IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141007

00:00.08AdmiralPandaI probably won't because I won't be here for long
00:00.08DrodoEmpireThough its really, really fun
00:01.24DrodoEmpireTek: I conquered all of east asia (with an exception of Japan) and most of india and I was still losing thirty a month
00:01.27ElectricPlantyoh and you can leave at any time
00:01.36Tek0516O.O
00:02.56AdmiralPandamy last game of Civ 5 I conquered two civs before anyone reached the Renaissance, I had something along the lines of -23 happiness and -30 gold per turn
00:03.07AdmiralPandaabout twenty turns later I had 15 happiness and 60gpt
00:04.00Tek0516O.O
00:04.38MonetI call BS
00:05.00AdmiralPandaMonet: Two capital cities, once they went out of revolt they gave me a crapton of money
00:05.56AdmiralPandaplus the social policy in Tradition which makes units not cost upkeep when stationed in a city
00:08.32AdmiralPandaother than that, I built a bunch of courthouses to deal with the extra unhappiness, and after a while I had positive happiness again
00:09.04AdmiralPandabtw, does anyone play the MMO Archeage?
00:09.13DrodoEmpireNope.
00:09.31MonetNot personally but I know a lot of peopel who do
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00:10.34AdmiralPandaI'm going to start playing it next week, so just wondering if anyone played so we could play together
00:11.23AdmiralPandaoh and this reminds me, I'm going to have Space Engineers on thursday as well, so depending on what you need to do to play that in multiplayer that could be a thing
00:36.29DrodoEmpiretest
00:45.38MonetGoodnight
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01:14.21DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Culture
01:14.35DrodoEmpireAdded a section on Drodo families
01:14.36Knight_AlienYay
01:20.17DrodoEmpire...Its not often you see "Earth's Shadow" trending on Facebook.
01:20.20DrodoEmpire:P
01:29.35DrodoEmpiretest
01:56.44DrodoEmpiretest
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01:58.47Knight_AlienHELLO , COmrade
01:58.53Vincent20100Hey Knight!
01:59.16DrodoEmpireHey
02:01.51Vincent20100What a day...
02:02.14DrodoEmpireHow was it?
02:02.54Knight_AlienYou had a GOOD day!?
02:03.09Vincent20100Nah
02:03.20Vincent20100Spent whole day cooking freaking potatoes
02:03.27Vincent2010010 whole bags of them...
02:03.55DrodoEmpireWell Knight, "What a day" can be followed by anything from "I've been crowned Emperor for life!" to "I got mugged by rabid honeybadgers!"
02:03.58Knight_AlienWe were talking about Potatoes on the Irc XD
02:04.10Vincent20100You woudl'nt even beleive how many freaking ways you can cook a potatoes.
02:04.36Knight_AlienCatface came on asking about how people like their Potatoes.
02:04.58Knight_AlienAnd he gave a Xho a (Fake) Potatoe farm.
02:11.05Vincent20100This isn't FarmVille!
02:11.29DrodoEmpirepoints at Vincent
02:11.40Vincent20100Mmm?
02:11.48DrodoEmpireDon't you be gettin' all uppity now
02:26.44DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/Fggq0Gf.png - Ugghh...
02:26.48DrodoEmpireWeeaboos...
02:27.49Knight_AlienTheir...ignorance stenchs this world.
02:28.32Knight_AlienLike I have said before Art can be looked upon and loved but to destroy your Nationality just to be a wannabe is stupid.
02:28.59Knight_AlienSome go to the point of changing Religions , the morons.
02:29.25Knight_AlienI personally find European culture very fun and Interesting.
02:29.39DrodoEmpireYeah, same.
02:30.12Knight_AlienI think what happens is that they watch Anime and just overall stuff of Japan and they cloud themselves with it.
02:30.24DrodoEmpireI also hate Katana-cultists; A subset of weeaboos that I personally dislike
02:30.50Vincent20100going to bed
02:30.53Vincent20100++
02:30.53Knight_AlienKatan-Cultists what do they do worship Katanas?
02:30.55Knight_Alienbye
02:31.54DrodoEmpireNo, not literally
02:32.04DrodoEmpireThey just think katanas are the best swords on earth
02:32.25DrodoEmpireThey're fairly good swords and effective for what they do; But they're no match for European armour.
02:32.37DrodoEmpire*for what they're up against
02:32.55Knight_Alienoh.
02:33.01DrodoEmpireSorry; *no* sword can cut through solid steel.
02:33.08Knight_AlienYeah XD
02:34.35Knight_AlienJapan: the Country that can be Bombed, Naturally hurt but still lives on to spread Anime and wierd cults....
