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00:43.46DazelHi.
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01:03.44DrodoEmpireHey. everyone
01:03.51DazelHi.
01:04.17DrodoEmpireHello
01:04.30DazelHow are you?
01:04.37DrodoEmpireGood, thanks
01:07.49Vincent20100Hey Dazel
01:07.57DazelHi, Vincent.
01:08.55Vincent20100LOng time no see :)
01:09.28DazelI was grounded.  Good to be back, though.
01:30.57HachimanSo
01:31.08HachimanI'm finding it difficult to see how Sauron was the bad guy
01:31.17DazelHe just was.
01:31.32Dazelre: Ganondorf in Wind Waker
01:32.37HachimanSauron had a lot of beneficial motives, including unifying the world under an ordered discipline so that there would be no more wars or fighting between one another and everyone would have a common goal, and he was an industrial mastermind who allowed for a booming rate of employment
01:33.07DazelEver read Mistborn by Brandon Sanderson, Hachiman?
01:33.14HachimanNope
01:33.43DazelWhen it comes to questioning the alignment of an antagonist...
01:33.49DazelLet's just say it's a good book in general.
01:33.50Vincent20100Sauron, the bad guys of lord of the ring? o_O
01:34.42HachimanAye
01:35.52AdmiralPandaWell, since his plan includes the complete destruction of the dwarves, corruption of the elves and enslavement of the humans, it's pretty easy to see
01:36.06DazelHachiman, consider Hitler.
01:36.23DazelNot trying to be the "everything ties into Hitler" guy here, but wasn't he essentially the same?
01:36.36DazelI haven't read/seen any of the Lord of the Rings things, but I'm going off of what I'm hearing.
01:36.45HachimanHe wished to unify the world under a single government and was not as racially imposed as other evil beings in Tolkein's Middle-Earth were for he would have allowed the elves and humans to reside under his domain in relative protection
01:37.02AdmiralPandaHachiman: And enslavement/corruption :P
01:39.45HachimanWell consider that the corrupted elves would probably no longer be in danger of extinction as they were prior
01:40.46HachimanOr at least, I believe they were facing extinction, I know that despite their immortality they were no longer thriving
01:43.57AdmiralPandaI'm not really sure what was going on with them, they decided to bugger off back to their homeland or somesuch
01:45.08DazelHas anyone made an empire on the wiki based on Homestuck?
01:45.18HachimanNo and why would you do that
01:45.29DazelBecause Homestuck takes place in space and is beautiful.
01:45.39HachimanWhen you want to make fiction on the wiki, you want to make it good fiction
01:45.53Dazel...Is that a shot at Homestuck, or at my originality?
01:46.13HachimanLargely at Homestuck
01:46.21HachimanPartially at your originality if you wanted to expy it
01:46.38TechnobliteratorDazel, Hitler is a poor comparison
01:46.48DazelWell, I have an original universe.  So I would consider that sufficient, personally.  AND HOMESTUCK IS PERFECT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
01:47.12DazelTechnobliterator: Like I said, I was just working off of what I heard.  And what I heard was " his plan includes the complete destruction of the dwarves, corruption of the elves and enslavement of the humans."
01:47.20TechnobliteratorHonestly, the atrocities committed by the Nazi Party are less Hitler being evil and more his party being terribly disorganised
01:47.30HachimanAnd Hitler being an idiot
01:47.49TechnobliteratorMore him being lazy as hell and having no control over his party
01:48.27TechnobliteratorMost decisions were made by the lower-downs coming up with radical decisions to please him, and him nodding his head and not bothering with the specificd
01:48.28TechnobliteratorS
01:48.29HachimanWell consider many of the military campaigns Nazi Germany had a hand in and subsequently failed, like the initial invasion of Russia, had Hitler's hand in it
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01:48.40HachimanAnd he was a poor decision-maker and strategist
01:48.48AdmiralPandaAs Techno said, he just nodded and went along with it
01:48.54AdmiralPandaHe was the motivator not the decision-maker
01:49.14HachimanHm true
01:49.27AdmiralPandaWhich WOULD have worked fine if he didn't demand to be notified before any important decision was made
01:50.16AngrybirdsWelp. We've just proved Goodwin's law. Again. xD
01:50.22HachimanAlthough I wonder if one could say that Hitler's initial intentions were noble in a patriotic sense, as he was largely motivated by the economic recession of Germany post-WW1
01:50.46AdmiralPandaHitler was always noble of intent, it was the party's actions that were evil
01:51.06HachimanI remember that the Holocaust wasn't his idea
01:51.21TechnobliteratorAll of his intentions were noble and patriotic, that's why he was loved. With the glaring exception being his anti-Semitism
01:51.53TechnobliteratorHowever, that was socially acceptable at the time, meaning it would not have been perceived as bad.
