IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150508

00:00.02Technobliterator^
00:00.13TechnobliteratorWe need more people doing actual maintenance work
00:00.36TechnobliteratorNone of our userbase does, then complain about lack of admin promotions :/
00:01.07External_So I have no idea how to handle the forum/message wall spots. One of them is deleted and the other would just have it look dumb (Messages without content.) after I "fix" or "whatever" with the pages
00:02.47Technobliteratorwoah, Lib Dems lost a lot of votes
00:02.59Wormy_I don't quite understand the problem.  if you can click "Edit", you should be able to remove the links.  If not you have my permission to remove the messages
00:03.05Wormy_Indeed
00:03.28External_Oh, the LINKS
00:03.36External_Alright, now I know/
00:03.40Wormy_yes
00:04.59Wormy_The "What links here" function tells you all the broken links, all one has to do is then remove those links
00:06.10Wormy_Vote Comrade Mollie for the COMMUNIST PARTY!
00:06.26External_AUTOCRACY
00:06.30Wormy_Technobliterator:  Hey remember IRC 5 years ago?
00:06.35External_:DDDD
00:06.54Technobliterator5 years ago IRC was dead
00:06.56The_RandomnessChat only has two options: anarchy or democracy
00:07.10External_Wormy_: If you don't notice, the entire Youtube chat is abuzz with communist jokes
00:07.14Wormy_I just had a flashback to IRC or wikichart regarding the election
00:07.18External_The_Randomness: Anarchy/
00:07.27TechnobliteratorI don't remember, sadly
00:08.23External_#ISISinEngland
00:08.27External_>:DDD
00:08.29Wormy_It was disappointment
00:10.54Wormy_Jo:  I have a feeling it might be another hung parliament
00:11.26TechnobliteratorNah, this looks dead set to be a Tory majority
00:11.36TechnobliteratorI'm sad for the Lib Dems :c
00:11.52External_We have presidents and legislatures.
00:12.05External_#ObamaFTW
00:13.03Wormy_Techno:  Did you see, the graphics made a mistake?
00:13.33Wormy_They put the Labour results down before the annoucement, and then quickly turned the graphics off
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00:13.54Wormy_It may have been lag though
00:13.58Quark8Hello.
00:14.04Wormy_hi
00:14.36External_Almost done...
00:14.39TechnobliteratorDidn't see that :o
00:17.23Wormy_I'm pleased that the Greens are getting up, even if its small
00:17.29External_Done!
00:17.56TechnobliteratorSame
00:18.08TechnobliteratorI think Greens will rob more Lib Dem votes in future
00:19.35Wormy_indeed
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00:29.35Wormy_FUKP is actually a thing?
00:30.06Wormy_lol http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/al-murrays-fukp-election-party-5525414
00:32.02HachimanYeah
00:32.24HachimanI saw the documentary about Al Murray's FUKP campaign earlier today
00:32.36HachimanTrying to wrestle South Thanate from Nigel Farage
00:33.02HachimanThanet even
00:33.15Wormy_Heard of http://www.vice.com/en_uk/video/al-zebabist-nation-of-ooog-election-15-329 ?
00:33.21MonetI wish him luck
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00:34.45Wormy_Pukip lol
00:34.48Wormy_hi
00:34.50DrodoEmpireHey everyone
00:34.52DrodoEmpireHi!
00:35.08MonetHello
00:35.40Quark8hi
00:41.29Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/i4bmKqv
00:42.07Wormy_I voted SPARTA http://imgur.com/gallery/Wyb9t
00:42.32The_Randomnessnice
00:42.47DrodoEmpirehur
00:43.09DrodoEmpireFunny, but the history nerd inside of me is frustrated at the lack of historical accuracy. >.<
00:44.02DrodoEmpireNot that I'm an expert of ancient Greece or Greek warfare, but I know for a *fact* that Hoplites didn't run into battle naked. Sounds like a bad idea personally
00:45.22The_Randomnesswell duh
00:45.36Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/7PlS1
00:46.01Wormy_I think its a 300 cosplay, not a Sparta re-enactment
00:46.09DrodoEmpireYeah I know. XD
00:46.59DrodoEmpireA reenactment of ancient Greece in the middle of the UK would be just a *bit* out of place.
00:48.27Wormy_Outside the movie 300, it is probably Athens people here think most about for Ancient Greece
00:48.39DrodoEmpire^
00:49.16HachimanNah Sparta for me
00:49.56DrodoEmpireAthens was in my opinion the more significant of the two cities. Sparta had its days in the sun then *really* went downhill. Athens contributed *so* much more in terms of culture, etc.
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00:50.29DrodoEmpireFrom my admittedly scarce research of ancient greece, this is the conclusion I have
00:50.44MonetDidn't the Spartan defence at Thermopalye end up serving as breathing time for the other Greek cities?
00:50.53DrodoEmpireYeah it did
00:51.47HachimanAye
00:52.10HachimanAlthough I should note that it was not just Spartans that contributed
00:52.18Technobliteratorwell fuck
00:52.20MonetOh no there were lots more.
00:52.30HachimanLots of soldiers from other cities were present
00:52.36DrodoEmpireYeah
00:52.49DrodoEmpireThere were some 5000 other troops present
00:52.53TechnobliteratorI'm definitely voting Greens next time
00:52.58Technobliteratorand not the Lib Dems
00:53.10DrodoEmpireSpartans were, I believe, military advisors, basically. Officers.
00:53.12Monet200 Spartans vs thousands of Persians? I don't care how good your general is, those odds are night-on impossinle.
00:53.18Monet300*
00:53.32DrodoEmpireWell yeah they were but remember the chokepoint
00:53.40The_Randomnessindeed
00:53.57Wormy_Athens had a mini-enlightenment
00:54.37DrodoEmpireWhich is the only reason why the 5000-ish Greek had any chance at all
00:54.50Wormy_The Spartans on the other hand were static and traditional
00:54.55DrodoEmpire^
00:55.18DrodoEmpirePlus the phalanx, which barring a few machine guns was the *ideal* formation for the sort of terrain they were fighting in
00:55.24DrodoEmpireA pike wall, phalanx, etc.
00:57.05Wormy_Didn't know David Blunkett was blind
01:02.17MonetAthens did appear to come out the superior state in the end. Being the centre of the Delian League.
01:02.25DrodoEmpire^
01:03.23MonetDiplomacy has formed some mighty powers
01:03.28The_RandomnessI just got done with the last homework assignment for this semester that I have to turn in :D
01:04.00Wormy_"cameron playing GTA5"
01:04.20MonetThe Delian League, the Roman Republic,the Holy Roman Empire, the Soviet Union, NATO etc.
01:04.23Wormy_There's random footage of Cameron (I think) driving a car
01:04.31DrodoEmpireHuh
01:04.40MonetGranted some of those were also by military force but there was diplomacy too
01:05.15Wormy_"he is driving in the middle of the road"
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01:05.29HachimanHai Panda
01:05.37AdmiralPandahai all
01:05.43The_Randomnesshey
01:06.47Charles_Murray_So I'm a little puzzled by this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/%E2%80%A6   I'm thinking it must be a problem with some taxonomy template, because "..." doesn't show up on any of these pages whatsoever.
01:07.34The_Randomnessyeah, that looks like an issue with the template
01:08.47MonetI am unaware of how Sparta fell from grace
01:08.57Charles_Murray_Basically, they failed at war
01:08.58Charles_Murray_Funny enough
01:09.23MonetAgainst who, may I ask?
01:09.53Charles_MurrayI -think- Thebes, though you might want to check me on that one.
01:09.57Technobliteratortaxon template glitches are common
01:11.13Charles_Murray"Sparta entered its long-term decline after a severe military defeat to Epaminondas of Thebes at the Battle of Leuctra. This was the first time that a Spartan army lost a land battle at full strength."
01:11.29Charles_MurraySource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta#Hellenistic_and_Roman_Sparta
01:12.28MonetSO the first defeat was against Thebes
01:12.39MonetThen it looks like they ended up i na scuffle with Macedon
01:13.19DrodoEmpire"A Field Guide to Penis Worm Teeth"
01:13.22DrodoEmpireOkay then.
