IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150430

00:00.02DrodoEmpireThere are fairly good meat alternatives anyway, Externalizer.
00:00.03DrodoEmpireWell
00:00.17DrodoEmpire"Good" in terms of protein content, etc.
00:00.27DrodoEmpireTaste is pretty foul
00:00.30DrodoEmpire:P
00:00.51ExternalizerDrodoEmpire: Two things, yes there are good meat alternatives. And the second thing, is that, I don't care about ones diet choices, but flaming someone because they eat MEAT?
00:00.56ExternalizerDats stupid
00:01.06DrodoEmpireWell yeah of course
00:01.14DrodoEmpireBut its a two way street
00:01.25DrodoEmpireYou're practically flaming *them* for not eating it.
00:01.34DrodoEmpireNot right either way. :p
00:02.00Wormy_I'm actually a vegetarian and had vegan dinners often as a child.  I turned out okay.
00:02.28ExternalizerI'm flaming them for flaming us for eating meat.
00:03.00ExternalizerMeh. I'm a meatatarian
00:03.14ExternalizerMeat is invaluable to me, but I can go without it for a few months.
00:03.15DrodoEmpireTwo wrongs only rarely make a right. :p Its pretty silly to do so here, where they can't hear you.
00:03.37DrodoEmpire*pretty silly to do here, anyhow,
00:04.29ExternalizerDrodo: I just made a twitter account. :/
00:04.35Wormy_I think excessive meat eating is actually associated with diseases and shit, as we were never meant to over consume it like we do in the West.  But I'm not anti-meating, as long as the animals were raised ethically and antibiotics are not abused
00:04.40ExternalizerAnd two wrongs is fun.
00:05.02ExternalizerWormy_: American west?
00:05.12Wormy_Plus like I said with soya and wheat, the whole industry is at fault
00:05.19DrodoEmpire"West" as in Europe, and the Americas.
00:05.22ExternalizerYeah, overeating meat is bad, but eating it is natural.
00:05.23Wormy_^
00:05.35DrodoEmpireNot the "american west". Very few of us are American.
00:05.36DrodoEmpire:L
00:06.15ExternalizerI am. Well, raised in America, but I am a near pure-blooded Taino Puerto Rican.
00:06.31ExternalizerA few people in my bloodline are not Puerto Rican.
00:06.43Wormy_A recent study showed that after Africans and Americans swapped diets for a couple of weeks, the Africans were more likely to develop colon cancer
00:07.19Wormy_That was after, I should say
00:08.08DrodoAwayBe back soon
00:08.15DrodoAwayTaking a walk
00:08.16Wormy_I find the smell and taste of meat disgusting, so I cannot bring myself to eat it
00:08.44TekDroidI am Canadian and anyone who calls me American will be burned at the stake. :P
00:08.49DrodoAway^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
00:09.18Wormy_These were USAians
00:13.07Wormy_External:  Did you troll him yet?
00:13.43ExternalizerWormy_: No, soon. I am watching my little ssister for the time being.
00:18.26ExternalizerNah, I'm not gonna do it.
00:18.39ExternalizerThat person should just be driven to suicide.
00:19.45Externalizerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimtQWo-wF4&feature=youtu.be
00:22.07ExternalizerWormy_: Let's troll him on his youtube account!!! :DDD https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYxaGj0gradnkJkwpKN1_SQ/videos
00:22.45Wormy_nah, I won't
00:23.49ExternalizerAlready left a message on his discussion
00:23.57ExternalizerTold him to use different methods.
00:26.56ExternalizerWormy_: Also, why aren't you uploading video? Last one you made was a year ago.
00:28.11Wormy_Not enough time
00:28.18Wormy_Maybe this summer
00:28.37ExternalizerSame with Cyrannian. Last upload was 4 years ago. :/
00:29.40ExternalizerTechnobliterator: Hello? You there? And, why did you delete my B.A.C symbol?
00:32.43Wormy_bye
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00:32.55The_Randomnessayy lmao
00:33.04Wormy_hi bye
00:33.04ExternalizerBye
00:33.12ExternalizerTECH
00:33.17ExternalizerGAAAAAAAAAAAA
00:34.09ExternalizerAnyone here have the Forgotten Spore mod?
00:34.19ExternalizerThe_Randomness do you?
00:34.29The_Randomnessnever used mods tbh
00:35.15Externalizeru shuld. dark injection iz tha best. so iz forgoten spor
00:35.43The_Randomnessmeh, I can't find a reason for me to open up the game again tbh
00:36.47ExternalizerHow come ose is here but isn't online in Spore Wiki
00:37.19The_RandomnessBecause maybe he doesn't have it open?
00:38.36Externalizer?
00:38.54ExternalizerThat works...how?
00:38.56The_RandomnessThe webpage that is, if I understand what you're asking correctly
00:40.43ExternalizerNo, he isn't active in the actual Wikia, but is present 24/7 here...for some reason.
00:41.08The_RandomnessI wouldn't know why he lurks
00:42.24Externalizerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1xQih0Udxw
00:42.24DrodoAwayvery belated ayy lmao
00:42.37DrodoEmpire>.<
00:43.01ExternalizerMore stuff from that Vegan Revolution...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1xQih0Udxw
00:46.40ExternalizerI find it funny how these vegans insult meat-eaters because they eat meat.
00:46.48ExternalizerWould that count as a frm of racism?
00:46.53The_Randomnessno
00:47.08ExternalizerJudging people by their skin - judging people by their diet
00:47.42ExternalizerI'll rebel with Flavortown!
00:47.45Externalizerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXdnYd0wwDE
00:47.58DrodoEmpireIt'd simply be general prejudice/discrimination. Still silly but meh
00:48.15The_RandomnessYeah, it would just be discrimination, but not racism.
00:48.28DrodoEmpireraciss
00:49.16The_RandomnessRace already has a cloudy definition, but I don't believe it's so nebulous as to include the vegetarian/omnivore diet distinction
00:49.24DrodoEmpire^
00:50.05ExternalizerImma meatatarian
00:50.22DrodoEmpireYeah, race is... weird. A lot of people'll point out different races amongst whites (Celtic versus Slavic people, for example), or really any group we generally see as a "race".
00:50.36DrodoEmpireThough I guess that's an ethnicity at that point
00:50.46DrodoEmpireWhich is just as poorly-defined.
00:50.47DrodoEmpire:p
00:51.31ExternalizerCarrots, bananas,apples, starfruit, breadfruit, mangos, blueberries, rasberries, blackberries, and such KILL ME
00:51.53The_RandomnessFruit rocks man
00:52.43TechnobliteratorExternaliser, we do not allow plagiarism on SporeWiki
00:52.54TechnobliteratorOr copyright violation
00:54.19Externalizer?
00:54.22ExternalizerAlright.
00:54.28ExternalizerGtg.
01:06.45DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/G35J1Kw
01:06.47DrodoEmpireOh dear
01:07.43The_RandomnessI get the meme, but I honestly can't find that funny
01:08.55DrodoEmpireIts a bit of a cruel joke, yeah.
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01:09.14ExternalizerBack. And I also got the picture of the internet Google Images, tech. :/
01:09.30ExternalizerAlso, could someone check this page: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kitos
01:09.32DrodoEmpireI like a bit of shock humour, though. :p
01:09.50DrodoEmpireWhat about it?
01:10.22ExternalizerLooks somewhat like the BSE. I know it's new, but it looks like it.
01:10.34ExternalizerAnd what were people talking about when I was gone
01:13.14Externalizer1234567890123456789012345678901234567890869306371903465198456346986198517817656389516189564173806958 is the dissolution point. Is the universe still alive then?
01:13.28ExternalizerOr by extent, the entire Omniverse
01:14.28The_Randomnesswait, what?
01:16.13The_RandomnessThe universe would effectively be dead by then
01:17.08ExternalizerWhen the I.P address gets an account, will someone tell them to tone down that page?
01:17.38The_RandomnessYeah, that's way after nucleons would have decayed
01:18.46DrodoEmpireIts a silly fiction. Not hurting nobody
01:18.47DrodoEmpire:p
01:18.53The_Randomnessyeah
01:18.56DrodoEmpireAs long as it isn't part of the fictionverse its good.
01:20.18ExternalizerBut seriously, by then, 81236 Scourges must've happened.
01:23.43ExternalizerOof, this needs some cleaning up: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Development_of_Spore
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03:28.01TekDroid>.< This bandage thing is supposed to stay in for 3 days, but I got it this afternoon and it's already disintegrating.
03:36.48AdmiralPandawhat did you do to yourself?
03:44.10TekDroidI had to have a minor dental procedure, nothing serious.
03:56.23Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:League_Of_Patrons#Heretica
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07:51.27Wormy_hi
07:51.39GhelaeHello.
