IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150504

00:00.16MonetA remember one British sketch show made a recurring sketch called "George Bush and his best friend God"
00:02.29MonetThe attempt to enforce good and evil though, ehhhhh
00:03.01AeoMonet: It doesn't all have to do with the Cleanser. It also has to do with their other values. So, abolitionism, utilitarianism, just straight up stories of rescuing people some of them of high quality, and yes, B&W categorization of people.
00:03.39MonetDUnno how wel lthat would go down considering the two most highly-syndicated shows in the real world - Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones - are shows where *everyone* is an asshole.
00:03.39AeoAnd of all people, the Draconis should be the ones who don't care if they actually agree with its values or not.
00:04.39MonetNot all major media i nthe DI is run by Draconis.
00:06.48MonetAs I've said before, the DI is multicultural
00:07.04AeoMonet: Perhaps. I could see the Aeons making new media to be successful in the DI, though, while still trying to keep it as propagandistic as it may be to influence them.
00:07.39MonetJapan does it with certain Anime so it's rational
00:08.34MonetCOuld be interesting to see made-for-export Aeon shows, which reminds me
00:19.00Aeoyedt
00:19.12AeoMonet: Reminds you of what?
00:19.36MonetI think mass media is underplayed.
00:20.38DrodoEmpireIn the fictionverse?
00:20.44DrodoEmpireYeah definitely
00:24.10AeoAgreed. We could do something about it if we started a page cateloguing popular FG fictional works.
00:24.37AeoSo... television, music, films, novels, etc.
00:24.42Aeovideo games too.
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00:28.32The_RandomnessI can't even begin to imagine what media in my nation would be like without humanizing it in some way.
00:29.37MonetCurrently one of the main ideas is more news exposure.
00:30.52Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:199717 there
00:32.21MonetHit F5
00:33.40The_RandomnessI'll think about it some more later, I need to work on this lab report
00:36.07The_RandomnessBut I think I decided that one of their means of communication would in some way be comparable to Reddit
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00:39.26Wormy_STO"Spacebook accounts" made me laugh more than I should
00:39.32The_Randomnesslol
00:40.23MonetI'm not sure which I thought funnier, "Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead" reachin no. 2 in 2013, or Nu taking a selfie.
00:40.46TechnobliteratorLEMME TAKE A #SELFIE
00:41.12MonetThough I can sorta imagine Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead becoming a Xonexi sensation after Maxime's death.
00:41.14TechnobliteratorI'm surprised it didn't reach no. 1
00:41.26MonetIt reached no. 1 in Scotland if it's any consellation
00:41.31Monetconsolation*
00:43.15Monethttp://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1557437/ding-dong-the-witch-is-dead-denied-no-1-on-uk-singles-chart according to this it was beaten by Duke Dumont's "Need U (100%)"
00:46.10Wormy_STOI see people with shirts that say "Still hate Thatcher"
00:46.30Wormy_STOKeep in mind I live in what was an industrial heartland before her wickedness
00:46.49Wormy_STOI would have been a miner!
00:46.58Wormy_STOMining lead and coal!
00:47.06The_Randomnessfunfunfunfun
00:48.11Wormy_STOAs such my county is filled with derelect mines http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/magpie-mine--sheldon-in-derbyshire-rod-johnson.jpg
00:48.37Wormy_STOIf you are not careful in the fields you mightdisappear down one
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00:51.12The_RandomnessHello
00:51.27MonetHello
00:52.17AdmiralPandahi all
00:53.01Wormy_STOI know many people who worked "dahn  pit"
00:53.13Wormy_STOI think the old folk still expect I should
00:55.09Wormy_STOThen I tell them I work with software and they think I'm operating one of these http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Edvac.jpg
00:58.27Tek0516O.o
00:58.36The_Randomnesslol
00:59.00MonetBehind the times lol
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01:00.07The_RandomnessHello
01:00.11MonetHello
01:00.11dinoman9877Oh look. I'm alive.
01:00.17dinoman9877Hello all.
01:00.29dinoman9877And no, this isn't the other dino that people seem to love so much. XD
01:00.50DrodoEmpireglares at dinoman9877; "Imposter."
01:00.55DrodoEmpire3:<
01:00.57AdmiralPandadon't worry, just because we love you second most doesn't mean we don't love you
01:01.02AdmiralPandawell, it kinda does actually
01:01.10dinoman9877Don't make me call in the swarm!
01:01.11dinoman9877Oh...
01:01.14DrodoEmpire:o
01:01.15dinoman9877Now I'm depressed...
01:01.21dinoman9877YOU ALL DEPRESS ME SO MUCH!
01:01.24DrodoEmpirelaughs evilly
01:01.26The_RandomnessLook at what you've done this time Panda :p
01:02.18dinoman9877When was the last time I worked on that story....when was the last time I saw Alien?
01:02.33dinoman9877You guys let me get lazy!
01:02.49dinoman9877I don't even remember the last time me and Knight Alien talked or worked on our fiction!
01:03.02The_RandomnessAt least you get to learn from the best, that is, people like me.
01:03.49dinoman9877Well I can't do anything without the other half of the fiction.
01:04.33dinoman9877I mean I could remake the fiction to make it realistic and readable because his English es no bueno and he had his species apparently assumes a new species was intelligent...
01:04.46dinoman9877But beyond that...
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01:05.22dinoman9877I don't like that IRC displays your IP address...
01:05.32DrodoEmpireshrugs
01:05.43DrodoEmpireMakes it easier for the big bad admins to ban you! >:D
01:05.49The_RandomnessIndeed.
01:06.20dinoman9877Ban me for what?
01:06.39dinoman9877Calling in a swarm of genetic mutants to butcher you all? What's so bad about that?!
01:06.54dinoman9877Everyone likes a good butchering!
01:09.00The_RandomnessMan, it seems like everything in the universe is out there just to kill us. amirite?
01:09.45TekDroidNgh... Sleep, but... work stuff, but sleep...
01:09.53dinoman9877Large, reptile-like, hive-minded animals. Sorry!
01:10.14dinoman9877Okay, sleep makes you feel better, work stuff gives you money to buy what is necessary to live...
01:10.24The_RandomnessSleep is for the weak.
01:11.20dinoman9877I kinda want to work on the fiction for my beautiful genetic mutants...
01:11.44dinoman9877But again, I lack the second half of the team. ;-;
01:44.47dinoman9877The silence is deafening.
01:45.12DrodoEmpirehttp://www.valvetime.net/threads/has-modding-gone-too-far.245883/
01:54.09DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb7aXL4WV8A&list=PLHmR7c8zbVZRtXNcolZ31_61x_nro2-Nm&index=1
01:55.31The_Randomness"Zooming in...uh...MAXIMUM SHAT" https://youtu.be/RS-A6LBoKeI?t=43
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01:58.07TechnobliteratorHah
01:58.17TechnobliteratorIRC doesn't display my IP address
01:58.19Technobliterator:)
01:58.25The_Randomnessnoice
01:59.40Comrade_VinnyHey guys!
02:07.40Wormy_STOsudden extreme urge to sleep
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02:57.21GD12hai
02:58.34DrodoEmpireHi
02:59.35MonetHello
03:01.34Tek0516Hello
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06:31.03GhelaeHello.
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07:45.50HachimanHai
07:45.54GhelaeHello.
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10:59.06ImperiosGah, this arrogant Brit is stupid
10:59.17Imperios"The West gave the world electricity, the internet, computers, capitalism, the scientific method, advanced mathematics, physics and medicine, the industrial revolution, radio, universities, Magna Carta, photography, telescopes, the printing press, space travel, and secularism."
11:00.29ImperiosThe scientific methods, universities and advanced mathematics and medicine is Middle Eastern, let's start with this
11:01.00ImperiosAnd the printing press, he was talking about Korea's contribution... I guess he does realise *where* the first modern printing press was made
11:01.47Imperioshttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/JikjiType.gif Here's a hint
11:01.54ImperiosHi Ghelae
11:02.36ImperiosGhelae: "The West gave the world electricity, the internet, computers, capitalism, the scientific method, advanced mathematics, physics and medicine, the industrial revolution, radio, universities, Magna Carta, photography, telescopes, the printing press, space travel, and secularism."
11:02.40ImperiosHow is one supposed to react to that
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11:19.37Wormy_hi
11:19.42OluapWorkerHello
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11:44.41Liquid_LaptopHello.
11:45.55XhoHi
11:46.31Liquid_LaptopWhat's Kamik'shi's status in current fiction?
11:46.47XhoNon canon
11:46.54XhoNo longer exists
11:47.10Liquid_LaptopSplit between chaos and Draguros?
