IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150205

00:00.15XhoNu - computing power in this phone is more than I can compute pain to your face
00:00.17TekPCFictionverse is in an age where most empires could feasibly build sentient AIs. :P
00:00.22DrodoEmpire^
00:00.25GD12yes
00:00.27GD12but rule of cool
00:00.53XhoImagine the computing power behind an Agent
00:01.08TekPCBah, trying to throw my SE screenshots in an album but wi-fi is slow. -.-
00:01.10GD12If its a key point for fiction that Kicathian is hard to translate I don't see any reason to force NLP and AI down anyones rectum
00:01.24XhoNLP?
00:01.29GD12natural language processing
00:01.46GD12so computers understanding text and stuff
00:01.54GD12and speech etc
00:01.58XhoKicathian isn't impossible to translate, I'd imagine a translator could pick up the gist of it though uneducated individuals might think of it as gibberish
00:02.06GD12TekDroid : There is a student led class at my uni called The Theory of Fanfiction
00:02.11XhoIt would come out as broken
00:02.19TekPCGiven enough time and processing power there's no such thing as a  language that can't be translated. :P
00:02.28XhoTrue
00:02.48GD12I think the fundamental difficulty right now is algorithmic
00:02.48Wormy_Drodo, TekPC:  Remember this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gnHWuEcY3w
00:02.53GD12but thats besides the point
00:02.55XhoThough since the Kicath are proficient in various other languages I can't imagine it being of importance that foreigners would want to understand Kicathian
00:03.06TekPCis still in that lecture with no headphones. >.>
00:03.19GD12I'd assume that hard CS problems now would be as easy as fibonacci in the first gig
00:03.29MonetMost contemporary Rl computers require something as simple as the word "dog" to be translated into 24-digit binary.
00:04.01GD12I'd assume the iphone of a ficverse denizen would easily have the combined computing power of the world today
00:04.14TekPChttps://imgur.com/a/rNxrj So this is a bunch of SE planets I might use in fiction (other than the neutron star I threw in by accident. :P)
00:04.20XhoKicathian computational power in general though, it sort of spills into clarketech
00:04.21GD12Thats just given Moore's law, to say nothing of algorithmic advances
00:04.25GD12aye
00:04.29GD12well kicath have hypercomputation
00:04.43Wormy_TekPC:  Its the one with the sweeping sound in the beginning followed by a rising tone and drum beats at the end
00:04.51GD12i think thats classified as clarketech
00:04.54MonetGD12: Fictionverse powers might need SI units after zotta lol
00:04.59GD12lol yeah
00:05.18GD12An iPhone has more computational power than the guidance systems used for Cold War ICBMS iirc
00:05.22Wormy_What I love about SE is when all the potentialities roll together and you get wacky emergence
00:05.22XhoI can sort of shrug it off saying that they're genetically linked to a god-race so they possibly have mental capabilities beyond that of most when thinking at their hardest
00:05.51GD12Well there are different Kicathian variants iirc
00:06.09GD12so you can say that the most special/rare among them are capable of unique scientific breakthroughs
00:06.24XhoPossibly but such variants are rare
00:06.41XhoThere's no named Alpha/Sampi Kicath in fiction
00:06.48GD12so are the einsteins of the world
00:07.06TekPCWormy_: Some of those rare things that just combine into something unexpected... You never know what to expect. XD
00:07.48XhoMost of the Kicath's unique characteristics certainly revolve around computation though
00:07.56XhoHypercomputers and Agents mainly
00:08.03Wormy_Like, today I found a tidally docked oceana.  The temperate line had a fractal coastline of ice.  I also found a gas giant with a double shadow cast from its moons
00:08.05GD12XHo : I don't recall Sampi being a letter in the Greek Alphabet?
00:08.24GD12Agents are mentally insane and snarky computers :)
00:08.24XhoIt's an archaic letter
00:08.26GD12i see
00:08.55XhoI once had the thought of the next-gen Agents all being Kicathian AI governed by a series of hypercomputers
00:09.00XhoBut that's actually overkill
00:09.04TekPCAlso one really awesome things is that the way star are generated you can actually share the names of a star and other people can find it too.
00:10.00TekPCFor instance, RS 8409-2285-9-90544737-32 would take you to that planet in a nebula I shared earlier.
00:10.04XhoThey could certainly construct an AI with Agent-level martial capabilities, Agent IVs are teetering into that thought process
00:10.05Wormy_I'll share some of my systems if you like
00:10.32Wormy_I'll pastie some good ones tomorrow maybe
00:10.33DrodoEmpirehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhengtong_Emperor - TekPC I was bored so I found the EUIV ruler for Ming at 1444
00:11.09DrodoEmpirehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esen_Taishi - Also the really great general the Oirats get at 1444
00:11.16MonetXho: Maybe one of the comapnies is a cybernetics firm?
00:11.23XhoThat's what I was thinking
00:11.29XhoCyberpunk and cybernetics and whatnot
00:11.30TekPCI have a list of about 3 dozen systems with a habtable or nearly habitable world I might use with fiction, all located roughly near the Katar Sector. XD
00:11.43XhoI'm not sure whether the Kicath would hybridise organic thought processes with artificial intelligences though
00:12.02XhoIf they did it would explain Nu in a sense
00:12.39TekPCYou could have them try that with Nu only to have them stop after that went horribly wrong/right. :P
00:12.57XhoThe Kicath's idea of 'right' is our idea of 'wrong' usually
00:13.13MonetWell dictionary-wise cybernetics is the exporation of regulatory processes and the possibilities to them
00:13.31XhoIf they could turn Nu into the Gigaquadrant's ultimate killing machine they would without hesitation
00:13.31Wormy_Tek:  How to I find a shared planet?  Do I need to insert it into a data file because SE search couldn't find it
00:13.33MonetSo it's not just machine-organic interfacing
00:14.31TekPCWormy_: Might have formatted it wrong, just type it into the normal F3 search usually. You have to type the whole thing and hit enter, doesn't show up on list.
00:14.41XhoThe Kicath do love their cybernetics though
00:15.01Wormy_object not found
00:15.21TekPCLet's try this then. RS 8409-2285-5-7164-41
00:16.38TekPCI also had found a system with 13 life planets, 2 of them warm terras with multicellular life. :D
00:16.47Wormy_Hm, took me two a double binary
00:16.59MonetXho: Maybe the firm makes civilian augmentations?
00:17.06XhoLikely
00:17.16TekPCYeah, that one should be a binary with a warm oceania in it?
00:17.20XhoAugmentations in the Kicath race is basically pop-culture
00:18.35Wormy_There is one orbiting a gas giant
00:18.37TekPCFarengeto also shares a strong embrace on augmentation. They have a neural implant that is basically what cell phones are to us. :P
00:19.17TekPCHm... Planet A3 should be a Warm Oceania in that one.
00:19.27MonetSo far the company list contains 3 heavy manufacturing conglomorates, one energy firm and one biotech corporation.
00:20.30Wormy_Nevermind
00:21.16TekPCRS 8409-2175-7-900978-26 This was a neat find, planet A4 is a temperate Terra with ~1g gravity and ~1atm atmosphere. :O
00:21.50XhoBeing a relatively ancient culture the Kicath's advances in cybernetics would be quite heavy
00:21.58TekPCHuman colonists would need to increase the greenhouse effect though, it's a bit cold. XD
00:22.50MonetXho: Given the age of the enclave perhaps said firm was a key contributor to Imperial bionics advances?
00:23.02XhoMaybe
00:23.45XhoI probably couldn't even fathom the extents of advancement a 170,000 year old civilisation could have done in that field, let alone anything more ancient
00:24.59MonetMost DI civilian, and some military augmentations I figure are perhaps visibly indistinguishable from organic tissue.
00:25.00TekPCAfter a few thousand years the difference between biological and technological in those augmentation systems is probably entirely indistinguishable.
00:25.21MonetTekPC: Took the words right out of my mouth :)
00:25.44XhoMakes me wonder why the Agents appear mechanical, possibly for the sake aesthetics
00:25.48TekPCWouldn't surprise me if the DI or Kicath could make an entity that looks entirely normal but is entirely augmented.
00:26.08MonetTekPC: I might have mentioned androids in passing somewhere
00:26.16XhoIn theory they could do that with an Agent if they so wished
00:26.35MonetIt would help them a lot to blend in
00:26.39TekPCThe mechanical aestethic probably adds to intimidation.
00:26.41TekPCgtg
00:26.52XhoAgents generally do blend in with society when not working
00:27.15MonetTek's right, aesthetic is a secondary concern for military eqiopment
00:27.34MonetAlthough it does help to sell the product
00:27.53XhoCivilian cybernetics probably come in multiple variants for fashion
00:28.38XhoKicath have odd inclinations for appearance
00:29.25Monet"Introducing Jean-Claude Cosmier's new summer arm range."
