| 00:01.00 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, thanks ^.^ I dunno if you know much about Top Gear but it was a partial spoof on that |
| 00:01.18 | OluapPlayer | I know it's a show about cars |
| 00:01.24 | Technobliterator | I imagine Naktor'zak as seriously insane since, well, he's spent a few centuries stuck in a tanm |
| 00:01.27 | Technobliterator | tank* |
| 00:01.40 | Technobliterator | I wasn't sure if using the Herame was the correct thing to do |
| 00:01.48 | OluapPlayer | Well that's kinda the only wrong thing in the section |
| 00:01.53 | OluapPlayer | Naktor's like 30 or so |
| 00:02.15 | OluapPlayer | He's supposed to be the youngest of the Warbosses after Ray'loth |
| 00:02.21 | Technobliterator | Oh. Eh, it might feel like centuries to him though |
| 00:02.28 | OluapPlayer | Might do |
| 00:02.43 | OluapPlayer | It helps make him act dramatic anyway |
| 00:02.46 | OluapPlayer | No biggie |
| 00:02.48 | Technobliterator | Mhm |
| 00:03.10 | Technobliterator | I might do Zalk'don's next or something, I'm not sure |
| 00:03.45 | OluapPlayer | I was interested in doing Zalk'don |
| 00:03.47 | OluapPlayer | But if you want go ahead |
| 00:04.15 | Technobliterator | Oh, you can do it instead if you like |
| 00:04.26 | Technobliterator | I have no major preference as to whose I do next |
| 00:04.54 | OluapPlayer | You could get Grak'tona or Gol'thabex done |
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| 00:05.39 | Wood | Yo |
| 00:05.44 | Wood | wait |
| 00:05.54 | Wood_Pulp | There we go |
| 00:06.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 00:06.11 | Technobliterator | Yeah, see, I'd have done those first as I have the most ideas for those, but I wasn't sure if it was best to do Warbosses first and Leedas after |
| 00:06.12 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 00:06.16 | Wood_Pulp | Apparently spaces don't work in IRC nicknames |
| 00:06.29 | OluapPlayer | I don't think it matters much |
| 00:06.33 | OluapPlayer | Just as long as Fre'kloar is last |
| 00:07.21 | Technobliterator | Fair enough |
| 00:07.35 | Technobliterator | Are you planning on doing Brag'klogga's? |
| 00:08.06 | Technobliterator | I imagined his being related to his normal Loron self somehow |
| 00:08.31 | Technobliterator | the one who was killed by Fre'kloar in Da Rebellion |
| 00:10.49 | OluapPlayer | Not really no |
| 00:10.55 | OluapPlayer | You can have him if you want |
| 00:12.35 | OluapPlayer | Me and Hachi are currently writting Knar'gank's section. Or at least we'll try and get it done today as I'm having to use a laptop with limited battery |
| 00:14.18 | Technobliterator | Oooh, nice :o |
| 00:14.26 | Technobliterator | I'm reading Da Rebellion atm |
| 00:14.29 | Technobliterator | I got nostalgic |
| 00:14.37 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 00:14.45 | OluapPlayer | All those bareboned descriptions |
| 00:14.48 | Technobliterator | Da Saga is one of the few fictions I can say I'm really proud of writing |
| 00:15.05 | Technobliterator | see, bareboned descriptions makes sense for Loron fiction |
| 00:15.14 | Technobliterator | It's more about the dialogue and the humour |
| 00:15.14 | OluapPlayer | I like my Loron meaty hur |
| 00:15.32 | OluapPlayer | And yeah Da Saga was fun to write |
| 00:16.07 | Technobliterator | Second Borealis War we did a decent job on. That and Da Saga are among the few fictions I'm really proud of. Others are just meh filler. |
| 00:21.45 | Technobliterator | ahahahahaha |
| 00:21.55 | Technobliterator | kal'kuir's section makes me lol |
| 00:22.17 | OluapPlayer | hur I'm glad it does |
| 00:27.20 | Technobliterator | In hindsight, Jol'kiar probably could've made Da Rogue Boyz waaay before Fre'kloar did. Looking at Da Rebellion now, it seems to have started with Fre'kloar being a spoilt child, more or less. |
| 00:27.47 | Technobliterator | But come to think of it, given that this is the Loron we're talking about, yeah that...kinda fits |
| 00:29.25 | Technobliterator | It's funny how quickly Knar'gank switched sides |
| 00:29.27 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 00:29.36 | Technobliterator | All things considered, he's surprisingly loyal :o |
| 00:29.40 | OluapPlayer | Knar'gank - cant be dealin with dis |
| 00:31.11 | OluapPlayer | Just a question |
| 00:31.22 | OluapPlayer | Did you watch that Batman movie, the one with Bane? |
| 00:31.34 | Technobliterator | Yup! |
| 00:31.43 | Technobliterator | I watched it about 4 times or so |
| 00:31.48 | OluapPlayer | That's good, because Knar's section has a reference to it hur |
| 00:33.52 | Technobliterator | oooooh nice |
| 00:33.57 | Technobliterator | I love Bane references |
| 00:35.41 | Technobliterator | Huh, I forgot that Rel'larutina knew Zaarkhun on a personal level |
| 00:36.01 | Technobliterator | Also, she was far, far more tolerant of the Loron back then... |
| 00:36.14 | OluapPlayer | Of course she was, she's a Norol |
| 00:36.24 | Technobliterator | wait, wasn't she an unnamed Norol until we retconned to make that Norol her? |
| 00:36.49 | Technobliterator | oh, and then there's the whole Norol being less nice when they get older thing too |
| 00:37.06 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 00:37.08 | OluapPlayer | To both |
| 00:45.08 | Technobliterator | ok, I do have to like how stubbornly Loron stick to their traditions |
| 00:45.26 | Technobliterator | But then, I guess none of them are bright enough to really oppose them |
| 00:46.52 | Technobliterator | ahahahaha |
| 00:47.07 | Technobliterator | jol'kiar and fre'kloar's last words to each other |
| 00:50.17 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Publishing now |
| 00:50.26 | Technobliterator | :O |
| 00:50.42 | Hachiman | It's great |
| 00:50.45 | Hachiman | It's fucking great |
| 00:51.22 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Ice_Cube_Trials#Knar.27gank:_Green_and_Purple |
| 00:51.25 | Technobliterator | Did you TitanPad it :o |
| 00:52.08 | Hachiman | yee nao reed |
| 00:52.31 | Technobliterator | rofl |
| 00:52.46 | Technobliterator | going from Da Rebellion to Da Ice Cube Trials |
| 00:54.49 | Technobliterator | suddenly so much more text |
| 00:55.39 | OluapPlayer | shup reed |
| 00:55.41 | Technobliterator | oh my god the bane reference |
| 00:55.45 | Technobliterator | hahahahahahahahahaha |
| 00:57.58 | Technobliterator | oh my god |
| 00:58.04 | Technobliterator | there are two bane references |
| 00:58.24 | Hachiman | There are a few actually hur |
| 00:59.06 | Technobliterator | phahahaha |
| 00:59.08 | Technobliterator | the ending |
| 00:59.14 | Technobliterator | phahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 00:59.21 | Technobliterator | I love it |
| 00:59.25 | Technobliterator | ahahahahahahaha |
| 01:00.23 | Hachiman | I had a lot of fun writing it |
| 01:01.51 | Technobliterator | This fiction is officially the best idea Oluap ever had |
| 01:02.05 | Technobliterator | I do not regret making the Loron at all |
| 01:06.00 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 01:06.24 | OluapPlayer | hur I'm glad you liked it |
| 01:06.33 | OluapPlayer | I did it all for the Baneposting hur |
| 01:07.06 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbb_m88eapI have more Bane |
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| 01:37.09 | Patriot868 | Hello |
| 01:38.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hey patriot |
| 01:38.58 | Patriot868 | whats up |
| 01:40.28 | DrodoEmpire | Not much/ |
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| 02:26.36 | Hachiman | It was a ruse |
| 02:26.40 | Hachiman | I am not really away |
| 02:26.48 | Hachiman | Just on a laptop in bed hur |
| 02:26.58 | DrodoEmpire | :o |
| 02:28.07 | Hachiman | Gonna take a while to update all of the relevant Zazane stuff |
| 02:28.17 | Hachiman | And revise and add it all |
| 02:32.24 | Hachiman | Aeo: Do you still do that Riffrex stuff? |
| 02:32.51 | Aeo | He's still around. I'd consider doing another review with him. |
| 02:33.20 | Hachiman | Well I have updated and revised Hachiman's page since his review of him |
| 02:33.26 | Hachiman | As in, significantly |
| 02:33.36 | Hachiman | A complete overhaul, if you will |
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| 03:31.56 | Aeo | I've gotten the idea to create a saterical empire based on the tropes and cliches on this wiki. |
| 03:32.04 | Aeo | It'd never be used. It'd just be a joke. |
| 03:32.35 | Knight_Alien | Da Mlg Imperium of dankhood. |
| 03:33.25 | Aeo | I was going to go with "The Edgelords of Demicath" |
| 03:42.05 | Aeo | The Edgelords of Demicath are a medium-sized Empire located in the Milky Way galaxy. They are known throughout the galaxy for their extremely contradictory and confused attitude towards absolutely everything. No one has managed to make a lick of sense of anything theyâve ever done. One second theyâre saving the universe and one second theyâre committing mass genocide. As far as anyone can tell, they do both for no reason whatso |
| 03:42.44 | Aeo | ==Military== The entire point of the Demicathian military is to balance the âscales of grimdarkâ in the heart of their home planet. To do this, they must commit sufficient numbers of heroic and horrifying acts. The previous statement at the top of this page that they do these things for no reason whatsoever is probably the result of a ret-con that the user hasnât bothered to edit the wiki in correspondence to. Who the fuck know |
| 03:43.48 | Aeo | âSomething⦠enigmatic⦠and vague with⦠lots of⦠ellipsesâ¦â - The Xhodocto |
| 04:10.27 | Charles_Murray | Nobody agrees with you that they're cliché. o.o I'm not sure you understand our fictions if you're making such innacurate generalizations about them. |
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| 04:32.16 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 04:33.26 | Abysswalker | Hey. |
| 04:36.20 | Charles_Murray | Hey! |
| 05:09.04 | Abysswalker | Suppose it is time to write up a page. Im gonna look at some others for inspiriation on how to list things. Anyone have links that might help? |
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| 05:15.21 | Aeo | Abysswalker: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix or any other page. You can just copy the format. |
| 05:17.35 | Abysswalker | Thanks. |
| 05:21.37 | drom | Hello |
| 05:21.46 | Abysswalker | Hello jim. |
| 05:27.35 | drom | Life's too short for IRC now. See ya. |
| 05:55.18 | Abysswalker | All hail (Empire name here)! |
| 06:17.35 | TekDroid | I really love how much of a political mess I made the structure of Farengeto. XD |
| 06:18.35 | TekDroid | For example, see this chart: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/ce/FTC_infographic.png/revision/latest?cb=20150319024513 |
| 06:20.27 | Aeo | I've seen almost the same chart about the EU |
| 06:20.42 | TekDroid | That was the inspiration |
| 06:23.20 | TekDroid | All kinds of wierdness not visible too. For instance, the Quadrant colonies are both territories of the Farengeto, and a separate member state. And the Cyrannian colonies have their capital and half their territory in the Milky Way but are considered "extragalactic" |
| 06:23.36 | TekDroid | *Farengeto Republic |
| 06:25.10 | Aeo | Will the Farengeto's atheism be at all dented by the Aeoneonatrix dissapearing for 15+ years and reappearing on the other side of the galaxy? |
| 06:25.33 | Aeo | That's kind of a "Yeah, the Cleanser exists," moment. |
| 06:27.03 | Abysswalker | Does the fictionverse use the same 'Galactic Code' as spore? Like.. no super weapons that destroy planets or stars? |
| 06:27.13 | Abysswalker | Just making sure. |
| 06:27.55 | Aeo | The fictionverse hasn't had anything to do with spore since 2009. |
| 06:28.02 | Aeo | So, no. |
| 06:28.07 | TekDroid | By that point they'd be well aware of Essence though, having had extensive contact with the intergalactic ongoings. It might stir up up a pro-Cleanser movement, especially in central Delcath. |
| 06:29.00 | TekDroid | The Sudal Accords probably would have some clause amended in that might cause problems for it. |
| 06:30.18 | TekDroid | The Sudal Accords being a controversial anti-religious treaty created to fight the Gargator and religious extremists. Plus a bit extra. |
