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00:09.33Knight_AlienHi
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00:55.48AdmiralPandahi all
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02:10.38DrodoEmpireHi everyone, I'm just popping by to say I'll go on hiatus in case nobody checks my userpage. :P
02:11.14DrodoEmpireI've had thoughts of outright leaving as I'm sort of at a loss as to what I can do fictionwise anymore, but chances are I won't.
02:12.05DrodoEmpireAnyway, thanks for reading. Bye everyone.
03:14.57Vincent20100"With temperatures dipping to 13 degrees below..." It was -19 this very morning -_-
03:16.34TekDroidWe've had ~-40 with windchill all week.
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03:17.15Vincent20100Windchill don't count
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08:21.42HachimanHai
08:39.53ImpyDroidHai
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09:29.35ImpyDroidhttps://2ch.hk/po/src/7935713/14243344062680.jpg Holy shit this might be propaganda but that looks awesome
09:30.11ImpyDroidAlso Angrybirds is actually a bird here
09:38.03Liquid_InkWhat's the pig and the mouse hanging off it?
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09:38.36Liquid_Ink[19:38] <Liquid_Ink> What's the pig and the mouse hanging off it?
09:40.10HachimanNot sure what the mouse represents
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10:09.58GhelaeHello.
10:12.59HachimanHai
10:13.04OluapWorkerhai
10:16.35Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10993442_325019277688724_6813186998836435143_n.jpg?oh=04e9c8f03f9a063e4d22838e6783d51c&oe=55498A18&__gda__=1431574130_e9ed93bce459a98b8d144c50ab49e6f3
10:21.30ImpyDroid2Liquid_Ink: Mouse = Latvia
10:23.01Liquid_InkAnd the pig?
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11:06.08AdmiralPandahi all
11:06.11GhelaeHello.
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11:06.37GhelaeHello.
11:06.41XhoHi
11:06.52XhoSo I went off to the surgery today to get another blood test
11:07.01XhoTurns out I have to do it in the path lab at the hospital
11:07.25HachimanHai
11:07.26Hachimanbrb
11:16.01HachimanBack
11:16.10Xhowack
11:17.33XhoI'm gonna go redo Agent Alpha's page now
11:17.41XhoMake a new model for him as well
11:20.19ImpyDroidHachiman Xho: http://youtu.be/HS4yL7AQ_Xs Crux's corruption
11:22.01Hachiman"Trying to sleep here..." - Ysera the Dreamer
11:22.03HachimanGenius
11:22.36XhoI DON'T GET IT LOL
11:26.22ImpyDroidXho: Madness-inducing whispers = Facebook spamming
11:27.19Xhorite
11:31.35OluapWorkerspu
11:32.28Xhou
11:32.32OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tales_of_Champions#Xacutus:_The_Final_Preparations I wrote a thing
11:34.09XhoI saw
11:34.35Xho" And so, the infernal march of the Vulcanus Horde began as Xacutus created a bridge from Akriarion Island to Abyssus' southern gates, a maddened grin locked on the pyromancer's face as he prepared for the coming war."    dat some long bridge
11:35.11OluapWorkerYep
11:35.59OluapWorkerI imagine he took him at least 2 months to arrive to the main continent
11:36.13OluapWorker2 months of non-stop marching
11:36.33XhoKalarah just looks out at the bridge going "hurry da fuq up"
11:39.47HachimanI can imagine a lot of orcs dying from exhaustion
11:41.05HachimanThat or Xacutus is at the back of his army and he's just yelling at the guys in front "ARE WE THERE YET"
11:41.38OluapWorkerXacutus was at the front
11:41.45OluapWorkerHe was making the bridge as they marched
11:41.54Hachimanrite
11:42.33HachimanSpending two months marching nonstop with Xacutus must be bad for the psyche
11:42.45OluapWorkerIt`s more than certain that some forces died on the way, either from exhaustion or from falling into the seas, but Xacutus can just make more of most of his forces
11:43.50OluapWorkerStill there is definitely a Vulcanus base in the main continent now. I`m just not sure where
11:47.12OluapWorkerI do want to use Xacutus more, he`s a fun character to write about
11:51.05XhoSomewhere in Abyssus I guess
11:51.54OluapWorkerConsidering Xacutus and Kalarah have a hate-hate relationship, probably outside of Abyssus
11:52.11ImpyDroidI now imagine Xacutus singing Let It Go as he creates bridges of magma
11:54.36OluapWorkerLet It Go
