| 00:01.20 | Cyrannian | Very nice work, GD12 |
| 00:01.33 | GD12 | Aye, thanks |
| 00:01.42 | Xho | Tau is 29,000 and Nu before his Chaos-infusion was 31,000 |
| 00:02.48 | GD12 | Actually |
| 00:03.05 | GD12 | I think I'm now ready to post the first part of Mirus (its just a document) |
| 00:03.19 | Xho | Nu is now 100,000 on the basis that he can't die |
| 00:05.49 | GD12 | For those interested, a tl;dr of AD so far http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Mirus_Campaign#The_Demogorgon_Memorandum |
| 00:07.54 | Hachiman_ | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10898245_1564276710456065_8689302080168908568_n.jpg?oh=a234de420c5ad68838218de891331854&oe=553FF363 |
| 00:08.59 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars/Year_One#Fifth_Month - Updated dis |
| 00:10.50 | OluapPlayer | Junction - i dunt think u grasp the reality of ur situation |
| 00:11.09 | Zillafire101 | AD is going to be awesome. |
| 00:11.16 | Zillafire101 | I'm pumped. |
| 00:11.32 | GD12 | aye hur |
| 00:11.47 | GD12 | Gigaquadrant - get rekt m8 |
| 00:12.45 | Xho | Losing count of characters now |
| 00:13.04 | Zillafire101 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United Bygorian Ascendancy/Descendant Forces |
| 00:13.13 | Zillafire101 | Ah crap. Wrong button. |
| 00:13.21 | Zillafire101 | Ignroe that guys. I'm derpin. |
| 00:14.31 | Zillafire101 | I should just make a subpage of fiction I want people to check, update it, and bring it up every once and awhile. |
| 00:15.57 | GD12 | I suppose the next order of AD business is to get the commanders from all sides to discuss the invasion of Mirus |
| 00:16.28 | OluapPlayer | Silver Death - beep boop assume the position |
| 00:16.36 | GD12 | I suppose hopefully we could do that this weekend when its a weekend for everyone? |
| 00:16.41 | GD12 | aye |
| 00:16.49 | Cyrannian | You could use TitanPad, it's what I always use nowadays for collaborative fiction. |
| 00:17.01 | GD12 | Oh shit thats a genius idea |
| 00:17.36 | GD12 | Cyrannian : I may have encountered it before but i forgot its collaborative editing, which is genius |
| 00:17.39 | GD12 | Thanks! |
| 00:18.38 | GD12 | rite I made one over here just for reference https://titanpad.com/cqjCSl75S5 |
| 00:19.24 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Random_Things#OVER_9000 CRAZY NUMBERS FOR EVERYONE |
| 00:19.45 | Xho | I'm pretty sure I'm missing some characters there |
| 00:20.01 | odell | Alright. I've finished the skeleton and the skinning (riggig). But I need to redo the joints. http://i.imgur.com/tigSHeX.png |
| 00:20.54 | OluapPlayer | dese numbers meen nuffin |
| 00:21.04 | Xho | yeh dey do |
| 00:21.07 | DrodoEmpire | odell: Nice |
| 00:21.07 | Xho | 20 meens 20 |
| 00:21.39 | Xho | 11,000,000,000,000,000,000 meens 11,000,000,000,000,000,000 |
| 00:22.14 | GD12 | alll dat 0 |
| 00:22.27 | odell | Kithworto is surely drugged with growth hormones. |
| 00:22.51 | OluapPlayer | dey all meen dai 2 gorf dat wat |
| 00:22.57 | Xho | Kithworto - secret to all power -> essence + weight gain powder |
| 00:23.14 | OluapPlayer | But I should say Acedia being above all the other sins except Superbia amuses me |
| 00:23.43 | Xho | Acedia - meh *flick* Ira - *flying into oblivion* |
| 00:24.09 | OluapPlayer | Avaritia - shuldve taken more BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 00:24.35 | Xho | I could probably denote the Xhodocto in some forms |
| 00:27.04 | odell | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/O5S5WTp.jpg |
| 00:28.15 | Xho | hoh |
| 00:28.33 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Random_Things Updated with some joke thing |
| 00:29.55 | Xho | Santorakh's Insomnia number is just 111,111,111,111,111,111,111 squared |
| 00:30.44 | Monet | Santorakh - BY THE POWER OF MATHS! I SHALL RUIN YOUR DAY! |
| 00:30.53 | Xho | Santorakh - and cheese don't forget cheese |
| 00:31.10 | GD12 | Xho : 111,111,111,111,111,111,111 ^ 111,111,111,111,111,111,111 |
| 00:31.16 | Xho | egad |
| 00:31.21 | Tek0516 | O.O |
| 00:31.22 | GD12 | repeated 111,111,111,111,111,111,111 times |
| 00:31.34 | odell | There is more. Xho. http://i.imgur.com/OQreWmu.jpg |
| 00:31.48 | GD12 | 4chan lol |
| 00:32.38 | Xho | "HAPPY NEW YEAR" |
| 00:32.49 | Xho | So I plugged 111,111,111,111,111,111,111 ^ 111,111,111,111,111,111,111 into Wolfram |
| 00:33.05 | Xho | "2227306387840075013933 decimal digits ~~ 2.22731Ã10^21 decimal digits" |
| 00:33.08 | odell | Fun fact: Googolplex (10^1000) requires more space than our universe can hold. |
| 00:33.11 | Xho | You broke it |
| 00:33.20 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh should also be the lowest number with a -0 |
| 00:33.25 | Xho | rite |
| 00:33.32 | GD12 | odere |
| 00:34.09 | Tek0516 | I remember seeing that if you went a googolplex meters the universe would have been repeating itself. |
| 00:34.33 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Look, I went one better |
| 00:34.37 | Xho | Or should I say zero better |
| 00:34.48 | GD12 | Cyrannian Charles_Murray Monet Wormy_away OluapPlayer Zillafire101 pl0x add your faction's representatives here https://titanpad.com/cqjCSl75S5 |
| 00:34.55 | OluapPlayer | NOOOOOOOOOOOOH |
| 00:34.55 | Zillafire101 | Yes sir! |
| 00:35.08 | Xho | GD12: Xhodocto because Burger King |
| 00:35.14 | GD12 | hur |
| 00:37.45 | odell | Nu goes beserk. http://imgur.com/gallery/j1od1 |
| 00:40.17 | Zillafire101 | IS most bootyfoll story. |
| 00:41.07 | Xho | "wat" |
| 00:41.51 | Charles_Murray | This might be Sporewiki's first theoretical state, I'm not sure: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AConservative_France Anyone want to fact-check me on that? |
| 00:42.43 | DrodoEmpire | Charles: Looks good, just read it |
| 00:42.59 | DrodoEmpire | Sort of making me thinking of expanding on this a little - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire/Drodoian_Society_of_Concerned_Citizens |
| 00:43.11 | Hachiman_ | What do you mean "theoretical state"? |
| 00:43.38 | Monet | HAchiman_: Its territory might be unofficial |
| 00:43.43 | Monet | Like an internet state |
| 00:43.56 | DrodoEmpire | A state that may exist in theory; One that doesn't actually exist or is recognised abroad |
| 00:44.11 | Charles_Murray | Or that people wished existed. |
| 00:44.15 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:44.24 | DrodoEmpire | Theoretical states include internet states, some micronations, etc. |
| 00:44.47 | DrodoEmpire | They're a *little* different from Unrecognised States in that they don't exert any real control; At least not yet |
| 00:45.39 | DrodoEmpire | Unrecognised states would be things like the Islamic State, or, historically, things like the Second Roman Republic of 1849. |
| 00:45.55 | Charles_Murray | It's like Corsica IRL. There's a movement to make it its own independent state, and many could argue that it exists as a nation within the hearts and minds of the Corsican people, and many have theorized as to what would happen if it were to exist, but it doesn't exist. |
| 00:46.10 | Charles_Murray | An independent Scotland is a theoretical state. |
| 00:46.14 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:46.28 | Charles_Murray | I hope that answers your question? |
| 00:47.23 | Hachiman_ | Right so it is an idea |
| 00:47.33 | Zillafire101 | There was a second Roman republic? |
| 00:47.56 | Charles_Murray | Hachiman_ Yep! |
| 00:48.13 | Tek0516 | in the 1800s briefly, IIRC |
| 00:48.24 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:48.53 | Monet | Napoleon kicked them in the nuts and we got modern Italy soon after. |
| 00:48.53 | Zillafire101 | Dang. Was it actually Italian, or was it Germany trying to pass itself off as Roman? |
| 00:49.02 | Monet | Italian. |
| 00:49.03 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: No. :P |
| 00:49.04 | Zillafire101 | Oh, there we go. |
| 00:49.04 | Tek0516 | Think it was around the the time of Italian Unification or something. |
| 00:49.18 | Monet | I might be confusing my dates |
| 00:49.25 | DrodoEmpire | It lasted less than a year and only really extended in Rome; Rising when I believe the Pope left the city due to high-profile assassinations |
| 00:49.43 | DrodoEmpire | The liberals rose up, declared the republic, and this didn't end well |
| 00:49.51 | Zillafire101 | Ah. Learn something new everyday. |
| 00:50.07 | DrodoEmpire | France besieged the city and the nation collapsed like a tower of cards. :P |
| 00:50.17 | Tek0516 | lol |
| 00:50.19 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, interesting stuff |
| 00:50.40 | Zillafire101 | That's what normally happened with Napoleon in command. |
| 00:50.42 | Monet | I was half right with France |
| 00:50.54 | DrodoEmpire | Still, it had *very* revolutionary ideas and laws for its time; Like total freedom of religion, etc. |
| 00:51.36 | Monet | I rememebr the Second Republic becase it was where Giuseppi Garibaldi's got famous. |
| 00:51.50 | Hachiman_ | Garibaldi |
| 00:51.56 | Hachiman_ | Is that not a type of biscuit |
| 00:52.04 | Monet | It is |
| 00:52.11 | Monet | It's also an italian surname |
| 00:52.56 | Hachiman_ | Ngh restarting comp brb |
| 00:54.59 | Zillafire101 | Drodo, mind if I add a quote about the DSCC? |
| 00:55.42 | DrodoEmpire | Its alright. |
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| 00:57.49 | Hachiman | HELLO BOYS |
| 00:57.50 | Hachiman | I'M BACK |
| 00:58.37 | GD12 | hey |
| 00:59.03 | OluapPlayer | ew go away |
| 00:59.53 | Zillafire101 | Hi. |
| 01:00.33 | Zillafire101 | Drodo, done. I at first wnated something serious, but then I got guffy. |
| 01:01.51 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 01:02.22 | Zillafire101 | So, Phase unleashed his Queen-fanboyism. Just another day. |
| 01:02.49 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:04.21 | Zillafire101 | I believe I actually had him troll the Ugandalorians by adding Freddie Mercury to their religious database. |
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| 01:18.42 | GD12 | Hey |
| 01:19.12 | Monet | Hello |
| 01:22.53 | Wormy_STO | test |
| 01:24.58 | DrodoEmpire | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10885238_655644014544669_2573569689123424145_n.jpg?oh=aecbe300299eb830d7d2860177281854&oe=553EC30C&__gda__=1428640570_17b41369c41973e97477bf81e33cd20d |
| 01:27.14 | Wormy_STO | Scary siz |
| 01:27.16 | Wormy_STO | *shiz |
| 01:34.26 | Xho | GD12: http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140319150826/spore/images/5/5e/CenescaraeMegaconstruct.png |
