00:00.21 | Tybusen | Perhaps that's something that I should work on, showing some of the psychological effects of war on the TIAF characters rather than just having Lorrelas charge in and smash everything then feel bad about it afterwards |
00:00.33 | Monet | But then the question arises: Did you make htem immune or did you give them PTSD? |
00:00.43 | Hachiman | Counter-PTSD |
00:00.48 | AdmiralPanda | in Hel's case, both |
00:01.32 | Monet | PTSD can have mroe subtle effects like disturbed slee patterns or irritability. |
00:01.39 | Monet | sleep* |
00:02.10 | Tybusen | I was going to work some war trauma into Admiral Jamake's backstory, since he pretty much helped lead a genocide during his youth (and he regrets it deeply now) |
00:02.11 | Monet | One of them most concerning things about PTSD are the symptoms that can't be seen with a single diagnosis. |
00:02.25 | Tybusen | PTSD affects everyone differently, some more obviously than others |
00:03.12 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/19318_2407470455974858_2034604147542281812_n.jpg?oh=7e589678a792f1bfa15a38e2a47e3971&oe=55B2B869&__gda__=1436409221_f32971714973bbfe85c76efbc55bcf6e |
00:04.15 | Tybusen | I imagine the TIAF has an effective PTSD therapy method, though it's probably not perfect either |
00:05.01 | Xho | If you're a Kicath and have PTSD you're not a Kicath |
00:05.20 | Monet | I jsut realised the scariest thing about Arsac at spa: It is a place that is filled with things that in a certain lighgt she's seen before i nmissions |
00:05.50 | Hachiman | Arsac - dat towel rail over dere ive seen dat used as a cultist's dildo once |
00:05.53 | Tybusen | Perhaps the Kicath equivalent to PTSD is something that we as humans wouldn't recognize as PTSD |
00:05.58 | Xho | My gosh |
00:06.08 | Xho | They become calm and peace loving |
00:06.13 | Hachiman | Kicath PTSD = gaining of human emotions |
00:06.15 | TekDroid | O.o |
00:06.16 | Xho | c |
00:06.39 | Tybusen | Kicath - CONCEAL DON'T FEEL DON'T LET IT SHOW |
00:06.39 | TekDroid | That's more of a reverse PTSD though |
00:06.55 | GD12 | LET IT GO LET IT GO |
00:07.03 | TekDroid | O.o |
00:07.17 | Monet | Trance-like sounds, chanting, soft-spoken attendants, building occupants walking about in a dream-like state, suggetive phrases, strange-looking pools, exotic techniques and an atmosphere that the place is paradise. |
00:08.00 | Tybusen | If you think about it, the sort of behaviors that spa attendants use would seem incredibly creepy in any other context |
00:08.02 | Monet | THis is all stuff Arsac has seen on missions. |
00:08.48 | Monet | So a spa is essentially a nightmare realm filled with the most insidious things mortals can concieve of t ocontrol and pevert. |
00:08.49 | Tybusen | Imagine if you're sitting on the bus and then someone puts you facefirst on the ground and starts rubbing oil on your bare back, telling you to relax in a singsong voice |
00:08.59 | Xho | So if Kicath gain human emotions |
00:09.03 | Xho | Zeta is really fucked up |
00:09.33 | Monet | Tybusen: Arsac - OH FUCK NO! |
00:09.48 | Hachiman | Time to oil up~ |
00:10.36 | Monet | An that is why Arsac will never set foot in a relaxation spa ever. |
00:10.44 | Hachiman | It will probably take a while for Hachiman to realise that a lot of the people he knows currently will not be around by 600,000 AD |
00:11.34 | Monet | Hachiman: Hopefully not as long as Issac and Miriam from Baccano |
00:11.44 | Hachiman | Aye |
00:12.04 | Monet | It took them 75 years to realise they had become immortal and ageless |
00:12.10 | Tybusen | Does he even know that he lives to be 600,000 years old |
00:12.41 | Hachiman | Well by 600,000 AD he would physically be a 60 year old |
00:12.52 | Hachiman | A good-looking 60 year old I must add hur |
00:12.55 | TekDroid | O.o |
00:13.25 | Monet | Suddenly that theian girl's affection for him becomes ever-so-slightly creepy. |
00:13.30 | Tybusen | So basically 10 years for every 100,000 years |
00:13.47 | Hachiman | Not really, girls can be into older men hur |
00:13.58 | Tybusen | So by that logic Hachiman should look like he's fresh out of the womb right now |
00:14.05 | Monet | ...I was thinking of the other way around. |
00:14.09 | Xho | Nu - only when you skin him |
00:14.27 | Hachiman | Well Hachi is still mortal so he ages if just a bit slower than a normal person |
00:14.43 | Tybusen | >just a bit slower |
00:15.01 | Hachiman | He looks like a late teen at 30 hur |
00:15.26 | Monet | Then again even in this modern age humans can look pretty goodfor old dudes |
00:15.34 | TekDroid | Aren't the theians technically negative a few thousand years old, or am I thinking of something else? :P |
00:15.43 | Tybusen | And then it takes him 599,970 years for him to physically age 42 years |
00:15.47 | Monet | Alexadre Valery's 86 but looks like a good-looking 30/40 year old |
00:16.28 | Tybusen | I imagine that most of the modern Gigaquadrant's medical tech is good enough that anyone could live for centuries at this point |
00:16.38 | Monet | TekDroid: As a species, Theians have yet to step up from caves and mud huts |
00:16.55 | Hachiman | Technological immortality is probably plausible at the point of T2 |
00:17.01 | Xho | Well the Kicath's medical tech can make them effectively immortal |
00:17.15 | Tybusen | Digital immortality could be achieved as early as T3/4 |
00:17.19 | Hachiman | But a surprising number of species choose either not to do it out of ethical concerns or because the costs are too much |
00:17.47 | Monet | Hachiman: Or maybe not just ethical but also social concerns. |
00:17.48 | Xho | Then goes the moment when Nu uploads his conscience and becomes an AI |
00:17.54 | Tybusen | The basic requirements for digital/technological immortality is full understanding of the species' neurology and an efficient method of preservation or cloning |
00:17.55 | Monet | If everyone's immortal, why have babies? |
00:18.22 | Hachiman | Post-ascension, whenever Hachiman feels like he needs to get off the radar and "die" for a bit he probably just takes a trip into the Realm of Dreams |
00:18.24 | Tybusen | Monet: That's the reason why the TIAF will never let their citizens become digitally immortal |
00:18.55 | Xho | Kithworto's uncle is technically immortal through technology |
00:19.03 | Monet | That and in RL people are already talking about how in the past couple of years we have seen the birth od what is eing heralded as the first immortal generation. |
00:19.04 | TekDroid | Life extension past the alien of equivalent of century for humans is probably easily possible by T3/4 and definitely practical by T2. |
00:19.05 | Xho | He's surpassed the natural lifespan of a Kicath by around 100 years |
00:19.14 | Tybusen | Hachiman: Do you think social media sites in the Gigaquadrant would get filled up with threads about "is hachiman kill" |
00:19.23 | Hachiman | ayy |
00:19.45 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta are opposed to it on a fundamental level because it screws with their ideology |
00:20.10 | Monet | Actually its kinda funny that we don't see the internet or social media that much in 1st gig stories |
00:20.16 | Tybusen | The difficulty about immortality like that is how to keep people interested in continuing the propogation of the species |
00:20.26 | TekDroid | ^ |
00:20.33 | Xho | So it looks like the Kicath are among the few who actively participate in technological immortality then |
00:20.44 | Tybusen | Since digital immortality doesn't safeguard against things like wars or ecodisasters and the like |
00:20.46 | Monet | Xho: THem and the French. |
00:20.48 | Hachiman | Monet: Well consider the internet is not even a thing in the Warhammer 40,000 universe :P |
00:20.51 | TekDroid | We already see significant drops in birth rate just in western society. |
00:20.59 | Xho | Kicath - HUMANS MUST DIE or get savagely beaten at least |
00:21.16 | Tybusen | TekDroid: And it's most likely because everyone has super long lifespans nowadays |
00:21.19 | Monet | HAchiman: YEah but that's because the Imperium cannot for the life of itself decide how advanced it is. |
00:21.42 | TekDroid | Farengeto is rapidly approaching an age where digital immortality is possible. |
00:21.44 | Xho | I don't think the Kicath will ever truly like humans |
00:21.45 | AdmiralPanda | Actually, many imperial worlds do basically have the internet |
00:22.00 | Hachiman | inb4 psykernet |
00:22.10 | AdmiralPanda | what you forget is that it's practically impossible to connect each world's internet together with anything less than Eldar technology |
00:22.13 | Tybusen | I think I've mentioned a few times that the TIAF and the rest of Bunsen have their own Internet system, it just doesn't get brought up all that often since it's not usually relevant to the story |
00:22.26 | Xho | Becoming almost as technologically advanced as them two hundred times faster than the Kicath is going to leave a lot of them sore |
00:22.47 | Tybusen | AdmiralPanda: You'd need technology that can communicate faster than SOL |
00:23.00 | AdmiralPanda | Tybusen: precisely |
00:23.10 | AdmiralPanda | in other words, Eldar/Necron tech :P |
00:23.12 | Monet | That's the other issue 40k has that we don't - the fictionverse is not reliant on communication though Hell. |
00:23.31 | Wormy_STO | http://imgur.com/gallery/bTeoadA |
00:23.32 | Xho | Xhodocto - lol cut connection |
00:23.47 | Tybusen | Though to be fair, hyperluminal comms and subspace comms are the norm in the Fictionverse, so they may have already solved the SOL problem |
00:24.00 | Monet | Exactly |
00:24.27 | Monet | And the Imperium is trying desperately to kee pitself together while several major ficverse nations jsut keep on growing and prospering |
00:25.02 | AdmiralPanda | you should also keep in mind that 40k wrote the book on being a shithouse of a setting, and they're proud of it |
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00:25.20 | Tybusen | France - I got a hyperspace missile | TIAF - I got a particle smashing accelerator cannon | DI - I got a rock |
