IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150507

00:00.43DrodoEmpiretest
00:00.48DrodoEmpireOh, yeah.
00:01.47MonetHello
00:03.04Wormy_hi
00:06.41MonetWormy_: Reinstalled Endless Space
00:06.50MonetCurrently in a war with the Cravers
00:07.30The_RandomnessAren't those the guys that you can't be allies with?
00:08.02MonetYep
00:08.17MonetAnnoyingly they're also the largest military power as far as I can tell
00:08.20Wormy_Custom faction or inbuilt one?
00:08.27The_Randomnessbuilt in
00:08.43Wormy_No, I mean what is Monet playing as.
00:08.50MonetSheridan
00:09.41The_RandomnessI always liked playing as the Sophons
00:13.12Wormy_I played as the Sowers
00:13.55Wormy_Though I may play as the Vaulters when I get the DLC
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00:14.56TekDroidI only played one gane but it was as the Sophons.
00:15.35MonetAlthough the UE remind me of the DI
00:15.50Wormy_The Vaulters are the link between Endless Space, Legend and Dungeon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_DFjrpWUM
00:15.56The_RandomnessUE?
00:16.05MonetUnited Empire
00:16.09The_Randomnessah
00:17.47MonetWormy_: About that vaulter video
00:18.20Wormy_Yeah?
00:18.28MonetWhile the ship designs don't match, I feel certain the SS Success and tthe LB Stephanie are human vessels based on their names.
00:19.15MonetAnd even if the SS Success doesn't resemble a United Empire deadnought, it's still got the blockiness of a human ship
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00:19.44Quark8Hwllo.
00:19.49Wormy_yeah
00:19.49Quark8*Hello
00:20.06Wormy_There must have been a precursor human civilisation
00:20.13MonetHello
00:20.33Wormy_Before the Vaulters, Pilgrims, Horatio, EU and Sheridyn
00:21.09MonetWell it's likely a few hundred years before Endless Space begins, maybe there was a design shift amongst the Human Empire?
00:22.34Wormy_indeed
00:24.04MonetAnd to be the economic power the background says it is, I'm not sure if the Empire is stagnant yet
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00:43.28TekDroidMonet: When I first played my first thought was how much they reminded me of DI
00:45.56Monethttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/cbWgkzwPQr8/maxresdefault.jpg Sheredyn take it further via gold plating
01:02.28Wormy_bye
01:04.03DrodoEmpiretest
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01:36.01The_Randomness~whalenuke DrodoEmpire
01:36.15infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around DrodoEmpire with his mind powers.
01:36.33DrodoEmpire3:
01:48.10TekDroidIt's 1935 in my Victoria 2 game. I'm feeling a bit of a rush. XD
01:48.25TekDroid*1934
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03:20.50TekDroidHello
03:24.05Aeohi
04:32.11TekDroidI only had 5GB left on my laptop's hard drive. XD
05:06.29TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/lCzUHu6.png So this is the world at the end of my Victoria 2 game on December 31st, 1936. Yugoslavia, Arabia and Malaysia are puppet states of Italy.
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11:37.39AdmiralPandahi all
11:40.59Monethello
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11:51.45Wormy_hi
11:52.01OluapWorkerHi
11:53.13MonetHello
12:01.27MonetWell, I've voted.
12:02.49Wormy_Going to soon
12:03.16Wormy_A little nervous, not sure exactly how I'm supposed to do it
12:04.04Wormy_I mean, I hope the polling card is simple and obvious because I can blank in front of documents
12:04.17MonetIt is don't worry
12:05.06MonetWhat you'll get is a list of electable parties with the MP's names on an A5 sheet.
12:06.17MonetThere were six parties on my sheet
12:10.21Wormy_And will it list their party too encase I mix the names up?
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12:11.37MonetYes
12:11.57MonetBoth the party name and the party logo next to the checkbox
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12:30.04HachiTopHello
12:31.03OluapWorker~cuddle HachiTop
12:31.03infobotACTION grabs HachiTop and cuddles until HachiTop begs for mercy
12:31.21HachiTop<3
12:31.30HachiTopI have been feeling really ill all day
12:31.40OluapWorkerThat sucks
12:32.17HachiTopSo now I cannot eat much if anything because my stomach decides it wants to fuck up today
12:33.43OluapWorkerDid you eat anything bad yesterday?
12:33.52HachiTopDo not think so
12:33.59HachiTopUnless you count cookies which I doubt
12:34.36Wormy_Maybe it was germs from France.
12:34.45HachiTopBloody frenchies
12:35.07OluapWorkerthe honvirus
12:35.15Wormy_lol
12:35.51HachiTopThe only other thing I had was a small McDonalds meal
12:36.11HachiTopCheeseburger and a few fries
12:36.32Wormy_All I imagine from such places is people spitting in the food as it cooks.
