IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150503

`00:00.14`	`TekDroid`	`...did Wikia use to have ads? Or am I just used to browsing it on my PC with Adblock?`
`00:00.40`	`Technobliterator`	`it's always had ads since its inception`
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`00:05.56`	`*** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ`
`00:06.10`	`The_Randomness`	`Hello`
`00:08.37`	`Technobliterator`	`hihi`
`00:16.29`	`Cyrannian`	`http://jurassicpark.wikia.com/wiki/Pteranodon - They have sexy tabs`
`00:17.38`	`Technobliterator`	`I hate pages relying on tab layout, but indeed, they do`
`00:17.46`	`Technobliterator`	`ours are so bland : \|`
`00:18.38`	`Cyrannian`	`I've moved away from using them for that reason`
`00:19.20`	`Technobliterator`	`there are specific instances I think tabs are useful, but this is not one of them`
`00:19.34`	`Technobliterator`	`anyway I shall sleep`
`00:19.36`	`Technobliterator`	`gnight all`
`00:20.10`	`Cyrannian`	`nightie night`
`00:29.49`	`Wormy_`	`Liquid_Ink, Cyrannian, Monet, anyone-else who might be interested http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Large_Magellanic_Cloud`
`00:30.08`	`Wormy_`	`not fully typo checked yet`
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`00:35.49`	`External`	`"Monet" was in my Captcha today.`
`00:36.41`	`Monet`	`Wormy_: Little preoccupied, sorry`
`00:41.10`	`Wormy_`	`https://imgur.com/gallery/lHEnBbH`
`00:42.46`	`External`	`Wormy_: Alright...I think IRC was down...maybe...`
`00:43.02`	`Wormy_`	`https://imgur.com/gallery/WhAIr`
`00:43.19`	`External`	`I couldn't join for the last 7 hours because the page never loaded right. It took half a second to load and the screen never showed right.`
`00:43.21`	`Wormy_`	`Been alright for me all day.`
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`01:23.46`	`External`	`I just noticed something`
`01:23.56`	`External`	`Planetside 2 makes a great human soldier customizer`
`01:24.03`	`External`	`I think I should use that instead`
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`01:33.14`	`External`	`Aeo: I left a message on that "Dedication is not Slavery" page. Nathierm feel inclined to oppress those ideas, so I just went with a rogue Drovar from the same empire.`
`01:57.05`	`External`	`I'm bored.`
`01:57.13`	`External`	`strikes Aeo`
`01:57.21`	`External`	`*Cause he's bored`
`01:58.18`	`Aeo`	`External Wormy_STO Thank you very much for leaving comments.`
`01:58.54`	`Aeo`	`sneaks up behind External and straps a magical collar around his neck, enslaving him.`
`01:59.32`	`External`	`Dammit`
`01:59.35`	`External`	`Check mate.`
`02:00.54`	`Aeo`	`:) Don't worry. I'm nice. Tek is also one of my slaves, and he can attest to it.`
`02:01.03`	`Aeo`	`~Aeo`
`02:01.03`	`infobot`	`[aeo] a shrew`
`02:01.10`	`Aeo`	`~Aeoneonatrix`
`02:01.10`	`infobot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, aeoneonatrix is the liberator of slaves and the slayer of the villainous.`
`02:01.15`	`Aeo`	`Fuck`
`02:01.18`	`Aeo`	`~Aeon`
`02:01.18`	`infobot`	`rumour has it, aeon is the secret slave master of the underworld`
`02:01.22`	`Aeo`	`Right, that one.`
`02:01.25`	`External`	`...`
`02:01.26`	`The_Randomness`	`~The_Randomness`
`02:01.26`	`infobot`	`"There's coffee in that nebula!"`
`02:01.26`	`Wormy_STO`	`Aeo: You saw my comments in the logs?`
`02:01.36`	`The_Randomness`	`8)`
`02:01.51`	`Wormy_STO`	`Yes it caused quite a discussion earlier`
`02:02.09`	`Aeo`	`Wormy_STO Oh... I wasn't refering to that. I'll have to look at the logs.`
`02:02.09`	`External`	`~External`
`02:02.18`	`External`	`I SED`
`02:02.22`	`External`	`~External`
`02:02.23`	`Aeo`	`~External is Aeo's Property`
`02:02.23`	`infobot`	`Aeo: okay`
`02:02.37`	`External`	`~External`
`02:02.37`	`infobot`	`i guess external is Aeo's Property`
`02:02.48`	`Aeo`	`:)`
`02:02.53`	`External`	`Now you even made infobot know it.`
`02:02.54`	`Wormy_`	`I'm off to bed now`
`02:02.58`	`Wormy_`	`bye`
`02:03.09`	`External`	`Me, Aeo, and Tek found out infobots gender.`
`02:03.38`	`External`	`He is gay, male, and pregnant`
`02:03.52`	`The_Randomness`	`kinky`
`02:04.26`	`External`	`It's on the IRC moments.`
`02:05.25`	`External`	`Well, it was.`
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`02:09.01`	`External`	`At the bottom: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:IRC/Quotes?oldid=661066`
`02:23.47`	`External`	`~External is not Aeos property and he is better than everyone here`
`02:23.47`	`infobot`	`...but external is already something else...`
`02:23.59`	`External`	`DAMMIT AEO`
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`02:24.17`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Hi everyone`
`02:24.27`	`Aeo`	`hi`
`02:24.39`	`External`	`Hey.`
`02:24.47`	`External`	`I was about to yell at Aeo.`
`02:24.59`	`External`	`[20:23] <External> ~External is not Aeos property and he is better than everyone here [20:23] <+infobot> ...but external is already something else... [20:23] <External> DAMMIT AEO`
`02:25.22`	`External`	`~External`
`02:25.22`	`infobot`	`i guess external is Aeo's Property`
`02:25.40`	`External`	`FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU....`
`02:25.47`	`External`	`gasps for breath`
`02:25.54`	`External`	`UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK`
`02:26.16`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Guys, seriously stop overusing infobot.`
`02:26.37`	`External`	`Aight'.`
`02:26.44`	`Aeo`	`It's not like we do it when other people are talking, Drodo.`
`02:26.53`	`Aeo`	`When the chat is dead, it doesn't matter.`
`02:28.03`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Fine, when that's true go ahead.`
`02:28.11`	`DrodoEmpire`	`That still doesn't explain last time I asked`
`02:28.23`	`DrodoEmpire`	`When you blatantly defied my request and then left.`
`02:30.04`	`Externalizer`	`~Externalizer is not Aeos property and neither is External and they are better than everyone else`
`02:30.04`	`infobot`	`Externalizer: okay`
`02:30.10`	`Externalizer`	`~Externalizer`
`02:30.10`	`infobot`	`you are probably not Aeos property and neither is External and they are better than everyone else`
`02:30.32`	`Externalizer`	`Didn't work right, but I'm not your property.`
`02:31.29`	`Aeo`	`~Externalizer`
`02:31.29`	`infobot`	`it has been said that externalizer is Aeo's property and should stop pretending otherwise`
`02:32.16`	`Externalizer`	`...`
`02:32.23`	`Externalizer`	`~Kill infobot`
`02:32.23`	`infobot`	`ACTION shoots a ionized photon gun at infobot`
`02:32.47`	`Externalizer`	`~kill itself`
`02:32.47`	`infobot`	`ACTION shoots a super-inverse fluxmeson gun at itself`
`02:33.13`	`Externalizer`	`takes a Nathierm beam rifle to infobots dead corpse to make sure it stays dead.`
`02:35.01`	`Aeo`	`Externalizer: I will tell you how to change what infobot says about your name, but only if you agree that you, like the several other users listed on my profile, are my slave no matter what you make him say.`
`02:35.13`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Okay, seriously. Lay off infobot for a while. Its very annoying and discourages other conversation quite a lot, not to mention saturating the chat with useless stuff.`
`02:36.15`	`Externalizer`	`DrodoEmpire: Alright.`
`02:36.27`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Thank you.\`
`02:36.42`	`Aeo`	`DrodoEmpire: So what do you want to talk about then?`
`02:37.28`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Nothing about me. On the behalf of everybody else. This spam just fills the logs with clutter, its funny every once and a while I but I personally find it to be a bit of s nuisance.`
`02:37.32`	`Aeo`	`~forget external`
`02:37.33`	`infobot`	`i forgot external, Aeo`
`02:37.56`	`Aeo`	`That's how. We can talk about something else now.`
`02:40.01`	`DrodoEmpire`	`I have no want to discuss something else. I'm simply enforcing this rule so if someone else wants to discuss something they don't have to have it from the middle of infobot spam. Not to stomp on your fun, but really`
`02:41.30`	`Aeo`	`DrodoEmpire: You're overreacting. No one ever does anything on the chat outside of peak hours, which have been over for a while.`
`02:42.33`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Perhaps its frivolous to ask, but I mention this because of past examples where you did potentially delay or disrupt conversation and blantantly defy my wishes.`
`02:43.53`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Anyway, yes. I'll admit this was an overreaction`
`02:48.07`	`Aeo`	`Alright then, here's something to talk about. I have a wikia of my own now. http://webfiction.wikia.com/wiki/WebFiction_Wiki`
`02:48.55`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Seems a little redundant.`
`02:49.08`	`DrodoEmpire`	`No offense, but I find it hard to see the practicality of its primary use`
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`02:49.42`	`Quark8`	`Hello.`
`02:49.49`	`Aeo`	`DrodoEmpire: It's not a place to write webfiction. It's an encyclopedia about webfiction.`
`02:50.19`	`DrodoEmpire`	`I know`
`02:50.35`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Which is an interesting idea, but seems a little broad.`
`02:51.05`	`Quark8`	`Have you heard of the new Total War: Warhammer?`
`02:51.25`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Yeah`
`02:51.28`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Seems pretty cool`
`02:51.41`	`DrodoEmpire`	`New direction for the Total War series definitely`
`02:51.53`	`DrodoEmpire`	`But its something TW fans have wanted for years.`
`02:52.05`	`DrodoEmpire`	`And with the success of Attila I see it being pretty good`
`02:52.11`	`Quark8`	`I wonder how magic will be integrated.`
`02:52.14`	`DrodoEmpire`	`^`
`02:52.17`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Yeah`
`02:52.49`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Anyway`
`02:53.26`	`DrodoEmpire`	`I see your wiki being somewhat redundant. Why go there to see a fiction instead of the original site or wiki?`
`02:53.45`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Don't get me wrong, its a pretty interesting idea. I'm just pointing out a few things to consider`
`02:53.54`	`DrodoEmpire`	`I'm excited to see how it'll turn out.`
`02:53.58`	`Quark8`	`Are you speaking to me?`
`02:54.31`	`Aeo`	`DrodoEmpire: Well, for the same reason you'd read the wikipedia on a novel. Because you want to learn more about it, how it was made, or want a summary of it.`
`02:54.44`	`Quark8`	`Oh.`
`02:54.51`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Quark: Sorry about that. I meant Aeo`
`02:55.02`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Eh I suppose.`
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`03:23.51`	`Catface`	`I swear I am going to slap your shit.`
`03:23.56`	`Catface`	`Don't test me, man.`
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`03:43.02`	`External_Civ5`	`I had to restart a whole new game on Civilization 5 when I was about to conquer the earth.`
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`04:10.11`	`External_Civ5`	`England's stuck up.`
`04:10.19`	`External_Civ5`	`Everyone hates them.`
`04:24.13`	`TekDroid`	`O.o So at the moment in this Vic2 game I represent 2/3 of global artillery purchases. O.o`
`04:29.31`	`DrodoMediII`	`lol`
`04:29.45`	`DrodoEmpire`	`I was done a while ago. >.<`
`04:36.11`	`TekDroid`	`Lol`
`04:37.06`	`TekDroid`	`facepalm Portugal just declared war on a united and full westernized India`
`04:38.10`	`TekDroid`	`...India actually has better Military tech than them. O.o`
`04:38.34`	`Aeo`	`Portugal has a military? I thought only important countries had those.`
`04:39.08`	`Aeo`	`( https://binarybiker.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/trollflagchris1.jpg )`
`04:42.15`	`Aeo`	`Don't you need electricity to make guns, and guns to have an army? Portugal is in South America or something right?`
`04:42.35`	`TekDroid`	`So having utterly crushed France my (Italy) only real land threat is Russia. And once the time comes I'm sure me and Germany will have no problems crushing Russia. ...wait.`
`04:42.48`	`TekDroid`	`XD`
`04:47.11`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Well, being serious`
`04:47.32`	`DrodoEmpire`	`You can make a gun in your backyard, without any electricity. Its called a musket. :p`
`04:47.42`	`TekDroid`	`lol`
`04:48.32`	`DrodoEmpire`	`And you don't really need guns to have an army. A modern one certainly does, but back in the mid to early 19th century some very incredible victories were won without them. Hard-fought, but won.`
`04:49.32`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Finally, I get you're American, so I'll cut you a bit of slack for this one... But no, Portugal is in Iberia. Brazil, another Portuguese-speaking nation is in South America, though.`
`04:51.03`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Actually come to think of it, if you had the technical skills and tools you could make a more modern pistol without electricity. It'd be difficult and take a while`
`04:51.08`	`DrodoEmpire`	`But you could`
`04:51.17`	`DrodoEmpire`	`*pistol, rifle, etc.`
`05:25.53`	`DrodoEmpire`	`test`
`05:33.43`	`Aeo`	`DrodoEmpire: I did know portugal was in Europe. I was just joking, though I did think [one of those funny word South American Countries] for a moment before I remembered "oh yeah, that"`
`05:33.54`	`Aeo`	`'s where Columbous sailed from.`