00:25.22 | AdmiralPanda | literally the only positive outcome of their setting's apocalypse happens after all the Eldar die out |
00:25.36 | Monet | >Shithouse of a setting > No convenient form of interstellar internet makes sense |
00:26.11 | GD12 | Xhodocto = Comcast |
00:26.20 | Tybusen | The Internet did evolve from a military comms network but in a dystopic setting I don't know if the necessity would ever arise for a civilian comms network on the scale of the Internet |
00:26.39 | Monet | Probably not |
00:26.55 | Monet | Ad there is jsut so little detail on the notcrapsack parts of the galaxy it's hard ot know. |
00:27.16 | Tybusen | Probably hard to want Internet when you don't even know where your next meal might come from |
00:28.43 | Monet | Draconis are physically imortal but i've left it ambiguous as to whether or not all that held the mantle have draocnis have the current form of immortality and whether or not it was inherited. |
00:28.53 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: What do you mean by that? |
00:29.03 | Hachiman | As in the Eldar dying is positive thing hur |
00:29.20 | Monet | It will bring forth a new god |
00:29.33 | Monet | Or, knowing the universe, it won't. |
00:29.44 | Monet | Or it will and Slaanesh wil lbeat the unholy crap out of it. |
00:29.44 | Hachiman | Oh you mean Ynnead |
00:30.04 | Monet | I think so. |
00:30.05 | GD12 | i think the eldar get a new god |
00:30.14 | Monet | Or he refers to the Exodite Worlds. |
00:30.24 | Hachiman | Yeah but I have a feeling that despite being a godlike power, he will find himself caged into the Infinity Circuits so he cannot interact with anything beyond those |
00:30.40 | GD12 | that would suck lol |
00:30.44 | GD12 | Ynnead - sup bros |
00:31.16 | Hachiman | And trapping gods in technology has been done before ala Necrons and C'tan |
00:31.23 | Monet | The other possibility is since its a god of death, it kills *everything* faster than a really hungry C'tan |
00:32.11 | GD12 | random note |
00:32.20 | GD12 | the 4chan pepe thing on ebay |
00:32.22 | GD12 | now going for 100k |
00:32.27 | Hachiman | Ohgod |
00:32.28 | Monet | Wot |
00:32.28 | GD12 | that will be all |
00:32.31 | Hachiman | Fucking normies |
00:32.40 | GD12 | US $99,166.00 |
00:32.43 | GD12 | still |
00:32.53 | AdmiralPanda | Ynnead ain't in an infinity circuit, like the rest of the deities he's a gestalt consciousness in the warp if anything |
00:33.14 | Monet | We all know Games Workshop enough to guess that they won't give anyone a happy ending. |
00:33.23 | AdmiralPanda | also you forget that you don't really get trapped in a circuit, any entity that restores its sense of self can leave |
00:33.39 | AdmiralPanda | so even if Ynnead manifested inside one, he'd just be like "ok screw this, off to kill Slaanesh" |
00:34.04 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaqV9vVP2Yc Kithworto |
00:34.17 | Monet | Then gets decked horribly by a gangup |
00:34.58 | Hachiman | olol |
00:35.14 | Hachiman | Hachiman effectively pulled a Piccolo when Macin died |
00:35.35 | Hachiman | If he did not absorb a part of her Dream Energy he probably would not be so potent now |
00:35.53 | Hachiman | It is also implied part of her consciousness remains inside of his head due to this |
00:36.47 | Xho | Macin - nail gun Hachiman - dam thats gud |
00:38.39 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/16899_688623994593506_6206419266443788388_n.jpg?oh=df540927adc7859e649e7ab7d037e400&oe=55BD7324 |
00:39.53 | Xho | You blew him up |
00:40.02 | Hachiman | olol |
00:40.36 | DrodoEmpire | test |
00:41.12 | Monet | Xho: Given the time they've spent together recently I wonder if Kithworto and Sarec have doen more than talk philosophy or fight together. |
00:41.30 | Hachiman | As in |
00:41.33 | Hachiman | Cloaca stuff |
00:41.56 | Monet | Sarec - Probably not... |
00:42.05 | Xho | Kithworto - do u want to die |
00:42.27 | Hachiman | Hachi - >tfw ur adoptive father has a pussy |
00:43.21 | Monet | I remember talking a while ago about how Sarec potentially also sees alternate timelines. |
00:44.11 | Monet | Although his extent it's probably more akin being limited to seeing the immediate branches created by choices in the timestream |
00:44.27 | Tybusen | Sarec sees alternate timeline of himself seeing another alternate timeline of himself seeing another alternate timeline of- oh no I've gone cross-eyed |
00:45.12 | Monet | He'd have ot physically travel to an alternate univrese to see something like a non-pervy Hachi. |
00:45.48 | Monet | But he'd be able to know what magazine Hachi decided to read as the latter enters his room. |
00:46.12 | Monet | As well as all the magazones Hachi considered reading |
00:47.08 | Tybusen | Sarec is soon driven mad by the revelation that 99% of the timelines result in Hachi reading a magazine containing SarecXKithworto fanfic |
00:47.47 | TekDroid | O.o |
00:47.58 | Monet | Sarec - My my! |
00:48.23 | Monet | In the conversation that I brought it up, I remember stating that in a way, Sarec can tell if you're going ot die in the next ten minutes and could in theory simply hop to a brnach where you don't. |
00:48.55 | Monet | Buut even if he does he'd still live with the experience of seeing someone he knows die in front of his eyes. |
00:49.05 | Tybusen | So Sarec can give anyone quantum immortality is what you're saying |
00:50.06 | Monet | If he wants to, probably. |
00:50.27 | Monet | But he might not because he was entrusted by the Isio'Nar to use his abilities wisely |
00:50.31 | TekDroid | So the whole of reality is just Sarec's headcanon in which nobody dies unless he wanst them to? |
00:50.54 | Tybusen | The entire universe is actually Sarec's fanfic |
00:50.57 | Monet | TekDroid: Now this is getting into existentialist territory hur |
00:51.02 | Tybusen | Sarec is the real author |
00:51.09 | Tybusen | We are Sarec |
00:51.11 | Tybusen | Sarec is us |
00:51.33 | TekDroid | O.o |
00:51.37 | Hachiman | Post-ascension Hachiman can observe the dreams of other people as they are having them and retain memory of them, and 600,000 AD Hachiman can do it with the scale of the whole of the Gigaquadrant subconsciously |
00:51.59 | Tybusen | Hachiman - i see u when u sleepin |
00:52.22 | Monet | Hachiman: Good thing he has an Essential's brain |
00:52.30 | Hachiman | He also most probably has the ability to interact with said dreams in any manner of ways |
00:52.42 | Wormy_STO | I'm building a custom alien character in STO and it will be Yoda's specie |
00:52.46 | Hachiman | Which leads to creepy implications given Hachiman's perverted nature |
00:53.11 | Monet | That kind of information influx is probably unimagineable to humans given how there is always a huge number of peopel sleeping. |
00:53.38 | TekDroid | So the universe's dreams become quadrillions of quadrillions of hachixanything fanfics. |
00:54.09 | Monet | Shit... |
00:54.16 | Monet | Hachi wat have u dun |
00:54.34 | Hachiman | Hachiman - hope u like wakin up wet shitheads |
00:54.35 | Tybusen | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFSoVgBtDI0 Hachiman |
00:55.15 | TekDroid | He makes up for decades by millenia of doing it to literally everything at once. O.O |
00:55.44 | Monet | This is probably what also makes the Isio'Nar so scary. |
00:56.21 | TekDroid | New plan: Kill Hachi before he ascends, for the sake of reality. |
00:56.21 | Tybusen | Between Sarec's headcanon powers and Hachi's dream invasion powers I think we're looking at the meta-authors of the Fictionverse |
00:56.22 | Monet | Who needs to blow up a planet when you can simply spread a memetic idea of mass suicide? |
00:57.47 | Hachiman | Yeah but what you must realise is |
00:57.48 | Hachiman | Pre-ascension Hachiman already weaponises dreams |
00:57.48 | Hachiman | That is what Dream Energy is |
00:57.48 | Monet | In fact screw a single planet. |
00:57.48 | Monet | In theory, with the right potential, a single Isio'nar could use memetics to collapse an empire |
00:57.49 | TekDroid | O.o |
00:57.59 | Monet | ...and there's a slim chance they already have |
00:58.22 | Hachiman | Isio'Nar collapse entire civilisations with dank memes |
00:58.22 | Tybusen | Isio'nar - wow such collapse much witchcraft |
00:58.44 | Tybusen | guys |
00:58.51 | Monet | Hachiman: ANd their job only gets easier as civilization becomes more interconnected. |
00:58.58 | Tybusen | What if that's exactly what the Isio'Nar are doing to us right now |
00:59.24 | Monet | Well tis is mor eMali'Nar territory. |
00:59.47 | Monet | BUUT given the Isio'Nar are all about order and stability, they are not to be excluded. |
01:01.24 | Tybusen | Maybe the Gigaquadrant was supposed to be a peaceful place where everyone got along, but then we the authors came in and screwed everything up |
01:01.24 | Tybusen | So now the Isio'nar will restore order by destroying their creators |
01:01.25 | Hachiman | It is probably a given that since Shu'wokerama, thus the Corruptus, exists in 600,000 AD that Hachiman is most likely using his powers of dream intervention to prevent Corruptus memetic influence through nightmares |
01:01.27 | Hachiman | Alongside the occasional Hachiman X Dreamer dream |
01:01.38 | Tybusen | Hachiman - sweet dreams are made of me |
01:01.47 | Hachiman | My sides |
01:02.05 | Monet | This is what draws me the most to the Nars |
01:02.26 | Monet | We don't see the mmuch, but that begs the question of how much activity are we *not* seeing |
01:03.45 | Technobliterator | hi tybusen |
01:03.54 | Technobliterator | Haven't seen you in a while :o |
01:04.03 | Tybusen | ohayo Techno |
01:05.01 | Tybusen | Monet: There's the whole concept that most stories are a selection of the most interesting parts that happened in the story's timeframe, and we're not seeing the potentially large amounts of downtime in between |
01:05.41 | Technobliterator | have you been around? or have I just failed to pay attention? |
01:05.55 | Monet | Tybusen: True. |