12:37.04MonetIt might have been the McDonalds. But it's a hypothesis
12:38.58OluapWorkerSeems like the most likely culprit
12:39.14OluapWorkerYou might be suffering from food poisoning
12:39.21HachiTopIf I suddenly appear to stop responding at random it's because I have fallen asleep
12:39.29HachiTopEugh you might be right
12:40.21OluapWorkerAll you can do is wait it out and take some medicine
12:40.23OluapWorkerdon't die pls
12:40.44HachiTopI wanna eat though
12:41.00HachiTopAlthough I know that if I do I am going to destroy my own anus
12:41.40OluapWorkerEating while your stomach is sick will only make it worse
12:42.45HachiTopI'm hungry ;-;
12:43.10OluapWorkerYou'll stay hungry
12:43.19OluapWorkerMost you can do is drink something I guess
12:45.45Wormy_If I get poisoning like that, I eat yop
12:45.54Wormy_a drinkable yongurt
12:46.18Wormy_*yogurt
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13:05.40AdmiralPandahi all
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13:39.57ImpyDroidHi
13:41.10ImpyDroidOluapWorker HachiTop Monet: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4878-WoW-Down-to-7-1-Million-Subscribers Looks like the old man is dying
13:41.57OluapWorker7 million is still a fucking truckload of people
13:42.10OluapWorkerIt'll take more than that to kill WoW
13:42.12OluapWorkerUnfortunately
13:42.16AdmiralPandaLoL has more players
13:42.19AdmiralPandaand has for several years
13:42.37AdmiralPandaHearthstone has more regular players than WoW does iirc
13:42.58AdmiralPandaWoW is most certainly dying, but it's just a slightly faster slow and painful death
13:44.42ImpyDroidIt has lived beyond the normal living cycle of a game and should go to rest
13:44.58AdmiralPandaThe other thing is it's user retention has dropped too
13:45.26AdmiralPandathe big jump in subscriptions for warlords that came from people boosting to 90 died out, so they didn't really get any new blood in
13:46.29OluapWorkerWell too bad, the plan is yearly expansions now
13:46.34OluapWorkerWoW won't die anytime soon
13:46.52AdmiralPandaoh it will, yearly expansions won't solve their problems
13:48.08ImpyDroidMy only hope is that they use Azshara before it dies, I waited for her since WotLK
13:48.16ImpyDroidBecause hot naga lady
13:48.42ImpyDroidOr they could use it in WC4
13:48.44ImpyDroid*her
13:49.22OluapWorkerThere are alternate realities where we got WC4 instead of WoW and I bet they fared better than we did
13:49.24AdmiralPandabasically, as with any multiplayer game, the players are content for the other players- the only people still playing reliably are the core raiders, but they aren't enjoying the new content being put out because it's designed for pugs
13:50.13AdmiralPandamore and more the core raiders, who are the people really keeping the game alive, are leaving the game, and nobody new who gets brought in and boosted stays in for long
13:50.52AdmiralPandathis being proved by Warlords of Draenor
13:50.57AdmiralPandayearly expansions will drag out its death, but they will neither save it nor sustain it
13:51.17OluapWorkerI wish they would just go back to the RTS genre and pretend all the crap that happened in WoW was a really shitty nightmare but that'll obviously never happened and instead we'll get 10 more expansions featuring Green Jesus killing all the baddies
13:51.30ImpyDroidFrankly MMOs are slowly dying anyway
13:51.44OluapWorkeru want game. here orc. fuk u
13:51.45ImpyDroidEven the new ones follow a different format
13:52.14AdmiralPandathe primary reason MMOs are dying is because they pretend to be WoW
13:52.20AdmiralPandathat and stupid developers
13:52.23ImpyDroidYa
13:53.22AdmiralPandathat said, MMOs are hideously expensive for the experience they provide, when most MMO players would prefer something like Warframe
13:53.56ImpyDroidI don't know what that is so elaborate on that
13:54.05AdmiralPandayou know Borderlands?
13:54.31ImpyDroidHeard of
13:54.38AdmiralPandathink that but with space ninjas
13:55.10ImpyDroidHuh
13:55.33AdmiralPandaexcept it's not open-world, it's instanced missions, but every so often missions called Tactical Alerts pop up that have different conditions, different maps and rare rewards
13:55.58ImpyDroidAs I said, the new MMOs I see follow a more session-based gameplay, missions and all
13:56.53AdmiralPandalike earlier today me and some friends were grinding for rare frame parts (warframes are basically your classes), then suddenly a TA popped up for an infestation outbreak, and we got to play a little mini-campaign involving a defence mission, followed by a spy mission then finally an exterminate mission
13:57.35AdmiralPandathey didn't even have to write any story because the story wrote itself, and yet it was in some ways more poignant than the sweeping narratives WoW tries to create
14:00.17AdmiralPandaespecially since the Syndicate we joined, the Red Veil, acts as a cleansing flame hoping to wipe the system clean of corruption so that it can start anew (syndicates are kinda like Alliance/Horde factions, just less formal)
14:01.29AdmiralPandafor casual players like me there's a lot of fun to be had in mindlessly slicing and dicing my way through hordes of minions foolish enough to get in the way of my sword, for the more hardcore players there's ridiculously difficult survival missions that just get harder and harder until it's physically impossible to fight on
14:04.05Wormy_Monet:  I voted
14:07.55dromwow, why do I've this open?
