IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150310

00:00.10DrodoEmpireI sort-of want to try and calmly explain to him how copyright works, and why its important, but I shouldn't even bother.
00:00.23DrodoEmpireIt'd just make the post off-topic and end in a flamewar
00:00.24Wormy_Don't bother
00:00.51TechnoblitzIf you do, I will remove it
00:00.58Wormy_He is acting sensitively
00:01.05DrodoEmpireNotice how I said I wouldn't. :P
00:01.13TechnoblitzYou are free to make the comment on his talk page though
00:01.14MonetI remember learning from QI that had Gilbert and Sullivan considered copyrighting their plays, the two of them would have been a massive hit i nthe States.
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00:01.32DrodoEmpireTech: I dunno, still would cause a needless flame war. I may though.
00:02.06MonetDrodoEMpire: Don't bother. He looks dead-set on the idea that copyeight law is stupid.
00:02.07TechnobliteratorEh, my "will remove" rule doesn't apply outside of that post
00:02.36MonetHe's using redacto ad absurdum to prove his point.
00:03.15DrodoEmpireMonet: Well yeah he's being stupid. Even if I did start stuff on his talk page it'd be for a cheap laugh on my part. :L
00:03.19MonetALthough in King's case, the copyright they have is either for "Candy Crush" or "Candy Crush Saga"
00:03.24DrodoEmpire^
00:03.50DrodoEmpireYeah he's intentionally using stupid examples and playing dumb to prove an already flimsy point
00:04.13Wormy_I do recall Macdonalds trying to sue a small Scottish cafe called Mc Donulds, and lost, which I find hilarious
00:04.27MonetI read somewhere that the reason "Magic: The Gathering" has the second part is because "Magic" was too broad a word ot copyright.
00:04.37DrodoEmpireMonet: Makes sense
00:04.57Wormy_I mean yeah, I think it can get silly like that but for the most part I agree with copyright.  I'd hate to find my work stolen
00:05.16DrodoEmpire^
00:05.57Wormy_Soon I'll be putting my studies and uni projects on a website.  Work that is mine and had a lot of time invested in.  I don't want people claiming its theirs.
00:06.48Technobliteratorlol
00:06.57TechnobliteratorAura hasn't made a single mainspace edit on any wiki he's edited
00:06.58Technobliteratornice
00:07.08DrodoEmpireReally?
00:07.17TechnobliteratorApparently so
00:07.28Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Editcount/AuraMasterNeal
00:08.24Wormy_My site will feature my geological work from Uni of Leicester, my 3D and animation projects I have done (science visualisation and scripting), and some essays on sci-fi, physics and philosophy.  I might even put a game r some stories up there
00:08.37DrodoEmpireWormy: Cool
00:08.40Wormy_*and some
00:09.45Wormy_I have a couple of very simple simulation game ideas
00:11.19MonetArtwork published to DeviantArt that isn't cretive commons appears to have the copyright symbol in it's details
00:11.52MonetAlthough the beautiful thing about DA is your submission is also timestamped.
00:12.01Wormy_yeah
00:12.29MonetI think I have enough artwork on DA to say Uriel's mine.
00:12.29Wormy_Its only minor but some years ago I had my stuff from the wiki ripped by a couple of players on Spore
00:12.38Wormy_Even that hurt
00:13.07Wormy_I asked continiously for the user to credit me thinking "oh, he might be a fan"
00:13.17Wormy_But no
00:14.15Wormy_I don't think you can copyright Spore creations and I respect sharing on the Sporepedia but it is always polite to credit
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00:15.30DrodoEmpireI hear 99c was a bit of a dick. :P
00:15.33MonetIt's my paintings and drawings of Uriel that I think would give me a case of ownership
00:16.14DrodoEmpireMonet: yeah but a proper patent is always great too, if you really want to go to that extent
00:16.15Wormy_Aye, we scared him off with a threat to call the "internet police", he was a child basically
00:16.23DrodoEmpireYeah
00:16.29DrodoEmpirelol "internet police"
00:16.58MonetDrodoEmpire: Most definitely yes
00:17.11Cyrannianhttp://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=advasrch-+tags%24%22cyrannian%22%3Afl-NEWEST - I honestly just got sick of asking people to credit me.
00:17.47DrodoEmpireI know there was that one time I read on Cyrannian's blog where he said "Baisez-vous" and expected no one to have, I dunno, google translate or a basic understanding of French
00:18.10DrodoEmpireThe comment where he said "oh... crap" was pure gold
00:18.37TechnobliteratorI wish people wouldn't upload unlicensed images >.<
00:19.06MonetLuckily according to Google, there is only one Uriel Ultanos :)
00:19.27Wormy_Well, we need  guide for that.  Not even I really understand it
00:20.13Wormy_I have no idea what the best choice of liscensing is for my stuff
00:21.00Wormy_Or whether I even can with material from Spore, Ceslestia and so on (But I always credit and link external stuff and use free use material)
00:21.45Cyrannianhttp://galacticconquestroleplay.wikia.com/wiki/Systems_of_United_Cyrannatarians - It is somewhat flattering though
00:22.45DrodoEmpireThis 99cmoney character seemed like a pleasant character.
00:22.51DrodoEmpireJust looking through old blogs. :P
00:22.55DrodoEmpireHope you all don't mind
00:23.05DrodoEmpire*pleasant person?
