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| 00:33.52 | Wormy_ | Monet: Photino Birds! http://phys.org/news/2015-02-physicists-theory-differences-sun-due.html |
| 00:33.54 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 00:41.38 | Suppy_ | Nearly threw my back doing power cleans today |
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| 01:22.59 | Mecharic | Evening |
| 01:23.14 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 01:23.28 | Mecharic | Anyone here play Banished? |
| 01:26.26 | DrodoEmpire | Nope |
| 01:26.53 | Mecharic | It's actually pretty fun, if a little pointless. It reminds me of Dwarf Fortress lol |
| 01:33.47 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 01:35.33 | Monet | It's alright |
| 01:39.49 | Mecharic | I'm using an expansion-mod, which makes it decidely more complex. |
| 01:52.13 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator: What was going on here? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Cyrannus_War/Year_One?diff=prev&oldid=593324 |
| 02:13.30 | Wormy_ | Sorry Jo, you will probably not see at least until tomorrow, I forgot how late it is |
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| 02:56.16 | TekDroid | Wow, exploration missions in EUIV are powerful. |
| 02:58.11 | Wormy_ | just learned about these http://www.snowjapan.com/japan-ski-resorts/zao-onsen |
| 02:58.33 | Wormy_ | juhyoy |
| 02:58.55 | Wormy_ | juhyo |
| 03:01.39 | Wormy_ | Just had Xenomorph-level acid come up |
| 03:01.54 | Wormy_ | No wonder I keep getting a sore throat |
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| 03:55.34 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
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| 10:50.11 | Hachiman | Hai |
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| 11:06.05 | OluapWorker | Hi |
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| 11:10.51 | Hachiman | Hai Imp |
| 11:24.29 | Imperios | Hai Oluap, hai Panda, hai Hachi |
| 11:24.35 | Imperios | Hai all |
| 11:30.23 | Hachiman | So in the Advanced Class Guide for Pathfinder, there is a 6th Level Druid Spell called "Whip of Ants" that does exactly what it says on the tin |
| 11:30.27 | Hachiman | Make a whip made of ants |
| 11:30.46 | Hachiman | Army ants, to be precise |
| 11:31.11 | Hachiman | And there is a 5th Level equivalent which makes a whip out of venomous centipedes |
| 11:38.45 | Imperios | Holy fucking shit |
| 11:38.57 | Imperios | That is not fun |
| 11:39.27 | Hachiman | That is practically abuse and torture on part of everyone hur |
| 12:05.57 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5B5FRcbdiA Have I shown you this already? |
| 12:06.31 | Hachiman | You have not |
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| 12:12.18 | Hachiman | It's pretty impressive |
| 12:12.23 | Hachiman | I do have a soft spot for folk metal |
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| 12:35.11 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: I was thinking about a Viking vs Samurai battle scenario. The Samurai's sword gets stuck in the Viking's shield make of thick wood, cloth and glue |
| 12:35.29 | Hachiman | Deadliest Warrior actually tested this I believe |
| 12:35.48 | Wormy_ | The Viking batters his head before he can draw another weapon and is finished with a Viking sword |
| 12:35.52 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 12:36.10 | Hachiman | I am unsure how Viking weaponry would affect Samurai armour |
| 12:36.16 | Wormy_ | The Samurai won but it was close |
| 12:36.58 | OluapWorker | ILL SEE YEW IN VAHALLA |
| 12:36.59 | Wormy_ | The Samurai did have more advanced metallurgy I suppose |
| 12:37.05 | LeagueofPanda | wrong |
| 12:37.08 | LeagueofPanda | utterly wrong |
| 12:37.20 | LeagueofPanda | the vikings had superior steel sooner |
| 12:37.31 | LeagueofPanda | they bought it from the middle east, but they had the better steel |
| 12:37.40 | Wormy_ | I see |
| 12:37.50 | OluapWorker | This reminds me of that game "Pirates, Vikings & Knights 2" |
| 12:38.06 | OluapWorker | I'd have played a lot more of that if I could find serves with less than 200 ping |
| 12:38.24 | LeagueofPanda | here's the broad summary: a samurai would get screwed over in all situations except where they could employ their horse archery |
| 12:39.27 | OluapWorker | Also because that game's development is as slow as Half-Life 3 |
| 12:39.30 | LeagueofPanda | their armour would not be able to properly protect against broadaxe strikes, though their superior archery at range and mobility iwth horses would give them an advantage |
| 12:39.52 | OluapWorker | They announced a new Knight class was coming soon over a year ago |
| 12:42.05 | LeagueofPanda | also, I should point out that basically everythign Deadliest Warrior does is utter BS because they don't know what they're talking about |
| 12:42.22 | Wormy_ | Panda: How would Samurai fare using the naginata? |
| 12:42.32 | Wormy_ | Since its longer range |
| 12:42.35 | odell | LeagueofPanda: Every History Channel shows ever. |
| 12:43.03 | Wormy_ | Yeah I watched DW for fun but I don't think its realistic enough |
| 12:43.15 | LeagueofPanda | Wormy_: I factored in the naginata, again you have the problem of the viking is going to bum-rush you, get in closer than your effective range and murder you |
| 12:43.50 | Wormy_ | Hm, yeah I see that now |
| 12:44.48 | Hachiman | One must remember that Samurai were range and mobility-oriented soldiers |
| 12:44.56 | Hachiman | Not ones intended to bum rush like Vikings |
| 12:45.15 | LeagueofPanda | nor were they intended to recieve bum rushes |
| 12:45.20 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 12:45.32 | Wormy_ | Hm, I should note the Samurai lost to the Spartan because of the Spartan's massive shield |
| 12:45.52 | LeagueofPanda | the moment you add a shield to the equation most asians start losing tbh |
| 12:45.59 | Wormy_ | I think carrying a shield and bum rushing would be the Viking's advantage |
| 12:46.13 | LeagueofPanda | although I'd appoint the samurai's loss to any greek more to the solid bronze armour employed |
| 12:46.42 | LeagueofPanda | the samurai gets exactly four attacks he can make, both upper arms and both upper legs |
