IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141014

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00:13.07DrodoEmpireHey!
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00:15.32TekDroid*Hello
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00:47.16Vincent20100Angrybirds: Nice photo...
00:48.02Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Glenn_Duval.jpg
00:52.01AngrybirdsDanke.
00:54.02Vincent20100that's how we look in 2800?
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00:54.29AngrybirdsVincent20100: That's an Andorian. o.O
00:55.09MonetGoodnight
01:10.53DrodoEmpireI sort of wonder just how racially-diverse the Drodo Empire is; I never compiled a full list of species. :P
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03:36.10GD12Sup y'all
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03:43.43GD12Yo, just a random comment, on your Faragneto military page, it says the As Volant is a tank :)
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03:56.52DarcySupremestHello?
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04:35.59DarcySupremestDang, I'm a long time lurker and I want to discuss the fictional universe stuff. So I guess when somebody in that authority comes online I'd like to chat about that
04:36.12DarcySupremestanyway before then I'm going AFK
04:40.20TekDroidChat's pretty dead at this hour.
04:41.04TekDroidMany of our major users are in the UK.
04:44.58TekDroidGenerally at this hour you only really have a few lurkers in the Americas.
04:46.18DarcySupremestI'm a lurker from the colonies as I'm sure English folk don't say
04:47.55DarcySupremestI've been fairly interested int he whole Fictional Canon thing and I actually have spent the better part of the end of my High School years working on my own empite for it because I thought it was a really sweet idea.
04:48.22TekDroidWe're always open for new users.
04:49.10DarcySupremestAnd seeing as I graduate in like 20 something days and I started working on said empire like It'd have to be like, one or two years ago by this point
04:49.22DarcySupremestI figured it was finally time to get them out in the open
04:50.31TekDroidWow. You'll probably have to tweak some things to ensure continuity but it sounds like you have a good start.
04:52.49DarcySupremestYeah I'm starting to wonder if my idea of "Warhammer SportyK is still original anymore
04:54.38TekDroidWe'll have to see what you've got once you can get an empire page up.
04:56.48DarcySupremestI was going for a very Imperium of Mankind sort of thing, like a quasi theocratic empire with ideals of contempt and hatred for all things not their race and the belief that the only way their kind will be forgiven for its sins is to conquer the universe
04:56.54DarcySupremestWhich I know sounds really mary sue
04:57.14DarcySupremestwhich is frowned upon, but trust me when I say that is the abridged version
04:57.56DarcySupremestSo I kind of wanted help setting it up and collaborating it in such a way so as that I don't...you know break anything else when I try slot it into place
04:59.30TekDroidGenerally If you keep things justifiable and reasonable you'll generally be fine.
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05:00.41TekDroidSorry, wi-fi sucks here.
05:00.54TekDroid[00:59] <TekDroid> Generally If you keep things justifiable and reasonable you'll generally be fine.
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05:01.19TekDroid[00:59] <TekDroid> Generally If you keep things justifiable and reasonable you'll generally be fine.
05:01.57DarcySupremestYeah I figured, and I don't intend to break anything
05:02.02TekDroidWhere did you plan to put your fiction?
05:02.22DarcySupremestHow do you mean,?
05:02.57TekDroidHave you thought about which galaxy or cluster ypu'd want your empire in?
05:04.03DarcySupremestThats the issue I wanted help with
05:05.37DarcySupremestI was thinking of having it in a very WH40k nature of saying that the empire of pure hatred of could potentially be like an apocalyptic threat if they weren't so inept at running and empire and so unwilling to change
05:07.00DarcySupremestAs in, if they were a more organised empire they could be a very serious threat but as of right now their ineptitude has brought their conquest to a pathetically slow pace
05:09.26TekDroidGiven that we've already had apocalyptic threats both magical (Xhodocto, etc) and physical (Dominatus, etc) be care with those.
05:10.38DarcySupremestYeah, I take it that it isn't easy to get my own sort of....relegation?
05:11.00DarcySupremestAs in they could be nice and far away
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05:15.11TekDroidDamn wifi.
05:15.12TekDroid[01:08] <TekDroid> Given that we've already had apocalyptic threats both magical (Xhodocto, etc) and physical (Dominatus, etc) be care with those.
05:15.12TekDroid[01:12] <TekDroid> Each cluster also tends to have different styles, so take a look at what kind interests you. For example Xonexi (where my fictions are located) is often more hard sci-fi but has the fewest restrictions on joining and participating.
05:16.17DarcySupremestSo like, is there a difference between Clusters and Galaxys?
05:16.24DarcySupremestI'm a little curious about that
05:16.37DarcySupremestI mean
05:16.39TekDroidMostly arising from how the users conduct theor fiction.
05:16.41DarcySupremestin regards to fiction here
05:16.51DarcySupremestNot in an astronomy sense, haha
05:17.19DarcySupremestSo I take it clusters are bigger?
05:17.39TekDroidThe current galaxies are currently split into three clusters.
05:18.06TekDroidXonexi, Cyrannia and a third newer one who's name I forget.
05:19.08DarcySupremestAh okay that makes sense
05:19.21DarcySupremestSo what did you mean when you said Hard Sci Fi?
05:20.02TekDroidmodern Xonexi is generally more harder sci-fi, with RPs more focused on empires, while the other two are typically softer sci-fi and more character-based.
05:20.37TekDroid"hard" and "soft" sci-fi refer to their scientific accuracy, basically.
05:20.52DarcySupremestI definitly like super accurate sci fi
05:21.26DarcySupremestI take it there is nowhere for Grimdark?
05:22.44TekDroidWell even our hard sci-fi takes a few liberties for plot. I'm not the best versed in knowledge of the Gigaquadrant though.
