IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150207

00:27.29TekDroidO.o Space Engine offers a 37GB texture pack.
00:27.51TekDroidI... uh... Yeah, no.
00:27.55The_Randomnesswow
00:28.58TekDroidAnd that's just advanced textures for our Solar system. XD
00:29.07The_RandomnessSounds pretty nice though
00:31.04TekDroidSpace Engine really is epic in general considering it's free. :D
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00:37.50Wormy_awayI was watching Atlas Shrugged, a film about becoming a hero by taking control over your destiny and being selfish
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00:38.38The_Randomnessoh gosh, I've heard of the book by that name
00:38.50GD12Which book are we referring too?
00:38.53Wormy_awayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Shrugged
00:38.56GD12Ayn Rand?
00:39.06Wormy_awayYeah, I watched part 1 of the film
00:39.31GD12Did not know there was a film series of it
00:39.34Wormy_awayI'm aware of Ayn Rand through "All watched over by Machines of Loving Grace" documentary series
00:41.11Wormy_awayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_egoism
00:41.22TekDroidI think it's a 3 part film, i don't think the last one was out yet. Fairly minor, lower budget sort of thing.
00:41.55Wormy_awayIt wasn't that low budget (first one anyway)
00:42.26The_RandomnessThis xkcd expresses my opinion of said book http://xkcd.com/1049/
00:43.09TekDroidmid-budget maybe. Not international feature film type thing though.
00:43.34Wormy_awaylol
00:44.00TekDroidI know it had a fairly limited release
00:44.01Wormy_awayI find Objectivism a mix bag of things I like and things I despise
00:44.27TekDroidI agree.
00:44.59TekDroidThere was an XKCD title text that summarized it...
00:45.19Wormy_awayThat and Rand didn't seem like a nice person, at least according to this series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_of_Loving_Grace_%28TV_series%29#Love_and_Power
00:45.53TekDroid" I had a hard time with Ayn Rand because I found myself enthusiastically agreeing with the first 90% of every sentence, but getting lost at 'therefore, be a huge asshole to everyone.'" I think I ended up somewhere near this. XD
00:46.28TekDroidFrom the XKCD Random posted. :P
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00:47.30Wormy_00:46] <Wormy_away> I felt like that with the film
00:48.07Wormy_I could see the characters were supposed to be heroes but I wasn't sure if I liked them because they were selfish
00:48.33TekDroidPretty much.
00:49.02The_RandomnessFrom the wikipedia article wormulon linked earlier, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_egoism#Ayn_Rand
00:49.47The_RandomnessWhat other conclusion am I supposed to come to through that other than "Altruism is bad, ergo be a complete asshole."?
00:50.44Wormy_Thats the essence
00:51.24TekDroidO.o Space Engine was about to try and install to my Spore CD.
00:52.15Wormy_wot
00:52.23Wormy_Don't let the AI take over
00:52.37TekDroidClose, but wrong drive. XD
00:53.19Wormy_Hm, she said "he certainly does not deserve it" when asked if a weak man is beyond love.
00:58.23The_RandomnessThe main problem I have with it is that it runs completely in the face of how I view the world.
00:58.50Wormy_I'm not sure if rejecting altruism is even rational
00:59.16The_RandomnessGood point
00:59.48Wormy_In the end I think even Rand defied her own philosophy and the whole thing collapsed
00:59.56The_Randomnesslol
01:00.10The_RandomnessHer house of cards blew apart?
01:00.42TekDroidWormy: Someone found a planet in Space Engine with 1038 moons. O.O
01:01.19Wormy_wow
01:01.51Wormy_The_Randomness:  You might like this series http://nemesistv.info/item/videos/92/95D4RN1NNO7O/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace-1-3-love-and-power-vost#sthash.jznxViGh.dpbs
01:02.35Wormy_But yeah its all about objectivism in the first episode (critical of it though)
01:07.19The_RandomnessSounds interesting, although that site you linked me doesn't seem to work
01:09.31Wormy_http://vimeo.com/68299139
01:09.34Wormy_Its on Vimeo too
01:09.48TekDroidI'll have to ckeck it out later.
01:11.18Wormy_And Dailymotion
01:13.00Wormy_tell me what you think
01:13.00TekDroidRand basically fled Communist Russia to become the anti-communist. :P
01:13.26Wormy_Personally I like episode 2, where nature was oversimplified
01:14.49The_RandomnessListening to it right now
01:16.01Wormy_It might give you some ideas for the Salsetthe
01:16.49Wormy_10 minutes is relevant lol
01:17.24The_RandomnessI'm actually at that point right now
01:18.08The_RandomnessNot sure why, but the spanish subtitles are making it even better
01:18.23TekDroidI'll check it in a minute. :P
01:19.12Wormy_The series has a good choice of music imo
01:20.48TekDroidFarengeto is supposed to try and be that tech utopia type so maybe I'll find something I can use.
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01:23.43The_RandomnessKind of tempted to ramble about the Salsetthe now
01:23.53Tek0516Phome glitched and I burnt my popcorn. :/
01:23.58The_Randomnessrip
01:24.53Tek0516Lost my logs for the last hour too. :/
01:25.12Tek0516Wormy: What was that link?
