IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141011

00:03.26OfficerJackalBelated hey!
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00:07.28DrodoEmpireHey!
00:07.55DrodoEmpireHmm... I wonder if it'd be possible to add Xhodocto event-troops or something at a certain date for the mod. :P
00:07.58GD12Hello everyone
00:08.03Vincent20100Hey GD
00:08.15Vincent20100sure Drodo
00:08.43GD12Vincent20100 : I've seen you've made something about the Tyranny's black hole forges
00:08.51Vincent20100yah
00:08.58GD12You might want to make sure it doesn't conflict with this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Scramble_for_Mirus
00:09.05Vincent20100Gonna be a community thing for Mou Cyrans
00:09.57GD12Of course first you have to get over the bit which is intergalactic travel to Mirus :) (certainly possible). Furthermore, most of Dominatus space gets divided between the DI, France, TIAF, and DCP with other parts going to other users as well.
00:10.20GD12So just make sure your stuff doesn't conflict with that
00:11.06DrodoEmpireVince: Yeah, it would be cool; But I'm not sure if it'd be possible; Perhaps around 1600 or something cores would appear in a bunch of provinces for the Xhodocto and maybe an event fires making massive doomstack nationalist revolts there
00:11.09Vincent20100Well, I didn't wrote too much about the expedition itself, it is mostly merly a mention of it
00:11.42Vincent20100I would say place them in Mongolia, to make them like mongol hordes
00:11.57GD12Also makes sense that some MCA members have some presence there as some MCa factions were involved in AD
00:12.02GD12hur
00:12.04Vincent20100But since the Popular Republic is gonna be in Russia, I will be the first one to be killed ^^
00:12.06GD12Xhodoctos on ponies
00:12.12DrodoEmpireWell that'd be pretty far away from the action is the thing.
00:12.41Vincent20100By the way, could you rename russia to USSR?
00:12.46Vincent20100Just saying...
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00:13.40DrodoEmpireNo; Ahistorical
00:13.41DrodoEmpire:P
00:13.50GD12hurdur
00:13.54DrodoEmpireDoesn't make sense
00:14.06DrodoEmpireI could make a mini-mod that is separate from the Sporewiki mod that does that though
00:14.19Vincent20100Because space faring alien empire with laser rifles, plasma torpedoes and cybernethics horses are historical. ^^
00:14.40DrodoEmpireYeah, yeah, I came up with a better reason. Screw off. XD
00:14.55DrodoEmpireAnyway, I can make up a mini-mod for that, sure
00:15.03Vincent20100Grrr... >:(
00:15.19Vincent20100By the way GD
00:15.26GD12hmm?
00:15.33DrodoEmpireIts only editing a name; You could probably run both at the same time
00:15.34Vincent20100Here are the models I thinked about for the Forge
00:15.50Vincent20100Ho, and turn Russia's colour from green to Crimson red plz ^^
00:16.33GD12you have a model for it?
00:16.39DrodoEmpireYeah, alright
00:16.42Vincent20100http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141010163529/spore/images/f/f7/Experimental_Black_Hole_Forge.png
00:16.46Vincent20100This and...
00:16.54DrodoEmpireThough work's been slow on the mod right now; It'll pick up again soon
00:17.09Vincent20100http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141010173132/spore/images/a/a7/APR_Black_Hole_Forge_V2.1.png
00:17.11Vincent20100THis one
00:17.27Vincent20100I sincerly prefer the first one that said
00:17.37GD12Why so?
00:17.54Vincent20100Because it looks way more like a production facility
00:18.00Vincent20100http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141010163529/spore/images/f/f7/Experimental_Black_Hole_Forge.png
00:18.02Vincent20100This one
00:18.40GD12Well heres the thing. A black hole forge is fuckmassive. As in it DWARFS the death star. The ring look is probably closer to what it would be like
00:18.49GD12Given the difficulty of filling in all that solid spce
00:19.08Vincent20100yah
00:19.19Vincent20100I submited it to Cyra and guess what he said
00:19.25GD12what?
00:19.35Vincent20100"fuck logic. If it looks cool, it's fine".
00:19.45Vincent20100^.^
00:19.57GD12hur
00:20.14GD12Actually I think I made a model of a black hole foundry once which I can show you later on the weekend
00:20.30GD12you can use it if you want.
00:20.32GD12Also
00:20.32Vincent20100yah
00:20.35GD12Another practicality thing
00:20.39GD12It would take a lot of paint
00:20.43Vincent20100I really want a good model
00:20.44GD12to fully repaint a black hole foundry
00:20.47GD12yeah no problem
00:20.52Vincent20100lol
00:21.08Vincent20100But... Shiny colours...
00:21.34GD12wait shit i have work to do
00:21.37GD12ill get back to uyou soon
00:26.57Vincent20100++
00:27.33Vincent20100Well, I have to go soon too
00:27.51Vincent20100Say good bye to GD from me
00:27.54Vincent20100Good night
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01:10.33AdmiralPandahi all
01:15.23Liquid_InkHello
01:57.49DrodoEmpiretedt
01:57.52DrodoEmpire*test
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03:05.30Zillafire101Hello all.
03:11.22DrodoEmpireHi
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03:14.50TekDroidCaptain America was on. I'm just realizing that in one scene he's running around a German military base with basically an American flag strapped to his back. XD
03:44.35TekDroidI literally just facepalmed at an Apple commercial. XD
03:44.50DrodoEmpirelol
03:47.02TekDroidIt was some screensize iPhone 6 comparison thing set to a badly sung version of that 2001 intro song.
03:48.04TekDroidAlso, I finally connect my 3DS to a wi-fi and Nintendo's server's are experiencing technical difficulties. >.<
03:51.48TekDroidbrb
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03:55.46TekDroidHello
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05:04.31Zillafire101Bye all.
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05:26.17GD12hello
05:27.13MedwedianPresidehello
05:27.55MedwedianPresideI have just stood up from bed, so I might be a little slow until I'm not tired anymore.
05:28.20GD12ahh, are you a new user?
05:30.19MedwedianPresideYes.
05:30.29MedwedianPresideI want to enter the Fiction Universe
05:30.39MedwedianPresideso I am asking you: how do people write those fictions?
05:30.41MedwedianPresideRoleplay?
05:32.09GD12a combination of roleplay
05:32.18GD12as well as each person taking turns writing scenes
05:32.39GD12and obviously its less roleplay and more an encyclopedic description for the fictions itself as opposed to colalbs
05:33.32MedwedianPresideWhat is a colalb?
05:33.44GD12collaborative fictions
05:33.49GD12fictions between two or more users
05:34.08MedwedianPresideAnd how do those "colalbs" work?
05:34.14MedwedianPresideDo people actively roleplay?
05:35.15GD12oftentimes
05:35.20GD12other times they just take turns writing sections
05:35.28GD12generally its dialogue sections which are roleplayed
05:35.39GD12large scale battles are often discussed beforehand and written up by a user
05:35.43MedwedianPresideAnd is it already decided at the beginning of a fiction who wins?
05:35.50GD12Um that depends
05:35.57TekDroidHey GD.
05:35.58GD12But for the most part battles are there to advance the storyline
05:36.01GD12hey
05:36.05GD12so the winner is kind of determined
05:36.07MedwedianPresideHej
05:36.09MedwedianPresideAha.
05:36.23MedwedianPresideGuess what the Medwedian greeting formula is!
05:36.41MedwedianPresideIn Medwedia, when people greet themselves, they say "Hergot".
05:37.11GD12Ahh nice
05:37.13GD12so
05:37.18GD12is Preside short for President?
05:37.20TekDroidKatar's stories attempted to remove a predetermined element at had battles decided based on tactical RP.
05:37.25MedwedianPresideThis comes from "Her Gudt Overs" which means "The Almighty Lord Rules"
05:37.26GD12aye
05:37.33MedwedianPresidePreside is "Presiden"
05:37.42MedwedianPresidebut the program steals the T from me.
05:37.56GD12Yeah, the two main wiki paradigms are battles just advance the story or battles are decided in rp
05:37.57MedwedianPresideI LOVE TACTICAL ROLEPLAY!!!
05:38.13GD12so one way linear rpg vs multilinear strategy game kinda
05:38.21GD12and its a bit of a continuum
05:38.24MedwedianPresideI WANT MULTILINEAR STRATEGY GAME!
05:38.33MedwedianPresideAlso, is the Xonexi Schism some sort of Strategy game?
05:38.38GD12no
05:38.41GD12i wish it was
05:38.46GD12its a collaborative war fiction
05:38.53MedwedianPresideHow does it work?
05:39.07GD12So with my main collaborative fiction Attero Dominatus the outcome is already decided, the DOminatus (my fiction) lose. However, what is decided and what constitutes the fun is how exactly they get to lose
05:39.10MedwedianPresideBecause as soon as I finished the information on my military, I want to enter the war.
05:39.11GD12umm
05:39.29GD12users discuss stuff like casus beli, plot, battles, miitaries, etic
05:39.38GD12sorry my brains derping its midterm season
05:39.49GD12then they write up battles and stories based on that
05:39.56MedwedianPresideAha.
05:40.10MedwedianPresideSo...what is the Casus Belli in that Xonexi Schism war?
05:40.41GD12Bad vibes in the gigaquadrant
05:40.44AngrybirdsIt's in the infobox on the main page.
05:40.49TekDroidIn fact both our tactical Katar RPs the "evil" (arguably) faction ended up winning due to Angrybirds' superior strategy and tactics
05:40.57GD12Perhaps you'd like to read this (its a war fic thats kinda complete ) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign
05:41.20TekDroidBut yeah, more a culmination of many various disputes
05:41.25MedwedianPresideSo...anybody wanna to do a practice tactical fiction with me on the #sporewiki-rp1 channel?
05:41.30GD12yeah sure
05:41.34MedwedianPresideI repeat, a PRACTICE rp.
05:41.45MedwedianPresideJust so that we all can better our skills.
05:41.53MedwedianPresideLet's go to rp1 then.
05:42.24TekDroidhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ALightning_War/Battle_of_Heleni This is an example of how we did it.
05:42.45AngrybirdsExcept we had maps.
05:42.48AngrybirdsLots of maps.
05:42.57TekDroidWhat happened to them?
05:43.22Angrybirdsthey're still up on the wiki.
05:43.37TekDroidWe should edit them in at some point.