| 12:49.03 | odell | Shields do indeed change everything. |
| 12:49.15 | odell | If you meet a warrior with one, you are fucked. |
| 12:49.30 | odell | Even if you are a professional cold-blooded killer. |
| 12:49.55 | LeagueofPanda | not entirely, there are whole medieval fighting styles designed to fuck over a guy with a shield |
| 12:50.03 | OluapWorker | Should`ve rolled |
| 12:50.04 | LeagueofPanda | it's just asian culture never developed the shield |
| 12:50.26 | LeagueofPanda | and so if any ancient asian warrior were to meet an enemy with a shield, they would be at a disadvantage |
| 12:50.54 | LeagueofPanda | for example you could use the greek method of ramming the other guy's shield with your shield, forcing him down and stabbing over the top |
| 12:50.59 | Wormy_ | Hm, that begs the question why the shield wasn't much in use in Asia |
| 12:51.14 | LeagueofPanda | or you could use the european technique of beating the shield to the side and thrusting in the gap |
| 12:51.18 | Wormy_ | I mean, the Greeks were in contact with India and trade with China |
| 12:51.33 | LeagueofPanda | Wormy_: formation vs mobility warfare |
| 12:51.49 | LeagueofPanda | a shield wasn't really of use in the asian way of war |
| 12:52.43 | LeagueofPanda | best method for defeating a shield though was the Roman; namely throw a soft-tip spear into it so it gets weighed down and becomes useless |
| 12:54.08 | Vincent20100 | test |
| 12:57.39 | odell | There is an other way to make a shield useless. Deform the shield using a heavy blunt object. Plus with a chance that it would make the shield user fall over by surprise and the force. But the downside is it's being a slow way to do it. |
| 12:58.19 | Wormy_ | That did happen in the DW fight |
| 12:58.59 | Wormy_ | I think they avoided the Samui using his sword against the Viking in close combat (with the Viking having a shield) on purpose |
| 12:59.24 | Wormy_ | But as Panda said the Samurai would not be used to the idea of shields or how to combat them |
| 13:01.11 | odell | Wooden shields will split into useless shreds. Depending on the metal, the metal shields will either crack apart. Or take the shape where it's impartical for use as a shield. |
| 13:02.57 | odell | brb gotta go down to the grocery store |
| 13:09.40 | ImpyDroid | About samurai |
| 13:09.53 | ImpyDroid | Remember they fought on horseback with bows as well |
| 13:10.19 | ImpyDroid | So using their normal weaponry, they would probably have more mobility and range, but in melee combat, yeah probably not |
| 13:14.56 | Wormy_ | Someone modded Skyrim to show a battle between Vikings and Samuai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opnYY7L0GWc |
| 13:15.41 | Wormy_ | The Samurai won in open battle but when the Vikings swarmed together and closed them off the majority of Vikings survived |
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| 13:43.41 | Hachiman | ~test |
| 13:43.41 | infobot | hmm... test is not funny |
| 13:43.45 | Hachiman | rite |
| 13:44.34 | odell | back |
| 13:45.05 | OluapWorker | go test urself u shite |
| 13:46.52 | odell | Wormy_: https://twitter.com/gitlost |
| 13:47.27 | Wormy_ | "it's working but still bullshit" |
| 13:49.46 | odell | That's me when finally fixing a bug in a program made from 100+ source files |
| 13:52.11 | odell | You might find this funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD2v1rLRToI |
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| 13:59.02 | OluapWorker | spu |
| 13:59.34 | Xho | u |
| 14:02.32 | OluapWorker | code up sauce nao |
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| 14:06.16 | Hachiman | Dumb |
| 14:06.30 | Hachiman | I have to move all my stuff about today because I have a new bed arriving in a few days |
| 14:26.08 | odell | A wide bed? |
| 14:27.37 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 14:27.47 | Hachiman | For the past two years I have been sleeping on a fold-out bed |
| 14:37.07 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1622064_468033943343942_6167561238502925897_n.jpg?oh=89534cd0c7672289d51db48ed9c43d93&oe=558E200F |
| 14:37.49 | OluapWorker | olol |
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| 14:48.19 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 14:51.17 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 14:52.15 | Monet | Hello |
| 14:52.55 | Hachiman | Hai |
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| 16:07.41 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 16:07.48 | OluapPlayer | ~cuddle Hachiman |
| 16:07.48 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
| 16:08.06 | Hachiman | Wormy_ Monet: I wonder what it would be like if Stephen Baxter or another great sci-fi author took on sci-fi/horror |
| 16:09.08 | Monet | That could go either way, since in a way the Xeelee Sequence is already a cosmic horror story |
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| 16:10.38 | Monet | That could go either way, since in a way the Xeelee Sequence is already a cosmic horror story |
| 16:10.59 | Hachiman | Yeah I suppose it is |
| 16:11.02 | Hachiman | dum kiwiirc having problems today |
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| 16:17.52 | Hachiman | Goddamn fucking IRC |
| 16:17.55 | Hachiman | Or internet |
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| 16:27.43 | Wormy_ | It would be interesting to see Baxter write other kinds of genre |
| 16:28.01 | Wormy_ | He did create Mammoth's Journey |
| 16:28.21 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 16:28.22 | Hachiman | I do wanna read the Mammoth Trilogy |
| 16:39.36 | Hachiman | I am sure there is a lot of horror to be had out of hard/semi-hard sci-fi |
| 16:46.36 | Imperios | https://2ch.hk/po/src/8052248/14251397859040.jpg Whosoever created this is... honestly I do not know how to call people like this |
| 16:50.04 | Imperios | (this picture is supposed to be pro-EU BTW) |
| 16:50.59 | OluapPlayer | Ngh i'm starving for fiction |
| 16:51.46 | Vincent20100 | I hardly see how it is pro-Eu... |
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| 16:53.01 | Monet | Seems like pro-Russia to me |