01:25.50Wormy_Part 1 http://vimeo.com/68299139
01:26.04Wormy_Part 2 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eagvn_all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace-2-3-the-use-and-abuse-of-vegetational-concepts-2011_auto
01:27.52Tek0516Why is there spanish titles? XD
01:28.11Wormy_http://nemesistv.info/item/videos/92/Y9B3KGYRS112/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace-2-3-the-use-and-abuse-of-vegetational-concepts-vost#
01:28.17Wormy_Try nemesistv
01:28.24Wormy_But that link didn't work for Random
01:28.36Wormy_All 3 parts are on there
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01:30.04TekDroidwhat was the nemesistv link for the first one?
01:30.25Wormy_http://nemesistv.info/item/videos/92/95D4RN1NNO7O/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace-1-3-love-and-power-vost
01:33.31MonetBIoshock was greatly inspired by Atlas Shrugged.
01:34.34MonetSO by the sounds of it she fled Russia, realised how much prosperity cam eunder capitalism then realised it still involved ttampling people.
01:35.00MonetI've seen Cracked described EVE Online as "If Ayn Rand was given a rocket ship"
01:35.26Wormy_lol
01:35.27The_Randomnesslol
01:36.35MonetCOnsidering two legends include "Sell all Goonswoarm's assets" Mittani and that guy who set up a bank to steal everyone's money and put a bounty on himself...sounds abou reight
01:36.35Wormy_EVE Online is an experiment constructed by John Galt
01:37.54MonetAlthough EVE has an extra element ot the formula: See how extravogently you cane bull off being the biggest douchebag i nthe universe.
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01:45.49Wood_Pulp_12Greetings everyone
01:46.23Wood_Pulp_12What's up?
01:47.44Wormy_We discussed Objectivism and our dislike of it
01:51.01TekDroidDamn, I think my Space Engine system list had got messed up.
01:52.36Wormy_Yeah
01:52.56Wormy_A couple of my Favorited systems are broken
01:54.06TekDroid...you can favourite systems?
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01:56.13TekDroidI'm not even sure if they changed or I just screwed up my spreadsheet
01:56.16Wormy_Well I mean, add them to a list yeah
01:56.42Wormy_I think its the flag button you press
01:56.54Wormy_Then it gives you a menu and you can add the system
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02:01.29Wood_Pulp_12Has anyone here played Space Engineers?
02:01.40Tek0516Yeah
02:02.11Wood_Pulp_12Gonna get Medieval Engineers?
02:02.25Hachiman_Medieval Engineers?
02:02.45Wood_Pulp_12It's by the same people, and it uses the same physics engine
02:02.53Wood_Pulp_12but a different setting
02:04.16Wood_Pulp_12It's being released in Early Access on the 19th
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02:05.15Wood_Pulp_12How can you quit twice?
02:06.03Wood_Pulp_12I'm watching a documentary about Shakespeare narrated by Morgan Freeman
02:06.24Wood_Pulp_12The story of the best writer of the english language told by the best speaker of the english language
02:08.30Hachiman_I would not consider Shakespeare "the best" considering he stole a lot of his story ideas from foreign plays and such
02:08.40Wood_Pulp_12Ok
02:08.51Wood_Pulp_12So I took some poetic license
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04:11.51OfficerJackal__irc ded wtf mang
04:21.16TekDroidlol
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04:42.52TekDroidNeat, I found a relatively simple way to create a nebula effect.
04:46.56TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/0XazYdo.png WIP, but has a couple nebulas and a galactic dust effect thrown in. http://i.imgur.com/0XazYdo.png
04:48.37OfficerJackal__Back!
04:49.04OfficerJackal__TekDroid: Looks cool! :D
04:49.05TekDroidHey
04:49.41OfficerJackal__"Aeoneonatrix Anomaly Region" Hng I still remember that clusterfuck. >.<
04:50.01OfficerJackal__With how he'd bring the cleanser and stuff to fight the... Err... I think Grand Tarkan Empire and stuff.
04:51.34TekDroidBorder-wise every year more of it is "reclaimed", makimg inroads through it for habitation and charting safe routes through that mess.
04:52.34TekDroidI believe the outlined borders were the 2798 ones, the big blob being post-GXS. XD
04:55.20TekDroidI don’t think GIMP likes me having an 84 layer 5792x4904 image open. XD (I'm using about 3GB of RAM between my open GIMP images. XD)
04:56.06TekDroid*loads new image* 5GB. >.>
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06:41.11TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/IUV4rGh.png I got bored and made a giant nebula. XD
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07:42.03AdmiralPandahi all
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09:00.13GhelaeHello.
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10:03.20AdmiralPandahi u
10:03.24OluapWorkerohi
10:03.33AdmiralPandaredy for deth?
10:03.41OluapWorkeryis
10:03.48AdmiralPandagud cus u dyin first
10:03.53OluapWorkerfug
10:04.27OluapWorkergettin stabbed in the face by multiple lizard men wasnt enuff
10:04.31AdmiralPandanuh
10:04.44AdmiralPandagotta assert dominance
10:05.07OluapWorkerdis sum kinky shi
10:05.20AdmiralPandakinky shi is ur campaign cus grapple and pin
10:05.37OluapWorkeryus
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11:09.24Wormy_hi
11:11.08GhelaeHello.
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12:08.39PandaMechanicushi
12:08.41PandaMechanicushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loFhB1qG18s glory
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12:48.58Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/BpQVU
12:52.16PandaMechanicuswhat's funny is I know what he's trying to talk about but I'm not gonna spoil it
12:56.19Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/psKNRAU
13:02.52PandaMechanicusOluapWorker: I just looked through the comedy section of the Dungeon Master's Big Book of Bullshit
13:03.01PandaMechanicusI forgot how much I love the people in my gaming group
13:03.09OluapWorkerHm?