08:00.02Wormy_Ghel:  Endless Legend sits in the same universe as Endless Space and are regressed aliens and humans that became trapped on an artificial planet  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xD9UkJQAiw
08:00.16Wormy_The references to tech being seen as magic is everywhere
08:13.20Wormy_bbl
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09:09.48*** topic/#sporewiki is SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/
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09:25.25GhelaeWormy_: Watched that Endless Legend video you posted.
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10:15.34AdmiralPandahi all
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11:58.59AndroImpyHi
11:59.52AndroImpyOluapWorker: Can you link the Sims artifact Titanpad article again?
12:01.38OluapWorkerOne sec
12:05.08OluapWorkerI can't access the logs so I can't get the link
12:05.25OluapWorkerYou'll have to wait until either Xho or Hachi gets online
12:10.34AndroImpyNom I found it myself
12:10.59OluapWorkerrite
12:10.59AndroImpy*Nvm
12:20.39AndroImpyHm
12:28.38AndroImpyhttps://derpicdn.net/img/2015/2/7/823484/thumb.png
12:30.18OluapWorkermy little goy
12:33.10AndroImpyI actually saw a thread on a Neo-Nazi forum about whether Nazis can watch MLP
12:37.45OluapWorkerWhy wouldn't they?
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12:55.48AndroImpyOluapWorker: Well Twilight Sparkle is voiced by a Jewish woman
12:56.21OluapWorkerRight
12:56.41AndroImpyhttps://www.stormfront.org/forum/t817441/ there
13:01.13AndroImpy>
13:01.22AndroImpy> Dude, i really like MLP, Rainbow Dash (that pony on the pick), is my 2° favorite pony, she's beauty isn't it? i love her tomboy way of life, it makes me less white?
13:01.50AndroImpyRainbow Dash has magic tanning powers
13:02.58OluapWorker"it makes me less white"
13:03.05OluapWorkerWhat in the name of
13:04.36AdmiralPandapretty sure that's not imp talking
13:04.40AdmiralPandaeven for him that's weird
13:05.57AndroImpyHey what was that supposed to mean
13:06.10AndroImpyThat was a quote from Stormfront, I am not even white to begin with
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13:17.37ImpyDroidDid anyone say anything
13:18.35OluapWorkerNope
13:24.26ImpyDroid...Not sure why Panda always likes to make fun of me
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13:30.43GhelaeHello.
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13:33.31JepardiHi
13:33.55AdmiralPandaI'm Australian, making fun of people is a pre-programmed compulsion
13:34.15AdmiralPandaand if you say something without context I am going to make fun of it
13:34.21ImpyDroidHur
13:34.49ImpyDroidI'll be an Russian intellectual and *contemplate in sorrow*
13:37.25OluapWorkerGhelae: Hello. Do you know what this Enigmar Rift mentioned in the Koldenwelt page is meant to be?
13:38.32GhelaeIt sounds familiar... I think it might be from one of Hachi's long-since deleted fictions.
13:38.58OluapWorkerI can't find any other mention of it anywhere and I was wondering if you knew what it was
13:39.06OluapWorkerif it's nothing used then I'll take it over
13:39.43GhelaeYes, it was the home of Durus Monstrum.
13:39.46ImpyDroidhttp://www.sporistics.com/?p=asset:500705117456 So that's how the Klaxxa looked like
13:40.02OluapWorkerDurus Monstrum
13:40.07OluapWorkerDon't remember that
13:40.14GhelaeThat character was deleted back in September 2011.
13:40.15OluapWorkerImpyDroid: EYE
13:40.16OluapWorkerS
13:40.29Ghelaehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Undelete?target=Captain%3ADurus_Monstrum
13:40.31OluapWorkerI doubt he'll mind if I reuse it then
13:40.40GhelaeYou can view the page there if you really want to.
13:40.48GhelaeIt looks like I didn't delete the old image either.
13:40.59OluapWorkerCan't say I'm not curious
13:41.27ImpyDroidBy the way
13:41.35OluapWorkerIt's just a big purple man hur
13:41.43ImpyDroidWill any of the Sims stories take place in the Desert?
13:41.48GhelaeThose old Klaxxa are like the original Radeons, but grey lizards instead of yellow mice.
13:42.21ImpyDroidYou mean the Rades
13:43.34GhelaeI mean the Radeon model that was used back when the Tigris War was first written.
13:43.41GhelaeI remember them having big eyes too.
13:46.08GhelaeI can't remember why we kept the reference to the Enigmar Rift on the Koldenwelt page. Presumably it was so that the name could be reused.
13:46.38ImpyDroidAh
13:46.56ImpyDroidSims as in the Sim artifscts
13:48.13OluapWorkerPresumably the Crux's since the Exosubstratal live in the desert
13:48.20OluapWorkerUnless Hachi has other stuff in mind
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13:50.17dromHey
13:50.42ImpyDroidI thought of setting AX's story in Alhassal
13:51.22OluapWorkerYou can set it wherever you want, you'll lead the section
13:52.03AdmiralPandaas much as I enjoy FFXIV's fishing system, this fish hates me
13:52.14AdmiralPandaand RNGesus took a holiday
13:54.01OluapWorkerI'll be turning the Enigmar Rift into an entrance to the Underworld guarded by a big three-headed doge
13:54.20OluapWorkerStill the mention on the main page can probably be removed when/if we ever rewrite that part
13:54.42AdmiralPandamake sure the dog's name is Spot in some ancient language
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14:08.24HachimanHai
14:09.34OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
14:09.35infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
14:10.07GhelaeHello.
14:10.22OluapWorkerHachiman: You made an old fiction called Enigmar Rift in Koldenwelt back in 2011 which you haven't used since. Would you mind if I took that over?
14:11.51HachimanEnigmar Rift?
14:12.19OluapWorkerSee, you don't even remember it hur
14:12.26Hachimanlink me dis
14:12.34OluapWorkerThere's no link
14:12.38OluapWorkerIt was deleted years ago
14:12.48OluapWorkerBut it's still mentioned in the main page
14:12.50GhelaeIt didn't have its own page; it was mentioned as the home of Durus Monstrum on his page.
14:12.57HachimanOh Durus
14:13.19HachimanYeah if you wanna I suppose
14:13.30OluapWorkerI was thinking of reworking it to be an entrance to the Underworld guarded by Kerberos
14:14.08HachimanYeah that works
14:14.28OluapWorkerI could reuse Durus too if you want
14:15.11HachimanWhat would you recycle him as?
14:15.29OluapWorkerI had the idea his race could be a reclusive culture who guards the Rift and therefore you need to get past them to get to Kerberos
14:15.32OluapWorkerDurus could be their leader
14:15.46HachimanSo
14:15.59HachimanHm yeah alright
14:16.17HachimanWhere would the Rift be located again?
14:16.18OluapWorkerYou don't seem very comfortable with the idea
14:16.35OluapWorkerTropical Lands, as the main page states
14:17.35OluapWorkerIt was just an idea, I can go for something else entirely
14:17.59HachimanI am comfortable with the idea, I was just wondering if it could be an opportunity to revise Durus myself but if you wanna use him go ahead
14:18.31OluapWorkerHe's your fiction, if you want to bring him back then go ahead
14:19.03HachimanI like the idea of his people guarding the Rift and serving Kerberos
14:19.19HachimanAs in, I really like that idea hur
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14:20.54TekDroidHello
14:21.12OluapWorkerI wouldn't say they would serve Kerberos. More like they'd be allies and his people who have Mortium as their patron god
14:21.27HachimanYeah
14:21.34OluapWorkerwould have*
14:23.26HachimanTell you what, I like this idea yeah
14:23.50HachimanIf it doesn't hurt your plans, could I revise Durus Monstrum while you recycle the Enigmar Rift and such?
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14:25.38OluapWorker_Cunting internet
14:25.54HachimanTell you what, I like this idea yeah
14:25.55HachimanIf it doesn't hurt your plans, could I revise Durus Monstrum while you recycle the Enigmar Rift and such?
14:25.58OluapWorker_And yes I agree with that if you're really willing to let me use the Rift
14:26.12HachimanAye I am
14:27.05OluapWorker_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Charon i've revised the first of the four pages
14:29.09HachimanOoh I like
14:29.14HachimanSeems like a nice figure hur
14:32.07OluapWorkerWill you write about Durus' race or do I do it?
14:32.57HachimanI'll do it
14:33.09OluapWorkerOkay
14:33.26OluapWorkerI'll leave the Rift to you then
14:33.37HachimanI thought you wanted the Rift?
14:33.57OluapWorkerI'll only use the Underworld entrance
14:34.54HachimanWeren't you gonna turn it into one big Underworld entrance?
