IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141125

00:01.02TekDroidSo they're making another TW game...
00:02.53TekDroidBasically the Barbarian Invasion expansion of Rome 1, except a standalone game. :P
00:03.01TechnobliteratorMongols?
00:03.15TekDroidClose, "Atilla"
00:03.38Technobliteratoroh, Atilla the Hun
00:03.42Technobliteratormeh good enough
00:04.43TekDroidThey had all the Barbarian hordes in Rome 1, so this is basically just a standalone remake of the DLC.
00:08.14DrodoEmpireHonestly I'm pretty excited
00:08.20DrodoEmpireYou *just* heard about it?
00:08.21DrodoEmpire:P
00:08.56DrodoEmpireThough I won't make the mistake I made with Rome II; That is preorder it and realize I just bought a shitty, shitty game
00:09.33TekDroidYeah.
00:16.11TekDroid>.< This pokemon game just used "swag".
00:17.13DrodoEmpireEw
00:17.22OfficerJackal_wat
00:17.28OfficerJackal_nohhh. :(
00:18.50TekDroidI think the character is supposed to be some hip explorer guy or something.
00:19.14OfficerJackal_Oh well in that case, the word "Swag" is alright since it fits the character.
00:19.20Hachiman_Well consider "swag" can mean treasure
00:19.54TekDroidI think that's the rough usage.
00:20.01TekDroidIn that context
00:39.07DrodoEmpiretest
00:39.24DrodoEmpirehttps://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/l/t1.0-9/1655842_10152844936836605_2433311781849647392_n.jpg?oh=5dd9aa26b1f667b0231cfa834fc7ec15&oe=5512C0DA
00:43.25tcmwhat a great guy
00:54.14tcmif i wanted to make a page for some important person in my empire, i'd have to use the "captain" template, right
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00:54.30Hachiman_yES
00:54.33Hachiman_Whoops
00:54.34Hachiman_Yes
00:54.37Hachiman_And Hai Cat
00:54.40Hachiman_*hai
00:55.12CatfaceHello.
00:55.50tcmhow would i deal with a page for four people who technically count as one person
00:56.12DrodoEmpireI'm not sure... :P
00:56.19tcmthere's a hive mind sort of thing going on there
00:56.21DrodoEmpireAh
00:56.41DrodoEmpirePerhaps list the four individuals in sections of the page?
00:56.53Hachiman_I'd say make one page for the most common/significant incarnation and make the other three subpages of that main page
00:57.03DrodoEmpire^ That to
00:57.04DrodoEmpire*too
00:57.13tcmnice
01:04.34Catfacehttp://i.imgur.com/zW57IcF.jpg
01:16.43Wormy_]Finally sent my 3D geological mapping project to my lecturer for feedback
01:17.10Wormy_Now I must rest my injured eyes
01:17.43Wormy_ohgodlol
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01:24.03Wormy_Goodnight
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01:25.31Knight_AlienHi
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01:36.11Tek0516https://imgur.com/gallery/QY9RRxQ
01:36.38DrodoEmpire2spooky
01:36.53Knight_AlienAnimal Bonding.
01:37.44tcmbeautiful
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02:45.15GD12Whats up IRC
02:46.39DrodoEmpireNot much
02:51.49HalopediamanTelling the people in the FFWiki how they are scrubs in AoE2
02:53.50DrodoEmpirewat
02:54.00HalopediamanThat's what I'm doing. :P
02:54.28HalopediamanThey don't even play with Forgotten Empires. Might as well just give away their copies of AoE2HD.
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03:02.05The_RandomnessHello everyone
03:02.13Tek0516Hello
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03:03.00DrodoEmpire_Back
03:03.01DrodoEmpire_:P
03:04.26The_RandomnessTime to work a bit on this neat idea I got for a Salsetthe icon thingy
03:05.17GD12hrllo
03:05.20GD12hello even
03:05.26The_RandomnessHey GD12
03:05.46GD12can't wait for Thanksgiving and for the semester to finish
03:05.50The_Randomness^
03:06.09The_RandomnessTaking 4 physics classes next semester
03:06.11The_Randomness:3
03:06.33GD12GG
03:06.54GD12I'm avoiding physics
03:07.08GD12and instead trying to commit suicide via math stats cs and ee
03:07.12The_Randomnessrip
03:07.24GD12since experiments scare me
03:07.30GD12RIP The_Randomness and GD12
03:07.30The_RandomnessAstrophysics, Electricity and Magnetism, and Quantum Mechanics + lab
03:07.36GD12ngh lab
03:07.36The_Randomnessrip in pepperonis
03:07.40GD12don't say the L word
03:07.48The_Randomnesspls no laberino
03:08.23GD12then take quantum field theory semester after that for funsies
03:08.32The_Randomnessquantum memes
03:08.32GD12as well as functional analysis for hilbert shenanigans
03:08.53GD12quantum burgers
03:08.58GD12why did i even think of that
03:09.03The_RandomnessQuantum cheeseburger apocalypse
03:09.37GD12Then semester after that?
03:09.39GD125 physics classes
03:09.45GD12or switch to art history major?
03:09.53The_RandomnessPhilosophy, duh
03:09.58The_RandomnessActually, let me check
03:10.27Tek0516My next term in Chemistry, Mechanics (Engineering), Differential Equations and Series, Physics, and Imperative Programming.