11:47.22XhoHard to explain
11:48.06OluapWorkerspu
11:48.11XhoU
11:48.22OluapWorkerYou're on early
11:48.31XhoBank Holiday
11:48.42OluapWorkerholodoo
11:58.03XhoStill trying to do an emblem for the Order of the Black Sun
11:58.10XhoIt's hard because I have no real idea for it
11:59.29Liquid_LaptopRings inside each other. And spikes.
12:00.06OluapWorkerWhat's wrong with the current emblem?
12:01.50XhoJust don't like it really
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12:09.52HachimanHai
12:10.48Xhorabit
12:11.49Hachimanbrb]
12:18.48Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e6/BlackSunEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20150504121714 There we go
12:21.57Liquid_LaptopAre members going to be able to replicate that easily?
12:24.18XhoNot really
12:24.20XhoThat's kind of the idea
12:24.41XhoThe Order of the Black Sun is basically absolute nonsense
12:25.40Liquid_LaptopI see.
12:26.49OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
12:26.50infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
12:27.10Hachimanbak
12:27.14Hachiman~cuddle OluapWorker
12:27.14infobotACTION grabs OluapWorker and cuddles until OluapWorker begs for mercy
12:31.29XhoMost of the inspiration of the Order of the Black Sun comes from the Chaosrealm from Mortal Kombat
12:31.38XhoIt's literally just an entire realm of people doing whatever the hell they want
12:32.01XhoPunching a woman is considered a turn-on
12:32.06OluapWorkerWhogivesashitopia
12:32.16XhoPretty much
12:32.37XhoThe only notable Chaosrealmer called Havik has a maimed face and is able to contort his body in unnatural ways
12:32.52XhoAnd in-game he actually gets healed from breaking his own body
12:34.21XhoThough Vultusk and Caedes don't really have any inspiration from Havik considering one is a tree-like spider and the other is a giant corpse
12:34.46Hachimanhur
12:34.54OluapWorker>Havik
12:34.59OluapWorkerHavok's cousin
12:35.01HachimanI get reminded a little of Voldo
12:35.05OluapWorkerHakov even
12:35.16XhoVoldo is just weird
12:35.31XhoIf anything Vultusk is probably closer to the Flesh Atronachs from Oblivion
12:35.37XhoThey are freaky as fuc
12:35.39Xhofuck even
12:35.44Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120810220939/elderscrolls/images/8/8f/SIFlesh_Atronach.png
12:36.35OluapWorkernasti
12:37.03OluapWorkerTechnobliterator: You online?
12:38.05OluapWorkerThat's a no
12:38.18XhoI need a top quote for the Order hm
12:38.30XhoMight have to use Vultusk as a character for it
12:38.54XhoHachiman: Can I say that the Order of the Black Sun are somewhat affiliated with the Exosubstratal
12:39.13XhoThe order sort of worships Crux/Caligaduro but they don't really know it
12:39.24HachimanI suppose so
12:39.53HachimanThe Exosubstratal would not spare them for it though hur
12:40.02OluapWorkerneed something to do
12:40.12XhoVultusk - guess dat makes sense
12:40.39XhoThen again the Order of the Black Sun wouldn't take the Exosubstratal lightly either
12:40.54XhoAlliances are difficult when you're spontaneous and violent
12:41.13XhoOluapWorker: Make me a character for the Black Sun lel
12:41.25OluapWorkerCould do
12:41.31OluapWorkerl8r tho
12:42.25HachimanI might work more on the Khahurnim
12:42.55HachimanI decided that there would be a subspecies of Khahurnim residing in the Tropical Lands as a result of southern tribes moving out of the Sea of Sand
12:43.46OluapWorkerwood sand olf
12:43.55HachimanAnd also that northern Khahurnim tribes have a greater affiliation with marauders and raiders than those of the southern region of the Sea of Sand, who are a considerably more friendly
12:44.03HachimanBut still rather distant from modern societies
12:45.51XhoI suppose the Order also worships Kalisearan as well in some weird way
12:46.01XhoBasically any god that wants to fuck the world up
12:46.52OluapWorkerVargash - whers me in dis
12:46.56Wormy_I'll be back
12:47.07XhoSuppose Vargash and Kaicaiusarin as well
12:47.18XhoThey worship all the evil gods though they themselves aren't really evil
12:47.49XhoIn fact the Order is actually opposing Caligaduro because they don't want the world to get reduced to nothing
12:48.04XhoIf they want the world to end they'll do it singing and dancing until everyone dies
12:49.58XhoOluapPlayer: I guess you already know but when you make a High Priest for the Order make sure his/her/its name ends in 'Kychtdar'
12:50.12XhoMost likely it
12:50.39OluapWorkerI had no idea hur
12:50.50Xhorite
12:50.54Xhowell nao u kno
12:51.07XhoKychtdar is the title of a High Priest in the Order
12:51.10OluapWorkerVultusk the Second Kychtdar
12:51.23XhoVultusk - we are the first straight to the twenty sixth u dunce
12:51.38XhoSo Vultusk Kychtdar is really High Priest Vultusk
12:51.40OluapWorkerLittle do we know Vultusk is a species and not an individual
12:51.57XhoWell not so far from the truth
12:52.04XhoVultusk is made from lots of different species
12:52.29OluapWorkerWhat kind of High Priest can I make?
12:52.41XhoWell lemme see
12:52.54HachimanPolysexual lady cultist
12:52.54XhoVultusk is the High Priest of Violence so not violence hur
12:53.07HachimanOr rather
12:53.11XhoTo be honest a polysexual lady cultists is in the realms of possibility
12:53.13HachimanHypersexual lady cultist
12:53.53XhoThere are also places for a High Priest of Death and a High Priest of Undeath
12:53.57OluapWorkerKalcedia the Cultist
12:54.07XhoVultusk - we like this one
12:54.46XhoYou'd have leaders over orgies I guess like the hypersexual lady
12:54.53XhoCrazy parties and whatnot
12:55.06OluapWorkerLady - this is the party where you make new holes
12:55.12XhoBasically anything societally deviant and there is a high priest for it
12:55.31OluapWorkerHamoins - nice place that one
12:55.33XhoThey all have their own little city state within one fucking massive city
12:55.58XhoVultusk's is mainly strewn with dead people as was shown
12:56.24XhoProbably the unfriendliest neighbourhood in the entire city
12:56.44XhoA form of greeting there would be stabbing someone
12:56.59XhoFor no reason whatsoever
12:57.16OluapWorkerVultusk gets hit by a ballista bolt across the head -> "Great weather today"
12:57.24Xhohur
12:57.49OluapWorkerSince we went for the hypersexual lady road I may as well go for that hur
12:57.50XhoMost of the dead bodies Vultusk collects and uses to create more bodies for himself anyway
12:58.15XhoYou can imagine he doesn't get along with the Death/Undeath priests because of it
13:00.09XhoI suppose one can draw similarities between Mortium's Freeland City and the Order of the Black Sun's Necropolis
13:00.12OluapWorkerMakes you wonder how the cult manages to survive at all considering how self-destructive it seems to be
13:00.14XhoJust lots of dead people
13:00.18TechnobliteratorOluapWorker, I am now
13:00.19XhoOh it has rules
13:00.22TechnobliteratorSorry, I was at the gym
13:00.27OluapWorkerYou are but Wormy left
13:00.46XhoVultusk's city is just the most self destructive one
13:00.51Technobliteratoraw
13:01.08TechnobliteratorWell, I'm mostly free the rest of the day
13:01.11TechnobliteratorNo college today
13:01.33OluapWorkergud
13:01.33XhoMakes me wonder how large this one city is
13:02.02XhoI don't think anyone is eager to know in Koldenwelt anyway
13:04.09XhoThe rules in Vultusk's city is that the number murdered in one day is limited
13:05.29XhoThe rules are quite vauge in general though
13:05.48XhoThings such as murder in the rest of the city is generally taboo
13:06.53OluapWorkerSo people only get horribly murdered in Vultusk's district
13:07.35XhoUsually
13:08.22XhoThe Order of the Black Sun certainly has a magical atmosphere that just drives everyone insane
13:08.43XhoNo one just decides to go and live there really
13:08.51XhoNot everyone anyway
13:09.13XhoMost of them are either born in there or possibly captured and assimilated into their culture
13:18.51XhoI'm thinking of making a race for the Order of the Black Sun that have just been spawned out of millennia of isolation
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13:19.49JepardiHi
13:19.57XhoHi
13:20.27XhoSvarsolvaran is a possible name though it doesn't sound Black Sun-ish
13:21.41XhoXaartolxand is more Black Sun-ish
13:32.54Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/4DQxT1i.png?1 Haran shi Serya-Fakirji, new Khahurnim character
13:33.21OluapWorkerVery nice armor
13:33.32OluapWorkerwho him b
13:33.55HachimanWell there's a free Khahurnim city-state in northern Koldenwelt
13:34.04HachimanHe is its primary military general
13:38.01OluapWorkerI'm seeing a lot of mentions of the expression city-state after I started playing Civ V
13:38.14OluapWorkerEven though Civ V city-states are fucking annoying hur
13:38.36XhoXimicacan
13:38.51Technobliteratoryou started playing Civ V? :o
13:38.53OluapWorkerXIMICACAMMMMMMMMM
13:38.56OluapWorkerYes
13:39.05TechnobliteratorEveryone I know plays that 0.