14:35.24OluapWorkerNo, I had other things in mind
14:35.38OluapWorkerBut I'll just follow your lead
14:37.16HachimanWell if we're gonna cooperate I wanna know what you had in mind
14:37.22HachimanI've been liking your ideas so far hur
14:37.58OluapWorkerIt's nothing relevant
14:38.04OluapWorkerJust do what you want with it
14:38.15HachimanHey
14:38.36HachimanI wanted to revise Durus so I could cooperate with you again
14:38.52HachimanNot take over
14:39.10OluapWorkerIt's your fiction, I'm not going to make changes to it
14:39.38ImpyDroidJust kiss already
14:39.49HachimanI gave the Rift to you, I just wanted to revise Durus and cooperate with you because I liked your idea
14:39.53OluapWorkerWe already do taht daily
14:40.31OluapWorkerYou want to use his race so I have no use for the whole Rift anymore
14:40.37OluapWorkerIt's yours again
14:40.50HachimanWell what did you wanna do with the Rift?
14:43.38OluapWorkerIt was nothing important
14:43.54HachimanWell it is because I want to know about it
14:44.19HachimanI was going to keep Durus and co loyal to your idea because I liked it
14:45.21OluapWorkerI already said what the idea was, there is nothing to add
14:48.29HachimanI'm not taking the Rift back
14:48.31HachimanIt's yours hur
14:49.15OluapWorkerIt's going to stay unused then
14:49.25HachimanI don't see why you're handing it back
14:49.34HachimanYou wanted to use it, I said yes
14:50.03ImpyDroidThat's some epic passive/aggressive mortal kombat right here
14:50.08OluapWorkerImagine if i gave you Sprak Island but kept control of its inhabiants
14:50.12OluapWorkerThis is the same scenario
14:51.17HachimanWell if you wanna have the inhabitants you should have just said hur
14:51.28HachimanI mean I am fine letting you have them
14:52.08OluapWorkerAnd then you can't work on them like you want
14:52.30HachimanI have enough to work on already, too much even
14:53.46HachimanI'm fine letting you have Durus and his folks honestly
14:57.42OluapWorkerIf you say so
14:57.53OluapWorkerBut now I feel like I'm not going to meet your standards
14:58.42HachimanI wouldn't worry about that
14:59.13HachimanJust have fun with it
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15:58.36GhelaeHello.
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16:07.54Wormy_This man is a like a modern Timothy Leary, Terence Mcknenna type https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClYb9NpXnRemxYoWbcYANsA
16:08.09Wormy_Talks about psychonautic experience but in much wider context
16:08.43Wormy_than drug induced ones
16:09.22Wormy_Although some of his videos become a bit too blabbery for me
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16:10.15Wormy_He did a good one for NASA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTccWT2YOC8
16:13.50Wormy_Also "Proudly promoted by Toyota"
16:13.54Wormy_lol
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16:32.15Wormy_"Meanwhile, heartbroken Directioners can finally rest easy thanks to Professor Stephen Hawking. The famous astrophysicist has revealed that in a parallel universe Zayn Malik hasn't quit One Direction and all is well."
16:32.27Wormy_XD
16:40.37AndroImpyHachiman: Where will Crux's artifact section take place?
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16:45.09dino82_helloz!!!!!!!!!!1
16:45.11dino82_how is all doing
16:46.56Wormy_Hi
16:47.07OluapWorkerHello
16:47.15AndroImpyI am a little dead due to the recent breakup but otherwise finr
16:47.38AndroImpyCurrently brainstorming
16:53.10dino82_@Impeiros: Oh auch, good luck with that,
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17:05.43ImperiosHi
17:07.05OluapWorkerblarg
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17:33.03Wormy_There's some disc shaped clouds
17:33.12Wormy_Not lenticular, just the angle they are at
17:36.22Comrade_VinnyNew ship! http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e7/Veliktor-Class_Hyper_Dreadnought.png/revision/latest?cb=20150430172427
17:39.41Wormy_nice
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18:04.40TekDroidOh my
18:05.35OluapWorkerHachiman Imperios Wormy_ Technobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Dark_Powers_United have a short but important thing
18:18.32ImperiosCorruptus falls, everyone dies:
18:20.02OluapWorkerhur
18:20.56OluapWorkerThe main point of this subarc is to show using entropic energy as a weapon is never a good idea because no matter how distant you are from the Corruptus, Shu will get to you eventually
18:23.28ImperiosYeah I got that
18:32.17Hachiman"Is a blowjob from a Muppet the same as a handjob?"
18:32.18ImperiosHow is the robot bear from FNaF called?
18:32.33HachimanFreddy Fazbear
18:33.13TekDroidI believe that's the name of their wiki.
18:33.40HachimanFreddy Fazbear is the name of the robotic bear
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18:36.31Wormy_returns and has a read
18:37.18HachimanOluapWorker: "Is a blowjob from a Muppet the same as a handjob?"
18:37.35HachimanAlso very good work on that section, good to see the Claw getting their comeuppance
18:37.42HachimanNo wait
18:37.48HachimanGetting what they deserve I mean hur
18:37.51OluapWorkercomeuppance
18:38.09OluapWorkerI only know that as a Chris-Chan euphemism for jizz
18:38.29HachimanOh wow hur
18:38.42OluapWorkerI'm serious, explain dis
18:39.16HachimanComeuppance = revenge or karma in one's favour
18:39.43OluapWorkerRight
18:42.15Wormy_I enjoyed the section
18:42.36OluapWorkerNext section will have both demon soldiers and Loron to kill
18:45.46ImperiosHachiman: BTW where will the Crux artifact section take place
18:45.47Imperios?
18:46.08HachimanNot sure
18:46.24HachimanMaybe the Sea of Sand, in either Khaepsha-ultan or Drifting Tribe territory
18:47.19ImperiosRite
18:47.28Jepardihttp://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aB3NVnx_460s.jpg
18:47.38HachimanCould have it be in Chin-Chaac if that is what you were wondering hur
18:49.35ImperiosWell it could but that's not the reason I was asking
18:49.53ImperiosI thought of setting Alar-xashan's artifact story in Alhassal
18:50.07OluapWorkerMOST MYSTERIOUS CITY -> is featured in the next story
18:50.11OluapWorkerjarring dat
18:50.36ImperiosTrue
18:50.42Technobliteratorso now Loron and Claw are stronger
18:50.58ImperiosSo I was checking so that teams would not intersect
18:51.34OluapWorkerThey combined forces
18:51.45OluapWorkerSo they're by extension stronger hur
18:55.23ImperiosI actually thought of making another Alhassan human character and that's where I could introduce him
18:56.46HachimanWe need to introduce Imperial characters beyond Inquisitors
18:56.53OluapWorkerBut would this character fit the whole scenario?
18:57.04OluapWorkerRemember the Crux team is made nearly all of immortal types
18:57.30ImperiosHe'll be in the AX team, and won't play a large role
18:58.50OluapWorkerAre you doing the two artifacts in a single section?
18:59.27HachimanNot by what the layout says
19:00.06OluapWorkerWell Xho made the layout after Imp left iirc
19:00.31OluapWorkerBut from what I'm getting by his tone the two artifacts will be recovered together
19:01.42ImperiosNot necessarily, they will probably be in different places
19:02.06ImperiosActually wait, will recovering all artifacts be so short as 1 section per artifact?
19:03.44HachimanAppears so
19:04.04ImperiosDamn
19:04.10ImperiosWill require a change of plans then
19:05.35Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11060998_1603080209909048_1868035778893674612_n.jpg?oh=819c8bef3cbf4fc66f43388e950ff04e&oe=55CB24D2
19:05.37OluapWorkerIt's one section per artifact
19:05.59OluapWorker10 sections, 5 teams, each gets 2
19:06.51OluapWorkerAnd they're not necessarily short. the Chalice rp was very long and it was a single section
19:07.23OluapWorkerBut you should preferably not drag the story on
19:08.03ImperiosAlright
19:08.18ImperiosDogerape
19:09.17OluapWorkerKerberos - wats dis bout doge rape
19:09.38OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kerberos speaking of which here's the remade kerberos
19:09.41OluapWorkerwhere the hell is Xho
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19:10.44Wormy_http://pretty52.com/articles/things-all-dog-owners-can-relate-to
19:12.32Wormy_I resonate with all
19:15.17OluapWorkerAs a former dog owner I can confirm nearly all of these except the poo bags and pictures because I don't take pictures
19:15.27drom_Wormy_: I can really confirm it as well.
19:15.28OluapWorkerI can also confirm most of these also apply to cats hur
19:15.43Wormy_lol
19:15.53drom_With the little exception that I was actually a little kid and we had an outdoor kennel for our dog.
19:15.55OluapWorkerSome of these gifs are pure sugar
19:16.03Wormy_As for me, I always have poo bags on me even when I stay elsewhere from home
19:17.04drom_I'm pretty sure that I'll get a dog whenever I get the chance.
19:17.36drom_Thinking of a Husky, Corgi or a German Shepard.
19:17.43Wormy_My dogs also don't like it when I stay in bed, they bark and jump on me in a mighty effort to get me up faster to walk them
19:19.14Wormy_And I have woken up with them licking my mouth
19:21.01OluapWorkerkiss kiss
19:21.47drom_Our dog was always obeyent, every morning he would wake up my mother by putting his paws on her side of the bed. He refused putting away his paws until my mother got up.