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14:08.51Quark8Hello.
14:09.03MonetImperios: Sorry was on KSP
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14:18.15MonetImpyDroid: WoW's gone back tp pre-WoD levels. Like Oluap said I don't see it dying anytime soon
14:18.37MonetBut as far as I know it's made more money for Blizzard than a Warcraft 4 ever could.
14:21.26OluapWorkerIt'll peak again when the next expansion comes out, then it'll lose subs again, and the cycle comes back to where it started
14:21.55OluapWorkerI'm pretty sure I remember them saying they had 6 expansion packs planned back when Mists of Pandaria came out
14:25.15ImpyDroidYes but the overall population is still steadily dwindling
14:26.52ImpyDroidMonet: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/eb/Ar-Klith_Map.png/revision/latest?cb=20150506190254 BTW take a look
14:27.37Technobliteratoreh
14:28.02TechnobliteratorI would just say that the MMO marketplace is changing
14:28.11Technobliteratormany more MMOs are F2P now, for instance
14:29.22OluapWorkerSo is WoW up to a point
14:30.55Technobliteratoryeah
14:31.48TechnobliteratorThere's a reason for that, Blizzard are declining in quality rapidly
14:32.02Technobliteratorand they've focused their RTS efforts on StarCraft thus no new Warcraft
14:32.08OluapWorkerIf I'm not mistaken WoW is free to play until level 20
14:32.45TechnobliteratorMhm
14:33.21TechnobliteratorFFXIV is the same, except with FFXIV a character can be a number of classes so you can just get every class to level 20 under the trial if you want
14:51.05ImpyDroidOluapWorker Wormy_ Monet: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5r4qoQ8FsV-NUZHdWZMZlZrX2s/edit?usp=docslist_api That thing appeared near my university yesterday
14:51.33Wormy_cool
14:51.38OluapWorkerBARBARIAN DESTROYER
14:52.24Wormy_On my first year in geology, on a trip, we watched a Naval practise a beachhead invasion
14:52.30Wormy_*of a
14:53.00Wormy_It was quite funny as they were approaching us
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15:19.25JepardiHi
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15:44.40Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/qzm6o88.jpg
15:45.16OluapWorkerMind blown
15:45.21OluapWorkerimp go write fug war grrr
15:46.42Imperioshttp://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2015/05/05/11/20150505114708098/preview_496e376463da1708d180ef95973e40e7.jpg So that's a new Russian tank model
15:48.11ImperiosTime to accidentally forget a few of these on Ukraine
15:48.26Imperios*in Ukraine
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15:50.38Monetlol
15:54.19Wormy_drom http://imgur.com/gallery/TF2xG
15:54.56dromHello
15:55.03Imperioshttps://2ch.hk/po/src/8822077/14309077311900.jpg huh
15:57.24OluapWorkerTechnobliterator HachiTop Imperios Wormy_away: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Da_Propa_Big_Planet_Crusha have new section
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16:01.22Technobliterator:o
16:01.35dromImperios: I wish were less emotional.
16:03.57Technobliteratorniiiiiiiice
16:04.09Technobliteratorcan't wait for planet crusha
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16:05.09dromHachTop: http://i.imgur.com/8qPR47e.jpg
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16:08.16ImperiosOluapWorker: I like how Arrtk manipulates Hagto'zhl
16:11.09dromImperios: http://i.imgur.com/BeOmVJ3.png
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16:20.46Cyrannianhai
16:21.21Technobliteratorhai cyr
16:21.27OluapWorker~push Cyrannian
16:21.27infobotACTION enlists Cyrannian to push Cyrannian over the edge of a very high cliff
16:21.57Cyrannian~squeeze OluapWorker
16:21.57infobotACTION squeezes the juice out of OluapWorker until there just ain't nothin left
16:24.03ImperiosMonet: https://youtu.be/O2P5n9m3O-s
16:24.46CyrannianWormy_away: Technobliterator: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/05/07/ireland-offers-its-condolences-to-uk-voters/
16:25.51MonetImperios: Nice bow moves
16:27.46MonetWell the good news is I'm technically finished for the year.
16:28.23MonetSo I'm largely free for summer stuff now
16:29.13ImperiosMonet: https://2ch.hk/po/src/8836850/14310130207350.webm
16:30.56MonetThat.
16:30.58MonetIs.
16:31.01MonetAmazing!