| 01:34.40 | GD12 | nice! |
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| 01:35.30 | AdmiralPanda | hai all |
| 01:35.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 01:38.31 | GD12 | Hey there! |
| 01:56.08 | AdmiralPanda | does anyone else not have a search bar on the wiki page? |
| 01:57.01 | GD12 | its at the top |
| 01:57.04 | GD12 | search this wikia |
| 01:57.15 | Wormy_STO | Its now on top of the wiki page, on the wikia section. |
| 01:57.27 | Wormy_STO | Its no less useless |
| 01:57.43 | AdmiralPanda | It had a use just then so it's not useless |
| 01:58.19 | Wormy_STO | Well, it used to be far more precise |
| 01:59.05 | Wormy_STO | Even the advanced search doesn't fish out everything I want anymore |
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| 03:24.35 | GD12 | Hello |
| 03:27.28 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 03:28.42 | Tek0516 | >.< For some reason a market crash in Democracy 3 makes all the capitialists hate my government. XR |
| 03:28.45 | Tek0516 | XD |
| 03:29.14 | AdmiralPanda | lol |
| 03:29.17 | GD12 | hur |
| 03:29.27 | AdmiralPanda | does anyone here have experience using a game controller for pc's? |
| 03:29.34 | DrodoEmpire | Nope |
| 03:29.41 | Tek0516 | Even though more likely they caused it than I did. >.> |
| 03:30.01 | DrodoEmpire | Prefer using the keyboard as I am simply too euphoric for plebish game controllers. *tips fedora* |
| 03:32.32 | AdmiralPanda | aside from throwing a casual screw you in your direction, I've got a controller so I can actually play Dark Souls, the computer is registering it and everything but none of my games are |
| 03:33.04 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, right |
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| 03:34.47 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 03:34.55 | Vincent20100 | HEy Tek |
| 03:35.11 | Monet | Admiralpanda: Do you have the drivers installed from the controller's provider? |
| 03:35.27 | AdmiralPanda | yeah |
| 03:35.37 | Monet | Hmm. |
| 03:35.45 | Monet | Can't remember what I did. |
| 03:42.33 | GD12 | Monet : ur still up hur |
| 03:44.14 | Monet | Yeah |
| 03:44.29 | Hachiman | As am I |
| 03:45.14 | AdmiralPanda | brb |
| 03:47.24 | Tek0516 | I swear the global economy collapses on a year basis in Democracy 3. XD |
| 03:48.14 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:48.27 | GD12 | u British insomniacs |
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| 03:49.13 | Tek0516 | I'm Canadian. Hachi and Monet are the only Brits still here. :P |
| 03:49.19 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:49.22 | DrodoEmpire | Canadian too |
| 03:49.24 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 03:49.41 | GD12 | i know |
| 03:49.53 | GD12 | i was referring tohachi and monet with the british part |
| 03:50.02 | Tek0516 | Me, Drodo and Panda are all in the colonies though. :P |
| 03:50.14 | GD12 | aye hur |
| 03:50.16 | DrodoEmpire | We're those strange colonist folk from across the pond(s) |
| 03:50.36 | Hachiman | It should be expected of me to remain active on the IRC this late at night |
| 03:50.38 | AdmiralPanda | Although only colonies insofar as we get bonuses :P |
| 03:50.42 | Hachiman | Considering I am a night owl |
| 03:50.44 | GD12 | aye |
| 03:51.11 | Hachiman | Although I really should get some sleep for D&D tomorrow but then again that does not start until 3pm GMT |
| 03:51.19 | Hachiman | And it is not like I will be asleep until 3 |
| 03:51.23 | Hachiman | Like today |
| 03:51.30 | Tek0516 | When I don't have class the next day I'm usually still on when the early rising Brits are waking up. XD |
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| 04:37.25 | GD12 | Hello! |
| 05:04.40 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/uMyTRY0.jpg |
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| 06:46.56 | GD12 | Hi |
| 07:10.21 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 07:24.48 | Tek0516 | Kerbal Space Program can be hilarious when you fail. XD I tried to launch a shuttle, but the first stage wasn't strong enough so it spun over and blew up the launch pad. XD |
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| 07:34.49 | GD12_ | ngh |
| 07:34.54 | GD12_ | udum insomnia is dum |
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| 08:06.55 | Tek0516 | My shuttle keeps failing epically. XF |
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| 09:56.31 | Hachiman | rite dere we go |
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| 10:08.29 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 10:09.00 | OluapWorker | omg hai |
| 10:13.21 | AdmiralPanda_ | hai fagits |
| 10:13.33 | AdmiralPanda_ | OluapWorker: Dat powerstance magestic greatsword |
| 10:13.41 | OluapWorker | yee |
| 10:24.07 | AdmiralPanda_ | btw you gon have to send me a steam message to get my attention |
| 10:24.22 | OluapWorker | gosh darn u |
| 10:24.28 | OluapWorker | I always do that |
| 10:39.42 | AdmiralPanda_ | cus I torture myself with a crappy mining ship built by a casul who only praises once daily |
| 10:45.51 | AdmiralPanda_ | funnily enough, the magestic greatsword did make me think of playing a left-handed fighter |
| 10:46.09 | AdmiralPanda_ | purely for the WTF value in roleplay |
| 10:47.02 | AdmiralPanda_ | I did some research, and mechanically speaking there's no difference- even the rules for dual-wielding refer to the "main hand" and "off hand" so there are no penalties for being left-handed, but role-play wise it fucks with so many peoples' combat styles |
| 10:47.34 | Hachiman | hur |
| 10:47.41 | OluapWorker | It'd be kind of rude if there were penalties for being left-handed |
| 10:47.51 | Hachiman | Yeah I can see where you are coming from |
| 10:47.59 | Hachiman | There are a lot more right-handed people than there are left-handed |
| 10:48.08 | OluapWorker | http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1420866176996.jpg taking a sippy when you got 0 Adaptability |
| 10:48.22 | Hachiman | hur |
| 10:48.27 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachiman: More importantly, combat techniques were designed according to the enemy having the same hand orientation as yourself |
| 10:49.10 | OluapWorker | http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1420866363562.webm BRAVE UNDEAD |
| 10:50.13 | AdmiralPanda_ | wtf did I just watch |
| 10:50.32 | OluapWorker | http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1420867282490.webm the ride never ends |
| 10:50.50 | Hachiman | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 10:51.24 | OluapWorker | http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1420870366039.webm MY BARREL IS MY WEAPON |
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| 11:14.13 | Hachiman | Wonder what playing a dwarven Paladin of Torag would be like |
| 11:14.19 | Hachiman | I imagine it'd be an interesting experience |
| 11:14.31 | OluapWorker | torog |
| 11:14.47 | Hachiman | Given that the Paladin's abilities are basically Fighter + Cleric from what I can understand |
| 11:14.49 | OluapWorker | I've read his lore and confirmed he is in fact worshiped by humans |
| 11:14.58 | OluapWorker | He just has more dwarf followers |
| 11:31.22 | AdmiralPanda_ | Oluap: Actually in Golarion he has more human followers purely by the fact that humans breed like humans |
| 11:31.56 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachiman: Playing a dwarven paladin of Torag is basically a dwarf trying to be as much of a dwarf as he possibly can be |
| 11:32.10 | Hachiman | hur |
| 11:32.39 | Hachiman | Given the Paladin affinity for Lawful Good I am assuming he has more restraint when it comes to drinking and feasting? |
| 11:33.12 | OluapWorker | Make him worship both Torag and Cayden Cailean |
| 11:33.25 | OluapWorker | I am become alcohol, destroyer of taverns |
| 11:33.51 | OluapWorker | I don't see how drinking and feasting can be considered evil |
| 11:34.03 | Hachiman | They are not orderly when it comes to Dwarves |
| 11:34.19 | OluapWorker | Just restrain yourself |
| 11:34.42 | OluapWorker | Drink but not enough to turn retarded after you do it |
| 11:35.41 | OluapWorker | needs clerics of the Great Old Ones |
| 11:36.08 | Hachiman | Hastur hur |
| 11:36.59 | OluapWorker | Actually each GOO has their own favored weapon and cleric domains |
| 11:37.08 | OluapWorker | "Cthulhu's clerics have access to the domains of Chaos, Evil, Madness, and Void, and to the subdomains of Dark Tapestry, Insanity, Nightmare, and Stars. His favored weapon is the daggerâoften one with a curving blade." |
| 11:38.20 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachiman: Generally there's nothing on the whole drinking and partying thing |
| 11:39.38 | Hachiman | I imagine drinking and eating yourself silly does not entirely eminate Torag hur |
| 11:39.55 | OluapWorker | Torag is pretty srs bsns as far as I can tell |
| 11:40.16 | Hachiman | *emanate |
| 11:41.01 | AdmiralPanda_ | As Oluap pointed out, there's nothing evil about it, and Torag has no views against it, so yeah as long as you're not gorging yourself to the point that it causes harm to the community you're good |
| 11:41.09 | OluapWorker | "He is an often distant deity, lending magical power to his clerics, but leaving his followers to make their own way through life, knowing that this will make them strong and determined." |
| 11:41.16 | OluapWorker | Seems like he doesn't particularly mind |
| 11:41.27 | Hachiman | Ah right |
| 11:41.37 | AdmiralPanda_ | generally speaking, as long as the deity doesn't directly oppose it you're good |
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| 11:42.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:43.11 | OluapWorker | http://www.pathfindercommunity.net/gods-of-golarion/Torag if you're planning to do it, then read this page |
| 11:43.14 | OluapWorker | Hello |
| 11:43.28 | AdmiralPanda_ | oh god, this mining ship flies like a fish on land |
| 11:43.46 | AdmiralPanda_ | which is to say, pathetically, and if you try too hard it's likely to die horribly |
| 11:44.10 | AdmiralPanda_ | whips himself for letting his friend design a ship |
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| 11:44.29 | OluapWorker | Don't be too hard on the poor thing hur |
| 11:44.32 | OluapWorker | impu |
| 11:44.40 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:44.47 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: http://pastie.org/9823760 Fixed my sheet |