01:14.34Monet"When Philip created the league of the Greeks on the pretext of unifying Greece against Persia, the Spartans chose not to join, since they had no interest in joining a pan-Greek expedition unless it were under Spartan leadership. Thus, upon the conquest of Persia, Alexander the Great sent to Athens 300 suits of Persian armour with the following inscription: Alexander, son of Philip, and all the Greeks except the Spartans, >
01:14.35Monetgive these offerings taken from the foreigners who live in Asia [emphasis added]". >> Hot-damn Alex that's cold
01:17.29HachimanSo basically Spartans were too prideful
01:18.12MonetYeah.
01:18.21AdmiralPandatbh all greeks were
01:18.36MonetI think this might have been after Alexander decided he was the son of Ra.
01:19.35MonetThe most powerful man in the Eastern Meditarranian essentially snubbed them.
01:20.22Wormy_David Cameron is weaving around both sides of the road again, is he having celebration drinks alreay?
01:21.31MonetLabour's a bloody train tonight.
01:21.45Monet13 seats already
01:21.48AdmiralPandagoddamit, I finally finish rebuilding the ship's refinery system, and then Keen goes and gives us upgrade modules we can attach to the back to improve their effectiveness
01:22.27Wormy_I know you hate Labour, as I do.  But it gives me hope that the Tories aren't ahead.
01:22.47Wormy_Still, they probably won't change much even if they do get in
01:23.00MonetI don't want another recession.
01:24.49Wormy_Stilll, Labours losing a lot of Scotland by the look of it
01:25.18Wormy_If that is the case we may be stuck with Conservatives indefinitely.
01:25.48MonetI'm fine with that really
01:26.31MonetCameron may be a detached wanker but the Conservativs have brought down the national deficit and returned GDP to pre-recession levels
01:27.31TechnobliteratorI'm not
01:27.43TechnobliteratorThey can fuck off and do one if they get rid of the NHS
01:27.45Wormy_Nah, doesn't change the fact that there are rising numbers of people needing foodbanks, that they introduced bedroom tax and want to bring back fox hunting
01:28.28Wormy_The Conservatives are detatched from the life of lower, working and lower-middle class people
01:28.30TechnobliteratorI'd take the Tories over UKIP, I'll give them that
01:28.36Wormy_Yeah
01:28.43TechnobliteratorI just want the Greens to get in ;__;
01:29.18TechnobliteratorGiven declining support of Lib Dems and Labour, I'd say they'll become a more established alternative soon
01:29.28Wormy_<PROTECTED>
01:30.26Wormy_Our hospitals were over-capacity last winter.  We had people with disabilities having their life made harder by cuts
01:30.53TechnobliteratorThe Tory ideology is that they want a few elites on the top and lower people on the bottom to create a class structure
01:30.58Technobliteratoryeah, no thanks
01:31.25Technobliteratorhooooh boy
01:31.25Wormy_They spent loads of money on two air craft carriers we don't really need and won't even be supplied with planes for about 10 years (and crappy multi-purpose ones).  What a fucking waste
01:31.27MonetI don't want to argue, not tonight.
01:31.32TechnobliteratorSNP are winning everywhere
01:31.41TechnobliteratorLiterally everywhere in Scotland
01:31.45TechnobliteratorHoooooly fuck
01:31.57TechnobliteratorI reckon we'll see a Scotland split from the UK
01:32.07TechnobliteratorThen they'll fuck themselves over and beg to rejoin us
01:32.09Technobliterator:)
01:32.21Wormy_I'm no fan of Labour, I'm more of a Green (and was a Lib Dem) but that's my stance
01:33.04MonetTechnobliterator: TImes like this make me doubtful of democracy as a system
01:33.23Technobliteratorour politics should be run like reddit
01:33.30Wormy_Techno:  If they do I'm moving there
01:33.33Technobliteratoryou should be able to downvote people you don't want
01:33.40MonetNo I mean there's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy too much focus on the now.
01:34.18TechnobliteratorDemocracy is a terrible form of government, but it's the best one we have
01:34.26DrodoEmpireYeah sorta
01:34.59Monet"sorta" yeah
01:35.05HachimanYou and your democracy
01:35.27Technobliterator14,000 votes for UKIP
01:35.30TechnobliteratorFuck off
01:35.31DrodoEmpireI'm a borderline Monarchist. The only gripe there is that it can be pretty difficult to, say, become politically empowered. :p Or really to *ensure* that your rights are being upheld. Though, there are workarounds.
01:35.45HachimanI am quite the opposite]
01:35.48HachimanFuck the monarchy
01:36.12The_Randomnessmonarchy is silly
01:36.24HachimanIdeally a meritocracy or technocracy is the best solution
01:36.26DrodoEmpireNah, I love monarchies in general. :p Very efficient in terms of getting things through and have such a history and prestige to them.
01:36.35DrodoEmpireThough, again
01:36.37DrodoEmpireThere are problems
01:36.37Wormy_Democracy is a vast social experiment, at least
01:36.53TechnobliteratorI declare a new IRC rule
01:37.01TechnobliteratorUKIP supporters are permabanned
01:37.03Technobliterator:)
01:37.09The_Randomnesskek
01:37.15Hachimandats discrimination tho
01:37.26Wormy_people working fallibly, to find better solutions and understand the world.  Its open and subject to criticism, that's why I'd argue for it
01:37.35Technobliteratordiscrimination just like their own policies
01:37.57Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-england-32595003
01:38.05Wormy_That was disgusting
01:38.15MonetThe more I express my views the more miserable I might get tonight
01:39.16MonetSo I might turn in for tonight
01:39.29Wormy_Goodnight
01:39.56The_Randomnessbye
01:39.57Wormy_Though we disagree what party should rule, we do want similar things :)
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01:40.07DrodoEmpire_Back. >.<
01:40.07DrodoEmpire_Anyway
01:41.05MonetWormy_: That's party factionalism for you.
01:41.08MonetAnyway, goodnight.
01:41.17TechnobliteratorFUCK OFF UKIP
01:41.33TechnobliteratorSTOP GAINING ANY VOTES AT ALL
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01:41.47DrodoEmpireDamn!
01:41.56DrodoEmpireAnyway, *as I was saying*.
01:42.21*** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Rules: vote UKIP and risk a permaban
01:42.45Wormy_A Labour-SNP coalition would be fun
01:43.06Wormy_Lots of debate then
01:43.06TechnobliteratorTory-SNP is more likely
01:43.17DrodoEmpireMonarchies are from from being free from corruption, either. But Meritocracies, as I can tell, have the potential to be spectacularly corrupt.
01:43.24DrodoEmpire*far from being
01:43.25Wormy_Well the SNP said they will never support Tories
01:43.42Wormy_And would be willing to form a coalition with Labour.  But not vise versa
01:44.55TechnobliteratorDemocracy is the only form of government I will support
01:45.12Wormy_yeah
01:45.40Technobliteratorany other can be easily corrupted
01:45.43Wormy_I know some anarchist communists.  They think it can work better than democracy but I see it as just idealism
01:45.53DrodoEmpireWell yeah, we were all raised in democracies (I assume at least) so we obviously support the idea. I'm willing to consider others though
01:45.58DrodoEmpireTech: LOL
01:46.06DrodoEmpireDemocracies are *extremely* corrupt! XD
01:46.32DrodoEmpireNot to say others can't be either, but its hardly the lack of corruption that makes a democracy competitive.
01:47.21TechnobliteratorThat democracies can be corrupt does not change the underlying fact that others are more prone to it
01:47.45DrodoEmpireEhh... No, I wouldn't say democracies are any less prone
01:48.22DrodoEmpireLobbying, corporations lining the pockets of politicians, private dealings... All things that happen every day in your average democracy.
01:48.29DrodoEmpireAll things that happen elsewhere too
01:48.43DrodoEmpireIn every government system
01:49.25Wormy_Alright I'm slightly open to the ideal of anarchist communism, but it assumes too much about how altruistic people are imo, and I fear things like science would very difficult in such a society
01:50.33TechnobliteratorAll this supports my view that humanity is fucked and our doom is inevitable
01:50.34DrodoEmpireWith monarchies, it can be the same way, of course; Aristocrats can pressure weak rulers to do their bidding, the always-present bribery, plotting, decadent rulers, etc. Slightly different rules, same amount of opportunities
01:50.35Technobliterator:)
01:51.00DrodoEmpireOf course humanity will meet its end. Doesn't mean we *give up*.