03:11.49GD12Next Semester - Abstract Algebra, Real Analysis, Computer Vision, Advanced Computer Vision (I like Computer Vision), Fourier Analysis, Stochastic Processes
03:11.53GD12and Art History
03:11.55GD12:(
03:12.03The_Randomnessrip in canvas
03:12.21GD12Rest in Picasso
03:12.22The_RandomnessSemester after that will be moar astrophysics, math, Analytical Mechanics, and then probably some computer science
03:12.33Tek0516I'd like more programming but Software Emg means I need to take all these sciences.
03:12.33The_RandomnessCubismed to death
03:13.05GD12How does software engineering even relate to physics hurdur
03:13.47Tek0516Because the first year is nearly the same for every form of engineering.
03:14.04The_RandomnessComputer vision? wut
03:14.05GD12odere
03:14.07GD12i see
03:14.25GD12Computer vision is a field that includes methods for acquiring, processing, analyzing, and understanding images and, in general, high-dimensional data from the real world in order to produce numerical or symbolic information, e.g., in the forms of decisions.
03:14.31The_RandomnessAh
03:14.38GD12Basically it helps peeps design drones to kill peeps
03:14.58Tek0516And the Engineering core drives me insane sometimes, especially their "eco" lectures. From my rant after last week's: " Short version: The Western world is bad. Industry is bad. Give up transportation. Give up all modern conveniences. Everything is my fault and it's all my generation's problem."
03:15.00The_Randomnessdrop explosive memes from the sky
03:15.39GD12Tek0516 : PC Everywhere
03:16.10GD12Too much political correctness
03:16.30Tek0516Basically their eco lectures tend to be the "give up everything" kind. Which ironic for a lecture on engineering.
03:16.46The_RandomnessWe better go back to the stone age boys
03:16.57The_RandomnessBang rocks together to solve all the world's problems
03:17.28Tek0516The short version of my rant doesn't include the vegetarianism bit. XD
03:18.01GD12gtg
03:18.04The_RandomnessBye
03:18.55Tek0516Byr
03:18.59Tek0516*Bye
04:23.28Tek0516http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/547514834148498402/A6521CB3606CC599233E07238CCE566622AD4E60/ "It's just a flesh wound!"
04:24.04Tek0516O.o
04:25.15Knight_AlienMan of true wisdom!
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05:25.35TekDroid...well this battle is a bit troublesome...
05:26.02TekDroidAt least it means the AI has some logic. I hope. :P
05:30.56TekDroidNevermind, AI just had small awareness ramge. :P
05:32.17HalopediamanWhat game are we talking TekDroid?
05:32.32TekDroidMount and blade: warband
05:32.45HalopediamanI don't know what that is, so I'll assume it's terribad
05:33.12TekDroidNot at all.
05:33.47TekDroidBasically I had a battle where the only way either side could attack was suicidal.
05:34.40TekDroidEither the enemy had to cavalry charge my spear wall, or I had to rush mine up a steep hill.
05:37.44HalopediamanTekDroid
05:37.58HalopediamanWhy not simply call in air support and level the hill?
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05:53.36TekDroidI practically just doubled my armor in this. Maybe I'll die less now. XD
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09:34.29ImpyDroidHi
09:34.39ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink: http://nationalreport.net/mom-calls-911-on-son-new-self-rape-law/ 'MUHRICA
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09:42.25Liquid_Ink...
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10:03.14ImpyDroidHai
10:05.12OluapWorkerHi
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11:09.06HachimanHai
11:10.00ImpyDroidHi
11:10.07OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
11:10.07infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
11:10.09ImpyDroidHachiman OluapWorker: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/plybQyijWRmtFnh-xh803ZxACHT6rphS0O2iIiEth5MDlgUGiFFwV2KTVYDoigNvVLmJAg3oLQOX6nPMrSVYYhbxpSMiMunkasFlW-OkThR-hw_Hx8-2I18DcsQY446i_uXOxUkn7LZP2mURUKxOLPUBeA=w587-h446-nc
11:10.33OluapWorkerhur
11:10.56OluapWorkerImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Red_Harmony#Sisterly_Love chek
11:11.15ImpyDroid>Sisterly Love
11:11.21ImpyDroidThis already sounds kinky
11:11.27OluapWorkerhur
11:14.03OluapWorkerAnd I just realized I forgot one of Dragostea's lines there
11:14.08OluapWorkerGotta fix that tonight
11:17.12ImpyDroidThat is intriguing
11:17.14ImpyDroidAlso
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11:17.27JepardiHi
11:18.38ImpyDroid>
11:18.54ImpyDroidWas this process instant or gradual?
11:19.11OluapWorkerEh?
11:19.37HachimanHow'd you mean?
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11:25.28ImpyDroidOluapWorker: I mean did she just drop her elf glamour or physically transform into her succubus form
11:29.26Jepardihttp://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aVQmzGn_460s.jpg
11:30.09Hachiman"done a Hitler"
11:30.33ImpyDroidHitler - ICH BIN EIN ACTION NOW
11:33.04ImpyDroidJepardi: I think she is dyslexic
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11:36.16OluapWorkerDangit
11:37.09HachimanHai
11:37.14ImpyDroidOluapWorker: Seen what I wrote?
