| 00:00.02 | Wormy_Spore | It goes to update content database and gets overloaded |
| 00:00.22 | Wormy_Spore | I might have to deinstall Spore then reinstall |
| 00:00.35 | Wormy_Spore | Oh wait no |
| 00:00.58 | Wormy_Spore | I could go to the recycle bin, restore the empty packages to do without my saved games |
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| 00:02.43 | Wormy_Spore | I think its windows stuffing me up |
| 00:03.09 | Wormy_Spore | It sensing the game is slowing down and then its closing the game |
| 00:29.05 | Wormy_Spore | Ah |
| 00:29.23 | Wormy_Spore | I moved the .package files into a different folder, and sucess# |
| 00:29.58 | Wormy_Spore | I diod the silly of overiting them while not copying the originals that installed with the game todauy |
| 00:47.22 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Quidam Shitty article of the week ladies and gents |
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| 01:57.53 | Knight_Aliens | Hello |
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| 02:29.37 | Vincent20100 | Hey |
| 02:30.17 | TekDroid | Canada's Worst Driver makes me cringe. >.< |
| 02:30.30 | Vincent20100 | We aren't like them |
| 02:30.39 | Vincent20100 | I'm not that bad of a driver |
| 02:31.37 | TekDroid | Imagine a fresh, shiny new Cadillac. Now imagine it being scraped along concrete barriers repeatedly. |
| 03:06.03 | TekDroid | Lol. https://m.imgur.com/gallery/kSCTuQX |
| 03:07.51 | TekDroid | (Apparently that's an unmanned launch that went horribly wrong the other day) |
| 03:11.35 | TekDroid | O.o Darth Vader was apparently an actual presidential candidate in Ukraine |
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| 03:11.43 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 03:11.53 | GD12 | hi |
| 03:12.06 | TekDroid | O.o Darth Vader was apparently an actual presidential candidate in Ukraine |
| 03:13.10 | TekDroid | And I mean a real guy who legally changed his name and walks around in the outfir. |
| 03:15.30 | TekDroid | He was also denied his vote. XD |
| 03:15.45 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 03:15.45 | infobot | from memory, test is not funny |
| 03:22.11 | GD12 | hur |
| 04:45.12 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 05:17.23 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 05:17.23 | infobot | rumour has it, test is not funny |
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| 09:46.14 | drom | Angrybirds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAioFSOo0YI |
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| 09:47.11 | drom | Time to get your french patriotism senses tingling. |
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| 09:57.24 | ImpyDroid2 | Hita |
| 09:57.31 | ImpyDroid2 | Hita |
| 09:57.31 | ImpyDroid2 | Hiya |
| 09:58.12 | OluapWorker | Hello |
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| 11:06.45 | Knight_Aliens | test |
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| 11:17.05 | HachiSpook | Boo |
| 11:20.31 | OluapWorker | ~glomp HachiSpook |
| 11:20.31 | infobot | ACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps HachiSpook |
| 11:20.40 | HachiSpook | <3 |
| 11:20.48 | OluapWorker | y u spooky |
| 11:23.25 | HachiSpook | cuz spookyween |
| 11:23.33 | OluapWorker | dats in 2 days tho |
| 11:25.15 | HachiSpook | im anticipatin |
| 11:29.23 | ImpyDroid | ~spook HachiSpook |
| 11:29.34 | ImpyDroid | ...does not work |
| 11:29.36 | ImpyDroid | dum |
| 11:29.41 | HachiSpook | Of course |
| 11:29.46 | OluapWorker | infobot isn't programmed with skeleton powers |
| 11:30.07 | drom | ~scare me |
| 11:30.07 | infobot | ACTION puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at drom |
| 11:30.13 | HachiSpook | She has yet to give up her digital meat suit |
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| 11:46.34 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of skellies |
| 11:46.54 | ImpyDroid | I wonder if we could make a large-scale story in a format similar to the Prophet Stone |
| 11:48.58 | OluapWorker | How'd you mean? |
| 11:49.10 | ImpyDroid | Diary format basically |
| 11:49.41 | OluapWorker | Oh |
| 11:50.10 | AdmiralPanda | anything large scale is gonna be a lot of diaries |
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| 12:09.41 | drom | fooking random ponds being 10m deep |
| 12:11.32 | drom | Maybe not that deep. But it's unpredictable to drive across it. http://i.imgur.com/d5oqts7.jpg |
| 12:17.45 | drom | ImpyDroid: Siberia is a hell of a place. |
| 12:17.58 | ImpyDroid | You don't say |
| 12:18.54 | ImpyDroid | My mother was born there |
| 12:19.07 | drom | small ponds with an unpredictable depth |
| 12:19.10 | ImpyDroid | Well actually she was born in East Ural |
| 12:19.15 | ImpyDroid | But it's clpse |
| 12:19.31 | drom | I see. |
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| 12:28.04 | Technodroid | I'm surprised Spartian still uses the same IP |
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| 12:30.54 | OluapWorker | Technodroid: Happy birthday dum |
| 12:31.10 | Technodroid | thanks dumbo nao imma shank ya dad hurhurhur |
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| 12:33.18 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 12:36.02 | Hachiman | dumternet |
| 12:36.17 | HachiSpook | Technodroid: Happy birthday where's my cake |
| 12:36.42 | Technodroid | nocake5u |
| 12:36.56 | drom | It feels like the "spooky" joke is water out nowadays. |
| 12:39.45 | Wormy_ | 10 Things You Need To Know About Zombies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLH5ev_WpXQ |
| 12:42.03 | Wormy_ | drom: How did you install patch 5? Is there a way without installing EADM. Last time the EADM really annoyed me. I went to download patch 5 from Spore's website and it installed Origin. But then I "ragequitted" and uninstalled Origin when I found I had to create an account and I'm sick of new accounbts and didn't want Origin in the first place |
| 12:42.36 | Wormy_ | Installing origin didn't propmt patch 5 to install either |
| 12:44.20 | HachiSpook | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2zaf3ksOEko/UCDLmnxmPTI/AAAAAAAAR_k/5s6I7PoN0Mc/s1600/010-funny-animal-gifs-dog-slap.gif I love this |
| 12:45.00 | Wormy_ | My dog would probably rip your face off if I slowly approached it with my head |
| 12:46.19 | Wormy_ | Hey I noticed something in Spore I never have |
| 12:46.46 | Wormy_ | If I shoot down a colony vehicle, like an aircraft, two pilots came flying out |
| 12:48.17 | OluapWorker | HachiSpook: me n u |
| 12:48.25 | HachiSpook | Wormy_: That fact about the resurrected dogs also reminded me that not only did they revive dogs, they also revived decapitated dog heads |
| 12:48.51 | HachiSpook | There is a recording of the experiment on Youtube somewhere and it's quite unsettling |
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| 12:50.59 | Wormy__ | Yeah, I watched it once Hachi |
| 12:51.51 | Wormy__ | They even show a clip of the dogs alive and well afterwards, which is obviously propaganda or something |
| 12:52.27 | HachiSpook | Yeah I'm not entirely sold on its authenticity |
| 12:52.32 | HachiSpook | But those dog heads |
| 12:53.14 | Wormy__ | Still, might be done to a human one day |
| 12:53.36 | Wormy__ | Its been done to monkeys too |
| 12:54.38 | Wormy__ | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10154240/First-human-head-transplant-now-possible-neurosurgeon-claims.html |
| 12:59.05 | drom | Wormy__ I neither have no idea. |
| 13:00.03 | Wormy__ | There are sites which you can download patch 5, but I seriously don't trust many such sites |
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| 13:00.21 | Wormy__ | adware and annoying toolbars that come with them |
| 13:00.24 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 13:00.26 | Wormy__ | hi |
| 13:03.08 | ImpyDroid2 | Q: What is a redneck virgin? |
| 13:03.22 | Technodroid | ...wat |
| 13:03.50 | Technodroid | also, does Spartian's will mean he's not coming back? |
| 13:04.25 | Technodroid | ie, not even when his 1 year ban expires? |
| 13:04.46 | HachiSpook | ImpyDroid2: A redneck that's yet to commit to incest |
