IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141108

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00:40.45Tek0516Hello
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00:44.37Tek0516Hello
00:45.20HachimanI like how Zilla thinks that just because my text gets logged means that I care about the future reciprocations of what I say
00:46.03Hachiman"Having it recorded makes it where people have to play nice or keep their mouths shut." Implying that I, or anybody else, is obligated to 'play nice'
00:58.33Wormy_Yes
01:03.04*** join/#sporewiki Patriot868 (44e35645@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.227.86.69)
01:03.13Wormy_Its not a case of having to, I think its more of a courtesy
01:04.36Wormy_Like, I'd rather the wiki be put first above all else, and things decided there on their merits, and disruption kept on IRC from bad behaviour kept to the minimum.  If we did in my view, the wiki would be more disciplined like it used to be
01:04.54Wormy_But its up to community
01:06.06Tek0516Hello Patriot
01:06.22Wormy_But I still think it would be far more free to have the logs open to least registered users
01:07.07Wormy_Free because its open and provides a window for criticism, and it gives users the choice to think whether what they say will have reciprocations.
01:08.06Wormy_Most of the time on IRC is pretty good or quiet anyway
01:08.14Patriot868Its usaully dead quiet on here
01:08.31Tek0516Today was eventful. >.<
01:08.55Patriot868What happend now?
01:09.11Tek0516The infobot removal thing.
01:09.40Patriot868Oh, that. Too much debate. Just leave it the way it is.
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01:09.44Wormy_It wasn't a particularly hurtful controversy though.
01:09.47DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
01:09.50DrodoEmpireBack
01:09.54Wormy_hi
01:09.57Tek0516Hey Drodo
01:09.57DrodoEmpireHuh, not many people on
01:09.59DrodoEmpireHey
01:10.19DrodoEmpireWhat's being discussed?
01:10.26Patriot868Nothing really
01:10.39DrodoEmpireAh
01:10.47Patriot868The infobot thing, though in all honesty its not as bad as the debates in august over GC
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01:11.00DrodoEmpireHey Opel
01:11.01DrodoEmpire:D
01:11.10OpelSpeedsterHia, I responded to your transmission :)
01:11.14DrodoEmpireI'm Operation Marines, from the message wall
01:11.16DrodoEmpireAh, great!
01:11.20DrodoEmpireI'll take a look
01:12.36Wormy_Monet, Hachiman: So i just learned Rutland was a county (I thought it was just a lake).  Its like my map of England has just expanded by a blip.  Do you ever get that feeling when you learn of a new place?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutland
01:15.00DrodoEmpireAlright, I'll respond
01:17.03DrodoEmpireAlso, would you want to do a collaberative fiction sometime Opel? This sort of tech exchange could be a good premise for one
01:17.18Tek0516OpelSpeedster: So you own the Amphibibot Collective, right?
01:17.21OpelSpeedsterHm, that depends. How exactly would that work out?
01:17.24OpelSpeedsterTek0516: Yeah
01:18.06DrodoEmpireWell we'd need to discuss the premise with eachother, refine it, work out characters that'd be used for it, RP, that sort of thing
01:18.14DrodoEmpireDepends on what we want to do with it
01:19.47OpelSpeedsterHm, an idea that could work is that the APC tries to get the approval of the Coalition to colonize planets of the two neighbouring star systems using the Drodo's tech.
01:20.02OpelSpeedsterWithout letting the population know, of course
01:20.23OpelSpeedsterThey're already destructive enough with their tech, let alone one that they haven't ever heard of.
01:21.07DrodoEmpireI see
01:22.37Wormy_I love how snob appears in the URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKqP-SnobQA
01:22.43Wormy_*url
01:22.44DrodoEmpirehur
01:23.04DrodoEmpireThough that doesn't really involve the Drodo too much considering its an internal matter
01:23.16OpelSpeedsterHm, yeah.
01:23.21DrodoEmpirePerhaps that could be an event that happens soon after though
01:23.39OpelSpeedsterYup, that could work.
01:23.55DrodoEmpireWould the Drodo be asked for military assistance or something?
01:24.33Tek0516I just want to confirm something then. So after the Lightning War the Farengeto Trade Coalition becomes the primary economic body in Katar. There's minimal political obligation with Trade Council membership, but lots of economic and technological benefits. Considering they're right next door to Farengeto, would you like to add the Amphibibots to it?
01:24.45DrodoEmpireI know you mentioned one group that has a distrust of aliens; perhaps they try and have the Drodo evicted through acts of violence or propaganda?
01:24.57OpelSpeedsterTek0516: Sure.
01:25.00DrodoEmpireLike killing a few Drodo workers or soldiers or something
01:25.11OpelSpeedsterDrodoEmpire: Yeah, that might do it. Although they aren't rabid enough to kill.
01:25.13DrodoEmpireWhich could be a flashpoint
01:25.18DrodoEmpireRight
01:25.32OpelSpeedsterKerbals are destructive, not murderers :b
01:25.37Tek0516Alright, thanks for confirming. :)
01:26.41DrodoEmpireWell depending on how extreme the faction is they could be pushed to acts of terrorism. :P Most natural Humans also have a natural aversion to murdering one another, yet we still fight and kill
01:26.59DrodoEmpireThat said if they aren't violent to begin with, the faction in question then yeah you're right
01:27.43OpelSpeedsterThey would probably start mistreating the Drodo, and then it could go downhill from there, in which they proceed to treat them like invaders.
01:27.50DrodoEmpireRight
01:28.02DrodoEmpireSo a lot of pressure would be put on the government to break ties
01:28.14OpelSpeedsterPretty much.
01:28.45DrodoEmpireAlright, interesting already
01:28.51OpelSpeedsterAnd if what happened with the Union of Ceriman Republics tells you anything, the Nihacimian government would be forced to get the Drodo out of there.
01:29.29DrodoEmpireRigth
01:29.31DrodoEmpire*Right
01:29.47OpelSpeedsterFortunately for the Drodo, not many nations are exactly mistrustful of aliens; their neighbour Ussari is mostly neutral, and Cerima would welcome them with open arms.
01:30.41OpelSpeedsterWhat they would have to worry about the most is the simple fact that Kerbals are destructive.
01:30.55DrodoEmpireWhat do you mean?
01:31.07DrodoEmpireViolent? Reckless? Clumsy?
01:31.15OpelSpeedsterReckless and clumsy, mostly.
01:31.18DrodoEmpireAh
01:31.47OpelSpeedsterIf you tell one to carry a cactus on their back, they would willingly obey.
01:31.57DrodoEmpireSo accidents could potentially start controversies by accident
01:31.59DrodoEmpirelol
01:32.09DrodoEmpireAlso, maybe we should take this to a different channel?
01:32.13OpelSpeedsterPM
01:32.16DrodoEmpire#Spore ?