01:51.06DrodoEmpireNot to open this can of worms again
01:51.20TechnobliteratorOr just let robots take over, as we should do
01:51.32DrodoEmpireLets not.
01:52.47Wormy_Humanity will either die out or change into something-else.  And you are forgetting robots would be in a weird sense ourselves, built and enacting our knowledge for a long time
01:54.14TechnobliteratorI don't reckon it's long before Scotland have another referendum
01:54.57TechnobliteratorIt is more or less certain
01:56.21AdmiralPandagiven the Australian greens party, the idea that anyone would want the greens in power is hilarious
01:57.44Charles_MurrayDum cache needs to update
01:58.20AdmiralPandadunno how it is in britain, but here in aus the greens are all as close to hippies as aussies get
01:58.56DrodoEmpiretest
01:58.57TechnobliteratorThey're not quite hippies over here, and they're not too radical, but
01:59.01AdmiralPandacomplete nutjobs, if you look at their policies I honestly think their preferred version of Australia is an Australia with no people
01:59.04Technobliteratorthey make some unrealistic claims
01:59.11Wormy_Techno:  They displayed the number before announcing it again
02:00.23Wormy_I mean maybe they can do that, but i noticed they hide the graphic when it happens
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02:12.46AdmiralPandaTekDroid: I finally get the refinery and assembly systems online, and Keen releases augmentation blocks
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02:14.15Tek0516lol
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02:56.31DrodoEmpireAnyhow, I gotta go
02:56.37DrodoEmpireNight everyone
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09:03.35JepardiHi
09:05.03GhelaeHello.
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09:19.59AdmiralPandahi a ll
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09:26.06Wormy_Hello
09:26.59Wormy_Well.  How disappointing.
09:27.46AdmiralPanda?
09:27.55Liquid_InkBritish electon.
09:28.10Liquid_InkOne does not simply beat The Sun God.
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09:54.15GhelaeHello.
09:54.38HachiTopHai
10:01.24Wormy_I might move to Scotland
10:03.02HachiTopWhy on Earth would you do that
10:03.53HachiTopIf a second Scottish referendum happens you will end up in a worst economic situation than our own
10:05.15Wormy_I cannot bare the Tories.  Now Lasbour have Scotland we are stuck with them indefinitely.
10:05.25Wormy_*Now SNP have
10:11.55Wormy_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tory-councillor-mark-winn-says-food-banks-are-only-used-by-those-with-drug-alcohol-and-mental-health-problems-9956609.html
10:12.10Wormy_Tory "compassion"
10:14.28AdmiralPandaNow I remember where I've heard that name before, the Tories were around back during the South Sea Bubble weren't they?
10:14.38HachiTopOh wow
10:15.40AdmiralPandaalso, the business advisor to Tony Abbott believes that climate change is a conspiracy promoted by the UN to kill democracy and establish authoritarian control of the world
10:16.49HachiTopSo it appears that UKIP have lost South Thanet
10:17.04Liquid_InkThe Coalition is a subsidiary of the coal industry.
10:17.08HachiTopAl Murray the Pub Landlord and the rest of the FUKP party will be pleased hur
10:17.15Wormy_Indeed
10:17.51AdmiralPandawhat exactly does FUKP mean by chance? because at first reading it looks like Fuck United Kingdom Party
10:18.21Wormy_Its play on "UKIP"
10:18.36HachiTopFree United Kingdom Party
10:18.47AdmiralPandaI was close lol
10:19.17HachiTopIt is supposed to be said as "fuck up" though hur
10:19.29Wormy_I like the Al-Zebadist Nation of Ooog http://www.vice.com/en_uk/video/al-zebabist-nation-of-ooog-election-15-329
10:20.05HachiTopFUKP is hoping to win votes based on the fact they promise to make dog ownership free
10:20.57HachiTopAlongside other "common sense" derived policies, like bar code tattoos for immigrants who move into the country legally
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11:03.34MonetTechnobliterator: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32633719
11:03.38MonetAnd hi
11:08.19HachiTopHai
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11:09.28HachiTopHai
11:09.34OluapWorker~cuddle HachiTop
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11:10.46HachiTop<3
11:11.45OluapWorkerHow are you feeling?
11:13.21HachiTopStill pretty bad
11:16.10OluapWorkerdont die pls
11:21.51Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/mPSpegs
11:25.16Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/vyxFihL
11:26.08Wormy_http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10061580.ece/alternates/w1024/daily-cartoon20150222.jpg
11:26.41Wormy_http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10094542.ece/alternates/w1024/daily-cartoon20150309.jpg http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10115083.ece/alternates/w1024/Daily-cartoon-20150318.jpg  http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10161109.ece/alternates/w1024/Daily-cartoon-20150408.jpg
11:28.28MonetLol Miliband's teeth
11:29.42Wormy_http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22630202.200-us-army-calls-for-ideas-on-invisible-uniforms-for-soldiers.html#.VUyd3_lVhBc
11:33.16Wormy_Solider hauled 30mt into air by giant flag http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-32651238
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11:42.07HachimanOn main computer now
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12:38.43AdmiralPandahi all
12:38.49Monethello
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12:40.17GhelaeHello.
12:40.56Wormy_hi
12:41.22TechnobliteratorMonet, yeah, I saw
12:41.37TechnobliteratorNeedless to say, my reaction was "8D"
12:41.57TechnobliteratorMiliband gone too, now maybe Labour will geta  decent PM
12:42.00Technobliteratoralso hi Ghel
12:42.07MonetIt's been a while though
12:43.32Wormy_Ghelae:  Prepare for an astrology ward coming near you soon.
12:44.08GhelaeI know.
12:44.13MonetThe last Labour PM was John Callaghan, but his impact was massively overshadowed after Maggie got in
12:44.31GhelaeMaybe even a homeopathy clinic too.
12:44.36Comrade_VinnyNO!"
12:44.43Comrade_VinnyThe bad guys won in UK!
12:45.16GhelaeNo, Vinny; UKIP only got one seat. :P
12:45.18Wormy_They always do!
12:45.29TechnobliteratorI wouldn't call the Tories "bad guys"
12:45.49MonetYeah but the last time Labour got in this country went ot the dogs.
12:46.00OluapWorkeroh boy more politics
12:46.00Wormy_They are just not with it
12:46.06TechnobliteratorI feel bad for the working class and fear for the NHS, but let's be honest
12:46.09HachimanNgh
12:46.14TechnobliteratorThey'll manage our economy decently
12:46.34Technobliteratoroh, OluapWorker
12:46.36HachimanAll this election bollocks is beginning to irritate me
12:46.46Technobliteratorany chance of Fog War today?
12:46.47Comrade_VinnyWell, I wouldn't call them either the "Good Guys"...
12:46.52OluapWorkerYes
12:47.01Wormy_Even if Labour got in, don't expect anything to have gotten better
12:47.04HachimanLike honestly can we stop
12:47.08OluapWorkerI was actually going to ask if you could do it now
12:47.08Technobliteratoraw sweet, I'll be home in two hours
12:47.08Comrade_VinnyHo I know
12:47.13OluapWorkerblargh
12:47.21Comrade_VinnyThat "Labour" party has nothing of a Labour Party
12:47.23TechnobliteratorNot now, I have a lesson shortly, sorry
12:47.45TechnobliteratorHachiman, take solace in the fact that the discussions will be over in a day or two
12:47.54HachimanThat is too long
12:48.14TechnobliteratorGeneral Election, people whine about the winners, then they stfu until any major legislation changes
12:48.31MonetHachiman: Last week I was under pressure to get everything finished for my first year at Uni. WHen it was over, I was happy.
12:48.32Technobliteratorwhich let's be honest, I don't think there will be any we'll have to worry too much about
12:48.36MonetTHat was five days
12:48.42Wormy_Before the Scottish referendum I never looked into politics and talked about it, now I'm just sad enough to.
12:49.10TechnobliteratorI'm in a smart people college, everyone's obsessed with politics here
12:49.13Technobliterator:p
12:49.31Comrade_VinnyWith the SNP large posistion here, it is to bet a new referendum is incoming...