`05:34.02`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Yeah I was joking there too. :p`
`05:34.17`	`DrodoEmpire`	`And he sailed under the spanish flag`
`05:34.39`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Though Portugal and Spain were basically the same country then so meh`
`05:34.41`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Well`
`05:34.43`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Still are`
`05:34.44`	`DrodoEmpire`	`XD`
`05:36.05`	`Aeo`	`You're right. I was thinking that he was rejected by Spain and sailed from Portugal but it was the other way around.`
`05:36.20`	`Aeo`	`Though, weren't they bitter arch-rivals?`
`05:36.40`	`DrodoEmpire`	`They were fairly competitive in the colonial race`
`05:36.44`	`DrodoEmpire`	`At least at first`
`05:36.55`	`DrodoEmpire`	`I believe there was a treaty that basically divided the new world between them`
`05:37.14`	`Aeo`	`Yes. The pope made it.`
`05:37.32`	`Aeo`	`Because years beginning in 1 but not 19`
`05:37.51`	`Aeo`	`with four digets.`
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`07:27.56`	`Aeo`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Art TekDroid Liquid_Ink Charles_Murray`
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`07:28.27`	`Jepardi`	`Hi`
`07:29.38`	`Aeo`	`hi`
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`08:31.28`	`Ghelae`	`Hello.`
`08:35.04`	`dino82_`	`hello!`
`08:35.06`	`dino82_`	`how is all doing!`
`08:38.13`	`Ghelae`	`I'm all right. How about you?`
`08:43.49`	`dino82_`	`Great to hear! Me as well`
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`09:22.34`	`Ghelae`	`Hello.`
`09:22.48`	`Liquid_Ink`	`I could go with a fungus that takes over the brain functions of animal hosts, but that's been done to death.`
`09:22.54`	`Liquid_Ink`	`... wrong channel.`
`09:24.25`	`Xho`	`Hoi`
`09:24.38`	`Xho`	`Wow first thing I've typed all day and it's a typo`
`09:24.39`	`Xho`	`0/10`
`09:28.50`	`Liquid_Ink`	`Beyond that, how are you?`
`09:29.41`	`Xho`	`Okay I suppose`
`09:51.54`	`dino82_`	`:D`
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`09:54.28`	`Ghelae`	`Hello.`
`10:13.01`	`dino82_`	`helloz`
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`10:33.53`	`Hachiman`	`Hai`
`10:34.11`	`Hachiman`	`The Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquaio fight last night was absolute bollocks`
`10:34.24`	`Hachiman`	`The Pacman should have won`
`10:35.02`	`dino82_`	`hello hachi`
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`10:47.55`	`Hachiman`	`Hai`
`10:48.05`	`Monet`	`Hello`
`10:53.23`	`AdmiralPanda`	`hi`
`11:13.36`	`Monet`	`Hmm`
`11:14.29`	`Monet`	`Just thinking now, when it comes to repsecting rights of protest I guess tranquilisers are ebetter alternative to telepathic motor neuron shurdown`
`11:15.12`	`Monet`	`Even if you're using horse tranquiliser, you still still a few seconds where you can moan about it.before passing out`
`11:15.21`	`Monet`	`you still have a few*`
`11:30.49`	`Technobliterator`	`drodo tells me Aeo is "pushing his luck"`
`11:30.54`	`Technobliterator`	`anyone like to elaborate?`
`11:32.02`	`Monet`	`Could possibly be him bringing up old discussions.`
`11:32.33`	`Technobliterator`	`I wasn't around when Aeo was so eh`
`11:33.03`	`Monet`	`From what Aeo and I have talked about he still sees Sub-citizenship as something as bad as slavery here in the real world.`
`11:34.04`	`Hachiman`	`Eh I do not see what he is doing wrong`
`11:34.14`	`Hachiman`	`He is not breaking any rules, as unpleasant as he may be being`
`11:34.15`	`Monet`	`idk if there might be a hint he still thinks sub-citizens are a form of forced labour (not always, robots are cheaper).`
`11:34.32`	`Monet`	`Hachiman: Maybe that unpleasantness is what Drodo is talking about?`
`11:35.54`	`Ghel`	`Hello.`
`11:36.00`	`Monet`	`Hello`
`11:36.11`	`Monet`	`I wouldn't entirely see the forum on "dedication is not slavery" as specifically him; the Aeons are a bunch of religious nuts`
`11:37.29`	`Technobliterator`	`hi Ghel, I wanted your opinion on something`
`11:37.39`	`Ghel`	`Okay.`
`11:37.54`	`Technobliterator`	`users should not be allowed to remove talk page content that isn't vandalism - yes or no??`
`11:37.57`	`Technobliterator`	`-second ?`
`11:41.18`	`Ghel`	`Hmm. There are certainly cases where non-vandalism content shouldn't be removed as it contains useful information, and dealing with content on a case-by-case basis opens up the opportunity for messages whose status is unclear being removed when perhaps it would be useful for them to be kept, even just as records of interactions.`
`11:41.51`	`Ghel`	`And that reasoning applies both to talk pages - where it's certainly accepted - and to message walls.`
`11:42.09`	`Ghel`	`So yes, I shall agree with you.`
`11:42.46`	`Technobliterator`	`right, okay`
`11:43.37`	`Technobliterator`	`the consensus seems to be: "users cannot remove talk page content from other talk pages unless it is vandalism; while they are permitted to remove content from their own talk pages, they may not remove staff messages"`
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`11:45.36`	`Ghel`	`That's slightly more lenient, so users are only allowed to remove vandalism from any walls, and non-staff messages from their own walls.`
`11:45.39`	`Ghel`	`Hello.`
`11:45.42`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`Hey!`
`11:45.46`	`Hachiman`	`hAI`
`11:45.49`	`Hachiman`	`Whoops caps`
`11:46.00`	`OluapWorker`	`~cuddle Hachiman`
`11:46.01`	`infobot`	`ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy`
`11:46.06`	`Monet`	`Hello`
`11:46.11`	`Hachiman`	`y u worka on a sunday`
`11:46.15`	`*** join/#sporewiki Wormy_ (4e956055@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.149.96.85)`
`11:46.18`	`Ghel`	`I suppose my reasoning should apply to non-staff messages too, but I'll leave it to the community to put their thoughts into it too.`
`11:46.19`	`Ghel`	`Hello.`
`11:46.20`	`Wormy_`	`hi`
`11:47.08`	`Wormy_`	`I saw you post two posts at once, either that's IRC or you are operating on a much faster level.`
`11:47.10`	`Technobliterator`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Rules#Talk_pages this appears to be it after asking everyone`
`11:47.16`	`Technobliterator`	`hi Wormy`
`11:47.29`	`OluapWorker`	`Because I barely woke up so I'm somewhat disoriented`
`11:47.45`	`Technobliterator`	`ohi Oluap`
`11:48.00`	`Wormy_`	`Or, my brain is just very slow when I get up`
`11:48.20`	`Ghel`	`That consensus doesn't seem too unfair. If content needs to be restored that should be possible.`
`11:48.29`	`Technobliterator`	`Mhm`
`11:48.36`	`Ghel`	`Wormy_: "Hello." is very quick to type.`
`11:49.07`	`Xho`	`OluapPlayer: ups`
`11:49.08`	`Technobliterator`	`I get the feeling our non-admin userbase doesn't really involve themselves with policy much, with the exception of Hachi, Drodo and Charles anyway`
`11:49.18`	`OluapPlayer`	`spu`
`11:49.25`	`Technobliterator`	`or maybe Xho me does but he's normally indifferent`
`11:49.30`	`Technobliterator`	`uh. -me`
`11:49.30`	`OluapPlayer`	`I'd like us to get some Fog War done today`
`11:49.31`	`Xho`	`wat dis`
`11:49.39`	`Xho`	`OluapPlayer: k den`
`11:49.39`	`Technobliterator`	`oooh can I be involved`
`11:49.40`	`Technobliterator`	`:o`
`11:49.48`	`OluapPlayer`	`Yes`
`11:50.01`	`Xho`	`What am I indifferent to exactly`
`11:50.12`	`Wormy_`	`Perhaps emphasise that you cannot remove unimportant messages from other walls without permission.`
`11:50.31`	`Xho`	`OluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=436586398`
`11:50.40`	`Technobliterator`	`indifferent to most policy discussions`
`11:50.45`	`Xho`	`Oh`
`11:50.46`	`Xho`	`Yeah`
`11:50.48`	`OluapPlayer`	`snoipir`
`11:50.54`	`Technobliterator`	`The majority of our non-admin userbase doesn't really give much input`
`11:51.22`	`Technobliterator`	`and that ones that do give input are mods already`
`11:51.27`	`Technobliterator`	`:P`
`11:51.35`	`Technobliterator`	`well except Charles`
`11:54.16`	`Wormy_`	`Hopefully this article will prevent LMC from becoming another trend-based run of the mill galaxy http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Large_Magellanic_Cloud`
`11:54.26`	`Wormy_`	`Hachiman, you might like it`
`11:55.37`	`*** join/#sporewiki Hachiman (5187c2a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.135.194.167)`
`11:58.19`	`Wormy_`	`lol`
`12:00.16`	`Xho`	`brb`
`12:01.12`	`OluapPlayer`	`ffs`
`12:01.38`	`OluapPlayer`	`Hachiman Wormy_ Technobliterator: When Xho gets back, can we do a Fog War section?`
`12:01.48`	`Wormy_`	`Imgur dump: http://imgur.com/gallery/A4wsrH1 http://imgur.com/gallery/MUXn9fD http://imgur.com/gallery/icZcNVJ http://imgur.com/gallery/tlmrjXF`
`12:02.55`	`Technobliterator`	`OluapPlayer, I will be leaving to go home at some point, but other than that, I'm free all day`
`12:03.06`	`OluapPlayer`	`sadf`
`12:05.33`	`Technobliterator`	`I could be leaving to go home now, or several hours from now, though`
`12:10.15`	`Hachiman`	`I have a barbeque today so I dunno how available I will be`
`12:10.25`	`OluapPlayer`	`Ngh`
`12:11.04`	`OluapPlayer`	`I can't exclude you from this one`
`12:11.30`	`Wormy_`	`Hachi: You might like this when you can look http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Large_Magellanic_Cloud`
`12:11.40`	`OluapPlayer`	`It's the conclusion of the Vengeful Claw plot`
`12:12.24`	`Hachiman`	`I've read the page`
`12:12.24`	`Hachiman`	`I really like it`
`12:12.25`	`OluapPlayer`	`Unless you let me take over the Zazane for it`
`12:12.41`	`Hachiman`	`OluapPlayer: If you really want it finished then you can`
`12:13.05`	`Hachiman`	`Really I'd wanna be there but I'm gonna be largely busy throughout the day`
`12:13.15`	`OluapPlayer`	`if Xho gets back quickly we could get it started before you have to go`
`12:14.04`	`OluapPlayer`	`What kind of barbeques do you have over Britain that take a whole day hur`
`12:14.56`	`Monet`	`Afternon parties.`
`12:15.36`	`Monet`	`A good barbecue can go on until about 7pm.`
`12:15.46`	`Ghel`	`If we have barbecue weather in Britain, we make the most of it.`
`12:15.54`	`OluapPlayer`	`That's insane`
`12:16.11`	`OluapPlayer`	`Ours wouldn't go past 3pm`
`12:16.24`	`Monet`	`Only two hours?`
`12:16.54`	`OluapPlayer`	`Well no, the meat is prepared in the morning to be eaten at 12am, usually`
`12:17.05`	`OluapPlayer`	`That's when we have lunch over here`
`12:17.55`	`Wormy_`	`thanks`
`12:17.57`	`Technobliterator`	`hopefully xho gets back quickly`
`12:18.01`	`OluapPlayer`	`I'll just leave the section for another day in this case`
`12:18.09`	`Technobliterator`	`also we have a bank holiday tomorroq`
`12:18.10`	`Technobliterator`	`w`
`12:18.40`	`Monet`	`I guess it depends what else is going on at the barbecue`
`12:18.58`	`Monet`	`But like Ghel said, when the sun comes out in Britain, we like to make the most of it.`
`12:19.14`	`Monet`	`Even if that means spending all afternoon in someone's back garden.`
`12:19.25`	`OluapPlayer`	`It'd die of boredom`
`12:19.41`	`OluapPlayer`	`Then again I don't like parties of any shape and form`
`12:20.08`	`Wormy_`	`http://imgur.com/gallery/CZPZiXH`
`12:20.09`	`Monet`	`Probably why.`
`12:20.43`	`OluapPlayer`	`Still over here people spend more time drinking alcohol than actually eating meat in barbeques`
`12:21.03`	`Monet`	`Hm`
`12:21.33`	`Monet`	`I think British barbecues are a mix`
`12:21.51`	`Wormy_`	`I'm being dragged off to an art festival! D:`
`12:21.57`	`Monet`	`Again, we don't get much sun so grilling burgers out in the fresh air is less commonplace.`
`12:22.01`	`Wormy_`	`Usually me + art doesn't get along`
`12:22.05`	`Monet`	`Wormy_: Take me with you!`
`12:22.26`	`OluapPlayer`	`You mean your barbeques are like American ones where you just grill burgers?`
`12:22.56`	`Wormy_`	`As a veggie mine are a mix of veg and quourn`
`12:23.06`	`Monet`	`Burgers, chicken and sausages.`
`12:23.18`	`Monet`	`Beer is still served though`
`12:23.28`	`Monet`	`It's not a party unless there's beer`
`12:23.41`	`OluapPlayer`	`terrible world we live in`
`12:23.49`	`OluapPlayer`	`Brazilian barbeque is a lot bigger than that`
`12:24.17`	`OluapPlayer`	`Especially in the southmost part of the country`
`12:24.22`	`OluapPlayer`	`Some barbeques can get huge`
`12:24.24`	`Wormy_`	`I normally have quorn, veg cocktail sticks, and sometimes bannana and rum for afters`
`12:24.29`	`Monet`	`What's the social scene like for Brazillian BBQs?`
`12:24.40`	`Wormy_`	`banana`
`12:24.59`	`OluapPlayer`	`Grilled meat but definitely not burgers`
`12:25.14`	`OluapPlayer`	`If you brought burgers to a barbeque people would think you're insane`
`12:25.26`	`Monet`	`THat's unfair`
`12:25.51`	`Monet`	`I think I once had grilled turkey drumstick.`
`12:26.29`	`OluapPlayer`	`https://euemagreco.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/churrasco.jpg this would be the most standard barbeque you can come across`
`12:26.33`	`Monet`	`In Britain BBQs are an excuse to drink, meat the neighbours and consume all varieties of spicy grilled meat.`
`12:27.27`	`Wormy_`	`I don't think British BBQ's are as big as American ones though`
`12:27.31`	`Monet`	`You grill hot dogs and kebabs but not burgers?`
`12:27.44`	`Monet`	`Shenanegans dat`
`12:28.05`	`Wormy_`	`Oh sometimes I have corn on the cob too`
`12:28.05`	`OluapPlayer`	`http://www.baixaki.com.br/imagens/wpapers/BXK87533_churrasco800.jpg or this`
`12:28.10`	`OluapPlayer`	`Huge slabs of meat are a norm`
`12:28.21`	`Monet`	`So steak is fine`
`12:28.39`	`Monet`	`Y u guys no like grilled burgers?`