| 16:53.47 | Vincent20100 | Except if you are in some fucked up revolutionnary-mind where this pictures is showing how much more guts the youth of the EU have when it comes mto revolting... |
| 16:54.12 | Vincent20100 | But that's the only way I could come to such a conclusion... |
| 16:54.13 | Hachiman | Ngh I just had to bin a load of stuff my ex had sent me over the last few years |
| 16:54.21 | Hachiman | These feels are making me just somewhat angry |
| 16:55.17 | Hachiman | In brighter news I found £3.45 |
| 16:55.30 | Monet | Free money is always good |
| 16:56.53 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10994261_325030041020981_1353951340891040370_n.jpg?oh=96c8ad80548694cda8abcb61bb45fd30&oe=55882EB3&__gda__=1434622522_8c878d6ea12d9a66ed54b6607e6f76a3 |
| 16:57.25 | Vincent20100 | Pineapples are the "tree" |
| 16:57.38 | Vincent20100 | Even though Palm "Trees" aren't trees... |
| 16:59.18 | Imperios | Monet: No, it is actually pro-EU; the last country on the picture was originally Ukraine, but that was before Crimea |
| 16:59.30 | Imperios | I saw these pics during the Euromaidan |
| 16:59.42 | Vincent20100 | Everytime I tell this to someone, they go full retard and don,t beleive it, but it is true, Palm trees aren't trees, but gigantic herbs |
| 17:00.20 | Imperios | The basic logic was basically: "Europeans show civil disobedience by burning shit down; Ukrainians are European; ergo we must burn shit down" |
| 17:00.25 | Imperios | Now this |
| 17:01.09 | Vincent20100 | Well, in Quebec too during the 2012 revolt we burned shits down ^^ |
| 17:01.56 | Wormy_ | I'm watching David Icke and he said something I think is quite obvious and smart http://youtu.be/Pd1RS5SdCOg?t=15m |
| 17:02.48 | Hachiman | That the Royal Family really does consist of reptilians? |
| 17:02.55 | Wormy_ | If only people did invest as much care as they did in things that matter |
| 17:03.21 | Monet | HAchiman: For once it's not him spouting stuff like a loon |
| 17:03.30 | Wormy_ | Not he hasn't mentioned Reptiles yet, just State slavery |
| 17:03.39 | Monet | I agree there's probably a little too much seriousness to stuff like Football |
| 17:04.14 | Wormy_ | Its because cultural programming demands we care about things that don't matter |
| 17:04.23 | Vincent20100 | Exactly |
| 17:04.53 | Wormy_ | Meanwhile cancer researchers struggle to find funding and everybody knows but do nothing about |
| 17:05.08 | Monet | It's shameful that people have historically been beaten up, abused and even killed because they support a different team to the one all the locals support. |
| 17:05.34 | Vincent20100 | We had a similar discussion the other day in the bus, saying how people in the past were shy to talk about sexuality, but at ease when talking philosophy, while today, it'S the exact reverse, and that we called that a "Liberation" |
| 17:06.22 | Wormy_ | yes |
| 17:10.53 | Wormy_ | He is quoting Mark Twain a lot |
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| 17:11.15 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 17:11.49 | Wormy_ | I don't think there is a NWO or secret society behind the seams |
| 17:11.57 | Wormy_ | The truth is, nobody is in control |
| 17:12.15 | Wormy_ | And nobody knows what the hell to do about our runaway society |
| 17:12.39 | Wormy_ | In the 20th century we handed over our economies to machines |
| 17:12.50 | Wormy_ | We hoped they would reach equilibrium |
| 17:13.30 | Wormy_ | And create a non-hierarchical society. Instead it created more instability and cemented power to capitalists |
| 17:13.50 | Wormy_ | But even they can't stop inherant instability |
| 17:14.41 | Wormy_ | The politicians have tried to sell us dreams and nightmares |
| 17:14.55 | Wormy_ | But our trust in them is being lost |
| 17:15.09 | DarcySupremest | what a conversation to walk in on |
| 17:16.12 | Wormy_ | These are good documentaries that explore this view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_of_Loving_Grace_(TV_series) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_(film) |
| 17:16.44 | DarcySupremest | Ah, I'm a big fan of Adam Curtis |
| 17:17.00 | DarcySupremest | do watch The Power of Nightmares, his stuff is gold |
| 17:17.53 | Wormy_ | ^ |
| 17:18.30 | DarcySupremest | Oh wow, EUIV ultimate is on sale for 11 bucks |
| 17:19.05 | DarcySupremest | I really have like no excuse to buy it now do I |
| 17:19.05 | Imperios | Hachiman Monet: http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD-warhammer-40000-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80-395483.jpeg |
| 17:19.21 | Monet | Dat face... |
| 17:19.21 | Wormy_ | If you want my opinion I don't actually know who to vote for this year. Our three main parties are so close to each other they might as well be the same. |
| 17:19.30 | Imperios | http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/full/%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BD-%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD-%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0-831202.jpeg Oh there are more |
| 17:19.34 | Hachiman | Putin as an Ogryn? |
| 17:19.54 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Those are cool |
| 17:20.03 | Hachiman | That Obama one is awesome |
| 17:20.09 | Monet | Wormy_: I don't care if it is a wasted vote, I'm planning to vote Greens. |
| 17:20.21 | Wormy_ | I think I will vote Greens |
| 17:20.32 | DarcySupremest | I'd vote greens here in the colonys but, I really like guns |
| 17:20.36 | DarcySupremest | And they really don' |
| 17:20.40 | Wormy_ | Just to help it rise above UKIP |
| 17:20.47 | DarcySupremest | They also really hate nuclear power |
| 17:21.05 | Wormy_ | And GM crops |
| 17:21.09 | DarcySupremest | ^ |
| 17:21.19 | DarcySupremest | Like I get that they're the lesser of three evils |
| 17:21.20 | Hachiman | All political parties are dum |
| 17:21.27 | DarcySupremest | That is also true |
| 17:21.57 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: We Brits are known for our comparative lack of enthusiasm towards guns. |
| 17:22.01 | Imperios | Agree |
| 17:22.03 | Imperios | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/710/811/12e.png |
