IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150410

00:01.37AeoI got 75% of the letters. That's a C.
00:01.59AeoC:
00:02.08AeoC:
00:02.18AeoCapital C Colon.
00:02.27AeoHow have I not seen this one used before?
00:02.37AeoIt's a much better smile than :)
00:02.51MonetAwayC not good enough
00:03.01AeoActually no. Now, looking at both of them, :) is better.
00:03.11MonetTry again and go for an A, then we'll be happy.
00:03.23AeoOkay, dad,
00:09.46Wood_Pulp_VII:D is almost the same but better
00:10.01Wood_Pulp_VIIit looks happier than :)
00:20.32Abysswalker25Do the citizens of the DI eat with diamond cutlery?
00:20.42Abysswalker25Or is that for the slaves?
00:20.58Abysswalker25Er 'sub-citizen'
00:21.59MonetThat may be a bit much.
00:22.24MonetPLus pure dimond might crack if used as a knife or fork.
00:22.51Abysswalker25Was a joke about how absurbly rich they are lol
00:22.58Abysswalker25absurdly*
00:23.50MonetOhlol
00:24.40Abysswalker25Although now I wonder what a diamond fork would look like.
00:25.22Wood_Pulp_VIIDepends how you made it. If you created artificial diamonds in the shape of a fork it would probably just look like glass or something
00:25.40Wood_Pulp_VIIIf you used natural diamonds it would look really weird.
00:26.50Monethttp://www.naturaldiamond9.com/image/cache/data/rough-diamond/rough-diamond9/081a%20gl750-500x500.jpg uncut diamond lacks the orderly prettyness of those in gemstones
00:27.15Abysswalker25So it would be lumpy and crude looking while being sparkly?
00:29.17MonetPossibly
00:34.52Abysswalker25Wonder if I should side with the DCP or Xonexi
00:35.12Abysswalker25I was going to pick Xonexi first but they got beat down in the milky way, so it made me rethink things.
00:35.16Abysswalker25I SHALL SEE.
00:35.46HachimanDepends whether your empire is likely to choose between ideals or survival
00:36.44Abysswalker25Well, I'd say ideals for the lone fact this universe seems to be er
00:36.50Abysswalker25fairly bleak and depressing by now
00:37.04DrodoAway"(Teeth) whitening strips did me no good. It promised whitening after 14 days. Even after 15 days I'm still Asian. Wtf."
00:37.12DrodoEmprie>.<
00:37.37Abysswalker25The Drodo Empire is especially depressing
00:37.37MonetI keep meaning to ask what the status of the Katar Sector is, given the DCP's dominance everywhere else in the Milky Way
00:37.52DrodoEmpireAbyss: ?
00:37.57MonetThat or I have asked, but kee pforgetting :P
00:38.07Abysswalker25They are a warlike species, even more violent then the Loron.
00:38.08Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Education_and_Upbringing New section. Feedback would be appreciated.
00:38.24DrodoEmpireIt had a *really* fuckin' rough past, but its a very vibrant society now
00:38.26Abysswalker2512 feet tall, a race of giants
00:38.30DrodoEmpireNo...? :p
00:38.48Abysswalker25Technology known to be able to erase entire star systems
00:38.57DrodoEmpireThey're actually pretty short and while fairly militaristic, not mindlessly violent like the Loron
00:39.05DrodoEmpire*they are
00:39.08Abysswalker25Im just rambling on for no reason
00:39.18DrodoEmpireI'd say. :p
00:39.18AeoThat's too much for a starting empire I think.
00:39.34Abysswalker25The Drodo Empire is new?
00:39.48DrodoEmpireNo, its been around for a good two years now
00:39.50DrodoEmpireAt least
00:39.56Abysswalker25Oh.
00:39.56AeoWait, which one are we talking about?
00:39.59DrodoEmpireIts 2.9
00:40.05DrodoEmpireI'm a little confused now too
00:40.21Abysswalker25Basically, I started telling a bunch of lies and hyping up the Drodo Empire.
00:40.21AeoWhose empire can erase star systems?
00:40.35AeoAh.
00:40.40DrodoEmpireOhh
00:40.45Abysswalker25Xhodocto could, if you wanna be very technical.
00:40.53TechnobliteratorThere aren't many more empires more openly hostile than Da Rogue Boyz
00:41.02DrodoEmpire^
00:41.07TechnobliteratorMaybe the Dominion, but they don't really count
00:42.15Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Military#Special_Forces Worte up briefly on the special forces units of the Di
00:43.08Abysswalker25The Loron make me laugh with their oversized heads and bug-eyes.
00:43.12DrodoEmpireI've... *Really* neglected special forces in regards to the Drodoian military. :p I might wanna fix that but I don't find them very interesting right about now
00:43.47Abysswalker25Reminds me, I should expand my own millitary. Or make a page about characters. Idk.
00:44.00Abysswalker25Theres just a lot to do lol
00:45.03DrodoEmpireAbyss: Well... They're also pretty imposing, physically. They're so strong, in fact, that they manage to beat well-organized militaries when they themselves are little more than an armed mob. That doesn't happen often. XD
00:45.50DrodoEmpireTakes an explosive balance of incredibly-powerful individual fighters, a fearsome reputation, psychological warfare, and, of course, numbers. Overwhelming numbers.
00:45.54MonetThe Astral Ranger Corps is probably the newest addition as I made it just last night lol.
00:46.14Monetthis night, sorry
00:46.20DrodoEmpireAh
00:46.22DrodoEmpireTaking a look
00:47.00MonetI had all these super-elite special froces, and not something with a lower benchmark or more open recruiting stock.
00:47.15DrodoEmpireRight
00:48.35DrodoEmpireGranted, Drodo aren't *too* different by-times to the Loron. They're *big* fans of bayonet charges and their officers wear (and use) full-blown swords in battle, after all. XD
00:49.05DrodoEmpirePartially because I've never been a fan of straight-up *modern* warfare. I've always leaned towards the Napoleonic wars
00:49.09DrodoEmpireAnd earlier
00:49.36Abysswalker25Umbris use traps and terrain to their advantage. They don't like fighting in the open because if the enemy has better numbers, they can be overwhelmed.
00:49.41Abysswalker25Divide and Conquer.