01:52.47TechnobliteratorAnd no, the Holocaust was the Final Solution offered by a party member trying to please them. His original plan was to send them to Madagascar
01:53.34HachimanHe was gonnaturn Madagascar into Australia 2.0?
01:53.49AdmiralPandaAs an Australian, I'm somewhat ok with that
01:53.55AdmiralPandaNot the way you phrased it mind
01:54.35TechnobliteratorAustralia 2.0 is actually a good comparison
01:54.56TechnobliteratorHitler also admired the British Empire and didn't want to go to war with us
01:58.29HachimanI would say the real villains of World War 2 were the Japanese Empire but then I don't know too much of the Japanese politicians during World War 2
01:59.03AdmiralPandaI don't know their motivations so all I can say is they dun fukked up
01:59.12HachimanConsider the actions the Japanese undertook at Nanking
01:59.57TechnobliteratorI haven't studied Japanese histiry
02:00.32TechnobliteratorThough I do not think anyone deserves what happened to them when they were hit by nuclear weapons
02:00.49HachimanWell no, nobody deserves nuclear genocide
02:01.23TechnobliteratorThat was horrific
02:01.57TechnobliteratorI don't just hate the US for launching the weapons, I hate the Japanese government for not surrendering after the first
02:02.11TechnobliteratorThat was so careless to their own people
02:02.52HachimanAlso consider that Japanese engineers were paid to intentionally sabotage Japanese aircraft so Kamikaze actions were to be forced upon pilots
02:02.56DrodoEmpireWell of course it was yeah; But in all probability a land invasion onto Japan would have been much, much costlier and would have likely prolonged the war by a great deal.
02:03.13DrodoEmpireIt was the lesser evil, nuclear weapons; By a very small margin
02:03.15DrodoEmpireimo
02:03.26Vincent20100The Japanese went at war because they needed resources like coal, wood and other minerals to fuel their industry
02:03.35Vincent20100Which was newly develloped
02:03.39HachimanAmerican occupation still occured afterward though
02:03.54DrodoEmpireSo? That wasn't a beachhead invasion
02:03.55DrodoEmpire:P
02:03.56HachimanFor nearly a decade, along with the reformation of their culture and society
02:04.09TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, a land invasion would be much less a cold murder and would not cause any involved family to give birth to deformed children
02:04.20DrodoEmpireIt wasn't as if they where fighting Japanese soldiers on the streets during the occupation
02:04.47Vincent20100DrodoEmpire: The Japanese had litteraly nothing left to fight with
02:05.00Vincent20100They had no bullets at all
02:05.10Tek0516I doubt that.
02:05.14DrodoEmpire^
02:05.37DrodoEmpireTech: Oh? By modern estimates american casualties on the beach invasion of Kyushu alone would have been a half-million
02:05.38Tek0516If Japan had nothing left they wouldn't have needed to use nukes.
02:05.50DrodoEmpireNot counting civilian or japanese casualties.
02:05.51AdmiralPandaIt's true- the government told its citizens that, in event of invasion, they were to take up spears and fight in hand to hand
02:05.58Vincent20100And the American already destroyed the majors cities with incendiary bomb ( which killed more than the bombs)
02:06.22DrodoEmpireThen there's the rest of the island which would have been even more uncounted tens of thousands of deaths
02:06.55Tek0516Japan wasn't exactly an Asian France. ( :P ) You would have had cities destroyed across the country.
02:06.59DrodoEmpireChances are the Japanese would have surrendered until Tokyo itself was taken, which would have been a long war which would have done even more damage then two bombs
02:07.04TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, that's not half as cold as flying over a city with a nuclear warhead and merely dropping it below, causing untold deaths merely at the click of a button
02:07.07DrodoEmpire*wouldn't
02:07.28HachimanYeah the nuclear assault did fuck up generations of Japanese families due to the fallout and the way people died during the actual events were just gut-renchingly horrifying and inhumane
02:07.45HachimanI think it still affects some minority of Japanese households today even
02:07.50TechnobliteratorWhen you murder people to their faces, you're still a cruel bastard, but you are forced to look your victim in the eye, often leaving you with PTSD
02:08.05Vincent20100The Japanese people had nothing left, they have been heavily rationnated during the whole war and were starving
02:08.07DrodoEmpireSo pulling a trigger on a machine gun and mowing down an entire battalion of soldiers or civilians is any less "cold"?
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02:08.29HachimanThey die quicker and less painfully
02:08.29DrodoEmpireAnd you *want* people, soldiers just doing their job, to suffer for the rest of their lives?
02:08.32AdmiralPandaI'm going to have to play the devil here and say that, despite any arguments to the contrary, it was far more practical to just drop the bombs and be done with it
02:08.37DrodoEmpire^
02:08.44DrodoEmpireAgain, it shortened the war
02:08.48DrodoEmpireI never said it was a good thing
02:08.49Angrybirds_We often ignore the fact that Japan had already -tried- to surrender by this point.