| 17:22.28 | Wormy_ | The politician's behavior this year is awful. And they expect young people to understand what is going on and vote them |
| 17:22.31 | Monet | So a polticial party in the UK not liking guns is nothing new |
| 17:22.32 | DarcySupremest | LiThats fine |
| 17:23.00 | DarcySupremest | We have right now some of the fairest and most well written firearms laws on the planet here |
| 17:23.20 | DarcySupremest | Just enough liency that self defense and all that Yankee Doodle Dandy stuff is possible |
| 17:23.51 | DarcySupremest | Just strict enough that only smart people can get weapons |
| 17:25.04 | DarcySupremest | That and I want Airsoft here |
| 17:25.11 | DarcySupremest | Greens would never allow that |
| 17:26.53 | Monet | THe other alternative is the xenophobic UKIP. |
| 17:27.07 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10922424_10206419376552076_3484152787939197649_n.jpg?oh=06acdce5ca892d2c0896c1f202303edd&oe=557F399F&__gda__=1434885626_eee432bb743128a23637f22e3df6ec1b |
| 17:27.24 | Hachiman | Best alternative is the God-Emperor of Mankind, Vladimir Putin |
| 17:27.31 | Wormy_ | Apparentely not thinking like the status quo is now a mental disorder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder |
| 17:27.46 | Hachiman | Accept him as your deity and ruler and all shall be fine |
| 17:28.19 | DarcySupremest | But putin I like freedom of *blam* |
| 17:28.50 | DarcySupremest | DSM V is sketchy as fuck Wormy_ |
| 17:29.27 | Wormy_ | It seems to be all personality based |
| 17:29.30 | DarcySupremest | I understand that its a Psychological major's job to understand it, not mine but still |
| 17:29.59 | DarcySupremest | Homosexuality was only removed as a mental disorder as of DSM 3 or something |
| 17:31.00 | Wormy_ | Bereavement was only just removed from DSM V |
| 17:31.21 | DarcySupremest | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.30 | DarcySupremest | Now thats a little bit more F'd up |
| 17:31.34 | DarcySupremest | I'm |
| 17:32.26 | DarcySupremest | God damn it, sorry, my enter button is huge and my backspace key is tiny |
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| 17:37.31 | Hachiman | Hai |
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| 17:51.38 | ImpyDroid | DarcySupremest: In Russia you have freedom from the Evil West |
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| 17:56.00 | Monet | hi |
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| 18:23.39 | ImpyDroid | Guys can you help me with a math problem |
| 18:24.19 | ImpyDroid | x^3 does count as o(x^2) when x is moving towards 0, right? |
| 18:25.15 | Hachiman | Google is your friend |
| 18:25.21 | ImpyDroid | http://m.quickmeme.com/img/21/213294592f816fbedde34ac35402780d4764008ec68ea79f17dd29d6a60a81bd.jpg |
| 18:25.33 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Google does not answer questions like that |
| 18:25.40 | Ghelae | Consider the definition of X = o(Y). |
| 18:26.06 | Ghelae | lim X/Y = 0 |
| 18:26.33 | Ghelae | lim x^3/x^2 = lim x = 0. So yes. |
| 18:26.37 | ImpyDroid | rite |
| 18:26.42 | Monet | Imppydroid: SPongebob logic |
| 18:26.52 | Ghelae | Or another way of thinking about is that x^3 is always a lot smaller than x^2 when x is small. |
| 18:27.32 | Ghelae | Which is the same thing but in English. |
| 18:29.16 | ImpyDroid | rite |
| 18:29.31 | ImpyDroid | ...oh wait I found the miscalculation, thanks anyway |
| 18:40.02 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: What do you think to this http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/ ? |
| 18:42.08 | Wormy_ | I see gold and bluish white |
| 18:42.26 | Hachiman | The dress is black and blue |
| 18:42.57 | Hachiman | There are other pictures of that same dress and it is indeed black and blue |
| 18:43.04 | ImpyDroid | Light brown and white |
| 18:43.25 | ImpyDroid | *bluish-white |
| 18:43.46 | Wormy_ | I think its an elritch abomination. |
| 18:43.57 | Wormy_ | *eldritch |
| 18:44.42 | ImpyDroid | The Colour from Outer Space? |
| 18:45.01 | ImpyDroid | *Out of Space |
| 18:45.15 | Wormy_ | Kinda like that yeah, or something from Welcome to Nightvale |
| 18:46.14 | Xho | I see all of those pictures differently |
| 18:46.45 | Xho | But mostly I see it as blue/gold |
| 18:47.11 | Xho | Blue being very light and the gold being almost brown-ish |
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| 18:53.17 | Ghelae | I've found it depends slightly on the size of the picture, but I typically see gold and bluish white. |
| 18:53.33 | Ghelae | For smaller pictures, the brightly lit background is less distracting and I see the blue as being a lot more blue. |
| 18:53.57 | Ghelae | It's not an eldritch abomination, though. What it is is bad photography. |
| 18:54.23 | DarcySupremest | Yeah first time I saw it was on my shitty phone screen |
| 18:54.28 | DarcySupremest | I saw Blue and yellow |
| 18:54.54 | Ghelae | When the photo's large enough, it does look plain white and gold to me; my brain simply interprets it as being a white-and-gold dress in shade under blue light. |
| 18:54.55 | DarcySupremest | On PC it appears gold and white |
| 18:55.58 | Ghelae | The correct interpretation is a blue-and-black dress in bright yellowish lighting, but different people see it in different ways. And a lot of people don't understand that different people see it in different ways, which is why the whole thing went viral. |
| 18:57.46 | DarcySupremest | Sounds like most mainstream memes |
| 18:57.48 | DarcySupremest | Nothing new |
| 18:58.12 | Ghelae | Exactly. |
| 18:58.46 | Ghelae | Well, at least the "nothing new" part. |
| 19:16.57 | ImpyDroid | Blue and yellow |
| 19:17.01 | ImpyDroid | Ukradress hur |
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| 19:44.04 | Hachiman | Hm? |
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| 19:44.36 | LeagueofPanda | hi u |
| 19:44.40 | The_Randomness | ey |
| 19:44.46 | ImpyDroid | Remember our yesterday discussion about steampunk? |
| 19:44.56 | Hachiman | Aye I do |
| 19:45.10 | ImpyDroid | It made me think what kind of architecture could Sovereign elves and Imperial humans have |