| 11:44.47 | AdmiralPanda_ | OluapWorker: It's actually attrocious |
| 11:45.03 | AdmiralPanda_ | it has like 1/4 the thrust in all directions it needs and not nearly enough gyroscopes |
| 11:45.37 | AdmiralPanda_ | that and like 20% of it is free space which is 19% too much |
| 11:46.32 | OluapWorker | http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Template:Deities_navbox Pathfinder has a shitload of gods I gotta say |
| 11:47.50 | AdmiralPanda_ | well there were only 20 in the original setting, then silly expansion writers decided each expansion demanded another full pantheon |
| 11:48.07 | OluapWorker | Still a shitload of gods |
| 11:48.34 | OluapWorker | I'm slightly bothered this navbox lists the Horsemen as minor |
| 11:48.58 | Hachiman | Several of these are mirrors of deities from the real world |
| 11:49.08 | AdmiralPanda_ | oh yeah |
| 11:49.34 | AdmiralPanda_ | Oluap: The Horsemen are minor powers cus no planar domains of their own |
| 11:49.47 | OluapWorker | But they own Abaddon |
| 11:50.01 | OluapWorker | At least the Oinodaemon should be major |
| 11:50.26 | AdmiralPanda_ | Nobody owns Abaddon, the Horsemen are just the ones nobody fucks with |
| 11:50.49 | OluapWorker | blegh |
| 11:51.17 | Hachiman | There will always be Horsemen but they will not always be the same daemons unlike true gods |
| 11:51.28 | AdmiralPanda_ | they each rule their own portions of it, but it's not their planar domain; so they're basically archdevils with no Asmodeus equivalent |
| 11:51.51 | Hachiman | From what their page happens to state their identities change and are not set in stone |
| 11:51.56 | OluapWorker | wouldn't the Oinodaemon be their Asmodeus equivalent? |
| 11:52.31 | OluapWorker | Since he was the original daemon and the most powerful |
| 11:53.24 | AdmiralPanda_ | As I said, Abaddon is nobody's planar domain, the Oinodaemon -if it exists- isn't the owner of Abaddon either |
| 11:54.15 | OluapWorker | His existence seems pretty blatant to me |
| 11:54.38 | OluapWorker | As far as I read about it, the other Horsemne beat him up and trapped him in a tower where they leech from his power |
| 11:54.48 | AdmiralPanda_ | Only in one very specific world expansion :P |
| 11:54.58 | AdmiralPanda_ | and if you disregard that, which it's quite easy to do, suddenly he doesn't exist |
| 11:55.21 | OluapWorker | sats silly |
| 11:55.24 | OluapWorker | dats even |
| 11:56.15 | OluapWorker | Speaking of which I downloaded a pdf of one book which had a crapton of creatures in it |
| 11:56.17 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda_: Are there any spears used specifically for throwing? |
| 11:56.23 | OluapWorker | Except the drawings were awful |
| 11:56.23 | Imperios | In Pathfinder I mean |
| 11:56.25 | OluapWorker | AWFUL |
| 11:56.41 | AdmiralPanda_ | it's a matter of personal preference, but most of the DMs I know find the idea of a quintessential horseman to be silly |
| 11:56.49 | AdmiralPanda_ | Imperios: that would be the javelin |
| 11:57.11 | Imperios | Rite |
| 11:57.11 | OluapWorker | I think he's called a Horseman simply because he's a fifth top-daemon dude |
| 11:57.18 | OluapWorker | Ideally he'd predate all the others |
| 11:57.52 | Hachiman | So the barbarian nation-state of Numeria has blatant robots in it alongside AI in Pathfinder |
| 11:57.56 | OluapWorker | idunno i like him so I accept it hur |
| 11:58.11 | Hachiman | http://pathfinderwiki.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/5/55/Numerian_mecha_scorpion.jpg/800px-Numerian_mecha_scorpion.jpg I mean look at this |
| 11:58.13 | OluapWorker | I remember reading something about a crashed spaceship in Golarion |
| 11:58.29 | OluapWorker | And one place with no magic so people developed guns instead |
| 11:58.55 | OluapWorker | Hachiman: We Reaper now |
| 12:00.00 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachiman: Again, expansion bullshit |
| 12:00.27 | Hachiman | From what I am reading, the spaceship was called the Divinity and came to Golarion in what was known as the Rain of Stars, described as a "metal mountain" and having crashed in Numeria, also bringing with it three artificially-intelligent beings that can somehow grant their followers divine magic |
| 12:01.03 | Hachiman | These AI being known as the Iron Gods by the Numerians |
| 12:03.17 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachi, the Book of Erotic Fantasy got approval from Paizo. There is a lot of shit that got the greenlight for no reason at all |
| 12:03.18 | Imperios | The hell are you even talking about hur |
| 12:03.43 | Hachiman | The Book of Erotic Fantasy |
| 12:03.44 | Hachiman | Fuck |
| 12:04.16 | OluapWorker | Imperios: Expansions books for Pathfinder |
| 12:04.29 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda_: I think I heard something about it |
| 12:04.40 | Imperios | It had copious amounts of lesbians in it didn't it |
| 12:04.44 | OluapWorker | Considering I'd probably never make a game set specifically at Golarion, I'm fine with expansions if they fit the game I have in mind |
| 12:04.50 | OluapWorker | Of course you'd know about the lesbians |
| 12:05.33 | Imperios | No that's one of the facts I remember |
| 12:05.59 | OluapWorker | If I had a reason to add a cult to the Great Old Ones to a game I'm running I'd probably do it hur |
| 12:06.02 | Imperios | The others is some pedophilic implications and lots of very weird sex in genera |
| 12:06.04 | Imperios | l |
| 12:06.40 | Imperios | I still say we ought to play World of Darkness at one point |
| 12:06.56 | Hachiman | World of Darkness? |
| 12:07.34 | Hachiman | Shadowrun has always interested me but nobody else here desires to play it hur |
| 12:07.52 | Imperios | Urban Fantasy, think Underworld |
| 12:08.02 | Imperios | Or Twilight |
| 12:08.17 | Imperios | I would like to try it |
| 12:08.27 | Hachiman | Twilight |
| 12:08.29 | Hachiman | Fuck that |
| 12:08.43 | OluapWorker | I'm always amused by Cthulhu's stats because just by standing at 400 feet from him makes you do a DC 40 Will save, and if you fail you die on the spot |
| 12:08.48 | OluapWorker | 300* |
| 12:08.50 | Imperios | Twilight as in there are vampires and werewolves u |
| 12:09.03 | OluapWorker | Very bad example |
| 12:09.11 | Hachiman | I would rather compare Urban Fantasy to stuff like Underworld and Blade |
| 12:09.37 | AdmiralPanda_ | Hachiman: The BoEF doesn't actually have anything bad in the writing itself, what it does do however is trivialise sex, which is an automatic sin in my book |
| 12:10.01 | OluapWorker | I'm not interested in anything not involving high fantasy swords n dragons n shi |
| 12:10.05 | OluapWorker | cus I'm that much of a bore |
| 12:10.17 | Imperios | This may sound weird but I do not like overt sexuality in fiction |
| 12:10.25 | Imperios | Especially when it's blatant |
| 12:11.12 | Hachiman | Neither do I, I prefer it being displayed as intimate and in other circumstances symbolic |
| 12:11.38 | AdmiralPanda_ | You say this, and yet you jump in a goblin's bed the moment you meet him :P |
| 12:11.44 | OluapWorker | This threats my plan of introducing a Succubus DMPC |
| 12:12.08 | Hachiman | ech |
| 12:13.25 | Hachiman | Granted I also think that sex and sexuality can be used for humour under the correct circumstances, otherwise it is simply poor taste |
| 12:13.37 | Imperios | Unless the story is meant to be nothing but this of course |
| 12:15.20 | AdmiralPanda_ | Just found my friend's review of the BoEF: "In a literary sence, the only thing of value in this book is a brief summary of each race's views on sexuality- this is quite good quality and very useful. Mechanically, there is a table for venereal diseases. Otherwise, the only thing this book does well is trivialise intimacy and reduce romance to a series of rolls and number scores." |
| 12:16.29 | Hachiman | Roll play effectively |
| 12:16.33 | AdmiralPanda_ | mhm |
| 12:16.37 | Imperios | That's some FATAL-level shit |
| 12:16.42 | AdmiralPanda_ | DON'T |
| 12:16.43 | Hachiman | Although that first part interests me somewhat |
| 12:16.44 | AdmiralPanda_ | MENTION |
| 12:16.44 | AdmiralPanda_ | THAT |
| 12:16.45 | AdmiralPanda_ | GAME |
| 12:16.51 | Hachiman | NO |
| 12:16.54 | Hachiman | NOT FATAL |
| 12:17.00 | AdmiralPanda_ | That is heresy and must be burned |
| 12:17.29 | AdmiralPanda_ | fetches the Castigator-class Flamestorm Cannon and aims it at Imperios |
| 12:17.34 | Hachiman | The BoEF is a holy text by comparison to fucking FATAL |
| 12:17.40 | Imperios | hur |
| 12:17.53 | AdmiralPanda_ | RENOUNCE THY HERESY AND PRAISE THE EMPEROR! |
| 12:18.02 | Imperios | AVE IMPERATOR |
| 12:18.02 | OluapWorker | Yor emprah is a grot |
| 12:18.16 | Imperios | Admittedly there are worse Tabletop RPGs |
| 12:18.27 | Imperios | Okay, tabletop RPG |
| 12:18.28 | AdmiralPanda_ | there really aren't |
| 12:18.38 | Imperios | There is ONE game that is on equal levels with it |
| 12:18.41 | Imperios | Racial Holy War |
| 12:18.43 | AdmiralPanda_ | now change the subject before I burn you |
| 12:18.56 | Imperios | http://creativityalliance.com/eBook-KennethMolyneaux-RacialHolyWarTheGame.pdf This |
| 12:19.02 | OluapWorker | Let's discuss qt talking rats |
| 12:19.12 | OluapWorker | And how you want to murder them all |
| 12:19.35 | Imperios | I love rats ;-; |
| 12:19.53 | OluapWorker | squeak |
| 12:20.03 | Imperios | "Latrinos are lazy and criminal vermin who waste valuable air on Earth, that should |
| 12:20.03 | Imperios | be reserved for Natures Finest--the White Race. Due to their history of illegal |
| 12:20.03 | Imperios | immigration, they are adept at crossing borders and sneaking around. Therefore |
| 12:20.03 | Imperios | their special attack is known as Stealth. This skill, if successful, allows the latrino |
| 12:20.03 | Imperios | to attack first as part of the special attack. " |
| 12:20.06 | Imperios | This |
| 12:20.09 | Imperios | THIS |
| 12:20.14 | Imperios | THIS |
| 12:20.22 | Hachiman | Latrinos |
| 12:20.25 | Hachiman | How creative |
| 12:20.25 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: More tumblr losers http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27258471 |
| 12:20.37 | OluapWorker | That looks like satire to me |
| 12:21.06 | Imperios | Considering that this RPG was distributed by an actual nationalist group, it is unlikely |
| 12:21.33 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Implying Tumblr is anything but losers |