02:08.49TechnobliteratorWhen you murder by dropping a bomb, you also have to live with the knowledge that you have ruined the lives of countless people
02:08.56Angrybirds_The Americans had refused.
02:09.00TechnobliteratorBy merely pressing a button
02:09.02DrodoEmpireSo that renders your own argument moot
02:09.27AdmiralPandaTechno: When you murder in general you have to live with that knowledge. Better to not know their names or faces, blank guilt is a lot easier to live with.
02:09.43DrodoEmpireYou said people get scarred for life by killing face to face and you just said they do too by living with the knowledge they killed untold thousands with a bomb
02:09.56DazelYou don't typically kill as many people face-to-face as you do with a bomb.
02:10.05DrodoEmpireSo?
02:10.28DrodoEmpireThese are entire armies we're talking about, in a protracted war for Japan; More people'll gonna die
02:10.28Angrybirds_The Japanse, before the dropping of the bomb, were trying to surrender on -one- condition: that Emperor Hirohito remain on the throne. The Americans wanted an unconditional surrender, so they refused that offer of surrender several times.
02:10.56DrodoEmpireWars aren't one-on-one affairs, Dazel. :P
02:11.09TechnobliteratorI don't see why you're acting as if I'm arguing either way. I'm saying that it was cold murder that should never be repeated.
02:11.21DrodoEmpireOf course it shouldn't
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02:11.26Knight_AlienHello
02:11.29DrodoEmpireBut I'm saying it was the lesser evil, just barely
02:12.03AdmiralPandaNuclear no, but the same application of conventional explosives is always going to stay an option in my book
02:12.15DazelDrodoEmpire: I know, but we're talking about personal guilt here.  Are we not?
02:12.26HachimanI'd say it was an equal evil considering how many people, largely civilians, suffered for the action of the Japanese and American governments after having survived the fallout
02:12.46DrodoEmpireMaybe so Hachi,
02:12.53HachimanThe people that died, as unimaginably painful as they did, were the "lucky" ones
02:12.54DrodoEmpireIt did effect many generations
02:14.20HachimanA beachhead invasion of Japan and the subsequent gunning down of official Japanese military and likely conscripts drawn from the civilian populace would not have dealt an effect as longlasting as the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs did
02:15.14HachimanBut the bombs did shorten the war, but America accepting Japanese surrender with Hirohiko remaining on the throne and settling for not having to undergo cultural and societal reforms would have ended the war much, much faster
02:16.16TechnobliteratorIt also would mean we probably wouldn't enjoy the same Japanese products that we do today
02:16.33HachimanFor better or worse :p
02:18.21HachimanThen again whether it was nuclear genocide or American invasion, there still would have been at least a decade or two of American occupation on Japanese soil and thus the transmission of American media and culture to the Japanese
02:18.53HachimanSo we still probably would have ended up with stuff like weird game shows, anime, manga, video games, etc
02:19.46HachimanUnless somehow the USA agreed to withdrawing all American presence from Japan just after having conquered it from them were an invasion protocol undertaken
02:20.42TechnobliteratorI've never really got into anime or Pokemon :/
02:20.52TechnobliteratorBut I love FF and MGS so freaking much
02:21.35HachimanAnime and manga were inspired and expanded upon by American animation and illustration, such as comic books
02:21.46HachimanAs in, stuff like Batman, Superman, The Flash, etc
02:22.14HachimanAs well as popular culture figures like Disney and Mickey Mouse
02:23.56TechnobliteratorI need to learn Japanese
02:24.14TechnobliteratorHow the hell did Xho learn it?
02:24.44HachimanNot entirely sure
02:25.15HachimanI'd like to learn Japanese but I'd rather settle for something more practical like Spanish or Portugese
02:59.11HachimanDrodoEmpire: So if the Nazis did manage to clone genetically-augmented dinosaurs based upon the image of the genuine archaic ones, what purpose and usage on the battlefield do you think they could have been used for?
02:59.28DrodoEmpireUhh
02:59.29DrodoEmpireXD
02:59.35DrodoEmpireLemme think on that one...
02:59.47DrodoEmpireOkay, I think I got something
02:59.58DrodoEmpireWell beyond psychological weapons not much
03:00.11HachimanSo effectively terror weapons
03:00.26DrodoEmpireTank guns, and artillery would easily annihilate them; Even high-caliber battle rifles could hurt them badly
03:00.28DrodoEmpireYeah
03:00.40DrodoEmpireThey'd be good for that but have zero practical battlefield usage
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03:01.20DrodoEmpireHey
03:01.20GD12Hey all
03:01.25Tek0516Hello
03:02.30HachimanHai GD
03:03.06GD12yo
03:03.23HachimanWe were just discussing the usage of genetically-augmented dinosaurs cloned from the DNA of the genuine archaic models and how Nazi Germany could have implemented them to be useful
03:03.24DrodoEmpireMight be able to disrupt infantry too but, again, if they're packing anti-tank weapons or have a tank/halftrack/field gun then again they're good as done
03:04.14GD12hmm
03:04.30GD12depends on how you could direct the dinosaurs
03:04.37Tek0516I suppose if you armoured them it could have a better resistance.