01:06.23 | Tybusen | Technobliterator: I sort of went on an unannounced hiatus but I'm lurking around again |
01:06.28 | Monet | And political manipulationtends ot be slower than more rapid stuff like instant mindrape |
01:07.01 | Technobliterator | ah, fair enough |
01:07.05 | Technobliterator | That happens |
01:07.16 | Technobliterator | How've you been :o |
01:08.18 | Tybusen | Pretty good |
01:08.31 | Tybusen | Having to deal with some school stuff but my time is starting to free up |
01:08.49 | Technobliterator | Mine is going in the opposite direction |
01:09.06 | Technobliterator | Too much college stuff to deal with...;__; |
01:13.58 | GD12 | freed up because ivy friday was last week lol |
01:14.05 | GD12 | so now all he has to do is not get rescinded |
01:14.07 | GD12 | :) |
01:14.34 | Tybusen | Yup |
01:14.40 | Tybusen | Just gotta make sure not to crash |
01:16.13 | GD12 | its the one point in a adolescent engineers life where one can relax lol |
01:20.11 | Monet | Tybusen: The curious thing is that the Inquisition and predecessor organisations have been fighting the Isio'Nar for a log time |
01:20.32 | Monet | Makes me wonder now if it was ever the Draconis who really came up with the idea. |
01:20.51 | Monet | Or if they were simply sheltering an order that long predates the Imperium. |
01:24.09 | Monet | I kinda like Hachi's suggestion that the Imperium as we know it is essentially memetic. |
01:24.34 | Monet | That there was soem long-forogotten origin age to it. And the inhabitants of ALcanti simply took charge |
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01:30.36 | Wormy_STO | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Angry_Yoda_lady.png |
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03:01.38 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
03:02.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
03:09.45 | Knight_Alien | I like how I started listening to Madeon and now I am also listening to the genesis bands old album ''Nursery Cryme'' which has songs about nine year olds playing games with servered heads, giant hogweeds eating people and ''The happiness machine'' is just eivl on it's own XD |
03:11.35 | Knight_Alien | And crazy as the song themes are, it is pretty good to listen to. |
03:12.24 | DrodoEmpire | Huh. |
03:18.49 | Knight_Alien | I am sure that Genesis's members were on something when they made these songs. |
03:20.24 | Knight_Alien | Their new songs aren't weird like their 1970's counterparts were you could make songs about anything because everyone was on drugs. |
03:20.49 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
03:21.14 | DrodoEmpire | If my peer group is any indication, drugs are more prevalant *now* than then. :p |
03:22.12 | Knight_Alien | Well back then almost everyone was saying dank. Now only some people do drugs. |
03:22.49 | Knight_Alien | And only one kid did drugs in my area and he died from it. (Enforcing a scare into many) |
03:23.07 | DrodoEmpire | "Now only some people do drugs." - hah |
03:23.12 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
03:23.34 | DrodoEmpire | We must live in *very* different areas, then. |
03:24.58 | Knight_Alien | I live on the outskirts of a town which is on the outskirts of a city XD |
03:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but I mean country |
03:27.15 | DrodoEmpire | Canada, as I see it right now, seems to have quite the drug problem among the young people. :L |
03:27.15 | Knight_Alien | I deal with traditionalist families who go to church. |
03:28.31 | Knight_Alien | Yhounger generations are rebellious because they usually don't have good parents because their parents were dooped up. |
03:28.52 | DrodoEmpire | That's a... Ridiculous oversimplification |
03:28.54 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
03:29.03 | DrodoEmpire | There's a *lot* of issues effecting this stuff |
03:30.16 | DrodoEmpire | Where they live, how much they/their parents make, who their parents are, who they know, what they get into, where they're from, what they believe... That's just off of the top of my head. |
03:30.34 | Knight_Alien | So since the baby boomer generation, rebellious misfits are more common. Drugs have become more common in people since some generations worth have been affected by antics of the baby boomers. |
03:30.58 | DrodoEmpire | "Rebellious misfits"? Are we in the 1850's? |
03:31.11 | Knight_Alien | This is overall America, not other countries. |
03:31.39 | Knight_Alien | I know I use older wording. |
03:31.50 | DrodoEmpire | You use silly wording. |
03:32.20 | Knight_Alien | How is it silly? Can't I add a little humor to things. :< |
03:32.32 | DrodoEmpire | Okay okay, lemme get this straight... You believe the current generations are led astray because of... What, precisely? |
03:32.53 | Knight_Alien | Generations ever since the baby boomers. |
03:32.54 | DrodoEmpire | Bad parenting? Definitely a big part of it, but not the only part. |
03:33.06 | DrodoEmpire | So wait |
03:33.21 | DrodoEmpire | Nevermind;d |
03:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | (Nevermind. |
03:34.06 | Knight_Alien | Bad parenting is a big part though. |
03:34.12 | DrodoEmpire | I knw |
03:34.14 | DrodoEmpire | *know |
03:36.08 | Knight_Alien | But a-lot of baby boomers were rebellious for some reason and mostly changed america in many ways. |
03:36.33 | DrodoEmpire | Rebellious? |
03:37.13 | DrodoEmpire | You mean the same people who led the civil rights movement? That was simple "rebellion"? Do you really think America was some sort of paradise before them? |
03:37.52 | DrodoEmpire | What a paradise it bloody was. Where you could be killed for being black, and you had to fight a damned *war* just to end an evil such as slavery. |
03:38.09 | Knight_Alien | No, but it is better then a musical wasteland full of doop uped idiots who only live in the moment. |
03:38.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hardly |
03:38.21 | DrodoEmpire | And that's hardly the modern condition |
03:39.13 | Knight_Alien | It is, their is so much corruption, lack of faith and overall self-destruction that I could make a dirnk out of it. |
03:39.14 | DrodoEmpire | I'd take the modern world, where people do drugs, but at least realize we're all fucking *human*, over having to kill eachother over the question of "Hey, forcing people to work without pay because they're black's bad!". |
03:39.39 | DrodoEmpire | Lack of faith's good. Religion is tearing society apart. |
03:39.58 | Knight_Alien | It sets rules and systems. |
03:40.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its not the end of the world because people are willing to look beyond the barbaric values of the past, KA. |
03:40.22 | DrodoEmpire | What rules? Like women being killed for doing men's jobs? |
03:40.39 | DrodoEmpire | Like being murdered for leaving a religion? Or working on a Sunday? |
03:41.05 | DrodoEmpire | What systems? Feudalism? |
03:41.12 | Knight_Alien | I never agreed with those warrior religions. |
03:41.22 | DrodoEmpire | Including Christianity? |
03:41.32 | Knight_Alien | It is not a warrior religion. |
03:41.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hah! |
03:41.40 | DrodoEmpire | What do you call the crusades? |
03:41.59 | DrodoEmpire | What do you call Moses killing 3000 of his followers for worshipping a golden statue? |
03:42.07 | Knight_Alien | It has had a bloody past, but those were bad christains. They wished to spread God by force and ultimately drove more away. |
03:42.16 | DrodoEmpire | What do you call God sending a plague for Egypt for no reason? |
03:42.18 | Knight_Alien | Moses was jsutified. |
03:42.23 | DrodoEmpire | How so? |
03:42.43 | DrodoEmpire | How were they "bad" Christians? The *Pope*, of all people, approved! |
03:42.55 | DrodoEmpire | No, that is your religion in its purest, most literal form. |
03:43.25 | Knight_Alien | Worshipping a golden statue in such a sick age of hate and violence. Those people were betetr off dead for betraying the God they dedicated themselves to. |
03:43.36 | DrodoEmpire | You're absolutely insane. |
03:43.50 | DrodoEmpire | You're proving my point, moreover |
03:43.57 | Knight_Alien | No, it is simple dedication, I do not have the stomach for such a thing. |
03:44.05 | Knight_Alien | I could never do that. |
03:44.10 | DrodoEmpire | You plead that you do not follow a "warrior" religion, yet you wish deat upon people who leave your religion! |
03:44.16 | Knight_Alien | But back then you had to or you would die. |
03:44.17 | DrodoEmpire | *death |
03:44.28 | DrodoEmpire | How dare you justify the atrocities of the past? |
03:44.51 | DrodoEmpire | The Holocaust was justified on religious grounds, too. Are you okay with *it*, too? |
03:44.52 | Knight_Alien | I do not wishd eath upon those who leave. |
03:45.09 | DrodoEmpire | "Those people were betetr off dead for betraying the God they dedicated themselves to." - Hypocrite. |
03:45.17 | DrodoEmpire | Actually no, outright lies. |
03:45.18 | Knight_Alien | I do not agree that the holocaust was religously proven at all. |
03:45.24 | Knight_Alien | It was terrible. |
03:45.24 | DrodoEmpire | Actually, it was |
03:45.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hitler was a devout Catholic |
03:45.49 | Knight_Alien | Hitler warped the religion in germany. |
03:45.55 | DrodoEmpire | And it was targeted primarily towards Jews, and justified religiously by the official policy of anti-semitism of the time |
03:46.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hardly |
03:46.06 | Knight_Alien | He killed pastors and priest if they wouldn't yield. |
03:46.10 | DrodoEmpire | Anti-semitism was church doctrine |
03:46.34 | DrodoEmpire | He killed *anybody* who would yield |
03:46.45 | Knight_Alien | But look now people can think unlike Moses age were barbarians was common. |
03:46.45 | DrodoEmpire | He didn't target priests and pastors in particular |
03:47.04 | DrodoEmpire | People were not *dumber* back then. |