| 13:05.03 | Wormy__ | Who knows |
| 13:05.17 | Technodroid | also, Ghelae, how did he even give you his will in the first place? 0.o |
| 13:05.25 | Wormy__ | I thought it was just a will encase Spartian dies on the wiki and/or real life. |
| 13:06.10 | Ghelae | He posted it on Angrybirds' political viewpoints blog. |
| 13:06.13 | Technodroid | I was thinking, because, wasn't his 1 year ban meant to be a permaban? |
| 13:06.28 | Wormy__ | I thought he was permabanned |
| 13:06.46 | Ghelae | Apparently, my deletion of his comments no longer shows up in the deletion log. |
| 13:06.48 | Wormy__ | I mean, by policy not the actual length given |
| 13:06.57 | Technodroid | Okay, then I'll permaban him |
| 13:07.05 | Ghelae | Oh, no; it is still there. |
| 13:07.11 | OluapWorker | Permaban him for 1 year |
| 13:07.21 | Technodroid | no, permaban him for permanent. |
| 13:07.32 | OluapWorker | There's no permaban option anymore |
| 13:07.38 | HachiSpook | I though permabans were removed? |
| 13:07.46 | Technodroid | no, there is |
| 13:07.47 | ImpyDroid2 | Spartan is back |
| 13:07.49 | Technodroid | lemme demonstrate |
| 13:07.51 | ImpyDroid2 | NOOOOH |
| 13:08.02 | ImpyDroid2 | > |
| 13:08.18 | ImpyDroid2 | So basically the Scottish are your version of our Chechens |
| 13:08.26 | OluapWorker | If there is then the admins haven't had access to it for years |
| 13:09.00 | HachiSpook | ImpyDroid2: Chechens? |
| 13:09.00 | Technodroid | there we go |
| 13:09.02 | Technodroid | :) |
| 13:09.12 | Wormy__ | Hopefully wikia brought it back. |
| 13:09.17 | Technodroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Spartian300 |
| 13:09.22 | Technodroid | No, we never lost it |
| 13:09.29 | ImpyDroid2 | HachiSpook: That's a nation on the south of Russia |
| 13:09.36 | Technodroid | don't use the drop down menu, just type "indefinite" in the expiry time |
| 13:09.46 | Technodroid | They removed from drop down because they don't encourage it |
| 13:10.19 | ImpyDroid2 | They live in the mountains, fought for a long while to be separate from Russia, and are commonly stereotyped as thugs and chavs in Russia |
| 13:10.40 | ImpyDroid2 | Also they are commonly thought to do... things with their sheep |
| 13:11.00 | HachiSpook | Ah yeah |
| 13:11.04 | HachiSpook | Sounds like Scots alright |
| 13:11.22 | Technodroid | Spartian may well be our only permabanned user now |
| 13:11.35 | HachiSpook | Technodroid: Lorgassssssss? |
| 13:11.43 | Technodroid | Lorgassssss wasn't? |
| 13:11.50 | Technodroid | let's permaban him too |
| 13:12.07 | Wormy__ | Lorgassssssssomanyssssssstoomanyssss's never came back though |
| 13:12.28 | Technodroid | wow, he hasn't edited in 4 years |
| 13:12.35 | Technodroid | I'd feel kinda mean permabanning him now |
| 13:12.45 | Wormy__ | If you are in the habit of permabanning old users please do it to 99cmoney |
| 13:12.56 | Wormy__ | *old trolls |
| 13:13.02 | ImpyDroid2 | http://demotivation.me/images/20110411/gresa8k4ejqj.jpg What are they doing |
| 13:13.04 | Technodroid | He's blocked on Wikia globally |
| 13:13.12 | Wormy__ | Ah yes, I asked wikia to do that |
| 13:13.18 | HachiSpook | ImpyDroid2: Monkey stuff |
| 13:13.32 | HachiSpook | It's vital foreplay to the expansion of the dong |
| 13:13.58 | Technodroid | so Spartian, 99c, who else? |
| 13:14.27 | Wormy__ | What about that troll that used to follow you wiki to wiki, and then started failtrolling Xho and me? |
| 13:15.03 | Technodroid | uh, I can't remember >.< |
| 13:15.06 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.44 | Technodroid | He's not permabanned, he was banned for a year then returned |
| 13:15.54 | Technodroid | Unless we banned him on IRC again? |
| 13:16.10 | OluapWorker | He's banned on IRC |
| 13:16.14 | Wormy__ | He came on IRC some weeks ago |
| 13:16.21 | Technodroid | I don't remember why he was banned though >.< |
| 13:16.22 | Wormy__ | He is nothing but trouble |
| 13:16.27 | OluapWorker | Trolling |
| 13:16.42 | Technodroid | oh, we banned him on IRC again? okay, I'll permaban on the wiki |
| 13:16.51 | Wormy__ | Misbehaving on IRC and then sending several of us angry messages for weeks on IRC |
| 13:17.02 | HachiSpook | Jo's birthday blockage |
| 13:17.05 | OluapWorker | Yes |
| 13:17.19 | Wormy__ | Do it to Wackyy as wewll, that was another extremewly hateful troll I once encountered |
| 13:17.45 | Technodroid | did I not tell you guys before you can still permaban on the wiki? :| |
| 13:18.05 | Wormy__ | nope |
| 13:18.07 | Ghelae | Apparently not, otherwise it looks like they'd have jumped at the opportunity. :P |
| 13:18.08 | HachiSpook | You said that permabanning was impossible now |
| 13:18.12 | Wormy__ | All this time |
| 13:18.57 | Wormy__ | Wackyy threatened to hack and wiki and metaphorically held creatureboy on another wiki hostage, using blackmail |
| 13:19.10 | Wormy__ | if we didn't comply |
| 13:19.30 | Wormy__ | I seriously doubt he could hack the wiki, iot was rather more amusing |
| 13:19.43 | Technodroid | I said it was, because I thought it was |
| 13:20.28 | Wormy__ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Muffospring101 |
| 13:20.34 | Wormy__ | Anyone remember him? |
| 13:20.50 | OluapWorker | Never heard of |
| 13:21.31 | Technodroid | I don't remember |
| 13:22.48 | Technodroid | Wackyy hasn't edited in years |
| 13:23.24 | Wormy__ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Muffospring101 |
| 13:23.49 | Technodroid | yeah, he hasn't edited in years either |
| 13:23.55 | Technodroid | I'm only permabanning more recent trolls |
| 13:24.31 | Technodroid | Otherwise it's just an abuse of power, "ohey we didn't block you permanently back then because we didn't know how but now we know how so here you go" |
| 13:26.51 | Wormy__ | Oh! I thought we were abusing power for the fun of it :P |
| 13:28.41 | Technodroid | well, it's also so the blocked users special lists actually correctly displays people we permabanned |
| 13:28.50 | Technodroid | However, ancient bans will be grandfathered |
| 13:34.09 | Wormy__ | I blocked this user because he was 8, and I knew it was A) against terms of service B) annoyting because kids are annoying http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Hnwarwick/User_talk_archive |
| 13:35.28 | Wormy__ | That was probably my meanest blockl |
| 13:36.00 | Wormy__ | He didn't actually do anything wrong, but I knew he would annoy us and end up getting blocked and then more upset. |
| 13:37.13 | Technodroid | No, underage users are against the wiki's rules |
| 13:40.05 | Wormy__ | I know that, but he didn't intentionally do anything wrong |
| 13:40.42 | Wormy__ | aww "F*** you wormulon" |
| 13:41.05 | Wormy__ | He starred out the rest of the words :P |
| 13:47.55 | Wormy__ | Underwater Paintball Shot 25,000fps - 62,000fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVlW5CVKdpg |
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| 13:51.46 | Vincent20100 | Hey |
| 13:58.07 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 14:09.51 | HachiSpook | Wormy__: You know, it might be just me, but I think that the gods and demons of Hindu mythology are the closest visual representation we might get as to what posthumans might look like in the (relatively) near future |
| 14:10.18 | HachiSpook | As in, prior to sci-fi genre |
| 14:11.30 | HachiSpook | The way Hindu gods are depicted always makes me think they're post/transhumanlike |
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| 14:15.48 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 14:30.29 | drom | After watching the Fury trailer. I get the impression to start a fiction storyarch focusing on a veteran vehicle. |
| 14:31.15 | drom | Also. http://i.imgur.com/1xABX7K.jpg |
| 14:34.41 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/Z5uGQdf.jpg |
| 14:35.48 | drom | Vincent20100: http://i.imgur.com/sAzvwJY.jpg |
| 14:36.39 | Vincent20100 | That's not Russia |
| 14:36.49 | Vincent20100 | It's wrote in Latin alphabet on the signs |
| 14:37.26 | drom | The russian language can be found in both crycllic and latin. |
| 14:37.50 | drom | But yet, it's not russian. Slavia or serbia. |