03:04.49DrodoEmpireJust the fact that the natural armour of dinosaurs, assuming they even have it, wouldn't be enough
03:04.52HachimanI could see raptors being good for for infantry disruption, especially if utilizing flanking maneuvers, and infiltrating buildings to deal with fortified soldiers
03:05.03DrodoEmpireWell maybe
03:05.29DrodoEmpireBut the thing is that they're basically reall fast people; Its like giving a bunch of Usain Bolt clones swords and telling them to attack
03:05.32GD12Raptors would be good, I don't see any dinosaurs just tanking it
03:05.36DrodoEmpireA machine gun would annihilate them
03:05.40Hachimanhur
03:05.41GD12Really fast people w/ claws
03:06.08GD12i think raptors would be good fo forest ambushes
03:06.12DrodoEmpireBut yeah, in a perfectly-timed, perfectly place surprise attack they could rout infantry
03:06.15GD12and also with ww2 tech, night attack
03:06.27DrodoEmpireBut if the infantry where in a building or trench? Forget it
03:06.30DrodoEmpire*placed
03:06.42Tek0516WW2 tech, definitely a more effective impact
03:06.43DrodoEmpireNight attacks or forest ambushes yeah
03:07.07GD12Anything that a fast person with a machete could be effective in
03:07.14DrodoEmpireBut anywhere else no. :P They're like cavalry really
03:07.35DrodoEmpireThey need to be used in the perfect place and situation to be effective in an age like that
03:07.35GD12not as useful because they wouldn't be able to report
03:07.44GD12im assuming that dinosaurs dont have that much intelligence here
03:07.47DrodoEmpire^
03:07.53GD12in that they can't point out locations and call in artillery
03:07.54DrodoEmpireProbably wouldn't be able to change that much
03:08.27HachimanI imagine they'd be as intelligent as say trained military dogs, like German Shephards, if a bit more capable
03:08.40DrodoEmpireRight
03:09.18HachimanDinosaurs aren't stupid creatures after all, they survived for a long, long time
03:09.30DrodoEmpireSo yeah, basically really good in forest ambushes or ambushes against infantry or horse cavalry (if you're in Poland :P), but basically anywhere else they'd be annihilated
03:09.37GD12Yeah
03:09.50GD12though shock value could have some effect in early offensives
03:10.04DrodoEmpire^
03:10.04GD12but shock value loses a lot of value as times goes on
03:10.20Hachimaninb4 strapping anti-infantry gun on a triceratops hur
03:10.39GD12put a heavy artillery gun on one of those fuckmassive dinosaurs
03:10.57GD12like those which are as heavy as tiger tanks
03:11.32GD12said disonaur is called Dreadnoughtus - 65 tons heavy and like 85 feet long
03:11.35HachimanStrap time bombs onto smaller dinosaurs so they can rush under mobile units such as tanks and asplode from beneath
03:11.47GD12best idea
03:11.53GD12you use giant dinosaurs as carriers
03:11.58GD12which ;launch pterodactyles
03:12.04Hachimanhur
03:12.04GD12which drop raptors
03:12.46HachimanI remember that Soviet soldiers used to do that with dogs
03:13.18GD12dropping them from pterodactls?
03:13.19HachimanThey'd have trained them to dive underneath tanks with time grenades and such and allow themselves to blow up
03:13.24GD12or blowing themselves up under tanks
03:13.26GD12hur
03:15.01GD12anyway gtg got to write report
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07:07.46Tek0516Morning/Night Wormy.
07:19.08Early_Wormyis a zombie
07:22.44Early_WormyFucking rude adverts
07:22.58Early_Wormy2What are you going to do this morning?  Grope a stranger"
07:23.03Early_WormyNice way to make me feel
07:34.36Tek0516Oh god this made me laugh so hard I was in tears and had organs hurting. XD
07:35.02Tek0516https://imgur.com/gallery/AVEnd7Y
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07:36.51Tek0516Hello
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07:49.38Liquid_InkHello
07:50.26Liquid_InkI must say, making up a story as you go along is much better than massively detailed plans.
07:51.30Liquid_InkI love how my little handwave to get a character out of a situation has now become a major plot point.
08:28.20ImpyDroid2http://www.danwymanbooks.com/irish.jpg Godwhat
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09:30.54Liquid_InkAlso, the incest within the royal family has evolved from merely mocking the Habsburgs to being a serious plot point.
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10:31.36JepardiHi
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11:14.51HachiDroidHai
11:16.13HachiDroidI have stuff to do today but I don't want to get outta bed
11:17.00Liquid_Ink"I have stuff to do today but I don't want to get outta bed."