03:47.04 | Knight_Alien | Times have changed. |
03:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | They were more ignorant |
03:47.15 | DrodoEmpire | exactly, KA |
03:47.23 | DrodoEmpire | So why do you wish to cling to obsolete values? |
03:47.37 | DrodoEmpire | Values that, before the Baby Boomers, arrived, were "perfect"? |
03:47.44 | Knight_Alien | Yes and a people leaving God for a statue and willing to kill Christains for that statue are not good. |
03:47.57 | Knight_Alien | *Not yes to cling* |
03:48.03 | Knight_Alien | *Yes to ignorant* |
03:48.19 | DrodoEmpire | Christians killing statue worshippers for leaving, or killing for their god is no better. |
03:48.24 | DrodoEmpire | In fact it might be worse |
03:48.35 | DrodoEmpire | You aren't making sense and frankly I no longer wish to talk to you |
03:49.11 | Knight_Alien | In Moses age, you had to protect yourself. |
03:49.25 | DrodoEmpire | Good day to you. I am finished with the discussion. |
03:49.41 | Knight_Alien | If a peoples wish to kill you and are within your faction, you stomp them out. |
03:49.55 | Knight_Alien | It is simple logic. |
03:50.55 | Knight_Alien | Religion isn't bad, It just that you are thinking about times back then and now. |
03:51.14 | Knight_Alien | *Aren't* |
03:51.31 | Knight_Alien | You try to add Civilized logic to a barbaric age. |
03:51.45 | DrodoEmpire | Okay, think of it this way |
03:51.47 | Knight_Alien | Kill or be killed was the time back then. |
03:51.55 | DrodoEmpire | TIme *were* different, of course. People thought differently |
03:52.02 | Knight_Alien | Yes. |
03:52.03 | DrodoEmpire | The Bible was written in a different age |
03:52.11 | Knight_Alien | Yes. |
03:52.17 | DrodoEmpire | We now think of the actions done then as *wrong*, correct? |
03:52.19 | DrodoEmpire | Therefore |
03:52.52 | DrodoEmpire | The Bible is *not* something you build a modern, enlightened society on. Ever. It should be discarded, or read for its secular literary value only. |
03:53.11 | Knight_Alien | No, it tells the stories of the Christain faith. |
03:53.38 | DrodoEmpire | ...And also instructs morals and lifestyle. |
03:53.42 | Knight_Alien | It shows what the Christain people had to go through, not matter how bloody and bad it was. |
03:53.50 | Knight_Alien | *no* |
03:53.58 | DrodoEmpire | *Shows the trail of blood left of Christains |
03:54.00 | DrodoEmpire | *ians |
03:54.05 | DrodoEmpire | *YES*. |
03:54.16 | Knight_Alien | No. |
03:54.25 | DrodoEmpire | Oh really? Then why does it exp- |
03:54.31 | DrodoEmpire | Nevermind, you're a brick wall |
03:54.35 | DrodoEmpire | Don't lure me into this again. |
03:54.42 | DrodoEmpire | I'm losing my patience, fasy. |
03:54.44 | DrodoEmpire | *fast |
03:54.47 | Knight_Alien | If you shoot a man for attempted murder and kill him, are you innocent? |
03:55.09 | DrodoEmpire | What did I just say? |
03:55.15 | OfficerJackal | Wait, uhh. |
03:55.22 | Knight_Alien | Self-defense is what you would say. |
03:55.24 | OfficerJackal | Are we talking about the Old Testament or the New Testament bible? |
03:55.59 | Knight_Alien | You would stilled be questioned but you would believe that It was for the right of your survival. |
03:56.09 | Knight_Alien | *still* |
03:56.44 | DrodoEmpire | KA, I'm giving you one last chance to be quiet about this. I'm finished. I know you enjoy luring me back into this. Now stop. Right. Now. |
03:56.44 | Knight_Alien | That is what Mose did now stop being the presecutor and become the audience. |
03:58.08 | Knight_Alien | I find it odd that intelligent people usually do not look at things from a neutral standpoint. |
03:58.40 | Knight_Alien | Look a tthe motivies and goals that drove a people, not popular thought. |
03:58.57 | DrodoEmpire | You like to test my patience, don't you? |
03:59.26 | Knight_Alien | I am nto talking about religion, I am talking about overall observations now. |
03:59.39 | DrodoEmpire | For your sake, I do hope so. |
03:59.45 | Vincent20100 | Heyguys! |
04:00.04 | Knight_Alien | My sake, for all you know I could loop this around into religion again. |
04:00.26 | OfficerJackal | Vincent20100: Heyo! |
04:00.31 | Vincent20100 | Hey! :p |
04:00.52 | Knight_Alien | But just how people look at things bothers me since it is usually a baises standpoint. |
04:02.10 | Knight_Alien | Yes their are so many groups, It is good to see what their goal truely is. |
04:02.36 | Knight_Alien | Even if they are a terrible group better off gone. |
04:04.12 | Knight_Alien | But the thing with Mose killing those ''converted'' peoples was for his religions survival. You may think it was completely wrong but, you weren't alive back then so you do not know how bad it truely was. |
04:04.31 | Knight_Alien | Neither do I know how bad it was. |
04:05.54 | Knight_Alien | But he took action and no matter what action you take, someone will be against you for the simple fact of ''They don't agree''. |
04:06.42 | DrodoEmpire | You're justifying the masscre of 3000 otherwise innocent people. Shut the hell up. |
04:06.47 | DrodoEmpire | *massacre |
04:06.51 | Knight_Alien | Inncoent, I think not. |
04:07.03 | DrodoEmpire | "religious survival"? |
04:07.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, yeah, they decided to convert. That's the death penalty, right? |
04:07.30 | DrodoEmpire | Just be quiet and sit down. |
04:07.39 | DrodoEmpire | You're purposely aggravating me/ |
04:07.52 | Knight_Alien | You have a view point of a religous freedom world. |
04:08.46 | Knight_Alien | They didn't have that and who says those followers didn't want to slit Christian thorats. |
04:08.59 | DrodoEmpire | Who says they *did*? |
04:09.04 | DrodoEmpire | WHat type of shitty evidence is that? |
04:09.41 | DrodoEmpire | By your logic, a cop could shoot someone, find they were completely unarmed and had no criminal record, and they could say "Who says he didn't *want* to commit a crime?" and he'd go scot-free. |
04:09.54 | Knight_Alien | Back then everyone hated eachother so do not stand before me and say they wouldn't want to kill people for power. |
04:10.27 | DrodoEmpire | And don't stand before *me* and say the Christians would do the same! |
04:10.29 | Knight_Alien | Those golden statue followers were as corrupt as ever. |
04:10.58 | Knight_Alien | Moses didn't kill for power. |
04:11.12 | Knight_Alien | He did it for survival. |
04:12.08 | Knight_Alien | But once again, that is hard for people to understand sicne we don't live in his age of war. |
04:12.09 | DrodoEmpire | KA, I just want to let you know I'm doing my *hardest*, not to simply lose my mind right now. Its best you stop talking right now. |
04:12.32 | DrodoEmpire | And give ourselves some room to think. |
04:12.37 | Knight_Alien | What am I doing that has made you angry, seriously? |
04:12.43 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, I dunno |
04:12.48 | DrodoEmpire | You justified genocide |
04:12.54 | DrodoEmpire | You used bad logic |
04:13.20 | DrodoEmpire | You want to return to the "traditional values"; i.e racism and other assorted barbarism |
04:13.29 | Knight_Alien | I am stating my ideas in a world of ''freedom'' and you are getting mad like I attacked you eprsonally. |
04:13.38 | Knight_Alien | I am not justifying genocide. |
04:13.43 | DrodoEmpire | And blatantly accuse the baby boomers and subsequent generations for all of the world's ills |
04:14.15 | Knight_Alien | I do not want racisim, never have I wnated that. |
04:14.23 | DrodoEmpire | I consider it a deep attack on the collective goodness of mankind to try and justify the murder of 3000 human beings. |
04:14.48 | Knight_Alien | Wicked humans. |
04:15.04 | DrodoEmpire | And you seem to be among the more wicked. Now are we done here? |
04:15.09 | Knight_Alien | Who would kill entire villages for their feil statue. |
04:15.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yes. Sound familiar? |
04:15.45 | Knight_Alien | Once again, you aren't religous so you are thinking from a freedom of religion standpoint. |
04:16.08 | Knight_Alien | *Not that being religous makes you wish for no freedom of religion* |
04:16.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, the freedom for people to believe what they want. |
04:16.44 | Knight_Alien | Once again Moses was fighting for survival, not gain. |
04:17.16 | DrodoEmpire | I'll let you repeat like the broken record you are. |
04:18.15 | Knight_Alien | So you would be fine with people worshipping a golden statue down the street? |
04:18.39 | Knight_Alien | Freedom of religion is good, but come on, that is just crazy. |
04:18.55 | DrodoEmpire | So is worshipping an imaginary fucking friend. |
04:19.07 | DrodoEmpire | If you want to go down this route. |
04:19.28 | Knight_Alien | Imaginary, I think not. |
04:19.41 | Knight_Alien | Explain ghosts to me then. |
04:19.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I'ma just, at long last, let you go on like the bad troll you are. |
04:20.08 | Knight_Alien | I am not trolling. |
04:21.04 | Knight_Alien | I am sharing my idea's and you are simply getting mad. |
04:22.29 | Knight_Alien | I am tired of talking to people about such large topics and them resorting to nothing but illogical respounses that are jsut meant to enrage me. |
04:23.28 | Knight_Alien | Because they simply are not open minded. |
04:25.13 | Knight_Alien | And now this is seen as normal to be closed minded and to resort to barbaric respounses. |
04:26.41 | Knight_Alien | And the first second they feel they are losing or don't understand, they wave the freedom flag, as if it is going to shut me up. |
04:27.26 | Knight_Alien | I am not angry, this is just weird. |
04:28.00 | Knight_Alien | Weird to me that is. |
04:29.04 | Knight_Alien | So please stop being mad Drodo, I am not. |
04:29.49 | Knight_Alien | I just wanted to discuss something and you got angry. |
04:30.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, and you're currently making an infantile attempt to get a rise out of me. |
04:30.42 | DrodoEmpire | Proves who's the bigger man here. |