05:44.04TekDroidWhat you see there probably also took a month OOC. XD
05:48.15TekDroidNintendo chose the day I finally get my 3DS on a wi-fi to have server issues. >.<
06:12.44TekDroidcontinues screaming at Nintendo
06:13.33TekDroidYes! Finally got to the page...
06:14.23TekDroid...and the update speed is virtually zero. >.<
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06:20.09GhelaeHello.
06:20.16TekDroidHello
06:20.34TekDroidIsn't it... *checks watch* nevermind.
06:34.56GD12hello
06:47.16TekDroidThe new set-up of my bed is such that if I move at all my headboard rattles against the wall. >.<
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10:19.12MonetHello
10:22.04Liquid_InkHello!
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10:28.41MonetHi
10:29.23MonetI saw the original King Kong on Tuesday. And I can't stop thinking how about how much he could have influenced the Godzilla franchise.
10:29.33dromHei
10:29.59Liquid_InkHe kinda did.
10:30.18Liquid_InkAlthough Godzilla was in fact inspired by an earlier film.
10:30.29Liquid_Ink"The Beast from 20 000 Fathoms"
10:31.16MonetIn the film there's this one section where he chases off some of the camera crew after him, fights a T Rex, takes Ann Darrow to his cave and almsot instantly has ot save her form a snake lizard, takes her up to a ledge where he then beats up a pteradactal.
10:31.37MonetThe last two literally came out of nowhere
10:32.00Liquid_InkSkull Island must be just off the coast of Australia.
10:32.06Liquid_InkFull of deadly wildlife.
10:32.27MonetThe film puts it in the West Indies
10:33.19Liquid_InkWell... that's not too far in the grand scheme of things.
10:33.53MonetI wonder if the monster islands in the Godzilla films were at least partially inspired by Skull Island
10:34.33Liquid_InkGodzilla himself was going to be a Gorilla at some point. Luckily they went with a much more iconic dinosaur.
10:35.07MonetAlthough King Kong isn't the first story to populate a tropical island with creatures that are not exactly normal.
10:35.55MonetYeah a groilla emerging fro mthe oceoan isn't as sensible or as striking.
10:36.48dromhttp://i37.tinypic.com/2iseicj.png
10:37.30MonetEither that's a huge tank or its piloted by really tiny people
10:38.19Liquid_InkIt's a joke.
10:38.25dromMonet: I guess you will understand it more with this? https://www.jinx.com/Content/Contest/1/9896c3c63f1f473fa67df.jpg
10:38.30Liquid_InkI've actually seen the real TOG II
10:39.10dromAnd there's even a reskin that turns TOG II into a battleship on treads.
10:39.57MonetSOmething just hit me.
10:40.18MonetIn Japan it seems Toho made a killing off films titled "X vs. Y"
10:40.29Liquid_InkYes.
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10:40.43HachimanHai
10:40.44MonetIn the West however I don't recall such a formula being used much.
10:40.46MonetHi
10:41.59HachimanWhat's this?
10:42.02MonetEven the Rocky films, your iconic fight film, never had any titling like "Rocky vs. Ivan Drago"
10:42.15MonetI'll pastie
10:42.42HachimanFunny because kaiju films in Japan went by that formula hur
10:43.09Monethttp://pastie.org/private/vuredanv67sphzdbttn0g
10:43.11dromAngrybirds: This is what you will do long tanks, if not long vehicles. http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af208/warfaee/wot/ZTO3lyg.jpg
10:43.24HachimanEither it was [Insert kaiju name here]: [insert intimidating title to describe monster] or [insert kaiju] vs. [insert kaiju]
10:43.51Liquid_InkYes, that's what the conversationw as about.
10:43.59Liquid_InkOf course, there was Alien versus Predator
10:44.26MonetTrue but its not exactly a great example given its reception
10:45.03HachimanThere were much better comics about Alien vs. Predator prior to the film though
10:45.17HachimanThat's partially why die hard AvP fans hated the films
10:45.53MonetCome to think of it, "X vs Y" is more common in Western comics than western films
10:46.22HachimanIf the Japanese audience wants to see two colossal ugly monsters bashing the crap out of each other, Toho wasn't gonna give them subtle titles
10:46.26dromSpeaking of the Aliens franchise. A:CM was a huge disappointment.
10:46.34Hachimandrom: No shit
10:46.35MonetBoth DC and Marvel would often put on their covers one of their signature heroes fighting the villain of the week. Often with the villain's name in big letters.
10:47.14dromNow we have to this new game. Gotta say that it looks impressive.
10:47.22MonetI had one Amazing Spiderman issue years ago that showed Spidey after geing given a deabilitating knock by Krave nthe HUnter
10:47.34MonetKraven*
10:48.00HachimanAlso Godzilla's Japanese name, Gojira, is a combination of "gorira" and "kujira", which means "gorilla" and "whale" respectively
10:48.09XhoHachiman: no shitto
10:48.51Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10645127_10153251784674689_4648552774015204292_n.jpg?oh=fd9dd0666d3498fb966c310d9aeeb6cb&oe=54C0DAE6&__gda__=1420435440_a720111bb0b6cd660faf1756d18c624f On the scheme of whales
10:49.03HachimanGojira's music in a nutshell
10:49.14Xhoey
10:49.17dromOff to make a cargo ship for NC, and an unmanned fortress version of it.
10:49.19MonetSo I guess while western film keeps away from X vs Y titles, western comics on the other hand adored the trope. And I'm presuming that the Alien vs Predator ocmics inspired the film?
10:49.39dromAnd then I'll test if I'll really shit in my pants when playing that new game.
10:49.40HachimanMonet: When you look at the comics it's hard to believe but yes
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10:50.29MonetI suppose in the West there's a division between what is expected from a film and what is expected from a ocmic book
10:50.57HachimanComics can get away with more shit than a film can
10:51.07HachimanAny animated medium can really
10:51.16HachimanWell
10:51.23HachimanAny medium that doesn't use live action
10:51.31MonetDeadpool for example: Absolutely perfect for a comic, harder to pull off stuff like "Oh hi yellow description box! I missed you!" in a film
10:51.53HachimanIt's also kinda why video game movies don't work a lot of the time
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10:52.12MonetWell there's mroe than that
10:53.34MonetVideo game movies are often rushed to be sold alongside the film, especially if you need the film's actors or script, and if the game is an interactive version of the movie ,you have t oturn a 2 hour reel into a 10+ hour gaming experience.
10:55.37dromGames based of comics are usually have a quality medium higher than the average output of those based of movies. If not rushed.
10:56.24MonetIt was either Yahtzee or MattPat who mentioned in one of his videos that, yeah, because of their nature video games can more easily be adapted from comic books than films can.
10:56.38MonetI think it was MattPat
10:58.21Monethttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120626205639/supermanrebirth/images/a/a9/Superman_Vol_3-10_Cover-1.jpg found an example of "X vs Y" in comics
11:00.31Monethttp://universaldork.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/superman-kid.jpg okay now that's just making Lex look like an unmanly asshole
11:02.59MonetTHis cover was published in '76
11:05.15Hachimandat kid mullet
11:06.51MonetHmm I wonder if King Kong's intention may have been lost on the Japanese public. Since when the film was released the idea was that Kong was a metaphor for what could happen if the country's African American population were given too much social fredom.
11:07.19MonetHorrifically racist I know but thet's what they were like back then.
11:08.54Monethttp://101horrormovies.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/king-kong-04.jpg http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/blackface_3910.jpg notice the resemblance?
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11:10.12HachimanI don't see how it relates to the African American population under any circumstance
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11:10.57MonetBack in the 30s, Afro-Americans were still viewed as an inferior kind of human.
11:11.22HachimanI know but I didn't think the film was a social commentary
11:11.40MonetI was as surprised as you.
11:12.14MonetPeter Jacskon's lacks much of the insensetivity that was considered quite normal in the original.
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11:12.53OluapWorkerhai
11:12.57Hachiman_Where did you get that info?
11:13.09Hachiman_Ohai
11:13.12MonetHi
11:13.55MonetI've seen the remake and the original and my course leader tells me this is what a number of people who have watched the original film have noticed.
11:14.27Hachiman_I think they were looking too hard into it honestly
11:14.27MonetThere's one scene where Kong first fondles with the blonde lady, then starts tearing her dres off.
11:15.13MonetThere's a scene that was taken out due to censorship where he touches her and sniffs his fingers as if he was enjoying it.
11:15.20Hachiman_Ew
11:15.24MonetBut the scene was put back in later
11:16.37MonetI think I freaked him out
11:17.07Hachiman_No I'm still here
11:17.11MonetOh
11:17.13Hachiman_My clone disconned hur
11:17.51MonetThe original Kong does walk close to humanlike.
11:19.00Monethttp://image.toutlecine.com/photos/k/i/n/king-kong-1933-13-g.jpg those seem like very bright sclera for a gorilla to me.
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11:19.08Wormy_I have the lurg.
11:19.12OluapWorkerHachiman_: work on Flora Drakes pls
11:19.13Wormy_Hi
11:20.46MonetI was told by my lecturer that in the 30s that head freaked the shit out of cinemagoers
11:22.12Hachiman_A lot of stuff regarding Kong was considered terrifying and impressive in the 30s
11:22.33Hachiman_I had to study a bit about Kong and the guy who designed him in my previous media course
11:22.43Xhodankeykang
11:23.04Hachiman_kankeydang
11:23.12MonetYeah but half the time when that face appeared when I saw it half the audience (my classmates) thought it looked funny based on their laughter.
11:23.42Hachiman_Consider that audiences in the 30s weren't accustomed to special effects or movie monsters
11:24.41MonetIt was either that or Kong was considered the height of SFX at the time
11:24.49Hachiman_It pretty much was
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11:25.24Hachiman_Hai again
11:25.26OluapWorkerRight now I'm here proper
11:25.27MonetI recall Metropolis used some effective SFX, like using model planes or cars to give a sense of scale
11:25.30MonetHi
11:25.35OluapWorkerwerk on weed dragons pls
11:25.40Hachiman_soon
11:26.10OluapWorkerngh
11:26.30Hachiman_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3APolychromatic_Cult Also lol Harlequins
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11:27.35MonetThinking about it...I don't think it was a case of "audiences in the 30s weren't accustomed to special effects"
11:28.04MonetSome of the first films to use special effects were made far back at the dawn of the century
11:28.44Hachiman_That's true but not a lot of things like Kong were about back then
11:28.53MonetAlthough I will agree that as far as I can tell, move monsters were a new thing when Kong came out.