11:17.12Liquid_InkHachi, you've just summed up human existence.
11:17.51HachiDroidAnd in my laziest moment
11:18.07HachiDroidI am become humanity
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11:23.35HachiDroidHai Imp
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11:26.17AdmiralPandaHai HachiDroid
11:26.54HachiDroidPanda~ <3
11:30.00AdmiralPandaHachi-chaaaan~
11:30.20AdmiralPandaSo I've been studying smithing techniques to properly roleplay dwarf
11:31.25HachiDroidYou'll also need to study b
11:31.30HachiDroidwhoops
11:31.59HachiDroidvarying kinds of ales
11:31.59Liquid_InkMaybe you should play a claustrophobic dwarf?
11:32.00AdmiralPandaAt least you didn't say "You'll also need to study d"
11:32.15AdmiralPandaWhy would I do that?
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11:32.25Liquid_InkFor the lolz?
11:32.25AdmiralPandaThat would be like the saddest dwarf in existence
11:33.02Liquid_InkANd a teetotaler
11:33.45HachiDroidPlay a drow with a fear of the dark
11:34.14AdmiralPandaThey have nightvision
11:35.27AdmiralPandaFor the record, I don't mind the odd character flaw here and there (god knows I love Indy's fear of snakes), but sometimes stupid for the sake of stupid is just, well, stupid
11:36.00AdmiralPandaEspecially since I started this whole discussion with the fact that I'm taking it seriously
11:37.41Liquid_InkI see.
11:38.10Liquid_InkWell maybe it's a serious attempt to subvert traditional dwarf roles?
11:38.42AdmiralPandaI don't really see how a claustrophobe who spent their entire childhood in a cave subverts traditional dwarf roles tbh
11:39.58HachiDroidI wanna see people make use of halflings in an interesting manner
11:40.18HachiDroidOr just make halflings interesting
11:41.20AdmiralPandaThat I agree with, I rarely see halflings as anything other than hobbit ripoffs
11:43.10AdmiralPandaI mean there's plenty to be said for playing straight to a theme, but there's a difference between playing straight and carbon-copying
11:49.51ImpyDroidWell WoW has fairly cool halflings (well, gnomes)
11:50.01ImpyDroidSilly, but cool
11:50.30AdmiralPandaWe're talking D&D
11:52.15ImpyDroidOh rite
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13:10.29HachimanHalflings a shit in most cases
13:10.30HachimanAnd hai
13:11.36HachimanIn most settings they're not warriors or philosophers or anything like that, they're just incompetent wannabe-combatants who are silly and are humored for their fart jokes or something
13:11.45HachimanOr just hobbit expies
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13:43.52HachimanHai Wormy
13:45.47dromhttp://imgur.com/gallery/hbCbq98
13:52.15Wormy_uniheh
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13:57.33HachimanHai
13:57.55OluapWorkerHi
14:06.19dromwelp it's completely piss-yellow outside
14:06.22dromlike it's hl2
14:09.06dromand it's becoming red-orange
14:09.25dromIt's, emission.                                  Now!
14:11.33dromIf you don't get the reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpdYowwjF8g
14:16.55dromAngrybirds_: Thanks for the feedback, I apperciate it very much.
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14:34.48ImperiosHi
14:35.27dromHai
14:50.24dromI always cringe everytime when Peter Griffin in Family Guy makes a "brilliant" idea.
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15:03.24TekDroidAlmost died of laughter from this one last night. imgur.com/gallery/AVEnd7Y
15:18.55dromTekDroid: http://satwcomic.com/art/besties.png
15:19.30TekDroidO.o
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15:28.01dromEy
15:29.15dromWhich is more correct? Planetary or Terrestrial?
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15:39.51TekDroidDrom: IIRC Terrestrial typically refers more to earth-like planets.
15:40.27TekDroidThough by proper definition Terrestrial refers only to Earth.
15:45.58dromHm. I should've ebolrated my question better. But what about warfare?
15:51.54Vincent20100Well, Planetary and Terrestrial could be a bit different
15:53.06Vincent20100Planetary could refer to sub-orbital, which would make Jet Fighter a Planetary Vehicle, while Terrestrial could rather refer to more "land propulsion" vehicle
15:53.39TekDroidFor warfare planetary would probably be best. There aren't likely many differences between conduct in general Planetary warfare and that conducted on terrestrial planets.
15:54.37TekDroidBut terrestrial is simply a sub-type of planets.
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16:00.11CatfaceHachiman Technobliterator: http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/140117716/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/winnie-the-poo-for-on-my-shop.gif
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16:20.23Wormy_uniseen it before somewhere
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16:47.44OfficerJackalHello!
16:47.58TekDroidHello!