11:54.38OluapWorkerI`m not familiar
11:54.51XhoFrozen theme song
11:54.58OluapWorkerRight
11:55.03OluapWorkerNever watched Frozen
11:55.12Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/52/AgentAlpha2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20150219115244 Also, moar agents
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11:56.03XhoAnyone got a top quote I could use for Alpha
11:56.09OluapWorkerroboto
11:56.10OluapWorkerNope
11:56.44HachimanI have come to dislike Frozen due to its low-quality storytelling and reliance on visual effects
11:56.45HachimanI have come to hate the fanbase of the film even more
11:56.59XhoIt is a kids film
11:57.08HachimanPrimarily because a majority of the fanbase for the film consists of Tumblr
11:58.06Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/15657_1570256306552063_7608033363178769087_n.jpg?oh=cc375e7872bdccedfcbdcb3cce1bf0c7&oe=5556D146&__gda__=1434770116_abf423791a406394efbbd040b52e329e
11:59.43HachimanI gotta go take a shower, be back soon
12:01.33ImpyDroidHachiman: Hate as in Hachi hate or normal hate
12:04.31ImpyDroidhttps://2ch.hk/po/src/7936990/14243464214120.png
12:05.13TechnobliteratorIt consists of young girls
12:05.26TechnobliteratorI don't see what's wrong with/really different about that fanbase :o
12:05.57AdmiralPandathat's cos you're a carp
12:07.50XhoDUNE CARPS
12:08.01ImpyDroidTechnobliter: It is easier to list things Hachi does not hate
12:08.10ImpyDroidDon't mind him
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12:27.14ImpyDroid2I drew Clotho riding Jerkon
12:34.22ImpyDroid2It turned out rather bad but kinda cute
12:37.27OluapWorkerShow dis
12:42.05HachimanRiding
12:42.08HachimanIn what sense]
12:42.12XhoAs a mount
12:42.19XhoStill doesn't explain it correctly
12:42.53HachimanJerkon got so much swag he stole Hachi's girl
12:43.15OluapWorkerJerkon - who the fuck is this kid             Clotho - crocohorsie
12:44.58HachimanAlso yes it is easier to list things I like
12:45.04HachimanI do not like a lot of things hur
12:45.12Xholike dik
12:45.18Hachimanyee
12:45.41ImpyDroid2>implying Hachi does *not* like dik
12:46.38Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10978623_1567156996834969_1941031872535396527_n.jpg?oh=3870d5069c737c67e7f10316945e2f57&oe=55530C36&__gda__=1431232265_f9726925de13db63f19dbbe1d6df8954 >me
12:47.13OluapWorkerImpyDroid2: show the drawing
12:49.31ImpyDroid2rite
12:50.55ImpyDroid2http://i.imgur.com/PalV8y8h.jpg Enjoy
12:51.09ImpyDroid2Not my best work
12:52.27XhoKoluap - kappa
12:52.48HachimanJerkon looks terrified
12:53.32OluapWorkerMy lines are appropriate
12:53.47HachimanClotho - ^^      Jerkon - D:
12:56.43ImpyDroid2<PROTECTED>
12:57.18OluapWorkerYou should work on your fiction that`s what
12:57.30ImpyDroid2True
12:57.59ImpyDroid2Problem is whenever I come home my mom starts screaming at me and telling me to study maths
12:58.10ImpyDroid2*calculus
12:59.23XhoU ASIAN NOT BSIAN
12:59.38OluapWorkerHow ngh
12:59.52ImpyDroid2Right now I am Csian which is why my mom's mad
13:00.34HachimanBut
13:00.36HachimanC is good
13:00.42XhoNot to an Asian
13:00.54XhoA* is good, A is average and B is inadequate
13:01.15ImpyDroid2Xho speaks like a true Asian
13:01.26XhoI'm half Asian so I know the half of it
13:04.08Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Agent_Alpha dun
13:04.20XhoI need to redo relations but cba right now
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13:07.04OluapWorkerolpho
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13:10.32OluapWorker_Dangit
13:10.53HachimanHai
13:14.58XhoOh god
13:15.09XhoJust saw this graffiti on this image
13:15.17Hachimanwat b dis
13:15.21XhoSomeone painted a swastika and said 'Muslims get out'
13:15.27XhoIt was a Hindu Temple
13:15.29HachimanOh wow
13:16.30HachimanSo over 200,000 people have applied for the Mars One mission - which is a project that determines to establish the first colony on the Martian surface - and the names of the 100 people selected have been revealed to the public
13:18.45HachimanLooks like we may be able to see Martian colonialism in our lifetimes
13:19.18XhoSounds funny but interesting
13:19.29OluapWorkerI have my doubts
13:20.02Hachimaninb4 black hole forms between Earth and Mars