| 14:38.05 | Vincent20100 | Serbia |
| 14:40.05 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/jQ99o4v.png |
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| 14:44.18 | Hachiman | dumternet |
| 14:57.23 | Wormy__ | science answers all http://imgur.com/gallery/Db2XW |
| 15:00.45 | Wormy__ | HachiSpook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zKmqm_3t7M#t=88 |
| 15:01.48 | drom | Five Nights at Freddy's 2. |
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| 15:01.51 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 15:02.59 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/p9Gph39.png |
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| 16:00.42 | HachiSpook | Hai |
| 16:01.20 | OluapWorker | hi |
| 16:04.45 | drom | hai |
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| 16:14.26 | HachiSpook | Fan-fucking-tastic |
| 16:19.11 | Wormy_away | I just saw your post |
| 16:19.56 | Wormy_away | Well, I'd say that the various polytheist deities are more like superhuman men. |
| 16:20.19 | Wormy_away | and women of course |
| 16:21.29 | drom | I have no idea what to do. And I don't like left hanging. |
| 16:22.13 | Wormy_away | The Greek Gods had all the weaknesses of man really beside mortality. They could be jealous, deceitful and greedy, power hungry and fall for mortal women. |
| 16:23.59 | Wormy_away | Arguably, all thew Hindu gods are reflections of one suprumely powerful force, but yeah |
| 16:32.10 | drom | Wormy_: Since had got fate question unanswered for long, since I can't conclude it myself. Should the Kamanus race be a sci-fi or fantasy? |
| 16:32.41 | Wormy_ | I really can't answer |
| 16:32.52 | Wormy_ | They could suit both universes. |
| 16:33.31 | HachiSpook | Put them in sci-fi |
| 16:35.34 | drom | Let's see if I can make it through while I have 4 WIP pages. |
| 16:41.10 | drom | I have always wondered if two ships, with different masses, using the same engine, will achieve different speeds even using the same acceleration. |
| 16:44.11 | drom | I mean. Eg. a 1 million ton dreadnought using the same engine as a 1 ton fighter. The fighter will accelerate faster due to the mass. |
| 16:45.04 | drom | In vaccum space. Free from gravitiy pull. |
| 16:45.04 | HachiSpook | I think mass and weight means very little when it comes to space |
| 16:45.38 | Wormy_ | HachiSpook: Out of interest, do you keep getting the same notification about the deleted thread on the Uncharted Expanse forum, despite clicking on it? |
| 16:46.25 | HachiSpook | No, not really |
| 16:46.34 | Wormy_ | Mass is universal, weight is dependant on the gravitational acceleration a massive body is in respect to. |
| 16:47.32 | drom | So. It means, for the massive dreadnought to achieve the same speed and acceleration as the fighter, it needs bigger engines? |
| 16:47.37 | Tek0516 | Aye. |
| 16:47.38 | Ghelae | The same acceleration, by definition, will result in the same change in velocity after the same time. But the same engine will result in identical forces, not identical accelerations. |
| 16:47.59 | Ghelae | And those identical forces, applied to different masses, will result in different accelerations. |
| 16:48.01 | Tek0516 | Well more specifically it needs more tptal force. |
| 16:48.18 | drom | Glad that it's cleared up. I had this bothering my mind lately. |
| 16:48.46 | Tek0516 | F=ma. The basic principle of force and acceleration. |
| 16:49.27 | drom | Force = Mass * Acceleration? |
| 16:49.35 | Tek0516 | Yeah. |
| 16:49.43 | drom | Alright. |
| 16:49.55 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 16:50.32 | Tek0516 | And thrust decides how fast it accelerates but its the total force and energy that determines the final velocity. |
| 16:50.43 | drom | Just happened that our recent physics term was about Force = Time * Acceleration. A y = kx formula. |
| 16:51.04 | Ghelae | That should be velocity = time * acceleration (for constant acceleration). |
| 16:51.07 | drom | Eh. I meant. |
| 16:51.10 | drom | Yeah |
| 16:52.12 | Ghelae | That's just from the definition of acceleration: acceleration = rate of change of velocity. |
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| 16:52.47 | Ghelae | Which if that rate of change is constant, is just change in velocity divided by change in time. |
| 16:52.50 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 16:52.56 | drom | Ey |
| 16:53.19 | drom | Just realised that I have got Arma 3. And I instantly got the desire to replay it again. |
| 16:53.20 | DarcySupremest | Goodo morning gentlements |
| 16:53.28 | Tek0516 | Hello |
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| 16:57.46 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 16:58.04 | Vincent20100 | Hey guys |
| 16:58.23 | Tek0516 | Hey |
| 17:05.22 | Technodroid | so it's my birthday blocking |
| 17:05.29 | Technodroid | who else wants to get banned? :D |
| 17:06.11 | drom | For how long? |
| 17:06.39 | Technodroid | dunno |
| 17:06.48 | Technodroid | 1 second? |
| 17:07.26 | drom | I'm good thank you. |
| 17:07.35 | Technodroid | aw |
| 17:08.02 | Technodroid | also, drom, minor thing, but don't link to redlinks unless it's definitely going to become a real page soon |
| 17:08.34 | Technodroid | it creates unwanted stuff in Special:WantedPages |
| 17:08.40 | drom | Note taken. |
| 17:09.38 | HachiSpook | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10416574_10153428839345476_8988856079906163233_n.png?oh=5cb1f8642143f2e9f71269281dc7302e&oe=54ED349A&__gda__=1424687311_52ee2c8f6aeabb9290fea3f46910c6ca |
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| 17:20.12 | Cyrannian | Hello. |
| 17:20.18 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 17:20.50 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:20.51 | Technodroid | hey cyr |
| 17:21.58 | Vincent20100 | Hey Cyra |
| 17:22.44 | Xho | WHAT DID EVERYONE JUST FORGET ABOUT ME OR SOMETHING |
| 17:23.03 | Ghelae | I assume Tek and myself were saying hello to both of you. |
| 17:23.05 | Xho | Okay that's going on IRC moments hur |
| 17:23.10 | Ghelae | I can't explain Jo and Vincent. |
| 17:23.10 | Tek0516 | Mine was directed at both. |
| 17:23.28 | Xho | Actually no maybe not I didn't find it that funny |
| 17:23.33 | Xho | Technodroid: Happy Birthday btw |
| 17:23.46 | Technodroid | thanks ^.^ |
| 17:24.04 | Technodroid | oh, uh, sorry I didn't notice that you joined ._. |
| 17:24.08 | Technodroid | hii |
| 17:24.27 | Tek0516 | Happy birthday |
| 17:24.51 | Cyrannian | Happy birthday! |
| 17:25.41 | Technodroid | :) |
| 17:26.37 | Xho | See I remembered |
| 17:26.40 | Xho | dey didn't |
| 17:26.44 | Tek0516 | Tried looking into lua the other day but that was derailed when WinZip gave me a virus. XD |
| 17:27.57 | Technodroid | aw |
| 17:28.43 | Technodroid | also yeah, xho remembered, the rest of y'all suck |
| 17:28.52 | Xho | hih |
| 17:29.52 | Technodroid | Tek0516, I mostly did Lua on Linux, I'm not sure how to install it on Windows, I'll be honest :/ |
| 17:30.26 | Tek0516 | I found a download on the lua website, it's just in a compressed format. |
| 17:30.38 | Technodroid | ah |
| 17:30.55 | Technodroid | We don't have Scribunto installed yet, but I could as for it now |
| 17:31.44 | Tek0516 | And I tried to redownload WinZip to uncompress it, which gave me a bunch of adware and such. |
| 17:34.05 | Technodroid | I hate adware >.< |
| 17:36.15 | Tek0516 | Changed my search engine to some kind of adware engine that ran on google |
| 17:36.17 | drom | btw, Xho: http://puu.sh/cllVa.jpg |
| 17:37.18 | Tek0516 | *yahoo |
| 17:39.02 | Vincent20100 | What the hell is that game? |
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| 17:42.08 | Cyrannian | Hello. |
| 17:45.04 | Xho | nah m8 |
| 17:45.20 | Imperios | Hello |
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| 17:46.09 | Hachiman | Goddammit |
| 17:46.28 | HachiSpook | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10559723_345126492314719_3463765647237520251_n.png?oh=5b9bd317b6285a4a35d6e89b7f70b610&oe=54EBC4A4 9/11 keks |
| 17:46.34 | CountVonImp | Because why not |
| 17:48.42 | CountVonImp | >you've ruined Hanukkah |
