00:00.00 | Hachiman | Considering playing Marauder hur |
00:01.17 | Wormy_ | Well, I'm going on quickly before bed |
00:01.24 | Technobliterator | I wouldn't recommend starting out as a tank |
00:01.28 | Technobliterator | But MRD is fun |
00:01.58 | Hachiman | Panda suggested it hur |
00:02.41 | Technobliterator | Generally it's best to try DPS or healer classes before tanks |
00:03.14 | Hachiman | but dat meens bein a pussy |
00:03.38 | Technobliterator | well, it does unless you play melee DPS |
00:03.46 | Technobliterator | I main MNK |
00:04.34 | Hachiman | Does the original FFXIV have a story that isn't accessible in Realm Reborn or is it also included in it? |
00:05.07 | Monet | As a veteren tank, I'd say there's less presure on DPS |
00:05.35 | Technobliterator | Original FFXIV story is not accessible, no. It's also not very good, so who cares |
00:05.36 | Technobliterator | :p |
00:05.45 | Monet | Also idunno if you are being a pussy if you'er focusing on dealing damage rather than taking it. |
00:06.14 | Monet | You're just being manly in a different way |
00:06.47 | Technobliterator | Monet, other than STO and SWTOR, which MMOs do/have you played? |
00:07.21 | Monet | WoW, Guild Wars 2, Eve Online, Runescape, ahh... |
00:07.42 | Wormy_STO | I might give Eve free trial a try |
00:07.47 | Hachiman | >Runescape |
00:07.49 | Hachiman | bruh |
00:07.51 | Monet | Lor of the Rings Online as well |
00:07.57 | Monet | Lord* |
00:08.13 | Monet | Hachiman: Haven't played in years though. |
00:08.26 | Monet | Champions Online's okay. |
00:08.45 | Technobliterator | EVE Online I hear is very different, though |
00:09.05 | Monet | It's not a stwitch-focused as the others. |
00:09.21 | Technobliterator | I can definitely say you are an MMO vet :p |
00:09.24 | Monet | And it's unique in that you can train skills while offline. |
00:09.36 | Technobliterator | how do you pay for them all though |
00:09.37 | Technobliterator | woah |
00:09.56 | Monet | I play two at a time at most. |
00:11.04 | Monet | Champions Online, LOTRO (I think), TOR also have a F2P side. |
00:11.26 | Wormy_STO | You've played Secret World too |
00:11.43 | Wormy_STO | Which I would play if it wasn't 40 quid |
00:12.05 | Monet | Ah yes, that too |
00:13.11 | Wormy_STO | I've lost interest in No Man's Sky |
00:13.26 | Cyrannian | Why don't you play TOR, Wormy? Seems right up your street |
00:13.27 | Wormy_STO | Space Engine is more on my mind |
00:13.57 | Wormy_STO | I would like to play TOR, but it has less free content than STO |
00:14.05 | Wormy_STO | Last time I looked anyway |
00:14.24 | Technobliterator | Does TOR have space combat? |
00:14.30 | Cyrannian | Aye |
00:14.38 | Technobliterator | though you guys seem to prefer STO |
00:15.11 | Wormy_STO | STO has better space combat, TOR has better ground |
00:15.16 | Cyrannian | I think SWTOR is a better game in most respects, though I still like STO and it runs better on my system. |
00:15.39 | Wormy_STO | I wish the devs hurried up with this http://cdn.wcnews.com/newestshots/full/infinity02.jpg |
00:16.11 | Wormy_STO | Space Engine has taken Infinity's spotlight from me now |
00:16.32 | Wormy_STO | Its more astronomically accurate and it has great features coming |
00:17.01 | Wormy_STO | and updates come up all the time, while Infinity might get one blog post a year |
00:18.29 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:19.05 | Wormy_STO | I say this, but now I've got an egg on my face |
00:19.22 | Wormy_STO | A batch of updates here showing real progress https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNEHBrhTUN4P_ZxIy29DNQw |
00:19.28 | Monet | I have yet to try Galactic Starfighter though. |
00:19.41 | Cyrannian | Wormy_STO: It is still F2P in most respects, just minor things require a subscription. Plus I think the storyline and cutscenes are amazing for a F2P game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZiL_dpWKHo |
00:19.43 | Technobliterator | do you guys have guilds in SWTOR and STO? |
00:19.45 | Monet | Apparently it's a new gamemode that does away with the on-rails nature of current space combat |
00:19.51 | Wormy_STO | Thats more than I've seen in 5 years |
00:19.57 | Monet | Technobliterator: Yes to both |
00:21.06 | Wormy_STO | "I spit on her remains" |
00:21.14 | Monet | Yeah at the very least, the F2P aspect of TOR doesn't hinder story progression, which has always been Bioware's best thing. |
00:23.58 | Aeo | Can we make it a thing for "Immortalism" to be the blanket word for worship of ascended and descended beings? |
00:25.16 | Monet | Xho's gone but I was sure we once talked about a word for when talking about both sides. |
00:25.35 | DrodoEmpire | Well Aeo that's... A little broad, perhaps |
00:25.47 | Aeo | Xho's gone? |
00:25.56 | Monet | Aeo: Not on IRC |
00:26.06 | Monet | He's still part of the community |
00:26.29 | Cyrannian | And while I love STO you can't really compare this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCBiPXTnJDk to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAUHs-Kbs5g&feature=youtu.be&t=96 |
00:26.52 | DrodoEmpire | Its like the term "Animism". Its a blanket term that frustratingly simplifies and acts as a blanket over literal *hundreds* of diverse beliefs and religions |
00:27.15 | DrodoEmpire | It might be good as a *category*, if not a term to define them all |
00:29.57 | Hachiman | Just use animism |
00:32.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
00:33.00 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, no I was comparing the two; Animism is *very* different from the proposed Immortalism |
00:33.13 | DrodoEmpire | Its just down the same vein in terms of usage |
00:33.27 | DrodoEmpire | That is as a blanket term |
00:36.25 | Wormy_STO | Cyrannian: STO is catching up though |
00:36.45 | Wormy_STO | they're trying anyway |
00:37.16 | Cyrannian | In some cases yes, though all the grinding that came with Delta Rising wasn't a step in the right direction |
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00:42.03 | The_Awayness | Cyrannian: Granted, part of that is the engine they've had to work with |
00:43.30 | The_Awayness | It's old and probably held together with spaghetti code |
00:44.06 | Cyrannian | I don't mean to insult STO or anything, along with Spore it's one of the few games that I don't really tire of. |
00:44.15 | The_Awayness | I know |
00:45.43 | Abysswalker25 | Wooo. Food. |
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01:04.47 | The_Randomness | Hello |
01:04.52 | GD12 | Hello everyone |
01:04.58 | GD12 | Welcome Abysswalker25 |
01:05.02 | GD12 | Welcome Back Aeo |
01:05.55 | Monet | hello |
01:08.22 | Abysswalker25 | Thanks and stuff. |
01:09.05 | GD12 | Do you have fiction? |
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01:10.01 | Abysswalker25 | Me? No, I don't. But I was thinking of doing something with this. http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-BlackPhoenix1825|2267936875 |
01:11.48 | Abysswalker25 | Not sure what I'll end up doing though lol. |
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01:13.02 | Monet | Hello |
01:13.25 | Charles_Murray | Hey! |
01:13.53 | The_Randomness | Hello |
01:14.08 | GD12 | Hey there! |
01:14.22 | Abysswalker25 | Yo. |
01:15.55 | Abysswalker25 | Does anyone use that RP channel? |
01:16.50 | GD12 | i think most rps occur on titanpad now |
01:16.51 | DrodoEmpire | #sporewiki-rp1 and two? |
01:17.12 | DrodoEmpire | Well I do with people here. Usually just ones for fun but meh |
01:17.39 | Abysswalker25 | A bit disappointing. And Titanpad? |
01:17.57 | GD12 | Titanpad is the most commonly used iirc |
01:18.37 | The_Randomness | I even use that for drafting my writing |
01:18.41 | DrodoEmpire | We can do one if you want. :p |
01:18.47 | DrodoEmpire | Like if that's what you want to do |
01:19.09 | GD12 | Titanpad is good because it can be used from everything from dialogue to big set piece things |
01:19.11 | GD12 | to drafting |
01:19.44 | Abysswalker25 | Its more, I'm unfamiliar with what Titanpad is. As for RP, I don't know. Maybe? I feel like I'd need to work out details. xD |
01:20.00 | Wormy_STO | Titanpad is good if you are wroting up chapters of a fiction you don't want to reveal on the wiki yet as well or write at your own pace |
01:20.11 | Wormy_STO | *writing |
01:20.44 | Wormy_STO | bye |
01:20.47 | The_Randomness | bye |
01:21.58 | Abysswalker25 | Oh I see. |
01:23.29 | Abysswalker25 | Drodo, did you make any fiction? |
01:23.54 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, boy... |
01:23.55 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
01:23.57 | DrodoEmpire | Did I ever |
01:24.06 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo Empire, for one |
01:24.30 | Cyrannian | I'll put up a link to Titanpad on the header |
01:24.32 | DrodoEmpire | The City State of Halifaxia and the Oirata Horde for the Fantasy Universe |
01:25.09 | DrodoEmpire | and The Kingdom of Belgica and the Zi Dynasty for the Brave New World universe (which has yet to be revived because Charles_Murray is lazi) |
01:25.20 | DrodoEmpire | This isn't counting characters |
01:25.20 | Abysswalker25 | Spore is difficult for me to view as a fantasy style. Seems more natural as sci-fi lol. |
01:25.26 | DrodoEmpire | Well... Yeah |
01:25.33 | *** topic/#sporewiki by Cyrannian -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Roleplay subchannels: #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ |
01:25.35 | DrodoEmpire | The main universe is Science Fiction |
01:25.59 | DrodoEmpire | But its important to note that in general the fictionverse play pretty fast and loose with the game mechanics |
01:26.04 | Comrade_Vinny | Abyssakwalker25: Welcome new comer? |
01:26.05 | DrodoEmpire | *fictionverses |
01:26.08 | Comrade_Vinny | *! |
01:26.08 | The_Randomness | heh |
01:26.09 | GD12 | SW has a scifi verse and a fantasyverse |
01:26.47 | DrodoEmpire | Brave New World is a smaller one based in the 1700's that'll hopefully be revived when SOMEONE decides to revive it... |
01:26.58 | DrodoEmpire | nudges Charles-Murray 's arm. |
01:27.09 | DrodoEmpire | *Charles_Murray |
01:27.21 | Charles_Murray | I am not sure you understand the size of my workload right now. xD |
01:27.24 | Abysswalker25 | Thank you, Vinny. And yeah I imagine. Just nee a feel for things. |
01:27.32 | Abysswalker25 | need* |
01:28.06 | DrodoEmpire | takes a whip out of his pocket and points it at Charles |
01:28.46 | GD12 | Ahh |
01:28.49 | The_Randomness | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°)? |
01:28.52 | GD12 | heres another thing about the ficverse |
01:29.03 | GD12 | Generally speaking large-scale activity happens during the summer and winter breaks |
01:29.16 | GD12 | Seeing as the majority of the wiki is engaged in university |
01:29.41 | DrodoEmpire | sighs, and puts it away |
01:29.45 | DrodoEmpire | Damnit Randomness |
01:29.46 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
01:30.34 | Abysswalker25 | So, wars and such? |
01:30.48 | GD12 | Wars are the most popular form of large scale fiction |
01:30.58 | DrodoEmpire | But many others can happen, of course |
01:31.20 | GD12 | ^ |
01:31.23 | DrodoEmpire | No nation or character ever got great from *just* fighting |
01:31.24 | DrodoEmpire | Well... |
01:31.29 | DrodoEmpire | Except for the Huns... |
01:31.31 | DrodoEmpire | And the Mongols... |
01:31.34 | DrodoEmpire | And the Romans... |
01:31.38 | DrodoEmpire | And Alexander... |
01:32.10 | Monet | You forget Pax Romana. |
01:32.25 | GD12 | The war thing happens because its generally action packed and many users like scifi weapons and or military scifi |
01:32.34 | Monet | Rome's colonisation of Africa was half-peace half-war if I recall. |
01:32.54 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah true |
01:32.59 | DrodoEmpire | Joke, anyhow. XD |
01:33.32 | Abysswalker25 | Reminds me, I need to make a way for the Umbris to act. I was gonna base them on rome, but that seems like its been done. xD Maybe I'll just take bits and pieces. |
01:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | Chinese civilization just sorta *appeared* at some point and then expanded slowly into roughly modern China. |
01:34.02 | GD12 | War fics are written in style on the continuum from team based action like youd see in Dungeons and Dragons, to curt and to the point battle reports, to giant set piece things made to evoke a feeling of epicness and awe kind of like Toltsoy's exposition of the Napoleonic wars |
01:34.03 | DrodoEmpire | Granted the first real centralized Chinese *state* was formed by war |
01:34.10 | Monet | We're all young adults and most of us are men, so the preference on warfics is probably to be expected XD |
01:34.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^^ |
01:34.19 | Charles_Murray | Then again, writing war fictions is a lot easier than other fictions. Wars have a clear beginning, a clear progression, clear events, and a clear ending. The same cannot be said about more... peaceful stories. Those tend to revolve around the characters themselves (harder to write) or other driving forces such as economics, diplomacy, commerce, intrigue, etc. |
01:34.27 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:34.31 | GD12 | ^ |
01:34.47 | DrodoEmpire | War's simple, stupid, and manly. That's why there's so damn much of it. XD |
01:34.49 | The_Randomness | I personally prefer peaceful stories |
01:34.59 | Monet | Wars do have a clear end sure, but sometimes it's hard to knwo when that end will finally come. |
01:35.04 | Abysswalker25 | As a fan of Fire Emblem, I like conflict. Lol. |
01:35.11 | The_Randomness | War's kind of lost any sort of novelty for me |
01:35.38 | Abysswalker25 | Of course I also like alliance type things. Setting those up can be fun. |
01:36.11 | GD12 | Alliances are very prevalent especially in war fics like the Great Xonexian Schism |