`12:29.05`	`OluapPlayer`	`burgers are teeny american snack in land of big strong brazilian farmer`
`12:29.14`	`Wormy_`	`^`
`12:29.42`	`OluapPlayer`	`Looking for pictures of barbeque -> picture of a burnt man`
`12:29.45`	`OluapPlayer`	`Google come on`
`12:29.52`	`Monet`	`http://pollparrots.com/media/upload_images/513b8b0b83061e863dc34d77e49fa164C62EBBAC34276EF9D81D1F46B85CC7.jpg even this?`
`12:30.28`	`OluapPlayer`	`It might be bigger but it's not a thing you put in a barbeque over here`
`12:30.53`	`Monet`	`Actually something wierd jsut hit me`
`12:31.03`	`Wormy_away`	`I can agree with Oluap. Euro-Ameriburgers are simply inferior in mass and roastedness and saltedness`
`12:31.04`	`Monet`	`Here i nthe UK, most kebabs are considered snack foods.`
`12:32.39`	`Wormy_away`	`We don't normally eat a whole kebab though`
`12:32.39`	`OluapPlayer`	`Unfortunately I can't find picture similar to the biggest barbeque I've ever been`
`12:33.10`	`Wormy_away`	`I can't talk, I've never even had a kebab`
`12:33.29`	`Monet`	`Hmm, it might be to do with the UK being the 53rd densest country in the world`
`12:34.13`	`Monet`	`We have a lot of city folk.`
`12:34.53`	`OluapPlayer`	`But think of a huge grill, as long as a dinner table made of bricks, with several and I mean SEVERAL rows of meat of all kinds`
`12:34.58`	`OluapPlayer`	`There was meat in there for days`
`12:35.27`	`OluapPlayer`	`If I'm not mistaken we even took some home with us`
`12:36.04`	`OluapPlayer`	`All this talk about grilled meat made me hungry`
`12:36.12`	`Monet`	`The only European country that's denser than the UK is Belgium.`
`12:38.58`	`Monet`	`And there are far more people per square mile than any country that has English as a primary language. So I guess we don't see burgers as snack foods because a lot of us are the kind of city folk who treat an autumn festival as purely an excuse to get drunk rather than celebrating a good harvest.`
`12:42.04`	`Monet`	`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4BHlB4AMa0 general British attitude to talking about famous figures.`
`12:42.20`	`dino82_`	`lol`
`12:42.24`	`Monet`	`We are quite happy to mock the shit out of both peopel we hate and people we love.`
`12:43.15`	`Monet`	`"the queen has offered ot provide 300 bottles of vintage shampagne" Queen - LET'S GET WANKERED!`
`12:43.23`	`Monet`	`champagne*`
`12:53.00`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`http://www.webdonuts.com/comics/2011-07-01-2011-07-1-Barbeque.jpg`
`12:53.11`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`Dragon BBQ`
`13:15.48`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`test`
`13:28.27`	`OluapPlayer`	`spai`
`13:28.30`	`Xho`	`iaps`
`13:28.43`	`OluapPlayer`	`go werk on blood road`
`13:29.35`	`Xho`	`squawk`
`13:30.34`	`OluapPlayer`	`dunt u burd at me`
`13:31.20`	`Xho`	`SQUAAAAAAAAAAWK`
`13:33.29`	`Xho`	`[13:29] <@OluapPlayer> Looking for pictures of barbeque -> picture of a burnt man Serial Killer Google`
`13:33.51`	`Technobliterator`	`ok`
`13:33.54`	`Technobliterator`	`fog war time?`
`13:35.31`	`Xho`	`I was gonna go do something Spore but ok`
`13:36.42`	`Xho`	`in Spore*`
`13:36.48`	`Xho`	`I swear I just miss words out of sentences`
`13:37.43`	`Technobliterator`	`well assuming Oluap still wants to`
`13:37.57`	`Xho`	`I was gonna remake Vultusk because I'm never happy with his appearance`
`13:40.10`	`Xho`	`I've got some idea of what the new model will look like`
`13:40.19`	`Xho`	`As per usual, not pretty`
`13:45.18`	`Xho`	`Hm`
`13:45.28`	`Xho`	`Should I make him look either more mechanical, verdant or organic`
`13:46.14`	`OluapPlayer`	`No Fog War today`
`13:46.33`	`Xho`	`well boo u den`
`13:46.44`	`Xho`	`Or should I just make Vultusk look more armoured`
`13:47.53`	`OluapPlayer`	`I'm not sure since I can't tell what Vultusk is meant to be`
`13:48.16`	`Xho`	`That's probably a good thing hur`
`13:48.32`	`Xho`	`Amalgamated mass of human corpses really`
`13:48.41`	`Xho`	`Or just corpses in general`
`13:49.07`	`OluapPlayer`	`The closest thing I can think of is a flesh golem so I'd go for organic`
`13:52.06`	`OluapPlayer`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AEnigmaran I also made some purple urcs yesterday`
`13:52.43`	`Xho`	`enugmurun urc`
`13:53.40`	`Xho`	`Kinda remind me of the giants from Skyrim`
`13:54.04`	`OluapPlayer`	`Pelagrios - got hit by one once sent me flying through the stratosphere`
`13:56.39`	`Xho`	`Riad - was hilarious`
`13:57.41`	`OluapPlayer`	`It gave me an excuse to introduce the concept of the Duskwood which was in my head for a while now`
`13:57.58`	`OluapPlayer`	`Basically an area on the Tropical Lands which's perpetually at night`
`13:59.25`	`Xho`	`Kinmo - like dis place`
`14:30.38`	`Xho`	`http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e0/Vultusk2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150503143005 dere`
`14:30.58`	`OluapPlayer`	`huge staff`
`14:38.36`	`Xho`	`âThere are few in this world who have transcended the finality of a mortal life. All of them at a great cost - their bodies and their minds often relinquished because of it. Then there are those who have recollected their minds on the other side, through the eye of death, and have become a vessel of the chasms of souls, using the living to sustain their formlessness.â`
`14:38.44`	`Xho`	`That's what I've done for Vultusk's top quote`
`14:39.21`	`OluapPlayer`	`Vultusk - who gives a shit TEA TIME`
`14:41.59`	`Xho`	`I was gonna make a familiar for Khaadun`
`14:42.05`	`Xho`	`Or a Siqis'ari equivalent of a familiar`
`14:42.13`	`Wormy_away`	`Weird, when I search Webtriver Torso" I get a blue and red screen. Webdriver Torso is a mysterious channel with blue and red rectangles and mysterious codes https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=webdriver+torso`
`14:43.27`	`OluapPlayer`	`I'm gonna do a reverse recycle and use a fantasyverse model in the fictionverse hur`
`14:43.30`	`Wormy_away`	`Can anyobody elsee see this????`
`14:43.43`	`Wormy_away`	`I'm scared`
`14:43.54`	`OluapPlayer`	`Yep it's blue and red`
`14:44.13`	`OluapPlayer`	`it is the ayyleins`
`14:44.26`	`Xho`	`ayylmaoliens`
`14:44.41`	`Xho`	`Ayylmaolien Sounds like a name for something I'd come up with`
`14:44.49`	`OluapPlayer`	`hur`
`14:44.54`	`Wormy_away`	`an example video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuucwpKwsyI`
`14:45.10`	`Wormy_away`	`don't watch with headphones`
`14:45.12`	`Xho`	`You know I'm not too sure what the Order of the Black Sun actually derive their religion from`
`14:45.51`	`Xho`	`If anything their religion is Crux/Caligaduro based`
`14:46.40`	`*** join/#sporewiki External_Civ5 (b8a66276@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.166.98.118)`
`14:46.45`	`Ghelaway`	`Wormy_away: Have you tried Googling it as well as just searching for it on YouTube?`
`14:47.00`	`Wormy_away`	`Uploaded 4 seconds ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl5e4Ts1uzo`
`14:47.12`	`Ghel`	`A similar sort of video replaces the Google logo.`
`14:47.22`	`External_Civ5`	`Monet was my captcha again.`
`14:47.26`	`Wormy_away`	`Weird, must be owned by Google`
`14:47.35`	`Xho`	`Wormy_away: Someone could turn this into a Meshuggah song`
`14:48.55`	`*** join/#sporewiki drom (~dpessimis@unaffiliated/drom)`
`14:49.14`	`External_Civ5`	`wormy_away: Weird, tthe video won't load.`
`14:49.27`	`drom`	`For whatever a strange reason, my client didn't automatically join this channel.`
`14:49.50`	`Wormy_away`	`Or maybe Google pretend to know what it is`
`14:49.55`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: It's annoying, right?`
`14:50.01`	`drom`	`Hm, just a coincidence.`
`14:51.01`	`drom`	`Wormy_away: Ready to talk more about procedural generation, hear hear?`
`14:51.10`	`Wormy_away`	`go ahead`
`14:51.16`	`drom`	`Just happened to me once, External.`
`14:51.41`	`External_Civ5`	`Aight'.`
`14:52.09`	`External_Civ5`	`Oof, I'm m churning out soldiers like no other since I can't produce buildings or wonders and my production is so high.`
`14:52.41`	`OluapPlayer`	`http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/94/Nightmare_Lamprey.png Corruptus has these now`
`14:52.43`	`dino82_`	`new creatoin: http://www.sporistics.com/?p=asset:501012748312`
`14:52.52`	`OluapPlayer`	`Because there's nothing more horrifying than a lamprey`
`14:53.40`	`Xho`	`wakakakakaka`
`14:54.21`	`Wormy_`	`Very good dino`
`14:55.54`	`External_Civ5`	`OluapPlayer: Imagine if that thing was chasing you through a forest....`
`14:56.08`	`Monet`	`dino82_: Cool`
`14:56.44`	`OluapPlayer`	`Pretty nice looking skull`
`14:56.59`	`External_Civ5`	`Yeah.`
`14:57.04`	`Monet`	`Wormy_: did some reading up and I find it interesting that Darth Vader's voice is not the same as his actor's. Imagine Vader with a West COuntry accent.`
`14:57.47`	`OluapPlayer`	`Getting chased by that would be nasty in any situation`
`14:57.57`	`OluapPlayer`	`It can fly and it has a mouth on each end of its body`
`14:58.03`	`External_Civ5`	`What the fuck`
`14:58.10`	`External_Civ5`	`That's not even funny`
`14:58.31`	`OluapPlayer`	`hur`
`14:58.50`	`Wormy_`	`Monet: Yeah I already knew about that. He had as country bumpkin accent`
`14:58.50`	`OluapPlayer`	`It's inspired by an enemy from a game who's exactly that, a lamprey dragon with a mouth on each end`
`14:59.44`	`Monet`	`Wormy_: "Ay sense ah disturbance in tha' fource."`
`15:00.24`	`External_Civ5`	`I have howitzers while veryone else uses stupid muskets.`
`15:00.31`	`Wormy_`	`"Nought Luke, I am thy fouther"`
`15:02.35`	`Monet`	`"I am alterin tha terms o' our deal, pray tha' I dun change them no farther"`
`15:02.42`	`Monet`	`Yeah it jsut wouldn't work.`
`15:02.48`	`Xho`	`OluapPlayer: So did Vixaatus actually physically approach every individual in the character list`
`15:02.55`	`OluapPlayer`	`Yes`
`15:03.13`	`Xho`	`Vixaatus - ur place needs a reel good cleen Vultusk - fuk off`
`15:03.26`	`Monet`	`OluapPlayer: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wCcNOw4Cvvc/hqdefault.jpg`
`15:03.30`	`Xho`	`It does make you wonder why Vultusk of all individuals`
`15:03.34`	`OluapPlayer`	`sadfsdgsdtg`
`15:03.39`	`OluapPlayer`	`can u not`
`15:03.51`	`Xho`	`If anything Vultusk is probably more comfortable with a world war than not`
`15:03.53`	`OluapPlayer`	`Desperate times call for desperate measures`
`15:04.11`	`OluapPlayer`	`Vultusk is not even the worst person in the cast hur`
`15:04.17`	`Monet`	`http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/naturelibrary/images/ic/credit/640x395/e/eu/european_brook_lamprey/european_brook_lamprey_1.jpg well so long as you don't see the inside of their mouth, lampreys are kinda cute`
`15:04.29`	`OluapPlayer`	`I ain't clicking that`
`15:04.37`	`Xho`	`Vultusk - get ur own moment in tiem Idvessel - no`
`15:04.40`	`OluapPlayer`	`Lampreys are scariest things in nature`
`15:04.55`	`Monet`	`But this one looks a bit like it has a tapir nose`
`15:05.03`	`Xho`	`Vultusk and Idvessel could probably communicate with each other given the right moment`
`15:05.34`	`OluapPlayer`	`Radial mouths in general are terrifying`
`15:05.39`	`OluapPlayer`	`They don't look something out of this world`
`15:05.47`	`OluapPlayer`	`look like`
`15:05.56`	`OluapPlayer`	`Wait no I missed up`
`15:06.05`	`OluapPlayer`	`They look like something out of this world`
`15:06.08`	`OluapPlayer`	`There, now it makes sense`
`15:06.09`	`drom`	`leeches and tapeworms`
`15:06.10`	`Monet`	`The BBC nature one I linked it's cutely sucking o na rock`
`15:06.35`	`dino82_`	`Thanks guys! If you want you can use ifif you have need of it ofcourse:D Was fun making`
`15:07.16`	`drom`	`External_Civ5: Rocket Artillery, fite me`
`15:07.29`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: Naaah....`
`15:07.45`	`External_Civ5`	`BECUZ I GOTZ GIANT DEATH ROBOTS HURHURHUR`
`15:08.05`	`drom`	`They are expensive as fuck`
`15:09.02`	`External_Civ5`	`No treally, I had an army of JUST GDRs.`
`15:09.41`	`Xho`	`I'd imagine Vultusk would turn on them if he found the right opportunity`
`15:10.02`	`Xho`	`Though then again Vultusk is probably the worst of the bunch in the Order of the Black Sun`
`15:10.14`	`OluapPlayer`	`He'd get fucked over if he tried hur`
`15:10.18`	`Wormy_`	`My mother's latest attempt to make my shave http://metro.co.uk/2015/05/03/some-beards-are-so-full-of-poo-they-are-as-dirty-as-toilets-5178828/?ito=facebook`
`15:10.30`	`Xho`	`Vultusk - we are not happy with this`
`15:10.30`	`Monet`	`http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/J%C3%B5esilmud2.jpg/1920px-J%C3%B5esilmud2.jpg yeah without the mouth, lampreys are kind-of cute`
`15:10.40`	`Monet`	`They're like eels`
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`15:11.07`	`OluapPlayer`	`Eels are cool but lampreys are ngh`
`15:11.12`	`Xho`	`eeeeeeeeeeeels`
`15:11.26`	`OluapPlayer`	`Even the fact eels have two mouths doesn't creep me out as much as lampreys do`
`15:11.50`	`Wormy_`	`I've sent her this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0kSuZFOwFE`
`15:11.56`	`Xho`	`I've said now that instead of having conjoined bodies bound together, Vultusk is just lots of bits of corpses sewn together`
`15:12.29`	`Monet`	`"New toys!"`
`15:12.55`	`OluapPlayer`	`So he is more or less a flesh golem then`
`15:12.56`	`OluapPlayer`	`i wus rite`
`15:12.59`	`Monet`	`On second thoughts, Impy might be the only one to get the reference.`
`15:12.59`	`Xho`	`yuh`
`15:13.01`	`drom`	`External_Civ5: Still easy big targets for nukes, aerial bombardment, attack copters and xcom squad rush.`