11:29.34Hachiman_https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1932460_10152327366771447_4203500668601548670_n.jpg?oh=93731e4c0ca12d1e16534a72f72cff9d&oe=54B10C3B
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11:30.29MonetMy computer animation arts course is training me how to develop ideas and concepts in a professional manner. WHich includes how to proerly source inspiration, sift though ideas and refine concepts.
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11:31.51Wormy_Great my dog's got an upset stomach too so I'm going to have to clean up after him while I'm ill
11:31.55MonetSo even when its not making money from ripping off the soruce material, it frustrates me now when ripoffs are made and dubbed as original. Mainly because in doing so, one skips half the process.
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11:35.31OluapWorkerImpyDroid ImpyDroid2: Can you rp vampire stuff today?
11:35.44ImpyDroid2Ya
11:35.47OluapWorkergud
11:37.21dromAnd here are the Naakjian Cargo ships. Unfortunatly, I didn't make a fortress (retrofitted for direct combat) version. But I'm satifsied.
11:37.23dromhttp://i.imgur.com/533ldRy.png
11:37.43MonetI like the modular design of the cargo bays
11:39.16XhoToday is Chicken Day
11:39.23OluapWorkerspu
11:39.47Xhou
11:40.56dromThanks, Monet.
11:42.05Hachiman_Nice ships I gotta say
11:42.07XhoWhat to do today hm
11:42.16Hachiman_I like those gun ports
11:42.18Wormy_Now he's been sick.  I've got a fun day aehead
11:42.44OluapWorkerFinish your pages
11:43.05ImpyDroid2It looks stylish
11:43.14MonetWormy_: Sorry to hear.
11:43.46MonetHachiman_: I just remembered another scene where Kong punches into one of the native houses, and one at a time he grabs two people, throws them into the mud and grinds them underneath his feet.
11:44.44MonetThe people weren't even threatening him or getting in his way, they were hiding away from the monster when he decided to smash an opening for himself t okill them.
11:45.35dromremember kids: giant monsters are not nice people
11:46.35MonetI think the film was making th emosnters unrelateable in general
11:47.18MonetThere's one scene where a brontosaurus chases after the main characters after overturning their boat and tries to -eat- one of them.
11:47.57MonetIts succeeds too as it managed to grab one stuck in a tree and grind him in its teeth
11:48.07Hachiman_Yeah movie makers and moviegoers weren't so concerned with the intricate details hur
11:49.29MonetTHen again there was still a very rough understanding of palaentology back then
11:50.24MonetSo its possible that not very many people knew what a brontosaurus ate either because they found no fossilised plant matter ot found no trace of what teeth the monster had.
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12:00.00AdmiralPandahi all
12:00.19OluapWorkerHello
12:01.05MonetHi
12:01.11Monethttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RHK3n3Uireo/TPsARUSWwzI/AAAAAAAAAXQ/u2_VnO5GFVY/s1600/king_kong_1933-3.jpg is it me or is that a raepface?
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12:02.10Liquid_InkMore of a roar face
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12:11.30ImpyDroidHi
12:12.44Wormy_I just had an idea, I might create a blog or wiki parodying a science news website, but actually psuedoscience to quickly identify the cack found floating in the media
12:13.03MonetThat sounds like a fun project
12:13.04Technobliteratorhii
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12:20.17AdmiralPandaa recent D&D session has me wondering what the local trade network is like in Koldenwelt
12:21.45MonetWell I think at one time one user tried t oportray a black market
12:22.40MonetAlthough I think there might be a misconception in some cases that there is no one definable "black market".
12:22.58MonetWait that came out wrong
12:23.33AdmiralPandaI more meant, is trade largely state-managed or private, is it dominated by individual merchants or do merchant guilds create the deals with contractors carrying them out, so on and so forth
12:23.37MonetWhat I mean to say I get the impression that there might be some interpretations that the black market is like Amazon for illegal goods.
12:24.31Wormy_nanoforges are on the way http://phys.org/news/2014-10-dna-nano-foundries-custom-shaped-d-metal.html
12:24.37MonetYeah that's a good question; does Koldenwelt have its own Hanseatic League or is trade mroe localised?
12:25.41Hachiman_Probably varies although I imagine that the Merovar Dynasty handle a lot of the trade between nations considering they're the largest merchant culture in the world
12:26.12AdmiralPandaI recently joined an economy-based role-play, it was really fun trying to dodge around guild politics while trying to turn the biggest profit possible
12:26.15MonetThe flaw with an "Amazon for illegal stuff" is it could probably be found and targeted for dismantling relatively easily by law enforcement.
12:26.55AdmiralPandawe ended up taking on two separate contracts for two rival guilds, then manipulated events so the commodities their wealth was based on crashed and we profited quite heavily
12:27.10AdmiralPandabuuuuut now we're wanted criminals in a third of the known world XD
12:27.13Wormy_Who here likes waffles?
12:27.23Hachiman_I do
12:27.40Wormy_have all the waffles you can eat http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26342-inside-exotic-dead-stars-are-piles-of-waffles.html#.VDkf2fldV8E
12:28.08MonetI like to imagine that black market deals are quite independant of one another.
12:29.15MonetSo fi one black market "group" is raided and destroyed by law enforcement agencies, the whole ocncept of a black market oesn't go down with it. And other black market transactions remain relatively unkown.
12:30.08AdmiralPandaMonet: A lot of the time, more realistic portrayals of black market deals involve buying the illegal products somewhere where they aren't illegal, then finding a legal way to get the product to the consumer
12:30.20Wormy_http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn26267/dn26267-1_1200.jpg
12:30.37AdmiralPandathe less crimes you actually commit, the easier committing a crime is
12:30.39MonetAdmiralPanda: so smuggling and the likes?
12:31.08Monet"There is no single underground economy; there are many. These underground economies are omnipresent, existing in market oriented as well as in centrally planned nations, be they developed or developing. Those engaged in underground activities circumvent, escape or are excluded from the institutional system of rules, rights, regulations and enforcement penalties that govern formal agents engaged in production and exchange." > Wikipedia
12:32.03MonetSo I suppose the best way to dominate a black market economy involves spreading your influence as wide as possible and brokering deals with as many dealers as you can.
12:32.08AdmiralPandayeah, one example from that role-play in fact was we bought a bunch of gold in one city where the gold trade was legal, then sold it in another city where gold imports are illegal unless you have a deal with the church
12:33.26MonetIts merely a thought since I recall Borealis is where the black market most frequently mentioned.
12:35.47XhoOluapWorker: can u gimme a quote about Akharavzund from dolvorot
12:36.16OluapWorkerl8r
12:36.57OluapWorkerAlso I'm not sure if that's a good idea considering he'd have nothing good to say about it
12:37.58XhoThat's the idea
12:38.16XhoAnd I mean Akharavzund as the fortress itself, not the group
12:38.24OluapWorkerI'm aware
12:38.26Xhorite
12:38.31OluapWorkerI also know nothing about the fortress
12:38.39OluapWorkerOther than "Akharav lives there"
12:39.58OluapWorkerim gunna need moar info
12:39.59XhoWell, it's also quite big
12:40.35OluapWorker"Place's a huge turn off. "-Hamoins
12:40.37XhoIt's situated around 4,400 meters high in the Southern Mountains and the exterior of it is around 370m tall
12:40.51XhoMassively ornate, black
12:41.00Hachiman_like a dik
12:41.06AdmiralPanda"Too many trash mobs and raid boss needs better legendary drop chance." - average MMO gamer
12:41.08Xholike my dik in ur mom
12:41.28Hachiman_u hav bad taste in women den
12:41.35Xhoany hol a gol
12:41.48OluapWorker-Pelagrios
12:41.57Xhohoh
12:42.00MonetSheep go baah, cows go moo, MMO gamers demand better legendary drop chances.
12:42.13Hachiman_"We should picnic there at some point, dear!" - Hys
12:42.16AdmiralPandathat and more pvp-safe areas
12:42.36OluapWorkerFunny because chances are that she'd probably say that if Akharav wasn't there
12:42.37XhoVarelos - r u fukn mad
12:42.58XhoAnd well since Caligaduro's presence has returned it has been repopulated with (weak) Void Denizens
12:43.10OluapWorkerAkharav - oh god who are you guys
12:43.11AdmiralPandahas anyone here heard the story of the orcish angry carpenter?
12:43.12Hachiman_Void Denizen - buffs pls
12:43.33XhoAkharav would know about Void Denizens since he did command them in Akharavzund before Caligaduro's imprisonment destroyed them
12:43.37Hachiman_AdmiralPanda: Is that the same one who yelled at some wood to stop being a door?