01:36.21 | GD12 | actuallly they are prevalent in all of thme |
01:36.26 | Charles_Murray | *heads that one* |
01:36.43 | GD12 | but i pinpointed GXS because the creation of the alliances and the alliance's prewar moments were extrmeeley explicitly detailed |
01:36.59 | Monet | Yeah. |
01:37.10 | Charles_Murray | Abysswalker25 : If you want to plot some fiction with France ( http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:France ), or any of its colonies, organizations, etc, I'd love to discuss it! |
01:37.15 | DrodoEmpire | laughs at Randomness's unmanlyness, before going back to stroking his man-beard and thinking about manly war stuff like guns |
01:37.36 | Monet | Historically, wars never ssimply "just happened", there was often a long chain fo events and consequences that led to them. |
01:38.28 | GD12 | But really, there is something for everyone on SW |
01:38.32 | Monet | Eve nseeminglysporadic wars between feudal kingdoms often had their roots deep in some ancient transgression that some peopel might not remember any more, and the transgressions of past wars kept the feud going. |
01:38.46 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^^^ |
01:38.48 | Charles_Murray | I think we might be overwhelming him just a bit. xD |
01:38.51 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:38.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah really |
01:38.56 | Abysswalker25 | Woah, space france. |
01:38.58 | The_Randomness | hm, not sure how hard I should trol with a newb here |
01:39.28 | Aeowriting | Abysswalker25 For an example of what GD just said, I come from like, the opposite school of thought as these people in every aspect of storytelling. I still survive. |
01:39.30 | DrodoEmpire | takes out a stunstick and yells "<:: ISOLATE!" through his vocoder. |
01:40.09 | The_Randomness | You are powerless before me pleb, for I am a moderino. ( ° ÍÊ͡°)ââ©â® |
01:40.12 | Abysswalker25 | I know all about wars for stupid reasons. I play CK2. Then again, everyone usually just wants my land. ._. |
01:40.21 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
01:40.45 | Monet | Another like soul joins us! |
01:40.53 | Charles_Murray | *loves CKII* |
01:40.56 | DrodoEmpire | CK2's pretty fun. |
01:41.03 | DrodoEmpire | I play a lot of Paradox games so yeah |
01:41.12 | GD12 | Same here |
01:41.15 | Abysswalker25 | I got the GoT mod for it, but I play vanilla too. |
01:41.49 | Monet | Abysswalker25: You will fit in quite well I think :) |
01:42.08 | GD12 | Aye |
01:42.18 | Aeowriting | I'm all like "Why everyone gotta be evil" and they're all "cuz it's more realistic" and I'm all "nuh uh" and they're all "uh huh" and then I remember that my fiction is horrifying and morally ambiguous and... actually, I don't shut up. |
01:42.25 | Abysswalker25 | We'll see if I even come around lol. But I agree, if something doesn't distract me. |
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01:43.15 | Aeowriting | Except the KSRO. The KSRO is not morally ambiguous at all. |
01:43.29 | GD12 | Abysswalker25 : do you want links to any warfics? |
01:43.40 | Monet | We subconsiously like waving our penises around. |
01:43.58 | Abysswalker25 | I know very very very little on what is even going on, or what happened in the past. I just read fractions of stories. |
01:44.11 | Abysswalker25 | So I wouldn't know what to ask for. |
01:44.23 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: wat |
01:44.32 | Charles_Murray | A lot of us would absolutely be willing to sit you down and offload years of lore into your lap. xD (like me!) |
01:44.34 | The_Randomness | ( Í° ÍÊ͡°) |
01:44.42 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Metaphorically speaking |
01:44.43 | GD12 | well i mean to see what battles look like? |
01:45.05 | GD12 | but yes like Charles_Murray we could just offload info into your lap |
01:45.08 | Aeowriting | Monet: Speak for yourself. I consciously like waving my penis around. |
01:45.12 | GD12 | *forcefeed you information till your brain explodes |
01:45.12 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:45.18 | DrodoEmpire | Wait what |
01:45.25 | DrodoEmpire | Eh fuck it |
01:45.28 | Charles_Murray | I'm not that bad D: |
01:45.32 | Monet | Aeowriting: THat still counts as you are giving in to your primal instincts. |
01:45.57 | Abysswalker25 | Hrm maybe. But perhaps it works for me if I RP. I can figure out these things that way if my Empire would be 'new'. |
01:46.15 | The_Randomness | Mine's too small to achieve any noticeable effect ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
01:46.19 | The_Randomness | Ok I'll stop now |
01:47.58 | Charles_Murray | Abysswalker25 : The fiction universe is very well networked, so it would be odd (and a little hard) for a new fiction to be completely disconnected from what has gone on. The best strategy I've seen is to work your fiction into existing lore and use those connections as a jumping-off point for more interactions. |
01:48.27 | GD12 | first contact fics are very fun |
01:48.51 | Aeowriting | Abysswalker25: Ignore everything I'm about to say, but imo, what the wiki has the fewest of is unironic good guys. There's like four. |
01:49.11 | Aeowriting | five actually. |
01:49.17 | Abysswalker25 | Unironic good guys? |
01:50.08 | Aeowriting | Heroes. |
01:50.23 | Abysswalker25 | Anti-heros not enough? :p |
01:50.45 | Aeowriting | There's like twenty. My main fiction is one. |
01:50.47 | Monet | We've got plenty of anti-heroes and heroes who have done really bad things. |
01:51.34 | Abysswalker25 | Probably because normal heros are kind of flat and can come off as sticking their noses in everyones business, things like that. |
01:51.36 | GD12 | what aeo is referring to is traditional heroes as opposed to anti-heroes |
01:51.59 | Aeowriting | Well, not entirely. |
01:52.21 | Aeowriting | My web serial outside of this revolves around a guy who eats people's souls and he's an unironic good guy. |
01:53.20 | Aeowriting | He's not very traditional. The issue is that he's genuinely well indented and not utterly delusional. He doesn't have any character breaking flaws and he almost always tries to do the right thing. |
01:53.26 | Abysswalker25 | Ah. Well, I like the gray area of morality, though I usually lean to lighter-gray. |
01:54.39 | Aeowriting | The problem is that, and this is a problem in fiction in general, every anti-hero these days is the same goddamn edgelord brooding on top of rooftops. Or, on thw wiki, you instead have Machievelian classists. |
01:55.01 | Aeowriting | We do not have brooding edgelords here. |
01:55.56 | The_Randomness | I have more of an issue with excessively dark/hopeless settings than angsty characters |
01:55.56 | Aeowriting | So, my advice, think of a reason for your antihero to do bad things other than contempt for other species, contempt for a slave class or lower classes, or realpolitik and self-interest. |
01:56.47 | Aeowriting | Because I could probably sort all but three or four of the empires here into one of those four categories. |
01:56.47 | Charles_Murray | The last two are pretty darn good reasons o.o |
01:57.23 | Monet | I wouldn't say realpolitik is an "edgy" quality - it's a form of pragmatism. |
01:57.39 | Aeowriting | No. It is definitely edgy. |
01:58.18 | Monet | Maybe the more extreme variations. |
01:58.40 | Aeowriting | Like the ones in the wiki. |
01:59.18 | Charles_Murray | While actual "mainstream" realpolitik is pretty much what drives actual international politics (hence "real politics"), which I inspire myself from greatly for my fiction. |
01:59.31 | Aeowriting | "I have to enslave everyone who attacks us so no one will attack us" is extreme realpolitik. It works for a credible antihero, but it is most definitely edgy. |
02:00.05 | Monet | Yeah. But that's extremist realpolitik. |
02:00.15 | Aeowriting | It's what your fiction does. |
02:00.22 | Aeowriting | And the DCP. |
02:00.28 | Abysswalker25 | Hm. |
02:00.30 | GD12 | I don't think any of these styles are inherently good or bad |
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02:00.37 | GD12 | They are written that way because the writer wantsto |
02:00.38 | Monet | THat's what a lot of pre-Christian nations did. |
02:00.55 | Aeowriting | And they were edgelords. |
02:01.12 | Aeowriting | I mean, they literally were lords and ladies and they fought with bladed weapons. |
02:01.13 | The_Randomness | hm |
02:01.22 | Aeowriting | Wait, no, I misread you. |
02:01.31 | Aeowriting | You said pre-christian. |
02:01.31 | The_Randomness | Out of curiosity, do you have issues with those who have an unsteady moral compass? |
02:01.54 | Abysswalker25 | Me or someone else? xD |
02:01.58 | The_Randomness | Not you |
02:02.00 | The_Randomness | Aeo |
02:02.01 | Aeowriting | I have issues with people with a moral compass I can't relate to on any level. |
02:02.19 | The_Randomness | Such as? |
02:02.20 | Abysswalker25 | All crimes are punishable by being hurled into the sun. :D |
02:02.22 | Abysswalker25 | Jk. |
02:02.42 | Monet | For reference the Imperium does give captured citizens a right to join the Imperium. |
02:03.21 | Monet | They jsut have to recite the oath of alliegence |
02:03.52 | Abysswalker25 | Which imperium is this? Theres like 6-7 maybe 26. |
02:03.56 | Aeowriting | Cody, the soul-eater I mentioned, is pragmatic good. I can get that, even though he will become a mass-murderer in the future. I can understand the moral logic behind killing hundreds to use their souls to help save the world. I cannot understand the moral reasoning behind enslaving the descendants of anyone who defies you, so I'm forced to assume the DI are just being assholes. |
02:03.58 | GD12 | Draconid Imperium |
02:04.05 | Abysswalker25 | Oh, I read about them. |
02:04.07 | Abysswalker25 | I like them. |
02:04.12 | Monet | :) |
02:04.28 | GD12 | Mine is the Drakodominatus Tyranny, Charles_Murray's is France |
02:04.52 | Monet | From the perspective of a citizen of an empire the Draconid Imperium is attacking it's a matter of who is more at fault for the invasion: THe Imperium for the harsh retaliation, or the empire's government for challenging them. |
02:05.10 | Aeowriting | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Early_History Speaking of grimdark though, new entirely retconned backstory of the Aeons. |
02:05.32 | Aeowriting | Monet: So they're delusional? |
02:05.38 | The_Randomness | the heck |
02:05.46 | Aeowriting | That works for a villain. |
02:05.53 | The_Randomness | What's your problem? |
02:06.43 | Aeowriting | It's not an insult. Loads of awesome characters are deluded in the sense I mean here. |
02:07.24 | Monet | I suppose it *could* be assholery - it's a staple fact from history that those who have a lot of power seem to like flexing it to the detrement of leser figures. |
02:07.50 | Aeowriting | But I think it's safe to say the DI's position on slavery does not come from an honest attempt to gauge the morality of their actions. |
02:08.18 | Aeowriting | Which is not to say they're not good characters. They are good... villains. |
02:08.33 | Monet | For not considering the morla implications? |
02:08.37 | Monet | moral* |
02:08.46 | GD12 | Well |
02:08.50 | The_Randomness | Does everything have to be heroes/villains? |
02:08.53 | GD12 | From the Imperium's perspective |
02:08.58 | GD12 | or from some other |
02:09.04 | Aeowriting | For doing so in a manifestly dishonest and self-serving way. |
02:09.04 | GD12 | the slaves are probably better off under the imperium |
02:09.05 | The_Randomness | I'm having an issue with the way you're framing this |
02:09.13 | GD12 | stable lifestyle with resources and security against aliens |
02:09.51 | GD12 | i also dont think that slaves are treated as lower than dirt in the imperium |
02:10.03 | Aeowriting | Draconis - Yo, alien, it just so happens that morality works out that I can enslave you for my own benefit and you can't do the same to me. Isn't that just the luckiest thing? |
02:10.29 | Abysswalker25 | Every alien has a different view on morality. |
02:10.49 | Monet | GD12: Agreed. I'm sure it's been established that as far as quality of life goes, Imperial sub-citizens have it pretty comfortable.compared to the vast majority of slaves in the 1st gig |
02:11.14 | Abysswalker25 | They might think slavery is a good thing, while others might not agree. So they are 'good' from their own prespective but they might not be to others. |
02:11.40 | GD12 | The only ones I consider to be expressly evil by the traditional definition of evil are the Xhodocto and the Dominatus |
02:11.52 | Monet | Aeo: If it eases your conscience, "slave" is a taboo word to use when talkign about sub-citizens. |
02:12.04 | Monet | In the DI at least |
02:12.19 | Abysswalker25 | Use indentured servants. :D |
02:12.41 | Aeowriting | But do they really think slavery is a good thing or are they pretending to while realizing subconsiously that it is not? |
02:13.00 | Abysswalker25 | That depends on the individual. |
02:13.00 | Aeowriting | Or are they not looking into it because it's convenient to think it is? |
02:13.03 | GD12 | They probably don't care |
02:13.03 | Monet | It's not all forced labour if that's what you mean |
02:13.23 | The_Randomness | I feel like you're trying to force your view of right/wrong onto this. |
02:13.44 | GD12 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_slavery |
02:13.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its a discussion. Its not a flamewar yet so I'd say its fine so far Randomness. :p |
02:13.58 | Aeowriting | has been an Atheist since early 2014 |
02:15.06 | The_Randomness | True, but it already feels needlessly tense. |
02:15.07 | Monet | In fact I'd say sub-citizen communities are closer to ethnic enclaves than ghettoes or slave camps. |