00:23.15DrodoEmpireHate using the same word twice in a sentence. >.<
00:23.36Technobliterator99cmoney was lucky he wasn't blocked sooner
00:23.47Wormy_What he did was follow me and Cyrannian onto IRC and several other wikis and youtube, harassing us
00:23.59Wormy_He also created sockpuppets, one caled Tobiaswolf
00:24.04DrodoEmpireAh
00:24.13Wormy_Giving his account my first name
00:24.35Wormy_Somehow he found out my fav animal of the time was wolves too
00:25.02DrodoEmpireThat's pretty creepy, actually.
00:25.04DrodoEmpire:L
00:25.10Wormy_~seen 99cmoney
00:25.14infoboti haven't seen '99cmoney', Wormy_
00:25.18Wormy_~seen Tobiaswolf
00:25.18infobotWormy_: i haven't seen 'tobiaswolf'
00:25.28Cyrannianhttp://galacticconquestroleplay.wikia.com/wiki/United_Republic_of_Cyrannus - hur
00:25.40Wormy_Probably under different nicks back then
00:26.45DrodoEmpireCyrannian: Dank fiction bruh, totally original
00:27.15The_RandomnessObviously waptor is the one stealing ideas here :^)
00:27.33DrodoEmpire^
00:29.32CyrannianNot my place to judge, he did ask my permission IIRC
00:31.42TekDroidWasn't their some guy you found who incorporated Cyrannus into a conspiracy theory?
00:31.50The_Randomnessoh gosh I remember that
00:31.56DrodoEmpireWhat?
00:32.03DrodoEmpireI gotta hear about this...
00:32.28CyrannianNo, that was someone else https://powerofsunflower.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/cyrannus/
00:32.37MonetA quarter of the article seemed like gibberish though.
00:33.14DrodoEmpireYeah
00:33.28DrodoEmpireJust looking over it it seems to be mostly frantic rambling
00:33.49CyrannianA quarter is being very generous. It makes very little sense to me.
00:34.07Wormy_https://powerofsunflower.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/how-living-humans-are-different-from-holographic-humans/
00:34.10TekDroidDrodoEmpire: ...aren't you describing your average conspiracy theorist?
00:34.12Wormy_nutters
00:34.17DrodoEmpireWell, these *are* conspiracy theories. XD
00:34.21DrodoEmpireTek: Yeah. XD
00:34.56Wormy_It looks like that weird Time Cube site
00:35.06DrodoEmpireWormy Monet Cyrannian: Dunno why I didn't yet but I subscribed to your channels
00:35.16DrodoEmpireWormy: ohgod I remember that site
00:35.51MonetDrodoEMpire: It's fine, I haven't uploaded anything to YouTube in absolutely ages.
00:35.56DrodoEmpireAh
00:36.04DrodoEmpireYeah your last videos seem to be a year old
00:36.16DrodoEmpireBetter than me though; I've uploaded exactly nothing. XD
00:36.24CyrannianAre you Dispenser Scoot?
00:36.28Wormy_I'll be uploading more stiuff soon
00:36.29DrodoEmpireYeah. XD
00:36.31TekDroidI think my one Gmail account had a YouTube account addee to it somehow. XD
00:36.40The_RandomnessI've only uploaded a handful of videos of me playing League of Legends >_>
00:36.50Wormy_Timecube site is ded :(
00:36.55TechnobliteratorI haven't uploaded anything :o
00:37.15TekDroidI have nothing to upload even if I did. XD
00:37.27DrodoEmpireDispenser Scoot's also my steam name in case you're interested
00:37.42TechnobliteratorI could upload my l33t Ruby Weapon strategy
00:38.20The_RandomnessI think I have a couple videos that have my sweet, sweet voice in them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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00:38.34The_RandomnessHey
00:38.41DrodoEmpireI'm not good at editing videos, and I dunno what I'd make besides maybe playing a few games with my friends. Even then I'm hardly talkative when I play a game.
00:38.45HachimanWhy is everybody suddenly uploading non-Spore images
00:38.50DrodoEmpireshrugs
00:39.34Wormy_I know its a terrible attutide but I find all this on the wiki amusing#
00:39.51DrodoEmpireWhat on the wiki?
00:40.32Wormy_silliness
00:40.44DrodoEmpireA little vague, but yeah I guess
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00:41.10HachimanHello again
00:41.18MonetHello
00:41.34The_RandomnessHello
00:41.44TechnobliteratorI find lots of things on the wiki funny :o
00:41.48DrodoEmpire^
00:41.59TechnobliteratorI thought we all did
00:42.03DrodoEmpireEh I agree; I love a troll every once and a while for example
00:42.15DrodoEmpireI obviously like fiction. :P
00:42.16Wormy_its my guilty secret
00:42.20DrodoEmpirelol
00:42.45TechnobliteratorDon't we all love trolls :o
00:42.50DrodoEmpire^^^^^^
00:42.58HachimanNo
00:43.10The_RandomnessThe only trolls I like are also dank memers
00:43.13TechnobliteratorCan I share my super, super, SUPER EVIL bad dark secret that will REALLY hurt my rep?
00:43.19DrodoEmpireOh dear
00:43.19HachimanYeah sure
00:43.24Wormy_go ahead
00:43.30The_RandomnessWhat? Do you main Viper or something?
00:43.44Wormy_You are posing as all the trolls after all?