01:32.18DrodoEmpireAh, alright
01:33.53Wormy_Monet Snottingham http://www.buzzfeed.com/maycie/guy-smashes-head-into-coffee-table-video
01:35.20Wormy_hooray http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/nigel-farage-hit-by-an-egg-in-nottingham
01:36.39Wormy_Hm
01:36.52Wormy_I didn't know Vikings originally called it Snottingham
02:06.07DrodoEmpire"Brigadier Gerard's boast that the Hussards de Conflans (an actual regiment) could set a whole population running, the men away from them and the women towards them, may be taken as a fair representation of the esprit de corps of this class of cavalry (Hussars)."
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02:18.58Patriot868Can anyone explain to me what Riftmatter is? Its mentioned in the page about the intergalactic rifts, but I don't know what it does?
02:19.11Patriot868http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Intergalactic_Rifts This is the article
02:19.36DrodoEmpirebumps Wormy_'s arm
02:19.51DrodoEmpirePatriot's got a sciency questio
02:19.56DrodoEmpire*question
02:24.51DrodoEmpire~wake Wormy_
02:24.51infobotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on Wormy_ and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
02:29.27Tek0516goes off on some technobabble rant about it making FTL travel between galaxies faster
02:31.03Patriot868Ok, thats really all I wanted to know, because thats the only place I have seen it mentioned.
02:31.28Tek0516Actually I have no idea. XD
02:31.34Wormy_I'm not sure
02:31.49Wormy_Its old fiction that looks defunct
02:32.02Tek0516Basically consider that whole thing a relic of old wiki science
02:32.35Wormy_Tbh I do remember a big discussion about it, we concluded its both unlikely physically and would be economically unviable.
02:33.02Tek0516I find that speed of light part very odd.
02:33.21Wormy_Speaking of science, I'm making 3D map of this.  I love watching Maya render each point http://www.esa.int/var/esa/storage/images/esa_multimedia/images/2013/03/planck_cmb/12583930-4-eng-GB/Planck_CMB.jpg
02:33.28Wormy_Magical while listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijonEGao_0
02:40.46Tek0516How's the 3D milky way going?
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02:41.19GD12Hello
02:41.24GD12Hi Patriot868 long time no see!
02:41.25Tek0516Hello!
02:41.31Patriot868Hi GD
02:41.33Halopediaman3D milky way you say?
02:41.36Patriot868Nice to see you again
02:42.14GD12Aye, I won't be very active fictionwise till around mid december
02:42.21GD12So i'm an IRC phantom
02:42.37GD12Cal Engineering sadly takes up time
02:43.10Patriot868Thats ok, I just recently got back to writing. I had a two month dry spell
02:43.42GD12ahh i see
02:43.47HalopediamanThat's defeatist talk GD12. Simply remove time for trivial things like sleeping.
02:43.47Tek0516I somehow manage fiction with first year Engineering. XD
02:43.57DrodoEmpirelul
02:45.14Tek0516Currently I'm working on a map fir my human fiction.
02:45.24GD12I've tried
02:45.35DrodoEmpireWell actually I believe I read somewhere that sleeping isn't a biological "must-have" in the same way that breathing or eating is; It just so happens that it helps ward off hallucinations, irritability, exhaustion, insanity, and death. :P
02:45.56DrodoEmpireSo you can not sleep for long periods of time; It just isn't healthy
02:46.31DrodoEmpireAs in, not sleep under your own volition without stuff like insomnia
02:47.21GD12Also i've noticed that my ability to do deep thought is decreased dramatically when I stay up for long periods of time
02:47.49GD12is Captain Obvious
02:48.05GD12Tek0516 : You need to procrastinate more :)
02:48.32DrodoEmpireIt increases for me, actually; I tend to not "filter" my thoughts as much when I'm very tired and my mind wanders a lot
02:48.40Tek0516I've already written multiple labs the day of. I'm the king of procrastination. XD
02:48.45DrodoEmpireThat said my deep thoughts aren't exactly brilliant ones. XD
02:49.23GD12My thoughts in the shower can be quite profound
02:49.38DrodoEmpireAh
02:49.41Tek0516I haven't had a good sleep since DST kicked in. Maybe that's why I've been able to do fiction this week. XD
02:49.46DrodoEmpireI've heard that happens to a lot of people. :P
02:49.49GD12Whats DST?
02:49.50DrodoEmpireShower-ideas that is
02:49.55GD12oh
02:49.58GD12daylight saving time
02:51.11Tek0516It's thrown off my cycles for eating amd sleeping horriblym
02:51.18GD12hurdur
02:51.57GD12I imagine my stress levels will only increase towards PhD application time next December
02:52.13GD12I'll be a thermonuclear nervous breakdown waiting to happen
02:52.15GD12*xplode
02:54.41Wormy_Tek0516, Halopediaman:  I've got the 3D galaxy working, although I'd like to give it some aesthetic tweaks hopefully by tomorrow evening.
02:54.48Wormy_hi
02:54.53Tek0516Ah
02:55.21Wormy_That and, today didn't seem appropriate to create a forum about it
02:55.24HalopediamanNeat
02:55.36GD12I see there is some kind of discussion about the logs?
02:55.41GD12is reading through it
02:56.26Wormy_Halopedia:  I'm making it because I don't think the proportions are realistically presented on 2D maps
02:56.44Wormy_For empire territory that is.
02:57.10Wormy_And it could make for some nice perspective angles
02:57.23Wormy_and show smaller empires, etc.
02:58.02Wormy_I tell you what, I'll upload my progress so far
03:00.54HalopediamanDid I just persuade you to show off your progress in a conversation that didn't happen? Cause I mean, I was totally thinking about asking.
03:01.01HalopediamanI just didn't know I had that kind of power.
03:02.45HalopediamanThe wiki has a whole subsection for maps? My lord in heavens this is my new favorite wiki
03:03.32DrodoEmpirethrows a big roman-style military parade for Halopediaman, complete with the slave whispering in his ear "Remember; You are only human."
03:05.30HalopediamanHumanity is simply a stepping stone to greater things. Ascendance is key to true success.
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03:08.31Knight_AlienHi.
03:08.51DrodoEmpirehi
03:09.51HalopediamanHowdy-ho.
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03:38.18MonetWell, in Beyond Earth I jsut had my first bug war
03:38.31DrodoEmpireOh?
03:38.38Knight_Alienoh , how did it go?
03:38.48MonetPretty well, lost a few dudes.
03:38.52MonetThese are no barbarians
03:39.04Knight_AlienTrue
03:39.39MonetMy goal was twofold: Make the nearby juingle safe(r) and recover a downed sattellite during the arrival phase
03:40.39MonetI recovered the satellite, clared out a good number of aliens, and they did establish a couple of nests where I first cleared them but I didn't mind too much
03:40.49MonetThe jungle is largely their turf
03:41.31MonetALso I pissed off the Indian and Sino-Japanese factions for shooting the bugs
03:43.03MonetThe thing is my colony landed with a bug-infested jungle of many kilometres only a few kilometres away.
03:43.21MonetI had to stick to the coasts  in that part of the world for most of the game
03:44.15MonetThose bugs got to eat hundreds of MG and asault rifle rounds. It was really satisfying.
03:45.28MonetBecause that jungle was bug-central
03:49.06MonetI did my best to avoid what Starship Troopers did
03:49.24MonetI supported my marines with machinegun fire and attack buggies.