13:04.10PandaMechanicus"Stunning Cleavage" (feat) - Prerequisites: Great Cleave, BAB 9+ - All targets hit but not slain by your Cleave attack must succeed on a fortitude save (DC = damage taken) or be stunned. What did you think it did?
13:05.19OluapWorkerOh wiw
13:05.20OluapWorkerwow even
13:06.22PandaMechanicussaid book is basically the compendium of the serious and not-so-serious homebrew put together by about twenty people or so
13:06.47PandaMechanicusunsurprisingly about half of it is stuff that was made up purely because it was funny
13:11.36OluapWorkerSounds fun
13:11.46OluapWorkerI don`t think I have the imagination for coming up with things like these
13:13.57PandaMechanicuseveryone needs to hurry up hur
13:18.58OluapWorkerI`ll be ready in about an hour and half from now
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13:26.39dino82_hellowz all
13:26.41dino82_how is all diong?
13:27.57OluapWorkerHi
13:28.00OluapWorkerDoing okay
13:28.54dino82_Great to hear!
13:28.57dino82_Nice new creations Oluap!
13:29.54dino82_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Petroatragal this one is very nice!
13:30.32OluapWorkerThank you
13:32.50dino82_:D
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13:49.21JepardiHi
13:50.50dino82_hellow
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14:51.17OluapPlayerrandum
14:51.22The_Randomnessey
14:53.38The_RandomnessAre we doing D&D today?
14:53.48OluapPlayerYep
14:53.51The_Randomnessah
14:54.02OluapPlayerPanda and Hachi are missing though
14:54.06The_Randomnessrip
14:59.52The_RandomnessGoing to go play some league of legos then. If my luck holds true they'll come on in the middle of a match
15:00.40Wormy_awayWatch your step though.
15:00.45The_Randomnesslol
15:00.55The_RandomnessI might step on a ward or something
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15:10.40OluapPlayerpondo
15:10.44UnconsciousPandaknew it was going to happen at some point, say whatever but I can't stay awake
15:11.04OluapPlayerWell that's a problem
15:11.18OluapPlayerSeems like D&D is cancelled today
15:15.40Wormy_awayDeD
15:22.45ImpyDroidFuk
15:23.02ImpyDroidThat's a problem
15:23.15ImpyDroidBecause I got studies tomorrow
15:23.32ImpyDroidAlso I was going to watch a movie with Alyona
15:23.39OluapPlayerNo D&D this week then
15:28.59ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: http://m.quickmeme.com/img/c6/c6a31712c492e244deb3ce5730aacc485c0fedea431b6a480dfecc7a99ff2ce0.jpg
15:29.22OluapPlayerpls no
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15:29.52HachimanFuck
15:30.20GhelHello.
15:30.27HachimanHad a power cut on my end that took out the internet and heating for a majority of the day until now
15:31.56HachimanNeedless to say it was cold
15:42.36Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10959885_10203788992786897_4784803695108632821_n.jpg?oh=d03bf43c8fbf31afb87a0ce902f909a8&oe=554B384B
15:45.48OluapPlayerhur
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15:53.22GhelHello.
15:54.01The_RandomnessHey Monet
15:54.14MonetHi
15:54.21Wormy_awayhi
15:55.23Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10959509_320960238094628_3536553806477063516_n.png?oh=5de6f8e67e94af8e2a381b2dd4e2bb1d&oe=5558B2BE&__gda__=1431751304_81205a5dc767370e98da1d4e86dacad5
15:55.44Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Unitech_Citadel_of_Sentients Oh god
15:56.08Imperios"Notable for        Nazism"
15:57.18HachimanOhgod what
15:58.00The_Randomnessmfw I see that
15:58.19ImperiosEmpire of Man - 1x1 me bro
15:58.52HachimanWe have an entire civilisation consisting of multiple races who follow under Adolf Hitler's political philosophies and policies
16:05.09ImperiosUnitech Citadel soldier - WHERE IZ ZE JEWS
16:18.41Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10388564_1131737263515998_8825711912521197450_n.jpg?oh=a5789e981ec8fc5a9d080d821097cddc&oe=5592A8B8
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16:19.13DrodoEmpireHi everyone
16:19.36DrodoEmpire"Sometimes, you can be right for all the wrong reasons." - https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10343484_1542939602660450_2495862174503571326_n.jpg?oh=7ccdf6fa37fb7ec89338dff7935071b7&oe=555AEF80&__gda__=1431798480_b129e20f31dd2c9b79ba27c769a84f49
16:22.10ImperiosDrodoEmpire: >artistic
16:22.16Imperiosohgod
16:22.20DrodoEmpirehur
16:22.33ImperiosI'm trying to reconstruct her logic right now
16:26.23MonetTypo lol
16:28.03DrodoEmpireNah I think she meant "artistic".
16:28.24DrodoEmpireApparently, she also implied that most artists are gay. Dunno where that came from.
16:30.39GhelIt may not be true, but "artists = gay" is a stereotype that I imagine people are more likely to believe than "autistic = gay".
16:32.46DrodoEmpire^
16:41.04ImpyDroidDoes that mean our community is...
