00:00.41 | External | Monet: I was talking about this: http://imgur.com/gallery/JMdZG and I agree with you there.\ |
00:01.17 | Monet | The stuff that stays still is hardly ever given full shading, I remember after the stegosaurus in Fantasia fell over, it had this gorgeous fully-shaded body and a cel-shaded neck and head. |
00:03.46 | Hachiman | "We were excited to try out the minibar. As it turns out it only sells lubricant and panties :(" |
00:03.55 | Hachiman | Bit upsetting |
00:04.12 | Monet | A lesson I learned from my folks: Never use the minibar. |
00:04.15 | External | Isn't it? |
00:04.26 | External | "FREE BEER...oh fuck...." |
00:04.31 | Monet | Yeah |
00:04.37 | External | drom monet: http://store.steampowered.com/app/282210/ |
00:04.40 | External | Have fun. |
00:04.45 | Monet | Free beer, the price of which is added to your hotel bill |
00:05.14 | External | Monet: "WWhere the hell did this extra 50$ come from? |
00:07.12 | drom | So, this is how they apply camouflage on helmets. http://i.imgur.com/kbvDqVs.gif |
00:07.31 | Monet | Not a bad trick |
00:08.38 | drom | External: Played that game, very weak impressions. |
00:09.41 | External | drom: Hm, it does cost 15$ ever since it released 2 months ago... |
00:11.12 | External | drom: Owow, look at the comments. |
00:11.23 | External | Nearly all the reviews are bad. |
00:11.49 | drom | Unfortunately, it is. |
00:12.18 | External | Shouldn't buy then. |
00:12.25 | External | I swear |
00:12.36 | External | The gaming market is slowly losing its quality. |
00:13.25 | The_Randomness | ugh |
00:13.29 | The_Randomness | not this again |
00:13.49 | Monet | Yes let's not go down this road again |
00:13.49 | The_Randomness | "ayy lmao, anyone remember how good all of the games were back in the day?" |
00:14.34 | External | I won't make a big deal of it like last time, I just believe so. |
00:14.36 | drom | Wormy_STO: http://i.imgur.com/3Cstjdy.jpg |
00:14.36 | The_Randomness | There will always be bad games, problem is you only remember the spectacularly bad or good ones. |
00:14.49 | Hachiman | inb4 daikatana and E.T. |
00:14.50 | The_Randomness | shots fired |
00:15.18 | External | Hachiman: Especially E.T. I loved that game. |
00:15.22 | External | So much, really. |
00:15.41 | Wormy_STO | they sure are |
00:15.51 | External | That I encased it in concrete after stomping on it |
00:17.48 | External | An Assyrian spy name in Civ 5 is "Pazuzu". |
00:18.53 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11179943_1097598063589237_6180336403970775230_n.jpg?oh=88c94d7452ac64fa888c853336f7bd2e&oe=55D9AB5A |
00:19.33 | External | Hachiman: I laughed at that more than I should've. |
00:22.37 | drom | Wormy_STO: http://imgur.com/gallery/rY1FM |
00:23.06 | Wormy_STO | lol |
00:25.05 | External | drom: Someone likes dogs/ |
00:26.43 | Monet | "Last time I trusted you I woke up without my balls" Aww.... |
00:29.13 | Monet | http://i.imgur.com/bRU49qg.jpg |
00:29.29 | drom | Pretty conviencent enough to think that sharks are cute. Except for the Great Whites, Whale and Goblin sharks. |
00:30.26 | Monet | I always find dogs' reaction to the mailman intrigiung |
00:30.49 | Monet | As I understand it it's basically "hey you, strange person! THis is my territory...can we be friends?" |
00:33.07 | External | Where I walk home, a small puppy hybrid guards the fence of a neighbors house, and it is so fun to trick the guy. |
00:33.16 | drom | Then it becomes something of the lines "Traitor!", "Why did you leave me? WHY?!" and "Come back! I'm not done with you!" |
00:35.06 | Monet | I recall a similar dog that barked at me whenever it saw me from behind the fence it was kept behind, I was always told it was merely trying ot say hello |
00:35.07 | External | Yeah. I run one way and trick the puppy into running over a small flight of stairs, around a shed, and to the other side of the fence. |
00:35.37 | External | Then when he sees me walking the other way and tries to go back, I run the right way and by the time he notices, I'm gone. |
00:36.59 | Monet | http://i.imgur.com/ko57gqC.jpg that cat is like "SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTT" |
00:38.39 | External | Monet: Imagine a kitten |
00:38.59 | External | Then imagine it being chased by several bloodthirsty wolves of death |
00:39.18 | External | and you get something similar to this: http://i.imgur.com/ko57gqC.jpg |
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00:42.29 | Wormy_STO | drom, Monet, The_Randomness: Well this happened http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lol.png |
00:42.30 | drom | Monet TekDroid Wormy_STO: http://i.imgur.com/cPsmCh5.jpg |
00:42.45 | External | Wormy_STO: Remember Vegan Revolution? That thing is following me on Twitter. I feel werid..help...me...nao....please.... |
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00:43.03 | Zillafire101 | Hello all. |
00:43.10 | Technobliterator | hi |
00:43.19 | Wormy_STO | Why is he following you hur |
00:43.20 | External | Hello Zilla |
00:43.20 | Hachiman | Hello Zilla |
00:43.27 | External | I DON'T KNOW WORMY |
00:43.33 | External | IT'S WEIRD |
00:43.57 | External | Whoever doesn't know who VR is, look at this: https://twitter.com/VeganRevoIution/status/594294277645201408 |
00:43.59 | drom | Awh man, it's 02:40 am |
00:44.10 | Wormy_STO | Did you post a comment or favourite or retweet anything? |
00:44.18 | Wormy_STO | Because he's notice you then |
00:45.13 | External | I didn't retweet or commented on him/her/it. Must've been on a comment he/she/it commented on. |
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00:49.14 | External | Wormy_STO: How strong of a graphics card do you need for STO? |
00:49.53 | Wormy_STO | Not very, I was playing on my 2008 computer a couple of years ago. You might need to play on lower settings tough |
00:50.25 | Technobliterator | oh, Hachiman, did you sort anything out with regards to FFXIV? |
00:50.36 | Hachiman | Ah yes |
00:50.47 | Hachiman | I can play it rather smoothly |
00:50.52 | Technobliterator | oooh sweet |
00:51.22 | Hachiman | I play on Cactuar with Panda since he is helping me get adjusted to how the game works |
00:52.19 | Technobliterator | ah, neat |
00:52.41 | Technobliterator | The story doesn't kick off until about level 15 |
00:52.57 | Hachiman | Yeah the story is pretty stagnant |
00:53.00 | Technobliterator | and the VA starts off meh but rapidly improves |
00:53.04 | Hachiman | For low-level it is |
00:53.13 | Hachiman | that is even |
00:53.24 | OluapPlayer | git bak on da rp |
00:53.34 | Technobliterator | You don't get your main cast until you go to the Waking Sands, though |
00:54.19 | External | Wormy_STO: The problem is that my graphics card is broken and outdated, so I don't want to play anything too high-quality. |
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01:03.54 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
01:03.55 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
01:04.40 | Wormy_STO | Externalizer: I've found you need a good connection speed too. Some systems with high graphics can make it hard to accessthe server |
01:04.49 | Wormy_STO | hi |
01:06.17 | External | AWell, anyways, I'll see if I can download it and see if I can play it well. |
01:06.43 | External | Be prepared for a life of bothering on STO. |
01:11.58 | TekDroid | I'm about a season or two behind for STO, but with my home internet I probably won't play much. |
01:15.08 | Wormy_STO | Latest screenie http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Chillaxin_on_the_bridge.png |
01:15.29 | Wormy_STO | T'Aloran looks preggie |
01:17.24 | TekDroid | Knowing Star Trek, it's possible. :P |
01:25.23 | External | Wormy_STO: Do I need permission to use Elemental Energy? |
01:25.40 | Wormy_STO | nope |
01:25.57 | TekDroid | I think elemental was the only one that didn't require permission. |
01:26.29 | Hachiman | ^ |
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01:28.46 | External | Zilla, is your internet bugging out? |
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01:32.53 | Quark8 | Hello. |
01:34.10 | External | Hey. |
01:39.54 | Zillafire101 | Yes actually |
01:43.43 | Zillafire101 | test |
01:44.08 | Quark8 | What year is it in the Fiction Universe? |
01:44.39 | Aeo | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:PGPS/Dedication_is_not_Enslavement Wormy_STO DrodoEmpire External This is the Pan-Gigaquadrantic Philosophical Society's first essay. |
01:46.39 | External | Aeo: I'll find a way to contradict that statement! Nope....nuh-uh...not that...hmm...I'll wait... |
01:47.06 | Hachiman | Quark8: 2806 I believe |
01:47.16 | Quark8 | Thanks. |
01:47.31 | External | I thought it was 2808 |
01:47.31 | DrodoEmpire | I'll take a look later perhaps |
01:47.43 | Hachiman | Alright 2808 |
01:48.00 | DrodoEmpire | Quark: 2806-2808, but some people are still writing the events of 2802-2804 |
01:48.42 | Quark8 | Okay. |
01:49.48 | External | Hachiman: Let's compromise with 2806-2808 like Drodo said. |