00:49.45DrodoEmpireRight
00:50.47TechnobliteratorAbysswalker25, the Loron in general are comic relief and not meant to be taken seriously except under a few rare circumstances :p
00:51.13TechnobliteratorIt's kind of why they're possibly the most humanocentric in the fiction universe
00:51.17DrodoEmpire^
00:51.20Abysswalker25From what I've seen, they are the most dangerous beings of all. If they were less stupid, chances are they'd have overrun everyone.
00:51.59TechnobliteratorMore or less
00:52.05Abysswalker25That is why
00:52.10Abysswalker25I will capture a loron and experiment on it
00:52.14Abysswalker25to give it hyper intelligence
00:52.17TechnobliteratorOutside of UNO, they are disorganised
00:52.29DrodoEmpireWell, one of the more physically-imposing. I imagine its trivially-easy to outwit the rare Loron military commander. XD
00:52.48MonetAlso I imagined the Ranger Corps and Wraith Legion would have a bit of friction between each other.
00:52.56DrodoEmpireRivalry?
00:53.14TechnobliteratorIt's not like the Loron military have ever heard of tactics
00:53.22MonetDrodoEmpire: Yeah
00:53.34Abysswalker25I will use my greatest invention of all to fight them.
00:53.34DrodoEmpireSort-of like how the US Marines and... Every other branch of the United States army are rivals?
00:53.35Abysswalker25The fence.
00:53.35DrodoEmpireXD
00:53.48DrodoEmpireTech: Yeah I suppose
00:54.10DrodoEmpireAbyss: Best be a big fence.
00:54.20MonetRanger - Tin man!    Legionnaire - Dirt-eating pasny!
00:54.22DrodoEmpireThey might not have brains, but they have *plenty* of big guns
00:54.39Abysswalker25No, its one of those fences from Pokemon
00:54.48Abysswalker25you can't go over it. You can't go through it.
00:54.51DrodoEmpireDrodo Cavalryman - Heh I'm actually taller than either of you for once
00:55.09DrodoEmpireDrodo Cavalryman - *stands up on stirrups* Hah!
00:55.25DrodoEmpire*in stirrups
00:55.27MonetAnd yes, with the right gene mods there probably are rangers that can sustain themselves (for a time) on soil.
00:55.35DrodoEmpireMakes sense
00:55.42DrodoEmpireRations run out eventually. :p
00:55.48Abysswalker25I had an idea to create a race of adorable looking walrus people that are actually the owners of a MASSIVE criminal empire, and generally act like the space mafia.
00:56.00DrodoEmpireEh, could work
00:56.10Technobliteratorfun fact, the Loron are the only fiction I ever made that I'm proud of
00:56.12Abysswalker25I got the idea from Conker's Bad Fur Day lol
00:56.16MonetThat's one of the key soruces of friction though. Rangers prefer gene mods, Wraith Legion prefer bionics.
00:56.36DrodoEmpireIn my (admittedly limited) experience with that sort of thing though it can get a bit hectic. Extranational organizations I mean
00:56.49TechnobliteratorThe others have gone through masses of revisions and I still think they're just so-so
00:56.54DrodoEmpireDon't let that discourage you, but be wary of what you're going through
00:57.04DrodoEmpireI don't think they're bad Tech. :3
00:57.16DrodoEmpire*getting yourself into.
00:57.18DrodoEmpire>.<
00:57.18Abysswalker25I think I'll just focus on the Umbris for now. I'm still new, need to learn the ins and outs.
00:57.23DrodoEmpireYeah
00:57.31TechnobliteratorMaybe not too bad, but there's definitely a lot of fiction better than mine
00:57.57Abysswalker25I think a lot of people feel like that about themselves, except for the most arrogant.
00:58.11TechnobliteratorYeah, that's true
00:58.21TechnobliteratorModesty is healthy
00:58.25DrodoEmpire^
00:58.31Abysswalker25When I was writing up my page I was terrified of it not being up to snuff with the older ones.
00:58.49Abysswalker25Hearing that it was 'fine' was a relief lol
00:59.00DrodoEmpireThough, humility to the point of where you *seriously* believe you aren't the best thing since sliced bread isn't... <.<
01:00.17MonetThere's modesty and then there's denial over any kind of merit.
01:00.53Abysswalker25No, but I get kind of depressed if I get no comment when I make a story. Makes me feel like it isn't very good.
01:01.01DrodoEmpire^
01:01.06TechnobliteratorTo be fair, it's hard for me to say anything is worse than or better than the Loron because there's so few fiction like it. I just say it does what it does, if you're into that sort of thing, you'll have a fun time reading it.
01:01.18DrodoEmpireYeah, definitely
01:02.24TechnobliteratorI think I wrote about 80 Loron pages in total.
01:02.38DrodoEmpireLike
01:02.55DrodoEmpireEighty *information* pages?
01:03.09TechnobliteratorOh, a couple of them were story pages
01:03.16DrodoEmpireAh...
01:03.22DrodoEmpireWell still
01:03.39TechnobliteratorAt least 92 Taldar pages, but I've considered getting rid of a lot of those
01:04.29DrodoEmpireI was about to say if those were all info pages; Jesus tapdancing Christ that'd be a lot of info for one fiction
01:04.40Technobliterator:p
01:04.55TechnobliteratorNone of them are massively essential, though
01:04.57Abysswalker25I'm looking forward to my first collaberation. Of course
01:05.02Abysswalker25I have no one to do such with just yet
01:05.14DrodoEmpireI should be good in a little while
01:05.17Abysswalker25But it will be interesting I think
01:05.18DrodoEmpireSo I *could*
01:05.27TechnobliteratorMost people only write a few paragraphs for soldier classes or ships, and I write whole pages for each
01:05.35DrodoEmpire^
01:05.41TechnobliteratorWhich is why I end up with so many fiction pages
01:05.47Abysswalker25I made a couple. I really -really- need more space ships though.
01:05.57Abysswalker25I just have the Shadow Star and Stealth Fighter MK-3
01:06.01DrodoEmpireI really have sort-of the reverse problem; I don't make enough subpages I find
01:06.15DrodoEmpireAlmost all you need to know about the Drodo is one long-ass page. :p
01:06.43DrodoEmpire(Except some small details like the police force, and the not-so-small detail like the Aristocracy maybe)
01:06.43Abysswalker25Millitary wise I've got.. 3, so far.
01:06.53Abysswalker25Defender, Soldier, Void-Stalker. I might add more.