00:43.51TechnobliteratorThe reason I didn't ban Spartian sooner was because he was funny to have around. >.<
00:43.58The_Randomnesslol
00:43.59Wormy_Same
00:44.02DrodoEmpirehugs Tech
00:44.07DrodoEmpireThank you. :3
00:44.08TechnobliteratorAnd yes, that's very pathetic of me
00:44.12DrodoEmpireNah
00:44.38Wormy_I kinda like his antics
00:44.43TechnobliteratorI did think that everyone deserves a second chance
00:44.43DrodoEmpire^
00:44.48Wormy_He will be back again
00:44.53DrodoEmpireWormy: He was funny in his own bumbling way
00:45.04TekDroidkicks DrodoEmpire so hard he gets kicked from Steam
00:45.09TechnobliteratorBut once I gave him a secon chance, I hesitated to reblock
00:45.14DrodoEmpireTek: 3:
00:45.35TechnobliteratorI had to of course decide enough was enough
00:45.43Wormy_On a much darker note, I wasn't that nice to Irskaad
00:45.50Wormy_as I could have been
00:46.07DrodoEmpireI hear a lot of bad things about Irsk. I dunno if I want to really ask much about that though
00:46.15TechnobliteratorHonestly, I don't blame you. He's frustrating at times and easy to lose your temper when talking to.
00:46.16Wormy_I am also the one that advised him to leave
00:46.22Wormy_And he did
00:46.27TechnobliteratorIt's fine, Drodo, ask away
00:46.46DrodoEmpireAlright.
00:47.20TechnobliteratorBut the summary: he was an unfortunate 18-year-old who was both sheltered and aspergic and ended up making a fool of himself at times and coming across as a troll at others
00:47.30DrodoEmpireWell, sorry if this is an overly open-ended question, but why did he leave? What did he do/what was about-
00:47.37Wormy_The thing is I did try to help him loads of times but he couldn't see to help teasing Xho
00:47.46DrodoEmpireAh
00:48.08DrodoEmpireThat basically answers my questions then.
00:48.11Wormy_On the other hand he can be really nice
00:48.24The_RandomnessI didn't think of him as a troll, just hilariously naive
00:48.25TechnobliteratorThe reason he left was a combination of playing Dota and of feeling picked on
00:48.30Wormy_Anyway, I still chat to him on Steam someyimes
00:48.36DrodoEmpireTech: Ah
00:49.00TechnobliteratorFirst he took another break, then he saw on the logs that many people were making inflammatory comments about him and that solidified his fear of returning
00:49.15CyrannianIrsk could be good fun and I do think people were a bit too aggressive toward him.
00:49.38Wormy_Jo:  He said something to Xho that was a sort of final straw.  I had a conversation about why he couldn'r fit in but also why he shouldn't have to fit in and the wiki might not be the best place for him.  Then he agreed and was gone
00:49.39TechnobliteratorWhile you feel sorry for him now, we all did, and that's the reason we put up with him for so long. But some people just got tired of him.
00:49.48The_RandomnessI don't remember how I acted around him, but hopefully I wasn't too hard on him
00:49.59TechnobliteratorWhich did he say?
00:50.09DrodoEmpireTech: I understand, yeah
00:50.37Wormy_I can't remember exactly, but he seemed to agree
00:51.34Monet<PROTECTED>
00:51.41The_RandomnessI only remember nagging
00:51.45The_Randomnesswoops
00:51.50The_RandomnessSilly enter key
00:51.58The_RandomnessI only remember bugging him about some formatting stuff
00:52.07Wormy_Ithink he still reads the logs
00:52.34CyrannianHai Irsk
00:52.35DrodoEmpireRandomness: Funny how a message can change completely from pressing enter just seconds too early. XD
00:52.43DrodoEmpireCyrannian: hur
00:52.46The_Randomness:p
00:53.06Wormy_Anyway I think I could have been more patient.  To me he came off really stubborn and trapped in a bubble which grated against my own aspergicness.  But I could have been more understanding
00:54.25Wormy_If you are reading this Irsk, this convo is kind of kind of whistful
00:55.39TechnobliteratorI don't think he does, I think he's long past caring for any of us
00:55.56Wormy_He out-right told me on Steam
00:56.10Wormy_minds you that was a few months back
00:57.01Wormy_Irsk's fiction was also quite unique and had some comedy
00:57.05DrodoEmpire^
00:57.07Wormy_tragicomedy
00:58.11Wormy_Yes I miss Irsk here
00:58.22Wormy_Anyway, goodnight
00:58.24CyrannianNight guys
00:58.34MonetNight
00:58.38Technobliteratorgnight
01:07.47The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: Out of curiosity, what heroes do you typically play?
01:08.43TechnobliteratorWell, recently I've been playing a lot of Juggernaut, because he's OP atm and I'm evil :p
01:08.53TechnobliteratorBut mostly just agility carries and mid heroes
01:09.02TechnobliteratorI like actually doing stuff
01:09.11The_RandomnessHeh
01:09.27The_RandomnessAt least supports in League are more than ward bots ;)
01:09.49TechnobliteratorThis is true ;_;
01:10.09DrodoEmpiredere, edited profile a bit
01:15.15The_RandomnessI play a lot of what is dota's equivalent of safe lane and support
01:15.38The_Randomness(top)
01:17.00Technobliteratorah, neat
01:17.21TechnobliteratorI know lots of people who play tank
01:17.36The_RandomnessAren't there no true tanks in dota?
01:17.51The_RandomnessOr am I mistaken?