01:50.33 | DrodoEmpire | Okay, gonna try and make a zombie apocalypse mod for EUIV. :p |
01:50.37 | DrodoEmpire | 'Cuz bored |
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01:51.40 | External | howumake mods, DrodoEmpire? |
01:51.58 | Halopediaman | I hear |
01:52.04 | Halopediaman | Someone is making mods? |
01:52.54 | DrodoEmpire | I'm making a small mod for EUIV. |
01:54.16 | Quark8 | I remember one of your old blog posts was about Sporewiki empires on EUIV. Was it finished? |
01:54.27 | Quark8 | As a mod. |
01:55.17 | External | DrodoEmpire: How easy is it to make mods? Or is it that you are an expert coder? |
01:55.54 | DrodoEmpire | Quark: The data was irretrievably lost. |
01:57.21 | DrodoEmpire | Not difficult. It depends on how much time you wanna sink into it and what sort of mod you're making. |
01:57.42 | DrodoEmpire | Besides a short primer on mod structure, I'm self-taught. : |
01:57.43 | DrodoEmpire | *:p |
01:58.43 | DrodoEmpire | This mod I'm making right now could be pretty challenging, though. It involves rebels and events, two things I've really never worked with |
01:59.14 | External | Had this page open for the past 5 hours: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11179943_1097598063589237_6180336403970775230_n.jpg?oh=88c94d7452ac64fa888c853336f7bd2e&oe=55D9AB5A and I don't know why |
02:00.29 | DrodoEmpire | Eh its not transferring files correctly. I'll leave it for a bit the. |
02:00.32 | DrodoEmpire | *then |
02:00.53 | Aeo | Drodo: REED MAH THUNG! |
02:01.14 | Aeo | I would love to see a Drodo philosopher's rebuttal to it. |
02:01.38 | External | Aeo: Nathierm u crazy |
02:02.39 | Aeo | I really did put my all into its argumentation, though. And External, a Nathierm philosopher would be awesome too. |
02:02.53 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe later. |
02:02.53 | Aeo | Even if you just left a comment. |
02:03.20 | DrodoEmpire | Don't wanna read and do the philosophy thing because baagh I'm tired |
02:03.20 | External | I don't know how to use message templates, sadly. :/ |
02:06.14 | External | Wormy_STO: Would this empire rival your DCPs size? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Rogemori_Neoliberal_Republic |
02:06.21 | Aeo | External: It's explained on the UDB page. |
02:07.02 | Aeo | Well, there's a link to an explanatino of it. |
02:07.28 | External | Could you give me the page link? |
02:08.57 | External | If that guy would've still worked on that empire, I think that emprie can rival the Delpha Coalition of PLanets. |
02:09.33 | Wormy_STO | In Spore yes. In SporeWikiverse, nope |
02:11.41 | External | This particular empire was created in 2013, so if that creator actively worked on it, they would've been able to be an extremely powerful empire |
02:12.21 | Aeo | External: |
02:12.36 | External | ? |
02:12.54 | Aeo | External: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg |
02:16.07 | External | Do I place it in "talk" or "comments", Aeo? |
02:17.35 | Aeo | External: Comments. |
02:19.40 | External | This is confusing. Technobliterator, can you help? |
02:23.28 | External | Aeo: Well, I'm not going to add one today, but I probably will tomorrow. |
02:28.47 | Aeo | Awesome. |
02:33.34 | Wormy_STO | http://imgur.com/gallery/OHiWmhF |
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02:36.28 | External | Wormy_STO: That thing scares me...what the hell.... |
02:36.59 | Wormy_STO | http://imgur.com/gallery/uB7jWtc |
02:37.29 | Aeo | Zillafire101 Wormy_STO comment on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:PGPS/Dedication_is_not_Enslavement |
02:37.57 | Wormy_STO | sold out http://www.amazon.com/President-Barack-Exclusive-Action-Lightsaber/dp/B002S7PKQ2 |
02:38.04 | Wormy_STO | i willl tomorrow |
02:38.08 | Wormy_STO | going now, bye |
02:38.41 | Zillafire101 | But I must purge the xeno scum from Kronus! |
02:38.54 | Zillafire101 | Jk, let me see dis. |
02:42.00 | External | There goes everyone. |
02:43.08 | External | I'm bored |
02:43.15 | External | ~cleanse Aeo |
02:43.15 | infobot | Come here, Aeo. I have an extra-large enema bag with your name on it. |
02:52.09 | Aeo | ~give me External's Soul |
02:52.10 | infobot | ACTION gives External's Soul to aeo |
02:52.23 | Aeo | C: |
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02:53.40 | External | ~kill infobot |
02:53.41 | infobot | ACTION shoots a charged neutrino gun at infobot |
02:53.45 | External | Sucker |
02:54.01 | Aeo | Zillafire101: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:PGPS/Dedication_is_not_Enslavement |
02:54.01 | External | shoot herself |
02:54.11 | External | ~shoot herself |
02:54.11 | infobot | ACTION shoots herself in the foot with a phase pistol! |
02:54.13 | Aeo | In case you lost it. |
02:54.20 | Aeo | ~gender |
02:54.20 | infobot | I'm pregnant |
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03:02.53 | External | ~gender |
03:02.53 | infobot | I'm male |
03:03.00 | External | Male and pregnant |
03:03.05 | External | How does that happen? |
03:04.37 | Aeo | He's trans. |
03:07.08 | TekDroid | ~gender |
03:07.09 | infobot | I'm lesbian |
03:07.18 | TekDroid | ~gender |
03:07.18 | infobot | I'm pregnant |
03:07.48 | TekDroid | male, lesbian and pregnant. O.o |
03:08.54 | TekDroid | ~gender |
03:08.54 | infobot | I'm gay |
03:09.00 | TekDroid | O.o |
03:09.05 | TekDroid | ~gender |
03:09.06 | infobot | I'm lesbian |
03:09.55 | Aeo | TekDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:PGPS/Dedication_is_not_Enslavement |
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03:19.24 | External | Well, gay and lesbian are the same thing |
03:20.01 | External | So....he is male, lesbian, and pregnant. And he's gay. So how does that gappen? A special hug works ONLY if they are female and male |
03:20.08 | External | NOT MALE AND MALE |
03:22.47 | Aeo | External: He is a trans man. |
03:22.59 | External | Who can get pregnant |
03:23.03 | External | The wrong way |
03:23.13 | External | WTF |
03:23.20 | Aeo | Yes. Trans men can get pregnant, and they get pregnant the right way. |
03:23.29 | Aeo | Do you know what a trans man is? |
03:23.53 | External | I know "trans" in general sexually, but not trans man |
03:24.42 | Aeo | A trans man is a man who was assigned female at birth, meaning they have a vagina. |
03:25.55 | External | If they have a vagina, then shouldn't they be female? |
03:27.01 | Aeo | External: No. Gender is psychological. They are men because their neurology is such that they inherently identify as male. |
03:27.15 | External | Oh. |
03:27.17 | Aeo | Just like how GLaDOS is female without having a vagina. |
03:27.51 | External | I saw one of those last week, actually. A guy was dressed as a red-haired girl with a skirt and everything, and was talking like a teenage woman. |
03:28.49 | Aeo | That was a trans woman, not a trans man. |
03:28.58 | Aeo | Or it was a drag queen. |
03:29.18 | Aeo | They're two different things and you can't tell them apart by looking. |
03:29.56 | Aeo | She was born with a penis, but her neurology was such that she would inevitably identify as female anyway with sufficient introspection. |
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03:35.00 | Aeo | She was born with a penis, but her neurology was such that she would inevitably identify as female anyway with sufficient introspection. |
03:35.07 | External | ~punch Infobot |
03:35.07 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Infobot right on the nose |
03:35.26 | TekDroid | ~feed external |
03:35.26 | infobot | ACTION offers external some horseraddish |
03:38.04 | External | Naaah |
03:38.10 | External | ~smack infobot |
03:38.10 | infobot | ACTION smacks infobot upside the head. |
03:56.37 | Aeo | ~suck me |
03:56.37 | infobot | ACTION sucks aeo's lips |
03:56.46 | Aeo | ~blow me |
03:56.47 | infobot | ACTION blows aeo |
03:56.53 | Aeo | C: |
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04:24.24 | External | I just got done talking with some old friends of mine at my old school. I think I will cry myself to sleep because I miss them so much |
04:24.27 | External | Dammit |
04:24.35 | External | And it's because of my greedy landowner |
04:35.19 | DrodoEmpire | test |
04:43.24 | External | Boring |
04:43.29 | External | ~strike Drodo |
04:43.36 | External | .. |
04:43.39 | External | I SED |
04:43.42 | External | STRIKE DRODO |
04:43.46 | External | ~punch Drodo |
04:43.47 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Drodo right on the nose |
04:51.27 | External | ~gender |
04:51.27 | infobot | I'm female |
04:53.28 | Aeo | ~sex |
04:53.28 | infobot | [~sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; emerge --oneshot condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; emerge -C condom; make clean; sleep; |
04:54.06 | External | What |
04:54.08 | External | The |
04:54.09 | External | Fuck |
04:54.35 | Aeo | ~torment External |
04:54.35 | infobot | ACTION forces External to exhaustively fact-check a VP Cheney interview with Rush Limbaugh |
04:54.58 | Aeo | lol |
04:54.59 | External | Even Angazhar thinks that's evil |