01:07.09DrodoEmpireMight need to. Having a well-rounded armed forces is pretty important
01:08.00MonetWhen it comes to infantry, the DI page seems to be massively expansive but also somehat vague. Like I've lsited the different divisions but not the specialisations of soldier i nthose divisions.
01:08.03DrodoEmpireSpeaking of which the Drodo have basically a national police force. They don't like relying on provincial ones and these police are semi-militarized. XD They are often the ones fighting armed revolts or forming the first line of defence in the event of hostile incursion
01:08.09TechnobliteratorI like to separate them because of wiki purposes
01:08.25TechnobliteratorMostly technical reasons
01:08.32DrodoEmpireSo they are a *lot* like the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in the 1800's
01:09.01Abysswalker25I'm thinking of adding Medics and Heavy Troopers.
01:09.08Abysswalker25Or demolitions
01:09.11Abysswalker25cause who doesn't like bombs
01:10.11MonetI recal lsomewhere dedicated medics have become less prominent in modern battlefields.
01:10.31TechnobliteratorMediaWiki hates long pages and there's ~35k byte limits before it starts hating people
01:10.40Abysswalker25It'd be a 'combat medic' type thing.
01:10.42AdmiralPandaThat's not true, what is true is that now basically everyone has grassroots medical training, and medical access is more reliable
01:11.09AdmiralPandathere are still squad medics and all, it's just there's less of a stark "he's the only guy in the squad that can put you back together"
01:11.15TechnobliteratorAnd it also really, really hates people who shove too many templates on a page, and doesn't like when people add more than one infobox
01:11.28Abysswalker25I'll add 5 then.
01:11.35Technobliteratorbecause I like using info boxes and templates and masses of text everywhere...yeah
01:11.53MonetAdmiralPanda: So more "he's the only guy in the squad who can do more than a quick fix-up"?
01:12.00AdmiralPandabasically, yeah
01:12.56Aeo"Anyways, the EoD have a very long and complicated set of differing military troop and ship types which I will now spend like five-thousand words describing despite the fact that these details will absolutely never ever come up in, let alone matter in the context of any story I will ever write with these characters." - The Parody Empire I'm Writing.
01:12.58MonetAnd withi nthe DI that change might be more pronounced as every marine and legionnaire carries seeveral "instant stitch-up" nanite syringes
01:13.03AdmiralPandalike I remember in my fourth year of cadets when we were doing a first aid course on annual camp, the army medic that was running it said something along hte lines of "your average digger today has the same medical training as a field medic back then"
01:13.46AdmiralPandasame level of*
01:14.13MonetSo first aid in the Talon Aetheral corps becomes "I'm hit!" *stab, waits a bit* "Okay back in action!"
01:14.44DrodoEmpireAeo: Differing fiction writing styles man. :p Character-based ones? Not so much, maybe. But summaries of entire wars or outlines of battles its important.
01:15.09DrodoEmpireI get its parody but parody should be accurate. :p
01:15.43MonetBut the DI still uses medics as nanosprays at best only stop the bleeding and immediate pain.
01:15.47TekDroidSo this fix should either make this work, or I'll BSOD again. >.<
01:15.57Abysswalker25Okay, what about
01:16.06Abysswalker25(Stealing from X-com) a support soldier?
01:16.16DrodoEmpireWell what would such a soldier have?
01:16.29AdmiralPandaTekDroid: y u BSOD'ing?
01:16.55Abysswalker25Support soldiers generally work to make everyone on their team better. Like, they carry a bunch of smoke bombs, or med-kits. Things like that.
01:17.08TekDroidSpace Engine bug with AMD/ATI graphics cards.
01:17.25AdmiralPandafor a moment I thought you said space engineers and I was worried
01:18.00TekDroidUnless Space Engineers has black holes. :P
01:18.18Abysswalker25Real black holes look.. weird.
01:18.24Abysswalker25They aren't as fancy as I thought
01:18.25TekDroidOh thank goodness, only a crash.
01:18.40DrodoEmpireBasically, if you're using modern warfare as a basis (which would be a good start for humanoids), the majority of troops in an infantry squad *generally* are armed with some sort of service rifle, and are fairly-all around. Then they have a few specialists, such as medics, and perhaps one or two troops armed with a machine gun of some sort.
01:18.51DrodoEmpireFor fire-support
01:18.52AdmiralPandaspeaking of which, you can now take your helmet off with a single button-press in SE now
01:19.00Abysswalker25Yeah, Soldiers make up the bulk.
01:19.25MonetBut compared to years ago, said soldiers are trained to be more adaptive.
01:20.05MonetA particular squaddie coudl carry the LMG one mission, and a marksman's rifle the enxt.
01:20.32Monetnext*
01:20.34DrodoEmpireSuch a general "support soldier" *might* work... But really it may be more important to have maybe two different specialists for medical and explosives-handling, and then another one or two armed with LMGs. I just feel having a one-size-fits-all support trooper may be putting too many eggs in one basket
01:20.53DrodoEmpireI'd develop the idea further, at any rate. Its a good start though
01:20.53Abysswalker25I don't want a guy with bombs also carrying meds.
01:21.07Abysswalker25Means to give someone a medspray and accidently gives them a bomb.
01:21.26Abysswalker25I bet the loron do that.
01:21.39AdmiralPandaThey take out the "accidentaly"
01:21.45TechnobliteratorI'm sure it's been known to happen
01:22.39TekDroidjumps into point blank ranfe of black hole with no crash
01:22.48Abysswalker25Out of curiosity are they a "the strongest rules everyone else" type people? Or do they just rally under ones that are slightly less stupid?
01:22.50TekDroidhas a heaet attack
01:23.08TekDroidWell... worked that time. XD
01:23.17Abysswalker25Or whoever can rap the best
01:23.43MonetEODs may have steady hands ,but sometimes it's best ot keep them as EODs
01:24.18DrodoEmpireTekDroid: Yeah I'll be honest the SpaceEngine black hole freaks me out
01:24.39AdmiralPandathe idea of a generalised specialist is in itself silly
01:24.44DrodoEmpireWell, they do in general but I mean its weird
01:24.45Abysswalker25Anyways, Void-Stalkers are their most dangerous. They're a bit like Spectres from ME. Except uh, more stealthy.