03:49.47Knight_Alien10/10 Dead STarship Troopers Approve.
03:51.41HalopediamanArtillery, air, and mechanized support are for losers.
03:52.24MonetI didn't have artillery and tanks at the time and my tacjets didn't have the range
03:52.34HalopediamanMobile Infanty is the only answer, armed with shoulder launched nuclear weapons.
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04:18.28DrodoEmpireHello
04:18.31ElectricPlantyhey
04:19.04Knight_AlienHi
04:19.18ElectricPlantyi had to go to the doctor today
04:19.43Knight_AlienHow come?
04:19.59ElectricPlantyreally sore throught
04:20.18ElectricPlantyall i thought about after he told me i had a virus was
04:20.46ElectricPlantymilllions of stabbers and stabbellas in my throat
04:21.27Knight_AlienWhat virus is itthough.
04:21.37ElectricPlantyno idea
04:21.45ElectricPlantyits just some random one
04:21.54Knight_AlienHe didn't tell you what Virus you had.
04:22.08ElectricPlantywell not sure really
04:22.30ElectricPlantybut its likley going to clear up in a week
04:22.40Knight_AlienThat is good.
04:22.59ElectricPlantyhey
04:23.25ElectricPlantyknight_alien want to continue the finding of the electric planty
04:23.58Knight_AlienYeah but let me get somthing to eat real quick.
04:24.01ElectricPlantyk
04:32.45Knight_AlienRp1
04:33.06DrodoEmpireMay I watch?
04:33.08DrodoEmpire:P
04:33.12Knight_Alienyeah.
04:33.13DrodoEmpireI'm a little interested
04:33.16DrodoEmpireOkay
04:33.27DrodoEmpire#RP1
04:33.52DrodoEmpire^ my mistake
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04:48.37Tek0516Hello
04:50.02Vincent20100Hey!
04:50.26Knight_AlienHi
04:50.36DrodoEmpirehey
04:51.25Knight_Alien-__
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04:51.40Vincent20100Back¸<
04:51.47Knight_AlienyAY.
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06:04.44Knight_AlienJoin us on Rp1.
08:11.57Liquid_InkWell, I just watched a fantastic Chinese movie.
08:42.52HalopediamanGo on?
08:48.18Liquid_InkIt made heavy use of colour motifs
08:48.42Liquid_InkIt's told through flashbacks while an assassin and the emperor speak.
08:49.16Liquid_InkEach flashback has a different colour for clothing and lighting and background stuff
08:49.54Liquid_InkThe framing story of the assassin and the emperor is black.
08:50.41Liquid_InkBefore the assassin is revealed as an assassin, he explains how he killed three other assassins to the emperor. This largely a lie, and is red.
08:51.24Liquid_InkThe emperor realises it's a lie, and gives is own story on what he thinks really happened. This is blue.
08:51.56Liquid_InkAfter being revealed as an assassin, the assassin tells to the truth on what happened. This is white.
08:52.50Liquid_InkDuring the white-truth sequence, one of the characters has a flashback (in the flashback) of their first attempt to assassinate the emperor. This is green.
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12:14.40Liquid_InkHowdy
12:19.51dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/5QxYoev.jpg
12:20.03Xhogeezush
12:22.11dromXho: Aaaand- http://i.imgur.com/Kb1Qn23.jpg
12:22.21Xhomoar geezush
12:23.38dromXho: geezush (3x) http://i.imgur.com/aTjbJAH.jpg
12:24.04XhoNow that's just weird
12:38.24dromoh boi, found more
12:38.26dromhttp://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/81379587670284239/846C241519CB59CCA4F7F2B511C8F5A4DD5E1F4C/
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12:56.17XhoI should probably stop now, If I lose another 14 lbs I'll be clinically underweight
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14:18.39Technobliteratorhachi droid
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16:32.03Cyrannian|BusyCommented on the infobot discussion.
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16:33.17Wormy_Hi
16:33.32Cyrannian|BusyHi Wormypoo
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16:45.56Wormy_Black Screen of Death
16:46.06Wormy_right when I was making a post
16:49.39TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer: wat
16:49.51OluapPlayerI have something for your bot to do
16:50.14Technobliteratorsorry, I don't currently have it on my new computer :/
16:50.18TechnobliteratorI'll get it working ASAP
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16:59.17TekDroidHello
17:02.15Knight_AlienGood Joke (http://asset4.instanthumour.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/gordon-ramsey-at-his-best-part1.jpg)
17:02.40Wormy_Techno:  I was writing a post and you closed it
17:02.55TechnobliteratorThere is nothing to respond to
17:03.09Wormy_Right here it is http://pastie.org/private/jus66yhn1infkmq31gjcag
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17:05.55Wormy__Technobliterator:  I request you open the forum just so I can post my final word
17:06.05Wormy__Afterall, I was in the middle of writing it :P
17:06.27Wormy__And I would have had the chance to post if my computer hadn't crashed
17:06.45TechnobliteratorYou can open the forum again and post it
17:06.49Wormy__Thank you
17:06.52TechnobliteratorBut I do not feel there is anything to add
17:07.02Wormy__I will add also why I got to add someting
17:07.46Wormy__How do you re-open?#
17:08.47Wormy__I was just emphasising points really
17:08.49Technobliteratorreopened for you
17:09.46Wormy__Done
17:09.50Wormy__Once again thanks
17:12.51Technobliteratorbp
17:12.53Technobliteratornp*
17:13.18TechnobliteratorSpartian300
17:13.19TechnobliteratorI read rules, and tried to abide by them.
17:13.21Technobliteratorlol
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17:13.54Wormy__One thing I try to tell people with that mindset is that "it applies to everyone else"
17:14.41dromWormy__: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/529/540/164.jpg
17:14.48Wormy__Right, I must be away so I can finish work
17:14.58Wormy__and lol
17:16.12dromOh lord. http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/690/575/22a.jpg_large
17:21.07Vincent20100Hey!
17:22.08TekDroid" I read rules, and tried to abide by them." I am resisting the urge to scream.
17:23.35dromWormy_away: These are getting better and better. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/533/569/511.jpg
17:25.18TekDroidI remember seeing part of one show which IIRC had him at home with his family cooking. He was so calm. O.o
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17:26.32dromspartian, on tv?
17:27.05TekDroidO.O
17:29.39TechnobliteratorHe's obviously trolling
17:30.03TekDroidYeah.
17:31.10TekDroidNotice that the moment he had access it changed from "don't take my stuff" to nonsense and troll logic.
17:35.07Technobliteratorany windows 8 users here?
17:35.12TekDroidYeah.
17:35.12drom8.1
17:35.15Technobliteratorokay
17:35.27dromAnd I regret it
17:35.50Technobliteratorcan you tell me why it gives me this "Please connect to the internet and press OK to continue." option every single time I try to install a program despite me already being fucking connected to the internet?
17:36.40TekDroidNever seen that actually.
17:37.00dromMe neither
17:37.30Knight_AlienWindows 8 =regret. (Windows 7 is what I have)
17:38.01dromOn other topic: Remember the time when models' polygons were sharper than a knife?