00:29.33XhoI don't see what purpose the Kicath would have for androids
00:29.46XhoNot within society anyway
00:30.24XhoThe general approach to biotechnology in Kicathian culture renders most Kicath close to androids anyway
00:30.28*** join/#sporewiki GD12 (427591e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.117.145.231)
00:30.37GD12nghtastic
00:30.37MonetAndroids are good for supplimanting security forces.
00:30.39GD12fire alarm
00:30.48XhoTrue
00:30.50GD12Are we talking about synthetics in fictional militarys?
00:30.54XhoYeaj
00:30.54GD12*militaries even
00:30.56XhoYeah even
00:30.57GD12I c
00:31.05XhoKicathian android
00:31.15XhoActually less machine like than a normal Kicath
00:31.43GD12Due to my love affair with computers the majority of the Dominatus (or former if this is post 2795) is synthetic lol
00:32.20XhoThe cognitive branch of biotechnology for Kicath must be interesting
00:32.40GD12you mean biotechnology for enhancing the brain?
00:32.46XhoYeah
00:32.59GD12Yeah
00:33.33XhoI'd imagine for the sake of civility that such things aren't available to the common public
00:33.52GD12yeah,
00:33.58GD12why give the proles the means to rebel
00:34.04MonetIt could depend on the implant.
00:34.16XhoThere's also the ploy with essence and that in certain individuals grants them certain enhanced functions
00:34.45GD12that could be possible
00:34.46Xhoi.e. some Kicath have pre-cognitive abilities or are unnaturally perceptive
00:34.53GD12mixing essence and computation sounds quite original
00:35.06XhoWell if anything it's to steer clear of mixing those two
00:35.18XhoEspecially in Kicath who are ill tempered at the best of times
00:35.29GD12i c
00:35.36MonetMaybe such tech could be exported though?
00:35.54XhoAfter certain agreements yeah
00:35.56MonetEssence-users are commonplace in a good deal of Andromeda.
00:36.17MonetSOme of them, or perhaps most of them ,could have unlocked the potential though enhancement
00:36.18XhoKicath don't tend to physically show essence powers however
00:36.32XhoThat was the intention behind the most recent incarnation of Agent IVs
00:36.45GD12Kinda like mass effect i guess (with biotic implants)
00:37.00XhoThe most recent types are enhanced to control essence
00:37.27XhoThose that are naturally proficient in essence as a Kicath usually either show it minimally or are like Kithworto
00:38.07GD12No middle ground lol
00:38.17GD12that went from 0 to Infinity really quickly
00:38.22XhoWell Kilazaena is sort of a middle ground
00:39.10XhoShe's powerful though even against Kithworto when his essence potential was relatively weak she wouldn't stand a chance
00:39.32XhoThen again Kithworto is the definition of god mode
00:39.55GD12God is the definition of Kithworto mode i think you mean
00:40.09Xhohur
00:41.06XhoIf every Kicath had some sort of essence-enhancement tech we'd probably be suffering the next mad phase
00:41.22MonetGood thing 85% of the DI's population isn't harbouring Death Energy.
00:41.25GD12bar brawl
00:41.27GD12universe explodes
00:41.36XhoIt kind of makes me wonder how to explain essence
00:41.59GD12yeah, what is the explanation for it? Its a really cool concept but I never got what exactly it was
00:42.36GD12or i guess what makes an individual more powerful at essence or something like that
00:42.37Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Essence it's on this page
00:43.10XhoThe main gist of it sounds like hyperspatial manipulation
00:43.18Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Essence_Theory_Deciphered I had my own go at it
00:44.29MonetBut yes, hyperspacial manipulation is a good part of the current idea
00:44.57XhoIt originally just started out as some form of magic
00:45.25XhoThough that idea couldn't really thrive as there was that phase where the Fictionverse underwent lots of changes
00:45.26GD12then science attacked?
00:45.30XhoYeah
00:46.30XhoI think much of its in-universe explanation is depicted as something magical as I'd assume its an extremely ancient practice beyond what even 29th century sciences can emulate
00:47.00GD12aye
00:47.02MonetWe kinda explained it with quantum tunneling.
00:47.20XhoChaos Energy I tend to think of not as an essence mostly
00:47.52XhoMore like an irrevocable and unpredictable movement that the Xhodocto tend to send our way
00:47.58DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Halifaxia - Rewrote several unit descriptions; Added some artillery
00:48.15GD12Though if there is a science attached, I suppose it would theoretically be possible to create synthetic essence weapons/users
00:48.19XhoDefinitely
00:48.30XhoI think synthetic essences have been explored
00:49.13XhoDrodoEmpire: By the looks of things that's the most technologically advanced civilisation on Koldenwelt
00:49.20XhoBar Ar-Klith I guess
00:49.22DrodoEmpireNot a chance. :P
00:49.28DrodoEmpireYeah, Ar-Klith
00:49.42GD12If no one minds, I'm going to have a crack at synthetic essence people/ weapons
00:49.43DrodoEmpireThey use gunpowder but this is tempered by a tiny population/territory
00:50.27XhoGD12: Well it can work so we can't stop you
00:50.33DrodoEmpirePlus they use matchlock arquebuses; Only useful in massed fire and even then they're sorta impotent
00:50.54DrodoEmpireNot rifles or even flintlock muskets
00:51.53MonetThe arquebus: Firing for mthe hip wo't affect your accuracy.
00:51.57DrodoEmpirehur
00:52.00DrodoEmpireBasically though
00:52.23DrodoEmpireThey where noisemakers beyond fifty paces. :P Even within those fifty paces its a crapshoot
00:52.49XhoI'm not so sure what the technological peak of Koldenwelt ever has been
00:53.23DrodoEmpireSo they need massed volley fire and things like kneel fire to actually make them practical for the battlefield; Naturally this is what the halifaxians focus on
00:53.24XhoSolely technological that is
00:53.28DrodoEmpireDefensively
00:53.34DrodoEmpire*Defensive tactics
00:53.36DrodoEmpire>.<
00:53.43DrodoEmpireNot sure
00:53.48XhoSome of my fiction technologically overlaps even the 21st century though it's through magical enhancement
00:54.05XhoSo it's not really technological
00:54.22DrodoEmpireKoldenwelt seems to a have a massive recorded history; In that time several 21st-century level civilizations could've come and gone really
00:55.03XhoThe Orichalcum Elves have been shown to have created sophisticated automatons and networks of computers though most of it was powered by magical cores and matrices
00:55.10DrodoEmpireAh, right
00:55.29XhoI don't think any civilisation has actually harnessed scientific advancements yet
00:55.36XhoAs in Industrial Revolution-level
00:55.45MonetThe study of magic could be considered a science
00:55.52DrodoEmpireAr-Klith maybe?
00:56.10XhoAr-Klith are implied to be in the middle of the Industrial Revolution I think
00:56.23DrodoEmpireHalifaxia is at *least* two-hundred years off from the Industrial Revolution seeing as they use 1500's-1600's yech
00:56.25DrodoEmpire*tech
00:56.40DrodoEmpirePike squares and matchlock weapons on land, compasses and caravels at sea
00:57.16XhoThe Dalmiric Kingdom...not so sure
00:57.40*** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@24.114.105.61)
00:57.42TekDroidHello
00:57.51DrodoEmpireThey'd be utterly rekt by Industrial forces. :P Its hard to overstate how important rifling was to firearm effectiveness and warfare in general
00:58.00TekDroid^
00:58.01DrodoEmpireOr the breechloading mechanism
00:58.26XhoNdrhthryr was made from Dalmiric technology in which he has his abilities, though once again some kind of magic courses through his body
00:58.52DrodoEmpireSeeing as with rifling you're going from 50 m maximum to more like 600 m, and with a breechloading mechanism you're going from a 30 second to a minute process of reloading, to more like six seconds
00:59.11XhoI'd imagine the Dalmiric Kingdom probably equate somewhere between 1300 - 1500
00:59.21DrodoEmpire1300 to 1500 AD?
00:59.25XhoYeah
00:59.26TekDroidMagic does change things when you talk guns though, how much does depend on amount of magic and gun tech though. :P
00:59.27DrodoEmpireAh
00:59.35DrodoEmpireRight
01:00.15XhoThey don't really stand as a superpower on Koldenwelt since the Empire of Man is probably the most powerful civilisation on Koldenwelt
01:00.24DrodoEmpireI know a demonistration I saw at the Halifax Citadel a reenactor used an Enfield Breechloading rifle and fired off six shots in twenty seconds. So much for muskets
01:00.38GD12Would people say the girl from the Grude is extremely scary?