12:49.42HachimanI find talk of politics tiring as of late
12:49.59HachimanFrankly because it is all people talk about now
12:50.04TechnobliteratorThat's because there's been a General Electiob
12:50.10TechnobliteratorElection*
12:50.13Wormy_Because we are getting older.
12:50.38MonetTechno's right
12:50.39Comrade_VinnyHonestly, I'm way more happier to see people talk politics then other stuff...
12:50.44TechnobliteratorIf it was the World Cup, lots of us would talk about Footba-actually nvm no we wouldn't
12:50.46MonetGive it a few days and we'll be back to the old stuff
12:50.55Wormy_Comrade:  You are Scottish?
12:51.00Technobliteratornah, I wouldn't give it more than a day
12:51.17Comrade_VinnyQuebeckers, which is pretty much the same situation as Scotland ^^
12:51.23Wormy_Ah I see
12:51.24MonetTecnobliterator: There was a bit of talk over Brazil's defeat against Germany i nthe last World Cup
12:51.38HachimanI may as well just go on hiatus until people stfu about the Election then
12:51.48OluapWorkerDon't leave me pls
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12:51.50HachimanBecause I do not want to have to read through tons of stuff I am disinterested in
12:51.59MonetHachiman: Or jsut communicate to people off the IRC
12:51.59TechnobliteratorUh
12:52.24TechnobliteratorDon't you have to sit through stuff you don't want to read anyway?
12:52.35Comrade_VinnyI'm honestly happy to see people talk about politics (which in our time, is something almost gone from the vocabulary)
12:52.37HachimanYes but it is voluntary here]
12:52.48OluapWorkerYou're overreacting
12:52.55Technobliterator^
12:53.00Technobliteratorwaaaaaaay overreacting
12:53.03OluapWorkerI dislike all this political task as much as you but I'd not leave the IRC over it
12:53.07OluapWorkertalk even
12:53.49HachimanTo be fair I am a non-voter so naturally the topic of the elections being as prevalent as it is here would bother me
12:54.21HachimanCall me narrow-minded but honestly I cannot care less about which turd is the shiniest
12:54.39HachimanWhich is why I did not vote in the first place
12:55.05Wormy_Fair enough.
12:55.18Wormy_The outcome will always be shit...
12:55.23Technobliteratorwell, take solace in the fact that we aren't the US with Waka Flocka Flame running for president next year
12:55.28AdmiralPandaI care only insofar as the quality and consistency of said turd affects my life :P
12:55.40TechnobliteratorAnd no, I am not joking
12:55.41Liquid_InkIn my (and Panda's) country voting is mandatory.
12:55.42Wormy_Waka Flocka Flame?
12:55.49TechnobliteratorYup
12:55.57Wormy_Who is that?
12:55.59OluapWorkerThe fuck kind of name is that
12:56.09AdmiralPandaa stage name
12:56.11TechnobliteratorIt's his stage name
12:56.17HachimanHe is a rapper
12:56.26Wormy_Is he/she a Zebadist of Ooog?
12:56.32OluapWorkerLoron for president
12:56.40Technobliteratorhe is the lowest level of garbage
12:56.52Technobliteratoryes, honestly may as well be a Loron president
12:56.56AdmiralPandaFordanta for prime minister of Australia- everyone except the greeks and asians gets murdered for lack of duty
12:57.03TechnobliteratorI'd rather have Loron democracy over here
12:57.11TechnobliteratorIf you don't like the leader
12:57.11OluapWorkerElect Loron, he officially declares everyone as being "propa dum not as sik as me" and a nuclear war starts
12:57.12Wormy_I want Boris Johnson to become US President, because it would be funny if the US had a Brit running things.
12:57.20Comrade_VinnyTech: Still better than Ukraine where mthis guy is running for presidency: http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/181000/620x/92181.jpg
12:57.21TechnobliteratorYou just kill him
12:57.39Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27371673
12:57.46AdmiralPandaWaitwaitwait, Vader running for presidency is a BAD thing?
12:58.04Technobliteratordid any of you guys play WH40K Squad Command?
12:58.15AdmiralPandawhat year did that come out again?
12:58.20TechnobliteratorI have vague recollection of playing it
12:58.26OluapWorkerNever heard of
12:58.31Technobliteratorurm, I'm not sure, but it was a PSP game
12:58.37AdmiralPandaoh
12:58.39AdmiralPandaOH
12:58.46AdmiralPandathat one
12:58.50MonetNever had a PSP
12:59.16TechnobliteratorThere were some sweet games for it
12:59.22Technobliteratora lot of them SRPGs
12:59.22TechnobliteratorOH
12:59.34TechnobliteratorOluapWorker, Hachiman, have you guys heard of Nuzlocke?
12:59.39HachimanHeard of
12:59.40AdmiralPandayeah never played it, but from what I've heard it didn't really deserve the license
12:59.42OluapWorkerYes
12:59.47AdmiralPandanot that that's a surprise to anyone ever
12:59.53TechnobliteratorMy friend is doing two Nuzlocke runs
13:00.18OluapWorkerMe and Hachi have been playing Monster Hunter on a PSP emulator
13:00.38Technobliteratorit looks fun, if you are good at Pokemon, that is
13:01.22Technobliteratorthere are some super cool runs I have seen bits of
13:01.32Technobliteratorand web comics about Nuzlocke runs
13:01.56AdmiralPandait's rarely fun
13:02.19Comrade_VinnySo guys, the other day a "teacher" of politics told us: "The USA never outhrown a democritcally elected gouvernment!" My answer: "One word sir: Chile"
13:02.28Comrade_VinnyHis face was priceless...
13:02.39Technobliteratorok lesson then hometime
13:02.40Technobliteratorso bbl
13:02.43AdmiralPandathe only kind of people who "enjoy" nuzlocke challenges are the same kind of people who consider themselves hardcore, it's a torture session
13:02.43HachimanList of Things That Never Happened #2311
13:03.37Comrade_VinnyIt's sad, because it actually happened to me in CEGEP ^^
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14:23.34TekDroidHello
15:33.49Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/rreq2Mx
15:34.05Technobliteratoroh, wb oluap
15:34.19TechnobliteratorI can do fog war stuff shortly
15:34.58OluapWorkerhurry the fug up pls
15:38.42Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/eNiSXyd
15:42.34Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/SKoRide
15:49.22Wormy_The Glass Delusion http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32625632
16:39.17OluapWorkerHachiman Technobliterator: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1431103092523.jpg
16:40.31Technobliteratorahahahahahaha
16:41.53Hachimanolol
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16:44.18Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11070786_10153837195810476_3849608014283201733_n.png?oh=a81b7e039766073d8e06e58622fdfb18&oe=5609C5CD
16:44.19HachimanHai Imp
16:45.52OluapWorkerimpu
16:45.54OluapWorkerwrite fug war
16:47.44ImpyDroidOluapWorker: In a second
16:48.26ImpyDroidMonet: Just curious, did the news of the twerking underage bees from Russia reach the UK?
16:50.05ImpyDroidSame question to Wormy_
16:50.12OluapWorker>twerking underage bees
16:50.15OluapWorkeryou fucking what now
16:51.42ImpyDroidBees as in girls dressed as bees
16:51.57ImpyDroidIt caused a big shitstorm over here
16:52.06Wormy_nope
16:52.15MonetI haven't heard anything
16:52.36ImpyDroidWormy_ Monet: https://youtu.be/IQbDmCKGtuU In that case: THIS was apparently part of a fucking school play
16:52.45MonetThough if its related I recall a group of young peopel ended up offending a WWII comemmoration ceremony by twerking
16:53.02Monetrecently
16:53.07ImpyDroidI blame Miley Cirus
16:53.09ImpyDroid*Cyrus
16:53.56OluapWorkerBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
16:54.33ImpyDroidThe bear is supposed to be Winnie the Pooh BTW
16:55.03Wormy_I don't even *want* to watch, I can imagine it would be an offense to my personal space.