| 06:31.29 | Aeo | Cleanser - Fuk ur treaty. Missionary party. |
| 06:31.51 | Aeo | Missionaries - *Rave* |
| 06:37.20 | TekDroid | Though it doesn't ban missionaries or practicing religion, it does ban foreign missionaries within territory of an Accords nation. Part of that Gargator-induced anti-religious stuff. |
| 06:38.47 | Aeo | Does the Cleanser himself count as a foreign missionary? |
| 06:39.01 | Aeo | Also, does the Mardor Merchant Republic have its own page? |
| 06:39.41 | TekDroid | That got retconned out. OfficerJackal has many short-lived Katarian fictions. XD |
| 06:41.33 | Aeo | What one needs to keep in mind is that the Mardor will never really want to not torture people. It'd be like all humans swearing off sex. |
| 06:44.56 | TekDroid | For now Mardor are basically just a highly autonomous state within the FTC that has no voting rights in the greater Coalition. |
| 06:48.03 | Abysswalker | Let them vote. I don't know who they are but alien rights! |
| 06:49.14 | TekDroid | They're genocidal maniacs. |
| 06:54.02 | Aeo | False. |
| 06:54.13 | Aeo | They are SLAVERS and TORTURERS. |
| 06:54.24 | Aeo | They've only committed genocide once. |
| 06:55.48 | Aeo | They feel orgasmic pleasure from the act of seeing another person in suffering. This led them to the policy of capturing members of lesser races, including the Aeoneonatrix for 12 years, and torturing them for recreational purposes. |
| 07:05.56 | Aeo | abysswalker Tekdroid |
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| 08:46.41 | Abysswalker | Whew.. |
| 08:46.57 | Abysswalker | After Religion, I think I need millitary and culture. |
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| 09:41.58 | Abysswalker | Hello hello. |
| 09:42.09 | Ghelae | ~give Hachiman a cookie |
| 09:42.09 | infobot | ACTION gives Hachiman a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
| 09:42.45 | Hachiman | <3 |
| 09:44.16 | Abysswalker | I'm almost done.. |
| 09:44.25 | Abysswalker | Alllllmooooooost |
| 09:59.14 | Abysswalker | And there |
| 09:59.17 | Abysswalker | urguehrguierh |
| 10:00.32 | Abysswalker | I don't suppose any of you might be interested in reading my page? Telling me if I should change anything? |
| 10:03.21 | Ghelae | I've read it. It seems fine so far, although stylistically it doesn't need so many line breaks between sections. |
| 10:07.55 | Abysswalker | Ah. That's just me lol. |
| 10:22.09 | Abysswalker | Well, if it has any issues I'll solve them later since it is pretty late. |
| 10:25.23 | Abysswalker | Goodbye for now. |
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| 10:51.08 | ImpyDroid | ~dominate Hachiman |
| 10:51.17 | ImpyDroid | ...hm |
| 10:51.31 | ImpyDroid | ~strike Hachiman |
| 10:51.46 | ImpyDroid | Ah whatever |
| 10:52.43 | Hachiman | kek |
| 10:52.52 | Hachiman | One thing that is gonna annoy me about the Zazane |
| 10:53.10 | Hachiman | I never integrated a good naming convention or language system for them |
| 10:53.17 | Hachiman | Everything is just random guttural/rough words |
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| 11:02.14 | Hachiman | Goddammit server timeout |
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| 11:17.27 | Hachiman | Hai again, had to restart |
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| 11:39.20 | Wormy_ | hello |
| 11:39.42 | Hachiman | Hai Wormy |
| 11:40.49 | drom | I regret picking chicken kebab for lunch today. |
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| 11:49.26 | drom | Did I miss anything since my last line? |
| 11:50.27 | Hachiman | Nope |
| 11:50.31 | Hachiman | Nobody responded |
| 11:51.01 | drom | Alright, good for me then. |
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| 12:02.26 | OluapWorker | hai |
| 12:02.44 | Hachiman | ~cuddle OluapWorker |
| 12:02.44 | infobot | ACTION grabs OluapWorker and cuddles until OluapWorker begs for mercy |
| 12:03.08 | OluapWorker | <3 |
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| 13:07.21 | Technobliterator | I can't remember whose Ice Cube Trials section I was doing next again |
| 13:09.52 | OluapWorker | Grak or Gol |
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| 13:25.34 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 14:00.07 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 14:00.55 | Monet | hello |
| 14:00.58 | Hachiman | Hai |
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| 14:07.31 | Technobliterator | ok I'll head to the gym in a bit then write the section |
| 14:07.40 | OluapWorker | didnt even start |
| 14:07.45 | OluapWorker | ya so useless |
| 14:07.53 | Technobliterator | ya dad |
| 14:09.52 | Wormy_away | This documents is 24 pages long and I'm not even half way done |
| 14:11.54 | Wormy_away | If you wanna know why there is no fiction from me |
| 14:16.08 | drom | I'm supposed to eat, then finish a 3-4 page analyse of two books (~200 pages each) and the author. But right now the chicken kebab has commited terrorism in my intestines. |
| 14:17.30 | Wormy_away | hur |
| 14:18.05 | drom | The analyse is about the rethorical writing and construction of the books and why it is popular among the target audience, and I'm terrible on rethorical analyse. |
| 14:18.11 | Wormy_away | Basically I've got to fit all my research and work does over the past year |
| 14:18.17 | Wormy_away | *done |
| 14:22.09 | Hachiman | http://www.randyscottslavin.com/alternate-perspectives-1/ These photographs holy shit |
| 14:24.25 | Wormy_away | Yes I love different focus of perspective |
| 14:25.21 | drom | 360° panormas. |
| 14:25.55 | Wormy_away | these are insane http://termespheres.com/6-point-perspective/ |
| 14:25.56 | drom | But rotated on the horizontional axis as opposed to vertical. |
| 14:26.27 | drom | Hm these are interesting. |
| 14:27.26 | Wormy_away | It reminds me of what you'd see just before passing through an Event Horizon |
| 14:28.38 | Wormy_away | http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/index.html |
| 14:30.54 | drom | Wormy_away. I'm having trouble to try to comprehend the black holes' simulation meshes. |
| 14:32.03 | drom | Like this one. http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/bhi.gif |
| 14:32.16 | Wormy_away | That is the side effect of our biology matrix, which had evolved purely for Savannah matters |
| 14:32.54 | Wormy_away | http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/4dperspective.html |
| 14:33.10 | Wormy_away | I always give the DCP's craft that description when at sublight |
| 14:38.49 | Wormy_away | What I struggle to comprehend is the raw energy within a black hole |
| 14:39.25 | Wormy_away | Read "Penrose diagram illustrating the cause of mass inflation" http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/realistic.html |
| 14:39.57 | Wormy_away | It is surely the most furious thing the human mind has yet to have concieved |
| 14:41.41 | Wormy_away | "The black hole particle accelerator easily reaches and exceeds energies comparable to those in the Big Bang. What does Nature do with such a machine?" |
| 14:42.02 | AdmiralPanda | "The hypothetical perfect Predator game is basically Arkham Asylum without the moral sensibility after Batman kisses an angle-grinder" |
| 14:42.16 | AdmiralPanda | Yahtzee Croshaw, everybody |
| 14:42.19 | Hachiman | olol |
| 14:42.33 | Hachiman | To be fair Arkham Asylum-style Predator game would be nice |
| 14:47.43 | AdmiralPanda | just re-watched his Alien vs Predator review and he basically described the entire predator campaign as a shittier version of Arkham Asylum |
| 14:52.05 | Hachiman | The Alien campaign was seizure simulator |
| 14:52.23 | Hachiman | Only good part for me was the Marine campaign and even then that is mediocre |
| 14:53.53 | drom | Wormy_away: The Reissner-Nordström black hole is a interesting type. |
| 14:53.55 | drom | http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/rn_waterfall_s.gif |
| 14:57.52 | Wormy_away | For me its the Penrose diagrams http://jila.colorado.edu/~ajsh/insidebh/penrose.html |
| 14:58.19 | Wormy_away | Roger Penrose doodles mathematical physics for fun |
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| 15:03.11 | drom | Interesting |
| 15:03.13 | drom | hello |
| 15:05.06 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 15:05.15 | drom | Looks the chicken kebab got bored of terrorizing my intestines now. |
| 15:05.29 | Aeo | Hi |
| 15:06.11 | Wormy_away | These things can "blow up" spacetime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pp-wave_spacetime |
| 15:07.13 | Ghel | Are you specifically referring to the "wave of death" there? |
| 15:08.02 | Wormy_away | Yeah, the one OA has http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/5062fd4d7f5cb |
| 15:11.39 | Wormy_away | Waves of death, mass inflation, and maybe cosmic string intersections are the most destructive things I can think of |
| 15:12.09 | Wormy_away | then black hole mergers and gamma ray bursts |
| 15:12.40 | Comrade_Vinny | *Wormy_away: Composeed Interests |
| 15:12.46 | Wormy_away | Hypermatter annihilation is probably between the two |
| 15:12.55 | Wormy_away | lines |
| 15:14.44 | ImpyDroid2 | drom: Your Serbian digesive system finally removed it |
| 15:15.10 | drom | da |
| 15:15.24 | Wormy_away | Hm I think the Xeelee used cosmic inflation as a weapon |
| 15:15.33 | Wormy_away | Or proto-Xeelee |
| 15:16.41 | drom | I know that this sounds radical, but I imagine a object those mesh is made of spacetime. |
| 15:17.31 | Wormy_away | Voidships in OA are |
| 15:17.55 | Wormy_away | And I remember the First Ones in B5 using a similar voidcraft |
| 15:18.49 | drom | Pardon, OA? |
| 15:19.04 | Wormy_away | Xeelee themselves are made of living spacetime discontinuities |
| 15:19.12 | Wormy_away | Orion's Arm |
| 15:19.25 | drom | Ah |
| 15:19.52 | drom | Ngh this fire alarm makes me want to smash it into pieces with a broom. |
| 15:21.52 | Wormy_away | Anyway the Xeelee are probably the most powerful races of hard SF, along with equal contenders (as for the Downstreamers its hard to say what the Xeelee's upper limit is they could be equal) |
| 15:22.20 | Wormy_away | Most of said equals are other fictions by Baxter |
| 15:22.57 | Wormy_away | Just about everything in the Xeelee Sequence is OP |
| 15:24.06 | Wormy_away | Life and complexity in it inhabit every area of space, time, and everey magnitude of energy/mass scales and power |
| 15:24.38 | Wormy_away | Making it both optimistic and nhilistic at the same time (for humans) |
| 15:26.00 | Technobliterator | ok, I need inspiration |
| 15:26.05 | Technobliterator | and a drink |
| 15:30.00 | Wormy_away | drom, Hachiman: Most debate forums ban the X. Sequence from mention http://tinyurl.com/oltmct5 |
| 15:30.58 | Wormy_away | WTF lol http://awesome.redial.net/SWICS_MOmosul.jpg |
| 15:34.15 | Wormy_away | Nice space art http://arawareru.tumblr.com/post/28804856847/the-silent-ruins-of-earth-post-mortem-artistic |
| 15:34.54 | Wormy_away | Inspired by the Xeelee Sequence, though it still looks anthropocentric to me http://i.imgur.com/jOw9F.jpg |
| 15:36.17 | drom | I wish had the talent. ;-; |
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| 15:38.45 | MonetSemi | drom: That's recently become one of my most despised phrases in human language. |
| 15:40.30 | MonetSemi | Everyone is good at something and all it takes is perseverence. |
| 15:41.15 | drom | Practice |
| 15:41.41 | Wormy_away | I've tried to create images like that in Spore |
| 15:41.54 | Wormy_away | But yeah, not the same |
| 15:42.10 | MonetSemi | drom: That as well. But the two work best together |
| 15:42.10 | Wormy_away | I envision the Grox Meta-Emperor's lair to be like that |
| 15:42.38 | Wormy_away | A cluster of stars with plasma lifted from them and fed into his black hole moar |
| 15:42.59 | MonetSemi | That and the mentality of "I have potential I know it" |
| 15:44.03 | Wormy_away | I say it looks anthropocentric because the architecture is very human, and almost modern inspiration |
| 15:44.19 | Wormy_away | Though the concept is cool |
| 15:44.27 | Wormy_away | and very well made |
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| 16:04.30 | Aeondroid | Anyone here? |