01:00.51GD12*grude even
01:00.55GD12*grudge
01:00.58DrodoEmpirehur
01:01.30TekDroidSeveral shots a minutes is better than several minutes every shot. :P
01:01.37DrodoEmpirehur
01:01.39DrodoEmpireyeah
01:02.06DrodoEmpireAr-Klith or any other industrial civilization possesses an extreme advantage militarily. :P
01:02.06TekDroidEspecially when those several shots are still drastically more accurate. :P
01:02.10DrodoEmpire^
01:02.46MonetGood thing Ar-Klith is quite reclusive then
01:02.50XhoAr-Klith technologically dominates most or all of Koldenwelt
01:02.51DrodoEmpireHonestly in a completely realistic situation; A company of Ar-Klith soldiers could likely hold off thousands of EoM troops indefinitely
01:03.31XhoMagically speaking, magical potential on Koldenwelt destroys technological potential a thousandfold
01:03.43TekDroidMagic can alter things, but you have assumr the limited number of magical entities can avoid stray bullets. :P
01:03.52DrodoEmpireThis is assuming they don't have magic support
01:03.57XhoEoM don't
01:04.06XhoThey abstain from magic since humans are adverse to magic
01:04.09MonetThe Ar-Klith have mechanical golems I think
01:04.29XhoI'm not sure where the Shiarchon equate technologically
01:04.47GD12Don't the Shiarchon have guns?
01:04.47MonetSo essentially the only thing stoppeing the Klaxxa fro mtaking over the whole world by force of arms is they're all puntable physically, and os choose not to.
01:04.51GD12I recall them being advanced
01:04.55XhoThat was retconned out
01:05.12XhoThe Shiarchon are technologically speaking the same as they would have been as the Orichalcum Elves
01:05.23XhoThough their practices were scarce
01:05.47XhoSo we're probably looking at 1100 AD at the most
01:06.05XhoThough there's a lot to say on their endeavours on a magical front
01:06.37DrodoEmpireFrom what I can tell the Ar-Klith easily have a technological level of the 1880's-early 1900's
01:07.03GD12Whats a good name for a female monster?
01:07.13XhoAny female name, women ARE monsters
01:07.13GD12which is creepy but not physically powerful
01:07.20DrodoEmpirehur
01:07.21GD12kek
01:08.03DrodoEmpireAnyway about the Halifaxian Military, I think the two scariest parts of their ground military are their pikes and their culverins
01:08.06GD12"Jane Doe"
01:08.13XhoThe Orichalcum Elves have outliers in their technology which would put them past Ar-Klith though one wouldn't have seen an automaton walking through the streets
01:08.21Xhohad*
01:08.31GD12Culverins shooting out giant pikes
01:08.35DrodoEmpirehur
01:08.43DrodoEmpireMuskets are great, but disciplined infantry can keep their cool under fire
01:08.59DrodoEmpireBut running facefirst into a pike wall *will* kill you. :P
01:09.33DrodoEmpireAnd culverins can shoot a shotgun-blast of nails, broken glass, and other nasties at a flat trajectory towards charging enemies which is a terrifying thought
01:09.48TekDroidUnless you have a longer pike than them when you charge. :P
01:09.59DrodoEmpireBefore having pikemen and musketmen form in front of it to block off the charging enemies
01:10.52XhoTechnology isn't really an explored concept much on Koldenwelt
01:11.02GD12Magic is too much of a magic bullet
01:11.04GD12so to speak
01:11.15XhoMost civilisations still haven't developed a functioning rifle yet
01:11.18DrodoEmpireProbably because magic's seen as a more profitable alternative in most regions
01:11.41MonetThis all makes me wonder where the Draonoggr come
01:11.44XhoThe most powerful civilisations before 15,000 BNA were probably twice as advanced as Ar-Klith
01:12.26DrodoEmpireJeez
01:12.46MonetFor the most part I think I've hinted the Draonoggr are on par with the 1200/1300s in terms of weaponry
01:13.03XhoThere weren't many mind you
01:14.01MonetAlthough Orocathrheim has the advantage of a convenient source of magma
01:14.40XhoI can't really describe the Shiarchon's military might because much of it comes from the fact that the Shiarchon are mostly a 5 million - 8 million strong force of abominations
01:15.25DrodoEmpireHalifaxian pikemen - Come at me bro
01:15.29XhoThough the War for the Eye suggests that that the Shiarchon are able to hold their own against most civilisations on Koldenwelt combined
01:16.06XhoThough it was a pyrrhic victory for the guys who weren't the Shiarchon
01:16.15MonetSo the Draokorumnoggr have access to something like a blast fornace
01:16.35MonetOr something vaguely close
01:16.52XhoThey may have some kind of derived style of Sun Forge
01:18.13XhoGod knows what kind of horror the Shiarchon use to forge darkstone weapons
01:18.25MonetI imagine post-Imperium the Draonoggr are one of Koldwnwelt's best sources of steel and other alloys.
01:19.55XhoI'd imagine metallurgy is a speciality of theirs
01:20.10GD12gtg
01:20.13MonetSame.
01:20.25XhoYeah I'm fekking tired now
01:20.41MonetIt's probably one of the lcosest things to refined Oriachalcum in the modern world
01:21.19XhoThe Orichalcum Elves also used another refined material called Aurelian Platinum
01:21.29MonetSOunds rare
01:21.49XhoIt came in abundance in the right places though its use was to be constructed to repel darkstone weapons
01:22.02XhoUnlike darkstone it can still break under physical damage though
01:22.39MonetGiven Orocathrheim's location, is it possible it's one of the few places in the world that has access to Orichalcum ore? Given it's depth and vicinity to the mantle and all
01:22.45XhoLikely
01:23.17XhoAurelian Platinum was also able to be enchanted with sun magic so it could actually overpower darkstone in most cases
01:23.58XhoDarkstone tends to vary in strength due to what enchantments it may or may not have
01:24.22XhoMostly the enchantments are actually entrapped souls used to empower the sword
01:24.44MonetSo essentially I made a race of dragons that act a lot like dwarves
01:24.55XhoDragon dwarves that aren't dwarves
01:25.06MonetVery big dwarves
01:25.22MonetPLus they use runic magic
01:26.01XhoRunic magic isn't common as far as I can tell
01:26.44MonetIt's not as practical as more common practices since it involces a form of calligraphy
01:26.50XhoThe only instance I have is the inscribed text on Kinmo's sword
01:28.10MonetThe three instances of runic magic being performed that I can recall are the curse on the blade Archavior was trapped in, the golems on that folating island and the teleport wards Archavior used to summon an army of helpers t osteal Orichalcum elf treasure
01:28.18Monetdraonoggr runic*
01:28.49MonetThere ma have been runic wards to kee pthe ancient draonoggr in hibernation
01:29.08XhoPelagrios - u dragons and ur word magic
01:29.33XhoAnyway I must be going to sleep now
01:31.23MonetGoodnight
01:32.18XhoWell that was unexpected
01:47.33TekDroidDrodoEmpire: I noticed something really interesting on the CKII menu. When you click on a character it plays a note, which when put together sound a lot like part of the CKII menu theme...
01:47.48DrodoEmpireHUh
01:47.50DrodoEmpireNice
01:48.10TekDroidAt least, I'm 90% certain it is. XD
01:59.33TekDroidOkay, it definitely is after throwing the notes in a sound editor. :P
02:08.03DrodoEmpireCool
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02:31.52Quark8Hello.
02:44.07TekDroidHello
02:47.32Vincent20100Hey!
02:49.59Vincent20100~seen Cyrannian
02:50.04infobotcyrannian <562d6746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.45.103.70> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 3d 2h 12m 54s ago, saying: 'Bye'.
02:54.41OfficerJackalHe was actually here earlier today. :/
02:54.41OfficerJackalInfobot dum.
02:54.41OfficerJackalslaps Infobot.
02:56.16Vincent20100I feel like playing SW: Empire at War in multi
02:58.24Vincent20100Also feeling like to play new games...
02:58.34Vincent20100Wallet: I don't so.
03:01.37Vincent20100It would also require a better PC...
03:14.26TekDroid...well that CKII game went well. >.<
03:14.49TekDroidGame over in less than 2 years.
