the future
20:08.35Wormy_semi_hereEven then, I was shown a game on a tablet recently that was comparable to a desktop game
20:10.24Wormy_semi_hereMaybe real gamers will satick to PC's, and mobile platform is marketed more to casuals?  I don't know.
20:10.25TechnobliteratorI believe in Steam Box
20:10.25TechnobliteratorAnd Linux gaming
20:10.26Wormy_semi_herePersonally I quite like the idea of crowd games, AR and so on, though its all very basic so far
20:11.14Wormy_semi_hereI'd love to play a battle re-enactment in the real world somewhere, with a visor or screen showing graphics overlayed on reality
20:12.54Wormy_semi_hereAlso browser games are interesting, using OpenGL, three.js etc, you don't even need shitty flash plugins
20:13.31Wormy_semi_hereThough that is more for the Indie developer world
20:13.56Wormy_semi_herehttps://triggerrally.com/
20:17.23dromWormy_: [triggered]
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20:39.05The_RandomnessHello
20:39.14GhelHello.
21:01.28dromMonet Charles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/TBl1jNK.jpg
21:02.17dromModelling in blender has become hundred times more rewarding.
21:03.10The_Awaynessoh nice
21:03.39dromOh fyi: It is a grenade for my Nomatari Sovereignty fiction.
21:05.17dromGotta do texturing work. But I dont wanna.
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21:39.17dromMonet: UV mapping... http://i.imgur.com/bJby8dU.png
21:39.59MonetIs that for the grenade?
21:40.05dromYes.
21:40.16dromHad to add 12+ seam cuts
21:40.32MonetDoesn't seem very optimised though
21:41.10dromOf course it isn't. http://i.imgur.com/8ojFE3i.png
21:41.12MonetWait those arks, those are the slopes right?
21:41.20dromThe red loops are seam cuts
21:42.29MonetIf you stretch some of the UV ocnnections you might get a more efficient layout for several segments
21:43.33dromWell. It is Blender, it isn't Max or Maya.
21:43.43dromThis is the very first time I do UV mapping
21:44.42Wormy_semi_hereUgh UV mapping
21:45.36dromThere is something so called Lightmap packing: http://i.imgur.com/j8J1dAa.png
21:48.17HachimanWormy_semi_here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxb5lSPLy9c New Vsauce
21:54.52dromMonet: Now that's better. http://i.imgur.com/1roxpMx.png
21:55.10MonetThat's a lot better yeah
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21:58.46HachimanHello
22:05.44Aeohello. Summer is here. I took my last finals.
22:09.42dromGot only the finals in Mathematics left to do.
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22:19.41TekDroidWelcome to the summer break club then, Aeo. (I've been done for 3 weeks now)
22:20.16Wormy_semi_herethanks
22:20.42TekDroidAnd anyone else on or almost at summer break too. :P
22:21.40dromNot me, but I'm currently on a study-purposal break
22:31.40Wormy_semi_hereHachi:  Also watching the video where he goes to Alaska
22:33.48Wormy_semi_herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLnEHiIMohM
22:33.56Wormy_semi_hereHow did I not know this place existed?
22:34.09Wormy_semi_hereOh well thats why we watch Vsauce
22:45.06Wormy_semi_hereHachiman:  http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/Monster-eel-landed-Plymouth-fisherman/story-26506354-detail/story.html
22:46.02Wormy_semi_hereThat will make a feast
22:46.50HachimanJesus
22:46.54HachimanThat is impressive
22:51.27The_Randomnessayy lmao
22:52.09Hachimanayy lamo
22:52.13Hachimanlmao even
22:52.14HachimanFuck
22:52.30The_Randomnessmy meme > your meme
22:52.32The_Randomness8)
22:52.47HachimanMy pepes > Your pepes
22:52.50Hachiman:^)
22:52.52The_Randomnesstrue
22:52.56The_RandomnessI don't even have any
22:53.33The_RandomnessWatching that new vsauce video right now
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22:53.52DrodoEmpireHi everyone
22:53.53The_RandomnessHello
22:54.23HachimanHai Drodo
22:54.47DrodoEmpireHai
22:55.42Wormy_semi_hereRandom:  Watch the Alaska one too
22:56.01The_Randomnesswhich one is that?