`15:13.09`	`Xho`	`He was originally six bodies nailed together`
`15:13.13`	`Xho`	`Though doing that in Spore is hard`
`15:13.43`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: Got me there, but they can resist all but the damned nuclear missiles.`
`15:13.44`	`External_Civ5`	`TO HELL WITH THE MISSILES`
`15:13.53`	`Xho`	`There is a spirit inhabiting the bodies though which is why he can survive with an incomplete body`
`15:14.20`	`Xho`	`Potentially he could go all Gravemind and fuck shit up but Vultusk doesn't have that much willpower`
`15:14.39`	`Xho`	`Can't spread his mind across that many bodies`
`15:15.24`	`Xho`	`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vdHpvoUJE If you need reminding what Gravemind is`
`15:16.12`	`drom`	`I still stay with the point that they can still be easily beaten with cheaper methods than nukes.`
`15:16.24`	`drom`	`Excluding 2:1 GDRs`
`15:17.04`	`Xho`	`I'd imagine Vultusk having a Gravemind-ish voice though`
`15:17.08`	`Xho`	`If not higher pitched`
`15:17.36`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: That's why I back them up with artillery and soldiers, while they do all the real fighting.`
`15:17.36`	`Monet`	`Essentially a GDR is a supersoldier: Big, expensive, can cause a lot of damage but costs more than a mass of cheaper units that together would be just as effective.`
`15:19.08`	`External_Civ5`	`They aren't expensive as you say, because my cities are on steroids. They have incredible production and gold output.`
`15:19.24`	`drom`	`External_Civ5: Then in that case, nukes on your army.`
`15:19.39`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: Screw your building`
`15:19.42`	`External_Civ5`	`I buy my nukes.`
`15:19.50`	`External_Civ5`	`So I can nuke you in one turn`
`15:20.52`	`Monet`	`This brings me back to the time AdmiralPanda tried ot invade my country but one city was pumping out units as quickly as he could kill them off.`
`15:20.53`	`External_Civ5`	`MWAAHAHAHAHAH`
`15:21.25`	`External_Civ5`	`Monet: One of my cities cannot build buildings or wonders, so I am building units per turn`
`15:21.31`	`External_Civ5`	`I am the most powerful country`
`15:22.37`	`OluapPlayer`	`Xho: What the fug is that`
`15:22.40`	`Monet`	`Well yes, when you are a hyperpower military force is easy to come by`
`15:22.45`	`Xho`	`Gravemind hur`
`15:23.02`	`Xho`	`Basically, a shitload of corpses that has accumulated near omniscience`
`15:23.15`	`OluapPlayer`	`ew`
`15:23.26`	`Monet`	`Flood are pure ew`
`15:23.38`	`Xho`	`It's an accumulation of a galactic parasite that sustains itself by infecting and possessing corpses`
`15:23.51`	`Xho`	`Which is the reason why the Halo array exists`
`15:23.59`	`External_Civ5`	`flood r awsom`
`15:24.24`	`Xho`	`So you get lots of primitive forms of it that the Gravemind controls`
`15:24.42`	`External_Civ5`	`And the pure forms, that are more complex.`
`15:25.16`	`OluapPlayer`	`I see`
`15:26.15`	`*** join/#sporewiki drom (~dpessimis@unaffiliated/drom)`
`15:26.26`	`drom`	`~seen drom`
`15:26.30`	`infobot`	`drom is currently on #cyrannus (15s) #sporewiki (15s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 4s, last said: '~seen drom'.`
`15:26.36`	`drom`	`Goddamnit`
`15:26.50`	`External_Civ5`	`Except the pure forms are just one being individually, by that I mean, they aren't just ONE type, they are all the types. They can transform into any other pure form`
`15:28.14`	`External_Civ5`	`England's about to be stomped into the ground with my military boot.`
`15:28.25`	`Ghelae`	`drom: If you were trying to see what the last thing you said before disconnecting was, it was "External_Civ5: Then in that case, nukes on your army."`
`15:29.09`	`drom`	`Alright.`
`15:29.17`	`drom`	`External_Civ5: i.imgur.com/2TOSRmN.png`
`15:30.07`	`External_Civ5`	`How do you take screenshots on your computer, again?`
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`15:33.12`	`External_Civ5`	`Anyone?`
`15:33.20`	`External_Civ5`	`How do you take screenshots on a computer?`
`15:36.34`	`Ghelae`	`There should be a "print screen" button near the top of the keyboard, often abbreviated to "prt sc" or something similar.`
`15:37.14`	`External_Civ5`	`Yes....`
`15:38.00`	`Monet`	`Are you using a Mac?`
`15:38.01`	`External_Civ5`	`DEATH TO ENGLAND!! GWAWARRRRRRRR`
`15:38.38`	`Ghelae`	`Now just because you didn't think my answer was detailed enough doesn't mean you need to declare death to my country. :P`
`15:38.57`	`External_Civ5`	`Monet: No.`
`15:39.14`	`External_Civ5`	`Ghelae: It's not just me, it's all the other nations`
`15:39.55`	`Ghelae`	`Usually once you've taken a screenshot by pressing that button you can paste it into another application that allows you to add images.`
`15:40.11`	`Ghelae`	`Presumably it works for most or all such programs, but I haven't tried.`
`15:40.18`	`External_Civ5`	`When I press Print Screen, nothing happens...`
`15:40.52`	`Monet`	`You need to ctrl+p inside an image processor like paint or GIMP`
`15:40.56`	`Monet`	`Or photoshop`
`15:41.04`	`Ghelae`	`It's basically copied the image of the screen, so you need to paste it somewhere.`
`15:41.08`	`External_Civ5`	`I have GIMP`
`15:41.23`	`External_Civ5`	`Do I open GIMP first?`
`15:41.51`	`Ghelae`	`Yes. You can open it after you've done prt sc, but you need to open it before you ctrl-v the image in there.`
`15:42.55`	`External_Civ5`	`Done.`
`15:44.30`	`External_Civ5`	`Thanks`
`15:48.19`	`Xho`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vultusk_Kychtdar dun`
`15:53.13`	`OluapPlayer`	`Vultusk - I AM MADE OF DED`
`15:55.58`	`External_Civ5`	`olol I waged war against England and I gained York and Southampton.`
`15:56.09`	`Xho`	`dam`
`15:56.10`	`External_Civ5`	`Xho, you are under MY control in this game.`
`15:56.17`	`TekDroid`	`Hm... I should probably delete soke Vic 2 saves; I currently have 16.9 GB of them. O.o`
`15:58.21`	`TekDroid`	`No, wait. I missed a few folders. 31.4GB of saved games. O.o`
`15:58.49`	`Monet`	`Xho: Didn't Marcos and Vultusk know each other for a time?`
`15:59.04`	`Xho`	`I think that story was scrapped`
`15:59.29`	`Monet`	`Wasn't that story Forgotten Lands though?`
`15:59.35`	`Xho`	`Nope`
`16:01.23`	`Monet`	`I don't know if I used him in anything else`
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`16:03.02`	`Monet`	`Because after Forgotten Lands he decided to travel west while everyone else went south.`
`16:03.23`	`Monet`	`Though I suppose it was rational, he did leave his horse i nthe starting town.`
`16:04.09`	`External_Civ5`	`My forces are surrounding London. If they declare war, thou is ded.`
`16:04.57`	`drom`	`External_Civ5: They won't if you do that`
`16:05.04`	`Monet`	`Wait did you order a surrender?`
`16:05.44`	`External_Civ5`	`Yeah, but I got York and Southampton`
`16:06.17`	`drom`	`Brits? More like French`
`16:07.22`	`Monet`	`I'm kinda getting bored of the French joke.`
`16:10.18`	`Monet`	`It was fun until I discovered Napoleon at oen time had all of Europe and North Africa as his bitch.`
`16:10.40`	`External_Civ5`	`America, me, the Iroquois, and the Persians are all battering England`
`16:11.14`	`External_Civ5`	`I'm going to take turns punching Elizabeth whilst she hangs from a ceiling.`
`16:11.21`	`External_Civ5`	`Virtually, anyways`
`16:11.42`	`External_Civ5`	`Ooh, so is the Songhai`
`16:11.44`	`Monet`	`I respect any power that can control Europe under one banner`
`16:12.07`	`Monet`	`Well except the EU because they're not doing so great.`
`16:12.22`	`External_Civ5`	`Monet: I once controlled all the continents except for half of Australia and Asia`
`16:12.43`	`External_Civ5`	`Then again, I did nuke all of south america.`
`16:14.57`	`drom`	`Do any of you mind that I put Dquartali Galaxy under http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Locations#Other_Universes`
`16:15.18`	`External_Civ5`	`Que?`
`16:17.06`	`Ghelae`	`It's the best place for it to go currently, assuming you mean the destroyed Dquartali galaxy, although IIRC it's bette considered a distant part of our universe. If you mean your personal universe version that's still around, that's not part of the SporeWikiverse reality at all.`
`16:22.21`	`drom`	`Persoanlly saying, it's more like SchrÃ¶dingers galaxy. It's either still intact or destroyed.`
`16:24.36`	`Ghelae`	`It seems clear enough that it's destroyed in the SporeWikiverse reality but not in your personal universe, but that's besides the point.`
`16:24.57`	`Ghelae`	`All that matters there is that your personal fictionverse isn't part of the SporeWikiverse.`
`16:25.32`	`drom`	`Fair enough.`
`16:26.08`	`Ghelae`	`It seems to be part of the Gigaquadrant's universe by any reasonable definition (how far away is it?), but not part of the Gigaquadrant itself, so there isn't currently a category for that.`
`16:26.31`	`External_Civ5`	`nukes droms Civilization V cities with a special nuclear missile`
`16:27.01`	`Ghelae`	`At a stretch, it could be placed with the Sombrero Galaxy in such a category.`
`16:27.45`	`drom`	`Hard to say... around hundred to thousand years worth of hyperdrive travel.`
`16:28.03`	`drom`	`The point still stands, that too far.`
`16:31.21`	`Ghelae`	`With the radius of the observable universe being under 50 billion light years in diameter, Dquartali would fit within that if you're talking about hyperdrives that go at less than 50 million c.`
`16:31.43`	`drom`	`Hm. C?`
`16:31.50`	`Ghelae`	`Speed of light.`
`16:32.06`	`drom`	`Alright.`
`16:32.10`	`Ghelae`	`So 50 million c (or Mc, Mega-c) = 50 million times the speed of light.`
`16:33.42`	`drom`	`Sweet! Mathematics time!`
`16:34.18`	`External_Civ5`	`I just captured London`
`16:34.22`	`External_Civ5`	`englands ded`
`16:34.56`	`External_Civ5`	`"Which leader are you talking about? The one who was on her knees begging or the one I beheaded?"`
`16:36.47`	`drom`	`What's the average hyperdrive speed for tier 3-2 tech ships?`
`16:36.56`	`drom`	`Do you believe?`
`16:37.21`	`Ghelae`	`IIRC the only number that was ever used was 16 Mc as a maximum for transwarp.`
`16:38.27`	`Ghelae`	`Jump drives are practically instantaneous (relativity of simultaneity notwithstanding) on the scale of galactic clusters, but that's more high Tier 1 technology.`
`16:43.48`	`drom`	`Let's see. 50 Mc is about 4.727 * 10^23 meter per y according to my own calculations if I've understood this correctly. If c is defined as m/s.`
`16:44.53`	`Ghelae`	`Yes.`
`16:45.24`	`Ghelae`	`Or close enough.`
`16:46.11`	`drom`	`using the c as m/y again, I get 4.727 * 10^26 m/y`
`16:46.24`	`drom`	`Roughly a difference 3 zeros`
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`16:47.13`	`Ghelae`	`It's approximately (5010^6)(310^8)365.25243600`
`16:47.21`	`Ghelae`	`Let's see if infobot can do that.`
`16:47.26`	`Ghelae`	`~(5010^6)(310^8)365.25243600`
`16:47.26`	`infobot`	`345745065600`
`16:47.56`	`Ghelae`	`Hmm. Did I miss a term?`
`16:47.59`	`External_Civ5`	`So infobot isn't stupid.`
`16:48.02`	`drom`	`I speculate it has to be higher than 100-200 Mc inorder to reach more than 50 billion ly`
`16:48.12`	`TekDroid`	`Actually google can convert light years to meters of you type it in. :P`
`16:48.32`	`TekDroid`	`https://www.google.ca/search?q=50+megalight+years+to+meters&oq=50+megalight+years+to+meters&aqs=chrome..69i57.9384j0j4&client=ms-android-rogers-ca&sourceid=chrome-mobile&espvd=1&ie=UTF-8#q=50%2C000%2C000+light+years+to+meters`
`16:48.37`	`drom`	`My calculation is c (m/y) = 299792458606024365`
`16:48.45`	`drom`	`Simplified as usual.`
`16:48.48`	`Ghelae`	`Why are you trying to convert light years per year into metres per year?`
`16:48.54`	`drom`	`Wait`
`16:49.40`	`Ghelae`	`That shoud be right, though. (m/s)(s/min)(min/h)(h/day)(day/yr) = m/yr`
`16:49.56`	`TekDroid`	`O.o`
`16:50.02`	`drom`	`That's ly/y then`
`16:50.10`	`drom`	`ly/yr even`
`16:50.20`	`Ghelae`	`But I did 60*60=3600 and, taking into account leap years, it's 365.25 days per year on average.`
`16:50.43`	`Ghelae`	`c = 1 ly/yr by definition.`
`16:51.18`	`drom`	`then I put 50 billion as 5*10^10`
`16:51.40`	`drom`	`And that's how I got the universes' radius in m`
`16:51.47`	`TekDroid`	`Google says 4.7302642 x 10^23 is the answer. :P`
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`16:52.19`	`Ghelae`	`Why not just do the radius in ly and then the speed in ly/yr?`
`16:52.24`	`drom`	`I used a simiflied (day/yr)`
`16:52.59`	`drom`	`Because I thought it was all m/s`
`16:53.03`	`drom`	`But oh well`
`16:53.29`	`Ghelae`	`So the time taken for fast transwarp to cover 50 Gly is 5010^9 ly / 1610^6 c = 3.125*10^3 yr.`
`16:53.33`	`Ghelae`	`3125 years.`
`16:53.34`	`drom`	`Mathematics is a sensitive serious business.`
`16:54.54`	`External_Civ5`	`Stupid INTERNET`
`16:55.07`	`drom`	`It requires 500 Mc in order to reach 50 billion ly in 100 years.`
`16:55.17`	`Ghelae`	`Yes.`
`16:56.01`	`drom`	`What do you think, how much is the Jump drive's speed?`
`16:56.46`	`*** join/#sporewiki AndroImpy (~imperios@host-54-156-66-217.spbmts.ru)`
`16:56.54`	`Ghelae`	`The only canon value we ever had for that was 10^16 c. It wasn't based on any valid reasoning; presumably the deepest layers of hyperspace are just 10^16 times smaller than realspace.`
`16:57.16`	`drom`	`If it was equal to the observable universe's radius, they'd have crossed 1000 [observable] universes already.`
`16:57.16`	`Ghelae`	`So that's 5*10^-6 yr.`
`16:57.47`	`drom`	`Under 1000 years`
`16:57.52`	`Ghelae`	`Or a little under 2 minutes.`
`16:58.32`	`Ghelae`	`No, 2.6298 minutes.`