04:30.58 | Knight_Alien | I am not, I am serious. |
04:31.29 | Knight_Alien | Why are you being so hateful? |
04:31.59 | Knight_Alien | It isn't worth getting mad about, just because I have a different view. |
04:32.39 | DrodoEmpire | Because I find your opinions on genocide appalling. I hate your opinions and I hate your current conduct. You're a bad liar; Its obvious you want a reaction or else you wouldn't be droning on about it until I speak. |
04:32.48 | Knight_Alien | And then when I say how I didn't want it to get like this, you just act as if I am making a attempt to atatck you. |
04:33.19 | Knight_Alien | I do not agree with Genocide. |
04:33.36 | DrodoEmpire | Read what you've wrote. |
04:34.11 | Knight_Alien | I know what I wrote, like I said before. |
04:35.45 | Knight_Alien | I do not agree with genocide and never wish to see it happen or enact it in my life. |
04:36.02 | Knight_Alien | But the past is the past, If I agree on a cult being taken out, then so be it. |
04:36.12 | Knight_Alien | But that is it. |
04:36.13 | DrodoEmpire | What differs a cult from a religion? |
04:36.32 | DrodoEmpire | Actually, no, I don't want to know your answer |
04:36.40 | DrodoEmpire | Because I just want this to be over with |
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04:37.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hi. |
04:37.42 | Knight_Alien | Genocide is wrong. |
04:38.34 | Knight_Alien | But peoples have been killed off in the past and the world is better even if it was caused by such a hateful and controversial way. |
04:40.47 | Knight_Alien | So there it is. |
04:42.23 | Knight_Alien | You can stop being angry now. |
04:43.55 | Knight_Alien | I just want one time were you don't get mad, and that is what I leave you with. |
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08:56.55 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
08:59.37 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/530637837920162764/4F3D4F03B3A9F5E912326F08EC763D8344010C78/ So I started making a Civ 5 mod |
09:00.27 | Liquid_Ink | Cool |
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10:59.43 | Wormy_away | Fuck sake, they should psych test police officers if they are to work in society http://imgur.com/gallery/M3qgswT |
10:59.56 | Wormy_away | and carry guns in public |
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11:39.34 | ImpyUni | Hijacking a university computer FOR GREAT JUSTICE |
11:39.37 | ImpyUni | Hi |
11:53.59 | Xho | dat not justis |
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11:55.58 | Xho | ImpyUni: That comment on Telfinne running 9000 m/s is 'overpowered' |
11:56.08 | Xho | If that's overpowered he's gonna cry when he sees the rest of fiction |
11:57.02 | ImpyUni | Heh |
11:57.14 | ImpyUni | admjittedly Telfinne running 9 km/s is a bit stupid |
11:57.20 | ImpyUni | She's not a Roadrunner hur |
11:59.11 | Xho | Telfinne - MEEP MEEP |
12:01.53 | Semi_Worm | I wonder which SporeWiki race the Klingon theme best fits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SyyZPstIhc |
12:03.09 | Xho | Zazane probably |
12:03.24 | Semi_Worm | original https://youtu.be/CXYjvrzJkl8?t=1m25s |
12:04.02 | Semi_Worm | Don't say that to H\chi, he hates Klingons |
12:04.48 | Xho | In that case not the Zazane then |
12:06.30 | Semi_Worm | Hm, Imperios's cat race maybe? |
12:06.53 | ImpyUni | Artharons? |
12:07.02 | ImpyUni | Could work, they share a Mongolesque feel |
12:07.59 | Semi_Worm | indeed |
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12:42.00 | Monet | Hello |
12:56.07 | Semi_Worm | hi |
12:56.56 | Semi_Worm | Monet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XGi8klDNQ |
12:58.45 | Monet | Dat Worf codpiece |
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13:02.33 | Semi_Worm | lol |
13:02.36 | Semi_Worm | hi |
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13:02.53 | Semi_Worm | I can't watch TNG without thinking of Grin's recuts anymore |
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13:03.09 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
13:03.33 | Xho | ups |
13:03.52 | OluapPlayer | spahh |
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13:12.25 | Hachiman | Hai |
13:12.26 | Xho | rabit |
13:13.04 | Xho | http://i.imgur.com/ewWF679.jpg |
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13:13.31 | Quark8 | Hello. |
13:13.33 | OluapPlayer | ~cuddle Hachiman |
13:13.34 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
13:14.02 | Xho | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBcSHnPUYAA9zCd.jpg:large |
13:14.42 | Semi_Worm | https://twitter.com/ChandniKhondji/status/568139738852548608 |
13:15.38 | Xho | Hachiman: Should we get around to doing that story with Hachi and Kezoreg and Kithworto |
13:15.49 | Hachiman | In a bit, I gotta few things to do |
13:15.53 | Xho | rnaf |
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13:21.27 | Xho | Suddenly went quite dark outside |
13:21.34 | OluapPlayer | u dai |
13:22.34 | Xho | nooh |
13:24.54 | Xho | I have this compulsion to remake the Kicath again but |
13:24.55 | Xho | agh |
13:24.57 | Xho | I dunno |
13:27.41 | Xho | Cyrannian suggested that I could make a Nax character for the Brezank plot |
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13:33.02 | Hachiman | Goddamn fucking internet ech |
13:33.06 | Xho | hech |
13:34.56 | AdmiralPanda | heh |
13:35.20 | Xho | Ech to Heh: The Transformation |
13:35.48 | AdmiralPanda | *explosions* directed by Michael Bay *casual racism* |
13:36.19 | Hachiman | inb4 shrek turtles |
13:36.36 | Semi_Worm | Hachi: Another theme to fit the Xeelee Sequence maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axFHfDIN758 |
13:37.39 | Semi_Worm | Maybe Blue Shift |
13:40.33 | Hachiman | Yeah that fits rather well with the Sequence |
13:41.07 | Hachiman | I remember you showing me a paragraph about how the Xeelee reproduce |
13:41.22 | Hachiman | I cannot remember where to find it now or how they did reproduce |
13:41.29 | Hachiman | I just know it involved sacrifice |
13:41.59 | Semi_Worm | Yeah, bitter sweet the way they do it |
13:42.15 | Semi_Worm | I think it involved shedding themselves using black holes |
13:44.20 | Semi_Worm | A bit of me hopes the Fast Radio Bursts are alien in origin, because if they are, they are all over the galaxy coming from objects several hundred km wide with the power of stars |
13:44.52 | Semi_Worm | Of course that should be terrifying too |
13:45.03 | Hachiman | There is a part of me that does not entirely care whether aliens are "benevolent" or "malevolent" or not |
13:45.07 | Semi_Worm | Though, small exotic stars might also fit the bill |
13:45.13 | Hachiman | Just the fact life exists beyond our Earth is amazing |
13:45.23 | Semi_Worm | indeed |
13:45.58 | Semi_Worm | I like to think, they are rather indifferent and alien to each other, so take a long time to communicate if at all |
13:46.33 | Hachiman | That would be reassuring |
13:47.23 | Semi_Worm | There may still be something space opera, because human colonists might diverge and become the rubber forehead aliens popular SF tends to imagine |
13:48.35 | Hachiman | Uplift animals into sapient species and such |
13:49.25 | Semi_Worm | Did you read the short story about the Quagmites? |
13:49.25 | AdmiralPanda | the fact that life exists outside Earth is beyond question at this point, the question is is that life intelligent |
13:50.45 | Hachiman | Quagmites? Do not believe I have |
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13:51.20 | Semi_Worm | One of my lecturers said she thinks life probably was on Mars, and might still be after asking our opinions |
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13:51.45 | Semi_Worm | Hachi: Quagma Datum http://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/148154/28/Baxter_-_Vacuum_Diagrams.html |
13:51.51 | Hachiman | Well yeah, I do believe that due to the sheer scale of the ever-expanding universe alien life is a probability |
13:52.04 | Hachiman | But stuff like ancient astronauts and such, I am not inclined to believe |
13:52.07 | Semi_Worm | If we find life in this Solar System that would greatly open up possibilities |
13:52.49 | Semi_Worm | The Quagmites lives in the Quark-Gluon era, but realised they were going to die out so created an artifact so they could be remembered |
13:53.04 | AdmiralPanda | you guys do realise we found the remnants of microbes on mars, right? |
13:53.35 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10403294_1034926599868254_548213644664529866_n.jpg?oh=91764b14170c9c2bd2a0194801e71d2d&oe=55AA237A&__gda__=1437199051_01a66afe1df0048087761cfb30271bec Look what I got for Easter |
13:53.43 | AdmiralPanda | extraterrestrial life is a thing, it's a known fact |
13:53.50 | Hachiman | olol |
13:53.56 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: Someone knows you so well |
13:54.00 | Semi_Worm | That story is showing its age "A nova-bright object fifteen billion light years away" |
13:54.13 | Xho | That someone would be my sister |
13:54.14 | Semi_Worm | Oh wait no thats fine |
13:54.21 | Semi_Worm | I read that as "ago" |
13:54.46 | AdmiralPanda | then your sister completely understands your personality |
13:55.12 | Xho | Pretty much |
13:55.14 | Semi_Worm | Panda: I've read much into the speculation about microbial remnants, but as far as I'm aware, it was inconclusive. |
13:55.21 | Xho | In terms of personality my sister and I are almost the same |
13:55.32 | Xho | Except I'm a lot more careful with money |
13:55.40 | Hachiman | Well she is a woman |
13:56.00 | Xho | #feminaziinflux |
13:56.37 | Hachiman | #feministfrequency |
13:56.47 | Xho | What a name for a band |
13:59.40 | Hachiman | I am not fond of how people act like humans are naturally self-destructive when the trope could apply to any number of other sapient extraterrestrial species |
13:59.57 | Hachiman | Ideological differences exist in the animal world and the sapient one |