22:57.25The_Randomnessnvm, found it
23:06.54Wormy_semi_herehttp://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/05/06/william-and-kate-tuck-into-royal-placenta/
23:07.32The_Randomnesswtf did I just read
23:08.16Wormy_semi_herehttp://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/03/31/hundreds-raped-and-murdered-as-viking-reenactment-goes-horribly-wrong/
23:09.22The_RandomnessIs this like the British version of the Onion?
23:11.22Wormy_semi_hereIrish
23:11.36The_Randomnessrite
23:11.49The_RandomnessI love satirical news
23:11.54The_RandomnessIt's so much fun to read
23:13.14Wormy_semi_herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?t=83&v=BmvK2Y8i9pQ
23:13.19Wormy_semi_herethey have vids too
23:13.23drombloody brit islands
23:14.40dromBloody brits
23:14.44dromhow do they work?
23:15.04Wormy_semi_hereThis one made me laugh http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/05/14/taxidermied-margaret-thatcher-arrives-at-no-10-in-glass-case/
23:15.32The_Randomnesslol
23:15.45Wormy_semi_hereIrish =/= Brits
23:16.01dromEvery workers' nightmare
23:16.12dromI know.
23:21.57dromWe usually see them as Brits, but more drunken and reversed.
23:22.41Wormy_semi_hereReversed in what way?
23:22.54dromPolitical incorrectness is nigh unmeasureable
23:23.04The_RandomnessHe might've meant reserved
23:23.14dromBelief and manners
23:23.26Wormy_semi_hereWell, I can't really tell apart Scandanavians
23:24.02Wormy_semi_hereMaybe I can distinguish Iceland
23:24.40Wormy_semi_herehttp://imgur.com/gallery/VblBm0L
23:25.24HachimanAll Danes are the same to me
23:25.26dromSeen that.
23:26.52dromWe do indeed blame each other and we are 100% gay.
23:29.26dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/3sqA7
23:29.27Wormy_semi_herehttp://imgur.com/gallery/vi4mZ17
23:29.50Wormy_semi_herehttp://imgur.com/gallery/G6w15hR
23:31.08The_Randomnessthat puzzle image is interesting
23:31.52dromIndeed, the artist also does posters
23:32.00dromVery funny posters, I do own one.
23:32.37dromBut it was a while ago I pulled it down from my wall. So I don't know where I've put it.
23:33.37dromhttp://i.imgur.com/wcjSxHm.png
23:33.37Wormy_semi_herethey have online puzzles http://www.wasgij.co.uk/online-puzzles/mini-puzzle-6
23:34.01Wormy_semi_herei dun geddit
23:34.10dromoh god that loading image
23:34.26dromWormy_semi_here: "Because they have more skin"
23:36.24dromuh, it somehow stucks loading at 33%
23:37.45drombloody shockwave flash
23:41.42DrodoEmpiretest
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23:43.32AnonyTestLIFE IS MEANINGLESS.
23:43.34AnonyTestGOD IS DEAD.
23:43.48HachimanOre wa ochinchin ga daisuki dayo
23:43.52The_Randomnesssame
23:45.54Wormy_semi_hereAnony:  Well that takes the weight off my shoulders.
23:47.59AnonyTestI know, isn't it great?
23:48.54DrodoEmpirehttps://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11230116_920066438016069_3948991853148474069_n.jpg?oh=40f594ab28b83c6a048f9fce83a2057b&oe=560830F3
23:49.36The_Randomnessunexpected meme
23:50.45Wormy_semi_hereTime for a bot of STO grinding
23:50.49Wormy_semi_herebit
23:53.10The_Randomness"Commander Riker has become food." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7MXj0rpx18
23:56.31dromWormy_STO: Found this: http://www.wasgij.co.uk/images/uploads/downloads-wallpapers/Lib_Dem_HR_Image_Downloads.jpg

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