IRC log for #sporewiki on 20150115

00:00.01OluapPlayerThey're called Leaf Leshy
00:00.01HachimanOh right
00:00.03AdmiralPandaboth
00:00.16AdmiralPandaand all you get is flytrap leshies cus I'm evil
00:00.23OluapPlayer;____________;
00:00.24The_Randomnesshue
00:00.28OluapPlayerlemme grow leaf leshies pls
00:00.37OluapPlayerMake a small army of them to throw at the dragons
00:00.38AdmiralPandaplay a druid then
00:00.47OluapPlayerfug dat
00:00.59The_Randomnessoluap isn't cool enough to be hippy dude
00:01.17HachimanImplying you cannot get violent Druids
00:01.42OluapPlayerA violent druid is probably not a very good druid
00:01.58AdmiralPanda< played a lightning-powered bear druid obsessed with the aspect of the predator
00:02.13HachimanSolaire the Bear
00:02.20OluapPlayerhur
00:02.30AdmiralPandamore like chomp-your-face the bear
00:02.34OluapPlayerSummoning failed -> "Oh bother"
00:02.43AdmiralPandanatural spell is the single best feat in the game, hands down
00:02.57AdmiralPandabecause it lets you be a bear and still cast lightning spells
00:03.09HachimanIf I knew I could grow an army of Pikmin I would have played Druid sooner hur
00:03.30OluapPlayerThe leaf leshy page details how to grow one
00:03.44OluapPlayerIt's a noticeable investiment
00:03.52AdmiralPandayeah, multiple weeks and much money
00:04.04OluapPlayerEven more expensive with more powerful leshies
00:04.15AdmiralPandaand I'll say it outright, you don't have that much time to spend on things not related to killing dragons :P
00:04.26OluapPlayerdunt railroad us pls
00:05.25OluapPlayerThe kingdoms fell as the dragons attack with all of their might, bringing about the end of civilization as we know it. The party, meanwhile, never left the forest after they were dlecared lords of the leaf leshies
00:05.40OluapPlayerdeclared*
00:05.43The_RandomnessMission accomplished
00:05.55AdmiralPandathere's a difference between railroading, and making sure that all your adventures have something to do with killing dragons
00:06.06AdmiralPandaall roads lead to Rome, you just get to choose which one you take
00:06.06The_RandomnessSaving the world? Ain't nobody got time for that.
00:06.23OluapPlayerJust saying
00:06.33OluapPlayerMy campaign is about killing daemons yet you've met any daemons in a very long time
00:06.49HachimanWhat about the Schir
00:06.56OluapPlayerDemon
00:07.08OluapPlayerNot Daemon
00:07.32OluapPlayeryou've not*
00:07.45OluapPlayerMy spelling is getting worse as time passes
00:07.57AdmiralPandaOluapPlayer: That's a difference in style. All of your options will in some way aid you in killing dragons, whether you intend it to or not
00:08.18HachimanBy the way
00:08.24HachimanI call Leaf Leshies for the Fantasyverse
00:08.25OluapPlayerI'll ask it now before we even begin just to make it clear
00:08.30OluapPlayerHachiman: Die
00:08.59OluapPlayerIf I have the gold and the opportunity to, can I permanently enlarge my eidolon?
00:09.03OluapPlayerAs in, permanency spell
00:09.10AdmiralPandayep
00:09.15OluapPlayerayy
00:09.18OluapPlayerwe gargantuan now
00:09.26HachimanGargantuan Enemy Crab
00:09.46OluapPlayerThat's gonna take a while since size evolutions cost a fuckton
00:09.54OluapPlayerAnd need dosh for that
00:10.12The_Randomnessbrb dinner
00:10.41AdmiralPandaand you'll need to find someone of at least 9th level to do so for you
00:10.54OluapPlayerThat's fair enough
00:10.57OluapPlayerI just wanted to know if I could
00:11.05AdmiralPandayes, you can
00:11.23HachimanLemme look through my spells to see if I can Permanency
00:11.25AdmiralPandaoh wow that's such a loophole
00:11.47AdmiralPandathe only reason you can do it is because Summoners can cast any spell that works on them on their eidolon
00:12.29AdmiralPandaI never bothered looking at the target range, normally it can only be cast on humanoids but Summoners get to cheat that bit
00:12.52OluapPlayerSo you can't normally cast it on monsters?
00:12.58AdmiralPandanot normally no
00:13.06OluapPlayerThat's kind of dumb
00:13.22AdmiralPandawell to be fair it is enlarge 'person'
00:13.34AdmiralPandathere's a separate spell druids get for monsters and animals
00:13.59HachimanBilrick gets Kookie to Gargantuan -> Cast another enlargement spell on Kookie -> Cast another Permanency -> Rinse and repeat
00:14.06OluapPlayerCan't do that
00:14.09OluapPlayerOnly one spell at a time
00:14.10Hachimanfug
00:14.21OluapPlayerEnlarges don't stack with each other
00:15.00OluapPlayerA gargantuan sized crab is still larger than an adult red dragon and that's all I really need
00:15.24HachimanGeezush
00:15.35HachimanYou will still need Mount to ride on top of it however
00:15.37OluapPlayerAdult reds are huge creatures, so they're smaller hur
00:16.26OluapPlayerWe'll be in trouble if Panda throws a great wyrm at us though
00:16.38OluapPlayerNot just because they're CR 22, but because they're larger than gargantuan hur
00:17.21HachimanI have a feeling Velanith is not going to last long once the difficulty starts setting in
00:17.28OluapPlayer"breath weapon (70-ft. cone, DC 33, 24d10 fire)"
00:17.30OluapPlayeryickes
00:18.07AdmiralPandadragons get very nasty very quickly, it's true
00:18.23OluapPlayerWhich's why we need filler false dragons hur
00:19.18AdmiralPandayou'll experience everything the dragons are going to throw at you well before the dragons appear, but when they do appear you're going to feel it
00:19.49HachimanWell
00:19.51OluapPlayerThis all excites me more than it intimidates me hur
00:19.52HachimanTime to metagame
00:19.57OluapPlayerdunt b dum
00:20.00Hachimanhur
00:20.19HachimanYeah I am also very hypes
00:20.22Hachimanhyped*
00:21.10HachimanI was supposed to be in bed sometime ago so I do not go through the day tired tomorrow
00:21.14HachimanGod fucking damnit
00:21.27OluapPlayerdunt leev me pls
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00:21.55HachimanI hate sleeping because I means I have less things to experience in a day
00:22.25HachimanI want to experience all the things
00:22.36OluapPlayeri want 2 experimence u
00:23.11AdmiralPandaI'm starting to wonder if Hachi and Clotho was a case of self-insert fan fiction :P
00:23.24OluapPlayerNooooooo
00:23.32HachimanOf course not~
00:23.39OluapPlayerIt's not like I want to be a cute elf girl of anything
00:24.09HachimanHachi is a rabbit and rabbits are furfags so definitely not
00:24.21OluapPlayerBut you're a furfag
00:24.27HachimanYou're a weaboo
00:24.28OluapPlayerReminder Hachi began as a Sonic OC
00:25.04HachimanWe all made mistakes
00:25.05HachimanYourself, for instance
00:25.39OluapPlayer;_;
00:25.52HachimanReminder MEEM
00:26.03OluapPlayerdum
00:26.07Hachiman<3
00:28.45HachimanI have to draw a half-elf warrior girl tomorrow for college
00:29.31The_Randomnessnom
00:29.32GD12Hello
00:31.12OluapPlayerHachiman: Drow Clothovera hur
00:31.25HachimanDrow Clothovera
00:31.34HachimanNow that's a curious thought
00:31.40OluapPlayerFDuck
00:31.44OluapPlayerFuck even
00:31.47Hachimanolol
00:31.49OluapPlayerGoddamn everything
00:32.10OluapPlayerDrow Clothovera would probably be Countess Clothovera but with purple skin
00:32.16Hachimanhur
00:32.20The_RandomnessHave you checked to see if your fingers have suddenly grown in the past few hours?
00:32.20The_Randomness>:3
00:32.31OluapPlayerhow bout u go check if ur fridge is running
00:32.40The_Randomnessi better go catch it hur
00:32.42Hachimanooh sik burn
00:33.16OluapPlayerpro pyro skills
00:33.26The_Randomnessmore like freezer burn amirite
00:33.28OluapPlayeroh u
00:33.32Hachimanmlg puns
00:34.14Hachiman#propuns360nojoke
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00:34.38The_RandomnessHello
00:37.47The_Randomnessl8r nurds
00:43.08Hachimanbai
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01:17.33GD12I'm bak
01:17.35GD12Hai all
01:17.49Wormy_hi
01:17.51OfficerJackalHey!
01:23.00GD12~tset
01:23.01Tek0516I've done some serious Star Trek binge watching. XD Only a few episodes left in the third season of TNG and I only started last Monday. XD
01:23.11Tek0516pass. :P
01:23.24Tek0516I think they deleted tset. XD
01:24.13GD12ahh i see
01:24.24GD12I think I should be studying for my 7 courses
01:24.29GD12but alas, the call of fiction is too great
01:25.06GD12retreats into his fiction cave and shuts his eyes off from reality
01:25.08Tek0516lol
01:25.20Tek0516I only have 2 lectures tomorrow.
01:25.53GD12Well I have no lectures till Tuesday
01:26.00GD12Hah!