05:23.45TekDroidThis is a good basic explanation of hard sci-fi if you're curious. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness
05:25.56DarcySupremestWell yeah libertys are sure to need to be taken
05:26.06DarcySupremestThats what makes it Science, Fiction
05:26.51TekDroidAnd while I hate to disappear in the middle of a conversation I'm afraid I've got an early class in the morning so I've got to go and get some sleep.
05:27.41TekDroidNight #SporeWiki!
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07:12.00DarcySupremestSo in regards to that I'm expressing interested in creating a new Galaxy for this fanon with a stronger focus on a more Darker and Morbid Story focus
07:12.20DarcySupremestmuch like WH40k, where nothing is really getting better for anyone and death is an ever present reality
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10:00.41DarcySupremestI have to keep on and off and eye on this
10:00.45DarcySupremesthururr woe is me
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11:58.55DazelHello
11:59.44OluapPlayer~cuddle Hachiman
11:59.44infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
11:59.51Hachiman<3
12:17.05Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/TW5AH1M.png?1 So here's something I made for the Fantasyverse
12:22.19OluapPlayerur a chap chimp
12:22.21OluapPlayerchamp eve
12:22.23OluapPlayern
12:22.36Hachimanur a cump
12:22.44Hachimanchump even
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12:24.46ImpyDroidHachiman: Dem munkis
12:25.07Hachimanyee
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12:33.28ImpyDroid2Hachiman: http://rs1img.memecdn.com/and-i-tought-asians-were-smart_o_851389.jpg Kalcedia's true form
12:33.59HachimanNo that's just your standard Thai teenage male
12:34.21ImpyDroid2hur
12:35.45HachimanAlso I need a name for the Munki's capital city
12:35.46HachimanSomething stylish and Far Eastern sounding, preferably Chinese hur
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12:37.09OluapPlayerChing Chong Ping Pong
12:37.33Hachimanhur
12:38.09HachimanImpyDroid: I need a name for the Munki's capital city, something stylish and Far Eastern-sounding, preferably Chinese-like hur
12:38.23ImpyDroidRiiiite
12:39.31ImpyDroidRemind me, what is the official monkey capital?
12:39.48ImpyDroidoops
12:39.52ImpyDroidI meant colour
12:39.54HachimanOh
12:40.20HachimanWell the Munki like bright colours like gold and white and red
12:40.33HachimanEven though they're brownish themselves
12:41.58ImpyDroidGaojing
12:42.05ImpyDroidHigh Capitol
12:42.23HachimanNice, I like it
12:42.31HachimanThanks
12:48.32ImpyDroidAlso could there be Flora Drakes in Ar-Klith?
12:48.38ImpyDroidI am going to rework it soon
12:48.53HachimanI guess o yeah
12:48.55Hachiman*so
12:49.01HachimanSo long as you leave a quote on their page hur
12:49.47ImpyDroidrite
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12:53.31Hachimanhai
12:53.42OluapWorkerhee
13:08.06Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Munki So the page is started
13:09.44DazelYou're going to have to manually fix the diet thing.
13:10.01DazelNo matter what you put, if you use the form, it comes up as "On," so you have to edit that without the form.
13:10.08HachimanI don't care about the diet thing
13:10.20OluapWorkerAngry monkey people
13:10.20HachimanI've been here long enough to not let it bother me
13:10.37OluapWorker"risk dishonouring their heritage and spoiling the meaning of their efforts and goals"
13:10.40OluapWorkerSHAMEFUR DISPRAY
13:11.00HachimanAye hur
13:11.11HachimanThey share a few cultural aspects with the Lagosi
13:11.34HachimanSuch as upholding personal pride and not wanting to make yourself look like a fool or letting down your culture
13:12.05OluapWorkerThat's to be expected
13:12.14Dazel"bro u got a boner"
13:12.16Dazel'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'
13:12.58OluapWorkerSeems like the Munki won't have a whole lot of friends
13:13.28HachimanWell part of their philosophy is that if you help them they'll help you back in most circumstances
13:13.37HachimanBut yeah they are a bit unpleasant
13:13.46DazelWhat is the general language spoken in the Fiction?
13:13.59OluapWorkerWhat's the Sovereign's opinion on them?
13:14.10HachimanThe Sovereign doesn't like them very much
13:14.26HachimanThe Munki have probably raided and attacked the Aithrena several times and vice versa
13:14.35ImpyDroidEmpire - FRIENDS FOR LIFE
13:15.07HachimanAlthough any official conflict between the two isn't present at current, they just keep to themselves and try not to get in each other's way
13:16.24OluapWorkerSea Witch - yeh go be friends with the other monkeys
13:16.36HachimanDazel: There's no real general spoken language in the primary fictionverse as everyone uses translators to communicate, while in the Fantasyverse everyone tends to speak New Common
13:17.12OluapWorkerAren't there Lagosi living in the Honsaru Domain?
13:17.48DazelAh, I see.
13:17.58HachimanThere are yeah
13:18.20HachimanThese are the descendants of the Lagosi that decided not to leave the mainland
13:18.33HachimanAnd instead live as vassals of the Munki
13:19.27OluapWorkerI imagine the Merovar aren't very fond of them either then
13:19.35OluapWorkerHonsaru Dongmain
13:19.35HachimanThe Lagosi of Min Lagosi aren't that keen on the Honsaru Lagosi, while the Honsaru Lagosi think that Min Lagosi is dum because they don't benefit from the industrialisation and political connections like the Munki do
13:19.53OluapWorkerpolitical connections -> everyone hates them
13:20.47HachimanWell the Munki are actually pretty keen traders
13:21.30OluapWorkerI don't see how considering how hostile they seem
13:21.32OluapWorkerto be
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13:23.04Wormyhi
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13:25.02Hachiman_Fucking goddammit
13:26.55Hachiman_I wouldn't call the Munki hostile or xenophobic, just too snobby and stuck-up for their own good a lot of the time.
