IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141030

00:01.38MonetHowever by the end of my first term the closest I came was a site survey of an existing building, knowledge of the basics and designing attachments.
00:07.57Wormy_fictionCan anyone tell me how they installed patch 5 if they moved Spore?
00:08.15Wormy_fictionDoing it from the website just installs Origin
00:08.28Wormy_fictionAnd I don't want Origin anyway
00:09.23Tek0516I swear at least one patch did require Origin.
00:09.39Tek0516Only reason I even had it on my PC.
00:09.54Wormy_fictionOkay, looks like I may have to install it *sigh*
00:10.13HachiSpookI got Patch 5 without installing Origin
00:10.19Wormy_fictionLast time I had Spore, EADM really annoyed me
00:10.28Tek0516Yeah.
00:10.31Wormy_fictionWhere did you get it from?
00:10.51Tek0516You can always uninstall Origin afterwards anyway.
00:10.57HachiSpookNot really sure, lemme think
00:11.13Wormy_fictionWould the patch still work?
00:11.46Tek0516No reason it wouldn't
00:12.50Tek0516I should really just uninstall Origin. Don't even know how it got on my new laptop.
00:13.33Wormy_fictiongrits his teeth and installs it
00:13.54Wormy_fictionWell, its better than getting adware off some file sharing site
00:14.32Wormy_fictionactually, it is adware
00:14.52Monetloltrue
00:14.58MonetBut safe adware
00:15.05Wormy_fictionALast time I had EADM, it would send me annoying advert pop ups whenever I played Spore
00:15.31MonetI never really got that playing using Origin.
00:15.46Tek0516I think I have the EA start-up stuff disabled.
00:15.54Wormy_fictionmaybe its improved since EADM
00:18.34Wormy_fictionI fancy sending Will Wright a message about the fiverse
00:19.01Wormy_fictionHe used to know about SporeWiki, inviting hydromancerx to GC and then doing an interview with us
00:19.05Wormy_fictionGDC
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00:20.28MonetHi
00:20.38MonetWormy_fiction: THat's an impressive offer.
00:21.05MonetMaybe you should let him know its still going
00:21.19Tek0516I know we got linked on the Spore website at one point.
00:21.22Wormy_fictionWell he is on twitter.  I remember him once saying he hoped Spore could inspire people to go beyond it, and we kind of have
00:21.41Tek0516We have, even all these years later
00:21.53Wormy_fictionhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AWill_Wright_talks_Spore_MMO_and_Cloning
00:22.15Wormy_fictionhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Will_Wright_talks_Spore_MMO_and_Cloning/full_interview
00:22.25MonetSpore is probably the catalyst for me doing the course I am
00:22.46Wormy_fictionPeople who got answered recei3ved posters
00:22.55Wormy_fictionsigned by Will
00:24.07Wormy_fictionUh oh
00:24.16Wormy_fictionI had to create an account on Origin
00:24.37Wormy_fictionApparentely my email has alreay been registered
00:25.03Wormy_fictionI reckon someones hacked it
00:25.18Tek0516It's your Spore account too iirc.
00:25.36Wormy_fictionnope, I used a different one, I could use that though
00:25.40Wormy_fictionAhj
00:25.45Wormy_fictionhm
00:25.57Wormy_fictionIt might be what I used on EADM and can't remember
00:25.59MonetYeah.
00:26.08MonetYour SPore account should also now be your EA account
00:26.18Wormy_fictionright
00:26.29Wormy_fictionI'll stick my Spore account in
00:27.30Wormy_fictionNope
00:28.28Wormy_fictionI'm stuck
00:28.40Wormy_fictionMy Spore account won't log me in
00:28.55Wormy_fictionI can't actually create one from my current email
00:29.21Wormy_fictionstuff EA
00:29.44Tek0516Is there a forgot you password option?
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00:31.00Wormy_fictionAre you sure Origin would have my Spore account listed.  All I know is that I had EADM on my old PC, I can't remember if I ever created an account on it.  My Spore login should be right because it logged me into Spore straight away.
00:32.06DrodoEmpireI'm scared to make EUIV events now.
00:32.15DrodoEmpireMean Time To Happen is scary.
00:32.21DrodoEmpireScary maths.
00:32.46Tek0516Aye.
00:33.06MonetWormy_fiction: What's interesting about the GTA games is that in multiplayer, there can be a layer of creativity. I remember palying GTA V recently and one mission I had to drive a car to a garage to make money out of it. However about 10 peopel o nthe map were doing this, so what one duy did was he stood on the roof above the goal door and shot anyone who drove up. THen took the car
00:33.26Monet10 people, one car. One cash reward
00:33.40Tek0516O.o
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00:33.41DrodoEmpireEh, I'll see what the MTTH is on comparable scenarios and do something like that
00:33.48OfficerJackalInternet dum
00:34.00Wormy_fictionRight i think some fucktastic cunt has used my email address to create an account on Origin
00:34.15MonetI fell for his trap even though he jumped form the roof and spent a few seconds on his face while I tried to run him over sort-of
00:34.22DrodoEmpireI understand the basic idea of course; Though the math behind it is pretty complex; That or I just hate maths.
00:34.24DrodoEmpireWhich I do
00:34.33DrodoEmpireWormy: Ouch... :L
00:34.55MonetMy plan didn't work, he killed me and watched as he drove my car into the garage
00:34.59Wormy_fictionCool
00:35.17Tek0516Worny_fiction: Can you use the forgot password option?
00:35.39DrodoEmpireI'm gonna try making events for my other mod I have going; A joke mod that parodies Call of Duty Trickshotting (yes, Trick*shotting*) clans.
00:35.50DrodoEmpireSHOTTIN
00:35.52DrodoEmpire*SHOTTING
00:35.56DrodoEmpireFUCKING SHOTTING
00:35.59Tek0516O.o
00:36.03DrodoEmpireGAAAAAHHH
00:36.26Tek0516trickshoots DrodoEmpire
00:36.46Wormy_fictionRight
00:36.53Wormy_fictionLets not jump to conclusions
00:36.54DrodoEmpiredoes a 1080 quickscope and lands a hitmarker on Tek
00:36.55MonetThen there was another time where some jerks killed me in my car, then killed me every time I ran back ot my car. Eventually they let me take my car away...after they'd blown the tyres and smaked its chassis with a baseball bat until it looked like a crushed snail and was smoking.
00:37.09DrodoEmpirethen explodes with rage and throws his Xbox across the room.
00:37.11Wormy_fictionPerhaps I did create an account on EADM with my email
00:37.26Wormy_fictionSo I shall try restiing password
00:37.32Wormy_fictionsomehow
00:37.33DrodoEmpireI have a few friends who do it so that's why I know this stuff...
00:38.11MonetWho says GTA isn't creative
00:38.39MonetI've even been diced by weaponsied helicopter blades
00:39.11MonetIts REALLY dangerous to pull off but must be really satisfying for anyone who does it
00:39.20DrodoEmpireOkay, time to read up on events and make some
00:39.59DrodoEmpireI have a few in mind for this little mod I'm making...
00:40.30Wormy_fictionAnother option I have is to log in my my old desktop
00:40.50Wormy_fictionSounds like its creative for psychos
00:41.20Wormy_fictionwhich I will not bother with tonight as I will have to re-wire everything and that isn't fun
00:41.53MonetWormy_fiction: Probably but its still creativity and skill.
00:42.18MonetALso might be good creativity for threill-jockeys
00:42.25Monetthrill*
00:47.05Wormy_fictionOMG
00:47.21DrodoEmpireHm?