12:44.00AdmiralPandayeah, and he intimidated a pile of planks into becoming a mast
12:44.09OluapWorkerI prefer the story of the half-orc luchador who grappled a dragon
12:45.12OluapWorkerGot a 20 in a roll to pin the dragon's wings so it couldn't fly anymore causing it to fall down and break its neck
12:45.28Hachiman_I love that story hur
12:46.51OluapWorkerI also like that one /tg/ thread about a mad queen who wants the ultimate torture devise
12:46.57OluapWorkerThe first suggestion was Mr Bones' Wild Ride
12:47.18Hachiman_I like the story where a guy was playing a supposed solo campaign as a good lich who used the undead to help a country out of poverty and tyranny and taught them to use the dead so they wouldn't have to suffer anymore, and in the end it turns out he was the unwitting BBEG for another group's campaign
12:47.28OluapWorkerEveryone came to the conclusion the queen turned good because that's just TOO evl
12:48.06AdmiralPandaHachiman_: That reminds me of one campaign I played in once, it turned out the main villain was actually that good of a ruler we just decided to switch sides and join him
12:48.20OluapWorkerThat one with the lich actually annoys me a bit just because of how much it gets reposted
12:50.20AdmiralPandawe got to level five and realised that this guy was managing to keep together an army of orcs, ogres and wargs, and we were just like "anyone THAT good at leading people has to be better than the king we have now"
12:52.12OluapWorkerhur
12:53.11AdmiralPandaso yeah, we took our hundred armed knights, twenty battle clerics and six wizards, buggered off to his side, and he was just like "OMFG you guys are awesome!" and we were bros after that
12:53.25OluapWorkeradorabru
12:53.34Hachiman_I wonder if it would be possible to run a campaign that plays similar to the premises of Alien or Predator; a bunch of guys go to do a routine mission, something unexpected happens, they become isolated from all else and have to struggle to live for as long as possible and/or get out
12:53.52OluapWorkerSounds simple enough
12:53.55AdmiralPandaHachiman_: *evil grin* let's just say you're not the first person to come up with that idea
12:54.18Hachiman_OluapWorker: Only problem I see with it is that there would be a lot of "you died, roll new character"
12:54.44OluapWorkerSpeaking of evil, I hope you've not completely disconsidered that evil campaign idea
12:54.47AdmiralPandaHachiman_: That's called 2nd edition hur
12:54.49OluapWorkerI'm still itching to play that skeleton
12:55.03Hachiman_Aye I wanna play muh centaur
12:55.46AdmiralPandaI'll admit my enthusiasm has been dulled somewhat, but that has more to do with IRL stuff than wiki- or d&d-stuff
12:57.11OluapWorkermuh mount
12:57.52OluapWorkerhur I just thought of something, get four more arms and pretend to be Pinwheel
12:58.11AdmiralPandaohgod
12:58.42AdmiralPandaactually, I used Pinwheel as an example of a great fridge boss when trying to explain DMing stuff to a friend
12:59.00OluapWorkerOn the bad side if I do that, chances are that I'd die as soon as the wind breezes against me
12:59.34OluapWorkerExplain dis
13:00.00AdmiralPandayou know Pinwheel's lore right?
13:00.04OluapWorkerYeah
13:00.17AdmiralPandahow much of it is actually told to you
13:00.29OluapWorkerNext to zero
13:00.43AdmiralPandahe's a great example of a boss who doesn't make much sense on the surface, but when you put some thought into it he has a very interesting backstory
13:00.54OluapWorkerAh I see what you mean
13:01.42dromLet's play Alien: Isolation!
13:02.02OluapWorkerOf course my skeleton's goal is not to become Pinwheel but to become Nito
13:02.10OluapWorkerHe wants to be the most nito skeleton in the land
13:03.01Hachiman_I wonder what playing Dark Heresy of Shadowrun would be like
13:03.13Hachiman_or*
13:04.11AdmiralPandaI don't know much about Shadowrun, but Dark Heresy depends heavily on how invested all the players are in the lore
13:04.36AdmiralPandaotherwise you might as well be playing regular d% with a sci-fi setting
13:05.26Hachiman_Didn't think running D&D in a scifi setting would be possible
13:05.43Hachiman_Or easy hur
13:06.27OluapWorkerew scifi
13:06.31OluapWorkermuh swords and majik
13:06.37AdmiralPandaDark Heresy is a d% system, you can use that for basically anything ever, but not particularly well
13:07.03XhoNeeds more Xhodocto and shit
13:07.05AdmiralPandaI was once in a Pathfinder campaign where it was all basically the same stuff, but sci-fi equivalents
13:07.14AdmiralPandalike mono blades instead of longswords and whatnot
13:07.16OluapWorkerHow about NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
13:07.33Xhoyes
13:07.46AdmiralPandaI played a bard, and I had a floating boombox
13:08.05Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Void_Fortresses Added more
13:09.25OluapWorkerWould stuff like Vargash's denizens inhabit Void Fortresses?
13:10.37XhoThey could have done
13:10.47XhoBut it would have been primarily Caligaduro's
13:11.03OluapWorkerBut they are Caligaduro's hur
13:11.13XhoI've calculated the size of Osdaemonis - basically, it's more or less the same area as Greater London
13:11.27XhoCaligaduro - dunt u give me dat shi
13:11.47OluapWorkerVargash - u forget i am u dumass
13:13.21XhoIn other words you could fit Osdaemonis within the M25 Orbital and you could probably see it from every single point on that road
13:13.31XhoIn other words, big
13:13.39OluapWorkermicro dik
13:14.17XhoCaligaduro - vargash got millions a micro diks
13:14.25OluapWorkerVargash - aye
13:14.58AdmiralPanda"If you're concerned people think you have undersized genitalia, you should buy a giant truck and confirm it."
13:15.14OluapWorkerhur
13:20.22Wormy_Maxis should remake this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimEarth
13:23.26ImpyDroidOluapWorker Xho: Perhaps Vargash has her own fortresses?
13:23.40OluapWorker>her
13:23.53OluapWorkerVargash is a boy u
13:24.11ImpyDroidIsn't it asexual with the first concept being female?
13:24.26OluapWorkerIt's genderless with a male personality
13:24.36Hachiman_>Vargash is a boy u       >Vargash isn't a man
13:24.48OluapWorker>with a male personality
13:24.50OluapWorkerlrn2reed
13:25.12ImpyDroidI mean the first concept of Vargash was a girl, which is why I call it thus sometimes hur
13:25.23ImpyDroidActually it'd be funny if it was a girl
13:25.27OluapWorkerThe first concept doesn't exist anymore
13:25.31ImpyDroidCaligaduro and his two Simulacra bitches
13:25.44Hachiman_Vargash is now shota
13:25.57OluapWorkerThat's like if I started referring to Javina as a man because she likes girls
13:26.20ImpyDroidRite nevermind
13:26.36ImpyDroidSo, pronouns aside
13:27.55OluapWorkerVargash doesn't need fortresses for himself since he already has the Crystal Network, which's pretty much his equivalent of Osdaemonis
13:28.19Hachiman_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7jSp2xmmEE How evolution really happened
13:34.53Hachiman_https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10513300_10152777175154802_1449462142643058096_n.png?oh=9a3ae2a5f09eda7afd30a8b59dad6e38&oe=54BF5DC1
13:41.41AdmiralPandasee you guys in a few hours
13:41.46Wormy_bye
13:42.12OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/tg/1413000597992.gif Merovar fighting
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14:02.45Hachiman_So apparently a dwarf guy was out on a romantic date when the restaurant owners decided to give him crayons and a colouring book because they thought he was a kid
14:03.44ImpyDroidThat's... both sad and funny
14:04.17OluapWorkerolol
14:04.38OluapWorkerThis implies the dwarf had no beard
14:05.14OluapWorkersuks at bein a dwarf
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14:09.29CyrannianHello!
14:09.37OluapWorker~steal Cyrannian
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14:29.49Vincent20100Hey
14:30.03CyrannianHi Vincent
14:30.19Vincent20100Cyra!
14:30.25Vincent20100hug Cyra.
14:31.00Cyrannianexplodes violently
14:31.55CyrannianDoes anyone have any nominations for featured fictions?
14:32.20OluapWorkerNot really
14:32.29Hachiman_Yeah I'm all out
14:33.41XhoNope
14:34.59Vincent20100Cyrannian: Yes
14:35.03Vincent20100Well, Waptoria
14:35.10Vincent20100Elderasian
14:35.17Vincent20100Obeveklig
14:37.08CyrannianRight, I'll add them and search through the nominations that didn't get in last month.
14:37.18Vincent20100Or you can just keep mine here for another month ^^
14:37.33Vincent20100It's fine with me
14:37.50Vincent20100I can sacrifice myself for it
14:38.11dromFor, what?
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14:38.30OluapWorkerFucking ugh
14:38.57Vincent20100Hey Drom
14:39.16dromgrets
14:41.44Vincent20100Have you seen the post?
14:42.50dromNot yet. I'm playing Alien:Isolation
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14:43.26Vincent20100HO my, I'm checking the new files pages and all I see is...
14:43.26Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:NewFiles
14:44.08Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2014:_Featured_Empire_Poll
14:44.37Vincent20100is tempted to add himself back into the mold
14:44.41Vincent20100:,)
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14:45.08Hachimandumternet
14:47.40Vincent20100for stories, Cyrannia wars or Voyage of the Imperator would work quite well
14:49.49Cyranniandanke, I'll nominate the Orion War by AB
14:50.13Vincent20100Drom: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:20100vincent/Mou%27Cyran_-_Black_Hole_Forge_Initiative
14:50.21Vincent20100It might interest you
14:50.53Vincent20100and any Mou'cyran people
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14:51.23GD12Hello
14:51.28CyrannianHello
14:52.06Vincent20100Hey GD
14:54.14Vincent20100Gonna start getting the pieces of the text I have saved
14:54.14CyrannianAny other featured story nominations?
14:54.36GD12ahh, its featured fiction time?
14:54.59CyrannianWell, eleven days ago overdue, but yes. :P
14:55.10GD12hur
14:55.32GD12ngh a couple is arguing i think a few floors downstairs and its loud enough that I can hear it
14:55.37Vincent20100Well, we did last month one the 16th
14:56.29CyrannianSeptember and October are quite busy for me, so there's usually a delay.
14:56.41GD12Also for the Black Hole Forge Initiative people. Given how in the scramble of Mirus there is a rush for the Black Hole FOrges of which there are only 5, perhaps the MCA just gets a Stellar Foundry (still rare only 25 of them) instead?
14:56.54GD12It will still have the industrial capacity you're looking for
14:57.33Vincent20100It may have happen before the scramble
14:58.48Vincent20100Actually...
14:58.52Vincent20100Mmm...
14:58.55Vincent20100is thinking
14:59.06Vincent20100put his thinking cat on his head.
14:59.46GD12Again, the Black Hole Forges are essential to Scramble for Mirus. It would make much more sense to get a Stellar Foundry instead.
15:00.36Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2014:_Featured_Story_Poll
15:01.11CyrannianAny featured captains nominations?
15:01.17Vincent20100Thinking about it, the model itself might also fit better for a Stellar things
15:02.07GD12The Stellar things still have an extremely high industrial output
15:02.43GD12who are the current nominations?
15:03.10Vincent20100Me
15:03.13Vincent20100Myself
15:03.15Vincent20100and I!
15:03.18CyrannianGridlock by Zilla and Scorpio by Bio21
15:06.20Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2014:_Featured_Empire_Poll
15:06.24Vincent20100Vote dudes!
15:08.29Cyrannianhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141011150809/spore/images/b/b1/DesolationBisistar.png - Coming soon
15:09.16GD12damn nice poster
15:11.15Vincent20100Coming in a theather in November 2014.