01:27.40Wormy_GD12:  I'm up for that rp tomorrow, probably have 7 or 8 PM GMT
01:27.43Wormy_And later
01:27.56GD12Aye, hopefully eveeryone will be on
01:28.03GD12If not, we can wait till Friday/ the weekend
01:28.54GD12Of course, RL takes precedence. My fiction binge is merely a result of the fact that I'm still on break
01:29.48Wormy_yes, I've got so much work to do in 6 months it no longer seems a long way away
01:30.09GD12Hoh
01:30.35Wormy_and that is why i must go to bed now
01:30.41Wormy_goodnight
01:30.41GD12Nighty
01:31.10GD12brb
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01:36.13TekDroidHello
01:38.54GD12Hello
01:39.05GD12I'm going to try to make the lyrics of the Dominatus National Anthem hur
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02:02.25DrodoEmpireHi everyone
02:02.28DrodoEmpireJust on for a few minutes
02:05.26GD12Hi
02:20.20GD12rite
02:20.27GD12Finally made the Dominatus anthem
02:20.30GD12can be sung to O Fortuna
02:47.05GD12Here for those interested
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03:21.22GD12Dominatus Anthem, with attached link to O Fortuna instrumental (which it is sung to) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny#Anthem
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03:32.33The_Randomnessoh woops, gotta go
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03:38.58Quark8Hello.
03:41.29GD12hi
03:42.00TekDroidHello
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05:50.06GD12Hey all
05:50.11GD12hey Vincent20100
06:12.43Liquid_InkDoes the United Kingdom give rewards for information for the capture of highly highly highly dangerous criminals?
06:13.11Liquid_Ink*leading to the capture...
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08:56.51AdmiralPandahi all
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09:20.49GhelaeHello.
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09:51.44GhelaeHello.
09:53.38OluapWorkerHi
10:38.15AdmiralPandahi all
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11:04.37ImpyDroidHi
11:06.42OluapWorkerHello
11:16.22OluapWorkerAdmiralPanda: http://bandainamcous.tumblr.com/post/108136899811/attention-dark-souls-ii-fans-a-free-update-will might interest you
11:18.32AdmiralPandafrom what I've heard agape is still dum because you need a lot of souls on top of your level souls to get gear, but the better matchmaking should be good
11:21.38OluapWorkerNot the best solution
11:21.42OluapWorkerBut I guess it's something
11:22.16AdmiralPandait's something, but it's avoidance rather than correction
11:22.59OluapWorkerYeah and From is dum for that
11:23.13OluapWorkerNow you have to sacrifice a ring slot
11:25.54AdmiralPandait looks like you have around ~145k souls to account for all your upgrades, purchases and consumables if you want to stay in the SL 150 SM bracket
11:26.07AdmiralPandanot undoable, but you have a finite limit
11:26.14OluapWorkerI do like the improvements for covenant rewards
11:26.27AdmiralPandaoh yeah
11:26.43AdmiralPandaprops to them for that, no more forest pendants hur
11:27.01OluapWorkerYou can actually get rewards as a host at bellbong areas
11:27.05OluapWorkerTitanite Slabs even
11:27.18AdmiralPandawhich is gud for us cus arranged duels ^.^
11:27.22OluapWorkerhur
11:29.21AdmiralPandaactually I've been meaning to ask, do people constantly invade in the belfries like they do in Darkroot?
11:30.50OluapWorkerI had constant invasions when I joined the covenant
11:30.59OluapWorkerOr should I say, I constantly invaded people
11:31.37OluapWorkerBut this was when I was doing the Lost Bastille. I don't know how active high level PvP is in Belfry
11:31.43AdmiralPandathat's not the same, I mean as the host will you be constantly invaded
11:31.53OluapWorkerAh
11:31.54OluapWorkerYes
11:31.57AdmiralPandabecause that's the important part for co-cosplay
11:31.58AdmiralPandagud
11:32.16OluapWorkerYou get invaded the moment you step in the level
11:32.30OluapWorkerMuch to the chagrin of anyone trying to fight the Gargoyles
11:32.58AdmiralPandaand then once those invaders are defeated, if you wait will you be invaded by more covenant people?
11:34.31OluapWorkerYeah
11:36.34AdmiralPandagud
11:36.58AdmiralPandanow to buy a bazillion prism stones and start taking count
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11:46.19DarcySupremestGentry
11:47.23AdmiralPandaWell thanks for addressing me but you should probably say hello to everyone else while you're at it :P
11:50.38DarcySupremestOh you
11:53.52DarcySupremestSo like the discussion page on revilizing the fiction verse is a clusterfuck I can't make any sense of
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11:54.18DarcySupremestI'm wondering if any of its relevant to me incase I should actually care whats being said in it
11:54.22OluapWorker_Damnit
11:54.35AdmiralPandahur
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11:54.50AdmiralPandabtw how long it gon be till you're a playa again
11:55.30OluapWorker_About 9 hours
11:55.42AdmiralPandadum
11:55.56OluapWorkery u ask
11:56.52AdmiralPandacus teach you how to make monsters, so I'll do that in the morning (i.e. in like 9 hours)
11:56.57TechnobliteratorDarcySupremest, none of it is relevant to you
11:57.08OluapWorkerrite
11:57.09TechnobliteratorThe discussions is practically concluded
11:57.18TechnobliteratorUnfortunately, we have since dropped the War of Ages
11:57.29OluapWorkerYou could start doing it now if you're available, I'm not really doing anything atm
11:57.53AdmiralPandacould do, just don't want to distract you from the clearly vital and intensive work you do
11:58.07TechnobliteratorWhich is a huge shame, but if the others aren't interested, then it's better to not bother than to just force it and make a mediocre story
11:58.17OluapWorkerI got nothing to do atm hur
11:58.53DarcySupremestRighto, I just saw it on the notifications and I've spent like 7 minutes scrolling through trying to figure out what the problem is
11:59.05TechnobliteratorThere is no longer a problem
11:59.08DarcySupremestso I was worried if ignoring it would be a detriment in someway
11:59.25TechnobliteratorThe only message to take away is "do not force your style of writing on other people"
11:59.50DarcySupremest\_o_/
12:00.18AdmiralPandarite well, could do now
12:00.23DarcySupremestYou gotta be a supreme bastard to do that
12:00.43TechnobliteratorUnfortunately, many people were
12:00.49TechnobliteratorUnintentionally, of course
12:04.37DarcySupremestYeah that happens
12:05.17DarcySupremestThat last IRC based around a central like story, in my case it was a fanfiction community, I used to go on
12:05.32DarcySupremestIt got nightmarishly bad with that kind of thing
12:06.39DarcySupremestPrecisiely because the moderators were immature bastards, I saw one of my favorite authors like leave the community because her stuff was getting stolen by the writer of a bigger more popular story
12:07.41AdmiralPandaactually I'm really sleepy so I'm gonna sleep then I'll do that when I wake up
12:08.38DarcySupremestAnd she just couldn't cope with people saying she was stealing from the bigger story that in reality was actually stealing from her, and of course when she voiced her concerns she was shut out and told to stop complaining
12:08.54DarcySupremestand everyone who even sounded like they took her side was banned from the IRC and the forums
12:08.59DarcySupremestand thats how Darcy ended up here
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12:22.08OluapWorkerspu
12:22.16Xho~glomp OluapWorker
12:22.17infobotACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapWorker
12:22.22Xhoyeh
12:22.30XhoAlso
12:22.36OluapWorkerglompin Xho is scariest Xho
12:22.48XhoOluapWorker Ghelaway Technobliterator ImpyDroid: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:783746
12:23.17XhoXho: Care Bear Edition
12:23.20XhoOkay that is scary
12:23.31OluapWorkerSpartian can u not
12:23.34TechnobliteratorUnfortunately for Spartian, I'm trained not to believe that
12:23.50OluapWorkerUnfortunately for him I want him to go fuck himself hur
12:24.08TechnobliteratorThe best response would be to ignore him
12:24.23OluapWorkerI'm pro at ignoring people
12:24.39XhoWay ahead
12:24.57Technobliterator"(oh, fair warning. I am planning on writing a novel. You guys are in it. does not go well for you. Should drop that idea.)"
12:24.58Technobliteratorlolz
12:25.20OluapWorkerThat's a very good way of making yourself look better
12:25.22OluapWorkerExcept no
12:25.45Technobliterator:p
12:25.48Technobliteratoranyway, bbl
12:26.57DarcySupremestHaha
12:27.01DarcySupremestHoly shit
12:27.31DarcySupremest"You guys are in it. does not go well for you."
12:27.50DarcySupremestThats something you'd read on /r/CringePics
12:28.06XhoAnd he messaged me
12:28.19XhoThe one user that doesn't reply to things ever
12:28.49XhoWell maturation is actually a word
12:28.55XhoStupidest looking word I've ever seen
12:30.13DarcySupremestYeah I was wondering if he just made up Maturation because it looked so bizarre
12:30.57OluapWorkerHe's just trying to look smart
12:31.09DarcySupremest^
12:35.25DarcySupremesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1qxx432mAY
12:35.37DarcySupremestAnxiously excited about this movie
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12:40.47Wormy_Hi
12:42.15DarcySupremestHey
12:55.31GhelHello.
12:56.42Wormy_Hi
12:57.51Wormy_Ghel:  Have you noticed Cyrannian's new reactionless drive?
12:58.00GhelYes.
12:59.12Wormy_The paper it is based on http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/6706/AIM-2002-017.pdf?sequence=2
12:59.28Wormy_I told Cyrannian I'm not sure if it can achieve FTL
13:00.13DarcySupremestIs that the Microwave based engine?