17:38.49TekDroidLol
17:42.15TekDroidI actually never had too much issue with Windows 8. Though probably because 95% of what I do is through Steam or Chrome and never use the Windows 8 apps.
17:42.19dromLike Lara Croft's model evolution over time. http://www.gamechup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/lara-croft-evolution.jpg
17:44.10TekDroidHer torso could probably be used as a weapon on her older models.
17:44.23TekDroidBrb
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17:54.31Wormy_hi
17:54.34TekDroidHello
17:54.36TekDroidBack
17:54.40Wormy_Never seen that problem Jo
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18:19.27TekDroidHello
18:20.39OfficerJackalHey!
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18:53.29Tek0516~test
18:53.30infobothmm... test is not funny
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19:39.34HalopediamanSup nerds.
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19:40.27ImperiosHiya Mon
19:52.11Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FqnKB22pOC0 Is it just me, or are all games just the same graphic/design-wise nowadays?
19:52.29ImperiosThey're either brown and dark and gritty or looking like Pixar cartoons
19:52.49ImperiosI mean that Blizzard thing looks just like Wildstar or LoL
19:53.19Knight_AlienBlizzard: We just save dem Dollarz.
19:54.17Knight_AlienBlizzard then puts the rest of the money into World of Warcraft Cinematics so they can get more money to make more Cinematics.
19:54.50ImperiosDontchu dare talk shit of WoW cinematics
19:54.58ImperiosThese are actually good unlike that... thing
19:55.20Knight_AlienI dislike Wow , but their Cinematics are great.
19:56.04Knight_AlienI played a free trial and hated the gameplay overall then It was like Give dem Dollarz or your level 5 character gets pwned.
19:56.22ImperiosWoW is basically undead now
19:57.03ImperiosIt has lived far beyond the normal lifespan of a game while remaining profitable
19:57.40ImperiosWhich is not necessaril a good thing
19:57.43Knight_AlienIt is successful because I guess people like that stuff but I don't especially Pay to play games.
19:58.25ImperiosIt is successful because it *was* successful
19:58.27Knight_AlienAnd I love RPing games.
19:58.59ImperiosNow it's kinda living off his remaining population
20:00.07Knight_AlienYep.
20:00.43Knight_AlienBlizzard: give dem Dollars so we can recruit less people then what is leaving.
20:23.55Monetheh
20:29.31ImperiosMonet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o&list=PLCDCDFE90B30BD972
20:32.40Wormy_workingI really really really don't like AutoCad
20:37.07Monethttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=338865390 I quite like that suit
20:38.14Tek0516Indeed
20:39.26MonetThat's one thing I like with the leaders; The outfits orn by the leaders are determined by their affinity
20:40.02Tek0516I heard about that.
20:40.39Monethttp://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/544135419579145530/B0410F9F20F0BDD6ACBC2912E9D8DCEA728CDE35/ here's the Brazillian faction leader with an early Purity outfit.
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20:41.13MonetI think it's supposed to change further as he advances dow nthat route
20:41.40Vincent20100I'm not sure about what affinity I prefer
20:41.48Vincent20100Either Purity or Supremacy
20:42.11Tek0516I'm sure the non-purity ones look increasingly less baseline-human.
20:42.44MonetHmm
20:42.59dromSupremacy for military
20:43.22dromHarmory is for getting the native naturelife on your wide and wreck humans.
20:43.41dromPurity, is about, turn the planet to a new Earth
20:43.45dromWith force.
20:43.47MonetOne thing that draws me to Harmony is the organic architecture and biotechnology.
20:44.39Vincent20100But I'm not sure wich one I personally adhere to
20:44.59Vincent20100I love the idea of supremacy of force and future
20:45.01Tek0516Ideologically I'd be Supremacy
20:45.03MonetYou can have traits from all three if you want
20:45.22MonetSUpremacy is more about transhumanism than military might
20:45.23dromI'd be both Harmory and Supremacy.
20:45.25Vincent20100ANd purity, because Supremacy kinda afraid me that huamn become pure machines
20:46.02MonetAll three factions have a military angle, but that's because the planet starts as a death world
20:46.25Vincent20100What I don't like of purity is nthat their stuff look rather outdated
20:47.03dromIt's because they are human-centric and do everything to turn the new planet to a new Earth.
20:47.05MonetThat's kinda the point.
20:47.05Tek0516I think that's the point.
20:47.14Vincent20100What are Purity and Supremacy ultimate units?
20:47.30dromSupremacy was a giant robot?
20:47.38Vincent20100Harmony is the Xeno Titan
20:47.51MonetI think both Sup and Pure get giant robots.
20:50.08dromThe purity supreme is a giant hovership
20:50.34MonetOh yeah they get flying fortresses
20:51.06dromBasically a giant naval battleship, with the ability to pass over non-ocean terrain.
20:52.14dromThe supermacy is a 4-legged giant robot. Nuff said.
20:52.26MonetI rememebr seeing dev comments that they wanted all three affinities to be equally cool
20:52.55dromSounds more like Supreme Commander this.
20:53.07drom(war between giant mar machines)
20:56.30MonetI'm also intrigued by the factions
20:56.41Vincent20100Harmony also have a giant orbital jellyfish
20:56.51Vincent20100http://www.gamespot.com/articles/see-all-of-the-affinity-victories-and-ultimate-uni/1100-6423263/
20:57.24MonetThose two pics I showed were the leaders of Polystrailia (think a united Austrailia, NZ and Indonesia) and Brasillia (united SOuth America)
21:11.18Tek0516~test
21:11.18infobotit has been said that test is not funny
21:13.54HalopediamanWhy are we continously testing the bot?
21:14.35Tek0516All my IRC channels had gone quiet.
21:15.04HalopediamanFair enough.
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21:22.32MonetI like how the the beginning of the supremacy video sums up the first reaction to landing as "you know woat? F**k this shit"
21:24.50MonetO played all day but only as France
21:25.50MonetI played*
21:26.07HalopediamanWhat are we talking about Monet?
21:26.13dromCIV:BE
21:26.29dromThe new CIV5 crossover of the CIV:AC
21:26.31MonetMy verdict is its pretty good.
21:27.03MonetShame I can't see the threads of my own leader
21:27.22HalopediamanDang, I was hoping you'd say Vicky2.
21:27.35HalopediamanGood to hear BE isn't garbage though.
21:27.38HalopediamanI had my concerns.
21:28.33dromSo did I after seeing those reviews.
21:28.45MonetSince I played as France the whole time it wasn't until I went into background research that its leader is an old lady https://downloads.2kgames.com/civdotcom/img/blog/elodie_bg_header.jpg
21:29.33HalopediamanOld ladies can be great at running space faring fascist empires.
21:29.36HalopediamanEr, I mean
21:29.40HalopediamanEmpires
21:30.52MonetAlthough she's apparently not the oldest. There are rumours in-universe that the leader of Space India is over 200 years old yet she looks like this https://downloads.2kgames.com/civdotcom/img/blog/kavitha_profile_bg.jpg
21:31.10dromscience
21:31.33HalopediamanSpace India, heh
21:32.15MonetProbably because Everybody Loves Ghandi
21:32.34HalopediamanThe only real nation is Space America, the Greatest Best Country God has given Man on the Face of the Earth. And space too.