11:37.31OluapWorkerI said she transformed into her Succubus form
11:38.58OluapWorkerbbl
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12:23.16HachimanHai
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12:26.40OluapWorkerdai
12:28.01ImpyDroidHachiman: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/CwZBR5a2CDAt7R-y7XGwROqEiGwm0DROn_SuK7yPMAcbwJD0nDFg2mfIwYCcqEgPez8tGMrDQkLXIxjvG4TRWEyPyBgdyU0j9NVPWKvC0a3TDbYBzT3vhr7PQoHR8QvTjONCToM3fWmbuPTK4JE8vvD1_ujOdORkkdCmTA=w591-h443-nc
12:28.13Hachimanhur
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12:51.28ImpyDroidHi
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13:01.24dromTechnobliterator: If I upload a font (.tff file), can I then directly use it?
13:01.48TechnobliteratorNo, it has to be enabled in the CSS
13:03.07dromBah. I came across a font development environment. I had the idea of using it to create alien glyphs as font.
13:04.15TechnobliteratorIt would work, but not all browsers are compatible with .tff
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13:05.56dromAt last it can save into .otf
13:10.08ImpyDroid...the Westboro Baptist Church only has 40 members?
13:10.27HachimanYou expected it to be large?
13:11.24Technobliteratorif it only has 40 members, faith in humanity restored
13:12.09ImpyDroidWell I believed its numbers estimated in hundreds at least
13:12.22ImpyDroidAfter all it's kinda a big/vocal thing
13:13.20ImpyDroid> It was headed by Fred Phelps and consists primarily of members of his extended family;
13:13.28ImpyDroidSo basically it's a mafia
13:13.35OluapWorkerGODfather
13:13.38dromTechnobliterator: As very little I know of the Wikia's software. Is it possible to personalize the css as an user subpage?
13:13.49ImpyDroidHates fags
13:15.35dromImpyDroid: http://imgur.com/gallery/vyjEt
13:15.39ImpyDroidWell here go my plans of making a yuri fanfic about WBC members
13:15.47ImpyDroid...wait did I just say that out loud
13:16.35dromyeah?
13:17.06ImpyDroiddrom: genius
13:18.22ImpyDroidOkay frankly I saw a yaoi fanfic about the guy who proposed that gay propaganda law in Russia
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13:48.24Wormy_Hachiman, drom:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULxmsC6jTQE&list=UUk5TnDRtT8G2vRRFKbOI8Mg
13:50.12HachimanMy ideal job
13:55.10Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOVBA3QI_rY
14:01.41dromappearently, the endless formula for derivates is y^n(x) = (d^n)y/dx^n(y(x))
14:02.34dromwhere y(x) is the original formula
14:18.47Wormy_bbl
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14:33.22AdmiralPandaHi all
14:34.11HachimanHai Panda
14:34.15OluapWorkerHello
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14:37.29JepardiHi
14:40.52AdmiralPandaSo you know the Taken "I don't know who you are, but I will find you and I will kill you" meme pic?
14:41.19AdmiralPandaI just saw that followed by a picture of Chuck Norris saying "You're right, you don't know who I am"
14:42.03ImpyDroidhi
14:42.06ImpyDroidhur
14:43.08OluapWorkerChuck Norris
14:43.10OluapWorkerBlast from the past
14:43.35AdmiralPandaIndeed
14:43.55AdmiralPandaI saw a video of Chuck reading some of the jokes about him, he got halfway down the list and just said "What the actual fuck?"
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14:46.11Vincent20100Hey!
15:18.39AdmiralPandabrb changing computer
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15:27.58Vincent20100Hey Imper!
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15:32.18AdmiralPandaRight I'm back
15:32.23OluapWorkerew go away
15:32.55AdmiralPanda;-;
15:33.05AdmiralPandaFine then, I'll go away and take Luka with me
15:33.07AdmiralPandaand Cheshire
15:33.45OluapWorkergud, his litter box is too stinky
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15:45.02drommy head feels like it's going to explode
15:46.15dromTechnobliterator, I'll leave this question here while I'll be away for a duration of time: Is it possible to add the font on your own, or do I have to request you do it?
16:01.20Technobliteratordrom, you have to request it be added to the CSS
16:01.34TechnobliteratorI can add it for you if you want
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16:05.34OluapWorkerspu
16:05.40Xhome
16:05.52OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Red_Harmony#Sisterly_Love reed
16:06.19XhoI read that last night
16:06.30XhoMy response was 'Kalarah - succubi         strange lot'
16:07.50OluapWorkerur strange
16:08.21OluapWorkerGotta brb
16:10.20dromTechnobliterator: I shedded a little tear of disappointment. But I really appreciate your help! The font is actually for Aaillian language, Naakji tongue. In which I can then use it to reflect the sentences more, alien.
16:10.58TechnobliteratorIf you upload it, try enable it in your personal css first, and then I can make it go live after
16:11.38dromPersonal css personalizes your own end?
16:15.34Technobliteratorit does
16:15.42TechnobliteratorUser:Dromlexer/common.css
16:15.56TekDroidHm... I should work on my IRC bot later.