00:47.29Wormy_fictionMy captcha for resetting password on Origin is "sexerly"
00:47.37Tek0516O.o
00:50.36Wormy_fictionDidn't work anyway
00:51.32Wormy_fictionNgh
00:51.47Wormy_fictionI'm going to have to wire up my old PC, find out if I had EADM account
00:51.56Wormy_fictionAnd try that. cya
00:52.08Tek0516summons in intrawebz gods to assist Worny
00:52.15Tek0516*Wormy
00:52.17Wormy_fictionAll I wanted to do tonight was get patch 5 and make a damn creation
00:52.22Wormy_fictionthanks
00:52.37Tek0516O.o They killed him
00:53.18DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/14009_10152792060306605_1973913333527614843_n.jpg?oh=3fc328b61555ce68f11467a8651f8d10&oe=54F097FF&__gda__=1423838914_712914fa04c21faf24fdbe427cec6e09
00:54.48Tek0516Lol
00:55.17Tek0516I never understand that irrational vaccine fearmongering
00:55.34DrodoEmpire^
00:55.54DrodoEmpireIts idiotic, and thanks to it people are getting sick; Even dying
00:55.54HachiSpookShitty education and misinformation
00:56.03DrodoEmpire^
00:56.54MonetHere's a question Suzie: If Smallpox vaccination didn't work, how come it's extinct in the West?
00:57.33Tek0516And polio
00:58.48MonetAlthough it's pretty funny how she asks this and the picture we're shown i nthe comic is of Mexicans.
00:59.03MonetRacism bites back.
00:59.35Tek0516Aye
01:00.55MonetSimilarly, I found some pols conducted by Ipsos Mori earlier today that reveals that UK residents are..quite missinformed about certai nstatistics
01:01.43Monethttps://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3466/Perceptions-are-not-reality-Things-the-world-gets-wrong.aspx
01:02.28MonetPolled britons think that over 20% of all British residents re Muslims, in reality the figure is only about 5%
01:03.05MonetAnd while Brits think 1/4 of the country's population are immigrants, the real value is closer to 13%
01:05.21MonetOh dear me some of this is shocking
01:05.44MonetUS perception : 1 in 4 teenage girls become pregnant. I mean..what?
01:08.52MonetUS perception of the unemployment rate is that it is around the 30% mark...is that possible?
01:09.14MonetCan you have that many out of work and still have a functioning country?
01:09.38Tek0516Not really.
01:09.45MonetUK was only marginally better: 24% percieved, 7% reality
01:09.49Tek0516Great Depression was 25%.
01:10.17MonetYeah but in the Great Depression there were shanty towns in city parks
01:12.14DrodoEmpireAnd there would be too if the unemployment rate was 24%. :P What's your point?
01:13.26MonetAccording to the survey the unemployment rate in the US is only 6%
01:14.40MonetMy point is 30% sounds a bit high when afaik most US city parks are not shanty towns, and at best have maybe a few homeless people living in them.
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01:17.49MonetSo if the Great Depression had an employment rate lower than the average percpetion of what the employment rate is now...how come it doesn't quite feel like a second great depression?
01:18.13AngrybirdsBecause nobody is educated about history.
01:18.53MonetOkay i'll give you that one. I don't think I did anything about the Great Depression in secondary school
01:19.32MonetAnd only more recently did I read that stories of stockbrokers jumping from skyscraper windows was *compelte* bullcrap as opposed to "not sure if true"
01:21.50MonetA lot of people seem mroe ready to believe rumour or word-of-mouth than documented textbooks.
01:22.13MonetBut that might be a knock-on effect of the current mainstream teaching method
01:22.17Monetsmethods*
01:24.21MonetScience might be more popular if the institutional method was more than "read and copy fro mthis textbook"
01:24.35MonetScience should be about experimentation.
01:26.24MonetI think i'll go now. I may be getting into "that" kind of mood
01:28.23MonetGoodnight
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01:58.23Vampy-VinnyHey guys
02:01.01TekDroidHello
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02:06.08WormyvictoriousTekDroid:  I have returned Spore to her full glory
02:06.10Vampy-VinnyHEy Worm
02:06.20Vampy-VinnyWhere is your Halloween-name?
02:06.23TekDroidLol
02:06.45Vampy-VinnyDo you prefer Vampy-Vinny or Zombie-Vinny?
02:07.05WormyvictoriousI had to log onto me old machine, I found I was logged out of EADM, so what I did, was go into the EA patches folder, dragged them onto a drive and then replaced them on the new computer
02:07.16Wormyvictorious*my
02:07.27TekDroidO.o Lol
02:07.45WormyvictoriousNow I think I can get rid of Origin
02:07.52TekDroidYeah.
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02:11.32DrodoEmpireHey
02:11.44TekDroidHello
02:13.23Vampy-VinnyHey GD
02:15.36GD12hi
02:15.39GD12Vincent?
02:16.11Zombie-VinnyYah?
02:16.16Zombie-VinnyIt's my halloween-name
02:16.26Zombie-VinnyWhich one do you prefer?
02:17.09GD12Ebola-Vinny
02:17.22DrodoEmpirelul
02:18.04GD12oder
02:18.04EbolaEmpireMy nick is 2spooky
02:18.35TekDroidDrodoEmpire: New achievement - " Die Please Die - Have a Monarch with <2 in all stats reach age 80."
02:18.47DrodoEmpirehur
02:22.11TekDroidAlso auto-transport
02:22.43TekDroidAnd the death of warleader chains. XD
02:31.51WormyvictoriousOdere
02:32.00WormyvictoriousIt seems I have broken Spore again
02:32.19WormyvictoriousLuckily, this time I thought to put all the files Spore installed with onto a folder
02:32.28Wormyvictoriousso i can undo it
02:32.50WormyvictoriousCrashes when I try to access my creations
02:33.04GD12hey there
02:33.15Wormyvictorioushi
02:33.23WormyvictoriousHaving real trouble restoring Spore
02:35.31GD12that sucks
02:35.32GD12try steam?
02:40.18WormyvictoriousWell, I've installed Spore and its expansions, mamaged to put saved games on
02:40.41Wormy_My real problems have come with trying to get patch 5
02:41.15Wormy_I have found that I can't create an account on Origin as my email is already in use
02:41.22Wormy_Annoyingly
02:41.38Wormy_Either from a forgotten account on EADM or its stolen
02:41.55Wormy_So I went on my old computer, found I was logged out anyway
02:42.17Wormy_So I decided to move the patched file folders onto my new Spore
02:42.38GD12ahh i see
02:42.38Wormy_It almost works, until I open up sporepedia, and then it crashes#
02:42.43TekDroid:/
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02:45.10Wormy_Now it seems I save the new Spore folders properly
02:45.19Wormy_I might have to uninstall and reinstall
02:45.34Wormy_*I didn't save
02:45.47GD12that sucks
02:45.56GD12do you have your spore creations saved elsewhere?
02:47.26Wormy_Oh, I've got everything on my drive and old PC
02:47.44Wormy_I'm trying to transfer everything of my old game onto my new PC
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02:48.28Knight_AlienHi
02:48.30Wormy_I think I'm just going to reinstall everything tomorrow
02:48.52Wormy_I seem to have backed up some folders and not others
02:49.16GD12i see
02:49.19GD12best of luck
02:51.39Vampy-VinnyHey Knight
02:51.44Vampy-VinnyWe are on Katar too
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03:35.51TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/0NbMDhM.jpg Challenge: Find actual-scale Farengeto
03:35.54TekDroidHello
03:39.01TekDroidI feel so weak. XD
03:40.24Knight_AlienFound them.
