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11:11.49GhelaeHello.
11:13.31OluapWorkerHi
12:59.34TechnobliteratorOluapWorker, I'm home now and will be free the rest of the day, other than personal obligation to go to the gym and eat anyway
12:59.48OluapWorkerguid
12:59.50OluapWorkergud even
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13:07.46JepardiHi
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13:27.54OluapWorkerHey Imp
13:27.58OluapWorkerI wanted to talk to you
13:39.52Comrade_VinnyAnybody good in science here?
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14:48.13ImperiosSo I was leaving a bus to go back home when ALL OF A SUDDEN a hailstorm began
14:48.31OluapWorkerbrr brr time
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15:37.35GhelaeHello.
15:37.45XhoHello
15:38.00OluapWorkerspu
15:38.07Xhou
15:39.09OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:D%27arcy_Blackharp have spooky
15:41.01XhoPelagrios - cannot win this wench                         0/10
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15:41.48GhelaeHello.
15:41.50XhoGood page though
15:41.57XhoI take it she's gonna appear in Wrath of Night then
15:42.00Cyrannianhai
15:42.14XhoOh right it says at the bottom of the page
15:42.16XhoHow dim of me
15:42.18XhoHi
15:42.23OluapWorkerYes, she's the guardian of Mortium's artifact
15:42.26OluapWorker~slap Cyrannian
15:42.26infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
15:42.53Cyrannian~explode OluapWorker
15:42.53infobotACTION blows up OluapWorker with bombs
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15:50.22Cyrannianoh dearie me, thunder and lightning
15:53.35Cyrannianhttp://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/01/13/allah-may-not-be-as-akbar-as-initially-thought-suggests-report/
15:55.53OluapWorkerdat cheeky article name
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15:58.01CyrannianHi
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16:08.54dromAh. There is nothing better than three days off.
16:09.22XhoHow about four
16:09.45dromIf I count the weekend, I got five.
16:09.57Tek0516Hello
16:10.02dromHey
16:10.17drom5 days of GTA5 alright
16:11.12TechnobliteratorOluapWorker, ok free the rest of the day now
16:12.42OluapWorkergud
16:13.52OluapWorkerGet on the pad nao
16:16.11Tek0516~test
16:16.11infobotwell, test is not funny
16:26.11Comrade_APR@Cyrannian: I ain't sure if this article is talking about Allah or Admiral Ackbar... :S
16:26.17Comrade_APR-_-
16:26.49OluapWorkerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTIk80uBPg why the hell doesn't the new Civ games have these
16:27.01OluapWorkerThose guys are solid gold
16:27.15OluapWorkerEspecially the military guy and the Elvis
16:38.15Xho"I am dismayed by what I see"
16:38.28XhoHow didn't a meme form from that
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16:45.56ImperiosXho: http://cs14108.vk.me/c540106/v540106129/510bb/xr8Oy9ObYyw.jpg
16:46.07Xhoelemlems
16:46.20OluapWorkerWhere's Heartmelon
16:46.56Imperios"“As such, \we’ve had to downgrade Allah from “Akbar” to “potentially Akbar”. If Allah wants his old title back, then he and his followers will have to earn it. We’ll conduct our study again next year, but we do warn that further downgrades could see Allah facing “not Akbar at all” levels”. "
16:46.57ImperiosOhgod
16:49.53OluapWorkerblah where's Hachi at
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16:55.49HachimanHai
16:56.04Technobliteratorspeak of the devil
16:56.11TechnobliteratorOluapWorkerblah where's Hachi at
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16:56.14TechnobliteratorHachimanHai
16:56.22Hachimanhur
16:56.28OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
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16:56.33Hachiman~cuddle OluapWorker
16:56.33infobotACTION grabs OluapWorker and cuddles until OluapWorker begs for mercy
16:56.38OluapWorkerc
16:56.47OluapWorkerHachiman Imperios: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1430288172264.jpg
16:57.12ImperiosKiduin Wrynn
16:57.21Hachimanolol
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17:08.19Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Sabotaging_a_New_Ally
17:08.28OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_War_of_Black_Fog/Part_2#Loron_Boss_Arguments before that
17:10.17Wormy_Ghel:  There's a lot more tech I can think of adding, but what do you think so far?
17:14.02GhelaeIt's looking okay, although I think we might need to discuss a few details that we don't currently seem to agree on.
17:15.05OluapWorkerHachiman: c
17:15.11GhelaeIncluding a few things that you've added that I didn't think to put in.
