00:08.51 | Wormy_ | hi |
00:17.20 | Tybusen | Hello |
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01:13.49 | Wormy_ | I'm really enjoying Brian Cox's Human Universe series |
01:13.59 | Wormy_ | Monet: Hsave you been watchi it? |
01:14.06 | Wormy_ | *watching |
01:14.14 | Monet | One I haven't no |
01:14.37 | Wormy_ | They are all on Iplayer |
01:15.05 | Wormy_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Universe |
01:17.15 | Wormy_ | lol http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6jNMoUwMqNs/TwwzHuQAwPI/AAAAAAAAN9Q/KctAU9egH_U/s1600/Do%2BYou%2BBelieve%2Bin%2BHumans%2B-%2BHuman%2BStories%2B-%2BVice%2BVersa%2BUniverse%2521.jpg |
01:23.35 | Tek0516 | I have two loads of laundry in the washing machines and $0.02 on my university card. XD This better update soon. :P |
01:24.31 | Wormy_ | There is always the old ways of doing laundry. |
01:25.09 | Tek0516 | I live on campus. :P |
01:26.40 | Tek0516 | *grabs backback off bed* *everything falls out* >.< |
01:27.30 | Wormy_ | Could have washed your clothes in the sink or shower |
01:27.51 | Wormy_ | Left them to soak with some detergent |
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01:35.55 | Patriot868 | Hello |
01:37.09 | Vincent20100 | Hi! |
01:37.14 | Vincent20100 | Nice to meet you! |
01:37.50 | Patriot868 | I've seen your stuff around. You made the Algourn Popular Republic right? |
01:38.03 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
01:38.31 | Patriot868 | Cool. You did a darn good job by the way. |
01:38.43 | Patriot868 | Is anyone else currently talking in irc at the moment? |
01:38.53 | Patriot868 | LActively I mean? |
01:38.54 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
01:39.01 | Vincent20100 | A lot |
01:39.16 | Vincent20100 | But most of them are shy. ^.^ |
01:40.56 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, yeah, I'm here. :P |
01:40.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Patriot |
01:41.18 | Vincent20100 | You may have to poke a few of them |
01:41.42 | OfficerJackal_ | hides in the corner with a shotgun. |
01:41.52 | Patriot868 | Hey drodo |
01:44.48 | Wormy_ | http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-german-bunker-gallery/ |
01:47.19 | Tek0516 | Hello |
01:52.08 | Wormy_ | just wow http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-brain-interface-humans.html#ajTabs |
01:52.25 | Vincent20100 | Trying to cme with vehicle gesign for the Sovereign of Gradesia and Caribbean |
01:55.17 | Tek0516 | Graesia? |
02:00.32 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sovereign_Republic_of_Gradesia |
02:01.07 | Tek0516 | Ah. |
02:08.53 | Wormy_ | bye |
02:15.46 | Vincent20100 | ++ |
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03:00.50 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
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04:30.03 | GD12 | Hello |
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12:39.31 | Wormy_ | hi |
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13:05.23 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
13:08.56 | OluapWorker | Hello |
13:09.40 | AdmiralPanda | Oluap: I was messing around making a quarterstaff-using fighter for D&D, and I think I just proved that monks are pointless OP trash |
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13:12.03 | drom | Back home from my food shoppinh! |
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13:21.03 | HachiDroid | Here for a bit |
13:21.36 | HachiDroid | Oh Oluap isn't here |
13:21.51 | HachiDroid | Hope he's okay |
13:23.04 | drom | pardon for the swedish captions, everyone. but here is a video from a news team which happen to capture a accident during covering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtrEZpa6OQ |
13:24.21 | HachiDroid | If either of you see him tell him I said <3 |
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13:25.58 | drom | Wormy__: Guess who was in the Swedish "Who knows most?". http://i.imgur.com/udngp0d.jpg |
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13:46.27 | Wormy_ | hi |
13:50.37 | drom | pulanball http://i.imgur.com/RD6YEuA.png |
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14:02.11 | Jepardi | Hi |
14:05.25 | drom | hai |
14:07.06 | drom | Jepardi http://i.imgur.com/XkwIkye.png |
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15:02.27 | Halopediaman | Anybody got good music to play Victoria 2 to? |
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15:07.59 | TekDroid | Gotta love this progression. When I sat down this channel was playing this complex choreographed video. 3 songs later it's a guy standing in fromt of camera in various locations. XD |
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15:27.26 | Vincent20100 | Hey! |
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15:36.52 | Hachiman | Hai |
15:37.10 | TekDroid | Hello |
15:37.57 | TekDroid | Alright, time for the weekly lecture I absolutely despise. >.< |
15:38.56 | Vincent20100 | You're gonna do the lecture to us? o.O |
15:39.30 | ImpyDroid | Hai |
15:39.42 | OluapWorker | ~cuddle Hachiman |
15:39.43 | infobot | ACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy |
15:40.11 | Hachiman | <3 |
15:40.28 | TekDroid | Looks like this week is a promotion for this competition. |
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16:13.46 | drom | Wormy_: Ain't that a real nice thing to see your pantry filled up with food? |
16:14.43 | TekDroid | ... O.o Apparently Ubisoft is pulling their games from Steam. |
16:15.09 | Technobliterator | lol |
16:15.10 | Technobliterator | why? |
16:15.20 | drom | Because they have gone full EA. |
16:15.32 | TekDroid | Or at least a couple big new ones apparently. |
16:15.39 | Technobliterator | sounds completely retarded |
16:15.52 | drom | The good thing is... their games are easily pirated anyway with their Uplay. |
16:15.55 | Technobliterator | most people buy games from Steam by default |
16:16.12 | TekDroid | I think it said the new AC, Farcry and the Crew or something like that? |
16:21.21 | drom | Honestly, having a well-stocked up fridge and pantry are the best thing you can have as an alone student. |
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16:31.15 | Tek0516 | Drom: having a well-stocked pantry and fridge in general really. :P |
16:34.11 | drom | Tek0516: I live in a dormitory with a cafeteria that serves dinner every evening. |
16:34.35 | drom | But no lunches. And they have got breakfast and night-sandvich bufferts. |
16:35.13 | Tek0516 | My university cafeteria offers the three meals a day buffet-style. |
16:38.06 | Tek0516 | Spartain: "Thanks. Look, I thought if I got myself banned from IRC it help you all trust me." Not to keep the hate-train going, but what? |
16:38.48 | drom | Having a well-stocked fridge and pantry gives you alot of freedom when it comes to food and eating. |
16:39.10 | OluapWorker | Hate-train has no brakes |
16:39.13 | OluapWorker | Dude's an idiot |
16:39.20 | Hachiman | What a retard |
16:39.52 | OluapWorker | He's got the largest block log in the wiki for a reason |
16:41.59 | drom | And I do have even plan baking a chocolate cake. Using mixed black beans and crushed almonds. A bit unusual, but it expected to have the same constrast as a real chocolate cake. |
16:43.21 | Tek0516 | My stockpile is more several cases of pop, a dozsn servings of Kraft Dinner and enough snacks to throw a party. XD |
16:44.06 | drom | Heh. My fridge is at the moment filled with teens of small bottles from different brands filled with groundwater from my parents' well. |
16:44.26 | drom | A box of milk and some bananas. |
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16:46.17 | Wormy_ | In know it well drom |
16:46.19 | Wormy_ | hi |
16:47.25 | drom | hi |
16:49.45 | drom | Vincent20100: http://i.imgur.com/RueNEaK.png |
16:49.57 | Vincent20100 | Mmm? |
16:50.19 | Vincent20100 | -_- |