04:55.24 | Aeo | ~torment External |
04:55.24 | infobot | ACTION forces External to exhaustively fact-check a VP Cheney interview with Rush Limbaugh |
04:55.47 | External | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
04:55.51 | Aeo | So it only has on rhing. |
04:56.09 | Aeo | ~rape me |
04:56.09 | infobot | ACTION takes aeo behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
04:56.29 | Aeo | ~abuse infobot |
04:56.29 | infobot | ACTION smacks infobot across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
04:56.43 | Aeo | ~annoy me |
04:56.43 | infobot | ACTION dances around aeo, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy aeo to the maximum amount |
04:57.08 | Aeo | ~torture Sarah |
04:57.08 | infobot | ACTION forces Sarah to support Debian GNU/Hurd in production. |
04:57.53 | DrodoEmpire | Stop with the infobot spam, please. |
04:58.53 | Aeo | MWAHAHA |
04:59.30 | Aeo | ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot ~infobot |
04:59.35 | Aeo | MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
05:00.49 | External | ... |
05:01.02 | External | ~chase Aeo |
05:01.02 | infobot | ACTION chases Aeo |
05:05.57 | DrodoEmpire | Stop. |
05:05.59 | DrodoEmpire | Just |
05:06.00 | DrodoEmpire | Stop |
05:06.09 | DrodoEmpire | Not kidding around. Don't abuse infobot, please. |
05:06.14 | DrodoEmpire | I don't mean to be rude |
05:06.32 | DrodoEmpire | But seriously, don't follow Aeo's example here |
05:08.21 | External | sur |
05:19.13 | TekDroid | O.o I think some Steam thing just overloaded and exploded. |
05:19.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
05:22.03 | TekDroid | Some Steam thing began increasing CPU usage, going up to using a third of my CPU, then I got some error about breakpoints and it crashed. XD |
05:23.57 | DrodoEmpire | Ouch. |
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05:34.30 | External | Activity? |
05:34.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
05:36.14 | External | I wanted to see if the IRC was still quiet. |
05:37.03 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, pretty well. |
05:44.11 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: Nothing happened, it was some background process that immediately restarted. XD |
05:44.17 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
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09:25.01 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
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09:25.49 | Liquid_Ink | Did you enjoy today's pristine blue sky? |
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10:05.58 | Hachiman | Hai |
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10:41.16 | Hachiman | Back again |
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10:52.00 | Wormy_ | hi |
10:52.26 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:54.03 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:PGPS - So you finally have somewhere to publish your philosophical essays. :D |
10:55.15 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
10:56.01 | Wormy_ | Unfortunately anything I put there would be antique by the 29th century |
10:56.38 | Ghelae | That's a problem that occured to me too. |
10:59.31 | Ghelae | Perhaps some general philosophical discussion might work if it were put into the context of some relevant in-universe thing. |
11:00.43 | Ghelae | Like how Aeo stuck a definition of slavery and its morality by comparing it to Cleanserist dedication. |
11:03.04 | AdmiralPanda | the other thing facing such a discussion is that different societies have not only radically different views, but often different foundations upon which their views are established |
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11:04.53 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: Well i kind of imagine aliens debating philosophy like this http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/45e648b4a5fc0 |
11:05.26 | Hachiman | ~cuddle OluapWorker |
11:05.26 | infobot | ACTION grabs OluapWorker and cuddles until OluapWorker begs for mercy |
11:05.51 | OluapWorker | mwee |
11:06.08 | Wormy_ | Either they are seeking physical truths, so would converge on the same ones through their lasnguages. Or they seek high abstractions and diverge completely. |
11:06.23 | Wormy_ | The Civilisation is all about that really |
11:07.13 | Wormy_ | To conglomerate all "sophont endeavours" as you called it, and try to srt a dialoge between vastly alien psychologies, perceptions and knowledge |
11:07.22 | Wormy_ | I suppose I could add essays in that region |
11:07.32 | Wormy_ | abd it sounds rather futuristic |
11:08.31 | Ghelae | The distinction between alien philosophies appears to be the point, at least in-universe, for the PGPS, athough in practice it may be difficult for us to convincingly write up essays in the frame of mind of said philosophies. |
11:10.08 | Wormy_ | It could be quite important for federations and empires that command over multiple sentient races |
11:10.41 | Wormy_ | I'm not quite sure how the DCP maintains a mono-culture across aliens as strange as the Singing Trees |
11:11.15 | Hachiman | >tfw you will never be able to discuss the intricacies of varying sapient psychologies and mentalities with an alien crab/tree entity from a low-gravity world that is also a philosopher |
11:11.19 | Hachiman | Why even live |
11:11.48 | Ghelae | ikr |
11:12.26 | Wormy_ | Well, I would have agreed with you once. But all knowledge entities in the universe are "universal constructors (or explasiners) according to David Deutsch |
11:12.40 | Wormy_ | *knowledge seeking |
11:13.27 | Wormy_ | I can settle that by saying "either they are talking about the saame thing, i.e. the physical world, or some abstract plane we evolved no connection to" |
11:16.39 | Wormy_ | Interestingly the universal explainer argument transcends all perception and all brute processing power simply because they are all working on the same principles when doing sience |
11:17.06 | Wormy_ | So a SQ 20 being might find it a lot faster, but would not be "incomprehensible" |
11:17.22 | Wormy_ | Indeed such a SQ 20 being could probably translate it all |
11:18.20 | Ghelae | Us being able to comprehend their philosophies doesn't make it easy to write about them, however. |
11:19.04 | Wormy_ | As for alien perception and experience; abstractions like mathemastics or ???, I don't know if that ca be translated or not. Presumbly it depends how different their world is |
11:19.21 | Wormy_ | But that is what the Civilisation seeks |
11:20.45 | Wormy_ | Maybe in the far future, the Civilisation will affectively merge every sentient species |
11:45.52 | Wormy_ | Now where is drom http://imgur.com/gallery/pAbf5NP |
11:49.28 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/usyEx4j |
11:49.43 | Wormy_ | Must be a thing in America to have doors that don't fit toilets |
11:52.23 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/LzdVNhr |
11:52.50 | Technobliterator | how many times will I have to tell External not to remove talk page content before he actually stops? |
11:55.53 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/KXJUtDC |
11:56.43 | Wormy_ | I never liked message walls anyway/ |
12:06.34 | Technobliterator | No one removed non-vandalism talk page content back when we had normal talk pages :/ |
12:07.04 | Technobliterator | Given this is the third time I've had to tell him, I'm considering warning him |
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12:48.08 | AdmiralPanda | you should |
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12:50.35 | Liquid_Ink | Howdy |
12:50.55 | OluapWorker | spu |
12:51.26 | Xho | SQUAAAAWK |
12:51.32 | OluapWorker | burd |
12:56.01 | Xho | OluapWorker: y u no post angry moon section last nite |
12:56.17 | OluapWorker | because fuk u that's y |
12:56.30 | Technobliterator | OluapWorker, Hachiman, do you guys want to begin the Loron thing when Oluap gets home? |
12:56.41 | OluapWorker | I'll be busy so no |
12:56.54 | Technobliterator | right ok |
12:56.56 | Technobliterator | all day? |
12:57.13 | OluapWorker | I'll tell you when I can begin |
12:57.20 | Technobliterator | alright sure |
12:57.53 | Xho | Why do I have a feeling that the Elf + Javina team are gonna end up killing each other |
12:58.42 | Xho | Or they all might end up killing Javina bcuz elf rites |
12:58.50 | OluapWorker | More like Javina will eventually cream herself |
12:59.02 | Xho | Annamasakkan - u r all rly ew |
12:59.35 | Xho | Just for the notice I'll be gone in roughly five hours |
12:59.48 | OluapWorker | y dis |
13:00.18 | Xho | Going out |
13:00.59 | OluapWorker | disgustin |
13:02.17 | Imperios | Hi |
13:02.51 | Imperios | Xho: What do you mean by "killimh" |
13:03.01 | Imperios | *killing |
13:03.11 | Xho | Javina might go all sieg human on them |
13:03.41 | OluapWorker | Javina taking on all of them and winning |
13:03.47 | OluapWorker | Kinda underwhelming if you ask me |
13:03.59 | Xho | Would be an impressive sight hur |
13:04.26 | Xho | Javina takes the Coronaira Whip and uses it for BDSM purposes |