02:50.13DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10570427_1070765362952916_7744241198522589159_n.jpg?oh=6eb719681873a5dd73d50536aed83dd1&oe=54CEA4BF&__gda__=1422529775_46fb07b43a362d9e66351d6a954e331f
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02:51.09OfficerJackalHello!
02:51.16Knight_Alienhi'
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03:38.10Tek0516Damnit. Finally finished BSG Season 3 and Season 4 is corrupted. >.<
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08:21.07Wormy_harasses Liquid_Ink
08:23.45Liquid_InkHello
08:27.33Wormy_hi
08:38.54Liquid_InkHow are you?
08:46.11Wormy_alrate
08:51.17Liquid_InkAvatar just irritated me
08:52.04Liquid_InkIn the third episode, Zuko greets Zhao as "Captain" but then he smugly says that it's "Commander now" and later is promoted again to admiral.
08:52.15Liquid_InkBut Commander is actually below Captain
08:56.03Wormy_Hm
09:20.27Liquid_InkOther than that I just love this show
09:20.43Liquid_InkWell, there are other irritations but I still love this show.
09:25.00Liquid_InkWell
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10:26.22AdmiralPandahello all
10:26.40Liquid_InkHello
10:28.43Tom|AwayHola.
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10:51.51HachimanHai
10:54.18AdmiralPandahai buniman
10:54.39AdmiralPandaI'm buying a gaming pc on thursday
11:03.02HachimanOh sweet
11:15.47HachimanThis Emmette Hernandez Coleman dude needs to sort out his attitude
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11:27.27HachimanHai
11:27.43OluapWorkerHi
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11:41.35Knight_AlienHello
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12:16.23JepardiHi
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12:58.13Wormy_hi
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12:58.44Vincent20100Hey
13:19.40Vincent20100So quiet...
13:33.58HachimanBack for a few minutes
13:33.59Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10689921_1070759219620197_3870181385166583626_n.jpg?oh=74afcde6d363b8ceb2ad03cdb38ed957&oe=54B97E4B
13:34.50AdmiralPandaHachiman: Sounds about right
13:35.13AdmiralPandaFun fact: the guys at my work have been performing so efficiently we've overloaded the mind of our government liason
13:39.37Hachimanrite bbs
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13:43.31Vincent20100Hey Drom
14:21.44Vincent20100You  know what there should be...
14:21.54Vincent20100A place for Mou Cyran members to talk
14:23.42Wormy_Nah
14:24.08Wormy_Fiction boards on the wiki should be public, its less segregated.
14:27.01HachimanRight back properly now
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14:32.44Technobliteratorhii
14:39.56Vincent20100Hey
14:40.15Wormy_hi
14:40.57AdmiralPandahi all
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14:41.55HachimanFucking stupid computer
14:53.12Technobliteratorbah
14:53.45TechnobliteratorI was going to thank that Emmette guy for actually helping the mainspace out, turns out I won't be doing that
14:59.16HachimanWhat a fuckwit
15:00.13AdmiralPandaWhat's going on with him? I'm confused
15:00.36Technobliteratorwhining at Oluap for mergin anarticle
15:01.01Technobliteratordespite it clearly being stated he does not own what he submits here
15:01.52AdmiralPandaright
15:02.11Technobliteratorjust a self entitled asshole, basically
15:06.38Hachiman"The scientists were celebrating their first successful prolonged cryostasis demonstration. She had no way to tell them that she was still conscious."
15:07.05AdmiralPandaso basically I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream?
15:07.30HachimanPretty much
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15:10.36CyrannianHello!
15:10.39Technobliteratorhii
15:13.40Vincent20100Hey Cyra
15:25.23CyrannianSmelly person
15:27.13CyrannianRecent comment on my Republic Walker: "Oh very very nice :) and i reading your fiction on wiki :) borealis grox is your creation?" It appears you have fans
15:37.13Vincent20100Well, it's true the AT-AT looks very good
15:38.49Vincent20100https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=841096422588011&set=p.841096422588011&type=1&theater
15:41.07Angrybirdstest
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15:46.03MrKyuremHi
15:46.21Monethi
15:49.22Vincent20100HEy dudes!
15:54.22Technobliterator"What is your favorite final fantasy game? im just curious as to if anyone thinks 12 is the best as i do. Munchvtec (talk) 12:59, October 7, 2014 (UTC)"
15:54.22Technobliteratorwat
15:55.27Monet12 was okay
15:55.50MonetAt least he didn't say 13
15:56.04Technobliterator12 was amazing, but phrasing a question like that is what made me "wat"
15:56.10Technobliteratorseemed like the most random thing
16:05.13Vincent20100FInally!