02:15.23 | Aeowriting | By the way I would like some feedback on this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Early_History |
02:15.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | Discussions about morality, religion, and slavery tend to. :p |
02:15.56 | The_Randomness | I suppose |
02:16.08 | Aeowriting | Lingur - I see, DI. In that case, I will conquer you last. |
02:16.17 | GD12 | I thought the discussions orignal intention was to introduce Abysswalker25 to the wiki |
02:16.21 | Abysswalker25 | Im just going to blame everything on those filthy rat-folk. |
02:16.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Drodo - Implying you could conquer the DI? |
02:17.10 | Aeowriting | Lingur - Someday. It may be in a hundred, or a thousand, or a million years, but someday. |
02:17.36 | Monet | Draconis - Tell you what. Wait until we're finished fighting the DCP.before you weigh up your chances. |
02:18.13 | Aeowriting | Riffrex - Status quo is god. You and the DCP will be allies again by Christmas. |
02:18.41 | Abysswalker25 | <.> |
02:18.52 | The_Randomness | Welcome to the chat :p |
02:18.55 | GD12 | In the meantime, Abysswalker25 is there anything else you want to know about any aspect of the ficverse? |
02:19.08 | Monet | Draconis - They *did* conquer an entire Imperial sector fro mthe inside. |
02:20.13 | Abysswalker25 | Uh, just call me Abyss, its easier. And, I'm just thinking on some things. |
02:20.20 | Aeowriting | Riffrex - Status quo is God. Mark my words. |
02:20.40 | GD12 | alright |
02:21.14 | Abysswalker25 | Milky Way might be a nice start. Though I'd need to know its current state. |
02:21.46 | GD12 | DCP is the main power in the Milky Way now |
02:21.50 | Monet | Currently under the iron fist of the DCP. |
02:22.03 | Aeowriting | They're Space 1984 |
02:22.16 | GD12 | Since it recently kicked out all those in the Milky Way who opposed and could threaten it |
02:22.27 | Abysswalker25 | DCP being short for? |
02:22.34 | GD12 | Delpha Coalition of PLanets |
02:22.47 | GD12 | the main fiction of Wormulon, or Wormy on the IRC |
02:23.00 | GD12 | An extremeley advanced Orwellian/Stalinist state |
02:23.02 | Abysswalker25 | Sounds horrifying. |
02:23.17 | Abysswalker25 | The name Wormulon, that is. |
02:23.21 | GD12 | Helps that they have one of the most powerful militaries in the gigaquadrant |
02:23.45 | GD12 | oh lol |
02:24.00 | GD12 | This is a quick summary of many of the empires on SW http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gigaquadrantic_Universal_Order_%282800%29 |
02:26.09 | Abysswalker25 | Why don't the Xhodocto just kill everyone? |
02:26.28 | Abysswalker25 | Then again, they might get bored. |
02:26.41 | Monet | There's endless theories as to why |
02:26.42 | GD12 | The ficverse ends if they do |
02:26.47 | The_Randomness | ^ |
02:27.09 | GD12 | The ficverse ends if a big bad wins a Gigaquadrant-scale conflict |
02:27.36 | Abysswalker25 | The truth is they enjoy pies made by lesser beings, since they somehow lack the ability to create such things. Therefore they act evil in order to steal pie. |
02:27.40 | GD12 | Since those conflicts generally imply the destruction of a fiction |
02:27.57 | GD12 | *sometimes |
02:28.05 | GD12 | aye hur |
02:28.51 | The_Randomness | I know they serve as an effective retcon device, but beyond that they bother me |
02:30.30 | Abysswalker25 | I'm guessing they're all insane to some degree so I'm just gonna say that. |
02:30.45 | Monet | One of them definitely is. |
02:31.21 | The_Randomness | They're basically just supernatural horrors with an intent to destroy everything. Standard stuff :p |
02:31.48 | Abysswalker25 | Oh. Yeah, pretty standard. |
02:34.10 | GD12 | any questions on the gig? |
02:35.26 | Comrade_Vinny_ | Hey GD! |
02:36.01 | Abysswalker25 | Uh.. idk. Who are the active 'major players' currently? |
02:36.40 | GD12 | Hey Comrade_Vinn_ |
02:36.59 | GD12 | CyraEmp |
02:37.01 | GD12 | Xonexi Allies |
02:37.12 | GD12 | = Draconid Imperium, France TIAF |
02:37.16 | GD12 | DCP |
02:37.34 | The_Randomness | I can't wait until this summer, then I can become an active participant in all this again |
02:37.48 | GD12 | Borealis also has its stories though i associate those less wih factions and more with characters |
02:37.53 | The_Randomness | And then I can stop feeling bad about my inactivity hopefully :p |
02:37.54 | GD12 | ^^ |
02:37.58 | GD12 | ^ |
02:37.59 | Abysswalker25 | Hopefully by then I'll have a grasp on things. |
02:38.15 | GD12 | Hopefully I'll be able to continue and finish AD during summer |
02:38.24 | Abysswalker25 | Who is most likely to try and assimilate the Umbris? |
02:38.28 | GD12 | since winter break ill be doing graduate school applications |
02:38.48 | Abysswalker25 | I just know one big empire is lurkin' around that would do that. |
02:38.58 | GD12 | What I've done with another user is have mercnearies from my now dead empire encounter his empire |
02:39.08 | GD12 | We could do something similar |
02:39.36 | GD12 | but there are many other first contact possibilities |
02:39.55 | GD12 | also depends on the characteristics and circumstances of your empire |
02:40.53 | Abysswalker25 | Well, I imagine they know by now aliens are around, but have been sort of sticking to their corner until contact is made. |
02:40.54 | Comrade_Vinny_ | GD12: Are you talking about me? o.O |
02:41.08 | GD12 | That was @ Abysswalker25 |
02:41.18 | Comrade_Vinny_ | [22:38] <GD12> What I've done with another user is have mercnearies from my now dead empire encounter his empire |
02:41.52 | GD12 | that was referring to darcysupremest, yours was peeps stumbling on ex-Tyranny peeps andTyranny tech |
02:42.00 | Comrade_Vinny_ | Yah |
02:42.05 | The_Randomness | I'm off for tonight, bye guys |
02:42.13 | GD12 | Which is also plausible given how a potential location of the Abyss's fic is in the Milky Way |
02:42.19 | Comrade_Vinny_ | I'm now gathering Corruptus Demon samples now ^^ |
02:42.27 | GD12 | nice! |
02:42.44 | Comrade_Vinny_ | I'm gonna make a super genetic freaky thing! |
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02:47.08 | GD12 | gtg |
03:14.25 | Abysswalker25 | Everyone is leaving aaaaa |
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03:14.33 | Abysswalker25 | Oh. |
03:21.21 | Aeo | im here |
03:53.02 | Aeo | test |
03:55.42 | TekDroid | pass |
04:18.52 | TekDroid | Are any admins still here? |
04:22.01 | TekDroid | Technobliterator: If you read this the link is missing for the featured captain this month |
04:22.32 | TekDroid | (The page is locked from editing in case anyone asks ( |
04:22.33 | TekDroid | *) |
04:31.12 | Aeo | TekDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aeoneonatrix#Early_History Can you look over this? |
04:34.21 | TekDroid | I like the changes, nice work. |
04:36.01 | TekDroid | Just a note for history if you hadn't seen, the Mineral Conflict got retconned out. I donât remember if you were involved in that. |
04:49.54 | Aeo | Rule 1: If you don't like something that happens in the wikiverse, don't worry, it'll be non-canon in two years. |
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04:51.25 | TekDroid | Hello |
04:53.05 | TekDroid | I believe Drodo chose to retcon it for a bunch of reasons, can't remember exactly why. |
04:53.24 | Aeo | I wasn't involved in it. |
04:53.30 | Aeo | I came on after it was done. |
04:55.20 | drom | Oh hello Tek |
04:56.07 | Aeo | drom Who are you? |
04:56.46 | drom | Someone who likes to be secretive. |
05:04.49 | TekDroid | Aeo: If you have any questions regarding changes in Delcath or Katar just ask. |
05:07.39 | Aeo | Has anything of note changed in Delcath? |
05:08.03 | Aeo | I know they've sided against the DCP in he Schism. |
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05:09.18 | TekDroid | Well... this is what Delcath looks like sometime after the war right now: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1d/Farengeto_Delcath_Map.png/revision/latest?cb=20150401043403 |
05:09.21 | Aeo | Has anything of note changed in Delcath? |
05:09.23 | Aeo | I know they've sided against the DCP in he Schism. |
05:10.04 | Aeo | I approve of that. |
05:10.51 | Aeo | Though I would like to get rid of the Gargator soon. I'm not going to do anything with them and they no longer serve the backstory function so I may as well make an awesome story out of them being gone. |
05:11.41 | TekDroid | Basically annex Ezlang after its collapse, conquered Gargator as part of a coalitionary holy war, and took over control of Mardor and their forner territories since FPC us gone and USF inactive. |
05:12.10 | Aeo | You did? |
05:12.19 | Aeo | (You being Ferengeto?) |
05:14.06 | TekDroid | Yeah. You gave me permission with the Gargator at some point before you left. The current occupiers for Mardor were gone so I took over as the new local power. |
05:14.13 | drom | Farengeto |
05:16.02 | Aeo | So what state are the gargator in? |
05:16.32 | Aeo | Like, how is the FR governing them? |
05:19.13 | TekDroid | Recovering from a disastrous war, which resulted in massive casulties and the death of their religious leadership, sparking a religious reformation. They're in relatively good shape, the old religion is rather supressed though and its followers have restrictions on it. |
05:19.35 | drom | TekDroid: Do you mind if I reserve engineer your clock app, just for in the name of science? |
05:19.54 | TekDroid | I can just give you the source code. :P |
05:20.36 | drom | No need to bother, I already unpacked the jar and I just downloaded a class decompiler. |
05:21.01 | TekDroid | Oh. Go ahead then, just give credit where necessary. :P |
05:21.02 | drom | But thanks tho. |
05:21.23 | TekDroid | I'm fairly reasonable with my code. :P |
05:21.45 | TekDroid | Just be warned that it probably looks horrid. |
05:21.59 | TekDroid | And is probably terribly inefficient. XD |
05:22.32 | drom | Eh it looks fine on my end though. |
05:22.51 | Aeo | Could I get a link to the story where this happened? |
05:25.19 | TekDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Transwarp_War I've been working on the backstory a bit recently, adding more build-up including an explanation for the vanguard. |
05:27.17 | TekDroid | Well really improving that war a lot in general. XD |
05:27.52 | drom | Jo: While you're one among the most experienced with Wikia's interaction with JS and CSS, and so far the only online designer with escalated user rights I know. Is it possible to load a JS script file on a single page? |
05:33.11 | drom | I know the deal of searching url locations and document scanning. But I find it more composite to put it all in a single page. |
05:36.42 | TekDroid | Charles_Murray: And I thought France was bad. I just learned South Korea went from the 1st Republic to the 6th Republic in less than 40 years. XD |
05:37.07 | drom | TekDroid: I'm a bit surprised that it's 2807 already |
05:37.49 | TekDroid | Yep. |
05:39.12 | Abysswalker25 | Gonna go. |
05:39.15 | Aeo | The Gargator are definitely not smart enough to deny slaughtering the people on that ship. |
05:39.19 | Abysswalker25 | Thank you for the introductions earlier. |
05:39.41 | Aeo | They'd be like - "Fuck yeah we did, for SPODE... wait, why are you pointing those guns at us?" |
05:39.46 | drom | Bye Abysswalker25. |
05:40.00 | Abysswalker25 | Bye drom. |
05:40.56 | drom | For a reason, "bye" feels and looks like a Russian word if you leave out the "good". |
06:01.38 | TekDroid | Aeo: Since you left Farengeto also became a hyperspatial intergalactic power. XD |
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06:26.53 | Aeo | Impydroid Hi |
06:27.04 | ImpyDroid | Assalam alaykum |
06:27.44 | drom | Russia akbar |
06:29.35 | ImpyDroid | *explosion intensifies* |
06:29.37 | drom | âLet's see if Right-hand works here |
06:31.36 | ImpyDroid | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Remove+kebab_d1a516_4990238.jpg Heh, funny thing is all these countries actually have different kinds of hijabs |
06:31.41 | ImpyDroid | Egypt even banned the burqa |
06:34.06 | drom | kek |
06:35.39 | ImpyDroid | Also they kinda ignored that Persians and Arabs are different cultures |
06:36.42 | drom | They both were peaceful and elegant until Whabbism happened. |
06:37.19 | ImpyDroid | Well not always peaceful but ua |
06:37.33 | drom | (I know persians were strong warmongers a long while ago, but I mean they are socially peaceful and tolerant) |
06:38.26 | drom | But it's thousands and hundreds years ago. And we didn't experience it on our own. So it's just a speculation. |
06:38.54 | ImpyDroid | These ladies are all Afghani hur |
06:39.11 | drom | Most akbar of them all hur |
06:39.21 | drom | After Syria and Iran |
06:40.03 | ImpyDroid | drom: We should make Greece resettle the area around Sparta, raise 300 kids there then throw them at Iran |
06:40.45 | ImpyDroid | There, problem fixed |
06:40.55 | drom | Everyone dies |
06:40.56 | drom | the end |
06:41.04 | ImpyDroid | Also they should be headed by Eva Brunne who will inspire them with their holy lesbian magic |
06:42.01 | ImpyDroid | >In 2007, the regular Iranian Army was estimated to have 350,000 personnel |
06:42.08 | drom | "headed" as in beheaded? |
06:42.20 | ImpyDroid | So we'll need 10500 Spartans |
06:42.39 | drom | Keep in mind that they fought against 1,000,000 persians. |
06:43.09 | ImpyDroid | So we'll need 100 Spartans |
06:43.14 | ImpyDroid | Even better |
06:44.25 | drom | 300 is more lethal |
06:44.51 | drom | 10500 is even more lethal and could wipe off the whole Middleterrian |
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06:48.34 | ImpyDroid | Gah now I get the mental image of Ayatollah Khomeini dressed like Xerxes from 300 |
06:48.37 | ImpyDroid | Hello! |
06:50.22 | ImpyDroid | We're discussing the amount of Spartans it would require to conquer modern Iran. |
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07:43.30 | drom | JS is so goddamn weak |