01:24.57TekDroidI did the "go to" and it put me 10000km from its event horizon. XD
01:25.09Abysswalker25They lack a commander shepard though
01:25.13DrodoEmpireAlso very important would be vehicles. A military without vehicles isn't much of one at all. :p
01:25.27DrodoEmpireOr at least some sort of heavy support in that way
01:25.49TekDroidDrodoEmpire: I'm now travelling to a quasar. XD
01:26.00DrodoEmpireOh my
01:26.08DrodoEmpireThat'll be fun
01:26.47TekDroidIt has a star only about 2AU from the event horizon.
01:27.04Monethttp://api.ning.com/files/Qjue*IiF3PTpfbH2-BihgjYNSSCRcKfOjoTga4ZzmwPa7JwfFCr8LPcRmMKWuxlgPVfIsyS7iCZsBefsbveNtV7O4H7vD7jN/060822N9769P105.jpg I guess it's a sign of the times when the best we have for "walking tank" style soldiers mainly have the armour to keep them alive against unexploded bombs.
01:27.27DrodoEmpire^
01:27.37AdmiralPandaThat's more because any kind of armour strong enough to actually stop a military bullet would be way too heavy and cumbersome to wear :P
01:27.44DrodoEmpireTek: TWO AU!? Cutting it pretty damn close, eh?
01:28.10MonetAdmiralPanda: Mobility is very important in today's battlefield, yeah.
01:28.22DrodoEmpireThat'd actually make for a great screenshot. Take one?
01:28.25AdmiralPandathat and, you know, the ability to walk XD
01:28.35DrodoEmpireFrom the star or better, one of its planets (if it has any)
01:28.57TekDroidDrodoEmpire: Just the mapmode near iy literally practically gave me a heart attack.
01:29.19DrodoEmpire"Literally practically"
01:29.21DrodoEmpireAnyway moving on
01:29.27DrodoEmpireHuh
01:30.14MonetSo the best way to get SPARTANS is to find out how to cerate a body armour that doesn't severely weigh a person down
01:30.36MonetAlthough given the modern battlefields are i nthe middle-east, breathability wouldn't hurt either lol
01:30.45DrodoEmpire^
01:31.00DrodoEmpire"Power Armour" has a long way to come before becoming practical.
01:31.11Technobliteratorwait, spartian is back? I thought I permabanned him :  |
01:31.12DrodoEmpireThough when it *does* its going to be quite a revolution in infantry tactics
01:31.23Technobliteratoris he evading again?
01:31.25DrodoEmpireNo, as in the supersoldier from Halo.
01:31.30TechnobliteratorOh
01:31.32Technobliteratoraw
01:31.37TechnobliteratorI wanted to hammer people
01:31.44DrodoEmpireThough it'd be *awesome* if he did come back. XD
01:32.16AdmiralPandathe funny thing is, the spartans actually gain most of their protection from their energy field
01:32.18DrodoEmpireBut really we're already in the middle of, or perhaps continuing on, an infantry revolution dating back to the 1300's.
01:33.06MonetStill, I guess some confidence can be taken in that while we don't have power armour, a soldier of today still has a much better chance of surviving and performing well compared to 40 years ago.
01:33.09TechnobliteratorI misread Spartan as Spartian
01:33.10Technobliteratorbleh
01:33.30DrodoEmpireThe infantryman has steadily gained potency and importance on the battlefield from that time; Up to the point that now that in many militaries, the infantryman is an elite specialist in their own right; Not merely the *bulk* or main line of an attacking force
01:33.39DrodoEmpire*"bulk"
01:33.47DrodoEmpireMonet: Definitely.
01:34.00Monethttps://reibert.info/attachments/10_zps3b5b0514-jpg.2768045/ ythis kind of gear still looks pretty sophisticated compared to the soldier of WWII
01:35.14DrodoEmpireDefinitely
01:36.10DrodoEmpireThe body armour, weapons, even the uniform have all advanced massively
01:36.29DrodoEmpireCan't say it looks anywhere near as nice as WWII soldier did, or before then
01:36.32AdmiralPandaI wouldn't call your regular trooper elite or a specialist because those are relative terms; and while it's true that infantry are maintaining quite an important role, the only time that wasn't the case was during the eras of tank and cavalry warfare
01:37.11DrodoEmpireI find modern uniforms and battle wear hideous; Just a conglomeration of *stuff* all over the soldier.
01:37.13MonetI do kind of fancy something similar with the DI. I imagine the Talon Ground Legions are wearing a jumpsuit interwoven with a mesh that makes it as resillient as any light body armour.
01:38.36DrodoEmpireAdmiral: Unfortunately, Tank and Cavalry warfare have been the primary modes of warfare for most of human history. :p My point is that the infantryman is better-trained and more important then it has been for many, many years.
01:38.49DrodoEmpire*Unfortunately? I dunno
01:39.04DrodoEmpire**Though? Maybe. Dunno still.
01:40.12MonetWow http://i2.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article626073.ece/alternates/s615/C_71_article_1455437_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg this was what the Riot police wore during the 2011 UK August Riots.
01:40.26AdmiralPandaI hear your point and raise you Rome, in fact basically everywhere that wasn't Mongolia or pre-SJ Japan, and most gunpowder age fighting has been infantry
01:40.56DrodoEmpireMonet: Scary shit.
01:41.01AdmiralPandanow sure you had the chivalry era knights, but at the same time as they were riding around the spear line and bowman were just as important if not as noteworthy
01:42.35DrodoEmpireAdmiralPanda: Middle-ages. Heavy cavalry dominated most of the time. Of course, the archer became more and more relevant (basically peaking at the hundred years' war), and that's what I mean by the "continuation of the infantry revolution that started in the 1300's". Of *course* the gunpowder age was dominated by the infantry
01:42.37MonetWilliam of Normandy was able to gain an upper hand at Hastings because of the mobility cavalry offered.
01:43.08MonetAnd odere http://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/980w/public/2013/10/12/955fd6e59a2add18d83ce59d9c973ac1.jpg?itok=ez1Q8m6V this is the kidn fo gear the US Army are trying to develop for thei rtroops
01:43.34AdmiralPandaAnd before the middle ages the infantryman was also dominant :P
01:43.44DrodoEmpireBut think of even the bronze age. Chariots and early cavalry absolutely controlled the battlefield. Medieval Indian armies were comprised of an experienced cavalry elite and some elephants with infantry (until the introduction of firearms) basically as filler.