13:05.19 | Imperios | Brilliant |
13:05.35 | OluapWorker | She'd be incinerated in the first whip |
13:05.39 | OluapWorker | Holy fire I guess |
13:05.46 | Xho | Longinus - #mortals |
13:07.46 | Xho | I just realised Vultusk didn't have one speaking part in that section |
13:08.38 | OluapWorker | Him and two of Imp's chars didn't |
13:09.13 | Xho | More excusable for Vultusk I guess since he is a shambling frankenstein |
13:09.19 | Xho | monster that is |
13:09.27 | Xho | Shambling Frakenstein's Monster dere |
13:10.24 | OluapWorker | Vultusk - we were too busy admiring the holes on the ceiling |
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13:11.26 | Monet | hello |
13:12.05 | Xho | Hi |
13:12.20 | Xho | There must be some source of humour behind the fact that Hachi keeps feeding Kinmo |
13:12.31 | Xho | Kinmo doesn't have a mouth nor the need to be fed hur |
13:12.43 | OluapWorker | Kinmo - don't ask where the food is going into |
13:13.13 | OluapWorker | he has no mouth? |
13:13.29 | Xho | No need to have a mouth |
13:13.53 | OluapWorker | Only thing making him resemble a phoenix is the fact he has feathers |
13:14.11 | Xho | hence y dey called echdrarothrayu lel |
13:14.13 | OluapWorker | shenanigans dis |
13:14.18 | OluapWorker | fuk off |
13:15.24 | Xho | I need to go and do Mhor's page now |
13:16.02 | OluapWorker | Mhor - guys fish GUYS FISH |
13:16.16 | Xho | Esulus - *scream* |
13:22.04 | OluapWorker | Now I'm done with those demons-turned-Mortium-servants |
13:22.17 | Xho | gud |
13:22.44 | Xho | Thanatos should have Makkarast as an enemy |
13:22.47 | Xho | Just a suggestion |
13:23.23 | OluapWorker | I was going to say he ended up similar to Makkarast but that's because I couldn't think of anything else |
13:23.26 | OluapWorker | and sure |
13:25.45 | OluapWorker | So there's a dog, a skeleton centaur, a skeleton skeleton, an angel and a goth girl |
13:25.50 | OluapWorker | Mortium's servants are a weird bunch |
13:26.05 | Xho | Mortium - tea party |
13:26.39 | OluapWorker | Spookiest tea |
13:26.51 | Xho | You probably know this already but Thanatos is the angel of death in Greek mythology |
13:27.33 | OluapWorker | It's the reason I made him look like an angel dur |
13:27.39 | Xho | roite |
13:27.45 | Xho | I'm gonna make Mhor now |
13:27.52 | OluapWorker | MHOOOR |
13:27.57 | Xho | FIIISH |
13:28.12 | Xho | Mhor has a weapon called 'Madaghônr' which means 'Cascade' in their language |
13:28.21 | Xho | It's basically a fucking huge warhammer that causes shockwaves on impact |
13:28.28 | OluapWorker | Merkan - fuk off Mhor - coral throne more like dinner table |
13:28.48 | OluapWorker | hamma |
13:29.32 | Xho | In terms of physical strength among my characters I'd say he rates higher than Septimus but lower than Longinus |
13:29.42 | Xho | I'm not sure who's stronger between Longinus and Ndrhthryr physically |
13:30.04 | OluapWorker | Longinus - why are you such a fucking WIMP HOLY SHIT Septimus - can we put him back in the ocean later |
13:30.44 | Xho | Says on my ranking list that Longinus is my second strongest character before going into god-levels |
13:31.00 | Xho | Maras being the first |
13:31.43 | Xho | Ndrhthryr is my strongest mortal protagonist |
13:31.51 | OluapWorker | Strongest of mine on that cast would be Vixaatus without doubt |
13:32.05 | OluapWorker | big powaful wyvern |
13:32.23 | Xho | Vixaatus - eet sand Longinus - in my time dragons were ridden not tellin us to eet sand |
13:32.56 | OluapWorker | Vixaatus - in my time dragons ruled the world nao eet sand |
13:33.29 | OluapWorker | I'm not sure which of mine is the strongest. Probably depends of whether stuff like Atrocius count as mortal |
13:33.29 | Xho | Not quite sure where Annamasakkan comes in either |
13:33.43 | Xho | I'm talking mostly about Koldenwelt-born beings that aren't biologically immortal |
13:33.49 | OluapWorker | Hmm |
13:34.43 | Xho | My only character that amounts closest to a normal human is Pelagrios |
13:34.55 | OluapWorker | and dats a bad thing |
13:35.11 | OluapWorker | I guess my strongest char in physical terms is either Wrugrak or Clamak, not counting dragons |
13:36.03 | Xho | I'd say Riad and Taihadrae are somewhat equal on physical terms |
13:36.18 | OluapWorker | Clamak could probably snap the Sea Witch in half if he ever had a reason to |
13:36.29 | Xho | Clamak - no deal |
13:36.37 | OluapWorker | Or accidentally turn her into paste by falling on top of her |
13:36.53 | Xho | Densest dwarf in the universe |
13:37.21 | OluapWorker | Kyrsacov are all like that. Very strong, very heavy, very very VERY slow |
13:37.43 | Xho | Ndrhthryr is probably the physically strongest character I have |
13:38.18 | Xho | Longinus would only outrank him due to sun magic dickery |
13:38.21 | OluapWorker | Nd's newest exercise: lifting Clamak |
13:38.29 | Xho | Ndrhthryr - aktuly quite tough |
13:38.36 | OluapWorker | Clamak - just big boned |
13:39.05 | Xho | Ndrhthryr and Clamak would make a terrifying duo |
13:39.33 | OluapWorker | Clamak - friend tin can |
13:39.52 | Xho | Ndrhthryr - tin u kno i am not sure wat metal dis is |
13:40.28 | Xho | It's not an impenetrable metal since Savant was able to tear through it |
13:40.36 | OluapWorker | after Clamak and Wrugrak would come Kebra'Osos |
13:40.54 | Wormy_ | I like this theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T3Du6_34l8 |
13:41.15 | Xho | I'd say Annamasakkan is almost as strong as a Shiarchon |
13:41.16 | OluapWorker | Then the Alpha Succubi, Norrigan and then it's pretty human-level strength |
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13:41.34 | OluapWorker | I have no need for super strong chars |
13:41.35 | Xho | Certainly not as durable because Skaurovirn aren't unholy death corpses |
13:41.43 | External_facbook | GOOOOD MOOOOOOORRRRRRNNNNIIIIIIIIIIINNNNG |
13:41.50 | OluapWorker | Skaurovirn - at least we're not as ugly |
13:41.58 | Xho | I'd like to see the interactions going on between all those elves |
13:42.10 | External_facbook | ? |
13:42.40 | Xho | It would be all alright until you throw Longinus and Annamasakkan in the mix |
13:42.56 | OluapWorker | Annamasakkan - good interaction the aithrena and the erylia are kissing while the orichalcum one is rambling about piercings meanwhile the human is screaming about purges and getting hot between her legs |
13:43.07 | Xho | Longinus can be dealt with in personality though Annamasakkan is an icicle of emotions |
13:43.35 | Xho | Annamasakkan is quite a mellow Skaurovirn as well |
13:43.41 | OluapWorker | Vixaatus - adjust urself or ur gonna eet extra sand |
13:44.51 | Xho | Annamasakkan I'd say is probably more open around beastfolk since I'd assume beastfolk would find Skaurovirn not as noticeable among a Deiwos population |
13:45.26 | Xho | Though having an enormous gargoyle-looking demonic elf generally warrants caution and pitchforks |
13:46.39 | OluapWorker | Caxildiz - u mean not all elves look horrifying |
13:48.58 | Xho | Skaurovirn - home |
13:49.25 | Xho | I modelled him after Scorpion from Mortal Kombat in appearance |
13:49.37 | OluapWorker | Caxildiz - they got flesh on their limbs that's fucked up |
13:51.10 | External_facbook | i hate it |
13:51.14 | External_facbook | stupid internet |
13:51.38 | External_facbook | takes half an hour to load MY DAMNED MESSAGE WALL |
13:51.56 | External_facbook | And it loads everything else fine |
13:52.51 | Wormy_ | I wouldn't worry about Facebook. Could be worse. |
13:58.27 | OluapWorker | This new guy |
13:58.42 | OluapWorker | "I am also VERY excited for Spore 2 to come out, which is in 2016." |
13:58.50 | OluapWorker | He's either heard lies or is completely delusional |
13:59.19 | Wormy_ | Its a hoax, and a somewhat funny one. |
13:59.45 | Wormy_ | It even has a fake website, on one of those free hosted sites like wix. |
13:59.45 | OluapWorker | I assume you've heard of it then |
13:59.52 | Wormy_ | yep |
13:59.53 | OluapWorker | Oh wow |
14:00.29 | Wormy_ | It includes things like "Grand Theft Pony" |
14:00.48 | OluapWorker | olol |
14:00.49 | Monet | Lol! |
14:00.58 | OluapWorker | The fact Spore is 7 years old makes me feel slightly old |
14:01.39 | Wormy_ | http://skygamestudios.weebly.com/ |
14:01.51 | Wormy_ | found it. That is probably it |
14:02.35 | Wormy_ | Oh wow they even ripped the old Spore website http://skygamingstudios.wix.com/spore2 |
14:03.28 | OluapWorker | It sounds like they're pretending to be an indie company who wants to make a sequel to the game |
14:03.33 | OluapWorker | Even if that was the case I'm pretty sure that'd be illegal |
14:04.08 | Wormy_ | I think its a complete joke |
14:04.24 | Wormy_ | Never the less it has tricked people |
14:04.53 | Wormy_ | Thee Aquatic stage screenshot look like they were made in GA http://skygamingstudios.wix.com/spore2#!screenshots/c4si |
14:07.04 | OluapWorker | Perhaps one day we'll finally get a true evolution simulator like Spore's original concept was like |
14:07.12 | OluapWorker | But I don't see that happening any time soon |