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14:09.56 | ImpyDroid | hiya |
14:10.12 | Hachiman | Hai Imp |
14:14.07 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10429280_339479509576034_6437589159215356935_n.png?oh=b70eb6e1cee7a383227831d50214a93e&oe=55A8A299 |
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14:16.21 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BodNRjVCHjU "He never asked for this, but he's going to give it to ya." |
14:18.03 | Xho | oh god |
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14:19.34 | Xho | Who the hell are all these new users coming in like wildfire |
14:20.21 | Hachiman | Dumbos |
14:20.38 | Xho | We should do this thing now |
14:20.50 | Hachiman | Yeah sure |
14:20.56 | AdmiralPanda | which thing? |
14:21.11 | Xho | It's an event that happened during Tantum |
14:21.22 | Xho | Basically, Hachi + Kezoreg vs Kithworto |
14:22.18 | Xho | #MarmiteNightmares |
14:22.50 | Semi_Worm | My inner Trekkie is coming oyt again |
14:22.52 | Hachiman | non |
14:22.57 | Hachiman | Go to TitanPad |
14:23.00 | Semi_Worm | Klingon theme has been on a loop all day |
14:23.10 | OluapPlayer | Can I watch dis |
14:23.31 | Xho | Yes |
14:23.34 | Xho | https://titanpad.com/hfwKuM2PNY dere den |
14:23.40 | Xho | I forget that TitanPad is a superior format |
14:23.45 | Xho | Or that it even exists |
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14:29.05 | Semi_Worm | hi |
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14:30.48 | Semi_Worm | fanmade but pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiB1A9c-KQA |
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14:36.21 | Semi_Worm | Monet: Andoria! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYcGn8O-toY |
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14:39.27 | Hachiman | Sorry about that, internet disconnected |
14:39.44 | AdmiralPanda | alg |
14:41.13 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10423764_10153758747265476_1263671380491848471_n.png?oh=f7543dca58429bcb288bca8c38baa67a&oe=55BAD1A3&__gda__=1436741062_45a92889c7af0630af37200a4aaa3a19 |
14:43.59 | Semi_Worm | Hachi: lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66fS2GGCqPQ |
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14:51.36 | Semi_Worm | Imagine a Vulcan Jedi |
14:51.46 | ImpyDroid | Semi_Worm: https://youtu.be/ETxmCCsMoD0 I thought that was the Ferengi anthem |
14:52.25 | Semi_Worm | it is i guess |
14:57.43 | Semi_Worm | The Cardassian one is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRzks4V-gT4&index=3&list=PLE5161E0093612424 |
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15:00.26 | AdmiralPanda | your internet is as dum as Hildibrant Manderville |
15:00.32 | AdmiralPanda | and holy shit that guy is dumb |
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15:06.31 | AdmiralPanda | right well, first segment of new fiction written |
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15:19.12 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://m.imgur.com/a/8anj7 genius |
15:22.05 | Semi_Worm | lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0e_Ilv4_o4 |
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15:24.37 | GD12 | hai |
15:26.25 | Monet | Hallo |
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15:46.07 | Xho | dafuq |
15:46.29 | Monet | Well that's one way ot cockblock |
15:46.40 | Xho | #dogs |
15:50.57 | GD12 | wat |
15:52.54 | Vincent20100_ | test |
15:53.54 | OfficerJackal | Vincent20100_: Loud and clear! |
15:54.03 | Vincent20100_ | ^^ |
15:55.09 | Semi_Worm | ouch is all i can say |
15:56.49 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11021174_1246463518703472_1252811507296326567_n.jpg?oh=78a749ef796bd0246ef77f3b4b95c05e&oe=55BEA61A&__gda__=1436634442_4b6d421f3c7c10380cfb3fa0bcec8013 |
15:56.55 | Xho | sadsfasdf |
15:56.58 | Xho | stoopid servers |
15:58.17 | Xho | Well I can't get back into it |
15:58.34 | Hachiman | hech |
15:59.07 | Xho | Anyone else in there |
15:59.32 | Monet | I last saw Oluap still in there |
15:59.36 | Hachiman | Nah I 502'd |
16:00.05 | Monet | I'm out as well though |
16:00.06 | Hachiman | Somebody should keep the link to it |
16:00.30 | Xho | Oh wait I'm back in |
16:00.48 | Hachiman | gimme link |
16:01.04 | Xho | https://titanpad.com/hfwKuM2PNY |
16:03.04 | Semi_Worm | sorry guys, couldn't help myself |
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16:27.15 | Cyrannian | Hai |
16:27.55 | OluapPlayer | ~slap Cyrannian |
16:28.01 | infobot | ACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
16:28.33 | Cyrannian | ~slam OluapPlayer |
16:28.33 | infobot | ACTION slams OluapPlayer against a large cement Tux |
16:32.26 | Xho | I just think of that as a tuxedo made of cement |
16:34.16 | OluapPlayer | olol |
16:41.54 | Semi_Worm | Cyrannian: Delta recruit, she is http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Angry_Yoda_lady.png |
16:44.38 | Cyrannian | Very attractive, Wormy |
16:46.32 | Semi_Worm | She'd make a good rival for Adelheidis's true form |
16:51.31 | Cyrannian | Try as you might, she'll never match the raw beauty of her jagged facial scars, facial hair and nightmarishly short skirts |
16:53.59 | Semi_Worm | who needs scars when you have pronounced cranial ridges with grey wirey hair, and look like a sickly Baby Einstein |
16:54.27 | Cyrannian | Scaring people on Risa will be extra fun now |
16:54.32 | Semi_Worm | lol |
16:54.57 | Cyrannian | Remember that one time we chased people on DS9? |
16:55.02 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10403637_696745987101138_6238732540098643767_n.jpg?oh=41d4c6a47935300a0b2780b5ba5240ca&oe=55B73D55&__gda__=1438022381_7b88d8733b26654d81d23f212cf45f29 |
16:55.03 | Semi_Worm | yeah |
16:56.31 | Semi_Worm | hm |
16:56.46 | Semi_Worm | why is it that my dog can pee on the pavement but I can't |
16:58.54 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna assume you're either drunk or not serious |
16:59.03 | Cyrannian | Wormy can go from talking about philosophy and physics to questioning why he cannot pee in public frighteningly quickly. |
16:59.35 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two#Second_Month - Updated as a lead up to Brezank Awakens |
16:59.39 | Semi_Worm | Nah I'm not drunk |
17:00.00 | Semi_Worm | Its just one of those things that pops into my head. |
17:00.04 | OluapPlayer | A smart person like you shouldn't make such retarded questions hur |
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17:00.20 | Cyrannian | Speaking of peeing in public, hi Ghelae |
17:00.22 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:00.34 | Semi_Worm | hello |
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17:01.11 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:05.10 | Cyrannian | Hachiman: Since you named the Crimson Meritocracy, can they become allies with the Brood? |
17:06.36 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Earning_Your_Place layeth the smackethdown |
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17:08.23 | OluapPlayer | gud now code up sauce |
17:19.09 | Technobliterator | just when you think you're ready to play dota 2 again, it spits in your face and shoves a middle finger at you |
17:19.29 | Technobliterator | uninstalling again |
17:23.43 | Semi_Worm | What happened? |
17:25.24 | Technobliterator | Nothing outside the ordinary, honestly |
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17:46.25 | Hachiman | Cyrannian: Cannot see why not |
17:46.41 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Lemme guess Russians |
17:47.00 | Technobliterator | Eh, it was just a shitty experience in general |
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17:49.07 | Quark8 | Hello |
17:49.21 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11136729_689293907859848_420131598483466684_n.jpg?oh=2eec6c34ea2d595df5ec26cf16a3b827&oe=55A440CB ">tfw huge pages steal your memes without tagging your page" |
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17:54.07 | OluapPlayer | olol |
17:56.16 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/11113597_1091661851030842_5833757203749889228_n.png?oh=466cb69481c22a00245155a16ba42ad6&oe=55B1D4E8&__gda__=1438001763_1b669947291bc2488a432c1d8564e164 |
17:58.36 | OluapPlayer | WOOF |
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18:49.05 | Xho | "Woman gets 250 stitches to her vagina after standing over a water jet" |
18:49.12 | Xho | Now that must hurt like fuck |
18:52.38 | OluapPlayer | Oh god ouch |
18:56.34 | Xho | Cyrannian OluapPlayer: I don't think I will participate in that Brezank story now |
18:56.41 | Xho | I can't find a character I want to use |
18:57.52 | OluapPlayer | lil dum boy |
18:58.27 | Xho | On the other hand I could create a Corruptus captain just to use and die in that story but that's up to you |
18:59.22 | Cyrannian | I don't see why not, though it's up to Oluap |
19:00.51 | OluapPlayer | That's not really possible since the Corruptus side of the story is composed entirely of Libertus demon swarms |
19:00.56 | OluapPlayer | There are no characters except for Brezank |
19:01.10 | Xho | darn |
19:01.50 | OluapPlayer | You could just say the Kicath sent some ships and soldiers and have these on the background |
19:02.14 | OluapPlayer | The story is mainly army vs army, not character-based |
19:02.31 | Xho | rite u do dat den |
19:05.51 | Hachiman | http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1428031488311.jpg |
19:06.28 | Hachiman | Need I remind you this actually happened |
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19:10.05 | OluapPlayer | SQUAWK |
19:10.10 | OluapPlayer | Or whatever is the noise an emu make |
19:10.11 | OluapPlayer | s |
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19:27.37 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/10355 - New map of the NCR |
19:30.18 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: c location of Brezank |
19:31.05 | OluapPlayer | dsgsdfg |
19:31.31 | OluapPlayer | I only see Mou'Cyran and Venetia |