| 12:21.54 | Wormy_ | true |
| 12:22.17 | Wormy_ | It sounds like a dumping ground for all that is wrog with our generation |
| 12:24.11 | Hachiman | There have always been idiots, it is simply that the Internet allows them more open access |
| 12:25.41 | AdmiralPanda_ | that and people think the second amendment means they can say whatever they like without consequence |
| 12:26.03 | AdmiralPanda_ | when all it really means is the government can't stop you saying it- everyone else can call you a fuckwit and/or hit you for it |
| 12:31.39 | Wormy_ | Like the guy who tweeted "I ran over a cyclist into work ol" or something |
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| 12:43.53 | odell | It's 0 degrees outside. |
| 12:44.06 | odell | So it's snowing, then it's raining, then it's snowing again. |
| 12:45.23 | odell | Geez, the nature needs more direct resolving. |
| 12:52.30 | odell | Wormy_ Technobliterator: http://s16.postimg.org/djleka8hx/screenshot_150.png c |
| 12:54.08 | Wormy_ | Its interesting |
| 12:56.19 | odell | Also, custom scrollbars. |
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| 15:10.32 | Wormy_ | Wow this kid might have met Banksy http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02gkxtf |
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| 15:59.49 | HachiPlaying | spi |
| 16:00.31 | Xho | mi |
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| 16:19.06 | Monet | Hello |
| 16:21.30 | HachiPlaying | Hello |
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| 16:34.56 | GD12 | hi |
| 16:37.12 | Monet | Hi |
| 16:46.13 | Imperios | Hi |
| 16:46.16 | GD12 | Hey |
| 16:51.04 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 16:57.27 | Xho | Watching DBZ Abridged now |
| 16:57.57 | Xho | "We here at Team FourStar do not condone child violence. We do, however, find it hilarious." |
| 17:00.14 | odell | moi |
| 17:00.40 | odell | Moi means hi and me |
| 17:00.55 | odell | Finnish and French respectively |
| 17:10.25 | AdmiralPanda_ | Xho: The "Krillin got owned" count |
| 17:10.30 | Xho | heh |
| 17:15.42 | Xho | "PRINCESS SNAAAAAAAAAKE" |
| 17:24.47 | Xho | Nappa is pretty much the same in the abridged version as he is in the actual series |
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| 17:31.13 | WoodPulp | Hi |
| 17:32.34 | GD12 | Hello |
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| 17:42.07 | GD12 | Hello |
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| 17:46.19 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
| 17:46.59 | GD12 | Hey |
| 18:02.50 | GD12 | rite |
| 18:03.03 | GD12 | I'm going to write some AD prologue while waiting for other peeps to git on hur |
| 18:03.37 | AdmiralPanda_ | Xho: That's because Nappa's pretty hilarious as it is |
| 18:03.47 | AdmiralPanda_ | That said, wait till you get to the Ginyu Force |
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| 18:19.19 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 18:25.31 | Xho | AdmiralPanda_: They're pretty awful as it is normally |
| 18:25.55 | AdmiralPanda_ | oh they're hilarious in the abridged |
| 18:29.15 | Xho | I'm about half way through the Saiyan Saga |
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| 18:30.49 | Wormy_away | hi |
| 18:30.52 | GD12 | hi |
| 18:31.33 | Xho | "So how was your training, Krillin?" "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA" |
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| 18:47.25 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 18:47.33 | GD12 | hi |
| 18:49.53 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 19:04.13 | AdmiralPanda_ | Xho: DODGE! |
| 19:04.23 | Xho | hur |
| 19:04.30 | Xho | "WHY DIDN'T YOU DODGE bluh" |
| 19:04.57 | HachiPlaying | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10487586_1074859392537119_346738011273065087_n.jpg?oh=91fe02d063aa9139e451a7f945970216&oe=556A9965&__gda__=1429920477_afa830c9265a82f8f233d5c508a020c8 "I got the modelling job, mum!" |
| 19:05.54 | Xho | Wow |
| 19:06.25 | GD12 | hur |
| 19:08.53 | Monet | Modelling for a labour bed. A job's a job :) |
| 19:10.21 | Xho | "HEY AREN'T YOU THE GIRL WITH HER LEGS IN THE" "NO NO NO STOP IT" |
| 19:17.25 | Xho | "Crushed and broken beneath a naked brainless chid. Yep I think I'm done here." |
| 19:20.04 | HachiPlaying | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10924722_1564735753743494_6204173017032830775_n.jpg?oh=51c12cb67b293180172ebaacc8bd860f&oe=5569454F&__gda__=1429380720_82c72ed607c507f5e608160014085754 |
| 19:20.57 | Xho | Kithworto - see this is why I trained hachi in tantum |
| 19:21.16 | Xho | Thinking about it much of Hachi's training from Kithworto was "DOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE" |
| 19:21.40 | HachiPlaying | hur |
| 19:21.41 | HachiPlaying | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10898294_1153180014711450_9015136488106080215_n.jpg?oh=adbbb22320a340b19084692ce8aade0e&oe=552FD773&__gda__=1428917529_effd828d40a3b8c246059dd8b348a156 |
| 19:23.17 | GD12 | odere |
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| 19:28.34 | AdmiralPanda | Back |
| 19:28.38 | GD12 | hi |
| 19:31.18 | GD12 | hello |
| 19:32.17 | Xho | ew |
| 19:35.24 | Imperios | Welcome back OP |
| 19:38.17 | GD12 | conducts an occult ritual to summon peeps needed for da planning arpee |
| 19:38.46 | Xho | blsafbg |
| 19:39.50 | OluapPlayer | It's not a good day for me to rp |
| 19:40.00 | AdmiralPanda | conducts a profane ritual to summon kittens |
| 19:40.13 | AdmiralPanda | also known as going to the pet store |
| 19:40.27 | AdmiralPanda | also, an internet miracle has happened |
| 19:40.40 | Wormy_away | odell, GD12: There is the (perhaps good) argument HTML is not a programming language, i.e. it doesn't put down conditional processes or logical functions, its markup. However, aren't browsers themselves very high level languages (virtual computers essentialy), with the markup being an instruction. In this case it weakly would be programming. |
| 19:41.17 | GD12 | OluapPlayer : got it |
| 19:41.26 | OluapPlayer | Do it without me |
| 19:41.27 | AdmiralPanda | katana cultist going on a little grorious nippon steer rant, me and some other guy shut him down, said other guy then engages me in a conversation about the finer points of spear vs longsword techniques |
| 19:42.27 | Wormy_away | Nevermind, it *os* a language, but a declarative one |
| 19:42.30 | Wormy_away | *is |
| 19:43.03 | GD12 | OluapPlayer : no problem, if there is rp today its likely a few hours away from now, not immediately |
| 19:47.48 | Wormy_away | Right, web browsers render HTML and interpret Javascript |
| 19:52.02 | Wormy_away | So its a language and not a language, how confusing |
| 19:52.35 | Wormy_away | While its coded, it cannot instruct anything |
| 19:53.16 | Wormy_away | This explains it https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/prog.html |
| 19:54.32 | TekDroid | -.- I set my shuttle in KSP to autoland. |
| 19:54.50 | TekDroid | It did a nose dive straight into the ground 40km away |
| 19:56.36 | Monet | Lol |
| 19:57.02 | TekDroid | Yeah, that function is buggy it seems. XD |
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| 19:57.32 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 19:58.15 | TekDroid | I'll have to give up my single stage shuttle dreams for now. XD |
| 20:00.58 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda_: Katana cultist? Elaborate |
| 20:01.25 | AdmiralPanda_ | you know, the kind of people who despite any proof to the contrary believe the katana to be the greatest weapon of all time |
| 20:05.01 | odell | Wormy_away: HTML is a document syntax language. |
| 20:05.06 | odell | Like XML |
| 20:07.20 | Wormy_away | I was confused by the difference between an instructional language and a procedural one. I thought web browsers were interpreters (but not for HTML). Though its a declarative language I've read it can't instruct anything. Which I'm still a little bit confused about, how does it work without containing instructions? |
| 20:08.38 | Wormy_away | Sorry, descriptive, not procedural (yes still confused) |
| 20:09.46 | Wormy_away | I'm gessing the document contains all possible presentations, and the HTML simply tells the document how to display this and that |
| 20:20.34 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda_: I get that, I mean what arguments was he trying to use |
| 20:20.50 | AdmiralPanda_ | oh, just the usual |
| 20:21.01 | OluapPlayer | I'm surprised you're still awake |
| 20:21.03 | AdmiralPanda_ | folded steel, differential tempering (although he completely got that part wrong) |
| 20:21.25 | AdmiralPanda_ | OluapPlayer: It's now 6:20am. I'm not going to sleep for at least another 12 hours or so |
| 20:22.58 | Imperios | Huh |
| 20:24.27 | TekDroid | O.o Did you pull an all-nighter? |
| 20:25.06 | AdmiralPanda_ | mhm |
| 20:25.12 | AdmiralPanda_ | D&D |
| 20:25.25 | TekDroid | Ah. |
| 20:25.51 | Xho | I have to ask why sometimes |
| 20:26.01 | HachiPlaying | Because D&D |
| 20:26.08 | AdmiralPanda_ | The best answer I have to give is Desperate |
| 20:26.20 | OluapPlayer | Once the encounter you're currently in ends, you'll be level 6 |
| 20:26.29 | AdmiralPanda_ | gud |
| 20:26.45 | AdmiralPanda_ | go to NC+ |
| 20:27.12 | OluapPlayer | But that's for next week i guess |
| 20:27.15 | Wormy_away | Its unhealthy. I used to do allnighters, especially for work and sometimes wikiediting or gaming. And I end up with sleep deprivation and anxiety |
| 20:27.28 | AdmiralPanda_ | Wormy: You don't say |
| 20:27.37 | OluapPlayer | In a positive note, I have no work next saturday, so I can freely DM at both weekend days |
| 20:27.56 | AdmiralPanda_ | OluapPlayer: I ain't playing both nights |
| 20:28.11 | OluapPlayer | That's not what I meant |
| 20:28.21 | OluapPlayer | I mean I'm free all weekend |
| 20:28.55 | Wormy_away | Get some sleep Panda. You don't want a blood clot |
| 20:29.07 | Wormy_away | travelling from those sedentary limbs |
| 20:30.27 | Wormy_away | Though seriously, that has happened (rare though) |
| 20:31.24 | AdmiralPanda_ | Wormy: 1) I was no more sedentary over the past 24 hours than I was over a regular work day, and 2) I'm fully aware of how shit staying up all night makes me feel, this is hardly the first time I've done it over the many years of being an Australian gamer, and I fully intend to sleep properly the rest of the week thank you very much |