03:43.41GD12found em
03:44.07TekDroidSo tiny. XD
03:45.06TekDroidNot sure if I really want all of Katar the right size. XD
03:48.46Vampy-VinnyTekDroid: Real sized is good
03:49.07Vampy-VinnyEven the small territory Faregento has on this map is still quite big
04:04.11GD12~tst
04:04.11infobotmethinks tst is tst
04:04.14GD12~test
04:04.14infoboti heard test is not funny
04:07.12TekDroidHello
04:07.35TekDroidUpdated the arm map http://i.imgur.com/CWgOvRZ.png
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11:35.19HachiSpookHai
11:35.24HachiSpook~glomp OluapWorker
11:35.25infobotACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapWorker
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11:36.19Knight_AlienHi
11:39.27ImpyDroidHello
11:39.50ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink: I found out recently that Karaçay is an actual place in Caucasus hur
11:40.35ImpyDroidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachay-Cherkessia dere
11:40.47ImpyDroidhttp://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara%C3%A7ay-%C3%87erkesya
11:43.24ImpyDroidHachiSpook: I searched for "why are british" in Google
11:43.39ImpyDroidThat the suggestions I got
11:43.42ImpyDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/stHA5yu.png
11:43.46Liquid_InkOh dear
11:43.52ImpyDroidApparently you are attractive and good at music
11:45.25Liquid_InkWhat am I?
11:45.39ImpyDroidlet me check
11:45.46ImpyDroidYou want Australian or Scottish?
11:46.29HachiSpookI can tell you know that those results are falsified
11:46.33HachiSpookBritish guys are neither attractive nor are we good at music for the most part
11:46.41HachiSpookOur pubs are closing though
11:46.50ImpyDroidhur
11:46.54ImpyDroidLiquid_Ink: http://i.imgur.com/qO1AjMx.png You are rude apparently
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11:52.32ImpyDroid2Liquid_Ink: http://i.imgur.com/qO1AjMx.png Wow that was rude, Bruce Diggers
11:54.44ImpyDroid2http://i.imgur.com/qN0Gnmc.png And I am an angry beautiful person
11:54.51ImpyDroid2Who is good at programming
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12:22.17AdmiralPandahello all
12:22.47ZomberiosLiquid_Ink: So about the Karaçay; do you think we could change their name then?
12:23.11OluapWorkerpondo
12:23.28OluapWorkerhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3049811/pub/PRPG%20Monsters.htm I found a veyr entertaining and useful tool
12:24.27Liquid_InkZOmerious: Maybe
12:24.34AdmiralPandaWhat is this tech-heresy? You whippersnappers and your online tools
12:24.47OluapWorkerGet on with the times grandpa
12:25.40AdmiralPandaI can do what that thing does with a piece of paper and a pencil just fine
12:26.08OluapWorkerBut I can't, so I welcome this thing a lot hur
12:26.53AdmiralPandaYeah true
12:27.12Zomberios> Badger ( Giant Fiendish Half-Black-Dragon Skeleton )                            CR 1/3
12:27.18ZomberiosGlorious
12:27.39OluapWorkerFull Mary Sue
12:27.41HachiSpookYeah that's one of the problems I'm seeing with this; the CR hur
12:28.03HachiSpook"Tesco cash machine mistakenly promises free erections" Well then
12:28.35Zomberioswair
12:28.41Zomberios1/3 CR
12:28.43ZomberiosWhy
12:29.10OluapWorkerprobably because it's a skeleton badger
12:42.25AdmiralPandait's CR 1/3 because he forgot to add additional hit dice
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12:43.37AdmiralPandaImpyDroid: it's 1/3 because you forgot to add more hit dice you dum
12:43.52AdmiralPandaso you got a 1st level badger with a crapton of racials
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12:44.08ImpyDroid2AdmiralPanda: rite
12:44.23OluapWorkerI don't really get racial hit dice
12:44.35OluapWorkerWhat are these supposed to be
12:48.07AdmiralPandabasically the same as level hit dice, except they aren't tied to a level
12:49.27OluapWorkerI see
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12:58.04OluapWorkerImpyDroid2: Do you know if you can play this saturday or not?
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12:58.38HachiSpookbrb
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13:02.56ImpyDroid3OluapPlayer: I'll know later this day
13:03.10OluapWorkerdum
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13:15.59Vincent20100Hey guy
13:19.58Hell_wormYay
13:20.08Hell_wormSpore has patched itsewlf to 5.1 this time
13:20.24Hell_wormFor some reason it didn't last
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13:29.29Hell_wormTek:  I've fixed Spore and got patch 5.1
13:29.35TekDroidHello
13:29.41TekDroidGreat!
13:30.14Hell_wormAfter reinstallation it updated ingame.  Didn't do this the first time, possibly because I tried to restore my saved games straight away and messed something up.
13:30.38Hell_wormI can't wait to import Spore creations to Maya
13:30.50TekDroidYeah, in-game update is an important one.
13:30.59Hell_wormIn fact as only me and Monet have Maya I think, I can do it on request
13:31.15TekDroidIs that even possible?
13:31.23Hell_wormhttp://www.spore.com/comm/tutorials/export_creatures
13:31.49TekDroidWoah. O.O
13:32.31Hell_wormSome people have figured it out for other creations
13:32.49Hell_wormIts awesome idea, it allows p[eople to go beyond the limits of the gamne
13:32.54TekDroidIf we ever did make a SporeWiki game I know what we'd want to use. XD
13:33.27TekDroidThat's pretty awesome though.
13:36.53TekDroidAlso I need drom here so he can tell me what time it is in Sweden. :P
13:38.14Vampy-VinnyArt of War is out today!
13:38.15Vampy-VinnyDRODO!
13:38.19Vampy-VinnyGet working!
13:38.30TekDroidHe's not here either. :P
13:39.09TekDroidEarliest projection estimate 20 minutes to release, others are over 4 hours.
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13:53.41TekDroidI'm not at my PC and I have to go any minute now.
13:54.19Vampy-VinnyDo it first!
13:54.35Vampy-VinnyUniversity isn't that important after all
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14:13.55HachiSpookThis dude that keeps trying to rubbish Oluap needs to sort his fucking attitude out
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14:22.55Vampy-VinnyHachi: Who?
14:23.19OluapWraithKid needs to get shrek'd
14:25.39HachiSpookThe first response was "Basically, shave your head so it's about as smooth as marble. Then become a monk."
14:25.41HachiSpookSo I asked on Facebook for suggestions since I'm considering getting my haircut
14:26.04HachiSpookDunno why I sent that back to front but meh
14:31.43AdmiralPandatopknot all the way
14:31.46AdmiralPandaembrace the weaboo
14:35.41HachiSpookI'd rather die hur
14:39.41AdmiralPandaWhy u no want topknot?
14:42.03HachiSpookBecause I'm not a beefy Japanese warrior hur
14:42.56AdmiralPandafair enough I guess
14:44.08AdmiralPandatbh the only reason I'm not wearing a plaited tail is my hair looks crap when it's long
14:45.19Tek0516Hello
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14:46.07Wormy_Right
14:46.32Wormy_I can export Spore creations to Maya 2014, although they are smothered in blue planes
14:47.44Hell-wormI never had happy birthday to you yersterday Technodroid, so happy belated birthday.  Who says it can only be celebrated on one day, I normally splash out mine through the week
14:48.03Hell-worm*said happy
14:48.12Technodroidheh
14:48.14Technodroidthanks ^.^
14:49.45Tek0516Today is my great-grandmother's 96th birthday. O.O
14:50.14Tek0516And yay for Maya exporting, even if imperfect.
14:57.23Hell-wormI'm sure there is a workaround
14:57.38Hell-wormAt least it can still be imported into 2014
15:08.29Technodroidsigh
15:08.44Technodroidthat anon is just asking for a ban
15:22.29Tek0516~test
15:22.29infobottest is probably not funny
15:27.52AdmiralPandaYahtzee's fake review of Duke Nukem Forever is hilarious
15:28.48HachiSpookYahtzee's pretty hilarious in general
15:29.44AdmiralPandaYep
15:30.33AdmiralPandaI had the opportunity to meet him in person, but A) he hates people and I'd rather not count as a human in his mind so he doesn't hate me, and B) the whole imagination > reality thing made me decide not to
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15:39.50JepardiHi
15:40.12Tek0516Hello
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16:11.02Hell-wormAdmiralPanda:  What is this about, if you don't mind me asking?