13:20.45XhoI dunno how long it would take for spacecraft at this current point in time to travel 140 million miles
13:21.17HachimanWell we have put stuff on Mars before
13:21.37OluapWorkerIt takes 6 months to get to Mars
13:21.51OluapWorkerGoing there and returning to Earth takes a year
13:21.53Xhofuk dat shit
13:22.10HachimanThe Mars One candidates are not intended to return to Earth however
13:22.18HachimanThey are to stay on Mars to fulfill their role there
13:22.33OluapWorkerWe`re not gonna see any Mars colonization when we can`t even get back on the Moon which`s right next door
13:22.54XhoIf Earth was shortened down to 100 pixels wide, the distance between Earth and Mars would be 428,000 pixels
13:24.02XhoIn other words, if Earth was 2 cm wide the relative distance to Mars would be 113 metres
13:24.31HachimanIt is not that we cannot go back to the Moon, I believe the case is that the nations that are more prepared for lunar travel are not interested in it as of recent
13:24.40HachimanWe more than certainly have the technology for it
13:24.45XhoI don't think there's much to do on the Moon
13:27.11HachimanI have read propositions and discussions involving the Russian government wanting to establish a permanent moonbase
13:27.21Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10984081_10204604663249440_5696472709553761999_n.jpg?oh=e0b8a25ce07bb46feff021c5fc57d043&oe=5592D4E7&__gda__=1435467672_f348426640a287f5b1a0e8ef2c06bece
13:27.35Hachimanhur
13:28.16XhoI wonder how much it would cost to fund a permanent moonbase though
13:29.12OluapWorkerSeveral moths
13:29.14XhoNASA's budget is $17 billion and RKA's is $6 billion
13:29.48HachimanYeah funding is the primary problem with spae programs
13:29.56Hachiman*space
13:31.44Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1926873_677475428966317_10249673_n.jpg?oh=e0a4db049be0367b24a9caa85eef072d&oe=55593CC7&__gda__=1435125035_c1b826b05bc6e58c439b16d1934c7e88 "My dog looks like she's a floating head"
13:32.32OluapWorkerdangit dog
13:33.35HachimanI hope that one day I will be able to reach a century of age so that when people ask me how I have managed to live for so long I can answer them with bullshit
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13:41.56Wormy_Happy New Year of the Ram or Goat or Sheep
13:42.09Wormy_Its a bit worrying nobody is quite sure
13:43.42HachimanIt is Sheep/Ram
13:43.54HachimanActually no yeah Sheep
13:44.08HachimanNext year it will be Monkey
13:50.10XhoKUNG FEI HAT CHOY
13:50.33XhoAs Homer Simpson says
13:52.08XhoOr does he say it properly I dunno
13:52.14HachimanHe does
13:52.34HachimanOr rather it's Hei Fat rather than Fei Hat
13:52.54Xhorite
13:53.10XhoGONG HEI FAT CHOY
13:53.26XhoI dunno
13:53.37XhoChinese is not my strong point
13:55.23OluapWorkerching chong ping pong
13:56.19Xhohttp://i.ytimg.com/vi/nKZ57nZExYU/hqdefault.jpg Racism level: Kicath
13:56.40Xho"Everything Wrong With Toy Story In 10 Minutes Or Less" Disregard the fact that toys cannot come to life in the first place
13:59.22OluapWorkerhur
14:19.55HachimanSo I just read Arthur C. Clarke's "The Nine Billion Names of God"
14:20.05OluapWorkerno one gives a shi
14:20.08HachimanPretty fascinating story
14:22.02HachimanIt involves a brotherhood of Tibetan monks hiring a couple of American engineers to install a Mark V. Automatic Sequence Computer to generate and compile letter calculations rather than numeric ones in an attempt to list all the possible names of God - a task that the monks have been attempting for 300 years and thought it would take 15,000 years to conclude
14:22.15HachimanAs in, install it into their monastery
14:23.40HachimanThey hired and paid for the Mark V because it could effectively reduce a task that would otherwise require 15,000 years to accomplish to around three months
14:28.31HachimanThe monks, rather than using any standard alphabet to calculate these names, devised an alphabet of their own and believed that God's name contains no more than 9 characters with no more than 3 repeating letters in a single name; they desired to compile the list of nine billion names since they believed that it was a product of universal purpose
14:29.16Xho"Mark V" WHOA THEY GOT MASTER CHIEF IN ON IT
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14:30.10GhelaeHello.