16:55.32Wormy_Ngh it loaded anyway WTF
16:56.55Wormy_Those bees sounded horrible
16:57.17Wormy_Umm, could someone help with a silly crisis on my desktop
16:57.41Wormy_When I add one thing to my recycle bin, I find loads of files and folders added also that i never chose to
16:58.01Wormy_I am now scared I just wiped out a load of of useful files
16:58.26Wormy_I cleared it out, added one folder, then clicked again and there are dozens of things
17:02.18ImpyDroidMonet: Speaking of WW2, I saw an interesting program about the battle for Germany a few days ago
17:02.37ImpyDroidIt's biased of course but still
17:03.08MonetLol. But go on
17:03.21Wormy_ImpyDroid;  I wish there was more artwork for the Age of Terra and Dark Age of Technology in Warhammer 40K
17:04.30MonetIt would be interesting to see but these are lost ages
17:04.53ImpyDroidBasically, it discusses the rape of German women by our soldiers in 1945: this being a Russian program though, its hosts argue whether this was truly systematised or simply overblown due to the Red Scare
17:05.00MonetI think the lack of artwork is jsutifiable in a meta-sense
17:05.03ImpyDroidFrankly this is a valid question
17:05.11Wormy_I'm surprised fans haven't tried though
17:05.48MonetImpyDroid: Could the same be asked of Nanking?
17:06.09Wormy_I wonder at which point gothic architecture of everything took over, I guess the Age of Strife
17:06.34ImpyDroid...True
17:06.50MonetMost of the actual Nazi party were in the SS, Wermacht, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine were normal germans on a payroll.
17:06.59MonetSS.*
17:07.28MonetWell, there might ave been some of them who were Nazis, particularly higher up in the chain of command
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17:07.56OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Mac.27s_Nightmare spooky demon time
17:08.59MonetIn Orwell's 1984 the city of Londo nis in fact populated by two kinds of people: Party members and the "Proles", the latter being citizens too indifferent or uneducated to be largely ignored by IngSoc propaganda.
17:09.21MonetProles didn't undergo rituals like 2 minutes hate.
17:10.12ImperiosThe basic idea proposed by the program is that the whole rape ordeal, though it might have happened indeed, was overblown first by Goebbels and later on by the Red Scare
17:10.29MonetNor were they forced to wear the drab uniforms common amongst the Party
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17:14.54MonetActually it is kind of interesting that in Orwell's world, the culture with the most freedoms were the lowest classes.
17:15.47MonetProles were permitted to gather in pubs, drink something other than shit-tasting alcohol and dress as peopel would have before the rise of IngSoc
17:16.37HachimanDamn that nightmare was cold
17:16.45HachimanI like it
17:18.12OluapWorkerFucking titanpad argh
17:24.41OluapWorkerTitanpad is being the worst today holy crap
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17:25.47dino82hellowz
17:25.54XhoHi
17:25.55OluapWorkerdino
17:25.56OluapWorkerand spu
17:27.31dino82:D
17:28.25OluapWorkerXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AMadiiraxaven_Kychtdar I made this 2 days ago but you were ded
17:28.58Xhomuch ded
17:29.25ImperiosDid TitanPAd fuck up with you as well?
17:29.26TechnobliteratorTitanPad is almost unusable atm
17:29.46OluapWorkerYeah this is the worst it has ever been
17:29.56Xho"However, she is not a fighter and typically stays out of trouble, for she is fragile and her armor is practically useless for combat."                Vultusk - we like the fragile ones
17:30.24Technobliteratorshall we leave this rp til later?
17:30.39OluapWorkerI'd rather try and get it done now
17:31.25ImperiosOluapWorker Technobliterator: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZdfHq9lFtjECpdmbbp7ikrbx5nqlmMKGhrcrk1go5FA/edit?usp=sharing I suggest we move on to Google
17:31.40OluapWorkerblah
17:31.45TechnobliteratorI'd rather not : |
17:31.47OluapWorkerWe may as well
17:32.05TechnobliteratorI'm not even signed into my own gmail
17:32.14Xho"Just do me until I can't stand anymore."                        >Vargash                 Madiiraxaven - 2much
17:32.28Technobliteratorwhich I don't reveal to people
17:32.31Technobliterator:       |
17:32.39ImperiosThen do so
17:32.44ImperiosIt's not like we are going to date you
17:32.50OluapWorkerLike we give a shit hur
17:33.26OluapWorkerIf you're so afraid we can do ours on Titanpad while me and Imp do our own thing
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17:33.55Technobliteratorhoooh boy, I have so many emails
17:34.36Technobliteratoroh, titanpad is up
17:35.59TechnobliteratorI can use my gmail for docs if it goes down too much, I guess...
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17:37.56Hachimanhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Albion_Knecht_MkII_Medieval_Sword_6_(6092593222).jpg Now this is a good looking blade
17:39.05HachimanLooks much more comfortable to wield than a katana and from what I hear of people who have expertise with the Albion knecht it has a bit more force behind its swing and can withstand more damage
17:49.09XhoIt's cool
17:49.13XhoBut it's not Soul Edge
17:49.44Jepardihttp://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ap0XrdD_460s.jpg
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18:01.42OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#The_Tale_of_a_Loron_who_was_Rogue and a second section
18:01.50Technobliteratorefficiency
18:04.50XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11137088_10206526992594463_4079732810821509444_n.jpg?oh=236bca6bc9aa351ba35d0bb4a1d57bf0&oe=55C0083C
18:05.30OluapWorkerolol
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18:16.08HachimanDumbternet
18:17.20OluapWorkerur dum
18:17.24OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#The_Tale_of_a_Loron_who_was_Rogue c
18:17.42Hachimansaw dis
18:18.10HachimanVery good stuff, Loron stuff always makes me feel pumped hur
18:21.50OluapWorkerWe're getting close to the end of part 2
18:21.53OluapWorkerat last
18:26.57ImperiosAye just let me do my shit
18:27.08OluapWorkerstep up senpai
18:33.48ImperiosHachiman: Yep, it was meant to break armour, like most late European blades
18:33.56ImperiosAt least before the advent of gunpowder weaponry
18:34.02TechnobliteratorThat may be the last time Gratz'kaoz is ever used
18:34.04Technobliterator:'(
18:34.11ImperiosThe reason katanas are more light is because they were not intended to cut through plate
18:34.14OluapWorkertime to move on dumba
18:38.31ImperiosHachiman: https://www.google.ru/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAQQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRoNPwGe.jpg&ei=nwJNVcfaBcTiywPP34GQAQ&bvm=bv.92885102,d.bGQ&psig=AFQjCNE5koFatnuxto3Zm0IOWhrMWSryJQ&ust=1431196661300438
18:39.33HachimanOh wow hur
18:39.35HachimanAlso
18:39.50HachimanThe whole "forty cakes" meme thing with Lex Luthor has been confirmed canon
18:40.54OluapWorkerforty keks
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18:53.36OluapWorkerDamnit
19:00.13MonetWormy_: I'm on the STO mission "COld Storage
19:00.30Wormy_cool
19:00.42Wormy_I like the Breen missions
19:00.44MonetThe planet is seeing a skirmish between Breen and Jem'Hadar forces and my tactical officers plan?
19:00.47MonetBlow them all up
19:01.08MonetXD
19:01.09Wormy_A most effective one
19:01.31MonetI'm playing my federation captain
19:02.16TekDroidI feel like playing STO now.
19:03.02Wormy_I'll log on after Eastenders
19:37.30Xhohm
19:37.34Xhoded irc is ded
19:38.41OluapWorkeru go work on anything
19:39.31dino82:d
19:40.46XhoOluapPlayer: You know you updated the Mini Shiarchon minipic right
19:41.08OluapWorkerYes
19:41.09XhoThe picture you used was also outdated                                    toptrolls
19:41.49OluapWorkerIt's the most recent Shiarchon picture in the wiki
19:41.59XhoJesus really
19:42.23XhoWell I know what to do now
19:45.55Wormy_Monet:  Going on STO now
19:48.05Wormy_big patch
19:52.22MonetIt was
19:52.47XhoFor some reason this Shiarchon is wearing a hannya mask
19:53.58MonetI feel certain that at least a good chunk of these patches is removing and replacing old files.