| 19:45.31 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:45.46 | ImpyDroid | Considering humans were elven slaves I imagine their architectural styles could be somewhat similar |
| 19:46.06 | Hachiman | Yeah that'd make sense |
| 19:46.25 | Hachiman | I am imagining some major human cities could have been built on top of elven architecture |
| 19:46.33 | Hachiman | Or converted from |
| 19:46.40 | ImpyDroid | Aye, especially the Imperial Center |
| 19:46.58 | ImpyDroid | I think Dryadali buildings should look Byzantine-esque |
| 19:47.19 | ImpyDroid | https://postmediavancouversun.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/istanbul-hagia-sophia.jpg Like this |
| 19:48.01 | Hachiman | They do look pretty nice |
| 19:50.58 | Hachiman | ~test |
| 19:50.58 | infobot | methinks test is not funny |
| 19:51.01 | Hachiman | rite |
| 19:52.17 | Ghelae | So would you base Imperial architecture off something related to or descended from Byzantine architecture? |
| 19:55.27 | Ghelae | Perhaps Islamic architecture>or Russian architecture? |
| 19:55.39 | ImpyDroid | Islamic for Alhassal makes sense |
| 19:55.56 | ImpyDroid | ...Russian architecture for Mannazia then? |
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| 19:56.32 | ImpyDroid | Wouldn't make much sense, besides traditional Russian architecture is rather bland |
| 19:56.41 | Ghelae | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Sant_Vasily_cathedral_in_Moscow.JPG |
| 19:57.15 | Hachiman | Eh I wouldn't imagine Russian for Mannazia |
| 19:57.26 | ImpyDroid | Remember that I am from Saint-Petersburg and thus see all Moscow architecture as inferior |
| 19:57.37 | Hachiman | It's architecture I suppose is intended to be Gothic maybe |
| 19:57.39 | ImpyDroid | Gothic would probably make more sense |
| 19:58.37 | Ghelae | To be fair, that is the least bland thing on the Russian architecture page. But yeah, something medieval-European might suit them better. |
| 19:58.45 | Hachiman | Mannazians despise elves more than others so I suppose it would make sense for them to outright tear down elven architecture |
| 19:58.55 | Hachiman | Rather than building from it |
| 19:59.06 | ImpyDroid | True, I actually imagine something Skyrim-esque |
| 19:59.32 | Hachiman | Yeah Mannazians are supposed to be Norse/Germanic/Celtic etc |
| 19:59.36 | Hachiman | A warrior nation |
| 19:59.50 | Ghelae | Gothic fits quite will then. |
| 19:59.53 | Ghelae | well* |
| 20:00.32 | ImpyDroid | Probably the larger cities would be Gothic while smaller settlements would use simpler, more practical styles |
| 20:00.40 | ImpyDroid | More Dark Ages-esque |
| 20:00.46 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 20:00.53 | Ghelae | Something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Romanesque_art_and_architecture ? |
| 20:01.40 | Hachiman | I'd say that makes a good comparison yeah |
| 20:01.53 | ImpyDroid | Or Norse probably |
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| 20:02.04 | ImpyDroid | http://www.freeimages.com/assets/182915/1829143242/various-norse-buildings-2-793570-m.jpg like this |
| 20:02.06 | ImpyDroid | Hi Xho |
| 20:02.07 | Ghelae | Then Romanesque architecture makes a bridge between pre-Romanesque and Gothic. |
| 20:03.00 | OluapPlayer | This has got to be the worst week I've had in ages |
| 20:03.06 | OluapPlayer | I'm so bored I wish I was at work |
| 20:03.37 | ImpyDroid | I imagine Alhassans having hugeass citadels made of sandstone, with farmlands and stuff inside them |
| 20:03.51 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://tf2freakshow.wikia.com/wiki/Death best page ever |
| 20:04.03 | ImpyDroid | As well as complex irrigation systems inside, with aqueducts connecting the citadels |
| 20:04.50 | Ghelae | Norse architecture might fit the most elf-hating regions, as it's even less like classical architecture than Gothic. |
| 20:05.53 | Hachiman | I imagine those Mannazians that use Norse architecture would be the Mannazian equivalent to rednecks or something |
| 20:05.55 | Tek0516 | The Russian President in House of Cards is so blatantly based on Putin it's almost hilarious. XD |
| 20:06.17 | ImpyDroid | Ave Putin |
| 20:07.02 | ImpyDroid | http://rs1img.memecdn.com/emperor-putin_fb_2893639.jpg |
| 20:09.31 | Tek0516 | http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9972273.ece/alternates/w620/hoc3.JPG He's even ex-KGB. XD Seems to be a bunch of personality similarities but still a few differences. |
| 20:10.59 | ImpyDroid | The guy on the left? |
| 20:11.21 | ImpyDroid | The guy on the right looks more like Poroshenko |
| 20:12.41 | Tek0516 | They make it fairly obvious who he's supposed to be in the show. |
| 20:20.10 | ImpyDroid | So, who on the picture is based on Putin? |
| 20:20.27 | Hachiman | One on the left |
| 20:20.43 | ImpyDroid | Rite |
| 20:23.02 | Tek0516 | Right is the main character. |
| 20:26.16 | ImpyDroid | As I said he looks like the Ukrainian president a bit |
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| 20:27.13 | Xho | Hachiman: One thing I must say about Xenoverse; it likes to punish you |
| 20:27.20 | Hachiman | Oh? |
| 20:27.30 | Xho | Yeah I can't get past Frieza atm |
| 20:27.42 | Hachiman | dat meens ur a filthy monkey |
| 20:27.52 | Xho | Pretty much, I'm playing as a Saiyan anyway |
| 20:28.12 | Xho | On the other hand I pre-ordered it so I got SSJ 4 Vegeta |
| 20:28.26 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 20:28.49 | Xho | Doing the side missions you can play as any character you've unlocked so I just go as Vegeta |
| 20:29.14 | Xho | SSJ 4 Vegeta's attributes and health are super high so it does make everything easier |
| 20:29.31 | Hachiman | Aye I suppose that makes sense |
| 20:29.40 | Xho | The game is fairly balanced though |
| 20:29.55 | Xho | I lost concentration whilst fighting the Ginyu Force as SSJ 4 Vegeta and I got wasted |
| 20:30.21 | Xho | Overall the game isn't too hard, but Frieza is a pain |
| 20:30.35 | Xho | I need my character to level up a bit further so I can actually beat him |
| 20:30.48 | Xho | Frieza's level 22 and my character is currently level 20 |
| 20:30.49 | Xho | Or 21 |
| 20:31.09 | Xho | I dunno what the max level is |