19:22.27drom_Pretty much similar to how we wake up each other by shaking. Except he couldn't shake.
19:22.28Wormy_cute
19:22.30OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/an/1427480800631.webm Radeons invent the wheel
19:23.10Wormy_Right one is dominant
19:23.20OluapWorkerfuck brb
19:24.23Wormy_Hachiman:  Google's Quantum machine learning computer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMdHDHEuOUE
19:24.23drom_Wormy_: You mean the stubborn one, right? It never lets itself down.
19:24.30Wormy_yeah
19:24.53drom_"Welcome to Neckbear Waystation Eight"
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19:25.43OluapWorker_Ok back
19:25.51OluapWorker_But holy shit that webm made me lose my shit
19:27.18drom_iirc there is another variant of it, but only a hamster on a vertical wheel
19:28.48drom_Imperios: Remember how we dicussed about Nomatari being a race of space rodents? I think they are more like kangroo rodents.
19:29.01ImpyDroidHuh
19:30.47drom_Rodent-like head, canine body, humanoid arms and kangroo legs (long and strong) and tail.
19:33.35drom_contiunes talking in an imcomprehendible manner
19:39.37ImperiosI just realised there was a  girl who wanted to friend me on VK for ages
19:39.45Imperios*is
19:40.21OluapWorker_I know a girl who wants you and she's called Fog War section you need to write
19:41.03ImperiosAlright
19:41.10ImperiosShe's also Buryat i.e Russian Mongolian
19:45.57ImperiosOluapWorker Hachiman: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5r4qoQ8FsV-cXl0Mk1feE94dlE/view?usp=sharing BTW that's the Alhassal guy I wanted to introduce
19:47.03ImperiosBasically a tinker or alchemist who creates grenades and other explosives
19:48.41OluapWorker_I spot an allah and an akbar
19:49.15OluapWorker_>allah akbar >explosives
19:49.24ImperiosHur
19:49.26OluapWorker_Suicide bomb the Shiarchon to death
19:49.37ImperiosWell technically I called him after an Indian emperor whose name was Akbar
19:49.41Imperios*the
19:51.33Tek0516Have Akbar become a naval commander, then have him get lured into a trap. :P
19:52.32ImperiosThe full label on the right reads "Avicenna + Akbar + ALLAHU AKBAR"
19:52.39Imperios*Avicenna + Alladin
19:54.29Wormy_Ghelae:  I was watching the Interstellar black hole ending scene on youtube, and someone commented "this is what its like to smoke DMT", so now I'm thinking, "whats it like to smoke DMT in a black hole"  O_o
19:55.26OluapWorker_You get double the dose obviously
19:55.32Tek0516O.o
19:56.37GhelaeHaving neither experienced smoking DMT nor being in a black hole, I can't even imagine.
19:57.14Tek0516Are you sure about the second one? :P
19:59.18ImperiosHachiman Technobliterator OluapWorker_: Do you think I should make Alhassal's page the subpage of the Empire's one?
19:59.32ImperiosAnd, to Hachi, do you think you should do the same with Mannazia
19:59.53OluapWorker_Considering Saphronia is a subpage, it's logical for it to be a subpage
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20:07.24ImperiosHm
20:07.38TekDroidHello
20:07.44MonetHello
20:07.49ImperiosWhat technology level do you think would fit Alhassal?
20:07.50ImperiosHi Monet
20:08.06OluapWorker_You should know that of all people
20:08.51ImperiosWell I am not sure how to call that
20:09.26ImperiosIt's higher than medieval, but not exactly industrial/steampunk or anything like that
20:09.59OluapWorker_You know my stance on technology in the fantasyverse
20:10.08MonetEnlightenemnt?
20:10.32GhelaeOr Renaissance.
20:10.33ImperiosMostly somewhere inbetween the Abbasid Caliphate (medieval but advanced) and the Mughal Empire (Renaissance but relatively stagnating)
20:10.56ImperiosEnlightenment could work, Renaissance... not sure if using a French word would fit a nation of Arab-Persian-Indian analogues
20:11.20ImperiosThing is the Middle East evolved differently, sort of
20:11.38HachimanIf you think Mannazia should be a subpage sure
20:12.30ImperiosIn Europe it was more or less: No society -> Antiquity -> Medieval feudalism and regression -> Renaissance -> Industrial -> Now
20:12.31OluapWorker_Either make them all subpages or none at all
20:12.46MonetSince "Renaissance" meant "rebirth" or "revival", it didn't quite firt for me unless Alhassal ever had a dark age.
20:13.36GhelaeEnlightenment would work better in that case.
20:13.37ImperiosWith the Middle East it's Antiquity -> ALLAHU AKBAR and Enlightenment -> Stagnation -> Colonisation -> ALLAHU AKBAR
20:14.02MonetThe GOlden Age of Islamic Science
20:14.15OluapWorker_So they went from antiquity to explosions
20:14.16OluapWorker_noice
20:14.22GhelaeI think the general term for the early post-Medieval era is "early modern", and that doesn't fit.
20:14.54OluapWorker_Anything higher than medieval is ngh-territory for me
20:15.12ImperiosOluapWorker_: Well less explosions and more Arab zerg rush, but yeah essentially yes
20:15.28ImperiosWouldn't be surprised if bombs were invented during that period though
20:15.36Wormy_I'd say up until the age that alchemy and natural philosophy were part of the same study
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20:16.01CyrannianHello
20:16.02Wormy_hi
20:16.03HachimanHai Cyr
20:16.05OluapWorker_~dropkick Cyrannian
20:16.06infobotACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua
20:16.20HachimanI do not see why you are so opposed to technology in the Fantasyverse
20:16.26HachimanI mean I can understand the issue with guns
20:16.36Wormy_So up until 17th century
20:16.40ImperiosWell Alhassal is still Medieval
20:16.52OluapWorker_If you add technology to the fantasyverse, it becomes a second fictionverse
20:17.13OluapWorker_I'm part of the setting because it's high fantasy medieval dragons and knights and swords and magic
20:17.31MonetThe tech difference between Antiquity and the Medieval era is a little hard to describe. Sure there were innovations ancient societies didn't have, but vice versa can also be true.
20:17.32ImperiosIt's just that it's based on medieval Arabia and Persia i.e more advanced
20:17.40Cyrannian~shatter OluapWorker_
20:17.40infobotACTION dips OluapWorker_ into liquid hydrogen and then hurls the OluapWorker_sicle to the floor.
20:17.46ImperiosMonet: Greeks had that cool clockpunk astronomical device
20:17.51OluapWorker_That's a new one
20:18.09Imperioshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism Steampunk as fuck
20:18.13Wormy_Perhaps keep things up until Medieval and then anything more advanced is really magitek
20:18.15HachimanAntikythera Mechanism
20:18.24OluapWorker_antikike
20:18.44HachimanWell considering we have a whole range of scifi elements in the Fictionverse
20:18.54HachimanI do not see why we cannot have a range of fantasy elements in the Fantasyverse
20:19.14ImperiosAntikike
20:19.16HachimanMagitech for example, like with the Sohet
20:19.18OluapWorker_That is how I see it
20:19.20ImperiosHave you spent too much time on /pol/ hur
20:19.34ImperiosPersonally I do not like too much magic OR too much technology
20:19.38OluapWorker_<PROTECTED>
20:19.46Wormy_Keep in mind the Sci-fiverse is less centralised, and its easuer not to get in each other's way with themes.
20:19.53ImperiosBecause either way it makes the story too simple so everything becomes implausible and just wacky
20:20.12OluapWorker_A blend of both is what we have now and is the way I prefer
20:20.12ImperiosEspecially when the two are together, in this case almost everything can be explained with "a wizard did it"
20:20.18HachimanYou know what makes everything implausible and wacky in a negative way
20:20.19HachimanGNOMES
20:20.28OluapWorker_Fuck off
20:20.30ImperiosGNOME PUNTING
20:20.43ImperiosWho were you referring to?
20:20.47OluapWorker_Hachi
20:20.59HachimanGNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEEESSS
20:21.13OluapWorker_The gnome hate joke has gone stale and is annoying by now
20:21.21HachimanYou think it is a joke
20:21.26HachimanI genuinely hate gnomes
20:21.49OluapWorker_I don't care if you think all gnomes are DnD gnomes
20:21.52OluapWorker_You're still annoying
20:21.57Hachiman;-;
20:22.33ImperiosThat's what I do not like in GW2
20:23.02ImperiosAs much as I like the asura, the fact that half of the story involved their magitech devices which do everything is annoying
20:23.10ImperiosIt literally runs on plot convenience
20:23.20OluapWorker_That's how you determine a good writer from a bad one
20:23.37OluapWorker_A good writer ie most people here will not rely on "majik deed eet"
20:23.50Cyrannianhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11073071_10152547888586706_8814614997914014338_n.jpg?oh=277d4f6cc24b139c3a17d6bbdd71b78e&oe=55A75670 - Look a funny picture of dogs
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20:24.00HachimanFucking cunt internet
20:24.10OluapWorker_You're a funny picture of a dog
20:24.16OluapWorker_sprays water on Cyrannian
20:24.33Cyrannianmelts
20:24.46OluapWorker_Ew
20:24.52OluapWorker_raptor goo
20:28.02ImperiosThen again even the Middle Ages had some wacky tech
20:28.06Imperioshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Jazari This guy for example
20:28.33Imperios>al-Jazari invented a hand washing automaton incorporating a flush mechanism now used in modern flush toilets. It features a female humanoid automaton standing by a basin filled with water. When the user pulls the lever, the water drains and the female automaton refills the basin.