16:41.57ImpyDroidHachiman: http://youtu.be/PMJI1Dw83Hc
16:59.04The_Randomnessbbl
17:02.18Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10954555_539350732882795_646002748631306620_n.png?oh=bffd11fa8fcad477d2a1d752b1102f0b&oe=55580B97&__gda__=1432487180_008473edb0c7ff3d50e42b5d8151743f
17:03.54Wormy_awayPhil Mitchell with a beard
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17:33.08MonetAC Rogue seems a promising step forward
17:33.35MonetThe main character will be an assassin who will become a Templar
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17:34.26TekDroidHello
17:39.07HachimanI am surprised AC is not dead already
17:39.10HachimanThen again I am not
17:41.37MonetAfter a single bad game right after a good one?
17:42.00HachimanIt is highly repetitive
17:42.06HachimanAnd lacking in innovation
17:42.24MonetSo is CoD.
17:42.31MonetI don't see that going away anytime soon
17:42.39HachimanYes and everybody hates Call of Duty
17:42.44HachimanNaval combat was a good way to spice things up, it is just a shame they first implemented it into a terrible game
17:43.17MonetAnd the next game everyone got what they wanted
17:44.35MonetSuperman III may have stopped Superman films for a while, but there were still plenty of people reading the ocmics
17:45.15MonetAC has become a multimedia franchise which helps keep it alive after a bad game
17:48.16MonetAnd Rogue is going back to a mechanic epople love
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17:59.03MonetALthough from what I heard, bugs and pop-in textures aside, UNity did make some steps forward
17:59.07Monetgraphiswise
17:59.15MonetLike larger crowds and more free-flowing fabric
18:12.48ImperiosHachiman Monet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SrpARP_M0o
18:12.54ImperiosThe video was funny until the last bit
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19:11.28TekDroid~test
19:11.28infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
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19:49.39HachimanHello
19:49.58Wormy_awayHachi:  https://plus.google.com/b/100192282667005445773/105971588603580050326/photos/photo/6091508324087770610?pageId=100192282667005445773&pid=6091508324087770610&oid=105971588603580050326
19:51.11HachimanThey are all stuck with one another on a spaceship travelling far from any friends and family they may have
19:51.16HachimanI am not surprised hur
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19:51.36Wormy_awayIndeed
19:51.56Tek0516Hello
19:51.59Wormy_awayLol at Data
19:52.01Wormy_awayhi
19:55.40Wormy_awayMajor Grin's videos are quite amusing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPLXFLuhXlc
19:57.34HachimanWormy_away: Is there any comedic value to be found in Stephen's Baxter sci-fi work?
19:57.48HachimanLike anything that comes out as intentionally or unintentionally amusing or funny
19:58.10Wormy_awaythinks
19:58.21Wormy_awayYes
20:00.12Wormy_awayIn Ultima, when the Roman spaceship started to rotate to produce artificial gravity, the people inside the ship had to escape indoors, bvecause all the children and babies not used to the microgra\vity had puked and shat everywhere and it caused a rain of excrement and sick
20:00.40Wormy_awayIt has that sort of humour I guess
20:01.28HachimanOhgod
20:01.38HachimanThat sounds horrifying
20:01.46Tek0516O.o
20:05.12Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:195599 People might not have seen this
20:05.21HachimanIt's Featured Articles stuff
20:06.43Monet_I have but I'm not contributing. I may have stated before.
20:08.34HachimanI was not there to see you state that
20:09.38Monet_I'm talkign featured articles in general
20:09.47ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Captain_5cc9c8_1750680.jpg Pelagrios learns elemental magic
20:10.22OluapPlayerhur
20:10.35HachimanImperios: It is funny because alcohol is occasionally referred to as "fire water"
20:10.45HachimanMonet_: And why are you not contributing to Featured Articles
20:12.38Monet_Because it's gone back to being a popularity contest
20:12.40Monet_Again.
20:13.39Wormy_awayThe problem with creating a featured fictions specifically for new fiction is that it won't solve the problem though.
20:15.10HachimanI like to believe that Featured Articles is having problems because nobody is looking at other people's work outside of their friends' stuff and crap that directly involves them, including myself
20:15.29Wormy_awayI think its unavoidable that some fictions get read more than others, especially if we buy into the idea that the fiction universe now has lots of subcommunities,
20:16.29Wormy_awayThough really, I'm more likely to notice stuff by Hachi, Monet, Xho, Oluap etc. becasuse they realte more to my fiction and are more active and post it more often.  So other fictions do get blown off my radar.
20:17.11Wormy_awayI do try to look at new user stuff on occasion and look if its posted to me.
20:18.28Wormy_awayMonet  Maybe the best we can hope for is to try to get everyone to use Featured Fictions?
20:18.57Wormy_awayI'll be honest
20:19.09Wormy_awayI don't know anything about the Fantasyverse anymore
20:19.38Wormy_awayIts too much for me to handle reading both universes
20:20.16HachimanThat makes sense
20:20.43ImperiosThis rmeinds me
20:20.51ImperiosI haven't worked on fiction in weeks
20:21.27Wormy_awayAnyway I doubt its a popularity contest of users, but it probably is popularity of fiction because this whole fragmented thing going on with the fic universe being too big
20:22.54Tek0516I haven't been sure what to do it fiction, GXS seems to have stalled a bit and my main fiction doesn't have a very large role anyway.