13:00.26DarcySupremestWhich was supposed to be like impossible
13:02.26Wormy_No, the paper describes being in curved space (and space is curved).  If you imagine a deformable object's internal motion on the equator of a sphere, its movements will allow it to push through space.  Locally, it appears to be stationary, hence its not real thrust, but due the curvature of space
13:03.23Wormy_It seems to imply the curvature of space may set how fast the drive may move, but the mathematics is a bit beyond me still
13:05.39DarcySupremestInteresting, Does Cyrannian have his fiction in some form of writing, I'm curiuous to see how he interperates math this hardcore
13:08.48Wormy_He created a short summary, I told him I would try to understand it better then write it for him
13:09.50DarcySupremestRight
13:10.29DarcySupremestI get that we in this fiction orperate you know outside regular contstraints and have a lot of suspension of disbelief in regards to physics
13:10.48Wormy_Cyrannian wanted a reactionless drive but I explained warp drives basically are them.  And then I found that
13:10.58Wormy_A lot of it is yes
13:11.18DarcySupremestBut yeah reading this
13:11.29DarcySupremestI don't think it can reach FTL
13:11.53Wormy_A couple of writers here (Me, Ghel, GD12, Random) try to base it on more realistic physics and constraints.
13:12.10Wormy_But realism mushed to its conjectural extremes of course
13:12.13Wormy_*pushed
13:12.34DarcySupremestBut then again I don't like study physics at a high level so I wouldn't know if I'm wrong
13:13.11DarcySupremestYeah I just went with standard Sci-Fi tropes, which I was told was the usual gig, Warp and Hyper Drives
13:15.13Wormy_I think the drive can achieve FTL with a strong enough warp
13:15.17Wormy_Which makes it
13:15.22Wormy_a warp drive
13:15.59Wormy_But with a slight different mechanism
13:16.58Wormy_I actually feel we have grabbed so many technologies and physics concepts there isn't much left, at least from sources we understand
13:17.54DarcySupremestYeah FTL is fucking hard, its pretty telling when even science fiction can only really get variations on the same two principals
13:19.24DarcySupremestI suppose you could have dimensional dirves, have a craft that moves on like a seventh dimensional plain to achieve FTL now I think about it, or would that still classify as a hyperdrive
13:23.31GhelI'm fairly sure the method outlined in that paper can't achieve FTL.
13:24.26DarcySupremestYeah I'm getting the feeling that it still operates in realspace
13:26.35GhelOh, it's definitely a realspace thing.
13:27.30GhelBut that's mainly because the sci-fi idea of hyperspace is almost nothing like anything in real physics. There are ideas for achieving FTL using extra dimensions, but they're hardly comparable.
13:27.51Wormy_It doesn't matter if it can't, STL drives must still be very important, especially since an FTL vehicle would overtake a STL drive ship
13:29.16Wormy_Hyperspace in the SporeWikiverse is hinted to be an artificial structure
13:29.59DarcySupremestOh shit I hope Dimensions aren't a canon thing
13:30.13DarcySupremestI was planning on doing extradimensional fuckery in one of my novels
13:30.21Wormy_It may give the illusion of not being realspace.
13:31.09Wormy_Oh, extra dimensional physics are in SW universe, hyperspace or not.
13:32.12DarcySupremestNo I mean like do the dimensions in the SW Verse have a predetermined fiction or set of rules
13:32.42DarcySupremestIf you get me
13:33.08DarcySupremestlike you said the plain the hyperdrives operate on in the SW verse is hintingly artificial
13:33.19Wormy_Nah, they are a free and open playground for handwavium
13:33.40Wormy_Its only going to be hinted, reather than proved
13:34.17Wormy_And if it is hinted, you could still do extradimensional fuckery
13:34.26Wormy_*if it is true
13:37.13DarcySupremestOkay thats a relief
13:37.23DarcySupremestI was worried I nearly lost a whole faction there
13:45.01GhelHyperspace is basically magic. While Essence is currently "explained" in the fictionverse as being a hyperspatial phenomenon, if anything it might make at least as much sense for it to be the other way around.
13:46.08GhelHence the "free and open playground for handwavium" is probably the way it's always going to be.
13:49.37Wormy_It can be assumed inhabitants of the sci-fiverse understand hyperspace better
13:49.58Wormy_But essentially magic is how we treat it
13:50.21Wormy_for hyperspace and essence
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14:57.06HachimanHa
14:57.09HachimanHai*
14:57.10OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
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14:57.10HachimanNgh brb
14:57.13Hachiman<3
14:57.13OluapWorkernu
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14:57.33HachimanDum loading bar in front of textbox again
14:57.39OluapWorkerfuk u dunt run from me
15:04.13Hachimanhttp://www1.theladbible.com/images/content/630w/54b7c6835b0b1.jpg So these are the characters for the new Thunderbirds
15:05.34XhoTerrifying
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15:05.53TechnobliteratorRemoving War of Ages link due to the idea being dead
15:05.56TechnobliteratorA shame
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15:06.00HachimanSo War of Ages is dead
15:06.02HachimanFuck
15:06.11GD12hmm?
15:06.14HachimanMay as well delete Nym Khavaasi page then since he's not going to be used
15:06.25TechnobliteratorKeep it around
15:06.47TechnobliteratorI kept Xaltsa's page around and I only used him in some minor unfinished thing
15:06.59OluapWorkerBy that logic I should delete all the Dawn Wardens since they don't appear in stories
15:07.29TechnobliteratorWoA is dead due to lack of interest in the other potential leading users other than myself
15:07.38TechnobliteratorBetter to let it die than force it
15:08.05HachimanBut there's a difference with the Dawn Wardens and Nym
15:08.16HachimanThe Dawn Wardens were made with the intention of being background characters
15:08.24HachimanNym was made with intention for use in the WoA
15:08.38XhoMy headache has gone full Super Saiyan now
15:08.43XhoI actually want to die now
15:09.14TechnobliteratorBeing unused does not mean being unworthy of having around
15:09.29HachimanNeedless to say I am rather disappointed nobody wants to take up leading the WoA
15:09.52TechnobliteratorI am upset too, but there's nothing I can do about it
15:10.24HachimanSince it is probably never going to happen now I may as well just reveal the implications behind Nym
15:10.38TechnobliteratorWe can throw it in the "may try it later" pile
15:11.05TechnobliteratorAlong with the Taldar page rewrite, which I doubt I'm going to get to
15:11.46Technobliteratormostly because I'm juggling two incredibly different ideas for it
15:12.37HachimanYou have probably gathered by now that Nym is Hachiman's father, although he is not the son of the "Shingen Shinha" character mentioned on the page
15:13.55HachimanShingen was supposed to have died during the WoA and Nym would have retired from service and falsified claims of his own death in/near the 2770s where he would proceed to change his name to protect his identity and settled down
15:15.13HachimanUsing financial leftovers to buy a small estate and a woman whom would serve as his wife in a loveless relationship that would spawn Hachiman
15:15.39TechnobliteratorFalsified claims or faked them?
15:15.44HachimanFaked them
15:15.52Technobliteratoralright
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15:17.12TechnobliteratorThere is definite potential for the idea, even if the WoA remake never happens that can find use
15:17.16TechnobliteratorI like it, personally
15:18.54HachimanIt was intended that Nym's acts during the WoA put him higher on the galactic radar and sacrificed his privacy along with the Gigaquadrant generally becoming a more dangerous place throughout in the aftermath of the war
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15:21.33Hachiman_Fucking dumternet honestly
15:23.55HachimanIt was intended that due to his involvement in the War of Ages he unwittingly raised awareness of himself on the galactic radar and largely sacrificed his privacy, increasing the chances of attacks on his company and himself by underground  that thrived in the aftermath of the war along with the Gigaquadrant becoming a more dangerous place in general
15:24.09Wormy_awayXho:  Is it like a migraine?
15:25.32HachimanNym finished any personal missions he could, proceeded to create claims of his own death to circulate throughout the Milky Way and other places in the Gigaquadrant, and retired himself to a simple lifestyle along with a woman to spend his financial leftovers with which resulted in Hachi being born in 2777
15:26.38HachimanAs for what happened to the Rim Legionnaires Intergalactic company I am unsure, either it is being led under new management or has been dissolved
15:28.15HachimanIf Hachiman had been born to Nym and Shingen as Nym would have eventually intended - since the two were supposed to be romantically involved once again during the War of Ages - then Hachiman would have been called Kaum Khavaasi
15:32.38Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10580967_377419759085392_1838089587588639419_o.png
15:39.40Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10015658_579425192192647_6320454993239438145_n.png?oh=116b71cc14212773573e830126ac5691&oe=55288BB3&__gda__=1428882287_ca7aff503aa1c3add41e81c0f01602bb
15:47.42Wormy_awayYou know, I don't think we have the motivation for plan and organise big fictions anymore.  Which is strange when big fiction sagas are ongoing.
15:48.32Wormy_awayPerhaps that is the way things are now, certain fictions simply become active without the same intention
15:49.08HachimanIt would appear small-scale fictions are more populous by now
15:49.46Wormy_awayI thought the WoA had a better start than even Uncharted Expanse, given its wide interest.  But it wasn't sustainable.
15:50.06Wormy_awayyeah
15:50.32Wormy_awayGiven their diverging paths is probably getting too hard to even organise them into a singular epic
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15:50.53HachimanOh well
15:51.00HachimanMight just do a story thing with just Nym
15:51.09HachimanHello Imp
15:51.18Wormy_awayIt used to be useful, at least in my fiction, if there was like a network of different storylines.