13:39.06Technobliterator0
13:39.42Xhodafuq is dat language
13:39.56OluapWorkerI guess I could make it so the Nightshade Clan is a city-state
13:40.16XhoCity states everywhere hur
13:40.26OluapWorkerJust like in Civ V
13:40.29OluapWorkerTERRIBUL
13:41.19OluapWorkerThey're never happy and unless you literally shit gold on their heads all the time, they'll only be your allies for a few turns at most
13:41.20Hachiman"If you like the look of the raccoon, that doesn't mean you have to give up the egg. Always enjoy the fact that egg are inside of the dolphin, but not today."
13:41.42OluapWorkerPlus they're useless in war
13:41.45XhoVultusk - bedtime story
13:47.05XhoOluapWorker: has u got a name for dis high priestess
13:47.14XhoI kind of need one for the page
13:47.15OluapWorkernope
13:47.25OluapWorkerI don't know what Black Sun people names are like
13:47.35XhoUgly
13:47.42OluapWorkerfien den
13:47.47OluapWorkerHigh Priestess Xho
13:47.56XhoI'M A PRETTY PRIESTESS
13:47.58XhoNOT SO MUCH
13:48.14OluapWorkerRandom name generator time
13:48.37XhoThe name of the one city of the Order is called Xittaasekatvas
13:48.45XhoSo it's mainly sort of ugly and alien looking
13:49.29OluapWorkerMadiiraxaven?
13:49.35XhoThat wors
13:49.37Xhoworks
13:49.44OluapWorkergud
13:50.46Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Order_of_the_Black_Sun That is where I have got so far
13:50.49XhoI need to make pictures really
13:52.18HachimanRight so I decided I am gonna name the free Khahurnim city-state Mivtzar
13:53.51OluapWorkerMadiiraxaven - i am important mann... womann
13:53.59Hachimanhur
13:54.22OluapWorkeri'll wait until the page is done to work on her
13:54.28OluapWorkerSo I know what exactly I can do
13:55.28OluapWorkerHachiman: What's this city-state like?
13:56.42HachimanMilitant and somewhat authoritan although not unapproachable
13:57.11HachimanThey're far more likely to communicate regularly with other desert nations than the Drifting Tribes are
13:57.23HachimanOr at least most tribes
13:58.31HachimanThey're also strained allies with the Sovereignty although not actual members
13:59.37HachimanTechnologically they compete with Khaepsha-ultan although are nowhere near as large or expansive
13:59.45OluapWorkerWhat would be their relationship with the Merovar?
13:59.56OluapWorkerand the Khaepsha while we're at it hur
14:00.31HachimanI imagine their relationship with the Dynasty would be good if anything, although not the most intimate of connections
14:01.00HachimanAs for Khaepsha-ultan, Mivtzar despises them as a majority of Khahurnim and other desert nations do hur
14:03.12OluapWorkerFair enough
14:03.14OluapWorkerSo them and the Dynasty could be trading partners
14:04.16HachimanAye sure
14:04.21OluapWorkerNow that I think about it, city states are a good way to get new races/factions in the setting without making them huge empires
14:04.56HachimanI imagine that some Khahurnim from Mivtzar would move to the Dynasty to escape the more authoritan rule of Mivtzar's government
14:05.07OluapWorkerThis talk also makes me realize I never made a history for the Dynasty
14:05.46Hachimanyeh and dats dum
14:05.52OluapWorkerAll I have is that their first ruler was called Marigrax, they had a caligula-type ruler called Karnak, and they fought the Ankhor at some never-determined time until Almonohuim got mad at them
14:06.25OluapWorkerSeverely underdeveloped
14:06.44OluapWorkerTends to happen to my alleged "main" factions hur
14:09.13HachimanI can imagine that Mivtzar has fought with the Drifting Tribes on occasion as their ideals differ rather radically
14:10.03OluapWorkerI find the Dynasty extremely hard to work on, just like the Collective in the fictionverse
14:10.22OluapWorkerI could come up with a whole history for the Vermin kingdom in a few minutes but I can never think of anything for the Dynasty
14:10.56HachimanAye I can imagine
14:42.53Technobliteratorso
14:42.57Technobliteratorwhen are we  doing this thing :o
14:43.51OluapWorkerWhat thing
14:44.25Technobliteratorthere's Fog War or there's Loron thing
14:44.54OluapWorkerWormy is needed for the Fog War, and I'll be leaving for lunch in 15 minutes
14:45.08Technobliteratoroh, so after that, I guess
14:45.39OluapWorkerIf Hachi is available, yes
14:45.56OluapWorkerBut my priority is the Fog War so i'll do that first given the chance
14:47.22TechnobliteratorMhm
15:00.56Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Khaadun#Relations Updated this
15:01.54OluapAwaySea Witch - CAVEMAN ACCENT
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15:02.34XhoKhaadun - CAVEMAN CLOTHES
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15:03.28Wormy_hi
15:06.45Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NboSeVfWph8 Never gonna be able to get over this
15:09.22Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Annamasakkan#Relationships Polite Skaurovirn talk
15:20.19Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Longinus Half-polite Orichalcum Elf talk
15:21.05Hachimanhur
15:22.53XhoAnnamasakkan is probably my nastiest character in terms of spite levels
15:23.21XhoThough in reality he just has a barrier up
15:23.24XhoThat has spikes on it
15:23.45OluapWorker"You may have been considered sought after in my time."
15:23.49OluapWorkerLonginus wants that chocolate booty
15:24.04XhoLonginus - cannae do it cap'n
15:24.16OluapWorkerPelagrios - yeh i saw it furst
15:24.57OluapWorkerHachiman Xho Wormy_ Technobliterator: Can we do Fog War now?
15:25.02Xhondfjsd
15:25.09TechnobliteratorWe can the second I save this edit
15:25.10Wormy_I can't I'm afraid
15:25.12OluapWorkerNd - u wat
15:25.15OluapWorkerfug
15:25.17OluapWorkerWhy's that?
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15:25.20Wormy_Maybe maybe tonight
15:25.38TekDroidHello
15:25.45Wormy_Got to studying to do, then a room to clean, and washing up
15:26.02OluapWorkerBlargh
15:26.09OluapWorkerTechnobliterator: We do Loron stuff then I guess
15:26.15TechnobliteratorYeah, sure
15:26.22TechnobliteratorWe can do Fog War later then
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15:27.12HachimanNgh I still need a definite name for the Sohet empire
15:27.37OluapWorkerso get this started
15:27.39HachimanThe Soheti Province apparently is misleading as "Province" implies they served somebody or something else when they ruled over the Sea of Sand hur
15:28.06XhoSoheti Caliphate
15:28.08XhoALLAAAAAAH
15:28.28HachimanThey would not have had a Caliph though hur
15:28.35Technobliteratorhttps://titanpad.com/yHkKd5bKUB for hachi and oluap
15:28.38Xho2bad
15:28.46HachimanThey would have had a Pharaoh, which is where Khaepsha-ultan gets the title from
15:29.31XhoThat would be a kingdom then
15:29.54OluapWorkerThe Allah Akburd Empire
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15:30.36DrodoEmpireHey everyone
15:30.39DrodoEmpireHi Ghel
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15:34.46TekDroidHello
15:40.35OluapWorkerXho: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/936/050/e36.png
15:41.15Xhokabewm
15:41.32OluapWorker"He cooks with a Demopan"
15:43.05OluapWorkerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/939/931/663.jpg me at work
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15:47.32Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:199717 this was talked about last night.
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15:58.03MonetIdunno, the trend of not seeing mass media might be that staple sci-fis like Babylon 5, Star Wars and Star Trek predate mass-consumption of social media.
15:58.23DrodoEmpireThat's a pretty good point
15:58.44MonetIt's common in TV and film really.