01:17.59Technobliteratoroh no I meant who play tank in League
01:18.01The_Randomnesso
01:18.10TechnobliteratorThere are no tanks in Dota except Axe
01:18.15The_Randomnessoh gosh Axe
01:18.16TechnobliteratorAnd he's OP atm >.<
01:18.31The_Randomness*gets executed* "GOOD DAY"
01:20.19Technobliterator:D
01:25.32The_Randomnessoh gosh, I just got reminded of a dota match I saw where the Ogre Magi support (?) started to snowball and nuked everyone
01:25.37The_RandomnessThose dirty, dirty multicasts
01:26.22TechnobliteratorOgre Magi is fun but random as hell
01:26.31Technobliteratorhe is a support but a very greedy one
01:27.01The_Randomness༼ᕤ༼◕◡◕ ༽༼ ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ <- ogre magi
01:27.03The_Randomnesslele
01:27.14Technobliteratorrofl
01:27.48TechnobliteratorOh, my favourite hero is probably either Anti-Mage, Faceless Void or Windrunner but I've not played them in ages
01:28.04Technobliterator(I haven't played that much dota in ages either mind you)
01:28.16The_RandomnessIsn't Faceless Void the guy that casts Chronosphere on everyone then autos them to death?
01:28.29The_RandomnessI've only played two matches xd
01:28.35Technobliteratoryep
01:28.41TechnobliteratorPretty much
01:29.19Technobliteratorhe was weak as hell for ages due to low stats, then people realised how many buffs he had received and suddenly, TOP PICK
01:29.32The_Randomnessdat ult
01:29.53DrodoEmpireRead that as "dat ulm" at first. I play too much EUIV. XD
01:30.06Technobliteratorlol
01:30.20TechnobliteratorIt's risk though, you can catch your own team in it
01:30.25The_RandomnessYeah
01:30.36The_Randomness>misses ult, stuns own team
01:30.55TechnobliteratorYup
01:32.00The_Randomness>mfw I realize how good I am at this game
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01:35.36Technobliteratorlol
01:35.53Technobliteratorhm, do you know what terrorblade does :o
01:38.51The_RandomnessNo, but I remember seeing pros play him with 1000 clones
01:39.54TechnobliteratorHe was played, then he got overnerfed >.<
01:40.06The_Randomnessrip
01:42.19The_RandomnessWasn't Brewmaster completely busted too?
01:43.21TechnobliteratorBrewmaster has his phases
01:43.57TechnobliteratorThere's some sort of rotation in the meta that's really weird, everyone gets a turn
01:44.30The_Randomnesshuh
01:45.14The_RandomnessFor League the meta emerges out of the cycle of tweaks that rito makes, but it's not a very strict meta
01:46.15TechnobliteratorWell it's not strict in Dota, it just coincidentally leads to unexpected stuff
01:46.33TechnobliteratorIf you told people Sniper and MoM would be OP a few years ago you'd get laughed in your face
01:46.37The_RandomnessYeah, I didn't mean to imply that, but then again, I don't know what it's like in that game
01:46.38TechnobliteratorAnd look what happened
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01:46.57The_RandomnessMoM?
01:47.08TechnobliteratorSuddenly people are crying about Snipers who buy MoM without being called noobs
01:47.12TechnobliteratorMask of Madness
01:47.20The_RandomnessWhat does that item do?
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01:48.04The_RandomnessHello
01:48.11TechnobliteratorPaasively, grants 20% lifesteal, highest of any lifesteal item. When activated, grants a massive attack speed boost but makes you take 25% more damage
01:48.21TechnobliteratorBasically makes you a glass cannon
01:48.30The_RandomnessOh my
01:49.09TechnobliteratorThe item was buffed and is now an efficient farming and fighting tool at a low cost instead of a way to get laughed at when you die in two hits
01:49.40TechnobliteratorAnd due to heroes like Juggernaut having high armor and an ability to become immune to spells, he became OP with it
01:49.59The_RandomnessDo you only take more damage when it's activated?
01:50.30Technobliteratoryep
01:51.03The_Randomnessah
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02:31.07The_RandomnessI'm off for tonight, bye guys
02:38.21Comrade_VinnyHey!
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13:36.17TekDroidI'm supposed to be doing an assignment with chemical bonding but all the questions are single, mostly metallic, elements. O.o
13:38.28dino82_:D
13:41.08dino82_@HachiL New Creckel character: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Creckagni_ShatterhornLarge.png
13:41.17dino82_he is often drunk due to beer and likes to pick a fight :D
13:41.53HachimanHe looks pretty damn epic
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13:44.02HachimanWith a name like "Shatterhorn" I imagine people are pretty intimidated by him hur
13:44.31dino82_@Hachi: I hope so! It is an obvious reference to his right "shattered' horn :D
13:44.38dino82_No idea yet how it happened but still
13:45.41TekDroidlol
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13:53.00dino82_@Hachi: That is some nice history you made: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:N%27hali_Brineheart
13:53.49HachimanThanks Dino, glad you like
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13:57.35CyrannianHello!
13:57.51dino82_ello!