20:26.17Wormy_awayI'd like to get the basll rollin with GXS
20:26.26Wormy_away*rolling
20:26.53Wormy_awayI hate to say it but my fiction days feel doomed once again
20:27.01Wormy_awayJust a total lack of motivation atm
20:27.25Wormy_awayYet at a time when I'm most excited to develop stories
20:27.59Tek0516Charles is away right now though. I'm working on the First Battle of Katar for now, maybe a political section set sometime between that and whenever the DCP try and attack it again.
20:29.18Tek0516If I get bored of GXS I have a plot I've been meaning to start for some time.
20:33.47Tek0516It's hard to portray the DCP nicely in the first half of the First Battle of Katar. You can't easily put a positive spin on a series of one sided invasion of small empires by a hyperpower. XD
20:35.10Wormy_awaylol
20:35.22Wormy_awayThey aren't nice
20:35.33Wormy_awayThey were nicer once
20:36.52Wormy_awayBut as I've revealed in DCP-V war and GXS they have become a runaway train and trapped in its static, rigid column, like in We are all Machines (which may have subconsciously inspired me)
20:38.01Wormy_awayThey have failed the Popperian criterion (as its called) too, for it cannot change itself without violence.  Thats where Lunarai comes in and I shouldn't apply any more plot reveals
20:38.18Tek0516lol
20:42.39Wormy_awayI was looking forward to Uncharted Expanse and might rescue elements, whether or not it becomes a backstory or smaller scale oner I don't know
20:43.05Wormy_awaybbl
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20:48.36Hachimanspu
20:48.54OluapPlayerspi
20:48.58XhoHi
20:50.41TechnobliteratorHachimanI am surprised AC is not dead already
20:50.46TechnobliteratorI echo this statement
20:50.55TechnobliteratorBlack Flag is where the series ends as far as I am concerned
20:50.56Technobliteratorhi Xho
20:51.00HachimanAye
20:51.15Hachimanolol
20:51.31HachimanSomebody cannot take opinions it appears
20:51.54TechnobliteratorI love Assassin's Creed, I do not love milked franchises
20:51.58Wormy_awayYet I know people who've really enjoyed Black Flag and beyond
20:52.06TechnobliteratorOh, I really enjoyed Black Flag
20:52.09TechnobliteratorIt is the best in the series
20:52.15HachimanAye Black Flag is great
20:52.15TechnobliteratorI don't want them to keep making more
20:52.21Wormy_awayI've been recommended Black Flag
20:52.28Wormy_awayOh I see
20:52.28HachimanBut the thing is now that they have made Black Flag
20:52.34HachimanIt's all downhill from here
20:52.46HachimanIt cannot be topped
20:52.50HachimanThis is the magnum opus
20:52.56MonetHachiman: I'm still here.
20:52.56TechnobliteratorPrecisely
20:53.13Wormy_awayYeah a lot of modern games have a lot of content but its widespread and shallow.  That is what I've heard about Destiny and the latest AC game
20:53.25TechnobliteratorTo me, console gaming is dead
20:53.27XhoI think until I feel 100% better I'm going to put everything I have on hiatus
20:53.30TechnobliteratorIt died with the end of the PS2
20:53.43TechnobliteratorThe PS3's era was the worst
20:54.01Technobliteratorand now, console gaming is on life support
20:54.36Wormy_awayI feel consoles have lost their uniqueness because of the way they have become allinOne entertainment devices
20:55.00Wormy_awayWell, my PC can do all that and better
20:55.17TechnobliteratorNo, they lost their uniqueness because they lost their games
20:56.00HachimanCareful, that sounds like game exclusivity promotion
20:56.07HachimanWhich I am not fond of hur
20:56.16Wormy_awayIndeed
20:56.32XhoI think most of this is coming from the fact that 2014 was a dreary year for games
20:56.50TechnobliteratorIt's not exclusivity, it's games at all
20:56.59Technobliteratorall the PS3 era was MUH REALISTIC SHOOTERS
20:57.01Technobliteratorfuck off
20:57.10OluapPlayerExclusivity is still awful and needs to stop right now
20:57.14Wormy_awayI also despise how web and entertainment are becoming less and less universal
20:57.29Wormy_awaybroken up by companies
20:57.35TechnobliteratorYou can understand why it exists though
20:57.36XhoAlso I don't think anyone saw my statement
20:57.44OluapPlayerDoesn't make it any better
20:57.48TechnobliteratorNo, I saw it
20:58.01Wormy_awayI did Xho and I agree
20:58.01TechnobliteratorI do not think 2014 was the problem, I didn't like the entire era
20:58.11OluapPlayerI saw it but I don't agree with it hur
20:58.12TechnobliteratorThe only thing the PS3 gave me was Uncharted
20:58.43XhoThis has been going on for almost five weeks now
20:58.43TechnobliteratorMGS4 and MGR, LBP, the first few AC games...
20:59.00Wormy_awayAnyway, games are bloody games as far I'm concerned.  I see a game I like the look of.  And get it cheap as possible, and play it]
20:59.52HachimanReminds me of JonTron's stance on GamerGate hur
21:00.18OluapPlayerDon't say things only one person will understand
21:00.50Technobliteratoris not sure who that is directed to
21:00.57OluapPlayerHachi
21:01.02Wormy_awayYeah
21:01.09TechnobliteratorI like JonTron though :o
21:01.18XhoI think gaming has began to wear thin though
21:01.40Wormy_awayNot the games!