16:18.42TechnobliteratorUse Morgoth's on Github as a base
16:18.56TechnobliteratorIt has functionality to replace morgothbotpy and code RPs already
16:19.08TekDroidWhat language is that in?
16:19.13Technobliteratorpythin
16:19.17Technobliterator*python
16:19.59TekDroidAh, good. The bit I had already was in that
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16:27.02Tek0516Found it. About to sit through a lecture on Python I probably won't pay nuch attention to anyway. XD
16:28.31Technobliteratorhrh
16:28.33Technobliterator*heh
16:32.21drom|acheI have found a C#-based IRCbot skeleton
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16:32.28OluapWorkerhonk
16:33.46Xhour a honk
16:33.54OluapWorkerNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
16:34.22Xhoyih
16:35.31drom|achegoddamn sherlocks these days
16:36.01XhoI was wondering about Storm Magic while I'm editing this page
16:36.33XhoWould it make sense to have Electromancy as an adopted form of Aetheromancy like Pyromancy/Luxomancy is with Heliomancy
16:36.48OluapWorkerI suppose
16:37.32OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mentiryanth this char is canon now
16:37.53Xhoying
16:39.01XhoIn that case I give permission to make a new Storm Colossus
16:39.09XhoIn this case it would be a Thunder Colossus though
16:39.16OluapWorkerstormolossus
16:39.47OluapWorkerIf Storm is an alien magic then ideally there shouldn't be a Storm Colossus
16:40.09XhoIt's not
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16:40.44XhoCelestial is just an alien magic by itself now
16:41.00XhoSun, Storm and Darkness are the three old-main magic types
16:41.08XhoAs it was originally
16:42.03XhoSo in a sense dark magic is the only old magic that remains in full swing
16:44.27Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source That makes more sense now
16:44.50XhoI just put 'creator' under the magic school so instead we can have patron deity who isn't necessarily related to the creator
16:45.16XhoWhich reminds me, we've decided that there can now be a Darkness Colossus and a Sun Colossus
16:46.42OluapWorkerI got ideas for a new Old Fire Colossus
16:46.52OluapWorkerWhich's totally not a giga big Fire Drake daddy
16:47.21XhoOh yeah and old Fire Colossus hur
16:48.01XhoWe need a Sky Colossus as well
16:48.39XhoPersonally I'd like to make a new Colossus but I have lots of them
16:48.46XhoOr do I
16:48.47XhoI dunno now
16:49.11XhoOne
16:49.19OluapWorkerI think Hahci wanted to make the Sky one
16:49.22XhoTwo even
16:49.24OluapWorkerHachi even
16:49.32Xhowell go make it den dum buni
16:49.48XhoThree if you count joint ownership of Lorchakim
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16:51.33TekDroidHello
16:53.35OluapWorkerI still gotta remake the Khrokar
16:53.49OluapWorkerAnd probably give the Old Colossal One a real name
16:54.47XhoFugu
16:56.06XhoI'm currently remaking Instrumentalist
17:00.10XhoProbably turning it into a Void Denizen
17:00.16XhoEidolon most likely
17:04.54TekDroid>.< Maybe I'm just an idiot but I cannot figure out how to install the IRC module.
17:12.06HachimanOluapWorker: Make OCO white
17:12.36HachimanAnd then get your harpoon ready
17:12.39Hachimanbrb
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17:12.54OluapPlayerIRC went apeshit
17:13.01OluapPlayerHachiman: y wuld eye do dat
17:13.13Hachimancuz u need 2 c da white whaaaaaaale
17:13.18Hachimanbrb properly
17:13.22OluapPlayerhur
17:13.26XhoTHE WHALE
17:13.28XhoHE BE WHITE NOW
17:13.54OluapPlayerMoby Dong
17:16.55Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141125171627/spore/images/a/a4/NewInstrumentalist.png
17:19.45Xhogit tentacru nightmares nao
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17:25.17ImperiosReading about the Christianisation of Russia for history now
17:25.42Xhogood luk
17:25.57ImperiosApparently Knyaz Svyatoslav (that's the guy who made Russia Christian eventually) contemplated upon converting Russia into Islam at one point
17:26.08ImperiosAccording to chronicles at least
17:27.17Xhogeezush
17:27.27XhoAnyway I've given the Nothing Denizens a name
17:27.31Imperios*muhammad
17:27.32XhoSempiternals
17:27.34Imperioshur
17:27.41XhoIsa*
17:27.56Imperios*dieinfidel
17:28.31ImperiosSvyatoslav purportedly rejected Islam because it prohibited drinking
17:28.46Imperiosthat's a fairly legit issue
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17:36.30OluapWorkerGoddamnsadgfadsg
17:40.19XhoOluapWorker: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141125171627/spore/images/a/a4/NewInstrumentalist.png git tentacru
17:43.23XhoInstrumentalist: 2            Oluap: 0
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17:52.09OluapWorkerLife truly is suffering
17:52.49OluapWorkerXho: dat not an instrument
17:55.20Xhonor is mayonnaise
17:55.34OluapWorkerying
17:55.38XhoI've also given a name to the Nothing Void Denizens
17:55.41XhoSempiternals
17:56.03OluapWorkerdum=dums
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18:08.23TekDroidO.o I thought about taking the elevator for once, few seconds later the elevator doors open and it's empty. Never hit the button.