16:11.14AdmiralPandaA video game reviewer
16:11.24AdmiralPandaWell, review isn't the right word
16:11.31Hell-wormI can think of some good refutations to solipsism and Mind > Reality
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16:12.09AdmiralPandabasically he's a gloriously cynical british sonofabitch whose snarky humour in the field of gaming I am more addicted to than Americans are to freedom
16:12.34Hell-wormlol
16:13.42AdmiralPandaThe great thing about it though, is once you get used to his style and you realise he exaggerates everything, you realise he's often smack on about what's right or wrong with a particular game or genre
16:15.42Tek0516lol
16:21.46Hell-wormTek:  I got a call from my Grandmother's aunty once.  Freakishly, its the name of my Great Grandmother, who is dead, calling from the beyond the grave
16:22.05Hell-wormThat did actually happen
16:22.24Hell-wormMore likely, it was someone else ith the same name, but who knows
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16:29.19Hell-wormTime for me to do some work
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16:35.18GhoulaeHello.
16:35.19WorkinginHellhi
16:38.25ImpyDroidHi
16:39.02ImpyDroidGhoulae: http://i.imgur.com/stHA5yu.png Can you confirm that?
16:42.00WorkinginHellGhoulae:  Computer hell (pages 87 and beyond) http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8sj8AfrVseYC&pg=PA84&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false
16:42.31GhoulaeImpyDroid: Which do you want me to confirm?
16:42.41ImpyDroidall three
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16:44.20GhoulaeBritish pubs are certainly closing. In my home village, there used to be three. One turned into a church and another turned into an Indian restuarant.
16:44.43AdmiralPandaNot saying anything about the guys, but women with british accents are the male equivalent of a panty-dropper for most aussies
16:44.47GhoulaeAs for the latter two, those are highly subjective, and no I will not send you a picture of myself for you to check the second one for yourself.
16:45.23Vincent20100Wait...
16:45.28Vincent20100SO you're telling me...
16:45.43Vincent20100A pub closed to be replaced by a church?
16:46.49CosmicComputerMy town is famous for having more pubs than churches or chapels
16:47.23Vampy-VinnyHere in Quebec, churches are becoming a very rare sight
16:47.32CosmicComputerThere is three just outside my house, one at the end of street, two on the other, and there are dozens more everywhere#
16:47.35Vampy-VinnyCountless are closing
16:47.57TekDroid:D I think EUIV 1.8 is out.
16:48.07Vampy-VinnyIt is
16:48.14Vampy-VinnySome youtubers are streaming it
16:48.45Hell_wormNot sure I want to go to computer hell
16:49.37Vampy-VinnyLooking at the new files uploaded on the wiki
16:49.47Vampy-VinnyRealize I never actually found a cube planet
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17:13.16HachiSpookPubs are closing because renovations are costly nowadays and local councils want friendlier areas and shit like that
17:18.32Hell_wormThe ptice of alcohol is rising and people are finding it cheaper to buy cheap shit and stay in doors.
17:18.42HachiSpookAye
17:21.24Hell_wormI think its always been hard for pubs anyway
17:21.43HachiSpookYeah it has
17:21.52HachiSpookEspecially with youths today
17:22.47HachiSpookAlthough a few pubs I know in my area are still around because they feature a lot of musical entertainment from local bands, which promotes both themselves and the pubs
17:25.37Hell_wormI think they are doing a bit better where I live, there are many pubs in every town.  There is certainly a pub culture, and perhaps it is dying in some places and not others.  I should say there are probably less young people in my town.  Though the pubs are more empty than they used to be
17:26.02Hell_wormnone have closed though
17:26.15Hell_wormFingers crossed they never do
17:26.34Hell_wormI really like going to the pub ,lol
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17:29.32HachiSpookYou know I think it would be a good idea for us to be less lenient towards newer users
17:30.40AdmiralPandaI'm assuming you mean maintaining the supportive nature of the community, but tolerating less shit? Because that I'm fully behind.
17:30.54ImpyDroidFor example?
17:30.54HachiSpookAye exactly
17:31.23ImpyDroidIt depends on the user IMO
17:31.49ImpyDroidAdmiralPanda: What shit?
17:31.52AdmiralPandaNot really, because the good ones don't get affected, while the bad ones get the whipping they need, and the ones who aren't interested get weeded out
17:32.16AdmiralPandaImpyDroid: Bad attitudes, lack of respect, basically everything stems from those two under different names
17:32.24ImpyDroidrite
17:32.35ImpyDroidYeah I don't like people like that
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17:33.21HachiSpookLike the new user on Oluap's wall
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17:36.34GhoulaeHello.
17:36.44Vampy-VinnyHey Cyrannian
17:36.44CyraculaVlah.
17:37.02Vampy-VinnyI made a little something for you on spore
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17:37.22CyraculaOoh
17:37.35Hell_wormI learned on the wiki because admins and users of the time would snap at me for doing wrong
17:40.42AdmiralPandaMy opinion on the matter comes from my experience with Cadets: one year they (head office) decided that junior NCOs should not have the authority to punish wrongdoing cadets. Cue the entire thing going down the shitter because of undisciplined cadets getting into the lower ranks
17:41.24AdmiralPandaI once got a misconduct report for telling off a lance corporal for teaching people something that was both wrong, and LIFE THREATENING
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17:58.11Hell_wormOoh I can see the town' various firework displays from my window#
18:05.36TekDroidHello
18:08.00Vampy-VinnyGotta go guys, good day
18:08.47TekDroidAlright, EUIV 1.8 time. :D
18:19.37TekDroid>.< Oh wow, Art of War is C$22
18:28.17AdmiralPandahttp://cheezburger.com/7578985216
18:29.49Hell_wormthey do look a bit sheepish
18:29.50TekDroidAlso I have a better coolimg pad now so I can play Space Engineers with my GPU now. XD
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18:30.56AdmiralPandaoh my
18:31.17Monethello
18:31.27AdmiralPandaAlso, I did tell you of the tragedy that befell my collection of Mining Haulers didn't I?
18:31.48TekDroidNo... >.<
18:31.52TekDroidHello
18:32.14AdmiralPandaWorld save corrupted
18:32.15TekDroidYay, SE update too.
18:32.24TekDroid:O
18:32.29TekDroid:(
18:33.07AdmiralPandaHowever, me and Walke started up another world, first mining hauler that spawned was mine
18:33.18AdmiralPandaI think I'm gonna limit myself to just this one though
18:33.21TekDroidlol
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18:33.35TekDroidMy uranium mines. :(
18:33.55AdmiralPandaWhen I get around to it I'm gonna paint it purple and turn it into a pussywagon befitting of a Hachiman with slightly more game
18:34.11TekDroidO.o
18:34.37TekDroidEnjoy no context, Imperios.
18:34.47ImperiosHur
18:35.06AdmiralPandaAnd you will never have context
18:35.16TekDroid>:D
18:36.08TekDroidI want to save that now. XD
18:39.48TekDroidOh god what have I just done. XD
18:41.22TekDroidI just hooked up my card to Steam. My wallet, she cries.
18:41.37AdmiralPandaWhy would you do this?
18:42.14TekDroidI want to play EUIV but don't want to run to the store to buy Steam Credit. XD
18:43.52TekDroidParadox released a C$22 DLC. I had no choice. XD
18:45.27Hell_wormbbl dinner
18:46.03TekDroidSpore is in the Halloween sale. O.o
18:47.17OluapWraithAh good, the halloween sale is finally up
18:48.05TekDroidMy sibling's birthday is tomorrow and they're getting a new computer soon. I should buy them something. XD
18:48.42OluapWraithAnd the thing I wanted isn't on sale
18:48.43OluapWraithBah
18:48.49TekDroidLol.