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| 16:09.02 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://youtu.be/4Vs7nj5pWEA?t=31 A Russian pro-Putin meeting |
| 16:09.04 | Wormy_away | Semi here |
| 16:09.08 | Wormy_away | yewww http://imgur.com/gallery/bLIR0Mh |
| 16:11.45 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/aScFH |
| 16:13.05 | Wormy_away | "Are donkey passports called assports?" |
| 16:13.47 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/vmwdLjG |
| 16:13.51 | OluapWorker | hur |
| 16:19.34 | drom | Wormy_away: http://imgur.com/gallery/bLIR0Mh |
| 16:19.47 | Wormy_away | just posted |
| 16:20.20 | drom | oh |
| 16:20.43 | drom | Anyway. "When i was 13 my cat slept on my bed, i woke up wet and covered in kittens, the cat gave birth on top of me and i slept through it all." |
| 16:20.49 | drom | I both laughed and cringed |
| 16:21.40 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Ice_Cube_Trials#Grak.27tona:_A_Troo_King...Sorta |
| 16:21.57 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/djTuM |
| 16:22.34 | OluapWorker | You forgot one ----- at the top dumba |
| 16:23.22 | Technobliterator | meh |
| 16:23.25 | Technobliterator | too lazy to fix |
| 16:24.20 | OluapWorker | "Grak'tona stroked his beard" |
| 16:24.27 | OluapWorker | Since when does he have a beard hur |
| 16:24.40 | OluapWorker | Oh |
| 16:24.45 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 16:24.47 | OluapWorker | Right i'm dum nevermind |
| 16:25.10 | Wormy_away | Fireworks under ice http://imgur.com/gallery/Hikk7lQ |
| 16:25.31 | OluapWorker | Oh my god |
| 16:25.33 | OluapWorker | He had to paint her nails |
| 16:25.36 | OluapWorker | How cruel hur |
| 16:26.20 | OluapWorker | "Fre'kloar - "aww...I meen oh ok cool" " |
| 16:26.21 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/GxMLDqy.gif |
| 16:26.21 | OluapWorker | olol |
| 16:26.45 | OluapWorker | That was pretty good, I liked it |
| 16:26.56 | Technobliterator | why thank you |
| 16:27.30 | Wormy_away | lol I take pictures of my dinner |
| 16:28.10 | drom | Wormy_away: I did the same last night. |
| 16:31.01 | drom | Charles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/AcM40iu.png |
| 16:31.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://41.media.tumblr.com/d3e7aed26c1ea6302a1c9b0f54834889/tumblr_nlvz0sm10K1s7fi3io1_540.jpg |
| 16:31.42 | Hachiman | olol |
| 16:32.03 | drom | Jo: http://imgur.com/gallery/Q0SSHx4 |
| 16:32.08 | drom | read the title |
| 16:32.09 | Hachiman | Also ohgod poor Grak'tona |
| 16:32.41 | Hachiman | Perhaps the only Loron with a recognizeable moral compass hur |
| 16:32.54 | Imperios | https://36.media.tumblr.com/111c6e24b954c03db03b1d3cf15d37ed/tumblr_nm1s9vJ3Oc1u72svno1_540.jpg |
| 16:33.24 | OluapWorker | You forget he's also one of the rudest of all the Loron and is also a compulsive liar |
| 16:33.34 | Hachiman | True hur |
| 16:33.50 | OluapWorker | The whole thing ended as being a lie |
| 16:35.00 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://imgur.com/a/8anj7 Brilliant |
| 16:35.21 | Hachiman | Seen this |
| 16:35.27 | Hachiman | Really rather enlightening |
| 16:36.34 | Imperios | https://40.media.tumblr.com/25997570b77f8e96bf8f5fbce7f49e75/tumblr_nkvg02b0ig1tsdmgyo1_540.png ...Wait are SJWs actually using the term "race traitor" |
| 16:37.00 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 16:37.12 | Imperios | Isn't that a- oh wait, yes |
| 16:38.23 | Imperios | I mean that is Stormfront speak |
| 16:38.44 | OluapWorker | Dudebro is a genuine insult though |
| 16:38.58 | Hachiman | How the fuck is dudebro an insult |
| 16:39.27 | OluapWorker | Young adult person who tries too hard to be cool but is actually a jerkass |
| 16:39.34 | OluapWorker | How is that not an insult hur |
| 16:39.56 | Hachiman | So you then |
| 16:40.08 | OluapWorker | But that's wrong |
| 16:40.11 | OluapWorker | I never try to be cool |
| 16:40.22 | OluapWorker | im jus a jerk |
| 16:40.28 | Hachiman | yeh |
| 16:40.52 | OluapWorker | Oh god I just realized that description fits Tomoko |
| 16:41.02 | Hachiman | olol |
| 16:41.12 | OluapWorker | mind blown |
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| 16:49.36 | drom | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dude+bro |
| 16:49.49 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=76&v=B2emBxDOY7g God this dude |
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| 16:50.41 | AlexisHDesilva | Hello? |
| 16:51.00 | Imperios | I ship him and Vitaly Milonov |
| 16:51.02 | Imperios | Hello |
| 16:51.33 | drom | Hello |
| 16:51.46 | AlexisHDesilva | So I went on this site to look at consequence trait things, and I just discovered you guys had a fiction universe thing? I read the guidelines and I want to start but i'm not sure how? |
| 16:52.08 | AlexisHDesilva | Like, it's a huge place it seems so I'm pretty nervous |
| 16:52.42 | Imperios | You're from New York? |
| 16:52.52 | AlexisHDesilva | Yeah, upstate though. Why? |
| 16:52.59 | Hachiman | Imperios: One thing that is gonna bother me about revising and updating the Zazane is the fact that I never came up with a language theme or standard naming convention for them |
| 16:53.06 | Imperios | Ya |
| 16:53.31 | Imperios | AlexisHDesilva: Nevermind, just asking :P |
| 16:53.35 | drom | Some places were used to be restricted, but they are to present day all open so many choices. But we can help you to find the most fitting place. |
| 16:53.36 | Imperios | If you want to start, just make your own fiction |
| 16:53.51 | Hachiman | AlexisHDesilva: There are rules and stuff around the place, I'll go grab them |
| 16:53.58 | AlexisHDesilva | Okay thank you |
| 16:54.31 | AlexisHDesilva | The most nerve-wracking part is how I would get my little species of space aliens involved in the universe. Like I mentioned, seems like a huge place and all with all the galaxies in it. |
| 16:54.50 | drom | Ask us and we help you to pick a place. |
| 16:54.56 | drom | we'll* |
| 16:54.57 | Hachiman | It is quite large but fiction growth comes from collaborating and roleplaying with other users and their aliens |
| 16:55.38 | AlexisHDesilva | I guess. So, would you guys be able to help me pick a place? |
| 16:56.59 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_guidelines#Finding_Your_Place these are your options |
| 16:57.06 | drom | Most of the now existing galaxies have different grounds and provides different attributes. So the "perfect place" depends on your idea, context and concept of your fiction. |
| 16:57.20 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe This page is basically the thing you need most when starting |
| 16:57.38 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_guidelines Oh and this |
| 16:57.46 | AlexisHDesilva | Hachiman, I saw that first page. Read it and got intimidated :P |
| 16:57.55 | AlexisHDesilva | Give me a sec to read everything, brb |
| 16:58.20 | drom | Hachiman: He said that he already read the guidelines. |
| 16:58.47 | AlexisHDesilva | Not the guidelines, the universe one |
| 16:58.50 | AlexisHDesilva | Reading guidelines now |
| 16:59.07 | drom | Right, take your time. |
| 16:59.13 | Hachiman | Imperios: So now all that I have for the Zazane are just a bunch of random rough and guttal words rather than any actual linguistics or conventions which annoys me a bit# |
| 16:59.24 | Imperios | Riiight |
| 16:59.34 | Hachiman | If I wanted to change something now it'd be too late because we already have a bunch of Zazane characters |
| 17:00.00 | Imperios | Well what exactly do you want |
| 17:00.16 | AlexisHDesilva | OK: So essentially I have to be kind. And I do *not* need permission to start in Andromeda, right? |
| 17:00.27 | Hachiman | Nope no permission# |
| 17:00.37 | Hachiman | Imperios: That's the thing, I am not sure hur |
| 17:00.38 | Imperios | I think you need it from me |
| 17:00.44 | AlexisHDesilva | Also, is my species up to some sort of prettyness standard to not be made fun of? http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-501010524808 |
| 17:00.45 | Hachiman | No he doesn't |
| 17:00.51 | Imperios | Right |
| 17:00.52 | Hachiman | Andromeda is a free galaxy |
| 17:00.58 | AlexisHDesilva | Got it |
| 17:01.00 | Imperios | I'd have given permission anyway so don't worry hur |
| 17:01.05 | AlexisHDesilva | OK |
| 17:01.51 | Imperios | Hachiman: I do not think most SporeWiki species outside a few like the Kicath or the Aeoneonatrix have any defined naming practices |
| 17:01.58 | Imperios | Oh and Koldenweltian humans |
| 17:01.59 | OluapWorker | Don't worry about aesthetics, we have plenty of goofy creatures running around the fictionverse |
| 17:02.27 | AlexisHDesilva | Oh okay |
| 17:02.31 | OluapWorker | Not saying yours is goofy but you get my point |
| 17:02.45 | Hachiman | I could have Low and High names for the Zazane characters actually |
| 17:02.47 | AlexisHDesilva | Yeah |
| 17:03.00 | Imperios | Like with Radeons I just came up with something full of digraphs and divided consonants |
| 17:03.14 | OluapWorker | Coming up with languages is for nerdos |
| 17:03.20 | OluapWorker | random name generator da best |
| 17:03.28 | Imperios | Sometimes with Semitic or Greek influences |
| 17:03.42 | Imperios | But you see Semitic influences in everything I make anyway |
| 17:04.01 | Hachiman | I dunno what sorta influences I would include in the Zazane |
| 17:04.05 | Imperios | Hachiman: So plebs name & glorious Zazane master race name |
| 17:04.12 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 17:04.25 | Technobliterator | http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/a-viral-message-of-tolerance-and-train-safety?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp#.ndYk3a4Bx rofl |
| 17:04.41 | Hachiman | Like what sorta language do you affiliate with names like Tyraz Breek, Keldar Taran, Savas, Hork Zando, Kol Daren, etc |
| 17:05.04 | Imperios | Alright you want something unusual for them right |
| 17:05.06 | Technobliterator | MonetSemi, new Deus Ex :o |
| 17:05.28 | Imperios | In theory you could give them a name order that is not based on Western European tradition |
| 17:05.30 | MonetSemi | I heard |
| 17:06.01 | Technobliterator | I'm pumped |
| 17:06.06 | Hachiman | How do you mean? |
| 17:06.11 | Imperios | Personal name + Second personal name + Dad's family name is not a universal tradition after all |
| 17:06.15 | Imperios | Like my name does not follow it |
| 17:06.49 | Imperios | Mine is Personal name + Dad's name with "ovich" suffixed to it + Dad's family name |
| 17:07.13 | OluapWorker | Imperiovinski Impovich |
| 17:07.25 | Imperios | Hur |
| 17:07.31 | Hachiman | Hm that is a fair point |
| 17:07.54 | Hachiman | So it would be Tyraz [second personal name here] Breek |
| 17:08.04 | Imperios | An East Asian standard is Family name + Personal name, the Chinese and the Koreans also have a special list based on Confucian tradition et cetera et cetera from which they pick names I think |
| 17:08.19 | OluapWorker | Breek Breek |
| 17:08.23 | OluapWorker | Tyraz Cheeki Breeki |
| 17:08.27 | Hachiman | olol |
| 17:08.29 | Imperios | Also Koreans have a secret second surname |
| 17:08.36 | Hachiman | Ssh |
| 17:08.38 | Hachiman | It's a secret |
| 17:08.45 | Imperios | Which is considered to be more private |
| 17:09.13 | Imperios | It's a clan name and refers to the city from which one's family originates |
| 17:09.28 | Imperios | I can tell you mine hur |
| 17:09.33 | Technobliterator | oh man |
| 17:09.37 | Technobliterator | what happened to Robot Wars ;_; |
| 17:09.40 | Technobliterator | I loved that show |
| 17:09.51 | Hachiman | So Zazane have three names in the order of [first personal name] [second personal name] [father's family name] with two versions for Low and High Zanatai Common |
| 17:10.02 | drom | MonetSemi: If the NS' native language uses a vertical text layout but not the same flow, would it be easier for the DI to comprehend texts in NS' native language Ogrumkni? They doesn't necessarily need to know the language, I mean if they can easily adapt to an other text layout. |
| 17:10.09 | Hachiman | High being used for more personal interactions, Low for more informal maybe |
| 17:10.17 | drom | Jo: What I know, they shut down years ago. |
| 17:10.39 | Imperios | Wait, wouldn't that be just English tradition |