15:12.10GD12I've intended on creating a poster like that for the Mirus campaign of AD
15:12.12GD12but alas
15:12.13GD12school
15:12.17GD12*uni
15:12.36Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2014:_Featured_Captain_Poll
15:13.18Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2014:_Featured_Creature_Poll
15:15.19Wormy_awayGD12 http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141006000201/spore/images/a/a9/Uncle_Sam%27s_on_the_Sun.png
15:16.03GD1210/10 would watch
15:16.34dromCyrannian: That antialising doe
15:17.25dromVincent20100: http://i.imgur.com/533ldRy.png
15:17.54Vincent20100Are you really doing that on Spore?!
15:18.20dromYes?
15:20.12Vincent20100Mmm...
15:20.35GD12what ship is that
15:20.35Vincent20100Holy hell the polls are tie
15:20.37Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:October_2014:_Featured_Empire_Poll
15:22.02Cyrannian|TORGreat ships drom!
15:22.15Cyrannian|TORDon't worry, I'll recheck the polls tomorrow so there's plenty of time
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15:24.48dromThanks people.
15:24.55dromGD12: Cargo ships.
15:25.03GD12i c
15:25.11dromFitted with 6 dual-cannon turrets for self-defense
15:28.43dromHave an in-game screenshot refering to the first title of the franchise. If I'm not wrong. http://i.imgur.com/b8xkPsc.jpg
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15:35.15Wormy_awaythanks
15:35.18Wormy_awayhi
15:35.23OluapPlayerur welcome dear
15:40.01Xhoreturn of the ups
15:40.42OluapPlayerspu
15:43.05OluapPlayerI left a Varleos quote on Akharavzund
15:43.09OluapPlayerVarelos even
15:44.05OluapPlayer~poke Imperios ImpyDroid
15:44.06infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Imperios ImpyDroid, pokes Imperios ImpyDroid repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
15:44.09OluapPlayerwake up dangit
15:44.43Xhogud
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15:50.04GD12hey
15:50.20GD12moet nice updated uniforms and tank models
15:50.55MonetHello and thanks
15:52.09MonetI've missed the bulk of channel talk today but it loosk like a lot of stuff happened while I was gone
15:54.43MonetOkay maybe not so much.
15:57.10MonetAlthough I imagine that because the primary parties in the Scramble took part in AD, while not all of the industry has been claimed I find it unlikely that -all- of it would have been left untouched.
15:57.24Monetwould have initially been claimed, sorry.
15:57.44GD12Aye but the point is the Black HOle Foundries would all be taken by those parties
15:57.54GD12Given that theres only 5 of them
15:58.05GD12And that the primary parties would probably go to extremes to get them
15:58.22MonetIndeed.
15:59.04GD12The other megastructures which are more common would be much more plausible for secondary parties to get
15:59.14Wormy_awayLol the neighbor singing sounds like a beached whale dying
15:59.22GD12brutal hur
15:59.23Wormy_awayI have been recording it
16:00.12MonetAnd given the primary parties have members that are some of the foremost gigaquadrant powers, there doesn't seem ot be much chance i nsecondary powers claiming them unless they cooperate with one of said powers.
16:00.27MonetThe black hole forges I mean
16:01.08Vincent20100https://www.facebook.com/Russianball/photos/a.317060491747115.78003.317058498413981/576006719185823/?type=1&relevant_count=1
16:01.08GD12Aye
16:01.42GD12hur
16:04.36GD12Shit i've got to study now
16:04.38MonetI think I've managed to make Davius look very beefy in his new armour
16:04.39GD12cyall later
16:04.41MonetOKay
16:28.01Vincent20100Cyrannian...
16:28.04Vincent20100I found you!
16:29.22Vincent20100I was browsing in the sporecasts and saw a cool collection of star was ships
16:29.34Vincent20100Clicked on one of them and read the description
16:29.44Vincent20100"Used by the URC and the NCR".
16:31.10Vincent20100and the tags are: cyrannian, cyrannus, empire, moranosaurus, stardestroyer, starwars
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16:32.57DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
16:33.17Vincent20100Hey Drodo
16:33.46MonetHello
16:35.03Cyrannian|TORVincent20100: Ah yes, my name on the Sporepedia is "moranosaurus"
16:36.27Vincent20100Yah
16:36.29Vincent20100Added you
16:36.34Vincent20100You are by far far
16:36.44Vincent20100my "buddie" with the most creation...
16:36.49Vincent20100850 and still climbing
16:37.15Vincent20100Saw it and though "What are the odds?"
16:37.21Cyrannian|TOR1402 uploaded. I think Imperios has over 3000
16:37.36Vincent20100I have a mere 130
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16:41.57Cyrannian|TORWas that Sporecast created by me?
16:44.15MedwedianPresideHello
16:45.01XhoYou know all this recent chat about people having demons in their dreams
16:45.18XhoI had one last (?) night and there were many demons in them
16:45.22XhoI was also one of them
16:46.02OluapPlayerhur
16:46.09Wormy_awayMy demon has spread to you
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16:50.46HachimanHai
16:50.50DrodoEmpireHey
16:50.59OluapPlayer~cuddle Hachiman
16:51.00infobotACTION grabs Hachiman and cuddles until Hachiman begs for mercy
16:51.27HachimanIs it wrong that I wanna play a D&D character who can summon something like a spirit to punch the shit out of things for him
16:51.52OluapPlayerThat's essentially a Summoner
16:52.14OluapPlayerAlso get back to Skype
16:52.15HachimanI thought a Summoner summoned stuff like animals and stuff?
16:53.08OluapPlayer"The eidolon takes a form shaped by the summoner's desires."
16:53.15Hachimanrite
16:53.16OluapPlayerIt can be whatever you want
16:57.22Xhocue giant dik
16:59.07Vincent20100Guys, I'm renaming my homeplanet cities
16:59.16Vincent20100Anybody wanna have their name among it?
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17:00.30Wormy_awayhi
17:00.57Catfacethrows a wet cat on Xho
17:01.05CatfaceHello pretties.
17:01.47Cyrannian|TORHai thar
17:03.58Wormy_awayCatface:  What you think to have lady I sent you?
17:04.06Wormy_away*to that
17:04.19Vincent20100I renmaed a city to Wromugrad
17:04.49CatfaceWormy_away: Can you send it again? I was out late with friends last night and I was too tried to watch it,
17:06.51Wormy_awayhttp://youtu.be/pyfFoQLlHvM?t=18s
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17:10.13Wormy_awaythis one went angrier http://youtu.be/I4pIRMWlXPw?t=1m20s
17:10.48CatfaceWormy_away: Not a redneck. More like a lazy city girl.
17:12.58Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141011171200/spore/images/b/bc/Savaradrani.png New Void Denizens
17:13.27OluapPlayerarmor thingy
17:14.07Cyrannian|TORbrb
17:14.19CatfaceWormy_away this is classic redneck http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyX5wV-M9w
17:16.14Wormy_awayDo you ever come across them often?
17:18.11CatfaceI live in a redneck town
17:18.34CatfaceAnd I work retail in a refurbished appliance store.
17:18.40CatfaceSo, yeah, I do.
17:18.50dromAmercia?
17:19.55CatfaceYeah.
17:20.09Vincent20100HEy Cat
17:20.14dromNeed less to say, but Alien: Isolation is beautiful. http://i.imgur.com/XTRrvpb.jpg
17:20.15Vincent20100Never seen you before
17:20.51CatfaceI've been here longer than most.
17:20.53Wormy_awayThey sound easier to get along with than I thought
17:23.06CatfaceWormy_away: There are two types of rednecks: The backwards small town/country folks and the loud white trash meth cooking small town/country folk\
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17:25.28dromCatface: Don't forget those toad-eating moonshine cooking banjo players living in swamps.
17:25.46DazelShrek?
17:26.11dromI never mentioned "green skin with different ears".
17:26.17dromSo not an orge.
17:26.41TekDroidBut still close?
17:26.45Monetdrom: The former type would be the one you're thinking of
17:28.26Wormy_awayThere is a difference between hillbillies and rednecks though
17:28.42Wormy_awayIf thats what you mean
17:29.09DazelEh.
17:29.25DazelThere's a differences between lots of things that aren't necessarily worth acknowledging.
17:29.31Dazel* differences, ignore that a
17:32.13dromGoddamn Appalachian rednecks.
17:33.35Vincent20100I find kinda ironic I have a heavily Soviet-inspired fiction, but almost no tanks...
17:34.00DazelMake all the tanks.
17:34.05DazelMake tanks controlled by goldfish.
17:34.06Vincent20100ANd the few tanks I have are walkers
17:34.07DazelFish tanks.
17:34.29Vincent20100Dazel: nah, the walkers looks way cooler
17:34.36Wormy_awayNo, tanks fuelled by potatoes
17:34.44Dazel...It doesn't get cooler than fish tanks, friend.
17:34.46dromVincennt20100: "Here's some tanks. Totally free from shenangians!" *presses a self-destruct button* "Wasn't me."
17:35.16Vincent20100http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140930175443/spore/images/f/ff/Plasma-Burning_Walker_%28Black%29.png
17:35.23Vincent20100http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140930173858/spore/images/2/27/Apocalypse_Walker_%28Black%29.png
17:35.41Vincent20100Gotta love Apocalypses Walkers
17:36.41Vincent20100What I kinda find funny too is we are in the 2800 now
17:36.46Vincent20100and we still use jet fighters
17:37.00MonetI don't think they're jets.
17:37.23Vincent20100http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140913182756/spore/images/0/01/Spore_2014-09-13_14-04-50.png
17:37.24MonetJets require an oxidiser of some kind.
17:37.30Vincent20100Looks pretty jet-ish to me
17:37.57MonetIt looks like a jet, yes, but if these things are capable of orbital traversal, they're using something other than a typical jet engine
17:38.07Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Void_Fortresses#Inhabitants Added inhabitants
17:38.09Vincent20100yah
17:38.32MedwedianPresidehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Medwedian_Democratic_Federation
17:38.42MedwedianPresideGood?
17:38.47Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141011172007/spore/images/c/c4/FortressPriest.png So there are the Void Lords
17:39.02MonetOne of the beautiful aspects of a jet's design is how amazingly aerodynamic and nimble the design is
17:39.09OluapPlayerXho: dat armor
17:39.11OluapPlayerImpressive
17:39.31MedwedianPresideCan somebody give me an opinion whether my progress on the nation page is good?