15:59.12MonetWriters are most familiar with what they grew up with, and only now are we starting to get writers wh ogrew up with the Internet and Facebook.
15:59.13DrodoEmpireIn reality, we now know that mass-media will almost definitely be the looming presence it is today, if not even more significant
15:59.35DrodoEmpireYeah
16:01.48MonetDrodoEmpire: Probably moe significant
16:02.53MonetIn preparing me for the world of freelance work, my Animation course practically demands the regular use of social media to establish ourselves.
16:03.18DrodoEmpireAh
16:03.44MonetAnd I've seen online peitions though Avaaz make groundbreaking changes.
16:04.42MonetAfter Earth is one of several recent bad films that died on its opening weekend because everyoen was commenting on Facebook and Twitter at how much it sucked.
16:04.54DrodoEmpireYeah
16:06.06MonetAnd here in the UK, all the major parties are communicating with Facebook and Twitter. There were big televised debates that, behind them, had massive Twitter discussions going on as MPs tweeted in tune with the discussion.
16:06.21DrodoEmpireHuh, interesting
16:08.47MonetAnd let's not forget the Arab Spring and UK August Riots.
16:09.21MonetTo major socio-political events that were so widespread because of the use of social media.
16:09.56DrodoEmpireRight
16:10.27MonetI could probably go on
16:10.41MonetBut I don't want ot bore people
16:10.58DrodoEmpireYou aren't boring me XD
16:15.43MonetThere's probably also how many of us use the internet regularly
16:15.50MonetAnd how many use smartphones
16:16.32DrodoEmpire^
16:17.48MonetAlthough the last one maybe in the 2800s everyone uses crainial communicators
16:18.20MonetWith optical projectors that allow you to use apps and watch videos while on the go
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16:32.27OluapWorkerXho: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/808/888/f49.png
16:32.48XhoI controortnoc I
16:40.43Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d7/VultuskCity.png/revision/latest?cb=20150504163936 Vultusk's home
16:40.47Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Settlin_Da_Score :OO
16:41.38OluapWorkerVultusk - that is where we keep our tea cups
16:43.17Technobliteratornudges Hachiman
16:45.00Technobliteratorokay, I'll probably work on this on and off
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16:47.34ImpyDroidhttp://turboportal.ru/uploads/posts/2013-09/1378196456_putin.jpg
16:48.17MonetImpydroid: Wierdly I'm wirting an essay that mentions Vladimir Lenin.
16:48.28ImpyDroidHurgh
16:49.10OluapWorkergo work on fog war pls
16:49.40MonetWell, he only plays a part
16:50.27MonetBasically from what I can tell, the effects of the October Revolution may have been what made Ayn Rand a raging libertarian
16:50.34ImpyDroidCould be
16:51.12ImpyDroidLenin altered the worlview view of socialism significantly, both by socialists and capitalists
16:51.42MonetBefore the revolution she lived comfortably and her father was a middle-class pahrmacist who took his family on frequent foreign holoidays.
16:52.09MonetAfter Lenin came to power, the family pharmacy was nationalised and they were all put into social housing
16:53.36MonetWhich was nothing like the home she grew up in
16:54.27MonetSo she may have come to associate collectivism with those kinds of conditions. After all she was only 12 in 1917
16:55.51MonetAnd Lenin effectively destroyed her prior lifestyle.
16:58.19ImpyDroidYa
17:02.18DrodoEmpirehttp://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/oct08/SL_HistoryREVISEDrps.jpg
17:03.56XhoOluapWorker: Do you want me to name Madiiraxaven's province or do you want to do it
17:04.20MonetLooking at a documentary by Adam Curtis though, it's scary how, acoording to a Library of Congress survey, Atlas Shrugged had become the second most influential book in the US by at least early 1990.
17:04.41OluapWorkerYou should do it
17:04.46OluapWorkerYou know the Order better than me
17:05.53XhoIf you can't think of what to write on Madiiraxaven's page just make her a pageless character
17:06.07Hachimannon
17:06.17HachimanNeeds page for hypersexual sexy cultist lady
17:06.18ImpyDroidhttp://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/art-%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD-%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5-%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B5-%D0%94%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82-%D0%92%D1%8D%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80-522065.png
17:06.41Hachimandat kerrigan
17:07.08XhoI've named the province 'Paarosasekatvas' and the patron deity is called 'Amuvasaq'
17:07.17XhoSo I guess it's a hypersexual orgy god
17:10.30OluapWorkerIt's actually just Hamoins
17:11.07OluapWorkerImp go work on the Fog War before u get send to the gulag
17:11.15XhoVultusk - not so bad we guess
17:11.37OluapWorkerI can't make her page yet since I don't have a history or a race in mind yet
17:11.46OluapWorkerI don't really know what lives in the Order of the Black Sun
17:11.55OluapWorkerOther than flesh golems like Vultusk
17:12.22XhoVultusk is the only one of his type in the Order to be honest
17:12.33XhoUndead roam the streets like normal civilians
17:12.49XhoThough they tend to vary in cognitive function
17:12.50OluapWorkerSo it's a faction of random undead
17:13.00XhoYou get living in there as well
17:13.34OluapWorkerdis is info that is requires in paeg
17:13.36OluapWorkerfinish paeg
17:13.40Xhoim gettin round to it u dum
17:13.40OluapWorkerrequired*
17:13.59XhoThere's a specific race of beings called Xaartolxand who are, I guess totally indeterminate in characteristics
17:14.17ImperiosOluapWorker: Yes my master, I shall get to work posthaste
17:14.23XhoDeiwos I'd imagine is the closest they are
17:14.31OluapWorkerI read that in a very raspy voice
17:14.39XhoBut no you get all kinds of races in there
17:15.29ImperiosI actually say something like this to most people of the same social status as me who boss me around
17:15.41XhoThe only thing is that all of them tend to become pale-skinned or dull-skinned
17:15.50OluapWorkerOne idea I had was that bitch-lady is a half-succubus who got assimilated into the Order and somehow became priestess, probably by killing and bedding people to get the position
17:15.54OluapWorkerOften a combination of both
17:15.55ImperiosIt worked for everyone before I started dating Veronica
17:16.15Imperios...Because when I said "Yes my mistress" she was suddenly turned on
17:16.15XhoVultusk - slept with us once           did not expect a round 2
17:16.37XhoSleeping with Vultusk       urgh
17:16.48OluapWorkerMadiiraxaven - tried that              too many dongs
17:17.34OluapWorkerI imagine Madiiraxaven is weary of Vultusk if anything, random violent murder is not a good way to organize carnal parties
17:18.00XhoAll of the High Priests are wary/afraid of Vultusk
17:18.12OluapWorkerwary, weary, WAAAA
17:18.21XhoCaedes isn't but Caedes is too cloudcuckoolander to realise that Vultusk is dangerous
17:19.01XhoI've actually stated that Vultusk's city has had wooden defences built around it so that the crazies don't escape
17:19.16XhoAnd that getting sent there is often a subsitute for a death sentene from other High Priests
17:19.21Xhosentence*
17:19.26MonetOnly wooden?
17:19.40XhoOrder of the Black Sun has very primitive tech as far as it goes
17:19.47XhoWell not overtly primitive
17:19.48OluapWorkerWould Vultusk even prove a threat to Caedes?
17:19.57XhoPotentially
17:20.23MonetI was going ot say, would have been funny if it turns out VUltusk City's crazy population all had a pathological fear of drystone walls.
17:20.25XhoCaedes controls the entire magical warp of the city though Vultusk has his ways of doing things
17:20.40MonetOr even a pathological fear of wooden fences.
17:20.54XhoMonet: Let's just say there's not many individuals who can bash through a wooden wall
17:21.21XhoThough invasions from Vultusk's city are usually stopped quite quickly because his civilians have little clue what they're doing
17:21.47Monet"Wait are we under attack? I trhought it was tourist season"
17:21.55XhoThat's pretty much it
17:22.16XhoThe society in Vultusk's city is that the top dog is the one who has lived the longest and fought off the most
17:22.28XhoIt's a respectful position though you can imagine it changes hands fast
17:22.58XhoVultusk doesn't care though, more bodies for him to experiment with
17:25.25XhoIf the Order of the Black Sun was the USA, Vultusk's city would be Detroit
17:28.03MonetNasti
17:28.20ImperiosMonet: What is that space oil resource from the Fictionverse that Charles came up with?
17:28.26ImperiosAndasium, right?