20:28.47Imperios>One of al-Jazari's humanoid automata was a waitress that could serve water, tea or drinks. The drink was stored in a tank with a reservoir from where the drink drips into a bucket and, after seven minutes, into a cup, after which the waitress appears out of an automatic door serving the drink.[36]
20:28.49ImperiosHe made robot maids
20:28.51ImperiosRobot
20:28.51Imperiosmaids
20:29.56OluapWorker_All I want is for the balance not be ridden with OP tech when it's not meant to be that way
20:29.59ImperiosTrue
20:30.06OluapWorker_My stance is as clear as the sky
20:30.35CyrannianWhat's this about, anyway?
20:30.38Technobliteratorsurely you can just have limited Magitek at most
20:30.50OluapWorker_Fantasyverse technology
20:30.51TechnobliteratorI dunno something to do with the Fantasyverse having technology of any sort
20:30.57Wormy_wild chimps cross the road safely by looking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Q0pWSeeZc
20:31.31OluapWorker_I'm fine with magitek but I don't believe it should be abundant
20:31.50OluapWorker_Otherwise it'll be just a proxy for OP stuff
20:32.00CyrannianI don't really keep up to date with the fantasyverse though I suppose the level of higher technology should be limited so that the themes of the universe are constant.
20:32.17OluapWorker_And you're a bad person for that
20:32.28OluapWorker_If you're not gonna use Marmor at least give it to me hur
20:32.41TechnobliteratorI don't think I even made anything in the Fantasuverse
20:32.43Technobliterator: |
20:32.52HachimanLoron
20:32.57TechnobliteratorExcept those
20:33.01OluapWorker_Sefarina
20:33.06Technobliteratorwho?
20:33.09Technobliteratoroh
20:33.18Technobliteratorsomeone else can have her
20:33.31CyrannianI don't really become involved in the Fantasyverse because it's a bit too centralised for my liking.
20:33.40OluapWorker_Plus some other fiction you never developed
20:33.56Technobliteratoroh, Lak'rajah
20:33.57Technobliteratorhe was fun
20:34.08OluapWorker_He was a fantasy Sollow
20:34.28OluapWorker_And the Fantasyverse is centralized because it only has 3 active users
20:35.02Technobliteratoreh
20:35.10TechnobliteratorI don't remember him being like Sollow
20:35.20OluapWorker_He was annoying as fuck
20:35.21ImperiosHe was an annoying bastard
20:36.02TechnobliteratorNot in the way that Sollow was
20:36.08Wormy_"Messenger crashed into Mercury's surface at over 14,000 kilometres an hour, creating a crater 16 kilometres across."  http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27453-nasas-messenger-probe-crashes-into-mercury-making-giant-crater.html#.VUKSACFVhBc
20:36.15OluapWorker_Doesn't make him any less annoying
20:36.20OluapWorker_I found him groan-worthy
20:36.31TechnobliteratorI could probably rework him into someone more goofy than annoying
20:37.02OluapWorker_Wormy_: my message to you is ALLAH AKBAR
20:37.17Wormy_May the natives of Mercury think we have not declared interplanetary war.
20:37.19Wormy_lol
20:37.31CyrannianI don't mean to say that a centralised universe is a bad thing, it just means that it is more difficult to maneuver your fiction in it when so many things have already been fixed in place.
20:37.56HachimanI believe you are underestimating how big a continent is
20:37.59OluapWorker_It's a smaller setting, it's kinda inevitable
20:38.22OluapWorker_And yes we have a lot of empty space
20:38.36OluapWorker_In fact there is nearly a whole empty continent
20:39.04OluapWorker_Koldenwelt is really as big as we need it to be
20:39.34TechnobliteratorI'm not involved in the Fantasyverse because, well, I'm barely involved with the Fictionverse as it is
20:39.53Wormy_I agree with Cyrannian, but it is not the size of the coninent that matters.  The stories seem a lot more centralised  while we were all anarchists in the sci-universe trying to get as much as themes as early as possible
20:40.11TechnobliteratorI don't do anything except the Loron anymore, because anything else for me is just not fun
20:40.34ImperiosWell, Cyrannian, many regions are stioll empty
20:41.00OluapWorker_That was already said dumbo
20:41.28TechnobliteratorBefore it was just about writing fun stories, now it seems like you have to please everyone and you can't do anything without stupid drama
20:41.48TechnobliteratorI just don't have the energy that I used to have
20:44.14CyrannianI didn't mean the size of the world, just that there are certain aspects of the universe that are concrete and absolute while the scifiverse is more fluid. Though I'm not criticising the fantasyverse and the level of interconnectivity makes it more manageable than the Fiction Universe.
20:45.05OluapWorker_I would just like more people involved
20:45.12OluapWorker_It's lonely with just 3 users
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20:47.06Wormy_Cyrannian, Monet:  I wonder if the USS Vengeance is based on Star Trek's non-canon novels http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dreadnought_class   http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Dreadnought_class
20:47.36ExternalI was reading the IRC moments. They're funny.
20:47.50drom_Hello
20:48.11ExternalHey.
20:48.32CyrannianWormy_: It kinda reminded me of a more angular Odyssey-class from STO
20:49.27Wormy_if I'm right though it hints that the Dreadnought class also exists in the prime timeline, though not officially
20:49.36MonetI agree with Abrams- for me it definitely has the "Enterprise's ugly brother" feel.
20:50.31MonetAlthough those giant phase cannons feel exotic to me.
20:50.53MonetThe Holy SHit quotient was palpable.
20:51.13MonetOh wait they were torpedo launchers
20:51.33MonetFree-aiming torpedo launchers...okay now I'm worried.
20:52.23Wormy_I still think a 24th century ship would pwn it.  Some fans were trying to make it out it was the most advanced Fed ship ever
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20:53.18Wormy_Though considering some 23rd century vessels were still in service, it might point to that one being in service and refitted
20:53.21MonetWell it is a purpose-built battleship
20:53.32Technobliteratorhi Ghel
20:53.41GhelHello.
20:53.41ExternalAre we talking about Star Trek?
20:53.45Wormy_No way could it beat the USS Defiant
20:53.48MonetExternal: Yes
20:54.07MonetWormy: The Defiant could probably outmaneuaver its guns
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20:54.38MonetBut I do't really see the Defiant's defenses withstanding a sustained barrage - something the Vengeance looks designed ot excel at
20:54.45Wormy_I think 24th century ships had much more power output to shields, phasers and warp drive
20:55.09CyrannianI saw somewhere that the Alternate Reality Federation is more advanced than the Prime Reality Federation due to scans taken from the Narada in the opening scene of the 1st movie being used to augment technology, which is why everything looks more advanced.
20:55.14ExternalNot my field of expertise. I don't even watch Star Trek.
20:55.23MonetIt's a tougher ship sure, but its reactor and geenrators are still quite small compared to the generators of a Galaxy-class
20:55.33Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:League_Of_Patrons#Heretica
20:55.57Wormy_Yeah a galay class would definately win.  Though a 24th century refit Vengeance might be top notch
20:56.08MonetCyrannian: Basically Cochrane and his followers got a jump-start using reverse-engineered Vulcan tech yeah.
20:56.17Wormy_Just as there were 24th centur Excelsior variants
20:56.40MonetWormy_: It could be fairly equal. There are battleships today that have been in service since the 60s
20:56.55CyrannianI mean the Abramsverse, not the mirror universe
20:58.01Cyrannianhttp://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alternate_reality#Background_information - Ah yes, at the end of that section
20:58.05Wormy_I don't believe this size comparison at all, but it is fan-made http://oi41.tinypic.com/20p4twx.jpg
20:58.17ExternalAeo: How does the Aeoneonatrix run itself so well if the citizens are sex addicts?
20:58.31ExternalJust realized that at school.
20:58.43MonetWormy_: Well Scotty himself did say that the Vengenace was twice the size of the Enterprise.
20:59.11Technobliteratoroh
20:59.16TechnobliteratorMemory Alpha has a good skin
20:59.19MonetIf anything, I think that chart overestimates the size of the original Enterprise.
20:59.19AeoExternal: It depends on how you define an addict. They're not so far gone they can't get work done. Also, because they can have sex in public, they can multitask more easily in that respect.