| 17:48.48 | CountVonImp | ...ohgodtheimplications |
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| 18:06.48 | Ghel | Oh, of course. It's Halloween time. I ought to copy everyone using seasonal names. |
| 18:07.23 | HachiSpook | hur |
| 18:07.25 | HachiSpook | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/68962_857427354296901_7027460252914212211_n.jpg?oh=1e0f3abeacbf8c7343649ccbc5e17b47&oe=54E5DEAD&__gda__=1425267152_e4aeeca130e2dcaa9c96f7f1431a6e57 |
| 18:07.26 | Tek0516 | I need to find a punny name. |
| 18:09.48 | rodrom | Mordor backwards |
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| 18:10.58 | rodrom | Aka, reference to the Shining and the Tolkien fantasy. |
| 18:11.14 | Vampi-Vinny | Why not just Mordrom? |
| 18:12.28 | rodrom | It happens that my nick is Mord backwards. |
| 18:12.39 | rodrom | Which means Murder in Swedish. |
| 18:13.00 | rodrom | The shining has got the famous prase "Redrum". Which is simply latter backwards. |
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| 18:34.16 | Angrybirds_ | test |
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| 18:40.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
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| 18:48.27 | TekDroid | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html It's a positive step. |
| 18:49.28 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:49.29 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 18:51.35 | TekDroid | So today's the day to rush your EUIV games. |
| 18:51.40 | HachiSpook | "When the Pope dies, is that a demotion or a promotion?" |
| 19:01.54 | Xho | The church has had that view for years from what I gather |
| 19:02.01 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 19:02.17 | Xho | Anyway I've made a new Kicathian ship, currently thinking of a name |
| 19:02.37 | Xho | Probably the scariest looking ship I've ever made |
| 19:02.39 | rodrom | <mindblowingly long name> |
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| 19:02.48 | TekDroid | Hello again |
| 19:02.54 | Xho | Kicath - yeh |
| 19:05.03 | rodrom | I wonder which ship has the biggest detailed description. |
| 19:05.43 | rodrom | Exclude Jamaymus, because it's a WIP. |
| 19:06.42 | TekDroid | Simple, find whatever page in the vehicle category is longest. :P |
| 19:06.43 | rodrom | happi halloweeeeee- |
| 19:07.54 | rodrom | Is there a special search where I can use to search for the page with biggest [server disk] size under the vehicle namespace? |
| 19:10.45 | TekDroid | Just a second... |
| 19:12.12 | rodrom | Found the "Special:LongPages". But it does only display the main namespace |
| 19:12.13 | TekDroid | I know there's a special articles section which iirc has a "long pages" itens. |
| 19:12.18 | TekDroid | Ah. |
| 19:12.29 | rodrom | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:LongPages |
| 19:13.01 | TekDroid | Damn. |
| 19:13.39 | rodrom | Sucks balls that you can't do nothing else than that. |
| 19:14.16 | Xho | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141029191259/spore/images/0/0b/ApocryphaClassDreadnought.png Apocrypha-class Dreadnought |
| 19:14.33 | rodrom | Oh boy. Found the page where you can upload more than 1 file at the same time! |
| 19:14.52 | rodrom | kewl |
| 19:14.59 | TekDroid | Really. O.O |
| 19:15.42 | rodrom | Yes. It's marked as restricted though. While I can access it, it's only for registered users. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:MultipleUpload |
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| 19:15.58 | Ghoulae | Hello. |
| 19:16.35 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 19:16.38 | TekDroid | Neat. |
| 19:20.18 | rodrom | And then I found a page listing members. |
| 19:20.23 | rodrom | This wiki has got 13 bots. |
| 19:21.05 | rodrom | Roughly only 4 of those are active. |
| 19:22.30 | rodrom | One of the active bots haven't edited since 2012, and it's watching us. |
| 19:22.32 | rodrom | Spooky. |
| 19:23.12 | DrodoGMod | 2spooky |
| 19:24.13 | rodrom | Aha. I can even use this to spy who is watching us. |
| 19:24.27 | rodrom | Because it logs their "Last logged in" |
| 19:25.37 | rodrom | It doesn't necenssarily mean that they are looking into our wiki. It's probably because this logging is global. |
| 19:25.50 | rodrom | 4301 non-grouped users though. |
| 19:51.12 | Hell_worm | Ghoulae: You are looking rather ectoplasmic |
| 19:51.31 | Hell_worm | You have a spooky light green tinge |
| 19:51.37 | Ghoulae | Why, thank you. |
| 19:51.58 | Ghoulae | You're looking quite... wormy. |
| 19:52.05 | Ghoulae | Unfortunately, your name is a shade of purple rather than infernal red. |
| 19:53.11 | Hell_worm | Maybe Hell is freezing over? |
| 19:53.52 | Ghoulae | Or its become infested with worms. |
| 19:56.21 | Hell_worm | Plenty of undead for undead worms to feast on |
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| 19:59.00 | Monet | hi |
| 20:01.05 | Ghoulae | Hello. |
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| 20:06.01 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 20:07.13 | Ghoulae | Hello. |
| 20:08.18 | HachiSpook | So apparently a dad was sent to prison ten years ago under rape claims from his 11 year old daughter and has only now been released because the daughter came out and confessed that she couldn't bear the guilt of knowing she put her father in prison |
| 20:08.41 | HachiSpook | And she's not getting charged with anything because the prosecutor feels it would discourage actual rape victims from coming out about their issues |
| 20:09.39 | HachiSpook | Need I mention that her rape claims were falsified |
| 20:10.05 | Monet | Which country? |
| 20:10.17 | HachiSpook | USA |
| 20:11.39 | Monet | Then meh. This is the country where it is now a law that Monsanto cannot be demanded product recalls. |
| 20:13.02 | Imperios | America is full of weird people hur |
| 20:13.04 | TekDroid | That name sounds familiar. Think there was a knockoff of it in a show I like. |
| 20:13.36 | Monet | TekDroid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto |
| 20:14.26 | Monet | They're an agricultural biotech company that have become notorious for questionably genetically modified seeds |
| 20:14.54 | TekDroid | The knock-off company makes some big discover and is one of the corporations that sieze control of a bankrupt North America in the mid-21st century. XD |
| 20:15.16 | HachiSpook | Monet: You're not anti-genemod food are you? |
| 20:16.02 | TekDroid | And that description soumds exactly like the corporation in the show. XD |
| 20:16.07 | DrodoGMod | I'm not. :P There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. |
| 20:16.10 | Monet | HachiSpook: No. I hate Monsanto because it does it in a really greedy, shoddy and underhanded practices |
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| 20:17.47 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
| 20:18.49 | Ghoulae | Hello. |
| 20:18.56 | Monet | I see promise in genemodded crops. |
| 20:19.26 | TekDroid | Aye. |
| 20:20.05 | TekDroid | Most GMO hate probably doesn't understand what most of it really is |
| 20:20.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:20.55 | Ghoulae | And a lot of it is probably conflated with hatred of Monsanto and such corporations. |
| 20:20.56 | Monet | Wait...I'm sure my stance on modified crops themselves was already known about? |
| 20:21.17 | Monet | Might have been a while ago though |
| 20:21.17 | DrodoEmpire | We where genetically modifying crops since the beginning of time; Its just now we can do it with far more precision. |
| 20:21.26 | Monet | Exactly |
| 20:21.51 | TekDroid | Most of the big modification comes from making it last longer, resist disease, etc. |
| 20:23.51 | Monet | Wel lthere is possibly some potential harm to come from the natural pest/disease resistance. But all food contains at least a tiny amount of toxins. |
| 20:23.51 | TekDroid | "Natural" food is practically unrecognizable by comparison. |
| 20:24.38 | Ghoulae | The "unnatural" argument is meaningless when it comes to safety anyway (although if individuals don't want to eat any foods for any reason, that's their choice). |