13:26.58Hachiman_Their vassal states and slaves are treated farely well and are allowed to own estate within their cities outside of Gaojing and the Munki make sure to repay favours, whether it'd be military assistance or resources and the likes
13:28.31OluapWorkerI should let you write about them before making assumptions I guess
13:29.24Hachiman_You don't like them?
13:30.31OluapWorkerOh no I do like them
13:30.40OluapWorkerI'm just saying I'm making wrong assumptions
13:32.20OluapWorkerI don't understand how they work yet, that's all
13:32.57Hachiman_Ah right I see
13:33.06Hachiman_I can see how you'd think they would be hostile though
13:33.34Hachiman_I guess the way I write things isn't as precise as I thought it was hur
13:34.28Dazelhttp://community.spore.com/static/image/500/198/282/500198282024_lrg.png << This came up in the results for "primelephas."
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13:36.21ImpyDroidOluapWorker: Hmmm
13:36.35ImpyDroidAm I wrong in imagining the Merovar sounding like Khajit?
13:36.41OluapWorkerYes
13:37.53OluapWorkerIf they were to sound like a TES race they'd sound like Argonians
13:37.59OluapWorkerYou know, lizards and not cats hur
14:03.29Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Munki#History So this is what I have so far
14:08.31OluapWorkerExpand Dhong
14:08.54OluapWorkerLooks good to me
14:09.29OluapWorkerThere's some stuff in it already listed in the Lagosi page's history section so I was already expecting some stuff like the war with the Lagosi to be mentioned
14:10.00Hachiman_If you have any suggestions I'd be open for them
14:10.11Hachiman_As in for what they could have done with other nations in the past
14:10.34OluapWorkerOnly thing I can think of is maybe make a mention of the Flora Drakes
14:10.39Hachiman_Ah yeah
14:18.40Wormy_ngh maths work http://pastie.org/pastes/9647237
14:19.21Wormy_all that to say if A and B are equal then they are true
14:33.14Wormy_Ooh I've thjought of a direction I could go in
14:34.05Wormy_Actually, nevermind
14:34.59Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Munki#History So updated history, I'm open for suggestions for what the Munki could have done with other nations and what they're doing in the modern day
14:35.47OluapWorkerAdopted Qhomthell as their alpha male
14:36.08Hachiman_hur
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14:40.30Hachiman_Gotta brb
14:40.34Hachiman_giv suggestions pls
14:40.43Hachiman_Oh and hai Jo
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15:10.04Hachiman_rite back
15:20.39Hachiman_welcum bak fgt
15:20.49OluapWorkerhai waifu
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15:22.20CyrannianHello.
15:23.30OluapWorker~punch Cyrannian
15:23.36infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
15:23.38Cyrannian~tickle OluapWorker
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15:23.48CyrannianWormy_: Delta Rising is released today!
15:23.50Vincent20100CYRA!!!!
15:23.54CyrannianHai vincent
15:23.59Vincent20100hugs Cyra,,,
15:24.05DazelVincent.
15:24.14DazelI'm the one you just told to come onto IRC.
15:24.15DazelI'm the star.
15:24.15DazelIt's me.
15:25.23Vincent20100Ho, hey!
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15:28.56ImpyDroid2I just realised: the Empire of Man is in good terms wih every single East Asian-inspired culture of Koldenwelt
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15:30.22Hachiman_Empire of Man is weaboo as fuck hur
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15:32.23Xhome
15:34.15Wormy_Cyrannian:  Shame I'm not at home
15:34.20Wormy_Oh wait
15:34.27Wormy_I installed it on my laptop
15:34.36Wormy_yey
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15:36.48JepardiHi
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15:47.31Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrandia_Wars - I updated the introduction and the infobox
15:51.06OluapWorkerYou done good lil waptor
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15:56.56CyrannianHi
15:57.09Hachiman_Gotta say I do anticipate the conflict between Antediluvian and the Primercer
16:00.23CyrannianDanke, I like writing about the battles between the Primercer's forces and the various Acolytes of Anteddy
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16:01.12AngrybirdsHey!
16:05.49dromEy!
16:10.15dromXho: http://i.imgur.com/BQzTpgL.jpg
16:13.21DazelI made this template: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_item
16:13.24DazelIs that okay?
16:14.13Technobliteratorno
16:14.23Technobliteratorif it's for fiction purposes alone, you need to include "fiction" in the title
16:14.33DazelOh, okay.
16:14.34Hachiman_Pretty unnecessary
16:14.44Hachiman_Why would you make a page for *objecys*
16:14.47Hachiman_*objects
16:14.52DazelIf you don't find it neccessary, you don't have to use it.
16:14.58DazelBut I can think of several things I would use it for.
16:15.58Technobliteratorit is otherwise fine, several fiction infoboxes are barely used anyway
16:16.07Technobliteratorjust needs "fiction" in the title if it's purely for that purpose
16:16.24DazelOkay, thanks.
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16:20.36XhoDrom: aye
16:21.46CyrannianOoh, Xho is now playing Shadows of Mordor. You must have a pretty advanced computer for it to run smoothly
16:24.43Vincent20100Did I sleep with fifty three women...or a woman who was fifty-three?
16:24.52Vincent20100Xho, your quotes are the best
16:26.38Vincent20100https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153281549734698&set=p.10153281549734698&type=1
16:32.52dromRead a repugant while eating. It saved my stomach from eating more this disgusting casserole.
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16:35.13Cyrannianbrb
16:35.44dromNuuuuh
16:36.34Vincent20100No Cyra! No!