17:28.32Wormy_May the fourth be with you http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32583555
17:29.15OluapWorkerI take I should be as depraved as possible when writing about the Order
17:29.32XhoNot completely depraved
17:29.36XhoBut quite depraved yes
17:29.51MonetImperios: Yes
17:29.59XhoThere are universal laws in the Order such as rules against murder and stealing
17:30.02XhoThat's about it though
17:30.18XhoAnd obviously not all of them follow those laws eiher
17:30.19OluapWorkerI'll wait until you write about it to be sure then
17:30.19Xhoeither
17:31.08MonetImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andasium
17:31.37MonetAndasium is the raw material, ansite is the refined product.
17:33.10ImperiosMy understanding is that it is more effective than other energy sources, and also much cheaper, right?
17:33.43MonetIts cheapness is its primary selling point
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17:34.19MonetHypermatter might still be surperior in terms of energy output but its much harder to get
17:34.21dinohellow
17:34.25MonetHello
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17:36.01dino82_back, somehow it really annoys always putting the 82 behind the dino, never had to that that before 2015 ah well
17:36.03dino82_how is alldo ing?
17:36.42OluapWorkerhey dino
17:37.22MonetHello
17:40.01GhelaeHello.
17:40.05XhoSo
17:40.15dino82_hello!
17:40.22dino82_Saw some nice new creatures and a temple!
17:40.23XhoWho wants to have parts of their species as a member of the Order of the Black Sun
17:40.27dino82_Impressive works!
17:41.10OluapWorkerI'm not sure if I have any
17:41.13OluapWorkerOther than Smeevers hur
17:41.21XhoSmeevers would work to be honest
17:41.24HachimanWhere is the Order primarily located?
17:41.30ImperiosMonet: Because it is not naturally occuring, right?
17:41.33XhoLemme see
17:41.44OluapWorkerisn't it in the mountains above the Shiarchon?
17:41.46MonetImperios: Right.
17:42.05XhoIt is built upon the edge of the Southern Mountains
17:42.06Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1776
17:42.21XhoIt's the capital northwest of Khor
17:42.30MonetXho: I guess some Draonoggr could be drawn to it, being self-centred and all.
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17:42.47HachimanGonna be hard for many species to live there cus Shiarchon and stuff
17:42.51OluapWorkeri was rite
17:42.57HachimanGonna be difficult getting to it I mean
17:43.14XhoActually 99% of the time it's the Order dragging lots of people into their cities
17:43.18XhoThough the Shiarchon are unaware of them
17:43.42XhoEither that or they are aware of them and they're creeped out by them
17:43.57MonetSome Draonoggr might prefer the Order, as in the Domain, you're pretty much the bitch of whoever's bigger and more influential than you.
17:44.12OluapWorkerMadiiraxaven is actually a Smeever
17:44.20XhoVultusk - 0/10
17:44.43MonetThe High Archon spends most of his time napping and still manages to remain on top.
17:46.02MonetLargely because no one's gonna argue wit a 100 ton dragon the size of a block of flats with the largest dragonsworn cult in the domain.
17:46.11XhoVultusk - get dafuq outta my city
17:46.41MonetHigh Archon - Later.
17:46.48HachimanSuppose that Black Sun could have Idkin that have been separated from the rest of the faction and have been "tamed" as such
17:46.58HachimanAlongside Aithrena and Khahurnim elves
17:47.02XhoVultusk - tamed        lol why the heck would we do that
17:47.20HachimanChin-Chaac has them hur
17:47.20XhoI'm getting the idea that the Xaartolxand race are tall Deiwos like creatures whose main features are obscured
17:47.26MonetActually I guess another factor is larger and older Dronoggr tend ot be more innately potent with the Source.
17:48.31MonetSO as well as all that, the High Archon can raze entire city districts on his own.
17:48.32dino82_brb
17:50.46MonetCome t othink of it, the High Archon's power might be one of the only reasons the Orocathi Domain is one.state
17:51.01MonetIt's pretty much a kratocracy in every sense of the word
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17:55.26XhoI've added the Skeltasdraskeli as well but now I only have 3 notable species
17:55.29XhoPlusthe
17:55.31XhoGah
17:55.41XhoPlus the Xaartolxand which makes it four
17:55.47OluapWorkerSkeltasdraskeli
17:55.52OluapWorkerThese wandered off a lot
17:55.59Imperioshttp://cs624820.vk.me/v624820729/30c87/jhfzzWfPOtw.jpg Troll
17:56.15OluapWorkerActually no, the Dynasty has territories in the south
17:56.24OluapWorkerForgot that for a moment
17:56.27XhoThe Order does go pretty much all over the world in its endeavours to grab whoever they can find
17:56.33OluapWorkerolol
17:56.43MonetXho: They can have some Draonoggr then
17:56.49Xhorite
17:56.55XhoI need to find a mini pic for a Drao
17:57.02MonetAh.
17:57.11MonetGive me five minutes
17:57.11OluapWorkerOrder - we got a couple shiarchon               they're levelling the city but we got a couple
17:57.27XhoThey probably do have Shiarchon there as well
17:57.36XhoShiarchon defectors anyway
17:57.47XhoHas probably caused some problems with the Legion if that is the case
17:57.56OluapWorkerShiarchon - from caligaduro to caligaduro under a crazier name
17:58.15XhoMy god the Shiarchon mini is outdated
17:59.33OluapWorkerYou updated your models more than I'm willing to update the minis
17:59.47OluapWorkerThe kicath one was a few years outdated until this weekend
18:00.11Xhodat bad
18:00.17Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11203105_10153042401399998_7352652164302949794_n.png?oh=f62ba1222c6ceb0d3b6089716fef1e75&oe=55C227C0 "UNDERCOVER pedophiles are the best pedophiles"
18:00.47OluapWorkerhur
18:02.14MonetXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:MiniDraonoggr.png there
18:02.57MonetSky draonoggr might be the hardest for the Order to get because they're hardly ever seen anymore
18:03.35Charles_Murrayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/56QhP4A
18:04.03Xhotanks
18:04.04MonetThe Ancient One from Forgotten Lands is one so that makes the group super-duper-4-leaf-clover-horseshoe lucky.
18:04.41HachimanSo wait wait
18:05.01HachimanApparently all the fruit and vegetable foodstuffs we buy can be classified as clones
18:05.23OluapWorkerTasty, edible clones
18:05.30OluapWorkerIf you're into vegetables that is
18:05.39Monethttp://i.imgur.com/nw81WHW.jpg this was from Red Dwarf
18:05.54HachimanI am more of a fruit man than a vegetable guy
18:06.08HachimanRed apples are <3
18:06.09OluapWorkerur a fruit
18:06.41Hachimantank u <3 im ur little fruitcake <3
18:06.52OluapWorkerfuk offfffffffffFFFFFFFFF
18:07.14MonetHachiman: I'd say you're right, yes
18:07.37HachimanLike, how is that possible
18:07.54OluapWorkerTechnologies
18:07.59MonetNature
18:09.57MonetGregor Mendel developed the foundational understanding of inheritance based on how he could grow identical pea plants
18:10.41MonetIt's also an effect of crop monoculture.
18:12.56MonetWhen fruit, vegetables and grains are grown, the traditional technique was to use the seeds form the last harvest. However because farm plots are often wide tracts of the samsingle species, it could be that its easier for insects to collect pollen from all the plants in that one field
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18:22.07Tek0516:O
18:22.07MonetTake that anti-GMO activists!
18:26.29Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Order_of_the_Black_Sun Well that's been updated quite a bit
18:32.26XhoI was gonna put it so that Caedes was the wearer of the Visage of the Drowned Dreamer but Caedes is hard to write about
18:33.02OluapWorkeru done goofed
18:33.34OluapWorkeru also steal ma layout almost
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18:35.18GhelaeHello.
18:35.23Aeohi
18:35.51HachimanWell now I have come to a problem
18:35.59OluapWorkerur life
18:36.11HachimanFiguring out ~19,000 years of history for the Khahurnim and Khaepsha-ultan
18:37.13HachimanLike how the Hell am I going to do this hur
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18:37.35JepardiHi
18:37.54GhelaeHello.
18:38.49OluapWorkerYou don't have to come up with a list of all the things they did in all years ever
18:38.58OluapWorkerJust the most relevant stuff is enough
18:40.05OluapWorkerYou could come up with 15,000 years of history for the Khàrmurvahan Dwarves, you can do 19,000 of history for the Khahurnim
18:41.50OluapWorkerXho: Where in Xittaasekatvas can Paarosasekatvas be located?