| 20:32.36 | Wormy_away | Sorry, didn't want to come off as a nag, I was expressing my own developing fear of sitting too long on the computer |
| 20:33.03 | Wormy_away | Why, I've spent much of today on the computer |
| 20:33.14 | Wormy_away | Except for a run and walk, at least |
| 20:34.57 | Wormy_away | Its half 8 and I've not even made dinner yet, thats how disorganised I am |
| 20:35.33 | HachiPlaying | I wonder if Yakshrapala and Isiris are the same thing or if Yak should remain as simply a part of Isiris |
| 20:35.33 | Wormy_away | and thats hardly the latest |
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| 20:36.05 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 20:36.06 | Wormy_away | hi |
| 20:37.20 | GD12 | Hi Ghelae |
| 20:37.21 | OluapPlayer | I always saw them as being one of the same |
| 20:37.46 | HachiPlaying | Right |
| 20:38.27 | OluapPlayer | That's how I see it, if that's not the case then I'm wrong |
| 20:38.54 | HachiPlaying | Well I am just wondering if I should officialize that Isiris and Yakshrapala are the same thing rather than the latter being a segment of the former |
| 20:41.33 | Imperios | I imagine Yak is a living manifestation of Isiris |
| 20:41.34 | HachiPlaying | I might rewrite Yakshrapala's page to be the official page for Isiris in that case although keep "Yakshrapala" as a name for something significant in regards to Isiris |
| 20:42.04 | Imperios | For me Isiris is the dominant entity/personality with Yak as one of its aspects/avatars |
| 20:42.27 | Xho | Same |
| 20:42.48 | Xho | Well I think 'Isiris' is the natural governance of Koldenwelt and Yakshrapala is an avatar of sorts |
| 20:42.59 | OluapPlayer | To me, Yak is not an aspect but THE aspect |
| 20:43.05 | Xho | Or some kind of psychopomp/symbol |
| 20:43.44 | Xho | I think the Colossi are all aspects of Isiris |
| 20:43.55 | Xho | In my definition of Isiris anyway |
| 20:43.59 | HachiPlaying | The Colossi are all aspects of Isiris yes |
| 20:44.04 | OluapPlayer | I always saw Isiris as being responsible of who is a Colossus of not |
| 20:44.08 | Xho | c |
| 20:44.18 | HachiPlaying | I imagine them being born of different aspects of Isiris' psyche |
| 20:44.22 | Imperios | I think of them as of natural reactions of the world/Isiris to its inhabitants |
| 20:44.43 | Xho | I think Isiris is basically the Koldenweltian Brahman |
| 20:45.02 | OluapPlayer | Isiris picks a creature billions of years before they're even born and goes "you'll be a colossus when you're born" |
| 20:45.10 | HachiPlaying | Yeah that makes sense |
| 20:45.13 | Xho | And that its the absolute deity of its own universe like the Simulacra are the deities of their own universes |
| 20:45.31 | Imperios | Makes sense |
| 20:45.59 | HachiPlaying | If that is the case then each Colossus is a combination of an individual and part of Isiris' self |
| 20:46.08 | Xho | I dunno |
| 20:46.15 | Xho | Could leave it entirely open |
| 20:46.29 | OluapPlayer | I don't imagine Isiris having direct control over them |
| 20:46.41 | OluapPlayer | Otherwise stuff like Siivhahzin would be paradoxical |
| 20:46.58 | HachiPlaying | It would not have direct control of them no |
| 20:47.01 | Xho | Darkness isn't exactly Isiris-borne either |
| 20:47.09 | HachiPlaying | Isiris is intended to be truly neutral in most regards |
| 20:47.10 | OluapPlayer | Darkness is a Source school |
| 20:47.13 | OluapPlayer | So yeah it is |
| 20:47.51 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Nobody says Isiris is a nice guy |
| 20:47.51 | Xho | What I mean is that AkhemazdrÃs created the school though not of whatever Isiris' accord would be, I don't see Isiris wishing to threaten itself |
| 20:47.52 | Imperios | Girl |
| 20:47.55 | Imperios | Yes girl |
| 20:48.16 | OluapPlayer | That's a bold claim you're making |
| 20:48.21 | HachiPlaying | Isiris is both creative and destructive |
| 20:48.33 | HachiPlaying | Just like nature |
| 20:49.00 | HachiPlaying | Having light and darkness, life and death, equates to balance and I imagine that would be what Isiris desires to ultimately attain |
| 20:49.41 | Xho | Another thought of mine is that Isirs is the accumulated spiritual thought between all living things and therefore has no definitive nature |
| 20:49.41 | HachiPlaying | If something threatens that, create a Colossus or impart power unto an individual chosen in order to restore it so there is no imbalance |
| 20:50.31 | Xho | 'Isiris' as a concept is probably as well known as the One God so defining it is probably not a wise idea |
| 20:50.45 | Ghelae | It sounds like the sort of thing that would be debated by philosophers and theologians in-universe. |
| 20:50.57 | OluapPlayer | Isiris' existence is fact |
| 20:51.09 | Xho | Yeah I got that |
| 20:51.14 | OluapPlayer | Otherwise stuff like the Wolf and the Primordal Death wouldn't exist |
| 20:51.21 | Xho | I mean defining Isiris with words is not fully possible |
| 20:51.52 | Xho | What sets Isiris apart from the other deities of the universes is that Isiris doesn't take a definitive form nor conscience whereas every other deity does |
| 20:52.49 | Xho | I'll just stick with what I think of Isiris because it's doing well enough for me |
| 20:53.15 | Xho | I've mentioned through Kinmo that 'Isiris creates responses to threats' by basically setting things into motion without direct governance i.e. warriors necessary for the Dawn Wardens to form or the Colossi |
| 20:53.35 | OluapPlayer | Isiris wasn't involved in the Dawn Wardens |
| 20:53.44 | Xho | You're not getting it I think |
| 20:54.02 | HachiPlaying | What I will do is create a page for Isiris and include all of these ideas and mention there is debate as per its nature and how it functions and such |
| 20:54.06 | Xho | Basically it's an invisible pre-meditated motion that allows things to happen without an entity in play |
| 20:54.40 | Xho | So Isiris wasn't involved in the Dawn Wardens but theoretically through its own will and decision could have formed the warriors that took part in it in order to fight against what Isiris deems as a threat to Koldenwelt |
| 20:54.56 | Xho | Or allowed them to converge at a certain point in time |
| 20:55.21 | Monet | That's some heavy "balance of the universe" stuff right there. |
| 20:55.28 | Xho | Yeah |
| 20:55.55 | Ghelae | Subtly influencing destiny rather than being obvious about it. |
| 20:56.40 | Xho | Isiris will' may have allowed Soldalatel/Aethereus/AkhemazdrÃs to make use of Koldenwelt in order to set balances and imbalances into motion if the Orichalcum Elves would have allowed Isiris into their school of thought |
| 20:57.59 | Xho | But the Orichalcum Elf's ideas of cosmogenesis may differ from the actual events or perhaps not |
| 20:58.13 | Xho | Elves'* |
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| 21:00.09 | Xho | My personal opinion is that I don't like to think of Isiris as a deity with 'thought' or even as a deity |
| 21:00.44 | Xho | More like a natural order or will that simply exists for the sake of existing |
| 21:03.31 | Xho | I won't mention any of my things since most of them exist outside of Isiris' method of motion |
| 21:03.42 | Xho | #aliens4lyf |
| 21:03.53 | Imperios | I actually wonder how different cultures on Koldenwelt acknowledge the authority of Isiris |
| 21:04.00 | OluapPlayer | You exist outside of everyone else's fiction |
| 21:05.21 | HachiPlaying | Well I imagine Koldenwelt Christians and druids worship Isiris all the same |
| 21:05.40 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - we crusade now |
| 21:05.53 | Xho | Fantasy Mahanayans would probably assume that Isiris is the reason for their ability to communicate with the desert |
| 21:05.53 | HachiPlaying | They are not actually called Christians however obviously hur |
| 21:07.08 | Xho | There was an idea that was floating in my head about a spiritual world that exists in the underlying part of Koldenwelt |
| 21:07.14 | Imperios | Norrigan - Would you like to have talk about Isiris Almighty *hands leaflet* |
| 21:07.28 | HachiPlaying | I like to imagine that Isiris worship is divided like how Christianity, Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism, Islam, and other mono-deity faiths happen to be alongside aspects of Hinduism and Buddhism |
| 21:07.36 | HachiPlaying | Simulacra worship would be the analogue of paganism |
| 21:07.45 | Monet | Xho: It's an interesting idea to explore |
| 21:07.54 | Xho | Basically a total manifestation of all the magic within Koldenwelt and that magic is its method of manipulation/observation |
| 21:07.58 | Monet | A physical reality and a spiritual/emotional relaity |
| 21:08.31 | Xho | Would also explain souls and whatnot that are able to inhabit in a coexisting living body |
| 21:09.00 | Xho | Basically everything rooted to this whole idea that could be Isiris in motion |
| 21:09.15 | HachiPlaying | Druidism on Koldenwelt that is devoted to nature itself would be considered Isiris worship, druidism that worships entities of nature can be considered either Isiris worship or Simulacra worship, depends |
| 21:09.45 | OluapPlayer | I guess worshiping a Colossus is essentially worshiping Isiris in an indirect manner |
| 21:09.56 | OluapPlayer | Man-Serpents - *hands leaflet* |
| 21:10.08 | HachiPlaying | Aye |
| 21:10.13 | Imperios | I am going to retcon Klaxxa beliefs at some point |
| 21:10.24 | Xho | "Can I just talk to you about our lord and saviour Isiris" |
| 21:11.09 | Imperios | Baiscally they are going to believe in five primordial aspects of the world/the soul that are from time to time manifested as "Celestial Paragons" |
| 21:11.41 | Xho | Pelagrios - celestial para-rums |
| 21:12.59 | Ghelae | Although all of the work on the fantasyverse may have changed this history, what's currently written on the Deiwos page is that the earliest Deiwos races used to worship the Source in some pure form (perhaps Isiris-worship?), and over time these beliefs evolved, so the idea that they evolved similarly to the Abrahamic religions could well fit into that. |
| 21:13.24 | HachiPlaying | Aye that makes a lot of sense |
| 21:13.29 | Xho | Suppose that could work |
| 21:13.29 | OluapPlayer | Deiwos page is like stone age outdated hur |
| 21:14.06 | Xho | I guess much of the beliefs of the Orichalcum Elves were Isiris-based before their civilisation grew |
| 21:14.31 | Xho | Ka-is' culture would have been Isiris-worshipping I guess |
| 21:14.41 | Xho | Well no definitely |
| 21:14.50 | Xho | 170,000 BNA humans probably weren't that smart |