`16:59.15`	`drom`	`2.6298 minutes for what?`
`16:59.28`	`Ghelae`	`For a jump drive to cross 50 billion light years.`
`16:59.38`	`drom`	`Alright`
`17:00.15`	`drom`	`Let's see the insanely ludicrous amount of universes they'd pass.`
`17:01.03`	`Ghelae`	`If you want to be more precise, the total diameter of the observable universe is 93 billion light years.`
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`17:01.26`	`drom`	`goddamnit ghel`
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`17:01.44`	`drom`	`I'm getting a stack overflow`
`17:03.40`	`Guido__`	`Good evening everyone, not new to this wiki but never seen this chat before. Are you guys still playing Spore these days? :)`
`17:03.50`	`Ghelae`	`Hello.`
`17:03.52`	`*** join/#sporewiki AndroImpy (~imperios@host-54-156-66-217.spbmts.ru)`
`17:03.59`	`drom`	`Alright, around 4.891428 minutes`
`17:04.04`	`Ghelae`	`Most people use it for the creators rather than the game.`
`17:04.12`	`drom`	`For a jump drive ship to reach 93 billion ly`
`17:04.28`	`drom`	`Circa 5 mins if you want it simplified`
`17:04.58`	`Ghelae`	`So 4 mins 53 s.`
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`17:05.16`	`drom`	`Now I need to take a step back and calculate the speed in ly/yr`
`17:05.46`	`Ghelae`	`10^16 c = 10^16 ly/yr.`
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`17:06.25`	`Guido__`	`Is the fiction universe still active? Looks interesting`
`17:06.37`	`drom`	`I used (9.310^10)/((510^10)/2.6298) in case there is any error.`
`17:07.52`	`Ghelae`	`Guido__: It's very active.Use http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges to see the most recent activity on the wiki.`
`17:08.44`	`Guido__`	`Ah thanks Ghelae, having some difficulties navigating that part of the wiki to be honest :P`
`17:09.39`	`drom`	`Welcome to Wikia`
`17:10.07`	`drom`	`From my personal experience, it is the EA of Mediawiki`
`17:13.09`	`drom`	`Ghelae: If a jump drive ship was left running for 1 year, it'd pass 107526.8817 universes.`
`17:13.21`	`drom`	`I'm uncertain if I should believe in this or not`
`17:13.33`	`Xho`	`Santorakh - my dick crosses 107526.8817 universes`
`17:13.36`	`Xho`	`Sorry had to do that`
`17:13.56`	`Ghelae`	`It is entirely fictional, so you can believe whatever you like. :P`
`17:14.13`	`drom`	`Heh`
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`17:15.44`	`drom`	`I just took the speed (now defined as distance) then divided it with the obersvable universe's total diameter.`
`17:16.16`	`External_Civ5`	`I'm getting 77 gold a turn. New record. :/`
`17:16.22`	`drom`	`Pft`
`17:16.35`	`drom`	`I got 208 GPT in my last game`
`17:16.41`	`drom`	`Because traded with me`
`17:17.29`	`External_Civ5`	`The most I ever got was in my best game, where I got over 7000 gold a turn`
`17:17.39`	`drom`	`The cities' gold output affects the trade route's wealth.`
`17:17.40`	`External_Civ5`	`EExcept my economy sucks in this game`
`17:18.28`	`External_Civ5`	`My military is so large my economy is going down.`
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`17:19.07`	`drom`	`The biggest issue I got playing as supermacy empire, too many cities to manage`
`17:19.24`	`External_Civ5`	`You mean Civ: Be?`
`17:19.36`	`drom`	`No. Civ5`
`17:19.44`	`drom`	`By supermacy, I mean big empire`
`17:19.46`	`drom`	`BIG`
`17:19.49`	`External_Civ5`	`I would love to play that, but my graphics card no let me.`
`17:19.57`	`External_Civ5`	`Oh.`
`17:20.00`	`drom`	`You'll regret it`
`17:20.20`	`External_Civ5`	`The biggest I ever had was controlling 5 continents and controlling half of the other two.`
`17:20.33`	`External_Civ5`	`Wasn't that hard.`
`17:21.29`	`drom`	`Played once as Austria and I rushed with the CS and bought them all while I could. after few turns, my tasklist was overflowed with "choose production", "construction finished", "unit need orders" and empires denouncing me for being a too big empire.`
`17:22.18`	`drom`	`Thank god for puppets, but they are useless to for defense.`
`17:22.57`	`External_Civ5`	`Well, I know that sucks. I just deactivate all of my soldiers until I need them, and I fill the cities queue with buildings. If there are no buildings, I make them convert production to gold or science.`
`17:23.17`	`drom`	`Then my machine surrended working with Civ5's logics and tasks. So it crashed few turns later.`
`17:24.14`	`drom`	`Overglorified first world problems`
`17:24.39`	`Monet`	`Xho: Reading the Forgotten Lands makes me wonder if I should bring back the ANcient Draonoggr`
`17:25.58`	`drom`	`AndroImpy: "Tinker in one picture" http://i.imgur.com/G9sr4Cl.jpg`
`17:26.38`	`AndroImpy`	`Nyash myash`
`17:29.00`	`drom`	`Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/GOmOz3L.jpg`
`17:29.30`	`drom`	`Ghel: http://i.imgur.com/AnCEOZY.png`
`17:29.43`	`Wormy_`	`Why is she taking a picture of its bum?`
`17:30.09`	`Wormy_`	`and lol`
`17:30.22`	`Wormy_`	`I want to see a plasma cat`
`17:30.49`	`drom`	`http://i.imgur.com/i8Wc70s.png`
`17:31.14`	`Wormy_`	`http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/azL64np_700b.jpg`
`17:31.18`	`Ghelae`	`The only pun I can think of about solid vs. liquid cats is "states of catter", and that's just terrible.`
`17:31.47`	`AndroImpy`	`Guys`
`17:32.01`	`AndroImpy`	`What is the name of the incest dragon family from Got?`
`17:32.23`	`Ghelae`	`I brought my plasma globe downstairs when I was home last Sunday for my nephew and dogs to see it. Only one of the dogs was interested, and he kept on trying to put his mouth around it like it was a ball he could play with.`
`17:34.01`	`AndroImpy`	`Ghelae: Is your dog's name Fenrir by any chance`
`17:34.26`	`drom`	`Ghelae Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/6CJwmE1.png`
`17:34.43`	`Ghelae`	`Sadly not. I'l suggest that if my parents ever get another one.`
`17:35.04`	`External_Civ5`	`Uh-oh...relationships are souring with three other nations...and those nations are allied...`
`17:35.22`	`External_Civ5`	`At least Germany, the Songhai, and America are my friends.`
`17:36.15`	`AndroImpy`	`Nuke them`
`17:36.26`	`Monet`	`AndroImpy: Crap the name's on the tip of my tongue`
`17:37.01`	`External_Civ5`	`AndroImpy: That will start a world war...and every nation will come after me...and I don't have nukes....`
`17:37.20`	`AndroImpy`	`Get nukes so that everyone will fear you`
`17:39.07`	`drom`	`Oh god yes! Neighborhood wars! http://imgur.com/gallery/0Ho9F`
`17:39.36`	`Wormy_`	`I would what plasma tastes like. Sticks a bit of thin metal on the globe and then licks it`
`17:39.41`	`Wormy_`	`*wonder`
`17:40.09`	`drom`	`Part two: http://imgur.com/gallery/uliQy/new`
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`17:40.21`	`Ghelae`	`The protons would taste like lemon and the electrons would taste like pain.`
`17:40.32`	`Wormy_`	`Ghelae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRmto-nH5A`
`17:41.29`	`Ghelae`	`Essentially, yes.`
`17:42.22`	`Monet`	`AndroImpy: I belive the family name is "Targeryn"`
`17:42.52`	`AndroImpy`	`Wait isn't that the gay Tajik's wife`
`17:43.09`	`drom`	`Zoinks, I'm about arrive to my end station.`
`17:43.12`	`drom`	`Bye bye`
`17:43.27`	`AndroImpy`	`As in the makeup Mongol gut`
`17:43.30`	`AndroImpy`	`Guy`
`17:44.45`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: Why u nevr no whuts goin on?`
`17:45.45`	`Monet`	`Targaryen's the proper spelling`
`17:46.21`	`Monet`	`And if you're talking about Daenerys (white-hiared girl who loves dragons) then yes`
`17:49.20`	`dino82_`	`:D`
`17:54.33`	`Xho`	`White haired girl who loves dragons`
`17:54.37`	`Xho`	`Fair description I guess`
`17:55.00`	`External_Civ5`	`Xho: Sounds like someone from a japanese anime.`
`17:55.14`	`Xho`	`Suppose s`
`17:55.14`	`Xho`	`so`
`17:55.26`	`Xho`	`Completely ignoring the fact she's like the liberal version of Hitler`
`17:56.32`	`Tek0516`	`Woo! I just got a job! :D`
`17:56.47`	`Monet`	`To be fair, a lot of peopel probably forive her due to the amount of tiem she spends topless.`
`17:59.22`	`Monet`	`And considering her novel incarnation has purple eyes`
`17:59.43`	`Monet`	`Yeaahhh admitedly that does sound solid Anime material.`
`17:59.59`	`OluapPlayer`	`Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmZcGc1KhlI`
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`18:01.52`	`Xho`	`OluapPlayer: geezush`
`18:02.10`	`OluapPlayer`	`HIT ME IN THE I`
`18:10.17`	`External_Civ5`	`I am going to equip my soldiers with rubber gloves full of small rocks and sand just so they can slap Hiawatha.`
`18:12.13`	`Tek0516`	`Which one is that?`
`18:12.55`	`External_Civ5`	`The Iroquois`
`18:13.29`	`External_Civ5`	`Second largest nation, above me. Except I am tens of times more militarily powerful than him.`
`18:13.35`	`Tek0516`	`Ah`
`18:15.10`	`External_Civ5`	`I have 10 turns to prepare for war against him, and I will use it by making my cities develop soldiers.`
`18:15.37`	`Xho`	`If anyone makes any Star Wars jokes tomorrow I will punch you`
`18:16.17`	`Monet`	`I don't even know how May 4th = Star wars apart from a really bad pun`
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`18:17.43`	`Xho`	`That is the joke I am referencing`
`18:17.50`	`Monet`	`Oh right.`
`18:17.56`	`Monet`	`I don't find it that funny either`
`18:17.57`	`Monet`	`And hi`
`18:18.10`	`Xho`	`rabit`
`18:21.43`	`Xho`	`Hachiman: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e0/Vultusk2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150503143005 Remade Vultusk`
`18:22.29`	`OluapPlayer`	`Hachi's afk`
`18:22.42`	`Xho`	`but y his dam irc do dat den`
`18:22.44`	`Xho`	`stoopid`
`18:23.34`	`OluapPlayer`	`His client connects automatically`
`18:24.11`	`Xho`	`dum`
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`18:30.48`	`Imperios`	`Hi`
`18:31.10`	`Xho`	`Hi`
`18:31.22`	`Xho`	`I should really make more individuals for the Order of the Black Sun`
`18:31.22`	`Imperios`	`Monet: The reason I mentioned the Targaryens iearliers s because I thought of expanding on the Klaxxa and emphasising the role of nobility in their society`
`18:32.08`	`Xho`	`There is potentially two I can make`
`18:32.15`	`Xho`	`High Priest of Death and High Priest of Undeath`
`18:32.23`	`Xho`	`They kind of hate each other`
`18:32.56`	`OluapPlayer`	`Imp go work on your Fog War plot pls`
`18:33.12`	`Monet`	`well Targaryens do bear evidence of incest.`
`18:33.39`	`Imperios`	`Oh that too`
`18:33.43`	`Imperios`	`But first get gains`
`18:34.04`	`Monet`	`Can't remember if they have any actual draconic heritage or if its just an urban legend to explain the house's affinity with dragons.`
`18:34.07`	`Imperios`	`Must be sexy`
`18:34.13`	`Xho`	`Just affinity`
`18:34.19`	`Xho`	`They do have some magical power over them though`
`18:34.34`	`Xho`	`Daenerys does anyway`
`18:34.47`	`Xho`	`As in immune to the effects of fire`
`18:34.49`	`Monet`	`I can see hoe that may translate into draocnic heritage unless I'm mistaken about that as well`
`18:35.22`	`Xho`	`I need to remake the Order of the Black Sun's emblem`
`18:35.23`	`Xho`	`Hm`
`18:35.28`	`Xho`	`How to do this`
`18:35.40`	`Monet`	`Westeros is a very believable medieval fantasy world. And the presence of legends about certai nfamilies, even if false, helps that`
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`18:35.48`	`Xho`	`getting ideas bad ones`
`18:36.02`	`Monet`	`Dragons and elvles aren't real but peasants of te day believed they were anyway`
`18:36.05`	`The_Randomness`	`Hello`
`18:36.07`	`Monet`	`elves*`
`18:36.10`	`Monet`	`Hello`
`18:36.53`	`OluapPlayer`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Marinoxidiz Gave this page a much needed rewrite`
`18:37.53`	`Imperios`	`Nyan`
`18:38.13`	`Imperios`	`Will you remake them BTW? I think they need to look more imposing`
`18:38.36`	`Monet`	`Imperios: Anyway, what were you thinking for expansion Impy?`
`18:39.24`	`OluapPlayer`	`I'm happy with their current appearance so not really`
`18:39.53`	`Imperios`	`Well I expressed that idea before but I thought of giving the Klaxxa an aristocratic hierarchy based on how much true draconic blood they have, with the nobles looking more draconic and the commoners more lizard-like`
`18:41.21`	`Monet`	`Hmm, given the Victorian inspiration I'd say it works`
`18:42.25`	`Monet`	`http://vichist.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/aristocracy.html this looks interesting`
`18:43.15`	`Imperios`	`Also I thought of giving the Klaxxa a queen who would basically look like a huge Oriental-esque dragon crossed with Smaug`
`18:44.10`	`OluapPlayer`	`Queen - shamefur dispray u all`
`18:45.08`	`Monet`	`The proportion of draocnic blood works well with the historical concept of being "blude-blooded"`
`18:45.21`	`Monet`	`blue-blooded*`
`18:45.22`	`The_Randomness`	`wb`
`18:45.42`	`Monet`	`And you didn't have to be part of the immediate royal family to be considered in line for the throne`
`18:47.59`	`Imperios`	`I thought of making the queen have a harem made out of members of several most important royal houses, one of which would be eventually chosen to father the next queen`
`18:48.21`	`OluapPlayer`	`So the queen is the top dog of the Klaxxa now`
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`18:48.54`	`Imperios`	`Not sure if she'd have absolute power, she could be just a figurehead or a limited ruler, a la Britain`
`18:48.58`	`Imperios`	`I still want to keep Arken-Lak`
`18:49.08`	`OluapPlayer`	`I was gonna ask what was gonna happen to him`
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`18:49.17`	`OluapPlayer`	`And by extension to Dyniroth`