14:07.51 | Wormy_ | There are lots of things that are like parts of Spore and actually better. Like Species |
14:08.02 | Wormy_ | But Spore is the only attempt I know to link them all. |
14:08.57 | Wormy_ | This game simulates evolution much more realistically, I must download it at some point. http://www.speciesgame.com/ |
14:09.39 | OluapWorker | I'm surprised a sequel with more DLC hasn't come out by now |
14:10.02 | OluapWorker | Considering it's EA and Spore is very open for new features |
14:11.19 | OluapWorker | All they did was that Darkspore which was talked about for like a week before it was forgotten |
14:11.22 | Wormy_ | I think EA's position is that they'd rather rip out Spore's technology and concepts for other games. |
14:14.28 | OluapWorker | I suppose it's better to see it left alone than be turned into a cash cow |
14:15.34 | Wormy_ | yeah |
14:16.00 | Xho | Should I make Mhor's warhammer earth-magic based or sound-magic based |
14:16.18 | Xho | Wait there's no such thing as sound magic is there |
14:16.20 | Xho | Earth magic then |
14:16.24 | Wormy_ | "Sound-magic" sounds good |
14:16.33 | OluapWorker | Sound falls under arcane |
14:16.38 | Xho | rite |
14:17.10 | OluapWorker | hur at Species' development blog |
14:17.17 | OluapWorker | "What about Spore?" "[glares]" |
14:17.20 | Wormy_ | "Not like Spore!" |
14:17.33 | OluapWorker | it does look interesting |
14:17.35 | Wormy_ | it states that on top of the homepage |
14:18.11 | OluapWorker | "I had my sense of humour surgically removed for the sake of doing a concise FAQ that doesnât ramble on mindlessly about eldritch abominations, timecubes and orbital weaponry." |
14:18.17 | Monet | Audimancy - heavy metal magic. |
14:18.19 | OluapWorker | This guy could easily fit in here |
14:23.48 | Wormy_ | I just found on kicktarter game a bit like Spore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9Yg1ZtFd0 |
14:23.55 | Wormy_ | *found a game |
14:27.07 | OluapWorker | Looks nice |
14:27.13 | OluapWorker | But fuck me that's a tiny planet |
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14:33.15 | Wormy_ | I'm actually following a chapter in this book which tells you how to model and script cells to act as "Agents" moving in a dynamic environment http://store.elsevier.com/In-Silico/Jason-Sharpe/isbn-9780080879253/ |
14:33.35 | Wormy_ | Its gonna take me a while this Summer but it might be quite good |
14:33.41 | Monet | Reading Scarface on TV Tropes...I had no idea how deeply it inspidred GTA Vice City |
14:36.38 | Wormy_ | The problem I'm facing with the book is that I got the ebook version, so no DVD |
14:36.55 | Wormy_ | A couple of long bits of code were included in it |
14:37.06 | Wormy_ | But most of it, the book instructs |
14:37.32 | Wormy_ | Its fucking stupid that you can't download the extra material. |
14:38.09 | Wormy_ | But the book and VD was £200 to stuff that |
14:38.14 | Imperios | ...Fuck sake calculus was ridiculously easy this time |
14:38.18 | Wormy_ | ebook was 40 |
14:40.48 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f1/Mhor2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150502143453 Bane of the Fish |
14:41.23 | OluapWorker | winnie the mhoh |
14:41.56 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d5/MhorWarhammer.png/revision/latest?cb=20150502143739 And his weapon |
14:42.20 | Xho | One must take into account that's roughly the size of Pelagrios |
14:42.31 | OluapWorker | That's pretty good looking |
14:43.42 | Xho | I was gonna make it look like this weapon from Oblivion called Nerveshatter |
14:43.49 | Xho | http://images.uesp.net/b/b3/SI-item-Nerveshatter.png |
14:44.02 | Xho | Though it looks a little too evil for a good guy to use |
14:45.42 | OluapWorker | A little hur |
14:47.45 | Xho | Mhor vs Ndrhthryr |
14:47.47 | Xho | That would be fun |
14:48.34 | Xho | My bet is that Ndrhthryr would win but Mhor would give him a good challenge |
14:48.43 | Imperios | Xho: ×åòêèé ìåäâåäü, åïòà. |
14:48.45 | Imperios | ÕÀÉËÜ ÏÓÒÈÍ |
14:48.49 | Xho | I'm scared |
14:49.03 | OluapWorker | wat goin on |
14:49.25 | Xho | Mainly because his hammer emits shockwaves can could potentially knock Ndrhthryr flat |
14:49.33 | Xho | can could |
14:49.36 | Xho | Great English Xho |
14:54.58 | Wormy_ | I believe no more than four drunk people should be allowed on a train at anyone time |
14:55.10 | Xho | Heh |
14:56.29 | Wormy_ | A friend of mine just got off the train and loads of drunk football fuktards entered, and going through people's bags and stealing shit, thinking it was funny. The they started being rude and coming up close threatening to steal her stuff and insulting her for being a woman |
14:56.45 | Wormy_ | If someone was that close up to my face I think I would snap |
14:56.55 | Wormy_ | Then get beaten up by a group of thugs |
14:57.35 | Wormy_ | Tbh, if I was cornered and their face was close to mine I'd see as a weakness |
14:58.02 | Wormy_ | I really hope I do not snap in that situation |
14:58.35 | OluapWorker | No more than zero drunk people should exist ever |
14:58.39 | Xho | evurrr |
14:59.12 | Xho | I'm not a fan of being drunk though I like the taste of alcoholic drinks |
14:59.15 | Wormy_ | I don't understand why the train station would let such a nasty group of people in |
14:59.31 | Wormy_ | There are barriers and security |
14:59.43 | Xho | Though then again I imagine if alcoholic drinks didn't make you drunk the reaction you'd get from it wouldn't really exist |
15:00.14 | OluapWorker | Time to head home |
15:01.18 | ImpyDroid | Gah I am so dead I do not have a clue what to do |
15:02.08 | Xho | Rot |
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15:08.16 | Wormy_ | I've sent a complaint to East Midlands Trains. |
15:24.26 | Imperios | Xho: It's metallic |
15:24.30 | Imperios | The taste, I mean |
15:24.38 | Xho | of wat |
15:27.45 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mhor dun |
15:28.08 | Imperios | Of alcohol |
15:28.29 | Imperios | Monet: http://wowlol.ru/img3/5be7289a7e8699cc8e5b8b2f98da7f42.jpg |
15:28.37 | Xho | I dunno |
15:28.55 | Monet | Imperios: Heh |
15:30.22 | Xho | I could spoil where Mhor's weapon comes from if you wish to know |
15:33.47 | Xho | Though I want quotes first |
15:34.23 | Wormy_ | Well East Midlands Trains replied, in the usual polite but shrugging off manner |
15:35.00 | Wormy_ | I don't wanna go too far because I don't want police involved. |
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15:40.14 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mhor |
15:40.22 | OluapPlayer | i c |
15:40.25 | OluapPlayer | moo |
15:41.07 | OluapPlayer | MY NAME IS MISTER BEAR |
15:41.35 | Xho | Mhor - and dunt u forget it |
15:41.46 | Xho | I can spoil the origins of Mhor's weapon |
15:41.49 | Xho | If you gimme quotos |
15:42.04 | OluapPlayer | I would but I can't really think of any atm |
15:42.09 | OluapPlayer | Maybe after Angry Moon |
15:42.15 | Xho | dat gon b long time |
15:42.26 | Xho | Meh I can spoil it anyway |
15:42.43 | Xho | The core of the weapon is the reforged core of Maras the Destroyer's staff |
15:43.04 | OluapPlayer | Esulus - gimme dat Mhor - *glare* Esulus - fug |
15:43.39 | Xho | So if anyone had strong magical inclinations and actually strong enough to wield that hammer |
15:44.09 | Xho | One could potentially wield a similar degree of power to what Maras had |
15:44.45 | Xho | Though that being said Maras was psychotic and emotionally driven so perhaps not that far |
15:45.18 | Xho | Mhor has little magical degree so at the most he can cause shockwaves with it |
15:45.34 | Xho | Someone with Maras' power could probably shift gravity with it |
15:46.06 | Xho | Though where Maras' staff came from no one has a clue |
15:46.15 | Xho | Except Alhazred I guess |
15:47.13 | Xho | But yes the hammer was originally crafted by the Orayu around 18,000 years ago |
15:47.22 | OluapPlayer | Alhazred - a smith probably. what else |
15:48.43 | Xho | I would have thought that Maras acquired the staff rather than smithed it |
15:48.55 | Xho | Though I'll leave that in the open as to where it came from |
15:50.35 | Xho | Maras is probably the most powerful character I have come to think of it |
15:50.41 | Xho | If he were alive that is |
15:52.31 | Xho | Actually yeah it says on my list that he'd be my most powerful protagonist apart from Kinmo |
15:52.55 | Xho | Disregarding the gods of course |
15:53.15 | Xho | We should have some stories set with the Dawn Wardens |
15:53.22 | Xho | More that is |
15:54.37 | Monet | Maras - I'd have the whole world bowing to me if I wasn't dead. |
15:55.25 | Xho | Maras was too crazy to focus his powers so it only ever manifested when he was legitimately angry |
15:57.24 | Monet | "if he had half a brain he'd be dagerous" |
15:57.51 | Xho | But he was predominantly a good guy so I don't imagine Maras wanting to take over Koldenwelt |
15:58.02 | Xho | That and back then Maras was one of many beings as powerful as him |
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16:01.45 | drom | Good evening |