14:30.26HachimanMaster Chief is a SPARTAN-II not a Mark V hur
14:30.29HachimanHai Ghel
14:37.22Wormy_You know Baxter and Arthur wrote some books together
14:40.38HachimanAye I do
14:40.49HachimanNever read any of them unfortunately
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15:00.14ImpyDroidI met a German guy in a bar
15:00.19ImpyDroidWas entertaining
15:00.21ImpyDroid*cafe
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15:01.05JepardiHi
15:25.18Wormy_My favourite track atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gnHWuEcY3w
15:25.48Wormy_It plays in Space Engine when travelling through the galaxy at hundreds of c
15:25.59Wormy_sometimes
15:26.17HachimanHngh I really want to try Space Engine
15:27.38OluapWorkerWhat`s stopping you
15:28.39HachimanMy graphics card
15:30.09HachimanI doubt my computer would be able to run something as complex as Space Engine in its current state of hardware, and besides, if I am to explore the outer reaches of space then I want to explore them in high detail
15:31.54HachimanAlso I just remembered what the Sloan Great Wall is
15:33.00HachimanA wall-like cosmic structure made up of galaxies as if they were building blocks
15:33.39Wormy_Indeed
15:34.06OluapWorkerThe Sloan Great Wall isn`t even the largest one
15:34.09OluapWorkerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules%E2%80%93Corona_Borealis_Great_Wall this is the largest
15:34.18Wormy_SE is quite performance intensive
15:34.57XhoSantorakh - goddamn mortals            explore my shitty warr
15:35.05Wormy_I like how it presents a problem to standard theories
15:41.52XhoSo from what I've gathered
15:42.52XhoIf the Solar System (to the Oort Cloud) was scaled down to 2 cm the Hercules Corona Borealis Great Wall would span from London to Istanbul
15:43.04Xhoroughly
15:43.10XhoNo actually lemme redo that
15:44.01HachimanYeah you are far off
15:44.28XhoMore like 80 miles than 1650 miles
15:45.05XhoFor some reason today is a mental impairment day
15:45.10OluapWorkeru cant grasp the size of da wall
15:46.00XhoOr is it 3,074 miles
15:46.06XhoThat sounds more like it
15:46.41HachimanWhen one observes stuff such as this, it becomes practically impossible to reliably claim that intelligent life, let alone extraterrestrial life itself, does not exist other than ourselves in our universe
15:47.42Wormy_Believe it or not, some honest physicists have estimated the probability of a universe of our age only having one, based on probability and the multiverse.
15:47.43Xho3,074 miles is roughly from London to Shiraz in Iran
15:47.56Wormy_Not sure I agree myself
15:48.22HachimanI feel the scale is too great
15:48.27XhoOr even more roughly London to Lagos in Nigeria
15:48.54XhoWell the Oort Cloud is 1.87 light years, the Wall is 10 billion
15:49.34XhoI can't work this out tbh
15:50.31HachimanThere is a near-infinite number of galaxies with an even greater number of stars, I cannot see how the disregard for extraterrestrial life could be invalidated so easily
15:50.39OluapWorkerIt`s difficult to grasp the sheer size of 10 billion light years
15:50.41Hachiman*validated
15:50.50XhoIt's not 1 moth though
15:50.56OluapWorkerhur
15:51.01GhelIf the solar system is 1.87 cm, then the Wall is 10 billion cm. So if there are about 1600 m = 160 000 cm in one mile, then the wall is
15:51.07Ghel~10000000000/160000
15:51.07infobot62500
15:51.11Ghelmiles long.
15:51.28XhoI was definitely overthinking it
15:51.37OluapWorkerew maths
15:52.20XhoSo basically if the solar system was 1.87 cm then the Wall wraps around Earth two and a half times
15:52.58GhelYes. And a single Milky Way-sized galaxy is about a kilometre in size.
15:53.28Gheldiameter*
15:54.51Wormy_I have a very controvertial opinion that life or some even more complex form of emergence will transform the evolution of the universe
15:55.14HachimanWhat could be more complex than life?
15:55.15XhoSo it's roughly one ninth of the observable universe
15:55.35Wormy_Earth has been transformed by life and is being transformed in a blink of an eye by intelligence
15:56.20Wormy_Hachiman:  The actions of creative intelligences, cultural evolution and society.  And who knows what beyond that.
15:57.12Wormy_Memeticists have said that the majority of all evolution that has ever happened has already occured in the human mind, in the form of memes
15:57.50XhoHachiman: Meshuggah's polyrhythms
15:57.56OluapWorkerThousands of years in the future, we`ll be big guys for the universe
15:58.05Hachimanhur
15:59.01Wormy_Hopefully we live in a multiverse, so we could say that we or our descendants have already spread into the universe
15:59.31Wormy_Not in all universes, but in some
15:59.52OluapWorkerI have little faith in humanity considering our current situation so I doubt we`ll ever leave the Earth
16:00.13OluapWorkerWe`ll probably self-destruct before we get the chance
16:00.17Xhono space 4 u
16:00.56Wormy_I'm a rational optimist.  That means I don't believe things will get better, but that problems are inevitable, yet soluable.  It takes an understanding why cultures, theories and so on fail
16:01.59Wormy_So our modern society or maybe a future one may in principle be capable of reaching further than Earth
16:02.08Wormy_*will in principle
16:04.05Wormy_It begs the question why the universe hasn't been engineered yet.  Well we only see the past, we cannot forsee future problems and solutions
16:05.18OluapWorkerwe dai before den
16:05.43Wormy_Possibly we are the only intelligence in the nearest galaxies, or perhaps other ones exist but have technology beyond our available ideas and sensors.  Or maybe, aliens think fundamentally differently to us.
16:07.37OluapWorkerOr the aliens are more primitive than us\
16:07.49Wormy_Anyway, perhaps less rationally, I like to think some UFOs are self-replicating spacecraft which inadvertently cause human minds to hallucinate.
16:07.54Wormy_Yes
16:08.21Wormy_One might expect the universe to be teeming with such technology
16:08.32Wormy_If life is as common as we hope
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16:08.45Zillafire101Hello all.