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| 17:10.50 | Hachiman | Yes I was going to say |
| 17:10.53 | Imperios | I thought you have two personal names hur |
| 17:10.57 | MonetSemi | Hachiman: Doesn't have to be the father's family name. |
| 17:10.58 | Hachiman | That is English naming convention |
| 17:11.02 | GD12 | Hwllo |
| 17:11.21 | Hachiman | And English is Western you dunce hur |
| 17:11.21 | Hachiman | Hai GD |
| 17:11.26 | OluapWorker | Hey |
| 17:11.36 | AlexisHDesilva | Question: Is there a definite year that the universe is in right now? My species will have just established a second colony recently |
| 17:11.43 | Imperios | Yeah it is |
| 17:11.45 | Hachiman | 2806 |
| 17:11.57 | Imperios | Hachiman: Yes it is hur, but even Western countries have different traditions |
| 17:11.59 | AlexisHDesilva | Got it, so maybe 2750? |
| 17:12.02 | OluapWorker | I thought it was 2804 |
| 17:12.03 | Imperios | I mean take Oluap |
| 17:12.09 | Imperios | Oluap probably has a long-ass name |
| 17:12.14 | MonetSemi | In Scandianavian tradition a person's family name is either [father's firstname]-sson or [mother's firstname]-dotr, depending on the child's gender. |
| 17:12.23 | OluapWorker | Well |
| 17:12.28 | OluapWorker | It's 5 words long |
| 17:12.30 | Imperios | Yep like us but with no surnames because bleh |
| 17:12.33 | Imperios | See |
| 17:12.38 | OluapWorker | I guess that's long by your standards hur |
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| 17:12.40 | Imperios | Hmmm |
| 17:12.47 | Hachiman | MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY TREE MONKEY |
| 17:12.49 | Hachiman | dats ur name |
| 17:12.56 | OluapWorker | go brush ur teeth |
| 17:12.59 | drom | Imperios: #tumblr https://36.media.tumblr.com/0f3c731af45b7269ea0cebb242492f2a/tumblr_msxte34Lv91s7dqelo1_500.png |
| 17:13.00 | Hachiman | fug |
| 17:13.00 | Imperios | Maybe Low Zazane surnames and names could be more similar to nicknames in meaning? |
| 17:13.56 | MonetSemi | I remember being told by Icelandics on my trip there that Icelandic phone books list alphabetically by first name, and multiple people with the same firstname are listed alphabetically by surname. |
| 17:13.57 | drom | MonetSemi: The dotr is traditional in Iceland and Norway as I know. |
| 17:13.58 | Imperios | Most Ukrainian and Belorussian surnames that are not identical to Russian surnames are basically random words in Ukrainian |
| 17:13.59 | Hachiman | So "Tyraz" would be derived from a word or a shortened/diverged from of his actual name, like William = Bill? |
| 17:14.08 | drom | But I haven't seen any Danes or Swedes use that. |
| 17:14.09 | Imperios | The Ukrainian/Belorussian girls I know all have surnames like this |
| 17:14.50 | MonetSemi | drom: Wasn't Iceland colonised by Danish Vikings? |
| 17:15.08 | Imperios | Veronica "Twin", Alyona "Great Army", Xenia "Weed"... yes their surnames translate like this |
| 17:15.15 | Imperios | Both in Russian and Ukrainian and Belorussian |
| 17:15.20 | Hachiman | >Xenia "Weed" |
| 17:15.31 | drom | MonetSemi: The word "Dane" grinds my gears. Use Norse |
| 17:15.57 | Imperios | That K-Pop fangirl from Ukraine I met in 2014 |
| 17:15.58 | OluapWorker | Snoop Xenia |
| 17:15.59 | MonetSemi | drom: I said Dane because I was sure the cuntry had a history with Denmark. |
| 17:16.05 | MonetSemi | country* |
| 17:16.08 | Imperios | Her surname literally means "Invasive weed" or something |
| 17:16.20 | OluapWorker | Oh wow |
| 17:16.25 | OluapWorker | Bit ride |
| 17:16.32 | Imperios | Not my fault hur |
| 17:16.55 | MonetSemi | Hachiman: It's an interesting idea. |
| 17:16.57 | drom | Nope, it was Norweigans |
| 17:17.03 | MonetSemi | Right |
| 17:17.14 | drom | But it was ruled by Denmark though. |
| 17:17.14 | Imperios | Not everyone can have a fancy surname like me hur |
| 17:17.37 | drom | First Norway then Denmark. |
| 17:17.39 | MonetSemi | Maybe Tyra'z name could also be derived from "puny" "diminuitive" or "feeble" |
| 17:17.41 | Imperios | Then there was that very prominent Ukrainian politician whose surname was "Moskal" |
| 17:17.52 | Imperios | Which is an ethnic slur in Ukrainian |
| 17:18.11 | MonetSemi | Maybe Zazane earn their names if they have meaning? |
| 17:18.14 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennadiy_Moskal |
| 17:18.30 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskal |
| 17:18.36 | Hachiman | I was gonna say, only reputable Zazane with noble careers have High Zanatai names |
| 17:18.56 | Imperios | That's basically if a white American had a surname "N****rson" |
| 17:19.06 | Hachiman | olol |
| 17:19.26 | drom | So dark that it was sent to jail. |
| 17:19.55 | MonetSemi | To me Zantai sounds quite gutteral and to-the-point. |
| 17:20.03 | Hachiman | Yeah it is guttural |
| 17:20.13 | drom | Imperios: Dick is also a name in US. |
| 17:20.25 | Imperios | Yeah but Dick is not an ethnic slur |
| 17:20.27 | MonetSemi | Dick Cheney hur. |
| 17:21.00 | MonetSemi | Big long-syllable words are impractical on the battlefield or on the hunt |
| 17:22.28 | drom | http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a98527_yearbook-name_7.jpg |
| 17:22.36 | Hachiman | So Tyraz Breek would translate to something like (hypothetically) Thyrazan Basadhrin Khabreek |
| 17:22.56 | Hachiman | Tyraz Breek being the Low Common, Thyrazan Khabreek being the High Common |
| 17:23.22 | MonetSemi | Tyraz - At least my name is eloquent. |
| 17:23.39 | drom | Imperios: http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a98527_yearbook-name_4-f-you.jpg |
| 17:24.13 | Hachiman | The second name in the High Common naming convention could actually reflect profession |
| 17:24.54 | MonetSemi | Hmm. If a word like "shyrak" can mean anything between "dump", "twat" and "waste of space", Zantai could be a language that lacks symonyms. |
| 17:25.01 | Imperios | Ya |
| 17:25.11 | MonetSemi | Or at least, does not have very many |
| 17:25.11 | Imperios | Does not happen in languages |
| 17:26.08 | Imperios | One way or another synonyms always exist, albeit different languages may define things differently |
| 17:26.11 | drom | MonetSemi: Have a language that a word translates to thousands of symonyms, just because the speakers don't want to use the same word again until next day. |
| 17:26.20 | MonetSemi | "shyrak" I guess could be directly translated as either "disgusting" or "worthless" |
| 17:26.53 | AlexisHDesilva | OK, so I created my fiction's page. I hope I didn't totally screw it up: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:VanGreene_Empire |
| 17:27.01 | Imperios | VanGreene Empire |
| 17:27.04 | Imperios | dino would be happy |
| 17:27.16 | AlexisHDesilva | Did I steal a name by accident? :s |
| 17:27.23 | Imperios | >van Greene |
| 17:27.25 | Imperios | He's Dutch |
| 17:27.27 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 17:27.28 | AlexisHDesilva | OHHHH |
| 17:27.34 | AlexisHDesilva | I live in what was New Amsterdam |
| 17:27.40 | AlexisHDesilva | Hudson Valley :) |
| 17:27.48 | AlexisHDesilva | So Rip Van Winkle and Greene County, NY |
| 17:27.55 | Imperios | And I live in a city that was designed after Amsterdam after our Tsar visited it |
| 17:27.59 | Imperios | So yeah we're all slightly Dutch hur |
| 17:28.02 | AlexisHDesilva | Coolll |
| 17:28.05 | drom | AlexisHDesilva: NEW SWEDEN, GIB BACK OUR CLAY |
| 17:28.11 | AlexisHDesilva | XD |
| 17:28.12 | MonetSemi | Alexi: For a minute their I thought you meant AMsterdam -> Financial District NY |
| 17:28.22 | Imperios | GIB BACK ALASKA OR WE WILL CRIMEA IT TO DEATH |
| 17:28.29 | AlexisHDesilva | :P Whoops |
| 17:28.30 | Hachiman | So now I need to come up with High Zanatai Common names for Zazane characters now |
| 17:28.32 | Hachiman | Goody |
| 17:28.47 | AlexisHDesilva | I just wanted to be nice for my New York State roots ^_^ |
| 17:28.49 | Hachiman | And also figure out which occasions are appropriate for using Low or High Common |
| 17:28.53 | MonetSemi | So was New Amsterdam the name of the provice before it was occupied by the British Empire? |
| 17:28.59 | AlexisHDesilva | Yeah |
| 17:29.14 | MonetSemi | I only knewof New Amsterdam the city. |
| 17:29.30 | AlexisHDesilva | Maybe it was New Holland. I'm on Spring Break so who cares really? /s |
| 17:30.16 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 17:30.24 | MonetSemi | I'm curious. Is it true that most of New York State is smal ltowns and farmland with only NYC being the biggest metropolis by far? |
| 17:30.25 | OluapWorker | You don't need |
| 17:30.26 | Imperios | That page is nice, though layout is a bit whacked |
| 17:30.27 | OluapWorker | You just can |
| 17:30.34 | AlexisHDesilva | I figured |
| 17:30.41 | AlexisHDesilva | And thanks |
| 17:30.59 | AlexisHDesilva | Monet, it's mostly small towns for sure. Albany and Buffalo are big though |
| 17:31.26 | drom | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/Nieuw_Nederland_and_Nya_Sverige.svg/240px-Nieuw_Nederland_and_Nya_Sverige.svg.png |
| 17:31.28 | drom | *cringes* |
| 17:31.30 | MonetSemi | Reminds me of England. |
| 17:31.43 | AlexisHDesilva | I guess |
| 17:31.48 | Imperios | Generally |
| 17:31.53 | AlexisHDesilva | I prefer being in the small towns |
| 17:31.53 | Imperios | Do not use = Stuff = |
| 17:32.00 | AlexisHDesilva | Got it |
| 17:32.01 | Imperios | Rather, write == Stuff == |
| 17:32.10 | Imperios | There always have to be two =s or more |
| 17:32.13 | AlexisHDesilva | So just add extra = to everything |
| 17:32.22 | drom | Imperios: Why? |
| 17:32.28 | Imperios | Also in general history comes first, and then comes everything else |
| 17:32.33 | AlexisHDesilva | Okay |
| 17:32.40 | MonetSemi | drom: The title created by = = does not come with a nedit utton |
| 17:32.44 | Imperios | drom: Because = Categories like this = Do not show "edit" signs |
| 17:32.51 | drom | I see. |
| 17:33.16 | AlexisHDesilva | Much better ^^ |
| 17:33.45 | MonetSemi | Hachiman: Perhaps High Common names are used aroudn close friends, family or partners? |
| 17:33.57 | Hachiman | Yeah that makes sense |
| 17:34.38 | MonetSemi | Telling someone your High Common nname could be comparable to sharing a personal secret. |
| 17:38.40 | drom | Speaking of personal names. Sovereignty (the Andromedan) has only one single form of identity. First name and surname. But the names are usually very long, to solve that, they are given a shorter name combined by their longer names. Culture doesn't matter so much aslong the name can be easily related to their full name. |
| 17:41.05 | drom | Prior their adaption to the Andromeda galaxy and the DI being the first empire they get in touch, also supported by the fact Dracid is a very widespread and popular language in Andromeda, they can also bear "Dracid names" which are either the first 4-8 letters of their first or given name. |
| 17:41.13 | drom | got* |
| 17:42.44 | drom | MonetSemi: That bring me the question, how are the Imperium citizens given names? |
| 17:43.07 | MonetSemi | drom: Varies with province. |
| 17:43.24 | MonetSemi | Draconis have three names: A personal name, a brood name and a house name. |
| 17:44.48 | MonetSemi | personal and brood names are given at hatching, and personal names have some measure of meaning to them. |
| 17:45.39 | MonetSemi | Brood names come from the mother you were born to while house names change depending on politics. |
| 17:47.09 | MonetSemi | In a marraige ceremony, the name of the dominant house is adopted by members of the leser house that is marrying. |
| 17:48.26 | drom | House names were also used frequently in NS as a symbol of higher social standing and privilegium. But prior the expansive developments, meaning of the house names have reduced to inofficial bragging rights. |
| 17:51.22 | drom | It's not out of question that Sovereignty citizens take your novelty statues unseriously. |
| 17:52.17 | MonetSemi | novelty statues? |
| 17:52.35 | drom | status |
| 17:53.21 | drom | and it's supposed to be nobility but I didn't bother to check up the spelling used an other word. |
| 17:53.42 | drom | And I don't bother checking my grammar anymore. |
| 17:53.52 | MonetSemi | Nobility is *very* serious in the Imperium - houses gain power by being elected to run planets, subsectors and sectors, but a figurehead is only chosen after the election results have come in. |