`18:49.30`	`Imperios`	`Probably a prime minister or a chancellor`
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`18:50.06`	`Imperios`	`Dyniroth will probably be an honourary member of the house that traces its ancestry to the Fire Drakes`
`18:50.19`	`OluapPlayer`	`Well yeah he IS a Fire Drake hur`
`18:50.37`	`OluapPlayer`	`Oh wait you mean the Klaxxa with Fire Drake ancestry`
`18:50.38`	`drom`	`Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/djTuIN6.gif`
`18:50.40`	`OluapPlayer`	`Right`
`18:51.09`	`OluapPlayer`	`I get the image of Sand Drake-born Klaxxa having tiny arms but huge wings`
`18:51.33`	`Monet`	`Wel laccording to that article, Victorian nobility focused a lot on "the season", a time of the year when young ladies would make themselves presentable to men looking for a good wife. It was a time of politics, presentation, silver tongues and rigid etiquette`
`18:52.00`	`Monet`	`Maybe Klaxxa society is the opposite? Instead of women being groomed, its' the men?`
`18:52.07`	`OluapPlayer`	`Thatd' be silly so perhaps not hur`
`18:52.40`	`Imperios`	`Hur`
`18:52.57`	`Imperios`	`Monet: Actually it'd make a lot of sense for them to be somewhat matriarchal`
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`18:53.01`	`OluapPlayer`	`I don't know if these dragon-blooded Klaxxa will be different from the others to begin with`
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`18:55.26`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Hi everyone`
`18:55.32`	`The_Randomness`	`Hello`
`18:55.50`	`Imperios`	`Well I think that most named Klaxxa are nobles so they have some dragon blood to begin with`
`18:56.46`	`drom`	`Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/KTwSMJj.jpg`
`18:56.47`	`OluapPlayer`	`I mean appearance-wise`
`18:57.06`	`Tek0516`	`O.o`
`18:58.38`	`Monet`	`Could be similar to how different this guy http://www.gomultiplayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/WildStar-Cassian-5.jpg compares to this guy http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xnq0RTd13YU/maxresdefault.jpg`
`18:58.40`	`drom`	`Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/5YYRNTn.jpg`
`18:58.58`	`Imperios`	`Appearance-wise, scale colour and some minor features`
`18:59.15`	`Monet`	`So dragon-blooded Klaxxa coudl be considered more sexy lol`
`18:59.51`	`DrodoEmpire`	`test`
`19:00.00`	`Imperios`	`My fiction's Cassians are probably Alhassans hur`
`19:00.16`	`OluapPlayer`	`Nothing extreme then`
`19:00.20`	`OluapPlayer`	`Right`
`19:00.27`	`Monet`	`But....`
`19:00.30`	`Monet`	`Cassians are British`
`19:01.31`	`Wormy_`	`drom: Me when I lose a wiki page.`
`19:01.51`	`Monet`	`Although granted when your ladies look more monstrous than your men, meastial features could be seen as sexy`
`19:01.51`	`Wormy_`	`Except I use a pint sized mug`
`19:02.58`	`Imperios`	`They're Cassians in that they're cultured, sophisticated and arrogant`
`19:03.05`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Wormy: For a split second I thought you meant you went on a Jihad for it. Then I realized the second picture`
`19:03.28`	`Wormy_`	`lol`
`19:03.48`	`Wormy_`	`Not quite that level of angry.`
`19:03.59`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Yeah lol`
`19:05.03`	`Wormy_`	`hopes NSA won't make the same mistake.`
`19:07.37`	`Monet`	`I had wondered about including a suggestion that Draconis could see bearing traits of the original species as a sign of noble heritage`
`19:08.11`	`Monet`	`Slight problem is...In my fiction at least I've established that, parring essence interaction, relationships strong enough to gain that just wouldn't happen`
`19:08.42`	`Wormy_`	`When I search "James Bond" on MI6's website I get no results. No sense of humour!`
`19:08.46`	`Monet`	`Sorta settled for explaining that those with the resources and money enhance their genetics to develop facsimile traits`
`19:09.13`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Wormy: hur`
`19:09.24`	`drom`	`Jo: MOBA players are creative: http://i.imgur.com/3ojk4LZ.png`
`19:14.09`	`drom`	`http://imgur.com/gallery/GLZLJ`
`19:18.18`	`Technobliterator`	`wat`
`19:18.41`	`drom`	`Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/Ebf1uh9.gif`
`19:19.26`	`Monet`	`drom: That man just ate from something as dirty as a toilet.`
`19:19.52`	`Wormy_`	`Eugh I can imagine all his beard hairs mixed up in that`
`19:20.03`	`Monet`	`Although this now makes me wonder`
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`19:20.13`	`External_Civ5`	`Hello`
`19:20.14`	`Wormy_`	`Anyway, I have often bought that sauce`
`19:20.49`	`Monet`	`With al lthe stuff that's "more filthy than a toilet" how dirty exactly are most toilets?`
`19:21.14`	`External_Civ5`	`What sauce?`
`19:22.01`	`Wormy_`	`Well, I think it only applies because toilets are more likely to be cleaned more often, than phones or keyboards. They are also smooth surfaces, while the cracks in chopping boards create environments soap can't reach.#`
`19:22.47`	`External_Civ5`	`Are you talking about that "Beards are filthier than toilets"?`
`19:23.22`	`Imperios`	`Listened to Peter Jackson's voice`
`19:23.24`	`Wormy_`	`The problem with toilets is that when people flush loads of the shit particles and bacteria get thrown across the room.`
`19:23.28`	`Imperios`	`Is he a Brit or an Aussie or something`
`19:23.50`	`drom`	`Probably both`
`19:23.53`	`Wormy_`	`Aussie I believe, or a Kiwi`
`19:24.19`	`Wormy_`	`Kiwi`
`19:24.24`	`drom`	`Wormy_: That's why I always close the lib before I flush`
`19:24.25`	`Imperios`	`Kiwi right`
`19:24.27`	`drom`	`lid*`
`19:24.38`	`Wormy_`	`A posh New Zealand accent also sounds like a posh British accent.`
`19:24.58`	`Wormy_`	`drom: I sometimes do but I like to wash it swirl down the toilet`
`19:25.31`	`Wormy_`	`probably shouldn't say that`
`19:25.50`	`The_Randomness`	`lol`
`19:26.13`	`drom`	`My fear of getting toliet water on myself when flushing with open lid really pays off.`
`19:26.52`	`Wormy_`	`Yeah but that might happen anyway with its a big bob`
`19:27.52`	`Wormy_`	`Most people make sex jokes here. I do not, but I make toilet jokes instead.`
`19:28.02`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: I now have over 4,000 gold per turn coming in.`
`19:28.07`	`External_Civ5`	`BEAT DAT`
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`19:28.11`	`drom`	`Good for you`
`19:28.34`	`drom`	`Monet: http://i.imgur.com/hXhZsvX.webm`
`19:29.20`	`drom`	`"Mine"`
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`19:30.32`	`External_Civ5`	`I'm about to nuke the Iroquois.`
`19:31.15`	`Monet`	`drom: Bleeter 10 seconds later: Fuckin' pigeon just stole my car #thievingpigeons #whatishappeningtothiscity #wtf`
`19:32.07`	`drom`	`It is a gull`
`19:32.52`	`Monet`	`It was a tiny gif`
`19:32.57`	`drom`	`So I just found this as well. http://imgur.com/gallery/c3B5evr`
`19:34.29`	`Wormy_`	`best thing on the internets`
`19:36.57`	`Wormy_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:37.07`	`Wormy_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:37.20`	`Ghel`	`I have no idea.`
`19:37.35`	`Ghel`	`Someone delusional, I guess.`
`19:37.45`	`Ghel`	`Delusional enough to assume we all know who they are`
`19:37.54`	`Ghel`	`and delusional enough to think they need to be blocked.`
`19:39.23`	`Wormy_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.37`	`Ghel`	`If you don't want to be on the wiki, just don't visit it. I assume they're trying to make a point of complaint against the wiki for some bizarre reason.`
`19:39.40`	`Wormy_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.53`	`Ghel`	`I agree.`
`19:40.34`	`External_Civ5`	`Ghel: Almost every human in the world has some degree of stupid.`
`19:41.01`	`Ghel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:41.30`	`External_Civ5`	`Why was he on my ban warning?`
`19:41.58`	`Ghel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:42.58`	`External_Civ5`	`Can you even block someone who doesn't have an account?`
`19:43.14`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Yes.`
`19:43.24`	`Wormy_`	`Yes`
`19:44.00`	`Wormy_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:44.18`	`drom`	`Monet: GTA:O in a nutshell http://i.imgur.com/EHGglV7.jpg`
`19:46.52`	`Ghel`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:47.28`	`dino82_`	`BYE bye`
`19:47.29`	`dino82_`	`have to go`
`19:47.31`	`The_Randomness`	`bye`
`19:47.48`	`Ghel`	`thread*`
`19:47.51`	`Wormy_`	`Right, I'm off to the pub`
`19:47.54`	`External_Civ5`	`Thanks Ghel. The reason why I removed the previous ones was because I didn't think they served any more purpose and I didn't think they needed to stuff the message wall.`
`19:48.29`	`Ghel`	`Jo and I discussed this earlier and it seems that the general consensus is that it's okay to do that on your own wall if it's not an admin message.`
`19:48.34`	`Wormy_`	`Actually in a bit`
`19:49.54`	`External_Civ5`	`Ghel: That's basically it, and I thought that if it was a request, and I followed through with it, I could remove it.`
`19:51.14`	`Ghel`	`Was it on your wall?`
`19:52.28`	`Imperios`	`http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/94/Nightmare_Lamprey.png/revision/latest?cb=20150503145216 HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THIS`
`19:53.00`	`Ghel`	`Oluap's worst nightmare, apparently. Lampreys with legs.`
`19:53.03`	`External_Civ5`	`Ghel: 2 were on my wall, and the other 2 were on Xhos.`
`19:53.27`	`External_Civ5`	`Imperios: That's oluaps creation.`
`19:53.27`	`OluapPlayer`	`hur`
`19:53.33`	`External_Civ5`	`I'd run away from it.`
`19:53.45`	`Ghel`	`So on what are now official rules (unless the community agrees they should be changed), the first two were okay to remove but the second two were not.`
`19:53.49`	`Imperios`	`http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/66/Empress_of_the_Steel_Age.png/revision/latest?cb=20150503195312 So, this`
`19:53.59`	`Imperios`	`What do you think`
`19:54.12`	`OluapPlayer`	`That looks great`
`19:54.26`	`External_Civ5`	`Ghel: That clears it up.`
`19:54.26`	`Monet`	`Archavior - I might bang dat`
`19:55.00`	`Imperios`	`Empress - ew peasant`
`19:56.21`	`Monet`	`Archavior - Oh so you don't want babies of a mountain lord?`
`19:57.16`	`External_Civ5`	`I have completed the Manhatten project and I have uranium. Not to mention I am so much more technologically advanced than the rest.`
`19:57.20`	`External_Civ5`	`NUKEZ`
`19:58.27`	`OluapPlayer`	`Vixaatus 0 6/10 would eet sand witg`
`19:58.29`	`OluapPlayer`	`with`
`19:59.21`	`Monet`	`How old is the current queen?`
`20:03.10`	`Imperios`	`Hm, probably a few centuries, give or take`
`20:03.31`	`External_Civ5`	`olol`
`20:07.23`	`drom`	`Imperios: You sound like Patrick`
`20:08.52`	`drom`	`http://i.imgur.com/xA3We1g.jpg`
`20:10.08`	`External_Civ5`	`drom: dum`
`20:11.02`	`External_Civ5`	`Ghel: Is it okay if I can create separate realms for the Nathierm religion?`
`20:12.18`	`Ghel`	`As in seperate "planes of existence"? The Nathierm can certainly believe in them, but saying that they actually exist is going to be less popular.`
`20:12.40`	`External_Civ5`	`Yeah, that.`
`20:13.10`	`Ghel`	`Generally new users aren't going to be trusted with bringing something so major into the fictionverse's cosmology.`
`20:13.52`	`Ghel`	`And most older users would be hesistant about it.`
`20:14.31`	`*** join/#sporewiki Aeo (ad1367c7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.19.103.199)`
`20:14.38`	`Ghel`	`Hello.`
`20:15.00`	`External_Civ5`	`I intend to have the gods and demons actually real, but they will never interact directly with the Fiction universe, like the most I want them to interact and be in the fiction universe is every thousand years, one person MAY see one of those demons or gods.`
`20:15.21`	`External_Civ5`	`Hey.`
`20:15.29`	`The_Randomness`	`Oh dear`
`20:15.37`	`OluapPlayer`	`New gods are not allowed`
`20:15.42`	`The_Randomness`	`I thought that we explicitly stated no more physical gods`
`20:16.09`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Randomness: To be fair the Fictionverse rules are hard to find and only seldom updated`
`20:16.16`	`External_Civ5`	`I didn't say physical, besides, they don't HAVE to be real, just be part of the religion.`
`20:16.59`	`The_Randomness`	`If they interact at all with the universe, they are physical.`
`20:17.16`	`The_Randomness`	`But if they're just part of the culture's religion, that's perfectly fine.`
`20:17.38`	`Ghel`	`Supernatural beings can be allowed, particularly as ascended beings but not as major universal entities; if they are going to be real it would be best to not state that they have any cosmic significance.`
`20:17.43`	`Technobliterator`	`ugh`
`20:17.49`	`Technobliterator`	`this "ban me for longer" guy`
`20:17.55`	`Technobliterator`	`: \|`
`20:18.02`	`Ghel`	`Yeah.`
`20:18.10`	`External_Civ5`	`I deleted those posts on my ban warning.`
`20:18.18`	`External_Civ5`	`That was just mean.`
`20:18.54`	`drom`	`I actually don't know all the rules and I never knew about them from the beginning. I learnt them by lurking around and learning from the trends and then spending time with you after I was told to go to IRC.`
`20:19.08`	`Xho`	`Basic rule: Don't be an idiot`
`20:19.16`	`drom`	`Aye`
`20:19.28`	`Technobliterator`	`it wasn't a ban warning, External`
`20:19.44`	`Charles_Murray`	`test`
`20:19.52`	`The_Randomness`	`To be honest most of our rules are almost identical to those in just about any other RP setting.`