17:16.15GhelaeI have just had an idea: perhaps I could colour-code the tech tree to represent different tiers instead?
17:17.03Wormy_Yeah
17:17.09Wormy_I thought about that too
17:17.39HachimanNice, both sections were pretty cool
17:17.49HachimanKralgon Emperor was particularly awesome hur
17:17.55TechnobliteratorIf you guys color code it, it might be better to add the colors to the css
17:18.36Technobliteratorso you just need to do <span class="color"> instead of <span style="color:#00000"> w/e stuff
17:19.02Technobliteratorwhich I could do if you want
17:19.35GhelaeAs little code as possible would be nice. Are any colours already available to be used like that? We should only need about six.
17:19.58Technobliteratorhm I'm not sure any are added to the CSS
17:20.26Technobliteratoryou can add them in normally ofc but it may be convenient
17:20.40GhelaeSo would the code be <span class="red">text</span>?
17:21.02Technobliteratoryeah
17:21.04GhelaeA quick test shows that doesn't currently do anything, and red is a fairly obvious colour to put in the css.
17:21.26Technobliteratormhm
17:22.03TechnobliteratorI can add it so it works only on the tech page
17:22.21Technobliteratorwhich would mean if tier 1 was read
17:22.32Technobliterator<span class="tier1">text</span> would show as red
17:22.40Technobliteratorbut only on that page
17:23.04GhelaeThat would allow us the change the colour scheme whenever we feel like it... :P
17:23.41GhelaeBut no, I think having them available across the whole wiki could also come in useful.
17:26.10Wormy_brb
17:27.08OluapWorker"do you guys think skeletons are real?"           "Of course not. They're make believe, just like elves, gremlins, and Eskimos."
17:27.56XhoHeh
17:28.03XhoThat's a Simpsons quote
17:28.13XhoThough in the Simpsons it's 'vampires' instead of skeletons
17:29.15TechnobliteratorWell, I could add them across the wiki as well :o
17:29.34TechnobliteratorI think getting the colors cheme for this page for now would be best
17:30.21OluapWorkerSkeletons are far spookier than vampires
17:31.17XhoRight I need to get those Angry Moon teams sorted
17:32.23OluapWorkeryeh
17:32.39Xhohttps://titanpad.com/QNbnqfZlh3 get in dere den
17:34.14XhoHachiman Imperios: u 2 get dis sorted
17:35.29GhelaeTechnobliterator: I'm currently going for red, orange, green and blue. Cyan and maybe some other light colour would also work well if we need more.
17:35.38Technobliteratoralright
17:35.40Technobliteratorany particular shades?
17:36.42GhelaeLight enough to be seen against the background.
17:36.46GhelaeBut other than that, no,
17:36.53Ghelaethey can be changed later if we need to, right?
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17:44.31OluapWorkerseen dis
17:47.37TechnobliteratorGhelae, yeah, and doing it this way means we can change them all at once
17:47.43Technobliteratorso class names, just tier1-tier5?
17:48.57XhoTitanpad god fucking
17:49.00GhelaePerhaps rev1-rev5, because we're currently describing it in terms of technological revolutions.
17:49.10Technobliteratorsyre
17:49.12Technobliteratorsure*
17:49.37GhelaeWe can add rev0 and rev6 later if we need to include the demographic and cosmological revolutions.
17:51.16XhoI'm going to punch my fucking screen in
17:51.50HachimanEugg
17:51.54HachimanFucking Titanpad
17:52.18XhoOluapPlayer: If we have 5 teams and roughly 15 characters that means we only have 3 characters per team
17:52.24XhoSo we need more to bulk it out
17:52.32XhoWhat we're trying to sort out is how to make it manageable
17:52.41XhoIt is manageable but we need to do it properly
17:52.46OluapWorkerWhy not have each team made entirely of different characters though
17:52.52XhoThat's what we're doing
17:53.11OluapWorkerWe're not, we're putting chars of the primary team into the others
17:53.23XhoWe could do it the other way if you want
17:53.35OluapWorkerI just want this to make sense
17:53.36XhoBut I thought it would be more interesting to have the main characters interact with the extra characters
17:53.51OluapWorkerI'll just go along with it
17:53.54HachimanBut it makes sense to have the main characters split up to go into other teams rather than remaining as one big team
17:53.56OluapWorkerTitanpad is back up
17:54.34XhoI think I'm not explaining it clearly enough
17:54.59HachimanWe're doing this to reduce the number of characters we have to RP during a sesh
17:55.11XhoYeah
17:55.20OluapWorkerRight
17:55.28XhoSo we'll have five teams of different characters over ten sections
17:55.31XhoSo two per team
17:55.40XhoTwo sections that is
17:56.35HachimanSplitting the primary group to join groups with extra characters works to our advantage
17:56.50OluapWorkerRight right
17:56.57HachimanBecause like you said main group consists of 5+ characters for you and splitting them up means you have to RP less characters
17:57.28OluapWorkerSo is Imp not gonna suggest anyone else
18:03.45XhoImperios: get bak in titanpad
18:04.40GhelaeThe tech tree should burst into colour as soon as that code is added to the css.