21:33.17MonetAmerica is a megacorp in BE
21:34.06HalopediamanAs it should be. :V
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21:36.04dromMakes me wonder, how many innocents did they have to murder to achieve that?
21:36.39MonetAccording to the backstory, they didn't.
21:36.55dromI see.
21:37.01MonetAmerica was in the shitter after "the great mistake" and the American Reclaimation Corporation agreed to help out
21:37.33Halopediaman"This faction is most probably comprised of India and Pakistan" - seems legit
21:38.02Monetby "help" I mean "ARC buys the US"
21:38.20MonetThe Indian faction I tihnk is more of a cult than a nation.
21:39.10MonetThe eight "sponsors" in the game are: An american megacorp, a new version of the EU, a united Africa, a united Brazil, united Oceania, a Pan-asian union, an Indian cult, a federation of Russian, Ugric and Slavic nations.
21:40.24ImpyDroid>Russian and Slavic
21:40.27Halopediaman"A united Brazil" he says.
21:40.27MonetAlthough presumably once you get to your planet you can probably tell your sponsor to promptly sod off because you're light years away fro mEarth.
21:40.29ImpyDroidIsn't that redundant
21:40.40ImpyDroidOr do you mean people living in Russia
21:40.41MonetImpyDroid: Probably
21:40.48MonetRussians and Eastern Uropeans
21:41.02ImpyDroidHeh
21:41.39dromAccording to the wiki. That empire is compensated by Russia and balkan (eurasia) nations. Including a few deseperate ones.
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21:41.55HalopediamanSounds like Putin gets back his Soviet states. :V
21:42.36MonetImpyDroid: http://downloads.2kgames.com/civdotcom/img/blog/2KGMKT_CIVBE_LEADER_PROFILE_IMAGE_SLAVIC_FEDERATION_Kozlov.jpg Meet General Vadim Kozlov.Greatest cosmonaut since Yuri Gagarin.
21:43.02HalopediamanAll cosmonauts are the greatest cosmonauts. Russia stronk
21:43.08ImpyDroidKozlov
21:43.15ImpyDroidBest surname ever hur
21:43.18dromAtleast he doesn't look like an average street gopnik.
21:43.37ImpyDroidKozel is Russian for "asshole" or "dick"
21:43.50Monetdrom: When his image was first released, everyone thought he was wearing a high-tech tracksuit
21:44.03dromlmao
21:44.30HalopediamanI just woke up my cat laughing.
21:44.49MonetThen Firaxis reveals that he wears this under the Supremacy affinity http://apolyton.net/w/images/9/93/CivBeyondEarthGeneralKozlovSupremacy.jpg
21:44.50dromWas it sleeping on your keyboard?
21:45.03dromThose eyes
21:45.59dromFraxis really make patches which would dent a change to those reviews more positively.
21:46.12ImpyDroidRusBot-900p
21:46.14ImpyDroid*9000
21:46.20ImpyDroidRuns on vodka
21:46.38MonetI'm gonna bust a gut!
21:46.38dromTsar-eyes too.
21:46.50dromThey shoot tsar-lasers.
21:47.17TekDroid>.< It's wet, cold and I have to take a bus to go shopping.
21:47.26HalopediamanNo Deckmaster, my bed.
21:47.29Halopediamander
21:47.34Halopediamandrom.
21:47.38MonetAlso everything he says is in Russian.
21:47.45HalopediamanAppologies, got too fast with my tab-enter.
21:47.48ImpyDroidGimme a sample
21:47.55dromMonet: Just like the other leaders?
21:47.56ImpyDroidI'll check its authenticity
21:48.06drom(excluding the superobvious loud amercians)
21:48.18ImpyDroidI saw the Russian leader in Civ5
21:48.29ImpyDroidShe talked like a slut hur
21:48.36TekDroidI believe Civ usually uses actual language clips, if a bit gratuitous or historical errorous.
21:48.38HalopediamanImpyDroid, you speak Russian?
21:48.48ImpyDroidHalopediaman: I *am* Russian
21:49.11MonetImpyDroid: http://youtu.be/Zxw_hrlrxwQ?t=1m50s
21:49.18dromgrabs popcorn*
21:49.19HalopediamanWell I mean, technically I'm Polish, but I don't speak it. :P
21:49.29dromAnd he's gonna invade your country soon!
21:49.40ImpyDroidSpeak Polish, you mean?
21:49.55dromshovels a handful of popcorn and shoves it into his own mouth*
21:50.04HalopediamanNeat though. I may consult you for things in the future if you would allow.
21:50.20Halopediamandrom, I'd like to see him try. :3
21:50.36TekDroidOne news station here was spewing some "Second Cold War" stuff today
21:50.42HalopediamanImpyDroid,more technically yes.
21:50.51ImpyDroidYou will scream Kurwa once I'm done with you
21:50.57HalopediamanYahoo news has an article titled "WW3" every other day.
21:50.58ImpyDroidHalopediaman: Are you Polish (as in, living in Poland) or just of Polish descent?
21:51.01dromHe's Ruski-Korean. He will beat you in every single gerne.
21:51.09HalopediamanPolish descent.
21:51.11MonetImpyDroid: Russian or Polish. I'm not sure
21:51.21ImpyDroidOh right
21:51.26HalopediamanPolish last name, made up Polish pride.
21:51.38ImpyDroidI thought we were talking about citizenship, not ancestry
21:51.40HalopediamanBut I'm American at the end of the day.
21:51.44ImpyDroidIn that case I am Korean
21:51.56dromI find it funny how the "Tak" also means as "no" in Indonesian.
21:52.04MonetFrom my experiences
21:52.23ImpyDroiddrom: That's why their flags are reversed
21:52.26HalopediamanDo you identify more with the Northern or Southern brand ImpyDroid? :P
21:52.30dromPoland's and Indonesia's flags even makes it funnier.
21:52.49ImpyDroidHalopediaman: Hard to tell
21:53.04TekDroidI'm Canadian with my family predominantly originating from England. (With part from Holland)
21:53.09dromAsians do look similar.
21:53.16dromsneaks away*
21:53.17HalopediamanI mean politically, not ethnically (pretty sure there isn't a difference).
21:53.31HalopediamanHow vanilla TekDroid.
21:53.38ImpyDroidMy ancrstors left Korea before the split and I have both North and South Korean blood
21:54.03dromAnd you have Soviet blood too.
21:54.09HalopediamanYour non-answer is noted.
21:54.13ImpyDroidI think I have slightly more North Korean ancestry considering it is adjacent with Russia
21:54.25ImpyDroidBut politically I prefer the South obviously hur
21:54.29MonetThe leader languages: ARC = English (with some gratuitous Spanish), Africa = English, Polystrailia = English, Slavic Fed = Russian/Polish, India = Indian, Brazilia = Spanish, Pan-Asian = Chinese
21:54.37HalopediamanI can already see the picture of lil' Kim on your wall.