16:37.08Vincent20100Ho my gosh,..
16:37.18Vincent20100My portugalgame is getting out of control
16:37.29Vincent20100First, Pskov formed Russia, out of freaking no whereç
16:38.31Vincent20100Than, I inherit naples
16:38.54Vincent20100Than Ireland conquewr most of british isles
16:39.00Vincent20100Da fuck is going on?!
16:39.07Hachiman_https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1904019_368078516692633_6507310888518931400_n.jpg?oh=2617402abe7b21d4be7fab1906193278&oe=54C0D6FB&__gda__=1421991858_02c3dd5f6c035eea73f7eeca9ebd7a23
16:39.32Vincent20100Not sure I'm gettin this one Hachi
16:39.39Vincent20100Not sure I want to either
16:40.55dromVincent20100: Compare the man with the sign.
17:16.08Vincent20100Cyrannian?
17:16.39dromGive him the time he needs.
17:17.11Vincent20100grrr...
17:17.14Wormy_drom:  About anyone here is better than me at doing maths, and you like science.  So what do you know of probabilities?
17:17.42Wormy_I've done probability calcs before but this this one compares two probabilities
17:18.01Wormy_You see, I've got two random integers (1,2) set up in my program
17:18.25Wormy_That are compared.  I know 1/2 equals 0.5
17:19.04Wormy_But its really 1,2 * 1,2, which equals 1, which isn't clearly the case when I run the sim
17:19.24Wormy_I'm trying to program fuzzy logic you see
17:20.15Wormy_Because 1 = truye and triggers an event
17:20.26Wormy_oe 2 matching with 2
17:20.31Wormy_Oh wait
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17:23.19Wormy_Ah yes, weighted probabilities
17:24.28Wormy_No longer confused
17:24.32Wormy_hi
17:26.09Cyrannianyay, STO finished updating
17:26.12Cyrannianbbl
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17:31.07Vincent20100NO!
17:31.09Vincent20100CYRA!
17:31.14TekDroid...
17:31.27Vincent20100cryies over Cyra's dead body.
17:32.47XhoCyrannian: I do but I don't run it at highest specs
17:32.54XhoBah he's gone
17:33.06TekDroid*Darth Vader voice* No Vincent, I am Cyra! *maniacal laughter*
17:34.09Vincent20100~cookie TekDroid
17:34.35TekDroid~give Vincent20100 a cookie
17:34.36infobotACTION gives Vincent20100 a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
17:34.51Vincent20100Chocolate!
17:35.04Vincent20100eat the cookie like ifm he hadn't eated for days
17:37.47Hachiman_I wouldn't be surprised if Cyrannian is annoyed with all the attention you want from him
17:38.07Hachiman_I know I would be
17:40.05Vincent20100bof
17:42.43XhoHachiman_: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=372054082956739&permPage=1
17:43.10Hachiman_ohgodlol
17:43.36Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Munki Also chek dis
17:45.35XhoStill think you should change their name
17:46.55XhoLarge wars going on in the western world and the Shiarchon are just sitting there with popcorn
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17:50.28Hachiman_Hai
17:52.47OluapWorkeryteehee hai
17:55.37Vincent20100shit
17:55.42Vincent20100just found the alien...
17:59.02dromWormy_ Sorry I for not answering you. But I haven't found the time.
18:00.05Wormy_its okay, I remembered about weighted probsbilities
18:01.29Vincent20100drom: can you kill the alien?
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18:03.22Hachiman_Vincent20100: Nope
18:04.38ImperiosHi guys
18:05.27OluapWorkerohi
18:05.30Hachiman_Hai
18:05.44OluapWorkergo work on Mequelet or your D&D char hur
18:05.55Vincent20100dammit
18:13.45ImperiosThat's what I am doing right now u
18:15.21OluapWorkergud
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18:16.57Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Munki So this is what I have thus far
18:17.16Hachiman_Note the character "Yhanlin" at the Individuals section
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18:17.55Xhoy noet
18:18.08Hachiman_becuz he b important
18:18.13XhoLonginus - piercing swag is not hi enuf
18:18.18Hachiman_If anybody has any suggestions relating to history or characteristics or such feel free to give them
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18:20.52OluapWorker"there have been records of Munki hybrids with other deiwes species, most often humans"
18:21.07OluapWorkerSea Witch - TWO MONKEYS BREEDING IS JUST A MONKEY
18:21.12Hachiman_hur
18:21.25XhoKalarah - this type of shit is why elves are racist
18:21.31Hachiman_Sea Witch is Frieza and Yhanlin is Goku hur
18:21.53OluapWorkerSea Witch - THE PRINCE OF ALL SAYINGS
18:22.04OluapWorkerNo wait that's Vegeta
18:22.10XhoHachi in that case is Krillin
18:22.11Hachiman_olol
18:22.34OluapWorkerDies very often but gets the hot girl in the end
18:22.38OluapWorkerSuppose it fits
18:23.03XhoKinmo - except clotho average looking                   just pointin out facts
18:23.12OluapWorker4 u
18:23.32XhoKinmo - standards r high                  only girl who likes me at the moment is horny succubus
18:24.16OluapWorkerHamoins - i dunt like u i just want sex
18:24.24XhoKinmo - oh well                   dun care
18:24.31Hachiman_Hachi - yee
18:25.06ImperiosWait
18:25.08ImperiosYhanlin
18:25.12ImperiosWhy do I think of WITCH
18:25.20Hachiman_Dunno why do you hur
18:26.02Hachiman_Also his face may not say it but Yhanlin is supposed to be a somewhat happy and cheery character hur
18:26.05OluapWorkerHonsaru Domain more like Jimmy Dongmain
18:26.22Hachiman_olol
18:26.39OluapWorkerRustled the Lagosi so hard they fled off the continent
18:27.00XhoSo rustled that their rabbit faces became gorilla faces
18:28.12Hachiman_Introduce Yhanlin beating up some dudes -> "Ssh, no tears now. Only dreams."