18:07.04TechnobliteratorGhelae, any preferences for which revs get which colours?
18:08.08GhelaeNot really. But it shouldbe best if they go along the spectrum, so it's intuitive that e.g. blue corresponds to a higher tier than green, and so does green to red.
18:08.21GhelaeOr the other way around.
18:08.27GhelaeAs long as it's consistent.
18:08.51GhelaeMy suggestion would be rev1=red, rev2=orange, rev3=green, rev4=blue.
18:09.10GhelaeAnd we don't currently need any more, although perhaps rev4=cyan and rev5=blue instead.
18:09.14Technobliteratoralright
18:11.26Technobliteratorshould these colors just be for the page, or can they be implemented elsewhere? for instance, on the empire infobox?
18:11.44GhelaeI don't see the harm in letting them be implemented elsewhere.
18:12.05GhelaeHmm. This does mean that the tech tree may be unsuitable for the colour-blind.
18:12.40GhelaeBut if the colours have different brightnesses that shouldn't be a problem.
18:13.12GhelaeWe may end up putting it into a better visualisation later anyway.
18:13.22GhelaeLike an actual tech tree rather than a list of bullets.
18:14.04TekDroidWhat about a simple Tier template that can be implemented in the form {{Tier|3}}, using a switch statement?
18:14.27TechnobliteratorIt could be done even more easily than a switch statement
18:14.36TekDroidProbably
18:15.17Technobliteratorright I can't remember how to make css in common.css target one page specifically, but eh, I'll just make them global
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18:19.52Wormy_hi
18:20.12TekDroidHello
18:21.01GhelaeHello.
18:23.01TechnobliteratorGhelae, Wormy_, implemented
18:23.09Wormy_cool
18:23.12TechnobliteratorThe colors could be changed, but rev1-rev4 added
18:23.49Technobliteratorit's pretty simple for now, but I could get it to work as a background color too among other stuff later
18:23.51GhelaeThanks!
18:23.59GhelaeBut I don't see colours yet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Technology_tree
18:26.01TekDroidI'm seeing the colours
18:26.02Technobliteratorctrl+F5 and they should show up
18:26.36Charles_MurrayTechnobliterator: The colors make the whole thing a -lot- easier to follow, nice! The problem, though, is that the colors you picked make the text really hard to read. Try going for more subtle colors than the -vibrant-, pure red, blue, and green?
18:26.48Wormy_Love the way this mimicking bird mimmicks a whistling workman at :55 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ZffIh0-NA
18:27.04TechnobliteratorCharles_Murray,  http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_colors.asp you can pick your favourite of one of these
18:27.07Technobliteratorfor the colors
18:27.29Charles_MurrayThis for red:
18:27.29Charles_Murray#900000
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18:27.45Charles_MurrayThis for green: #009933
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18:28.19Charles_MurrayTry this for blue: #3366FF Not sure how well it'll work, though.
18:28.29Charles_MurrayThe red I picked might be too dark.
18:28.48Technobliteratorctrl+F5
18:29.11Charles_MurrayYeah, that's -much- better.
18:29.20Charles_Murrayloving the blue
18:29.25Technobliteratorredone the red, I thought it was a bit too dark
18:29.56GhelaeLooks fine to me now.
18:29.58Charles_MurrayI can live with that, though now it looks like a bunch of redlinks. xD
18:30.04Charles_MurrayThis is much lighter: FF3333
18:30.06Charles_Murray#FF3333
18:30.46Technobliteratorhm
18:30.56Technobliteratorthat looks even more like redlinks :p
18:31.53Charles_MurrayUnderstood
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18:39.09GhelaeNow to try to include some of Wormy's additions to my outline.
18:39.44Wormy_Of course, I've got moe to add too
18:39.49Wormy_*more
18:40.36Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AWormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Application_and_theoretical_physics
18:40.44Wormy_All sorts to add
18:47.01Wormy_The Xenology book and Orion's Arm have bootstrap technologies and the like
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19:00.21GhelaeThat should be enough editing the tech tree for now.