21:55.06TekDroidHuh. ARC speaking some Spanish has implications there.
21:55.07ImpyDroidHalopediaman: arr hair our grorious reader
21:55.17HalopediamanBrazilia speaks Spanish? How horrifying.
21:55.24dromTekDroid: Illegal aliens.
21:55.25ImpyDroiddrom: Can't tell Scandinavians apart either >:3
21:55.32MonetTekDroid: The lady greeted me with "hola" before speaking ENglish
21:55.46ImpyDroidMonet: Hmmmm
21:55.48TekDroidIf Brazilia speaks Spanish you can draw further implications since Brazil is Portuguese.
21:55.55HalopediamanNorth American Union ftw.
21:55.59ImpyDroidIf Americans have a slightly Spanish flair
21:56.05HalopediamanExactly TekDroid.
21:56.17ImpyDroidWhy doesn't the European leader use Arabic or Turkish words?
21:56.28MonetAccording to her bio, ARC's CEO is half-Mexican of Texan origin.
21:56.31HalopediamanBahha
21:56.31TekDroidDefinitely implies continental union for the Americas.
21:56.47ImpyDroidActually wait do we even have Western Europe in that game
21:56.55MonetFranco-Iberia
21:56.58dromImpyDroid: Norwegians should have more curly hair. While finns are bald/stubble-heads.
21:57.17HalopediamanI like how Franco-Iberia somehow is supposed to be representative of the EU.
21:57.51dromDanish should look like stoners, or your average alcoholic.
21:57.55TekDroidWhat languages do Franco-Iberia use? The obvious two or three?
21:57.56HalopediamanI'm sure the Germanic states, British Isles, and Italia would have some strong words for that.
21:58.00ImpyDroid...Right
21:58.17ImpyDroidAny Arabic or African influences in the faction then?
21:58.18MonetHalopediaman: i Nthe bio, after the EU collapsed, Franco-Iberia formed shortly after and became a model for a new Europe, with disenfranchised nations like Italy and a good portion of Africa joining its utopian union.
21:58.28TekDroidInteresting
21:58.41MonetI read something about a restoration of ROme by Franco-Iberia
21:58.56TekDroidLol
21:59.02MonetAlthough as far as I can tell their leader is -definitely- French.
21:59.08Halopediamanavoids making a quip about Iberians being a model for new Europe
21:59.13TekDroidAB would like that. :P
21:59.36MonetWhether or not she speaks French or English idk because i've been exclusively playing Franco-Iberia
21:59.40TekDroidActually Franco-Iberian sounds more Napoleanic all things considered.
21:59.47HalopediamanSo what about Germany/British Isles/Scandinavia? They go with the Slavic Union?
22:00.12MonetHalopediaman: I think Scandinavia does, possibly Germany, I have no idea what BRitain did
22:00.49TekDroidIs it imploed that there are still other minor states?
22:00.49HalopediamanGiven the total lack of mention to the Isle states, I'm inclinded to believe the UK and Ireland were quarantined.
22:00.54Halopediamanimplied*
22:01.01ImpyDroidNobody likes Brits hur
22:01.02dromProbably.
22:01.11HalopediamanOh, you said implied TekDroid, though I was correct myself.
22:01.12TekDroidI agree, quarantined or maybe ded.
22:01.15dromImpyDroid: Neither me.
22:01.23Halopediamanthought*
22:01.28Halopediamancorrecting*
22:01.34HalopediamanLordy I'm off my ball.
22:01.41TekDroidLol
22:01.41dromBritain is just a nation full of selfish patriots who think they are the most relevant people in the world.
22:02.04TekDroidDrom: I thought that was America. :P
22:02.20HalopediamanAmerica ARE the most relevant people in the world.
22:02.20MonetApparently some groups who were not prosperous enough to launch their own missions cooperated with the sponsors, in-universe being the source of the station tile improvement that replaces the city state.
22:02.24dromTekDroid: Fuck them, but they are 2nd on my list.
22:02.37ImpyDroidHalopediaman: So, you're Polish-American? Where exactly do you live?
22:02.46ImpyDroidI meam what state
22:02.46HalopediamanMinnesota.
22:03.01HalopediamanClearly you want my address to come and fight me brah
22:03.22dromSo want I.
22:03.29ImpyDroidVodka to vodka man
22:03.31TekDroidPoland can't into space. :P
22:03.37ImpyDroidRussia made it first
22:03.42HalopediamanPfft
22:03.45dromPole-Americans breakt the balance.
22:03.53HalopediamanPoland doesn't need to into space, they have the PL-01
22:03.59HalopediamanFuture of mechanized warfare
22:04.30dromYou know that Russia is full of secret shenanigans?
22:04.51ImpyDroidYa
22:04.54dromThey probably have a "PL"-999XL in ready in a secret underbase.
22:05.00TekDroidLol
22:05.27dromI both dislike and love Russia.
22:05.55ImpyDroidThat's what everyone feels towards us
22:05.58TekDroidTheir mechanized warfare has already reached Terminators. They're Putin's guards. :P
22:06.07ImpyDroidWell except Muhrica
22:06.13MonetImpydroid: I thought he was Russian because when you fist meet Kozlov his first word is "soyuz", which according ot the text box next to him, is him addresisng you as "friend"
22:06.18dromWhat makes me to dislike them is their corrupted and zero-tolerance government.
22:06.34TekDroidYeah.
22:06.47HalopediamanImpyDroid, I had greater respect for Russia, until this Ukraine business. And not because they're doing it, all's fair in love and war
22:07.06ImpyDroidMonet: "Soyuz" means "alliance" or "union", so he was probably saying "soyuznik", which means "ally"
22:07.13dromBut what makes me to love them is their endurance, the "tsar" programme and their multimedia (dashcams doe).
22:07.14ImpyDroidHalopediaman: What is with it?
22:07.15HalopediamanJust disappointed that they're all up in there while telling the US to respect Syria's territorial integrety.
22:07.21Monetsoyuznik that was it I think
22:07.22ImpyDroidWell
22:07.38ImpyDroidFrom our point of view you are the same
22:07.45dromTheir language is interesting too.
22:07.50MonetIt definitely wasn't "comdrade"
22:07.56Monetcomrade*
22:07.59dromSo is Siberia too.
22:08.08dromkomdra
22:08.16HalopediamanOh, don't get me wrong ImpyDroid, we're terrible at the game.
22:08.16ImpyDroidComplaining when we expand our sphere of influence while expanding your own
22:08.33ImpyDroidThat pretty much describes both of us
22:08.39ImpyDroidSo we're the same are we not?
22:08.48HalopediamanI'd say so.
22:08.49ImpyDroiddrom: Zero-tolerance
22:09.00dromResistance
22:09.01HalopediamanIt's literally just competition. Great Powers do this.
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22:09.29dromHai
22:09.44HalopediamanMy issue is that I thought Russia was going to be different about it. Stop trying to claim the moral high ground like lolNATO and just go "because we can"
22:09.52TekDroidMeanwhile the rest of the world wishes it's stop already
22:10.06HalopediamanThe rest of the world can suck it up. :P
22:10.10ImpyDroidAgain, we do the same thing you do
22:10.25ImpyDroidAmerica claims moral high ground doesn't it?