`20:19.55`	`drom`	`If I had any concerns or questions regarding what was allowed and what wasn't. I came to here and asked.`
`20:20.43`	`Technobliterator`	`Most of the rules are more-or-less common sense`
`20:20.48`	`The_Randomness`	`yeah`
`20:21.11`	`Technobliterator`	`who is the "ban me for longer guy" anyway`
`20:21.13`	`Technobliterator`	`Chantal?`
`20:21.27`	`Charles_Murray`	`As someone who came from an rp setting, they're -similar-, but by no means identical.`
`20:21.42`	`Ghel`	`It's someone who thinks enough of themselves to assume we know who they are even when we don't.`
`20:21.45`	`The_Randomness`	`true, I should've said that instead`
`20:21.52`	`External_Civ5`	`Some people here thought that person was Goruto.`
`20:22.23`	`External_Civ5`	`That spartan guy?`
`20:22.26`	`drom`	`I don't really care who he/she is, just don't feed the troll.`
`20:22.32`	`Xho`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Pyyls%27as Completely forgot I had this character`
`20:22.39`	`Technobliterator`	`mhm`
`20:22.44`	`OluapPlayer`	`ya eejit`
`20:22.44`	`Technobliterator`	`It's not Spartian, definitely not`
`20:22.55`	`Technobliterator`	`grammar is too good to be spartian`
`20:23.04`	`The_Randomness`	`heh`
`20:23.26`	`Ghel`	`Gort the Grox? He's the obsessive type who made his own wiki to insult us on the front page. :P`
`20:23.38`	`Xho`	`hih`
`20:23.53`	`Xho`	`Imperios: If possible I might use Pyyls'as when we get around to the Outworld artifacts`
`20:23.58`	`External_Civ5`	`olol vburn`
`20:24.00`	`Imperios`	`Right`
`20:24.01`	`Xho`	`If you have any ideas that is`
`20:24.04`	`Technobliterator`	`could be, but Gort is more inflammatory`
`20:24.21`	`Technobliterator`	`I think it's Chantal`
`20:24.47`	`Imperios`	`http://demotivation.me/images/20131110/k85spz8412vc.jpg Dark Lord Putin`
`20:25.19`	`External_Civ5`	`I noticed his behavior towards Drodo in March. So yes, that would not be Gort because there were no swear words.`
`20:25.32`	`drom`	`Imperios: That applies to all other cities as well.`
`20:25.58`	`Imperios`	`Admittedly we are the only country which has a region called "Mordovia"`
`20:26.08`	`drom`	`Every city is a bloody gate to hell place at the night`
`20:27.11`	`Ghel`	`The fact that the first message from that IP address was on Goruto's wall might seem to imply that it's Goruto, but the fact that the message ended with "you know who I am" heavily suggests otherwise, since there'd be no need to say that on your own wall.`
`20:27.53`	`Ghel`	`Chantal certainly seems a reasonable option.`
`20:28.02`	`Ghel`	`Said message was two days after their ban ended.`
`20:28.04`	`OluapPlayer`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Corruptus/Demons#Nightmare_Lamprey squish`
`20:28.22`	`Technobliterator`	`Mhm`
`20:28.25`	`External_Civ5`	`drom aeo: https://www.facebook.com/BestofVines/videos/551900674977217/`
`20:29.01`	`Ghel`	`"Weapon: that mouth that oluap finds really creepy"`
`20:29.27`	`OluapPlayer`	`Why of course`
`20:29.43`	`OluapPlayer`	`if you have a horrifying radial mouth you might as well make use of it`
`20:31.22`	`External_Civ5`	`test`
`20:31.59`	`drom`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:32.03`	`Imperios`	`Hachiman: http://lurkmore.so/images/6/6a/The-dark-lord-plays.jpg`
`20:32.16`	`Xho`	`I have a lot of evil characters when I see it`
`20:32.41`	`Imperios`	`http://lurkmore.so/images/3/3a/One_nation_under_cthulhu.jpg Not sure if awesome or horrible`
`20:32.50`	`Imperios`	`But as a Russian I approve`
`20:33.20`	`OluapPlayer`	`Cthulhu - you guys fucked up big time now`
`20:33.50`	`Xho`	`18 evil characters to 12 good characters`
`20:34.07`	`Ghel`	`Need three more evil characters and you've got a full set.`
`20:34.33`	`OluapPlayer`	`12 good`
`20:34.38`	`OluapPlayer`	`You mean 11 less evil + Pelagrios`
`20:34.43`	`Xho`	`hur`
`20:34.48`	`External_Civ5`	`olol`
`20:35.33`	`Xho`	`I am counting god characters as well`
`20:35.42`	`Xho`	`I have 9 good characters not counting`
`20:35.52`	`Xho`	`Pelagrios, Riad, Septimus, Longinus, Ndrhthryr, Taihadrae, Esulus, Khaadun and Mhor being my good characters`
`20:35.59`	`Xho`	`As for evil characters hm`
`20:36.03`	`Imperios`	`It's a dark redrawing of an American patriotic painting I think`
`20:36.06`	`OluapPlayer`	`Everyone else`
`20:36.10`	`Imperios`	`http://www.shortpacked.com/McNaughton%20Fine%20Art_files/one_nation_under_God(1).jpg this`
`20:36.40`	`Imperios`	`http://lurkmore.so/images/3/3a/One_nation_under_cthulhu.jpg Compare and contrast`
`20:36.46`	`Xho`	`11 evil characters`
`20:37.37`	`Xho`	`Vanguard, Penumbra, Kalarah, Valentinianus, Leviathan, Qarmunr, Janos, Savant, Bone-Breaker and Pyyls'as`
`20:37.45`	`Xho`	`Missing one there`
`20:38.08`	`Xho`	`Nalo Soren as well I guess`
`20:38.31`	`OluapPlayer`	`I have more evil chars than you hur`
`20:38.38`	`OluapPlayer`	`Granted not all of them have separate pages`
`20:38.50`	`Xho`	`So 9 good characters, 11 evil characters, 5 neutral characters`
`20:39.12`	`Xho`	`dam u ups`
`20:39.29`	`Xho`	`Oh wait no, Ka-is in place of Nalo Soren`
`20:39.34`	`Xho`	`6 neutral then`
`20:39.55`	`Xho`	`Marius, Annamasakkan, Caedes, Vultusk, Nalo Soren and Kinmorunddraver`
`20:40.04`	`External_Civ5`	`I'm getting confused here.`
`20:41.02`	`Xho`	`As for god characters the ratio is pretty heavy`
`20:41.23`	`The_Randomness`	`hur`
`20:41.26`	`OluapPlayer`	`Praenuntius, Princeps, Confectrix, Atrocius, Tibias, Mudpriest, Petroatragal, N'hali, Hamoins, Kebra'Osos, Xacutus, Wrugrak, Avakorah, Rahkavarh, Nercyvrus, Asemath and Mentiryanth`
`20:41.28`	`OluapPlayer`	`big evil dong`
`20:41.45`	`Xho`	`many ebuls`
`20:41.59`	`OluapPlayer`	`biggest dong being Hamoins`
`20:42.02`	`OluapPlayer`	`'s`
`20:42.08`	`Xho`	`Caligaduro, Makkarast, Kaicaiusarin, NalÃºnt, Sanguapraegrandis, AkhemazdrÃs for evil gods`
`20:42.43`	`Xho`	`Soldalatel, Aethereus, Nalashtannylor, Kartansimal for good gods`
`20:42.55`	`OluapPlayer`	`gud guds`
`20:42.55`	`Xho`	`Asv-Aldz and Samayapalaka for neutral`
`20:43.59`	`Xho`	`So Caligaduro, Makkarast, Kaicaiusarin, NalÃºnt, Sanguapraegrandis, AkhemazdrÃs, Vanguard, Penumbra, Kalarah, Valentinianus, Leviathan, Qarmunr, Janos, Savant, Bone-Breaker and Pyyls'as`
`20:44.06`	`Xho`	`lotsa long names`
`20:44.45`	`OluapPlayer`	`Janos - my name is the longestr`
`20:45.21`	`*** join/#sporewiki Quak8 (3f5cf6f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.63.92.246.249)`
`20:45.33`	`Quak8`	`Hello.`
`20:45.39`	`Ghel`	`Hello.`
`20:46.22`	`Imperios`	`Does not work for me`
`20:46.39`	`Imperios`	`Most of my main factions are morally ambiguous so yeah not sure about them`
`20:47.07`	`OluapPlayer`	`Too morally ambiguous is boring hur`
`20:47.10`	`Xho`	`Oh I was just listing the clear divide between those who serve Caligaduro and those who done`
`20:47.12`	`Xho`	`don't`
`20:47.21`	`Xho`	`Right down to it a good 90% of them are assholes`
`20:47.46`	`OluapPlayer`	`I'm all for complex personalities but I can also work with certainly good/evil`
`20:48.08`	`OluapPlayer`	`And I forgot to list Kimorgos, who is 100% evil, in the evil dong list so there's that`
`20:48.10`	`OluapPlayer`	`fuk ur shit`
`20:49.00`	`Imperios`	`Well Lucretia and Pedro are more malevolent`
`20:49.23`	`Xho`	`Not quite sure who the most evil character of mine is`
`20:49.28`	`Xho`	`Caligaduro of course but apart from Caligaduro`
`20:49.34`	`OluapPlayer`	`I was gonna say hur`
`20:50.07`	`OluapPlayer`	`Most evil of mine is definitely Xacutus`
`20:50.15`	`External_Civ5`	`Imma guess it's one of the Simulacra, Xho.`
`20:50.25`	`External_Civ5`	`Or Angazhar.`
`20:50.31`	`Xho`	`Fantasyverse characters`
`20:50.37`	`External_Civ5`	`Oluap: What about Vargash?`
`20:50.38`	`Xho`	`The most evil Fictionverse character I have is Santorakh`
`20:50.39`	`Imperios`	`Most evil would probably be either Lucretia or that Inquisitor guy in Prophet Stone`
`20:50.49`	`Imperios`	`The one who teaches kid inquisitors`
`20:50.50`	`External_Civ5`	`Santorakh?`
`20:50.57`	`Imperios`	`Cheese be upon him`
`20:50.59`	`Xho`	`The crazy cheese loving one`
`20:51.24`	`Xho`	`But yeah Santorakh's insanity degree is level with his moral blackness degree`
`20:51.26`	`External_Civ5`	`I know, but seriously, between Santorakh and Angazhar, I think Angazhar is the most evil one.`
`20:51.31`	`OluapPlayer`	`Vargash is malicious but Xacutus is completely mad and wants to destroy the world because he hates it that much`
`20:51.46`	`Xho`	`Caligaduro - c dis bitch is wat u shuld be fukn disappointment`
`20:52.00`	`OluapPlayer`	`Vargash - hes also fukin retarded tho`
`20:52.43`	`External_Civ5`	`I just saved Songhai from destruction, and a turn later, their leader denounces me.`
`20:52.47`	`External_Civ5`	`Fucking idiot.`
`20:52.53`	`Xho`	`Well we could go into the age-old discussion of Xhodocto morality but Santorakh appears to be the most evil one`
`20:52.58`	`Xho`	`Angazhar's fairly straightforward`
`20:53.00`	`External_Civ5`	`I'll go back and flatten the damned remainsa.`
`20:53.17`	`External_Civ5`	`Draguros?`
`20:53.24`	`*** join/#sporewiki Comrade_Vinny (b8a1360d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.161.54.13)`
`20:53.25`	`Xho`	`Draguros is neutral as you can get`
`20:53.27`	`External_Civ5`	`Anzilanarus?`
`20:53.37`	`Xho`	`Krath is closer to good when I think about it`
`20:53.47`	`Xho`	`In Xhodocto terms anyway`
`20:53.54`	`OluapPlayer`	`He's closer to law if anything`
`20:53.57`	`OluapPlayer`	`And law is not always good`
`20:54.08`	`Xho`	`Well Krath's OCD is pretty creepy`
`20:54.22`	`Xho`	`Even scratch marks in Arx' floor are perfectly rectangular`
`20:54.32`	`External_Civ5`	`Creates a whole realm just so something can be completely perfect'`
`20:55.00`	`Xho`	`Anzilanarus I guess is quite evil though of all characters he isn't very well developed at all`
`20:55.10`	`Xho`	`None of my Fictionverse villains really are`
`20:55.42`	`Xho`	`Not much of my Fictionverse characters in general are`
`20:55.49`	`Xho`	`Which is why I prefer Fantasyverse`
`20:56.25`	`External_Civ5`	`Even though you have a whole army of demons who can burn an entire universe?`
`20:56.29`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`Hey guys!`
`20:56.56`	`Xho`	`I have universe burning demons in both metaverses`
`20:57.10`	`Xho`	`Well actually with Caligaduro it's more like universe freezing`
`20:57.53`	`Xho`	`It's strange because Caligaduro manifests in some crazy hellfire on Koldenwelt though the Chaosphere is like Siberia-cold`
`20:58.30`	`OluapPlayer`	`Caligaduro - THERMAL SHOCK TIME`
`20:58.32`	`Xho`	`Speaking of realms we should have a page on all of the realms`
`20:58.40`	`Xho`	`Or a section on the Simulacrum page`
`20:58.42`	`Imperios`	`Siberia-cold`
`20:58.43`	`Xho`	`That would work better`
`20:58.52`	`Imperios`	`Caligaduro lives in realm of manliness`
`20:59.10`	`Xho`	`Caligaduro - my denizens are made of indestructible rock of course they're fucking manly`
`20:59.21`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`External_Civ5: Hi newcomer! :p`
`20:59.39`	`OluapPlayer`	`That's a thing we can have, yes`
`20:59.39`	`Imperios`	`Hm`
`21:00.08`	`OluapPlayer`	`Caligaduro - SUN MAGIC BABIES FEAR IN PRESENCE OF BIG VOID MEN`
`21:00.39`	`Imperios`	`I wonder, guys, can you explain to me the whole "EU/BRITAIN IS OVERRUN BY MUSLIMS/BLACKS/WHATEVER" craze that I often hear from people both in Europe and in Russia`
`21:00.46`	`Xho`	`Basically`
`21:00.49`	`Xho`	`UK is racist`
`21:00.51`	`OluapPlayer`	`I can't hur`
`21:00.54`	`Imperios`	`I mean is it just pure paranoia or is there genuienly a problem ther`
`21:01.01`	`Xho`	`It's paranoia really`
`21:01.20`	`Xho`	`We've got an apparent immigration crisis and people are taking it as racially offensive`
`21:01.54`	`Imperios`	`We had a problem with high immigration rates causing ethnic violence in the early 2000s - though admittedly in our case the minorities were more threatened than the majorities`
`21:02.21`	`Imperios`	`What do you mean by "immigration crisis" exactly?`
`21:03.09`	`Xho`	`Overpopulation and unemployment crisis specifically`
`21:03.53`	`Monet`	`And the Muslim crisis is probably partially to do with the reports of terrorists being regularly caugt in britain.`
`21:04.26`	`Ghel`	`The common anti-immigration conception is that Britain is being flooded with immigrants who want our NHS and benefits without having to work or pay taxes.`
`21:04.30`	`Monet`	`That and recently a local London borough mayor (who was a Muslim) was accused for threatening his ocnstituents to vote for him.`
`21:04.31`	`TekDroid`	`^`
`21:04.54`	`Ghel`	`Some less affluent areas also seem to have problems of poor cultural mixing leading to ethnic tensions. In other areas multiculturalism works just fine, but that doesn't make for such good news stories.`
`21:05.13`	`Monet`	`Nice is hardly ever reported.`
`21:05.29`	`Monet`	`It really brings credance to the phrase "no news is good news"`
`21:06.08`	`Aeo`	`Technobliterator: Could I have your permission to edit other people's message templates and message posts putely to remove the "Meta" issue? I know this would normally be against the rules, but I think this case warrants an exception because 1: the glitch makes UDB threads involving Meta templates simi-unreadable and 2: It's safe, I think, to say no one would mind.`
`21:06.10`	`Imperios`	`That's what I find strange, whenever there's immigrant-related crime people get crazy yet they forget than 90% IRL they're okay, at least in my case`