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19:20.47DrodoEmpireHey Monet
19:20.52Monethi
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19:50.30HachimanHaii~
19:53.38MonetHi
19:54.15OluapWorker~kidnap Hachiman
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20:03.39DrodoEmpiretest
20:05.50HachimanSo I bought Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn today
20:06.03HachimanI know it is probably not gonna play on my comp but oh well hur
20:06.54OluapWorkerNo one gives a shi fuk off
20:15.44Technobliterator:O
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20:26.40GhelHello.
20:27.20AeoHello.
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20:43.21OluapWorker<3
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20:47.46OluapWorkerKanna - hachi no             Hachi - hachi yes
20:49.08XhoClotho - hachi the fuck
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20:52.13OluapWorkerolol
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21:17.10HachimanSupposed to be sent an email with a confirmation code for my copy of FFXIV
21:17.20HachimanHas not arrived five minutes after supposedly sending
21:17.42MonetMHmm
21:17.53HachimanGood job Squeenix
21:18.11MonetIs there an option to request the verification?
21:18.15Monetagain*
21:18.26HachimanNope
21:19.08HachimanI can only go forward on this thing, not back
21:21.18HachimanYeah looks like I'm not getting this email
21:26.26HachimanWell great looks like I am being held back from FFXIV by my inability to receive a shitty email from Squeenix
21:26.38XhoCheck spam
21:26.42XhoOr junk
21:26.53HachimanNone in there
21:27.13HachimanI wasted £10 on this shit
21:28.28MonetContact customer support
21:30.46HachimanUgh why bother they're not going to help
21:30.58HachimanI need to get a confirmation code to confirm an account with Square Enix
21:31.46MonetI know a few websites that offer a button to verify a nemail address in the account profile on the site.
21:31.56MonetAn unverified account can do a few basic things
21:32.04TechnobliteratorUh
21:32.21Technobliteratorwhich account did you sign up for?
21:32.36HachimanWhat do you mean which account
21:32.42HachimanThey only offer you one
21:33.51HachimanIt asks if I have a Square Enix account, which I do not, and if I do not have one that I should get one to play the game as a requirement
21:34.40MonetCan you  Still sign in to the website?
21:34.53HachimanIt wants me to sign-up from the launcher window
21:34.59HachimanI will try the website
21:39.57HachimanWell apparently I already have a SE account
21:40.35HachimanWhich I cannot access because 1) I cannot remember the account name and 2) cannot remember the email and in order to change the email I need to answer one of the emergency questions which I cannot remember my answer to
21:40.50HachimanAnd I cannot make a new account because my email already takes up the old account
21:41.34HachimanI wasted £10 for this shit
21:41.40Hachiman£10 and a fuck load of time
21:42.43Wormy_Can't you set up a new account using a new email?
21:43.28HachimanSuppose I could but that is ugh
21:43.38HachimanSqueenix is just fucking retarded
21:43.59HachimanIf I cannot remember my primary password why the fuck would I be able to remember my emergency one
21:44.01HachimanDickheads
21:45.31HachimanOh and in order to set up a new email I have to give my mobile number when I do not have a mobile
21:45.47HachimanThis whole fucking thing was a mistake I should never have even paid for this crappy game
21:46.00MonetI never had these problems with Blizzard.
21:46.00HachimanA game that will probably not even work knowing how shitty my PC is
21:46.28HachimanYeah but Blizzard produces shit
21:46.50MonetExclude WoW and it's not so horrid
21:47.15MonetAnd the whole "Error 37" incident
21:47.46MonetI once had my accunt hacked and Blizzard were able to restore it, and my lost characters, in a week or two.
21:47.51Monetaccount*
21:48.18MonetAs well as all the things the hacker probably pilfered before deleting the character
21:49.47TechnobliteratorHachiman, there are two different Square Enix accounts
21:50.27TechnobliteratorYou can have one and not the other
21:50.44HachimanI do not get what you mean
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21:52.45Externalizer_ficHey
21:52.56TechnobliteratorOn what website did you sign up for an account where you were told you already had one?
21:53.07GhelHello.
21:53.19HachimanThe launcher for FFXIV from Steam
21:53.28HachimanNo wait
21:53.34HachimanThe main Square Enix website
21:53.46TechnobliteratorWrong place
21:54.02Technobliterator(and yes, I know SE are fucked up with their account names)
21:54.08TechnobliteratorThere's a secure account and a generic SE account
21:54.10Externalizer_fic?