03:15.44DrodoEmpireolol
03:17.18TekDroidStarted as Kiev in 867, immediately declared war on neighbour. Suddenly I get a subjugation war declared on me by Ryazan (other side of Ruthenia >.<) which I eventually lose. >.<
03:17.27DrodoEmpireOuch
03:19.40TekDroidOkay then, who to try now? XD
03:21.41TekDroidThere's a Swedish count in 867 who's dynasty name is Borg. XD
03:22.01DrodoEmpirelul
03:22.03DrodoEmpire*whose
03:22.05DrodoEmpire>:3
03:23.13TekDroidI honestly have no idea who to play as. :/
03:27.10Quark8Borg
03:30.27Vincent20100Georgia
03:30.51Vincent20100Try to form an early USSR as Georgia, with your first character named Joseph Stalin ^^
03:31.01Vincent20100*KSSR
03:32.26Vincent20100OrTekDroid: Or try to play as a Principality (empire-tier republic)
03:32.36Vincent20100It's lot harder than feudal
03:32.54Vincent20100But if managedcorrectly, you can turn your house estate into a very powerful tool
03:33.51Vincent20100~seen Cyrannian_
03:33.52infobotcyrannian_ <562d6746@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.45.103.70> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 27d 2h 10m 30s ago, saying: 'Laters'.
03:35.06Quark8night
03:35.15Vincent20100++
03:37.05Vincent20100You could also try to go for a Long Campaign, starting in CK2, converting to EU4 and then to Vicky 2
03:37.56Vincent20100But to do that, the best is to play as a non-pagan (musulim or christian) republic to prevent  blobing
03:43.04Vincent20100But I would really try out the Georgian thingy. It is a relatively strong start/position, they are orthodox (which is very interesting) and are conviniently located to fight the Hordes, who will be depleted of a lot of troops once they reach you.
03:54.41TekDroidI had 10k troops and lost to an army half my size. >.<
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05:35.30TekDroidWell this Georgia game is going badly now. XF
05:44.42TekDroidrelatice declared holy war, we both got rekt and then my half-brother started a civil war to make himself king. >.<
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11:16.49Wormy_Hi
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14:18.04Vincent20100test
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14:25.14GhelaeHello.
14:30.02Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10968310_618868864910814_7623136344526803382_n.jpg?oh=af0e00a908fcbafc4dc2c80ff7b9e058&oe=555EE14F
14:30.12Technobliteratorhey ghel
14:30.13TechnobliteratorFeatuted creations have returned in Spore?...Curious.
14:30.22Technobliteratormaaaaaybe EA are looking at Spore as something that could make them money again? ?_?
14:31.08Technobliteratorhm, I doubt it'll be an expansion, probably a new game
14:31.22TechnobliteratorSpore 2: Revenge of the Grox
14:35.05Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1509774_616805758450458_5938183978509412197_n.jpg?oh=823141534042ff98702679ba514abd61&oe=5555E3F2&__gda__=1432137423_8f1675d03d2ef10c71b129dde548f132
14:35.59Vincent20100I'm down for SPore 2
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14:39.29Technobliteratorwell, I can't see why else they'd get their spore people working again out of nowhere if they're not doing something with Spore
14:39.32Technobliteratorhey Xho
14:42.31Technobliteratorwb
14:42.35HachimanHai
14:42.41OluapWorkerdai
14:43.36Technobliteratoroh, Will Wright can't be involved
14:43.47OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tales_of_Champions#Asemath:_The_Fall_of_Growlthal I did a thing
14:44.07Technobliteratorit will be either Maxis or some other random EA team
14:44.47TechnobliteratorI guess they got no real projects now Sims 4 and SimCity are done unless they want to make a new SimCity that doesn't suck this time
14:45.09Technobliteratorso Spore 2 makes some sense
14:45.42Xhofeeds OluapWorker with a peanut
14:45.45Xhogud ups
14:45.52Technobliteratoror some of their staff were just really bored and wanted to do featured creations again
14:45.56Technobliteratorwho knows?
14:45.58OluapWorkerhow bout feedbak
14:46.09Xhoi just got heer gimme a dam minut
14:48.38Xho"Asemath - Your insignificance is that insulting, pig dog."              Asemath - SCHWEINHUND
14:49.28HachimanNice, Asemath is a douchebag hur
14:49.40HachimanHe fits the trope of being a dragon nicelt
14:49.43Hachimannicely*
14:50.46XhoSo what exactly makes a Sand Drake want to follow Vixaatus or Asemath
14:52.51OluapWorkerSand Drakes are, by nature, closer to Asemath
14:53.17OluapWorkerThe ones who follow Vixaatus are the ones who are deliberately trying to become less aggressive
14:53.50XhoSand Drake - eet sand or not to eet sand         dat is da question
14:54.32OluapWorkerYou still eet sand under Asemath, you just do it angrily
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14:54.45XhoTechnobliterator: What's the reason behind users removing content from their common.css
14:55.02TechnobliteratorThe top navigation has changed
14:55.25TechnobliteratorIt's much less obnoxious now, so people don't really need it anymore
14:55.42OluapWorkerYou can`t go to your userpage or access new messages on your wall if you have that code
14:55.53OluapWorkerThat`s why I removed it
14:56.23HachimanSame
14:56.27Technobliteratoroh, that's why?
14:56.35Technobliteratorhuh, odd
14:56.37XhoI still can't access it anyway
14:56.46OluapWorkerRegarding leadership, it`s less of "Asemath rules over them" and more of "Asemath is telling them to follow him and no one would dare to say no to him"
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14:56.54Wormy_hi
14:56.56HachimanRestart your browser
14:56.56OluapWorkerMost of the time, Sand Drakes live independently
14:57.06TechnobliteratorNo, ctrl+F5
14:57.11ImperiosOluapWorker: Angry Birds Sand Drake
14:57.13TechnobliteratorHard refresh
14:57.17OluapWorkerDumb
14:57.19XhoEw now it's ugly and white
14:57.21XhoWhite is ugly
14:57.23XhoWHITE PEOPLE ARE UGLY
14:57.28Technobliteratorlolz
14:57.43Wormy_chek ur privlige
14:58.36ImperiosXho: YOU'RE HALF-UGLY
14:58.45ImperiosAND TECHNICALLY MORE THAN HALF-UGLY BECAUSE INDO-ARYANS
14:58.50XhoI'm actually closer to yellow than white
14:59.22XhoXHO DOESN'T LIKE THE WHITE BAR
14:59.25TechnobliteratorIf people want an equivalent of that old one compatible with the new navigation, or to change its color, I can do both of those things
14:59.40XhoIt's like anti KKK
14:59.41ImperiosOluapWorker: seriously though, I like Asemath's character
14:59.43XhoKFC I guess
14:59.57TechnobliteratorWhen I get home anyway
15:00.00Technobliteratorbbl
15:00.02ImperiosHe's more or less a call back to the classic draconic archetype, Beowulf-style
15:00.17HachimanAye or Smaug
15:00.45Wormy_10 Most Amazing LEGO Creations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8EdzF8p2k
15:01.10OluapWorkerNever seen either
15:02.31XhoSmaug is the dragon from The Hobbit
15:02.57XhoArchetypal dragon basically since he lives on top of a horde under a mountain
15:03.21OluapWorkerI know who he is but I`ve never seen/read The Hobbit
15:03.40XhoOh
15:03.51XhoWell Tolkien's style of writing is heavy
15:03.59XhoExtremely heavy
15:04.24ImperiosI lost my shit at the third book
15:04.32XhoIt sort of reads like classical literature almost
15:04.33ImperiosCouldn't read that, too much overwrought English
15:04.39ImperiosXho: Worse than classical literature
15:04.57Xhohur
15:04.59ImperiosIt's literally a revival of early Middle Ages epic literature
15:05.01Imperios*Medieval
15:05.05HachimanThing about Tolkein though is that he saves purple prose for the elves while everything is written in such a way as to seem "meh"
15:05.12ImperiosLike a Norse saga
15:05.19ImperiosWouldn't say so
15:05.22HachimanTolkein had a massive elf fetish it appears hur
15:05.37XhoI'd say it's everything but the Hobbits who tend to overthink their words
15:05.38ImperiosIt's all purple prose, though of many shades of purple
15:06.03Imperios...That's actually a good way to describe Tolkien's writing
15:06.06ImperiosFifty Shades of Purple
15:06.18XhoAnd even then Frodo and Bilbo tend to overdo it as well
15:06.49XhoBut hell Tolkien's imagination
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15:07.49Xho"In the 1920s, Tolkien undertook a translation of Beowulf, which he finished in 1926. He never published it. It was finally edited by his son and published in 2014, more than forty years after Tolkien's death and almost 90 years since its completion."
15:07.54XhoWelcome to hell
15:10.05ImperiosPure suffering
15:10.35OluapWorkergud thing I don`t read
15:11.23XhoDespite what I can write I have never actually had any interest for reading
15:11.53XhoI have read books mainly for the purpose that they were school/college topics
15:12.17TekDroidHigh School ruined my interest in reading. -.-
15:12.49XhoThe only books I have read out of interest is American Psycho and the Lord of the Rings
15:13.10OluapWorkerI`ve never read a book out of interest and I probably never will
15:19.19ImperiosThe last book I read was about Hitler
15:19.36XhoOF COURSE
15:20.26ImperiosI also planned to read one Victorian novel
15:20.27XhoHachiman: https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/988472_1127396027283455_3757516231991891905_n.jpg?oh=8ebadc3ea6239ccf83ff94183d5d560e&oe=5565E6BA For the love of god never use this line
15:20.33ImperiosOr, rather, not Victorian but...