16:50.21 | Tek0516 | Canada.:D |
16:50.21 | Vincent20100 | NO |
16:50.51 | Vincent20100 | Health in Canada is a competence of provinces, not the federal |
16:52.00 | drom | That's why Quebec is all about "non non non non" to all of the Canandian province-side policies. |
16:53.06 | Wormy_ | I need to stop slackin |
16:53.56 | Wormy_away | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCGKFwcqGqY |
17:01.06 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
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17:09.22 | drom | Vincent20100: You were a Quebecian? |
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17:10.43 | OluapWorker | impu |
17:10.45 | Vincent20100 | *Quebecker |
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17:11.09 | drom | Vincent20100: *throws salt at you* http://i.imgur.com/RD6YEuA.png |
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17:16.25 | Imperios | Hi |
17:16.36 | drom | Hai |
17:17.35 | drom | <a flawing greeting that insults the russian language> |
17:20.31 | Wormy_away | bloodyhell http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/gardener-dies-after-brushing-against-deadly-wolfsbane-flower-on-millionaires-estate/ar-AA6Yo9K |
17:23.15 | Vincent20100 | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202780357730063&set=p.10202780357730063&type=1 |
17:23.52 | Imperios | Wow |
17:24.44 | TekDroid | Today I learned I'm supposed to bring a potluck tomorrow. >.< |
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17:26.34 | drom | "there's no antidote against Aconitie" |
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17:28.07 | Wormy_away | dam nature |
17:28.11 | Wormy_away | u is scary |
17:28.13 | drom | and only 0.0005 grams is enough to give one severe symptons of poisoning. |
17:28.38 | drom | So yeah. Rub one of those, you are dead. |
17:29.55 | Wormy_away | I'm also scared of Giant Hogweed |
17:30.22 | Wormy_away | Its sap will give you burns when exposed to the Sun and lasts years. |
17:31.31 | drom | Me - "Cool" |
17:32.32 | drom | These plants are alot common in the countryside where I love. |
17:33.11 | drom | Specially roadsides. |
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17:36.30 | Wormy_away | I'm going to make a 3D map of the Milky Way for SporeWikiverse |
17:36.33 | drom | Not to mention that I picked those weeds when I was a kid. |
17:36.40 | drom | On roadtrips. |
17:36.42 | Wormy_away | damn, amy effects? |
17:38.37 | drom | None. If I can recall. Probably because I dryed it away with my jacket sleeves. |
17:38.51 | drom | Because the effects kicked in. |
17:38.57 | drom | Before* |
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17:40.40 | Wormy_away | yeah |
17:40.42 | Wormy_away | hi |
17:40.47 | TekDroid | Hello |
17:41.06 | Monet | Hi |
17:42.26 | drom | Or probably because they were immature enough to produce irritarable sap. |
17:43.20 | Monet | Hm? |
17:44.01 | drom | Because there's a pest control against them. So I have never seen one growing bigger than 1 meter. |
17:44.23 | drom | The control usually go 2-3 years. And alot of those were active when I was kid. |
17:44.47 | drom | Monet: Talkin' about Giant Hogweeds. |
17:45.38 | Monet | Right |
17:45.48 | drom | Since they usually grow in farms and roadsides. They are probably exterminated/reduced into very minimized state. |
17:46.25 | drom | Dandelions man. |
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17:46.50 | OluapWorker | spi |
17:46.53 | TekDroid | Hello |
17:46.57 | Xho | me |
17:47.12 | Imperios | ohX |
17:47.17 | drom | Tbh, I hate dandelions more than what the wikipeida describe the hogweeds' toxicity. |
17:47.47 | drom | Those are always juicy. No matter how mature they are. |
17:48.43 | Monet | What do you have against dandilions other than irritable sap? |
17:48.49 | Hachiman | spu |
17:48.54 | Monet | hi |
17:48.57 | drom | Their sap are also irritable. |
17:49.09 | Monet | I just said that |
17:49.14 | Xho | OluapWorker: I take it you saw my Caligawraith a few days ago |
17:49.21 | OluapWorker | Yes |
17:49.55 | drom | Basically, everything about dandelions. |
17:50.04 | OluapWorker | It's a good model |
17:50.24 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/15811_1539983129552090_2789890062712705850_n.jpg?oh=397fe3db3fca1ea6cdbfc67c4cdae6db&oe=54D1C813&__gda__=1423734929_fbad7422ee170008986097b1e77fda3f |
17:50.42 | drom | I know that there's unsurprisingly more people around here who hate dandelions, more or less. |
17:51.29 | Xho | I hate dandelions |
17:51.32 | Xho | Hayfever mainly |
17:51.45 | Monet | Hachi: I'm more annoyed ITV used a Google Maps image rather than going outside and actually taking a picture of Nandos. |
17:51.58 | Monet | It gives the article a shitty quality |
17:52.10 | drom | When I trim grass in shorts. I usually get them on my legs. |
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17:52.20 | Hachiman | Well consider that it would take time for them to do that as well as needing to pay to broadcast the image publicly |
17:52.31 | drom | It will itch during the rest of the day. |
17:52.33 | Wormy_ | I like dandelion and burdock, not that its made of dandelions anymore |
17:53.18 | Wormy_ | I think Dr Pepper tastes like D&B, but because its probably not in America its why Americans always find Dr Pepper mysterious |
17:53.19 | Monet | Hachiman: I did, but still feels like a cheap cheat to me. |
17:53.21 | drom | And, a obvious advice. Don't pick dandelions bare-handed. |
17:53.27 | drom | Or enjoy swollen nails. |
17:53.39 | Wormy_ | I don't get reactions of dandewion |
17:53.47 | Monet | Neither do i |
17:54.13 | Wormy_ | I used to make them with daisy chains when I was of that age when you don't care its not a male vthing to do |
17:54.15 | drom | Well. It's my issue anyway. |
17:54.18 | Monet | Then again the only mainstream news outlet I really follow these days is BBC |
17:56.47 | Monet | Probably because since its funding comes form taxpayer money it oesn't strictly have to come up with sensationalist headlines. |
17:57.21 | drom | Either, it's just me and my sensitive skin or the dandelions' sap are toxic due to the ground's mineral contents. |
17:57.51 | Monet | And this story definitely sounds like its media trying to show all teenagers are callous pricks with nothing better to do. |
17:58.34 | Monet | Which is why I was more interested in the quality of the headline image |
17:58.42 | TekDroid | Monet: Perhaps the government funding is why I also find CBC an acceptable news source over here. |
17:59.07 | Monet | brb |
18:00.39 | drom | I need to come across an political idea that can change a nation's domestic reception. Without everything losing their minds. |
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18:01.01 | Jepardi | Hi |
18:01.22 | drom | And one to change aboard policies. |
18:06.04 | Xho | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/63742_1069145309799325_1995897887095968446_n.jpg?oh=40ef0d9b4caf3106ccca6b749fcf9220&oe=54DC656A Headlines involving Nu |
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18:10.22 | TekDroid | Hello! |
18:11.05 | VIncent20100 | Hey guys! |
18:11.11 | VIncent20100 | Angry! |
18:11.16 | drom | Oh my god. |
18:11.18 | drom | Yes. |
18:11.18 | VIncent20100 | hugs Angry |
18:11.53 | drom | Angrybirds: Got time to talk about realpolitik shenanigans cocerning making an isolated empire's aborad politics, more 'open'? |
18:12.00 | Monet | Xho: Hachi showed us that |
18:12.18 | Xho | dropkicks Hachiman |
18:12.29 | drom | #rekt |
18:12.41 | Monet | I can't see past the headline being sensationalist BS tbh |
18:13.32 | Monet | We're talking about a single teenager, or perhaps a gang, picking up a 2-5 year old in a Nanod's toilet and then taking the effort to lift them up and then drop-kick them into one of the stalls. |
18:13.56 | Monet | To me, even if it was by a bunch of chavs, I find the idea of this allegation too crazy to be believeable |