21:54.18TechnobliteratorSecure being for FFXI, FFXIV and DQX (?)
21:54.20HachimanOh my God this is retarded
21:54.24TechnobliteratorGeneric for all their games
21:54.34TechnobliteratorYes, it is retarded, I ran into the same problem when I was installing
21:54.37Technobliteratorit was super frustrating
21:54.38Externalizer_ficDoes anyone think Atari should take the place of EA? I don't. hur dur.
21:54.50HachimanSo what do I do then?
21:55.20Technobliteratorhttp://www.square-enix.com/na/account/ Is this the one you used?
21:55.40HachimanNo because that's North America
21:55.56Hachimanhttp://eu.square-enix.com/en/home I used this site
21:56.17TechnobliteratorThat's the wrong one
21:56.31HachimanRetarded
21:56.35TechnobliteratorThe NA one is the right one
21:56.37TechnobliteratorI know
21:57.34Technobliteratorhttps://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/login?cont=account Or this one
21:57.59MonetExternalizer_fic: Cept Atari are still faithful to their original vision
21:58.14MonetAtari 4 lyf
21:58.17HachimanSo use the North American one then
21:58.54HachimanWon't let me select Europe for registering a new account
21:58.54HachimanGG
21:59.03TechnobliteratorTry my other link
22:01.44HachimanIt says an email will not be sent for email addresses that are used on another SE account
22:01.50HachimanFucking brilliant Squeenix
22:01.52HachimanG fucking G
22:02.06Externalizer_ficIkr
22:02.17Externalizer_ficWhen corporations do that,
22:02.19Externalizer_ficIt's jsut
22:02.22Externalizer_ficRetarded
22:03.38HachimanAs I thought
22:03.39HachimanNo email
22:03.54HachimanNo matter which site or account or whatevern I use I cannot use my primary email for this hit
22:03.57Hachimanshit even
22:04.07TechnobliteratorThen use SE's support
22:04.44HachimanI don't even care anymore I'm just going to use another email account
22:04.54HachimanWhy would SE care
22:05.06Externalizer_ficHachiman: Corporations.
22:05.08HachimanIf they cared they wouldn't arrange themselves like this in such a fucking stupid way
22:05.14Externalizer_ficthey nu car
22:05.14Wormy_Also how could Hach prove he owns that account
22:05.19Wormy_Hachi
22:07.42TechnobliteratorHachiman, they actually did help me when I went to them
22:07.55TechnobliteratorTo say their support centers won't work is kind of silly
22:08.32HachimanIt doesn't matter now
22:08.46HachimanI just used a newly set-up email account that I will never use again
22:08.56HachimanFucking Square honestly
22:09.21TechnobliteratorJust contact SE support ._.
22:09.22HachimanEven if I wanted to I could not play this fucking game today because it is going to take around 77 minutes to download and patch
22:10.54Tek0516O.o
22:10.56Externalizer_ficHachiman: I told you, CORPORATIONS ARE BEHIND THIS!
22:11.15HachimanExternalizer: Whoopee fucking doo
22:11.29HachimanYou think I do not know Square Enix is a corporation
22:11.39HachimanOf course I know Square Enix is a corporation
22:15.01Externalizer_ficNo need to be rude.
22:15.47TechnobliteratorNo offense, Externalizer, but your comment was kind of rude as well
22:15.59TechnobliteratorHe's clearly frustrated
22:16.33Externalizer_ficI meant it as a joke. If it was rude, I am sorry.
22:16.46Wormy_Yes, Hachi is in a stressful situation and that is the wrong moment for a joke.
22:17.04Technobliteratorit's ok
22:17.08Technobliteratorjust know for next time
22:19.16HachimanI'm sorry, I am being rather unnecessary
22:19.29HachimanI've just been really kind of stressed lately
22:21.20MonetA lot of us have been
22:21.30MonetI empathise with you.
22:22.03TechnobliteratorIt's fine
22:22.07TechnobliteratorI was just as frustrated
22:22.12Externalizer_ficYeah.
22:22.15HachimanStill
22:22.20Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:22.22HachimanAs much as I like Square's products
22:22.41TechnobliteratorI hate how confusing their site is
22:22.42Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:22.44HachimanTheir account management sucks more than FFXIII did
22:22.54Technobliteratorno, nothing sucks that bad
22:22.54Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:23.14HachimanWormy_: Ouch, that is going to sting
22:23.24Wormy_Yep
22:23.40Externalizer_ficHachiman: Ever heard of a game from them called Just Cause 2? It's a good stress reliever for me, believe it or not.