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14:10.28Wormy_hi
14:10.54dino82_hello
14:11.51Tek0516Hello
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14:30.53HachimanNgh where is Oluap ;-;
14:31.34Wormy_Brazil
14:44.42ImpyDroid2So apparently Arab and Persian sources describe Prophet Muhammad as having fair skin, glistening hair, large eyes and long eyelashes
14:45.25ImpyDroid2That is bishi as fuck hur
14:46.03Hachimanhur
14:47.47ImpyDroid2...I am going to get blown up for this comment hur
14:49.36Cyrannianblows up ImpyDroid2 for the sheer lols
14:51.57Wormy_Or beheaded
14:52.30ImpyDroid2Fortunately there aren't as many radical Muslims in Russia
14:52.49ImpyDroid2And most of them are in Caucasus, far away from here
14:54.08TechnobliteratorI'm going to enforce a policy
14:54.39TechnobliteratorAnymore Islamophobia will net you a kick, persistent Islamophobia will net you a 3 day ban from the channel
14:54.50TechnobliteratorThe amount of insensitivity here is ridiculous
14:55.03TechnobliteratorTerrorism is a serious topic
14:55.05ImpyDroid2Technically what I said is not Islamophobia
14:55.29TechnobliteratorIt's a sensitive topic that not everyone is comfortable talking about
14:55.38Wormy_Impy was referring specifically to radicalism but I can see how it can be interpreted
14:55.42ImpyDroid2I just said Muhammad is pretty citing Persian and Arab sources
14:55.47TechnobliteratorI know you meant no harm
14:55.56TechnobliteratorThat's not what I was talkint about
14:56.09Technobliterator"I'm going to get blown up for this"
14:56.16ImpyDroid2Ah this
14:56.16Wormy_Fair enough I agree
14:56.19ImpyDroid2Right
14:56.34HachimanNo fun allowed
14:56.47ImpyDroid2I actually know a few Muslims, they're rather intelligent and nice people actually
14:56.49Technobliterator...Well, alright, I overreacted. But please, can we avoid sensitive topics like these that can so easily offend?
14:57.09ImpyDroid2Except for that annoying Croatian girl that kept shipping me and Alyona
14:57.20HachimanI do not see how mocking terrorists is insensitive
14:57.22TechnobliteratorIt's fine, I'm not going to dwell on it, I was pretty taken aback
14:57.26ImpyDroid2Aisha or what's her hame
14:57.28Wormy_Well it could offend muslim users or potential muslim users.  Or users with strong multicultural sensitivity
14:57.51ImpyDroid2Selma
14:58.01ImpyDroid2Let's just ask Zmr
14:58.07ImpyDroid2He's the local Muslim
14:58.14Wormy_Keep in mind Impy is from Russia *russiaphobic*
14:58.25TechnobliteratorBecause terrorist acts are serious, and because likening them to a certain group of people is wrong
14:58.26ImpyDroid2DEATH TO GAYS AND AMERICANS
14:58.41HachimanYou may as well issue a warning everytime somebody makes a joke about France
14:59.00Wormy_Or when people bash Britain (especially Odell)
14:59.05ImpyDroid2<PROTECTED>
14:59.20Cyranniangrr britain boo
14:59.24HachimanThe World Wars were serious yet we still make Hitler and Nazi jokes
14:59.38TechnobliteratorIf you make a joke comparing French people to radicals in a time where people are genuinely acared of French radicals, yes, I will issue a warning
14:59.59ImpyDroid2I was referring to radicals specifically
15:00.07HachimanAlright alright
15:00.09HachimanNo fun allowed
15:00.10ImpyDroid2The average Muslim won't blow me up hur
15:00.19Wormy_Hang on, we shouldn't make policies based on politics.  Only based on what is actually going to offend
15:00.20ImpyDroid2I stated that myself
15:00.33CyrannianIndeed
15:00.47TechnobliteratorThe policy should be simple
15:01.00Wormy_"I'm going to get blown up for this" I can see how this is quite offensive or seen as Islamophobic, though I don't think Impy meant it that way
15:01.25ImpyDroid2My next post clarified that I referred to radicals
15:02.27HachimanThis is far too PC
15:02.54Wormy_It is PC, I won't debate that
15:03.00ImpyDroid2Let's just wait for Zmr and ask him for actual Muslim opinion
15:03.03Wormy_And I normally hate PC'ness
15:03.38Wormy_But this is a wiki which is supposed to be for everyone
15:03.47HachimanImpyDroid2: Why cater
15:03.50TechnobliteratorIf you discuss a sensitive topic people are not comfortable talking about, you get asked to stop
15:03.54TechnobliteratorAnd from there, you get a warning, a kick and/or a ban
15:03.56TechnobliteratorBut Imp, do not feel bad, your comment wasn't nearly as bad as it could have been
15:03.58TechnobliteratorI overreacted
15:04.23HachimanI am not going to cater to just a single person who may or may not get offended at a topic
15:04.49Wormy_Jo is right, though rather than enforcing policies, stopping a conversation if people (like Jo in this case) get upset is perfectly acceptable
15:04.52ImpyDroid2Hachiman: Well if anyone decides what is offensive or not is the actual target of the comment, so let's stop talkkng about this because this does not matter hr
15:05.16ImpyDroid2And by God we made durka burka jokes when he was online and he only commented that burkas are dum
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15:06.05HachimanWow I can't believe you're actually prohibiting us to make terrorist jokes
15:06.27ImpyDroid2Who are you referring too?
15:06.30ImpyDroid2*to
15:06.33HachimanJo
15:06.38ImpyDroid2rite
15:07.16ImpyDroid2Anyway I remember I once took offence when Monet called the Donbass rebels "extremists"
15:07.27Wormy_I've changed my mind, I wouldn't agree to policies.  But if one or more people get sensitive then conversation should stop.
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15:07.41CyrannianJokes which actively seek to offend Muslims or any religious/cultural group should be dealt with, but you would need to be very sensitive to take offense to jokes criticising extremists.