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16:56.40dromAngrybirds_: http://vimeo.com/106226560
16:56.45XhoOnce again the IRC appears to be almost dead
17:01.08dromu w0t m8
17:01.09ImperiosI am doing calculus
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17:07.59TekDroidMy linear algebra professor pronounces "forumla" with an -er at the end.
17:09.12dromI pronounce most words ending with -or, with -er.
17:09.26dromUnless those are short ones.
17:09.38dromLike skor (shoes in swedish).
17:10.35dromAnd I have noticed that some teachers are twitchy when it comes to regional dialects.
17:35.58Hachiman_drom: "preparement" Think you mean preparation
17:36.39dromMeh. It will be gone soon away. But thanks for pointing that out.
17:37.13Xho"Preparement"
17:37.16XhoPeppermint
17:47.50TekDroidThis game just crashed right after I saved. XD
17:49.54Angrybirds_Drom: No problem!
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17:53.23Wormy_hi
17:53.30dromHi
17:53.47TekDroidHello
17:53.56Vincent20100HEy
18:00.22dromAngrybirds_: I just got started on thr
18:00.39dromfuck writing with 1 finger
18:00.47dromdoctrine...
18:01.32Angrybirds_I saw! I was a little confused by this:
18:01.35Angrybirds_"The army and it's assets require lot of resources to be maintained and to able to operate at it's efficiency peak. The assets actually doesn't require maintenance at all."
18:01.45Angrybirds_Those two sentences directly contradict one another.
18:02.21Vincent20100HEy Angry
18:02.24Vincent20100Nie to see you
18:02.28Angrybirds_Hey!
18:03.39Vincent20100Why is your name on the Wiki The Claden, but Angrybirds on IRC?
18:04.45AngrybirdsThe Clanden was the name of my first fiction, and the joke was that they were a fiction of exiled birds, aka Angry birds.
18:07.32Vincent20100And they were fighting The Green Pig EMpire?
18:08.22AngrybirdsI think you've got the wrong fiction. xD
18:14.07dromhue
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18:50.44Hachiman_Hai
18:50.55dromHai
18:51.19ImperiosiaH
18:51.48OluapWorkerrussian mann
18:53.15Imperiosvodka cyka putin blyat
18:53.37Xhosuka dam u
18:53.43Xhoy u cyrillic
18:53.46XhoI can't sepll
18:53.47Xhoc
18:55.10Hachiman_ɐʞʎɔ
18:55.47OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1416840409164.webm there's a gltich in the matrix
18:55.50OluapWorkerglitch even
18:56.50ImperiosThat's Soviet superscience
18:57.13XhoBack to the Union, Part 2
18:57.46OluapWorkerYou see Ivan, when you teleport car like me, you never worry of honking for you in all places at once
18:57.55dromImperios: You should've put khuj too: хуй
18:58.20ImperiosТо, что сосет дром
18:58.20ImperiosDere
18:59.17OluapWorkerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/859/877/162.jpg
18:59.42Hachiman_Nu manages to trick Hachi
18:59.47dromshit, you said my name in cyrillic.
19:00.06XhoNu - that's rite           blow my cannon hard
19:00.42Hachiman_Hachi - fuk                      â™¥â™¥â™¥â™¥â™¥
19:00.48OluapWorkerew
19:01.21Wormy_I need a nap
19:01.32Hachiman_olol
19:01.33OluapWorkerhttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/856/443/e2e.jpg still the best
19:01.50Hachiman_ohgod
19:02.02dromImperios: I have got zero russian education. My sassy bot says: "What sucks core"
19:02.21Hachiman_https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10373975_692843664102272_6842163966825500514_n.jpg?oh=3105f21ae8f59610c98535264ef2fbd4&oe=55188B91&__gda__=1423027277_67c73a77f1eaee2f1a5887f6fc963aa1
19:02.46dromargh my lungs
19:03.04XhoHachiman_: Kicathian Parenting
19:03.04OluapWorkerHachiman_: olol
19:03.34OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/v/1416840608081.webm Civilization combat
19:04.01Xho"I'm gonna go all 24th Century on his ass"
19:04.38ImperiosFake, no Gandhi
19:04.47XhoGandhi is the air
19:04.47OluapWorkerhur
19:04.55XhoThe course of all in this dimension
19:05.01XhoHe shalt destroyeth you all
19:06.04OluapWorkerhttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/866/606/ae2.png this is an actual fact
19:06.33Hachiman_Geezush
19:06.49Xho120% tax
19:06.57dromthey surely have got nice economy advisors
19:07.00XhoWouldn't that just be the normal price + 20% on top
19:07.05OluapWorkerYes
19:07.13Hachiman_"Ordem Progresso"
19:07.14Hachiman_Certainly looks like progresso to me
19:07.20XhoRight, I thought it was double the normal price + 20%
19:07.33OluapWorkerActually i'm not sure
19:07.35TekDroidXD By halfway through my math tutorial there were only me and a friend left, everyone else already bailed.