| 20:31.13 | Xho | I'm thinking 80 |
| 20:31.16 | Hachiman | You got Ginyu'd son |
| 20:31.26 | Hachiman | So how far into the DBZ plot does it go? |
| 20:31.35 | Xho | Goes right up to Battle of the Gods |
| 20:31.46 | Hachiman | Ooh nice |
| 20:31.51 | Xho | There's DLC that's going to add GT to it as well |
| 20:31.52 | Hachiman | That's a lot of battles then |
| 20:31.55 | Xho | Yeah |
| 20:31.56 | Hachiman | Ech GT |
| 20:32.17 | Xho | They might add all the movie plots as well |
| 20:32.26 | Xho | But yeah the main story goes right up to the end |
| 20:32.38 | Hachiman | Needs Broly fights hur |
| 20:32.44 | Xho | pls no |
| 20:32.52 | Hachiman | KAKAROT |
| 20:33.06 | Xho | Your main character can be quite diverse in moves |
| 20:33.32 | Xho | Though my main pitfall against Frieza is that you have special 'passive' abilities called Z-Souls |
| 20:34.00 | Xho | I was using Vegeta's which basically powers up your Galick Gun move by a lot but at a cost of your health per move |
| 20:34.11 | Xho | I didn't notice it and I got destroyed |
| 20:34.35 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:34.39 | Xho | You buy all the skills and can unlock them in missions as well |
| 20:35.09 | Xho | Galick Gun is probably more useful than the Kamehameha since it's a faster move |
| 20:35.17 | Xho | Not as powerful |
| 20:35.29 | Xho | Frieza is a sod though |
| 20:35.44 | Tek0516 | ImpyDroid: On a side note for you Poroshenko comment, it doesn't help the character's first name is Petrov. :P |
| 20:35.59 | ImpyDroid | >first name |
| 20:36.04 | Xho | He decides to unleash his Ultimate at no warning |
| 20:36.04 | ImpyDroid | >Petrov |
| 20:36.14 | ImpyDroid | What? |
| 20:36.27 | Tek0516 | Sorry, think it's his last name actually. |
| 20:36.35 | ImpyDroid | hur |
| 20:37.34 | Tek0516 | Don't know if they've even said his first name. XD |
| 20:38.34 | Tek0516 | Apparently his full name is "Viktor Petrov" |
| 20:38.42 | Xho | His 1st Form Ultimate does a lot more damage but his Final Form Ultimate is very difficult to escape |
| 20:39.09 | Xho | Actually his 1st Form Ultimate is an instant kill with a level 20 character |
| 20:39.14 | Hachiman | Oh crap |
| 20:39.30 | Xho | His Final Form Ultimate does reasonable damage but is unlikely to kill |
| 20:39.36 | Xho | It homes in on you instead |
| 20:39.59 | Hachiman | So his 1st Form is stronger than his Final Form then? |
| 20:40.07 | Xho | Ultimate-wise |
| 20:40.18 | Xho | His Final Form has much more health and blow-for-blow does more damage |
| 20:40.35 | Xho | You do have allies in the battle for you |
| 20:40.44 | Xho | First round you have Kid Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta |
| 20:40.51 | Xho | They will more than likely die in under a minute |
| 20:41.14 | Xho | Then you get Piccolo in the second round, he lasts a little longer |
| 20:41.19 | Xho | Then Goku in the third |
| 20:41.30 | Xho | I haven't actually passed the third round yet |
| 20:41.34 | Hachiman | Goku as SSJ? |
| 20:41.37 | Xho | And the mission resets if you fail the third round |
| 20:41.40 | Xho | No base |
| 20:44.12 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
| 20:46.57 | DarcySupremest | I just captured a carrier with like a handful of salvage corvettes in homeworld |
| 20:47.12 | DarcySupremest | I'm so happy this game rewards you for thinking |
| 21:12.08 | Wormy_ | Ghelae: Thinking about it, the dress isn't changing colour but its contrast in response to lighting does. Some people see lighting in warmer shades, and others in cooler. My eyes are like this, left eye is warmer. And it does appear to be a slight difference |
| 21:13.39 | Wormy_ | That explains why its not just a web thing |
| 21:14.57 | Ghelae | Well, the actual colours of the image are light blue and orange-brown. Then the colour perceived depends on how your brain interprets the lighting and hence how it would affect the appearance of the colours. |
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| 22:11.11 | ImpyDroid | Any particularily romantic movies coming lately? |
| 22:15.19 | Monet | Apart from another Cinderella film? |
| 22:17.53 | Monet | Not that I can think of |
| 22:18.34 | LeagueofPanda | ImpyDroid: Thinking of taking your waifu to the cinema? |
| 22:18.44 | ImpyDroid | Ya |
| 22:20.44 | LeagueofPanda | my inner biologist is telling me to tell you to take her to a horror film, but while the underlying biological principles make sense, the idea itself is really weird |
| 22:20.56 | LeagueofPanda | so just go for a light-hearted comedy or something |
| 22:22.08 | Monet | For some reason I feel the desire to see a modern cinema-screen productioin of Flowers for ALgernon |
| 22:28.24 | Monet | It's been adapted for TV, radio and theatres many times but cinema only once |
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| 22:32.04 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 22:32.14 | Monet | Hello |
| 22:32.20 | Hachiman | I would like to see an anime or such of the Xeelee Sequence |
| 22:32.58 | Hachiman | Much of Baxter's stuff I feel is appropriate for media beyond the books |
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| 23:03.45 | Monet | Random consideration |
| 23:04.03 | Monet | I've mentioned before that the Imperium has viceroies wh act as a mini-paragon |
| 23:05.09 | Hachiman | Hm? |
| 23:05.22 | Monet | Well I'm also considering the Imperium establishes "galactic senates" (or Galactic Councils of Praetors) for it's extra-Andromeda territories. |
| 23:05.24 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: I too feel the Xeeleeverse would make a great anime. CGI won't do it I think, anime could add a very alien touch |
| 23:05.40 | Wormy_ | Short animes too |
| 23:05.56 | Wormy_ | Since much of the Xeeleeverse is through short stories |
| 23:06.30 | DarcySupremest | Monet: for Imperium Territories or just the region as a whole? |
| 23:06.35 | Monet | This would effectively divide up the Grand Senate into various councils - one for each galaxy they have territories in. |
| 23:06.43 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: For Imperium territories |