18:09.05OluapWorkerghostie
18:11.16dromTechnobliterator: I have got what I needed in the .otf file. I'll be uploading it up to the site. Updating it over and over to improve the quality and look later in the future.
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18:18.44XhoHm I need to replot Shroud of the Sun now slightly
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18:19.16OluapWorker_This is getting really annoying
18:19.47Imperioshttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/855/334/db2.jpg heh
18:21.48XhoTransethnics
18:21.49Xholel
18:24.47XhoI was thinking of doing a story for the Fantasyverse
18:24.52XhoAs in Terminus-style
18:25.01OluapPlayerwot dis
18:25.33XhoMainly to do with stories for Esulus and Taihadrae
18:25.42XhoOr a story I dunno
18:26.31OluapPlayerdey asplode
18:26.32OluapPlayerde end
18:26.39XhoSince the Dawn Wardens aren't canon anymore I'll have to swing things around until I can figure out how to re-canon Shroud of the Sun
18:28.18OluapPlayerWell the premise of them going to the fortress and needing the armory door open can still work as long as we figure out a reason for them to be there
18:28.38XhoI'll figure something out
18:29.19OluapPlayerWould it still be okay for Vixaatus and the Sand Drakes to remain there?
18:29.29XhoThat's fine by me
18:29.36OluapPlayerying
18:29.41XhoI am planning to make Longinus a resident there though
18:29.46XhoEventually
18:29.48OluapPlayerThat's expected
18:30.08OluapPlayerReally all we need is to find a new motivation and refer to them as something other than Dawn Wardens
18:30.08XhoLonginus - my fortress        mine            Vixaatus - grr
18:30.23Xho"The Guards of That Sun That's Rising Over There"
18:30.47OluapPlayerNorrigan - aye
18:31.18OluapPlayerVixaatus - c dis fortress                it in C OF SAND                  MY C                 EET C
18:31.30XhoLonginus - eet sun
18:31.41XhoNorrigan just comes in with a soup boul of pure light
18:31.59OluapPlayerLonginus - how                    Pelagrios - answer is rum
18:32.57XhoRum solves all things
18:33.13XhoDunno what to call this other story though
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18:34.02OluapPlayerPelagrios - Give rum to Caligaduro, he'll be too drunk to destroy the world
18:34.24XhoSuddenly, Caligademo
18:34.59OluapPlayerCaligademo - JUST A ONE EYED BLOODY MOSNTER *trips over a mountain range*
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18:35.34XhoTrying hard to think of names
18:36.09XhoWell thought of one
18:36.25Tek0516Hello
18:37.16Xho"That be Garrus... No, Gandal-- Garandharul!"
18:37.26XhoSuddenly I think of 'Calibration Shots'
18:37.38Tek0516"Garanskstddskwsjkalaiwkskakkwl"
18:38.19XhoGarandharul is a pretty tame name compared to other things hur
18:38.29XhoSix years on and people still can't spell Dhazhrak
18:38.38OluapPlayer"faget"
18:38.38OluapPlayerdere
18:38.46XhoDhazhrak - ;;;A;;;
18:40.29Tek0516"That guy with the name no one knows"
18:40.49XhoThat would be Incognito hur
18:41.15Tek0516*knows how to spell
18:41.59ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Wait, DWs are not canon?
18:42.21XhoThe new ones aren't any more
18:42.27ImpyDroidwha
18:42.28ImpyDroidwhy
18:42.30ImpyDroiddum
18:42.45Tek0516"That guy with the long wierd and extremely confusing name that no non-demon knows how to spell and it's so confusing even his nickname is long"
18:43.03XhoThat could go for a lot of my characters
18:43.31ImpyDroidSo, why exactly aren't the Dawn Wardens canon?
18:43.53XhoSomething along the lines of them being too central to fiction
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18:44.15OluapWorkerJesus christ
18:44.16Tek0516Xho summarized: "But can we make it longer?"
18:44.27OluapWorkerImpyDroid: Modern Wardens aren't canon, ancient ones are
18:44.33ImpyDroidrite
18:44.38ImpyDroidWhy's that exactly
18:44.44XhoI just said u dunce
18:45.06OluapWorkerBecause they became a sore to coordinate
18:45.09ImpyDroidWell OP may have his own perspective
18:45.12ImpyDroidOh, right
18:45.33ImpyDroidWell, here go my plans of sneaking in my other characters there then
18:45.34OluapWorkerAnd everything began circling around them, which was never my intention
18:45.42XhoWhich is what I said hur
18:45.48ImpyDroidrite
18:47.38dromTechnobliterator: Sorry for playing ping pong with you. But the font works perfectly on my end now.
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18:56.26Imperios~test
18:56.26infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
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19:15.04OluapPlayer;-;
19:15.47Xhohoh
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19:15.51GhelaeHello.
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19:16.22Wormy_Hi
19:16.22HachimanI wanna find a way to include the Bharloron into fiction somehow
19:16.41HachimanI'm working hard on them and I want them to be used ;-;
19:16.44Xhohav them eeten by big giant noms
19:16.57OluapPlayeray go work on Sovereign
19:16.57Hachimanur a sik fuk
19:17.20Xhoyes
19:17.23Wormy_Anyone here experienced with javascript?