18:49.00OluapWraithYou failed me this time, Gaben
18:49.03TekDroidIt's only supposed to be Halloween-themed stuff
18:49.21OluapWraithSpore isn't halloween-themed tho
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18:52.08MonetSweei Icewind Dale is on sale
18:53.08AdmiralPandaohgod some of these are hilarious http://www.tickld.com/x/30-actual-sentences-found-in-patients-hospital-charts
18:55.02TekDroidO.o
18:59.53HachiSpookWhy is Spore in the Haloween sale
18:59.57HachiSpookHalloween*
19:01.15MonetArmA II is i nthe sale as well
19:02.22MonetSo they probably threw in a few popular outliers
19:02.27AdmiralPandaI would have said Arma was there for DayZ but that's standalone now
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19:02.47OluapWraithThere's a whole bunch of non-Halloween games on the Halloween sale
19:02.54OluapWraithBut not a single Warhammer 40K game
19:02.58OluapWraithdisgustin
19:03.10AdmiralPandadisappointin bro
19:03.12drom2much daka
19:03.18HachiSpookWe;;
19:03.20HachiSpookWell*
19:03.28HachiSpookActually there's Space Hulk
19:03.38OluapWraithWho gives a shit for Space Hulk hur
19:03.59MonetIts a classic though
19:04.12MonetOr am I thinking of a different Space Hulk game..
19:04.22MonetI recall a Doomlike fro mthe 90s
19:04.26AdmiralPandaSpace Hulk is Space Hulk, it's like the spookiest 40k gets before the Dark Eldar are involved
19:04.30HachiSpookThe Space Hulk that's on sale is a revised version of the original Space Hulk
19:04.44OluapWraithdats not Dawn of War Tew
19:04.46HachiSpookWith HD graphics and revised gameplay and mechanics and crap
19:04.49OluapWraithWhich's what I wanted
19:05.49MonetTHe original DoWs are like 10 bucks on Steam though
19:06.02HachiSpookWe have the original DoWs hur
19:06.15HachiSpookAnd besides
19:06.19HachiSpookNobody wants Soulstorm hur
19:06.33AdmiralPandabutbut I do...
19:06.40OluapWraithu want sum deep strike akshun
19:06.42HachiSpookNo, you reallu don't
19:06.42AdmiralPandathe Dark Eldar lines in that are precious
19:06.55HachiSpookThe game's broken as all hell
19:07.02AdmiralPanda"A bigger cage? I… I can't even see the bars!" - Tortured slace
19:07.04AdmiralPandaslave*
19:07.16AdmiralPandaHachi, I have the game, and I love it just for the DE's lines
19:07.47HachiSpookI can't even like the Dark Eldar in that game because of the absurdity of the Dais of Destruction and the fact that Vect sits on it
19:07.53OluapWraithu got pleb taste cus orks has da bestest lines
19:08.18HachiSpookActually scratch that, the fact that Vect is in the game at all would be like putting the Emperor or a Chaos God in there hur
19:08.22AdmiralPandaHachi: That's cos you're dumb. The Dias of Destruction was actually a unit in the Codex at the time
19:08.41HachiSpookWell yeah I know it was a unit
19:08.50HachiSpookDidn't it get taken out in the later editions?
19:09.04HachiSpookEither Vect got taken out or was nerfed
19:09.16AdmiralPandaOnly one month ago, and that's because Vect is getting buffed like hell and moved to apocalypse
19:09.24MonetI just figured it was some really important Dar kEldar dude
19:09.36HachiSpookWell yeah it was, it was Vect hur
19:09.57HachiSpookAlso I despise how the Mandrakes look in that game
19:10.03HachiSpookThey don't look shadowy at all
19:10.06AdmiralPandaThat was how they looked at the time
19:10.11AdmiralPandathey weren't shadowy back then
19:10.41OluapWraithI did play the demo for Soulstorm
19:10.51HachiSpookThe DE units got better looking in that case, that's for sure
19:10.53OluapWraithYou play as the Dark Eldar against Borele
19:11.00OluapWraithBoreale even
19:11.22AdmiralPandaThe DE got a LOT better looking in their last miniature re-release
19:11.35AdmiralPandathe codex the Soulstorm units are based off was a second edition codex
19:11.46HachiSpookNo line from any unit will beat the hamminess of "WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" though
19:12.32HachiSpookI think it's either the Priest or the Psyker that says it, can't remember
19:12.38OluapWraithPsyker
19:12.49OluapWraithAll of his lines are screaming ham loud
19:13.04MonetI always figured that was because he was in some kind of constant pain
19:13.22HachiSpookPsykers tend to be outright insane when weaponized like that
19:15.08Monet"I...knew you'd say.....that!"
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19:18.59DrodoEmpireHey, everyone!
19:19.28ImperiosOoh I remember playing the Dark Eldar demon
19:19.30Imperiosdemo
19:19.30HachiSpookGotta wonder about the efficiency of your potent, psychic bodyguard considering he's a frail, jittering mess that shouts all the time hur
19:20.11ImperiosI actually thought Boreale was charismatic back then
19:20.29ImperiosHachiSpook: Well psykers also have their precognitive powers and stuff
19:20.53AdmiralPandaHachi: In canon they aren't that efficient on their own, you have five or six chained together with an execution squad pointing lasguns at their backs in case something goes wrong
19:20.57ImperiosNone of the bodyguard units IG has in DoW are really used only for their combat potential, both in lore and stuff
19:21.05DrodoEmpireAlright big friggin' update is live now, so I'll download it and now continue modding! :D
19:21.21HachiSpookImperios: Well I dunno, there are Priests
19:21.26HachiSpookAnd Commissars
19:21.43AdmiralPandaBoth are largely used for morale
19:21.47ImperiosThat's why I said in lore and stuff
19:21.50ImperiosThat
19:21.52HachiSpookWell no you don't have to be a good fighter to be a Commissar
19:22.00HachiSpookExample: Ciaphas Cain
19:22.13HachiSpookAlthough from what I hear Ciaphas is good with a chainsword
19:22.21DrodoEmpireAren't Commissars officers and "morale boosters"? :P
19:22.39HachiSpookYeah Commissars are morale boosters, officers, and traitor exterminators
19:22.49AdmiralPandaDrodoEmpire: Imperial Commissars! Increasing morale by being scarier motherfuckers than the guys in front of you!
19:23.00DrodoEmpireIf they are officers then they don't necessarily need to be good fighters, no; An officer in any time in history need a good tactical mind and a very load voice. :P
19:23.04DrodoEmpire*loud
19:23.06DrodoEmpirelol
19:23.24drom"very 'lol' voice"
19:23.37TekDroidStarted a new Brandenburg game here. :)
19:23.48TekDroidGot all 4 main DLC now.
19:23.53DrodoEmpireIf the officer of a regiment is caught up in a melee, your whole regiment is in *big* trouble
19:24.01ImperiosHachiSpook: Well Ciaphas was actually somewhat competent
19:24.03ImperiosI think
19:24.28HachiSpookYeah he was competent but I hear he is rather self-depricative and cowardly
19:24.44AdmiralPandaBoth good ways to survive
19:25.15HachiSpookWhich is why his memoirs are edited by an Inquisitor for Imperial propaganda and such
19:29.17AdmiralPandaI still just love the Imperial Guardsman's Uplifting Primer
19:29.47HachiSpookAye, it's implied that even the Guardmen themselves largely think it's a source of amusement
19:29.56AdmiralPandaOh absolutely
19:29.58HachiSpookGuardsmen*
19:30.03ImperiosTYRANIDS ARE STUPID AND ARE SCARED OF SOUNDS.
19:30.18MonetThen it is successful as an uplifting primer
19:30.20ImperiosTAU ARE NAZIS WITH UDDERS.