01:44.29DrodoEmpireThen the tide shifted again to infantry, with Rome and Greece. And then back until now you have what seems to be perhaps a more permanent infantry revolution.
01:46.49MonetI prefer to envision DI soldiers wearing something sleek, ergonomic and potentially flexible. But also double up as a spacesuit.
01:49.19AdmiralPandaFrom what I'm reading now, up until about 400bc bronze-age greek cavalry was largely used as either transport or harrassment forces, at which point the cavalry charge was then developed. It is unknown when the hoplite phalanx formation was developed but the earliest depiction is 650bc
01:49.27AdmiralPandaso the dominant phalanx structure came first :P
01:50.50DrodoEmpireBy chariots and whatnot I meant farther east. Egypt and mesopotamia.
01:52.31AdmiralPandaIn egypt chariots were typically used to deliver the first strike to create an opening for the infantry formations to exploit
01:57.47TekDroidDrodoEmpire: I was on ome of those planets, turned around, and could still see the quasar. D:
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02:43.55Vincent20100Hey guys!
02:48.12DrodoEmpirehttp://www.telegrams.ca/
02:48.21DrodoEmpireI feel like sending a telegram for shits and giggles
03:05.24Wormy_STOsleepei time
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04:06.31Aeohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Culture Rewritten
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06:13.15TekDroid~test
06:13.17infobottest is probably not funny
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13:18.54dromSo I found Ryuujin (Spore user) again. He seems to still stick to his Iubati, but with several changes to it.
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14:33.05HachimanToday has been fucking awful
14:33.41OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
14:33.43infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
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14:35.20HachimanSpent four hours around the town looking for part-time job positions and I only managed to hand out two CVs because everywhere else was not accepting, and even then it is unlikely I will get either position because they are suspended places that will only open up if something unexpected happens
14:36.08OluapWorkerI'm sorry to hear
14:49.20dromLet's hope that the situation will improve soon.
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15:44.53Wormy_Hachi@  I've had unhappy experiences with Jobseekers
15:45.47Wormy_Like when they made me work my arse off to find any job for about a month, then closing my application bewcause I needed to wait a few months after leaving college, and doing all that for nothing
15:46.11Wormy_And it was their mistake for not telling me this ridiculous policy
15:48.50Wormy_I have a friend who was made to do this job where he had to sit in an office all day, without pay, because they didn't give anything to do
16:13.55DarcySupremestYeah job seeking sucks ass
16:14.25DarcySupremestI wish I knew about employment agancies before I got my current job
16:14.37DarcySupremestSome of them guarentee work
16:18.03dromThank god for internship and "summer jobs".
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16:46.23dromWormy_: It feels a bit uneasy by the fact that my surname is also the same name as one MLP's ponies. The only difference from my surname and the pony's name is slight.
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17:58.22XhoWell haven't played guitar in a while
17:58.37XhoGood to know I haven't lost any proficiency on it
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18:09.15dromPlaying SS13
18:10.01dromHell it went to hell quickly when the engineering blew up, an hostile lifeform released into the vents and when a traitor blew himself up in the emergency shuttle.
18:13.17dromI stayed in the bar, which then blew up few minutes after the engineering and the monster released. I was luckly to sit a table away from the explosion and only to be rescused by a black tribeman.
18:13.29dromYou heard it right, a tribeman in a space station.
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18:14.47TekDroidHello
18:14.59AeondroidIs wormy here and if so, under what name? Also, hello back.
18:15.21AeondroidI forgot how to open the list of people here on my phone.
18:15.28TekDroidIt's as Wormy_
18:15.39TekDroidDrom: O.o
18:16.31Wormy_Hi, I'm busy right now
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18:24.28XhoHas anyone seen Obama in Jamaica
18:24.44XhoHe goes "GREETINGS MASSIVE! EH, WHA GWAAN JAMAICA"
18:25.21XhoI could never see David Cameron doing that
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18:25.40XhoOr any British politician
18:25.42XhoExcept Boris perhaps
18:25.49Abysswalker25Heyo.
18:29.33XhoShould I make a flag or an emblem for the Dalmiric Kingdom
18:32.13OluapWorkery not boff
18:32.26Xhou rly think i dat motivated
18:32.38OluapWorkerThat's not really a thing we can decide for you
18:33.14XhoWell it doesn't matter, the design would eventually be identical either way
18:33.20XhoBecause I don't have a design in mind
18:34.16XhoMeh I'll do a flag since I haven't done one
18:55.24Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fa/DalmiricKingdomFlag.png/revision/latest?cb=20150410185326 blah
18:56.28OluapWorkerscribbul
18:58.00OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Merovar_Dynasty I rewrote this
19:00.35XhoI should really update that quote
19:00.41XhoThe Shiarchon are using broken Latin there
19:01.08OluapWorkerShiarchon - heers wut i think of u            hgfghdfghdfDSFJGHSDJGSDHGF
19:01.23Xho>jaw fell off
19:01.50OluapWorkerShiarchon - im officially an elder
19:02.26XhoChanged quote
19:02.38AeondroidCleanser - Does that mean your soul costs extra?
19:03.08XhoShiarchon have no souls, kinda why everything that lives hate them
19:03.37OluapWorkerSkeltasdraskeli - noice           a walkin sledgehammer
19:03.49XhoNdrhthryr - been called worse things
19:04.10AeondroidCleanser - ... Can I buy whatever you have instead of a soul then?