17:39.34MedwedianPresidehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Medwedian_Democratic_Federation
17:39.44XhoMedwedianPreside: Getting there
17:39.49MedwedianPresideOkay.
17:39.58TekDroidI think part of the reason thry still look like jets is so they can do space and atmosphere.
17:40.12OluapPlayerAlso you forgot a {{clr}} in the Importuning Cleric
17:40.16MedwedianPresideThose are Skylon-like semijet engines
17:40.28Xhodid i nao
17:40.54XhoI might recolour their models to better suit Void Denizens
17:40.57MedwedianPresideIs my fiction good for a WIP first real fiction?
17:40.59XhoIn other words glossy black
17:41.09DrodoEmpireI'd say so, Medwedian
17:41.32Vincent20100MedwedianPreside: it needs a little bit of formating
17:41.36DazelIt is pretty good, MedwedianPreside.
17:41.44MedwedianPresideWhat formatting should I do?
17:41.52Vincent20100Like, unifromising the content, the titles etc.
17:42.02MedwedianPresideWhat does unifromising mean?
17:42.10DazelI would suggest that you abstain from using terms like "things," though.  Being specific is good.
17:42.11Vincent20100Most fiction actually use similar format
17:42.13MedwedianPresideAh...Uniformizing
17:42.21MedwedianPresideIt is a WIP
17:42.24XhoOluapPlayer: You can add Crystallis demons there if you want
17:42.31OluapPlayeryey
17:42.31MedwedianPresideso do not expect it to be the best fiction ever as of now
17:42.34XhoAbyss Drake would faller under High Rank
17:42.41DazelWell, no-one is suggesting that.
17:42.42Xhofall*
17:43.10OluapPlayerAbyss Drake - ayyy i lead now               Ahdarin - WHO LET U IN
17:43.10Vincent20100Also Medwedian, try making better pictures
17:43.16Vincent20100It helps a lot
17:43.18Vincent20100brb
17:43.20DrodoEmpireI do like your use of 18th and 19th century terms for the military; Nice touch that sort of brings out there traditionalist nature
17:43.27XhoVoid Guardian - [who dis bitch]
17:43.31DrodoEmpire*Their
17:43.40MedwedianPresideThanks for the compliments.
17:43.48XhoIn other news, I did make another model for Caligaduro but I'm considering to make it a general Void Denizen
17:43.55MedwedianPresideAlso;
17:43.55OluapPlayerShow dis
17:44.03MedwedianPresidedo my vehicles and soldiers look good?
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17:44.50DrodoEmpireThey look alright, yeah
17:44.57DrodoEmpireBetter than what I can make
17:45.09MedwedianPresideI will make a picture of my Soldiers in a large formation
17:45.19OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AVoid_Denizen dis needs fillin'
17:45.31Xhowat part
17:45.46Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141011174512/spore/images/c/c6/CaligaduroDenizen.png dere
17:46.03OluapPlayerSoaring Terror part
17:46.10OluapPlayerAlso add Fortress denizens in dere
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17:46.14OluapPlayerand make Pavor peeps
17:46.38OluapPlayerLooks like a Xhodocto with Caligaduro's face
17:46.50XhoPretty much
17:47.08XhoI'll probably make them Void Denizens
17:47.21OluapPlayerSantorakh - You know what this Fortress needs?                                    cheese                            perhaps some rum too                   Pelagrios - I LIKE YOU
17:47.47XhoPelagrios Cheese-Cutter
17:52.07Xhohungry
17:52.42OluapPlayereet a dik
17:52.53Xhoadd ur damn aboos drake
17:54.48OluapPlayerbleh
17:54.58OluapPlayerI'm not sure what they'd do in a Void Fortress
17:55.04OluapPlayerOther than occupy space hur
17:55.20Xho#occupyosdaemonis
17:55.26OluapPlayerolol
17:55.49XhoThe Ahdarin could command them within their fortresses
17:56.25OluapPlayerrite
17:57.20XhoOr summon them
17:57.28XhoAhdarin have great summoning powas
17:57.40XhoThey could summon Abyss Drakes, Void Drakes, Void Guardians etc
17:57.45OluapPlayerAh
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18:02.55OluapPlayerXho: dun
18:03.02Xhogud
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18:03.59CyrannianHello.
18:05.35Wormy_awayhi
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18:08.10CyrannianHi there
18:09.11MonetHello
18:19.01dromToo bad.
18:31.28OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#Children_of_Khuamkira disgustin'
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18:40.57OluapPlayer~kick Xho
18:40.58infobotACTION kicks Xho
18:41.05MonetHello
18:41.35AngrybirdsHey!
18:45.52Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZovDW_460sa_v1.gif
18:46.10Xhowat
18:46.30OluapPlayerc sekshun
18:48.26XhoSea Witch - Except no. Into the flesh forest!... Wait.                         Vargash - dat not me u dum
18:50.00XhoSo many references
18:51.05XhoSo much ew as well
19:03.50MedwedianPresideSo...
19:04.02MedwedianPresideis Angrybirds active?
19:04.44MedwedianPresideWho of you is part of the Xonexian Schism?
19:04.56MonetI am
19:05.04MonetHe is active.
19:05.22MedwedianPresideDo you want to write a strory or make a battle with me?
19:05.39TekDroidHe just appears to bd baving connection issues at the moment
19:05.56MedwedianPresideAnybody wants to write a story or make a battle with me?
19:06.32MonetI'm up for something
19:06.39MedwedianPresideWhat are you up for?
19:06.55MonetAlthough not sure of the context since the DI has been largely abstinant fro mthe Orion War
19:07.08MedwedianPresideAnyway
19:07.15MedwedianPresidedo you want to wage a battle against me?
19:07.27MonetRight now I'm up for anything
19:07.32MedwedianPresideOkay.
19:07.39MedwedianPresideSo...let's prepare the battle
19:07.43MedwedianPresideHow will it be done>
19:07.51MonetAlthough prior warning you will be encountering superior fireower.
19:08.01MedwedianPresideWhat do you mean by that>
19:08.04Monetfirepower*
19:08.32MonetWell the DI is borderline tier 1
19:08.34TekDroidDI one of the foremost powers in the Gigaquadrant.
19:09.20MedwedianPresideDo you have any tier 4 or tier 5 or at least tier 3 powers
19:09.40MonetI have one in Andromeda
19:09.51MonetThe alternative is you could try guerella tactics
19:11.32MedwedianPresideSo...you have one in Andromeda...
19:11.39MedwedianPresideand my nation is in the Milky Way
19:12.01MedwedianPresideDo you think a tier 4 or tier 3 is theoretically capable of intergalactic travel
19:12.03MedwedianPreside?
19:12.45MedwedianPresideSince Andromeda is 2.5 millions of light years from Ursus Prime.
19:13.06MonetCasually? It might be unlikely. But I could have this andromedan faction have frontier settlements in the Milky Way
19:13.15MedwedianPresideGood.
19:13.28MedwedianPresideSo what is then the casus belli and stuff?
19:13.41MedwedianPresideAnd is it part of the Xonexi Schism or should we make a separate war?
19:14.01MonetCould be part of the schism, it has room for other flashpoints
19:14.25MedwedianPresideOkay.
19:14.31MedwedianPresideSo what is the casus belli then?
19:14.37MedwedianPresideBut first,
19:14.41MedwedianPresidedescribe your species
19:17.21Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Solonese_Union
19:17.26MonetHere you go
19:17.28MedwedianPresideOkay.
19:17.33MedwedianPresideWe will fight tomorrow, okay?
19:18.30MedwedianPresideDo not forget to add into the page about the Milky Way outposts.
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19:18.55MedwedianPresideAnd add the fact that we are at war.
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19:20.15MonetHello
19:20.30MonetMedwedian: We still need to discuss the Cassus Belli
19:21.05GD12Hello
19:21.13GD12Ooh, hey everyone
19:21.42MedwedianPresideI unfortunately have no time now
19:21.44MedwedianPresideTomorrow
19:22.08GD12casus belli for what?
19:22.24GD12I think I've made the decision to slack off today instead of studying :)
19:22.46MedwedianPresideBye
19:23.08HachimanGD12: You can't slack off, you have Asian stuff to do
19:23.32Wormy_awayGD12:  I'm going to put my browser into an infinite loop!
19:24.05GD12I'm already ahead by enough to chill for today, the Asianess resumes tomorrow perhaps.
19:24.24HachimanThat's what you would like to believe
19:24.28HachimanBut little do you know
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19:24.32Wormy_Well that was fun
19:24.33HachimanThe Asianess never ends
19:25.08GD12The asianess never ends thats true
19:25.13Cyrannianflings himself at Wormy
19:25.21Wormy_I was making a loop in js
19:25.30GD12and it was an inifite loop?
19:25.41Wormy_for (var i = 8 ; i < 120; i+12) { makes it loop for eternity
19:25.58GD12i think its i += 12
19:26.04Wormy_for (var i = 8 ; i < 120; i+=12) { doesn't though
19:26.15GD12doesn't loop forever?
19:26.23Wormy_aye
19:26.33Wormy_It did make my browser freeze
19:26.38GD12Thats because in the second one you increment i by 12 each time
19:26.56GD12the first doesn't increment it
19:27.14GD12hence infinite loop
19:27.17Wormy_I did the loop on purpose for fun
19:27.42Wormy_Is it related to class of non-computational functions?
19:27.43GD12ahh i see
19:27.51GD12infinite loops?
19:27.53Wormy_yeah
19:27.58GD12yeah
19:28.05GD12I think its a bit related to the Church-Turing thesis
19:28.07Wormy_Things like the Tiling Problem or Halting Problem
19:28.09GD12yeah
19:28.14GD12the Halting Problem i mean
19:28.29GD12Something about there being an inifite loop in the Halint Problem
19:28.36GD12*any solution to the
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19:28.45GD12Hence why the halting problem can't really be solved
19:29.12GD12Computer Science is fun :)
19:29.21Wormy_Indeed
19:29.31GD12Of course the workload involved in it can become quite masochistic at times :)
19:29.48Wormy_Especially when extended to other areas of physics
19:30.41GD12aye
19:31.32Wormy_Epistemology, Physics of Computation, Quantum Mechanics and Evolution are David Deutsch's four strands in Fabric of Reality
19:33.42GD12ngh I really want to take physics courses and get good at it but I don't really have time to study it as a subject in its own right, which kind of sucks
19:34.01GD12I intend to go through the Theoretical Physics book by George Joos at some point in time since I have the math background needed to do so.