16:35.29Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d5/Ironsand_Klaxxa.png/revision/latest?cb=20150507163421 OluapWorker: Have some Sand Klaxxa
16:35.54OluapWorkerI like dat
16:36.01OluapWorkerI see they have some Sand Drake bits
16:45.45ImperiosAlso the shape of the sword they are wielding can give you some insight on what they typically produce for the Empire
16:48.50OluapWorkergrorious ar-klith curved swords
16:48.57OluapWorker*ar-krith
16:49.28OluapWorkerOne of the PCs over here for maintenance has Spore installed in it
16:50.10HachiTopNice model that, I like it
16:50.19TechnobliteratorCyrannian, I lol'd
16:50.56OluapWorkerHachiTop: chek fog war section
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16:53.35TekDroidHello
16:55.17HachiTopNice section that
16:55.51HachiTopI always feel sorry for the Norol hur
16:56.28OluapWorkerNorol had a hard life
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17:00.55GhelaeHello.
17:01.43MonetWhen he visited Cuba I was always curious as to the level of surprise Mr. Bruns shwoed when he discovered president Batista was no longer in power, asking hom er "did you know that?" - I discovered today that Batista had been out of office since 1959
17:01.56MonetHomer*
17:04.06Wormy_away"Security at 10 Downing Street was also beefed up this morning as many feared UKIP leader Nigel Farage would attempt to move in while everyone was distracted."
17:04.07Wormy_awayXD
17:07.15Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
17:08.57Wormy_lol
17:09.00TekDroidOh yeah, you guys have elections today?
17:09.03Wormy_Tis tradition
17:09.07Wormy_Yep
17:09.12Wormy_I voted for the first time4
17:09.35Wormy_My hand was trembling with so much excitement the polling card wasn't going in properly
17:09.57TekDroidI wish your politicians good luck to the best of the worst of them. :P
17:10.16Wormy_Of course, such euphoria is bound to be short lived when nothing changes
17:11.06MonetWormy_: It becomes routine pretty quickly
17:11.37Wormy_yep
17:11.37TekDroidIt was exciting when I first voted, had no idea which to pick
17:13.34Wormy_"This song sucks" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vvU-Ajwbok
17:14.02ImperiosCyrannian HachiTop: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5r4qoQ8FsV-NUZHdWZMZlZrX2s/view?usp=sharing This thing appeared next to my uni yesterday
17:14.49Cyrannianooh
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17:23.07Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRl2oSeEpMg Ohgodwhat
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17:29.42Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/pvTROZ9
17:30.33Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/wEuPzYl.jpg
17:31.43MonetWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4g0a7LaUUI seem familiar?
17:32.31Wormy_I love Spitting Image
17:33.14HachiTopImperios: Nice battleship
17:33.25MonetI swear this iamge of Parlaiment is as accurate today as it was in 1990
17:33.49HachiTopAlso I cannot give a toss about the elections
17:34.11HachiTopI do not vote because why support a bunch of polished and/or unpolished turds
17:34.42MonetWormy_: I've said before the House of Commons resembles a football match on numerous occasions
17:35.41Wormy_Monet:  I agree, like in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bhpXhxP-WU
17:35.49ImperiosMonet HachiTop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l70eAYt9pDY
17:36.41MonetWormy_: The next Speaker of the House should have a background as a teacher.
17:36.54Wormy_I agree
17:37.22Wormy_At 1:25 is best
17:37.37OluapWorkerWe don't have a choice for voting over here
17:37.41OluapWorkerYou either do or get fined
17:37.56Wormy_Apparently the sceptre has been waved about a few times
17:38.05Wormy_in frustration
17:39.03ImperiosOkay you can guess how voting happens here
17:39.29Imperios...Funny thing is my parents have never voted for Putin actually
17:39.33Monet"Brown - And we not only saved the world-- saved the banks" fail
17:39.35OluapWorkeru vote by writin fog war
17:40.39Wormy_Obama and his lightsaber
17:41.57MonetImperios: Lol Jar Jar Cameron
17:42.49ImperiosOkay I am not exactly well acquainted with European politics other than the fact that they're all evil tyrants who seek to undermine our mighty nation's and glorious leader's ascension
17:43.21MonetAlthough personally I more closely associate Cameron with Darth Vader.
17:43.35Wormy_I missed Jar Jar Cameron. what bit was that?
17:44.00MonetWOrmy_: 1:20
17:44.26Wormy_lol
17:44.31ImperiosSo why exactly is Cameron Jar Jar
17:45.20MonetProbably because he's a 3rd party friend to Obama who tries to act serious but still has minimal influence.
17:45.42Wormy_<PROTECTED>
17:46.05Wormy_so he's seen as a fool
17:46.30Wormy_He made lots of mistakes and broken promises
17:46.36ImperiosHuh
17:46.50Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee4i9ojtiOk Okay this video is old and in Russian, but you can guess what it is about by the music
17:47.14Wormy_Lol I get it
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17:48.29HachimanGoddamn internet
17:49.11TekDroidSo many conservative leaders seem to be these disconnected wealthy people.