20:59.22Technobliteratorawful top navigation, but good skin
21:00.15Wormy_For some reason I never stay logged in there.
21:00.33TechnobliteratorThat's because they don't have wikia.com in the url
21:00.43MonetBut when it comes to warships, the basis of a bigger ship is an increased capacity to stick guns on.
21:00.50Wormy_i still log into the same account though
21:01.10Cyrannianhttp://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dreadnought_class#General_overview - Some info about the size
21:01.27Wormy_I heard they are one of those rare wiki's with their own url
21:01.35MonetThere is stil lthe battle of maneuverability vs firepower, sure. But there's also the factors of tracking speed and distance form the oponent
21:01.37TechnobliteratorThe other one is WoWWiki
21:01.48TechnobliteratorI'm surprised Wikia haven't closed WoWWiki down completely, honestly
21:02.18MonetI heard somewhere that during the Falklands, British vessels won in part due to a range advantage their warships had.
21:02.53MonetBritish shells could hit at a range Argentinian vessels couldn't reach
21:04.35ImperiosWoWWiki is useless
21:05.31TechnobliteratorWowpedia makes it redundant
21:05.55Wormy_Monet:  Enterprise D can unleash a lot of torpedo spam too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_XbWq49vUM
21:09.17Wormy_Monet:  Also, this is my answer to Halo fans who think Covenant is superior because glassing.  Well *this* is more impressive than superficial glassing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU4lYIuvg58
21:10.05Wormy_Small fleet warps in at a distance > fires a few antimatter torpedoes > 30% of the planetary crust annihilated
21:11.17Wormy_And to think Trek ships must withstand at the least same amnount with shields
21:11.57Wormy_Alright I'm just fan-whoring now
21:12.02MonetIt is likely ebcause we see that kind of damage less in Star Trek
21:12.25MonetIn Halo we are told that Glassing is standard military procedure for the Covenant.
21:12.33Wormy_agreed
21:14.18MonetIt's one of the issues with seeing things more rarely in visual media.
21:14.33MonetIt becomes assumed that it is simply less likely to be true.
21:15.13Wormy_Babylon 5 has a really cool orbital bombardment scenem but with using mass drivers and rocks.  A lower tech solution but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjIlqrAfbbg
21:15.31MonetBut also there's the matter that both are methods of entertainment.
21:15.39ImperiosHmmmm
21:15.48ImperiosOh wait OW left already
21:15.59MonetIn reality glassing might be less convenient or practical than what either franchise makes out.
21:17.05MonetI myself have always wondered how a single Imperial Star Destroyer can melt a planet's crust with only turbolasers. On its own it simply doesn't have the kind of coverage to hit everywhere at once.
21:17.41MonetIt also puts into question how much energy the reactor is expending - probably more than the total energy output of every power station on Earth.
21:18.40Wormy_I think it could if it injected enough energy in at once, a ridiculous amount like several terratons equal to a collision with the largest asteroids
21:19.30Wormy_In Legends, it is claimed that they have terraton output, I've even seen peta-tonne yields thrown about by Warsies but can't confirm
21:20.27Wormy_But that is more akin to a kinetic impact rather than slowly melting rock
21:20.40ImperiosHachiman: So I face a bit of a problem with Alhassal now
21:20.58Cyrannianhttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Base_Delta_Zero/Canon - I like how this is canon again
21:20.59MonetThat and lasers are measured in watts, not tonnes of TNT
21:21.20HachimanImperios: That is?
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21:22.02Wormy_The DCP bombards the crust mostly for show
21:22.15Wormy_Using relativistic slugs
21:22.24ImperiosBecause of the fact that most Imperial nations other than them were described as cosmopolitan and overall nice, Alhassans are essentially left as the most jerkass-y Imperials hur
21:22.37HachimanAnd the problem is what hur
21:22.41ImperiosAnd that's a problem because they are not supposed to be outright evil
21:22.53HachimanWell then do not make them outright evil
21:22.54ExternalMonet: My Imperium glasses planets to destroy the life on it, but the ships they use for it vary in power, and there are large numbers of them.
21:23.01MonetThe thing is the only impact in Earth's history to actually reach the mantle was a planetoid the size of *Mars*
21:23.04HachimanA lot of Middle Eastern nations take advantage of foreigners
21:23.58ImperiosProblem is if I make them too tolerant, the Empire's basic idea of "everyone hates us so we hate them back glory to Putin" will not work
21:24.03Imperios*basic concept
21:24.18Imperios...my English god it is terrible
21:24.32Wormy_Well anything between the size of Vesta and Ceres will do this http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bU1QPtOZQZU/hqdefault.jpg
21:24.34HachimanPerhaps on the face they are tolerant but the internal workings of their society oppresses nonhumans
21:24.35MonetNo asteroid to our knowledge has ever caused enough kinetic damage to penetrate the mohole barrier. To claim something can melt rock to the mantle means that said object is capable of melting several kilometres of rock.
21:24.57ImperiosThey don't really have anyone to oppress in their territory
21:25.40ImperiosStrangely I did not intend for the Empire to be *oppressive* against nonhumans, it's more similar to modern Russia; they feel the world despises them and are thus xenophobic and insular
21:25.42MonetYeah I suppoze an asteroid half the sizze of the UK will do a lot of damage.
21:25.52Wormy_That's the thing, any ships that can annihilate that much rock already under heat and pressure that short length of time must have ridiculous energy
21:26.28Wormy_Though both Base Delta Zero and the Tal'Shiar's strike didn't really look like glassing
21:26.38MonetOne question that came up for me when designing something with that much energy potential - why do you need that much?
21:26.44Wormy_In the same sense of the Covenant
21:26.56Wormy_DCP - to terrify
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21:27.24Wormy_The Covenant's glassing is stupid and impractical in the Star Wars or Star Trek universe
21:27.54Wormy_Given that factions in either can do a lot more damage
21:28.06MonetIt might be there's a point where energy output becomes excessive. Then again it's probably hard to measure when we don't have anything comparable ot a turbolaser in real life.
21:29.01Wormy_Then again, remember that it may be easier for Tier 4 and above civs to demonstrate such power for the heck of it with black holes, antimatter and hyperspatial power
21:29.10MonetI'm willing ot subscribe to the idea Base Delta Zero actually means "anihilate any population we know about", seeing as how unles something is a short drive away form a spaceport, it's not worth caring about.
21:29.20CyrannianTo be fair, glassing in Halo doesn't actually turn things to glass. http://www.halopedia.org/Glassing#Aftermath
21:29.48MonetCyrannian: I never assumed that.
21:30.12MonetThe term likely comes from the superheating effects of a plasma impact.
21:31.03MonetThere's a prevailing idea that if you hit a big piece sand with a hot enough laser, it will melt into glass.
21:31.05Wormy_Probably turns rocks into the upper right side of this chart http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Metamorphic_Facies.jpg
21:31.48Wormy_http://www.geologycafe.com/images/metamorphic_setting.jpg
21:31.53Wormy_better chart
21:32.08MonetThough admittedly I don't know if melting a desert into glass is actually possible even i ntheory
21:32.46Wormy_Probably amphibolite, greenschist and maybe granulites
21:33.05Monet"glassing" also happens to be catchy
21:34.14MonetI don't know how (probably al lthe films my course leader has us watch) I'm starting to get a better understanding of what elements in a work of fiction are probably and what elements are for spectacle or entertainment.
21:35.11MonetThe Covenant could probably kill a planet more thoroughly and with less effort by mass deployment of viral agents, but that's less spectacular.
21:35.22Cyrannianhttp://www.halopedia.org/Glassing#Orbital_bombardment - This describes glassing as being akin to meteorite impacts
21:36.04Wormy_The sand wouldn't melt into perfect glass, no.  The minerals would re-crystallise, and glass is not actually crystalline.
21:37.10MonetCyrannian: So in essence an energy-based version of this http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2004-06/rods-god
21:39.35Wormy_Actually I maybe wrong.  In depends on how much pressure that plasma would create
21:40.36Wormy_If it does, you'll end up with quartzites if a desert with lots of quartz sandstone was glassed
21:41.14Wormy_If not you'll get a somewhat glassy material called fulgerite
21:41.26Wormy_Which lightning can "fossilise"
21:42.15Wormy_http://epod.usra.edu/.a/6a0105371bb32c970b01348873eb86970c-pi
21:46.36Wormy_I suppose it depends how long glassing occurs
21:50.58MonetPerhaps.
21:51.53MonetBut like with Star Wars, you don't have to go far on a number of UNSC planets before civilisation becomes total wilderness
21:52.29MonetSome places like Reach and Earth are an exception I know
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21:53.08Wormy_I imagine many DCP planets are quite sparsely populated
21:53.13MonetSo there is a possibility that on these frontier worlds, glassing can potentially be impractical if all you're after is the eradication of the local human population.