19:07.36OluapWorkerThat might be it
19:07.56OluapWorkerWhat matters is taht videogames are expensive as balls over here and it's a sin
19:08.36Hachiman_secondworld.jpg
19:08.38OluapWorkerActually i'm fairly sure Brazil has the highest taxes in general in all countries in the world
19:08.55OluapWorkerWe're either number one or two
19:09.04dromrussia masterrace
19:09.17ImperiosYa games are very cheap here
19:09.27Hachiman_Well Brazil still has rampant issues involving poverty and ghettos
19:09.28dromAlmost all of the games there are 70% less the european price.
19:09.34Hachiman_I'm just assuming second world from that
19:09.48OluapWorkerBrazil is a rampant issue
19:09.59Hachiman_hur
19:10.13OluapWorkerNo wonder there's so many russians everywhere
19:10.33dromImperios: I'm crying that I'm not a/in russia(n).
19:10.34OluapWorkerI was looking at the steam discussions for the game Overlord yesterday and 7/10 subjects were in russian
19:10.52Hachiman_olol
19:11.37dromNot to mention Stalker.
19:11.50dromAnd postal.
19:12.11Hachiman_Overlord, the game where one has to control gopnik cykas in order to overthrow the capitalist states
19:12.23OluapWorkerolol
19:12.26XhoOverlord: Project Cyka
19:12.34OluapWorkerTruly evil
19:12.43dromy no tsar?
19:13.01Xhocuz tsar twas weak and crushed under marxist boot
19:13.03OluapWorkerI've been playing as Putin all along
19:13.29XhoGame Manual -> Actually just Das Kapital
19:13.36Hachiman_olol
19:13.36OluapWorkerWell I'll let you know last time I played he got burned to death by a dwarf with a flamethrower
19:14.04Hachiman_Funny cuz dwarves in Overlord are greedy money-hoarders
19:14.08dromXho: I actually meant this programme. http://i.imgur.com/mKMRbR0.png?1
19:14.22Xholel
19:14.45XhoI want a Tsar Dashcam for my car
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19:15.49dromXho: You can get one for free if you get a Gaz car
19:16.17Xho2soviet4me
19:17.06Imperiosdrom: >implying it won't break in a day
19:17.55dromtsar tank is surely the weirest vehicle ever. http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/other/tsar_szaloga1.jpg
19:18.43XhoPretty damn big thouh
19:18.45Xhothough
19:19.07dromand impartical
19:19.57XhoAll you need now is the Tsar Penis Extension and we've conquered the ideals of soviet masculinity
19:20.16Hachiman_>Soviet masculinity          >Motherland
19:20.24Xhogit shrekd
19:20.40Hachiman_cyka'd
19:21.13Xhou
19:22.17TekDroid>.< My roommate keeps blasting the thermostat.
19:22.39Hachiman_Boil him alive and ask if he's warm enough yet
19:23.08TekDroidHachiman_: That requires the thermostat to not already be near max.
19:24.21ImperiosHachiman: We actually alternate between using the words "Fatherland" and "Motherland"
19:26.45Hachiman_I've always assumed Fatherland = Germany
19:27.04Hachiman_Plus Russians have sexier women hur
19:28.07dromGoddamn immigrants!
19:32.26dromImperios Angrybirds: http://imgur.com/gallery/JMG6FM4/comment/317757012
19:35.46TekDroidAre we still sure those are M&Ms? :P
19:36.10Angrybirdsdrom: nice xD
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19:50.15GhelaeHello.
19:58.47dromHello
20:01.17dromFound hachi's new favorite food. https://38.media.tumblr.com/a606ff2272fc21ff2fcf80ad323ba2f6/tumblr_nejya2Q22H1qjnhqgo1_1280.jpg
20:04.19dromXho: http://imgur.com/gallery/quxPR
20:09.22dromOkay. Let's have something actually funny. http://imgur.com/gallery/pkPv9
20:11.48ImperiosHachiman_: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t817441/ Modern Neo-Nazis
20:12.24Imperios>"Dude, i really like MLP, Rainbow Dash (that pony on the pick), is my 2° favorite pony, she's beauty isn't it? i love her tomboy way of life, it makes me less white?"
20:12.42XhoIt is a whopping 2 C outside
20:12.43XhoLovely
20:12.50XhoThen again it was -3 outside this morning
20:14.06dromHm. 6 here, expecting it to go lower this night.
20:14.24dromIt's going to be around 2-3 celsius the whole next day
20:14.25GhelaeYeah. It's winter now.
20:14.26dromlovely
20:15.31dromAnd then comes the first sub zero day for long time: -1 to 0 on the second next day.
20:15.41ImperiosIt was -10 C here recently
20:15.49dromMothafacking snow
20:18.08Xho#russia
20:26.04dromGhelae: Have you seen the Interstellar?