15:52.10Wormy_awayWhat we could do, is take the ideas we like from things like Uncharted Expanse, and make shrter, smaller and more personal stories.  And then afterwards, link them onto a page describing the events.
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15:52.31Wormy_awayI imagine there might be clashes of taste
15:52.45Wormy_away*might be less
15:54.58ImperiosHi Hachi, hi everyone else
15:55.29Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421333862002.jpg Heh
15:55.44ImperiosSucks for Oluap hur
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15:58.03Wormy_awayhi
15:58.30GD12He
15:58.33GD12*y
15:58.34GD12Random thing
15:58.36GD12http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny#Anthem
15:58.41ImperiosHachiman: http://krautchan.net/files/1421336854001.jpg
15:58.43GD12Can be sung to the tune of O Fortuna
15:58.53GD12which has an instrumental link provided at the bottom of the section
15:59.35Wormy_away10 Things You Should Never Do  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L3oak6czQQ
16:00.34HachimanImperios: That person disgusts me on a fundamental level
16:00.54ImperiosThat person is most likely just kidding
16:00.59HachimanOh yeah
16:01.03HachimanLook at all the shit on his wall
16:01.15HachimanAnd his manga collection
16:01.25Imperios...Point taken
16:02.17HachimanAlso any person willing to spend money for a body pillow - satirical or not - is an idiot hur
16:02.50ImperiosI think Alyona has one
16:02.52ImperiosI think
16:03.11Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421337052001.png And speaking of which, behold: edible Polandballs
16:04.23HachimanThe thing is I do not understand why so much shitty content comes out of anime considering that Western animation cannot be utilized for the same thing
16:05.06HachimanAnd anime derives from Western animation due to the American occupation of Japan in the 1940s/50s
16:05.32ImperiosExoticism, Orientalism, anime being more willing to adopt modern themes
16:06.01XhoWormy_away: Flu
16:06.17ImperiosIt does not derive from Western animation per se, no more than, say, modern gunpowder is "derived" from Chinese gunpowder
16:06.50HachimanNonetheless
16:07.43HachimanSometimes Japan disgusts me because of shit like this and what is funny is that a majority of standard Japanese people share mutual feelings on the subject against it
16:08.10Wormy_awayAh
16:08.15Wormy_awayYes, that flu
16:08.33XhoI just went to lie down
16:08.36Wormy_awayA new strain came about and thats why everybody is going down with it
16:09.24ImperiosHachiman: Tell me what does *not* disgust you hur
16:09.38ImperiosYou are so prone to anger hur
16:10.02ImperiosThe picture was supposed to be funny
16:10.18HachimanI'm tired hur
16:12.06Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421336662001.jpg
16:12.21Hachiman"krautchan"
16:12.25Hachimandat
16:13.39Xhokuraoto-chan~
16:13.59ImperiosThat's a German imageboard
16:14.04Wormy_awayThe Windows Invasion http://tek-bull.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Error-Message-Sky-e1327284277492.jpg
16:14.12ImperiosIt is the place where Polandball originated
16:14.15Wormy_awayThat's a real image
16:14.22Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421337052001.png
16:14.32XhoWhat are those anyway
16:14.44XhoLooks like nigiri but it's not nigiri
16:14.53Wormy_awayWhat happened, was that a projector was supposed to beam an image into the clouds, but instead had a Windows error...
16:15.42Xho"404 Universal Destroyer Not Found"
16:16.09Wormy_away"Universe.exe crashed" http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20091111/ad_error_box_02.jpg
16:18.30ImperiosXho: Edible Ukrainian flags
16:19.38XhoPutin's favourite
16:20.34ImperiosFunny thing is that photo is from my Ukrainian friend
16:20.45ImperiosYou know the K-Pop fangirl
16:21.19Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421338147001.jpg Apparently Brits are the gayest people in Europe hur
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16:21.56MonetHello
16:21.58ImperiosHi
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16:22.10Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421338147001.jpg Apparently Brits are the gayest people in Europe hur
16:22.12GD12Hey
16:22.13Monethttp://www.forbes.com/2008/12/18/expensive-fictional-homes-forbeslife-fictional1508-cx_mn_de_expensivehomes_slide.html So Forbes decided to estimate the most luxurious residences in fiction
16:22.18XhoImperios: Even then discrimination's still fairly noticeable
16:22.32GD12Monet : Did you see theDominatus anthem I put up
16:22.50ImperiosAdmittedly most famous gay people I can think of (particularily those I respect) are British
16:23.10ImperiosThe field I study in university was actually founded by one
16:23.20ImperiosI mean, a gay Brit
16:23.24XhoSomehow Vault 101 makes it
16:23.29XhoVault 101 is a shithole
16:23.47MonetXho: An expensive shithole.
16:23.56GD12Alan Turing is probably the most famous gay British person I've heard of
16:24.15ImperiosYep him
16:24.25ImperiosMathematical linguistics was founded by him
16:25.03ImperiosMonet: http://krautchan.net/files/1421336854001.jpg
16:25.05MonetStephen Fry, Hugh Laurie, Julian Clary and Freddie Mercury are more examples.
16:25.34MonetActually I don't know about Laurie
16:26.07MonetEddie Izzard possibly although he's also a known transvestite.
16:26.10Imperios...I just realised that Freddie Mercury is British and not American
16:26.11Imperiosdum me
16:26.28ImperiosLet us not forget Oscar Wilde
16:26.38XhoHugh Laurie is straight
16:26.52XhoAnd Freddie was bisexual hur
16:26.53MonetRight.
16:26.58ImperiosStill LGBT hur
16:27.09MonetI knew Fry is gay.
16:27.36ImperiosThat and crossdressing is your national tradition hur
16:27.40MonetLol
16:27.51MonetRich Manor I'm not surprised that's no. 2
16:28.38XhoI thought our national tradition was burning homosexuals at the stake
16:28.41MonetThe Rich Family's assets are literally infinite.
16:28.48XhoOur traditions haven't evolved much from the 14th Century
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16:29.40ImperiosXho: That's *our* tradition hur
16:29.52ImperiosI was referring to the tradition of English families to dress their kids in drag
16:29.57Xho21st Century tradition hoh
16:30.16ImperiosThat's a pretty odd conversation to return to
16:30.20XhoI've had my nails painted but to my knowledge never been cross-dressed
16:31.05GD12Aye, Oscar Wilde and Freddie Mercury were the only two other gay Brits I know of
16:31.20XhoWilliam Shakespeare might have been
16:31.22HachimanImplying Shakespearan cross-dressing was not a prominent thing in English history hur
16:31.24MonetAFAIK the size of the Rich mangion is officially defined as "whatever fits the story"
16:31.41ImperiosXho: Holy shit yes
16:31.42MonetHachiman: Actually in a way Impy has a point
16:32.01MonetBritish theatre was traditionally a male occupation
16:32.05ImperiosI remember reading Shakespeare's Sonnets when I was like 10
16:32.05GD12Aye
16:32.06XhoI had an odd childhood come to think of it
16:32.16ImperiosI actually came to my parents and asked if Shakespeare was gay
16:32.25GD12Prepubescent boys in love scenes with older men
16:32.26ImperiosAnd they were as confused as I was
16:32.31GD12= THEATER
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16:32.40HachimanAlthough I suppose that the cross-dressing thing when it came to Shakespearean plays was most rooted towards the existence of gender inequality rather than male homosexuality
16:32.43ImperiosGD12: WELCOME TO ANCIENT GREECE
16:32.46MonetSo men going onstage in drag was pretty normal in the 1600s
16:32.52ImperiosThese two things are interconnected
16:32.58GD12Imperios : Pedestrasty or whatever it was called hur
16:33.02XhoI think most Greek theatre performances never included women
16:33.03ImperiosAye
16:33.11ImperiosConsider the two ancient cultures where male homosexuality was widely accepted
16:33.13ImperiosJapan
16:33.17Imperiosand Greece
16:33.27ImperiosBoth were quite patriarchal
16:33.42HachimanJapan still is rather patriarchal
16:33.45MonetWomen performing in theatre is farily recent then.
16:33.48ImperiosAye
16:34.16ImperiosBECAUSE YOU DON'T EXPRESS YOUR LOVE TO A LOWLY SUBHUMAN DISH-WASHING CREATURE MEANT ONLY FOR REPRODUCTION
16:34.26XhoThe world is still rather patriarchal really
16:34.43XhoYou've got to think that women only gained the right to vote in 1918
16:34.44MonetEven today the role of Widow Twanky is a male one.
16:34.53ImperiosDepends on the culture
16:35.10XhoAnd British society in one way or another has dated back to Rome
16:35.12HachimanIt happens to be largely free-reign in Africa I imagine
16:35.14ImperiosI mean there were female Norse raiders
16:35.26ImperiosHachiman: It as in patriarchy
16:35.36ImperiosAnd Africa as in what part of Africa
16:35.51HachimanAfrica as in rural, non-industrialized or modernized Africa
16:36.14ImperiosThat's still pretty vague hur
16:36.21HachimanWomen were and are seen as important amongst African tribesmen
16:36.32ImperiosYep in some places
16:36.49ImperiosBut then again you have South Africa which is literally the rape capital of the world
16:36.56HachimanAye
16:37.01HachimanDunno much about how Native Americans treated women
16:37.07XhoAnd not Hamoins' dungeon unfortunately
16:37.09ImperiosDepends on the culture, again
16:37.10Xho>unfortunately
16:37.14ImperiosCause she's never met a nice South African
16:37.23ImperiosAnd that's not bloody surprising, mun
16:37.29XhoI've met a nice South African
16:37.34XhoHe was drunk though
16:37.54XhoAnd his accent wasn't that heavy either
16:38.03MonetI wonder where fictionverse residences would sit on that list and what our top "most extravogent residences" would be. Problem is I know hardly anything abotu valuing real-estate.