18:28.28OluapWorkerhur
18:29.47OluapWorkerSo much for happy and cheery
18:29.51ImperiosXho: The Munki assimilated them
18:30.07XhoLiterally
18:30.23XhoAssimilation by rustling
18:30.24Hachiman_I could have it so that Yhanlin fights good most of the time but fights better when he's drunk hur
18:30.37XhoPelagrios - u sir         hav a lot to learn
18:33.43ImperiosNow you make the Munki sound like Warcraft pandaren hur
18:33.46ImperiosDrunk Chinese furries
18:34.11Hachiman_You haven't heard of Zui Quan then hur
18:35.08ImperiosI know about that hur
18:40.08Hachiman_brb gotta restart
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18:47.55Hachimanbak
18:50.16OluapWorkerhai
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19:02.01DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
19:02.05DazelHi.
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19:10.29GhelaeHello.
19:11.28HachimanHoly shit
19:11.40HachimanJust got X-Com: Enemy Unknown for free
19:11.46XhoUnholy shit             there            blasphemy
19:12.22HachimanI had to vote for a few nominations for this Golden Joystick competition and link my Steam account up to Playfire and I got X-Com free just for voting
19:13.38Wormy_hi
19:14.47dromHachiman: I joined the votings last year for the Mafia II. Got nothing.
19:15.07HachimanThat's unfortunate
19:15.21HachimanI know I've got it though cuz it's there in my library downloading right now
19:22.22Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Skaurovirn dere
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19:31.53TekDroidHello
19:33.17GhelaeHello.
19:34.28XhoOluapPlayer: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bz7mc5OCEAE_J9m.png Mortium the Lazy Reaper
19:35.02OluapWorkerGet in the bag
19:41.31XhoWell I'm bored now
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19:47.52ImperiosXho: How do you think mortals waged war against Cali's servants when he was ruling the world
19:47.59XhoWell
19:48.08XhoMost of the time, they probably didn't
19:48.21ImperiosFor some reason I imagine the conflicts of that time were closer to partisan war/raids
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19:52.47GhelaeHello.
19:52.53Technobliteratorhi
19:52.55DazelHi.
19:54.05ImperiosHi Jo
19:59.01Imperios~test
19:59.01infobothmm... test is not funny
20:00.51ImperiosHachiman: Do you think Ahmalrich's rebels and Mequelet's soldiers could have faced each other before she joined the Wardens?
20:04.25XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxazFhQ60N8 Too much metal in one place
20:10.58HachimanImperios: Most certainly
20:12.18OluapWorkerClotholaire - bitch wus angry cus i got the d and she didnt
20:12.22ImperiosHm
20:12.32ImperiosShould one say "of an inferior race" or "of inferior race"?
20:12.42OluapWorkerFormer
20:13.47HachimanGonna go shower brb
20:14.03HachimanSee you all next week hur
20:14.26OluapWorkerI can confirm this
20:14.26XhoI'm gonna go to sleep I think
20:14.36Xho6:25 starts are taking its toll now
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20:18.07dromDazel: Incase you are wondering. I haven't yet figured out an answer for your message to NC. And they don't really like sudden alliances.
20:18.22DazelThat's all right!  I expected as much.
20:18.31Dazel(Although I think we're technically already allies?)
20:18.40ImperiosI googled "inferior race"
20:18.52ImperiosOne of the first images showed a Scottish woman
20:18.53ImperiosOuch
20:19.54OluapWorkerhur
20:21.12dromMine showed an Amercian
20:22.30DazelI got Native Americans.
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20:27.39ImperiosAnd speaking of which http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZr_OG9TT3M
20:34.19Angrybirds_test
20:42.44OfficerJackalAngrybirds_: Kind-of-belated-but-not-really loud and clear!
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20:54.36dromI feel very peppered to start developing a RTS-based 4x space game.
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20:57.05GhelaeHello.
21:00.37HachimanBack
21:00.42HachimanAww he left
21:02.23dromI'm thinking the 4X style would be similar to Spore's space stage. But more stratergic and etc.
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21:11.46TekDroidHello
21:14.05GhelaeHello.
21:14.53GhelaeI'm going to go now. Bye!
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21:15.10dromTekDroid: Do you think we from Sporewiki, along potential volunteers if we would need a bigger force, are able to make an Unity game, 4X RTS based game, like yours but in 3D and more features.
21:16.15TekDroidI'm don't know anything about 3D currently.
21:17.31TekDroidBut I think it could be possible.
21:19.07dromUnity does support JavaScript (called UnityScript however) and C#. But I don't have experience with multi-language integration. So I'm pessimitic about it.
21:19.57dromWhat's the best application of JavaScript in your experience and opinion?
21:20.36TekDroidI actually haven't used Javascript or C#. :/
21:21.37dromOh. So it's simply "Java" you write?
21:22.41TekDroidJava and a bit of Python is the languages we've covered in school, I haven't gotten around to working with others.
21:24.38TekDroidA lot of the basic syntax should be similar
21:24.43dromIf you know an abstract language such as Java, you should be able to get easier in touch with JavaScript and C# once you learn their equialvent syntax.
21:25.40TekDroidThe C languages seem to be common in the more base level programming.
21:25.45TekDroidbrb, gonna DC.
21:25.50dromSee ya
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21:27.26Tek0516This week is looking fairly light in terms of workload.
21:29.33Tek0516If we can get some volunteers who know what they're doing it should be possible.