19:18.22XhoJust thinking about it, the Dalmiric Kingdom must have an insanely developed coastal culture
19:18.48XhoBeing one of the very few nations that actually resides next to a coast naturally
19:20.29OluapWorkerXacutus - so do i wats ur point                  no i dont know wat dis 'ship' fing is
19:20.58XhoKalarah - 4 an ancient precursor u sure r stoopid
19:21.17OluapWorkerXacutus - bro did u ever try puttin a million fire monstars in a wood ship
19:21.59XhoKalarah - dis is y u make magic ships       of darkstone
19:22.07XhoNot that the Shiarchon would do that
19:22.30XhoThey could but the fears of the matrices disengaging mid-travel would cause a few deaths
19:22.49XhoDarkstone ship sinking would go down fast
19:23.27OluapWorkerThat'd be ridiculous anyway hur
19:24.01XhoI imagine the Void Denizens of old would have had vessels to traverse the waters
19:24.08XhoThough they wouldn't be like ships
19:24.20XhoMore like animate Chimera that the denizens resided in
19:24.32XhoWhen I think about it that's pretty scary
19:25.01OluapWorkerCould just say they rode on top of marine chimera
19:25.23XhoToo conventional hur
19:26.23OluapWorkerdunt overcomplicate things
19:26.27OluapWorkergo code up
19:26.32Xhoneva
19:26.54OluapWorkerNOOOOOOOOOOH
19:27.18OluapWorkerIf you want I can code the rest up to you once I have the time
19:27.25OluapWorkerDon't really have anything else to do at the wiki right now
19:28.23XhoCould do
19:28.39OluapWorkerdunt get used to it tho
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19:28.55DrodoEmpireHey everyone
19:29.01PandaMechanicushi
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19:44.09OluapWorkerimpu
19:45.30ImperiosHi everyone
19:45.38ImperiosOluapWorker: Nice work on the Dynasty, I like
19:46.40OluapWorkerThanks
19:46.49OluapWorkerI hope they didn't come off as generic or unfitting
19:49.32ImperiosWell aside from the fact that you haven't developed their culture much, they aren't, I like them so far
19:49.41ImperiosI think the title "Racial Leader" is a bit too generic though
19:49.58OluapWorkerCouldn't really think of anything
19:49.59OluapWorkerelse
19:50.03OluapWorkerIdeas are welcome
19:50.14OluapWorkerYou also have to write about the Grypho leader dude
19:52.05ImperiosHm
19:52.09Imperios"Ethnarch"?
19:53.29OluapWorkerThat's an idea
19:53.29ImperiosSomething Turkish could work also, for some reason I generally think of Turkey when I see Merovar... "Bay", perhaps? That was the title of individual ethnic/tribal leaders in the Ottoman Empire
19:53.42OluapWorkerBay
19:53.47OluapWorkerEh
19:53.57OluapWorkerMakes it sound like they're ports instead of people hur
19:53.59ImperiosExplosion Leaders
19:54.05OluapWorkeroolol
19:54.23ImperiosWell it can be written "Bey" too I think
19:54.25DrodoEmpireImp: Wasn't it "Bey"?
19:54.28DrodoEmpireYeah
19:54.32OluapWorkerBeh
19:54.59OluapWorkerThe ruler of Gryphosphinxes, Beh Onouphrios
19:55.01ImperiosOluapWorker: Funny thing is, the Turkish court was actually called "Sublime Porte" in French and English
19:55.27OluapWorkerhur
19:55.45OluapWorkerI have no idea how turkish people are or act like so I can't tell whether they resemble the Dynasty or not
19:56.43ImperiosWell, huge, multiethnic but relatively tolerant, and also highly religious, and uber-rich, these are all Turkish things
19:57.03ImperiosAlso "Sultan" is a mostly Ottoman term
19:57.34Hachimaninb4 allah ackbar
19:57.36OluapWorkerThe Dynasty has a sultan because Aladdin had a sultan hur
19:57.47ImperiosHur
19:58.04OluapWorkerBut I can see what you mean
19:58.18ImperiosAladdin is Abbasid-era Arabia I think
19:58.44HachimanI hear some people proclaim that Aladdin is set in a post-apocalyptic future
19:58.57OluapWorkerThese people are also retarded
19:59.04HachimanSince Genie has knowledge of modern day culture and figures
19:59.09OluapWorkerCulture-wise I really don't have much to say about it because I'm yet to develop it. Right now they're restricted to "greedy merchants"
19:59.20ImperiosIn fact ther actually was an Abbasid-era vizier called Jafar
19:59.41OluapWorkerKhensu - very nice gold goy
19:59.56Imperiosohgod Jewrovar hur
20:00.12OluapWorkerJavina - CLEANSE THE MEROVAR
20:00.21ImperiosREMOVE MEROVAR FROM THE PREMISES
20:00.44OluapWorkerNow I imagine a Remove Kebab, Koldenwelt edition
20:01.08ImperiosNow we only have to decide who is kebab
20:01.15ImperiosMerovar, Alhassans or Khaepsha
20:01.21OluapWorkerShiarchon - EVERYONE
20:01.38Imperioshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja%27far_ibn_Yahya That dude was the real Jafar
20:02.18OluapWorker(767–803)
20:02.19OluapWorkerDAT OLD
20:02.23OluapWorker-caps
20:02.56ImperiosEarly Middle Ages I think
20:03.07Imperios>He had a reputation as a patron of the sciences, and did much to introduce Indian science into Baghdad. He was credited with convincing the caliph to open a paper mill in Baghdad, the secret of papermaking having been obtained from Chinese prisoners at the Battle of Talas (in present day Kyrgyzstan) in 751
20:03.17Imperiosnerd
20:03.40OluapWorkerHe's Jafar so he's cool
20:05.32ImperiosAnd the guy he advised was the Arab leader from Civ V
20:06.18OluapWorkerI've been wanting to play Civ all day
20:06.26OluapWorkerDon't know why but I really want tio
20:06.28OluapWorkerto
20:06.42ImperiosPlay as Arabs and rename your capital to "Agrabah"
20:06.48OluapWorkerhur
20:07.38OluapWorkerI still don't know if I like the whole city-state mechanic
20:07.41OluapWorkerIt seems annoying
20:08.19ImperiosIt does until you ally them and they give you superpowered black Zulu soldiers
20:08.25ImperiosThat's how I won as Arabs
20:08.33OluapWorkerhur
20:08.50OluapWorkerAlso barbarians got changed so much
20:08.58ImperiosMy strategy was basically "get money + get faith + ally everyone"
20:09.06ImperiosAt the end like 90% of the world was Muslim
20:09.30ImperiosAnd I was rich as fuck because all these Muslim cities gave me money
20:09.54OluapWorkeryes good goys, we are muslims
20:10.20ImperiosMuslims are goys by definition hur
20:11.02ImperiosHm about Turkey, they had a rather interesting way of forming armies
20:11.05OluapWorkerI tried one game as VOTE FOR PEDRO II but I realized Archipelago was a bad idea for a map
20:11.18OluapWorkerEverything is tiny and you can barely do anything
20:11.22ImperiosYeah it is, until you are England
20:11.27ImperiosThen you can tophat the world to death
20:11.38OluapWorkerKlaxxa - our master plan
20:11.41ImperiosYep
20:12.17ImperiosI played as Catherine but then Japan stabbed me in the back and I died
20:12.24ImperiosKoreans are OP though
20:12.29OluapWorkerI remember playing Civ IV all the time as Montezuma because he ignored anarchy
20:12.36OluapWorkerMontezuma was sanic-mode
20:12.41ImperiosI had giant robots when my enemies had lancers
20:13.04OluapWorker"BEST KOREA STRONK"
20:13.36ImperiosEssentially
20:13.51OluapWorkerMontezula actually looks intimidating in V
20:14.59ImperiosHe is a bit creepy
20:15.14ImperiosShaka is more intimidating though
20:15.25OluapWorkerShaka
20:15.27OluapWorkerwho dat again
20:15.33ImperiosThe black guy
20:15.37OluapWorkerhur
20:15.44OluapWorkerThere's more than one black guy in this game
20:15.46XhoXimicacan
20:15.59ImperiosThe naked one
20:16.03XhoThe Zulus in general are scary as fuck in Civ V
20:16.08XhoUntil later game
20:16.09ImperiosNot the one in the suit and not the one with a turban
20:16.21Imperioshttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/4oIoP_gB-rc/maxresdefault.jpg Him
20:16.37OluapWorkerah
20:16.47OluapWorkerElephant skellies
20:16.57Imperios2spookt
20:17.14HachimanElephant skulls look weird
20:17.24OluapWorkerIt looks like they have one eye
20:17.26OluapWorkerLike Sonic
20:17.46HachimanI one heard somebody suggest that tales of Cyclopes came about when Greeks saw elephant skulls and had no explanation for them
20:18.07OluapWorkerHuh
20:18.08ImperiosYa
20:18.11OluapWorkerI can see the resemblance
20:18.13Tek0516That actually makes a lot of sense.