| 20:25.36 | TekDroid | If humanity grows it it is GMO. |
| 20:26.43 | Ghoulae | The argument is more along the lines that directly going into cells and adding new genes is unnatural, while selective breeding is just the same sort of mechanism as natural or sexual selection. But this isn't actually true, horizonal gene transfer is ubiquitous in nature. |
| 20:26.51 | Monet | By "natural" in this case I mean the method inside the GM crop rather than an external pesticide |
| 20:26.58 | Ghoulae | Less common for multicellular organisms, but it's still been known. |
| 20:27.47 | Monet | Some people have an issue with what they call "Playing God" but agian we've been doing that for millenia in a way. |
| 20:27.57 | TekDroid | Pretty much. |
| 20:28.17 | Monet | I don't recall German Shepards or Labradors being mentioned inthe Bible... |
| 20:28.21 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 20:28.54 | TekDroid | Any kind of domesticated animal both livestock and pets are a form of GMO. |
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| 20:29.29 | Monet | SOme people unfortunately don't se the similarity |
| 20:29.36 | Monet | Like fundies |
| 20:29.59 | ImpyDroid | Hm? |
| 20:30.22 | Monet | I've had many a conversation with those wh oassume selective breeding is vastly different from natural selection, which it isn't. |
| 20:30.52 | TekDroid | selective breeding is just semicontrolled natural selection. |
| 20:31.17 | ImpyDroid | Ya |
| 20:32.02 | Ghoulae | Although I don't know for sure, my suspicion is that a lot of anti-GMO attitude is actually anti-corporate rather than pure ignorance, one of many cases of people ignoring facts for ideological reasons and probably without realising that those facts can be seperated from the ethical problem (in this case, GMOs do not equal biotechnology megacorporations having control over the food supply). |
| 20:32.39 | TekDroid | Probably true as well. |
| 20:33.00 | Monet | Doesn't Monsanto hold an iron grip o nthe American agricultural indsutry or something? |
| 20:33.53 | Monet | I swear I recall that Monsanto had a share in 80% of something in the US. It was either of all GM crops or of all crops grown |
| 20:34.31 | Ghoulae | Perhaps. |
| 20:34.57 | Ghoulae | 80% of all GM crops seems the most reasonable, but it could be the latter for all I know. |
| 20:38.02 | TekDroid | I see something about controlling 80% of the US' corn. |
| 20:38.23 | Monet | That's probably it. |
| 20:38.32 | Monet | That's al ot of corn. |
| 20:38.40 | Monet | a lot of corn* |
| 20:38.59 | DrodoEmpire | "On a lighter note, I'm not sure *how* I could ruin it" - I think Glynn hit the nail on the head there... XD |
| 20:39.10 | TekDroid | Also apparently 90%+ of soybeans |
| 20:39.48 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 20:40.35 | TekDroid | Of course the results I saw those statistics on were both anti-GMO promotion sites so not sure how reliable they are. |
| 20:40.54 | Monet | They must control a sizeable portion of the market to have profit magins of +2.5bln a year and shares worth $110-115 apiece |
| 20:41.04 | Hell_worm | A lot of these ecowarrior groups fighting GM (and similar close nit groups) are very uncritical of their own leadership. I remember this group that tried to destroy golden rice through vandalism. One of the members discovered it was saving millions in East Asia from blindess and starvation, and all hias group was doing was hindering its research. He spoke out in a conferenace and was kicked out of his group |
| 20:41.05 | Monet | margins* |
| 20:41.08 | Hell_worm | despite being right |
| 20:41.59 | Hell_worm | So yeah never trust a gang of people who let ideology cloud their judgment, whether they think they are doing right or not, they are usually wrong./ |
| 20:42.41 | TekDroid | "Natural" hardly means "better" |
| 20:43.20 | Monet | "have soem water, straight from the river with absolutely no treatment to it" |
| 20:43.26 | ImpyDroid | First world problems.avi |
| 20:43.42 | Hell_worm | You can can distinguish them by lookinng at the following traits: Are they arguing something other than rationally? Are they intolerant to new ideas and unchanging in their beliefs? Do they use deception? Are they cult-like? |
| 20:43.57 | ImpyDroid | I wonder what would these ecowarriors do if they were, say African |
| 20:44.17 | ImpyDroid | As in actually born in Africa, not African American or stuff like this |
| 20:45.55 | Hell_worm | I'm not hating on all environmentalism and we should be critical of corporations like this Monsanto |
| 20:46.26 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
| 20:48.36 | Angrybirds_ | Bunch of new edits to this, if anyone's interested: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Orion_War We should be done soon :D |
| 20:48.57 | Hell_worm | But fighting GM on personal prejudice is just stupid and i can see that it is unhelpful in the progress of making safer GM products, it has fantastic potential to help those in need. |
| 20:50.57 | ImpyDroid | Huh, I like this discussion |
| 20:51.13 | ImpyDroid | We're basically thinking and discussing the fate of entire nations |
| 20:51.39 | Hell_worm | How so? |
| 20:52.17 | ImpyDroid | Well developed countries are in many ways dependent on GM products and humanitarian aid |
| 20:52.34 | Hell_worm | Whether GM will save the world we can't really say |
| 20:53.40 | Hell_worm | But we can try of course |
| 20:53.56 | Hell_worm | Encouraging aquatic organisms to eat more carbon |
| 20:54.12 | Hell_worm | Or modifying crops to live in changed climates |
| 20:54.26 | Hell_worm | or changing climates rather |
| 20:55.31 | Hell_worm | Controversially, I support geoengineering, I'm probably very hate-able for it. |
| 20:55.40 | Hell_worm | or at least its research |
| 20:56.52 | Hell_worm | There is very few plans, only on the fringe, in adapting to our civilisation to live in higher temperatures, or plans to try and lower the temperature (although recently its been shown that might be beyond our control) |
| 20:57.51 | Hell_worm | Again, there will be people trying to denounce it for reasons other than being scientific, that it is "unnatural", or that technology will always doom us. |
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| 20:58.18 | Hell_worm | But sustainability will fail |
| 20:58.57 | TekDroid | Yeaj. |
| 20:59.28 | Hell_worm | Even at all costs, trying to sustain the climate even if we cut all emissions won't stop the inevitable change in climate. I remember from my lessons in climate, the projected predictions are quite dire even if we cut them now. |
| 20:59.29 | TekDroid | You cannot make finite resources last forever. |
| 21:00.09 | TekDroid | Yeah, effects are unavoidable right now. |
| 21:00.16 | Hell_worm | That at sustainability is not a thing to seek. Civilisations have died about because they were often sustained too well and became static societies |
| 21:00.46 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 21:00.47 | Hell_worm | A good dynamic society is one that is always seeking solutions to its problens |
| 21:01.53 | Hell_worm | Such solutions might well involve technological interventions, like GM, like geonengineering, to actually adapt our way of life or change the Earth in a more desirable way. |
| 21:02.11 | Xho | I wonder how big my Apocrypha-class Dreadnought is |
| 21:02.19 | Xho | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141029191259/spore/images/0/0b/ApocryphaClassDreadnought.png For those who haven't seen |
| 21:02.39 | TekDroid | 80 billion light years. |
| 21:02.47 | Hell_worm | This is the Anthropocene after all. We have to accept we are a geological agent and possibly a very potent one. And always will be, and always have! |
| 21:02.50 | rodrom | 4+ universes |
| 21:03.12 | Xho | Xhodocto - guise stahp |
| 21:03.42 | Hell_worm | Who built it, the Kicath? |
| 21:03.49 | Xho | Yup |
| 21:03.50 | Hell_worm | Its very good btw |
| 21:03.51 | rodrom | Damn. I would gank up Techno to get privileges to edit the .js files so I can this useful code that allows us to remove the namespace from our fiction articles. |