22:23.50Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:23.56HachimanI am not too fond of Just Cause
22:24.22MonetTechnobliterator: Ride To Hell Retribution.
22:24.34Externalizer_ficOf course, the first agency mission pissed me off since I couldn't get through it.
22:24.40TechnobliteratorJust Cause 2 is awesome
22:25.35Externalizer_ficI eventually got through that mission, after...~15 tries.
22:26.23Wormy_The only game I've given up on is Mass Effect.  Can't defeat that blue bitch
22:26.36Wormy_Entered that level too early
22:27.19Wormy_And even if I do I get shot down afterwards
22:28.20Externalizer_ficWormy_: Right? I never play it because of that and the long cutscenes tthat can't be skipped.
22:28.30Externalizer_ficNot a patient person
22:28.42Wormy_That is annoying enough, having to repeat over ad over.
22:29.28Wormy_Bad programming imo
22:30.01Wormy_Especially that you can enter unplayab;le levels if too low
22:30.57Wormy_Everyone *did* warn me to play ME2 first
22:31.07Wormy_So I will give that a shot
22:31.30Externalizer_ficolol
22:31.48Externalizer_ficYou have to buy the previous game in order to play the other game correctly?
22:32.02Externalizer_fic2015-Worst gaming year ever.
22:32.29MonetWe got GTA V on PC.
22:32.49MonetDefinitely not the worst year ever.
22:33.04Externalizer_ficMostly bad year.
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22:33.36Externalizer_ficHave you compared the 2014 and 2015 Guiness World Records Gaming Edition books? Especially bad.
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22:33.45Wormy_hi
22:33.53The_RandomnessHello
22:34.00Externalizer_ficHey
22:34.13Externalizer_ficHave you also seen the Xbox 1? Also bad.
22:34.16Externalizer_ficGames for it?
22:34.18Externalizer_ficBad.
22:34.29Externalizer_ficI mean games ONLY for it.
22:34.51MonetWhat about the PS4?
22:35.13MonetBesides 2015's not over yet
22:35.33MonetWe have Star Citizen, Witcher III and GalCiv III coming.
22:35.41Wormy_2014 had gamergate
22:36.12Externalizer_ficPS4 is good
22:36.25Externalizer_ficso far though, 2015 is bad. AND IT'S ONLY BEEN 4 MONTHS.
22:36.46Externalizer_ficI miss 2013
22:36.50Externalizer_ficAnd 2014
22:36.55MonetCalm down and look into that case of EGS.
22:37.19Externalizer_fic?
22:37.21Externalizer_ficEGS?
22:38.18MonetEntitled Gamer Syndrome.
22:38.50MonetIt's symptoms include moaning about the state of the latest releases and a longing for the success of previous gaming years
22:40.16ExternalizerEasy homework. :/
22:40.22TechnobliteratorConsole gaming is more or less dead
22:40.53ExternalizerHey
22:41.15ExternalizerWhat about Advanced Warfare, Titanfall, Minecraft,
22:41.23ExternalizerFarcry 4
22:41.38ExternalizerAnd others? Are you counting them or everything else?
22:41.40Technobliteratorall garbage
22:41.44Technobliteratorexcept Far Cry
22:42.04ExternalizerWHAT ABOUT CIV?! HAHAHA
22:42.06MonetFiscally Advanced Warfare was good.
22:42.13ExternalizerCiv Revolution?
22:42.31ExternalizerI burn-ed u: https://patblansh.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/angry-kid.jpg
22:42.31Monet2008
22:42.42MonetNot 2015
22:42.51Technobliteratorand garbage next to Civ on PC
22:43.15TechnobliteratorConsole gaming died last gen
22:43.21Technobliteratorand now it's on life support gasping for breath
22:43.35ExternalizerI blame Microsoft. :/
22:43.46MonetTechnobliterator: Then how come GAME sells mostly console stuff now?
22:43.58TechnobliteratorThe console stuff it sells is shit
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22:44.11TechnobliteratorLet's see, what good games did we have last year?
22:44.31TechnobliteratorUncharted...Mass Effect which went to shit...Assassin's Creed which went to shit...
22:45.15ExternalizerI sense a gaming crash...
22:45.25MonetMass Effect only went to shit because of 10 minutes at the very end
22:45.28ExternalizerAnd we can all blame it on MICROSOFT.
22:46.44MonetIt was a very solid game up until the whole "catalyst" fiasco
22:47.31The_RandomnessWhoa, did I just walk into us circlejerking about how bad games have become or something?