22:10.33dromYes.
22:10.37HalopediamanThat's what I said.
22:10.44HalopediamanAnd it annoys me that we do.
22:10.47ImpyDroidBesides we are nowhere near as proactive
22:10.55ImpyDroidrite then
22:11.00ImpyDroidAnyway
22:11.05HalopediamanI'm a pretty cut and dry imperialist, morality is simply a useless formality.
22:11.33ImpyDroiddrom: >zero-tolerance You mean Milonov and his gay antics?
22:11.49dromImpyDroid: I meant the oppisition side too.
22:11.51HalopediamanI also want the US to roll tanks over the border and restore order in Mexico since apparently they are incapable. Then force them into NATO. :3
22:12.03dromI have never seen one. And they seem to ban certain sites too.
22:12.42dromReplacing them with their own national equiavialence.
22:12.50dromnrgh, how do i spell dat
22:13.12TekDroidWhat the... Google maps gave a location 2 blocks from the actual location. >. <
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22:13.14ImpyDroiddrom: We had Navalny
22:13.21TekDroidHello
22:13.23ImpyDroidI mean he was a retard but still
22:13.56ImpyDroidHe participated in Moscow mayor elections and stuff
22:14.39ImpyDroidSure he got arrested but considering he was essentially calling for an open rebellion after the elections were over I find it understandable
22:14.56ImpyDroidHalopediaman: Nah, only we are that blunt :P
22:15.19ImpyDroidAnd even then Navalny didn't recieve that much of a punishment
22:15.22HalopediamanI want that bluntness. :<
22:15.50HalopediamanBesides, rolling into Mexico would literally be a humanitarian mission, nobody could complain.
22:16.04dromImpyDroid: I see, it's kinda a dangerous country if you are politically active?
22:16.30ImpyDroidIf you are on large meetings and stuff, somewhat
22:16.48ImpyDroidInternet and stuff, not so much
22:16.57ImpyDroidAnd it depends on the place too
22:17.19dromIf it's a nationalist place, it's more dangerous, right?
22:17.23ImpyDroidLike you can get away with stuff like a pride parade in Saint-Petersburg but not in Moscow
22:17.33ImpyDroiddrom: What do you mean?
22:17.46Monethttp://www.civilization.com/en/news/civilization-beyond-earth-franco-iberias-elodie-shares-her-thoughts-on-culture/ this is the closest I can find to Élodie's (Franco-Iberian leader) dialogue.
22:17.54dromMake a non-serious joke about Russia.
22:17.55HalopediamanSo, ImpyDroid, before I roll off into another room to watch TV, did I offend you or would you be willing to teach me one day how to into Russian so I can better write a character?
22:18.15ImpyDroidHalopediaman: No it is okay
22:18.29ImpyDroidBut it will be of much hard for you
22:19.03HalopediamanWriting characters is hard, so it'll just be more of the same.
22:19.24ImpyDroiddrom: Nothing will happen
22:19.59HalopediamanAnyway, I'm off. Thank you people of Spore for the stimulating conversation.
22:20.10dromCool.
22:20.27TekDroidSupposed to make something for a potluck but literally all I have is a microwave. >.<
22:20.52ImpyDroiddrom: There is actually a series of pics on the Internet about Russian jingoism
22:21.03dromImpyDroid: how is the view on health care, tutition fees and housing?
22:22.09ImpyDroiddrom: The first two are public, courtesy of our Soviet past
22:22.18ImpyDroidHousing people have problems with
22:22.42dromSo, free health care and education?
22:22.50ImpyDroiddrom: Ya
22:23.03ImpyDroidThere are private schools but they are rare
22:23.14ImpyDroidPrivate clinics are commonplace though
22:24.16ImpyDroidGenerally non-serious matters are dealt by public healthcare while in order to deal with something serious you'll go to a private clinic
22:24.25ImpyDroid*something severe
22:24.46dromHm. It gives me the dilemma, to move to Cananda. Or Russia.
22:25.23ImpyDroiddrom: You reminded me of one Canadan woman I met in a cafe
22:25.23MobileJackalMove to Burkina Faso. XD
22:25.38ImpyDroidI asked where the queue ends
22:25.48ImpyDroidShe spent a minute or so apologising
22:25.55ImpyDroidI didn't understand why
22:26.03ImpyDroid*even
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22:39.13Monethttp://downloads.2kgames.com/civdotcom/img/blog/plurality_2.jpg DAMN
22:39.37MonetThis is a chart of how many exoplanets have been discovered annually
22:40.34TekDroidThere's a neat XKCD image showing exoplanets.
22:41.13TekDroidMonet: http://xkcd.com/1298/
22:41.14MonetWe went form discovering up to 100 planets/year to discovering over 800 this year
22:41.58MonetThat's a lot of planets
22:42.59dromI find it funny how that Earth is a punny little dot.
22:43.08dromif not a corn of dust
22:44.15TekDroidActually there's an XKCD for that too...
22:44.29MonetYeah but if it were any bigger we wouldn't exist
22:44.50TekDroidDrom: https://what-if.xkcd.com/83/
22:45.04MonetWHen the size and significance of the earth is shown ot be insignificant, I like ot look inward.
22:45.30MonetYes, the earth is a dot in the sky, but its a very important dot to mankind.
22:45.46TekDroidIt's Earth's small insignificant size that makes us possible
22:47.33MonetIts best for the mind not to dwell too much on how tiny the planet is compared to everything else.
22:48.16MonetThe sun may be huge, but all it is is a big ball of plasma that burps its own material now and again.
22:50.28TekDroidThe existentialism of Earth being tiny never really hit me.
22:51.28MonetHmm, based on promotional material, I feel rather certain the lingua-franca of Franco-Iberia is French
22:52.42TekDroidI think if I get Beyond Earth my usual faction would be Franco-Iberia, probably Supremacy affinity prefered.
22:53.20Liquid_InkBrazilia ftw!
22:53.56TekDroidActually Franco-Iberia or Brazilia probably.
22:53.56MonetI like Franco_iberia
22:54.35TekDroidBrazilia at least it part because of my human fic on the wiki. :P
22:55.10Liquid_InkDamn the lack of Turkey!
22:56.41TekDroidI always get a chuckle if a lingua-franca is French. :P
22:56.44MonetTurkish influence has tanked this past 100 years
22:56.52TekDroid^
22:57.18TekDroidOnce the Ottomans fell apart definitely.
22:57.19dromhttp://i.imgur.com/kUWRXIo.jpg
22:57.24dromThat second fact
22:57.43TekDroidLol, saw that gallery.
22:59.12dromIt pleased my patriotic glands. But however. To be honest... some of the facts are outdated.
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23:00.16TekDroidHello
23:00.23OfficerJackalHey!
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23:07.15MonetRight now I'm the only one who has Beyond Earth. So I'm exited for multiplayer
23:07.30Tek0516I definitely want to get it.