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07:58.28 | drom | ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/l8GYltG.png |
07:59.08 | ImpyDroid | Chinom nom nom |
08:01.51 | drom | TekDroid Comrade_Vinny_: http://i.imgur.com/nE7iP2T.png |
08:04.30 | drom | ImpyDroid: http://i.imgur.com/GwPePo0.png |
08:06.02 | ImpyDroid | Ohgodthatisbrilliant |
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10:57.26 | Abysswalker | Morning. |
11:00.32 | Liquid_InK | Evening |
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11:04.13 | Jepardi | Hi |
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11:27.45 | Wormy_ | hi |
11:28.05 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, Liquid_Ink: Look how tiny the Alpha and Beta-Quadrants are https://christopherlbennett.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/mandel-orion-arm-overlay.jpg |
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11:38.37 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Space is big. Really, really big. |
11:40.09 | Liquid_Ink | Ghelae: What did I miss? |
11:40.14 | Wormy_ | it just goes on and on |
11:40.25 | Ghelae | [12:28] <Wormy_> Ghelae, Liquid_Ink: Look how tiny the Alpha and Beta-Quadrants are https://christopherlbennett.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/mandel-orion-arm-overlay.jpg |
11:40.28 | Abysswalker | Wooo. Space. |
11:40.42 | Liquid_Ink | Oh yeah |
11:40.49 | Liquid_Ink | Is that just in the one galaxy? |
11:40.55 | Liquid_Ink | I assume so |
11:41.05 | Ghelae | Just a tiny little part of our galaxy, yes. |
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11:47.16 | Wormy_ | Thats the Orion Spur, and probably not even all of it |
11:47.41 | Wormy_ | With an overlay of the Star Trek Star Charts poster |
11:49.19 | Wormy_ | hello |
11:55.16 | Wormy_ | Though according to Star Trek Star Charts, the Federation had explored 20,000 and a bit square light years around the Federation |
11:55.51 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
11:56.03 | Technobliterator | right, today, I really need to write those loron sections : | |
11:56.23 | Wormy_ | http://i48.tinypic.com/2mxe82p.jpg |
11:56.31 | Abysswalker | I too, must write. Its difficult trying to think up every aspect of a new race to fit into the fiction however. ._. |
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11:57.46 | OluapWorker | So much for "i'll get one done by the end of the day" |
11:57.53 | OluapWorker | Day ended and I see no section |
11:59.00 | Technobliterator | I can get two done today to make up for it |
12:03.56 | OluapWorker | off u go then |
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12:07.16 | Hachiman | Hai |
12:07.18 | Abysswalker | Hello rabbit-man. |
12:08.04 | Hachiman | Rabbit-man |
12:08.21 | Hachiman | Didn't think you knew about the character hur |
12:08.34 | OluapWorker | ~cuddle Hachiman |
12:08.34 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
12:08.39 | Hachiman | <3 |
12:09.43 | Abysswalker | Oh I read about him and his filthy rabbit man ways. |
12:09.51 | Abysswalker | Sort of, at least. |
12:10.46 | Hachiman | Which reminds me |
12:10.59 | Hachiman | Gotta sorta update his page since he has an established race now |
12:11.08 | Hachiman | The TÄ |
12:11.40 | OluapWorker | You deliberately saying you'll update your own pages |
12:11.42 | OluapWorker | As if |
12:12.57 | Abysswalker | I feel like I should make a flag. Hm. |
12:15.28 | Hachiman | OluapWorker: yeh well dun |
12:15.30 | Abysswalker | Other than the milky way galaxy, what does Andromea have going on for it atm? |
12:16.19 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11133723_414635538697147_113209227677923960_n.png?oh=2fd0a0680e7adb1294985882018fb7cf&oe=559C035E&__gda__=1436910507_9936cf8d57f4af4e8b25cd39482403d9 |
12:16.23 | OluapWorker | wut |
12:16.38 | OluapWorker | Oh |
12:16.40 | OluapWorker | So you did |
12:16.41 | Hachiman | Various civilisations, like the Draconid Imperium, Brood of War, Divinarium, Tertamians, and others |
12:17.08 | OluapWorker | Why don't you use that enthusiasm to update Hachi, Khadya, Dragostea, Aurora and Alfgund's pages |
12:17.25 | Hachiman | nah ur gud m8 |
12:18.02 | OluapWorker | Of course |
12:18.18 | Hachiman | Gimme summary of what happened over the Vampire War and I will |
12:18.41 | Hachiman | I mean I do remember the War, I just need to know what order things came in |
12:19.46 | Hachiman | And summary of Angels events as well hur |
12:20.05 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11130155_691227160999856_455851645513806420_n.jpg?oh=9d496b4093aaa72f79ab198afa3cf7ca&oe=55978B33&__gda__=1437053539_2caacc224dccb2e77678fa09a32689c5 |
12:22.32 | OluapWorker | If you mean it then rite |
12:24.02 | Hachiman | Why would I not |
12:25.32 | OluapWorker | cus ur top lazi |
12:26.02 | Hachiman | I'll have to give Hachitao more clothing at some point |
12:26.14 | Hachiman | Feels weird for him to not have clothes while his counterpart does |
12:27.03 | OluapWorker | They don't have to necessarily be the same |
12:27.13 | Hachiman | No but still |
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12:38.41 | ImpyDroid | Hello |
12:39.19 | OluapWorker | ipmu |
12:39.21 | OluapWorker | impu even |
12:42.24 | Hachiman | Hai Imp |
12:42.43 | Hachiman | I'm gonna redesign Fantasy!Hachi to give him a more Asianesque feel |
12:42.51 | Hachiman | And also more clothes hur |
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13:09.20 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/SihHsG3.png?1 Looks better when viewed in Spore but what do you guys think |
13:09.35 | Abysswalker | Rice hats! |
13:09.59 | Abysswalker | Is pretty neat though |
13:10.13 | OluapWorker | Clotho - husbando |
13:10.41 | Hachiman | husbando/10 |
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13:31.05 | Abysswalker | Making clothes for a queen type character is difficult.. D: |
13:32.05 | Hachiman | Aye |
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13:35.36 | OluapWorker | spu |
13:35.41 | Xho | u |
13:36.24 | Xho | My throat is well and truly as dry as anything |
13:36.36 | Xho | In fact it's so dry I can pull off a Groot voice |
13:37.40 | OluapWorker | nasti |
13:39.39 | Hachiman | Xho: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/24/HachitaoImage.png/revision/latest?cb=20150407131248 hav new hachi 2 cheer u up |
13:39.42 | Hachiman | Fantasy Hachi btw |
13:40.16 | Xho | Looking kinda Yoshimitsu-ish |
13:40.22 | Xho | Except the skeleton face of course |
13:40.49 | Hachiman | Aye |
13:47.02 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Hat |
13:48.10 | Hachiman | It's more than just hat |
13:49.15 | OluapWorker | Currently expanding the Indoc page |
13:49.54 | OluapWorker | I feel like their relations are a bit lacking |
13:49.58 | OluapWorker | needs more people |
13:53.00 | OluapWorker | At this point I'm regretting killing off nearly all my villains, now I barely have any at all |
13:53.29 | Hachiman | c |
13:53.35 | Hachiman | What did I tell you hur |
13:53.40 | OluapWorker | Not this |
13:54.00 | Hachiman | Also updated Hachitao's page |
13:54.47 | OluapWorker | bullshi dat |
13:55.09 | OluapWorker | u forgot relations |
13:55.18 | Hachiman | Fuck |
13:55.36 | Hachiman | Who do I need to add |
13:56.39 | OluapWorker | Alfgund, Khadya, Dragostea, Aurora, Bastion |
13:56.44 | OluapWorker | Clamak if you want |
13:56.57 | OluapWorker | Plus Mortium if you think it's necessary |
13:57.01 | OluapWorker | And update Varelos |
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14:01.40 | AdmiralPanda | oh right that guy exists |
14:01.49 | AdmiralPanda | fuck timezones, to be frank |
14:03.22 | Hachiman | Eh? |
14:05.43 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Outside the hat, I like Hachi's new pants |
14:05.58 | ImpyDroid | Especially the armouring |
14:06.04 | AdmiralPanda | Bastian |
14:06.08 | AdmiralPanda | completely forgot that guy exists |
14:07.16 | Hachiman | The armour is the only thing remaining of Hachi's old outfit hur |
14:07.18 | Hachiman | And the sword |
14:13.37 | AdmiralPanda | brb |
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14:15.45 | AdmiralPanda | Back |
14:16.07 | TekDroid | Hello |
14:29.00 | ImpyDroid | I mean the plates on the pants |
14:32.43 | Xho | "While we all have lots of bands who influence still... we all rip off Meshuggah!" actual song lyrics |
14:33.25 | Hachiman | That sounds familiar |
14:33.50 | Xho | Devin Townsend |
14:34.00 | Xho | Great song as well |
14:34.47 | Xho | Quite long as well |
14:40.49 | OluapWorker | I'm also bothered by now the Indocs have not been in a major war since the Borealis one |
14:40.58 | OluapWorker | Feels like they're left out of everything important |
14:41.29 | AdmiralPanda | snickers in the background |
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14:44.40 | drom | I'm supposed to go down to the grocery store and buy myself some food but I feel like a wreck. |
14:45.06 | Xho | Welcome to my life for the past 4 months |
14:46.54 | drom | At least I've got 2 cans of gulasch soup. |
14:47.45 | drom | But the creme fraiche has passed the best before date. |
14:47.50 | drom | And I don't dare to open it. |
14:48.31 | Comrade_Vinny | Best Before Dates are for pussies! |
14:48.54 | drom | Comrade_Vinny: It passed the date 1 month ago. |
14:49.16 | Comrade_Vinny | Just take a pencil and change the date, it will be fine |
14:49.21 | Comrade_Vinny | :D |
14:49.29 | Xho | #logic |
14:50.45 | Xho | If this was the times during the Black Death I would have been Patient Zero |
14:51.20 | OluapWorker | u need burd mask |
14:51.27 | AdmiralPanda | I always found the term "patient zero" silly tbh |
14:51.46 | AdmiralPanda | I mean if you're the first person infected, aren't you then patient 1? |
14:51.56 | TekDroid | Yep |
14:51.57 | drom | If I get either diarrhea or salmonella from the expired fraiche, I'll swear that I won't trust Canadians ever again. |
14:52.06 | Comrade_Vinny | ^.^ |
14:52.19 | Xho | OluapWorker: I do actually have one |
14:52.25 | Comrade_Vinny | Salmonella isn't with soup. It's with raw chicken... -_- |
14:52.47 | Xho | Where it is currently I don't know |
14:53.03 | OluapWorker | it flew off |
14:53.08 | OluapWorker | because you are a DUMMKOPF |
14:53.12 | Xho | noooh |
14:53.19 | Xho | But yeah I've been ill for a third of the year now |
14:53.20 | Xho | A third |
14:54.16 | OluapWorker | Can't expand the Indoc page anymore now |
14:54.21 | Hachiman | There, Fantasy Hachi's relations updated |
14:54.24 | OluapWorker | At least it should look slightly more respectable |
14:54.25 | Hachiman | With new characters and quotes |
14:54.30 | OluapWorker | âThey are possibly our closest allies. They know not to stand in our way.â - Kicath Empire |
14:54.33 | OluapWorker | Needs update this |
14:54.37 | drom | The back of my head hurts ngh |
14:54.50 | OluapWorker | Hachiman: only took u 5 lifetimes |
14:55.06 | Xho | âThey WERE possibly our closest allies. They STILL know not to stand in our way.â - Kicath Empire Kithworto - u silly silly north koreans |
14:55.26 | OluapWorker | Koluap - but im bombin ur worlds as we speek |
14:55.46 | Xho | Kithworto - can u not |
14:55.57 | OluapWorker | Koluap - oops wrong kicath |
14:56.08 | Xho | I'll remove it for now and think of one later |
14:56.17 | Xho | Cognitive function is down |
14:57.05 | OluapWorker | Those relations |
14:57.12 | OluapWorker | Clotho - don't make me murder u |
14:57.27 | Hachiman | Hachi - kek |
14:57.46 | drom | Comrade_Vinny: I swear that the zodiac horoscope are true. As I'm born at Cow's year, the horoscope said that I would've many stomach problems but luckly to have more than one sack. |
14:58.17 | Xho | Longinus - still hav no fukin clue wat u r |
14:58.37 | Xho | I can imagine Longinus being a good Drax the Destroyer |
14:58.41 | OluapWorker | One char I forgot to list |
14:58.44 | OluapWorker | Yurthez |
14:58.49 | Comrade_Vinny | LOL |
14:58.51 | Hachiman | FUCK |
14:59.19 | AdmiralPanda | stop whipping the poor bunny |
14:59.21 | Xho | "I recognize this animal. We'd roast them over a flame pit as children. Their flesh was quite delicious." |
14:59.42 | OluapWorker | -Vixaatus about Pelagrios |
14:59.51 | AdmiralPanda | anyway, once I figure out a name, I'll actually be uploading fiction for the first time since Dino was active |
14:59.53 | drom | AdmiralPanda: Apply the bun to your face now. |
15:00.00 | Xho | Pelagrios - i'm actively marinated as well |
15:00.09 | OluapWorker | hur |
15:00.11 | OluapWorker | rite nom |
15:00.20 | AdmiralPanda | not applyin dat bun to face |
15:00.41 | drom | Comrade_Vinny: Year of the Ox, not cow. |
15:00.44 | AdmiralPanda | depending on which bun, that's either Sor or Clotho's job |
15:02.00 | Hachiman | Right now F5 those relations |
15:02.04 | Hachiman | I added Clamak and Mortium |
15:02.12 | Hachiman | AND FUCK STILL HAVEN'T ADDED YURTHEZ |
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15:03.34 | Hachiman | Right NOW F5 those relations |
15:03.35 | drom | AdmiralPanda: It's his pleasure though. |
15:04.09 | Hachiman | Now time for Alfgund |
15:04.13 | Xho | What about Longinus hur |
15:04.34 | Hachiman | Fuck sake |
15:05.44 | drom | dawh http://media.tumblr.com/e4f5bab121dd76d978b7e15e4a7e2a2e/tumblr_inline_nad0tgB5Qh1qbcxfk.jpg |
15:07.29 | Comrade_Vinny | Mmm... Delicious bunny meat... |
15:07.52 | Hachiman | Right that's it |
15:08.00 | Hachiman | Last time I am updating those relations |
15:08.06 | Hachiman | F5 |
15:12.33 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/zgXMKT9.jpg |
15:13.26 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/EhRSWZe.jpg |
15:13.27 | Imperios | Brilliant |
15:18.40 | drom | Xho: This seems to be something the people over at the HVAC and Transport engineering on my school would totally do. http://i.imgur.com/QaCzJwJ.jpg |