17:50.07Wormy_lol http://www.garybarker.co.uk/files/David-Cameron-Thatcher-cartoon.jpg
17:50.11MonetI don't know how common filibusters are in the house of commons
17:51.05Wormy_In short summary the Conservatives think they can fix the country by supporting the top (business) first, and then down.
17:51.29MonetThe trickle-down theory is a load of bull
17:51.40Wormy_So they makes cuts everywhere and privatise services like the NHS
17:51.49ImperiosWe have corrupt bastards everywhere hur
17:52.21Wormy_Most of our parties are like that really, under the skin.  In fact its often said that the Tories are the lesser of two evils, and Labour are even worse
17:52.55Wormy_Hence I expect, because Labour is so hated, we will have the Conservatives again
17:53.53Wormy_People with either keep voting them, or vote Greens (on the left), or even UKIP.  So whatever the situation is its very disproportionate.
17:54.07Wormy_Even if people don't like the Tories
17:54.08TekDroidInteresting
17:54.13TekDroidSounds like a mess
17:55.02MonetThe two party system is breaking down here.
17:55.09ImperiosOkay, Tories, Labour and UKIP I know
17:55.12ImperiosBut who are the Greens?
17:55.28MonetImperios: Environmentalists, msotly.
17:55.34ImperiosOh right
17:55.47Imperios...Why would you vote them anyway
17:56.24MonetWell more accurately they're environmentally-minded politicians
17:56.27TekDroidAre Greens anti-monarchist? Thought I heard that somewhere.
17:56.43Wormy_<PROTECTED>
17:57.08MonetThough yeah, most of my family is in agreement that the Greens are not strong political material.
17:57.10ImperiosHm
17:57.27ImperiosHow socialist exactly is Labour anyway?
17:58.10MonetI'd say... "sort-of"
17:58.11Wormy_<PROTECTED>
17:58.54Wormy_UK is supposed to be one of the wealthiest nations but it has a good percentage of the population requiring foodbanks.  Something is terribly wrong here
17:59.08TekDroidO.o
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17:59.52OluapWorkerThe secretary keeps calling my manager. He decided to get a paper, wrote "Stop pestering me" on it and put it on his chest
17:59.58Wormy_Imperios:  Old Labour were proper Social Democrats, now they are just left of the Conservatives
18:00.09CatfaceHeard you've been talkin' shit.
18:00.14Hachimanolol
18:00.19ImperiosCatface: Oh yeah, we wanted to ask you something
18:00.29ImperiosAbout the Ulmaria Kingdom, to be precise
18:00.41Wormy_Imp:  The Green party are now the closest to Old Labour
18:00.56CatfaceI already answered that question I think.
18:01.30Wormy_Hi Catface
18:01.38MonetMy problem is the Greens want ot get rid of our nuclear arsenal. Personally I think that only weakens the UK.
18:02.08CatfacePersonally I think that the UK needs a larger nuclear arsenal.
18:02.38MonetWe're a country on the UN Security Council and the Greens want to ditch our most potent weapons based on principle. This is one of the reasons I disagree with them
18:03.42Wormy_I like the progressive (and in the end I am a leftie) and liberal stances of the Greens.  But I'm unsure about their ideological stance against GM crops (even for humanitarian uses) and nuclear energy.
18:04.27MonetNuclear energy is still pretty clean compared to th ealternatives
18:04.39CatfaceEvery child should have the privilege of seeing a massive nuclear missile at least once growing up.
18:04.40Wormy_Thats like preferring millions in East Asia go blind and die of hunger because you find a better rice grain "unnatural".  They do not seem open to debate about this issue
18:05.18Wormy_I'm not sure if all the Greens are like that or just a couple, though
18:05.20TekDroidGiven all the military reproductive organ measuring lately, do we really want to disarm ourselves?
18:05.44MonetTekDroid: The latter is my point exactly.
18:05.58CatfaceYeah, not the best time to remove your arms.
18:06.12Wormy_The supporters aof disarmenant say it will show the UK is a leading example.  But why should dictatorships want to follow our example?
18:06.16dromMonet Wormy_ Hachiman Ghelaway Jo: Relevant: http://i.imgur.com/UKkuBID.png
18:06.37MonetWormy_: It's an example i nthe wrong direction really.
18:07.01Wormy_lol
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18:07.17Wormy_Agreed
18:07.44MonetI don't agree with global peace coming from disarmament. Because the moment someone who disagrees rocks up, he's got the edge.
18:08.20Wormy_http://www.garybarker.co.uk/files/David-Cameron-Thatcher-cartoon.jpg
18:09.21Wormy_At the same time, give how many times error nearly started WW3
18:09.38Wormy_I question the supposed stability
18:10.06Wormy_But its Pandora's box now, the cat is out the bag
18:11.33MonetEurope might be speaking Russian now were it not for nukes - they served as a way for NATO to have a legitimate counter to the sheer mass of the Red Army.