| 21:15.12 | Xho | As in smart enough to acknowledge more than one god that isn't Isiris since they pretty much came from wherever |
| 21:16.47 | Imperios | Speaking of humans where do my guys fit into all of this |
| 21:17.07 | Xho | Well that's up to you not to us |
| 21:17.12 | OluapPlayer | Your humans are obviously separated |
| 21:17.40 | Xho | Ka-is' culture was exceptionally ancient but there's definitely more than one culture of humans |
| 21:17.43 | ImpyDroid2 | I am not even sure what type of entity Pheonas is |
| 21:17.52 | Xho | big giant golden god guy |
| 21:18.33 | Xho | In all fairness there's probably an endless amount of gods in the Fantasyverse |
| 21:18.46 | Xho | Not every one needs to be acknowledged though |
| 21:18.57 | Xho | 12 Simulacra and 4 other outer deities is enough |
| 21:19.07 | Xho | And all the Colossi |
| 21:19.16 | Xho | I don't even know how many Colossi there even are |
| 21:19.22 | AdmiralPanda_ | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trCcTLo7lNo wait till you see number 1 |
| 21:19.56 | ImpyDroid2 | So Pheonas will be the same type of creature as Aur right |
| 21:20.05 | Xho | 16 Colossi |
| 21:20.15 | Xho | Within the same kind of deity perhaps |
| 21:20.21 | OluapPlayer | I don't see why Pheonas can't be just a god of his own right |
| 21:21.02 | Xho | Would be better |
| 21:21.04 | ImpyDroid2 | True |
| 21:22.57 | Xho | Aúr/Kaúvra/Tlahlávra are in their own sort of pantheon of sorts though considering only one of them is semi-active it's not really a pantheon |
| 21:23.02 | Xho | More like a slumber party |
| 21:24.56 | Xho | But yeah I don't see why Pheonas can exist within his own niche |
| 21:24.59 | Xho | cannot even |
| 21:27.55 | Xho | But in all reality most of this stuff shouldn't even be definitively explained |
| 21:28.11 | Xho | Most of my stuff is based on 15,000-year deceased theorem |
| 21:28.19 | Ghelae | If they (non-Simulacrum gods including Pheonas) all spring from Isiris, there's certainly no need for them to all fit into neat little categories like the Colossi, and even if they don't, that may well just make for less reason for them to all fit into neat little categories. |
| 21:29.46 | Xho | Well according to the magic page most of the Simulacra use the Source as well |
| 21:29.53 | Xho | So they'd somewhat spring from Isiris as well |
| 21:30.28 | ImpyDroid2 | I had an idea that Pheonas was actually a half-breed deity or something |
| 21:30.39 | Xho | Pelagrios - half-bread nice |
| 21:30.43 | ImpyDroid2 | Born of a true deity and a Simulacrum |
| 21:30.52 | ImpyDroid2 | Think Loki |
| 21:31.03 | Xho | >spu |
| 21:31.18 | Xho | That depends on what you mean by true deity though |
| 21:31.39 | ImpyDroid2 | Either a Colossus or whatever Aur id |
| 21:31.41 | ImpyDroid2 | *is |
| 21:31.56 | Xho | I can't really explain what those three gods are |
| 21:32.16 | Xho | They're as much as part of the Source as they are not |
| 21:32.31 | Xho | Really not worth explaining without making some people turn heads |
| 21:32.57 | Xho | Most of that is generally speculation and outlandish theory |
| 21:34.05 | Ghelae | They're called "Celestial Deities" in your fantasyverse navbox; I think that's as good a name as any. |
| 21:34.05 | ImpyDroid2 | Speaking of which if the fire drake guy taught the ancient races fire and stuff I wonder what gift Pheonas could bring back then |
| 21:34.27 | ImpyDroid2 | Probably smithing and craftsmanship and stuff |
| 21:34.34 | Xho | Cryptomancy is always a good shout |
| 21:35.24 | ImpyDroid2 | I imagine him as a trickster-like character, probably a bit like Loki |
| 21:35.32 | OluapPlayer | Think of it as a caveman discover he can use fire to roast meat |
| 21:35.36 | Xho | Cryptomancy then hur |
| 21:35.37 | ImpyDroid2 | Or Prometheus |
| 21:35.45 | OluapPlayer | That's Venertimanoth's gift |
| 21:35.47 | Xho | I'm hungry now |
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| 21:35.59 | TheBindingOfLol | Hello |
| 21:36.04 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 21:36.24 | ImpyDroid2 | That's how Pheonas managed to convert Alhassal: by creating a nigh-unstoppable army of human fangirls |
| 21:36.30 | TheBindingOfLol | Tekdroid |
| 21:36.42 | Xho | Caligaduro - weaboo apocalypse not cool |
| 21:36.49 | TheBindingOfLol | This spore creature looks weirdly human http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=373037255 |
| 21:37.02 | GD12 | Hello |
| 21:37.27 | ImpyDroid2 | Xho: Loki is not weeaboo u |
| 21:37.29 | Xho | I can see Pheonas being a patron deity of fabrication and metallurgy |
| 21:37.43 | TheBindingOfLol | Xho |
| 21:37.50 | Xho | wot |
| 21:37.52 | TheBindingOfLol | Does the creature in that link look humanoid? |
| 21:38.01 | Xho | Yeah why |
| 21:38.12 | TheBindingOfLol | its the most humanoid creature ive ever made |
| 21:38.43 | Xho | Right |
| 21:39.10 | Xho | ImpyDroid2: And perhaps a god of unification as well |
| 21:39.17 | Xho | Or something along the lines of that |
| 21:39.24 | ImpyDroid2 | Yeah I thinj |
| 21:39.32 | ImpyDroid2 | Well his main domain is freedom |
| 21:39.35 | Xho | c |
| 21:40.31 | TheBindingOfLol | look at this epics derpy head http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=274123570 |
| 21:40.40 | Xho | As a general rule we should leave pantheons out in the open |
| 21:41.29 | TheBindingOfLol | (has no idea what your talking about) |
| 21:41.47 | Xho | TheBindingOfLol: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe |
| 21:42.29 | Ghelae | Although I don't think there's currently a complete list of Koldenwelt deities anywhere. Is it currently just Isiris, Simulacra, Colossi, Aúr/Kaúvra/Tlahlávra, Pheonas? |
| 21:42.38 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 21:42.53 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 21:43.22 | TheBindingOfLol | What color should i paint http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=373037255? |
| 21:43.59 | Xho | I was having this "what-if scenario" on having Intermediate Period Colossi that existed in the time gaps between the Old and New Colossi, though I considered it would probably take millennia for whatever to muster the power to spawn a new one |
| 21:44.34 | Xho | That and it would probably clog up the Colossi page summin' bad |
| 21:45.33 | OluapPlayer | That'd be redundant] |
| 21:45.35 | Xho | That and it would be severely jagged in terms of structure since some of the Old Colossi died closer to 300,000 BNA and some closer to 15,000 BNA |
| 21:45.44 | Xho | In purpose it would yeah |
| 21:45.49 | Xho | Since all of them would be dead |
| 21:45.55 | Ghelae | We also haven't even got a full list of Old and New Colossi yet, if there's supposed to be one of each for each Source school. |
| 21:46.52 | Xho | Well we're totally missing the Thunder school |
| 21:48.12 | OluapPlayer | Which i'm doing as we speak |
| 21:48.19 | Xho | do fasta |
| 21:48.38 | Xho | Currently we only have 3/16 schools completed |
| 21:48.50 | Xho | If I were a completionist that would bother me |
| 21:48.57 | Xho | Sorry 4 |
| 21:50.05 | Xho | Still struggling to think of elementals for Time/Storm/Sun though |
| 21:51.48 | GD12 | 16 schools of magic |
| 21:51.52 | GD12 | wot |
| 21:52.59 | Ghelae | GD12: And that's just the Source - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source#Schools |
| 21:53.28 | Xho | I'm gonna change the words from 'creator' to 'cultivator' |
| 21:53.30 | Xho | Sounds more logical |
| 21:54.47 | GD12 | hur |
| 21:55.05 | Xho | That would roll into the thesis that the 'cultivators' helped Koldenwelt to grow rather than create the magics |
| 21:55.17 | HachiPlaying | I am gonna be doing the Wind Colossi at some point |
| 21:55.53 | Xho | I'd imagine in the idea of Koldenwelt's great chaotic formlessness all magic would have been able to have been derived so I'd guess those three just cultivated those derivations |
| 21:56.13 | Xho | That sounds a lot better |
| 21:56.44 | Xho | Needs wind elves as well |
| 21:56.56 | Xho | There seems to be an elf for each school as well |
| 21:57.15 | OluapPlayer | Not really |
| 21:57.35 | Xho | I dunno seems sorta like it |
| 21:57.44 | Xho | Well |
| 21:57.51 | Xho | There are direct correlations to some |
| 21:58.19 | OluapPlayer | Elves don't need to follow the same pattern as the Colossi or Drakes |
| 21:58.26 | Xho | I'm just stating |
| 21:59.53 | Hachiman | Should Isiris' page come under Fiction, a subpage of SporeWiki:Fantasy Universe, or a subpage of Planet:Koldenwelt |
| 21:59.57 | Ghelae | I doubt there's any risk of us dividing up the Elves into "True Elves" with element associations and, I don't know, "Greater Deiwes" and "Lesser Deiwes" that don't. |
| 22:00.05 | Xho | I can't be the only one who's picked up on some correlations there |
| 22:00.06 | OluapPlayer | Fiction |
| 22:00.35 | OluapPlayer | Next you're gonna say we need True Theriocephali, True Golems and True Fey |
| 22:00.42 | OluapPlayer | We don't need the same thing for every creature type |
| 22:00.47 | Xho | Have I said that |
| 22:01.08 | Xho | No |
| 22:01.13 | OluapPlayer | Let's keep True Drakes unique |
| 22:01.25 | Xho | I said there was some direct correlations between magic schools and elf races |
| 22:01.35 | Xho | I didn't say there was any ideals of a hierarchy there |
| 22:01.47 | OluapPlayer | I'm saying this to everyone, not just you |
| 22:03.23 | Xho | Fey hierarchies seem feasible in theory though since they're mostly in that sort |
| 22:03.43 | Xho | Not really ever going to happen since 1) there's no need 2) no one really ever takes notice of fey |
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| 22:04.41 | Xho | I don't think I ever actually came up with a dark fey race in the end |
| 22:04.52 | Xho | In fact I think the dark fey idea I had became the Shadowed Men |
| 22:06.57 | Ghelae | Currently, the Fae seem to have no real connection to the Source schools; or at least that's how it looks to me. |
| 22:07.16 | Xho | Well I wasn't really in the thoughts of 'source schools' |
| 22:07.23 | Xho | Just magical hierarchies |
| 22:07.49 | Xho | Though that does question whether fey can be linked to source schools or not |
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| 22:07.58 | Hachiman | What would one call those connected to Isiris, like Colossi and certain chosen individuals and intermediate entities that are not Simulacra |
| 22:08.09 | Xho | Koldenweltian |
| 22:08.31 | Hachiman | fug |
| 22:08.38 | Xho | hoh get shrekt nub |