23:08.17Tek0516checks his bank account. >.>
23:08.45Tek0516Steam reviews for it are... wow.
23:09.16Tek0516Of the first page reviews only one are positive
23:09.38Tek0516Meanwhile Metacritic say 81/100. O.o
23:10.17MonetMost of the user reviews appear to bemoan that it's not holly-shit-completely-new-ntothing-we-have-seen-before
23:10.37Tek0516Yeah.
23:11.02Tek0516Meanwhile expectations were Alpha Centauri on the Civ V engine.
23:12.02Tek0516XD
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23:12.15Tek0516Hello
23:12.23Wormy_Rest in Pieces http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/05/ie6-funeral/
23:12.25Wormy_Hi
23:13.31Monet"While this review is negative, Civ:BE has the potential to receive a positive depending on the update and expansion love it gets. Even so, in its current state Civ:BE is definitely playable and somewhat enjoyable, it's just Alpha Centuri and the Civilization series have set the expectations of many players pretty high."
23:13.48MonetI think this is the main problem, yeah.
23:14.13MonetI kind-of like the customisation
23:15.26MonetThe ten cultural branches of Civ V have been replaced with four "virtue" schools, each one with fifteen perks.
23:16.06Tek0516People are also expecting the same level as Civ V after all those years of updates and DLC.
23:18.16MonetWell, if its a plus there are more positively-rated user reviews on Steam than negative ones
23:18.31Tek0516There areM
23:18.33Tek0516*?
23:19.10Monet2709 positive compared to 1792 negative
23:19.29Tek0516That's good.
23:22.33Monet"The Civilization community is toxic. Why? I honestly don't know. By any objective measure, the series is wildly popular. Yet the stunning negativity surrounding Civilization V ("when I first played Vanilla I threw up in my mouth") has transferred itself to Beyond Earth, and the results aren't pretty."
23:23.36Tek0516I may actually get Beyond Earth later.
23:25.12Tek0516I say leter because I gtg soon.
23:27.13MonetFair enough
23:27.40MonetI noticed AngryJoke hated it and TotalBiscuit called it a cautious purchase.
23:28.15MonetPerhaps another reason is the apparently "generic" feel people talk about
23:29.47MonetIn previous civ games, nations like France, Korea, China and the US were distinct, they had character. These factions in Beyond Earth are perhaps so flexible that they're intentionally designed ot be moulded around the players,
23:30.06MonetCreate *your* vision for mankind. It's only a theory though
23:30.12Tek0516Exactly.
23:30.33MonetPLus "sponsors" rather than "factions" or "nations"
23:31.50MonetOnce you are on an isolated planet light years form Earth, with no hope of seeing friends, family or former coworkers ever again...how much does said nation affect your society's development once you've landed?
23:32.36MonetNext to none really. They built your ship, hired your colonists and sent you supplies but that's all they really do from Earth.
23:33.12MonetAnd I think the flavour text for the three affinity victories make it sound like the decision may or may not have been made upon arrival
23:33.53Tek0516You have your birth culture but decades or centuries of isolation are what creates the new society
23:34.08MonetAnd centuries is what you'll get
23:34.58MonetI have two games going that have planetfall in the 2600s. But the game clock is close to 2900 for both. Though I have been playing for a few hundred turns
23:36.08Tek0516Three centuries is enough to be unrecognizable.
23:36.42Tek0516And even 2014-2600 should be massive differences.
23:37.23MonetThe game is never really clear when your ship was launched.
23:37.41MonetAnything between 50-250 years I guess.
23:37.53Tek0516True, forgot about that.
23:38.54MonetBut that won't factor into the gap of the colonists' journey - the intro shows that everyone on these seeding ships is in cryonic suspension.
23:39.36MonetWhich jsut made me realise one of the reasons -why- it was said i nthe intro these peopel would never see friends or family ever again.
23:40.01Tek0516Right
23:40.21MonetWHich is that that is long enough for everyone's friends and family to have died from old age
23:41.20MonetSo I guess these earthbound sponsors are on a stab-in-the-dark mission because whatever president, premier, chancellor, CEO or whatever is in charge at launch might be dead by the time word returns
23:41.59Tek0516Probably would be.
23:43.35MonetWhich probably adds credance as to why there's no predeterminate victory based on the sponsor you choose - every person who you made promises to back home will be dead by the time you reestablish contact
23:44.18MonetTHe main objective is "find humanity a new home"
23:44.35MonetNothing about what to do with that home once you land
23:44.41Tek0516Yep, in faction its entirety plausible when you reestablish contact that your nation doesn't exist.
23:44.49Tek0516*in fact
23:45.05MonetVery likely
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23:45.53MonetIn fact one of the victory goals is "emancipation", which involves a supremacy faction sending 1000 points worth of troops though a gate to Earth to spread its ideology
23:46.32Tek0516For all we know those are already semi-stable post-apocalyptic states.
23:47.00MonetIts entirely possible that a supremacy faction by the end game builds the infrastructure and troops needed to *Invade and take over the Earth*
23:47.35MonetApparently Franco-Iberia is quite utopian by the time of The Seeding.
23:47.36Tek0516Yeah, obviously not the most welcome planet anymore.
23:48.21Tek0516The advertising videos make reference to the final days of Earth during the departure.
23:49.40MonetAnd the Harmony faction's goal path involves researching and combining the Alien to the point where they can create an organism to merge the consciousness of humanity with the latent sapient intelligence of the planet...and completely forget about poor old Earth.
23:49.49Monetalien genome*
23:50.50MonetI'm not kidding; wheras the Supremacy and Purity victory goals' first task is to build sattelites capable of FTL communication with Earth, a harmony civ can not bother at all.
23:51.24Tek0516*FTL Transportation
23:51.54MonetThat comes later.
23:51.59Tek0516Ah.
23:52.11Tek0516I'm just going off trailers here. XD
23:52.28Tek0516There's also the alien cobtact one too, isn't there?
23:52.35MonetYeah.
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23:55.45MonetHatama, the expedition leader for the Polystrailia mission ha a candid camera interview where he expressed that he was torn between the idea of the mission: Either 5bln people go about their business as usual with no change ot their lives, or 4,999,999,990,000 do.
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23:55.52TekDroidWhile I wait for Wikia to update... https://i.imgur.com/YvraqJth.png
23:55.56MonetHatama, the expedition leader for the Polystrailia mission ha a candid camera interview where he expressed that he was torn between the idea of the mission: Either 5bln people go about their business as usual with no change ot their lives, or 4,999,999,990,000 do.
23:56.35TekDroidProbably going to lose connection for a bit.
23:56.37TekDroidBbl.
23:56.47Monetokay
23:57.14MonetHe's a man who loves getting down with the common man. Except its entireply possible for you to play Hatama though the Transcendance victory which involves forgetting about the almost-five-billion peopel he left behind.
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23:57.59MonetHello
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23:58.57Tek0516Probably going to pop in out as I go through the tunnels
23:59.42MonetI guess what Civ: Beyond Earth lacks in nations and leaders with unique personality it makes up for in the customisability of said societies.
23:59.51Tek0516Indeed

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