18:12.43MonetGranted that advantage disappeared as Russia built up its own nuclear arsenal
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18:26.44ImperiosTrue
18:26.47dromOluapWorker Imperios Hachiman: http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/34euq3/a_human_an_elf_and_a_dwarf_joke_crosspost_rdnd/
18:28.26Hachimanolol
18:29.07OluapWorkerhoh
18:29.14OluapWorkerDamn dorfs
18:33.09OluapWorkerI assume something like a trap door which sends people pummeling into spikes/lava is something you can do in Dorf Fort
18:33.58MonetIts a very basic trap
18:34.06Monetbut yes
18:34.11OluapWorkerRight good
18:34.51MonetI've always wanted to build an entrance chamber that closed when enemies entered and then filled with lava
18:34.55OluapWorkerThe idea of putting a trap door to a lava pit at the entrance of the fortress is something which pleases me a lot
18:35.06OluapWorkerI really ought to play this game again
18:35.22dromIt is however a difficulty to deliever or find lava in the place where you want it to be.
18:35.24MonetMy only problem was finding the lava
18:35.46OluapWorkerI probably already forgot all the stuff I learned though
18:35.55OluapWorkerI only played for a total of like an hour
18:35.56dromThat's where "always embark on volcano" come through.
18:36.28Wormy_Monet:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoq6ohIsYKU
18:36.57dromIt is however easy to construct traps.
18:37.16dromBoth as buildings and fortress constructions.
18:37.24OluapWorkerI know you can put spear on the floor
18:38.13dromMonet OluapWorker: http://zippy.gfycat.com/ExcitableLoathsomeBlackfly.webm
18:38.14OluapWorkerNow I can imagine a room with spears completely filled with corpses which the dorfs never bother to clean
18:38.57OluapWorkerYou're gonna have to explain what happened there
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18:40.30dromThe drawbridge (grey rectangle) retracted at the same time as spike traps extruded from the floor (middle, where the front-pack goblins become red floor and wall paint).
18:40.38ImpyDroidMonet: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/eb/Ar-Klith_Map.png/revision/latest?cb=20150506190254 BTW take a look
18:41.08dromUnderneath the bridge were cage traps laid out.
18:41.22Monetdrom: If Gordon Brown actually did that I think a lot of papers would go berserk
18:41.42dromTo the right, it was a minecart launcher.
18:42.34dromThe minecart was filled with sawblades, which were poured all over the hallway when the minecart slammed into the fortifcations.
18:44.31ImpyDroid(Sorry if you commented before, I haven't seen it)
18:44.32dromMinecart launchers are effective to launch a specific payload on an area infront of it.
18:45.05dromElven merchants coming through to my trade depot.
18:45.17OluapWorkerSo the dwarves can literally throw minecarts at people
18:45.31MonetMinecarts full of sawblades
18:45.33ImpyDroidMetal as fug
18:46.05dromAye
18:46.08OluapWorkerCan't say that's not original
18:46.18dromI know what to do with these merchants.
18:46.19MonetWormy_: Funnily enough I recall one Spitting Image sketch that showed a Tory politician who was such slime he turned into a slug.
18:48.32Wormy_lol
18:50.04OluapWorkerDo dwarf nobles have any purpose?
18:50.21OluapWorkerBecause I only see players complain about them and often kill them in exaggerated ways
18:51.39dromThey do alot of demands.
18:51.47MonetThey're supposed to be the managers of the fortress
18:51.59MonetWho have all the estemmed positions
18:52.20dromMonet: http://i.imgur.com/77wGNs7.jpg
18:52.42OluapWorkerWhat are their uses?
18:53.16Monet...you're right they don't do much
18:53.56dromThey are however representants for your diplomacy.
18:54.33MonetWatching all this Spitting Image I now wonder if the Draconid peerage are just as childish towards each other during sessions of the Grand Senate.
18:54.47MonetOnly instead of berating by party, they berate by noble house
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18:56.09dromOluapWorker Monet: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Noble
18:56.32OluapWorkerI read that page
18:56.35The_RandomnessHello
18:56.45OluapWorkerit doesn't say they have much use other than pestering your population
18:57.05OluapWorkerHi
18:57.15dromNoble are special and individually unique jobs that utilizes in special tasks that other jobs can't do.