| 22:08.42 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - the sexiet |
| 22:08.59 | ImpyDroid2 | Titans? Aspects? |
| 22:09.12 | Hachiman | Well I mean like how Jesus was connected to God despite humanity as a whole being linked to God |
| 22:09.12 | odell | Out of all the anglos. New Zealanders and Canadians are not butthurts. |
| 22:09.20 | Xho | Oh |
| 22:09.41 | Hachiman | I was tempted to use "Faces" |
| 22:09.49 | Hachiman | But people can probably think of something better |
| 22:10.05 | Xho | Faces could work I guess |
| 22:10.23 | ImpyDroid2 | Facets |
| 22:10.33 | Hachiman | Facets |
| 22:10.35 | Hachiman | Now that is better |
| 22:12.01 | Xho | Do what I do; start with one name and add lots of others later on |
| 22:14.37 | Hachiman | One thought I was having was werewolves being demons that were native to Koldenwelt and created by Isiris with the purpose of being fated to appear in times of great imbalance - for either light or dark - in order to attempt eradicating whatever it is that is upsetting the natural order beyond what the mortals of Koldenwelt can manage |
| 22:15.28 | Hachiman | Although I dunno if that would make Isiris seem too antagonistic |
| 22:15.38 | Xho | Isiris probably wouldn't discriminate |
| 22:15.44 | Xho | As long as the threats are natural |
| 22:15.49 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 22:16.09 | Hachiman | If I go through with that idea, werewolves were probably prevalent during Caligaduro's invasion of the world |
| 22:16.24 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:16.43 | Hachiman | Although I dunno other people's thoughts on it so I will hold off for now |
| 22:16.53 | Hachiman | Until I get a confirmation that people support the idea |
| 22:17.08 | OluapPlayer | I'm okay with it since I always connected them to the Inatosan Wolf anyway |
| 22:17.53 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Relanvadur |
| 22:18.01 | Hachiman | I was thinking of making the Inatosan Wolf either their leader or one of their champions |
| 22:18.17 | Xho | "Relanvadur was the Old Colossus of Thunder" |
| 22:18.19 | Xho | THUNDER TURKEY |
| 22:20.29 | Hachiman | Nice, I like it |
| 22:21.26 | Hachiman | I like how tragic your Colossi tend to be |
| 22:21.38 | Hachiman | It gives them a fair bit of character |
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| 22:25.39 | GD12 | Heya |
| 22:25.44 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
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| 22:28.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
| 22:28.17 | GD12 | hi |
| 22:28.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 22:33.41 | Hachiman | What could I call the Werewolves of Koldenwelt, considering that 'werewolf' is probably a mortal-given term? Or should I just keep their name as Werewolves? |
| 22:34.29 | OluapPlayer | Lycanthropes? |
| 22:34.31 | Ghelae | You could go Tolkein-like and call them Wargs. |
| 22:34.49 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 22:34.54 | Hachiman | Both are good terms actually |
| 22:35.40 | Xho | I'd give them an original name |
| 22:36.16 | Xho | Or at the very least something that's not Latin or Greek |
| 22:36.36 | Xho | I think the Old Norse term for 'wolf' is 'vitnir' |
| 22:37.27 | Xho | Actually no my bad |
| 22:37.30 | Xho | 'Ulfr' |
| 22:37.35 | Xho | Makes sense I guess |
| 22:37.45 | OluapPlayer | "oh look it's a unf" |
| 22:38.16 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:38.19 | Xho | Hm |
| 22:38.27 | Xho | Well you could expand on the term |
| 22:38.53 | Xho | Ulfranvarsar or something I dunno |
| 22:39.40 | Xho | Ulfranvursar, Ulfrunvorsir...I could go on like that |
| 22:40.39 | Hachiman | There could perhaps be two types of Koldenwelt werewolves; the "true" werewolves that are the demons/daemons of Isiris maybe led under the World Wolf and the "false" werewolves that happen to be the mortals they passed their lycanthropy onto and their subsequent descendants |
| 22:41.09 | Xho | I suppose through lineage the power would get weaker |
| 22:41.41 | Xho | That would mean that True Werewolves would be pretty nasty |
| 22:42.00 | Hachiman | Well yeah they were made with the intention of keeping the world from falling too far into light or darkness |
| 22:42.18 | Xho | Caligaduro - haven't got enough dog treats for this |
| 22:43.02 | Hachiman | I imagine that True Werewolves would be able to use stuff like weapons and armour while False Werewolves would be the more animalistic and bestial type featured in folktales |
| 22:43.25 | OluapPlayer | That fits with Pureblood and Halfblood Vampires, which pleases me |
| 22:43.32 | OluapPlayer | since vampires and werewolves are enemies |
| 22:43.45 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 22:43.46 | Xho | Would they appear more wolf like the more powerful they are |
| 22:44.06 | Hachiman | How do you mean? |
| 22:44.34 | Xho | Would the more powerful ancient werewolves aesthetically look more like wolves than their lesser counterparts |
| 22:44.35 | OluapPlayer | Also fits because they're both Koldenweltian demons |
| 22:45.10 | Hachiman | Probably yeah |
| 22:45.48 | Xho | Another thing is that would they actually be werewolves, and if so what would they transform into |
| 22:45.58 | Ghelae | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
| 22:46.03 | Hachiman | Cya Ghelae |
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| 22:46.04 | AdmiralPanda_ | well if they're a werewolf they'd turn into a wolf :P |
| 22:46.20 | Xho | Lesser werewolves one can account for but Lupus Mundi Werewolves might be a little hard to explain |
| 22:46.28 | OluapPlayer | Wolves who turn into humanoid wolves? |
| 22:46.41 | Hachiman | Well False Werewolves, except maybe Werepyres, would have the capacity to transform between human and wolflike forms |
| 22:46.58 | OluapPlayer | I imagine Werepyres are locked on their beast states |
| 22:46.59 | Hachiman | As for True Werewolves, I am unsure if they would transform or not |
| 22:47.51 | Hachiman | I imagine ancient True Werewolves would perhaps take on a form to intentionally suppress their powers or something, not entirely sure |
| 22:48.12 | OluapPlayer | Start being sure |
| 22:48.15 | odell | Charles_Murray Monet TekDroid GD12: http://i.imgur.com/Q4KZcrg.png |
| 22:48.56 | Xho | I suppose that would make sense if they're a theological equivalent of phoenixes or other denizens of realms |
| 22:52.04 | Hachiman | I am unsure because I don't want to apply the whole "super form" thing where it is not necessary |
| 22:52.06 | Xho | Though if they're demons then it's not really an equivalent |
| 22:52.22 | Hachiman | I like the idea but then I believe I can think of a better equivalent perhaps |
| 22:52.28 | Xho | Hm |
| 22:52.45 | Xho | A better equivalent would be an elemental of a sentient universe |
| 22:53.18 | Xho | The element being Isiris' will |
| 22:54.36 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 22:55.15 | Xho | I can't say they're angels because they're not there to cultivate life |
| 22:55.33 | Hachiman | Yeah they are demons/daemons definitely since their purpose is to destroy |
| 22:55.49 | Xho | An 'arbiter of discord' |
| 22:55.53 | Xho | There we go |
| 22:56.00 | Xho | Arbiters of Discord sounds about right |
| 22:56.22 | Hachiman | So would that be a title for them then? |
| 22:56.33 | Xho | Title, purpose, whatever floats |
| 22:56.44 | Xho | Sounds better as a purpose to me |
| 22:56.51 | Hachiman | Makes sense |
| 22:57.19 | Xho | If they're there to destroy to maintain balance then they're gonna have a lot of authority as far as discord is concerned |
| 22:58.04 | Xho | A title, well |
| 22:58.13 | Xho | They're definitely gonna have a lot of names |
| 22:58.46 | Xho | Most important entities in the Fantasyverse have a lot of names |
| 22:58.53 | Hachiman | As for how often the True Werewolves have appeared I am unsure of that as well although I can imagine they were around during Caligaduro's invasion of Koldenwelt, maybe the War for the Eye as well |
| 22:59.16 | Hachiman | Which also needs a rewrite might I add |
| 22:59.23 | Xho | That might coincide with the idea that Kalarah was fended off by either the World Wolf or lots of Werewolves |
| 23:00.31 | Xho | I'd imagine they're an incorruptible kind as far as Caligaduro knows |
| 23:00.42 | Hachiman | True Werewolves at least |
| 23:00.49 | Hachiman | False Werewolves however |
| 23:01.08 | Xho | Caliagaduro's extent probably didn't allow him to manipulate true werewolves on their home turf |
| 23:02.36 | odell | Xho: http://s16.postimg.org/7mhj3grd1/screenshot_153.png |
| 23:02.37 | Xho | I should really make something that's purely Koldenweltian |
| 23:02.56 | Xho | odell: har |
| 23:03.00 | Hachiman | As for where the True Werewolves reside when they are not crusading Koldenwelt, perhaps they live in some equivalent of a subplane |
| 23:03.25 | Xho | That spiritual world theory I had might come into play there |
| 23:05.07 | Xho | Or some kind of magical nexus that the Eye projects or something |
| 23:05.38 | Xho | Koldenweltian Werewolves are not to be messed with from what I gather |
| 23:06.05 | OluapPlayer | Werepyres are just under Purebloods in vampire hierarchy after all |
| 23:06.24 | Hachiman | Well if the purpose given to them by the Fantasyverse's equivalent of the Abrahamic God was to destroy others to make sure nobody fucks the world up |
| 23:06.28 | Hachiman | I guess that speaks for itself hur |
| 23:06.41 | Xho | Kinmo - saves me from doing it I guess |
| 23:06.53 | Xho | I'd assume that Kinmo would have close rapport with the werewolves |
| 23:07.02 | OluapPlayer | If Norrigan ever discovered werewolves were linked to Isiris he'd probably try to become one on purpose |
| 23:07.03 | Hachiman | Possibly yeah |
| 23:07.07 | OluapPlayer | But fail because he's a half-ghost |
| 23:07.10 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:07.38 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_En4RovedOA This is pretty much how I'd envision Norrigan's attempts |
| 23:08.52 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Perhaps the origin of the of the Werepyres of the Nightshade Clan come from a traitorous False Werepyre who was seduced by Zran Kar and all of his followers and descendants became corrupted alongside himself? |
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| 23:09.15 | OluapPlayer | That might be it |
| 23:09.29 | OluapPlayer | But some of them should be regular werewolves who contracted vampirism |