16:38.06ImperiosAnyway I believe it depends on what part of America we are talking about
16:38.17ImperiosIn general non-sedentary/nomadic cultures valued their women more
16:38.28ImperiosOr at least the less civilised one, like Scandinavians
16:38.32ImperiosIn comparison to Rome
16:38.47ImperiosOr Mongols in comparison to China
16:39.51Wormy_awayI remember reading about this tribe in Africa where women do the hunting and leadership, and choose men, and men have to do the village keeping
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16:40.26Wormy_awayhi
16:40.26GhelaeHello.
16:40.29HachimanHai Ghel
16:40.34Hachiman~give Ghelae a cookie
16:40.34infobotACTION gives Ghelae a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up.
16:41.03Ghelaeturns the cookie into swarm of kittens
16:41.07Ghelae~give Hachiman a cookie
16:41.08infobotACTION gives Hachiman a home-baked peanut butter cookie to cheer him up.
16:41.16Xhodies
16:42.02TekDroid~give Xho a kitten
16:42.02infobotACTION gives a kitten to Xho
16:42.15XhoGreat so now the kitten is going to eat me
16:42.34GD12Hi Ghelae
16:42.34Monet"I'm alergic to adoraleness!"
16:43.05MonetI guess one of the gigaquadrant's most extravogent residences would certainly be the Aknatazan residence.
16:43.40ImperiosClassy cyberpunk
16:43.46XhoKithworto - big palace tower I'm never actually in nowadays
16:45.03Imperioshttp://krautchan.net/files/1421328901001.jpg Holy shit
16:45.11MonetImperial palace oculd be another one but idk...Forbes aren't counting castles and the Imperial palace is part-fortress.
16:45.25HachimanThe fuck
16:45.27ImperiosEmpire of Man's recruitment poster hur
16:46.30ImperiosThe guy on the bottom left is actually the son of the Chinese president that ruled during WWII
16:46.38ImperiosThe non-Communist one
16:46.59GD12*extravagant?
16:47.09GD12How about the Royal Palace on Alcanti?
16:47.26MonetGD12: I had wondered yeah.
16:47.46MonetBut I wonder if it straddles the line between castle and mansion.
16:48.07MonetIt's a bit of a blur tbh as you'd need bunker-busters to damage the lower levels.
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16:49.01ImperiosMonet Hachiman: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=291034107
16:49.32Hachimanhur
16:49.42MonetPedro won, but needs money.
16:52.17MonetI wonder if I should write up a brief Imperial Fortune 500 - I won't do the full 500 though
16:52.51XhoTop 10 hur
16:53.02MonetTop 10/20 works.
16:53.32MonetAlthough given the size of the Imperium "Fortune 5000" might be a better title lol
16:53.33XhoKithworto's home on Anatezc-ji 0 is rather stately but not as grand as House Aknatazán's Tower
16:53.51HachimanImplying only the Imperium has nice things
16:54.20MonetHachiman: I understand that last time a fortune 500 was tried here there was a massive dickwaving contest
16:54.24XhoAny Kicath controlling as many assets as Kithworto could own a residence like that and Kithworto only has a residence like that because of the reason of him being Kithworto
16:54.39MonetSo I thought about keeping to the Imperium so there are no arguments.
16:54.42XhoThat was a convoluted sentence
16:55.30Monet"Any Kicath as rich as Kithworto could have such a residence but Kithworto only has it because he's Kithworto"
16:55.41XhoPretty much yes
16:56.11XhoStandalone there are many Kicath hypothetically richer than Kithworto
16:56.22XhoMuch of Kithworto's hypothetical wealth comes from his surname alone
16:56.31MonetListing the richest i nthe universe is obvious flame war bait.
16:56.54XhoAnd since much of his possessions come from his status rather than wealth he needn't use it
16:57.04ImperiosI don't think I would be able to contribute to that list
16:57.09XhoThen again a mark of Kicathian wealth is the number of assets and their value, not net worth
16:57.18ImperiosNTA and Coalition are relatively minor superpowers
16:57.36ImperiosAnd the Divinarium is a socialist state
16:57.57XhoKithworto's uncle however is within the Top 5 of richest Kicath, perhaps #2
16:58.34MonetImperios: AFAIK Germany's influence doesn't go far beyond EUrope
16:58.44MonetAside fro mfancy cars
16:59.16MonetAnd yet BMW is currently one of the top 10 of the Fortune 500
17:00.12ImperiosTrue
17:00.21ImperiosActually
17:01.09ImperiosWait are we talking about individuals or companies ATM
17:02.16GD12fortune 500 = companies
17:02.20GD12forbes 400 = people
17:02.23XhoIf anything the heads of the main pharmaceutical/weaponry manufacturers in the Remnant are wealthy on a surreal level
17:02.55ImperiosTalking of individuals an Artharon or two could spot on the list
17:02.59GD12kinda like irl
17:03.01ImperiosAnd/or a Neo-Tertamian
17:03.09GD12since the defense and healthcare industries are fucking massive
17:03.12XhoThe two heads of those companies would probably compare to Bill Gates in terms of wealth
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17:03.14GD12at least in muh-rica
17:04.55MonetImperios: I can see a neo-tertamian being on the Forbes 400
17:04.59XhoIf Kithworto's personal wealth was a 1, those two individuals would probably be between 100,000 - 1,000,000 relatively
17:06.20XhoThe Kicathian economy is difficult to translate into the Gigaquadrantic economy
17:06.31MonetI know it's unfair to add royalties to the list of the universe's wealthiest but unlike the English Royal Family, some Ultanos are pominent businessmen/women
17:07.13HachimanJust looks like another dickwaving contest to me
17:07.27XhoIt would be if it were doing the entire wiki
17:07.29MonetHachiman: THis is why I considered keeping to the Imperium.
17:07.47HachimanThen it is the Imperium exclusively doing the dickwaving
17:08.11XhoIf we were on about the entire wiki I'd probably assume that Emperor Wormulus or Tyrómarion as the richest individual
17:08.15MonetWith themselves?
17:09.18GD12Another thing to distinguish = personal wealth and wealth at disposal
17:09.36GD12because for heads of state, it gets different if you incorporate the entire national economy into their wallet
17:10.18MonetGD12: Hence my concern that including headsof state is unfair
17:10.27GD12aye
17:11.37MonetIn this case, Emperor Wormulus or Tyrómarion could be examples because they are the leaders of the two most prominent hyperpowers in the gigaquadrant.
17:12.14MonetThus their measured assets could be mistaken for their empries' assets.
17:12.25Monet...other way round
17:13.02XhoHm
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17:13.17MonetKithworto could be an exception because Xho has made a clear distinction between the assets of the Remnant and House Aknatazan.
17:13.21odellI hate myself so much right now.
17:13.22XhoIf we were to measure Kicathian wealth I dunno what currency you'd do it under
17:13.40XhoBorealis Galaxy Credit is likely since the GITO recognises the Kicathian economical centre in Borealis
17:13.52XhoYeah
17:14.01odellI walked home with two other classmates. But they lived at an other place that happened to have the same path where my bus stop is located.
17:14.07XhoHigh-end Kicathian houses run their own economies really
17:14.11XhoPerks of post-scarcity
17:14.36MonetXho: The Cyrannian Cubit, Mimidian Credit and Borealis Credit are all viable international currencies I guess.
17:14.40odellWhen we arrived to the place. The bus stop where my bus go to a direction leading me home was on the other side of the road.
17:15.03MonetIf we're talking Gigaquadrant
17:15.19MonetIf we're talking borealis then yeah, measuring by the Borealis credit makes sense
17:15.41XhoI mean Gigaquadrant since the Kicath base themselves in two galaxies with no internal currency
17:15.41odellBut the bus was about to stop already. So I became unaware of the roads. I jumped out rushing for the stop, I got almost driven over by a car.
17:16.07XhoOdell: DIDN'T THE HEDGEHOG TELL YOU TO LOOK BOTH WAYS
17:16.36odellXho: Way to make my stressful life more pissy.
17:16.53XhoGetting almost smacked by a car is hardly stressful
17:17.02odellFuck cities. Fuck schueldes, fuck everything about cities.
17:17.30MonetXho: It can be terrifying though
17:17.41XhoSuppose  so
17:17.53Hachimanodell: More like be more careful next time, not the fault of the city you almost got yourself injured
17:18.09XhoOBEY THE HEDGEHOG
17:18.14odellIt happened so fast that I don't even remember it few seconds after the incident.
17:18.17HachimanAye obey the hedgehog
17:18.34Xhohttp://www.iwight.com/azservices/images/110-hedgehog.GIF You know, this smug cunt
17:18.52odellThe only thing I remember from it was before and after. Plus, the two headlights that cut through the darkness on my left side.
17:19.01Monet"Obey these rules and you'll be"
17:19.07Monet"King of the road!"
17:19.40Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI4Ye4EZo00 here we go
17:19.50odellBikers > hedgehogs
17:20.01odellCyclists*
17:20.05odellGoddamnit
17:20.11HachimanThe hedgehog sings like an Ork
17:20.14XhoI hate cyclists
17:20.36MonetXho: If ew're talking all of the gigaquadrant I'm nto sure
17:20.54XhoSporebuck if that's actually a canon currency I guess
17:21.40odellSorry for derailing your GQ talk for a moment. But I hate myself so much so I had to get it out of my chest, get what I deserve.