19:32.21 | Cyrannian | Refresh |
19:32.21 | OluapPlayer | Ah now I see Brezank |
19:33.47 | Cyrannian | The kinda greenish space below the Republic are the Indocs by the way |
19:34.03 | OluapPlayer | I see |
19:36.42 | Cyrannian | Come up with a name for a capital and I'll add it |
19:38.25 | OluapPlayer | Hmm |
19:38.53 | OluapPlayer | Narsul |
19:40.14 | Cyrannian | added |
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19:47.54 | drom | Hello |
19:48.50 | Imperios | My life for Nar'sul |
19:48.52 | Imperios | ...wait what |
19:48.58 | Imperios | ImpyUni still lives? |
19:49.02 | Imperios | Fuck |
19:49.34 | Imperios | ImpyUni: TO WHOEVER IS WORKING ON THIS UNIVERSITY COMPUTER RIGHT NOW, TURN THE IRC OFF |
19:50.01 | Imperios | AND YES I WILL TALK TO YOU IN ENGLISH BECAUSE WE ARE GODDAMN LINGUISTS AND OUGHT TO UNDERSTAND SOME ENGLISH |
19:50.51 | Hachiman | hur |
19:50.58 | OluapPlayer | Can't I just kick that nick |
19:51.26 | Imperios | Perhaps |
19:51.31 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+b ImpyUni!*@*] by Technobliterator |
19:51.33 | *** kick/#sporewiki [ImpyUni!Technoblit@gateway/shell/firrre/x-vdsfkdkeqteemoyd] by Technobliterator (ImpyUni) |
19:51.37 | Imperios | But I want to see for how long thhe other me will handle |
19:51.38 | OluapPlayer | Not a valid answer |
19:51.40 | Imperios | -ah fuck whatever |
19:51.45 | Imperios | Wait why you banned him |
19:51.47 | Technobliterator | ^_^ |
19:51.52 | Technobliterator | I can always unban :o |
19:52.08 | Technobliterator | but I figured this way would be better for now |
19:52.14 | Technobliterator | so they can't return |
19:52.18 | Imperios | It was just me logging from a university computer while programming shit because I program shit fast |
19:52.22 | Technobliterator | yeah |
19:52.27 | Imperios | But it seems I forgot to log off |
19:52.35 | Technobliterator | I can unban it at the end of the day if you remind me |
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19:53.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
19:53.23 | Technobliterator | hi drodo |
19:55.29 | Imperios | Oh and speaking of programming shit, I learned how to mod Civilization V |
19:55.42 | Imperios | Now I wanna add some Fantasyverse or Fictionverse empires to it |
19:55.44 | Imperios | ...Or both |
19:55.46 | Technobliterator | Oh? |
19:55.57 | Hachiman | Imperios: In case this hypes you up, me and Oluap are doing the next chapter of Chronicle and it's gonna be epic |
19:56.01 | DrodoEmpire | That reminds me |
19:56.06 | Imperios | I am interested |
19:56.12 | DrodoEmpire | I should start a new SporeWiki EUIV mod. :p |
19:56.27 | DrodoEmpire | I lost the last one in a *huge* blunder while clearing out my Hard Drive. >.< |
19:56.44 | Hachiman | Kholduitanus vs the vengeful zombie cyber-ghosts of his family kek |
19:58.08 | OluapPlayer | It also marks the reveal of the true leader of the Grox invasion: Dark Lord Tigarlu |
19:58.35 | Xho | Well I just played a lot of Muse songs on bass |
19:59.29 | Xho | Must know a fair few now |
20:00.52 | DrodoEmpire | Well... I don't think I'll be able to do a fantasyverse mod, yet. :p |
20:00.53 | DrodoEmpire | At the very least I'd need some help |
20:02.35 | Xho | Figured out that I know 21 Muse songs |
20:02.39 | Xho | Typical |
20:03.06 | Xho | I could do a fairly decent gig then heh |
20:05.08 | Xho | And 18 of those 21 on guitar by the looks of it |
20:08.25 | Imperios | Hm so I wonder what kind of abilities could Fantasyverse or Fictionverse nations have in Civ V |
20:08.35 | Imperios | Or maybe they could work in the same package even |
20:08.46 | Imperios | Fantasyverse start off early, Fictionverse dominate the lategame |
20:08.48 | Imperios | Would make sense |
20:16.06 | Semi_Worm | Imperios: What kind of stuff to linguists program? AI-related? |
20:16.09 | Xho | The Shiarchon just turn into the Dominion late game |
20:16.10 | Semi_Worm | *do |
20:16.17 | Imperios | Lots of stuff |
20:16.25 | Imperios | Automated dictionaries, search engines |
20:16.33 | Imperios | Automatic translators |
20:16.53 | Imperios | So essentially stuff that sucks hur |
20:17.01 | Semi_Worm | I ask because cognitive scientist Douglas Hofstadter studies thinking, machines, translation, AI, logic and metaphor |
20:17.12 | Imperios | But yeah AIs are among things we do |
20:17.21 | Semi_Worm | and language is featured a lot in his books |
20:18.04 | Semi_Worm | You might find these useful btw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop |
20:18.31 | Semi_Worm | I'm reading them to learn more about abstractions and AI, but its a polymath's book written by a polymath |
20:23.04 | Xho | This kills the Xho |
20:23.27 | OluapPlayer | hur |
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20:30.05 | Xho | Now if I became a brony |
20:30.09 | Xho | How much of the universe would implode |
20:30.21 | OluapPlayer | 200% |
20:30.40 | Xho | So it would implode twice |
20:30.49 | Xho | That means it would cancel out the implosion right |
20:33.52 | MonetAway | More like we'd get a black hole withi na black hole |
20:35.31 | MonetAway | http://satwcomic.com/real-true-news I remember the origin of this story. |
20:36.36 | MonetAway | It's gunny how Pot Noodle ran an advertising campaign that talked about how Pot Noodle is mined in Wales. |
20:38.34 | MonetAway | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2006/jul/26/advertising1 and I didn't realise this happened. |
20:39.18 | MonetAway | "Viewers claim the ad is disrespectful because it shows mining in a lighthearted way, and this is insensitive to Welsh miners who work in difficult conditions where people have lost their lives." > does that also mean the Dwarves in Snow White are also offensive? |
20:40.35 | Imperios | Xho: 20% |
20:40.54 | Xho | 20% of the universe |
20:41.03 | Xho | Well I could kill off a few civilisations I guess |
20:41.30 | MonetAway | After Xho implodes the universe becomes 20% smaller *ricochet* |
20:41.46 | Imperios | Monet: >>At least it is true than RT and BBC's reports. XD Brilliant |
20:41.51 | Xho | i dunt geddit |
20:42.28 | MOnet | Xho: That's a good thing |
20:44.22 | MOnet | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32176517 I think this is a sign that First Past the Post in Britain is no longer as effective as it once was. |
20:47.24 | MOnet | We're looking at an election where there are three or four viable candidate parties, one of which has to get 51% of the votes. |
20:48.09 | Tek0516 | You need a majority in the UK? |
20:48.16 | MOnet | Yes. |
20:48.23 | Tek0516 | Interesting. |
20:49.05 | MOnet | 2010 was one of the first years that Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats all had a chance of victory in one year. What happened? A hung parliament and a coalition goverment. |
20:49.07 | Tek0516 | With 4 major parties in Canada that doesn't really work here. |
20:49.44 | MOnet | And apparently last night's debate suggests that the UK could be be looking at another coalition government |
20:50.52 | MOnet | TekDroid: There was a much anticipated debate last night that included the leaders of *seven* different parties. |
20:50.52 | Imperios | Xho: 20% something-er is ye olde brony meme |
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20:51.07 | Xho | WELL OF COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT |
20:51.30 | Tek0516 | Kinda glad Canada doesn't need majority leadership. Things still don't get far in a minority government but at least it still can work. |
20:52.09 | MOnet | Eve nbefore last night's debate there's bin discussions about political team-ups |
20:54.18 | Tek0516 | Apparently as of right now there 6 parties in Canadian Parliament (albiet 3 with only 2 seats each) and 8 independents. |
20:56.03 | MOnet | The downside I see with the British system is that it means there's only one party that actually has commanding authority. |
20:56.36 | MOnet | So the other 49% (or less) either fill seats or bring up issues. |
20:58.03 | MOnet | The main difference I see between this and a true aristocracy is the general public gets to elect who its aristocrats are. |
20:58.26 | Tek0516 | I think usually in English Canada we get three main parties of varying strength so minorities are fairly common. |
20:59.55 | Tek0516 | Not really sure how effective these minorities are. |
21:01.13 | Tek0516 | Especially since the last two minority governments I remember ended in an election being called and the minority becoming the majority government. |
21:01.49 | Tek0516 | So I'll say no, doesn't quite work here either. XD |
21:03.03 | MOnet | This might be controversial but fro mthe looks of things, democracy is mainly popular because it plays on our egos. |
21:03.29 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Eh maybe |
21:03.58 | MOnet | It gives us the power of who leads us, sure, but after that election period how much power do the people still have? |
21:05.31 | DrodoEmpire | I personally question the merits of democracy, and how much it *really* guarantees freedom. :p Like of course its a good system, but its not outright *superior* to all others. |
21:05.38 | MOnet | Adam Curtis loks into this with his documentary "century of the self". Modern democracy has become a media circus and this article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32166785 lends credance to the idea |
21:07.53 | MOnet | Each of the seven parties in that debate got their points across though social media and playing on what peopel were saying on Facebook and Twitter. |
21:08.05 | Imperios | Okay I am reading Maya myths for inspiration for freelanders |
21:08.20 | Imperios | Apparently one of the main evil gods in Maya mythology was a huge parrot |
21:08.24 | Imperios | Covered in gold |
21:08.57 | MOnet | Twitter ridicules Farage's conversation style -> Farage uses it to show how physically and behaviouralyl different he is from the other party leaders. |
21:09.05 | Imperios | http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/023/4/e/classic_mythology_ii__seven_macaw_by_meluran-d73givj.jpg Imma fucking wreck you m8 |