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21:32.54dromYup. The conecpt of the 3D "battlefield" would like as Spore's galaxy in the space stage. I mean, the stars are also dependent on the z-position.
21:34.53Tek0516I lpve it whenever a game properly acknowledges the third dimension.
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21:35.21ImpyDroidhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mequelet_the_Blooded Started working on her backstory
21:35.25ImpyDroidtake a look
21:35.36dromPut that in the same size as Spore's galaxy, and have an alternative that generates more stars for the galaxies. Everything that CIV has, time acceralation and pace.
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21:38.06Tek0516Hello
21:39.43Tek0516We can look into it at the very least.
21:40.45Tek05163D Space strategy games always have been a lomg term ambition of mine.
21:40.48ImpyDroidHachi?
21:40.50dromAll we need is a working planet management system, governors and fleet system at first.
21:41.41dromgovernors to take care of planets and other systems that you don't want to manage or when your hands are too full when managing 10+ star systems.
21:42.07Tek0516Agreed.
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21:43.59Monethello
21:44.11Tek0516Hello
21:44.24ImpyDroidHi Mon
21:44.40dromCIV5 was a letdown when it didn't have a feature when you went for domination/elimnation victory conditions.
21:44.46dromthat feature*
21:46.00Monetwhat featutr?
21:46.08dromGovernors
21:46.09Monetfeature*
21:46.32dromAI that takes care of your cities when your hands are too full, or when you are simply too lazy.
21:47.31Tek0516Some players like full control but others would rather reduce their micromanagement.
21:48.02Angrybirds__test
21:48.04dromIf SCII professionals such as the koreans.. why won't they give CIV5 a try?
21:48.12Tek0516Angrybirds__: pass
21:48.30MonetSCII is a twitch game though
21:48.41DrodoEmpire^
21:48.52dromMicromanagment is a bitch though.
21:48.55DrodoEmpireAnd personally I prefer EUIV. :P
21:49.01DrodoEmpireTo some; Not to others
21:49.09Tek0516Oh, so last night some guy popped in on IRC who's apparently been lurking on the wiki for a couple years. Seems we actually do have silent fans.
21:49.16DrodoEmpireHuh
21:49.25DrodoEmpireWas he that Majora person?
21:49.44Tek0516No, can't remember the username now though.
21:49.51HachimanNo Majora was Dazel
21:50.00DrodoEmpireOh, okay
21:50.27dromAnd Dazel is Qvalador. Incase you wonder.
21:51.44Tek0516And while there should be micromanagement ability you should try to avoid overdoing it unless you have automation.
21:52.56dromTek0516: I don't really know much about EUIV in experience, but if we make a lightweight version (less complicated, to fit a easily taskable multiplayer) and combine with the game. I think it would dramaticly change the mechanics, so your faction will depending on your actions, like your balance on a tight rope.
21:55.39Tek0516Definitely a possiblity.
21:57.39Tek0516While I hadn't begun implementing it, factional differences was something I had begun to look into.
21:57.59dromDazel: To answer your question you gave to me lastly, "Informally" is the answer.
21:59.22Tek0516Can't tell if I was lagging there.
21:59.33dromTek0516: And make sure that the factional differences also include political variants, democracy, republic. So players can face different variants of management.
22:02.58dromBah. I gotta get to bed.
22:03.00dromSee ya.
22:03.27Tek0516I have a lecture starting in a few minutes anyway. XD
22:07.03Tek0516~test
22:07.03infobotmethinks test is not funny
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22:50.03MonetLooking at SoM footage I'm sort-of glad that Mordor in the game has bits that are green unless I am mistaken.
22:51.19HachimanThat really doesn't suit the nature of Mordor
22:53.32HachimanMonet: I managed to get X-COM: Enemy Unknown for free for voting for nominations for the Golden Joystick awards and linking my Steam profile up with Playfire, since the GJ awards were giving away free copies for voters
22:53.44MonetSweet
22:54.18MonetOn the contary, I recall Tolken describing Mordor to be quite fertile due to the nutrient-rich volcanic soil from Mount Doom.
22:54.29HachimanHmm
22:54.37HachimanActually yeah that makes sense
22:56.11TybusenAs much as lava doom worlds are portrayed as desolate, I would imagine they would be great for growing crops because volcanic soil has a lot of nutrients
22:56.17MonetAlso it sets the game apart (although not entirely since there are still a few bits) from being yet another next-gen game that uses a depressing colour palette
22:58.18MonetTybusen: Exactly.
22:59.56TybusenMaybe a lot of imperialist villains who have lava worlds as their central territory are actually using the lava world as an agricultural base for their empire
23:00.12TybusenThough of course we never see this side of it
23:00.39AngrybirdsEvil sith lords are secretly farmers.
23:01.24MonetActually I don't recally any sith lord with a lava obsession.
23:01.41TybusenMustafar is the only lava planet I'm aware of in the Star Wars universe
23:02.04MonetExar Kuun base his operations on the jungle planet Yavin and the traditional home of the sith is Korriban which is a lot like Mars.
23:02.16Monetjungle moon of Yavin IV sorry
23:02.28TybusenJungles make for terrible agriculture
23:02.45MonetPLenty of exotic fruit though
23:03.12TybusenI find it so greatly ironic that the most lush environments in the world are the worst for agriculture, yet the most desolate like deserts and lava wastelands are perfect for farming
23:03.25TybusenGiven proper irrigation, at least
23:03.53MonetDeserts it depends where you go I think
23:03.55AngrybirdsEgyptians - What is starvation?
23:04.41TybusenDeserts are pretty fertile once irrigated precisely because nothing grows there naturally
23:05.02MonetOther Egyptians - Its that thing that happens ot the country when the Nile doesn't flood one year.