19:30.23AdmiralPanda"Despite its size and bulk, the ork is no stronger than a normal human, and is highly vulnerable to lasgun fire."
19:30.56MonetI wonder if more senior Guardsmen pull the legs of recruits with it?
19:31.12AdmiralPandaProbably
19:31.14Monet"Oh don't worry abotu those Dark Eldar. They're very scared of tanks"
19:31.46HachiSpookTo be fair most Dark Eldar prefer not to be involved in large-scale engagements
19:32.09Monet"And you can scare them off by shouting "EMPEROR" really loudly, like at the top of your lungs. THey'll run off in an instant. True story."
19:32.40Monet"Oh, and they like it when aliens make fun of their hair"
19:32.58AdmiralPandaOh they very much prefer to be in large-scale engagements, they just like it for those engagements to be very quick and in their favour
19:34.16Hell_wormI'm javascripting again, hopefully no infinite loops this timerr
19:34.43Hell_wormEnternal Computer Hell
19:35.04Hell_wormmwah hah hah hah
19:41.43MonetAdmiralpanda: And to reward the mwith many slaves.
20:05.31Hell_wormOcean Quigley and some Ex-Maxis devs are working on a new evolutionary sim game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQZOoKUnnq8
20:09.05Hell_wormI think sim games are my thing
20:10.48HachiSpookHell_worm: What's your thoughts on the plausability of worlds and planets that aren't merely spherical?
20:11.12Hell_wormSim games > Open World/Open MMOs > 4X > Racing games (used to be fav once) > rest
20:12.00Hell_wormWell, any bodies over a certain mass will become spherical due to gravity, but anything under that limit can come in a wide variety of shapes, most often from being smashed up.
20:12.53Hell_wormI don't think true planets above that limit can be beyond spheroid in shape
20:13.05Hell_wormKeep in mind, Earth is an oblate sphere
20:13.30Hell_wormIts possible there are worlds out there that are egg shaped, perhaps planetary twins
20:13.45MonetIts slightly squashed at the poles and slightly bulging at the poles and equator respectively due to its spon.
20:13.47Monetspin*
20:14.04Hell_wormA great science fiction novel, Rocheworld explores twin egg-shaped planets
20:14.46MonetI think Io or a few other of Jupiter's moons might be more egg-shaped due to the effect of Jupiter's gravity on their planetward side.
20:14.55MonetBut its not radical.
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20:15.39Hell_wormMaybe aliens could construct huge non-spherical artefacts, but I imagine that is pointless unless they have some very strange reasons.
20:15.41MonetBut square or ring-shaped planets ofrming naturally is unlikely. Gravity doesn't like those kinds of megashapes.
20:15.42ImperiosohX
20:15.51HachiSpookspu
20:15.54Monetforming*
20:16.26Hell_wormIo and many such moons undergo continual stretches and squeezing depending how close or far they are from the gas giant they are orbiting
20:18.57Hell_wormAlso Saturn's oblateness is visible
20:19.21Hell_wormhttp://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/saturn/saturn_false.jpg
20:20.21MonetHey yeah
20:20.45MonetI suppose Saturn's shape can be more oblate due to its more fluid composition?
20:21.38Hell_wormI think its all down to its rotation
20:22.04MonetTrue but a gaseous upper atmosphere probably helps
20:22.33MonetLess foce required to shift air molecules than rock
20:22.54Hell_wormPerhaps, it's core (which is likely solid) may not be as oblate
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20:26.56Hell_wormShape of the Earth, exagerated http://planetearth.nerc.ac.uk/images/uploaded/custom/geoid-c2.jpg
20:29.02MonetWHat happened to the Indian Ocean?
20:34.33Hell_wormSubsurface inhomogeneities, which is reflected in the gravitational acceleration measured there.
20:35.27Hell_wormMantle density might be one culprit, a cold and dense slab sinking in the upper mantle
20:36.30Hell_wormActually, its a matter of debate
20:36.42MonetSo that map displays the local gravitational acceleration based on the local rock and mantle density and composition?
20:36.54Hell_wormyes
20:37.01Hell_worminferred
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20:42.38Wormy_[20:38] <Hell_worm> It could be that there was subduction in the region that is now the Indian ocean, there are anomalies detected going all the way down to the core-mantle boundary.
20:44.06AdmiralPandahttp://ifunny.co/fun/c75QJ83J2
20:44.42Wormy_The amazing I find is that all these subsurface structures (inferences on composition and temperature) can be inferred from seismic wave velocities and how its so dependant on density, or extremely fine gravitational sensing instruments.  Occasionally exploring with magnetics or chemistry if possible.
20:45.02MonetAdmiralPAnda: Snarky Witness Sndrome
20:45.43Wormy_But my response to people who think geosciences are dead and complete:  there is so much we don't know about the Upper Mantle and below.
20:45.51MonetWait is this the same guy?
20:47.11MonetThe last one is pure gold
20:48.21MonetI love how one witness was basically asking if she could get a replacement attourney at the trial.
20:48.37MonetWormy): There are people who think that?
20:49.40Wormy_I've seen it in youtube comments anyway
20:51.04MonetI think there are always people like that
20:52.52MonetALso I swear that I am picking subjects with multiple roles: As a CG arts student I am being trained to be an animator, a painter, a rigger, a concept artist, a fashion designer, an architect, a sociology student and a philosipher.
20:53.33TekDroidSoftware Engineer. I could program anything. XD
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20:56.23TekDroidHello
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20:57.16TekDroidWelcome back
21:01.52Wormy_There are unknowns even in surface geology lol
21:01.58Wormy_don't know if that got through
21:04.56MonetI saw it
21:05.01ImpyDroidMonet: Linguist, translator, mathematician, programmer, philosopher/psychologist
21:05.07ImpyDroidgit on my lvl scrub
21:05.36MonetImpyDroid: There's a hint of engineer, scriptwriter and director in my studies too.
21:05.57ImpyDroidTBH I envy you a bit
21:06.08MonetYou do?
21:06.17ImpyDroidYou have a far more creative discipline
21:07.36Wormy_The last three are my areas of interest
21:08.34ImpyDroidOh also Monet: http://i.imgur.com/stHA5yu.png Showed that to several people already
21:08.43ImpyDroidThat's the Google suggestions
21:08.52MonetAll three are s otrue lol
21:09.05Wormy_Environmental geology, special interest in planetary science.  Now study programming and computational modelling applied to geology and simulations.  Study physics, philosophy of knowledge and philosophy of mathematics in my own time.
21:09.10MonetThe pub is believed to be becoming an endangered species lol.
21:10.14ImpyDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/YavmTes.png Now compare that to my suggestions
21:10.20ImpyDroidAngry beautiful programmer
21:10.22Liquid_Inkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOd3lwluQIw Silly British
21:10.30Wormy_ImpyDroid:  You'd really like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach
21:10.32MonetWho says creative arts students are a bunch of weed-smoking layabouts too stupid to have the education to perform white-collar jobs.
21:11.33Wormy_Language, translation, programming, logic, metalogic, computer science and AI, physics. and even visual arts, dialogues, music and zen philosophy
21:11.44ImpyDroidXho: http://i.imgur.com/XfRZqUc.png Why it sucks to be me
21:11.53Wormy_Crammed into one fugue of a book
21:12.08MonetLiquid_Ink: We english are proud of or words with many silent letters.
21:12.17CyraculaI got "Why are british teeth so terrible", "why are british called poms" and "why are british joining isis"
21:12.37ImpyDroidgod
21:13.19CyraculaApparently "pom" is an Australian insult
21:13.44MonetCyracula: First one is ironic actually. British teeth arent' as white but they are less prone ot cavities, and the third I'm not sure either but I read there's a hint of peer pressure
21:14.17Wormy_I got "Why British plugs are the best", "Why British army not royal", "Why British think they are better"
21:14.32MonetYeah "pom" is derogatory probably because Austrailia began as a penal colony so they probably needed a word to allow them to insult us without us realising
21:14.47AdmiralPandaEven we have no idea where the word came from
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21:15.32CyraculaThe American search is mostly rude ones
21:15.39MonetWormy_: One of the CCP guys I met in Iceland asked "Why do british peopel insist everything we [Americans] do is wrong" when I announced I had come from England.