19:54.13Wormy_Captain Kidd's 'treasure' found in Madagascar  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-32621444
19:54.19Wormy_Yeah
19:54.33Wormy_The game;s filesize doesn't change much if at all
19:58.35OluapWorker~kick Imperios
19:58.36infobotACTION kicks Imperios
19:58.40Wormy_<PROTECTED>
19:58.43ImperiosSorry my sister described me
19:59.08HachimanDistracted you mean
20:01.24ImperiosYa
20:01.38OluapWorkerThrow her off the window and git bak on the rp
20:01.40ImperiosShe asked me to explain WW2 to her
20:01.42OluapWorkerI only have an hour left
20:01.44ImperiosI showed her Hitler rants
20:18.56Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Radeon/Dei%27Ar_Theocracy/Military My fucking god this language
20:19.28Imperios"His uncaring about his own life is possibly a proof that he is energy being."
20:19.35MonetWat
20:20.26OluapWorkerI AM ENERGY BEING DUE TO MY OWN SELF-LOATHING
20:21.08ImperiosOkay it makes sense in context but the language reeks of Heavy
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20:23.55OluapWorker“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!” - Usual reaction on Radeon attack."
20:24.04OluapWorkerArtharon - dats wat she said when i came in
20:24.58HachimanImperios / ImpyDroid OluapPlayer Monet: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/11161724_841688789220035_1282813781486683917_o.jpg Kil'Jaeden Smith
20:25.06HachimanOluapWorker even
20:25.25ImperiosThe master of the Legion in Black
20:25.37HachimanThe Prince of Gruul's Lair
20:25.44OluapWorkerHow Can Azeroth Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real
20:26.37ImperiosYou're aware of Gruul
20:26.40ImperiosYou surprise me
20:26.57HachimanNot really, I read the Facebook comments hur
20:27.01Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b9/ShiarchonGeneric2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150508202626 new generic Shiarchon
20:27.17OluapWorkerThat face tho
20:27.52HachimanLonginus - ey shiarchon       y da long face
20:28.28XhoShiarchon - rip ur fukin piercings out           gold cunt
20:29.12HachimanLonginus       Bearer of the Sacred Apadravya
20:29.35XhoAnian - shiny
20:29.41HachimanAnd the Solar Ampallang
20:29.42OluapWorkerApadravya
20:29.43OluapWorkerwat dat
20:29.54XhoPiercing on the tip of one's hoo-ha
20:30.01OluapWorkerEw
20:30.25XhoAmpallang is one *through* the tip
20:30.42HachimanSpecifically a piercing that pierces through the glans vertically
20:30.45HachimanApadravya that is
20:31.20OluapWorkerLiterally killing yourself
20:31.39HachimanApparently it makes sex more pleasurable according to women
20:31.45OluapWorkerfuck dat
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20:32.35OluapWorkerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/676/005/b16.png
20:32.55Hachimanolol
20:33.28dromrawr
20:34.24XhoThe last one is like "Mortium watches Hachi at night"
20:34.55OluapWorkerMortium - you call that a boner
20:35.55Xhobut
20:36.11Xhodat cartilage and tendons
20:36.23HachimanWell
20:36.30HachimanSome animals have a bone in their penis
20:36.36HachimanI think most do actually
20:36.37OluapWorkerMortium - >he doesn't have a bone boner
20:36.43dromkek
20:37.27dromToday, Oluap the militia commander got in a "fight". http://i.imgur.com/xG91704.png
20:38.33OluapWorkerThe clay! THE CLAY!
20:40.04dromA leatherworker migrant got in a fey mood last day, he made this: http://i.imgur.com/DifQub5.png
20:40.31OluapWorkerThat's a fancy shoe alright
20:40.35dromwho the fucks makes an artifact shoe
20:40.52OluapWorkerDwarves
20:41.08dromI'll be selling this to the next elven caravan.
20:41.22OluapWorkerI get reminded of one of those popular LPs where a dwarf made an engraving of an engraving of cheese
20:41.39OluapWorkerand I didn't misspell there. She made an engraving OF an engraving
20:42.57dromThe image depictes an engraver engraving an engraving of an engraving of cheese.
20:43.14dromhttp://i.imgur.com/6j2vPer.png
20:43.16dromNot mine
20:44.32OluapWorker"It's a door guys, I swear"
20:46.31dromYou are a very popular man in my fort, Oluap. 4 of the 5 statues I ordered depictes you and how Hachi appointed you as their militia commander.
20:47.12OluapWorkerkek
20:47.58dromhttp://i.imgur.com/EfnofHs.png
20:49.07dromThis one is definitely going to be placed in the dining room
20:49.11OluapWorkerolol
20:50.39HachimanOh wow hur
20:52.18ImperiosHachiman OluapWorker Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#A_Dormant_Demon A-and Telfinne is back!
20:52.31OluapWorkersuks dik 10/10
20:54.31Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVDRWddH3YE Listen to this during the battle
20:56.31OluapWorkerLupercal - mad bitch go ride a mantis man               Telfinne - not in this canon
20:57.46HachimanVery nice chapter
20:58.44HachimanTelfinne's childish mentality this time around definitely contrasts with her otherwise mature exterior enough to make her seem less retarded and far more unnerving
20:59.11OluapWorkerMature exterior
20:59.13OluapWorkerWhere hur
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21:05.40Knight_AlienHello
21:08.21ImperiosYes I was supposed to make Telfinne more interesting here
21:10.34ImperiosI am going to patray her struggling with her own madness
21:15.00Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7vuGj_Y9Lg *evil plotting intensifies*
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21:15.27dromfor fucks sake http://i.imgur.com/jV2Ek7s.png
21:15.51dromMy carpenters crafted +100 cabinets for no reason.
21:16.28dromAND 86 TABLES
21:16.35dromfsss
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21:23.03dromThe worst part is: I cannot sell them
21:23.52Wormy_Installing From Dust.
21:24.12Wormy_Then I can play as GAWD
21:25.50dinoman9877From Dust is good game. :3
21:30.18Wormy_I've wanted to play it for a long time, but was put off due to people giving me negative experiences on it.  Then I saw it cheap on steam and bought it, where its sat.
21:34.47dromThey are constantly catching hamsters in the seed storage. But they always manage to gnaw out of the animal traps.
21:39.33XhoImperios: "Telfinne - CUPCAKES CONSUME YOU "                Should've been Santorakh's servant
21:42.47dromThis fortress would be a lot more interesting with your names in as nicknames. http://i.imgur.com/MWf0WX7.png
21:45.17dromIf you want me to add your nick into the game, just pick a dwarf's name (first name) and optionally the dwarf's current profession. I'll then deliever you content.
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22:11.08dromWormy_: http://imgur.com/LjJl7Eb
22:11.27Wormy_lol seen it
22:12.07dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/eCkb4mq.jpg
22:12.19Xhodur
22:21.27AeoWormy_ Can I add Colors out of Space to the fiction universe? (I know fan-fiction empires were banned a while back, but Colors are public domain and the context in which they'd exist in the SWFU is very different than in the original story.)
22:22.07AeoAnd I don't mean something similar. I will call them CooS. They will be precisely like CooS.
22:22.21HachimanThen no
22:22.27HachimanWell
22:22.55HachimanBy technicality it would not be against the rules but it would be very heavily frowned upon
22:23.14Wormy_We have fanfiction empires (they are not banned), but they must become SporeWikified, explained in a way that fits the fiction universe.
22:23.32HachimanI despise the idea of fanfiction empires
22:23.36HachimanI feel we should prohibit them
22:24.04Wormy_I used to do it for cross-over purposes but won't be introducing anymore.
22:24.07AeoThe Colour Out of Space is in the public domain. I argue that makes it inherently different.
22:24.45Wormy_We can't tell you not to, just that if may not be popular and you may have users wanting it to be changed a little.
22:24.50MonetIf it's public domain than there's no real issue.
22:24.57OluapCollegeIt's still not an original idea, which's the main reason people may not enjoy it
22:25.05HachimanExcept that you will be called out for being unoriginal
22:25.07HachimanAnd lazy
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22:25.17Wormy_Hi
22:25.23MonetHachiman: I mean legally.
22:25.25The_RandomnessHello
22:25.36HachimanLegally it is fine, ethnically it is fucking stupid
22:25.45HachimanEthically rather
22:26.16AeoAdding them to the fiction universe will mean inherently taking a new angle on them. How humans on a farm in the 1900s reacted to them would be completely different to how spacefaring peoples would react to them.