| 17:59.55 | drom | Most of the cabinet governors are usually loyalists elected by the former leaders-in-power and current leader. Most of them have roots of nobility before the upper-class stopped playing a weighing role in the society. |
| 18:04.23 | *** join/#sporewiki AlexisHDesilva (1869e164@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.105.225.100) |
| 18:05.20 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/11092826_415151938645507_2048453776517194679_o.png |
| 18:05.48 | AlexisHDesilva | Oh my goodness |
| 18:06.14 | drom | Wait |
| 18:06.39 | drom | So we all men had incest with our own mother? |
| 18:07.12 | AlexisHDesilva | I guess |
| 18:07.21 | Hachiman | >tfw I've been inside my own mum |
| 18:08.02 | Hachiman | "It's set two years after the events of Human Revolution and sees Adam Jensen join forces with an Interpol-funded task force aiming to hunt down and capture augmented terrorists in a world now fearful of augmented humans." - Description of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided from Gamnesia |
| 18:08.11 | Hachiman | So it's Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance |
| 18:08.49 | drom | But less Japanese |
| 18:09.40 | Hachiman | Augmented guy joins up with a third-party taskforce to kill other augmented guys that are terrorizing the modern world via misusing their augmentations |
| 18:09.47 | MonetSemi | AndAdam's work is more more legal. |
| 18:09.51 | MonetSemi | is mor elegal* |
| 18:10.44 | MonetSemi | True but for half of Revengeance Maverick was not doing what was expected of it a a business. |
| 18:12.03 | MonetSemi | Jensen's task force being Interpol-funded gives him a lot of political freedom due to Interpol's connections in international politics, |
| 18:12.52 | drom | My conpiracy senses are tingling |
| 18:13.04 | MonetSemi | Well duh |
| 18:13.51 | Wormy_away | Monet: You once showed me a scene in MGS which is based in a country of Africa experiencing prosperity, then a cyborg attacks. I can't find this scene anywhere |
| 18:13.57 | Tek0516 | O.o Space Engine does not like me going near this thing. |
| 18:14.13 | Wormy_away | I might have deinstall and reinstall SE |
| 18:14.19 | MonetSemi | Wormy_Away: It's the introduction sequence. |
| 18:14.28 | Wormy_away | From which game? |
| 18:14.35 | MonetSemi | Revengeance |
| 18:14.49 | Wormy_away | I liked it because it made swords useful again against modern weaponry |
| 18:14.50 | MonetSemi | Then again after the infiltration of Tai-Yung Medical in Human Revolution, Jensen was effectively acting independantly |
| 18:15.04 | Wormy_away | thanks |
| 18:15.29 | drom | Wormy_away: There you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNQDK3qZUaI |
| 18:15.42 | AlexisHDesilva | I have another question - how on Earth do I find an appropriate empire to contact, and how do I even contact them in the first place? :s |
| 18:15.48 | Wormy_away | thanks |
| 18:16.09 | MonetSemi | I can see an illuminati-influenced Interpol using the task force to take out pro-aug augment activists |
| 18:16.50 | Tek0516 | God freaking damnit. Space Engine just crashed my goddamn PC. |
| 18:17.15 | Tek0516 | Holy **** it does not like that quasar. |
| 18:17.53 | MonetSemi | AlexiDesilva: If you're in Andromeda the AGC is a good port-of-call for contacts. |
| 18:18.06 | MonetSemi | Andromedan Galactic Commonwealth |
| 18:18.16 | AlexisHDesilva | Thank you |
| 18:18.45 | Tek0516 | Wormy_away: This is my attempt at visiting a quasar in Space Engine http://www.ivobeerens.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/image16.png |
| 18:19.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Abysswalker25 (63f4753a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.244.117.58) |
| 18:19.31 | Abysswalker25 | Hello. |
| 18:19.45 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 18:20.18 | AlexisHDesilva | I notice on that AGC page that there's a special box for messages? How do I do that? |
| 18:21.22 | Wormy_away | Tek: Must be so many photons |
| 18:21.24 | drom | Tek0516: The exception error begins with "HAL" |
| 18:21.30 | Wormy_away | i like that |
| 18:22.03 | Tek0516 | That's not the actual screen, I just copied the first one I found. |
| 18:22.25 | Wormy_away | I guessed |
| 18:22.52 | Tek0516 | It's hard to screenshot your PC crashing. >.> |
| 18:22.59 | drom | hur |
| 18:23.04 | Abysswalker25 | How is everyone this day/night/pumpkin pie. |
| 18:23.09 | Hachiman | Also one bad thing about Mankind Divided |
| 18:23.18 | Wormy_away | Either there's a way in the code line to make SE start from somewhere less offensive, but I might have finished the game last time that was in a hard place |
| 18:23.51 | Wormy_away | Or, I'll have to uninstall and install again |
| 18:24.02 | Hachiman | IIRC Jensen had to make a choice at the end of Human Revolution, the fact this game is set in an apocalyptic hellhole either way shows your choice does not matter in the end because same conclusion |
| 18:24.02 | drom | ugh I don't feel like contiune working on the essay |
| 18:24.40 | Imperios | Hachiman: >Clericarch Iovera - You will please Lord Breek. |
| 18:24.46 | Imperios | I sense many double meanings] |
| 18:25.00 | Hachiman | Hork - if u dunt do it rite i will |
| 18:25.08 | MonetSemi | Hachiman: I'm not too worked up about it. |
| 18:25.08 | Abysswalker25 | Oh, are you the person that made those rat people? |
| 18:25.10 | OluapWorker | hoh |
| 18:25.17 | Imperios | Slash for the slash god! |
| 18:25.23 | Imperios | Abysswalker25: You mean the Radeons? |
| 18:25.25 | OluapWorker | And he's my character now |
| 18:25.30 | OluapWorker | Hachi gave it to me |
| 18:25.32 | OluapWorker | him* |
| 18:25.33 | Abysswalker25 | Yes, sorry. I just woke up. Lol. |
| 18:25.36 | MonetSemi | They built an ending basedon one of the endings and Earth would *have* to go to shit anyway to get the original game |
| 18:26.07 | AlexisHDesilva | Monet, I message on this page, right? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction_talk:Andromedan_Galactic_Commonwealth And how do I do that message box? |
| 18:26.50 | MonetSemi | Alexidesilvea: You'll need an Msg template or you could simply put your transmission in quote form |
| 18:27.04 | AlexisHDesilva | Thanks |
| 18:27.06 | Imperios | Yeah 'twas me who made them |
| 18:27.12 | MonetSemi | {{quote|blabla|person}} - the quote tempalte is ocnstructed like this |
| 18:27.31 | AlexisHDesilva | Thank you! |
| 18:27.59 | Abysswalker25 | I like them and hate them at the same time due to my RL dislike of rats. But they're pretty cool despite that. |
| 18:28.08 | MonetSemi | We all knew Jensen's attempts to provide a bright future for mankind were kinda hollow considering how depressing and divided human society was in 2052. |
| 18:28.36 | drom | Imperios: Once I've finished the remodelling of the Nomatarians. I guess the Radeons will get competition. *snigger* |
| 18:28.58 | Imperios | Iovera - WE ARE SEXIER |
| 18:29.12 | drom | Zaal - WE ARE FLUFFIER |
| 18:29.14 | OluapWorker | Vileraz - get outta heer |
| 18:29.34 | Abysswalker25 | I still have no idea what goes on with this chat. ._. |
| 18:29.37 | Imperios | Iovera - I challenge u |
| 18:29.47 | drom | Abysswalker25: Welcome to #sporewiki |
| 18:29.50 | OluapWorker | Hachi - i watch dis |
| 18:29.55 | Imperios | Iovera - AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN BY CHALLENGE |
| 18:30.05 | drom | Zaal - k |
| 18:30.07 | Imperios | Javina suddenly appears out of nowhere in a spacesuit and watches |
| 18:30.36 | OluapWorker | Javina and Geltastra sitting one next to the other |
| 18:31.17 | Imperios | ...And then Sarec and Hachi join in |
| 18:32.13 | OluapWorker | i dun like it anymore |
| 18:32.41 | *** join/#sporewiki Cyrannian (4e11b501@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.17.181.1) |
| 18:32.41 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
| 18:33.01 | drom | Zaal - I didn't live for 100 000 years to take some advice from some 140 y/o fag |
| 18:33.04 | Abysswalker25 | Hmm.. read about empires. Now I need to go read about individual characters.. so much lore. SO MUCH. |
| 18:33.10 | Cyrannian | Hello. |
| 18:33.11 | Imperios | And then Geltastra and Sarec fight over Hachi |
| 18:33.16 | OluapWorker | ~slap Cyrannian |
| 18:33.18 | infobot | ACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 18:33.22 | OluapWorker | where the fug where you all day yesterday |
| 18:33.23 | Cyrannian | ~explode OluapWorker |
| 18:33.23 | infobot | ACTION blows up OluapWorker with bombs |
| 18:33.25 | drom | Hello Cyrannian |
| 18:33.27 | Abysswalker25 | Hail the emprah! |
| 18:33.32 | Cyrannian | My planet needed me? |
| 18:33.33 | AlexisHDesilva | OK, phew, I actually sent a message! :s *nervous* |
| 18:33.39 | OluapWorker | Bad excuse dat |
| 18:34.19 | Cyrannian | I have a lot of assignments to do over the next couple of weeks, but I'll try to be online as much as I can. |
| 18:37.11 | Abysswalker25 | Hm, is there anything I should add to the Umbris page? |
| 18:37.21 | Abysswalker25 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Umbris or replace |
| 18:38.33 | MonetSemi | Alexis: I should ahve asked, what part of Andromeda are the VanGreenes located? |
| 18:39.08 | AlexisHDesilva | There's different parts? Where can I find them? |
| 18:40.01 | AlexisHDesilva | Oh I see it |
| 18:40.12 | drom | AlexisHDesilva: Already found it? |
| 18:40.28 | AlexisHDesilva | I found the parts of the Andromeda galaxy with a minute of on-site googling |
| 18:40.30 | AlexisHDesilva | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_Galaxy?file=AndromedaSegmentumMap.png#Astrography |
| 18:40.33 | AlexisHDesilva | That right? |
| 18:41.04 | MonetSemi | Yes |
| 18:41.06 | drom | Aye |
| 18:41.34 | AlexisHDesilva | Well Umbra sounds pretty decent so I guess that's where the VanGreene will be |
| 18:41.35 | MonetSemi | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Andromeda_Galaxy#Astrography |
| 18:42.04 | drom | NS - Excelleeeeeent! |
| 18:42.36 | AlexisHDesilva | ? |
| 18:43.09 | MonetSemi | Nt Nomatari Sovereignty is also based in Umbra |
| 18:43.21 | AlexisHDesilva | Ah okay |
| 18:43.37 | MonetSemi | Which reminds me drom at some point can you put soem key planets on the map? Umbra on the galactic map is a bit underdevleoped. |
| 18:43.58 | AlexisHDesilva | Monet, I think I'll give the Nomatari a message :) |
| 18:44.27 | drom | Will do on my time after the blueberry pie serving at my dormitory's cafeteria. |
| 18:44.52 | drom | AlexisHDesilva: FYI it's my fiction. |
| 18:45.01 | AlexisHDesilva | OH |
| 18:45.02 | AlexisHDesilva | Okay |
| 18:45.06 | AlexisHDesilva | Sorry bout that |
| 18:45.11 | drom_away | It's fine |
| 18:45.22 | drom_away | No need to excuse |
| 18:45.42 | AlexisHDesilva | Got it |
| 18:46.59 | AlexisHDesilva | How will I know if any of my messages get responded to? |
| 18:54.45 | Technobliterator | just check Special:RecentChanges |
| 18:55.14 | AlexisHDesilva | Thanks |
| 18:55.39 | Technobliterator | editors should regularly check that, but sadly, not enough do |
| 18:58.25 | Wormy_away | Technobliterator: Doesn't help that Wikia hides it |
| 18:58.31 | Technobliterator | They don't |
| 18:59.15 | MonetSemi | Well sort-of, you usually have ot go though recent wiki activity to see recent changes |
| 18:59.15 | Wormy_away | They've changed the format and arrangement of the CSS to focus more on advertisement and social networking, thats why there are less dedicated wikieditors than there was. |
| 18:59.45 | Wormy_away | There are more users, but more dedicated wiki-people? No |
| 19:00.02 | Cyrannian | I just have it saved in my favourites. |
| 19:00.10 | MonetSemi | That recent Monster Hunter advert kills my loading speed >:( |
| 19:00.17 | Wormy_away | Yeah, I have the RC in my bookmarks |
| 19:00.18 | Technobliterator | It's right there in the top navigation |
| 19:00.20 | Cyrannian | Since wiki activity doesn't show edits to the fiction namespace. |
| 19:00.21 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 19:00.57 | Wormy_away | But most users expect things these days rto be right there to be accessed for them, and its funny how the shitty wikia activity function is easier to find |