| 21:04.03 | rodrom | In the name. |
| 21:04.58 | Hell_worm | I'm not sure if wikia allows us to edit the javascript. At least we are very limited. When I looked into it, its off access because wikia wantas to avoid potential virus being embedded |
| 21:05.01 | Xho | The largest Kicathian Dreadnought is 29,753 m |
| 21:05.12 | Monet | rodrom: You mean as in "Fiction:" ? |
| 21:05.14 | Hell_worm | Same on Wikipedia |
| 21:05.18 | rodrom | Monet: Yep. |
| 21:05.18 | Xho | Or 97,615 ft |
| 21:05.32 | Monet | rodrom: Its also for organisational purposes. |
| 21:05.56 | Monet | The Fiction: section makes it clear it isnt' a mainspace file |
| 21:06.07 | Hell_worm | I'd rather the namespaces not be removed, at least by if it can't be optional. The point is to seperate content from the namespace.# |
| 21:06.30 | Hell_worm | javascript could make it optional |
| 21:06.34 | Monet | ANd I can understand wikia restricting javascript code |
| 21:07.09 | Hell_worm | Its a shame, I am teaching myself javascript and would love to play with it on the wiki. |
| 21:07.12 | TekDroid | Keep in mind we also have pages with shared names like Earth and Planet:Earth |
| 21:07.18 | Jepardi | http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/amLARNd_460s.jpg |
| 21:08.01 | TekDroid | Neither of which can really be overwritten |
| 21:08.51 | rodrom | Well. You know that you can modify the .js. That you can also include a text showing the full name underneath the cloaked header. |
| 21:10.08 | TekDroid | I'm still going to have to disagree, once again due to conflicting page names. |
| 21:10.59 | rodrom | I think I need to chill my tingling senses. |
| 21:12.02 | Ghoulae | In case there was any confusion, I think drom just means that when you go on a page, you'll only see the title part of the page, not the namespace. Planet:Earth will still be in the Planet namespace, for example, but when you go on the page you'll see "Earth" at the top. |
| 21:13.14 | Wormy_fiction | http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:JavaScript_and_CSS_Cheatsheet |
| 21:13.39 | Wormy_fiction | It might be possible, I think Wikia only gives us a limited number of options to edit the .js |
| 21:14.43 | TekDroid | I'm aware it's just superficial. But the header would still make them appear to be the same page. |
| 21:15.54 | Ghoulae | Perhaps a better option, if possible, would be to make the namespace title smaller, so it's still visibly there but not so... well, I'm sure someone who actively supports it could come up with an appropriate adjective. |
| 21:21.58 | DrodoEmpire | "This is the TRUTH that Big Watermelon doesn't want you to know about." - https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10678538_812368495480914_7013239409111588308_n.png?oh=68aa6e400abdcec46f019a825e4f8822&oe=54B04E49&__gda__=1425212195_2480d0cc92cd0057cf203fe19b1f737e |
| 21:23.26 | TekDroid | Lol |
| 21:23.44 | Xho | According to my friend my ruling policy is "Fair but firmly cruel" |
| 21:24.27 | Xho | A better way of saying 'blunt' I guess |
| 21:26.41 | Xho | http://mrambisinistrous.deviantart.com/art/Apocryphal-class-Dreadnought-Profile-491444925?ga_submit_new=10%253A1414617953 Well I stole Drom's image layout #topkek |
| 21:27.31 | Xho | Pretty sure I've got my vehicle making skills back |
| 21:29.41 | Monet | http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/23/travel/gallery/china-unusual-architecture/ |
| 21:30.11 | Monet | I blame Chinese clients hiring architects who designed trouser-shaped buildings. |
| 21:30.36 | Monet | And whoever decided that a building in the shape of a giant brass dick was a smart idea. |
| 21:34.27 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:34.32 | DrodoEmpire | I actually like a lot of them |
| 21:35.19 | Monet | Thay are definitely whimsical. |
| 21:36.06 | Monet | But this may be one of those cases where executives appear less in-the-loop than the public. |
| 21:36.59 | Monet | Although then again I wouldn't be pleased either if some joker published a defaced image of my multi-million dollar building with another multi-million-dollar building so it looked like some dude's crotch. |
| 21:37.48 | Xho | That CCTV Headquarters building tho |
| 21:37.53 | Xho | such engineer |
| 21:37.58 | Monet | The nI'd think "I approved and spent all those millions on what everyone sees as a giant crotch" |
| 21:38.34 | Monet | Rem Koolhaas - Physics is amazing! |
| 21:40.00 | Xho | All these proposed buildings exceeding 3,000 ft in height though |
| 21:40.03 | Xho | tis madness i say |
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| 21:40.22 | Monet | The best architects are often the ones with the oddest ideas |
| 21:40.52 | Monet | http://ad009cdnb.archdaily.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/5272d364e8e44e88a000073f_zaha-hadid-designs-superyacht-for-blohm-voss_zha_b_v_birdseye_view_128m.jpg this is Zaha Hadid's idea for a boat, for instance |
| 21:41.05 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 21:41.29 | DrodoEmpire | Anyhow, I think I'll give the NCR a rest for now; Who should I do next for the mod? |
| 21:41.29 | Monet | http://media.gizmodo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/zaha-hadid-yacht.jpg some more shots |
| 21:41.45 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: DI :P |
| 21:42.22 | Monet | THese boats eixst and have been built |
| 21:42.50 | DrodoEmpire | Anywhere in particular? |
| 21:42.52 | DrodoEmpire | Well that depends on where you want them |
| 21:43.45 | Monet | Hmm. |
| 21:44.00 | Monet | For some reason I wonder if they suit being in place of the Ottoman EMpire |
| 21:44.19 | DrodoEmpire | I could put them in Anatolia |
| 21:44.48 | Monet | That works |
| 21:44.54 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 21:45.17 | DrodoEmpire | I think I'll finally post screenshots and information about the NCR and Drodo I have done |
| 21:47.09 | Xho | Monet: At work we print off brochures and guides for yachts, some of them go into excess of £150 million |
| 21:47.49 | Monet | Hadid's design must be on the high end |
| 21:49.04 | Monet | Sometimes I wonder if the superrich live in a completely different reality to the rest of us considering the sorts of things various design firms make. |
| 21:49.56 | Monet | Oh wait, no, I think they definitely do considering the number of them who can't comprehend what it's like to live off £18,000 a year before taxes. |
| 21:52.04 | Xho | I wonder how much it would cost to make that ship I did |
| 21:52.14 | Xho | Technically nothing since I made it in Spore but I mean real life costs |
| 21:52.58 | Monet | Do you want a real-world value or a value if humanity was tier 2? |
| 21:53.11 | Ghoulae | You're asking how much it would cost to build an intergalactic dreadnought? |
| 21:55.08 | Xho | Both hur |
| 21:55.27 | Liquid_Ink | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFCuE5rHbPA |
| 21:55.30 | Xho | I dunno exactly the length of it |
| 21:55.33 | Monet | If real life...leaving out the Oracle computer, the superadvanced guns and anything else that is infiesable by modern standards apart from the stuff that prevents it from snapping in two when its engines fire...Building one would bankrupt thep lanet for centuries to come |
| 21:55.55 | Ghoulae | Even without the advanced technology which would probably bankrupt the Earth in R&D costs alone, I suppose you could consider it in terms of a huge sophisticated boat. |
| 21:55.55 | Xho | The Kicath might have splashed out on the size |
| 21:56.36 | Monet | For a tier 2 civ a comparable value would be something like maybe $10-60bln if the US$ was scaled up appropriately |
| 21:57.32 | Ghoulae | I suppose you could consider it as, roughly, how much would it cost to build a military dreadnought the size of one of those things (ignoring whether or not it could actually float or stay intact). |
| 21:58.43 | Monet | Yeah one of the obstacles is we have yet to work out the materials to build something that big that doesn't break apart under its own mass. |
| 21:59.10 | Ghoulae | Without having the technology, we don't know how much the technology would cost. |