16:09.26GhelHello.
16:10.03Wormy_Either they don't exist and apply a razor to our predictions or they do but in some form we can't recognise unless they appear ephemerally, which some UFOs do.
16:17.15Wormy_I don't imagine we would likely detect such spacecraft if they were made of nano or picoscale units able to self-organise
16:17.28Wormy_Heck there could be aliens crawling over our monitors
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16:18.31Wormy_This is a rather unfalsifiable assertion at present so I'll shut up
16:19.03Wormy_hi
16:19.10GhelYes. Put your computer screen under a scanning electron microscope, and then get back to us. :P
16:19.37Comrade_VinnyHEy
16:19.43GhelHello.
16:19.51Comrade_Vinny:)
16:20.46Wormy_Would be cool if UFOs exist mostly in cloud form and then assemble where they like
16:20.58Wormy_drifting through the air
16:22.00GhelLike utility fog.
16:22.52Wormy_Precisely
16:24.32GhelIndividual nanoscale units wouldn't be any good for detecting visible light and especially not audible sound, though, so don't worry about them spying on you (although they may be able to make sense of non-wavelike fluctuations in electric fields, pressure and temperature). They'd have to assemble into at least dust-sized particles to do that.
16:26.55GhelMore likely, I imagine these fog-like clouds would have made Earth their home a long time ago (especially if interstellar travel is hard; they might well be stranded here). Existing as dust motes might be more of a survival mechanism thing than anything else.
16:27.13GhelSo existing as...*
16:28.42Wormy_Interesting, certain things like nuclear reactors, power stations and aircraft where they commonly are seen might be places where they assemble into greater conglomerates
16:29.15Wormy_indeed
16:29.40Wormy_Cou'd they have even manipulated our biology?
16:30.12GhelPerhaps. In what ways are you thinking of?
16:30.59Wormy_Playing with our genes to expand our brain's capacity to store and transmit information
16:32.06GhelMaybe, but our knowledge of human evolution is good enough now to make that unnecessary. Of course, they could have done it seemlessly to make it look like natural evolution, but there'd be no way to tell now.
16:32.33GhelIf we want to be really speculative, perhaps this utility fog is not just technology, but what the aliens are like naturally: intelligent colonial organisms, who have just augmented their bodies to have greater capabilities in Earth's atmosphere.
16:33.39Wormy_Indeed
16:34.20Wormy_Maybe being stuck on Earth they require something like humans to build spaceships
16:35.28Wormy_Hm, I think I'll add this to my concept fiction
16:37.10Wormy_The resurrection technology may well be derived from these alien units.  And perhaps the templates for people's minds somehow get store in the utility fog and that's how the ressurection machine works
16:37.32HachimanWonder what their relationship with the dinosaurs must have been like
16:38.06GhelPeople's minds being stored in the utility fog could also create ghosts...
16:39.31Wormy_Huh, yes
16:41.28Wormy_And ghosts of extinst animals
16:41.42Wormy_The more smart ones anyway
16:42.54Wormy_Actually they did this story in Doctor Who, but using the Matrix instead of utility fog (which could have been an advanced Time Lord version)
16:45.31Wormy_https://www.bestthinking.com/articles/science/physics/quantum_physics/explanations-annihilated-in-hilbert-s-grand-infinity-hotel
16:46.04Wormy_Sadly when you read the first couple of paragraphs of scientific philosophy our speculation simply isn't a good explanation
16:46.23Wormy_But that's what science fiction is for
16:52.28Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10985904_1408437702792673_4372349133371785425_n.jpg?oh=cb8fab374b740e4faeaf1cee65721c63&oe=555A236E&__gda__=1435803223_ac2895f406e11be580f7d5ad2c7f5f14 This never gets old
16:53.07OluapWorkerThat`s me whenever you say anything
16:54.24GhelWormy_: Currently, we can't verify our speculation, and I'm not sure it could be falsified, so it certainly doesn't seem like a scientific one.
16:54.26HachimanThat's me whenever I say anything
16:54.53GhelBut if I could come up with something nicely scientifically testable, I'd write a paper on it. :P
16:56.07Wormy_The issue is that it contains many parts that are hard to refute because they assert things not easily testable, and because the idea can easily be varied into many ad hoc forms as we like
16:56.46Wormy_I think it may still be true but science fiction is good for expressing such ideas
16:59.29Wormy_A theory is good when we both can't vary it without breaking it and its easily testable.  Foe example, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude of Newton's equations makes it hard to vary given our local experiences, though it gives way to Relativity on grander scales.  A new theoey would be tentative, while older explanations that survive tend to act like the example
17:00.01Wormy_bbl
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17:27.23OluapWorker~cuddle Cyrannian
17:27.23infobotACTION grabs Cyrannian and cuddles until Cyrannian begs for mercy
17:27.57GhelHello.