| 19:01.24 | MonetSemi | In fact I'm having some issue with sites like TV Tropes and PC Gamer because all the adverts on there make browsing difficult. SOmetimes my flash player crashes. |
| 19:01.27 | Technobliterator | I dunno why Wikia invented WikiaActivity |
| 19:01.31 | Technobliterator | It's fucking useless |
| 19:01.44 | Wormy_away | I think my explanation suffces |
| 19:02.22 | Wormy_away | Wikia is more attractive to more types of user, but less useful for more dedicated editors] |
| 19:02.41 | Wormy_away | And they do that so more people click on ads |
| 19:02.48 | OluapWorker | Adblock master race |
| 19:03.32 | Cyrannian | It is probably due to people using the WikiaActivity that many people who come here for the first time think that the wiki is dead. |
| 19:03.45 | Wormy_away | Since we care so much about making new users more dedicated, it rests upon us to inspire them :) |
| 19:03.48 | Technobliterator | It is almost definitely due to that |
| 19:04.25 | Imperios | OluapWorker: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Sultan.png |
| 19:04.59 | OluapWorker | dat majik |
| 19:05.03 | OluapWorker | I like that, very fancy |
| 19:05.30 | Wormy_away | There is one new thing I like though, Wikia's highlighted code has come just in time when we need to fix links |
| 19:06.06 | MonetSemi | AlexisDesilva: Replied |
| 19:06.20 | Wormy_away | Only I do wonder how useful it is for colour-blind users, there should be options to change the colour palett rather than turning it plain on and off in the preferences |
| 19:07.19 | Imperios | Thanks |
| 19:07.40 | Imperios | One thing I don't like is that I made the Sultan look a bit too much like a woman |
| 19:07.54 | OluapWorker | I don't see how |
| 19:08.00 | OluapWorker | Female Merovar have different models |
| 19:08.20 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
| 19:09.15 | Imperios | Hm |
| 19:09.25 | Imperios | Maybe you could use it to represent Megrovaz's mother or something hur |
| 19:09.43 | OluapWorker | lazi |
| 19:10.41 | Abysswalker25 | Hm. |
| 19:10.55 | Abysswalker25 | This outcome of Guts vs Nightmare could've been better. |
| 19:10.58 | Abysswalker25 | Oh well. |
| 19:11.05 | Imperios | Funny thing is, in the Ottoman Empire, the sultan's mother was literally one of the most powerful people in the court |
| 19:11.23 | Imperios | There were actually times where sultans' mothers basically ruled over Turkey |
| 19:13.00 | Imperios | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Women |
| 19:41.13 | *** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@24.114.98.24) |
| 19:50.36 | Hachiman | bak |
| 19:52.10 | OluapWorker | hai |
| 19:56.08 | Abysswalker25 | Eh, I guess I should take my page off of construction until further stuff happens. Or I start to work on individual characters or somethin'. |
| 20:02.14 | drom | I'm not done talking about lesbians with him. |
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| 20:03.00 | GD12 | Hello everyone |
| 20:03.26 | drom | Hello |
| 20:03.30 | Wormy_away | The person on the opposite side of my street has put up magneta lights in their room |
| 20:03.38 | Wormy_away | Thought i was trippin |
| 20:03.41 | Wormy_away | Hi |
| 20:04.01 | drom | Wormy_away: They are having some sexy time. |
| 20:04.12 | Wormy_away | LOL |
| 20:04.41 | drom | If you happen to have a pair of binoculars and they left their window open. There are chances you can have live-time porn. |
| 20:04.46 | Wormy_away | I shan't stare too much then |
| 20:05.18 | Wormy_away | Porn while I'm working, that can't be productive |
| 20:05.26 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 20:05.58 | drom | It's however a privilege to witness realtime porn with your own eyes. |
| 20:06.06 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 20:06.27 | Wormy_away | It's an old couple who live opposite... |
| 20:06.33 | GD12 | What are we talking about? |
| 20:07.00 | drom | Record it and then post it on some porn site decidated to elder audience. |
| 20:07.11 | Wormy_away | There's people have sexy time in front of the window opposite my house, apparentely |
| 20:08.01 | Wormy_away | Tbh my neighbors have loud sexy time |
| 20:08.15 | drom | told you |
| 20:08.22 | OluapWorker | Get binoculars |
| 20:08.33 | Wormy_away | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.24 | drom | IRC:ing while trying to finish an essay while having a diarrhea cannot be healthy for my mentality. |
| 20:10.31 | drom | drom_semi |
| 20:10.40 | drom_semi | dum |
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| 20:18.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
| 20:18.04 | Wormy_away | Hello. |
| 20:19.35 | Wormy_away | Cyrannian, Technobliterator, Drodo, Hachiman: Should we put an end to this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:197459#300 |
| 20:19.59 | Wormy_away | and advisethem ro roleplay elsewhere |
| 20:20.09 | drom_semi | 300 posts? |
| 20:20.16 | Wormy_away | I'm worried they will start creating more threads |
| 20:20.19 | DrodoEmpire | Its not hurting anybody, |
| 20:20.22 | DrodoEmpire | However |
| 20:20.31 | OluapWorker | Why would you? |
| 20:20.46 | DrodoEmpire | It doesn't seem as though they have much interest with the rest of the community. Though we really haven't offered either |
| 20:20.56 | OluapWorker | Let them have their fun |
| 20:20.58 | DrodoEmpire | I say we advise they try titanpad, IRC, or wiki chat at least |
| 20:21.06 | DrodoEmpire | But if they don't want to let them go |
| 20:21.11 | Wormy_away | I'm lenient enough to let the have the one, until they are done with it |
| 20:21.26 | OluapWorker | I don't see the problem with it |
| 20:21.42 | DrodoEmpire | Again, they aren't doing anything *wrong*, it'd just make their lives easier anyway to use a different thing I guess |
| 20:22.03 | Abysswalker25 | Late hello, Drodo. |
| 20:22.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 20:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11133815_10200349494655537_8100701022208237983_n.jpg?oh=33716401b3559bcbd91263689d0d9bca&oe=55A5B2CA - bug fixes for ck2 |
| 20:22.52 | Wormy_away | Okay, I suggest encouragement to intergrate with the rest of us. If not titanpad or IRC, we can suggest SporeWikichat and pastie to archive |
| 20:23.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's fine |
| 20:23.13 | Abysswalker25 | I haven't played CK2 in a while. I got pissed at Sweden invading my newly formed kingdom of Finland. |
| 20:23.21 | DrodoEmpire | If they don't want to though, that's fine also to be honest |
| 20:23.25 | DrodoEmpire | Just let'em go. |
| 20:23.43 | Wormy_away | I'd rather there not be dozens of roleplay threads used by a isolated group of users... |
| 20:24.12 | DrodoEmpire | But there's one roleplay thrread |
| 20:24.14 | DrodoEmpire | *thread |
| 20:24.28 | DrodoEmpire | If it becomes a problem, it becomes a problem, if a very minor one |
| 20:24.36 | Wormy_away | Its not very good for the rest of us to skim through dozens to get to threads we want |
| 20:24.48 | DrodoEmpire | So far they have done nothing wrong, we shouldn't treat them as if they did. |
| 20:25.33 | Wormy_away | I'm not saying persecute them for it, but advise other outlets |
| 20:26.15 | DrodoEmpire | Then do that. I don't have a problem with that. Just seemed as though you were starting to imply other stuff, and the fact you wanted to "put an end" to it earlier. |
| 20:26.16 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 20:26.20 | Wormy_away | Alternatively |
| 20:26.27 | Wormy_away | We could create a roleplasy thread |
| 20:26.34 | Wormy_away | *roleplay forum |
| 20:26.37 | DrodoEmpire | Seems as though it wouldn't be used much. |
| 20:26.53 | DrodoEmpire | While we shouldn't persecute them, we shouldn't go out of our way for them either |
| 20:26.57 | Wormy_away | Aye, but not everybody wants or can use IRC or titanpad it seems |
| 20:27.38 | Wormy_away | Drodo, I was asking *if* we should put an end to it |
| 20:27.44 | DrodoEmpire | Well... I'm confident that its not that they *can't*, but that they don't know *how*. Zilla had an issue with IRC for the longest time but he found a workaround somehow |
| 20:27.58 | DrodoEmpire | Right then, sorry |
| 20:28.17 | DrodoEmpire | Either way it might be better to ask the community about its formation |
| 20:29.04 | Technobliterator | I think we should use Special:Chat as a kind of "help desk" |
| 20:29.15 | Technobliterator | as the place to get immediate help from someone |
| 20:29.20 | Technobliterator | but IRC as the primary means of communication |
| 20:29.21 | DrodoEmpire | That's a good idea |
| 20:29.44 | Wormy_away | It depends, if they are accessing the wiki from a school, and by some magic the wiki isn't blocked but IRC is, you get my point. Or they could be using very old browsers. Externalization was hesitant about downloading firefox, and we shouldn't leave those users out. |
| 20:30.22 | Technobliterator | What should we put an end to? |
| 20:30.57 | Technobliterator | Oh, thread |
| 20:30.59 | Technobliterator | Eh |
| 20:31.02 | Wormy_away | Their roleplay thread, which is arguably isolated and irrelevant. I don't mind ne but not hundreds |
| 20:31.04 | DrodoEmpire | The thread some of the new people are using for their RP. Me and Oluap have zero issue with it but Wormy wants to advise them to use other stuff |
| 20:31.09 | Wormy_away | *one |
| 20:31.20 | DrodoEmpire | But that's a slippery slope you're implying |
| 20:31.23 | Technobliterator | I would advise them to use something else but they're not doing any harm |
| 20:31.26 | Wormy_away | But then I thought of having a roleplay section of the forum |
| 20:31.47 | Technobliterator | I don't agree with that |
| 20:31.50 | DrodoEmpire | I'm just concerned as to how much it'd be used, or if it might misdirect new users from the IRC and greater community |
| 20:31.51 | Wormy_away | And that would be good for users who don't want to use titanpad or IRC |
| 20:32.13 | Technobliterator | I encourage use of IRC for communications, and Special:Chat as a helpdesk |
| 20:32.17 | Wormy_away | The only problem is: isolated parts of the community |
| 20:32.19 | Ghel | I don't think there's any harm with pointing them to other outlets. Implying that they're being a nuisance should of course be avoided. |
| 20:32.38 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:33.30 | Wormy_away | Right then, should we intervene if they start making dozens more. I'm sorry but I don't like isolated parts of the community |
| 20:33.36 | Ghel | I would imagine that one advantage to the current system, from their point of view, is that everything is automatically saved and they don't have to be there all at the same time, so IRC with Pastie might not be too popular with them, although Titanpad should be fine. |
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| 20:33.44 | Wormy_away | Because it makes wiki-wide decisions difficult |
| 20:33.52 | Wormy_away | and conflict more likely |
| 20:34.16 | Wormy_away | They've refusedto acknowledge titanpad though |
| 20:34.39 | Technobliterator | who discovered titanpad btw |
| 20:35.01 | Wormy_away | And I don't want to scan through hundreds of threads that have nothing to do with sporewiki |
| 20:35.04 | OluapWorker | Cyrannian |
| 20:35.13 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 20:35.13 | Wormy_away | The Randomness, then Cyrannian |
| 20:35.29 | Ghel | Are you sure they're aware of titanpad? |
| 20:35.39 | Ghel | Not that it makes much difference; that was really a side point. |
| 20:35.45 | Cyrannian | Aye, Randomness revealed it to me |
| 20:35.46 | Technobliterator | my only concern with the community is how few people here use real IRC clients |
| 20:35.50 | Ghel | My first comment on the topic is the main thing. |
| 20:35.55 | Technobliterator | how do you guys manage without a client |
| 20:35.58 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 20:36.13 | OluapWorker | cus we dunt hav ur autism lel |
| 20:36.16 | Technobliterator | it must be so annoying to have to type your password in and type the channel name every time |
| 20:36.18 | Technobliterator | how do you guys manage it |
| 20:36.21 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 20:36.27 | Ghel | By not being as easily annoyed as you. |