21:53.21Monetwell, not impractical
21:53.25Monetexcessive
21:53.29Wormy_They have a large population but a wide coverage
21:54.06Wormy_Then again DCP populations centres outside homeworlds maybe densest in engineered space habitats
21:54.42Wormy_brb
21:55.41MonetIn these kinds of cases, glassing is only really worthwhile for shock and awe.
21:55.58MonetYou're better off just targeting the population centres
21:56.28MonetHit all the local spaceports and there's a good chance the colony crumbes to nothing
21:56.42Monetcrumbles*
21:56.57ExternalCharles, why was your name "Charles_Air"?
21:57.06MonetAnd even if it does survive, it's not going to have much of a resistance beyond gurerella fighters
21:57.16Charles_ClassThough capturing all of that infrastructure intact is likely going to be much more valuable from a military standpoint.
21:57.35Charles_ClassExternal_fic : Refers to the computer I'm using.
21:57.44External_ficOh.
21:58.12MonetCharles_Class: True but in the Covenant's case, unles a planet has a Forerunner relic on it, there's a 98% chance it will be glassed.
21:58.30MonetTHey're after simple eradication.
21:58.51Charles_ClassSounds like a very subtle foreign policy. ^.^
21:59.07Monetlol
21:59.26External_ficMonet: Sounds like what I usually do in my spore games..sadly..I have barely any T1-3 planets near me. :/
21:59.47MonetCovenant having a foreign policy beyond "find precursor stuff" and "blow up heretic humans", good one lol
21:59.49External_ficI just burn the damned planet if it isn't any use to me.
22:00.04MonetBut this is probably one of the reasons WHY they eventually fell apart
22:00.30MonetThe whole faction was built on worshipping Precursor relics and waging war against humanity
22:01.58External_ficMonet: The Forerunners weren't precursors, though. In a sense, if the Forerunners warred against the Precursors (which they did), then the Covenant should hate the Precursors.
22:02.06MonetSeriously I actually wonder if their questionable tactics are contributors ot their downfall.
22:02.24External_ficBecause the Forerunners waged war against humans, thus, Covenant hate humanity.
22:02.37Monet*ancient* humans
22:03.04HachimanThe Covenant knew nothing about the existence of the Precursors and they were very heavily misguided by the findings of Forerunner artefacts
22:03.10External_ficYes, but still humans
22:03.45MonetAs far as I can tell, the UNSC was largely unaware that Yuri Gagarin wasn't the first human in space.
22:05.11HachimanThe Forerunners had selected humanity as the inheritors of their legacy, which the Prophets *knew* keep in mind and proceeded to cover up from public notice, and instigated the war to exterminate humanity over ideological differences and a series of unfortunate, and hostile, misunderstandings
22:05.47External_ficHachiman: Man, the covenant were more jealous than I thought...
22:06.15HachimanThe most significant factor which contributed to the Covenant's foundation and war against mankind was a translation error on their part from Forerunner text
22:06.54MonetI still consider Forerunners a precursor race because they widely-known modern human civilization.
22:07.11Monetthey predate wiel-known human*
22:07.45HachimanI cannot remember how precisely it went but they had apparently mistranslated the word "Reclaimer" - humanity - to mean something else which irked them into their conflict and when the Prophets later discovered their fundamental mistake they continued anyway out of egocentrism and the denial of the truth
22:08.09HachimanAnd yes the Forerunners are a precursor civilisation
22:08.17MonetSo basically because Religion.
22:08.21HachimanAye
22:08.54MonetDamn you 19th century scholars!
22:09.14HachimanAlthough granted not all Forerunners were satisfied with handing their legacy to humanity, as exampled by the events of Halo 4
22:09.43MonetWhich I don't have an Xbox to play but I'm guessing you mean the Ur Didact.
22:09.48HachimanYeah
22:09.57HachimanUr-Didact was a xenophobic warmongering asshole
22:10.20MonetBeing an ancient soldier bred for war does that t oyou lol
22:10.52Cyrannianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlQeLoTUoZE - It makes for a good movie
22:11.15HachimanIt does but it does not make for a good Halo story
22:12.12MonetWell we need some reason to shoot the Ur-Didact's soldiers.
22:12.27MonetMay as well make him an asshole. It's worked before.
22:12.47External_ficHachiman: Who incinerated half of all humans around New Pheonix, and every fucking person in that cityu.
22:12.59External_ficSo...an assholr.
22:13.04External_fic*asshole
22:13.08MonetSee? Instant villain just ad genocide.
22:13.40HachimanHonestly Halo 4 should have followed another protagonist with a separate storyline away from the Forerunners and such
22:13.55HachimanLike Thel' returning to Sangheilios
22:14.28MonetIt really doesn't help the perception that modern FPSs are all mindless shooters.
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22:14.36Monetthe way Halo 4 went
22:14.43Charles_Classtest
22:15.15HachimanI do not even know how the Storm Covenant faction could possibly be justified given that the Sangheili suffered discrimination from the Covenant in its latter era - this was what the entire Schism was about
22:15.46CyrannianI wasn't a massive fan of that either to be honest. Seemed like an excuse to add Covenant weapons to the game.
22:15.47MonetI mean the initial stages of the game involve shooting Covenant who don't realise (or don't care) that the war is over - including several Sanghelli.
22:18.13CyrannianThough I do think the leader of the post-war Covenant is one of the most interesting characters of the universe, being the first atheistic Sangheili that I know of, plus he has interesting motives for why he ignores the end of the war: http://www.halopedia.org/Jul_%27Mdama#Personality_and_motives
22:18.55MonetI admit that one issue with popular franchises is that sometimes (or maybe more often) despite the broad universe they've created, IPs stick to a small base of characters.
22:19.25MonetThe Halo trilogy was a good setup and we got some spinoffs, but maybe this was an omen of what Bunjie was becoming?
22:19.44MonetLook at what happened to Destiny for crying out loud!
22:20.24MonetMassive scope, rich history, none of which is important aside from "the darkness" - a reason ot kill something
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22:21.33External_ficBiology 101: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrXykvorybo&feature=youtu.be it's also nice music
22:21.37HachimanDestiny is barely even an RPG
22:21.59MonetIt's a shooter pretending to be Mass Effect.
22:23.07MonetI knwo Bungie tried to expand the Halo universe with stuff like Halo Legends.
22:23.24MonetBut let's face it, ODSTs are basically the SPARTAN Appreciation Society.
22:23.33Hachimanhur
22:25.30External_ficMonet: olol, a long-time friend of mine told me that ODSTs are wannabe spartans. I believe him.
22:25.42CyrannianHachiman: This looks interesting http://www.halopedia.org/Halo:_Hunters_in_the_Dark
22:26.58HachimanYeah it does look rather curious
22:29.24drom_Welp, remodelling the ears is one of the hardest things to do
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22:30.30ExternalStupid graphics card...
22:33.17Externalhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:IRC/Quotes#The_Hunger_Games:_Fictionverse_Edition <---how do you people do this
22:33.23ExternalI mean
22:33.25ExternalSeriously
22:34.43drom_External: http://brantsteele.net/hungergames/disclaimer.php
22:35.14ExternalNow that's cool.
22:35.29drom_Actually, I found it first and played few rounds with all Sporewiki users I could fit in.
22:36.19Externaldrom_:Will that ever happen again?
22:36.28External"Hunger Games Friday"
22:41.57Externaldrom_?
22:47.13CyrannianMight interest some people, there's a 70% discount on Star Wars games on Steam starting on May 4th.
22:47.29drom_I'm a bit busy for the moment mind you. http://i.imgur.com/i5CD7Pi.png
22:49.33Cyrannianhttp://store.steampowered.com/sub/25772/ - jebus, all these games for only €21
22:50.39drom_Cyrannian: Goddamn you for making me hard in tight pants.
22:51.59Charles_MurrayOut of those, I really recommend Republic Commando and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
22:52.29Charles_MurrayJedi Knight: Jedi Academy was my childhood. xD
22:52.48drom_Why not grab em all while you can save 27€?
22:53.06Charles_MurrayBecause some of those games are... Not the best.
22:54.37drom_Hmm Battlefront II was great too.
22:55.29Charles_MurrayThat too, but a huge part of the fun for me was Multiplayer
22:55.31drom_My Chilean-Swedish cousins used to play it 24/7 on their PS2 whenever they got the chance.
22:55.36Charles_MurrayThe servers have been taken down.
22:57.47drom_that republic commando too
22:57.59Charles_Murray^
22:58.44drom_This will do: http://i.imgur.com/arA81YP.png
23:00.18drom_Am I missing anything?
23:00.27drom_something*
23:01.03CyrannianEmpire at War is my favourite Star Wars game
23:01.14CyrannianEspecially with mods
23:03.34drom_There it goes
23:05.03ExternalI was looking at the IRC moment "Wormy's Final Form". That gives me a whole new reason to completely fear Wormy_.