| 23:08.41 | Monet | Calling each one a "galactic senate" sounds megalomaniacal or pretentious I know but that could be the point as I've developed the Imperium to put emphasis on spreading it's influence on galactic scales. Objectively though, they're effectively localised Praetoral Caouncils. |
| 23:09.02 | Monet | ALong with other components such as the science and bureaucratic councils |
| 23:11.14 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Sci-fi art from the Second Golden age (70's when hard SF was most popular) also fits the Xeeleeverse. The book covers seem to follow that style. |
| 23:11.32 | Monet | Operationally these galactic senates will merely be parts of the Grand Senate to that apply to a specific galaxy. |
| 23:11.41 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuMYV6e18VQ |
| 23:12.01 | Wormy_ | 2nd Golden Age inspires my human ship designs |
| 23:12.55 | Wormy_ | I still think it looks futuristic and a whole lot nicer than "Everything is an Ipod" which dominates everything today |
| 23:13.07 | Monet | Memberes of say Mirus' councils are still part of the five divisions of the Grand Senate: The Homeland, provincial, military, science and bureaucratic councils and can still hold meetings with everyone else on Alcanti. |
| 23:14.01 | DarcySupremest | So its sort of like a colony's own parliment? Like with the british empire? |
| 23:14.10 | Monet | Prettymuch. |
| 23:14.25 | DarcySupremest | Yeah I can see that as a better way |
| 23:14.31 | DarcySupremest | halts them pesky rebellion types |
| 23:15.03 | Monet | The modern Imperium is becoming more and more like six large empires under one umbrella leader. |
| 23:15.31 | DarcySupremest | Would these proxy senates have some sort of autonomy of their regions? |
| 23:15.34 | Hachiman | inb4 a Rome scenario happens and it falls apart under its own weight |
| 23:15.38 | DarcySupremest | Like their own laws and such? |
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| 23:16.24 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: That's largely the point of the galactic councils |
| 23:17.20 | DarcySupremest | Well yeah but its difficult enough to keep earthly colonys with autonomous parliments under imperial control |
| 23:17.41 | Monet | But said empires happen to have been founded by the Imperium. So the diversity comes from how they each develop |
| 23:18.01 | DarcySupremest | so I wonder if you will be dealing with juicy democratic attempts for independance. |
| 23:18.14 | Wormy_ | The irony is that "Everything was an Ipod" was cool and original. It originates from 2001 Space Odyssey and was based on the space shuttle. |
| 23:18.52 | Monet | Wormy_: To the point where Samsung tried to sue the producers for using their ttablet design |
| 23:18.54 | Wormy_ | Apple used it and now every manufacturer does. And of course sci-fi art ever since cyberpunk |
| 23:20.00 | Wormy_ | I feel movies which do not build their own futuristic design or art are not faithfully doing science fiction |
| 23:20.05 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: Each of the viceroies hold immense power. But the guys on each galactic council are also holding seats in the Grand Senate itself. |
| 23:20.25 | Monet | It's more an attempt to localise bureauocracy |
| 23:20.27 | Wormy_ | They are letting down the film |
| 23:20.57 | Hachiman | Modern sci-fi films have largely began to cease being innovative |
| 23:21.02 | Monet | ALthough Imperial provinces (alien empires that have agreed to join the Imperiu mas members) still retain everything about their identity |
| 23:21.18 | Wormy_ | Fortunately most science fiction novels have better book cover designers |
| 23:21.56 | Wormy_ | There are a few exceptions |
| 23:22.32 | Wormy_ | The films Pi and The Fountain were very thoughtful and even had their own design |
| 23:22.43 | Tek0516 | I wonder if the "everything is an ipod" will be a trend in the future like it is in media, or if future humans will treat it as a forgotten trend of turn of the 21st century humanity. |
| 23:22.54 | Wormy_ | (not Life of Pi if you don't what I mean) |
| 23:22.55 | DarcySupremest | Alright yeah, makes sense |
| 23:23.18 | Wormy_ | Tek: I predict it will zeerust within decades |
| 23:23.34 | Monet | Given it's size and use of an aristocracy, the Imperium kinda has to be somewhat decentralised. |
| 23:24.30 | Wormy_ | Okay it wasn't a true sci-fi but it involved mathematics and computers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_%28film%29 |
| 23:25.05 | Wormy_ | Hachi: You might like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountain |
| 23:25.06 | Monet | I guess the simplest way of explaining the Galactic Senate idea is it gives a means for a galaxy's praetors to convene without needing to be joined by every other praetor in the Imeprium - even with holocommunication being the norm, you're stil ltaking time out of their schedules for a matter that applies only to your galaxy |
| 23:25.12 | Tek0516 | Wormy: I agree, it will probably go down that path. |
| 23:26.17 | Wormy_ | the ship was quite cool http://i2.cdnds.net/13/35/618x347/movies-the-fountain-future-ship.jpg |
| 23:28.31 | Monet | Good thing in the original Latin, "Imperium" = Power to Command and "Imperator" = Commander |
| 23:29.12 | Monet | SInce the Imeprium now is more of a hegemony thana traditional empire. |
| 23:29.54 | *** join/#sporewiki GD12 (43b4106f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.180.16.111) |
| 23:30.03 | GD12 | hi |
| 23:30.05 | Monet | Hello |
| 23:30.05 | Hachiman | Seems like quite a trippy film |
| 23:30.10 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 23:30.52 | Wormy_ | I quite enjoyed Moon but it took a lot from Space Odyssey, Sunshine had |
| 23:31.07 | Wormy_ | Sunshine's story was trying to be harder SF |
| 23:32.14 | Hachiman | I am not fond of Sunshine hur |
| 23:33.27 | Wormy_ | Here is a scene from Pi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3FvtMSUeLk |
| 23:35.06 | Wormy_ | Or this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XobjkWljkXw |
| 23:35.19 | Monet | The prefix "galactic" is merely part of the Imperium's ego, like how most of the Imperium likes to see each of it's viceroies as masters of the Imperium in their specific galaxies and that *technically* a viceroy has complete authority over all Imperial matters in their assaigned galaxy. |