20:26.11GhelaeNo.
20:26.58dromWho else than me and Wormy who have seen Interstellar?
20:27.25TekDroidI want to, just haven't had a chance
20:31.21dromXho: http://imgur.com/gallery/fe7YCFt
20:34.46TekDroidO.o
20:36.07XhoMy god what
20:37.20Hachiman_What the FUCK
20:37.33Hachiman_i actually yelled that as I saw it hur
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20:51.52MonetHello
20:57.07dromHello!
20:58.34XhoFYI I got the Universe Sandbox 2 Alpha yesterday
20:58.59MonetI heard
21:00.22dromXho: Now go and make swizz cheese planets
21:00.33XhoIf you mean by that 'destroy earth' then okay
21:01.48MonetHappy Xho time.
21:02.03dromHappy Xho-day
21:07.13XhoThere's a simulation that collides the moon with Earth at 100 km/s
21:08.11XhoIt's rocketed the surface temperature of Earth at over 2000 C
21:08.28MonetToasty
21:08.47dromYeah toast!
21:09.57XhoOne thing I must know
21:10.07XhoWould Earth colliding with Neptune actually cause it to burn up
21:10.47dromI suppose so. Even if it's a cold planet.
21:10.53dromGo ahead and test that.
21:11.27Hachiman_Wouldn't that turn it into a star?
21:11.34XhoIf it was dense and hot enough
21:11.40XhoAnd had enough hydrogen
21:11.50MonetHachiman_: Its too small
21:11.52dromBut it would heat up if it actually have an atmosphere. Due to the air resistance becoming too much.
21:12.14XhoJust had Ceres graze Earth
21:12.21XhoJust took out all of North Africa
21:12.48XhoAnd the fragments of Ceres just pretty much killed everything else
21:14.54Hachiman_https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/15909_355625314598170_1192227947566999454_n.jpg?oh=14f888fcaf57171297c74b39f010754c&oe=550B2C66&__gda__=1423959323_a8e82703f8ee33bd5aeb64e6be10d7af
21:14.56dromGotta go and read a college education magazine.
21:19.40XhoAnd I just collided Mars with Earth
21:19.41Xhosuch boom
21:20.54Hachiman_wow
21:21.29MonetIs only Earth left or were they both obliterated?
21:21.43XhoMars was annihilated
21:21.52MonetThought so.
21:22.00XhoMost of it is just orbiting Earth and smashing into it
21:22.36MonetI think the protoplanet Theia was about the size of Mars and the only bit we have left of it formed the Moon.
21:23.25Xhogeezush
21:23.41XhoEarth currently looks like the result of a Planet Buster
21:24.26XhoRoughly 600 or so fragments orbiting it ow
21:24.28Xhonow
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21:30.53DrodoEmpireHey, everyone.
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21:31.23Wormy_I slept longer than intended
21:32.32Hachiman_Wormy it's 2016 now what the fuck were you doing
21:33.11Wormy_I didn't have my evening tea
21:34.28Wormy_On the plus side now they can put me in suspended hibernation.
21:34.59Hachiman_Suspended animation projects were cancelled in 2015 Wormy
21:35.04Hachiman_You missed out by a year
21:36.05Wormy_Then I'll have to build my own spaceship
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22:25.12Wormy_I think there is something wrong with my vision
22:25.34XhoGet off the computer then if you're experiencing vision issues
22:25.34Liquid_InkOh?
22:25.45Wormy_My left eye twitches constantly and in both I keep seeing floating shapes
22:25.49Liquid_InkYeah, that's probably a good idea.
22:25.57Liquid_InkAs in getting off the computer.
22:25.58Wormy_I'm due an eye test anyway
22:26.16Wormy_I can't, much of my work is on the computer
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22:26.33Wormy_It might be computer vision strain
22:26.37Wormy_though
22:26.58Wormy_Work has been intense and for three days a week I'm in a basement room with no windows
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22:28.25Liquid_InkThat may be detrimental.
22:29.56Wormy_On the other hand, I wonder if its migraine
22:30.09Wormy_I see these shapes even with eyes shut
22:30.27Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma
22:30.34Wormy_Its like that but not very dramatic
22:31.57Wormy_And then I read about retinal detatchment and have spooked myself
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23:34.50Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Red_Harmony#Sisterly_Love Succubus incest lesbian stuff, except it's SFW hur
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23:38.21XhoKalarah - succubi              strange people
23:38.22DrodoEmpireHey
23:38.56DrodoEmpireHachi: I would take a look but I'm busy modding. :P I have read the first paragraph or so though and I must say its very well written
23:39.43Hachiman_The entire story's a collaboration between me and Oluap that's set in the aftermath of the War of Vampires
23:39.51Hachiman_It's a short story really
23:45.50DrodoEmpireAh
23:50.18Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Imperator_Kalarah#Personality Updated this slightly

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