15:20.39ImperiosBrit guys
15:20.40Hachimanhur
15:20.54OluapWorkerI don`t get it
15:20.57ImperiosWhat era is 1920s? Edwardian?
15:22.20XhoImperios: We call it Interwar
15:22.23ImperiosRite
15:22.27ImperiosAn Interwar novel then
15:22.32XhoEdwardian is usually 1901 - 1914
15:29.10HachimanI am going to go take a nap, I can barely stay awake at the moment
15:29.19HachimanBe back in a couple of hours or so
15:29.34OluapWorkerStop abandonin me pls
15:37.07Wormy_Snowing in Spain http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31146535
15:39.50Vincent20100"and up 40cm (1.3ft) of snow in the region. "
15:39.51Vincent20100-_-
15:40.00Vincent20100That akward moment when you're Canadian
15:40.18Xhohur
15:40.25XhoSnow days for us are like 2cm
15:40.43XhoEven though we're one of the most northern countries in the world we can't handle snow
15:41.28Vincent20100Just to give you an idea, it's -16 outside here, and it's normal day
15:41.40Xhowat
15:41.57XhoThen again we never see snow
15:42.04XhoIt never usually drops below -3
15:42.13Vincent20100Yesterday we received same amount of snow, no highways were closed ^^
15:42.19Vincent20100Canada! F*ck yah!
15:42.32XhoThanks for the weird warm current we get otherwise we'd be stuck in the same situation
15:44.57Vincent20100Be right back, gotta go chase of polar bears off my yard.
15:45.02Vincent20100*off
15:48.55Wormy_Reclaiming the United States!  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-27371673
15:56.15ImperiosYeah get your rebel colony in order hur
15:56.22ImperiosBut not before we nuke it!
15:57.58Wormy_We'll be sure to clear up the radioactive rubble and ship it back to keep you warm thank you
15:58.51Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9dt5SEiWHM That's hilarious
16:00.09Wormy_"He just jams that and that" *points at woman and bloke*
16:06.28Wormy_I swear all the interesting "Top ten video subjects" have now been used up
16:07.32GhelaeHow about top ten top tens?
16:07.54Wormy_Hm
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16:59.51Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ9-yw6EgCQ
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17:00.52TekDroidHello
17:03.01MonetV8 connected to a rocking chair. Impressive, if slight overkill
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17:20.55WormyIsAwayXho:  Inspiration for you?  http://forgetomori.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/helicoprion23d.jpg   http://www.heritagedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hef1.jpg
17:21.18WormyIsAwayIt had a jaw that was believed to act as a circular saw
17:21.41WormyIsAwayPrey would fall inside and get minced
17:22.06OluapWorkerFuck me that's creepy
17:24.36odellWormyIsAway: nice nosleep material right there
17:25.56WormyIsAwayI'm wondering why I hadn't heard of this creature.  It turns it wasn't a shark but a related order
17:33.19Vincent20100That thing actually existed?!
17:34.00WormyIsAwayUp until the Triassic
17:48.47Vincent20100Nature, you are one crazy mother f*cker...
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18:05.54Wormy_hi
18:11.57odellFantasy creatures are odd.
18:12.43odellTerrifying, strange, adorable, amazing and more if I had my dictionary here.
18:14.08odellIt's usually D&D and other similar games, Pathfinder and other derivatives.
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18:19.13HachimanI over-stepped my nap a bit
18:21.43OluapWorkerAs usual
18:22.11HachimanLike not too severely
18:22.17HachimanBut just a bit
18:28.09XhoBlaaah
18:28.22XhoWormy_: Could work
18:29.20Wormy_Hachiman:  Google "Helicoprion"
18:29.27Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t1.0-9/10968480_10152829818519998_6833420638197627615_n.png?oh=b12ed56bf051fabeff66459ad52d96f6&oe=554F9A08&__gda__=1432524683_32fc5d6d59ea15197c1cef03eab34ae
18:29.40HachimanFuck
18:29.45Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t1.0-9/10968480_10152829818519998_6833420638197627615_n.png?oh=b12ed56bf051fabeff66459ad52d96f6&oe=554F9A08&__gda__=1432524683_32fc5d6d59ea15197c1cef03eab34ae2
18:30.38HachimanWormy_: Is that a chainsaw for a lower jaw
18:30.44Wormy_yes
18:30.58Wormy_It would suck fish into its circular chainsaw and shred them
18:31.13HachimanThe actual fuck
18:31.55Wormy_http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110528021034/primeval-fanon/images/e/e4/Helicoprion3_copy.gif
18:32.10Wormy_theOcean.gif
18:47.35Hachimanhttp://frawty.com/wp-content/uploads/650xNx43-snapchats-too-good-to-disappear-forever1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.UUtRJErUZY.webp
18:50.35Hachimanhttp://frawty.com/wp-content/uploads/650xNx43-snapchats-too-good-to-disappear-forever27.jpg.pagespeed.ic.a78CeLXZMw.webp
18:52.41odellWormy_ Monet: http://imgur.com/gallery/kqRNO6M
18:53.57Wormy_The guy at the back is struggling to hold it in
18:55.31odellhttp://i.imgur.com/daJljHX.png?1
18:55.58odellAnd bonus: http://i.imgur.com/h58KMmz.jpg
18:56.58HachimanThe way bats fly freak me out
18:57.11HachimanWell no bats in general tend to freak me out
18:58.19Wormy_A bat brushed my hair once
18:59.25Wormy_It was not as funny as the time I was walking under a bridge and disturbed loads of rats which ran over my feet.  A drunk man was watching from the top of the bridge and walked down, laughing and saying something funny but barely audible
18:59.37XhoEr
18:59.42Wormy_I can't remember it now
18:59.44XhoDid something happen to the Koldenwelt map
19:00.50Wormy_Its small size when you click on it?
19:01.01XhoNope
19:01.09XhoThe Landmark image has gone missing
19:01.40Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/09/NightmareDrake.png/revision/latest?cb=20150205185551 Though I made this
19:02.07odellnoice
19:02.08Wormy_Damn thats cool
19:02.55odellWormy_: Funny thing that we don't have anything similar to "bats" in Swedish. Instead, we name then as "Fladdermöss".
19:03.31odellLiterally translated as "flapping mice".
19:03.37Xhowat
19:04.21Wormy_cool
19:04.40odellAnd for the "flying foxes", bigger bats with canine like features. We name them as "flyghundar", most close to "flying dogs".
19:05.04Wormy_indeed very appropriate
19:05.17odellSwedish can be sometimes weird, but very appropriate.
19:05.41OluapWorkerNice drake
19:05.49Wormy_Bats were for a while considered not too distant cousins to Primates but I think that has now been refuted
19:05.50odellMany times more weird if you do literal translations.
19:05.54XhoThat was the old Thunder Drake model
19:06.09XhoThey're now bad dream lizards
19:06.40Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kaicaiusarin/Pavor Added the Honoured Lords and Nightmare Drakes
19:06.49odellFound a picture of one of the very few bat species in our country. http://www.nationalstadsparken.se/Sve/Biologisk%20m%C3%A5ngfald/StoraBilder/fladdermusBABw.jpg
19:07.10odellAll of the species have a diet mainly consisting of insects.
19:07.10XhoBats are weird
19:08.22odellSo we have no vampires.
19:09.36odellProbably because we have black pudding as one of our traditional dishes.
19:09.48odellAnd we call them for "Blodpudding"
19:09.58XhoMakes sense hur
19:10.13XhoBlack pudding is relatively traditional here as well
19:11.11Wormy_That stuff of pure concentrated evil
19:11.23XhoThat's called blood hur
19:11.27odell*evil laughter*
19:12.17XhoLeave it to the Germanic people to invent food out of blood
19:12.33odellAnd we have got a dish named "Kroppkakor" -> "body cakes".
19:15.13Wormy_I bet that gets parodied in murder mystery-comedy sketches
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19:30.08GhelaeHello.
19:35.45Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/ca/PavorAttendant.png/revision/latest?cb=20150205193517 Attendants
19:36.08OluapWorkerFancy colours
19:36.44Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f0/PavorSpectre.png/revision/latest?cb=20150205193629 and a general Spectre
19:39.40OluapWorkerPoke
19:44.08HachimanSo apparently H.P. Lovecraft wrote a story called "Sweet Ermengarde" - a story revolving around whimsical romance, opportunity, and a stash of hidden gold beneath a farm
19:45.18Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kaicaiusarin/Pavor All added
19:48.24OluapWorkerspu did good
19:56.01Wormy_Few things stuff me more than curry
19:56.54XhoI've been off work for a month today
19:57.13OluapWorkerStill sick?