| 21:59.36 | Monet | R&D we're looking at multi-trillion figures. |
| 21:59.56 | Monet | But as I said - much more fiesable for a t2 civ so the costs would be much lower for them |
| 22:00.14 | Xho | Unless you're a Kicath then there's no such thing as money hur |
| 22:01.33 | Monet | Sohuldn't it be "unless you're not a Kicath" |
| 22:01.40 | Xho | Would the Kicath's economical ideals inflate the price as well |
| 22:02.19 | Ghoulae | If we compare it to a supercarrier... supercarriers are currently less than 350m long, so imagine the proportional increase in dimensions and you'll probably have a more-than-proportional increase in cost just to build a vessel that big. |
| 22:02.25 | Xho | Kicath could be ultra-cheap bastards when it comes to their tech |
| 22:02.51 | Monet | Inflate probably because then we'd have to rely on foreign price values |
| 22:02.54 | Xho | I was thinking that that Dreadnought was in the 50 - 70km mark |
| 22:03.26 | Monet | Or deflate because ot get to that state, materials must be in such abundance that they're virtually infinite |
| 22:03.26 | Ghoulae | Assume 20 times larger along all dimensions = 8000 times larger in volume. |
| 22:03.53 | Ghoulae | No, you'd need 200 times for 70km. |
| 22:03.58 | Xho | We'll generate a random number between 50,000 and 70,000 and see what we get |
| 22:04.05 | Ghoulae | So 8 million times the volume. |
| 22:04.10 | Monet | Eight. |
| 22:04.12 | Xho | 67,739 m then |
| 22:04.13 | Monet | Million |
| 22:04.20 | Ghoulae | No, cubing 200 in my head is easier than cubing a random number. :P |
| 22:04.32 | Xho | Kicath - u mad i think u mad |
| 22:04.58 | Xho | It probably costs as much to make an Agent as it does to construct a ship really |
| 22:05.21 | Ghoulae | So let's say a supercarrier costs around $1 billlion to build. Assuming proportional volume price increase, that makes a Kicath dreadnought-style ship $8 quadrillion. |
| 22:05.29 | Xho | Jesus |
| 22:06.11 | Monet | This is my main complaint with no-money economies: If you don't want a money ssytem you're going to need some other form of mutual exchange. |
| 22:06.41 | Monet | Currency is a thousand times more versatile than bartering. |
| 22:07.06 | Ghoulae | Even at $10 million per supercarrier you're looking at a dreadnought worth more than global economy. |
| 22:07.30 | Xho | Kicath do have external economies, it's a simple concept but probably much more complex in practice |
| 22:07.51 | Monet | So wait |
| 22:08.16 | Monet | You asked us how much a superbattleship would cost...for a civilization that three the concept of currency out the window? |
| 22:08.24 | Monet | threw* |
| 22:08.54 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:09.02 | Xho | #shitsandgiggles |
| 22:09.09 | Monet | Well you got an answer anyway. |
| 22:09.18 | Ghoulae | Which is why I tried to work it out in 2014 terms. |
| 22:09.36 | Xho | But yeah if the Kicath were to sell one of those Dreadnoughts I imagine it would be costly no matter who you are |
| 22:11.05 | Monet | Draconis - We have over 200 billion scientists and over five trillion engineers. We can compete. |
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| 22:11.35 | Ghoulae | In a situation where such a dreadnought costs the equivalent of $1 billion, a supercarrier (perhaps a typical carrier starship for the 29th century) would cost $125. |
| 22:11.53 | drom | Is it about some dreadnought shenanigans right now? |
| 22:11.56 | Xho | Kicath - ur not our target audience |
| 22:12.09 | Ghoulae | Xho asked how much it would cost to build one of his dreadnoughts. |
| 22:12.32 | Xho | We estimated that the bare structure of one of them in 2014 money is around $8 quadrillion |
| 22:12.40 | drom | Well. Tbh, it would be alot worse if it wasn't for the economy. |
| 22:12.44 | Monet | Draconis - True, we're not after nodick boasting. |
| 22:12.52 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Operation_Marines/SporeWiki_Fictions_for_Europa_Universalis#Completed_Nations - Got the info for the Drodo down, plus a few screenshots |
| 22:12.58 | DrodoEmpire | I'll do the same for the NCR |
| 22:13.25 | Xho | Kicath - shup and go gild ur ships wit gold |
| 22:13.55 | DrodoEmpire | Refresh the page; I forgot to add a footnote |
| 22:14.26 | drom | I went ahead and created a header template for myself. |
| 22:14.28 | drom | +50 ego |
| 22:14.56 | Monet | Draconis - :okay: |
| 22:15.47 | drom | Naakji - gold is obsolete. git cosmonatie |
| 22:16.00 | DrodoEmpire | Any thoughts, anyone? |
| 22:16.08 | Monet | Draconis - *goes off to spend 10 years decorating a single ship* |
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| 22:16.57 | Xho | Kicath - y'all just need sum oracle hypercomputin' give us 200,000 systems and we'll gib u one |
| 22:17.04 | drom | Xho: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium |
| 22:17.06 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: I can't comment since I'm not involved |
| 22:17.15 | drom | Me neither. :S |
| 22:17.18 | Monet | "Nobles provide a ready-made pool of well-educated people to lead armies and work in the administration; That said, they do not take kindly to us taking their money away..." >> I lol'd |
| 22:17.58 | Monet | Draconis - Alright if you sign this document here *slides over a Pax Draconica request* |
| 22:18.05 | Xho | Nu - my dick is made of unobtainium Tau - u aint got no dik Nu - 'xactly |
| 22:18.08 | Monet | request form* |
| 22:18.43 | drom | Mu - ugh, shaddap invisibru dickwaving |
| 22:19.32 | drom | Monet: Coat the ship in unobtainium. |
| 22:20.05 | Monet | Drodo: Administrative Monarchy -> No king >> Will one be added later? |
| 22:20.32 | Monet | drom: THat's silly because unobtanium is a dream material. |
| 22:20.47 | drom | ikr? |
| 22:20.49 | Monet | Besides, even if gold is "obsolete" due to no-money, its still pretty |
| 22:21.23 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Well the way it works is that it'll say "King No Ruler" as a standin; It'll just randomly generate one on game start |
| 22:21.24 | Ghoulae | All starship are probably covered in what we'd think of as unobtainium. |
| 22:21.29 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry for the wait |
| 22:21.35 | drom | Xho: You gotta pay me a lung transplant. |
| 22:21.45 | DrodoEmpire | I'm changing its government, anyhow |
| 22:21.57 | Monet | I see, thanks for the heads up |
| 22:22.24 | drom | inb4 "Kicathian Surgery Simulator 2800" |
| 22:23.05 | Monet | Although we have "d2_goliath" and "drodoian_hussar", I think those names might need polish |
| 22:23.49 | Monet | Its cosmetic but it did draw my eye a bit |
| 22:24.55 | DrodoEmpire | I know. :P |
| 22:25.02 | DrodoEmpire | I still need to localize those |
| 22:25.32 | DrodoEmpire | I made one mistake by accidentily making the unit's description its display name. >.< |
| 22:25.43 | DrodoEmpire | For the last Cyrannian infantry |
| 22:25.44 | Monet | Whoops lol |
| 22:26.00 | drom | Xho: Rev up your demn tf2 hype car |
| 22:26.29 | drom | http://www.teamfortress.com/bloodmoney |
| 22:26.40 | drom | new tf2 comix |
| 22:26.49 | Monet | The imperium feels like an outlier by being the only T2 superpower that still has a monetary economy. |
| 22:26.56 | Monet | :hipsterdragons: |
| 22:28.10 | Monet | Most likely because the Imperium relies on the support of huge corporations, wealthy nobles and trades with everyone. |
| 22:28.16 | Wormy_fiction | The war in the Orion Sectors is reaching its penultimate conclusion http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Orion_War#Emboldened |
| 22:28.32 | DrodoEmpire | I wonder if I shouldn't replace this one description with a quote... |
| 22:28.37 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I think I might |
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| 22:31.32 | Wormy_fiction | hi |
| 22:31.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Cyrannian |
| 22:31.52 | Cyracula | Hello. |
| 22:32.03 | drom | heyo |
| 22:32.24 | Xho | Drom: "This is my lung now." - Nu |
| 22:32.50 | drom | Me - *gnarling* |
| 22:33.40 | Ghoulae | Hello. |