21:15.40AdmiralPandaCurrently the most reasonable explanation I've heard is that if you take a full-blooded brit and move them to Australia, they turn the colour of a pomegranate
21:16.26CyraculaIn fact, most searches seem to have "Why are [insert name of nationality] so rude"
21:16.32Wormy_"Why Americans stink at math"
21:17.05CyraculaImpyDroid: "why are russians so tough"
21:17.17MonetCyracula: I asked the same question about Americans being loud and very open to one of my senior course leaders while in New York.
21:17.27ImpyDroidRAWR VODKA BALALAIKA
21:17.48Wormy_"Why Irish have black hair"
21:17.48MonetI think the answer she gave was it was t odo with the whole "freedo mof expression" thing.
21:18.17ImpyDroidMy search tends to have "why are X so attractive/beautiful"
21:18.54Wormy_Tbh British are probably worse abreoad than Americans
21:19.06Monet*Looks up "Why are French..." -> half of what I get is about french fries*
21:19.10Wormy_They tend to be the trouble causes
21:19.38Wormy_the drunken louts
21:19.44MonetI get one suggestion form Google with "Why are Germans": "Why are Germans so rude"
21:20.14Wormy_"why is german language so ugly"
21:20.45TekDroidI expected something about Nazis
21:20.57Monet"Why is Germany so rich/Better than England/So good/better at football"
21:22.04ImpyDroidWhat happens when you put in Koreans?
21:22.35Monet"why do KOreans say fighting"
21:23.15Cyracula"why are korean guys so rude/tall/cute" "why are korean dramas popular"
21:23.29ImpyDroid...Tall cute rude person
21:23.45Monet"why are Korean so good at gaming"
21:24.49AdmiralPandaI decided to be silly and put in Japanese, the first two things were variations of weird
21:25.36MonetI tried "why do chinese"
21:25.53Monet"Why do chinese have small/slanted eyes" I feel like i'm dying inside now
21:26.27AdmiralPandato be fair, I studied evolution and I'm not quite sure what the advantage is
21:26.30MonetIt must be a case of willful ignorance  that every nationality assumes each other is generally rude.
21:26.54Cyracula"Why do chinese people eat dogs" is the gem I got.
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21:27.10Monet"why does China ban facebook"
21:27.13Wormy_[21:20] <Wormy_> "why is german language so ugly"
21:27.46MonetThen again I heard soemthing about how in the US, european tourists are hated in resturaunts because they're not used to tipping as well as palying for the meal. Since in EUrope, tips are part of the bill.
21:27.52Cyraculahttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141030210808/spore/images/7/73/CoruantorNewRep.png - Coruantor joins the New Republic
21:27.58Monetpaying for*
21:28.08MonetAs a result, euros don't leave tips
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21:28.11Knight_AlienHi
21:28.42AdmiralPandaI still don't understand the point of tipping, if you're going to make it a social standard to pay someone extra for a service they perform regardless, increase the wage and pass the cost on to consumers
21:29.52MonetI think tips remain as a relic of a time when tips were the only way that waiters and waitresses were paid.
21:30.43TekDroidI think here tips is still a significant part of their income.
21:32.54MonetLiquid_Ink: After learning of the French influence on the US, I get a little iffy that places like "New Orleans" are pronounced how they are spelt. Mainly because it must get wierd in Geography class when you get students ocnfused as to where "old Ore-lee-ns" is when the city was named after "or-li-on"
21:33.36MonetAlthough East St. Louis I can probably slide because Louis is french for Lewis.
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21:40.59Wormy__My connec tion is absolutely horrendous
21:43.52Wormy__I might be losing my broadband for a few days
21:43.58Wormy__Damn it
21:44.14Wormy__This week was supposed to be good for my work and fiction#
21:44.51Monet"Why is England so small"
21:45.29TekDroidO.o
21:45.45Wormy__The broadband has been awful for months now, and my dad has just discovered over £70 added to our television bills without any notification
21:46.08Wormy__We had a free sports subscription
21:46.09MonetGoogle Search suggestions: For when you want examples of people asking stupid questions.
21:46.17Wormy__Now suddenely it seems to be forgotten#
21:46.41Wormy__That in the internet is so bloody terrible
21:47.08Wormy__And the television box they provided has been replaced about three times, its menu optimised for big screens
21:47.12Wormy__stuff them
21:47.25MonetWho's your provider?
21:47.33Wormy__And now I'm looking at the possibility of no internet at all
21:47.37Wormy__BT Vision
21:47.42Wormy__Absolutely shite
21:48.00MonetYeah they suck.
21:48.33Monet"BT Infinite" is more like "BT hardly anything"
21:48.58Wormy__Everything about BT doesn't work
21:49.06Wormy__Their box
21:49.14Wormy__They make errors
21:49.34Wormy__Like rthis sudden huge bill
21:49.50Wormy__I would never recommend BT
21:50.42Wormy__I'm going to have to say goodbye
21:50.56Wormy__The broadband is being cancelled as I speak it seems
21:51.03MonetGoodbye.
21:51.07MonetWe'll miss you
21:51.08Wormy__This is a huge disruption
21:51.23Wormy__I was finally making progress with GXS
21:51.31Wormy__Ah
21:51.34Wormy__Lol
21:51.42Wormy__Nobody is actually on the ine
21:51.47Wormy__*line
21:52.16Wormy__This gives me time to put some money on my tablet
21:52.20Wormy__at least
21:55.08Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a8bq8y6_460s.jpg
21:59.00Wormy__Right BT have tried to trap us
21:59.15MonetWait what?
21:59.29Wormy__To keep free service one now has to pay for another 12 months, that was not on the agreement
21:59.43MonetCheck the contract's fine print.
21:59.59Wormy__No, BT have changed their fine print
22:00.10MonetWithout your consent?
22:00.12Wormy__yes
22:00.19MonetWithout informing?
22:00.30Wormy__And there was no notification about having to pay an extra £70
22:00.36Wormy__Its sudden
22:01.18MonetIf you have a copy of the original contract as well as evidence that this was sudden and unnotified then you have grounds to complain.
22:01.30Wormy__You've probably seen how bad my connection is lately
22:01.35MonetYeah
22:01.49Wormy__I'm trying to convince my family that so I can at least keep the internet until the weekend
22:02.14Wormy__Surely this could be argued, it might even ben an error
22:02.16Wormy__but no
22:02.41MonetYou're saying your family want none of it?
22:02.48Wormy__Of course
22:03.03Wormy__We are pretty annoyed at BT's shoddy internet and TV box anyway
22:03.13Wormy__I'd welcome a new broadband provider
22:03.35Wormy__But this move is evil]
22:03.36MonetNot informing you of the change of terms and conditions is bad business practice
22:03.51Wormy__indeed
22:04.15Wormy__I hear Talk Talk is good
22:04.49MonetWhether it's court-worthy...I don't know. Saying "we had no notification" can be tricky evidence to use in court without documented evidence.
22:04.56Wormy__Virgin maybe
22:05.25MonetVirgin's good. My family had them for broadband for a couple of years and they weren't too bad
22:05.32MonetPretty good connection I must say.
22:06.02Wormy__I used to have Sky, but they are expensive
22:06.11Wormy__There is one plus about BT
22:06.30Wormy__You get a feed (no choice though) of the latest films
22:06.51MonetI hear Virgin has great TV service
22:06.58MonetFilms too.