22:47.47MonetThe_Randomness: Sadly.
22:47.52The_Randomnessl o l
22:48.00MonetThough personally I loved Mass Effect III
22:48.26MonetI don't really care too much about the ending because al lthe crazy shit I did in the middle was worth it
22:49.00ExternalizerThis is how the gaming year of 2015 began: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYj9pARb7WM
22:50.09ExternalizerAnd this is how THAT year began: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bn7DGuaMGY
22:50.29Wormy_I don't like all this negativism
22:50.30TechnobliteratorMass Effect 3 is not as good as Mass Effect 2
22:50.50Wormy_Its just a sign we're showing our age lol
22:50.56TechnobliteratorBut no, the problem of gaming in 2015 is that gaming is dead
22:50.58ExternalizerNumber two on the 2014 one sounds like EA.
22:50.59The_RandomnessI bet if you went back to any year you would get people going "DAE this year is le worst?"
22:51.05MonetI saw a Sandworm Queen smash the shit out of a Reaper, blew up another reaper using a targeting device while on FOOT, Mordin had an epic farewell, I revisited Eden Prime, gave the Quarians their homeworld back, and I got to have intense gunfights though the streets of London
22:51.14TechnobliteratorIt's no longer about creativity or about the expereince
22:51.21Technobliteratorit's just "DAE realistic shooters????????"
22:51.34MonetRandomness: Oh yeah we had Dragon Age Inquisition...I think
22:51.55The_RandomnessHoly cow this is getting as whiny as Reddit now
22:52.05TechnobliteratorHas anything new been released that people have actually cared about that isn't an FPS?
22:52.21MonetTechnobliterator: Dragon Age Inquisition?
22:52.28TechnobliteratorAnd isn't from a series that came from before this gen?
22:52.48MonetNow you're jsut being picky.
22:53.05TechnobliteratorNo I'm not
22:53.37Monetisn't from a series that came from before this gen > AKA any PS4-era IP
22:53.52TechnobliteratorNo new interesting, creative or exceptional games have been released this gen, and not many last gen I'd argue, that have sold well, pushed boundaries or excited anyone
22:54.20TechnobliteratorNow, we're looking at a corrupt, shitty market full of FPSes and shitty audiences that will eat up all the garbage these major publishers release
22:54.23Wormy_I play some gamesm go meh, and others and I'm in awe, that's all there is to it hur
22:54.25The_Randomnesszzz
22:54.30The_RandomnessCan we stop?
22:55.33ExternalizerStill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYj9pARb7WM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bn7DGuaMGY
22:55.43ExternalizerAll of its going downhill.
22:55.45Externalizer:/
22:55.49ExternalizerRant. Done.
22:55.54The_RandomnessI don't care, this negativity is complete shit to look at
22:56.07Wormy_Its also kinda subjective
22:56.11The_RandomnessYeah
22:56.32Wormy_I find it really hard to get informative info on games sometimes
22:57.12MonetSatisfaction has a lot of subjectivity to it
22:57.32Wormy_I've seen people wax poetic over ME1 but my experience of it became quite crappy.
22:57.38The_RandomnessI also feel like this has a lot to do with the entitled gamer mentality
22:57.48TechnobliteratorI don't think this is about entitlement
23:04.06DrodoEmpireCan we just... Not, rant about the perceived shittiness of the games market? :L
23:04.16The_RandomnessPlease
23:05.37TechnobliteratorI would be inclined to agree if it was perceived shittiness, I think the declining lack of variation, tendency towards same-ish FPS shooters and tons of cash grabs is objective
23:05.56DrodoEmpireBesides the fact that I can name off a few good recent ones off the top of my head, its just an annoying discussion. ;P
23:06.01DrodoEmpire*:P
23:06.12DrodoEmpireI'm not disagreeing with you by any means
23:06.27DrodoEmpireThe "mainstream" market has had a considerable dip in quality
23:06.37DrodoEmpireBut its not worth discussing because ngh
23:06.55TechnobliteratorI guess it's not fun to read
23:07.00Wormy_Ohgod, I just landed on "How it's made" on TV, can't get away from it.
23:07.04TechnobliteratorI'm notoriously cynical
23:07.21DrodoEmpireWormy: It sucks you in, doesn't it. XD
23:07.23DrodoEmpire*?
23:08.27Wormy_indeed
23:09.04Wormy_I like How do they do it?  too
23:10.04DrodoEmpireYeah
23:16.00Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/7Dhnj1p
23:16.47Wormy_"I can't wait to see the failed attempts at this"
23:17.11The_Randomnessheh
23:21.26Monet"i thought the title said, pina colada cookies and i was confused by everything until i realized it was a pinata"
23:21.44Externalizer^ olol
23:22.22ExternalizerMonet: Remember: http://imgur.com/gallery/fFOdg ?