15:08.02Wormy_Agreed
15:08.03HachimanExactly
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15:08.15Hachimanmuh waifu
15:08.20Hachiman~hug OluapWorker
15:08.20infobotACTION hugs OluapWorker
15:08.46OluapWorkerStupid shit work, stupid shit day
15:09.02HachimanWhat happened?
15:09.04Wormy_A few years ago the UK government when "multi-cultural" nuts and it actually caused a lot of social damage, dividing people even more.
15:09.26OluapWorkerI couldn't use a computer all morning
15:10.11HachimanAww
15:10.47CyrannianHai Oluap
15:10.56Wormy_The council of one city didn't put up Xmas decorations because they thought it would offend the Jewish community. This made them feel even more marginalised, and demanded they return the decorations
15:11.16OluapWorkerI knew today was gonna be a bad day but it's being several times worse than i thought
15:11.27OluapWorkerDon't expect me to be online this afternoon
15:11.52dino82_hello oluap
15:18.40Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1970689_1059204964100514_388539782164438698_n.jpg?oh=ee3168896a56e44a72905de60a74e845&oe=557A6043
15:20.00Wormy_Wombats will break your face with their arse bones
15:20.36HachimanI didn't plan to have a wombat sit on my face but alright I will take your word for it
15:21.08CyrannianWormy the Wombat-Fetishist
15:21.34Wormy_well, I read if they get chased by predators they can dead stop smashing the face of their pursuer
15:23.52Technobliteratorsigh
15:24.04TechnobliteratorThe jokes about extremists are not what offended me
15:24.23TechnobliteratorThe jokes offending a group of people and alluding to a sensitive topic offended me
15:27.39WormbatI understand how Impy's remark can easily be interpreted as Islamophobic
15:28.10Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Right_Behind_You#Chapter_05:_.2807_AQF_-_month_02.29 - New chapter featuring the beginnings of Voro's Crimson Meritocracy!
15:30.13HachimanOoh nice
15:36.09Cyrannianbrb
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15:41.08odellHello.
15:43.55Tek0516Hello
15:46.49odellIf Nomatarians were big prankers. This would their biggest play on unsuspectable. http://i.imgur.com/0irnptw.webm
15:48.13Tek0516lol
15:50.24odellThere is more, but I find it less amausing. http://i.imgur.com/L86k2zU.gif
15:51.53WormbatDone that one though not to cars
15:57.15Wormbathttp://imgur.com/gallery/HW6FD2M
15:57.22WormbatBrits say "cars" not autos lol
16:00.37Wormbathttp://imgur.com/gallery/fmBHYOY
16:00.41dino82_in our country we say autos as well :d
16:07.46odellWormbat: The brits should see the rest of the world.
16:08.14odellAnd oh. Nuke Austrailia until they switch over to right-hand driving.
16:08.24WormbatWe don't, we don't see past our own nose after we snorted all over it
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16:09.31odellHai
16:09.53CyrannianHello
16:10.14odellWormbat: I had the joke of Britian calling Irland as "more like Irrelevantland"
16:12.29Wormbatdoesn't know whether to lol with Cyrannian around
16:12.39odellThe punchline is, Irland is nothing but a foolish imagination dening that it is still a part of the Great Britain.
16:13.26odellNo offense Cyrannian.
16:13.31CyrannianGreat Britain is the name of the island which includes England, Scotland and Wales, not the country.
16:15.11Wormbat^
16:15.43odellThe empire den
16:16.01WormbatThe geographical name was Great Britain and Hibernia" collectively
16:16.38CyrannianYou probably mean the British Isles, of which Ireland is a member.
16:17.17WormbatThe UK also covers Northern Ireland
16:17.25WormbatThats the sourece of confusion
16:17.29WormbatThough I must say
16:17.40WormbatWe don't talk or hear much about Northern Ireland
16:18.18odellWell. UK has got a quite handful amount of patriotism and usually insult the Irish.
16:18.35odellSpecifically through neighbor-jokes.
16:18.36WormbatThe older generations did
16:18.38CyrannianMaybe in the 1970s, not anymore I'd say.
16:19.16WormbatMy Grandad is Irish and recalls signs saying "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish" on Bed and Breakfast doors
16:19.23WormbatIrish at the bottom
16:19.59CyrannianIndeed, there would be signs for jobs in both Britain and America claiming that "No Irish Need Apply"
16:20.23OluapWorkerthey just jelly cus they not as lucky
16:21.48Tek0516Wasn't the UK known as Great Britain at one point though?
16:24.16CyrannianThe UK as an entity was created as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in 1800, which united the Kingdom of Ireland with the Kingdom of Great Britain
16:25.32Tek0516Right, I was just looking at that.
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16:26.08Cyrannian~hug OluapWorker
16:26.08infobotACTION hugs OluapWorker
16:26.18OluapWorker_hsss
16:26.39Cyrannianfeeeeel my love
16:31.16Hachiman<3
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16:33.08JepardiHi
16:36.16Cyrannianhttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Journey_to_Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens - This'll be interesting
16:43.15dino82_oh!
16:44.12CyrannianAs long as there's a New Republic and no Yuuzhan Vong, I'll be a happy fan!
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16:57.13dino82_\haha ok
16:57.24dino82_don't know about the Vong, but it would be aweosme to see one movie style
17:04.58ImpyDroid2Cyrannian: Yeah I think they are going to go away from all EU plotlines
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17:05.09ImpyDroid2What do you have against the Vong BTW?