15:18.50 | Xho | ew |
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15:19.47 | Wormy_ | hi |
15:20.54 | drom | Hi |
15:21.43 | drom | Xho: For non-whites, replace the silver paint with gold paint. |
15:21.46 | drom | #truth |
15:23.14 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/TlgZnbt.jpg |
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15:25.39 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/slrrdcj.jpg |
15:26.08 | Imperios | drom: Helvetica BELONGS SO THE ISLAMIC STATE |
15:26.11 | Imperios | AND SO IS ARIAL |
15:26.50 | drom | *prolonged "No!* |
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15:31.24 | drom | imperios: the text's probably nsfw for you but damn it's glorious http://i.imgur.com/kP777Xk.jpg |
15:31.46 | Imperios | God what |
15:33.55 | Wormy_ | And WWIII begins http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32202771 |
15:37.40 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/1SwZYV9.jpg |
15:38.33 | Wormy_ | lol |
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15:40.07 | Wormy_ | Just three people alive from the 1800s now |
15:40.10 | Wormy_ | Hi |
15:40.22 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/32200247 |
15:41.04 | Monet | I heard. |
15:42.07 | drom | Xho Hachiman Monet: http://i.imgur.com/WtJms9y.jpg |
15:42.19 | Wormy_ | "She bowled until she was 104" |
15:42.37 | Xho | ew |
15:42.38 | Wormy_ | I think keeping active is the main key |
15:43.55 | AdmiralPanda | not being dicked over by various diseases goes a long way to it. |
15:44.04 | Wormy_ | I aim to see 2100 but since I've been drinking I'm less optimistic |
15:44.19 | Xho | At the rate my body's going I aim to see 2016 |
15:44.25 | Monet | I hear a little acohol on occasion can be good for you. |
15:44.36 | Wormy_ | yeah, a little... |
15:45.02 | Wormy_ | Also sitting on a computer probably isn't doing me any good |
15:45.56 | drom | Monet: Now I imagine white redneck trash suffering from major alcohol poisoning because of that sentence. |
15:46.53 | Monet | Moderation is key to everything |
15:47.15 | drom | Brb going to the grocery store |
15:48.28 | Wormy_ | I might have my brain cryogenically frozen and left for future people to map into software, I could be useful as an interstellar ship |
15:48.49 | Comrade_Vinny | Wormy_: I'm pretty sure either alcohol, dangerous driving, cigarets, weed or a brillant combination of these will kill me before. |
15:49.06 | Xho | Hachiman: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11143731_452654788230888_973430578146715675_n.jpg?oh=a97cc47c3e6accadef45d98f2fef9130&oe=55ABBF3D&__gda__=1436615624_5b348c17a22076939a4506c626ecee0b |
15:49.28 | Xho | Common cold's gonna kill me |
15:50.13 | drom | Dank memes are going to kill me before. |
15:50.25 | Wormy_ | I'm quite impractical, sometimes I think I'll kill myself in a stupid accident |
15:50.51 | Wormy_ | Or maybe the reptiles with come after me |
15:51.17 | Comrade_Vinny | My only regret? Dying sober... |
15:51.23 | Wormy_ | In fact I've come close to dying out of my own stupidity before |
15:51.25 | Monet | Therefore what is important is what we do i nthe present. |
15:51.42 | drom | Wormy_: Coat your room in hinges and aluminium and you'll be fine. |
15:51.53 | Wormy_ | lol |
15:52.24 | Wormy_ | One time I leaned far too over my bunkbed |
15:52.31 | Wormy_ | and fell on my head |
15:52.35 | Monet | Ow |
15:52.43 | Wormy_ | I don't know why I didn't break my neck |
15:52.52 | Wormy_ | It also knocked me out cold |
15:53.19 | Wormy_ | Mind you, I was so young, IO was probably too elastic |
15:53.22 | Wormy_ | *I |
15:53.31 | Wormy_ | If I did that now I would probably die |
15:56.17 | Wormy_ | But maybe I did die |
15:56.28 | Wormy_ | In one branch of multiverses |
15:56.46 | Wormy_ | Maybe we all die every day, in some version of events |
15:57.41 | Monet | I've seen this theory before |
15:58.16 | Monet | And the idea that only when the probability of death is (or more optimistically is almost) 1, that is when we die. |
16:02.04 | Wormy_ | yeah |
16:02.34 | Wormy_ | I buy into the spacetime block idea anyway |
16:02.51 | Wormy_ | past, present and future all exist at once |
16:03.11 | Wormy_ | That makes us eternal |
16:03.32 | Wormy_ | but not omnipresent |
16:03.36 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11102635_1244989162190807_8115493218640306697_n.jpg?oh=668d499cf9399eb2cdc7d1901471e92b&oe=55E43B78 |
16:05.54 | OluapWorker | REMOVE |
16:07.49 | AdmiralPanda | ok, FFXIV has hands-down the funniest boss fight I've ever seen in an MMO |
16:08.03 | AdmiralPanda | the core mechanic is firing giant bananas out of a catapult at an equally giant gorilla |
16:08.41 | Monet | Hmm |
16:08.57 | Monet | Stormstout Brewery was pretty funny but that is a pretty inventive fight. |
16:09.25 | AdmiralPanda | the reasoning being he does constant AoE damage around himself until you feed him a banana, at which point he calms down and you can fight him |
16:10.24 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Alfgund_Stonesoul#Relations Behold |
16:10.35 | Hachiman | Updated with new quotes and characters |
16:10.50 | Xho | Kalarah - tl;dr dai |
16:11.01 | OluapWorker | alfgoobd |
16:11.03 | OluapWorker | goond even |
16:11.26 | AdmiralPanda | heh if Bastian ever does anything again I need to make his armour like twice as big |
16:11.29 | Monet | In Stomrstout Brewery one of the first bosses is a monkey lord whom you msut draw out by killing his subordinates; one way you can do that is by rolling gaint beer kegs int ogroups of them, which explode covering them all in booze. |
16:11.58 | Monet | Said kegs are delivered lumberjack-on-river style |
16:12.06 | AdmiralPanda | heh not bad |
16:12.36 | OluapWorker | Disliked -> Yurthez |
16:12.38 | Monet | And hwen you beat him all them onkeys declare you the new Ook and start a synchronised dance party. |
16:12.43 | OluapWorker | Yurthez - ungrateful lil shit |
16:12.53 | Hachiman | Alfgund - fukn elf |
16:13.26 | OluapWorker | Yurthez - fukn humies |
16:14.05 | OluapWorker | My Tibias quote fits even more nicely no |
16:14.05 | OluapWorker | w |
16:15.27 | Hachiman | If Alfgund was to ever retire from being an Inquisitor it is kinda likely he'd become a bard hur |
16:15.42 | Hachiman | Except without the whole seductive thing because he's ugly as fuck |
16:15.51 | OluapWorker | Tibias - sing other non-sequiturs 4 me |
16:15.59 | AdmiralPanda | needs spoon |
16:16.00 | Xho | Pelagrios - trust me with enough rum anything becomes attractive |
16:16.27 | Comrade_Vinny | ^ |
16:16.52 | OluapWorker | now u go update another paeg |
16:16.52 | Hachiman | fug off |
16:16.52 | Hachiman | I'm going to take a break now |
16:16.52 | Monet | http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4N1u65K7k_U/hqdefault.jpg not all bards are seducers |
16:16.52 | OluapWorker | ANOTHA |
16:17.02 | OluapWorker | take a break from doin no effort whatoevur |
16:17.03 | OluapWorker | lazi |
16:17.12 | Hachiman | sez u |
16:17.23 | Hachiman | i dunt c anuva ice coob trial today |
16:17.28 | Hachiman | u fukn lazy cunt |
16:17.36 | OluapWorker | cus ur needed for next section |
16:17.55 | OluapWorker | WAT NOW U SHITE |
16:18.09 | Xho | rekt |
16:19.22 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1960093_10153837083850476_2130003971404877491_n.png?oh=a9a73665802fa76e6826d33a8518320a&oe=55B7D1C7 |
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16:30.21 | TekDroid | Hello |
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16:32.09 | drom | Hello. |
16:32.17 | Monet | Hello |
16:32.26 | Hachiman | Hello Aeo |
16:32.55 | Aeondroid | Hi |
16:34.02 | drom | I feel like I'm going to pass out. |
16:35.59 | Hachiman | http://pastie.org/10078617 So I came across this |
16:37.10 | OluapWorker | A mere glance and it already reeks on weeaboo |
16:37.11 | Monet | I'm conflicted as to whether or not the kanji is neccessary. |
16:37.14 | OluapWorker | Not reading it hur |
16:37.24 | Hachiman | Read it, it's great |
16:37.34 | OluapWorker | go edit u fuk |
16:37.40 | Hachiman | It incorporates gender issues into it as well |
16:38.18 | Monet | "The art was performed by the most efficient of swordsmen and if the sword passed the standards it was given a recommendation" > is he implying European swordsmiths didnt' care abotu quality? |
16:38.29 | Hachiman | Aye |
16:38.35 | AdmiralPanda | some of it was ok but most of it was absolute piss |
16:38.42 | AdmiralPanda | so yeah, weaboo to the max |
16:39.12 | Hachiman | Perhaps the funniest thing I've read today |
16:40.02 | drom | Speaking of weaboo. http://i.imgur.com/JtWg8gP.gif |
16:41.27 | Monet | Yeah I get the impression he sourced the behaviour of knights from19th century historical tracts. |
16:41.52 | OluapWorker | Dunno what to do now |
16:41.53 | AdmiralPanda | to be fair knights had pretty shit behaviour even from the 13th century |
16:42.04 | AdmiralPanda | but thing is, most knights did actually serve honourably |
16:42.31 | AdmiralPanda | you just had a few bad eggs, and if their actions ever got found out they faced heavy censure from the rest of the order |
16:42.33 | Monet | Chivalry was more important and useful outside of battle. |
16:42.41 | AdmiralPanda | chivalry was mostly battle |
16:42.53 | AdmiralPanda | like, 8 of the 11 dictates were about battle |
16:43.07 | Monet | Guess it didn't work very wel lthen. |
16:43.40 | AdmiralPanda | oh it worked quite fine, because remember that chivalry only applied to good christian knights dealing with other good christian knights |
16:45.13 | Monet | "Samurai were also forbidden from eating before battle, because upon death a personâs bowels are emptied which would lead to a dishonourable death." > I'm going to say the EUropean knights were smarter here. But these are cultural differences. |
16:46.29 | Monet | For one it wasn't as customary in medieval Europe to disembowel your opponents, so your food is less likely to come psilling out of your entrails. |
16:47.39 | AdmiralPanda | he means shitting onesself |
16:47.48 | AdmiralPanda | which very much happens when you die |
16:47.57 | Monet | Ah |
16:48.58 | Monet | And the education thing I could have sworn that the first few years a knight-to-be spends in training (during their page and squire years) primarily invovles learning history, general education, reading and writing |
16:49.22 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Postmodernism is flawed and irrational |
16:49.42 | Wormy_ | Thats the first problem I see with the essay |
16:49.48 | drom | I want hundreds of these. http://d1.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2015/4/7/992d171e-f386-4fc6-9c96-2887c6977d20/original.jpg |
16:49.57 | Wormy_ | I could divulge deeply into why |
16:50.16 | AdmiralPanda | mhm, knights did indeed have very good educations |
16:50.38 | AdmiralPanda | especially coming from noble families during a time where the primary means to education were being religious, being a noble or being a muslim |
16:50.38 | OluapWorker | The problem with the essay is that it's biased and written by a clear weeaboo |
16:50.45 | AdmiralPanda | ^ that too |
16:50.47 | OluapWorker | Trying to analyse it is a waste of time |
16:50.52 | AdmiralPanda | but we can point out as many flaws as we like :P |
16:51.54 | Hachiman | You wanna know something else |
16:52.02 | Hachiman | It was writing by a satirist as satire hur |
16:52.51 | AdmiralPanda | To paraphrase Yahtzee: you don't do parody by copying people. You do parody by pointing out how stupid they are, copying them is just copying them. |
16:52.57 | OluapWorker | "I was just pretending to be retarded" |
16:53.26 | AdmiralPanda | the fact that our first impression was "weaboo fagit" means he's missed the mark |
16:54.27 | Monet | A situation like this needs background to show that this is not him genione - somethin not easily done when the article is plucked out of thin air |
16:55.14 | AdmiralPanda | there's also the phrasing |
16:55.17 | Monet | him being genuine* |
16:55.55 | Monet | I do see emotionally charge lenaguage. |
16:55.58 | Monet | charged* |
16:56.24 | AdmiralPanda | for example, when we go on about "grorious nippon steer," no doubt that's parody, but he's actually just using the arguments that weaboos use |
16:58.02 | Monet | I'd imagine folding steel 100 times for one sword would get *really* tedious. |
16:58.59 | AdmiralPanda | also stupid |
16:59.05 | Monet | That's even if you still have a sword that doesn't fall to pieces shortly after it is lifted fro mthe anivl. |
16:59.08 | AdmiralPanda | but yeah, very tedious |
16:59.46 | Monet | WHen it comes to a professional craft, time and care is nice, but so is efficiency. |
16:59.46 | AdmiralPanda | because thing is, you don't make all the folds at the same time, you make one fold, put it back in the forge, weld it back up, then fold it, repeat ad finem |
16:59.54 | Wormy_ | "Since people function at lower capacity while hungry" |
17:00.06 | Wormy_ | Not in my case |
17:00.24 | Monet | I've seen peopel get irritable when hungry. |
17:00.27 | AdmiralPanda | let me rephrase: you /can't/ make the folds when the metal is cold |
17:00.36 | AdmiralPanda | it actually doesn't work that way |
17:00.47 | Monet | Steel isn't that kind of material, no. |
17:00.50 | Wormy_ | I work better, I can do more exercise, when hungry |
17:00.59 | AdmiralPanda | and by cold I mean any colder than will allow the metal to fuse when you hit it with a hammer |
17:01.33 | Wormy_ | If I decide to run in the evening then I have a dinner afterwards |
17:02.13 | Monet | THeoretically, the idea of not eating before battle, while I guess leads to a more dignified death, puts the body at a disadvantage in the extremely strenuous environment called the battlefield. |
17:02.22 | Wormy_ | Panda is right of course, the colder metals are the more brittle they usually become |