23:27.12MonetExternalizer:  Yeah
23:27.21ExternalizerYou know that girl I was talking about with the fish-net leggings? She made this awhile ago but finally had the nerve to upload it 6 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH2k4LJRQrQ but I still think "Guy Fieri takes you to Flavortown" is better. A lot better.
23:27.56Wormy_duckling tax http://www.cutehomepets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/cute-pet-ducklings.jpg
23:28.02ExternalizerFlavortown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXdnYd0wwDE
23:28.28ExternalizerWormy_: Needs more rawr and blood.
23:29.09Wormy_Plot twist:  They feed on mined human flesh
23:30.02ExternalizerWormy_: That's more like it.
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23:33.44ExternalizerAnyone agree with me that Flavortown is better than Taylars singing?
23:33.48Wormy_wot http://imgur.com/gallery/2Jjjs6s
23:33.50ExternalizerI think so...a lot...
23:34.44Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/JLr62ih
23:35.15DrodoEmpireolol
23:35.30ExternalizerDats vegans
23:35.51ExternalizerAlways will sacrifice their own children..FOR THE HOLY COWS!!! ALL HAIL THE COWS!!!
23:37.01Hachiman*Chin Chin
23:37.13ExternalizerWell, the more extreme ones
23:39.12Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/J7Sjz
23:39.17ExternalizerCome on, does ANYONE agree with my above comment? "[17:27] <Externalizer> You know that girl I was talking about with the fish-net leggings? She made this awhile ago but finally had the nerve to upload it 6 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH2k4LJRQrQ but I still think "Guy Fieri takes you to Flavortown" is better. A lot better."?
23:39.18TekDroidSomeone really didn't think it through with that vegan tweet. XD
23:42.55ExternalizerTekDroid: You think THAT was bad? https://twitter.com/veganrevoiution
23:43.02ExternalizerIT'S ALL RACIST
23:43.05ExternalizerGAAAAAA
23:44.13TekDroidreads a few then closes the tab with a O.o
23:44.52TekDroid"meatarded" Haven't seen that before. XD
23:46.08ExternalizerTekDroid: I'd make an account on Twitter JUST so I can flame that person to stop insulting meat lovers everywhere.
23:46.25ExternalizerI'm bookmarking the page for reference. :P
23:47.02ExternalizerYep. Doing it.
23:47.09ExternalizerYep. Doing it.
23:47.31Wormy_<PROTECTED>
23:47.41Wormy_What kind of point is that?
23:48.02TekDroid...is that supposed to make any sense? O.o
23:48.25ExternalizerTwitter is so large I can't even use "Finalizer".
23:48.48ExternalizerWormy_: Maybe an ISIS supporter.
23:49.29TekDroidI seriously hope this is a troll.
23:50.16ExternalizerWhelp
23:50.19ExternalizerI am going to
23:50.22ExternalizerFlame this person
23:50.28ExternalizerFor sheer stupidity
23:50.39ExternalizerWell, the reason is sheer stupidity on their part.
23:50.50Wormy_I believe its a troll
23:51.17Wormy_https://twitter.com/VeganRevoIution/status/593469516115480577
23:51.36TekDroid...
23:51.57Wormy_Unfortunately I bet it does trick some real vegans lol
23:52.47ExternalizerTechnobliterator: How come you deleted the BAC image?
23:54.53Wormy_https://twitter.com/VeganRevoIution/status/593431184920678400
23:55.40ExternalizerYIZTHISPERSONSOSTUPID?!
23:55.52ExternalizerI want to send this link to Xho, see what he will say.
23:57.14Wormy_Err what about the soya and palm oil industry?  That is damaging the rainforest and soya is consumed vastly by vegans https://twitter.com/veganchick12/status/593373615208275969
23:57.49Externalizerhur durrrrrrrr
23:57.58ExternalizerMeat is a VITAL resource.
23:58.01ExternalizerVITAL.
23:58.31ExternalizerThe protein that meat has is almost unrivaled.
23:58.49ExternalizerWould you rather get your protein from a giant chicken leg or a carrot?
23:59.06DrodoEmpireI'm not very judgmental about people's dietary choices
23:59.07DrodoEmpire:p
23:59.21DrodoEmpireBest not to be because its, you know, none of my fucking business what other people eat.

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