17:06.38CyrannianNothing really, I just didn't think they were very Star Wars-y. They seemed pretty generic
17:08.07ImpyDroid2Agree
17:09.29CyrannianI wasn't a big fan of the post-RotJ EU, though it did have great moments like the Thrawn Trilogy but it wasn't great when it came to cohesion
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17:28.08ImpyDroid2EU went overboard IMO
17:28.42Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
17:28.55ImpyDroid2Resurrected Palpatine that looks like Putin, has hyperspace cannons and makes black holes with his mind, for example
17:28.58ImpyDroid2Very cool
17:29.06ImpyDroid2But a bit too much
17:30.48Cyrannianhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ireland-just-accidentally-legalised-ecstasy-ketamine-and-crystal-meth-10098612.html?cmpid=facebook-post - facepalm
17:34.54HachimanOh wow
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17:36.00ImpyDroid2Cyrannian: Time to get stoned before the new law passes
17:36.10Hachiman<3
17:36.17Cyrannianway ahead of u
17:36.18OluapWorkerTop ugh
17:36.52ImpyDroid2http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-language-version-of-same-sex-vote-text-changed-1.2133577#.VP8XaPh7k0g.twitter this
17:38.47CyrannianEcstasy legalised and heterosexual marriage outlawed in the same day
17:43.59Hachiman"A puffer fish on the pull would design a crater decorated with ridges, seashells and tracks meticulously crafted over nine days. Most of these craters, despite the work that is placed into them, are rejected, but if they aren't then the female will lay her eggs in the center to be fertilised and protected by the male, who will look after the infan
17:43.59Hachimants for six days."
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17:48.22OluapWorkerhxo
17:48.49Xhoyae
17:50.14Hachimanspoon
17:51.08XhoSo the Queen was in Southampton today
17:51.23Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11025261_835253179880671_6430070664942223233_o.jpg The face she makes is similar to the one I make when I'm out in town
17:51.44Wormbatpolol
17:51.47Wormbat*olol
17:51.51Cyrannianlol
18:01.35XhoOluapWorker: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11041825_1091853070831106_1399823271093679634_n.jpg?oh=188b73f14ae6b2b7d1cf8182683402b9&oe=5576D744&__gda__=1434892155_fb8f50fb4f839e07166ec9b434725730 Dolgan
18:01.52XhoThe joke is that Gillette is a shaving cream
18:02.02OluapWorker100% Dolgan would be just "I will cut you"
18:02.19Wormy_And that is their slogan
18:02.34Wormy_minus the cutting part which doesn't need advertising
18:03.00Wormy_*doesn't shave*
18:03.07Wormy_I;m beardy
18:03.44OluapWorkerMake your viking ancestors proud by having a huge majestic beard
18:04.30CyrannianIt's also great for scaring away do-gooders
18:05.39ImperiosYou should also braid your beard
18:06.04XhoBeards are exceptionally hard to get right
18:06.11XhoI'm of a mind that only certain faces can get beards right
18:06.18XhoWhich is about 7% of all men
18:11.42XhoI killed the conversation didn't I
18:12.17OluapWorkerkillr
18:12.20OluapWorkercode up saas
18:12.53CyrannianI was going to comment about my distaste for beards, but decided against it
18:13.38OluapWorkerNo one cares for your pleb taste
18:13.58XhoWell
18:14.00XhoPeople go for beards
18:14.02Cyrannianshup u skank
18:14.08XhoEnd up with a retarded fuzz on their face
18:14.42CyrannianAye, that's what I mean.
18:15.13OluapWorkerdats not a beard
18:15.17XhoExactly
18:15.22OluapWorkerI'm talking about huge puffy dwarf beards
18:15.26XhoA vast majority of people can't grow beards
18:19.58Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10978544_325037097686942_2585548976621767332_n.png?oh=307153750f9101982cf64cd8615642cf&oe=55849C9D
18:20.40XhoQuite the substitute
18:29.53OluapWorkerwant.png
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18:33.22Catfacegives Cyrannian stuff.
18:34.07CyrannianHai
18:35.40CatfaceHello.
18:36.15CatfaceCyrannian: If you have time I'd like to talk about fiction stuff here in a few minutes. If you're busy that's fine, we'll catch up later.
18:36.53CyrannianI'm in the middle of making a page right now, but perhaps sometime later this week
18:37.44CatfaceOkay. I'll just stay here in my corner, carving your name into my leg.
18:39.00Cyrannian<3
18:45.05HachimanTechnobliterator: https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11067907_825917690811167_8702492268900731239_n.jpg?oh=10cd4619e139f97553b7059e825e2da4&oe=55769A4E
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19:43.59The_RandomnessHello everyone
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19:48.45AdmiralPandahi all
19:53.26Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Valian_Empire/Culture I just realised something
19:53.38Imperios>Volanti born with malformations are shunned, as are cripples and amputees (on the plus side, this has led to the complete disappearance of genetic diseases, and phenomena such as homosexuality are nonexistent
19:53.45Imperios>on the plus side
19:53.50Imperios>phenomena such as homosexuality are nonexistent
19:53.52ImperiosMushrum u
19:53.53Imperiosu
19:54.11Imperios...Strangely enough I always thought he was bisexual myself
19:55.30AdmiralPandaNote to self: impale Mushrum on something next time I see him
19:55.32AdmiralPandasomething painful
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20:00.39GhelaeHello.