19:57.35XhoNot as bad as I was
19:57.46XhoJust not better
19:58.12Wormy_So, other than headache and sleeping sickness, what else is it?
19:58.24Wormy_if you don't mind me asking
20:00.21Wormy_I am suffering a malaise myself atm you see
20:03.07odellWormy_: Kroppkakor actually tastes better than how it looks like. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Kroppkaka.jpg
20:03.53Wormy_Looks like a cross between rice pudding and dumplings.
20:04.01odellServed with lingonberry jam, melted butter and cream.
20:04.25odellOptionally, much salt.
20:04.38Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumpling#Scandinavian_cuisine
20:04.48Wormy_Ah, they are similar to dumplings
20:04.58Wormy_I normally have dumplings in stew
20:05.26Wormy_odell:  I love this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_pudding
20:06.11odellLooks more like danish pastry
20:06.12odelllol
20:06.24XhoWormy_: Nothing much else now
20:06.57odellSpecially those what we call "Wienerbröd" http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Glazed_apple_Danish.jpg/1024px-Glazed_apple_Danish.jpg
20:07.18odellDont confuse them with wieners.
20:07.18Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/M%C3%A4mmi-2.jpg this looks like Christmas Pudding to me.
20:07.43odellI say it looks more like black pudding in my experience.
20:07.44Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10636319_646198045485177_8280786361455694917_n.jpg?oh=068019da55c7ac2719a2db542c91b8ae&oe=55491768&__gda__=1432352481_b439911a8a3393eecee4362ad625f13c
20:07.49Wormy_odell:  I've had Danish pastries.  But Yorkshire puddings are made with batter
20:08.11MonetXho: Goku is that powerful lol
20:08.32XhoThere's a lot of debate as to who is more powerful
20:08.41XhoI'd personally say Goku
20:08.56Wormy_I refuse to accept Goku beating Superman because Superman
20:09.16MonetI thin kSUperman has yet to blow up a planet has he?
20:09.41Wormy_He never needed to yet
20:09.54MonetTHen again Samantha Carter blew up a sun and she has no superpowers.
20:10.18Wormy_SW Grox soldiers have planet busting rocket launchers
20:11.38MonetSuperman and Goku are difficult to debate because their strength varies with plot.
20:11.49XhoTrue
20:11.55Wormy_Its a matter of preference then]
20:11.57GhelaeWormy_: When using a planet-busting rocket launcher, ensure launcher is not pointed towards the planet you are standing on.
20:12.07XhoSaiyans are usually said to have enough power in them to destroy a planet singlehandely
20:12.10Xhohandedly*
20:12.39MonetThat's a thing that doesn't seem to come up so much with these vs. debates: The trend of strength being relative to the plot in question.
20:12.49XhoTrue
20:13.13XhoVegeta is seen blowing up a planet almost effortlessly and Goku by the Namek Saga could smack Vegeta around fairly easily
20:13.20Wormy_Ghelae:  That would be the punultimate fail
20:13.34Wormy_*Punultimate* lol
20:13.42MonetAlso Goku isn't rendered mundane by a magic rock.
20:14.20MonetConsidering Krypton is supposed to be really really far away it's incredible how frequently Kryptonite turns up on Earth.
20:15.49MonetAnd the size of the chunks that keep getting found would have been parts of much larger chunks that burnt up in Earth's atmosphere surely
20:16.31Wormy_Why not just shoot superman with a kyptonite bullet?
20:17.14ImperiosMonet Xho: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Kostnice_Sedlec.JPG/800px-Kostnice_Sedlec.JPG That's an actual church
20:17.25Wormy_Prague
20:17.28XhoAll hail the skull
20:17.30ImperiosLooks like something out of Warhammer to me
20:17.43XhoI'm not freaked out by much
20:17.50XhoBut I would not want to be in there
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20:18.00Hachimandumternet
20:18.16ImperiosXho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjHBFptDTCE My reaction to the picture
20:18.38ImperiosHachiman: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Kostnice_Sedlec.JPG/800px-Kostnice_Sedlec.JPG That's an actual church
20:19.04HachimanI remember this
20:19.06Monetpushes Xho into the Paris Catacombs and locks the door
20:19.07HachimanIt is cool as fuck
20:19.11Wormy_Also in Prague http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Case_danzanti.jpg
20:19.17Xhonah m8
20:20.19MonetThe existence of the Paris Catacombis goes to show how metal the French truly are.
20:21.29Wormy_shakes France out of Monet
20:21.39Wormy_What has Charles done to you?
20:21.54MonetI see France as worthy rivals.
20:22.26MonetI still prefer being English, but France is hardcore enough for me to respect it.
20:22.53HachimanYeah they make a really nice white flag
20:23.03MonetHachiman: Oy.
20:23.46ImperiosMonet: So basically you treat France like I treat America
20:24.04HachimanRussia does not have good quality hamburgers then
20:24.40ImperiosYeah that's why we lost the Cold War
20:24.57ImperiosI prefer Russian fast food to American fast food, strangely enough
20:25.12Wormy_Because you wanted quality hamburgers?  Makes sense.
20:25.24MonetI no longer buy "Cheese-eating surrender monekys"
20:25.39ImperiosYep, we were defeated by powerful American quality hamburgers and blue jeans
20:26.02ImperiosCultural domination is a powerful force
20:26.05Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/French_Empire_evolution.gif between 1914 and 1958  France had dominion over Madagaskar and West Africa.
20:26.24Hachiman>Implying dominion over Madagascar is considered difficult
20:26.49MonetIt's not a landscape that's friendly to colonisation.
20:27.12ImperiosOkay West Africa had some advanced cultures but Madagascar is not that hard to take
20:27.35HachimanThe British were the ones that settled and colonized Australia, while France had to settle with pansy Madagascar
20:27.58ImperiosAustralia and Madagascar got nothing on Siberia
20:28.21Wormy_Yeah but hardly banyone lives in Siberia
20:28.35MonetI stil lgive Kudos i nthat France was still a sizeable power when Britain's own emprie was at it's height
20:28.37ImperiosThe same can be said of Australia :P
20:28.46Wormy_Relatively speaking, of course
20:28.48HachimanPutin uses Siberia as his holiday resort
20:29.06HachimanI am still fervent of the belief that mammoths continue to exist within the wildlands of Siberia
20:29.09ImperiosHachiman: You mean Putin's enemies
20:29.32Wormy_I wish so, but it was the encroaching forests that killed them off in the first place
20:29.47Wormy_But i think Almas live there
20:29.48ImperiosWe actually work on cloning mammoths back to existence
20:29.49MonetAnd then there was the time Napoleon made Europe his bitch.
20:30.28Imperios...Wait Koreans are doing this, not Russians
20:30.35Imperios...It's still "we" hur
20:30.57MonetI wonder how expansive France could have been if Napoleon decided to leae Russia alone.
20:31.09Wormy_Hachiman:  This image was recently found from the Dyatlov Pass group who were brutally killed http://www.cryptozoonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Urals.png
20:31.22HachimanDyatlov Pass creeps me the fuck out
20:31.33Wormy_One of the women wrote something about seeing a Yeti too
20:32.07odellImperios: Kamadans... http://paizo.com/image/content/PathfinderRPG/PZO1120-Kamadan.jpg
20:32.18HachimanStuff like the Dyatlov Pass Incident is the bizarre, nightmarish shit that comes out of Lovecraft stories
20:32.38MonetAlso France held West Africa until the 1960s. So for a time it's empire was *larger* than Britain's.
20:33.05odellAnd here is the pathfinder's bestiary entry for the Kamadan. http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary3/kamadan.html for these who want it.
20:33.10MonetSince by the 60s all we had was a few islands and Hong Kong
20:33.36MonetAll Britain had*
20:33.46Hachimanodell: Only CR4, not all that impressive hur
20:33.46Imperiosodell: Catsnake
20:33.48ImperiosIS gud
20:34.54odellImperios: Peeked inside a D&D-RPG-blog. And there was, literally, a panther-serpent among a list of possible encounters choosen through the dice.