`21:06.31`	`Technobliterator`	`You don't need my permission to make fixes`
`21:06.37`	`Aeo`	`Okay then`
`21:06.39`	`Aeo`	`Thank you.`
`21:08.55`	`Imperios`	`So basically you have too many immigrants basically`
`21:09.00`	`Imperios`	`Or too many people`
`21:09.04`	`Imperios`	`Something like that`
`21:09.57`	`Ghel`	`Too many racists.`
`21:10.01`	`The_Randomness`	`^`
`21:10.05`	`The_Randomness`	`I was about to suggest that`
`21:10.23`	`*** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~imperios@95.140.92.93)`
`21:10.47`	`Xho`	`Probably a bit of both from an ambiguous view`
`21:10.50`	`Xho`	`Or majorly dickish`
`21:10.51`	`Xho`	`Take your pick`
`21:11.10`	`Ghel`	`There are immigrants who do cause the problems that we've mentioned.`
`21:11.30`	`Technobliterator`	`and too many fascist fucks`
`21:12.21`	`Imperios`	`Wait`
`21:12.36`	`Imperios`	`So you have a high unemployment rate, right`
`21:12.40`	`Imperios`	`So too many people basically`
`21:13.20`	`Imperios`	`Like we do not have enough people because Russia's very sparsely inhabited, that's why we have a low unemployment rate and many immigrants`
`21:13.58`	`Ghel`	`I'm not sure if "too many people" is absolutely the main reason for the unemployment rate, although large numbers of people applying for small numbers of jobs doesn't help.`
`21:14.36`	`ImpyDroid`	`So like in our country then`
`21:14.54`	`Ghel`	`And there certainly seems to be too many people for the NHS to cope with. But there's also the state of the economy in general affecting the jobs market, and NHS's budget.`
`21:14.55`	`ImpyDroid`	`Everyone is ambitious as fuck so we need immigrants to do the dirty job`
`21:17.14`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`Economically speaking, xenophobia is just stupid...`
`21:17.53`	`ImpyDroid`	`Also our main national trait is being lazy as fuck`
`21:18.08`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`Unless an immigrant is handicaped a way or another, more pair of hands in the industry CANNOT be bad.`
`21:19.00`	`Monet`	`People in the UK think we're drowning in immigrants yet non-whites only make up about 12% of the nation's population.`
`21:19.32`	`Monet`	`And that's including second, third and fourth generation non-whites.`
`21:19.43`	`Comrade_Vinny`	`The only conceivable way anti-immigration policies could be reasonnable, would be "immigration increase criminality"`
`21:20.11`	`drom`	`TekDroid: You probably should do a PGPS essay with the mathematical formula for the Andasium production. xD`
`21:21.12`	`ImpyDroid`	`Monet: I think the ratio is higher in cities`
`21:21.24`	`ImpyDroid`	`That and people react crazily to foreign faces`
`21:21.28`	`Monet`	`True`
`21:21.44`	`Monet`	`There was a survey that revealed London's population to be 47% white`
`21:22.19`	`ImpyDroid`	`Here it's... Frankly I am not sure`
`21:22.19`	`Monet`	`But what do you expect form one of the most important cities in global fianance?`
`21:22.37`	`ImpyDroid`	`Here the line between whiteness and non-whiteness is harder to distinguish`
`21:23.09`	`ImpyDroid`	`As in it does not exist, there are ethnic Russians and non-ethnic Russians`
`21:23.44`	`ImpyDroid`	`85 to 15 or something`
`21:23.52`	`Monet`	`Aeo: Is asking if a scientist is overthinking a thought experiment really a good argument on a philosophy-based discussion board?`
`21:24.07`	`ImpyDroid`	`I remember always being the only non-white kid in the class`
`21:24.20`	`Aeo`	`Monet: Well, they were. They were taking it too literally.`
`21:24.38`	`Monet`	`Maybe he was considering al lthe variables?`
`21:25.16`	`Monet`	`Physicists and biologists have to be aware of all possibilities. It's how the sicentific method works.`
`21:26.22`	`Aeo`	`Well, in this context, it's sort of not how philosophy works. When you nitpick the details of a thought experiment in ethics rather than try to address what it's getting at, you're basically deliberately choosing to miss the point.`
`21:26.56`	`Aeo`	`Regardless of how valid the point is, you've decided not to understand it, or admit you understand it, because of the details of how it was expressed to you.`
`21:27.34`	`drom`	`Monet: Probably it is true, because I saw a lot of pinky/red people when I was in London.`
`21:28.31`	`TekDroid`	`drom: I ended up giving up on that. I've meant to try and solve it again. XD`
`21:29.08`	`Monet`	`Aeo: Treasas still answered the question`
`21:29.54`	`Monet`	`He just stuck it in a reliable scenario.`
`21:31.10`	`Monet`	`Puno never said he had complete freedom of choice with no consequences in what to do.`
`21:31.19`	`drom`	`Goddamnit, Word. I never asked for this. http://i.imgur.com/EHmefc7.png`
`21:31.36`	`Aeo`	`Monet: But they deliberately missed the point. Unless their argument is that a circumstance where one must reastrain one from speaking to save their life cannot come about, which they are not, as they admit the Cleanser does it, they're basically complaining about how the question was put rather than what it actually was.`
`21:33.04`	`Monet`	`Under Puno's rationale, police have no need to tell perpetrators to put their guns down or step away from the victi mwhen they can just knock the perp o ntheir arse.`
`21:33.51`	`Monet`	`That's what Tresas was getting at in the first half of the statement.`
`21:35.47`	`Monet`	`Tresas did mention his understanding of why police give people the opportunity to cooperate when being arrested, I'm guessing jusging by Puno's response that doesn't really happen i nthe Aeoneonatrix empire.`
`21:40.13`	`Monet`	`If the Cleanser stops all Aeons from committing harm he doesn't approve of, does that mean the Empire has no police force?`
`21:41.15`	`Ghel`	`There are Undedicated individuals that he doesn't control, but he could command any nearby Dedicated individuals to intervene.`
`21:42.35`	`Ghel`	`So while I can't speak for Aeo's fiction, I think that would be somewhat analogous to police intervening in a crime.`
`21:42.47`	`Monet`	`True`
`21:43.11`	`Monet`	`When one's god can reliably stop al lcrime, what's the point of a domestic police force?`
`21:45.24`	`Ghel`	`I'd imagine that many of the Civilisation's habitats have AI-controlled utility fog to similarly restrain individuals should they try to commit a crime. Although that need not involve outright neural control.`
`21:46.54`	`Monet`	`That's been Treasas' main argument - the ethical legitimacy of direct neural control over people.`
`21:48.21`	`Monet`	`Sure direct neural control stops someone dead, but there's the question if "is the method ethical" - hence his justufucation that a tranquiliser is more ethical because it doesn't instantly knock out.`
`21:49.06`	`Aeo`	`Monet: They still have one. For one, the Cleanser can only manipulate people from a distance. If, say, he needs to get rid of a big shipment of drugs, someone else has to do that. Also, he actually does let the undedicated commit murder, because the League won't let him modify their souls so he can stop them if he happens to be accross the universe at the moment.`
`21:49.30`	`drom`	`TekDroid: Doing some small simple essay on about Electromagnetic raditation. I noticed that the frequency for the post-violett specturms are so high that have to use the prefixes T, P and E. But the funny thing I found about using E. EHz, my brain immediately connected it to EH:s`
`21:49.40`	`Aeo`	`He also knows it's possible for him to die, so he doesn't want them to be completely helpless.`
`21:50.11`	`Monet`	`Aeo: If his abilities are dependant on his location does that make him truly omniscient?`
`21:51.37`	`Monet`	`I get the feeling the debate lost civility the moment something close to God was brought up.`
`21:52.05`	`Aeo`	`Monet: His knowledge isn't dependent on location. His ability to mess with things is. He needs to be within a few lightyears of a soul to manipulate it in any significant way unless he's previously modified it, and he needs to be within a few miles of matter to move it around.`
`21:52.59`	`Aeo`	`Also, do you happen to be writing the response right now? If you're editing the page as we speak, I'll wait to respond to the Imperium of War's post. Otherwise, I'll do it now.`
`21:53.21`	`Monet`	`I'm not, no`
`22:01.28`	`drom`	`ugh, doing physics assignment late at night is never healthy for me and my sanity`
`22:02.14`	`TekDroid`	`lol`
`22:03.22`	`drom`	`And that's when a bar of Snickers comes to my resuce`
`22:10.09`	`Aeo`	`I'm surprised none of the comments have pointed out the nine mile hole in Puno's argument which he tries to handwave away partway through it. If you've read the most recent version of the Aeoneonatrix Religion page and think about his argument, you should be able to disprove something outright false he says partway through it, and blow him out of the water as you do so.`
`22:11.18`	`Monet`	`I was going to have one scholar ask how contractual indentured servitude firs into his argument`
`22:11.51`	`Monet`	`Specifically where the indentured servant is all too happy to sell himself for a financial gain`
`22:13.26`	`TekDroid`	`drom: Maybe I'll try and make an essay on the production equation once I try again.`
`22:15.43`	`Monet`	`THis "none mile hole" you speak of also requires knowledge of Aeoneonatrix religion - knowledge that might not be common.`
`22:15.56`	`Monet`	`nine*`
`22:25.15`	`Aeo`	`Monet: Do you know what it is?`
`22:25.38`	`Monet`	`No I do not.`
`22:39.10`	`Aeo`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unified_Alliance_of_Enlightenment/Species#Aeoneonatrix I literally just discovered this.`
`22:39.56`	`TekDroid`	`That... should of required your approval`
`22:40.04`	`Aeo`	`Yep.`
`22:40.50`	`Aeo`	`I think he did it while I was gone, but in that case, it would have been whoever I left the Aeons to. OJ, iirc.`
`22:41.03`	`TekDroid`	`~seen OfficerJackal`
`22:41.04`	`infobot`	`officerjackal <~OfficerJa@2601:3:8681:3d8:c006:1edf:6dd0:7046> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 19d 20h 12m 46s ago, saying: ':('.`
`22:41.19`	`TekDroid`	`He hasn't been around for a while. :/`
`22:45.45`	`Aeo`	`Eco is like a pet dog. Every now and then, you're walking around your house and you find he's left a surprise where he wasn't supposed to.`
`22:45.50`	`Aeo`	`*she`
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`22:47.30`	`DrodoEmpire`	`Hey everyone`
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`22:52.11`	`Aeo`	`Went through the history. They show up first in this revision.`
`22:52.13`	`Aeo`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unified_Alliance_of_Enlightenment/Species?oldid=620751`
`22:53.11`	`drom`	`I do really wonder why do we use comma instead for dot as decimal seperatator`
`22:53.25`	`drom`	`And vice vera`
`22:53.28`	`drom`	`versa`
`22:53.40`	`Aeo`	`TekDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unified_Alliance_of_Enlightenment/Species#Gargator Did you approve this?`
`22:54.21`	`Aeo`	`I think I technically left the Gargs to Impy, so he could have done it too.`
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`23:01.27`	`Wormy_`	`Hi`
`23:01.37`	`Wormy_`	`I didn't over do it tonight so don't worry`
`23:02.03`	`The_Randomness`	`?`
`23:02.29`	`Wormy_`	`I was at the pub`
`23:02.32`	`The_Randomness`	`ah`
`23:02.57`	`Wormy_`	`I realised that everybody was planning to get smashed tomorrow`
`23:03.18`	`drom`	`Why?`
`23:03.27`	`Wormy_`	`Beats me`
`23:04.04`	`Wormy_`	`There's a bit of a festival going on in my town, and its bank holiday tomorrow. And its supposed to be sunnier with music and shit`
`23:04.55`	`Wormy_`	`I wanted toget smashed tonight due to overly stressful week`
`23:05.44`	`DrodoEmpire`	`test`
`23:06.03`	`TekDroid`	`pass`
`23:06.09`	`drom`	`That's getting drunk, right?`
`23:06.18`	`The_Randomness`	`Yes, and especially so`
`23:06.19`	`Hachiman`	`Right back`
`23:06.32`	`Monet`	`Welcoem back`
`23:07.14`	`Wormy_`	`Its getting pissed to the point of collapse, yes`
`23:07.37`	`Monet`	`It's fun how many euphanisms for "drunk" exist in the English language`
`23:08.03`	`DrodoEmpire`	`^`
`23:08.18`	`TekDroid`	`lol`
`23:09.16`	`Wormy_`	`indeed`
`23:09.35`	`Wormy_`	`Monet do you think you'll ever play STO again?`
`23:10.29`	`Monet`	`Wormy_: Lately I've been thinking about it`
`23:10.53`	`Wormy_`	`The new missions are a lot more fun`
`23:11.09`	`Monet`	`I've mainly been engrossed in TOR.`
`23:11.10`	`drom`	`Wormy_: Bring Nigel Thornberry`
`23:11.16`	`Wormy_`	`and sector space is worth seeing in its own right`
`23:11.31`	`Wormy_`	`lol`
`23:11.38`	`Wormy_`	`I'm in a country of Nigels`
`23:13.01`	`TekDroid`	`I should try some of the last season or two soon.`
`23:23.36`	`Wormy_STO`	`crashes starship into a star`
`23:24.14`	`TekDroid`	`O.o`
`23:27.28`	`Liquid_Ink`	`I hate it when that happens`
`23:44.47`	`Wormy_STO`	`Starfleet has rules against this, but what would they know?`
`23:44.55`	`Wormy_STO`	`In the deep depths of space.`
`23:50.07`	`drom`	`ngh, 2 am`
`23:50.21`	`drom`	`time to sleep, I'll finish the last bit of my assignment tomorrow instead.`
`23:57.50`	`Aeo`	`http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Art Added this, ret-conning the concept as I did. Monet you might want to look at this. It will be relevent to your dealings with the Aeons in the summer story. Your dubbing company might want to do bussiness with them now.`
`23:59.44`	`Monet`	`Hmm i ca nsee some cultures raising eyebrows at the religious content`

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