20:01.07ImperiosGhelae: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Valian_Empire/Culture I just found out one strange bit on Mush's page
20:01.28Imperios>Volanti born with malformations are shunned, as are cripples and amputees (on the plus side, this has led to the complete disappearance of genetic diseases, and phenomena such as homosexuality are nonexistent
20:01.29Imperios>on the plus side
20:01.29Imperios>phenomena such as homosexuality are nonexistent
20:01.55OfficerJackalErr... :/
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20:02.39GhelaeWell, that could be interpreted somewhat negatively.
20:03.37GhelaeGiving him the benefit of the doubt, it could be that the "plus side" only refers to genetic diseases, with homosexuality being a different statement.
20:03.53GhelaeFrom what I remember of Mush, it was just asexuality that scared him.
20:03.59Wormy_awayYeah
20:04.31Wormy_awayDidn't he leave for a while after that conversation?
20:05.02GhelaeI can't remember, but it wouldn't surprise me.
20:05.13AdmiralPandawhat I have a problem with is the idea that shunning the malformed would result in homosexuality not occurring
20:05.49AdmiralPandathat's not how shit works bro, unless it actually doesn't occur in their psyche it's going to happen regardless
20:09.35ImperiosHomosexuality is a complex thing
20:09.38ImperiosVery malleable
20:09.41Imperios*Sexuality in general
20:10.05ImperiosMake people of the same sex spend a lot of time together, in prison for example
20:10.11Imperios...and ta-dah!
20:10.26ImperiosRussian prisons prove this
20:12.29GhelaeThings could be different for Mush's fictional species, because fiction, but I'm sure I'd be giving him too much credit if I let my thoughts continue down that route.
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20:19.34JepardiHi
20:20.01PandaMechanicusso someone made an extensive mod for ARMA 3 turning it into a HALO military sim
20:32.38ImpyDroid2" The Big Bang. Why is it named the "Big Bang" when it's not an explosion? Well, how did your life begin?"
21:02.31odellHello.
21:03.14odellGoddamnit, Impy left.
21:03.21odellAnyway. I was about to show him this. http://i.imgur.com/4xeFzcS.png
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21:04.04HachimanHai you two
21:04.07The_RandomnessHello everyone
21:04.35MonetHello
21:06.15odellHai
21:06.21odellMonet: Skylines is really great.
21:06.45MonetI plan ot play it after I get some work done
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21:12.12odellHeck, the Beslan school hostage crisis is really terrifying.
21:25.35Wormy_awayTime for Vsauce
21:27.18TechnobliteratorHachiman, I rofl'd
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21:34.37HachimanHai again
21:34.41MonetHello
21:35.34GhelaeHello.
21:36.46HachimanSo I was surprised to find out that Pathfinder has stats for things like cybernetic implants, sci-fi armour and weaponry, futuristic pharmaceuticals, etc
21:37.00HachimanFor what reason I have no idea but it's pretty damn neat
21:37.12The_Randomness:o
21:37.57PandaMechanicusWhere did you find that exactly?
21:38.29HachimanThere's a tab on the Paizo website sidebar called "Technology Guide"
21:38.53HachimanAnd includes stuff like new class archetypes, a technomancer class, equipment and hazards
21:39.19PandaMechanicusah yeah that, for a moment I thought you were going to link to that bloody homebrew site
21:39.30PandaMechanicusyeah some pretty cool stuff in there
21:39.41HachimanShame that none of us will probably use it hur
21:40.33MonetSteampunk includes cybernetics though....
21:41.02PandaMechanicusyeah but we're avoiding extra content because it's Hachi's first time
21:41.26PandaMechanicusnot a good idea to load up a virgin with more than they can handle, y'know
21:41.43HachimanI have an Easter holiday coming up so I should be able to run a session then
21:41.45MonetAh, that kind of "not gonna use it"
21:42.09HachimanAlso because Panda doesn't like to blend magic and technology from what he told me hur
21:42.17HachimanWhich is why he refuses to play Shadowrun
21:42.24PandaMechanicustis the height of dum
21:43.20Hachimany
21:43.41PandaMechanicuscus they do the same thing
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22:22.00Monethttp://www.pocketplane.net/volothamp/images/faerunlarge.jpg here's a geographical map
22:22.32MonetIf you don't like garden gnomes, stay out of Lantan
22:25.58MonetI think the only other area on Toril where there is a lot of details is Evermeet. But since it's a pre-collapse Atlantis filled with elves it's probably boring.
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23:09.00HachimanHai
23:09.10HachimanI burned my tongue on some chocolate coffee
23:09.28HachimanCannot understand why people like their coffee so hot
23:11.47Wormy_awayIts the sugar and/or milk that sticks to the flesh
23:12.10Wormy_awayand burns
23:12.56HachimanDoes that feeling eventually go away after repeatedly drinking coffee for a long amount of time?
23:13.43Wormy_awayI don't know, I let my coffee and chocolate cool a bit lol
23:14.07Wormy_awayI always burn my mouth on Soup
23:14.37Wormy_awaySometimes so badly, skin comes off the roof of the mouth
23:14.50Wormy_awayThat might be install for you next morning I'm afraid
23:15.25HachimanShit
23:15.26Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11025187_10153188779553945_2542140649479525903_n.png?oh=614860b2644ee3290c9bd072d37bbba7&oe=55BD32A0&__gda__=1434647060_117196ec77f0a25a30a45906562647ed
23:15.59Wormy_awayCool
23:18.50Wormy_awaybbl
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23:38.29DrodoEmpireHi everyone
23:51.33HachimanHai

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