17:28.14Cyrannian~hug OluapWorker
17:28.14infobotACTION jumps into OluapWorker's lap and huggles and *hugs* OluapWorker
17:28.58Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_Two - Started work on this
17:30.05OluapWorkerI noticed
17:47.39Wormy_You know what we never did
17:48.00Wormy_SporeWiki's top 10 ugliest or featured ugliest list.
17:48.17Wormy_Grimbolsaurians would score quite well
17:48.26HachimanHachi wins
17:49.11Wormy_Still, he is quite well made
17:49.35Wormy_Grimbies glitch when they walk
17:50.32CyrannianThey do a very sassy sashay
17:51.47OluapWorkerThey get my vote
18:03.00Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10981162_468033116677358_3482711155758096572_n.jpg?oh=a66c4bc95b4596a3ce7afbd19ee7e871&oe=554E2750&__gda__=1431879738_b92c88856579571dcc3e664a7bd5d1e2
18:05.11Wormy_salts
18:05.44OluapWorkerhuyr
18:05.47OluapWorkerhur even
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18:21.42drommy client reseted it's own settings
18:24.18dromEverything looks much better with the Ubuntu font by the way.
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18:32.13HachimanHai
18:34.10OluapWorkerHi
18:34.47TekDroidHello
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18:45.31dino82_hellopw all
18:46.35Comrade_VinnyHello Dino!
18:48.38dromOh hello.
18:48.43Wormy_I love the olden days
18:49.01Wormy_"John Coleman, began a slow pursuit of the man, who realised he was being followed. When Rhynwick Williams, an unemployed 23-year-old, reached his house, Coleman confronted him, accusing him of insulting a lady, and challenged him to a duel." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Monster
18:49.23dino82_@Vinny and Drom: Hey guys! How are you doing!
18:51.44dromFeeling fatigued. Sleept for 4-5 hours, played Broforce before going to city to be checked by a doc'. Then getting a haircut before renewing our passports. Now I'm looking for someone to play a game with.
18:53.43dromUnfortunately. There is none who I know seem to be active or willing to play a game.
18:54.03dromAnd I don't feel motived to develop on my Unity project for now.
18:59.09Wormy_drom:  Browse funny images
18:59.30Wormy_or visit TV Tropes
18:59.32dromI've got the idea of writing a pirate rivality conflict gone to far, erupting into an asymmertical war.
18:59.41dromI'm not in the mood to browse the internet.
18:59.50dromI've literaly seen everything for today.
19:00.20dino82_@Drom: wow that quite a lot, and that with little sleep! Nicely done :D
19:00.51HachimanBit of a downer topic but I have been wondering what it must feel like to be in the shoes of a terminally ill individual
19:00.53HachimanAs in, being subject to the knowledge that one is dying
19:02.29dromIn the light shinning the obvious facts. You would at first feel long-term depression and hopeless.
19:05.55dromI don't know if it's relevant or not. But my grandfather was terminally ill due to smoking. He became weaker and weaker by day and day. But I've never noticed any aura or sign of depression or loss of hope from him. But I, and my relatives whom are his offspring and grandchildren, noticed that he was happier and felt relief every time and minute he spent with us.
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19:06.13Wormy_Ghel:  One thing I find odd about this is why the Chinese government didn't deface "perishes"http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-5-31/29172.html
19:06.19Wormy_hi
19:08.29HachimanHello Monet
19:08.38MonetHello
19:08.44dromIn short: You'll fell better when you get to meet your relatives, offspring and friends for the last time. Giving yourself the relief that they know about your health and try to spend their time to make your life's last days a paradise.
19:08.51dromHey Monet.
19:09.26Wormy_lolol check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncombable_hair_syndrome
19:10.02dino82_hellow monet
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19:14.21dromTekDroid: Can I've the link to your Fictionverse clock?
19:15.00dino82_we have afictionverse clock?
19:18.25MonetTek made one a while ago. It's designed to give a date based on your computer's clock
19:19.27TekDroidLatest version was on my user page.
19:19.42TekDroidIt's set to GMT so timezones don't matter.
19:20.31TekDroidI used GMT because it's both the standard one and the one where half the main community is. :P
19:21.01Wormy_Hachiman:  Another freaky life cycle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adactylidium
19:21.46HachimanWhat the fuck
19:22.21GhelWormy_: Maybe defacing the word "perishes" would be an admission that the word was there?
19:22.39Wormy_yeah
19:23.06Wormy_Nobody likes to admit to the government that "perishes" exists
19:23.26OluapWorkerChrist those are some cruel mites
19:23.43OluapWorkerCannibalism followed by incest, rinse and repeat
19:24.08dromThat male who gets all the virgins.
19:24.34Wormy_http://www.qwantz.com/comics/comic2-1625.png
19:26.48dromInsects are like aliens. They are are completely different from mammals.