16:01.52 | Xho | Hi |
16:01.57 | drom | It has been a quite slow day for me. |
16:05.21 | drom | Off to play little of TF2 to see if this can "accelerate" my day. |
16:24.55 | Hachiman | So there is a race in Lord of the Rings: Online called the Beornings |
16:25.18 | Xho | dur |
16:25.45 | Hachiman | Who are Norse-esque race of Men who are large and can shapeshift into bears |
16:26.02 | Hachiman | Reminds me too much of the Norn from Guild Wars honestly |
16:28.18 | Monet | I belive Beornings predate both Guild Wars and LOTRO |
16:29.05 | Ghelae | No, Tolkein totally ripped off Guild Wars when he was writing The Hobbit. |
16:30.08 | Monet | So ueah, can't really say Beornings ar eripoffs. |
16:30.13 | Monet | are ripoffs* |
16:30.51 | Hachiman | Huh right |
16:30.54 | Hachiman | Did not know that |
16:32.02 | Monet | Understandablt though |
16:32.17 | Imperios | Norn are not only Norse though |
16:32.41 | Imperios | They're also somewhat Amerindian when it comes to their culture and religion |
16:33.03 | Wormy_ | Oh great now they want this reported to the police |
16:33.08 | Monet | The appearance of Beorn the Skin-Changer in Desolation of Smaug was something taken fro mthe books - and at the time the company met him, he was one of the last. |
16:33.26 | Wormy_ | As far as I'm concerned they have the CCTV footage |
16:35.01 | Monet | Is it just bears Norn can shapeshift into? |
16:35.08 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11062414_339529616237690_1003379755330331812_n.png?oh=5235c37700e9b72a4e25b4ae10d99a99&oe=55CD3432 |
16:35.17 | Hachiman | I believe Norn can shapeshift into multiple animals if I recall |
16:36.17 | Monet | If I recall their primary naimal spirits are bear, wolf and raven. Animals that have some significance in Nordic mythology. |
16:36.39 | Monet | Bears...I'm not sure their place |
16:37.37 | Monet | But wolves, you had two ever-hungry wolves owned by Odin and als oFenrir, ravens were said to be Odin's agents and their presence was said to be an omen of things to come. |
16:38.10 | Monet | Crows and wolves may have inspired the valkries due to their nature of cherry-picking corpses after a battle. |
16:39.33 | Monet | SInce I'm guessing the best carcasses would have been the biggest warriors and therefore had been the best or toughest in the battle. |
16:44.01 | Monet | Imperios: What aspects in particular? |
16:44.40 | Imperios | Their totem animals, their tattoos, et cetera |
16:44.47 | Imperios | Bear, Wolf, Raven and Snow Leopard |
16:44.49 | Imperios | And Bunny |
16:45.45 | Monet | I'm not 100% if their Tatoos are Amerindian, but I guess it depends |
16:46.49 | Monet | Norn tattoos look like they heavily feature Celtic knots |
16:48.12 | Wormy_ | drom http://imgur.com/gallery/pAbf5NP |
16:48.38 | Monet | Maybe Norn are part Celtic? |
16:49.06 | Monet | Isince IIRC Celtic cultures were pagan-esque |
16:51.05 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/mx7146W |
16:51.58 | drom | Wormy_: Expected third-point. Wasn't disappointed. |
16:53.48 | Monet | Hmm, I guess they oculd be a mix of al lthree |
16:54.03 | Monet | SInce Norn are for the most part, fairly passive. |
16:58.12 | Monet | I'm slightly concerned the Aeoneonatrix uno Ironsun's definitiion of slavery isn't as perfect as he thinks |
16:58.45 | Monet | First, that a thing, to qualify as slavery, must be an act. Second, it must involve persons or organizations trading the right, in the eyes of someone, to commit certain actions against another person. Third, such actions must be forbidden to be performed on persons not considered slaves." > this is the defenition he diesired sbut wouldn't this mean certain forms of indentured servitude are not classed as enslavement? |
16:59.30 | Ghelae | That would be a perfectly valid criticism to comment on. |
17:00.52 | Monet | Indentured Servitude, being contract based and agreed between the creditor and the person to indenture themselves, has a layer of willingness to it because the indebtor is consenting to essentiually sell themselves.. And in a few cases, that consent is willful |
17:01.04 | Ghelae | Although I'd be more concerned about Illu. Terius Kortobar, apparenltly a physics professor who wrote an article on Essence describing energy as "a kind of force". :P |
17:01.05 | Monet | indentor* |
17:02.09 | Monet | Probably my fault |
17:02.10 | Xho | http://imgur.com/gallery/brJkZ I have discovered this |
17:04.19 | Monet | "We all know that energy is not made up of particles, it is a way of describing transfers;" any better? |
17:05.00 | Ghelae | It is better, yes. |
17:07.57 | Monet | I imagine that a species that has reached the kind of consensus Terius proposes might have come to accept that Essence is not a form of pseudoscience |
17:08.55 | Imperios | Monet: Waht do you mean pagan-esque? |
17:09.14 | Imperios | They were pagan, though I am pretty sure they became Christian very early in their history |
17:09.20 | Ghelae | When it's something that has such visible direct effects on the universe it would be surprising for anyone to think of it as pseudoscience. |
17:09.34 | Ghelae | Except for the Tahar, it seems. |
17:09.56 | Wormy_ | glarfielf http://i.imgur.com/COWw9vo.gif |
17:10.03 | Monet | Apparently the Tahar's experiments came out negative. |
17:12.08 | Monet | I suppose either they were looking at it the wrong way (I remember they tried to debunk X-theory o nthe UDB by asking where the souls go) or they didn't have the right means to measure or examine it in a way other powers have done. |
17:12.36 | Hachiman | Hm |
17:13.12 | Hachiman | I might set up a kingdom of Khahurnim in the Tropical Lands that descend from the southern Khahurnim tribes that ventured outside of the Sea of Sand |
17:13.40 | Ghelae | It's possibly the former, subconsciously deliberately; at least I'm sure Irsk said that they were irrationally biased against anything seemingly supernatural out the fear that it would lead to a slipperly slope with worshipping deities at the end, |
17:13.52 | Ghelae | .* |
17:13.57 | Monet | Maybe the interchangeability of mundane and elemental energy is what stumped them? |
17:14.31 | Monet | They couldn't find anything because they were looking for something other than the mundane eneries. |
17:15.07 | Monet | Meditation also appears to be considered esoteric or ineffetive in Kraw Galaxy society, a technique many mentalists practice on a daily basis. |
17:15.24 | Ghelae | "Essence isn't supernatural, therefore it doesn't exist" seems like the kind of logic they'd turn to in that situation. |
17:15.55 | Monet | So the people they tested might of been unable to perform telekinesis largely because the had no idea how it came about. |
17:18.28 | Wormy_ | I don't think an entire galaxy's sentients can realistically think about the same things, and if it did, they would go nowhere in rationalising anything! |
17:20.03 | Monet | There are signs of it in the Kraw Galaxy though |
17:21.31 | Monet | The other possibility is the entire galaxy suffers from cultural osmosis fro mthe Kraw and Tahar empires |
17:43.12 | Monet | Ghelae: THat seems an understandable use of logic |
17:43.25 | Monet | "if it can be explained it's not magic, therefore it is bull" |
17:46.16 | Monet | Though I think they have accused psychics of "breaking the laws of the universe" |
17:47.04 | Ghelae | Really, they run on Irsk-logic. |
17:47.19 | Ghelae | Well, a more unreasonable version of it. |
17:47.25 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
17:49.12 | Ghelae | He did acknowledge they weren't actually being rational about it. |
17:51.00 | Monet | For one of the few mundane powers that referred to the Xhodocto as the Ayrai'Shikua, perhaps this is true. |
17:56.14 | Monet | Though I always thought "Ayrai'Shikua" was a name that wasn't ublicly known |
17:56.32 | Monet | Though I *do* wonder how widely known all these godbeings are |
17:57.25 | Ghelae | It wasn't known during the Tigris War, which is why the name "Xhodocto" became used, but I'm less sure about afterwards. |
17:58.13 | Monet | Something as universe-shaking as the existence of a real god seems worth covering up in mass media to some degree. |
17:59.11 | Monet | Within the DI, the undead plague during the Holy Shadow War/War of Claim was largely informed to be nanotechnological in nature. |
17:59.54 | Monet | And during the Second War of Black Fog, the Kikra Castes may have been given a similar origin withi nthe tabloids. |
18:01.55 | Monet | I can see Daily Mail analogues going crazy with headlines like "Foreign self-replication nanotech runs amok" or "Crisis as trillions infected with nanite terror weapon" |
18:03.32 | Ghelae | There was more to the Second War of Black Fog than the Kikras, though, so on some planets it would be harder to cover up. |
18:04.48 | Monet | Give nthe tech level of the modern gigaquadrant it seems possible to create casimilies of more commonly-witnessed demons. |
18:05.01 | Monet | facsimilies* |
18:05.19 | Ghelae | Most likely. There are only so many laws of physics to violate, and hyperspatial technologies seem to have most of those covered at least appearance-wise. |