| 23:09.36 | Hachiman | Aye of course |
| 23:09.45 | Zillafire101 | Hello all. |
| 23:10.12 | OluapPlayer | Nightshade Clan's got a lot of things desptie being a vampire faction. Werewolves, gargoyles, manticores, goblins |
| 23:10.24 | Hachiman | I can imagine that lycanthropy is hereditary in this universe |
| 23:11.06 | GD12 | Hey Zillafire101 |
| 23:11.13 | Xho | Pelagrios - im akutly werwulf culd u imagin mah alcohol tolerance |
| 23:11.31 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - hav sum chocolate |
| 23:11.51 | Hachiman | Maybe not every generation would get it however, it could be inactive in say the father when it was active in the grandfather and son |
| 23:11.51 | Xho | Pelagrios - dis betta not be innuendo |
| 23:12.01 | Hachiman | Like how the Devil Gene kinda works |
| 23:12.14 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - joke is dat chocolate is toxic to dogs u worthless shi |
| 23:12.17 | Xho | Oh god imagine the Devil Gene in the Fantasyverse |
| 23:12.24 | OluapPlayer | Devil Gene |
| 23:12.25 | OluapPlayer | u wot |
| 23:12.30 | Xho | Tekken thing |
| 23:12.34 | Hachiman | Although two False Werewolves breeding would probably end up in another active False Werewolf |
| 23:12.51 | Xho | Basically those who possess the Devil Gene can undergo a transformation that turns themselves into a demonic creature |
| 23:13.08 | Xho | http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124092/2964905-devil_kazuya__true_form__beta_extraction_by_jin_05-d5hamk4.png example |
| 23:13.49 | OluapPlayer | Sounds like the Aether State |
| 23:14.01 | Xho | Hachiman: Hachi contracts lycanthropy -> http://athenacinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/gromit4_copy0.jpg |
| 23:14.11 | OluapPlayer | hoh |
| 23:14.15 | Hachiman | A False Werewolf breeding with a mortal would have either inactive or active False Werewolf offspring |
| 23:14.23 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:14.35 | Hachiman | As for True Werewolves breeding with mortals and False Werewolves though |
| 23:14.41 | Xho | I'd imagine the Devil Gene is pretty much like the Aether State |
| 23:14.53 | Xho | Though the Devil Gene usually turns someone psychotic and evil |
| 23:14.56 | Hachiman | Except Aether States are not hereditary in nature |
| 23:15.02 | Xho | That too |
| 23:15.15 | OluapPlayer | All depends of your inner self |
| 23:15.22 | OluapPlayer | Clothovera's Aether State is psychotic and evil |
| 23:15.37 | Xho | The fact that Jinpachi doesn't have the Devil Gene makes me shudder on the idea if he did |
| 23:15.53 | Hachiman | What the fuck is up with Jinpachi if he does not have the gene |
| 23:16.00 | Xho | Pelagrios - in all honesty hachi all women are psychotic and evil |
| 23:16.05 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:16.16 | Xho | It's a ghost apparently that possesses his corpse |
| 23:17.01 | Hachiman | Well I think I have a rather solid foundation for Koldenweltian werewolves at last |
| 23:17.06 | Hachiman | Now I just need to decide a name |
| 23:17.16 | OluapPlayer | Now proceed to never work on them |
| 23:17.19 | Hachiman | They would probably have a true name and then various other names they would be referred to by |
| 23:17.45 | Xho | I'd imagine that the ghost that resurrected Jinpachi is probably the same one that possesses Unknown |
| 23:18.14 | Hachiman | Coincidentally Unknown is a wolf person hur |
| 23:18.28 | Xho | hur |
| 23:18.51 | Xho | Though it's implied that Unknown does possess the Devil Gene since she has the tattoo |
| 23:21.36 | Hachiman | So the True Werewolves are led by the World Wolf - a Facet of Isiris - and the Inatosan Wolf is either one of the guys that serve as their commander(s) or champion(s) |
| 23:21.56 | OluapPlayer | I thought the World Wolf was the Inatosan Wolf |
| 23:22.23 | Xho | I think Hachi's intending to split the identities |
| 23:22.51 | Hachiman | World Wolf applied as a title for Yak/Isiris |
| 23:23.09 | Hachiman | Inatosan Wolf was just one of the incarnations, he was never the World Wolf |
| 23:23.30 | OluapPlayer | Huh |
| 23:23.44 | OluapPlayer | In my head, that was always another name for the Inatosan |
| 23:23.52 | Xho | Same actually |
| 23:23.59 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 23:25.58 | Hachiman | Also I just discovered |
| 23:26.05 | Hachiman | "Inato" means "innate" apparently |
| 23:26.11 | Hachiman | In Portugese |
| 23:26.14 | OluapPlayer | It does |
| 23:28.10 | Hachiman | Well now I need to reason why the Inatosan Wolf hangs out in material Koldenwelt rather than with the other True Werewolves in whatever subplane of Koldenwelt they reside in |
| 23:28.22 | OluapPlayer | Guard the Eye |
| 23:28.27 | Hachiman | Oh yeah hur |
| 23:29.09 | Hachiman | Sworn to protect the Eye, which he could use as a means to observe all the stuff that goes on throughout Koldenwelt like a crystal ball |
| 23:29.51 | Xho | Inatosan - hmm boring boring boring oh god hachi stop that |
| 23:30.06 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:30.33 | Hachiman | Just had a thought; Kalarah attempts to use the Eye -> Accidentally opens up gateway to True Werewolf territory and lets them out |
| 23:31.02 | OluapPlayer | Kalarah - this does not expand dong |
| 23:31.34 | Hachiman | Now I just need to figure why he is called the "Inatosan" Wolf |
| 23:31.45 | Xho | Kalarah - puppies NO WAIT THESE AREN'T PUPPIES |
| 23:31.54 | Hachiman | hoh |
| 23:32.29 | OluapPlayer | Inatosan could be a True Werewolf word for something |
| 23:32.49 | Hachiman | Could perhaps be |
| 23:33.29 | Hachiman | Could be a mortal mistranslation of a True Werewolf word rather, since I imagine True Werewolves would refer to the Wolf by his actual name |
| 23:34.03 | Xho | Caligaduro - his real name is fido |
| 23:34.05 | Hachiman | Little does mortalkind know that "Inatosan" is a mistranslation of a True Werewolf word for "dickhead" |
| 23:34.08 | OluapPlayer | *bob |
| 23:34.42 | Hachiman | Well I say mistranslation |
| 23:34.46 | Hachiman | Linguistical deriative rather |
| 23:34.48 | Xho | The first thing that came to mind was "Vigilant" |
| 23:36.08 | Hachiman | I might just make True Werewolf names and such Nordic inspired |
| 23:36.18 | Hachiman | But then I dunno much about Nordic names other than Bjorn |
| 23:36.33 | Xho | Ulfr dam u |
| 23:36.48 | Hachiman | I meant individual names, not the species name hur |
| 23:36.50 | OluapPlayer | beh there are no hammer-like weapons in Dark Injection |
| 23:36.54 | OluapPlayer | What a bother |
| 23:36.59 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:36.59 | Xho | Oh right |
| 23:37.14 | OluapPlayer | Inatosan's real name is actually Fenrir |
| 23:37.27 | Xho | I was gonna say Hróðvitnir which is another name for Fenrir |
| 23:37.44 | Hachiman | hruveetner |
| 23:37.51 | Xho | Hrodvitnir |
| 23:38.05 | OluapPlayer | hhhhttttnnnrrrr |
| 23:38.19 | Xho | Ndrhthryr - u havin a stroke or sumthin |
| 23:38.52 | OluapPlayer | The sound Pelagrios does when there's no rum |
| 23:38.55 | Hachiman | I like it, I'll use Hróðvitnir as his real name since I was both looking for good Nordic-inspired names and because I think accented letters look awesome hur |
| 23:39.20 | Xho | noooh |
| 23:41.48 | Hachiman | Now I wonder if Hróðvitnir is guarding the Eye willingly or if he has been disallowed from residing in the Ulfr-something realm |
| 23:42.10 | OluapPlayer | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150110234158/spore/images/9/9c/Thunardormir.png dorf colossus |
| 23:42.24 | Hachiman | Ooh sweet |
| 23:43.04 | Xho | dwarf colossus |
| 23:43.09 | Xho | aktuly 10m tall |
| 23:43.30 | OluapPlayer | colossal for a dwarf |
| 23:43.35 | Hachiman | So if he does not use a hammer |
| 23:43.39 | Hachiman | Does that mean he punches things instead |
| 23:43.45 | OluapPlayer | He uses a hammer |
| 23:43.49 | OluapPlayer | His model just lacks one |
| 23:43.59 | Hachiman | Ah right |
| 23:44.00 | OluapPlayer | He uses a hammer and a shield |
| 23:44.03 | Xho | Make it in vehicle editor |
| 23:44.12 | OluapPlayer | 2lazi2 |
| 23:44.19 | Xho | well i aint doin it |
| 23:44.29 | OluapPlayer | didnt ask u 2 nugget |
| 23:46.00 | OluapPlayer | I'll wait until Hachi is done working on Isiris before working on Thunardormir since I need his input on him |
| 23:46.53 | Hachiman | Right |
| 23:47.28 | Hachiman | So name suggestions I have for puppies are Ulfranvarsar, Ulfranvursar, and Ulfranvorsir |
| 23:47.47 | Hachiman | Anymore suggestions or which one of those three do you think is the best name for them |
| 23:47.58 | OluapPlayer | Ulfranvarsar sounds good to me |
| 23:48.07 | Hachiman | It will probably be one of those names aka Wargs, Lycanthropes, etc |
| 23:50.11 | Hachiman | So now we have subplanar werewolf viking demon warriors |
| 23:51.16 | OluapPlayer | Vurdalak - u meen food |
| 23:51.48 | Hachiman | Ulfranvarsar - fink u ment 2 call me sir dere vagfaic |
| 23:52.45 | Hachiman | Brings into question what sorta magic Ulfranvarsar use and what their armour and weaponry is made of |
| 23:53.21 | Hachiman | If they reside on some form of magical plane connected to Koldenwelt |
| 23:53.51 | Xho | Ulfranillarsir is an idea for the greater wolves |
| 23:54.16 | Xho | Hachiman: universal manipulation armour hur |
| 23:54.31 | Hachiman | dats op |
| 23:54.40 | Xho | That's what I work best in |
| 23:55.37 | OluapPlayer | can u not |
| 23:55.43 | OluapPlayer | Have them be arcane users |
| 23:55.44 | OluapPlayer | brb |
| 23:55.49 | Xho | git above level cap scrub |
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| 23:56.12 | OluapPlayer | rite back |
| 23:56.18 | Xho | git above level cap scrub |
| 23:56.33 | Hachiman | I was thinking of their armour and weapons being made of the Source except that it has been shapened into a more compact and solidified form through master-level concentration although that also sounds OP in my book hur |
| 23:57.10 | Hachiman | And I would rather make them somewhat fair even if they are intended to be destroyers and warriors of Isiris and the World Wolf and whatnot |
| 23:57.43 | OluapPlayer | The more Op = the harder to add to fiction |
| 23:58.00 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:58.03 | Xho | I seemed to do pretty well in it hur...then again I've had experience |
| 23:58.35 | OluapPlayer | Except no u fukin didnt |
| 23:59.23 | Xho | Not sure whether to take as joke or get angry |
| 23:59.45 | Hachiman | hao bout bof |