23:05.43TybusenYeah, the thing about wasteland farming is that you're pretty much going to starve if your irrigation system fails
23:07.32MonetHere's a scary thought: You know that temple the Rebels used as a base in A New Hope?
23:07.57DrodoEmpireyeah?
23:09.51MonetI think I read in Star Wars Incredible Cross Sections there's a secret chamber at the very top of it that contains an array to channel Force energies for Exar Kuun.
23:10.05MonetOr something like that
23:10.18Wormy_Yeah
23:10.32Wormy_I knew they were xconntected to hm
23:11.04MonetTHe Massassi did build those tempels in his honour
23:12.13MonetNo wait those tempels were t oNaga Sadow
23:12.18MonetANother Sith lord
23:14.06Wormy_I like the artstyle how graphic novels depict those times
23:14.36Wormy_Almost old fashioned yet interstellar
23:14.40MonetAlthough Kuun sealekd this dued in hibernation in 3996 BBY and was woken up during the Battle of Yavin when a TIE bomber crashed into the underlevels.
23:14.46Monethttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kalgrath
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23:16.50DarcySupremesthey
23:17.08MonetHi
23:18.22DrodoEmpireHello
23:18.47DarcySupremestI was here last night but nobody was online!
23:24.13HachimanHai
23:24.59Tek0516Hello again.
23:25.16DarcySupremestAh I was wondering if that was you or not
23:25.18HachimanI wonder if any of our civilisations had to put up with AI uprisings, not in the sense that they'd want to eliminate their creators but seek for their own independence from their creators' state
23:25.59MonetHmm, good question.
23:26.11DarcySupremestThe Geth did that in ME3 didn't they?
23:26.20HachimanLike say a group of likeminded synthetics want to separate from their parent nation so that they can be recognized as their own people
23:26.21DarcySupremestThe Quarians just, didn't let them is all
23:26.21MonetI like to think that AIs such as androids probably wanted more and mroe rights over time.
23:26.48HachimanDarcySupremest: Yeah and the Quarians genocided them for it
23:26.51MonetDarcy: No the Geth uprising was simply an act of self-defence
23:27.06DarcySupremestYeah Geth4lief
23:27.17DarcySupremestI like the Quarians but damn Geth are cool
23:27.32MonetA Geth asked if their kind have souls, the Quarian technition it asked got scared and they were al lrecalled for decomission.
23:27.41HachimanYeah Geth are pretty cool
23:28.02TekDroidYeah.
23:30.09DarcySupremestSure hope they're not all dead like then Destroy ending implys
23:31.08HachimanWell I think the fate of the Geth depends on your actions on the Quarian homeworld
23:31.33HachimanThe Destroy ending I don't think would destroy the Geth if you chose to save them or managed to get the Quarians and Geth to truce
23:31.58MonetWell the Destroy ending only applies to Reaper tech.
23:32.08MonetOr was it jsut the Mass Relays?
23:32.32HachimanOh wait
23:32.35TekDroidWell the relays are reaper tech, aren't they?
23:32.36MonetThe original ending was "all technology" but there is a VERY common misconception that technology - electronics.
23:32.41HachimanIt meant the destruction of *synthetic* life
23:32.56Monettechnology = electronics*
23:33.04HachimanLike how the Reapers and Geth are synthetic
23:34.08MonetIt's been ages since I last played
23:34.32DarcySupremestI just love the geth, like Its so rare to see like "ROBOT REVOLUTION" but you feel sympathetic and also Endeared by the robots
23:34.36DarcySupremestIt was just nice to see
23:34.50TekDroidI still haven't gotten very far in ME1 actually.
23:35.05HachimanI like how the Geth that supported Sovereign were disliked even by the mainstream Geth
23:35.38TekDroidYeah, always nice when the AI isn't simply an evil enemy.
23:37.39MonetReading up it depends on the Effective Military Strength you got.
23:38.25MonetLow EMS = everything explodes, high EMS = only Reaper tech blows up, Mass Relays get damaged as well as other stuff gets damaged
23:38.36DarcySupremestThats a good joke, I still wanted there to be an ending where you just Rekt the Reapers with brute strength
23:38.38DarcySupremestBut alas
23:38.42DarcySupremestthree colours
23:38.52HachimanWell
23:38.55HachimanThere's three colours
23:38.57HachimanAnd absolute failure
23:39.03DarcySupremest:'(
23:39.35MonetAt least Bioware tried changing it
23:39.42DarcySupremestYeah
23:39.52MonetMost games we're stuck with "the ending sucks? Oh well, next project!"
23:40.15DarcySupremestI still stand by Indoctrination Theory, I read somewhere that its still not ruled out yet even with the new endings
23:40.18DarcySupremestI dunno
23:40.39HachimanPfft
23:40.53Wormy_Woa, I was going to ignore that Disney made Star Wars EU non-canon, I thought, "meh", but I didn't know all previous EU stories will no longer be added to at all.  So not only are they non-canon, Disney has stuffed the creative strength of Star Wars
23:40.53DarcySupremestI can dreeam can't I
23:41.13DarcySupremesttfw no Yuuzong Vong
23:41.16DarcySupremest;'(
23:41.18TekDroidWait, really?