17:21.55XhoA cyclist decided to drive past me once as I was emerging from a junction
17:21.58MonetXonexi I guess the either Mimidian Credit or French Gilo might be king.
17:22.08MonetBut now Borealis is in it's own cluster
17:22.44HachimanWhy would either be the currency of the Gigaquadrant
17:22.48MonetAlso I just rememebred that GITO does not trade with one specific currency - it all depends on who is trading with who.
17:23.02XhoHm
17:23.13MonetHachiman: Not a strict one
17:23.17XhoI dunno how the Borealis Credit fares against the Gigaquadrantic currencies
17:23.20odellBikers really need to fuck off the pedestrian roads.
17:23.40XhoThe Kicath might seem it unfair if it's not a strong currency to trade with the items they manufacture
17:24.05Xhosee*
17:24.06MonetThe US dollar is used often in international transactions and measuring value, but that doesn't make it the de-facto currency of Earth.
17:24.26HachimanWhy would it matter if they do not use money themselves
17:24.41HachimanThey're a post-scarcity society, they have no need of money
17:24.51MonetBecause not everyone has adopted post-scarcity.
17:25.08XhoYeah
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17:25.26XhoThe Kicath have some isolated 'external economy' they use to trade with outside economies
17:25.46XhoSo it makes them viable for trade, otherwise one couldn't interact with the Kicath in terms of money
17:26.44MonetMaybe give the kicath an external currency unit?
17:27.00MonetSomething used exclusively for internationa ltrade.
17:27.25XhoI dunno
17:27.54XhoIf the Kicath don't consider it highly valuable to their main post-scarce economy, other nations might not consider it valuable
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17:28.25HachimanImperios: https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1977181_1264646130249241_8536200539910896176_n.png?oh=bf7d47a85c73685e3ea1e31b123d1df1&oe=55282475
17:28.35ImperiosHur
17:29.42MonetXho: The value of this currency could be regulated as some kind of hardline representative value.
17:29.46XhoSo they could get a highly advanced borderline Tier 1 tech for almost nothing
17:30.13GD12_what are we talking about
17:30.14XhoSuppose that could work
17:30.20ImperiosMonet Hachiman: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/295/8/a/the_avengers_age_of_ultron_67851_by_nebezial-d83tooc.jpg
17:30.25XhoBasically how the Kicath could interact in terms of currencies
17:30.27MonetThe government could set up a currency that has a value dictated by the government.
17:30.42MonetImperios: I...I never noticed
17:30.52HachimanUltron looks fucking dumb
17:30.57GD12_i c
17:30.59XhoUltron - THE GETH WILL RULE THE GALAXY
17:31.04XhoMonet: Suppose that would work
17:31.14MonetI like the look of Ultron's drones
17:31.27HachimanExtraterrestrial alien machine -> Looks like a generic robotic humanoid
17:31.44MonetHachiman: Ultron's not an alien.
17:31.45HachimanThen again it is Marvel so do not expect complexity in its character designs or storyline
17:32.23Xhostahp bein angry dam u
17:32.24GD12_gtg
17:33.25MonetUltron looks humanoid because in the comics Hank Pym built him with his own brain patterns
17:34.03MonetFrom what I hear, Tony Stark in the upcoming film designs Ultron with Jarvis being a template.
17:34.32ImperiosHachiman: What *doesn't* look fucking dumb in your eyes hur
17:36.47MonetI prefer http://emertainmentmonthly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/age-of-ulton-e1364785990843.jpg this face because that's his comic look. Then again I can see why they gave him a humanoid face: To make him more connectable.
17:38.02MonetUltron being angry or sly will have much more of an emotional impact if he can make the related expressions. Which is borderline impossible with the permenant shit-eating-grin he has in the ocmics.
17:38.18MonetThis ultron hits right bang i nthe depest level of Uncanny Valley.
17:39.28ImperiosBesides he is supposed to be more humanlike in terms of characterisation than its comics counterpart
17:39.33ImperiosOkay, admittedly
17:39.42ImperiosThat new Iron Man armour looks very stupid
17:39.58MonetThe Hulkbuster?
17:40.46ImperiosYa
17:41.03HachimanLooks like a Space Marine Centurion
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17:41.28HachimanBatman used a similar-looking armour in the cartoons fight and brawl with Superman
17:41.42MonetImperios: In the comics Ultron is pretty much "AARG I hate humanity eat shit daddy!"
17:41.54ImperiosHachiman: An Iron Man INSIDE of an Iron Man
17:42.18ImperiosMonet: rite
17:42.31ImperiosTBH I barely remember Ultron from my childhood
17:42.53MonetAlso coupled with a generous dose of grandmaster-level mastermind.
17:42.57ImperiosThe villains I remember the best are Mandarin and the Leader
17:43.13ImperiosOh and Cheetah but she's not from Marvel
17:44.10ImperiosAll I remember about Ultron is that he made Vision
17:44.17ImperiosAnd Vision was a cool guy
17:45.55HachimanI reckon people are still sore over Hank Pym not being accredited as the founder of the Avengers or apparently Ultron's creator in the Avengers films
17:46.13ImperiosYep, fanboys are fanboys
17:46.32ImperiosAdmittedly his powers are hard to translate into live-action without making it look stupid
17:46.57HachimanI still find black eyepatch-wearing Nick Fury to be much more awesome in terms of character
17:47.00MonetThere's already rage over the upcoming Ant Man
17:47.16ImperiosNick Fury is love, Nick Fury is life
17:47.19MonetFor one, Ant Man won't be Pym as far as we can tell.
17:47.46ImperiosThough I'd like him to have hair
17:47.49MonetPym wil lbe in it, but Ant Man will possibly be Scott Lang
17:47.50HachimanPlus why would the Avengers need a size-changing intellectual powerhouse when they already have Bruce Banner
17:48.03Imperios^ makes sense
17:48.05MonetHachiman: It worked in the comics.
17:48.45HachimanHulk will always be my favourite Marvel character for me hur
17:48.49MonetAlthough Pym's advantage over Banner was that he wa sstill a genius as Giant Man
17:48.59Monethe is still*
17:49.38MonetAlso don't forget Ant Man has another superpower: COntrol over insects.
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17:49.51MonetIt sounds stupid I know but it has helped them several times
17:49.57ImperiosHulk is love, Hulk is life
17:50.04HachimanTo me Ant Man is about as useful as the Fantastic Four
17:50.08HachimanThat is to say, not at all
17:50.17Monet*except when Galactus appears
17:50.43ImperiosAnt-Man may be cool but imagine him in live-action
17:50.57ImperiosThat'd look so... off
17:51.04HachimanIt really would
17:51.25HachimanHulk meanwhile
17:51.52odellGlorious neutrality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen_(pronoun)
17:52.41HachimanI also like Bruce more than Hank given that Bruce has much more conflict to his character
17:52.53MonetI mostly agree with the F4: In Civil War Reed was too busy with maths, Johnny had the ever-loving shit knocked out of him and spent the entire story in hospital, Sue tried to keep away fro mboth sides, I think only Ben was proactive.
17:53.38HachimanBruce is both potentially the smartest and strongest mortal character within the Marvel continuity yet he cannot be those two things at the same time
17:54.09ImperiosI wonder if there'll be some adaptation of the Grey Hulk persona in the moveiverse
17:54.12ImperiosThat'd be fnun
17:54.24MonetActually come to think of it...Reed asn't fulyl useless in Civil War
17:54.54MonetHe brainstormed with Tony over ideas to revolutionise the world including cloning Thor and designing the Negative Zone prison.
17:55.41MonetThe nagain there are few continuities where the negative zone prison lasts a significant amount of time.
17:56.32ImperiosI do not even understand what you are talking about
17:56.51ImperiosVodka balalaika no understand bourgeosie comics
17:56.54Monethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_correctional_facilities_in_comics#Negative_Zone_Prison_Alpha
17:57.16ImperiosI think I only remember one comic book storyline that I read completely
17:57.19MonetIf the controversy over it does blow over, either it gets attacked by Annilhus or has to be closed down as long-term periods spent i nthe negative zone lead to depression.
17:57.21ImperiosThat death match thing
17:57.28ImperiosWhere heroes were pitted against one another
17:57.51ImperiosAlso there was M-Day and Civil War but I only read these sporadically
17:58.07ImperiosAnd that storyline
17:58.12ImperiosAll I remember is that Thanos killed everyone
17:58.12HachimanI remember Marvel: Zombies
17:58.22HachimanGod Marvel: Zombies was dum hur
17:58.27ImperiosAnd that the Grim Reaper lady got angry at him because she kinda lost her job
17:58.39ImperiosAnd because that lady was Thanos's waifu he got bawwww
17:58.57MonetYou mean Death?
17:59.06ImperiosYa Lady Death
17:59.20HachimanLady Death is not the same as Death hur
17:59.34MonetThere's Death and then there's Lady Deathstrike
17:59.45ImperiosNot the naked bisexual one, the other one
17:59.58ImperiosI think she had a burning head
18:00.37MonetThe girl with adamantium nail-claws?
18:01.18XhoDoes anyone here want to do Shroud of the Sun whilst I remember
18:01.23ImperiosNo, no
18:01.33Xhoaw
18:01.35ImperiosNot Wolverine's rogue
18:01.39ImperiosThanos's waifu
18:01.42Imperioshttp://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/38919/1772873-lady_chaos__death____innvervisions.jpg That one
18:02.00MonetThanos's gf is Death.