22:07.17Wormy__That, and the free sports (so we can watch UFC) is probably the only reason we kept BT.  The internet is getting worse and worse
22:08.01Wormy__Ooh, Talk Talk is free all year
22:08.15Wormy__for mobile and broadband
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22:08.45MonetCheck available bandwidths.
22:09.11MonetSOme companies may be cheaper but offer less speed.
22:09.18MonetVirgin's good if you want speed.
22:11.05Wormy__There is no fibre optics in my area, too Northern
22:12.10Monethmm
22:12.28MonetUsually they install it free of charge if they are available in your area
22:13.00MonetMy mum's house is one of those 1930s terraces and they installed afibre-optic connection with no extra charge.
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22:31.41DrodoEUIVHelo
22:31.43DrodoEUIV*Hello
22:31.57DrodoEmpireI stopped playing a while ago. >.<
22:32.38TekZombieLol
22:32.48TekZombieEnjoying AoW?
22:33.11DrodoEmpireWell the free update.
22:33.17DrodoEmpireI still need to get it
22:33.18DrodoEmpire:P
22:33.26TekZombieI bought it already
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22:43.57MonetI wonder how popular High Praetoral designs are outside of the Imeprium
22:44.18MonetAlthough I look at them and think a lot of them for other nations are probably seen as catwalk-only designs
22:44.53DrodoEmpireWhat do you mean?
22:45.48MonetHigh praetorial = the line of high-fashion amongst Draconis
22:46.24TekZombieI could imagine at least a niche following across GITO.
22:46.28DrodoEmpireRight
22:46.42XhoWell I've redone the Kicath model
22:47.21MonetTekZombie: Yeah they're not exactly everydaywear
22:47.46MonetAlthough they might have a following of people who like tuning in to those kinds of fashion shows.
22:47.47DrodoEmpireWell if it is what I'm thinking it is ("old-style" aristocratic fashion), it may be popular with the Drodo; They tend to lean towards that sort of thing. :P
22:47.59TekZombieProbably a mostly upperclass trend or on the Draconis weeboo types.
22:48.44Xhohttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141030224757/spore/images/6/69/KicathMaleVersion5.png Go nuts
22:49.01DrodoEmpireTek: What? For the Drodo? :P
22:49.12TekZombieIn general.
22:49.20DrodoEmpireRight.
22:49.21MonetDrodoEmpire: Yeah think "aristocratic ballroom"
22:49.25DrodoEmpireAh
22:49.37MonetXho: Shiny thighs.
22:49.43MonetALso they seem more...crystalline
22:49.44DrodoEmpireYeah then it'd be fairly popular with well-to-do Drodo
22:50.03XhoWell I thought considering their planet is like Super Australia they sort of need natural armour
22:51.33TekZombieIn Farengeto it'd be mostly limited to a wealthy minority.
22:52.43Monethttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131122121743/spore/images/9/9a/Vindevus_Ultanos_Profile.png  http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131122125303/spore/images/0/04/Kavessa_Ultanos_Profile.png this counts as "praetoral"
22:53.04DrodoEmpireRight
22:54.07MonetI imagine for less economically powerful nations those costumes may be expensive.
22:54.39MonetMainly because a big part of what makes praetoral outfits special is the label.
22:59.11dromdamn, that's one of a- *holds back laughter*
22:59.40Monetdrom: Me or Xho?
22:59.56Monetwas that to me*
23:00.07Xhohttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141030225823/spore/images/c/c7/KicathVersion5SideProfile.png There's a side profile
23:00.26Wormy__So true it hurts http://imgur.com/gallery/9JGDsN0
23:00.29MonetThat's a very big chest, armour considered.
23:00.42Wormy__Google also had prototype quantum computers.
23:01.12Wormy__I bet he gets the girls
23:01.29DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/h7Mpdq4.gif
23:01.36dromMonet, aye.
23:01.38XhoKicath are devoid of sexual attraction so no not really hur
23:02.24Wormy__http://i.imgur.com/h7Mpdq4.gif
23:02.37Wormy__Damnit Drodo you ninja'd me
23:02.42DrodoEmpire\.;3
23:02.45DrodoEmpire*>:3
23:03.07MonetJust a thought but there's more ways to increase survivability than armour. Then again given your style and the nature of the Kicath, armour is probably better than being super-flexible.
23:03.28MonetOr releasing some kind of toxic gas/spray.
23:03.38DrodoEmpireOr, in some cases, a lack of armour. :P
23:03.46DrodoEmpireMobility, that sort of thing
23:04.15DrodoEmpireSeeing as when guns first came around heavy armour became a liability; Weighing soldiers down and providing no protection
23:04.17Wormy__Just 47 days till googlegeddon http://googleworlddomination.com/
23:04.28dromNaakjians have got biological armor. And they better be fexible outfits.
23:04.46DrodoEmpireOnly really the heaviest cavalry wore anything approaching the knightly armour of old.
23:04.57MonetIts Ironic that despite austrailia's nature the only animal I can think of that has proper durable armour in that country is the saltwater crocodile
23:05.46DrodoEmpireAnd that's because only very thick armour resisted anything bigger than a pistol. :P
23:06.12XhoI wonder how durable Kicathian exoskeletons are
23:06.25DrodoEmpireGood question. :P
23:06.48DrodoEmpireDepending on their natural defenses their history and current technology could be very different/exotic
23:07.31MonetI think Draconis have natural bullet-resistant "armour" (probably anything smaller than a 9mm pistol) by virtue of their size poroprtionate to scale thickness.
23:08.05Wormy__One could create a story about Kicath learning what sexual attraction is by testing it on various species.
23:08.21Xho"You're all stupid." - Kicath
23:08.36MonetHmm, I think Kicath may be old enough ot have experienced noticeable natural genetic progression.
23:08.50Wormy__It must look like a waste of time to them
23:08.52Monet700,000 years is nearing evolutionary timescales.
23:09.14XhoKicath were originally far thinner and shorter in size 700,000 years ago
23:09.19XhoThough much longer lived naturally
23:09.43Wormy__I'll be back from Spore later, hopefully with creations.
23:09.50XhoWhereas the natural lifespan of a Kicath is around 330 years, back then it was closer to 800
23:10.20XhoOf course nowadays most Kicath choose technology and so could probably be immortal if they wanted to be
23:10.23Wormy__Perhaps somehow, they have traded age for size.
23:11.04XhoAlpha Kicath and Sampi Kicath do have varying lifespans as well
23:11.38XhoSampi Kicath are somewhat very similar to Vi'Navitum in size and stature
23:12.15XhoOriginally they were probably Kicath who interbred with Vi'Navitum and/or were experimented upon
23:13.26XhoI don't mention them much since there's no real point to mentioning them
23:16.42MonetMaybe Kicath selectively bred with those who had heavier body armouring?
23:16.55MonetDue to their warlike and violent culture
23:17.19XhoPerhaps
23:17.35XhoKicath see things such as reproduction as a means to an end
23:17.40XhoThe end being a larger population
23:18.00XhoThe Kicath's emotional spectrum literally comprises of:        Mild amusement -> Homicidal anger
23:19.56XhoAnd general disdain in between
23:25.16MonetI had an idea to enhance the alienness of the Draconis.
23:26.15MonetI read that snakes can hear by detecting tiny vibrations in the ground and I thought to myself; perhaps draconis developed air pressure sensetive fingertips and toes originally to hlep hunt for prey but is a common method of listening ot music
23:27.11MonetALso pressure-sensetive digits I guess could  help with finding good or bad air currents during flight.
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23:56.31HachiSpookHai
23:56.44DrodoEmpireHey
23:56.52dromThe greeting is not spooky enough
23:56.56dromTreat or Spook
23:57.57HachiSpookAlright fine
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23:58.35dromAlright, you won't get treaties this halloween. Cause you didn't ask for it.

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