21:01.53HachimanBasically neither pro-GamerGate or anti-GamerGate if anybody knows about the whole GamerGate incident and arguments
21:02.10HachimanThe entire thing regarding feminist criticism of the modern gaming industry
21:02.21XhoFeminazism
21:02.45MonetAll I hear on the internet from gamers post 2012/13 is complaining.
21:03.00Wormy_awayGamerGate upset me because I despise media bullies.  But other than that I don't hold it with too much importance to my life.  Just so long as media bullies don't take over the whole media
21:03.41TechnobliteratorThat is because there is a lot to complain about
21:03.50TechnobliteratorIt's gotten awful and stale
21:04.16Wormy_awayI shall play whatever game I want and drink their tears and laugh at their strange visions of changing society through a twitter war
21:05.12MonetTechnobliterator: It's because in reality humans don't like change. Series that have sold the most have generally kept the same and the majority of complainers on the situation are people who see gaming beyond early instalments.
21:05.53MonetThe consumer pool for FIFA and annual instalment sports games is larger than the pool of people who play the Half-life franchise.
21:06.43HachimanWhile I do think that there are far too many trends being followed in the modern gaming industry and that it could do with change - thus disagreeing with pro-GamerGate - I do not like the idea of imposing such amendments and supposedly amending stuff that does not need unnecessary correct - thus disagreeing with anti-GamerGate
21:07.29OluapPlayerI just want to play games where you kill giant monsters and stuff
21:10.35Wormy_awayI like the concept of augmented reality gaming
21:11.10Wormy_awayWhere you have people with phones and other devices enacting historical battles at historical places
21:11.49Wormy_awayIts a whole new dimension to explore
21:12.05XhoI am exceptionally bored with living now
21:19.41XhoI mean I was bored with life beforehand but now with this illness it's just a dreary continuation of nothing
21:20.44Tek0516One kind of game I've wanted to play is something that would allow me to play large-scale 3D set-piece space battles. Nothing where you have to build massive fleets 4X style, but just something with an option to create a fleet and launch it into battle against an AI.
21:20.57TechnobliteratorMonet, that's an absolute bullshit excuse, honestly
21:21.24TechnobliteratorAny look at the FF or MGS franchises - my two favourites - shows that you can have a franchise lasting ages with massive changes between each installment
21:21.40TechnobliteratorWhereas games nowadays are basically the same thing released every single year
21:22.24HachimanI was gonna say that Japanese franchises like to change a lot over the course their lifespan
21:22.29HachimanNot so much Western franchises
21:22.51TechnobliteratorEvery new console, a new 3D Mario game, and it's always massively different
21:23.16HachimanThat is not glorifying Japan, I just notice much more change in Japanese franchises than I do with Western ones from where they happened to start out
21:24.38TechnobliteratorI am glad Uncharted 4 will be the last in the Uncharted franchise
21:24.45TechnobliteratorBecause I can just tell that would continue to get stale
21:24.55TechnobliteratorUncharted 3 is essentially the same game as 2
21:25.03TechnobliteratorNot that I didn't love it
21:25.48XhoJapan is better than the west though
21:25.49Tek0516What does pose an issue with series though is no matter what happes you'll see large mumbers of people demanding both huges changes to formula, and also complaing about how terrible something they changed is.
21:26.01XhoSuicide rates and hentai perhaps not so good
21:26.10HachimanAlongside alcoholism
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21:26.17Tek0516Hello!
21:26.26XhoThat too
21:26.31MonetTechnobliterator: How many sales has MGS had comapred to the Mario or Fifa franchise?
21:26.36Charles_MurrayHeya!
21:26.58TechnobliteratorWhy compare it to Mario?
21:27.03TechnobliteratorMario changes a lot
21:27.16XhoBut yeah overall I find Japan better than the west
21:27.19XhoFood especially
21:27.20Xhonum num
21:27.26MonetTechnobliterator: Mari ois mixed I say
21:27.37TechnobliteratorMGS sells by millions
21:27.54MonetHow many millions
21:28.10TechnobliteratorMGS2 was one of the best selling games on the PS2
21:28.15TechnobliteratorAt least 7 million copies
21:28.25HachimanFifa is sold to the most common demographic though
21:28.32HachimanSports people
21:28.39TechnobliteratorMGS4 is the best selling third party exclusive on the PS3
21:28.42MonetHAchiman: That's my point.
21:29.06Technobliteratorbut I don't give a shit about how well a game sells
21:29.28TechnobliteratorI don't think I should be concerned if a game I like was bought by millions of other people or not if I like the game regardless
21:29.35HachimanAye
21:29.37XhoI think
21:29.41XhoThis discussion has no real goal
21:29.45HachimanGame sales =/= Game quality
21:29.50MonetCompanies measure by game sales.
21:30.09MonetGame sales are used as an indicator to how many people have been playing their game.
21:30.32Tek0516And unfortunately game sales also give the companies the money to develop new games.
21:30.59TechnobliteratorIn fact, some of the best games ever made have received lower sales than other
21:31.01Technobliterators
21:31.04XhoBeating a dead horse comes to mind after a certain point though
21:31.06TechnobliteratorMGS3 sold only 3.6 million copies
21:31.33TechnobliteratorYet Kojima himself acknowledges that it's one of his best-received games by the fans
21:32.07MonetBut this is WHY big-budget games are often so repetetive.