| 20:36.35 | Cyrannian | It only takes like, 5 seconds. |
| 20:36.38 | DrodoEmpire | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11096389_10153174257266605_2881575239341853377_n.jpg?oh=0cf4fd23d177cde3c87fd072885619cf&oe=55A0EB7F&__gda__=1436787389_ccfd1e2707cc87de6a22c27c7450114f |
| 20:36.39 | Technobliterator | that makes sense |
| 20:36.45 | Technobliterator | but then there's the whole it disconnecting thing |
| 20:36.46 | OluapWorker | UGH but my FIVE WHOLE SECONDS |
| 20:36.59 | Technobliterator | and you have to reconnect manually |
| 20:37.03 | Technobliterator | those five seconds add up : | |
| 20:37.14 | OluapWorker | I'd rather disconnect than have my name stay here while I'm offline |
| 20:37.17 | OluapWorker | I hate people who do that |
| 20:37.19 | OluapWorker | u included |
| 20:37.38 | Technobliterator | it's not my client that does that |
| 20:37.40 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 20:37.56 | OluapWorker | point stands i haet u |
| 20:38.23 | DrodoEmpire | https://twitter.com/EvilCarlSagan |
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| 20:42.35 | Hachiman | Shit |
| 20:43.32 | OluapWorker | u |
| 20:47.48 | drom_semi | Jo: My IRC client saves my password and usernames, lets me to configure it to autojoin channels of my choice on successful connect. |
| 20:48.58 | drom_semi | But it however doesn't have the feature to scan for a keyword that would cause your client to ping you. |
| 20:49.12 | drom_semi | FYI, it's HexChat. |
| 21:09.41 | Wormy_away | Ghel: Titanpad was pointed out twice to them |
| 21:11.53 | Hachiman | Just damn well use the Special:Chat |
| 21:12.00 | Hachiman | How is it this hard for them |
| 21:12.01 | Hachiman | Idiots |
| 21:12.37 | Hachiman | Probably underage as well |
| 21:12.42 | Hachiman | I say we ban them kek |
| 21:12.48 | Abysswalker25 | Goodbye rabbit man and everyone else |
| 21:12.54 | Wormy_away | raises pitchforks |
| 21:12.59 | Hachiman | Cya Abyss |
| 21:14.24 | Wormy_away | I don't really see whats wrong with a roleplay forum, IRC isn't mandatory, and its better than sifting through possibly irrelevant threads. Other than that, we can try once again to encourage them to use titanpad |
| 21:14.30 | drom_semi | climbs up on Wormy_away's shoulders and rips the pitchforks from his hands and raises them higher* |
| 21:14.51 | Wormy_away | But last time they didn't listen |
| 21:15.12 | Wormy_away | And I saw one of them even join the titanpad link I sent them |
| 21:15.42 | Hachiman | Clogs up RAM or whatever memory and wastes time |
| 21:15.53 | drom_semi | Back in my old times, when we used to RP, we made new posts for every action in a forum. |
| 21:16.15 | drom_semi | RAM? Barely. |
| 21:16.20 | drom_semi | Loading times? Definitly |
| 21:16.49 | Wormy_away | Doesn't really effect the rest of the wiki though |
| 21:17.16 | Wormy_away | I don't suppose its a huge issue, we hardly use the forums |
| 21:17.28 | Hachiman | I am bringing up the same argument I did when it comes to disambiguation pages |
| 21:17.32 | drom_semi | Just loading times and content adminstration are affected. |
| 21:17.37 | Hachiman | We are not going to cater to them |
| 21:17.42 | Hachiman | When we have plenty of alternatives |
| 21:19.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi, how does it effect *you* though? |
| 21:19.27 | DrodoEmpire | f it isn't hurting nobody, then I don't *really* see an issue. |
| 21:19.30 | DrodoEmpire | *If |
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| 21:19.56 | DrodoEmpire | Of course, its better that they use something else. But in the end its not *bad* that they aren't. |
| 21:20.38 | Wormy_away | Hach has a point, and it is one you brought up Drodo, why should we cater people? However, I'm not bothered about catering them, but users who don't use IRC or titanpad in general. |
| 21:20.53 | Wormy_away | *Hachi |
| 21:20.55 | DrodoEmpire | Well no we shouldn't cater to a very small group of people |
| 21:21.01 | Hachiman | If I make a bunch of threads about NSFW content, that is not hurting people |
| 21:21.04 | DrodoEmpire | But we shouldn't harass, persecute, shun, or ban them |
| 21:21.07 | Hachiman | As in sexually explicit NSFW content |
| 21:21.15 | DrodoEmpire | ...Except that's not what they're doing? |
| 21:21.17 | Hachiman | I am not hurting anybody so I am not in the wrong and I can continue |
| 21:21.21 | DrodoEmpire | That's irrelevant Hachi. |
| 21:21.25 | Hachiman | That's how stupid that argument sounds |
| 21:21.35 | DrodoEmpire | But you're using a strawman |
| 21:21.55 | Hachiman | Does not matter whether they are hurting anybody or not, they are still in the wrong |
| 21:21.56 | DrodoEmpire | They're doing a harmless little roleplay on a single thread, not spamming threads full of porn |
| 21:21.57 | Wormy_away | IRC is not a mandatory component of being part of this community, itsc an excess as far as I'm concerned, useful but not soimething to revolve around. |
| 21:22.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:22.52 | DrodoEmpire | But its *harmless*. What rule is there against using threads in such a fashion? What disruption is it causing that isn't us making it an issue artificially? |
| 21:23.32 | DrodoEmpire | How, exactly, are they in the wrong? |
| 21:23.33 | Wormy_away | I feel as though my proposal for a roleplay section solves all these issues |
| 21:23.47 | Hachiman | Why have a roleplay section when we have IRC and Titanpad |
| 21:23.56 | Hachiman | Forget RP threads, they're a fucking stupid idea |
| 21:24.09 | DrodoEmpire | There's a few potential issues with that Wormy, but we don't have anything to lose by trying an experimental RP section |
| 21:24.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi, stay civil. |
| 21:24.26 | Hachiman | We even have Special:Chat for RPs to be done on |
| 21:24.26 | DrodoEmpire | So I say we might as well. |
| 21:24.32 | Hachiman | I disagree |
| 21:24.53 | Wormy_away | Its not that harmless. Whast if they remain isolated if we continue no action as we are? And they, and other users start creating loads of irrelevant threads we have to sift through? And what if we wanted to make changes in the future, and find ourselves in a new silly conflict? |
| 21:25.28 | Wormy_away | It might not be current but I can see this as a potential problem that does not have to exist |
| 21:25.34 | Hachiman | Tons of irrelevant edits |
| 21:25.49 | Wormy_away | So I suggetst we take action now, rather than later when it is less damaging |
| 21:26.01 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Alright, it *can* pose an issue in the future. Lets nip it in the bud now and ask them to move it elsewhere |
| 21:26.12 | Hachiman | RPing outside of Sporewiki's threads, like with Titanpad, IRC, and Special:Chat, we save the edit count as well |
| 21:26.27 | Wormy_away | We could do that; or create a seprate roleplay forum which I don't mind |
| 21:26.33 | Hachiman | This is why we got rid of blogs |
| 21:26.56 | DrodoEmpire | But no, we are absolutely *not* harassing them for committing a victimless crime. :p |
| 21:27.03 | DrodoEmpire | Or really a nonexistant one |
| 21:27.07 | Hachiman | *You* won't |
| 21:27.09 | Wormy_away | And that would befor users who don't use IRC in general |
| 21:27.22 | DrodoEmpire | And if *you* do, it'll get you in trouble. We have to be professional. |
| 21:27.34 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Fair enough. |
| 21:27.51 | Hachiman | I am being professional by not allowing this community and its staff to cater to juveniles newcomers that do not know how things work |
| 21:27.59 | Cyrannian | I'll send them a wee message |
| 21:28.03 | Wormy_away | Could I have some more opinions? |
| 21:28.24 | Hachiman | Teach them the ropes and if they cannot learn, well you know how Darwin's principle works |
| 21:28.44 | Hachiman | They fall behind and eventually they will either leave naturally or get themselves booted |
| 21:28.44 | DrodoEmpire | I'll just let you have your opinion, Hachi. I see this boiling over. |
| 21:29.10 | MonetSemi | I don't see them causing any harm. |
| 21:29.23 | Hachiman | So now we're gonna cater to infants |
| 21:29.27 | Hachiman | What has this place come to |
| 21:30.23 | Wormy_away | Alright, I think we should jusat remind them than titanpad and SporeWiki chat exists for now |
| 21:30.46 | MonetSemi | They're not hurting anyone, and apart from a minor concern about what -could- happen, they're nto bothering anyone. |
| 21:30.58 | Hachiman | They bother me |
| 21:31.04 | Hachiman | They are not only wasting their time, they are wasting ours |
| 21:32.20 | MonetSemi | So we let them be. |
| 21:33.29 | Wormy_away | What we *could* do, is recommend other outlets if they create new threads. They can keep the current as there was no policy aainst rolewplay threads |
| 21:33.47 | Wormy_away | But I'd rather there is |
| 21:34.06 | MonetSemi | And if they'd rather not use titanpad then that is their choice. |
| 21:34.13 | Wormy_away | It would be annoying to have users with no interest in the current, camping on our forums |
| 21:34.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it would be |
| 21:35.05 | Hachiman | Which is why we either have them adapt or get rid of them |
| 21:35.06 | DrodoEmpire | And if they explicitly profess a disinterest with the greater community then we *may* have grounds to evict them |
| 21:35.10 | Wormy_away | As long as we can circumvent that, I'm fine with the situation |
| 21:35.16 | DrodoEmpire | Otherwsie |
| 21:35.17 | DrodoEmpire | *wise |
| 21:35.31 | DrodoEmpire | We have no reason to do so and it'd reflect badly on us; COexist, really |
| 21:35.49 | DrodoEmpire | Integrate them by being *friendly*, and getting them involved |
| 21:35.56 | MonetSemi | The wiki's gone hmm, 6 years is it? (Eight?) without people being explicitly told where and ow to RP (okay maybe once or twice like not on the public IRC channel) |
| 21:36.04 | MonetSemi | how to* |
| 21:36.39 | Wormy_away | These forums are relatively new though. |
| 21:36.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but to be honest I think many of us learnt the hard way. :p My first RPs were on blogs until I discovered IRC, so I made their mistake too |
| 21:37.00 | Wormy_away | And because of their format they harbour new problems |
| 21:37.37 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:197459#300 - Sent them a message. |
| 21:39.05 | DrodoEmpire | Well-worded and written. |
| 21:39.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hopefully, it gets their attention or at least starts a diologue. |
| 21:39.23 | Wormy_away | Yeah that is the best start |
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| 21:44.39 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:04.29 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:07.34 | Hachiman | Wormy_: How would you explain the existence of ghosts in the Fictionverse that are tied to Elemental energy? |
| 22:07.55 | Hachiman | Basic summary rather |
| 22:07.56 | Wormy_ | Hm, two ways |
| 22:09.43 | Wormy_ | Number one: Ghosts are fragments of sentient being's souls, which are created via intent or the subconscious abd live in the collective unconscious as stored archetypes (elemental ernergy is highly related to consciousness) |
| 22:10.08 | Wormy_ | And are released as apparaitional phenomena upon sufficient stimulation |
| 22:10.53 | Wormy_ | Alternatively they could be higher beings living in the same essence body |
| 22:11.09 | Technobliterator | well other than doing one Loron fiction thing I basically wasted all of today |
| 22:11.11 | Technobliterator | go me. |
| 22:11.22 | Wormy_ | Number two: elemental energy acts as a medium for the after-life |
| 22:12.32 | Hachiman | Mind summarising Number 1 a bit more? |
| 22:12.46 | Wormy_ | and cause apparitional phenomena locally in minds |
| 22:14.01 | Wormy_ | It is basically saying ghosts are fragments of awareness or simply thoughtforms that live, perhaps like a parasite, in minds |
| 22:14.42 | Wormy_ | The ghost would make itself apparent by causing mind altering effects to the host |
| 22:15.39 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: I based it on the idea of Machine Elves http://non-aliencreatures.wikia.com/wiki/Machine_Elf |