18:14.16 | Angrybirds | drom: Sure! |
18:14.42 | Xho | Nu - done to hachi six times at least |
18:15.39 | Monet | Yeah but Nu's an insane alien with absolutely no moral compass or concern for what anyone thinks of him. |
18:15.55 | TekDroid | Angrybirds: I'm a few clicks away from attempting to remake the humanity map as an SVG. I hate you right now. XD |
18:16.13 | Xho | So are chavs |
18:16.19 | Angrybirds | TekDroid: D: |
18:16.44 | Monet | I think even chavs have concern for what the other chavs think about their actions |
18:16.49 | drom | Monet Xho: 1% bikers. |
18:16.56 | TekDroid | I'm seriously considering it though. XD |
18:17.01 | Monet | "I threw a baby in a toilet, aren't I hard and awesome!" |
18:20.17 | Monet | Right so I've played 150-ish turns of Beyond Earth |
18:20.23 | Monet | Pretty decent I must say. |
18:21.23 | Monet | If people are calling this a glorified total conversion mod, it's a bloody high-grade one. |
18:22.23 | TekDroid | People are basically comparing it to the fully developed Civ V. |
18:23.37 | Monet | I'm starting ot think that they set their expectations too high or that they expected it to be nothing like the previous games |
18:24.19 | Monet | Or this new setting is so well-developed in concept that they need to find -something- to moan about. |
18:24.32 | TekDroid | I think the general expectation is final Civ V but better, and Aplha Centauri but better and with improved graphics. |
18:25.32 | Monet | Oh yeah and each tech and wonder has its own unique quotes connected to it. |
18:25.54 | Monet | Good quotes aren't something one can pull out of their arse. |
18:25.55 | TekDroid | Huh. Neat. |
18:26.15 | TekDroid | Inded. |
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18:27.32 | Monet | So yeah, I'm starting to get this imperssion that due to the slew of mediocre IPs and games these past few years, some gamers may have set their expectations too high. |
18:28.14 | Monet | Add to that there are some old games out there where they're better than new stuff -because- they've lasted. |
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18:29.04 | Wormy_ | Don't put anything past drunken chavs |
18:29.14 | Tek0516 | The "old stuff is better" arises because the other 99% of it has been forgotten. |
18:29.21 | Wormy_ | They fired a firework on the bus I was on the other day! |
18:30.02 | Monet | I remember reading reviews of Metropolis when it came out and critics hated it. several years down the line after the media panning and its popuilarity with the the film's own director said that looking back he thought it had a stupid message. |
18:30.16 | Monet | with the Nazi Party* |
18:30.44 | Monet | Today its ocnsidered one of the greatest films ever. Ninety NINE percent on Rotton tomatoes |
18:32.05 | Monet | I myself am unsure how it happened and it did have a lacklustre ending |
18:32.15 | Monet | I guess its celebrated because of what followed it |
18:33.35 | Monet | My point is that in some cases, old stuff becomes much better recieved in the future somehow |
18:36.34 | Xho | Hm |
18:36.35 | Xho | wat do |
18:36.54 | drom | commit sadism on some beggars |
18:37.22 | Xho | done that |
18:37.47 | drom | test if your BMW can withstand driving over someone |
18:37.50 | OluapWorker | write stuff |
18:38.29 | Xho | Drom: It's a BMW, I'm pretty sure it can |
18:38.38 | Xho | OluapWorker: like wat |
18:39.04 | Monet | I think my biggest gribe with hype backlash is thet you get a number of peope - the proportion depending on how popular the IP is - who will never forgive developers for falling short. Even in this age where patches can be made and released free of charge and installed automatically. |
18:39.51 | OluapWorker | Everything |
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18:40.20 | Xho | not helpin |
18:40.25 | Wormy_ | What was my last message |
18:40.45 | OluapWorker | Follow the two step plan then |
18:40.50 | Xho | wat dat |
18:41.04 | OluapWorker | Step one: get Shrek'd Step two: there's no step two |
18:41.07 | Monet | Take Rome 2. It was a bit of a mess when it first came out and Creative Assembly spent a YEAR working on patches and bug fixes t osort out the worst of the problems and offered a compilation package in the form of the Emperor Edition. Yet when the edition was announced and activated, there were -still- people going "too little to late" |
18:41.08 | Xho | All I can think of is Aztec Two-Step and then "BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" |
18:41.10 | Wormy_ | My internet continues to go down the shitter |
18:41.54 | Monet | And acted like CA took a dump in their pool never to apologise. |
18:42.08 | Monet | The latter they did. Many times. |
18:45.12 | OluapWorker | Write the page for Kaiwhatsherface's servants |
18:45.17 | Xho | Kablah |
18:45.18 | Xho | k |
18:45.59 | OluapWorker | I also wanted to talk to you about ebul killy stoof |
18:46.12 | Xho | yey |
18:50.34 | Monet | I recall in TotalBiscuit's "WTF is Beyond Earth?" he stated that because he was doign a first-imperssions video he didn't have the time to find bugs that would have arisen form say 100 hours of gameplay or explore every nook and cranny of the game. |
18:50.57 | Monet | I think I've gained a lot of sympathy for film/game developers lately. |
18:51.06 | Wormy_ | The 3D galaxy is looking good |
18:53.11 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.08 | drom | Wormy_ Cool |
18:54.31 | Wormy_ | I think with it being 3D, empire sizes can be better represented |
18:54.33 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.40 | Wormy_ | Plus, lots of great perspectives |
18:55.33 | Wormy_ | My only worry is that the image I'm using as a template is the same on on Sporewiki, which has been copied from Google Images and I'm not aware of its copyright |
18:56.44 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
18:57.42 | Wormy_ | No you are right, people should be more careful about what is said publically. |
18:57.56 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
18:58.44 | Wormy_ | I have never understood why we often continue to talk in spite about certain users or trolls on IRC. It gives them more of a firing range. |
18:58.57 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
18:59.03 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:59.11 | Wormy_ | Then it isn't logged |
19:00.02 | Wormy_ | And more to the point, the SporeWiki shouldn't be used like that. its in the rules. Those other chats its lawless I guess |
19:00.52 | Monet | We've been accused before of our behaviour. |
19:00.59 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
19:01.44 | Wormy_ | I remember that time the user from DA was upset, and rightfully. |
19:01.54 | Monet | Spartian may be banned and he may have been warned, but that doesn't mean we are immune from punishment even if he did start it. |
19:02.23 | Monet | We carried on amongst outselves after he left or was banned. |
19:02.27 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
19:02.45 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
19:03.49 | Xho | Well |
19:03.56 | Xho | Politeness set aside |
19:04.06 | Xho | If you're from deviantART you should stay in deviantART |
19:04.10 | drom | Don't get started until you put the sentence. |
19:04.18 | drom | space before the sentence* |
19:04.19 | Monet | drom: Yeah, over a year ago we had someone come here from DA. Whe nshe came on the IRC she was nice and friendly and fun. THen she found the hurtful comments made about her on the IRC and published a blog on DA that got a fair amount of notice and support. |
19:04.22 | Wormy_ | lol |
19:04.28 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
19:04.43 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
19:04.51 | Xho | If you're from dA you're from an inhospitable climate in the internet |