19:17.32Wormy_I think drom is
19:17.34HachimanWell
19:18.03Wormy_I'm having an unresolvable peice of code
19:18.13Tek0516Oh?
19:18.22Wormy_Hang on, let me fetch it
19:19.50Wormy_Teko516:  http://pastie.org/9743145
19:20.11Wormy_Each is an attempt to create a solo while loop which didn't woirk
19:22.00Wormy_I've even used codes which other people said worked, but I keep getting "SyntaxError: Unexpected token ILLEGAL"
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19:22.09Tek0516Well the top one is missing a semicolon on the count++
19:22.13Tek0516Hello!
19:22.16Angrybirds_AirHai
19:22.55Wormy_Still giving me the same error
19:23.38Tek0516Also the open expression with the count( below it
19:23.58Wormy_Yep, fixed that, still the same error
19:24.37Tek0516And semicolon on the variable?
19:25.13Wormy_var count = 0?
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19:26.15TekDroidYeah.
19:26.42Wormy_the error still won't budge lol
19:31.39TekDroidThe error message gives no line numbers either? :/
19:31.49ImperiosHachiman: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/648268
19:31.54Wormy_nope
19:32.05Wormy_I'm using Codecademy thoigh
19:33.42TekDroidI'm mostly just guessing using Java syntax here. :/ Their functions are defined quite differently
19:35.43Wormy_yeah
19:41.53dromWormy_: Oh yes I do. What's the matter?
19:42.36Wormy_Keep getting syntax errors for any of these http://pastie.org/9743145
19:43.52dromthe function is missing a constructor parameter.
19:43.58dromthe ()
19:44.36dromAnd you can't have a function with itself in.
19:45.00Wormy_Already fixed the first one
19:45.03Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Black_Wave Well there's one section done
19:46.11Wormy_Hm drom how would you write it?
19:46.30Wormy_"Inside the soloLoop function, write a while loop that takes an initial condition that's true. Your loop should log "Looped once!" to the console, then change that initial condition to false."
19:47.10dromLemme test
19:51.43dromWormy_: http://pastebin.com/AZ6vE3tU
19:52.30dromit's called very time when the [HTML] document is being loaded.
19:53.22Wormy_It worked!
19:53.25Wormy_thanks
19:53.44dromno probs
19:54.05XhoSo I just had a 'spicy' Pepperami
19:54.14dromOne thing. It will spit out errors if you put in variables in the constructor bracket.
19:54.21XhoIf that's what the British call spicy, well you need to level up
19:54.33dromBecause it's a function packed inside an object.
19:55.50XhoOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Black_Wave did u c dis
19:56.05dromEverytime the defined object (e.g. sololoop) is called, it will create a local instance of the function.
19:56.15OluapPlayerWon't have time to read now
19:56.20Xhogit shrekd
19:56.25XhoHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Black_Wave c dis
19:56.26dromBy local, it will be created and then "killed" once done.
19:56.46Hachimanrite
19:57.24Wormy_I see
19:57.53dromBesides, on the topic of fiction: I did some swag. http://i.imgur.com/41ufwHk.png
20:04.24dromAnd no. It's not a friggin' image. It's a text with custom font.
20:06.39XhoIn .png
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20:07.22DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
20:08.39dromXho: Because I can only see it at my end for the moment.
20:08.46Xhorite
20:09.02dromUnless you czech it out. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation
20:10.09dromSee the Roman Times font? It's cause I'm using a personal CSS and I'm waiting for our beloved kitchen woman to help me
20:15.21Wormy_tut tut battery going
20:54.14ImpyDroidhttp://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--c8YOm3uH--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18d0iomp18ec1jpg.jpg My god the puna
20:54.17ImpyDroidpuns
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21:17.23Knight_AlienHello
21:18.18dromTechnobliterator: Did'a c my messages?
21:18.26Technobliteratornope, which ones?
21:18.47XhoHachiman: Talon (Raptor) -> Civic Guards can only just screech now
21:19.14Hachimanhur
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21:20.16DrodoEmpireBack
21:20.17DrodoEmpire:P
21:20.33dromTechnobliterator: bah. But anyway: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/common.css
21:20.42dromThe file is an .otf
21:20.56TechnobliteratorOkay, I can add it
21:21.38Technobliteratoradded
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21:22.28TekDroidNow that is clever: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/oUR6ShB
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21:23.15OluapPlayerXho: is gud story so far
21:23.20Xhoying
21:23.37dromTechnobliterator: Thanks, does it show up in the infobox for you? Try Shift+F5 if not. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Naakjian_Confederation
21:23.50OluapPlayerI like the synergy between Taihadrae and Esulus
21:24.05TechnobliteratorWhich part?
21:24.08Technobliteratoralso hi dumbo
21:24.15OluapPlayerlosa
21:24.22XhoSynergy
21:24.25OluapPlayerIs your bot still borked?
21:24.28XhoI don't know this word
21:24.38OluapPlayerHow well two things work together
21:24.44OluapPlayerAt least I think that's what it means
21:24.54XhoRight
21:25.02dromThe supertitle. The one between the tiny Empire and the latine translation of said bit.