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| 22:16.43 | Wormy_ | Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious |
| 22:18.15 | MonetSemi | Could Purgatory be the closest we have to a neutral afterlife? |
| 22:18.28 | MonetSemi | Since it seems ot overlap with realspace |
| 22:21.24 | Hachiman | So basically ghosts tied to Elemental Energy would be the conscious psychological remnants of sapient beings that either require the active conscious of living sapients to sustain themselves and can utilize the energy to make themselves appear in realspace when they are not or are tied to places with strong spiritual presences? |
| 22:21.40 | Wormy_ | Exactly |
| 22:21.56 | Hachiman | Right I get you now |
| 22:23.11 | Aeo | So I just got back from seeing Home, the movie. It is amazing. I literally cried. |
| 22:23.35 | Aeo | The first half makes it seem like it's going to be below average, but it really picks up. |
| 22:23.37 | Aeo | The feels. |
| 22:25.26 | Wormy_ | http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2013/11/rebooting-to-the-realm-of-monsters/ |
| 22:26.43 | Aeo | By the way, I have a new empire that I'd like to have make a Cameo in the Schism. |
| 22:27.23 | Aeo | Basically I need someone to stomp on it and leave it licking its wounds for the big story I plan to use it for. |
| 22:30.37 | Wormy_ | That would probably be me |
| 22:31.04 | MonetSemi | Hehe |
| 22:31.25 | Aeo | IDK if maybe the DCP would be more inclined to work with these guys. |
| 22:31.32 | Tek0516 | >.< I really want to check out this awesome quasar in Space Engine but last time tried my PC crashed. :/ |
| 22:31.43 | Aeo | Than the Imperium, France and TIAF. |
| 22:31.44 | Monet | Aeo: WHat makes you say that? |
| 22:32.58 | Aeo | They're the kind of guys you shoot on principle. |
| 22:32.59 | Wormy_ | They could be working with the DCP, but the DI or allies annex it for resources or territory |
| 22:33.39 | Aeo | I want it to end with the empire broken but... actually, DI annexing a big chunk of it would be perfect. |
| 22:34.32 | Aeo | Because my plan is to have the Aeoneonatrix teleport in right next to them. Monet being right there will make it convenient to do some fiction with him that I'd been planning anyway. |
| 22:34.45 | Aeo | And maybe involve him in THE story I'm going to do this summer. |
| 22:37.07 | Monet | I can do that, yeah |
| 22:39.31 | Aeo | It will be interesting to see how the Inquisition reacts to the Cleanser picking up 1000 stars and setting them down on the other side of the galaxy fifteen years later precisely as they were, down to the ages of the people on the planets. |
| 22:40.35 | Hachiman | Bit OP |
| 22:41.14 | Aeo | Yes, but plot needs it and it'll drain him pretty badly. |
| 22:41.49 | Monet | I think a lot of people will be hit with "da fuq...?" |
| 22:42.05 | Aeo | I would imagine. |
| 22:42.42 | Aeo | And it'd make the inquisition pretty worried that the conquering cult leader can do that. |
| 22:43.08 | Aeo | It's one of my many goals to somehow get the League of Patrons or the cleanser on that top 5 list of threats. |
| 22:43.15 | Tek0516 | It'll probably be especially wierd for the Aeons once they encounter Farengeto ships, now two tiers more advanced since their disappearance. |
| 22:44.16 | Aeo | Right, and of course the Axis of good is unprecedentedly torn against one another, former allies and friends fighting to the dea... wait, that happens every Tuesday. I forgot. |
| 22:44.20 | Tek0516 | Especially if its no other context than Farengeto ships and vastly more advanced. XD |
| 22:44.21 | Hachiman | I cannot stand people that are into beastiality, those people are fucking animals |
| 22:44.45 | Tek0516 | ... |
| 22:45.00 | DrodoEmpire | k |
| 22:45.01 | Tek0516 | I'm assuming pun intended? |
| 22:45.20 | Wormy_ | I don't like people who commit animal abuse of all kinds |
| 22:45.34 | Aeo | I've actually thought about writing a parody empire, and its history section would be all about how it goes from war to war with no peace time in between, usually based on a misunderstanding that allows the entire bloodbath to be forgotten about inside 10 years. |
| 22:45.52 | Hachiman | Yes pun intended hur |
| 22:55.51 | *** join/#sporewiki Abysswalker25 (63f4753a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.244.117.58) |
| 22:56.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 22:56.13 | Abysswalker25 | Hello again. |
| 22:57.23 | Hachiman | Hai Abyss |
| 22:59.01 | Abysswalker25 | This stupid dog is driving me insane. |
| 23:02.07 | Hachiman | You should break up with her then kek |
| 23:03.09 | Abysswalker25 | ~bomb Hachiman |
| 23:03.09 | infobot | ACTION drops a humongous exploding nuke on Hachiman |
| 23:03.11 | Abysswalker25 | Aw |
| 23:03.14 | Abysswalker25 | Oh |
| 23:03.16 | Abysswalker25 | there. :D |
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| 23:43.51 | Hachiman | You're a fucking dumbass that's what |
| 23:45.02 | Abysswalker25 | 2spooky |
| 23:46.22 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: So apparently, during the mid-12th Century, the Emperor of Byzantine was given a letter signed by a mysterious figure called "Prester John" who was supposedly the king of a Christian king that supposedly owned emerald ships and magic fruits and promised to fight the heathen enemies of the Catholic Church |
| 23:47.02 | DrodoEmpire | Seems legit |
| 23:47.13 | Hachiman | This letter was sent not by a man called Prester John, who did not actually exist, and the sender is unknown to this day. 40 years after the letter was received, during the Fifth Crusade, reports came to the Church that there was indeed a kingdom tearing through the heathen enemies of Christianity |
| 23:47.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
| 23:47.25 | Hachiman | But it was not Prester John and his kingdom; it was Genghis fucking Khan |
| 23:47.28 | DrodoEmpire | Seems legit indeed |
| 23:47.33 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
| 23:47.34 | DrodoEmpire | Oh shit |
| 23:47.35 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 23:47.57 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 23:48.08 | Hachiman | They did not in fact realize it was Genghis Khan until he began his invasion of Europe by smashing through Catholic countries and crashing their gates and terrorizing their people |
| 23:48.09 | DrodoEmpire | Well... |
| 23:48.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 23:48.25 | DrodoEmpire | Seems cool, but its probably a coincidence honestly. :p |
| 23:48.47 | Hachiman | Yeah, a message sent by some joker who thought it'd be funny to shitpost the Byzantine Emperor |
| 23:48.53 | Hachiman | And then Khan happened |
| 23:49.09 | DrodoEmpire | By the time that letter was recieved Genghis was either a Kid or just forming his kingdom, probably the first. Dunno his exact age |
| 23:49.21 | DrodoEmpire | "Shitpost the Byzantine Emperor" |
| 23:49.24 | Abysswalker25 | I actually wanted to use mongolian tactics for the Umbris in warfare. But such things include mass genocide and biological warfare lol |
| 23:49.35 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 23:49.53 | DrodoEmpire | You *can* use military tactics the Mongols used, technicall |
| 23:49.55 | DrodoEmpire | *technically |
| 23:50.07 | Abysswalker25 | We're just going to use space horses and compact bows |
| 23:50.12 | DrodoEmpire | False-retreats, usage of auxiliaries from conquered peoples |
| 23:50.15 | Abysswalker25 | And conquer the known universe. |
| 23:50.26 | Aeo | Perfidy. |
| 23:50.39 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire#Drodo_Cavalry |
| 23:50.42 | Aeo | Lots of fucking perfidy. |
| 23:50.43 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - Beat you to it |
| 23:50.50 | Abysswalker25 | Nooooooooo |
| 23:50.54 | Aeo | ALL OF THE FUCKING PERFIDY. |
| 23:51.05 | Hachiman | What the fuck is perfidy |
| 23:51.13 | DrodoEmpire | The Mongols had bright ideas, but genocide and whatnot probably isn't recommended. XD |
| 23:51.39 | DrodoEmpire | Granted when they actually *conquered* people they treated them fairly after the initial terror |
| 23:52.46 | Abysswalker25 | Yeah they were pretty nice to people that were taken over. Just if you fought them all bets were off. |
| 23:52.57 | Aeo | We do already have a "I want to conquer the universe to make it better" empire, but it's been inactive for a while... unless you count the Aeoneonatrix, which, come to think of it, you absolutely should. |
| 23:53.18 | Hachiman | And which inactive empire is this? |
| 23:53.48 | Abysswalker25 | I was intially going to do that but I thought it'd be an overdone concept. |
| 23:54.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it can be |
| 23:54.33 | DrodoEmpire | And most attempts don't get very far. XD |
| 23:54.35 | Aeo | Therenian Dominion, or something similar. |
| 23:54.47 | Hachiman | Don't remember it |
| 23:55.07 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: I find the Mongol's weird anti-arrow clith ingenious, they could pull out the arrow with less damage |
| 23:55.15 | Wormy_ | *cloth |
| 23:55.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 23:55.19 | Abysswalker25 | Well, given that there has been years of time to build up, I honestly don't think anyone can do it unless they are already a hyperpower. |
| 23:55.29 | Hachiman | Well |
| 23:55.34 | Wormy_ | Oh and they used smoke screens to thrash the knights |
| 23:55.38 | Hachiman | The Gigaquadrant is actually considerably small |
| 23:55.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah world domination's difficult, unless you're Ryukyu. |
| 23:55.48 | DrodoEmpire | http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/617280783329384482/7ED5F1CC40E1C1C222234282B72A37EF4CDAA3BD/ |
| 23:56.08 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: yeah medieval knights didn't stand a chance |
| 23:56.14 | Aeo | One thing to keep in mind: So long as you don't give up, you have as long as you want. |
| 23:56.17 | Hachiman | The *entire* universe is impossible to conquer definitely but the Gigaquadrant is the only active part of that gargantuan universe post-Annihilation |
| 23:56.39 | DrodoEmpire | Mongols were *born* on the saddle, and in the middle ages the horse archer was the most potent soldier on the battlefield |
| 23:56.49 | Aeo | Which is why the Aeoneonatrix, in my mind, really might rule the roost someday. The Cleanser ensures that their culture will NEVER change enough to make them stop. |
| 23:56.54 | Abysswalker25 | Thats why they are so OP in CK2. |
| 23:56.57 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:57.06 | Abysswalker25 | I hate fighting horse archers. |
| 23:57.10 | Abysswalker25 | They destroy you. |
| 23:57.16 | Hachiman | It is not the Aeoneonatrix ruling though |
| 23:57.18 | Hachiman | It is the Cleanser |
| 23:57.29 | Aeo | So yeah, they're not going to beat the DCP in a million years, but who cares? They have a billion. |
| 23:57.32 | DrodoEmpire | The only problem is they took a lifetime of training to make, and such lifetime of training needed a pretty slim number of climates in order to arise. |
| 23:57.50 | Abysswalker25 | Isn't the DCP dealing with a lot of issues right now? |
| 23:57.55 | Aeo | They don't care about power for themselves. They care about their ideology. |
| 23:57.59 | Hachiman | DCP is actually kicking ass right now |
| 23:58.01 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, the Xonexi War. |
| 23:58.07 | DrodoEmpire | Which they won in the Milky Way |
| 23:58.17 | DrodoEmpire | But still face *major* resistance elsewhere |
| 23:58.31 | Hachiman | DCP slapped France's shit silly and now they are on the verge of victory against the Imperium |
| 23:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | In all the secured the mainland though |
| 23:58.40 | DrodoEmpire | Not really Hachi |
| 23:58.54 | DrodoEmpire | France gave a good fight and only the mainland was defeated |
| 23:59.08 | DrodoEmpire | The other 60% of France; Its COlonial Empire, is still indepant |
| 23:59.12 | DrodoEmpire | *independant |
| 23:59.24 | DrodoEmpire | And I wouldn't say the Imperium is on the verge of losing either |
| 23:59.49 | Abysswalker25 | So its uh |