23:41.25DarcySupremestYup
23:41.33DarcySupremestWe can't have Grimdark in Star Wars
23:41.44HachimanFunny cuz Wormy hates Yuuzhan Vong hur
23:41.52Wormy_They've killed it as far as I'm concerned, now all future content must be approved by a few
23:41.52DarcySupremestThat;d be too sad for all the kiddywinks
23:41.53HachimanI like them myself
23:42.37HachimanWell I dispute the grimdark part
23:42.51Wormy_I didn't like the Vong, no, they seem out of place and killed Chewie
23:43.03HachimanWe had Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith after all
23:43.12Wormy_But I love the rest
23:43.19HachimanWhere Anakin decapitated a guy and killed children
23:43.31HachimanAnd we see him get melted on-screen
23:43.39DarcySupremestBut that makes the
23:43.49DarcySupremestEmpire were Good Guys theory wrong
23:43.50DarcySupremestNooooooo~
23:44.21DrodoEmpireI think the Star Wars EU is in some sort of "alternate universe", isn't it? I'm not certain
23:44.31HachimanFuck the Jedi and the Sith, the Clone Troopers are the true badasses
23:44.35DrodoEmpire^
23:44.41Wormy_Legends, they call it
23:44.43TekDroidDefinitely
23:44.46DrodoEmpireRight
23:44.55MonetThe EU has simply been disregarded by DIsney Execs
23:45.02TekDroid^
23:45.10DarcySupremestHave any you read that thing?
23:45.12DarcySupremestWhere like
23:45.14Wormy_I'm less upset about that, but Disneyt is stopping new content added to previous EU stories
23:45.15TekDroidThey took the easy way out.
23:45.18DarcySupremestThe Emperor knew they were coming
23:45.22MonetAlso screw those Jango clones, Rogue Squadron ftw!
23:45.26DarcySupremestso thats why they were building Death Stars
23:45.45DarcySupremestTo kill the Vong Worldships
23:45.59DrodoEmpire*sigh*
23:46.26Wormy_The Vong waited for the Empire to fall, from what I read
23:46.43DarcySupremestBut was the Empire because of them?
23:46.46Wormy_And invaded when everyone was weakened
23:46.55DarcySupremestbecause the Republic Senate was...shit and achieved nothing
23:47.24DarcySupremestthis was around like the time it fell by the way
23:47.26MonetThe clone troopers got all the skill of their badass donor trained into them. Rogue Squadron members were trained in the fires of battle.
23:47.27DarcySupremestnot the Old Republic
23:48.07DarcySupremestWell the Clone Troopers were pretty much removed weren't they
23:48.16DarcySupremestStorm troopers are just voulenteers and Conscripts?
23:48.26DarcySupremestBecause Kamino's genebanks were destroyed
23:48.28Wormy_Slowly phased out I think
23:48.43HachimanYeah Kamino's genebanks were severed and the Stormtroopers were introduced
23:48.47DrodoEmpireNot entirely; They where old clones being phased out, newer clones from other templates, and a lot of recruits.
23:49.16Wormy_After Kamino was found cloning its own forces to resist the Empire, that's when it';s production ceased
23:49.22DrodoEmpireMonet: So the fact that they where professionally trained makes them less "badass"? :P
23:49.34DrodoEmpireWormy: yeah
23:49.53MonetDrodoEmpire: They were essentially an army of the same man.
23:50.01DarcySupremestActually I heard a reason was because the Clones started rebelling
23:50.04HachimanThere are still Jango Clones about though if I recall, albeit either veteran soldiers or retired
23:50.10DarcySupremestBecause they're loyal to the Republic
23:50.36DrodoEmpireMonet: Not really. The clones all had unique personalities and where very much so individuals.
23:50.36DrodoEmpire\
23:50.49MonetDrodoEmpire: Sure after a few years in the field.
23:50.51DrodoEmpireAccidentily pressed enter. >.<
23:51.16DrodoEmpireAgain, no; They developed their personalities during their training years like anybody else.
23:51.31DrodoEmpireThey where human; The fact that they where cloned does not change that fact.
23:51.37MonetBut Rogue Squadron soldiers aren't trained, they're selected fro mthe best of the Republic military.
23:51.40HachimanMandalorian*
23:51.43Hachiman:P
23:52.17DrodoEmpireI'm pretty certain they where trained in some fashion
23:52.19MonetI say Rogue Squadron gets cred because you have to prove yourself a badass to join.
23:52.26TekDroidyeah
23:52.33DrodoEmpireAt any rate, comparing an elite division to the rank and file is absurd, Monet.
23:52.38DrodoEmpire:P
23:53.28HachimanThat's kind of implying Solid Snake isn't a badass because he's effectively a clone
23:53.28MonetSure they got training like every other Alliance pilot
23:53.46DrodoEmpireYou can't say the Old Guard of Napoleon's military was representative of the many, many french divisions within the army of that time
23:53.55DrodoEmpireWhose quality did vary
23:54.10DrodoEmpireAgain, comparing elite divisions to the line infantry isn't very fair
23:54.19HachimanAlthough Solid Snake does tread the boundaries of being a badass normal considering he's gene-modded
23:54.26MonetHow were the Old Guard recruited?
23:54.44DrodoEmpireTo my knowledge, from the very best.
23:54.48DrodoEmpireYour point?
23:55.12DrodoEmpireIts not as if every single soldier is the "very best"; If they where, the very best would merely be average, then.
23:55.18MonetOKay fine I'll shut up
23:55.37MonetRogue Squadron is only a single squadron
23:56.21MonetSo I guess rather than comparing the mwith the Clone Army ,i'd be better off comparing them to the 501st legion.
23:56.45DarcySupremestGod I miss IRC's like this, last one I was on got so overblown it became this sort of broken Quasi Police state where you could be banned for like no reason
23:57.30HachimanYeah we're very liberal
23:57.35HachimanTo a fault really
23:57.53DarcySupremestWell good, you don't want the other end of the spectrum brother
23:58.01DarcySupremestits not pretty on the other side, I've seen it
23:58.39DarcySupremestWhen I say its a long time since I've seen a debate on an IRC which didn't end in someone getting banned for at least copping and eafull from an OP
23:58.40DarcySupremestI mean it
23:59.36HachimanUnfortunately debates happen a bit too often

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