21:25.03TechnobliteratorI haven't got it to run yet, but until I do you can use CyraBot
21:25.14OluapPlayerrite I'll nag Cyrannian then
21:25.19HachimanSinergy
21:25.24dromCyrannian is bosy
21:25.45Technobliteratorthe font looks different, but it doesn't look...alien
21:26.15dromIs it New Times Roman?
21:26.38TechnobliteratorI think so
21:27.02dromNuke the Shift or Ctrl AND F5.
21:27.18dromUntil you get something like this: http://i.imgur.com/41ufwHk.png
21:27.49TechnobliteratorI know how to hard refresh :o
21:27.50XhoHachiman: I think 'Wardens of Gold' in Latin is 'constabularii aurorum' rather than 'aurum praefectum'
21:27.57Technobliteratorah, that's better
21:27.59Technobliteratoryeah
21:28.07OluapPlayerVixaatus - AYY
21:28.13dromYey!
21:29.43HachimanXho: I'm not trying to be too literal with my Latin considering I dunno much about it but thanks hur
21:30.44HachimanPlus "praefectum" sounds cooler than "constabularii" in my opinion hur
21:32.01XhoWell you can say praefectum aurorum
21:32.18Hachimanrite
21:32.49XhoOr is it praefectum aurum...not sure
21:32.49XhoImperios' latin is better than mine
21:32.58dromTechnobliterator: Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. Now- go back to where you belong to. The kitchen. We are hungry.
21:32.59HachimanWell this is Old Tongue
21:33.00HachimanNot Latin hur
21:33.05XhoTrue true
21:33.07Hachimanthus i aint gotta explain shi
21:33.07drom*smugface*
21:33.28XhoI kind of created Dark Elvish and Protodynastic Orichalcum so that I wouldn't use Old Tongue
21:33.33Technobliterator.__.
21:33.37Technobliteratorbut anyway np
21:33.39XhoUsing Latin as a fictional language is a bit ngh
21:34.11OluapPlayerur ngh
21:34.25XhoThough Dark Elvish ended up being harder than Latin
21:37.18XhoNever ever ever use Google Translate for Latin
21:37.23XhoSeriously murders the language
21:38.00dromwelp, smiling with an open wide mouth in a poorly-light room is like a horror movie with erotic cliches.
21:38.32TekDroidO.o
21:38.36XhoEither that or it's an erotic move with horror cliches
21:40.26DrodoEmpireSo I basically got the Loron done guys; What nation would you want me to do next?
21:40.31DrodoEmpireFor the mod
21:40.48XhoXhodocto               total hax pl0x
21:40.58DrodoEmpirehur
21:41.06drom6/6/6 leader
21:41.07DrodoEmpireI could try adding an event for that though...
21:41.38HachimanDrodoEmpire: Zazane pls
21:41.46DrodoEmpire"With the Xhodocto tech group, technologies are free."
21:41.49DrodoEmpirek den
21:41.50DrodoEmpire:3
21:42.37DrodoEmpireI'll get to work on them; I just have to quickly code in one extra Loron country (should only take a few minutes) and I'm good
21:44.09DrodoEmpireIt'd be funny if the Xhodocto where like the Mongols on Crusader Kings 2; A few events would go off prior to their arrival warning you of dark times ahead, until boom; A giant event army pops up and takes shit over
21:45.00XhoXhodocto - city wall                 u mean our city wall
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21:45.39DrodoEmpire_Did I miss anything?
21:46.01XhoNope
21:46.08XhoYou were gone one minute or less
21:46.14XhoI just said
21:46.20Xho"Xhodocto - city wall                 u mean our city wall"
21:46.27DrodoEmpire_Right lol
21:48.59TekDroid*challenges lord to duel while at 10% health* -> *knocks at in one hit*
21:49.05TekDroid*out
21:52.44Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141125171627/spore/images/a/a4/NewInstrumentalist.png Just in case people didn't see, I made purple shiny thing
21:53.04OluapPlayerwiggly
21:53.23HachimanGeezush
21:53.31DrodoEmpireThere, made a whole new government type for the loron because I was sick of fiddling around with the national ideas. :P
21:53.45DrodoEmpireLets see if it works
21:53.48Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Supernaturals Shit son page needs updating
21:53.56XhoOr removing
21:53.59XhoRemoving is probably better
21:54.43OluapPlayerYeah remove
21:54.56XhoI mean it still refers to Kalisearan and Alar'xashan as Nirdesa and Anaikya
22:03.00XhoCan someone give me a fancy-ish name to alternate with the Void Denizens from Nothing
22:03.18HachimanHow fancy?
22:03.41XhoNot fancy fancy, just something one would refer them to
22:04.25HachimanDon't they already have "Habitual Voidwalkers"?
22:04.58XhoYeah but they're just passive spirits
22:05.08XhoI mean to refer to *all* Void Denizens from Nothing
22:05.17HachimanOh right
22:05.33XhoI have the term 'Sempiternals' but I want a more descriptive name
22:07.39HachimanI don't really have anything right now, sorry
22:07.52Xho<PROTECTED>
22:27.21DrodoEmpireOkay, final test for the Loron nations and its the Zazane
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22:29.48DrodoEmpire_Its working perfectly! :D
22:29.58DrodoEmpire_I'll upload images in a bit
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22:30.43TekDroidBrb
22:30.47TybusenHello
22:30.53DrodoEmpire_Hello
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22:40.48MonetHi
22:41.39TybusenHello
22:46.03Tek0516Hello
22:49.41DrodoEmpire_There, also added two really good CBs for the Loron
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23:10.21Tek0516I'm in a lecture explaining other programs and a bit on what mine is. If you want anything PLEASE ask. >.<
23:12.55MonetIts really sounding like you're not learning much on your chosen field
23:13.47Tek0516I'm not. This course is mostly on things like drafting and measuring. I'm a programmer.