| 22:34.00 | drom | Also Xho: TF2 Karts https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1932350_10152769914793936_5068926346064083321_n.png?oh=5260886f9803295b689a9054218bd971&oe=54F2D42A&__gda__=1420495893_35a92e15305f5aba1673c10e4cadcc2d |
| 22:38.35 | Xho | whet |
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| 22:41.40 | Hachiman | Had to restart |
| 22:43.05 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Operation_Marines/SporeWiki_Fictions_for_Europa_Universalis#New_Cyrannian_Republic - Cyracula this may interest you |
| 22:43.31 | DrodoEmpire | The NCR is almost finished; I just need to imput the names, maybe change the ruler title, and add cavalry units |
| 22:43.42 | DrodoEmpire | WHich in this case would, obviously, be armoured vehicles. :P |
| 22:45.08 | Cyracula | Looks great! I really need to get this game! |
| 22:45.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yay! :3 |
| 22:45.52 | DrodoEmpire | Well seeing as a major expansion is coming out tomorrow, it'll be on sale then. :P |
| 22:46.36 | DrodoEmpire | And seeing as I am terrible for procrastinating, you'll have plenty of time to brush up on EUIV before the mod's released |
| 22:46.58 | TekDroid | Hopefully everything won't break horribly tomorrow. XD |
| 22:47.42 | DrodoEmpire | Hopefully! |
| 22:48.01 | TekDroid | I'll be starting a new game anyway. |
| 22:48.17 | TekDroid | Been meaning to try a Prussian game. |
| 22:48.44 | Monet | I think it make ssense to put the DI in the Ottoman Empire. |
| 22:49.10 | Monet | If I recall my history, the EMprie enters a golden age after 50 years. |
| 22:49.49 | drom | 2muchciv5 |
| 22:50.03 | Monet | Not really |
| 22:50.17 | Monet | 1490s-1570s was I think the Ottoman EMpire's peak |
| 22:50.41 | Ghoulae | I'm going to go now. Bye! |
| 22:50.46 | drom | See ya |
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| 22:50.53 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Around there yeah |
| 22:51.18 | Monet | I'm starting to wonder if Austria's location would suit the DI more but that puts me in the middle of everyone and not much coastal space. |
| 22:51.28 | Monet | puts them, sorry |
| 22:51.40 | DrodoEmpire | And smack-dab in the HRE. :P Good luck mate |
| 22:51.42 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 22:52.04 | drom | Silly question, can you start in Greenland? |
| 22:52.09 | DrodoEmpire | Sort-of |
| 22:52.23 | TekDroid | Greenland is uncolonized at start. |
| 22:52.26 | DrodoEmpire | Most of it is wasteland except for two tiny provinces worth barely-anything |
| 22:52.30 | drom | What are the exceptions then? |
| 22:52.39 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean? |
| 22:52.41 | drom | Ah. I see now. |
| 22:52.51 | DrodoEmpire | As well I think Austria is too essential to the game for it to be completely left out as well |
| 22:52.54 | TekDroid | I think they're adding more greenland provinces though. |
| 22:53.02 | TekDroid | Agreed. |
| 22:53.04 | drom | I meant about what it a "sort-of". |
| 22:53.09 | DrodoEmpire | They start as Holy Roman Emperor and stay relevant through the whole game |
| 22:53.21 | Monet | "Emperor Francis II dissolved the empire on August 6, 1806, after its defeat by Napoleon at the Battle of Austerlitz." I thought the HRE broke up long before, guess I was wrong |
| 22:53.39 | TekDroid | By 1806 it had lomg been an empire in name only. |
| 22:54.01 | TekDroid | It was just officially done then. |
| 22:54.25 | drom | Is there tundra provinces in russia and cananda? |
| 22:54.52 | Monet | Francis II - Ya know vhat, fick it, ze EMpire is a lost cauze. |
| 22:55.18 | DrodoEmpire | Some, yeah drom |
| 22:55.23 | TekDroid | Well actually at that point Napoleon just defeated Austria. |
| 22:55.27 | TekDroid | IIRC. |
| 22:55.58 | drom | DrodoEmpire. I guess NC would occupy Greenland and Iceland as starting provinces. |
| 22:56.26 | Monet | Yeah I figured. Once napoleon kicks your arse you may as well give up |
| 22:56.44 | TekDroid | Correction, Napoleon just beat the HRE and Russia in that battle. |
| 22:57.12 | Monet | Together? |
| 22:58.09 | TekDroid | Yep. Napolean vs HRE-Russia |
| 22:58.21 | Monet | Dayumn |
| 22:58.34 | drom | Let's see. They are strongest during winters and meanwhile in tundra and arctic environments. -25% effciency in warmer climates. The summer stacks with additonal -25% Outside Tundra and arctic. |
| 22:58.38 | TekDroid | http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Austerlitz |
| 22:59.21 | TekDroid | I don't think EUIV allows effectiveless in terrain or temperature. |
| 22:59.33 | Monet | I might stick with Anatolia. Alcanti is a generally warm planet and the Ottoman Empire probably probably had more credibility towards being the heirs of Rome than Germany was. |
| 23:00.16 | Monet | Even if that credibility came form basically occupying the Eastern empire |
| 23:00.30 | TekDroid | For Farengeto a location I've been considering is the western Mediterranean islands. |
| 23:01.04 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry for not responding; Doing some hardcore MLG modding right now |
| 23:01.33 | TekDroid | lol |
| 23:02.35 | Monet | Iceland and greenland are a bit...out the way I think |
| 23:02.35 | drom | TekDroid: Do you think that vulnerability can be assinged as a perk, which then repelled by positive efficiency in said climate and terrain? |
| 23:02.55 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | No. |
| 23:03.00 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | It can't. |
| 23:03.11 | drom | Bah. |
| 23:03.13 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | I could try giving them negative attrition modifiers |
| 23:03.20 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 23:03.20 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | But that would apply everywhere |
| 23:04.15 | drom | Outside their own territory? |
| 23:04.15 | Monet | ALso come to think of it being in Anatolia would give me an edge in regards to the Silk ROad regions and Northern Africa |
| 23:04.27 | drom | That would just make up an OP defense. |
| 23:04.28 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | Yeah |
| 23:05.09 | Monet | has spent way too much time with the Imperium lol |
| 23:05.56 | TekDroid | IIRC there's a nation which has -10% attrition in its ideas. |
| 23:06.31 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | Steppe hordes have -20%, too |
| 23:06.32 | FaZe_DrodomLgM0d | I could give them something similar |
| 23:07.05 | TekDroid | But they're hordes. |
| 23:07.14 | drom | What's different between hordes and nations? |
| 23:07.26 | drom | (in factors) |
| 23:08.31 | drom | Actually, scrap that. I have to go now. Sorry for the trouble writing a long reply. |
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| 23:27.33 | Tek0516 | Because I'm in Software Engineering my family expects me to know what every model of computer part is. >.< |
| 23:28.35 | Monet | That's quite a tall order |
| 23:29.23 | Monet | Its like expecting a car dealership owner to know the specs of every single car model in production |
| 23:29.39 | Tek0516 | Well my sibling is looking for a new laptop and they're basically asking me "Is [part/spec] good?" |
| 23:30.38 | DrodoEmpire | There, Cyrannian names all coded up |
| 23:31.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its a small pool, but it'll do |
| 23:44.47 | Wormy_fiction | Tek: If people know you specialise in rocks, they tend to make you identify any stone they pick up. And its often boring rocks, and the same old ones over and over. |
| 23:46.06 | Tek0516 | Also I'm good at math so I should be able to calculate the amount of tax or tip on something mentally. |
| 23:47.56 | Wormy_fiction | Computers are such a complex subject with lots of fields of study, so of course, you can't know everything |
| 23:49.57 | Tek0516 | I'm expected to know everything about computers and electronics after 2 months of 1st year software. |
| 23:59.26 | Monet | I think my dad was the same when I started my architecture course. |
| 23:59.43 | Monet | By the end of the first term I think he expected me to know how to design an entire building. |