18:05.43 | Monet | Though the invincible Kaiju demons are either biomechanical cosntructs or, well, demons. |
18:06.03 | Monet | In the media eye I mean |
18:06.51 | Monet | Stuff like Kolossus vs Tyras is probably *very* difficult to explain with science though so that one is very likely ot be either the truth or covered in tabloid bullshit. |
18:07.36 | Monet | We really need more light on what mass media are doing with all these demons and gods and corruptive energies. |
18:07.55 | Ghelae | That's something I've never thought of. These huge fights are going on and, several miles away, paparazzi are taking photos with telescopic lenses. |
18:08.28 | Technobliterator | I wish we could've made that Tigris War remake |
18:08.50 | Monet | What's stopping us this time? |
18:08.56 | Ghelae | I don't think there's no chance of it being made; it just looks very unlikely to happen soon. |
18:09.51 | Technobliterator | Xho was uninterested |
18:09.58 | Technobliterator | Oluap was uninterested |
18:10.11 | Technobliterator | I didn't want to do it alone |
18:10.25 | Monet | I would have been up for it, but we kinda needed Xho |
18:10.38 | Ghelae | Same here. |
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18:11.04 | Monet | So you wouldn't have been alone in doing it |
18:11.24 | Monet | It's just someone else would need to conduct the Congregation |
18:11.53 | Technobliterator | We were waiting for him to plan the plot, then he lost interest before he did |
18:12.38 | Technobliterator | I might be able to just plan it myself and get it ok'd from him and get him partly involved, I dunno |
18:13.00 | Ghelae | I don't see why that shouldn't work. |
18:13.17 | Technobliterator | it could |
18:13.20 | Ghelae | Although again, you don't need to do it all by yourself if you don't want to. |
18:13.28 | Technobliterator | I also need to rewrite the Taldar page : | |
18:14.05 | Monet | The good news is summer's coming |
18:14.12 | Monet | That means summer fiction time |
18:14.43 | Technobliterator | and it means I can do lots more of everything because my exams will be over |
18:17.48 | Monet | Wooh! |
18:22.08 | Monet | I've pioneered a writing technique where two or more people discuss what's happening, then writeups are left independantly (think coding only without source material or RP archives) to who feels up to it. The stories are then consented before being published |
18:23.55 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, Hachiman, tell me when you guys are free |
18:24.06 | OluapPlayer | Not today |
18:24.13 | Technobliterator | aw |
18:24.56 | Hachiman | Well I would have been able to |
18:25.49 | Tek0516 | I've actually been on summer break for over a week now. :D |
18:28.27 | OluapPlayer | I'm not in the mood of rping today |
18:29.17 | OluapPlayer | If you want to get the section done by yourselves you can do it |
18:29.39 | Hachiman | I'd rather not |
18:30.33 | Wormy_ | 10 Future Cities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqBwDB_2F34 |
18:34.45 | Monet | Wormy_: Can't hlep noticing the number of such future cities located in East Asia and the Middle East. |
18:35.10 | Wormy_ | Sometimes I think they are more forward thinking than us. |
18:35.54 | Wormy_ | Especially number 3, China building floating cities to move their population from the mainland as the sea levels rise. |
18:36.06 | Monet | Ehh #10 sounds like an attempt by Azerbaijan to show off to me |
18:37.01 | Wormy_ | Also, tens of billions of dollars is nothing. An Airliner can cost just as much if not more. |
18:37.45 | Monet | Actually each airliner still costs in them illions |
18:38.06 | Wormy_ | Maybe it was a set of airliners then |
18:38.26 | Monet | It's more likely the R&D projects to develop them that are what costs billions |
18:39.51 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I saw it in a dicussion where space projects are expensive but still things much more expebsive are spent all the time. |
18:39.51 | Monet | An Airbus A380 costs only $480 million a craft. |
18:40.11 | Monet | 428 million* |
18:43.18 | Monet | ANd yeah, space operations cost billions easily. In the Apollo Progam's case it cost the United states a total of 25 billion dollars. |
18:43.27 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Also space tends to produce less direct financial returns. |
18:43.54 | Monet | in 1975 money |
18:44.41 | Wormy_ | That's true, unfortunately. |
18:45.22 | Monet | An estimated 16.7 billion was on the craft itself, and another 4 billion to keep the facilities running |
18:45.32 | Monet | on the craft and launch vehicles* |
18:47.03 | Monet | I had a brief look and the Lockheed Martin F-22 raptor is priced at $150 million a jet |
18:47.33 | Monet | But the F-22 program itself is estimated at $88 billion. |
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18:48.12 | Technobliterator | hihi |
18:49.34 | Monet | I wonder if some of these cities are being built to solv issues the Western Hemisphere either isn't so panicked about or has already solved. |
18:50.13 | Monet | Stuff like the King Abdullah Financial City could essentially be a financial CBD build fro mthe ground up |
18:50.51 | Monet | In the West, we might not cnsider building these things because the City of London, New York FInancial or Silicon Valley work just fine. |
18:52.11 | Wormy_ | Possibly, they are much older cities with more connections to the world. |
18:52.42 | Wormy_ | And their locations are pretty important. |
18:52.49 | Monet | Yeah. |
18:53.05 | Wormy_ | While I guess in the East its much more experimental. |
18:53.36 | Monet | Although "the World Islands" in Dubai? |
18:53.38 | Monet | ...yeah that thing's basically the Mega-Rich showing off. |
18:53.53 | Wormy_ | lol |
18:54.14 | Monet | Because I do not see any houses on that island being with less than $3 million |
18:54.20 | Monet | worth* |
18:54.27 | The_Randomness | dang |
18:55.05 | Wormy_ | Though, I think those countries are also aware that oil is finite resource, and once its gone its gone. So thats why they are making cities more environmental and for different avenues like trade. |
18:55.33 | Wormy_ | Cities like Dubai I believe, their only source of wealth is oil. |
18:55.42 | Wormy_ | Could be wrong, but yeah |
18:56.17 | Monet | http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01532/dubai-island_1532127i.jpg well I found an exampel of one of the completed islands |
18:57.33 | Wormy_ | Would make a great James Bond type location. |
18:57.35 | Monet | http://www.homebase2.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/080424-homebase2com-lwdesign-TheWorld-France-Spain-Overview-B.jpg and a visualisation of one of the community/resort islands |
18:57.55 | Imperios | Monet: Remember what you said about Wakanda and Latveria yesterday? |
18:59.00 | Monet | Imperios: In regards to how Marvel seems to be less liberal than DC when it comes to ficticious real-world nations? I remember |
18:59.07 | Imperios | Yeah |
18:59.17 | Imperios | This made me think about where the final battle in AoU was set |
18:59.20 | Imperios | Belarus? |
18:59.54 | Monet | An Eastern European country |
19:02.16 | Monet | Wheras DC you have ficticious American cities like Gotham and Metropolis and countries like Pokolistan, Qurac, Syraq and Themyscira. |
19:04.05 | Wormy_ | Monet: Do you think the Cultists are possibly descended from robots that served the Endless? https://youtu.be/9xD9UkJQAiw?t=5m38s |
19:04.24 | Wormy_ | The broken parts make me think they are robots |
19:05.13 | Monet | They do look quite robotic |
19:05.46 | Monet | That or the Cultists all wear the same protective armour |
19:06.28 | Wormy_ | I wonder if the Necrophages become the Cravers |
19:07.03 | Wormy_ | If that's the case, the Vaulters possible accidently unleashed them |
19:07.12 | Monet | Imperios: It's a stretch but maybe the inclusion of Belarus is a hint towards the AoU comic? |
19:07.28 | Wormy_ | The theory is that the Vaulters fixed their crashed starship and got off-world, then forgot its location |
19:07.47 | Imperios | They use Cyrillic script, but it's not Russian, and the aesthetics are vaguely USSR-esque |
19:11.01 | Wormy_ | I love how all the games and story are still under development. |
19:11.12 | Monet | In the comics, Ultron arrives in the present from the future but I can't tell where. |
19:11.22 | Wormy_ | Masybe in the next we have to rediscover Auriga somehow |
19:11.55 | Hachiman | >Story is still in development |
19:11.58 | Hachiman | Wow how cheap |
19:12.11 | Hachiman | Literally making stuff up as they go along |
19:12.14 | Wormy_ | What? |
19:12.30 | Wormy_ | I didn't mean it like that. |
19:12.57 | Wormy_ | Anyway I think the story is pretty good. |
19:13.12 | Monet | But in one alternate timeline, where Wolverine kills Hank Pym and Tony Stark becomes leader of the free world (long story), there is mention of an assault in Latveria that went sour after ENchantress showed up with an army and kicked the shit out of Stark's forces, quickly taking over Europe. |