19:34.25DazelWhere do Fictional Creatures go?
19:34.37DazelCreature:[[CREATURE NAME]] or something?
19:35.33Wormy_I've read enough physics books but now I'm doing the opposite, picking up books which teach the maths physicists use
19:36.25Wormy_So far I've got some books by Roger Penrose who isn't shy of using maths, and GEB which has a lot of logic
19:36.49Wormy_I might get Theoretical Minimum too by Leonard Susskind
19:37.24GD12thats a video series too iirc
19:37.40GD12I have a friend whos meeting with Leonard Susskind in  a few months actually
19:38.08Wormy_I've done geophysics of course but thats very applied and won't teach mathematical structures used by physicists generally
19:38.09GD12He invited me to tag along if by that point in time I knew enough physics to not look like a total dum :)
19:38.16GD12i c
19:38.33Wormy_Speaking of which, I've been in contact with Deutsch on Twitter
19:38.42GD12odere
19:38.43GD12noice
19:39.22Wormy_https://twitter.com/TobyJIB/status/512286061385748480
19:39.55Wormy_I don't think he knew my answer...
19:39.55GD12you have communed directly with god
19:39.59GD12hur
19:40.00Wormy_lol
19:40.53Wormy_I'm going to ask him another soon about whether determinism really means there is no free will
19:41.03GD12i c
19:41.36Wormy_The common argument is that it does, but if on a global scale there is no flow of time, and the multiverse generates alternative decisions, I think not so
19:43.11Wormy_Basically the view is time doesn't lay down events, instead the law of physics decides whether something is caual (where there is an arrow of time) or acausal (like the beginning of the universe).  So even if you removed 60% of the universe's hisatory, all events after would still exist
19:44.29DazelI haven't read this entire conversation, but I was fairly sure time didn't actually exist anymore than a kilometre or an inch existed.
19:45.17Wormy_The flow of time is subjective, and indeed, physics generally treats time, or spacetime, as a frozen block.
19:45.34DazelWell, the flow of time might be subjective, but measured time isn't, right?
19:47.01Wormy_Well, at any particular moment Y, you would have a clock measured against moment X, and so on.  The measurements made at any particular moment would remain consistent
19:47.07CyrannianNgh, how did you find me on Twitter, Wormy
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19:47.48Wormy_Wasn't you subscribed to SporeWiki like I am?
19:48.08CyrannianOh yes
19:49.08CyrannianFollowed you back
19:49.38Wormy_Hm, you follow snapchat hur
19:50.00GD12Hello there
19:50.02Wormy_There is a ripped image of a pair of breasts on the panel
19:50.14HachimanWHERE
19:50.41Wormy_https://twitter.com/iSnapBabesDaily
19:50.42GD12*an image of a pair of ripped breasts
19:51.52CyrannianThat was probably a case of someone following me so I felt obliged to follow back
19:52.40Wormy_Snapchat is this social media site where people send images to each other, and images delete themselves.  Instantly people uploaded porn
19:52.47GD12http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/snappening-thousands-kids-young-10-4417800
19:52.52Wormy_But then it got hacked into
19:53.00GD12Well about 100,000 nudes are getting leaked some time this week
19:54.22Vincent_is_Awaytest
19:54.33GD12failed
19:54.35GD120%
19:54.43Wormy_All these celebs getting their cloud images hacked, serves em right imo
19:54.44GD12can't get into your major now hur
19:54.50GD12#unijokes
19:55.06Wormy_They didn't have to upload porn of themselves
19:55.15Vincent_is_AwayLike if there wasn't enough tits yet on the iterweb
19:55.19Vincent_is_Away*inter
19:55.34GD12There are never enough!
19:55.39CyrannianMost of my tweets consist of me complaining about something
19:58.31DazelCyrannian: I think that's fairly typical.
19:58.56CyrannianGood point.
19:59.35GD12Damnit I can't wait till Winter break so I can do AD stuff
20:01.36CyrannianSpeaking of which, I updated the ATR's page with details about AD
20:03.02GD12im checking that out now
20:04.20GD12ooh nice
20:05.31GD12Also nice pimped Ulysee tank for the ATR
20:08.55CyrannianAye, credit to AB
20:08.58GD12brb
20:12.47GD12back
20:13.42XhoOluapPlayer: http://mrambisinistrous.deviantart.com/art/Team-Fighter-2-Eidolon-vs-Spu-487830230
20:14.42OluapPlayerdat spu
20:23.47Wormy_back
20:31.12GD12hmm
20:31.18GD12wat to do
20:31.35OluapPlayergimme Junction quote like you said you wanted to
20:31.56GD12i kind of want to do some fiction now but idk what to do
20:32.01GD12ahh
20:32.03GD12that
20:32.07GD12on to it
20:36.07GD12OluapPLayer : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Junction#Quotes
20:36.10GD12check it
20:36.51OluapPlayerI'll check in a sec
20:40.56OluapPlayerGD12: Now that's a really cool quote, thanks
20:41.05GD12no problem
20:49.51GD12i think ill spore in a bit
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20:50.39JepardiHi
20:50.44GD12hey
20:52.40GD12hmm wot to do
20:53.03OluapPlayerfinish paegs
20:53.38Vincent20100Gd?
20:58.17GD12hmm
20:58.24GD12?
21:00.55Vincent20100nah, you arleady answered
21:01.32Cyrannian|Awaybrb
21:14.45OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#Entering_the_Castle probably the most explicit section in the wiki
21:15.59drom[Classified] http://i.imgur.com/3ooSijS.png
21:16.29XhoMoreso than Incognito?
21:17.02HachimanNot explicit in that sense
21:17.27XhoOh god now I'm scared
21:18.04GD12Alfgund and Hachi sat beside one another, watching intently as the two Succubi passionately made out with one another with no evident sign of them coming to a stop
21:18.12XhoSea Witch - fuks sake hao do i keep gettin caught up in dis god war shizzle
21:18.55dromSporewiki's most terrifying user is now terrified. What kind of sorcery is this?
21:19.35XhoTerror
21:19.42Xho#10outof10
21:20.00OluapPlayerhur
21:20.15OluapPlayerStill it has a huge skeleton vs demon war
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21:20.53XhoKanna - Autis-- Hachi - Ssssh.
21:20.56XhoMy sides
21:20.56DrodoEmpireBack.
21:21.45Vincent20100Hey Drodo
21:22.04XhoCaligaduro - this type of shit is why i destroy worlds
21:22.23OluapPlayerGolem - shup expandin dong
21:22.44Hachimanexpand golem
21:22.58OluapPlayerbrb
21:23.05drom"not enough minerals!"
21:23.07XhoMeanwhile Kinmo arrives late to the quest, looks at the scene, and leaves
21:23.34HachimanKinmo - 500% dun
21:24.08XhoKinmo - go save ur own world if u think undressin and havin orgies is da way to go
21:24.14dromVincent20100: While your APR is building an superstructure. I'm afraid they will have a competition in an classified deep space location. http://i.imgur.com/8jPnGYg.png
21:24.37drom(The rings were a royal pain the arse to make)
21:24.59Vincent20100I know that feel bro
21:25.37XhoKinmo - wen ur quite done                  Dragostea - never                 Kinmo - #done
21:26.06Hachimanolol
21:26.41Monetdrom: Were you here when Ghel and I talked about mining intergalactic space?
21:26.51dromHmh?
21:28.07MonetGhel Wormy and I talked a few days ago and we're not sure what could be out there to be worth the effort that is not already in galaxies.
21:28.32XhoKinmo - im not there on two quests              on one u release caligaduro               on the other u get naked and kiss                 LEVEL THE FUCK UP
21:29.04MonetMost of the intergalactic medium is hydrogen and oxygen.
21:29.08OluapPlayerrite back
21:29.21dromMonet: Indeed, but does our current knowledge of physics uncover every secret to exist in our universe?
21:30.25MonetWe have a fairly solid understanding of how the universe works in the present.
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21:31.00GD12Hello Tybusen !
21:31.05TybusenHello!
21:31.08dromHey
21:31.27Wormy_hi
21:32.03Wormy_I kept a pastie of the conversation
21:34.02dromcool, I'll take a look at it after a small playthrough of this game.
21:34.42Vincent20100Drom: I'm actually surprise, me and cyra though you would participate in the project
21:35.05GD12which project is this?
21:35.39Wormy_http://pastie.org/private/0yiwhnxrbtrvzs2yugcjog
21:35.43Vincent20100Wait... Intergalactic rift mining.,..
21:35.59Vincent20100Why are you always talking about my stuff!
21:36.20GD12fI don't get it what project does this refer to?
21:37.43MonetVincent20100: You're not offended are you?
21:38.05Wormy_I didn't even know who's idea it was.
21:38.48Vincent20100Nah
21:38.58Vincent20100But mining in the rift present a serious advantage
21:39.17GD12i doubt it
21:39.26Vincent20100The lack of major gravity wells make scanners way more efficient and travelling speed are way faster
21:39.39GD12tl;dr intergalactic rifts are just galaxys which are a lot less dense
21:40.01GD12*density
21:40.06MonetOnly a bit faster.
21:40.09GD12I think density is a plus side when mining for materials
21:40.23MonetThis is what I was trying to point out
21:40.31GD12I'd much rather mine if all the gold was located in one square kilometer than spread out over 100 thousand (same quantity i nboth)
21:40.47GD12I'd say deep space is better for ultra secret research installations?
21:41.05MonetGD12: WOuld you rather panhandle a stream a thousand miles fro mcivilisation ,or the mountain that's close to the city?
21:41.21GD12mountain hur
21:43.10Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rift_Collector.png
21:43.18Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:APR_Rift_Mining_Station.png
21:43.36Vincent20100I love the station
21:43.46Vincent20100with the tiny collector delivering it's payload
21:44.09MonetThere could be a gap of many many millions of miles between asteroids.
21:44.15Monetin the IG rifts
21:44.20MonetOr possibly light hours
21:44.56Vincent20100It doesn't matter when you have wormholes
21:44.58MonetWhile true there is less of a gravitational force withi nthe rifts, that also means things are much less likely to congeal
21:45.31TybusenI could see the rifts as being potentially useful for some sort of rogue state that can't afford to settle down in any galaxy
21:45.33MonetYes but wormholes require some very advanced tech.