19:05.07 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
19:05.12 | Monet | Woahwoah no everyone on DA is a freak |
19:05.54 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:06.57 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:07.14 | Xho | True |
19:07.22 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
19:07.24 | Xho | Though the ratio is about 20000 : 1 |
19:07.41 | Monet | oh for fuck's sake this is what I'm talking about. |
19:07.56 | Xho | You do realise you're taking this too closely to heart right |
19:08.59 | Xho | But for the most part if one user is gonna start being a problem, I'm not going to care |
19:09.04 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.11 | Xho | If ten users are problem, then I'll care |
19:09.26 | Xho | a problem* |
19:10.03 | Monet | If you don't like DA, avoid it or shut up about it. |
19:10.44 | Xho | Hm |
19:10.49 | Xho | I'll let this slide |
19:11.05 | Monet | One of my pet peeves is when people assume the vocal minority is the general minority |
19:11.15 | Monet | general majority, sorry. |
19:12.16 | Monet | Its no wonder racial and ethnic prejudice is still a thing considering how quickly people jump to stereotype |
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19:13.03 | Xho | I'm so good at twisting people |
19:13.12 | Xho | That was probably a little evil of me |
19:13.37 | Xho | The discussion was rather dumb anyway |
19:13.45 | drom | Straight out. |
19:14.00 | Wormy_ | He had a point though, its too easy to conflate the stupid environmentalists with all of them. |
19:14.10 | drom | I feel bad for starting about this. |
19:16.08 | Xho | There's a reason why people generalise groups |
19:16.21 | Xho | Things such as psychological classification simplifies our perceptions on the world |
19:17.13 | Xho | Everyone classifies things differently and this is why people grate against each other |
19:17.34 | Xho | There's really nothing much more to that other than "deal with it" |
19:18.42 | Xho | People overcomplicate the issue when they try to promote open mindedness |
19:18.59 | Xho | Everyone can be open minded but never usually in exactly the same way |
19:20.30 | Xho | But anyway, stupid discussion was stupid |
19:21.42 | Hachiman | Wormy_: https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10552424_1540009546216115_4411297575042490572_n.jpg?oh=a6ff7b841b0b7e1d0287309a307190cd&oe=54F4A974 |
19:21.55 | Xho | >spac |
19:22.55 | Wormy_ | How could you ruin that scene |
19:23.16 | Wormy_ | Obviously, she is the girlfriend of a geek dragged to a sci-fi convention. |
19:23.58 | Imperios | Why can't she be a geek herself? |
19:24.30 | Xho | Well, I imagine geeks would be able to spell Spock without much effort |
19:24.35 | Xho | Star Trek geeks anyway |
19:25.37 | Wormy_ | And know Spock of from Star Trek |
19:25.41 | Wormy_ | *is |
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19:36.13 | GD12 | Hello |
19:36.21 | GD12 | Just popping in for a bit |
19:36.23 | GD12 | to say |
19:36.30 | GD12 | wtf is going on with this Spartian stuff haha |
19:36.35 | GD12 | I honestly don't get it |
19:41.11 | Xho | Neither does anyone else really |
19:43.31 | Xho | Hachiman: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10751857_10152492340883379_1757911856_n.jpg?oh=99d90b50523212333f214b09b22f81c7&oe=545FAB84&__gda__=1415504149_748af16594e98c07fb0de4fba8900486 My friend's picture of Tosin Abasi |
19:43.54 | Imperios | Wait |
19:44.00 | Imperios | ...Now I get the joke |
19:47.13 | Technobliterator | Do I have to give Monet another warning? |
19:47.39 | Technobliterator | in fact, I think the whole "warnings can expire after x months" thing is dumb, it should just be a general notice instead of a fixed thing |
19:47.58 | OluapWorker | What you need is stop giving Spartian chances, he has been given enough chances already |
19:48.29 | Technobliterator | I'm not giving him chances, it's obvious he's never going to redeem himself |
19:48.37 | Xho | Not really worth giving anyone a warning |
19:48.54 | OluapWorker | Stop telling him to question his ban then |
19:49.54 | Technobliterator | no, I gave him the ability to edit his message wall so he can use that instead of ban evading |
19:50.37 | Technobliterator | And it's pretty much policy to let people who are allowed to edit their own talk pages also appeal to have their ban removed |
19:51.00 | OluapWorker | This has been done before, a year ago |
19:52.03 | Technobliterator | It's obvious that he's not going to redeem himself, just look at his ban history |
19:52.59 | OluapWorker | And yet you keep feeding him attention |
19:53.02 | Xho | Honestly I don't think anyone really cares whether Spartian does anything at all |
19:54.00 | Technobliterator | I'm not feeding him anything |
19:54.20 | Xho | Feed him lies, sweet juicy lies |
19:54.21 | Technobliterator | Unless you count my recent post on his message wall, that is |
19:54.28 | OluapWorker | I do |
19:54.39 | OluapWorker | What do you think i'm talking about |
19:55.05 | Xho | Imperios: So Serani is now a queen of cat peeps |
19:55.08 | Technobliterator | My post on his talk page was not even that long |
19:55.56 | Xho | Oh lord stop this discussion |
19:56.08 | Imperios | Xho: I am not sure, but that's one of the possibilities |
19:56.25 | Imperios | Making her a plain old succubus was a dum idea after all |
19:58.24 | Technobliterator | There's no discussion, I'm just explaining myself. Spartian is not coming back, at most I gave him false hope. |
19:58.26 | Imperios | Another idea was to keep her a demonic creature but make her more of a Satan-like figure |
19:59.11 | Xho | That would be difficult since there's a lot of demonic satans in the Fantasyverse |
19:59.17 | Xho | Most of them mine but still |
19:59.21 | Imperios | Satan as in "tempter/seducer", not "rawr imma kill everything" |
19:59.39 | Imperios | I mean Caligaduro is not very tempting |
19:59.51 | Imperios | Cats are generally more tempting and seductive than giant demon things |
20:00.11 | Hachiman | >Implying you'd put your dick in a cat |
20:00.33 | Xho | Caligaduro turned a storm god to his side, I'd say that's pretty tempting |
20:10.27 | Imperios | Hachiman: What kind of cat |
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20:12.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
20:13.28 | Imperios | Xho: Didn't he just physically corrupt him though |
20:24.46 | Xho | Physically, mentally |
20:25.21 | Xho | There's a reason why those who follow him are drawn to his power |
20:25.30 | Technobliterator | New Forum post |
20:25.42 | Xho | If Caligaduro wasn't masterful at tempting and manipulating then no one would follow him since he's pretty much super satan |
20:25.42 | Technobliterator | Please read |
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20:27.42 | Imperios | Ah meh |
20:28.17 | Imperios | I think that a Scottish Boudicca catgirl is better than a Satanic catgirl anyway |
20:28.28 | Imperios | With a huge sword, too |
20:28.53 | Xho | I was about to say a William Wallace quote but that's like 1200 years after Boudicca |
20:32.28 | Imperios | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZmKEf-AYhJE God that's like a TF2/Wildstar mix |
20:32.31 | Imperios | So dum |
20:35.53 | Tek0516 | I found an image we can probably get rid of. |
20:37.16 | Tek0516 | France.jpeg; unused and it's smaller and lower quality than the current Flag of France.png |
20:39.58 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH4T3Zq1eQQ |
20:40.41 | Technobliterator | For the record, if I get no comments on the forum, I will view it as no on disagreeing and will just remove infobot anyway |
20:42.41 | DrodoEmpire | I'm posting now |
20:43.36 | DrodoEmpire | Posted. |
20:43.50 | DrodoEmpire | In all, I see your points Tech but I disagree with your propositions. |
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20:44.48 | Technobliterator | Who is OdelSpeedster? |