| 23:36.28 | DarcySupremest | Oj |
| 23:36.32 | DarcySupremest | oh* |
| 23:36.49 | DarcySupremest | So they operate as sort of a collective of independant states collaborating |
| 23:37.03 | DarcySupremest | Independant* to and extent |
| 23:37.06 | Monet | Sort of. |
| 23:37.31 | Monet | Each viceroy happens to be a Draconis hand-picked by the Paragon from one of the Imperium's grand-houses |
| 23:39.27 | DarcySupremest | So I assume that the imperium has annexed alien states? |
| 23:39.34 | DarcySupremest | for whatever reason |
| 23:39.50 | GD12 | The Imperium has most definitely done that lol |
| 23:39.56 | GD12 | They are one of Andromeda's powerhouses |
| 23:40.34 | DarcySupremest | Well the internet is bad for sarcasm... |
| 23:40.37 | DarcySupremest | poeslaw |
| 23:40.52 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium#Vassh.27Drakonida both diplomatically and... http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Society#Sub-Citizens not so diplomatically... |
| 23:41.00 | GD12 | lol |
| 23:42.05 | Monet | Although o nthe plus side at least being a sub-citizen assures you a good (depends I guess) and healthy life. |
| 23:42.23 | GD12 | I think for most it would imply a better standard of living than before |
| 23:42.29 | GD12 | Given that the DI is mostly post-scarcity iirc |
| 23:42.46 | DarcySupremest | regardless, the Imperium only elects Draconis to seats? Or are aliens allowed into goverment affairs at that level? |
| 23:42.50 | Wormy_ | I suppose as far as tquality of life for slaves goes, Draconis > DCP > Tyranny (best to worst) |
| 23:42.58 | GD12 | aye lol |
| 23:43.01 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: Depends on the seat. |
| 23:43.28 | Wormy_ | The DCP put their most hated and conquered foes into living hells] |
| 23:43.28 | GD12 | With the Tyranny basically being fuck it and trapping slaves within their bodies and powering those bodies with their pain (biodrones) |
| 23:43.33 | GD12 | Aye |
| 23:43.37 | GD12 | If those foes are not exterminated |
| 23:43.37 | Monet | Praetors, solans and aedans for non-provincial DI territories = Draconis 70% of the time |
| 23:43.41 | DarcySupremest | Yeah well I imagine that you wouldn't elect xenos to like major seats |
| 23:43.47 | DarcySupremest | Worm_ Dark Eldar |
| 23:43.52 | DarcySupremest | Wormy_ even |
| 23:44.10 | Monet | Annexed provinces the Imperium leaves their internal politics alone |
| 23:44.29 | DarcySupremest | as long as they get them tasty tithes though? |
| 23:44.39 | Monet | Of course |
| 23:44.41 | DarcySupremest | Mmm Delicious colonial tithes |
| 23:45.08 | Wormy_ | Though the DCP may use slaves as cannon fodder like drones |
| 23:45.15 | Monet | The only time the Imperium ever does intervene is if they feel certain a planet's economy and society is most-definitely is going down the shitter. |
| 23:46.09 | Wormy_ | Maybe to distract lines of fire |
| 23:46.31 | DarcySupremest | Besides the dedicated handfuls of worlds made specifically for manufacture and agriculture, colony's in The Arcanium are let to meet taxes however they want a vast majority of the time |
| 23:46.42 | Wormy_ | Using slave zergrush |
| 23:46.50 | Wormy_ | Some fired by cannon |
| 23:46.54 | Monet | But it helps that out of the three, the DI doesn't use sub-citizen status as a means ot abuse your existence. |
| 23:48.25 | Wormy_ | Yes DI sub-citizens have better quality of life than we do |
| 23:48.30 | Monet | Unless you happen to be a a captured political figure of an enemy nation, in which case you are denied any chance of full citizenship, any political actions discovered by the Royal Intelligence Agency are made public and you are forced to live with your probably-by-now-pissed-off-at-you countrymen. |
| 23:48.32 | Wormy_ | Or something like that |
| 23:49.22 | Wormy_ | GD12: We ought to have a battle between DCP and Tyranny slaves |
| 23:49.31 | GD12 | Aye |
| 23:49.46 | GD12 | I've been thinking of putting DCP slave zergrush in AD |
| 23:49.57 | GD12 | Its definitely planned and its happening once i get on spring break |
| 23:50.17 | Wormy_ | cool |
| 23:50.26 | Monet | Wormy_: They do, yeah. But thep oint I was trying to make was that unlike the Tyranny and DCP, the Imperial govenrment doesn't actively try to make the lives of their slaes a living hell. |
| 23:51.01 | Wormy_ | indeed |
| 23:51.43 | DarcySupremest | Silly Monet slaves aren't people |
| 23:51.48 | DarcySupremest | who cares what they think |
| 23:52.39 | Monet | Politicans will get some degree of punishment but many Talon officials see leaving a politician vunerable, isolated from their assets and in the middle of a mob that likely didn't actually want a war with the DI as punishment enough. |
| 23:53.38 | DarcySupremest | Who needs slaves when your entire population is slaves |
| 23:53.44 | DarcySupremest | Good ol' totalitarianism |
| 23:54.10 | Monet | Apart form them, even soldiers (apart from high-ranking officers) get the same treatment as civilian PoWs since a lot of the time they were simply doing as they were told. |
| 23:54.11 | GD12 | if your entire population is salves |
| 23:54.15 | GD12 | You don't really have thinkers |
| 23:54.18 | GD12 | *leaders |
| 23:54.20 | GD12 | *and leaders |
| 23:55.13 | Monet | DarcySupremacist: THe Imperium relies heavily on making itself at least -look- like it's a great place ot live |
| 23:56.17 | Monet | As Wormy stated, when being a *slave* grants a better quality of life than any first world Earth nation, can it really that bad? |
| 23:56.52 | DarcySupremest | Well to be fair the Arcanium outside of the Hive Worlds isn't that bad a place to live, most worlds are fairly good and fair enough, they just smell faintly of Hitler and Stalin |
| 23:58.53 | Monet | I wonder...we've had "the American Dream", we're starting to get "the European Dream", I'm guessing the visions of utopia in the 1st gig alternate between "The Cooperative Dream", "The Cyrannian Dream" and "The Draconid Dream". |
| 23:59.38 | Monet | Depending on who i nthe 1st gig you talk to |
| 23:59.38 | GD12 | Aye |