19:29.59TekDroidWormy_: Lol
19:30.51HachimanApparently there is going to be another Alien film with Sigourney Weaver involved being directed by Neill Blomkamp - the guy who directed District 9 and Elysium
19:31.51HachimanSet after events depicted in Prometheus 2, which is being directed by Ridley Scott
19:32.42ImperiosMonet: http://i.imgur.com/xfpsfzy.jpg
19:32.57ImperiosHachiman: Blomkamp, right
19:33.00ImperiosNot sure what to think of him
19:33.22ImperiosLike he made some good movies but his style is also very heavy-handed
19:34.16dromImperios: Oh you just reminded me of the 42 AI Civ 5 game right now.
19:41.40ImperiosMonet: http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/838/838198.png
19:43.12MonetImperios: There is no escape
19:44.55dromGot invited to a 8-man L4D2 game.
19:45.02dromMy life is now completed.
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19:51.32DrodoEmpireI'll probably just be on for a few minutes.
19:51.37DrodoEmpireAnyway, what's new?
20:03.41TekDroidApparently my CK2 character is cheating on his wife with his wife. XD
20:04.18DrodoEmpirewat
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20:07.03TekDroidMy heir has the genius trait though. :D
20:07.07XhoHachiman: https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10983405_10153108932982943_2742951249195385709_n.jpg?oh=1642bafb50927694968d5bf3eda58a80&oe=5591D5EE
20:12.18XhoRight well I'm feeling generous
20:12.27XhoName my favourite Meshuggah song and I'll make something on Spore for you
20:12.44HachimanI Am Colossus
20:12.49XhoNop
20:12.59Hachimanfug
20:16.13MonetAztec Two-Step?
20:17.11MonetDemiurge?
20:17.39XhoNope and nope
20:21.49ImperiosBleed
20:22.17XhoNope
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20:31.48dromThe went game went shit. But atleast I feel better now.
20:31.55dromthe game went*
20:36.20XhoSo no one else is gonna guess my favourite Meshuggah song then
20:36.22XhoOh well
20:36.41Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMmsVxn8d4k It's this
20:39.44HachimanShould've guessed
20:39.54HachimanThe whole album is great hur
20:40.56XhoEvery Meshuggah album is great
20:41.00XhoExcept Contradictions Collapse
20:41.03XhoI can't get into that
20:42.34Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8 Nu when the team landed on Elysion Station
20:42.37XhoOr Elysium
20:42.44XhoI dunno what the proper spelling is
20:43.20MonetXho: Elysion.
20:44.19Monethttp://www.pcgamer.com/uk-to-get-its-first-dedicated-e-sports-arena/ cool
20:45.54MonetOKay 500 seats may nto be that much but I still see this as an accomplishment
20:47.56dromSo I learned today that there is a town named Boo in Sweden.
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21:09.51Monethello
21:10.05CyrannianHello.
21:13.32Wormy_Hi
21:15.32Wormy_Xho, Monet, Hachiman:  Reactions to Eastenders https://vine.co/v/OxQFnnDJ9EP
21:17.40Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11009096_725848200862108_2358279679418076899_n.jpg?oh=250727090fbb76aca6374e79360d4cf8&oe=5551C6F8
21:17.43Wormy_lol https://twitter.com/BBCOne/status/568515209754574848
21:17.50CyrannianPoor Dot doe
21:19.08TekDroidhttps://imgur.com/gallery/eBaetEm
21:20.44Wormy_You watch it Cyrannian?
21:20.51Wormy_Yeah I hope she doesn't die
21:21.22CyrannianI don't watch it regularly, but I caught the last five minutes.
21:22.38Wormy_I did almost stop watching it last year but the last couple of plots have drawn me in again
21:22.50Wormy_Some classic characters have come back
21:23.23Wormy_ooh its back on now
21:23.28Wormy_bbl
21:23.42XhoWormy is indeed British
21:32.27dromOh hai Cyrannian
21:32.36CyrannianHi there
21:36.17Technobliteratorso
21:36.30TechnobliteratorIt turns out Wikia won't let me be acheckuser until we have an IP problem
21:36.37TechnobliteratorWell, when we do, I still have that to show them
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21:44.43dromSums pretty much of what we hear everyday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO5IaAKTKsQ
21:59.56*** part/#sporewiki Ghel (0597003b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.5.151.0.59)
22:07.16Wormy_Xho:  That was http://hackertyper.com/
22:13.20Wormy_Xho:  Even the kids in Eastenders are evil https://vine.co/v/Ox2gImPpOTW
22:13.55Xhopsycho child psycho child psycho psycho psycho child
22:14.07dromgerman angry kid
22:15.23Xho"BOBBY BEALE CAUGHT A BODY BOUT' A YEAR AGOOOOO"
22:16.05TekDroid...maybe my math is wrong but someone has 70 hours in a game that came out today. O.O
22:16.29XhoSo it wasn't Patrick then
22:16.35XhoI thought he was faking the stroke the whole time
22:16.42Wormy_hoh
22:16.50Wormy_Somehow its Bobby
22:17.00Wormy_Not sure what to think
22:17.43Xho"psycho child psycho child psycho psycho psycho child"
22:18.37Wormy_Dot also killed Nick, I don't know if you know that