22:26.19TechnobliteratorWhy prohibt them?
22:26.20Technobliteratorhi Random
22:26.29HachimanBecause unoriginal
22:26.33Wormy_Plus you might have me and Ghelae behind your back with our alien and/or essence classifications
22:26.35dromMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGqI_AcSNHw
22:26.37HachimanUnoriginal, not our property, etc
22:27.02TechnobliteratorThat doesn't mean we should ban them
22:27.08Monetdrom: One of my friend linked me a similar clip on Facebook
22:27.13Technobliteratorwhat some people decide to do with their fiction is up to them
22:27.15AeoIt is our property. That is what Public Domain means.
22:27.26Wormy_I'm not going to say no, you/we are very unlikely to get in trouble for fanfic.
22:27.27HachimanI do not see the CooS being public domain
22:27.28HachimanGive me a source
22:27.57dromPublic domain or not, the idea is still isn't your's.
22:28.17OluapCollegeAll of Lovecraft's work is public domain
22:28.27HachimanHuh
22:28.30HachimanWell that sucks
22:28.51AeoHe wrote it decades ago and died before he could renew it.
22:29.03OluapCollegeIt's the reason people get away with messing about with the Mythos as they please. It's public property now
22:29.04TechnobliteratorWhether the idea is the writer's or not does not mean we should ban them
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22:29.17TechnobliteratorIf you do not like unoriginal fiction, do not interact with it
22:29.31HachimanBut
22:29.44AeoThe reason I tend against altering it is because I couldn't do better.I mean, why fix what ain't broke?
22:29.55HachimanThis place makes me sick sometimes
22:31.10TechnobliteratorWhy?
22:31.22AeoBunny: Would it make you feel better if they were free-to-use like humanity or the Milky Way?
22:31.32HachimanNo it would not
22:31.37HachimanI would rather they not be used at all
22:31.59HachimanAt least have the decency to make something "inspired" by them rather than just outright rip them off
22:32.40TechnobliteratorI do not see why we sohuld prohibit these fictions because of it, though
22:32.47TechnobliteratorIf you do not like them, you can just ignore them
22:32.54dromMonet: The influence of fox, dog and cat pictures I find on internet has influenced me to give the Nomatari similar behaviours as them.
22:33.06Technobliteratoras long as people don't break the rules, they're allowed to be creative - even if they're being uncreative
22:33.11TechnobliteratorI see no reason to add more bureaucracy
22:33.24HachimanIt is almost like you have forgotten about quality control
22:33.33HachimanWhich is why we deny anymore Essences or god-tier fiction
22:33.54AeoHow is writing the colors out of space and admitting it less honest than writing them but pretending not to?
22:34.30TechnobliteratorThere's a difference between Essences/god-tiers and unoriginal fiction
22:34.31HachimanAeo: Except most people tend to state what influenced them to create certain fictions or creatures here
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22:34.45OluapCollege_Balls
22:34.50TechnobliteratorThe former affects the entire universe and grants its creator a certain level of power
22:34.54TechnobliteratorThe latter just sucks
22:34.59HachimanAlright so since it is in the public domain
22:35.02HachimanI am going to introduce God
22:35.07HachimanAs in, the Abrahamic God
22:35.16MonetIsn't that Kamik'Shi?
22:35.20OluapCollege_Don't be petty
22:35.21HachimanNo, God
22:35.48dromMonet Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/HykRMD9.gif
22:36.24Wormy_This is not a deep or philosophical argument.  Aeo clearly can legally create CooS, plus there are no rules about it in the fiction universe.  But it maybe unpopular.  Just keep in mind some users here are Lovecraft fans, so be considerate of them please, if they don't want to see this sort of thing in the fic universe.
22:36.54Wormy_Then listen to their reasons and be open to their opinion
22:37.09HachimanAlright so from now on God is canon in the Fictionverse
22:37.13HachimanNo rules against it
22:37.24OluapCollege_Stop it
22:37.37Wormy_The best ethical move I can see, is creating an inspired fiction.  But otherwise do what you want Aeo at the end of the day.
22:37.52The_RandomnessGoodness, what's your problem today Hachi?
22:38.15AeoI actually just thought of a way I might make something similar-but-different. Also, Hachi, Yaweh would violate other rules. He would be more powerful than the Xhodocto. He'd pretty much have to be tier -74
22:38.23Wormy_To clarify, I'm actually speaking for Hachi's side in the sense
22:38.36HachimanSo much for the Fictionverse part of this wiki promoting "creativity" when we can just rip shit straight out of other stuff and get away with it because public domain
22:39.05TechnobliteratorIf you wish to create a rule about this, feel free to create a thread and see if you will get much support
22:39.28TechnobliteratorBut I do not feel like this is anything other than needless bureaucracy when you can simply choose not to interact with a fiction you dislike
22:40.05TechnobliteratorWe never told Zilla we would ban him from the fiction universe when his fiction was unoriginal
22:40.12HachimanI wish we did
22:40.24TechnobliteratorWe just chose to mostly ignore it
22:40.35OluapCollege_Seriously dude cut it out with that attitude
22:40.44Technobliterator(admittedly we didn't handle that situation well at all)
22:41.32Wormy_drom:  I love foxes.  Fuck Fox hunters
22:41.45dromRabid foxes though :(
22:41.57AeoWormy: But sheps. What about sheps?
22:42.08HachimanFine, do whatever you want Aeo
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22:43.17Wormy_Fox hunting here was a blood sport, with foxes even breeded for the kill.  Plus Fox Hunters often tresspass on land
22:44.08Wormy_*bred
22:44.45dromThey had reasons to hunt foxes as well.
22:44.52dromSpecially farmers.
22:45.41dromThey hunt foxes due to their tendancy to target their small livestock (piglets, chickens, doves, hens, etc.) as prey.
22:45.49Wormy_So they argued, but I doubt it had any economic benefit
22:46.40Wormy_But it doesn't justify the extremely cruel methods athey used.  The foxes don't get a chance and were sometimes placed there
22:47.01Wormy_Literally tearing the fox apart with dogs
22:47.35Wormy_And that bit about tresspassing on land, I know people who live in the country who get this happening to them even now
22:52.03Wormy_I don't agree with the badger cull either
22:52.14dromIt is a product of over-zealous protection and contracy to belief that killing a fox would prevent further attacks. Which is slightly true since foxes in natural habit live as alone. From my knowledge, they don't either mark their territory.
22:54.34Wormy_As for protecting livestock, if the fox is getting through barriers and deterrents, and the farmer is left with no choice, then I'm indifferent to the idea of humanely putting the fox down.  But its the blood sport I hate.
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22:55.20OluapCollegeDickings
22:55.35dromI don't know about badgers anyway. We used to have them in the forest. But they'd often come out and tip over our garbage bins and poses as a major household damage.
22:56.15dromThey are the most popular as roadkills as well.
22:56.18Wormy_Basically involves chasing the fox for miles with dogs until it can move no more, then it gets torn to pieces.  They are supposed to shoot it first but often don't, and sometimes resort to "lamping" the animal.  There's countless footage of it.
22:57.16dromThese badgers are like racoons, but holds no limits in stupidity.
22:57.38Wormy_The badgers are getting culled here because of the fear that they can be a vector for bovine TB.  Only that the evidence has been found to be faulty, and its paid by tax payer's money.  My county didn't go through with it.
22:59.09Wormy_The trial was also found to be ineffective
22:59.34dromWormy_: Speaking of hunting footage, these are popular here in Sweden. Just attach a GoPro to the rifle and simply go out on hunting, make a kill and record it all, publish it on YouTube.
23:01.38dromOf course I am disgusted of this, it is however none of my business.
23:01.39Wormy_I've studied countryside management, now there are occasions when say, the deer population gets over-capacity and someone has to cull the old and sick deer.  I'm not so against that kind because there are no predators here.
23:02.01Wormy_*no predators for deer
23:02.41Wormy_Hunting for food, I'm indifferent to that.  But I can't stand blood sport.
23:03.29dromWe do have this system as well in Sweden. Widely the Southren Sweden where there almost no wolves nor any predators at all, just nasty weasels and ravens.