21:32.09TechnobliteratorFinal Fantasy IX is the same story, it only sold 5.6 million
21:32.14XhoRandom fact: "Kojima" means 'small island'
21:32.24Technobliteratorlol
21:32.42Technobliteratoroh, it sold 5.3 million
21:32.43HachimanShadow Moses is also a small island
21:32.49XhoI know I'm failing miserably at trying to remain relevant in this discussion but it won't stop me
21:32.51Technobliteratoryet it is the most popular game amongst the fans
21:33.11XhoHachiman: wat dat
21:33.19Tek0516I'm not even sure what we're arguing here
21:33.19TechnobliteratorShadow Moses is MGS1
21:33.22HachimanThe primary location of the first MGS game
21:33.24Technobliteratoralso appears in MGS4
21:33.25MonetThose executives in Activision and EA realise that they can make more money selling to a broader demogfraphic than being Innovative.
21:33.35Monetdemographic*
21:34.06XhoNo this argument basically sounds more like a voice of conflicting opinions
21:34.10XhoOh wait that is an argument
21:34.33XhoYeah I don't see what one is trying to achieve here
21:34.51MonetThe term "among fans" is ireelevant because its' dependant on the size of the fanbase.
21:34.56Monetirrelevant here*
21:35.40XhoCan we just all agree on the fact that the Soul series dead and buried and call it a day
21:37.46MonetIn contrast to MGS, Fifa 13 sold 14.5 million
21:38.51MonetOutselling MGS 2 and 3 combined
21:39.44HachimanAnd yet MGSV is still one of the highest-anticipated games of the year while the next FIFA is  not
21:40.01HachimanEven if FIFA might outsell MGS games
21:42.35Technobliteratoragain, I really don't care if FIFA sells more than MGS
21:42.38MonetThe fact it outsells is what matters on a corproate level and what encourages comapnies ot continue repeating formulae.
21:42.52Technobliteratorin fact I'm siding with Xho and no longer paying attention
21:43.24MonetThe only way things will change is if MGSV somehow outsells gaints like CoD and FIFA
21:44.04MonetThose who don't like it can happily keep to the indie scene.
21:46.59XhoBlah
21:47.17XhoI'm not even sure how this discussion even started
21:47.19XhoOr why
21:49.34XhoHachiman: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152817118988725&permPage=1 Muse be djentin'
21:53.33HachimanGeezush
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22:01.20Technobliteratorah, how things have changed
22:03.10HachimanYou say that
22:03.14HachimanThen ChanServ does that
22:03.41TechnobliteratorCHANSERV IS DOWN
22:03.42TechnobliteratorANARCHY
22:03.44TechnobliteratorANRACHYYYYYYY
22:03.50Technobliteratorspams every IRC channel
22:03.58Tek0516AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
22:04.22ImpyDroidV FOR VENDETTA
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22:04.53ImpyDroidTO VIOLENTLY VANQUISH THE VIRULENT VERMINOUS VIOLATORS OF VOLITION
22:04.57ImpyDroid*TIME TO
22:05.00ImpyDroid...oh fuk
22:10.32XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuxKCwd41VU
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22:12.14Suppy_Hello fellow kids
22:12.57Xhour a kid
22:13.11XhoJust a reflex I'm afraid
22:13.40DrodoEmpirehur
22:14.10Suppy_oh no
22:14.47XhoI'm not sure what defines as a 'kid' on this wiki
22:14.56XhoAnyone under 18 I guess
22:15.13Suppy_Just making a dank buscemi reference
22:15.39Xho>eyes
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22:16.19PandaMechanicusHi
22:17.03XhoMorning
22:17.45Suppy_Ayy
22:17.57DrodoEmpirelmao
22:18.59Suppy_hhoohohoho
22:21.45XhoWhere did ayy lmao even originate from
22:21.52Suppy_An alien picture
22:23.19Suppy_How are wiki things going?
22:23.32XhoI've decided to go on an indefinite hiatus
22:23.43XhoWell just until this illness I have blows over
22:23.55Suppy_What are you down with?
22:24.15XhoSome kind of virus I think
22:24.26XhoBeen ill for almost 5 weeks
22:24.56DrodoEmpireYou should probably see a doctor, assuming you haven't already
22:25.02DrodoEmpireJust saying. :L
22:25.04XhoI have hur
22:25.22DrodoEmpireRight, right
22:25.29DrodoEmpireAnd the best they could say was "Yeah you're sick"?
22:25.36XhoThis is the UK health system
22:25.44XhoIt's good but it is insanely lazy
22:25.53DrodoEmpireEh true
22:27.16DrodoEmpirehttps://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10959552_10153036105686605_456603090828022214_n.jpg?oh=c5d08670bf0f333b023532f8aa796096&oe=5594D650
22:28.10Xho"AIDS cure: pretend you're cured"
22:28.13XhoHeh
22:29.47Suppy_#africa
22:29.55XhoEither that or inject money
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22:32.46odellXho: http://i.imgur.com/MriMpqN.png
22:32.47Tek0516Hello
22:33.16Xhoodell: I don't get the joke
22:34.07odellStarted off with this. http://www.lurkmore.com/w/images/thumb/c/c3/Razor_MANGA_47.jpg/491px-Razor_MANGA_47.jpg
22:34.30odellAnd then this image popped up, allgendly in the comments, http://i.imgur.com/gwelzqF.png
22:34.46XhoHm
22:34.51XhoDon't think it's my kind of humour
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22:44.01The_RandomnessHello everyone
22:44.06PandaMechanicushi
22:44.08Suppy_Hey
22:44.12GhelHello.