19:01.09Monet"The honourable master of House Vex may be a crown-kisser but he is exactly the sort of water-blooded buffoon this imperium needs as a rivel to the greatest houses"
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19:06.20Tek0516Hello
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19:31.41Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11219410_425866144240753_6984129551926581196_n.png?oh=12affa596e72d0deccc8148d1794e296&oe=55C9E6AA
19:33.00OluapWorkerolol
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19:45.52drom_"constructed walls cannot be engraved"
19:45.54drom_well
19:45.55drom_shit
19:51.12Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11011045_253696854800704_4765443297414012251_n.jpg?oh=67339e706f650baecd87366ca22dd204&oe=560A9147 Note how one of the games is called Donkey Schlong
19:51.39OluapWorkerTruly an expanding experience
19:52.19Technobliteratorthere's my vote submitted
19:54.22Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/10689477_1631059830501880_5206468700817265416_n.jpg?oh=c03cd9d41cf5b3625a9a2cd565892550&oe=55D2B350&__gda__=1439615320_ccc602851a413a2e962876607301fe24 Genuine Pornhub comment
19:54.52OluapWorkeris dis u
19:57.03Hachimannon]
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20:07.36dromOluapWorker: Just FYI, there is a df channel in freenode.
20:07.58OluapWorkerI don't frequent other channels
20:09.40HachimanGood because otherwise you would be cheating on me :>
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20:10.59OluapWorkerYou're forgetting everyone else in this chat
20:12.42dromI don't who is making sanviches for who anymore.
20:12.49dromExcept for Jo
20:14.53The_Randomnessdum
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20:25.57dromHm. One of my stoneworkers likes ballista arrows
20:28.21dromNow I imagine himself as the king, and mandates a throne made of ballista arrows.
20:28.45OluapWorkerDeath by impalement upon seating
20:30.43dromI was thinking of the Iron throne, but impartically made of ballista arrows.
20:31.21Hachimanhur
20:33.21dromHm. I can nickname my dwarves.
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20:34.33Knight_AlienHello
20:37.26Wormy_Monet:  http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/07/ukip-supporters-intimidating-voters-south-thanet-labour
20:38.02TekDroidLovely
20:39.33dromWho wants their name in my fortress as a dwarf's nickname?
20:39.59OluapWorkerput me in dis
20:40.19OluapWorkerI'll die in a retarded way sooner or later but that's the whole fun of it
20:40.36Hachimanhur
20:40.45dromHere's a list if any of you want to be the nickname of a specific dwarf. http://i.imgur.com/i29D1QV.png
20:41.46OluapWorkerI'm fine with any of them really
20:42.05HachimanI wanna be Urdim
20:42.22OluapWorker>No job
20:42.25OluapWorkerfits like a glove
20:42.39dromYup
20:42.55dromSoon as he becomes a demanding noble, I've plans with him.
20:42.56OluapWorkerActually I wanna be Dodók
20:43.05OluapWorkercus militia
20:44.46dromOluapWorker Hachiman: Is this satisfactory you both? http://i.imgur.com/5ZHD5DL.png
20:45.04OluapWorkerYis
20:45.09HachimanAye
20:45.23OluapWorkerDodók was here, Urdim is a loser
20:45.41dromHachiman: This is your character. http://i.imgur.com/u9I6NNr.png
20:46.52Hachiman"He has the appearance of somebody who is 80 years old and is the first of his kind"
20:46.57OluapWorker"People should listen to what I have to say."                    "WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIENER"
20:47.28HachimanAlso he likes rabbits
20:47.36OluapWorkerFUG7
20:47.38OluapWorkerfug even
20:47.44dromOluapWorker: And here is your yours in question: http://i.imgur.com/P8uKGkl.png
20:48.04OluapWorkerI'm a girl
20:48.08Hachiman"I feel alright"
20:48.13HachimanPretty accurate
20:48.25OluapWorkerBut that's the opposite of how I always feel
20:48.51OluapWorkerBut that red description does fit me like a glove
20:49.00Hachiman"Little patience and next to no willpower"
20:51.14drom"She has an overinflated sense of self-worth"
20:51.25OluapWorkerAlso fits
20:52.17dromAlright. Anyone else?
20:58.56dromI guess I'm going to pick Òunl for myself.
20:59.09dromònul even
21:00.08dromis also girl
21:00.19OluapWorkerkek
21:00.20OluapWorkerded
21:00.45The_Randomnessrip
21:01.04dromHere's the character if anyone is curious. http://i.imgur.com/Vp5hp3m.png
21:03.09dromFunny that the red and personality (the rich white text at bottom) descriptions are 100% accurate.
21:10.15dromMonet: Ya interested?
21:10.29MonetHmm, possibly
21:14.57dromWho would you be like?
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21:41.32Wormy_So far Conservatives have the most seats by a wild margin
21:41.39Wormy_Wide
21:42.14TekDroidThat's just an exit poll though.
21:43.21Wormy_ah i see
21:44.52Wormy_it was accurate last time
21:45.51TekDroidThey're usually accurate to a fair margin of error.
21:46.24TekDroidAccording to Google and BBC we should be seeing proper results in an hour
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21:53.09HachimanFucking internet
21:56.23TekDroidOoh, first confirmed seat.
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22:31.13Wormy_3 Labour holds
22:51.47Technobliteratorhow do you keep updated?
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23:09.34Wormy_Technobliterator:  Youtube Spotlight has ITV and Sky News live
23:09.46Technobliteratorlink?