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20:35.13HachimanSpeaking of Pathfinder
20:35.15HachimanHai Panda
20:35.28HachimanDrom was just showing us what a Kamadan was
20:36.42AdmiralPandaI see
20:36.58AdmiralPandaI want one
20:36.58Wormy_Hachiman:  I do have a theory that they were just caught talewind of a thermobaric vacuum bomb, leading some to flee with horrific internal injuries.  The orbs seen on the mountain could have been glow from the explosions in the fog/clouds
20:37.16ImperiosHi
20:37.29Wormy_Bits of metal were strewn across the mountain when the search was made
20:37.32HachimanAye that is a rather popular theory it appears
20:37.48HachimanThat does not explain some of the injuries and conditions of the bodies however
20:38.22Wormy_Well, such weapons can leave only internal damage
20:38.38Wormy_But yeah things like the tongue missing are a lot weirder
20:39.07HachimanSo until further notice I am retaining my cryptozoology conspiracy stance and claiming that they were killed either by a tribe of Yeti apemen or monstrous Lovecraftian mountain-dwellers
20:39.44Wormy_Don't forget the orbs
20:40.00Wormy_They even appear to have photographs of orbs
20:40.25odellSpeaking of lovecraftian creatures and monsters. DF has some of these, though the Masterwork mod adds alot of them.
20:40.41Wormy_I also like to think Tunguska is related to the strange Siberian domes
20:42.13Wormy_Hachiman:  Have you listened to Welcome to Nightvale?
20:42.15ImperiosHm I just thought of something
20:42.27HachimanI believe I might have
20:42.32Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=barhR-i_Ak8
20:42.34HachimanYou showed me them once
20:42.39ImperiosYou know Polynesians explored and settled most of the Pacific from Madagascar to Hawaii to New Zealand, right?
20:42.45ImperiosI wonder why didn't they take Australia
20:43.05HachimanBecause it is Australia
20:43.05ImperiosI mean it was right next to them
20:43.08AdmiralPandaBecause the aborigines were already there
20:43.19AdmiralPandathey showed up and got told to fk off
20:43.21odellXho: http://i.imgur.com/pDV077h.gifv
20:43.27ImperiosHachiman: Australia is Australia, but Maori are Maori
20:44.00Xhoodell: Ragehammer
20:44.04ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Well the territory was vast, and the Polynesians were more militant and technologically advanced
20:44.08Wormy_I'm at episode 16 now
20:44.10HachimanAborigine - YEH FACK OFF M80
20:44.10ImperiosCould tell them to fk off hur
20:44.31AdmiralPandaMore militant? Not really. Technological advancement? Also not really. Better boats, yes, but other than that no
20:44.45Imperiosrite
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20:45.24AdmiralPandaThat and the aborigine tribes with boomerangs would fuck them up at over twice the range of a throwing spear :P
20:46.14Wormy_Imperios:  Well I've always wondered why Arctic people didn't move South.
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20:47.17odellTekDroid: Education board in a nutshell. http://imgur.com/gallery/CBfhnIL
20:49.04odellhe b ded
20:49.57HachimanWormy_: My God the narrator cannot have enough of Caros
20:49.59HachimanCarlos*
20:50.36Wormy_lol He has been talking about Carlos for the last 5 minutes in episode 16
20:51.34odellepisode of what?
20:53.54MonetRegarding the siscussion last night, It's got me thinking how much of a threat to Koldenwelt the Orocathi Domain would be if it was a united force.
20:54.15HachimanConsidering elven prominence
20:54.17HachimanNot much
20:54.52MonetYeah but what keeps the Orocathi Domain in check right now is that it's various lords and commanders are more focused on conquering each other
20:56.08Wormy_odell:  Find Welcome to Nightvale
20:56.32HachimanIf the Orichalcum Elves could not conquer the entirety of Koldenwelt and if Caligaduro could not destroy it
20:57.03MonetThe Orichalcum elves still maanged to conquer a sizeable portion of it though
20:58.26MonetAnd Orocathrheim's loction deep within the earth makes it difficult to preoperly occupy.
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20:58.28AdmiralPandaI almost sense a 40k Orks expy here (even if very minor), in which case remember that Koldenwelt wasn't made with an "everything is DOOOOMED" standpoint
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20:59.02DrodoEmpireHi everyone
20:59.10MonetAdmiralPanda: In a sense, yeah.
20:59.11HachimanIn fact Koldenwelt is anything but "EVERYTHING IS DOOMED"
20:59.17HachimanIt could not be more thriving
20:59.54XhoThe Orichalcum Elves became afraid of anything north of the Tropical Lands
20:59.57MonetThe Draonoggr themselves hoewver rely on subjugated soldiers, kept in line though magic, force and fanaticism.
21:00.16Ghelae~give DrodoEmpire a cookie
21:00.16infobotACTION gives DrodoEmpire a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
21:00.34HachimanConsider that elves are the most populous species on Koldenwelt and are largely connected culturally and socially and they have not conquered Koldenwelt
21:00.35DrodoEmpireyey
21:01.02odellOh hai drodo
21:01.12MonetAlthough I guess there's subjectivity as to which is worse: Being swiftly executed, being crushed, or being eaten alive.
21:01.49XhoKoldenwelt is too large to conquer
21:02.20XhoIt would be like Rome trying to conquer the world with 5 Romes
21:02.26Xho5 other Romes that is
21:03.31HachimanI drank all my cider so now I have nothing to keep myself occupied with
21:03.35HachimanThis makes me sadfaic
21:03.48MonetOkay how about this: I wondered how severe a threat  could the Draokorumnoggr of the Domain could potentially be if they all stopped using their resources to conquer each other?
21:03.58AdmiralPandaHachiman: occupy urself with me
21:04.19XhoCider
21:04.22Xhou entry level
21:04.32HachimanI do not drink cider to get drunk dumbo
21:04.44HachimanI prefer the taste of it to beer or most wine
21:05.09MonetThe Orocathi Domain looks like a paint splatter on a map of Koldenwelt because every mountain lord is expanding his own domain at a rate he likes.
21:05.28MonetSO I guess if anything, the domain is more a loose confederacy of Draonoggr vying for power with each other.
21:05.39XhoI find Cider difficult to drink tbh
21:05.53HachimanFinding cider difficult to drink
21:05.57Hachimanu entry level
21:06.07XhoIt's the taste more than anything
21:06.27XhoThen again I prefer whisky over cider so I just have odd preferences
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21:07.12odellI prefer soda over cider.
21:07.49odellMainly because I'm not born to drink alcohole. hur
21:07.49Monetodell: You milk-drinker.
21:08.11Xhoups
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21:08.16Hachiman_My IRC croaked
21:08.23odellWhenever I get a drip of it. My stomach will turn into an eternal hell.
21:08.35Monetdoel: Don't fear the fire
21:08.35odellALL THE BURNS!
21:08.46MonetFire good!
21:09.02XhoThat would be a great brand of absinthe
21:09.08Xho"Prometheus' Scourge"
21:09.14odellFire water, ug.
21:10.06odellNo wonder why the how the comic, book and multimedia native Americans called alcoholic drinks "fire water". Specially whiskey and vodka.
21:11.08OluapPlayerspu
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21:11.40XhoI never drink for the purpose of having fun now
21:11.45ImpyDroidhttp://cringefringe.com/fukushima-97-year-old-woman-blames-radiation-large-clitoris/ what
21:11.47XhoDefinitely outgrown that stage
21:11.54MonetWait, about the ROme thing
21:12.13MonetWeren't Rome's chief rivals Persia and Carthage?
21:12.18odellMonet: Of course I drink alot of milk.
21:12.37Hachiman_ImpyDroid: And here I was thinking it was the reverse for most Japanese
21:12.37odellWithout having any problems as others, non-nordics seems to have.
21:12.58Hachiman_Wait that wasn't appropriate
21:13.01XhoPersia and Carthage seems about right
21:13.02Hachiman_Dash my statement
21:13.30MonetNeeda nickname for Orocathrheim...
21:13.45XhoAngry Dragon Mountain
21:13.52odellI feel off the chair as I was confused by the name.
21:13.56Monet"city of cinders"? "The Deep Realm?"
21:14.21MonetAlthough The Deep Realm could be something adopted by Ar-Klith
21:14.42ImpyDroidMonet: Ashrock Depths
21:15.04Monet"the city of furnaces"?
21:15.38odellMonet Xho ImpyDroid: This talk brings me back to DF.
21:15.59MonetThe general idea of Orocathrheim is, apart form being underground and full of Draonoggr. It's close to a large magma pool, it's hot and there are numerosu forges thoughout the labarynthine tunnels
21:16.07MonetSO it's essentially Hell lol
21:18.39MonetIn trhe Draonoggr toungue the name means "city of the Orocathi" so I'm more looking for a name people would adopt to refer to it.
21:19.33MonetAlthough what "orocathi" means though...Maybe a name that referred to the clan of Draonoggr who first inhabited the city.
21:21.39GhelaeIt could it turn relate to a place where that clan came from. Maybe there's a place in Koldenwelt called Orocath.
21:22.08GhelaeAs much as that might cause confusion with Orocathrheim.