20:45.38 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not certain |
20:45.47 | DrodoEmpire | He seems to have been around for a while |
20:45.50 | DrodoEmpire | Why do you ask> |
20:45.53 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
20:47.04 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
20:47.06 | DrodoEmpire | Now i see |
20:47.10 | Technobliterator | I want to know who he is on IRC so that I can respond to him |
20:47.34 | DrodoEmpire | Also I'll be editing my message to add a few extra points; Just a heads up |
20:47.41 | Tek0516 | IIRC that is also his IRC name. |
20:47.49 | Technobliterator | Okay, I won't reply yet then |
20:48.03 | drom | Awh, monet is not here. |
20:48.05 | Technobliterator | But anyway, there are *several* ways to replicate Infobot and make the logs private ourselves |
20:48.12 | drom | Otherwise, I drew something... http://i.imgur.com/aFfYIgs.jpg |
20:48.26 | drom | The right arm needs a touchup though. |
20:48.42 | DrodoEmpire | Well I disagree with making the logs private or only accessable to a few; And if people keep their own then this removal becomes redundant |
20:48.59 | Wormy__ | I've replied |
20:49.23 | Technobliterator | If people keep their own, then this removal creates the desired outcome |
20:49.32 | DrodoEmpire | And then there's the possibility that people may be able to edit their private logs they keep or for them to become corrupted otherwise |
20:49.35 | Technobliterator | That logs are no longer publicly viewable by randomers |
20:49.36 | DrodoEmpire | Why would it be? |
20:49.47 | DrodoEmpire | Why should be scared by some random people? |
20:49.51 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
20:49.59 | DrodoEmpire | Or be scared by people having a look? |
20:50.11 | Technobliterator | I shall continue this discussion on the forum |
20:50.23 | DrodoEmpire | (Actually I didn't make any edits, nevermind) |
20:50.52 | drom | After a little merasurements, the arms don't need touchups. |
20:50.54 | Xho | I don't care about this to be honest |
20:51.01 | Xho | It's all overreacting everywhere again |
20:51.20 | Technobliterator | No, it's removing the overreactions or preventing them occurring |
20:51.31 | Xho | As if anyone actually reads the logs |
20:52.03 | DrodoEmpire | I say that the logs are a stability issue or a source of paranoia is an *extreme* overstatement |
20:52.07 | DrodoEmpire | tbh |
20:52.44 | Technobliterator | Xho, that was my attitude for a long while too, but having received so many complaints, I find them counterproductive |
20:52.51 | DrodoEmpire | The logs are useful to quote old segments and few actually read them otherwise; I see no reason to remove them seeing as a few of the more dramatic problems you said they caused do not in fact exist/ |
20:53.12 | Xho | Complaints of what |
20:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | Making them private or having people keep their own would not solve the supposed "stability issues" or paranoia |
20:53.29 | Tek0516 | I haven't seen these paranoia or overreaction issues? Are they really such a problem. |
20:53.33 | DrodoEmpire | In fact it may increase such feeling |
20:53.39 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, as I have already said, this discussion is to be moved to the forum |
20:53.41 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: They aren't. I've never seen them mentioned |
20:53.54 | DrodoEmpire | I did post there. |
20:54.01 | Wormy__ | Actually I have redited my post |
20:54.02 | Technobliterator | And I am replying there |
20:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yet you're also talking to Xho about this matter, why can't I? |
20:54.26 | Xho | Drodo has a point |
20:54.35 | Technobliterator | I shouldn't be talking to him about it either |
20:54.51 | Xho | But still |
20:54.54 | Xho | Complaints of what |
20:54.55 | Technobliterator | I wouldn't if what I wanted to reply with wasn't so small |
20:55.40 | DrodoEmpire | The conversation seems to be rather long; This isn't very "small", to be honest |
20:55.44 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
20:55.51 | Xho | ...complaints of what |
20:55.55 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:56.00 | Tek0516 | ^ |
20:56.18 | DrodoEmpire | I agree with Xho, anyhow; You never gave any source for these problems they pose, or the complaints you've been receiving. |
20:56.43 | Technobliterator | As I have already said, this discussion is being moved to the forum. I will not reply to or read any comments made here. |
20:56.48 | Xho | I think infobot should stay |
20:57.01 | Xho | If users are gonna get offended with the content on it I'll just say man the fuck up |
20:57.02 | DrodoEmpire | Because why? |
20:57.08 | Wormy__ | Actually I agree now totally |
20:57.15 | DrodoEmpire | With who Wormy? |
20:57.35 | Hachiman | Left a comment |
20:57.37 | Wormy__ | We must cherish the free and open market of ideas. Read my reply or press F5 |
20:58.16 | Technobliterator | I've pressed F5, I'm responding to everything now |
20:58.19 | Wormy__ | I was unsure before but now I think I oppose |
20:59.57 | Xho | This |
21:00.00 | Xho | Is really stupid |
21:00.40 | Xho | We're going to discuss removing infobot because one user (who's banned) doesn't like what he sees on the logs |
21:01.09 | Technobliterator | Xho, my reasoning for removing infobot goes far and beyond Spartian's comment |
21:01.12 | Wormy__ | No, its built up from my conversation with Monet |
21:01.21 | Technobliterator | And from that discussion too. |
21:01.39 | Wormy__ | Not that I think infobot should be removed. Rather people should be mindful what they post |
21:01.45 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:01.48 | Wormy__ | publically |
21:01.52 | DrodoEmpire | I haven't seen him spammed in ages |
21:01.59 | Xho | publicly* |
21:02.01 | Xho | Sorry had to do that |
21:02.04 | Wormy__ | lol |
21:02.17 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Responded |
21:02.17 | Wormy__ | I can actually spell when I'm not typing so fast |
21:03.04 | Xho | This is almost nanny stating the wiki though |
21:03.55 | Wormy__ | yes |
21:03.57 | Wormy__ | ngh |
21:04.18 | Wormy__ | Its like when chavs knock down the bin so much the council stops putting them back |
21:04.32 | Wormy__ | I can think of better examples probably |
21:05.20 | Technobliterator | Responded |
21:05.37 | Tek0516 | When I do use infobot it the ~test serves legitimate purpose. Firstly to check if I'm still connected in an empty chat, and also as a way of indicating I'm still there without making random messages or saying hello randomlym |
21:06.49 | Hachiman | You can just PM the infobot to do that |
21:07.03 | Wormy__ | Actually I remember. When I was a kid, this pub had rusty tractors and engines that kids could play on, I had great fun. One day one kid hurt themselves so the pub to remove the entire playground. >>Nanny State for you. |
21:07.37 | Technobliterator | You can PM infobot for that, or we can just make our own version which has all the functions and doesn't allow for abuse |
21:07.46 | Wormy__ | Tek: I test on a seperate channel because I hate people saying "tset" |
21:08.20 | Technobliterator | Furthermore, our own version would give us a lot more freedom and when we input commands for it to remember, they would be SporeWiki-specific commands, instead of Infobot's generic ones |
21:08.37 | Tek0516 | Like I said I only doing it here when the channel is quiet (especially if it drops suddenly), otherwise I do use infobot. |
21:09.01 | Wormy__ | Does any of us actually know enough programming to make a bot though? Lets be real. |
21:09.09 | Wormy__ | for IRC |
21:09.10 | Technobliterator | ... |
21:09.13 | Technobliterator | as a matter of fact, I do. |
21:09.23 | Technobliterator | And if I can't, we have Morgoth |
21:09.32 | Hachiman | She doesn't spend all her time in the kitchen doing nothing |
21:09.36 | Hachiman | Surprisingly |
21:09.37 | Technobliterator | :o |
21:09.39 | Wormy__ | I know some programming languages but applied to completely different things |
21:10.00 | drom | I'm up for that. But it'll be a slow start cause I don't know Py. |
21:10.11 | Technobliterator | Python is easy as hell |
21:10.27 | Xho | Well |
21:10.33 | Xho | Let the forum decide first |
21:10.36 | Technobliterator | I do feel like alot of people are opposing the removal of Infobot ignoring half of what I said about how we can just replicate it |
21:10.49 | Imperios | rite we can |
21:10.54 | Imperios | Technobliterator: One thing though |
21:11.01 | Technobliterator | Most people seem to have responded to the title, not to the post |
21:11.02 | Imperios | will our old logs be saved? |
21:11.09 | Xho | We're opposing the removal of Infobot simply because it's not worth removing it |
21:11.14 | Technobliterator | They will, we won't take them down |
21:11.26 | Technobliterator | If we wanted to, we can host them somewhere else |
21:11.27 | drom | Imperios: I'm afraid that we have to manually move one after one. |
21:11.52 | Imperios | Well TBH having our own bot WOULD be a sensible decision |
21:12.03 | Technobliterator | I have been working on that for some time |
21:12.16 | Technobliterator | Not only that, but it would replace morgothbot's functions, and code up RPs |
21:12.17 | Xho | Perhaps but I don't see it being necessary if people don't find it necessary to remove infobot |
21:12.18 | drom | there's java bots for IRC too |
21:12.35 | Imperios | Infobot is an "alien" entity and having a bot we can program and control more transparently would be a good step forward |
21:12.43 | Imperios | I mean where did it even come from |
21:12.46 | Imperios | Did Morgoth install it: |
21:12.48 | Imperios | ? |
21:13.00 | Technobliterator | He did, it's used on tons of other channels as well |
21:13.32 | Imperios | Ergo using our own independent bot would fix a lot of problems |
21:14.02 | drom | How about we create a team and get started then? |
21:14.13 | Technobliterator | We have already got started |
21:14.15 | Xho | But |
21:14.15 | Imperios | Just so long as we can ~cuddle |
21:14.20 | Xho | Why are we ignoring the forum |
21:14.21 | Technobliterator | Morgoth hosts it on github |
21:14.28 | Imperios | ~throw Technobliterator into the kitchen |
21:14.28 | infobot | ACTION winds up and throws Technobliterator into the kitchen over the moon. |
21:14.49 | Technobliterator | We are not ignoring the forum, the forum is ignoring a lot of the OP |
21:15.01 | Wormy__ | Erm there has been no mutual agreement. |
21:15.02 | Xho | From your point of view perhaps |
21:15.06 | drom | Technobliterator: Good. Now, go and make us sandviches. |
21:15.09 | Technobliterator | If you want me to change the title because it has the incorrect implications, then I will |
21:15.24 | Xho | I still oppose the idea of a new bot as well |
21:15.31 | Xho | No point to it |
21:15.33 | Technobliterator | For...what purpose? |
21:16.03 | Technobliterator | It's not like it's detrimental, or like it's even that difficult to do |
21:16.11 | Xho | Purpose being that we don't use Infobot much and the new bot would follow suit |
21:16.41 | Wormy__ | I utterly oppose the idea of making the logs private or deleting them for reasons argued. However, I don't oppose a new bot as long as the logs stay open. But get it working before we get rid of infobot. |
21:16.43 | Technobliterator | if we don't use infobot much, then why is it a problem if we remove it? |
21:17.24 | DrodoEmpire | Well I use it a lot for the "~seen" command, is the thing |
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21:17.28 | DrodoEmpire | Which is useful |
21:17.28 | Wormy__ | In fact most of the commenters oppose private logs it seems |
21:17.29 | Knight_Alien | Hello |
21:17.30 | drom | Me too. |
21:17.37 | Technobliterator | Seen is useless |
21:17.38 | Wormy__ | me too |
21:17.43 | Wormy__ | No its not |
21:17.43 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? How so? |
21:17.56 | Xho | Can we just like |
21:18.01 | Wormy__ | I used it earlier to find out what my last comment was before timing out |
21:18.02 | Xho | Shut up and pretend this never happened |
21:18.06 | Technobliterator | It is based purely on an IRC nick, reliant totally on someone a) using the same IRC nick and b) commenting on this particular channel |
21:18.17 | DrodoEmpire | So? That's all I need to know |
21:18.26 | Xho | It's come out of a completely and utterly stupid discussion and has formed an equally useless idea |
21:18.27 | Wormy__ | You can seen ~seen from other channels though |
21:18.41 | DrodoEmpire | I know the nicks and alternate nicks of the people I use the command for and I only care if they've been on this channel lately |
21:18.41 | drom | channels with infobot installed, yes |
21:18.55 | Wormy__ | well duh |
21:19.06 | DrodoEmpire | So its pretty useful to me |
21:19.07 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
21:19.09 | Technobliterator | If you are suggesting we incorporate seen in the new bot, then fine |
21:19.10 | Wormy__ | But that is two of the channels I use and most of us are only one one or two |
21:19.19 | DrodoEmpire | A new bot is redundant |
21:19.26 | Technobliterator | In...what way? |
21:19.40 | DrodoEmpire | If you want to put in the hours to make a new bot, with the same general purpose, then go ahead. |
21:19.45 | drom | I think I have to be conversative tonight for now. |
21:19.46 | DrodoEmpire | But it'll still be redundant |
21:19.49 | Wormy__ | Look, the infobot issue is beside the real point. The real point is how open we want our logs. |
21:19.50 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
21:19.54 | drom | conservative* |
21:19.59 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: that's a main issue for me |
21:20.03 | DrodoEmpire | *the |
21:20.04 | Technobliterator | So...you've completely ignored everything we've discussed for a while now? |
21:20.33 | Wormy__ | Or has our point been ignored? Thats a bit relative. |
21:20.44 | DrodoEmpire | I have been elsewhere, yes; I suppose I should apologize for putting in my opinion./ |
21:20.45 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
21:20.52 | Wormy__ | I'm pretty sure the discussion started on the openness of the logs. |
21:21.15 | Xho | This sounds almost like a vanity project to be honest |
21:21.17 | Technobliterator | We *already* have half a bot completed, it is *not that hard* to do, it gives us *infinitely more control over it and allows more SporeWiki personalisation*, the list goes on |
21:21.26 | Wormy__ | Nobody is talking about that here. |
21:21.38 | DrodoEmpire | Very well then. Implement it. |
21:21.49 | DrodoEmpire | I just don't see how different or better it could be |
21:21.56 | DrodoEmpire | But if you are confident it is; Then by all means |
21:22.03 | Xho | At least Drodo and I are on the same wavelength |
21:22.38 | drom | Well. I admit that I'm on the same wavelength, even if I'm interested to develop one. |
21:22.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:23.04 | Wormy__ | I don't think this part of the discussion is very important. What is important is what I keep reminding |
21:23.34 | Wormy__ | If we did have a new bot, are we having open logs or not? |
21:23.35 | DrodoEmpire | Now i believe the opinion of nthe community is decidedly against the proposal; Perhaps we should set a date or time at which this discussion is over, and we come to a conclusion? |
21:23.37 | Technobliterator | The thing is, replace infobot's functions or not, I was going to do it anyway |
21:23.50 | DrodoEmpire | "For and against" vote at a certain time after discussion? |
21:24.05 | DrodoEmpire | Just so we don't let this argument spiral out of control |
21:24.11 | DrodoEmpire | And never reach a conclusion |
21:24.28 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, I'm planning to resolve the discussion in due time |
21:24.36 | DrodoEmpire | Do yuo have a date in mind? |
21:24.39 | DrodoEmpire | *you |
21:24.47 | DrodoEmpire | Or time? |
21:24.48 | Technobliterator | No, but this forum was posted only an hour ago |
21:24.58 | Tek0516 | Commented. |
21:25.05 | Technobliterator | That you can say we "are decidedly against the proposal" after an hour is premature |
21:25.20 | Technobliterator | well, uh |
21:25.30 | Technobliterator | I mean it's a premature conclusion to draw |
21:25.42 | DrodoEmpire | I mean so far. |
21:26.09 | DrodoEmpire | So perhaps so; But I personally hold doubt that the tide may turn. |
21:26.13 | Wormy__ | For the record, I don't care about infobot. But the new but must a) be less easily abused b) I'd like the logs open at least to users and up |
21:26.29 | Wormy__ | *but the new bot |
21:26.31 | DrodoEmpire | I haven't seen it "abused" in ages; Its no longer a problem imo |
21:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | But safeguards would be nice |
21:27.03 | Wormy__ | That is what I mean. |
21:27.05 | Technobliterator | That people are continuing to ignore or dodge the OP is upsetting |
21:27.17 | DrodoEmpire | "ignore" it? |
21:27.17 | Wormy__ | What do you mean? |
21:27.20 | DrodoEmpire | "Dodge" it? |
21:27.22 | DrodoEmpire | How so? |
21:27.26 | Xho | I'm close to just saying "Shut up everyone and leave this stupid thing alone" |
21:27.28 | Technobliterator | Most people defend its existence because they are defending the functions it has |
21:27.34 | Tek0516 | How are we "dodging" it? |
21:27.52 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Maybe logs should only be opened to the select fiew? |
21:27.54 | Technobliterator | Half the OP was basically stating that we can just replicate them all |
21:27.55 | Imperios | *few |
21:27.59 | Tek0516 | The issue here seems to be logging, not the functions. |
21:28.04 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:28.07 | DrodoEmpire | Its the IRC logs |
21:28.08 | Imperios | Like, you have to spend at least some time here to be accepted |
21:28.09 | Technobliterator | Logging is one of the functions |
21:28.22 | drom | We need the logging. |
21:28.26 | Technobliterator | Imperios, I would support that, but it needs discussion/consensus first |
21:28.31 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: I highly disagree; I think its important that everyone has access |
21:28.42 | Imperios | Like, everyone who is at least as experienced and accepted as drom |
21:28.44 | Technobliterator | And again, half the OP was saying about how it doesn't matter if we remove the logs |
21:28.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its a silly doube-standard |
21:28.59 | Technobliterator | You can log it yourselves and there will be no negative consequences |
21:29.01 | Imperios | I like logs personally |
21:29.08 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: again, no. |
21:29.26 | drom | Sounds too far silly for me, sorry. |
21:29.37 | Tek0516 | The main argument for removing logs is that you can create your own, yet that is absolutely redundant if we have a bot dojng it. |
21:29.37 | Technobliterator | Nothing is silly about it |
21:30.02 | DrodoEmpire | 3, 4 against, 2, 3 for. At best we're even; At worst the opinion's against you |
21:30.06 | Hachiman | The fact that you can record your own information without having to wade through tons of crap? |
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21:30.19 | Xho | This whole discussion is a ton of crap |
21:30.27 | Wormy_ | What was my last comment? |
21:30.28 | DrodoEmpire | "I know; But this would make the removal and restriction to admins-only totally redundant as now I, a regular user, have them too. On top of that, lets just say I wanted to twist someone's quote to use against them; Less scrupulous users could do that too and, as long as no admins where around, appear very convincing." |
21:30.37 | DrodoEmpire | A quote from me |
21:31.10 | Wormy_ | I proposed making the logs open only to registered IRC users and having the passwords changed if we are suspicious they have been leaked |
21:31.13 | DrodoEmpire | Someone could use their own logs to intentionally misquote and, without anyone with offical logging priviledges they'd be hard to disprove. |
21:31.39 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, who said no one would have "official logging priviledges"? |
21:31.43 | DrodoEmpire | Plus keeping private logs makes admin-only logs, again, reduntant. |
21:31.47 | DrodoEmpire | *redundant |
21:31.51 | Tek0516 | ^^^^^ |
21:31.56 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, people with access to the logs. |
21:31.58 | Xho | Agree |
21:31.58 | Wormy_ | I think its unfair |
21:31.58 | DrodoEmpire | tech. |
21:32.01 | Technobliterator | An IRC channel with no one logging them at all is an absurd channel |
21:32.11 | Technobliterator | I never said remove *all* logs |
21:32.15 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Agreed |
21:32.21 | DrodoEmpire | That's not what I am saying either! |
21:32.28 | drom | Xho: So. Should I put a video of "Hitler finds out" from the Downfall? |
21:32.33 | Xho | Drom: Yes |
21:32.33 | Technobliterator | And this is why I think IRC discussion is useless for these things |
21:32.41 | DrodoEmpire | I mean giving access to the logs to only few like admins is silly and unfair |
21:32.42 | Xho | Well |
21:32.45 | DrodoEmpire | And makes misquoting easier |
21:32.53 | Xho | Suffice to say I think this discussion should end right now |
21:32.57 | Technobliterator | it's just a bunch of rapidly typing and misinterpretting one another, followed by useless "^" or "agree" comments |
21:32.58 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:33.00 | Xho | Because, well, there's no reason for it |
21:33.05 | drom | It's getting on my nerves. |
21:33.08 | DrodoEmpire | Not really tech |
21:33.16 | DrodoEmpire | Now yes, we should stop |
21:33.21 | Wormy_ | Well I agree all wiki decisions should be made on SporeWiki |
21:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | This'll devolve into a flamewar |
21:33.30 | drom | PLEASE, STOP SAYING THE SAME ARGURMENT OVER AND OVER |
21:33.31 | Hachiman | I think it already has |
21:33.35 | Technobliterator | I'm not flaming anyone. |
21:33.36 | Xho | ^ |
21:33.38 | Xho | hih |
21:33.45 | drom | Different sentence, same shit. |
21:33.47 | Hachiman | This has already gone beyond debate territory |
21:33.50 | Wormy_ | This is quite a reasonable discussion. |
21:33.53 | DrodoEmpire | I never said you where, Tech... |
21:33.59 | DrodoEmpire | I said it will become one soon |
21:34.02 | DrodoEmpire | Are you misreading? |
21:34.11 | Hachiman | Drodo that's enough |
21:34.17 | DrodoEmpire | Its an honest question |
21:34.19 | DrodoEmpire | But I agree |
21:34.20 | Xho | https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mejhcusO7C1qmte6so1_500.gif This discussion |
21:34.22 | Wormy_ | That could easily be misread as "you will cause a flamewar" :P |
21:34.23 | DrodoEmpire | More than enough |
21:34.28 | drom | Does Freenode have a gag command? |
21:34.31 | Technobliterator | For the record, I have better things to be doing right now |
21:34.45 | drom | I mean, IRC in general to silence users. |
21:34.51 | DrodoEmpire | Like who? :P |
21:34.54 | Xho | There is but we don't use it |
21:34.55 | Technobliterator | And yes, yes it does |
21:34.59 | Technobliterator | I can use it now |
21:35.00 | Wormy_ | Anyway, funny story. When I reconnected my Captcha thing said "disconnected" |
21:35.31 | drom | I declare this dicussion, dead. |
21:36.05 | Xho | Good, shouldn't have started in the first place |
21:36.09 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:37.49 | drom | Thanks for being mature, gentlemen. |
21:38.38 | Technobliterator | ahem |
21:38.55 | drom | And lad(ies). |
21:39.19 | Technobliterator | :o |
21:40.40 | Technobliterator | and now, I must setup my new PC |
21:40.50 | drom | cool |
21:41.36 | Wormy_ | I shall ha\ve my dinner |
21:41.42 | Technobliterator | urgh, I wish I kept my Linux install disc |
21:41.48 | Technobliterator | I need it more than ever right now |
21:41.57 | Wormy_ | Also, I shall post the 3D galaxy renderings tomorrow |
21:42.17 | Tek0516 | Cool |
21:43.08 | drom | I posted this earlier at the wrong time. I'll take the opporunity to post it again. http://i.imgur.com/aFfYIgs.jpg |
21:43.36 | Wormy_ | Good posture and head |
21:43.43 | Wormy_ | Whats it for |
21:43.50 | DrodoEmpire | "TOY STORY 4 CONFIRMED; THE SEQUEL LITERALLY NO ONE WANTED AND NO ONE REALLY EXPECTED, BUT IT'S HAPPENING." |
21:43.59 | drom | Well. Just a random humanoid alien. |
21:44.10 | Wormy_ | I knew Toy Story 4 was coming somehow |
21:44.31 | Knight_Alien | No....Toy story 4 should never have come. |
21:44.56 | Wormy_ | why |
21:45.13 | drom | I was thinking to use it as a static image of an alien race in my hobby Unity C# game. But I guess it will take a long while before it gets finished. So don't have expections yet. |
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21:45.47 | Knight_Alien | Because 3 mostly Ended it. |
21:46.16 | Knight_Alien | Now Disney is useing Cash Grab Abilities. |
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21:47.05 | Wormy__ | Why? |
21:47.14 | drom | <Knight_Alien> Because 3 mostly Ended it. |
21:47.14 | drom | <Knight_Alien> Now Disney is useing Cash Grab Abilities. |
21:47.48 | Wormy__ | As long as there is interest and money to be made, the franchise must go on |
21:47.56 | Knight_Alien | I posted to wrong person -__ |
21:48.32 | Wormy__ | Its like Doctor Who, the Doctor originally had 13 incarnations, now he can have many more |
21:48.36 | drom | Wormy__: Here another explaination of my drawing: I was thinking to use it as a static image of an alien race in my hobby Unity C# game. But I guess it will take a long while before it gets finished. So don't have expections yet. |
21:48.45 | drom | In case you missed it. |
21:48.52 | Wormy__ | I did |
22:06.59 | Technobliterator | I cannot say I saw the day I would be setting up Windows |
22:07.02 | Technobliterator | 8 |
22:07.07 | Xho | hoh |
22:08.22 | Tek0516 | Lop |
22:08.25 | Tek0516 | ^lol |
22:08.41 | Technobliterator | I don't think I'll keep it for long, but who knows |
22:08.53 | Technobliterator | I'm told 8.1 is far better than 8 |
22:08.58 | Tek0516 | Just long enough to reinstall Linux? |
22:09.39 | Technobliterator | That's what I'm thinking |
22:09.40 | Tek0516 | I never really noticed much difference with 8.1, just a button to take me to the start menu no one ever uses. |
22:10.16 | Technobliterator | Tek0516, how do you open the terminal in Windows? |
22:10.33 | Tek0516 | Terminal? |
22:10.36 | Technobliterator | has no idea how to execute python commands in non-Linux |
22:10.41 | Tek0516 | Oh. |
22:11.06 | Technobliterator | ...wow, it booted into the desktop first |
22:11.19 | Tek0516 | Oh yeah, and that. |
22:12.00 | drom | Predator 2 has alot of action. Probably too much action. |
22:12.38 | Tek0516 | Not sure on the terminal thing. |
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22:18.26 | DrodoEmpire | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10176083_386873621467524_81795638604570618_n.jpg?oh=750d9318362fd0b6457e3be0bb4cff15&oe=54D893C7&__gda__=1424985542_66ecb084d7ada40b61faedbd646a29b7 - Mongol Empire in 1785 |
22:18.36 | DrodoEmpire | *Still using Nomad tech group* |
22:18.49 | DrodoEmpire | That's probably the most astonishing part for me. XD |
22:19.04 | Tek0516 | ...that Portugal. O.o |
22:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | It is objectively the worst tech group in the game; Yet he made one of the largest empires in the save with it |
22:19.40 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
22:19.51 | DrodoEmpire | I don't even want to know how they pulled that off |
22:19.53 | Tek0516 | Must of inherited Russia. |
22:20.04 | DrodoEmpire | Probably |
22:20.27 | Tek0516 | Based on displayed DLC this is several versions ago. |
22:20.47 | ImpyDroid | Wait |
22:20.57 | ImpyDroid | Why is Spain in the Far East? |
22:21.07 | DrodoEmpire | Good question. |
22:21.58 | DrodoEmpire | Probably colonized straight through across North America/Inherited British/French colonies already across North America there and sailed there |
22:22.15 | DrodoEmpire | That, or they inherited far eastern colonies like Portugal must've. |
22:22.41 | Tek0516 | That ahistorical bit happened a lot in older versions. |
22:23.28 | ImpyDroid | Well |
22:23.53 | DrodoEmpire | And to be honest, EUIV goes off the rails the second you begin the game. XD That said ridiculous stuff like that has been curbed in recent updates so its alternate history, but more within the constraints of reality |
22:24.24 | DrodoEmpire | In the first version someone took over the entire planet with Ryukyu; A tiny, one-province nation south of Japan |
22:25.14 | Tek0516 | Someone still did it a version ago though |
22:25.19 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
22:25.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah; Its nearly impossible to pull off but is possible |
22:25.36 | Tek0516 | Though he plays gamey as heck. |
22:25.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
22:25.55 | DrodoEmpire | You have to exploit a *lot* of glitches and other things to do it |
22:26.36 | Tek0516 | His next game exploited stacking modifiers to have negative naval maintenance. |
22:26.42 | DrodoEmpire | The average player usually manages to build an empire that is feasible historically |
22:26.49 | DrodoEmpire | Even if highly unlikely |
22:26.57 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: Yeah you where telling me |
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22:41.58 | Liquid_Ink | Hello all |
22:43.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
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22:52.19 | Xho | Just saw this existential phenomenon |
22:52.23 | Xho | Lego Minecraft |
22:52.25 | Xho | So |
22:52.31 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
22:52.46 | Xho | You're building a scene using bricks of a scene that uses blocks to build block buildings |
22:52.51 | Liquid_Ink | You haven't come across Lego minecraft yet? |
22:53.08 | Liquid_Ink | I have three sets of it beside me as we speak. |
22:53.12 | Xho | I'm nearly 20, I don't think my life accommodates for toys any more |
22:53.22 | Liquid_Ink | I pity for you. |
22:53.26 | Liquid_Ink | https://33.media.tumblr.com/4c37612e0c30d76b6ca4c990fa240767/tumblr_nekwayQ9kk1rlpicfo1_1280.jpg |
22:53.45 | Xho | My toys are mainly guitars and stuff relating to that |
22:55.56 | Xho | Though I probably won't be buying anything musical instrument related for a long while now |
22:56.12 | Xho | Got to pay off for the rest of my car which is about £3100 left |
23:01.22 | Liquid_Ink | When I capture the leader of Al Qaeda, Clint Eastwood style, and get the reward I'll help pay it off. Then supply you with Lego Minecraft. |
23:02.19 | Xho | Right |
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23:07.27 | Wormy_ | hi+ |
23:10.09 | TekDroid | Hello |
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23:23.59 | drom | Oh lookie! Another drawing! http://i.imgur.com/lycu1NI.jpg |
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23:42.57 | TekDroid | ~test |
23:42.57 | infobot | methinks test is not funny |
23:43.07 | drom | Wormy_: C? http://i.imgur.com/lycu1NI.jpg |
23:43.45 | TekDroid | That's a cool sketch. |
23:45.12 | Wormy_ | Tis indeed good |
23:49.20 | drom | dake |
23:49.22 | drom | danke* |