17:02.49 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy_: It's not even that, it's that the folding process actually doesn't work if it's not hot enough |
17:03.20 | Wormy_ | The metal becomes more ductile |
17:03.35 | Monet | In such an intense environment, you *need* to be at your best. |
17:03.49 | Wormy_ | Silly postmodernists and their antiscience stance |
17:05.18 | Monet | "While European warriors were usually dirty, unshaven and wore armour which featured phallic imagery which was used to keep women and minorities down" one does not hold or attend a banquet looking like a slob. |
17:06.12 | Wormy_ | From what I read the knights did keep clean, or clean by the standards of the day |
17:06.16 | AdmiralPanda | and they shaved a LOT |
17:06.31 | AdmiralPanda | beards were not a thing |
17:06.35 | Wormy_ | And as for phallic imagery, what culture doesn't have it? |
17:06.39 | Monet | Wormy_: They had more opportunity for bathing so yeah |
17:06.48 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy_: Hachi-culture |
17:07.07 | AdmiralPanda | actually that has the imagery but not the practical application |
17:07.19 | Wormy_ | And what great psychological harm does it really cause? You can't just make a claim or correlation and not use evidence to criticise it |
17:08.28 | Wormy_ | lol |
17:08.34 | Monet | As I said this sounds like 19th century literature where knights were either the shining examples of gentlemanlyness in romantic novels, or the uncouth, uncultered asswipes of a historical tract. |
17:08.48 | Wormy_ | Falsify is a better word |
17:09.29 | Wormy_ | I'm glad its satire, but i'm sure people like that exist |
17:09.47 | Wormy_ | I've not met many weeaboos luckily |
17:10.00 | AdmiralPanda | the funny thing is, the samurai only developed their whole honour and loyalty thing AFTER the sengoku-jidai, and they only did it because peasant militarisation took their job |
17:10.22 | Imperios | http://cs622221.vk.me/v622221086/27bab/v5MrVthP0GI.jpg Okay I do not know what it is but it looks pretty |
17:10.44 | AdmiralPanda | that would be a stock photo |
17:11.31 | Imperios | Hachiman: Bah, we have been fighting them off for centuries |
17:11.49 | Imperios | You know for all their coolness samurai have never ever left their home islands hur |
17:12.09 | Imperios | Why's that? Us |
17:13.01 | Imperios | >While the privileged white Europeans like to believe that their knights were not only the most effective in battle, but the most cultured |
17:13.02 | OluapWorker | Goddamn am I bored |
17:13.22 | Imperios | I do not understand why people always use accusations of racism to gain credibility |
17:13.34 | Imperios | Besides, assuming every person reading this is white is racist in itself |
17:13.43 | Wormy_ | I think the Mongols completely pwned the Samurai didn't they? |
17:13.49 | Imperios | They could |
17:13.55 | Imperios | But they were stopped by a hurricane |
17:14.09 | Imperios | Had luck been on their side Japan would be shrek'd |
17:14.49 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy__ (4e90aa57@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.144.170.87) |
17:14.56 | Wormy__ | What if the Samurai summoned that storm though? |
17:15.31 | Imperios | With their magik katans |
17:15.38 | Wormy__ | Then they have ninja'd the mongols hah hah |
17:15.57 | AdmiralPanda | The thing is, the samurai that got sent over the sees were actually meant to die there |
17:16.00 | Imperios | Funny thing is everything the essay says about the samurai also applies to most equestrian warrior castes in history |
17:16.47 | Imperios | Even Muslim Arabs had knights, their knightly tradition was called Furisyya or something |
17:17.13 | Imperios | Furusiyya |
17:17.21 | Imperios | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furusiyya |
17:17.46 | Imperios | "Furusiyya ( ??????) is the historical Arabic term for knightly martial exercise during the Middle Ages, during the Crusades and Mamluk period in particular, especially concerned with the martial arts and equestrianism of the Golden Age of Islam. The body of Arabo-Persian "Furusiyya literature" includes the genre Faras-nama, which is an encyclopedic compilation of facts relating to horses. |
17:17.47 | Imperios | It was a concept and noble art that included the arts of war and hunting, equestrianism, tactics and strategy, and certain games like chess. This art was practiced throughout the Muslim world, and saw its greatest achievement in Mamluk Egypt during the 14th century." |
17:18.41 | Imperios | Korea had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwarang |
17:20.17 | Imperios | Knight-samurai-whatever analogues were extremely common |
17:20.20 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: Hm? |
17:21.21 | AdmiralPanda | basically after the S-J the Shogun found there were tons of professional soldiers with no wars to fight and no other skills, so he sent them all off to die so A) he didn't have to pay them and B) they wouldn't resort to banditry |
17:21.49 | Imperios | Heh |
17:21.59 | Wormy__ | Knights were supposed to be celebates as well, though they probably did do mass rapes since that is an ugly feature of human history in general |
17:22.43 | Wormy__ | But same goes for Samurai |
17:23.24 | OluapWorker | grorious nippon dikku |
17:23.39 | AdmiralPanda | with knights it depends, but I don't recall samurai being required to be celibate |
17:24.25 | AdmiralPanda | historically knights had a lot of leeway in most orders, just so long as they weren't sinning or neglecting their duties |
17:27.02 | Aeondroid | Cleanser - Which one's soul can I have? |
17:28.00 | AdmiralPanda | the one thing I always liked about knights was how quickly the fair play rules went out the window the moment anyone not from their general region and socioeconomic class shows up |
17:28.13 | AdmiralPanda | "Hm, these guys don't really pose a societal threat to me, FUCK THEIR SHIT UP" |
17:28.26 | AdmiralPanda | then they get back home and everyone praises their valour against the filthy heathens |
17:28.56 | Monet | That happens in any culture class. |
17:29.03 | Monet | clash* |
17:29.48 | AdmiralPanda | I know, and I'm glad it does, because people who play by the rules die by the rules |
17:30.13 | AdmiralPanda | or more accurately, die because the other guy didn't play by the rules |
17:30.34 | Monet | That's pragmatism for you. |
17:30.57 | Monet | Nature only ever has guidelines. |
17:31.17 | AdmiralPanda | I once played an alchemist in D&D, my crowning achievement was poisoning the guy the party fighter was scheduled to duel with |
17:31.33 | AdmiralPanda | naturally the fighter confronted me, and I just nonchalantly said "well, you're still alive, and he's dead. I call that a win." |
17:33.29 | Monet | Reminds me of a game Orks apparently play in DoW II |
17:33.48 | Monet | *Kills something* "you're dead and I'm not, I win!" |
17:34.32 | AdmiralPanda | that's orks in general |
17:34.41 | AdmiralPanda | Orks don't lose fights, you see |
17:34.52 | AdmiralPanda | if they kill you, they win. If they run away, they survive, so they win |
17:35.22 | AdmiralPanda | and if you kill them, there's gonna be another hundred orks right behind them so they win anyway |
17:35.25 | Monet | And if they die? (can't remmeber htat one) |
17:35.28 | Monet | Rite |
17:38.39 | Aeondroid | And if I kill them all with my lasers? |
17:39.17 | Monet | Same deal with if you kill the mas Ork infestations are impossible to remove |
17:39.55 | AdmiralPanda | basically the only time ork infestations are removed is when the entire planet is removed |
17:40.15 | Hachiman | If you cleanse a planet of Ork spores you are condemning a entire world and its resources and assets to the fire |
17:40.27 | Hachiman | So it's not really a win when you lost something that valuable |
17:41.00 | Aeondroid | Let's watch Once Upon a Time instead. |
17:41.20 | Monet | And the Orks still win because they caused a massive amaount of Dakka t obe used. |
17:42.29 | Hachiman | When you look at the Orks one must realise that the Old Ones that fostered/created them were a bunch of idiots |
17:43.00 | Hachiman | They create a warlike species to contribute in fighting their enemies and then have no measures to stop themselves from getting turned on |
17:43.14 | OluapWorker | More like they created the best war weapons ever, so good no one can stop them |
17:43.35 | drom | Skittles' commericals are so weird. |
17:43.37 | AdmiralPanda | funnily enough they weren't actually created as warriors, they were created to be the ultimate survivors |
17:43.43 | AdmiralPanda | the war thing just kinda happened |
17:49.40 | Hachiman | OluapWorker: Neat updates on the Indoctrinate page |
17:49.50 | OluapWorker | bleh |
17:51.07 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10407618_1595068974043505_1998810647257716782_n.jpg?oh=968ddb7c4fe830213a84882d6e60adc0&oe=55B9459E Have hypocrisy |
17:51.57 | OluapWorker | "meowed him a little hello" |
17:51.58 | OluapWorker | satire |
17:52.05 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11082606_339485572908761_940107078320051893_n.png?oh=1cf8445e31622ea2bb95eff89e8d3084&oe=55E2CB0F Speaking of meows |
17:52.28 | OluapWorker | kitti |
17:52.33 | Imperios | kat |
17:53.10 | OluapWorker | In my cat's case is "Touch that belly and nose your hand" |
17:53.12 | OluapWorker | lose even |
17:53.30 | OluapWorker | Your hand might even get shredded in the form of a nose if you're unlucky enough |
17:53.57 | Aeondroid | And I dance dance dance and I dance dance dance |
17:54.17 | Imperios | Hm, I like |
18:09.16 | Xho | Everything is so not awesome |
18:09.44 | OluapWorker | ur fault |
18:09.45 | OluapWorker | fix dis |
18:10.30 | Xho | Really wish I could |
18:10.46 | OluapWorker | Boring day today |
18:11.41 | OluapWorker | http://i.4cdn.org/v/1428430015534.png Jerkon - time to wreck some noobs |
18:18.10 | Xho | Just saw something on Facebook |
18:18.23 | Xho | Cringeworthy enough to cause Cthulhu to rise from his drowned dimension |
18:18.53 | OluapWorker | wat dis |
18:19.05 | Xho | I can't actually post it on IRC it's that horrifying |
18:19.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: ...Was your ex a Tumblrite feminist or something |
18:20.44 | drom | Xho: PM it to me plox |
18:21.21 | Wormy__ | I see a sundog |
18:21.46 | Wormy__ | http://shadowness.com/file/item9/268620/image.jpg |
18:23.02 | OluapWorker | Describe it den |
18:23.26 | Xho | Basically it's MLP related |
18:23.37 | Xho | That is all I can say before it becomes inhumane |
18:24.41 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11068155_798094793599544_4211228698785546207_n.jpg?oh=9ac9a8ecc2ca6627af89ea479b0d37b5&oe=559CA421&__gda__=1438188311_256015599681e6876df9375a76b92a98 My response |
18:24.57 | OluapWorker | hur |
18:25.58 | Imperios | Xho: Let me guess... clop? |
18:26.12 | Xho | Dunno what that means |
18:26.37 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwcGY7qeEk This video describes what "clop" is |
18:26.46 | drom | It's bronies' "fap" |
18:27.05 | Xho | Pretty much yeah |
18:27.18 | OluapWorker | So it was pony porn |
18:27.41 | drom | Yep. |
18:27.43 | Xho | Kinda |
18:27.55 | Xho | Shit I see on Facebook |
18:28.11 | OluapWorker | You'd expect this kind of thing to be bannable |
18:28.15 | drom | I'm so glad that I quit using Facebook. |
18:28.41 | Xho | It is on a page that takes the piss out of cringeworthy things however |
18:28.47 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/msrw1EO.jpg |
18:28.59 | Imperios | cute |
18:31.36 | Hachiman | Wait |
18:31.41 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10689_550179465124620_8684037049687725139_n.jpg?oh=96f86f910e8e3de2abb7b7438335038f&oe=559AF1BD&__gda__=1437375952_41ae0f6d293c3d65926f1bee70f9ae2d |
18:31.41 | Hachiman | Stuff That Makes You Cringe? |
18:31.44 | Xho | Aye |
18:31.50 | Hachiman | Love that page hur |
18:31.54 | Xho | I forgot you were also a Facebook whore |
18:32.01 | Xho | are* |
18:32.02 | OluapWorker | ur both whors |
18:32.04 | Hachiman | kek |
18:32.05 | Xho | sey |
18:32.29 | Imperios | Hachiman Monet Xho: http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/37493678737788311/C42CCD98B21BBEBDF92EF2347F64AC88502200A8/ |
18:32.42 | Imperios | Oh and Wormy__ |
18:33.18 | Xho | hrh |
18:33.36 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10500251_1463032697320369_7539637992746815313_n.jpg?oh=bfac517c3dec3d117b0858ab06778269&oe=5599711C |
18:33.46 | Hachiman | Hint: Look at the woman |
18:34.10 | OluapWorker | Hamoins - surprise dong |
18:34.12 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/984288_1583941991822870_6817029104041194210_n.jpg?oh=bdd4ae6c400d4c108c3d74e431956299&oe=55A8B0D4 "Socks and sandals - social suicide" |
18:34.17 | *** join/#sporewiki Abysswalker (63f4753a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.244.117.58) |
18:34.24 | Abysswalker | Hello. |
18:35.11 | Ghel | Hello. |
18:35.12 | Hachiman | Hai |
18:35.15 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/16517_10206244596583730_1716967783126053992_n.jpg?oh=7b39eda559667848fd99f03759d5173f&oe=55E504F4&__gda__=1438201653_6b129268f9fb86bb52c54d05019ee0b9 This is a good picture to describe my mood for the past 4 months |
18:35.20 | Xho | Or 3 |
18:35.22 | Hachiman | Xho: Looks too familiar to a guy I used to go to school with |
18:36.08 | OluapWorker | Pelagrios when told there's only water available |
18:36.14 | Imperios | Hachiman: Thai power |
18:36.17 | Xho | hoh |
18:36.19 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11034220_1583091988574537_896781741454355803_n.jpg?oh=b82cdee488b6772c86f9485969003892&oe=55A69E97&__gda__=1436812029_0b9390c1ca82c9e93526d7b51dea7919 |
18:36.26 | Xho | I thought that said OmegaMario69 there |
18:36.30 | Xho | If that was the case I'd have to slap him |
18:36.37 | OluapWorker | Fucking ngh |