22:47.08odellThen it appears to be that I'm one with darker, if not darkest humor.
22:48.09Wormy_awayI just came out to my parents that I'm a transhuman...ist.  It did not go down well.
22:48.16Suppy_ohohohohh
22:48.39Wormy_awayThey want grandchildren, not replicants.  I'm not good enough aparentely!
22:48.42The_Randomnesslol
22:49.21Wormy_awayI have a desire to  create copies of myself and turn the copies into constructors capable of exploring the universe
22:51.18Wormy_awaySociety doesn't understand cyberkin
22:51.32Wormy_awayYet they readily donate body organs
22:51.38Wormy_awayBut not brains!
22:51.44Wormy_awayBarbaric
22:53.18Hachiman"Cyberkin"
22:53.19HachimanMy sides
22:53.35The_RandomnessThat reminded me of strange things
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22:59.51OfficerJackalDrodoEmpire: Loud and clear!
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23:09.32DrodoEmpiretest
23:10.04Suppy_Works
23:10.12DrodoEmpireyey
23:19.10Wormy_awaySo in Ancient Egyptian mythology, a god with a giant penis gave birth to the universe after making pleasure with himself
23:19.19Suppy_Well that's interesting
23:19.27Tek0516O.o
23:19.28DrodoEmpireHuh.
23:19.31DrodoEmpireNice
23:19.42DrodoEmpire:P
23:19.56Wormy_awayPeople touch the hieroglyph to get the fertility of an "Arabian horse"
23:21.22Suppy_I don't get the obsession with fertility
23:21.39Suppy_I want to touch a hieroglyph that makes me infertile so I can have fun forever
23:22.04DrodoEmpirehur
23:22.32Tek0516But I can see why they don't mention the origin of the universe when we cover Egyptian mythology in elementary school. :P
23:23.03PandaMechanicusBecause most people see sex as something more than just fun
23:23.46Suppy_And maybe porn stars write books for fun but that's not always why we value them
23:25.51PandaMechanicusI'm not even going to respond to that beyond saying that what starting respect I had for you has been lost.
23:26.20XhoCan't say I've ever heard of that story
23:26.32Suppy_You realize I was being sarcastic
23:27.03XhoI mean what Wormy said
23:27.06DrodoEmpirePanda you should probably lighten up... :P
23:27.15PandaMechanicusText does not convey inflexion
23:28.23Suppy_Spot on.
23:28.47XhoUnless you mean the creation myth with Atum where he 'spat out' Shu and Tefnut
23:29.15Xhojust understood the reference
23:29.33Wormy_awayXho:  I'm Watching Walking the Nile
23:29.44XhoFair enough
23:30.50XhoThere was quite a few creation myths from Ancient Egypt I think
23:34.24XhoThough I think the Atum one was probably the most prominent since I can't remember the rest
23:40.07XhoEgypt's history is very difficult to make sense of since their writing system was inconsistent at best
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23:43.13PandaMechanicusI thought it was our understanding of their writing system
23:43.39PandaMechanicuslike for the longest time we thought the symbol for archery was the symbol for music
23:45.23Tek0516New map of the Delcath subsector: http://i.imgur.com/VFGKcrM.png
23:45.43XhoPandaMechanicus: Well it's both
23:46.44XhoEvery single word in Ancient Egyptian had at least one written variat
23:46.46Tek0516Farengeto's sectors are part of a sub-sector. Because screw it. :P
23:46.46Xhovariant
23:47.27DrodoEmpireNice map Tek
23:47.50XhoThey were also pretty lenient on using Old Kingdom Egyptian and New Kingdom Egyptian in the same script
23:48.36XhoIt would be like using Shakespearean English and Modern English together in one sentence
23:50.01XhoSo not was Ancient Egyptian impossible to translate up until they found the Rosetta Stone but the Ancient Egyptians tended not to think much of the accuracy of their writing
23:51.10Tek0516O.o Lol.
23:52.50XhoI have absolutely no clue how they managed to make sense of Hieratic
23:53.47Tek0516Egypt - Because screw everybody in every tike period.
23:53.49Tek0516*time
23:54.31Xhohttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Prisse_papyrus.svg Honestly what
23:54.49Wormy_awayyeah
23:54.50Tek0516O.o
23:55.18Wormy_awayI thought Chinese looked difficult
23:55.24Wormy_awayBut thaty
23:55.44Wormy_awayThey are nearly all different
23:55.50PandaMechanicusIt's like England back in Shakespear's time
23:56.01The_RandomnessI got a headache by looking at that
23:56.12PandaMechanicusthe spelling didn't matter as long as it sounded somewhat right
23:56.17Tek0516How is it that they managed to make a language so impossible to translate and so unrelated to anything else. XD
23:56.19XhoPretty much
23:57.07PandaMechanicusactually this reminded me of something I heard about viking rune findings
23:57.51PandaMechanicusapparently most of them are just random shit like "I sold two cows for five chickens," even this one really big one that a village used to think was some sort of ancient religious site was actually just a recording of trade
23:58.03Xhohur
23:58.16Tek0516lol
23:58.33XhoI'm not so sure where Ancient Egyptian formed from
23:58.49PandaMechanicusoh, and the Sagas were all written ~500 years after the vikings died out, by christian monks
23:59.18XhoI think it was basically a language that just formed and was as old as Proto-Indo-European

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