18:46.59XhoAnywhere hur
18:47.06XhoI haven't had a particular layout in mind for it
18:47.15XhoJust not in the centre is all
18:47.32OluapWorkerrite
18:56.33OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Order_of_the_Black_Sun#Provinces dere, wrote about sex-topia
18:58.57HachimanBest city
18:59.01HachimanVery nice job
19:01.09Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/95/Impere.png/revision/latest?cb=20100423065715 Must be one of the first flags I made huy
19:01.23OluapWorkerCROWN
19:02.14OluapWorkerHachi visits Paarosasekatvas
19:02.19OluapWorkerHis butt was never the same since
19:02.23Hachimanhur
19:02.51ImperiosBut secretly
19:02.53ImperiosHe enjoyed it
19:03.07HachimanWould not surprise me
19:03.48OluapWorkerfukin fagit
19:04.41OluapWorkerI'm pretty confident Hamoins visits the city every once in a while
19:05.01OluapWorkerShe's the rare golden egg people are always looking for
19:05.40Hachimanhur
19:05.57ImperiosJavina and Lekren visit and kill everything with their combined prudishness
19:06.16HachimanAll of these wondrous places and Hachi cannot visit any of them without getting bollocked by Clothovera hur
19:08.17OluapWorkerAll of these one places
19:09.57ImperiosLekren - GROSS INDECENCY
19:09.59HachimanCastle Nightshade, Paarosasekatvas
19:10.34ImperiosJavina - INFERIOR DEGENERATES dat booty tho
19:10.40XhoVultusk - visit our city pls
19:10.51XhoOluapWorker: noice add
19:10.55OluapWorkerIf Hachi goes to Castle Nightshade he has a fair chance of being eaten alive by a werepyre/manticore
19:11.02OluapWorkerOr particularly hungry vampire of any race
19:11.16HachimanCrux - y̷̧͘͝e̸̴̡͠s̷͘͟͞
19:11.52HachimanI would have thought Hachi would have been more welcome considering he helped depose the Countess and Zran Kar and restore Varelos' reign
19:12.09OluapWorkerNot every vampire is aware of who he is hur
19:12.36HachimanFair enough hur
19:12.59OluapWorkerI imagine there are many vampires across the world who don't even know Varelos exists
19:13.47ImperiosSo rebel factions
19:14.00ImperiosDo they all revere Zran though? (not counting Varelos's loyalists)
19:14.17OluapWorkerNot rebel
19:14.31OluapWorkerI mean vampires with no faction at all
19:15.42OluapWorkerthe Nightshade Clan is not big or influential enough to have control over every vampire in the world
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19:18.17Imperios...Why do people think Muhammad is evil incarnate just because he married a minor? It was common practice during the Middle Ages
19:18.22Imperios(yes that was totally random)
19:18.30OluapWorkerfog war nagnagnag
19:19.07HachimanJesus' mother was barely a teen
19:20.30Imperios^ that
19:20.34ImperiosHypocrisy m8
19:21.22GhelaeYeah; God had a child by her and didn't even marry her.
19:21.30GhelaeThat's completely against the rules of their religion.
19:22.45MonetImperios: Modern perceptions
19:23.18ImperiosYes but I don't understand why we judge some people by modern standards and some by their contemporary standards
19:23.38MonetCould be familiarity.
19:24.01MonetWe're more used to modern standards.
19:24.28MonetThat and, well, human collecties are irrational in general
19:24.50ImperiosOkay I just do not get why people hate Muslims so in Europe
19:24.58MonetCould also be that the contemporary standards are also the standards that are commonly known.
19:25.44MonetI didn't know until just now that Muhammed married a child, and I can see why that might be offensive to modern audiences.
19:26.07ImperiosCould be the fact that my grandparents were born in a mostly Muslim land, but still, I didn't have quarrels with them outside that annoying little Croatian girl that used to ship me and Alyona
19:26.50ImperiosI remember visiting a mosque once, I was honestly surprised that they let me in, Wikipedia states the mosque I visited is forbidden for heathens to visit hur
19:27.35MonetThough if I were to hazard a guess as to the anti-muslim sentiment, I'd nail it down ot two people: Osama Bin Laden and Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
19:27.57ImperiosDem dicks
19:28.16MonetThough the Taliban in general could qualify.
19:28.36ImperiosWell TBH the USA and the USSR helped movements like this to form, so Muslims are not necessarily to blame for them
19:28.56ImperiosI am pretty sure the USA originally backed the Taliban to get an army to fight the Soviets
19:29.05ImperiosCould be Putin's propaganda though
19:29.16GhelaeThat seems familiar to me.
19:29.28GhelaeAlthough not necessarily specifically the Taliban.
19:29.29MonetI've seen "USA backed the Taliban" used by anti-establishment conpiracy nuts though.
19:29.47ImperiosWell the USA and the USSR backed rebels everywhere, so it's not completely far-fatched
19:29.53ImperiosIf it wasn't the USA, it could be us
19:29.57MonetWe only really started hating them after they started planting bombs and hijacking airliners.
19:30.00ImperiosYep
19:30.20ImperiosIronically, the modern problems with Muslims actually have something to do with *secularisation* in Muslim countries
19:30.37ImperiosMustafa Kemal in particular
19:30.38GhelaeBut even if people were to accept that as a valid reason to not hate Muslims (let's face it; if they're hating an entire religious group based on the actions of a minority they're not exactly being rational)
19:30.43Ghelaehow many of them know about it?
19:31.16MonetAnd the "Muslims are suicide bombers" that was, again Muslim radicals.
19:31.25MonetFor one, Islam condemns suicide like that.
19:31.40ImperiosI like the Islamic punishment for suicide actually hur
19:32.04ImperiosBasically their depictions of hell describe people who commit suicide as experiencing the moment of their demise over and over
19:32.10MonetAnd the whole "72 virgins" thing? Isn't that basically being sent to a room full of women you are never allowed to touch?
19:32.44ImperiosIt comes from the more apocryphal sources actually
19:32.48ImperiosThink [citation needed]
19:33.11MonetI figured for a while it couldn't have been in original scriptures
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19:34.09Monet"Our faith frowns on casual sex, but when you die you will spend eternity in a place with many available women"
19:34.20Monet"who aren't married"
19:34.34MonetYeah sounds a bit stupid to be in the early texts
19:34.41ImperiosI remember seeing a book where it is stated the virgin thing could come from an incorrectly translated scripture from a *Christian* book that Muhammad borrowed stuff from
19:34.52MonetLike you said, could be a way to exploit the growing secularisation i nmuslim countries
19:35.46ImperiosYep
19:35.49MonetIslam, as I said, frowns on casual sex. But in modern Western society there's immense social pressure, especially around young men, against being a virgin.
19:36.09ImperiosIt's actually more complex than that, about secularisation
19:36.16MonetMAybe
19:36.21ImperiosYou see, Islam originally had a Pope-like figure
19:36.42MonetThis was my understanding of how the escularisation *could* have been epxloited.
19:36.45Monetbut go on
19:36.46HachimanZzz
19:36.46ImperiosWhich doubled as a royal title, so... think Iovera basically
19:36.57ImperiosHachiman: Feel the power of ALLAHU AKBAR
19:37.30MonetThe Caliphs ,right?
19:37.36ImperiosYa
19:37.50OluapWorkerhow bout u feel the power of editing fog war
19:38.27MonetAnd if I recall, ISIS' current leader dubs himself a caliph.
19:38.30ImperiosUntil the 20th century, the Ottoman Sultan, as the most OP dude in the Middle East, carried on that title and the ultimate religious authority, and Mustafa Kemal even thought of keeping the Sultan's relative as Caliph as a purely ceremonial figure, but eventually decided to dispose of it to fully secularise the country
19:38.47ImperiosAnd since then there is not true religious authority in Islam, hence the many zealots
19:38.53ImperiosYep, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
19:39.08GhelaeAbu wants to be Muslim Pope-King.
19:39.15ImperiosGhelae gets it
19:40.45MonetSo the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and the foundation of Turkey meant there was no pope-analogue for Muslim communities ot follow.
19:41.29MonetAll because its first president decided to have Turkey follow a secular system.
19:41.39MonetWell...maybe not all
19:43.20MonetAnd as Caliph, whatever Abu says should be interpreted as divine mandate, but that depends o nhow much influence he has over non-ISIS muslims.
19:44.35ImperiosFrom what I've gathered from the Internet, they think he's a Jew
19:44.36MonetBut I take it because of this period where there was no firm line of caliphs, Abu has to rely on force to impose his mandate because he doesn't have a line of prior caliphs to back his legitimacy
19:44.59ImperiosOr an American spy or something like this
19:45.19MonetEssentially he's a man who claims himself king despite having no ties to a known bloodline.