20:18.30OluapWorkerI often see depictions of cyclopi with elephant-like tusks
20:20.18ImperiosI'm currently trying higher difficulty levels
20:20.59OluapWorkerI never played anything harder than easiest because i'm a huge scrub who's afraid of war hur
20:21.31XhoHarald Bluetooth sounds like a Sim I have to say
20:21.39Hachiman>not playing on hardest difficulty   >saying you play games
20:21.41HachimanPick one kek
20:22.01OluapWorkerSya
20:22.14OluapWorkerSays the one got stuck on basarios
20:22.17OluapWorkerget lost kiddo
20:22.18Imperioshur
20:22.43ImperiosI like how Civ V music is based on ethnic motives
20:22.58ImperiosHearing Korean and Russian music was a big "oh shit I know this" moment for me
20:23.23OluapWorkerMeanwhile Pedro II's war theme is something out of a James Bond movie
20:24.22OluapWorkerBrazilian supervillains, spreading the hue until the whole world submits
20:24.31ImperiosThat's actually odd because its tune is straight from a Brazilian festival song AFAIK
20:24.32ImperiosIs it?
20:24.46OluapWorkerI don't hear brazilian music so I don't know hur
20:24.53OluapWorkerlisten to*
20:24.54XhoNebuchadnezzar has a throat infection
20:25.45ImperiosRussian war music is an Orthodox chorus chanting Pushkin over a tune from Russian ballet
20:25.59ImperiosThat's basically over-the-top Russianness
20:26.43Charles_MurrayIn a good way, or bad way? xD
20:29.40ImperiosCool-sounding but odd
20:29.44ImperiosImagine a Catholic chorus was chanting Victor Hugo over a Jean-Baptiste Lully
20:29.55Imperios*Jean-Baptiste Lully ballet
20:29.56OluapWorker"We were defeated, so this makes me your prisoner. I suppose there are worse fates."
20:30.00OluapWorkerur leader is a slut
20:30.06ImperiosHer Slutness yep
20:30.19ImperiosWhat makes it interesting is that her dialogue is identical regardless of gender
20:30.24ImperiosOf your leader I mean
20:30.35OluapWorkerI'm sure you enjoy that huyr
20:30.57ImperiosWu Zetian + Catherine = lesbian alliance of doom
20:31.08ImperiosGandhi, Shaka and Pedro are conscripted along the way to create BRICS
20:32.10OluapWorkerBRICS proceeds to angrily nuke everyone
20:32.34Imperios...And everyone else died
20:32.45ImperiosLeaving only two of us on this website
20:32.52ImperiosAnd that Chinese guy
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20:33.16OluapWorker~slap Cyrannian
20:33.16infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:33.25Cyrannian~slap OluapWorker
20:33.25infobotACTION slaps OluapWorker, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:33.43XhoHachiman: That new form is actually called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan
20:33.45ImperiosMeanwhile Cyrannian's country's leader is an angry tatooed ginger with a sword
20:33.51Xhogoddammit dragon ball stahp dis
20:33.55ImperiosWho converts everyone else to her religion
20:34.01PandaMechanicusfunnily enough I rarely have a problem with wars in Civ because I usually play Babylon and the ultimate tank wall begins
20:34.02CyrannianWait what now
20:34.03OluapWorkerI met her on my game
20:34.04HachimanYep
20:34.07OluapWorkerI thought she was cute hur
20:34.10ImperiosWe're discussing Civilization V
20:34.40ImperiosWhere your country (mashed together with Wales and Scotland) is represented by Boudicca
20:35.00OluapWorkerI tried to be friends with her but she downright refused to accept a declaration of friendship
20:35.15PandaMechanicus*coughs loudly* And where exactly does that put Elizabeth?
20:35.33PandaMechanicusBoudicca is the Celts, yes, but England is represented by Elizabeth
20:36.38OluapWorkerMeanwhile Hiawatha was like <33333 to me even though I barely ever talked to him
20:36.38ImperiosYep, but Cyrannian isn't English
20:36.53PandaMechanicusOluapWorker: Hiawatha is buddies with everyone
20:37.10ImperiosBoudicca was a bitch in my game
20:37.16ImperiosI was in a middle of a war with Americans
20:37.17CyrannianI have Civ V installed but I haven't played it in a while.
20:37.29DrodoEmpire^
20:37.35ImperiosThen out of nowhere she attacked and took over my coastal cities
20:37.36ImperiosBitch
20:37.52OluapWorkerBoudicca - out of burger, heer in com
20:38.04ImperiosAt least I conquered the burgers
20:38.06CyrannianDo you guys play multiplayer games?