23:09.53Wormy_What the hell this party is contesting http://alzebab.org/
23:10.03Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4hmqVPe0E
23:11.31Wormy_" Renounce Your White Skin"  What?
23:13.12Wormy_http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/election-2015-meet-al-zebabist-nation-ooog-party-that-says-nigel-farage-may-be-beheaded-1496409
23:14.05Wormy_Can't tell if pure crazy or pure troll.
23:14.20Technobliteratorwhy not both
23:16.04Wormy_Yeah
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23:20.04ExternalDumternet.
23:20.10ExternalBeen errible all day
23:21.43Wormy_Technobliterator:  Did you see MRLP guy's hat?
23:21.54AeoJust added a "Political Philosophy" category to the PGPS
23:22.21HachimanMRLP
23:22.26HachimanI was surprised they even exist
23:23.06Wormy_They're someone to waste a vote on.  I find em amusing though
23:24.23Wormy_7 Monster Raving Loony Party policies which are now part of UK law http://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/7-monster-raving-loony-party-5644717
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23:27.39External_Stupid CONNECTION
23:28.01External_Anyways..Wormy_ can you delete the pages on my profile page? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Externalization
23:28.41HachimanWhy are you deleting your stuff?
23:29.34Wormy_If you plan on redoing those pages, you are better off hust re-writing them or moving them.  Otherwise I'll delete
23:29.36External_I want a new start. Besides, all those fictions I cannot handle at once. Also, most of them break ONE rule of some sort.
23:29.40Wormy_*just
23:30.00Wormy_Alright, though I'll ask you to clear some red links to those pages
23:30.10External_Alright.
23:30.32Wormy_Once I've deleted them, use this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere
23:32.04External_I've gotten rid of the ships of B.A.C on the U.N.O page, and I am currently deleting the red links on the NI page.
23:32.05Wormy_Done
23:32.18External_Other than that, there are none.
23:32.33Wormy_And you've used that tool?
23:32.56External_No, I manually gotten rid of them.
23:32.57Wormy_As other users might have made links too
23:33.11Wormy_Plus they maybe in mesage walls and so on
23:33.19Wormy_Well please do
23:33.32External_I do have to ask Xho for permission to remove the bottom power: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ayrai%27Shikua/Demonic_Energy#Exoaisthitikis
23:33.42Wormy_Just type in the title (and namespace), then search
23:34.41Wormy_Normallt you don't to enact wiki policies, but if you feel better about asking him first, then that's fine
23:36.49External_Done
23:36.52External_Thanks.
23:37.08Wormy_Cool
23:38.38External_Now I learned not to juggle *6* pages at once without completing the first page.
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23:40.00The_RandomnessHello
23:45.29External_test
23:45.35External_And hello
23:46.19TechnobliteratorWormy_, can you give me the link again?
23:46.32TechnobliteratorI lost it :  |
23:46.44The_Randomnessrip
23:47.45Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw4hmqVPe0E
23:51.00TechnobliteratorLooks like a Tory majority
23:51.26Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Fiction%3ABorealis+Asdian+Colonies%2FEvolved&namespace=  http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Fiction%3ABorealis+Asdian+Colonies&namespace=  http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Fiction%3AAsdian+Empire&namespace=
23:52.02The_Randomnesshm?
23:52.07Wormy_External_  Come on mate clean up this mess
23:52.54External_Alright, brb
23:53.03Wormy_Don't have to do it all in one go, but I don't see why I have to clean up all the red links for you
23:54.50Technobliteratorwell, we shouldn't do this for yoy
23:54.52Technobliteratoryou*
23:55.05External_That's why i'm doing it now.
23:55.05Technobliteratorwhen it's your fiction pages
23:55.10Technobliteratorsweet
23:55.21TechnobliteratorYeah, there's no way this won't be a Tory majority
23:55.51External_Also, if you ban me for editing the posts on Dingo the Wolfies wall by me, I will be pissed
23:56.01External_Quite a bit
23:56.32Technobliterator?
23:56.49External_Can I just delete the posts? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:197457
23:56.50Wormy_I'm not forcing you to do anything you shouldn't do.  I just want to encourage users to do a fair bit too.  We are not a service.
23:57.25Wormy_I'm guessing you can't edit them?
23:57.29The_RandomnessMods are people too? wut
23:57.59External_Wormy_: I could, but I believe I would have to remove the content on the page.
23:58.12The_RandomnessI thought we were just oppressive robots, not people.
23:58.21Technobliterator...I don't see what you've done that I should ban people for?
23:58.38TechnobliteratorI'm too busy watching the election
23:58.49Wormy_Same
23:58.49Technobliterator:  |
23:59.32External_#1 that was basically a joke. #2, Technobliterator, you said yourself that I cannot delete pages/comments that are not vandalism around 6 times.
23:59.56Wormy_Ideally we need more people than just admins in this user created content red link purge

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