23:05.10ExternalNgggh
23:06.59TechnobliteratorCyrannianEmpire at War is my favourite Star Wars game
23:07.02Technobliteratoroh god yes same here
23:07.10Technobliteratorsuch an underrated game ;_;
23:07.32Cyrannianaye, if you still play it check this site out: http://www.moddb.com/games/star-wars-empire-at-war-forces-of-corruption/mods
23:08.01TechnobliteratorI've heard the modding community is impressive
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23:08.03WoodPulpGreetings
23:08.07TechnobliteratorI wish they'd make a sequel
23:08.07Technobliteratorhi
23:08.38ExternalGreetings....who are you?
23:09.01WoodPulpI'm WoodPulp. I come here pretty infrequently
23:09.05Wormy_Who played Jedi Knights and the KOR games?
23:09.25Wormy_I've always been interested in them but I'm not sure if they're any good
23:09.33Wormy_hi
23:09.43drom_brb going to install battlefronts 2
23:10.11MonetWormy_: Jedi Knight was also my childhood
23:10.27ExternalNever seen you on Sporewiki. But anyways...who here as played Star Wars Battlefront 2
23:10.33ExternalI have.
23:10.35MonetKOR - Knights of the Old Republic?
23:10.39ExternalThen I lost my PSP. ;___;
23:11.12Wormy_I played all the Battlefront games
23:11.20Wormy_including the PSP ones
23:11.28CyrannianSo did I hur
23:11.29Wormy_Monet:  Yeah
23:11.44MonetI adored that series
23:11.55MonetFavourite character hmm...Atton Rand
23:11.58Wormy_Maybe I'll buy those games then hur
23:12.07TechnobliteratorI played Battlefront
23:12.13TechnobliteratorI'm super pumped for the reboot
23:12.16MonetCarth was good but Atton was way more witty
23:12.16Technobliterator:D
23:12.45MonetThere was also the whole "brainwashed to be a jedi killer"
23:13.02Cyrannianhttp://www.starwars7news.com/2015/04/star-wars-battlefront-producer-trailer-debunking-misconceptions.html - I'm excited for Battlefront too, here's some misconceptions about it debunked
23:13.05drom_Appearently you can still play online on SW:BF2 via "Gameranger"
23:13.08MonetIt seems both funny and scary that Atton's primary defense againsgt Jedi tricks was playing Pazaak in his head.
23:15.32TekDroid~test
23:15.32infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
23:15.35WoodPulpI only played battlefront once or twice on a friend's console
23:15.43TekDroid:O
23:16.40WoodPulpExternal, I've never seen you either. *suspicious look*
23:17.06ExternalWoodPulp: You don't know I am in a secret organization...
23:17.08ExternalFUK
23:17.16ExternalI MEAN I'M NOT DAMMIT
23:17.43WoodPulpFreudian slip much?
23:17.50External~gender
23:17.50infobotI'm sexless
23:17.56Externalolol
23:18.31ExternalWoodPulp: Actually, in real life I have that condition.
23:18.54WoodPulpWhat's infobot?
23:19.15ExternalIt's....I dunno actually.
23:19.18drom_A bot
23:19.44WoodPulpWhat does it do?
23:19.50WoodPulp~test
23:19.51infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
23:19.57WoodPulp~hello
23:19.57infobotHowdy Bub
23:20.02drom_A bot pretending to be woman, sometimes it doesn't. It's also hated by everybody but newcomers in #sporewiki.
23:21.25MonetExternal: Everyone is prone to Freudian slips.
23:22.46WoodPulp~info
23:22.56drom_Monet: Whatcha think of this? http://i.imgur.com/AY9nzJC.png
23:23.07WoodPulpSo, what's the point of infobot again?
23:23.16WoodPulpWhat is it?
23:23.24drom_I feel like I've to raise the mouth a bit
23:23.30TechnobliteratorMostly for logging the IRC channel
23:23.32ExternalMonet: No, I mean, I have a speech disorder, so my sentences stammer.
23:23.57WoodPulpdrom: what is that?
23:23.58MonetA Freudian Slip is something different
23:24.06Monetdrom_: I'd say the mouth is fine
23:24.17ExternalMonet: I thought it was a disorder.
23:24.45drom_External: I've a similar quirk, but it's a consequence of my genetic disorder. Most of the times whenever I try to speak, I get stuck on a word and trying to pronounce it.
23:24.55WoodPulpA freudian slip is when you say one thing, but you mean your mother.
23:24.59drom_Happens everytime for me when speaking English.
23:25.08MonetExternal: A freudian slip is a moment where subconsious thoughts unknowingly work their way into what you're saying
23:25.35drom_WoodPulp: A remodel of this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Nomatarian
23:25.38MonetFreudian slips often contain things we try to hide
23:25.46ExternalMonet: So, if you are thinking of a girl, what you are thinking slips into the sentence you say?
23:26.16MonetExternal: For example if she is good looking, you could end up saying "have a nice rack" instead of "have a nice day"
23:26.36WoodPulpSomething like that. That's a particularly embarassing example
23:26.53MonetFreudian slips can be quite embarrasing
23:27.53ExternalLike how you just said. Freudian slips must be the 1# cause of all dating rejections/dumps/
23:28.16MonetDunno about #1
23:28.59ExternalWell
23:29.01ExternalTop 10s.
23:29.29drom_It is however the #1 source of unanswered questions
23:30.18drom_People raise an eyebrow and look supiciously on you if you get slipped.
23:30.57Monet"One of my patients had a rather amusing Freudian slip: he was having dinner with his wife, and he meant to say "pass the salt", but instead he said "You've ruined my life, you blood-sucking shrew"." - Niles Crane
23:32.47drom_hur
23:36.39WoodPulpShe: 'What would you like—bread and butter, or cake?' He: 'Bed and butter.'
23:37.26Externalolol
23:37.32External~gender
23:37.32infobotI'm not sure
23:37.38ExternalWanna try that again.
23:38.03drom_To be fair, butter is a good impromptu lube due to it's fat contents.
23:38.12ExternalWhy do the veterans hate infobot, again drom_?
23:38.22ExternalIt makes a fun tool.
23:38.40WoodPulpdrom: did not need to know >_<
23:38.58drom_Sssch, this is #sporewiki
23:39.00ExternalNeither did I....
23:39.06drom_Everyday is a dirty day.
23:39.56Externaldrom_: Like a few days ago with the Aeoneonatrix? And sexuality?
23:40.32drom_Uh? N-no?
23:42.01drom_I usually find the Fantasyverse veterans posting inner jokes and some of them are usually related to mature-humor jokes.
23:42.09drom_Such as sexuality.
23:43.35WoodPulpI was on here one time during an...interesting discussion of bonobos
23:44.58drom_Sometimes we're talking about reproduction as part of a biology talk. Then derive to gentialias and reproduction organs.
23:46.08drom_An other possibility include: talk and resonating about a radical culture/religion which said organs have a role.
23:46.09MonetMost of us are men betwee 15 and 23. It's hard ot avoid.
23:46.53Monet"If you ask me, Frasier, your trepidation is well-founded. It is possible to move a relationship along too fast and ultimately marry too hastily. You could find a few years down the line that the person isn't really right for you, and then, what happens if you meet the right person? Someone who really excites you and makes you feel alive, but you can't act upon it because you're trapped in a stale, albeit comfortable Maris!" Oh dear L
23:47.05Monet(this was said by Niles)
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23:48.44ExternalTHIS SHTUPID INTERNET
23:50.24drom_Sometimes it is amausing to be a radical or a irrational thinker
23:51.41ExternalI lost connection when I said "I got a score of 100% on the psychopath test). Culd somone inform meh plese?
23:53.13drom_We got nothing from you since your last message at XX:43:36
23:53.38ExternalNo, I mean what happened.
23:54.34drom_I don't know. But this how we saw it on our end: http://i.imgur.com/CXpylGa.png
23:55.32drom_It's probably just a coincidence.
23:57.06ExternalAnyone remember this wiki: http://xhodocto.wikia.com/wiki/The_Xhodocto_Wiki ?
23:57.20ExternalLast time that was edited was in 2011.
23:57.25CyrannianJust so y'all know, a desire to prove that you are a psychopath by filling out a daft psychopath test on the internet pretty much confirms that you are not a psychopath.
23:58.17drom_External: Oh man, this is interesting.
23:58.50ExternalNo, I took one to see if I was. Also, SOMEONE put the psychopath test link on...somewhere between Friday and today.
23:58.53MonetI'm not so sure.
23:59.24TekDroideditAyrai'Shikua
23:59.24TekDroidedited by Xho  diff
23:59.24TekDroidSummary:To hell if they don't have a reproductive system.
23:59.29drom_I'm certain it was somewhere at Monday-Tuesday
23:59.29TekDroidXD
23:59.30MonetIf I recall correctly, psychopathy is essentially an inability to recieve emapthy.
23:59.41Monetor give empathy, yeah give.
23:59.45MonetYou can mock it though

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