19:46.04MonetAnd because he's putting his vision above the words of the Quran, every Muslim who isn't an ISIS fanatic hates him.
19:48.14ImpyDroidIn the Middle East, it is a popular theory that ISIS is secretly backed by Israel or the USA
19:48.23ImpyDroid...It is popular here too
19:49.00MonetImpyDroid: Essentially he's a man who claims himself king despite having no ties to a known bloodline. And because he's putting his vision above the words of the Quran, every Muslim who isn't an ISIS fanatic hates him.
19:49.12ImpyDroidYep
19:49.37MonetCalling him a Jew or an American spy, I can see those as apct ways of considering him the antichrist.
19:50.05MonetJust one teeny problem
19:50.49MonetI've heard radio reports of a German man who managed to venture in and out of Isis territory and he mentions what ISIS ultimately wants is a fight against NATO forces.
19:51.21ImpyDroidI guess they are suicidal
19:51.21MonetThey've gotten cocky fighting Syria and Iraq, and now they want ot spill US Army blood.
19:51.27ImpyDroidHur
19:51.41ImpyDroidYou know maybe that's how we could mend our ways
19:51.46GhelaeIIRC, the idea is that they want to bring about the Islamic apocalypse, with themselves (of course) of the good side.
19:52.03MonetGhelae: Typical zealot logic
19:52.39MonetImpyDroid: Going WWII and having a joint US-Russia coalition against maniacs?
19:52.45ImpyDroidYep
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19:53.09ImpyDroidAnd then we'll take Kiev while you are not looking >:)
19:53.31GhelaeIf the idea is that they want to have an end-of-the-world battle against Christendom, that's also exactly what ISIS would want too.
19:53.49GhelaeWhether or not Russia takes Kiev in the process being a moot point. :P
19:54.20MonetGhelae: SO essentialy we beat them by giving them what they want?
19:54.21Comrade_VinnyNah nah nah, you've got it all wrong guys... -_-
19:54.27ImpyDroidWhich is funny, because the Islamic apocalypse story is largely identical to the Christian one, and, you know, involves Christ hur
19:54.31Comrade_VinnyIt's LIBERATING Kiev!
19:54.33MonetI'm a little concerned with that plan. We've spent 10 years fighting the Taliban, and the best we've managed is liberating Afghanistan from them.
19:55.11ImpyDroidComrade_Vinny: We protect Kiev from evil fascist Banderovets military dictatorship
19:55.34ImpyDroidGay American dictatorship, even
19:55.50Comrade_VinnyDon't forget the Illuminatis!
19:55.54MonetHistory has taught us that defeating terrorists from shooting them doesn't see mto work very well.
19:55.56GhelaeGiving them what they want isn't in itself what would defeat them, and yes, given previous activity in that part of the world the military side seems unlikely to be successful either.
19:56.00Monetby shooting them*
19:56.54MonetI would have been all for a media blackout on ISIS.
19:57.36ImpyDroidThen again by attacking them we will have the population turn against us
19:57.36GhelaeShooting terrorists does tend to *individually* defeat them, but more of them are going to keep on coming unless you a) destroy the entire population or b) make for a... non-fanatigenic environment.
19:57.53Ghelae"Fanatigenic" being a word I just made up for something that tends to produce fanatics.
19:57.54ImpyDroidSo instead we could raise an army from the natives
19:58.35HachimanAre we still talking about terrorism
19:58.39HachimanHow boring
19:59.05GhelaeYou could always start another topic.
19:59.39ImpyDroidAlright
19:59.54ImpyDroidhttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5r4qoQ8FsV-RFJLR1JtVlpXOG8/edit?usp=docslist_api Look what I saw near the Hermitage today
20:00.29ImpyDroidNot sure what is better, the pink fur hats or the glorious Putin shirts
20:00.37MonetHachiman: I don't complain whenever Feminazism or fandom hate is discussed here for long stretches of time.
20:01.13HachimanMonet: I do not like discussing Feminazism or fandom hate hur
20:01.20HachimanAs bizarre as it sounds
20:01.34ImpyDroidBut it is you who bring it up hur
20:01.54ImpyDroidSpeaking of which, I saw a rather stupid shop today
20:02.04OluapWorkerAll I have to say is nagnagnagnag
20:02.11Hachimancan u not
20:02.23HachimanWhat was in the shop?
20:02.23ImpyDroidIt sold Victory Day shirts, but only half of them were related to the war
20:02.35HachimanThe hell
20:02.45ImpyDroidThe other half featured Putin on them and read "I am Putin's friend"
20:02.58ImpyDroidSeriously that was Nazi as fuck hur
20:04.30HachimanSo Imp
20:04.37HachimanDo you support Putin or
20:04.52ImpyDroidNeutral
20:04.55HachimanBecause you should
20:05.01HachimanHe will know if you are not with him
20:05.32ImpyDroidCompetent but not a genius, his image is severely overblown both by us and by you
20:06.07Comrade_VinnyImpyDroid`The Hermitage? You live in saint Putinsburg? ^.^
20:06.28ImpyDroidAye, the Vasilyevski Island
20:06.42Hachimaninb4 putingradt
20:06.51ImpyDroidWell he is from here
20:07.11Comrade_VinnyI preferede the old name ^^
20:07.18MonetImpyDroid: How bougois
20:07.30Monetbourgeois*
20:08.24ImpyDroidEssentially yes
20:09.04MonetI wonder what's less egotistical, founding a city and naming it after yourself, or renaming an established to include your ow nname?
20:09.27ImpyDroidLenin did not rename Petrograd, Stalin did
20:10.32MonetI know that
20:10.48MonetI thought Vinny was talking about Stalin for a moment
20:11.12MonetSince I assumed "old name" = Stalingrad
20:11.21Comrade_VinnyNah
20:11.56Comrade_VinnyStalingrad was Volgograd
20:12.26ImpyDroidFrankly, considering that I just badmouthed Putin on our city's main street today, I should probably fear for my life hur
20:12.46ImpyDroid...or not, I am beneath notice nor did I it for provocation
20:12.56ImpyDroid*I do it
20:13.03MonetNow I'm glad I live in England, where many of our cities still bear their Medieval or Roman names.
20:13.32ImpyDroidWe have one Roman Imperial city
20:13.40ImpyDroidOr rather a Byzantine one
20:13.43ImpyDroidSevastopol
20:13.49ImpyDroidSevastopol = Sebastopolis
20:14.03MonetThat sort of transformation is the only exception
20:14.19MonetFor instance, Jorvik = York. Londinium = London
20:14.43XhoClausentum = Southampton
20:14.43Xhowait
20:15.34MonetMaybe the translation is similar?
20:18.23MonetOnly a few industrial towns got renamed.
20:19.34MonetI was going to say, technically the UK is ruled fro mthe city of Westminster, rather than London
20:20.22MonetBut then I remembered that mention of "westminster" in UK news virtually always means "the place where all the politicians are"
20:20.58MonetWheras mention of London is often used to refer to the City of London.
20:21.51MonetIf Westminster is "the place where all the politiians are" City of London is "the place where all the bankers are"
20:22.49MonetAll because William of Normandy coudn't penetrate Londinium's city walls
20:45.26Wormy_Back
20:48.02Wormy_Snottingham = Nottingham
20:48.16Wormy_Literally that was how the Vikings named it.
20:49.10Wormy_They were called the "Snot people"
20:52.51Wormy_STOnew ships https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9224253
20:58.57XhoThere's someone on my Facebook feed who keeps referring to this other person as 'best friend'
20:59.02XhoI'm getting a little scared for her
20:59.21Technobliteratorwhy?
20:59.49XhoIt's a little creepy if you ask me
21:00.02XhoLiterally every status is referring to her as 'best friend'
21:00.46XhoThere's also another girl here who looks like her face has sort of melted
21:00.50XhoOr drooped a bit
21:00.57XhoI dunno it's not a pretty sight anyway
21:04.06Technobliteratornow I'm wondering how those two are related
21:04.07Technobliterator:  |
21:07.39XhoIt's on my Facebook feed
21:07.40XhoThat's how
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21:21.30DrodoEmpireBack!
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21:46.14Wormy_STOthis and all the links beneath http://imgur.com/gallery/56QhP4A
21:55.26Wormy_STOlol http://i.imgur.com/5KwxdHU.gif
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21:58.23The_RandomnessHello
21:58.58ExternalHey.
22:00.28Technobliteratoroh, I almost forgot
22:00.38*** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || May the Fourth be with you!
22:00.43Technobliteratorhi random
22:01.09Wormy_STOhttp://imgur.com/gallery/CsD1fNG
22:02.50ExternalWhat's so special about the fourth?