18:02.05Imperioshttp://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/200066_press01-001.jpg Yes her
18:02.07ImperiosMistress Death
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18:02.19ImperiosII swear she was called Lady Death in Russian
18:02.20GD12Hi there
18:02.33HachimanGuess I could RP is Oluap is up for it
18:02.37ImperiosDitto
18:02.38Hachiman*if
18:02.47GD12Charles_Murray : The Dominatus ANthem http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny#Anthem which can be sung to the tune of O Fortuna
18:02.58OluapWorkerok
18:03.03MonetImperios: Possibly
18:03.05Charles_MurrayNice!
18:03.10Xho#ShroudoftheSauce
18:03.27GD12it can actually be sung because each line has the corresponding amount of syllables to the lines in the actual hymm
18:04.03Tek0516In English or Dominatus? :P
18:04.08GD12english
18:04.13ImperiosBTW am I to understand that the whole "Thanos tries to kill everyone" thing is going to be the Movieverse's grand finale
18:04.27GD12No way in well I'm writing all of that in Dominatus speak
18:04.43Tek0516loo
18:04.47Tek0516*lol
18:04.51ImperiosGD12: ASD ASD ASD ASDF ASD ASD AS DASF ASDAFASDAFASDAF
18:04.53ImperiosDere anthem
18:05.07GD12You listened to it to the sound of O Fortuna?
18:05.36MonetImperios: If GotG is to be believed. he's been doing it for a while now. But the finale will probably be a big push moment
18:06.08Tek0516He'll presumably get his hands on the infinity stones before or during it.
18:06.11MonetNebula and Gamorra are girls he adopted after destroying their respective home planets
18:06.37MonetSo deep down I guess he's a nice bloke.
18:07.03XhoDisregarding the fact he's called the Mad Titan
18:07.34MonetEven evil people can be nice
18:07.35Tek0516Isn't all the genocide supposed to be trying to please Death or something?
18:07.57MonetYeah, everything he does is to impress his girlfriend.
18:08.19MonetBut she's most happy when she gets to ressurect him in particular
18:08.47MonetSInce in the comics when he gained the infinity gauntlet, she left him because he was impossible to kill.
18:09.20GD12Imperios : You listened to the anthem?
18:10.01MonetBecomes all-powerful -> his gf dumps him
18:11.19MonetTHen again I suppose one way of looking at it is once getting the infinity gauntlet, he was fully capable of doing her job.
18:13.17Hachimanhttp://uniladmag.com/articles/this-woman-has-the-biggest-boobs-on-the-planet-literally/ What the fuck
18:13.38MonetI aint clicking that
18:13.57ImpyDroidouch
18:14.29XhoHachiman: SPINES ARE FOR PUSSIES
18:14.30GD12Like shes pregnant with full grown people in each of her boobs
18:14.42TekDroidO.9
18:14.48TekDroid*O.o
18:15.15OluapWorker~vomit Hachiman
18:15.23OluapWorkerCould swear that was a command
18:15.57Xho~throw up on Hachiman
18:15.57infobotACTION winds up and throws up on Hachiman over the moon.
18:16.04XhoTrickshot
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18:18.44odellHachiman: So much cringe
18:18.58HachimanXho: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=358419230934340
18:24.12odellXho: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7539801/kaboom.webm
18:26.08XhoNu's acceptance speech for something
18:36.04Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10940582_1566569993560070_7815280466502989580_n.jpg?oh=4e22f610af97aaac9183e4fe5b7b44e7&oe=5522D926&__gda__=1429545292_54da6b5d7bccd740f610b99679aa2767 I know a person like this irl except he's super skinny and has a stupid haircut
18:39.02MonetHachiman: You have my sympathies.
18:39.50HachimanHe also pretends to be a furry so he can fuck the otherkin and furry girls that hang around near the college campus
18:41.15MonetWierdo.
18:41.22GD12whats an otherkin
18:41.46HachimanSomebody that believes their 'soul' is not human
18:41.56GD12?????
18:41.57HachimanThat they are something else, usually an animal, trapped in a human shell
18:42.08GD12Like they believe they are relly animals?
18:42.13HachimanYep
18:42.13GD12wot
18:42.15MonetDeep inside yeah
18:42.35HachimanMost of them reside on Tumblr alongside the feminazis
18:42.53MonetYou're nto alone: I look at Facebook after a long time to discover a pic of one of my former classmates is sporting a trilby, a neckbeard and fingerless gloves in one picture.
18:43.49GD12HAH
18:43.56odellNeckbeard is one heck of a contagious diease.
18:44.04GD12Well I don't even have a facebook
18:44.22GD12sobs quietly in a corner
18:44.33HachimanYou reside in China right?
18:44.38MonetHis outward transformation into pretentious nerd is complete.
18:44.46Monet(my classamte I mean)
18:44.49GD12No I'm a college student in the US
18:44.55HachimanAh right
18:44.58TekDroidYou're not missing much on Facebook anymore, GD.
18:45.03TekDroid-.-
18:45.13GD12*university student
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18:45.54odellFB isn't even worth using anymore.
18:45.59odellbtw: http://satwcomic.com/art/one-bird-in-the-hand.png
18:46.55Monet"sea parrot" is new to me
18:47.27MonetI've always known them as Puffins
18:48.25odellkea, "mountain parrots"
18:52.38Monethttp://satwcomic.com/greens England is right
18:52.55MonetWell, unless you g oto Pizza Hut
18:57.29odellFunny you say that, for when I was on vacation in London. We had salad to all of our meals.
18:58.14Monethttp://satwcomic.com/eurovision-2012 And as usual England is nowhere to be seen.
19:03.56odellSince when was UK never a pricky country?
19:04.43MonetActually I was referring to how we never win Eurovision.
19:07.26MonetWe're governed by snobs that's our problem.
19:14.26Wormy_awayWe used to win Eurovision and get higher on the leaderboard, but continental europeans didn't like our foreign policies in the 2000s
19:17.22MonetWell as Sean Hastings once said
19:17.35Monet"Europe tolerates us, like how someone tolerates Herpes"
19:17.51Monet"Europe tolerates us, like how someone tolerates living with Herpes"
19:21.17odellCharles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/KsWcUl2.png
19:29.54TekDroid>.< I had 10 minutes left in this season finale but I have to go to class.
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19:43.31DrodoEmpireHey everyone
19:44.55GhelHello.
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19:46.11MonetHello
19:46.34CyrannianHello.
19:46.45DrodoEmpireHi Cyrannian
19:46.50OluapWorker~slap Cyrannian
19:46.50infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
19:46.59Cyrannian~tickle OluapWorker
19:47.00infobotACTION jumps on OluapWorker, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
19:48.52Monethttp://satwcomic.com/merry-christms-2013 "What's wrong? The fire makes it taste great!"
19:49.29DrodoEmpirelol
19:51.38MonetI never really found setting fire to christmas pudding odd
19:51.47MonetHow is it percieved in Canada?
19:52.00DrodoEmpireNever seen it done personally
19:52.03DrodoEmpireProbably done though
19:52.42Wormy_awayI thought it was done everywhere
19:52.46DrodoEmpireMy family's Scottish and French, is that more of an English tradition?
19:52.52Wormy_awaytis tradition
19:53.00Wormy_awayIt seems to be
19:53.07DrodoEmpireAh, that'd explain it
19:53.35MonetDon't forget the coins
19:53.42DrodoEmpirePlus Nova Scotia is predominantly Celtic in ancestry; Not as many English-descended people here as you'd think, mostly Scottish and Irish
19:53.58DrodoEmpireSo I'm not surprised if I never seen it done or heard of it
19:54.03Wormy_awayhttp://www.jamieoliver.com/forum/uploadedimages/1385683123-Christmas%20Pudding%20fire%20wishes.jpg
19:54.19MonetCOme to think of it..I suppose christmas pudding is a little odd
19:54.27Wormy_awayI think that example went a bit wrong
19:54.37MonetYou mix coins into it, cook it, pour brandy over it then set fire t oit, then eat it
19:54.56Tek0516I don't even know what Christmas pudding is. >.>
19:54.57DrodoEmpireWell, Scottish, Irish, a bit of French/Acadian, and Mi'kmaq.
19:55.01Wormy_awayTbh, Christmas pudding in my family ends up staying in the cupboard for a couple of years and gets eaten not on Xmas
19:55.28Wormy_awayhttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rIR_U_GHDLg/TvJEXlDNF-I/AAAAAAAAFBQ/-DZ4H8EZheU/s1600/christmaspudding.jpg
19:55.53Wormy_awayIts a christmas cake, with brandy poured all over it, coins put inside and set alight
19:56.15DrodoEmpireHuh, nice
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20:05.19Monethttp://satwcomic.com/eurovision-2010 like I said, we never win
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20:06.07DrodoEmpireHey
20:06.28MonetHello
20:09.00GD12Hey Everyone!
20:11.35GD12People Who do RPs a lot - Would it be convenient if I made an automated procedure for coding RPs?
20:11.48XhoYes
20:12.16GD12Okie dokie
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20:16.47XhoShe'd live some sort of tribal engraving on your penis if that's the case
20:16.52Xholeave*
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20:28.15Cyrannianhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a5/TaevVoseatiur.png/revision/latest?cb=20150115202744 http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0a/Grand_Mandator_Erissare.png/revision/latest?cb=20150115201247 - New appearances
20:29.25HachimanErissare looks pretty good
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20:29.56GD12Cyrannian : noice
20:30.05Cyranniandanke
20:30.17MonetTHe sceptre and the colalrline are nice touches
20:31.02MonetFor Erissare
20:41.08MonetRight, finally writing about those quasicrystals
20:46.04GD12bbl omnomnom : I've said this to others, but for those who haven't seen, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny#Anthem the Tyranny national anthem, which can be sung to the tune of O Fortuna (each line in the anthem has the corresponding amount of syllables to the lines in the actual hymm)
20:47.07odellCyrannian: Is it just me who think the later is a bit cute?