23:04.02Wormy_Speaking of which, there is one animal I really don't like:  mink
23:04.08dromThe only most natural predator that kills everything, is the age.
23:04.26Wormy_My lecturer on the countryside course said children should be taught to kill them on site
23:04.43The_RandomnessWhy's that?
23:05.57Wormy_Mink were released by activists (and escaped) from breeding centres and fur production.  They have spread across the country sending locals species to near-extinction
23:06.01The_RandomnessAh
23:06.57Wormy_So I'm not a fanatic if I gave that impression earlier,
23:07.08The_RandomnessYou didn't
23:07.08dromThis is why I strongly dislike animal rights groups. I see them as over-zealous animal SJW.
23:07.50OluapCollegeWhat's mink again?
23:07.56Wormy_Yeah, it was their lack of actual understanding about nature that helped unleash this menace
23:08.00dromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mink
23:08.01OluapCollegeAt first I thought you were misspelling milk but that's not an animal
23:08.20Wormy_Like a big weasel
23:08.20dromA rat/rodent-like mammal.
23:08.32OluapCollegeOh
23:09.04Wormy_Its the same with the American Grey Squirrel, its pretty much forced our native red squirrels to a few areas
23:09.15HachimanIt looks kind of cute
23:09.31Wormy_There is a movement to cull grey squirrels and use their meat
23:10.01Wormy_Yeah squirrels look cute but they can turn pretty vicious, I wouldn't get too close.
23:10.43dromThe province I live in is a natural habit for otters.
23:11.00MonetThere used to be minks native to the UK
23:11.22MonetBut fur producers imported the bigger american minks for mass production, and those are the species the activists let out
23:15.46dromBut they are in very very low numbers due to polychlorinated biphenyl contamination and the former mink species.
23:15.56dromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polychlorinated_biphenyl
23:18.07dromI'll call it, we are mad at our old selves, in few tens of years, our offsprings will be mad at us for doing X that caused the Y problem that they have to live with.
23:19.13Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11159465_347889748735010_1502125798940867907_n.png?oh=f73407b2d15d9b8445e4b96b5a4d18ec&oe=55DABD48
23:19.46OluapCollegeolol
23:20.10Wormy_This stuff was bad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT
23:21.07MonetOoh boy
23:21.15The_Randomnessyeah
23:21.23dromAye
23:22.34dromWe also grow these "mutant" strawberries in our kitchen garden. Should I be concerned?
23:22.41The_Randomnessno
23:25.07MonetThey might feel a little wierd on your tongue, but if they taste the same and bear the same nutritional content then no, you cohuldn't be too concerned
23:26.34dromWormy_: Caesium-137
23:26.51drom1986 never forget
23:27.25Wormy_My garden has lots of tiny strawberries, I think they are alpine.
23:27.34OluapCollegebrb
23:27.44dromwoodland strawberries
23:27.52dromsmultron as how we call them
23:27.55The_Randomnessbrb dinner
23:28.10Wormy_Probably yes
23:28.24Wormy_http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nlWLKOtzJ8U/TEBkJJ2Gz8I/AAAAAAAAAgU/Dgy5zBLBMz4/s1600/IMG_3186.JPG
23:28.28Wormy_they look like this
23:28.50Wormy_http://www.ptbolocalfoods.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/wild-small.jpg
23:29.19dromstill smultron to me
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23:29.33OluapCollegerite back
23:30.09dromIf anyone didn't understood the "1986 never forget": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster
23:31.07Wormy_Of course I know of that
23:31.27Wormy_Yeah even here some farms have to be tested every few years
23:32.31Wormy_We are lucky it didn't blow up a second time
23:32.41dromThe Cs-137 it released had serious impact on the nature in central and northern Sweden. Berries and mushrooms became inedible for a long period of time, animals were born with small defects animal population reduced in size as many failed to reproduce due to mutations and genetic defecatity.
23:35.54dromReading the physical and chemical in-depth analysis of the reactons and the aftermath of reactor meltdowns is bone-chilling.
23:36.49dromSpecially corium lava
23:40.57Wormy_The Elephant's foot, yes
23:41.15dromElephant toothpaste
23:41.18Wormy_I think its still hot and sinking through the earth
23:41.30Wormy_*sainking through the floor
23:43.36dromMelting it's way through the concrete
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23:45.06Wormy_Its like an eldritch phenomenon I guess
23:46.29dromEverything related to meltdowns is eldritch..
23:47.37Wormy_With Chernobyl it scares me that when they tried to use remote controlled robots, the radiation was interfereing with the electronics, making them glitch and go off forever
23:48.03Wormy_One robot literally drive itself off the building
23:48.08Wormy_*drove
23:48.20OluapCollegeRobot - FUCK THIS
23:48.35Hachimanolol
23:48.38HachimanHai Panda
23:48.40dromradioactivity son
23:49.15HachimanChernobyl - literally kill yourself
23:49.17OluapCollege"radiation levels are so high that the workers responsible for rebuilding the sarcophagus are only allowed to work five hours a day for one month before taking 15 days of rest. Ukrainian officials estimate the area will not be safe for human life again for another 20,000 years."
23:49.19OluapCollegeYickes
23:50.09The_Randomnessback
23:50.12HachimanA lot of wilderness would have probably reclaimed the land by then
23:51.14OluapCollegeIt already did
23:51.25MonetMost of the present damage is form the plant life.
23:51.42MonetOr the fallout
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23:51.48OluapCollege"The area has largely reverted to forest, and has been overrun by wildlife because of a lack of competition with humans for space and resources."
23:51.51MonetChernobynl never actually epxloded iirc
23:51.57MonetChernobyl*
23:52.07dromWormy_: http://static.nautil.us/1931_15d185eaa7c954e77f5343d941e25fbd.jpg
23:52.27dinoman9877I arrive....full of boredom.
23:52.39AdmiralPandait didn't explode explode but it came pretty close
23:53.00MonetTrue, a meltdown is a step before an actual explosion
23:53.08dromThe reddish thing is probably just a light and long exposeure.
23:53.36Wormy_The potential was that if the corium hit the water than had pooled underneath, it would have caused a massive steam explosion comparable to 3 to 5 megatonnes.
23:53.49Wormy_*that
23:53.53OluapCollegeHomebrew atomic bomb
23:54.06The_RandomnessJust add water
23:55.35dinoman9877*Just add Uranium
23:55.53dromWhoooosh!
23:56.20Wormy_They had trains with over a 1000 cars ready to evacuate Minsk and Kiev
23:56.37Wormy_That stuff just looks yucky too
23:56.54Wormy_I can imagine getting ill just being near it
23:57.18Wormy_I just read 300 seconds was enough to kill within days
23:57.39dinoman9877And this is why we do not use nuclear power, people!
23:57.52The_Randomnesseh
23:58.02The_RandomnessNuclear power is honestly incredibly safe
23:58.09The_RandomnessThe people at Chernobyl were just complete idiots
23:58.19dromiirc reactor 4 is not nigh-impossible to dismantle due to the radioactivity
23:58.32drom10 000 R to recall
23:58.41OluapCollegeYOU KNOW NOT OF STRONG SOVIET RADIATION, LITTLE AMERICAN MAN
23:58.46The_Randomnesslol
23:58.47dinoman9877It's safe. It'll kill you within days if you're exposed to it, but it's safe.
23:59.18Monetdinoman9877: There are a metric buttload of regulations to keep it safe
23:59.25Wormy_drom:  Here is the bit with the robots glitching out https://youtu.be/dS3WvKKSpKI?t=58m18s
23:59.30The_RandomnessReactors these days are almost idiotproof
23:59.33OluapCollegeWhich's why you shouldn't be an idiot and expose yourself to it
23:59.34MonetDownside is it can tak ebetween 20-50 years to demolish a nuclear power plant.
23:59.40AdmiralPandaand that's precisely why properly constructed reactors are designed to prevent you from exposure. As we said, the people who built Chernobyl were idiots
23:59.46dinoman9877It's completely unstable and not monitoring it for just a second, like they did in Chernobyl, could be the diffeence between life and death, but it's completely safe.
23:59.58MonetAdmiralPanda: Glorious SOviet Engineering!

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