20:38.17PandaMechanicusI play multiplayer games, just not with these scrubs
20:38.23ImperiosMostly pleb ones
20:38.27OluapWorkerMy game is a pirated version so I can't
20:38.30XhoI haven't played it in a while
20:38.35XhoAnd I suck
20:38.43XhoMan do I suck at strategy games
20:39.00XhoYou can tell how I play games when I prefer games that don't require thought
20:39.17PandaMechanicusAs I said, my play style is mostly Babylon, sit behind walls, win by a long shot because nobody can breach the glorious walls when I'm usually a full tech tier ahead of everyone
20:40.13OluapWorkerI spend my time getting bullied by barbarians and ignoring everyone around me because as far as I'm aware everyone is a dick
20:40.22dromSS13 is hella of fun
20:40.30PandaMechanicusThat's because everyone is a dick
20:40.47PandaMechanicuseveryone except the almighty Doge, that guy's cool no matter who you are
20:41.07OluapWorkerTruly a testament of how welcoming and nice humankind is
20:41.57dromHm I should consider reinstalling CIV 5
20:42.29Xhohttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11138563_457356457755047_3220430172825427956_n.jpg?oh=713d52636c57f6e0720e4774076b0f69&oe=559B1E3C
20:42.47PandaMechanicusearly game (as in the only time Babylon is vulnerable ever) you have the Walls of Babylon, so you're practically uncapturable if you have at least a decent military force
20:42.47OluapWorkerhur
20:43.59PandaMechanicusand by mid-late game you have so much better tech that nobody can touch you anyway
20:44.15dromThis applies to Korea as well.
20:44.32ImperiosYes Koreans are essentially the same
20:45.37PandaMechanicusyou do not have glorious walls of babylon though
20:45.46PandaMechanicusso Rome will come and take your shit before you get established :P
20:46.51Hachiman"I was just at an ATM and an old lady asked me to check her balance. So I pushed her over."
20:47.12ImperiosBut then walls of Babylon get useless later
20:47.21ImperiosAnd Korea gets grorious Hwachas
20:47.37ImperiosHwaiting for your death
20:49.28PandaMechanicusHwachas are useless against walls in general, and they mean little when I have such glorious technologies
20:49.41PandaMechanicusbeing a whole tech tier above people is not to be laughed at
20:51.04ImperiosYou misunderstood me a bit
20:51.23ImperiosHwachas are defensive weapons, i.e they serve the same purpose as WoB
20:51.45PandaMechanicusno I get what you're saying, but Hwachas phase out too
20:52.20ImperiosAnd Korea is on par with Babylon in terms of tech I think
20:52.54PandaMechanicusBabylon has earlier start and faster scaling, late-game they end up similar
20:53.11PandaMechanicusso for the majority of the game Babylon will be ahead of them
20:54.01ImperiosTrue
20:55.14PandaMechanicusthis is of course Babylon's weakness, in that they can actually out-research their ability to build stuff, but with the walls and bowmen you can defend yourself for long enough to make up for it
20:56.27ImperiosTrue
20:56.42ImperiosHaven't played as Babylon myself, should try it
20:57.00ImperiosI heard that Ethiopia is rather powerful in higher difficulty games
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20:57.17PandaMechanicusyeah Ethiopia is one of the upper tier factiions
20:57.45TheWolfieEmpire*welcomes self*
20:57.49PandaMechanicusbasically you stack up really high on a small number of cities for most of the game, then when you have a proper military you go around and wreck zergs
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20:58.51ImperiosI try to go cultural
20:59.24Imperios+ religion since that is Ethiopia's strong side
20:59.38PandaMechanicusI either go technology or money
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21:16.27Wormy_awayhi
21:16.30DrodoEmpireHey Monet
21:16.34MonetHello
21:16.44Wormy_awayWell, physical realism in Maya is not easy
21:17.16Wormy_awayEven a simple simulation of this is has taken me hours http://d32ogoqmya1dw8.cloudfront.net/images/NAGTWorkshops/sedimentary/images/formation_cross-beds.gif
21:18.46Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz-mTQqesrU
21:19.31Wormy_awayPart of the problem with Maya dyamics is that the physics simulation is built to be intuitive, and real physics is anything but.
21:20.10Wormy_awayStill, thats where scripting and perseverance come in
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21:27.29HachimanHello again
21:30.47Monet_PC Gamer crashed my browser.
21:31.16HachimanIronic
21:46.30ImperiosGah, found a video that condemns Doctor Who as immoral because it features a lesbian couple
21:46.54HachimanLesbian grannies
21:47.07ImperiosNotably, when I tried to argue against the notions of the video, its authors and supporters started swearing at me, now who's moral :P
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21:58.41The_Randomnesswhy hello there
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22:01.11ImpyDroidhonk
22:01.17The_Randomnesshonk
22:06.18Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Magellanic_Reich So are they German or
22:06.43HachimanOh wait this is fucking gold
22:06.45Hachiman"Albert von Manstein"
22:06.48Hachiman>Manstein
22:07.21HachimanPro-humanocentric organisation with a leader called Manstein
22:07.26HachimanI love it hur
22:07.44The_Randomnessheh, I'll have to take a look
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22:16.46AdmiralPandaon main comp now
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22:22.52Hachiman"An entirely new species of monkey has been identified, based on its bizarre-looking penis."
22:22.55HachimanWell then
22:23.57The_Randomnessk
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22:26.18The_RandomnessHey
22:26.43GD12hi
22:30.57Wormy_awayhi
22:57.32Technobliteratorthere haven't been many edits today
23:04.01The_Randomnessyeah
23:04.24HachimanSlow day
23:07.55TechnobliteratorI intend to make a few tomorrow, since I'll be away from home and hhave nothing but a tablet
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23:10.43The_RandomnessHey Monet
23:10.59MonetHello
23:12.08HachimanHai
23:49.02Hachiman~test
23:49.03infoboti heard test is not funny
23:49.07HachimanHm right
23:53.07Aeo~give the Cleanser your soul.
23:53.08infobotACTION gives Cleanser your soul. to the
23:54.07AeoMy soul was just given away by a robot.
23:55.51Hachimankek
23:58.46HachimanThe Cleanser must be some sorta pansy if he needs an external power source to keep himself strong even though he has Essence powers
23:59.09AeoHe doesn't need it to keep himself strong. He uses it to be even stronger.

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