18:36.58 | Imperios | Xho: Dragonhorses |
18:37.10 | Imperios | Holy shit that's a good idea |
18:37.16 | Imperios | We should have dragonhorses in the fantasyverse |
18:37.29 | Hachiman | You mean pegasi |
18:37.38 | Imperios | No, horses with draconic features |
18:37.45 | Hachiman | You already have Tertamians |
18:37.48 | Imperios | Pegasi are... birdhorses |
18:37.56 | Imperios | Tertamians are more like gryphons |
18:37.57 | Abysswalker | What about bughorses. |
18:38.11 | Imperios | Or hippogryphs |
18:38.42 | OluapWorker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin this is what you're looking for |
18:39.32 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/11015109_1588263898057346_4797128401495583702_n.jpg?oh=31ed4334c433c3fbb261aaaa3d9fa1e4&oe=559A7A79 |
18:39.34 | drom | Imperios: That attribute oh my lungs |
18:39.53 | OluapWorker | He looks sad |
18:39.53 | Xho | Funny because I went down to the doctor's surgery today and there was this ugly overweight child with 'Addict' instead of 'Adidas' on her shirt |
18:40.06 | OluapWorker | Addicted with food |
18:40.16 | Imperios | Yeah the |
18:40.17 | Imperios | m |
18:40.20 | drom | I've a shirt with "No big deal". |
18:40.44 | Hachiman | So horses with scales |
18:41.03 | OluapWorker | More like a mix between a horse or unicorn and a chinese dragon |
18:41.27 | drom | I should go and prepare myself a proportion of gulasch. |
18:41.58 | OluapWorker | I've considered making qilin once but once I realized I made a bunch of real-fantasy things which are probably never gonna appear in fiction, I gave up |
18:42.23 | Xho | u didn't want to turn into a xho |
18:42.40 | Abysswalker | Oh how I wish fire emblem IF would be out already. Aaargh |
18:42.43 | Imperios | This reminds me, I thought of remaking Klaxxa aesthetic somewhat |
18:42.51 | Imperios | First, it seems a bit too out of place |
18:43.12 | OluapWorker | y would i want to b a xho |
18:43.12 | Hachiman | Give them spaceship[ |
18:43.14 | OluapWorker | dey r a dum lot |
18:43.17 | Imperios | Also Hachiman hates steampunk and me having steampunk in my fiction complicates cooperation between us |
18:43.17 | Hachiman | Spaceships even |
18:43.21 | Xho | yeh |
18:43.24 | Hachiman | Not really hur |
18:43.36 | Hachiman | I'm fine with cooperating with you even if steampunk is involved |
18:43.37 | Imperios | One mention of word steampunk and you enrage |
18:43.43 | Hachiman | Yeah as a joke |
18:43.45 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11064602_10206128835321566_7878189765968482860_n.jpg?oh=544d0b6e8240c2dbfd0dbe2e8c3acf22&oe=5599FAA1 |
18:43.49 | Imperios | Okay you enrage easily anyway hur |
18:43.55 | Hachiman | wow bit rude |
18:44.17 | OluapWorker | He's not wrong tho |
18:44.19 | Imperios | Ya |
18:44.43 | Hachiman | fuk off oluap u fukn monkey cunt u betta shut ur mouf b4 i do it 4 u |
18:45.05 | Imperios | You made long-winded rants and argued with Jo about how steampunk is bad, I do not think this qualifies as a joke hur |
18:45.08 | OluapWorker | i c u whinin but i dunt c u editin |
18:45.44 | Hachiman | Imperios: I don't hate steampunk itself, it's the people who get it wrong, which is the majority of people, that piss me off hur |
18:45.55 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11081436_1030968810250557_435629273681107273_n.jpg?oh=b4e916c68c9be7c8642b9282b557beed&oe=55B6F0F7&__gda__=1436765054_ca7625c8e8788bf1820b2484c2058fdd |
18:46.17 | OluapWorker | Angazhar and Santorakh |
18:46.41 | Xho | Santorakh - stay in there Angazhar - :c |
18:47.00 | Xho | On the topic of steampunk |
18:47.09 | Xho | http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--bbVN2GSW--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/zn0bw3iasq0mpadovwxv.jpg Kinda what comes to my head when I imagine 'scary Shiarchon woman' |
18:47.36 | OluapWorker | "I CAN'T SEE SHIT" |
18:47.45 | Xho | I have no clue what Legend of the Cryptids is however |
18:48.04 | Imperios | It is a MOBA I think |
18:48.06 | Imperios | Or a MMO |
18:48.10 | Hachiman | But she's not scary |
18:48.15 | Hachiman | Bangable yes but not scary |
18:48.28 | Xho | Kalarah - ur rly fuked up u kno dat |
18:48.43 | Imperios | There is a lot of fancy art from it |
18:49.04 | Imperios | http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/017/d/6/barbarians_queen_by_azazel1944-d5rr3f0.jpg My favourite |
18:49.18 | Imperios | Oh yeah it is a TCG |
18:49.21 | OluapWorker | I bet it is |
18:49.26 | OluapWorker | Now go edit Prophet Stone |
18:49.42 | Xho | http://37.media.tumblr.com/3645e2b051bcd5cc22056c8fc7315146/tumblr_n92o636npk1tvhtb7o2_1280.jpg Kind of what I imagine a 'well-aged' male Shiarchon might look like |
18:49.51 | Xho | And I mean damn well aged |
18:50.21 | Imperios | Hachiman: Majority of people pisses you off hur |
18:50.31 | Imperios | Also I am pretty sure you said you dislike the steampunk aesthetic yourself |
18:50.36 | OluapWorker | Shiarchon enclosed themselves in huge walls so no one would point and laugh at them over the distance |
18:50.41 | Imperios | *itself |
18:50.45 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11114263_1595048394045563_8494312746761727030_n.jpg?oh=2a94b6d9b0438522b1cba5b617a1c9f8&oe=55E4A624&__gda__=1441042905_136828f38413d107bf33e6bd0e59303d "Kamehameautism" |
18:50.49 | Hachiman | I said I dislike the aesthetic when only one part of it is explored |
18:51.00 | Hachiman | Like tophats and monocles and clocks and crap |
18:51.05 | Hachiman | When there is much more to steampunk |
18:51.19 | OluapWorker | THE GOLDEN AUSTS |
18:53.09 | Xho | If only I had good drawing skills I'd actually draw a Shiarchon unmasked |
18:53.38 | ImpyDroid | You complained about the Iron Horde though |
18:53.47 | ImpyDroid | Orcs do not wear tophats hur |
18:54.04 | Hachiman | I like the Iron Horde |
18:54.09 | Hachiman | I hate the storyline |
18:55.38 | ImpyDroid | > |
18:56.46 | OluapWorker | IRC's nothing but arguing today |
18:56.55 | OluapWorker | Can't we go back to doing dick jokes or something |
18:58.11 | Xho | dicks |
18:58.36 | ImpyDroid | are loved by drom |
18:58.59 | OluapWorker | Where the hell is Cyrannian at |
18:59.16 | OluapWorker | He's never here when I need to talk to him |
18:59.28 | ImpyDroid | Anyway I though of adding a more exotic edge to Klaxxa architecture and technology |
18:59.41 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/1514604_1594926897391046_8420618655636913087_n.jpg?oh=558316f205cb14fca6949c785847f29b&oe=559FCEF9 From the cringe page |
18:59.45 | Abysswalker | Klaxxa sound like the Klaxxi. Are they preying mantis people? |
19:00.09 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Pure honesty |
19:00.27 | OluapWorker | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AKlaxxa |
19:00.29 | ImpyDroid | Abysswalker: Muh dragons predate Mists |
19:00.45 | ImpyDroid | They're from 2010 or something |
19:00.49 | Hachiman | So the BBC did a report on the Large Hadron Collider being restarted after a two year break and mistitled the segment as "Hardon Collider Restart" |
19:00.52 | Abysswalker | Oh, I see. They stole from you then |
19:00.55 | Hachiman | >Hardon |
19:01.05 | ImpyDroid | If you are looking for a WoW analogue |
19:01.25 | OluapWorker | First edit was on January 29, 2011â |
19:01.29 | ImpyDroid | Remember Maloriak from Blackwing Descent? |
19:01.32 | OluapWorker | Close but not cigar |
19:01.43 | Abysswalker | Maloriak, sure. |
19:01.51 | OluapWorker | Back when you were still called scary russian letters, aka "ÐмпеÑиоÑ" |
19:01.55 | ImpyDroid | Klaxxa are basically a species of him |
19:02.09 | Hachiman | Nmnepnoc |
19:02.27 | ImpyDroid | But British and more technology-inclined rather than pure alchemy |
19:02.32 | ImpyDroid | Think dragongnomes |
19:02.35 | Xho | Nmemenfmpoc |
19:02.41 | Abysswalker | Well, all Maloriak type dragonkins are the same crazy alchemists. |
19:02.42 | OluapWorker | Hudda hudda hum |
19:03.06 | Hachiman | When I look at the Hachitao model in Spore I am kinda proud |
19:03.15 | Hachiman | I have not been this satisfied in a while hur |
19:04.05 | Abysswalker | Praise the sun! |
19:04.10 | OluapWorker | That's because you're a sad little man |
19:04.34 | Hachiman | Yes |
19:05.37 | Imperios | I'm happy for you hur |
19:06.49 | Xho | " Since the Kicath's ascension to councilhood, their own religion has caught the eyes of the other members, though aliens worshipping Kicath deities is rare due to the Kicath's generally hostile view toward outsiders" |
19:07.01 | Xho | PCA - allahu ackbar? Kicath - kithworto ackbar gtfo |
19:09.01 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po1Hy4BXLIo Would this work as the Sovereignty's war theme (for a Civ V mod, for example) |
19:09.40 | Hachiman | http://pre12.deviantart.net/f5b6/th/pre/f/2015/096/2/3/inquisitor_samus_aran_by_blazbaros-d8or6nl.png Samus as an Inquisitor |
19:09.48 | Hachiman | Imperios: Yes I can see that working very well |
19:10.09 | Imperios | Hachiman: No hat |
19:10.12 | Imperios | What heresy is this |
19:10.33 | Hachiman | I give it a 7/10 because of that fucking ridiculous boobplate |
19:10.57 | Imperios | Boobplates are good for aesthetic but not very practical |
19:11.02 | OluapWorker | I give it a 0/10 because inquisition |
19:11.02 | Imperios | Because heart |
19:11.07 | AdmiralPanda | the funny thing is that while people fixate on the hat, it's actually the trench coat that is the defining aspect |
19:11.16 | Hachiman | >good for aesthetic |
19:11.19 | Xho | 3.14/10 not sure what I'm looking at |
19:11.25 | Hachiman | Hold me back I am about to rage |
19:11.34 | AdmiralPanda | slaps Hachiman |
19:11.34 | OluapWorker | ~bully Hachiman |
19:11.41 | AdmiralPanda | you're probably the biggest tits lover here |
19:11.44 | OluapWorker | bah no bully command |
19:11.49 | Hachiman | I hate boobplate |
19:11.50 | OluapWorker | Disappointing |
19:11.53 | AdmiralPanda | except when it's two pairs of tits and then it's Imp |
19:12.02 | Hachiman | Tits are good, boobplate is fucking eugh |
19:12.23 | Monet | Is comic boob spandex any better? |
19:13.22 | Imperios | Hachiman: Because practicality? |
19:13.40 | Hachiman | Because practicality and because it just looks jarring |
19:13.55 | Hachiman | Same thing with Space Marine pauldrons |
19:14.02 | Imperios | Aye fuck pauldrons |
19:14.33 | Xho | but |
19:14.35 | Xho | shoulders |
19:14.41 | Hachiman | Like how am I supposed to think this female warrior is amazing and badass when she is wearing something that is going to get her fucking murdered |
19:14.52 | Hachiman | And is immensely discomforted |
19:14.59 | Imperios | Also being badass is hard when you look slutty hur |
19:15.26 | Hachiman | That is why you wear proper armour |
19:15.40 | Hachiman | Or something that is appropriate for your role |
19:15.49 | Xho | Dominatrix |
19:15.50 | Xho | ayy |
19:16.06 | AdmiralPanda | you know the funny thing is, while space marine shoulder pads are big, they aren't actually mobility limiting |
19:16.17 | Hachiman | They are sight impairing |
19:16.20 | AdmiralPanda | so realistically my only problem with them is they aren't quite high enough |
19:16.31 | drom | Man I'm so full now |
19:16.35 | AdmiralPanda | heh, look at the scrub who thinks marines use only their sight :P |
19:16.36 | Imperios | Xho: Since when are you my gf hur |
19:16.45 | Xho | Since one minute ago |
19:16.49 | OluapWorker | Things got a weird turn very fast |
19:16.59 | Hachiman | >implying Marines can fight without sight |
19:17.04 | AdmiralPanda | in all seriousness, space marines have a ridiculous set of sensors and equipment to figure out where their opponent is that don't involve seeing |
19:17.11 | Hachiman | I know Marines use a variety of other senses in conjunction with one another |
19:17.13 | AdmiralPanda | and yes they can actually |
19:17.13 | Imperios | You literally said something Veronica would say in this situation |
19:18.02 | Hachiman | Marines can fight blind |
19:18.04 | Hachiman | Where and when |
19:18.13 | Imperios | Daredevil Marine |
19:18.26 | AdmiralPanda | I know Imp said it as a joke but he's actually pretty much right |
19:18.42 | AdmiralPanda | later patterns of the marine helmet basically have sonar |
19:19.09 | AdmiralPanda | now I'm not saying they can fight to the same efficiency, but they can most certainly figure out where you are and put pain in your direction |
19:19.52 | Hachiman | Huh |
19:20.17 | AdmiralPanda | there's also the fact that each marine has access to triangulation from literally every other marine in the battleforce |
19:20.25 | AdmiralPanda | so if any two marines can see you, any other marine knows where you are |
19:23.07 | AdmiralPanda | there's also the whole being able to see from the bolter's camera via cybernetic uplink (though that's not standard-issue, it's more a devastator squad thing) |
19:24.05 | AdmiralPanda | long story short, a marine's shoulder pads really don't obscure their vision or ability to fight that much |
19:24.35 | drom | Comrade_Vinny TekDroid Wormy__: http://i.imgur.com/T3PIXRa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/l8322zS.jpg More than this luxurous you can't have as a pre-college student. |
19:28.21 | drom | Besides a bag of nachos of course. |
19:28.21 | Imperios | Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU8o7RRy2Qs ...So does everyone in Beyond Earth speak with ridiculous accents? |
19:32.36 | Imperios | It was ironic of Firaxis to give the leading space explorer of the game an accent from the country that is known all over the Internet for their inability to go to space |
19:37.48 | Monet | Not sure all. |
19:39.26 | Monet | Although regarding Hutama, I swear he's not a full-blooded Austrailian. |
19:40.14 | Monet | He strikes me as having a more exotic Oceanic heritage. |
19:40.40 | AdmiralPanda | assuming we're talking about the first guy, he's a mix of australian, NZ and polynesian really |