22:18.56Wormy_She refused to call an ambulance while he had a bad reaction
22:19.19Wormy_Seriously Eastenders has pretty much broken the scales
22:19.19XhoYeah I saw that
22:20.39Wormy_"Bobby killed mr.burns"
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22:22.32Wormy_Not sure how Bobby could have killed her lol
22:22.37Wormy_hi
22:22.57XhoWormy_: https://vine.co/v/Mg3jY02QQQw Standard
22:23.20Wormy_I remember that
22:23.55Wormy_Bobby must share Ben's psycho genes
22:25.33XhoYOU NEED SLAPPING DOWN
22:25.43Wormy_Meanwhile in Corrie https://twitter.com/Pete_Allison/status/568534018989273088
22:26.34Wormy_"Beale with it"
22:28.40Wormy_https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FreeDot&src=hash&mode=photos
22:30.24Xhohttps://twitter.com/memesLAD/status/568529987638177792 pahaha
22:31.10XhoWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4i4UUtf3eQ What about this
22:31.48XhoI AM DEREK BRANNING
22:35.46Wormy_Xho:  Or when Nick takes hostages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGc3ggeT8Ho
22:36.41Cyrannianhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0b/VengeanceFrigate.png/revision/latest?cb=20150219223613 - New ship
22:36.52XhoNasty Nick
22:38.46XhoCyrannian: Nice
22:38.52Wormy_Bobby will never top Ben https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYXLRIsvR9o
22:39.39XhoSHE NEEDED SLAPPING DOWN
22:40.28Wormy_Really liking it Cyrannian
22:45.04Cyranniandanke guys
22:57.29Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Imperial_State#Military_and_Defence - Added some ships here
23:00.06CyrannianNight folks
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23:31.45Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c7/KicathianCorvette.png/revision/latest?cb=20150219232710 I felt like making a Kicathian Corvette so I did
23:35.01XhoGranted even though it's the second smallest designation of Kicathian ships it's still 768 metres long
23:35.43MonetThat's a big corvette.
23:36.29XhoMyrmidon-class Corvettes are usually a popular choice of fleet commanders
23:37.08XhoUnless you're Agent Alpha and you prefer a Nihilist-class Dreadnought
23:38.11XhoThe smallest designated ships are Fighter Classes
23:38.30XhoThey're probably 200m long at the largest
23:40.29MonetWhat makes the corvette popular with fleet commanders?
23:41.12XhoFast manoeuvrability as well as being comfortable on long periods in space
23:42.41MonetSounds more ideal for a scout.
23:43.13XhoFighters would come under that I guess
23:44.42Wormy_My bet is on Jack http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/497/283/eac.jpg
23:45.01XhoCorvettes tend only to serve as command stations for commanders though it is more than capable in a combat situation
23:45.28XhoIf you're a commander on a Corvette you'd rather let Frigates and larger ships do the work for you
23:46.37MonetOKay looking up modern real-world corvettes can measure between 50-128m in length.
23:46.40MonetThat's kinda tiny
23:46.55dromWormy_: The way he uses his foot as a grasp is impressive.
23:46.58XhoMost of the size is to do with the Kicath's size themselves
23:47.13TekDroidReal life ships top out a few hundred meters though.
23:47.17MonetKicath-  Stoopid tiny boats
23:47.54XhoIf you crammed 150 Kicath onto a 128m ship they'd find it slightly claustrophobic
23:48.12dromThat's about the double. That's to be 100-256.
23:48.14dromm
23:48.47XhoA 768-metre corvette is spacious for Kicath
23:49.06XhoHence its general popularity among commanders
23:49.41XhoYou'd more than likely get smaller types of corvettes but taking the Kicath's size into account getting any smaller than 350m is unlikely
23:50.27MonetIt might be possible for corvettes in the fictionverse to be crewed by a dozen if not less.
23:50.38XhoTrue
23:51.00XhoA Commander's 150-strong crew would likely be able as military forces themselves
23:51.15dromWhile we are on space ships and prefered space. I'd say that Nomatari prefer ships with smaller corridors due to their preference to squeeze between tiny spaces.
23:51.28XhoKicath - dat just weird
23:52.13XhoThe Kicath do have a 67,800 m Dreadnought in concept which operates on a crew of 17,500
23:52.48Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0b/ApocryphaClassDreadnought.png/revision/latest?cb=20141029191259 This thing
23:54.54MonetDraconis - Now you're jsut showing off.
23:55.15XhoI do sometimes wonder that with the Kicath's affinity for AI and hypercomputers that do they even need a crew on a Dreadnought
23:55.49XhoThey probably like to have some sort of direct control over their own fleet I guess
23:57.03XhoAnd for the sake of sci-fi settings a colossal ship with no crew just sounds odd anyway
23:57.43dromngh, i need to make another ship for the sovereignty
23:57.53MonetTheian - ...you sure?
23:58.15Xhohur

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