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23:14.18DrodoEmpire:P
23:14.23DrodoEmpireANyone need me while I was gone?
23:14.26DrodoEmpire*Anyone
23:14.51Tek0516First year is basically the same between all engineering programs. It's mostly various sciences first year.
23:14.58Tek0516Hey. Nothing really
23:17.51Tek0516The Maths I can justify, it's hard to explain the value of chemistry for a programmer.
23:26.44DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Operation_Marines/SporeWiki_Fictions_for_Europa_Universalis#Loron_Gangs - Added the Loron gangs stuff
23:26.53DrodoEmpireTechnobliterator check it out
23:27.14Technobliteratorsec
23:28.10HachimanI wonder if there are sections of the universe that are hotter/colder than others
23:28.29HachimanAs in, parts of the universe retaining the heat it had during its beginning or at least near it
23:29.06DrodoEmpireHm
23:29.33DrodoEmpireyeh dere calld stars u dum
23:29.38DrodoEmpire:3
23:33.19Tek0516In seriousness, it's possible but it wouldn't be much probably.
23:34.13Tek0516Though heat doesn't disappear so technically some thermal energy is from the beginning.
23:35.16TybusenTechnically there's only so much potential energy contained within the universe
23:35.27Tek0516Technically there is no heat left from the beginning of tge universe if my understanding is correct, as heat is merely the transfer of thermal energy.
23:35.47TybusenThere's likely no section of the universe that is nearly as hot as it was at the Big Bang
23:36.04Tek0516No, not evrn close.
23:36.43TybusenI believe the main reason why the heat death of the universe will occur is because there's a fixed amount of energy (including potential energy stored as mass) in the universe but the universe can essentially reach infinite volume
23:37.12Tek0516Can't take tens of billions of light years of space and compare it to when its size was a singularity. :P
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23:37.35Wormy_hi
23:37.57TybusenTo get anything to the same energy level as the Big Bang today would mean either taking all of the energy out of the universe at once, including all of its mass, or creating new energy
23:38.01TybusenHai Wormy
23:38.10Tek0516Tybusen: partially that, but also eventually all energy sources would be used up and energy would be uniform, IIRC
23:38.28Wormy_hi
23:38.46TybusenEnergy would become so spread thin across an infinitely-large universe that the temperature of the universe would be practically zero
23:39.04Tek0516Discussing the beginning and end of the universe if you want to jump in Wormy_. ;)
23:39.12Wormy_sure]
23:39.35TybusenWe know that black holes convert mass to pure energy, and they're one of the main reasons the universe will die
23:40.11Wormy_One of my favourite ideas is Conformal Cyclic Cosology
23:40.34TybusenI believe there are a few processes that technically convert energy to mass but they obviously don't perform it on the scale of a black hole
23:42.03Wormy_Roger Penrose mathematically has a model that shows that the Big Bang conditions are equivalent to that close to Heat Death.  All thatr is left after the last black holes in his model are essentially photons, which having zero mass, don't have any concept of time.
23:42.27Wormy_The universe's geometry forgets how big it is
23:42.47Tek0516Interesting
23:42.55Wormy_And the conditions become that of the next big bang
23:43.16TybusenThe only thing I wonder is where all the energy and mass that is put into the Big Bang comes from
23:43.33Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformal_cyclic_cosmology
23:43.39TybusenDoes it come from the remains of the old universe or is a new universe forged on top of the old one?
23:45.25Wormy_Well all the fermions are gone, leaving behind bosons which behave to conformal geometry, meaning that the past and future geometry are really the same
23:45.40Tek0516Before the beginning truly is a curious thing.
23:46.45TybusenMy understanding of the Big Bang is that all of the energy and potential mass of the universe is balled into an infinitesimally small cocoon before exploding and giving birth to a universe
23:48.18Wormy_Generally, it seems all current ideas boil down to three things:  the flow of time isn't actually real in the sense of the whole universe, spacetime is a static structure in which it can make sense to say there is no before.  Or, the whole is eternal, but living in a multiverse.  And of course, the one unpopular to physicalists:  incomprehensible or even supernatural origins
23:49.13HachimanYeah fuck that last one
23:49.42Wormy_The issues physicists debate over today with the Big Bang is the origin of time's arrow, and its initial state
23:51.54Wormy_The universe's evolution and its initial order has followed an extremely fine set of values.  Boiling most ideas down again, either time before the big bang is infinite, so that all those values were at equilibrium and infinite amount of time ago, its actuyally physically meaningless
23:55.05Wormy_Since if nothing really moves in time, then in the static universe/multiverse, some parts of it are determined to causally arrange events into an arrow, and others not so (i.e. the big bang, interiors of black holes, or quantum foam.)
23:55.49Wormy_For me if we acceot that idea, it really kills any mystery to our origins

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