19:14.27 | Wormy_ | What I mean by "under development" is that the games haven't been forgotten, they get DLC's and are linked to each other. But if the theory is correct it will probably involve a fourth game. I have no idea if it was pre-planned or if they are doing it as they go along. |
19:16.46 | Wormy_ | Endless Space is one of those few games with OA-level speculative sci-fi anyway |
19:17.14 | Wormy_ | It has all sorts of speculative tech, alien races and events, and so on. |
19:19.21 | Monet | Also looking the EU |
19:19.28 | Monet | The Celestials are canon. |
19:19.40 | Monet | The Marvel Cinematic Universe I mean |
19:20.05 | Monet | Because Knowhere i supposed to be the head of a dead one. |
19:21.08 | Wormy_ | Whenever I try to classify Marvel aliens in the Tier scale I go "yewwww" tbh |
19:21.31 | Monet | Not surprising |
19:21.53 | Wormy_ | Pretty much Clarke's Third Law on steroids yet they feel very human-like |
19:22.01 | Monet | Although idk by the looks of GotG the MCU aliens might be more consistent. |
19:22.10 | Monet | Except for Thanos |
19:22.52 | Monet | Nova Prime for isntance is supposed to have cosmic-level supernatural power. |
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19:24.16 | Monet | And in Avengers vs X-Men he arrives on Earth SUperman-style, going at superluminal speeds, including reentry, and the worst he had was a few burn marks and maybe a broken ribs after encountering the Phoenix. |
19:24.54 | Monet | MCU's Nova Prime? As far as we can tell she's pretty normal aside fro mknowledge of the Infinity Stones. |
19:26.04 | Monet | Then again, the Nova Corps in the Marvel Universe is supposed to be a space-based superhero team. |
19:26.36 | Monet | Wheras i nthe MCU it's the police force for the Xandar ian Empire(?). |
19:26.41 | Monet | Xandarian* |
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19:28.09 | Monet | Hello |
19:28.19 | Monet | But this is one of the believability issues with comics |
19:28.52 | Monet | It's not very healthy for the left-brain, but the right-brain loves what it sees |
19:29.29 | Wormy_ | Of course |
19:31.07 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
19:32.00 | Monet | One man can indeed make a difference |
19:33.03 | Wormy_ | I feel that a simple policy to stop large groups of thieving, drunken louts should be easy. Afterall the station in question has barriers and security, and there is a taxi station outside. |
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19:41.29 | Wormy_ | I hate bloodsport |
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19:44.53 | Technobliterator | what happened? |
19:45.40 | Wormy_ | "Hell no. I went snorkeling in Hawaii as a kid, and saw the continental shelf. Terrified me to just see the ground disappear into deep blue." http://imgur.com/gallery/jgSivmp |
19:45.42 | Monet | In the case of East Midlands trains, I'd say its jsutifiable |
19:46.38 | Monet | "Hell no. I went snorkeling in Hawaii as a kid, and saw the continental shelf. Terrified me to just see the ground disappear into deep blue." this kept me from swimming to far into the North Sea when I was younger. |
19:46.50 | Wormy_ | lol |
19:47.09 | Monet | And by "two far" I mean "unable to touch the seabed and still breathe" |
19:47.29 | Wormy_ | I don't normally swim far out at all |
19:47.42 | Wormy_ | I'm afraid of jellyfish :/ |
19:47.48 | Wormy_ | and sweeping currents |
19:48.21 | Wormy_ | I have had near misses with jellyfish |
19:48.32 | Wormy_ | Though I think they were of the none-stinging type |
19:49.03 | Monet | At the time I may have been unaware that the closest I was closer to Norway than I was the continenetal shelf. |
19:49.20 | Monet | that i was closer to Norway than I was t othe continental shelf* |
19:51.28 | Monet | I used ot have books on the ocean |
19:52.12 | Wormy_ | still, quite deep |
19:52.40 | Wormy_ | Scarily, I learned that cliffs in the sea can cause downsweeping currents that can drag divers down |
19:52.56 | Wormy_ | There is a way to escape though, by swimming horizontally away |
20:08.50 | Wormy_ | Vampire stars are a little creepy http://phys.org/news/2015-04-nustar-captures-zombie-stars.html |
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20:10.58 | The_Randomness | Hello |
20:11.14 | Cyrannian | Hai |
20:11.58 | Technobliterator | hihi |
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22:22.50 | Hachiman | Externalizer needs to stop fucking deleting those threads |
22:24.06 | Monet | Deleting from his wall is one thing |
22:24.25 | Monet | Deleting from other peopels' walls? Now that's uncalled for. |
22:24.44 | OluapPlayer | He only deletes conversations he started |
22:24.50 | OluapPlayer | I personally don't see an issue |
22:25.10 | Monet | He may think the conversations are done and that they are not needed, but what if the other person wants to keep record? |
22:28.10 | Technobliterator | You should not remove talk page content unless it is vandalism |
22:28.42 | OluapPlayer | Watching you get salty about it amuses me greatly hur |
22:28.56 | Monet | I was fine with what he was doing until he started deleting convos he started on other peoples' message walls. |
22:31.29 | Technobliterator | Even deleting from his own wall is wrong |
22:31.34 | Technobliterator | But less wrong |
22:58.42 | Wormy_ | It was our policy not to. But unfortunately Wikia has provided the ability for him to remove them, and so we may no longer have a rule against it. This is another case of how bad wikia'a lstest updates are. |
22:59.30 | Technobliterator | Wormy_, that's not true |
22:59.44 | Technobliterator | We can have a rule against it regardless of what Wikia allowed |
22:59.51 | Wormy_ | I'm indifferent to him removing stuff from his own wall. Though removing them others isn't good. |
23:00.12 | Technobliterator | They added the feature specifically so a user can remove spam or harassment |
23:00.46 | Wormy_ | I don't see why we need an archive of his personal messages though |
23:00.56 | Wormy_ | I'm not too bothered about it |
23:01.39 | Technobliterator | Because all discussion that occurred on the wiki should be recorded on the wiki, because it is bad courtesy to remove good-faith messages, and because you do not own your message wall - the wiki owns it |
23:02.32 | Wormy_ | Other than that, it doesn't really cut to the core why he is obligated to keep messages. There needs to be a stronger reason for me why we need to archive message walls these days. |
23:03.02 | Wormy_ | I can understand the archival of talk pages back in the day when we were mostly discussing maintenance |
23:03.30 | Technobliterator | If a staff member tells you not to do something, for instance |
23:03.30 | Wormy_ | Like you said, its not an official rule of wikia |
23:03.36 | Technobliterator | You should not remove that message |
23:04.40 | Technobliterator | And you should not decide what messages stay on someone else' talk page, either |
23:05.13 | Wormy_ | I'll give you that, at the minimum keeping such staff messages or ones important for the wiki as a whole. |
23:05.50 | Wormy_ | And I'll agree he shouldb't be removing other people's |
23:06.46 | Wormy_ | Externalizer should listen to us too, he is being rather rude. |
23:07.41 | Technobliterator | Exactly |
23:08.32 | Technobliterator | It's an unwritten rule, but we should write it |
23:10.17 | Technobliterator | hm |
23:10.44 | Technobliterator | maybe removing notices you add to your own message wall should be allowed |
23:16.18 | Monet | Wormy_: Watching a video on the Dust Wars and it makes me wonder if Morphis would ever end up in a similar direction. |
23:17.18 | Monet | With its increased use and borader scope, more and more imperial citizens have personal Morphis colonies that give them all kinds of an edge in life due to the modifications it makes to a host's body cells. |
23:20.16 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
23:20.47 | Wormy_ | I can see that happening |
23:21.24 | Wormy_ | Perhaps a whole "nanocology" is evolving from the use of bio nanotech |
23:21.49 | Wormy_ | And will evolve in its own ways in the future |
23:22.48 | Monet | Though unlike Dust, Morphis isn't designed to interface with other colonies. |
23:23.38 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, since you're the only only admin I haven't checked with yet, what is your opinion on the talk page removal thing? Is it just that you have no issue with people removing their own messages/messages on their own talk pages? |
23:24.33 | Monet | I tried to consider a divide between pro- and anti- Morphis in Morphis RIsing. |
23:26.39 | Monet | But i lost momentum when I wondered how to move forward |
23:36.49 | OluapPlayer | Sorry I'm in a game |
23:36.54 | OluapPlayer | And yes that's how I see it |
23:37.00 | Technobliterator | np |
23:37.02 | Technobliterator | alright |
23:37.14 | Technobliterator | I'll check with random and ghel before I add it to the rules page |
23:57.46 | TekDroid | https://m.imgur.com/gallery/MiYLtNa |