21:09.38 | MOnet | dem teeth |
21:09.52 | Xho | But beak |
21:09.53 | Xho | y teeth |
21:10.13 | Imperios | Because evil god parrot |
21:10.33 | Imperios | Actually I will borrow that character for Freelander history |
21:10.55 | OluapPlayer | burd |
21:10.59 | Imperios | As a notorious Orichalcum Elf legionary that ancient Freelanders fought |
21:11.00 | Xho | I just think of Shu'wokerama |
21:11.15 | OluapPlayer | Shu'wokerama - im a crow not a parrot |
21:11.18 | Xho | Orichalcum Elf Legionary - lol u peasants |
21:11.36 | Imperios | Maybe he even survived and became a Shiarchon |
21:11.41 | Imperios | Demon elf parrot |
21:11.45 | Xho | Maybe I dunno |
21:11.57 | Xho | I dunno how many Shiarchon really live from the times of the Orichalcum Elves |
21:12.51 | MOnet | "One of the funnier aspects of the wider discussion on social media was that many people appeared to have not realised that the Greens' leader Natalie Bennett is Australian until today. One said: "#greenparty And Australian?? Don't we have some kind of heritage requirements??"." > Now that's a point for diversity |
21:13.37 | Tek0516 | It's not like Australia wasn't British a little more than a century ago. >.> |
21:14.08 | MOnet | These are the kinds of people who may vote in May. |
21:14.28 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/v/1428090987440.jpg |
21:14.38 | MOnet | But for some reason Brits seem a little stingy about what they expect of PMs |
21:15.09 | MOnet | Take Ed Miliband: He's never lived down getting ambushed by a camera as he ate a bacon samwich |
21:15.21 | MOnet | Or was it ham? |
21:15.22 | Tek0516 | O.o |
21:15.43 | drom | So my friend posted this status in my friend activity feed. http://i.imgur.com/2xGP4vr.png |
21:16.08 | MOnet | When that went viral people joked that he couldn't possibly be PM material with this kand of face http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9409370.ece/alternates/w620/v3-miliband-selwynv2.jpg |
21:16.18 | MOnet | kind* |
21:16.26 | Tek0516 | drom: ...why would someone use that as a ringtone... |
21:19.07 | drom | Tek0516: I was used to have a cringeworthy ringtone for my mobile during my edgy WoW-player period. |
21:19.26 | Imperios | drom: BY FIRE BE PURGED? |
21:19.32 | Imperios | FROSTMOURNE HUNGERS? |
21:19.38 | MOnet | According to the Independant, that bacon sandwich incident made the shop owner think twice about voting Labour. |
21:20.58 | drom | Nah. I was also a very frequent Halo player and watched the Mastercheif parody videos. So "ur mobile is ringing omg btw lorlorlorlorl" |
21:21.29 | Xho | MY ROFLCOTPER GOES SOISOISOISOISOISOISOI |
21:21.30 | Tek0516 | O.o |
21:23.13 | drom | But now I've grown to hate every single ringtones. |
21:23.30 | MOnet | British (American might be the same) is more and more about getting in rather than making a difference. |
21:23.48 | MOnet | Politics never really changes. |
21:24.42 | Imperios | So apparently one of this parrot demon dude's sons helped the Maya kids with work so they got jealous and then asked him to dig a hole for them |
21:24.44 | Tek0516 | Yeah, I had a discussion on that in another server earlier today. |
21:24.55 | Tek0516 | O.o |
21:24.57 | Imperios | And when he did, threw a huge tree inside |
21:25.15 | Imperios | Why is all ancient mythology so full of dickish people hur |
21:25.39 | MOnet | nature is cruel and unforgiving and sometimes petty |
21:25.48 | MOnet | So it makes sense the gods are too. |
21:26.20 | Imperios | Not the gods |
21:26.22 | Imperios | The kids |
21:26.43 | Imperios | A god helped you and you kill him because you feared he might become better than you |
21:27.00 | Imperios | I thought Maya were supposed to be nice people hur |
21:27.56 | MOnet | >Nice people >engage in human sacrifice |
21:29.01 | MOnet | Then again I suppose they could be nice right up until your blood is trickling down the temple steps. |
21:29.14 | Imperios | Admittedly Maya only practiced human sacrifice rarely |
21:29.21 | Imperios | MUCH rarer than Incas or Aztecs |
21:29.24 | MOnet | Wait |
21:29.52 | MOnet | They were afraid a god "might become better than them" |
21:29.53 | drom | How many of you are War Thunder players? |
21:30.36 | Monet | I think creation of the world and complete control of the sun is good credentials for being greater than humans. |
21:32.21 | Imperios | Different gods |
21:33.11 | Imperios | The parrot thing they killed was basically a foreign force that appeared after the creation of the world but that claimed to be gods because of their wealth |
21:33.39 | drom | Imperios: http://www.warthunder.com/upload/image/!%202015%20NEWS/March/51321/art_st_1_1920x1080_logo_com.jpg |
21:33.44 | Monet | So they killed it because it was a threat to the natural order? |
21:33.55 | Imperios | Sort of, yes |
21:34.03 | Imperios | That and because they were arrogant by claiming they were gods |
21:34.17 | Imperios | ...Actually this reminds me of the big dragons from Dragon Age |
21:34.20 | Imperios | Old Gods or something |
21:34.51 | Monet | Old Gods yeah |
21:35.15 | Monet | To be fair though the Old Godsdid introduce (admittedly a highly controversial) form of magic to humanity |
21:35.56 | Imperios | Ya |
21:36.08 | Imperios | Oh and I also saw something interesting about Egyptian mythology as well |
21:36.12 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: >ccording to Lorton, in the Papyrus Bremner-Rhind 28, 2024, in a document called "Book of Overthrowing Apophis", there is a poem narrating how the sun god Ra had created the god Shu and goddess Tefnut by fellating himself and spitting out his own semen onto the ground. |
21:36.21 | Imperios | >sun god Ra had created the god Shu and goddess Tefnut by fellating himself and spitting out his own semen onto the ground. |
21:36.26 | Imperios | >god Shu |
21:36.42 | OluapPlayer | Shu - why do u think i have so many tentacles |
21:36.43 | Imperios | Holy shit that's how the Corruptus began |
21:36.55 | Monet | Ra fucked himself? |
21:36.58 | Imperios | Ya |
21:37.05 | OluapPlayer | Sucked his own dick |
21:37.08 | OluapPlayer | Apparently |
21:37.17 | Monet | Ra - Like a boss! |
21:37.24 | Hachiman | I dunno what's more impressive |
21:37.39 | Hachiman | Ra sucking his own dick or creating life from his semen without needing something to fertilise |
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21:40.12 | OluapPlayer | Because of Yu-Gi-Oh I imagine Ra as a big golden bird dude |
21:40.20 | Monet | Ra is Tefnut and Shu's dad *and* mum |
21:40.26 | OluapPlayer | So this leads to me imagining a big golden bird dude sucking his own penis |
21:40.40 | Monet | Ra is normalyl protrayed as a falcon, yeah. |
21:41.18 | Xho | #EGYPT |
21:41.29 | Imperios | That must have hurt |
21:41.53 | Monet | :ancientlogic: |
21:43.17 | Monet | Yeah but he's a god. |
21:43.27 | Monet | It hurt but he'd probably heal fro mit anyway |
21:43.39 | Imperios | So we have Egyptian gods who suck their own dicks and Maya gods who are just dicks |
21:44.10 | Imperios | And then we have the Bible about a god being a dick to those who are dicks to his dicks |
21:44.35 | Monet | He becomes a little less of a dick after Jesus is born |
21:44.40 | Semi_Worm | drom: Looking at that image makes me realise that in reality, tall walkers would just be massive targets for low lying tanks |
21:44.59 | Semi_Worm | They'd only be usaeful in a zergrush against tanks |
21:45.16 | Monet | Semi_Worm: Yeah the walkers' height advantage gives them a lot of other problems |
21:46.05 | Imperios | Why do we always have to worship dicks hur |
21:46.14 | Monet | A tank can still be deadly if its tracks are blown away, but a biped walker that loses one of its legs - if it hasn't been destroyed by the fall - has a pretty limited flexibility with targeting |
21:46.35 | Monet | Imperios: Because those dicks have thep ower to fuck us over. |
21:46.42 | Monet | Just like asshole celebrities i nreal life. |
21:46.59 | Semi_Worm | yeah |
21:47.18 | Semi_Worm | Perhaps the future is to have a walker-track hybrid |
21:47.35 | Semi_Worm | Hm that makes me want to play in Spore |
21:47.45 | Semi_Worm | and build it |
21:49.32 | Monet | imo the only real advantage a walker has is an ability to step over chasms and really rugged terrain |
21:50.06 | Monet | Tactical advantage I mean. |
21:50.27 | Monet | And true it also has a height advantage |
21:50.43 | Monet | But that can also make it an easier target. |
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22:21.30 | Zillafire101 | Hello all. |
22:33.32 | drom | "From Japan with rove" http://i.imgur.com/WmIrwsv.gifv |
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22:46.18 | Hachiman | dumternet |
22:47.45 | OluapPlayer | dum Imp already left |
22:47.58 | Hachiman | fug |
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22:53.56 | Technobliterator | oh, I dunno if he wanted me to unban the university |
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22:59.05 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=821316811276786&pnref=story Angazhar and Santorakh |
23:03.56 | Hachiman | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Chronicle_of_Ire#Scores_Settled hav sum mor |
23:29.37 | Technobliterator | where's random gone anyway |
23:29.39 | Technobliterator | : | |
23:29.49 | Technobliterator | was hoping he'd help with redirect purging |
23:29.59 | OluapPlayer | He's not an active user |
23:34.11 | Xho | gg |
23:43.02 | Tek0516 | I rarely ever saw him. |
23:46.18 | Cyrannian|STO | He's on STO right now |
23:55.35 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/eBaZlpn.jpg ...well that must of been an interesting war. O.o |
23:56.02 | DrodoEmpire | ...Well shit |
23:56.13 | Tek0516 | 40+ years of sieging. |
23:56.37 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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23:57.06 | DrodoEmpire | Whoops |
23:57.08 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |