IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141107

00:08.51Wormy_hi
00:17.20TybusenHello
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01:13.49Wormy_I'm really enjoying Brian Cox's Human Universe series
01:13.59Wormy_Monet:  Hsave you been watchi it?
01:14.06Wormy_*watching
01:14.14MonetOne I haven't no
01:14.37Wormy_They are all on Iplayer
01:15.05Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Universe
01:17.15Wormy_lol http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6jNMoUwMqNs/TwwzHuQAwPI/AAAAAAAAN9Q/KctAU9egH_U/s1600/Do%2BYou%2BBelieve%2Bin%2BHumans%2B-%2BHuman%2BStories%2B-%2BVice%2BVersa%2BUniverse%2521.jpg
01:23.35Tek0516I have two loads of laundry in the washing machines and $0.02 on my university card. XD This better update soon. :P
01:24.31Wormy_There is always the old ways of doing laundry.
01:25.09Tek0516I live on campus. :P
01:26.40Tek0516*grabs backback off bed* *everything falls out* >.<
01:27.30Wormy_Could have washed your clothes in the sink or shower
01:27.51Wormy_Left them to soak with some detergent
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01:35.55Patriot868Hello
01:37.09Vincent20100Hi!
01:37.14Vincent20100Nice to meet you!
01:37.50Patriot868I've seen your stuff around. You made the Algourn Popular Republic right?
01:38.03Vincent20100Yah
01:38.31Patriot868Cool. You did a darn good job by the way.
01:38.43Patriot868Is anyone else currently talking in irc at the moment?
01:38.53Patriot868LActively I mean?
01:38.54Vincent20100Yah
01:39.01Vincent20100A lot
01:39.16Vincent20100But most of them are shy. ^.^
01:40.56DrodoEmpireOh, yeah, I'm here. :P
01:40.59DrodoEmpireHey Patriot
01:41.18Vincent20100You may have to poke a few of them
01:41.42OfficerJackal_hides in the corner with a shotgun.
01:41.52Patriot868Hey drodo
01:44.48Wormy_http://www.viralnova.com/hidden-german-bunker-gallery/
01:47.19Tek0516Hello
01:52.08Wormy_just wow http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-brain-interface-humans.html#ajTabs
01:52.25Vincent20100Trying to cme with vehicle gesign for the Sovereign of Gradesia and Caribbean
01:55.17Tek0516Graesia?
02:00.32Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sovereign_Republic_of_Gradesia
02:01.07Tek0516Ah.
02:08.53Wormy_bye
02:15.46Vincent20100++
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03:00.50Knight_AlienHi
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12:39.31Wormy_hi
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13:05.23AdmiralPandahi all
13:08.56OluapWorkerHello
13:09.40AdmiralPandaOluap: I was messing around making a quarterstaff-using fighter for D&D, and I think I just proved that monks are pointless OP trash
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13:12.03dromBack home from my food shoppinh!
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13:21.03HachiDroidHere for a bit
13:21.36HachiDroidOh Oluap isn't here
13:21.51HachiDroidHope he's okay
13:23.04drompardon for the swedish captions, everyone. but here is a video from a news team which happen to capture a accident during covering. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBtrEZpa6OQ
13:24.21HachiDroidIf either of you see him tell him I said <3
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13:25.58dromWormy__: Guess who was in the Swedish "Who knows most?". http://i.imgur.com/udngp0d.jpg
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13:46.27Wormy_hi
13:50.37drompulanball http://i.imgur.com/RD6YEuA.png
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14:02.11JepardiHi
14:05.25dromhai
14:07.06dromJepardi http://i.imgur.com/XkwIkye.png
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15:02.27HalopediamanAnybody got good music to play Victoria 2 to?
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15:07.59TekDroidGotta love this progression. When I sat down this channel was playing this complex choreographed video. 3 songs later it's a guy standing in fromt of camera in various locations. XD
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15:27.26Vincent20100Hey!
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15:36.52HachimanHai
15:37.10TekDroidHello
15:37.57TekDroidAlright, time for the weekly lecture I absolutely despise. >.<
15:38.56Vincent20100You're gonna do the lecture to us? o.O
15:39.30ImpyDroidHai
15:39.42OluapWorker~cuddle Hachiman
15:39.43infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
15:40.11Hachiman<3
15:40.28TekDroidLooks like this week is a promotion for this competition.
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16:13.46dromWormy_: Ain't that a real nice thing to see your pantry filled up with food?
16:14.43TekDroid... O.o Apparently Ubisoft is pulling their games from Steam.
16:15.09Technobliteratorlol
16:15.10Technobliteratorwhy?
16:15.20dromBecause they have gone full EA.
16:15.32TekDroidOr at least a couple big new ones apparently.
16:15.39Technobliteratorsounds completely retarded
16:15.52dromThe good thing is... their games are easily pirated anyway with their Uplay.
16:15.55Technobliteratormost people buy games from Steam by default
16:16.12TekDroidI think it said the new AC, Farcry and the Crew or something like that?
16:21.21dromHonestly, having a well-stocked up fridge and pantry are the best thing you can have as an alone student.
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16:31.15Tek0516Drom: having a well-stocked pantry and fridge in general really. :P
16:34.11dromTek0516: I live in a dormitory with a cafeteria that serves dinner every evening.
16:34.35dromBut no lunches. And they have got breakfast and night-sandvich bufferts.
16:35.13Tek0516My university cafeteria offers the three meals a day buffet-style.
16:38.06Tek0516Spartain: "Thanks. Look, I thought if I got myself banned from IRC it help you all trust me." Not to keep the hate-train going, but what?
16:38.48dromHaving a well-stocked fridge and pantry gives you alot of freedom when it comes to food and eating.
16:39.10OluapWorkerHate-train has no brakes
16:39.13OluapWorkerDude's an idiot
16:39.20HachimanWhat a retard
16:39.52OluapWorkerHe's got the largest block log in the wiki for a reason
16:41.59dromAnd I do have even plan baking a chocolate cake. Using mixed black beans and crushed almonds. A bit unusual, but it expected to have the same constrast as a real chocolate cake.
16:43.21Tek0516My stockpile is more several cases of pop, a dozsn servings of Kraft Dinner and enough snacks to throw a party. XD
16:44.06dromHeh. My fridge is at the moment filled with teens of small bottles from different brands filled with groundwater from my parents' well.
16:44.26dromA box of milk and some bananas.
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16:46.17Wormy_In know it well drom
16:46.19Wormy_hi
16:47.25dromhi
16:49.45dromVincent20100: http://i.imgur.com/RueNEaK.png
16:49.57Vincent20100Mmm?
16:50.19Vincent20100-_-
16:50.21Tek0516Canada.:D
16:50.21Vincent20100NO
16:50.51Vincent20100Health in Canada is a competence of provinces, not the federal
16:52.00dromThat's why Quebec is all about "non non non non" to all of the Canandian province-side policies.
16:53.06Wormy_I need to stop slackin
16:53.56Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCGKFwcqGqY
17:01.06drom<PROTECTED>
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17:09.22dromVincent20100: You were a Quebecian?
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17:10.43OluapWorkerimpu
17:10.45Vincent20100*Quebecker
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17:11.09dromVincent20100: *throws salt at you* http://i.imgur.com/RD6YEuA.png
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17:16.25ImperiosHi
17:16.36dromHai
17:17.35drom<a flawing greeting that insults the russian language>
17:20.31Wormy_awaybloodyhell http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/gardener-dies-after-brushing-against-deadly-wolfsbane-flower-on-millionaires-estate/ar-AA6Yo9K
17:23.15Vincent20100https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202780357730063&set=p.10202780357730063&type=1
17:23.52ImperiosWow
17:24.44TekDroidToday I learned I'm supposed to bring a potluck tomorrow. >.<
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17:26.34drom"there's no antidote against Aconitie"
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17:28.07Wormy_awaydam nature
17:28.11Wormy_awayu is scary
17:28.13dromand only 0.0005 grams is enough to give one severe symptons of poisoning.
17:28.38dromSo yeah. Rub one of those, you are dead.
17:29.55Wormy_awayI'm also scared of Giant Hogweed
17:30.22Wormy_awayIts sap will give you burns when exposed to the Sun and lasts years.
17:31.31dromMe - "Cool"
17:32.32dromThese plants are alot common in the countryside where I love.
17:33.11dromSpecially roadsides.
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17:36.30Wormy_awayI'm going to make a 3D map of the Milky Way for SporeWikiverse
17:36.33dromNot to mention that I picked those weeds when I was a kid.
17:36.40dromOn roadtrips.
17:36.42Wormy_awaydamn, amy effects?
17:38.37dromNone. If I can recall. Probably because I dryed it away with my jacket sleeves.
17:38.51dromBecause the effects kicked in.
17:38.57dromBefore*
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17:40.40Wormy_awayyeah
17:40.42Wormy_awayhi
17:40.47TekDroidHello
17:41.06MonetHi
17:42.26dromOr probably because they were immature enough to produce irritarable sap.
17:43.20MonetHm?
17:44.01dromBecause there's a pest control against them. So I have never seen one growing bigger than 1 meter.
17:44.23dromThe control usually go 2-3 years. And alot of those were active when I was kid.
17:44.47dromMonet: Talkin' about Giant Hogweeds.
17:45.38MonetRight
17:45.48dromSince they usually grow in farms and roadsides. They are probably exterminated/reduced into very minimized state.
17:46.25dromDandelions man.
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17:46.50OluapWorkerspi
17:46.53TekDroidHello
17:46.57Xhome
17:47.12ImperiosohX
17:47.17dromTbh, I hate dandelions more than what the wikipeida describe the hogweeds' toxicity.
17:47.47dromThose are always juicy. No matter how mature they are.
17:48.43MonetWhat do you have against dandilions other than irritable sap?
17:48.49Hachimanspu
17:48.54Monethi
17:48.57dromTheir sap are also irritable.
17:49.09MonetI just said that
17:49.14XhoOluapWorker: I take it you saw my Caligawraith a few days ago
17:49.21OluapWorkerYes
17:49.55dromBasically, everything about dandelions.
17:50.04OluapWorkerIt's a good model
17:50.24Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/15811_1539983129552090_2789890062712705850_n.jpg?oh=397fe3db3fca1ea6cdbfc67c4cdae6db&oe=54D1C813&__gda__=1423734929_fbad7422ee170008986097b1e77fda3f
17:50.42dromI know that there's unsurprisingly more people around here who hate dandelions, more or less.
17:51.29XhoI hate dandelions
17:51.32XhoHayfever mainly
17:51.45MonetHachi: I'm more annoyed ITV used a Google Maps image rather than going outside and actually taking a picture of Nandos.
17:51.58MonetIt gives the article a shitty quality
17:52.10dromWhen I trim grass in shorts. I usually get them on my legs.
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17:52.20HachimanWell consider that it would take time for them to do that as well as needing to pay to broadcast the image publicly
17:52.31dromIt will itch during the rest of the day.
17:52.33Wormy_I like dandelion and burdock, not that its made of dandelions anymore
17:53.18Wormy_I think Dr Pepper tastes like D&B, but because its probably not in America its why Americans always find Dr Pepper mysterious
17:53.19MonetHachiman: I did, but still feels like a cheap cheat to me.
17:53.21dromAnd, a obvious advice. Don't pick dandelions bare-handed.
17:53.27dromOr enjoy swollen nails.
17:53.39Wormy_I don't get reactions of dandewion
17:53.47MonetNeither do i
17:54.13Wormy_I used to make them with daisy chains when I was of that age when you don't care its not a male vthing to do
17:54.15dromWell. It's my issue anyway.
17:54.18MonetThen again the only mainstream news outlet I really follow these days is BBC
17:56.47MonetProbably because since its funding comes form taxpayer money it oesn't strictly have to come up with sensationalist headlines.
17:57.21dromEither, it's just me and my sensitive skin or the dandelions' sap are toxic due to the ground's mineral contents.
17:57.51MonetAnd this story definitely sounds like its media trying to show all teenagers are callous pricks with nothing better to do.
17:58.34MonetWhich is why I was more interested in the quality of the headline image
17:58.42TekDroidMonet: Perhaps the government funding is why I also find CBC an acceptable news source over here.
17:59.07Monetbrb
18:00.39dromI need to come across an political idea that can change a nation's domestic reception. Without everything losing their minds.
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18:01.01JepardiHi
18:01.22dromAnd one to change aboard policies.
18:06.04Xhohttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/63742_1069145309799325_1995897887095968446_n.jpg?oh=40ef0d9b4caf3106ccca6b749fcf9220&oe=54DC656A Headlines involving Nu
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18:10.22TekDroidHello!
18:11.05VIncent20100Hey guys!
18:11.11VIncent20100Angry!
18:11.16dromOh my god.
18:11.18dromYes.
18:11.18VIncent20100hugs Angry
18:11.53dromAngrybirds: Got time to talk about realpolitik shenanigans cocerning making an isolated empire's aborad politics, more 'open'?
18:12.00MonetXho: Hachi showed us that
18:12.18Xhodropkicks Hachiman
18:12.29drom#rekt
18:12.41MonetI can't see past the headline being sensationalist BS tbh
18:13.32MonetWe're talking about a single teenager, or perhaps a gang, picking up a 2-5 year old in a Nanod's toilet and then taking the effort to lift them up and then drop-kick them into one of the stalls.
18:13.56MonetTo me, even if it was by a bunch of chavs, I find the idea of this allegation too crazy to be believeable
18:14.16Angrybirdsdrom: Sure!
18:14.42XhoNu - done to hachi           six times at least
18:15.39MonetYeah but Nu's an insane alien with absolutely no moral compass or concern for what anyone thinks of him.
18:15.55TekDroidAngrybirds: I'm a few clicks away from attempting to remake the humanity map as an SVG. I hate you right now. XD
18:16.13XhoSo are chavs
18:16.19AngrybirdsTekDroid: D:
18:16.44MonetI think even chavs have concern for what the other chavs think about their actions
18:16.49dromMonet Xho: 1% bikers.
18:16.56TekDroidI'm seriously considering it though. XD
18:17.01Monet"I threw a baby in a toilet, aren't I hard and awesome!"
18:20.17MonetRight so I've played 150-ish turns of Beyond Earth
18:20.23MonetPretty decent I must say.
18:21.23MonetIf people are calling this a glorified total conversion mod, it's a bloody high-grade one.
18:22.23TekDroidPeople are basically comparing it to the fully developed Civ V.
18:23.37MonetI'm starting ot think that they set their expectations too high or that they expected it to be nothing like the previous games
18:24.19MonetOr this new setting is so well-developed in concept that they need to find -something- to moan about.
18:24.32TekDroidI think the general expectation is final Civ V but better, and Aplha Centauri but better and with improved graphics.
18:25.32MonetOh yeah and each tech and wonder has its own unique quotes connected to it.
18:25.54MonetGood quotes aren't something one can pull out of their arse.
18:25.55TekDroidHuh. Neat.
18:26.15TekDroidInded.
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18:27.32MonetSo yeah, I'm starting to get this imperssion that due to the slew of mediocre IPs and games these past few years, some gamers may have set their expectations too high.
18:28.14MonetAdd to that there are some old games out there where they're better than new stuff -because- they've lasted.
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18:29.04Wormy_Don't put anything past drunken chavs
18:29.14Tek0516The "old stuff is better" arises because the other 99% of it has been forgotten.
18:29.21Wormy_They fired a firework on the bus I was on the other day!
18:30.02MonetI remember reading reviews of Metropolis when it came out and critics hated it. several years down the line after the media panning and its popuilarity with the the film's own director said that looking back he thought it had a stupid message.
18:30.16Monetwith the Nazi Party*
18:30.44MonetToday its ocnsidered one of the greatest films ever. Ninety NINE percent on Rotton tomatoes
18:32.05MonetI myself am unsure how it happened and it did have a lacklustre ending
18:32.15MonetI guess its celebrated because of what followed it
18:33.35MonetMy point is that in some cases, old stuff becomes much better recieved in the future somehow
18:36.34XhoHm
18:36.35Xhowat do
18:36.54dromcommit sadism on some beggars
18:37.22Xhodone that
18:37.47dromtest if your BMW can withstand driving over someone
18:37.50OluapWorkerwrite stuff
18:38.29XhoDrom: It's a BMW, I'm pretty sure it can
18:38.38XhoOluapWorker: like wat
18:39.04MonetI think my biggest gribe with hype backlash is thet you get a number of peope - the proportion depending on how popular the IP is - who will never forgive developers for falling short. Even in this age where patches can be made and released free of charge and installed automatically.
18:39.51OluapWorkerEverything
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18:40.20Xhonot helpin
18:40.25Wormy_What was my last message
18:40.45OluapWorkerFollow the two step plan then
18:40.50Xhowat dat
18:41.04OluapWorkerStep one: get Shrek'd              Step two: there's no step two
18:41.07MonetTake Rome 2. It was a bit of a mess when it first came out and Creative Assembly spent a YEAR working on patches and bug fixes t osort out the worst of the problems and offered a compilation package in the form of the Emperor Edition. Yet when the edition was announced and activated, there were -still- people going "too little to late"
18:41.08XhoAll I can think of is Aztec Two-Step and then "BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
18:41.10Wormy_My internet continues to go down the shitter
18:41.54MonetAnd acted like CA took a dump in their pool never to apologise.
18:42.08MonetThe latter they did. Many times.
18:45.12OluapWorkerWrite the page for Kaiwhatsherface's servants
18:45.17XhoKablah
18:45.18Xhok
18:45.59OluapWorkerI also wanted to talk to you about ebul killy stoof
18:46.12Xhoyey
18:50.34MonetI recall in TotalBiscuit's "WTF is Beyond Earth?" he stated that because he was doign a first-imperssions video he didn't have the time to find bugs that would have arisen form say 100 hours of gameplay or explore every nook and cranny of the game.
18:50.57MonetI think I've gained a lot of sympathy for film/game developers lately.
18:51.06Wormy_The 3D galaxy is looking good
18:53.11Monet<PROTECTED>
18:54.08dromWormy_ Cool
18:54.31Wormy_I think with it being 3D, empire sizes can be better represented
18:54.33Monet<PROTECTED>
18:54.40Wormy_Plus, lots of great perspectives
18:55.33Wormy_My only worry is that the image I'm using as a template is the same on on Sporewiki, which has been copied from Google Images and I'm not aware of its copyright
18:56.44Monet<PROTECTED>
18:57.42Wormy_No you are right, people should be more careful about what is said publically.
18:57.56drom<PROTECTED>
18:58.44Wormy_I have never understood why we often continue to talk in spite about certain users or trolls on IRC.  It gives them more of a firing range.
18:58.57drom<PROTECTED>
18:59.03Wormy_<PROTECTED>
18:59.11Wormy_Then it isn't logged
19:00.02Wormy_And more to the point, the SporeWiki shouldn't be used like that.  its in the rules.  Those other chats its lawless I guess
19:00.52MonetWe've been accused before of our behaviour.
19:00.59Wormy_<PROTECTED>
19:01.44Wormy_I remember that time the user from DA was upset, and rightfully.
19:01.54MonetSpartian may be banned and he may have been warned, but that doesn't mean we are immune from punishment even if he did start it.
19:02.23MonetWe carried on amongst outselves after he left or was banned.
19:02.27Wormy_<PROTECTED>
19:02.45drom<PROTECTED>
19:03.49XhoWell
19:03.56XhoPoliteness set aside
19:04.06XhoIf you're from deviantART you should stay in deviantART
19:04.10dromDon't get started until you put the sentence.
19:04.18dromspace before the sentence*
19:04.19Monetdrom: Yeah, over a year ago we had someone come here from DA. Whe nshe came on the IRC she was nice and friendly and fun. THen she found the hurtful comments made about her on the IRC and published a blog on DA that got a fair amount of notice and support.
19:04.22Wormy_lol
19:04.28drom<PROTECTED>
19:04.43drom<PROTECTED>
19:04.51XhoIf you're from dA you're from an inhospitable climate in the internet
19:05.07drom<PROTECTED>
19:05.12MonetWoahwoah no everyone on DA is a freak
19:05.54Monet<PROTECTED>
19:06.57Monet<PROTECTED>
19:07.14XhoTrue
19:07.22drom<PROTECTED>
19:07.24XhoThough the ratio is about 20000 : 1
19:07.41Monetoh for fuck's sake this is what I'm talking about.
19:07.56XhoYou do realise you're taking this too closely to heart right
19:08.59XhoBut for the most part if one user is gonna start being a problem, I'm not going to care
19:09.04Monet<PROTECTED>
19:09.11XhoIf ten users are problem, then I'll care
19:09.26Xhoa problem*
19:10.03MonetIf you don't like DA, avoid it or shut up about it.
19:10.44XhoHm
19:10.49XhoI'll let this slide
19:11.05MonetOne of my pet peeves is when people assume the vocal minority is the general minority
19:11.15Monetgeneral majority, sorry.
19:12.16MonetIts no wonder racial and ethnic prejudice is still a thing considering how quickly people jump to stereotype
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19:13.03XhoI'm so good at twisting people
19:13.12XhoThat was probably a little evil of me
19:13.37XhoThe discussion was rather dumb anyway
19:13.45dromStraight out.
19:14.00Wormy_He had a point though, its too easy to conflate the stupid environmentalists with all of them.
19:14.10dromI feel bad for starting about this.
19:16.08XhoThere's a reason why people generalise groups
19:16.21XhoThings such as psychological classification simplifies our perceptions on the world
19:17.13XhoEveryone classifies things differently and this is why people grate against each other
19:17.34XhoThere's really nothing much more to that other than "deal with it"
19:18.42XhoPeople overcomplicate the issue when they try to promote open mindedness
19:18.59XhoEveryone can be open minded but never usually in exactly the same way
19:20.30XhoBut anyway, stupid discussion was stupid
19:21.42HachimanWormy_: https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10552424_1540009546216115_4411297575042490572_n.jpg?oh=a6ff7b841b0b7e1d0287309a307190cd&oe=54F4A974
19:21.55Xho>spac
19:22.55Wormy_How could you ruin that scene
19:23.16Wormy_Obviously, she is the girlfriend of a geek dragged to a sci-fi convention.
19:23.58ImperiosWhy can't she be a geek herself?
19:24.30XhoWell, I imagine geeks would be able to spell Spock without much effort
19:24.35XhoStar Trek geeks anyway
19:25.37Wormy_And know Spock of from Star Trek
19:25.41Wormy_*is
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19:36.13GD12Hello
19:36.21GD12Just popping in for a bit
19:36.23GD12to say
19:36.30GD12wtf is going on with this Spartian stuff haha
19:36.35GD12I honestly don't get it
19:41.11XhoNeither does anyone else really
19:43.31XhoHachiman: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10751857_10152492340883379_1757911856_n.jpg?oh=99d90b50523212333f214b09b22f81c7&oe=545FAB84&__gda__=1415504149_748af16594e98c07fb0de4fba8900486 My friend's picture of Tosin Abasi
19:43.54ImperiosWait
19:44.00Imperios...Now I get the joke
19:47.13TechnobliteratorDo I have to give Monet another warning?
19:47.39Technobliteratorin fact, I think the whole "warnings can expire after x months" thing is dumb, it should just be a general notice instead of a fixed thing
19:47.58OluapWorkerWhat you need is stop giving Spartian chances, he has been given enough chances already
19:48.29TechnobliteratorI'm not giving him chances, it's obvious he's never going to redeem himself
19:48.37XhoNot really worth giving anyone a warning
19:48.54OluapWorkerStop telling him to question his ban then
19:49.54Technobliteratorno, I gave him the ability to edit his message wall so he can use that instead of ban evading
19:50.37TechnobliteratorAnd it's pretty much policy to let people who are allowed to edit their own talk pages also appeal to have their ban removed
19:51.00OluapWorkerThis has been done before, a year ago
19:52.03TechnobliteratorIt's obvious that he's not going to redeem himself, just look at his ban history
19:52.59OluapWorkerAnd yet you keep feeding him attention
19:53.02XhoHonestly I don't think anyone really cares whether Spartian does anything at all
19:54.00TechnobliteratorI'm not feeding him anything
19:54.20XhoFeed him lies, sweet juicy lies
19:54.21TechnobliteratorUnless you count my recent post on his message wall, that is
19:54.28OluapWorkerI do
19:54.39OluapWorkerWhat do you think i'm talking about
19:55.05XhoImperios: So Serani is now a queen of cat peeps
19:55.08TechnobliteratorMy post on his talk page was not even that long
19:55.56XhoOh lord stop this discussion
19:56.08ImperiosXho: I am not sure, but that's one of the possibilities
19:56.25ImperiosMaking her a plain old succubus was a dum idea after all
19:58.24TechnobliteratorThere's no discussion, I'm just explaining myself. Spartian is not coming back, at most I gave him false hope.
19:58.26ImperiosAnother idea was to keep her a demonic creature but make her more of a Satan-like figure
19:59.11XhoThat would be difficult since there's a lot of demonic satans in the Fantasyverse
19:59.17XhoMost of them mine but still
19:59.21ImperiosSatan as in "tempter/seducer", not "rawr imma kill everything"
19:59.39ImperiosI mean Caligaduro is not very tempting
19:59.51ImperiosCats are generally more tempting and seductive than giant demon things
20:00.11Hachiman>Implying you'd put your dick in a cat
20:00.33XhoCaligaduro turned a storm god to his side, I'd say that's pretty tempting
20:10.27ImperiosHachiman: What kind of cat
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20:12.37DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
20:13.28ImperiosXho: Didn't he just physically corrupt him though
20:24.46XhoPhysically, mentally
20:25.21XhoThere's a reason why those who follow him are drawn to his power
20:25.30TechnobliteratorNew Forum post
20:25.42XhoIf Caligaduro wasn't masterful at tempting and manipulating then no one would follow him since he's pretty much super satan
20:25.42TechnobliteratorPlease read
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20:27.42ImperiosAh meh
20:28.17ImperiosI think that a Scottish Boudicca catgirl is better than a Satanic catgirl anyway
20:28.28ImperiosWith a huge sword, too
20:28.53XhoI was about to say a William Wallace quote but that's like 1200 years after Boudicca
20:32.28Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZmKEf-AYhJE God that's like a TF2/Wildstar mix
20:32.31ImperiosSo dum
20:35.53Tek0516I found an image we can probably get rid of.
20:37.16Tek0516France.jpeg; unused and it's smaller and lower quality than the current Flag of France.png
20:39.58XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH4T3Zq1eQQ
20:40.41TechnobliteratorFor the record, if I get no comments on the forum, I will view it as no on disagreeing and will just remove infobot anyway
20:42.41DrodoEmpireI'm posting now
20:43.36DrodoEmpirePosted.
20:43.50DrodoEmpireIn all, I see your points Tech but I disagree with your propositions.
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20:44.48TechnobliteratorWho is OdelSpeedster?
20:45.38DrodoEmpireI'm not certain
20:45.47DrodoEmpireHe seems to have been around for a while
20:45.50DrodoEmpireWhy do you ask>
20:45.53DrodoEmpire*?
20:47.04DrodoEmpireAh
20:47.06DrodoEmpireNow i see
20:47.10TechnobliteratorI want to know who he is on IRC so that I can respond to him
20:47.34DrodoEmpireAlso I'll be editing my message to add a few extra points; Just a heads up
20:47.41Tek0516IIRC that is also his IRC name.
20:47.49TechnobliteratorOkay, I won't reply yet then
20:48.03dromAwh, monet is not here.
20:48.05TechnobliteratorBut anyway, there are *several* ways to replicate Infobot and make the logs private ourselves
20:48.12dromOtherwise, I drew something... http://i.imgur.com/aFfYIgs.jpg
20:48.26dromThe right arm needs a touchup though.
20:48.42DrodoEmpireWell I disagree with making the logs private or only accessable to a few; And if people keep their own then this removal becomes redundant
20:48.59Wormy__I've replied
20:49.23TechnobliteratorIf people keep their own, then this removal creates the desired outcome
20:49.32DrodoEmpireAnd then there's the possibility that people may be able to edit their private logs they keep or for them to become corrupted otherwise
20:49.35TechnobliteratorThat logs are no longer publicly viewable  by randomers
20:49.36DrodoEmpireWhy would it be?
20:49.47DrodoEmpireWhy should be scared by some random people?
20:49.51DrodoEmpire:P
20:49.59DrodoEmpireOr be scared by people having a look?
20:50.11TechnobliteratorI shall continue this discussion on the forum
20:50.23DrodoEmpire(Actually I didn't make any edits, nevermind)
20:50.52dromAfter a little merasurements, the arms don't need touchups.
20:50.54XhoI don't care about this to be honest
20:51.01XhoIt's all overreacting everywhere again
20:51.20TechnobliteratorNo, it's removing the overreactions or preventing them occurring
20:51.31XhoAs if anyone actually reads the logs
20:52.03DrodoEmpireI say that the logs are a stability issue or a source of paranoia is an *extreme* overstatement
20:52.07DrodoEmpiretbh
20:52.44TechnobliteratorXho, that was my attitude for a long while too, but having received so many complaints, I find them counterproductive
20:52.51DrodoEmpireThe logs are useful to quote old segments and few actually read them otherwise; I see no reason to remove them seeing as a few of the more dramatic problems you said they caused do not in fact exist/
20:53.12XhoComplaints of what
20:53.24DrodoEmpireMaking them private or having people keep their own would not solve the supposed "stability issues" or paranoia
20:53.29Tek0516I haven't seen these paranoia or overreaction issues? Are they really such a problem.
20:53.33DrodoEmpireIn fact it may increase such feeling
20:53.39TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, as I have already said, this discussion is to be moved to the forum
20:53.41DrodoEmpireTek: They aren't. I've never seen them mentioned
20:53.54DrodoEmpireI did post there.
20:54.01Wormy__Actually I have redited my post
20:54.02TechnobliteratorAnd I am replying there
20:54.12DrodoEmpireYet you're also talking to Xho about this matter, why can't I?
20:54.26XhoDrodo has a point
20:54.35TechnobliteratorI shouldn't be talking to him about it either
20:54.51XhoBut still
20:54.54XhoComplaints of what
20:54.55TechnobliteratorI wouldn't if what I wanted to reply with wasn't so small
20:55.40DrodoEmpireThe conversation seems to be rather long; This isn't very "small", to be honest
20:55.44DrodoEmpireAnyway
20:55.51Xho...complaints of what
20:55.55DrodoEmpire^
20:56.00Tek0516^
20:56.18DrodoEmpireI agree with Xho, anyhow; You never gave any source for these problems they pose, or the complaints you've been receiving.
20:56.43TechnobliteratorAs I have already said, this discussion is being moved to the forum. I will not reply to or read any comments made here.
20:56.48XhoI think infobot should stay
20:57.01XhoIf users are gonna get offended with the content on it I'll just say man the fuck up
20:57.02DrodoEmpireBecause why?
20:57.08Wormy__Actually I agree now totally
20:57.15DrodoEmpireWith who Wormy?
20:57.35HachimanLeft a comment
20:57.37Wormy__We must cherish the free and open market of ideas.  Read my reply or press F5
20:58.16TechnobliteratorI've pressed F5, I'm responding to everything now
20:58.19Wormy__I was unsure before but now I think I oppose
20:59.57XhoThis
21:00.00XhoIs really stupid
21:00.40XhoWe're going to discuss removing infobot because one user (who's banned) doesn't like what he sees on the logs
21:01.09TechnobliteratorXho, my reasoning for removing infobot goes far and beyond Spartian's comment
21:01.12Wormy__No, its built up from my conversation with Monet
21:01.21TechnobliteratorAnd from that discussion too.
21:01.39Wormy__Not that I think infobot should be removed.  Rather people should be mindful what they post
21:01.45DrodoEmpire^
21:01.48Wormy__publically
21:01.52DrodoEmpireI haven't seen him spammed in ages
21:01.59Xhopublicly*
21:02.01XhoSorry had to do that
21:02.04Wormy__lol
21:02.17ImperiosTechnobliterator: Responded
21:02.17Wormy__I can actually spell when I'm not typing so fast
21:03.04XhoThis is almost nanny stating the wiki though
21:03.55Wormy__yes
21:03.57Wormy__ngh
21:04.18Wormy__Its like when chavs knock down the bin so much the council stops putting them back
21:04.32Wormy__I can think of better examples probably
21:05.20TechnobliteratorResponded
21:05.37Tek0516When I do use infobot it the ~test serves legitimate purpose. Firstly to check if I'm still connected in an empty chat, and also as a way of indicating I'm still there without making random messages or saying hello randomlym
21:06.49HachimanYou can just PM the infobot to do that
21:07.03Wormy__Actually I remember.  When I was a kid, this pub had rusty tractors and engines that kids could play on, I had great fun.  One day one kid hurt themselves so the pub to remove the entire playground.  >>Nanny State for you.
21:07.37TechnobliteratorYou can PM infobot for that, or we can just make our own version which has all the functions and doesn't allow for abuse
21:07.46Wormy__Tek:  I test on a seperate channel because I hate people saying "tset"
21:08.20TechnobliteratorFurthermore, our own version would give us a lot more freedom and when we input commands for it to remember, they would be SporeWiki-specific commands, instead of Infobot's generic ones
21:08.37Tek0516Like I said I only doing it here when the channel is quiet (especially if it drops suddenly), otherwise I do use infobot.
21:09.01Wormy__Does any of us actually know enough programming to make a bot though?  Lets be real.
21:09.09Wormy__for IRC
21:09.10Technobliterator...
21:09.13Technobliteratoras a matter of fact, I do.
21:09.23TechnobliteratorAnd if I can't, we have Morgoth
21:09.32HachimanShe doesn't spend all her time in the kitchen doing nothing
21:09.36HachimanSurprisingly
21:09.37Technobliterator:o
21:09.39Wormy__I know some programming languages but applied to completely different things
21:10.00dromI'm up for that. But it'll be a slow start cause I don't know Py.
21:10.11TechnobliteratorPython is easy as hell
21:10.27XhoWell
21:10.33XhoLet the forum decide first
21:10.36TechnobliteratorI do feel like alot of people are opposing the removal of Infobot ignoring half of what I said about how we can just replicate it
21:10.49Imperiosrite we can
21:10.54ImperiosTechnobliterator: One thing though
21:11.01TechnobliteratorMost people seem to have responded to the title, not to the post
21:11.02Imperioswill our old logs be saved?
21:11.09XhoWe're opposing the removal of Infobot simply because it's not worth removing it
21:11.14TechnobliteratorThey will, we won't take them down
21:11.26TechnobliteratorIf we wanted to, we can host them somewhere else
21:11.27dromImperios: I'm afraid that we have to manually move one after one.
21:11.52ImperiosWell TBH having our own bot WOULD be a sensible decision
21:12.03TechnobliteratorI have been working on that for some time
21:12.16TechnobliteratorNot only that, but it would replace morgothbot's functions, and code up RPs
21:12.17XhoPerhaps but I don't see it being necessary if people don't find it necessary to remove infobot
21:12.18dromthere's java bots for IRC too
21:12.35ImperiosInfobot is an "alien" entity and having a bot we can program and control more transparently would be a good step forward
21:12.43ImperiosI mean where did it even come from
21:12.46ImperiosDid Morgoth install it:
21:12.48Imperios?
21:13.00TechnobliteratorHe did, it's used on tons of other channels as well
21:13.32ImperiosErgo using our own independent bot would fix a lot of problems
21:14.02dromHow about we create a team and get started then?
21:14.13TechnobliteratorWe have already got started
21:14.15XhoBut
21:14.15ImperiosJust so long as we can ~cuddle
21:14.20XhoWhy are we ignoring the forum
21:14.21TechnobliteratorMorgoth hosts it on github
21:14.28Imperios~throw Technobliterator into the kitchen
21:14.28infobotACTION winds up and throws Technobliterator into the kitchen over the moon.
21:14.49TechnobliteratorWe are not ignoring the forum, the forum is ignoring a lot of the OP
21:15.01Wormy__Erm there has been no mutual agreement.
21:15.02XhoFrom your point of view perhaps
21:15.06dromTechnobliterator: Good. Now, go and make us sandviches.
21:15.09TechnobliteratorIf you want me to change the title because it has the incorrect implications, then I will
21:15.24XhoI still oppose the idea of a new bot as well
21:15.31XhoNo point to it
21:15.33TechnobliteratorFor...what purpose?
21:16.03TechnobliteratorIt's not like it's detrimental, or like it's even that difficult to do
21:16.11XhoPurpose being that we don't use Infobot much and the new bot would follow suit
21:16.41Wormy__I utterly oppose the idea of making the logs private or deleting them for reasons argued.  However, I don't oppose a new bot as long as the logs stay open.  But get it working before we get rid of infobot.
21:16.43Technobliteratorif we don't use infobot much, then why is it a problem if we remove it?
21:17.24DrodoEmpireWell I use it a lot for the "~seen" command, is the thing
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21:17.28DrodoEmpireWhich is useful
21:17.28Wormy__In fact most of the commenters oppose private logs it seems
21:17.29Knight_AlienHello
21:17.30dromMe too.
21:17.37TechnobliteratorSeen is useless
21:17.38Wormy__me too
21:17.43Wormy__No its not
21:17.43DrodoEmpireOh? How so?
21:17.56XhoCan we just like
21:18.01Wormy__I used it earlier to find out what my last comment was before timing out
21:18.02XhoShut up and pretend this never happened
21:18.06TechnobliteratorIt is based purely on an IRC nick, reliant totally on someone a) using the same IRC nick and b) commenting on this particular channel
21:18.17DrodoEmpireSo? That's all I need to know
21:18.26XhoIt's come out of a completely and utterly stupid discussion and has formed an equally useless idea
21:18.27Wormy__You can seen ~seen from other channels though
21:18.41DrodoEmpireI know the nicks and alternate nicks of the people I use the command for and I only care if they've been on this channel lately
21:18.41dromchannels with infobot installed, yes
21:18.55Wormy__well duh
21:19.06DrodoEmpireSo its pretty useful to me
21:19.07DrodoEmpire:P
21:19.09TechnobliteratorIf you are suggesting we incorporate seen in the new bot, then fine
21:19.10Wormy__But that is two of the channels I use and most of us are only one one or two
21:19.19DrodoEmpireA new bot is redundant
21:19.26TechnobliteratorIn...what way?
21:19.40DrodoEmpireIf you want to put in the hours to make a new bot, with the same general purpose, then go ahead.
21:19.45dromI think I have to be conversative tonight for now.
21:19.46DrodoEmpireBut it'll still be redundant
21:19.49Wormy__Look, the infobot issue is beside the real point.  The real point is how open we want our logs.
21:19.50DrodoEmpire:P
21:19.54dromconservative*
21:19.59DrodoEmpireWormy: that's a main issue for me
21:20.03DrodoEmpire*the
21:20.04TechnobliteratorSo...you've completely ignored everything we've discussed for a while now?
21:20.33Wormy__Or has our point been ignored?  Thats a bit relative.
21:20.44DrodoEmpireI have been elsewhere, yes; I suppose I should apologize for putting in my opinion./
21:20.45DrodoEmpire:P
21:20.52Wormy__I'm pretty sure the discussion started on the openness of the logs.
21:21.15XhoThis sounds almost like a vanity project to be honest
21:21.17TechnobliteratorWe *already* have half a bot completed, it is *not that hard* to do, it gives us *infinitely more control over it and allows more SporeWiki personalisation*, the list goes on
21:21.26Wormy__Nobody is talking about that here.
21:21.38DrodoEmpireVery well then. Implement it.
21:21.49DrodoEmpireI just don't see how different or better it could be
21:21.56DrodoEmpireBut if you are confident it is; Then by all means
21:22.03XhoAt least Drodo and I are on the same wavelength
21:22.38dromWell. I admit that I'm on the same wavelength, even if I'm interested to develop one.
21:22.39DrodoEmpire^
21:23.04Wormy__I don't think this part of the discussion is very important.  What is important is what I keep reminding
21:23.34Wormy__If we did have a new bot, are we having open logs or not?
21:23.35DrodoEmpireNow i believe the opinion of nthe community is decidedly against the proposal; Perhaps we should set a date or time at which this discussion is over, and we come to a conclusion?
21:23.37TechnobliteratorThe thing is, replace infobot's functions or not, I was going to do it anyway
21:23.50DrodoEmpire"For and against" vote at a certain time after discussion?
21:24.05DrodoEmpireJust so we don't let this argument spiral out of control
21:24.11DrodoEmpireAnd never reach a conclusion
21:24.28TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, I'm planning to resolve the discussion in due time
21:24.36DrodoEmpireDo yuo have a date in mind?
21:24.39DrodoEmpire*you
21:24.47DrodoEmpireOr time?
21:24.48TechnobliteratorNo, but this forum was posted only  an hour ago
21:24.58Tek0516Commented.
21:25.05TechnobliteratorThat you can say we "are decidedly against the proposal" after an hour is premature
21:25.20Technobliteratorwell, uh
21:25.30TechnobliteratorI mean it's a premature conclusion to draw
21:25.42DrodoEmpireI mean so far.
21:26.09DrodoEmpireSo perhaps so; But I personally hold doubt that the tide may turn.
21:26.13Wormy__For the record, I don't care about infobot.  But the new but must a) be less easily abused  b) I'd like the logs open at least to users and up
21:26.29Wormy__*but the new bot
21:26.31DrodoEmpireI haven't seen it "abused" in ages; Its no longer a problem imo
21:26.40DrodoEmpireBut safeguards would be nice
21:27.03Wormy__That is what I mean.
21:27.05TechnobliteratorThat people are continuing to ignore or dodge the OP is upsetting
21:27.17DrodoEmpire"ignore" it?
21:27.17Wormy__What do you mean?
21:27.20DrodoEmpire"Dodge" it?
21:27.22DrodoEmpireHow so?
21:27.26XhoI'm close to just saying "Shut up everyone and leave this stupid thing alone"
21:27.28TechnobliteratorMost people defend its existence because they are defending the functions it has
21:27.34Tek0516How are we "dodging" it?
21:27.52ImperiosTechnobliterator: Maybe logs should only be opened to the select fiew?
21:27.54TechnobliteratorHalf the OP was basically stating that we can just replicate them all
21:27.55Imperios*few
21:27.59Tek0516The issue here seems to be logging, not the functions.
21:28.04DrodoEmpire^
21:28.07DrodoEmpireIts the IRC logs
21:28.08ImperiosLike, you have to spend at least some time here to be accepted
21:28.09TechnobliteratorLogging is one of the functions
21:28.22dromWe need the logging.
21:28.26TechnobliteratorImperios, I would support that, but it needs discussion/consensus first
21:28.31DrodoEmpireImperios: I highly disagree; I think its important that everyone has access
21:28.42ImperiosLike, everyone who is at least as experienced and accepted as drom
21:28.44TechnobliteratorAnd again, half the OP was saying about how it doesn't matter if we remove the logs
21:28.54DrodoEmpireIts a silly doube-standard
21:28.59TechnobliteratorYou can log it yourselves and there will be no negative consequences
21:29.01ImperiosI like logs personally
21:29.08DrodoEmpireTech: again, no.
21:29.26dromSounds too far silly for me, sorry.
21:29.37Tek0516The main argument for removing logs is that you can create your own, yet that is absolutely redundant if we have a bot dojng it.
21:29.37TechnobliteratorNothing is silly about it
21:30.02DrodoEmpire3, 4 against, 2, 3 for. At best we're even; At worst the opinion's against you
21:30.06HachimanThe fact that you can record your own information without having to wade through tons of crap?
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21:30.19XhoThis whole discussion is a ton of crap
21:30.27Wormy_What was my last comment?
21:30.28DrodoEmpire"I know; But this would make the removal and restriction to admins-only totally redundant as now I, a regular user, have them too. On top of that, lets just say I wanted to twist someone's quote to use against them; Less scrupulous users could do that too and, as long as no admins where around, appear very convincing."
21:30.37DrodoEmpireA quote from me
21:31.10Wormy_I proposed making the logs open only to registered IRC users and having the passwords changed if we are suspicious they have been leaked
21:31.13DrodoEmpireSomeone could use their own logs to intentionally misquote and, without anyone with offical logging priviledges they'd be hard to disprove.
21:31.39TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, who said no one would have "official logging priviledges"?
21:31.43DrodoEmpirePlus keeping private logs makes admin-only logs, again, reduntant.
21:31.47DrodoEmpire*redundant
21:31.51Tek0516^^^^^
21:31.56DrodoEmpireI mean, people with access to the logs.
21:31.58XhoAgree
21:31.58Wormy_I think its unfair
21:31.58DrodoEmpiretech.
21:32.01TechnobliteratorAn IRC channel with no one logging them at all is an absurd channel
21:32.11TechnobliteratorI never said remove *all* logs
21:32.15DrodoEmpireWormy: Agreed
21:32.21DrodoEmpireThat's not what I am saying either!
21:32.28dromXho: So. Should I put a video of "Hitler finds out" from the Downfall?
21:32.33XhoDrom: Yes
21:32.33TechnobliteratorAnd this is why I think IRC discussion is useless for these things
21:32.41DrodoEmpireI mean giving access to the logs to only few like admins is silly and unfair
21:32.42XhoWell
21:32.45DrodoEmpireAnd makes misquoting easier
21:32.53XhoSuffice to say I think this discussion should end right now
21:32.57Technobliteratorit's just a bunch of rapidly typing and misinterpretting one another, followed by useless "^" or "agree" comments
21:32.58DrodoEmpire^
21:33.00XhoBecause, well, there's no reason for it
21:33.05dromIt's getting on my nerves.
21:33.08DrodoEmpireNot really tech
21:33.16DrodoEmpireNow yes, we should stop
21:33.21Wormy_Well I agree all wiki decisions should be made on SporeWiki
21:33.24DrodoEmpireThis'll devolve into a flamewar
21:33.30dromPLEASE, STOP SAYING THE SAME ARGURMENT OVER AND OVER
21:33.31HachimanI think it already has
21:33.35TechnobliteratorI'm not flaming anyone.
21:33.36Xho^
21:33.38Xhohih
21:33.45dromDifferent sentence, same shit.
21:33.47HachimanThis has already gone beyond debate territory
21:33.50Wormy_This is quite a reasonable discussion.
21:33.53DrodoEmpireI never said you where, Tech...
21:33.59DrodoEmpireI said it will become one soon
21:34.02DrodoEmpireAre you misreading?
21:34.11HachimanDrodo that's enough
21:34.17DrodoEmpireIts an honest question
21:34.19DrodoEmpireBut I agree
21:34.20Xhohttps://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mejhcusO7C1qmte6so1_500.gif This discussion
21:34.22Wormy_That could easily be misread as "you will cause a flamewar" :P
21:34.23DrodoEmpireMore than enough
21:34.28dromDoes Freenode have a gag command?
21:34.31TechnobliteratorFor the record, I have better things to be doing right now
21:34.45dromI mean, IRC in general to silence users.
21:34.51DrodoEmpireLike who? :P
21:34.54XhoThere is but we don't use it
21:34.55TechnobliteratorAnd yes, yes it does
21:34.59TechnobliteratorI can use it now
21:35.00Wormy_Anyway, funny story.  When I reconnected my Captcha thing said "disconnected"
21:35.31dromI declare this dicussion, dead.
21:36.05XhoGood, shouldn't have started in the first place
21:36.09DrodoEmpire^
21:37.49dromThanks for being mature, gentlemen.
21:38.38Technobliteratorahem
21:38.55dromAnd lad(ies).
21:39.19Technobliterator:o
21:40.40Technobliteratorand now, I must setup my new PC
21:40.50dromcool
21:41.36Wormy_I shall ha\ve my dinner
21:41.42Technobliteratorurgh, I wish I kept my Linux install disc
21:41.48TechnobliteratorI need it more than ever right now
21:41.57Wormy_Also, I shall post the 3D galaxy renderings tomorrow
21:42.17Tek0516Cool
21:43.08dromI posted this earlier at the wrong time. I'll take the opporunity to post it again. http://i.imgur.com/aFfYIgs.jpg
21:43.36Wormy_Good posture and head
21:43.43Wormy_Whats it for
21:43.50DrodoEmpire"TOY STORY 4 CONFIRMED; THE SEQUEL LITERALLY NO ONE WANTED AND NO ONE REALLY EXPECTED, BUT IT'S HAPPENING."
21:43.59dromWell. Just a random humanoid alien.
21:44.10Wormy_I knew Toy Story 4 was coming somehow
21:44.31Knight_AlienNo....Toy story 4 should never have come.
21:44.56Wormy_why
21:45.13dromI was thinking to use it as a static image of an alien race in my hobby Unity C# game. But I guess it will take a long while before it gets finished. So don't have expections yet.
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21:45.47Knight_AlienBecause 3 mostly Ended it.
21:46.16Knight_AlienNow Disney is useing Cash Grab Abilities.
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21:47.05Wormy__Why?
21:47.14drom<Knight_Alien> Because 3 mostly Ended it.
21:47.14drom<Knight_Alien> Now Disney is useing Cash Grab Abilities.
21:47.48Wormy__As long as there is interest and money to be made, the franchise must go on
21:47.56Knight_AlienI posted to wrong person  -__
21:48.32Wormy__Its like Doctor Who, the Doctor originally had 13 incarnations, now he can have many more
21:48.36dromWormy__: Here another explaination of my drawing: I was thinking to use it as a static image of an alien race in my hobby Unity C# game. But I guess it will take a long while before it gets finished. So don't have expections yet.
21:48.45dromIn case you missed it.
21:48.52Wormy__I did
22:06.59TechnobliteratorI cannot say I saw the day I would be setting up Windows
22:07.02Technobliterator8
22:07.07Xhohoh
22:08.22Tek0516Lop
22:08.25Tek0516^lol
22:08.41TechnobliteratorI don't think I'll keep it for long, but who knows
22:08.53TechnobliteratorI'm told 8.1 is far better than 8
22:08.58Tek0516Just long enough to reinstall Linux?
22:09.39TechnobliteratorThat's what I'm thinking
22:09.40Tek0516I never really noticed much difference with 8.1, just a button to take me to the start menu no one ever uses.
22:10.16TechnobliteratorTek0516, how do you open the terminal in Windows?
22:10.33Tek0516Terminal?
22:10.36Technobliteratorhas no idea how to execute python commands in non-Linux
22:10.41Tek0516Oh.
22:11.06Technobliterator...wow, it booted into the desktop first
22:11.19Tek0516Oh yeah, and that.
22:12.00dromPredator 2 has alot of action. Probably too much action.
22:12.38Tek0516Not sure on the terminal thing.
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22:18.26DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10176083_386873621467524_81795638604570618_n.jpg?oh=750d9318362fd0b6457e3be0bb4cff15&oe=54D893C7&__gda__=1424985542_66ecb084d7ada40b61faedbd646a29b7 - Mongol Empire in 1785
22:18.36DrodoEmpire*Still using Nomad tech group*
22:18.49DrodoEmpireThat's probably the most astonishing part for me. XD
22:19.04Tek0516...that Portugal. O.o
22:19.32DrodoEmpireIt is objectively the worst tech group in the game; Yet he made one of the largest empires in the save with it
22:19.40DrodoEmpirelol
22:19.51DrodoEmpireI don't even want to know how they pulled that off
22:19.53Tek0516Must of inherited Russia.
22:20.04DrodoEmpireProbably
22:20.27Tek0516Based on displayed DLC this is several versions ago.
22:20.47ImpyDroidWait
22:20.57ImpyDroidWhy is Spain in the Far East?
22:21.07DrodoEmpireGood question.
22:21.58DrodoEmpireProbably colonized straight through across North America/Inherited British/French colonies already across North America there and sailed there
22:22.15DrodoEmpireThat, or they inherited far eastern colonies like Portugal must've.
22:22.41Tek0516That ahistorical bit happened a lot in older versions.
22:23.28ImpyDroidWell
22:23.53DrodoEmpireAnd to be honest, EUIV goes off the rails the second you begin the game. XD That said ridiculous stuff like that has been curbed in recent updates so its alternate history, but more within the constraints of reality
22:24.24DrodoEmpireIn the first version someone took over the entire planet with Ryukyu; A tiny, one-province nation south of Japan
22:25.14Tek0516Someone still did it a version ago though
22:25.19DrodoEmpireAh
22:25.33DrodoEmpireYeah; Its nearly impossible to pull off but is possible
22:25.36Tek0516Though he plays gamey as heck.
22:25.41DrodoEmpire^
22:25.55DrodoEmpireYou have to exploit a *lot* of glitches and other things to do it
22:26.36Tek0516His next game exploited stacking modifiers to have negative naval maintenance.
22:26.42DrodoEmpireThe average player usually manages to build an empire that is feasible historically
22:26.49DrodoEmpireEven if highly unlikely
22:26.57DrodoEmpireTek: Yeah you where telling me
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22:41.58Liquid_InkHello all
22:43.25DrodoEmpireHello
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22:52.19XhoJust saw this existential phenomenon
22:52.23XhoLego Minecraft
22:52.25XhoSo
22:52.31DrodoEmpirewat
22:52.46XhoYou're building a scene using bricks of a scene that uses blocks to build block buildings
22:52.51Liquid_InkYou haven't come across Lego minecraft yet?
22:53.08Liquid_InkI have three sets of it beside me as we speak.
22:53.12XhoI'm nearly 20, I don't think my life accommodates for toys any more
22:53.22Liquid_InkI pity for you.
22:53.26Liquid_Inkhttps://33.media.tumblr.com/4c37612e0c30d76b6ca4c990fa240767/tumblr_nekwayQ9kk1rlpicfo1_1280.jpg
22:53.45XhoMy toys are mainly guitars and stuff relating to that
22:55.56XhoThough I probably won't be buying anything musical instrument related for a long while now
22:56.12XhoGot to pay off for the rest of my car which is about £3100 left
23:01.22Liquid_InkWhen I capture the leader of Al Qaeda, Clint Eastwood style, and get the reward I'll help pay it off. Then supply you with Lego Minecraft.
23:02.19XhoRight
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23:07.27Wormy_hi+
23:10.09TekDroidHello
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23:23.59dromOh lookie! Another drawing! http://i.imgur.com/lycu1NI.jpg
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23:42.57TekDroid~test
23:42.57infobotmethinks test is not funny
23:43.07dromWormy_: C? http://i.imgur.com/lycu1NI.jpg
23:43.45TekDroidThat's a cool sketch.
23:45.12Wormy_Tis indeed good
23:49.20dromdake
23:49.22dromdanke*

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