21:25.05GhelaeAlternatively, perhaps "orocathi" is etymologically related to "orichalcum", and that metal was once mined/produced there.
21:26.06MonetXho and I discussed that Orocathrheim could be the site of some of the last reachable traces of oricalcum ore on Koldenwelt.
21:26.40MonetBut perhaps...perhaps yeah
21:27.37MonetThe city was founded around the end of the adamantine age
21:28.24MonetAlthough Draonoggr could have lived there for longer
21:29.11MonetSo perhaps the city itself was the site of a large deep-earth Orichalcum deposit
21:29.31ImpyDroidMaybe "orocath" could be a corruption of "orichalcum"?
21:29.40MonetImpyDroid: My thoughts exactly
21:30.38MonetOKay. I have a thought.
21:30.59Monet"Orocathrheim" could translate from Drokkoril as "amber-rock bastion"
21:33.07MonetI talked with Xho about the prospect of Orocathi smiths using what's left of the oricalcum as an alloying component
21:34.25MonetEarly crafts could have been pure roicalcum, but within the last couple of thousand there could have been a leaning towards an oricalcum alloy.
21:34.32Monetoricalcum*
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21:36.36GhelaeIf the veins are becoming noticably depleted, alloying it with other metals might well be a means of using it while also conserving it.
21:36.36XhoGG chrome
21:36.51XhoJust been forced on to Internet Explorer because Chrome just went NOPE
21:37.03GhelaeOr is there some other reason why they'd have taken to alloying it?
21:37.04MonetXho: My condolences
21:37.07Ghelae~give Xho a cookie
21:37.07infobotACTION gives Xho a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
21:37.43MonetOne other reason pivots how good an alloy is compared to the pure metal?
21:37.50Monetan alloy of it*
21:38.20GhelaeI suppose it depends on what you want to use it for. Perhaps aesthetic tastes have simply changed over time and pure orichalcum is now out of fashion?
21:39.07MonetBuilding a city inside a precious material is good at doing a number on "it's tasteful because it's valuable"
21:39.19Monet"and rare"
21:39.34GhelaeAlso, I always imagined orichalcum to be some (super?)naturally-occuring alloy, not that it really matters.
21:40.14MonetBeing a fantasy world we're not restricted to the periodic table.
21:40.28XhoPelagrios - metal metal metal magic metal
21:40.41GhelaeIf we were, then I would have said that it really mattered. :P
21:41.31GhelaeBut yes, alloying orichalcum with other metals could have arisen as a way of making new materials that look distinct from the traditional stuff.
21:41.36XhoYou know times have gotten bad when Explorer is faster than Chrome
21:41.54MonetOricalcum for asethetic purposes...I'm not sure since the city would have had access to plenty of gemstones
21:42.21MonetMaybe an oricalcum alloy has a glittery surface to it?
21:42.37GhelaeSome might do.
21:43.13MonetMy thoughts on an alloy for weapons and armour was either adding it to steel or combining it with titanium
21:43.31GhelaeIf it's magic, maybe you could, I don't know, alloy it with diamonds and then you end up with a translucent metal that glows.
21:44.52MonetThe old part of the city could have palaces plated with oricalcum metal
21:44.58ImpyDroidDiamond alloy
21:45.20ImpyDroidThat's some shonky business right there
21:45.32MonetTheft of that kind of bling is kinda hard when its' guarded by warriors o nthe paroll of the city's elite
21:45.39GhelaeImpyDroid: Magic.
21:45.40Monetpayroll*
21:46.01GhelaeI also thought that orichalcum wouldn't make for good weapons or armour, hence adamantine. So maybe alloying it with something else does make it significantly stronger, or orichalcum-steel alloy simply looks like the (now rare) adamantine of old.
21:46.25ImpyDroidWell I think I mentioned Klaxxa using a crystalline, obsidian-like magically conductive material called "obsinite"
21:46.32ImpyDroidMaybe this could work
21:46.49MonetGhelae: Oricalcum-steel alloy works for me
21:46.52odellNeeded to get this out of my mind. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/Scrapbook#Fantasy_Concepts
21:46.54MonetI'd call it "ambersteel"
21:51.57odellFeedback is appropriated.
21:55.18odellhttp://satwcomic.com/art/so-close-yet-so-far.png
21:55.50odell"Most Danes are really bad at telling Norwegian and Swedish apart.
21:55.51odellCase in point, I was watching Twin Peaks with a friend who complained about the terrible Swedish some of the characters were talking, and then it turned out they were Norwegian."
22:00.34odellWormy_ Vincent20100: http://i61.tinypic.com/24es807.png
22:01.28Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Orocathheim started on a page
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22:07.48XhoLet it be known that Chrome is a computer hog
22:09.16OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Petroatragal in case anyone cares
22:09.55Xhopetro tray girk
22:09.57Xhogirl even
22:10.00XhoI can't type for shit
22:11.38XhoI wouldn't know what to quote however
22:12.13OluapPlayerYou don't have to quote
22:14.38XhoFeel like I should though
22:14.47XhoJust general quoting customs...if that's a thing
22:15.25XhoFor some reason I thought that the Petroatragal was fashioned out of the corpses the Merkan dragged underwater
22:15.56OluapPlayerMight be, no one knows how it was created
22:17.08XhoCorpse dragon sounds cool I might do it one day
22:18.26Wormy_lol
22:19.02XhoSomething's telling me we've already done a corpse dragon
22:19.06XhoI just can't remember where
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22:20.14OluapPlayerI don't remember any
22:20.17GhelaeI don't think you've done a corpse dragon, but I'd be surprised if there weren't something made out of corpses somewhere.
22:20.44TekDroidHello
22:20.49OluapPlayerClosest thing we have is Moxix and he's not fantasyverse fiction
22:21.20MonetYou had an undead dragon.
22:21.53XhoYeah that was retconned into a Void Denizen
22:22.03XhoAdmiralPanda: https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10926362_765423406865524_3282440824520553156_n.jpg?oh=ef3038178640667f5bb2dedaaf61477b&oe=554B0A9D Vuples Incancer
22:22.13GhelaeThe Bone Fiends of the Endless Host come pretty close.
22:22.16XhoVulpes*
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22:23.28GhelaeHello.
22:25.04Xhohttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10923566_854524197903587_1941122138667348732_n.jpg?oh=5425d4c6f77f6556130fd1c66981e79f&oe=5548101F
22:28.55DrodoEmpire'Murica
22:29.40TekDroidO.o
22:29.49Xhohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9HQpXfIAAA0hX6.jpg get cute dog
22:30.40OluapPlayerwoof
22:32.25Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Recoilless_gun_155mm_Davy_Crockett3.jpg/800px-Recoilless_gun_155mm_Davy_Crockett3.jpg doesn't look very portable
22:32.43MonetWell it is portable, but not as portable as a proper rife
22:32.46Monetrifle*
22:34.03XhoIt's named after Davy Crockett of course it's portable
22:34.52odellTo the madhouse the Americans go.
22:37.51DrodoEmpireMonet: Its something that'd be carried by at least at the squad level. :P
22:37.59DrodoEmpireIts portable for the purposes of that
22:38.17MonetFair enough
22:38.30MonetMGS3 makes it a bit too portable though.
22:45.39GhelaeI'm going to go now. Bye!
22:55.57TechnobliteratorOooh, MGS3?
22:56.14Technobliterator(I get pinged when MGS3 is said in the chat)
22:56.21Technobliterator(yes, I set my client to do that :D)
22:56.23MonetLol
22:56.45Technobliteratorwell, Techno and Jo both ping me too
22:56.48MonetI was merely mentioning the real-life Davy Crocket was nto as man-portable as MGS3 made it look
22:56.59Technobliteratoroh, right, yeah
23:05.14Wormy_This was a mathematical monster by 19th century mathematicians because it represented a 1D line filling up a 2D plane without ever crossing itself and you could fit an infinitely long curve in a finite area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peano_curve
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23:31.09Xho"▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼Sorry, I've dropped my bag of illuminati ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ► ▼ ◄ ◄ ▲▲ ► ▼ ◄▼ ◄ ◄ ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼ ◄ ▲ ▼ ◄ ▲ ► ▼
23:32.19Wormy_What the deuce?
23:34.05Wormy_"YIELDS FALSEHOOD WHEN PRECEDED BY ITS QUOTATION" YIELDS FALSEHOOD WHEN PRECEDED BY ITS QUOTATION
23:50.49Xhohttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/04/putin-aspergers-syndrome-study-pentagon/22855927/
23:50.53XhoWatch Imperios crumbl
23:50.58Wormy_awaysaw that
23:52.33Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
23:56.29XhoUnless he's Russian
23:57.27MonetIt's interesting how many famous people have either asperger's, autism or dyslexia

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