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20:49.41Xhotis b ups
20:49.58OluapPlayerNOOOOH
20:50.16Cyrannianodell: Well if reptilian women with a penchant for poking dead bodies with her sceptre tickle your fancy then sure.
20:56.06odellThere's better stuff to do than just sitting crouched over one and repeatly poke on it like you expect yourself nercomancer powers and turn it to one for your amry. Btw, I actaully thought that her head made her look cute.
20:56.56MonetIt might be the feathers
21:06.19odellMore impressed by the oblong triangle of a head. Cannot unsee that the color and the smoothing makes her head more adorable for me.
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21:07.12odellAnd, it's narrow.
21:08.09Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Erissare - here's her page
21:08.11Cyrannianbrb
21:10.45odellSeen that a while ago.
21:11.35XhoMonet: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/27/PlanetDzaranao2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150115211107 I made that GITO planet the Kicath have
21:11.37odellUgh, my programming attempt to create a space-theme game in C# is becoming more of Dwarf Fortress.
21:12.22odellJavaScript is like Dark Souls. Easier than Dwarf Fortress (!!!).
21:13.36MonetXho: Looks pretty
21:13.41odellAlright. Time to tamper further with Monobook so I can prepare for a release over the weekend.
21:25.33XhoJust punching up the Kicathian technology section
21:25.50XhoWould biotechnology explain for their ability to survive on non-vitriolic worlds
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21:35.10XhoHm I need someone with great science powers
21:35.19XhoThat's basically anyone who's not me
21:43.07XhoI basically need a method of how the Kicath produce such energy to rocket them into the Kardashev III region
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21:44.50XhoWhere's Wormy and his mad ideas
21:46.26Xho"A Type III civilization extracts fusion energy, information, and raw-materials from all possible star-clusters; it is capable of intergalactic travel via wormholes,[3] intergalactic communication, galactic engineering and galaxy-scale influence. The Ancients of the Stargate franchise are a type III civilization."
21:47.18XhoGalactic engineering hm
21:49.55odellTechnobliterator: They [Wikia] appearently removed or disabled skin change for their homepage.
21:49.55XhoI guess that would be along the ideas of harnessing black holes and whatnot
21:50.14odellSo it only uses the Wikia skin for me.
21:50.39Technobliteratorodell, you mean the community wiki?
21:51.34odellWell. This page. http://www.wikia.com/Wikia
21:52.12XhoI mean hypercomputers in terms of energy input/output must be well into Type III
21:52.17odellI know the reasons behind it, but it feels completely unnecessary for me.
21:56.05Technobliteratorshrugs
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22:13.37Knight_AlienHello
22:14.23MonetXho: A type III civilisation involves being able ot harness the energy potential of an entire galaxy
22:14.45XhoQuite a lot of energy
22:15.02MonetAnd one key step is harnessing the enrgy fro ma supermassive black hole
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22:16.19GD12Hi
22:17.39XhoSo I'd need some kind of supermassive black hole harvester
22:17.41XhoHi
22:18.16GD12For what?
22:18.25GD12Is this Kicathian Energy or osmething?
22:18.29XhoJa
22:18.41XhoDammit
22:19.03Wormy_awayGD12:  I finally debugged my script
22:19.14GD12Wormy_away : Its working now?
22:19.15GD12Awesome!
22:19.39GD12Xho : If you're going for black holes, best look to the AGC's Deep Core thing for inspiration
22:19.41Wormy_awayAye, I've not actually loaded in the molecule but before Maya was rejecting my script
22:19.52Wormy_awayThat's the next part
22:20.21GD12Ahh I see
22:20.22MonetXho: One of the limitations the Kicath might have in the 1st gig is all the supermassive black holes ar etaken
22:20.28GD12^
22:20.35GD12Not that many supermassive black holes floating around
22:20.44GD12Perhaps another alternative is star forge like things
22:21.21GD12Wormy_away : The life of a programmer!
22:21.32Wormy_awayhe Civilisation - If you had stayed with us, you could have access to stars and the Sag A*]
22:21.44XhoHm
22:22.04XhoRemnant - not our fault
22:22.13TekDroidXA - We'll take that too if you don't mind. >.>
22:22.34GD12Xho : Put agents on Hamster Wheels
22:22.38Wormy_awayMy biggest error was that I was using the ' apostrophe rather than ident `
22:22.39XhoI need to go anyway, need sleep
22:22.42GD12Energy problems solved
22:22.59TekDroidLol.
22:23.01Wormy_awayBye
22:23.12Wormy_awayThe Kicath are always welcome back too
22:23.47GD12hur, I'm not familiar with MEL but Wormy_away , those errors are annoying
22:25.34Wormy_awayaye
22:26.13MonetWormy_Away: Problem with the Kicath going back to the Civ is that would anger the DI
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22:27.13Wormy_awayI wonder how we will have computers that can understand the fuzzy and vacuous human languages.
22:28.33GD12Wormy_away : active area of research hur
22:28.40GD12Most approaches are probabalistic
22:28.43GD12Instead of deterministic iirc
22:28.55Wormy_awaySomethig to guess the programmer and translate it into definite tasks
22:29.18GD12Most important branch of math for that AI stuff is really Probability and Statistics, instead of discrete math :0
22:29.57Wormy_awayDavid Deutsch talks about how even human languages aren't direct, we have to guess what the other is thinking through conjecture and criticism.  Likely something like that is needed for machine intelligence?
22:30.24GD12Yeah
22:30.47GD12And I think that process of conjecture and criticism is inherently probabalistic and statistical
22:30.53Wormy_awayAlso, he describes a coevolution of memes and genes and how they could have influenced creativity
22:31.32GD12Something that boggles me is how we can get computers to understand high level ideas or be general problem solvers
22:31.52Wormy_awayPerhaps, though I'm sceptical of baynesian inference or inductivism.
22:32.06GD12Anything with a set of instructions or a methododology and a set of guidelines can be easily done by a computer, but higher level things? I don't really know
22:32.35GD12Bayesian Inference is basically the foundation of AI hur
22:32.52Wormy_awayMaybe it is what is keeping it slow
22:32.54GD12But I see your point
22:33.22Wormy_awayMind you, I'm quite a "Popperian"
22:33.36GD12I do want to take some coursees in Metamathematics, Logic among other things, but I don't have enough class slots left for those :(
22:33.45Wormy_awayI have Deutsch and Popper and such likes to thank for that
22:33.55GD12Aye
22:34.17GD12Another intersting part is computer-aided verification
22:34.35GD12Which is based on logic, automata, and complexity
22:34.42GD12and is iirc completely closed form and deterministic
22:34.59Wormy_awayGD:  Have you read any stuff by Douglas Hofstadter?
22:35.01GD12Its related to automated theorem proving, which is imo mindblowing
22:35.20GD12Been trying to bring myself to Godel Escher Bach but sadly no time since school eats up a lot
22:35.24GD12and im spending break time on fiction
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22:35.48Wormy_awayI see, fiction tends to take precedance over break
22:36.16GD12That happens in my case because during school its very hard to do fiction stuff because its hard to control myself when I get super into it
22:37.29Wormy_awayI started reading GEB in the summer, and I think the introduction to propositional calculuas and self-referential number theory helped mevthink about programming
22:37.39Wormy_awaySame here
22:38.00GD12Aye, I recall our conversations about the topics you encountered there and they were all quite intersting
22:40.21Wormy_awayI can see that complexity, computation and epistemology all meet  in this strange fugue of concepts.  And physics too.
22:40.48Wormy_awayIt's certainly a frontier
22:40.59GD12Wormy_away : I really hope to take a mathematical logic class before I graduate
22:41.18GD12So I can go into metamathematics and model theory, which link with my interst in epistemology
22:41.21Wormy_awayYes, I hope you can
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23:23.34drom_And it's permanently logged in my machine now.
23:24.47Tek0516I don't hide exactly hide it though. The join thingy even says my university name when I'm on their wi-fi. :P
23:25.56drom_Tek0516: Bascially anything that isn't connected to a dynamic IP.
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23:31.11GD12Hello
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23:32.48Tek0516Hello
23:35.16GD12hmm
23:35.17GD12what to do
23:37.28drom_GD12: Answer to your question you gave me earlier, no.
23:37.44GD12i c
23:38.15drom_GD12: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Sweden#Comparison_with_the_American_educational_system
23:38.29drom_Look down to the table beneath
23:39.20GD12so you are in gymnasieskolan ?
23:40.23drom_Yes. By high-school. I'm usually referring to that equivalence.
23:41.16GD12ahh i see
23:51.54HachimanAdmiralPanda: https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10930997_1156396931056425_6791328961333384766_n.jpg?oh=0a66c8f6fab7affcf81712825737c385&oe=55273988&__gda__=1432573922_f5622f2949c6f37dd0acf6650701ce3d
23:52.37AdmiralPandaAs I said last time that picture was posted, those areas are fire dangers regardless of what time it is because they're so hot and dry
23:57.01AdmiralPandaNot going to go overboard on it, but just don't make the fire jokes please
23:57.14HachimanAlright alright
23:59.23drom_People say that foxes are like a cross-breed of cats and dogs.

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