19:41.00 | AdmiralPanda | leaning a little towards NZ |
19:42.02 | Imperios | I'm talking about everyone |
19:42.23 | Monet | I think all of them have some flair. |
19:42.25 | Imperios | Everyone I can understand to a point at least, which is everyone except Quaritch and Chinese lady |
19:42.37 | Imperios | Seriously, Koslov's accent is ridiculous hur |
19:43.12 | Monet | Suzanne Fielding seems to have a mixed Spanish and American accent. |
19:44.40 | Monet | Koslov I didn't realise his accent was humourous apart from "hur let's put Soviets in here" |
19:46.38 | Monet | I can understand a little bit of Quaritch. |
19:48.16 | Imperios | Koslov speaks... |
19:48.17 | Imperios | Eh... |
19:48.22 | Monet | I'm not sure if I was surprised or relieved that Kavitha Thakur spoke English. |
19:48.59 | Monet | Considering Gandhi in previous Civ games spoke Hindi. |
19:49.05 | Imperios | It is mostly Russian, but the accent is 40% Polish, 20% Ukrainian, 40% 1980s American movie |
19:49.24 | Imperios | The kind of Russian Schwarznegger would speak in Red Heat |
19:50.07 | Abysswalker | Didn't Gandhi just threaten you with nukes in civ games? |
19:50.19 | Monet | Abysswalker: THat's only the meme |
19:50.29 | Monet | he wa salways really nice for 80% of the game. |
19:50.51 | AdmiralPanda | Gandhi doesn't threaten, he just randomly starts nuking |
19:51.50 | Abysswalker | I read it was a bug lol |
19:51.54 | Monet | I cannot say for certain but I feel suspicious that due to its distance from Europe, there might be Americans (FIraxis being a US-based company) who would have trouble differentiating between Russian, Hungarian, Polish and Ukrainian. |
19:52.06 | Abysswalker | I wish they would make a new X-com game. |
19:52.30 | OluapWorker | It was a bug that became a feature |
19:52.39 | AdmiralPanda | Abysswalker: originally it was a bug, basically Gandhi's aggression stat was so low it could loop around and reset to 255 (the highest available value), then they made it a feature because it was so funny |
19:54.03 | Abysswalker | Don't mess with gandhi and his nukes. |
19:54.17 | Abysswalker | Also can I get your opinion on a few new creations |
19:54.38 | Monet | Gandhi - I'm so passive I merely want ot obliterate everyone. |
19:56.18 | Imperios | Abysswalker |
19:56.20 | Imperios | Are you Aeo? |
19:56.30 | OluapWorker | It's a new user |
19:56.33 | Monet | He's someone new |
19:58.42 | Abysswalker | http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-BlackPhoenix1825%7C2267936875 High Queen and the stealth fighter. High Queen seems kind of off but I can't get the clothes to change color. |
20:05.36 | Wormy__ | drom: I actually enjoy coming home from uni and cooking a slap up meal, but yeah I eat trash at lunch time |
20:06.59 | Wormy__ | Also I cook like in Epic Swedish Mealtime |
20:07.21 | Wormy__ | jusat bash it all together and somehow it comes out very nice |
20:07.42 | Wormy__ | violence is the definition of cooking |
20:07.58 | drom | 1. Smash a jar of mayonese in a bowl |
20:08.09 | drom | 2. Crush a pack of fraiche |
20:08.50 | drom | 3. Shove down a box of milk |
20:09.02 | drom | 4. Pick your nose |
20:09.46 | drom | 5. Stir |
20:10.12 | drom | 6. Put it in a microwave on the max effect and let it go until you hear a loud bang |
20:10.17 | drom | 7. Dinner's ready |
20:27.00 | Wormy__ | You forgot about FUS DOH RAH'ing it for good measure |
20:28.41 | ImpyDroid | This way it will be truly Swedish |
20:29.12 | ImpyDroid | I actually wonder where the next TES game is going to be set |
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20:33.38 | Knight_Alien | Hello |
20:34.08 | ImpyDroid | Wormy__: When did you learn to cook? |
20:36.42 | ImpyDroid | Oh and about food |
20:37.18 | ImpyDroid | Monet Xho Wormy__: http://xn-----6kcpev3a4j.xn--p1ai How do you call this meal in English? Do you even have it in UK? |
20:37.35 | ImpyDroid | wait |
20:38.17 | ImpyDroid | http://cs616220.vk.me/v616220789/ceab/bK0yjz0fImg.jpg This link |
20:38.34 | Monet | Looks like a risotto dish of some kind... |
20:40.21 | ImpyDroid | That's a Persian dish I thinm |
20:40.54 | ImpyDroid | My Kazakhstani-born grandmother and my sister's Uzbekistani-born babysitter make this |
20:42.31 | Technobliterator | oh, Imperios left |
20:42.37 | Technobliterator | I was going to give him powas |
20:43.03 | Wormy__ | ImpyDroid: I was taught to cook as a child, I then went through a long hiatus and started cooking a couple of years ago |
20:43.26 | Wormy__ | Is that tagine? |
20:43.31 | ImpyDroid | I LIVE |
20:43.56 | Wormy__ | You see, my Dad had travelled all over the world so I'm quite familiar with the world's cooking styles |
20:44.07 | Wormy__ | as a young man |
20:44.20 | Wormy__ | backpacking basically |
20:45.08 | ImpyDroid | Heh |
20:45.31 | ImpyDroid | rite ded |
20:45.43 | Wormy__ | I'm starting to make my own weird inventions |
20:45.52 | Wormy__ | Like beetroot pasta |
20:47.13 | Wormy__ | I assume "I LIVE" means I either woke him or it is tajine |
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21:10.19 | The_Randomness | Hello |
21:10.32 | Technobliterator | hi Random |
21:31.09 | Hachiman | So besides aggressive, how would you guys describe the nature of the Zazane |
21:31.20 | Hachiman | I plan on updating and renewing some pages |
21:32.13 | AdmiralPanda | tbh I would say passionate over aggressive |
21:32.30 | The_Randomness | Yeah |
21:32.45 | Hachiman | Makes sense |
21:33.18 | AdmiralPanda | like aggression is one of the ways they channel that passion, but from what I've seen of Zazane characters they really seem to be defined by their passion more than anything else |
21:38.36 | Monet | Passionate yeah. |
21:39.08 | Hachiman | And besides passionate? |
21:39.14 | Monet | Hmm. |
21:39.19 | Technobliterator | I need Oluap |
21:39.21 | Technobliterator | ;_; |
21:39.25 | Monet | Stubbourn? |
21:40.27 | Monet | They seem somewhat communally minded too. |
21:41.52 | Monet | I know alcohol is forbidden amongst Zazane in Brood society, but fro mwhat i've seen Tyraz is really the only one who is partial to a glass of beer or wine. |
21:42.13 | Monet | And the others treat it as "law is law" |
21:42.25 | Hachiman | Eh I might change that, there's a lot of dum things about the Brood and Zazane I am not fond of |
21:42.36 | Hachiman | They would remain a largely lawful neutral society though |
21:42.56 | Monet | Well it could be that alcohol is forbidden, but maybe only in public places? |
21:43.13 | Hachiman | Yeah that makes sense |
21:43.53 | Monet | As I understand it, the main reason for the law is its effect on individuals' performance. |
21:45.15 | Hachiman | Yeah so while in a workplace or public place, alcohol could be prohibited although it should be fine within more personal and intimate places like the household |
21:47.19 | Wormy__ | DCP alcohol is probably not the real thing, and only makes one drunk in personal space |
21:47.56 | Wormy__ | Though the DCP is authoritarian its people live in an illusion of freedom |
21:48.05 | Wormy__ | I would like try and work on that more |
21:48.31 | AdmiralPanda | And Fordanta are just like "why would you want to screw up your senses like that?" |
21:48.54 | Wormy__ | But if you break conventions, the world will come after you... |
21:50.38 | Monet | Draconis - Sometimes alcoho lgives a unique taste to the drink |
21:51.17 | Wormy__ | Thing is I've not actually got a clear idea of DCP culture yet. I used to make out the Grimbolsaurians to be more like say, the Klingons. But I've made them less like warriors and more like civilised army than barbarioan horde |
21:51.43 | Wormy__ | Then there's issue of its various members |
21:51.55 | Wormy__ | How much culture does the state allow? |
21:52.38 | Wormy__ | Or should it just be like in Equilibrium, a monoculture |
21:53.08 | The_Randomness | Equilibrium? |
21:53.54 | Wormy__ | The_Randomness: Fantastic film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-RRiJoLKGM |
21:54.01 | Wormy__ | Like 1984 on steroids |
21:54.11 | The_Randomness | Ah |
21:54.56 | Wormy__ | Humans adopt almost a Vulcan approach, but using drugs and extermination |
21:55.05 | Wormy__ | to rid themselves of feeling |
21:55.10 | The_Randomness | whoa |
21:55.46 | Wormy__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84G6RRBnJEY |
21:56.15 | The_Randomness | I'll check it out later, currently a bit busy |
22:00.36 | Wormy__ | Okay the DCP might be a bit more liberal than that |
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22:01.03 | Wormy__ | Feeling however is probably controlled and funelled somehow |
22:01.08 | Wormy__ | Hi |
22:01.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
22:01.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
22:02.46 | The_Randomness | Hello |
22:15.27 | TekDroid | Hello |
22:17.25 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Ice_Cube_Trials#Naktor.27zak:_Pro_Smasha eh, it's a shame Oluap won't be able to see this until later, but here ya go |
22:24.49 | drom | Preloading GTAV |
22:25.07 | drom | And in decimal it is 65 GB and in binary it says 59 GB |
22:26.10 | drom | My computer says that my flash is ~63.5 GB and calculates to have a size of 59.60 GB. Yet Steam says that it is too small. |
22:26.11 | Monet | Big game. Might be all the textures |
22:26.23 | drom | I don't understand computers. |
22:26.56 | Monet | It's always good to have at the very least a few percent empty |
22:27.49 | drom | Good thing that I had an external HDD lying around. So I don't have to miss out the preloading with the fastest speed on my fingertips. |
22:27.51 | Monet | It might be that steam is saying there isnt't 65GB of space available |
22:28.46 | Wormy__ | GTAV is available for PC's now? |
22:29.34 | drom | For preloading (downloading the game before it's release, before you can actually get the required files to play it) |
22:30.48 | drom | The system usually consists of delievering a full install but with few exceptions of key files such as the .exe. Some distributers also encrypt it until release. |
22:30.56 | Monet | Still 10 days before they actualyl make it available for play |
22:31.16 | drom | 14th April |
22:31.20 | drom | 13 days to go |
22:31.57 | Monet | But I've got too much work to pay it this month, which is good because I predict the first week the GTA online servers will be crammed with PC players wanting to get in. |
22:32.28 | drom | Monet: http://i.imgur.com/8JBxtOu.png |
22:32.54 | drom | "There isn't enough of free space" |
22:33.06 | drom | Wha |
22:33.16 | drom | I got 6.7 mb/s speed |
22:33.42 | drom | That's right. This download will finish in few hours. |
22:35.03 | drom | Gonna leave this computer on overnight as I wait for the flash formatting and the preload to finish. |
22:37.23 | Monet | I'm gonna go AFK for a bit as well |
22:37.37 | drom | Hah, the physical copy has 7 install discs. |
22:37.52 | drom | Brings me back ye oldie times. |
22:38.02 | Monet | SEVEN? |
22:39.59 | Monet | anyway afk |
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22:42.03 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/7920IGw.png |
22:42.33 | drom | Seems like the GTAV's preload day just got Steam to break a new record. |
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22:58.15 | Technobliterator | Wormy__, the prodigy are the first band ever with six consecutive number one albums |
22:58.17 | Technobliterator | :o |
22:59.22 | Wormy__ | Really? |
22:59.30 | Technobliterator | Yep |
22:59.40 | Technobliterator | with their new album |
22:59.43 | Wormy__ | That is quite a thing, I guess |
23:00.39 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/13107_414817352012299_7662135038424659340_n.jpg?oh=9ca4870529e7f67f41823552689233ac&oe=559AE51A&__gda__=1436208881_661d8224894ff4e180c1ababda3f2105 Where is Imp when you want him |
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23:05.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Oh my. XD |
23:11.53 | drom | Hachiman: My /pol/ish senses are tingling. |
23:13.26 | drom | Remember when 4chan rigged a Mountain Dew naming contest and tried to name the new product: "Hitler did nothing wrong" |
23:14.21 | Aeo | Q: What is the internet minus 4chan? A: Better. |
23:14.40 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah. |
23:14.52 | Monet | The idiots gotta go somewhere though |
23:15.23 | drom | Yep |
23:16.52 | Hachiman | Eh I find 4chan has its good moments |
23:17.11 | Technobliterator | I don't |
23:17.30 | Technobliterator | I've never seen anything good come out of 4chan, sadly : | |
23:17.35 | drom | I get my moments from the subreddit hub. |
23:17.41 | Hachiman | You have not been to /tg/ then hur |
23:18.06 | Hachiman | tg is all about stuff like D&D, Pathfinder, Warhammer 40,000 and Fantasy Battle, board games and traditional games in general |
23:18.21 | Hachiman | Of course there's a ton of cretinous shit there but at least good stuff comes out of it occasionally |
23:18.38 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
23:19.01 | Hachiman | but muh rare pepes |
23:19.10 | drom | robots are not peeps |
23:19.20 | drom | get off the face of earth |
23:20.34 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
23:21.14 | drom | But usually bragging about gains and sneer out tumblrites |
23:22.28 | Hachiman | Tumblrites are right to be sneered at though |
23:25.10 | drom | and oh typical modernday radical feminists too |
23:25.13 | drom | you know |
23:25.16 | drom | the obese |
23:27.18 | drom | It does happen that /fit/izens has got company/relatives that are jealous of their achievements and gains. http://i.imgur.com/frcvpDk.png?1 |
23:29.36 | drom | Well 4chan does have bad, good and karma moments. Dot. |
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23:54.20 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Nice job on Naktor's section |