22:03.23Wormy_STOblue screen of dog http://imgur.com/gallery/fcINwJy
22:03.44Wormy_STO"May the *Force* be with you"
22:04.11Externalo
22:05.18Externalhttp://i.imgur.com/4wPp78L.gif
22:09.36ExternalAeo: http://imgur.com/gallery/DceeHI6 ---looks good
22:10.16Wormy_STOhttp://imgur.com/gallery/IQh2FVA   http://imgur.com/gallery/VkIy54h
22:16.36ExternalWormy_STO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w&feature=youtu.be
22:18.10Wormy_STOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB871SVYMhI
22:25.55Externalwhat da fuk
22:29.23Comrade_VinnyHi External, nice to meet you :)
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22:41.30ExternalHey.
22:46.42ExternalMonet Jepardi: https://www.facebook.com/HilariousCrazyVines/videos/415514361984241/
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22:48.40ExternalCyrannian: https://www.facebook.com/HilariousCrazyVines/videos/415514361984241/
22:49.10HachimanHai Cyr
22:49.28CyrannianHai
22:49.38MonetExternal:Asshole cop
22:50.10MonetAll flyin in with his cop car and blowing' the PC's brains out.
22:50.26ExternalFucking damned cops
22:50.31ExternalGotta ruin the streak
22:50.39ExternalAND THEY EVEN RUINED IT WITH STYLE
22:50.47ExternalFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...
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22:58.41AdmiralPandahi all
22:58.47HachimanHai
22:59.15Cyrannian_Hai
22:59.19The_RandomnessHello
22:59.32Cyrannian_For those interested, SWTOR is doing a 12x XP event until the Autumn for subscribers, allowing you to level up simply by playing the class missions.
23:00.49MonetThat's....A crapton of XP
23:01.34MonetNow that I'm almost done with my first year though I can give it a shot
23:02.26CyrannianAye, I'm planning on doing the same, all those side quests get a bit tedious after a while
23:03.50MonetFor me some of the dialogue makes up for it
23:04.33CyrannianBoth the male and female agents have very sexy voices alright
23:06.21MonetWell of course
23:06.28MonetThey're British lol
23:07.15ExternalMy voice is sexier. Because I am Puerto Rican.
23:08.00ExternalTAKE DAT BICH
23:08.10Wormy_STO*Bitch
23:09.18MonetBitch please. 9/10 villains prove otherwise
23:09.30External*BITCH
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23:09.59Wormy_STOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fGglrJwy6Q
23:10.36Wormy_STOMore focused, more precise.
23:10.40Wormy_STOhi
23:13.27Wormy_STOMore smashing.
23:13.39CyrannianI was going to make a Geordie Shore reference but decided against it
23:22.33ExternalCyrannian: Can I make a character in the ATR?
23:25.42CyrannianWhat did you have in mind?
23:29.01Cyrannianhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150504152408/starwars/images/0/02/Kylo_ren.jpg - dat stylish villain doe
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23:30.12ExternalCyrannian: Typically an ex-captain or such within the ATR army, and explores for a living.
23:30.40CyrannianSure, that sounds alright
23:31.45Charles_Murrayo.o That's similar to a character I was going to make
23:32.12ExternalToo late. The deed is done.
23:33.06Charles_Murray:(
23:33.38DrodoEmpirepoints and laughs at Charles
23:33.40Wormy_STOhttp://i.imgur.com/UsfrwnI.gif
23:36.05MonetVader! Dude, that's your daughter!
23:39.03DrodoEmpireeww
23:40.06Wormy_STONot uncommon in the Star Wars universe.
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23:40.28TekDroidHello
23:40.41Wormy_STOhi
23:40.43dinoman9877Not the other dino! This will be how I introduce myself from now on!
23:41.38Wormy_STOThe other dino uses a lot of exclamation marks though, just so you know.
23:41.45The_Randomnessheh
23:41.58dinoman9877Okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:42.19DrodoEmpirehur
23:43.04Wormy_STOis already confused
23:43.09TekDroidO.o
23:43.37dinoman9877So my existence has caused confusion? Good to know.
23:44.07dinoman9877That would explain a lot actually.
23:45.24Wormy_STOMust be pretty odd to join an IRC channel only to find lots of confused faces everytime.
23:46.05Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/kseJjFZ.png?1 So I tried remaking Khaepsha-ultan's Pharaoh Khyannarith
23:46.12HachimanKhyannarith the Deathless even
23:46.33Hachimanhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/95/Pharaoh_Khyannarith.png/revision/latest?cb=20150206231557 This was the previous model
23:46.46dinoman9877Okay, besides the obvious, being the cheat to turn off the complexity meter and having a better graphics card than me, HOW DO PEOPLE MAKE SUCH AMAZING MODELS?!
23:46.51HachimanI much prefer the newer one myself
23:47.00HachimanI actually do not turn off the complexity meter
23:47.04dinoman9877...
23:47.10HachimanDarkspore parts just do not register on the complexity meter
23:47.15HachimanStandard parts do though
23:47.22dinoman9877Darkspore parts?
23:47.28dinoman9877What?
23:47.33HachimanYeah, from the Dark Injection mod
23:47.49TekDroidPractice and creative placement of parts is the main one if you don’t turn it off.
23:48.00HachimanAye
23:48.01dinoman9877Ah. Mods.
23:48.07dinoman9877That would explain a lot.
23:48.08HachimanEven with the Darkspore mod you gotta practice a lot
23:48.15HachimanDark Injection even
23:48.37dinoman9877Well my swarmlings take up quite a bit of complexity and they look...'meh' at best.
23:48.55dinoman9877It's because I gave them six limbs, I bet. -.-
23:49.06HachimanIt is probably due to my masculine anime obsession but I keep wanting to put pecs and such on my male creatures to make them look buff and fit
23:49.13TekDroidGood models take a lot of thinking outside the box regarding the usage of parts.
23:49.19Wormy_STOA trick I use to slow complexity is hold down the asymmetry key and pull out a copy of the shape.
23:49.38MonetHachiman: The new armour looks a lot more elegant
23:49.52HachimanAye
23:50.05Wormy_STOYeah nice models
23:50.33Wormy_STOEspecially the helmet, head clothing is hard to make
23:50.41dinoman9877I've tried think out of the box before. I've made saber teeth and other odds and ends but...
23:50.47dinoman9877I can't make realism!
23:51.36Wormy_STOAlso in the spaceship editor (you probably know all this), there is a hidden set of basic parts that cost nearly nothing at the end.
23:51.52The_RandomnessHidden?
23:51.58dinoman9877Que?
23:52.21Wormy_STOIts not really hidden but most people don't notice it straight away.
23:52.48Wormy_STOhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2e/Spaceship_Editor.png/revision/latest?cb=20110707233706
23:52.56Wormy_STOOn the shell there's a second page
23:53.10dinoman9877http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cd/Spore_2014-12-04_23-25-25.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/400?cb=20141205042649 But I mean look at these. Nothing like the other stuff I see in the fictions!
23:53.31The_RandomnessOh
23:53.37The_RandomnessThat's not hidden :p
23:53.39Wormy_STOAlo in the spaceship editor I rarely if ever use the cockpits or ready-made parts, as they are oversized and cost a lot
23:53.40dinoman9877Those are hidden?
23:54.14Wormy_STONot literally hidden I guess but a lot of people don't notice it
23:54.45TekDroidMost of us get our better models as a result of years of messing around in the editor, and even then some of them are the results of several interations of models over the years.
23:54.47dinoman9877Well no one uses it because they're all just geometrical shapes.
23:55.13HachimanThere is a lot you can do with geometric shapes
23:55.17Wormy_STO^
23:55.19TekDroidThat's where resizing and overlap comes in
23:55.49HachimanAs a man who has studied 3D modelling, geometric shapes are incredibly versatile if you know to use them
23:55.50Wormy_STOPlus they cost hardly any complexity so you can use them a heckload (and aren't stuck around a central pivot)
23:56.19TekDroidMake a block that sticks out of another slightly and suddenly of have a nice accent.
23:58.06Wormy_STODidn't know you studied 3D, so have I
23:58.29Wormy_STOI made the awful mistake of modelling like Spore in Maya once
23:58.38TekDroidlol
23:58.45The_Randomnessoh gosh
23:58.59MonetWhoopslol
23:59.02Wormy_STOUsing lots of meshes jumbled together.  Turned out its bad for game engines because of hidden faces and whatnot.
23:59.15The_RandomnessI'm guessing z-fighting was also an issue
23:59.30Wormy_STOyeah

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