21:45.58GD12and creating wormholes on the go is tough
21:46.08GD12if you have a wormhole for each asteroid etc
21:46.25MonetI think there are only a handful of civilizations that have the knowhow and resources to casually make wormholes.
21:46.37Vincent20100Send the vessel through a hole to the destination, let it collect the loot and then come back by it's own. It's unmanned so it can take it's time
21:46.37Wormy_The only concievable way I can think of is that the rifts contain some exotic material rare in galaxies, but even that requires changes to cosmology and the like
21:46.52GD12I think for those civilizations wormholes are still large infrasturcutral projets, though they can be done reliably
21:47.31GD12Again, intergalactic rifts are good for things other than mining methinks
21:47.44MonetWormy: Changes as in additions or refuting long-established cosmological concepts?
21:47.44GD12Prisons/Surveillance Installations/Research Installations etc
21:47.59TybusenThe rifts would probably be better for maximum-security operations rather than resource extraction operations
21:48.12Wormy_yeah
21:48.15Vincent20100The rift also contain matter that passed ithrought the core, got heavily affected by extreme conditions as intense gamma bombardment and large gravity forces, and then expulsed of it
21:48.27Wormy_Not sure
21:48.38TybusenThe intergalactic rifts are the equivalent of oceans between continents in space
21:48.45Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141011214808/spore/images/7/78/Surdorovin.png We now have Fantasy Xhodoctoesque creatures
21:48.52Wormy_As Ghelae said my proposal of it being a negative energy density violates the Equivalence Principle
21:48.55MonetMore like oceans between islands.
21:49.12TybusenEven with an ocean, most of the extractable resources are near the coast anyways
21:49.14GD12the interesting stuff probably hands around the galactic core or hyperspace
21:49.26TybusenEvery oil rig is in mostly shallow waters
21:49.38XhoThough instead they are named Surodorovin or Exalted Sovereigns
21:49.47MonetTybusen: Every galaxy's halo region is a coastline of sorts.
21:49.55MonetA mineral-poor coastline but still a coastline
21:49.59TybusenYeah
21:50.10OluapPlayersmells oddly of cheese
21:50.17GD12If you want dense stuff hang around black holes/nebulate/investigate hyperspace
21:50.23XhoSantorakh - yeh m8
21:50.36TybusenAnd no one will spend resources on something in the middle of the ocean unless it was designed for the purpose of no one ever finding it
21:50.39XhoExalted Sovereigns in a way exist as the rulers of the Void
21:50.58MonetWhen it comes to mining GD12 is right, if you want abundance, you want material density.
21:51.27MonetSomething the intergalactic rifts largely lack
21:51.29TybusenYeah, the idea of the Motherlode existed for a reason
21:51.45TybusenBecause panning for gold in the rivers was an extremely hit-or-miss business
21:51.59MonetWe could still make a story of it in the form of a failed venture.
21:52.21MonetVery rarely in stories here do protagonists seem to fail.
21:52.32GD12thats true
21:52.57GD12But the main logic is this
21:53.09GD12You obviously want to minimize the cost of gathering a given material
21:53.37GD12For the sake of argument say that it is harder to find a material if there is the same amount of it over a larger area than the same amount in a smaller area
21:53.58GD12The basis of this is that you have to survey more, mine more, travel more etc
21:54.07MonetAlso the wormhole idea it probably involves exotic matter, which will drive up the cost quite a bit.
21:54.17GD12Intergalactic voids are a LOT less dense than those galacting things
21:54.54TybusenThough I guess a lot of the Tier 3 and up nations have sufficient resources for practically any undertaking during peacetime
21:55.50TybusenThough it is more expensive to have to keep setting up new resource collectors than to just maintain one
21:56.15Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Void_Denizen#Nothing Added Soaring Terror and Exalted Sovereigns
21:56.22TybusenOtherwise then I'd think the Gulf of Mexico would be lined coast to coast with oil rigs
21:57.54XhoThe Surdorovin were essentially Caligaduro's first creations aside from Vargash and Kaicaiusarin
21:58.22MonetOil rigs are a pain to build and set up and it can take a few years for them to pay back their construction and setup costs.
21:59.24XhoMakkarast has no authority next to the Surdorovin as Makkarast only has such authority over those on Koldenwelt
22:00.21TybusenExactly
22:00.55TybusenIt would be a lot harder to build a bunch of mining plants across a wide area to gather its resources than to build one mining plant in a small area that has equivalent amount of resources
22:01.54XhoI should put on the Void Fortress page that every Void Fortress had 49 Exalted Sovereign statues within them
22:01.59Xhoor has
22:02.20XhoWhich is kinda silly for Akharav since he doesn't know what the Exalted Sovereigns are
22:02.55XhoI suppose one could say they're Caligaduro's equivalent of the Phoenixes
22:03.47OluapPlayerAkharav - who dis
22:04.03XhoExalted Sovereign - void bosses             u dum fuk
22:04.30XhoI'm not sure whether even Kinmorunddraver knows of them
22:04.42OluapPlayerKinmorunddraver - who dis
22:04.50XhoWell, actually I guess he does since he's destroyed enough Void Fortresses to know what they should be
22:05.15XhoPretty much the Void Illuminati
22:05.39XhoExcept they're all god-like demons who sit in a circle in the very centre of the Void
22:06.48OluapPlayerhttps://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/293870_333250426803771_474512295_n.jpg?oh=66f2c42cf73178bb912dac0f5ca7386e&oe=54ABDFD6 fug
22:07.31Wormy_This is how exploration geologists classify reserves http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/McKelveyDiagram.jpg/1280px-McKelveyDiagram.jpg
22:07.38XhoAsv-Aldz - dis is wat u get 4 bein racist u dum humans
22:08.29Wormy_Confidence increases with not only measure but economic viability, thus lots of ore lolcalities are simply not viable to extract
22:09.04ImpyDroidXho: Void Illuminati
22:09.16Wormy_I'd say the principle may apply to rifts, they are too thin and too hard to mine unless its very very special
22:09.17ImpyDroidAre they secretly in charge of Caligaduro hur
22:09.23ImpyDroidOh and are they Jewish
22:09.52XhoWell in a way they are in charge of Caligaduro since currently Caligaduro's just a super-colossal sleeping statue in the Void
22:10.06OluapPlayerhttp://hugelolcdn.com/i700/311393.jpg
22:10.10Wormy_http://images.slideplayer.us/2/706222/slides/slide_11.jpg
22:10.31XhoOluapPlayer: whut
22:13.38XhoI doubt the Surdorovin will ever be in fiction unless I set a fiction in the Void
22:17.38OluapPlayerhttps://38.media.tumblr.com/ad31a590bc2904c491446305b53388f8/tumblr_nd4pcclISZ1qewacoo1_500.jpg
22:18.05Vincent20100^I failed for this one
22:18.12Vincent20100THouh they were dnosaurs
22:18.54MonetThose are cute
22:19.34OluapPlayerXho: http://i.imgur.com/4uZ0XFs.jpg
22:19.48ImpyDroidTiny dinosaurs
22:19.53ImpyDroidThat'd be cute
22:20.02XhoOh my
22:20.22Vincent20100I'm starting to save for one right now!
22:24.12XhoI wonder what would happen if a Surdorovin appeared on Koldenwelt's surface
22:24.25Xho- cue cheese joke
22:25.39OluapPlayerhur
22:27.13XhoI can't imagine it would be a good thing though since one of the 49 beings responsible for all civilisation in the Void would be then on the surface
22:27.51XhoIt's extremely extremely extremely unlikely that it would ever happen since the Surdorovin are mainly confined to their circle
22:28.38OluapPlayerhttps://36.media.tumblr.com/8ad2d0572895750f545391c25fa66e01/tumblr_muiyo35JuB1qhnegdo1_500.jpg
22:28.49Vincent20100HO MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!
22:29.01Vincent20100I just got Games of Thrones 4!!!!!!!!!!!
22:29.33TekDroid[insert any character name here] dies!
22:30.02Vincent20100lol
22:30.03TekDroid:P
22:30.09Vincent20100Tek: I would rather do...
22:30.25Vincent20100"(insert names here) survives!"
22:39.27XhoLooking at past stories
22:39.33XhoKinmorunddraver actually is a bit of a cunt
22:40.52CyrannianNightie night
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22:45.28Zillafire101Hello all.
22:45.28DrodoEmpireHello
22:45.56MonetHello
22:47.29Vincent20100Dammit!
22:47.55Vincent20100I have Games of thrones on USB and can't play it!
22:47.58Vincent20100HAAAAA!
22:48.27TekDroidSo today I learned my 96-year-old great-gramdmother apparently watches the Walking Dead. O.o
22:48.42DrodoEmpireReally? XD
22:48.48TekDroidApparently. XD
22:49.26MonetGood on her
22:49.31dromVincent20100: To clear up your confusion with NC's megastructure. It a completely different thing.
22:51.08dromThe pictured station was just a huge, if not extremely, station in comission for researach, survillance and behind-drapery operations.
22:52.16Vincent20100HO MY GOSH!
22:52.19Vincent20100I WORKED!
22:52.22Vincent20100HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
22:52.32Vincent20100Vincent_GamesOfThrones!!!!
22:52.35dromit*?
22:52.56Xho"Clothovera - [This woman looks like an absolute bitch.]" First impression of Javina
22:53.09Vincent_GoT_S4I will be watching games of thrones 4 for a while
22:53.18Vincent_GoT_S4just got the whole season to work on my PC
22:55.32Vincent_GoT_S4Can't wait to see the arrogant little brick to die...
22:56.46Vincent_GoT_S4*prick
23:06.05TekDroidhttps://m.imgur.com/gallery/jbivbxr This is awesome.
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23:28.24dromfuck fuck fuck
23:28.35dromi meet the alien, and it was unsettling
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23:50.24Vincent_GoT_S4Finished the first episode
23:50.28Wormy_Hachiman:  Finally added quotes to the Tā, hope you don't mind the last quote.  If playboy mansions still exist in the future the Tā would be emplyable
23:50.29Vincent_GoT_S4AMAZINF!
23:51.40Vincent_GoT_S4*G
23:52.06Hachimanhur I like it
23:52.10HachimanThanks Wormy
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