16:05.38Vincent20100In my ingame spore empire, I have finally removed the last remanant empires of MY! glactic arms
16:06.26Vincent20100Next step, expulsing those freaking Grox...
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16:07.53Vincent20100I wounder, if you completly eradicate the Grox from your galaxy, does your allies still get randomly attacked by Grox fleet?
16:11.59MrKyuremI think so
16:20.26Technobliteratorthis Emmette guy's attitude is ridiculous
16:22.01Vincent20100Tech: I'm not sure to fully understand what is going on... :(
16:22.43MonetSeems like he's trying to quote legislation
16:22.51MonetTo get credit for a ocntribution
16:22.52Technobliteratorexcept he's wrong.
16:23.15Technobliteratorand now he's just willfully being disruptive, I'm going to have to assume bad faith if he carries on
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16:49.17MonetbONJOUR
16:49.22Monetsorry for caps
16:49.36XhoExclaiming frenchman
16:52.43Vincent20100Tu parles francais Monet?
16:52.56Vincent20100Ne me dis pas que tu es aussi une baguette quand même. ^^
16:53.08Vincent20100On a bien assé de Angry comme ca...
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16:53.40MrKyurem_internet deded
16:54.12XhoFrench
16:54.14Xhono me get it
16:54.26MonetJ'me parlais petit Francais.
16:54.51Vincent20100Chu pas Francais
16:55.05Vincent20100Chu "canadéins"
16:55.16HachimanUgh stop please
16:55.24MonetI only said bonjour
16:56.40Vincent20100Le plus tant beau pays du monde...
16:57.06MonetThen Suddenly VIncent asked if I spoke french then something about also not having a baguette.
16:57.19Vincent20100-_-
16:57.20MonetAnd I think noted AB also speaks French.
16:57.28Vincent20100No...
16:57.37MonetI did say I only know a little french.
16:57.58Vincent20100I said "Don't tell me you are a Baguette too... We have enough of AB already. ^^"
16:58.01Monetwell, speak a little french
16:58.36MonetNo I happen to be a scone.
16:58.45Vincent20100Scone? o_O
16:59.00Vincent20100[12:54] <Monet> J'me parlais petit Francais.
16:59.05Vincent20100^You know what this means?
16:59.17Monet"I speak a little French?"
16:59.24Vincent20100It means "I was talking to my self, little french".
16:59.53Vincent20100I speak a little french would rather be Je parle un peu francais
16:59.54MonetSee this is how little I speak it
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17:00.30HachimanConsidering this is an English channel I don't think it matters much
17:00.49XhoHasta que hablarámos de BURRITOS Y TACOS JAJAJAJAJAJAJA
17:01.47HachimanXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Rqdgna3Yw
17:02.28MonetAlthough I think calling a Frenchman a baguette is probably not best said -in- the company of a Frenchman
17:02.28XhoThis is the exact music that plays in Nu's head when he's joyriding
17:03.13Vincent20100Monet: well, it's not very offensice
17:03.30Vincent20100It's not the nicest thing either, but it isn't "that" bad.
17:03.53Angrybirds_test
17:04.09MonetI can't answer whether or not a Frenchman would find it offensive.
17:04.20Vincent20100Hachi: There is no evil is speaking another language for a minute or too, as long it isn't the majority of the time
17:04.35Vincent20100Well, I'm a "baguette" and I don't consider it offensive
17:04.38Angrybirds_Drom Monet: Depends on the Frenchman. I personally find nothing offensive, it's just plain annoying.
17:05.11XhoA bit like how us Indians apparently have grenades under our turbans
17:05.14XhoWell
17:05.18XhoYou know what I mean
17:05.29Angrybirds_But someone with actual sensibilities might find it offensive that you would reduce all of French culture, history, the entire French identity to a piece of bread.
17:05.31HachimanImplying you wear a turban
17:06.04XhoYou've seen pictures of me, of course I don't wear a turban
17:06.29MonetWhen i hear it I picture that stereotype of a Frenchman with a balck-and-white striped shirt ,a beret and holding a baguette.
17:06.33CyrannianYou looked unhappy and you had a cake.
17:06.58XhoI'm always unhappy and cake-bearing
17:07.22Vincent20100Well, I don't think we should base the conotation of a word based on too sensible people, honestly.
17:08.09Vincent20100And after all, Baguette isn't like "fatties" or "dumbs"
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17:10.34MonetTypes in "French" into Google -> Sixth image along http://zigzageducation.co.uk/synopses/images/french%20flag.gif
17:11.06Imperiosdat moustache
17:11.36ImperiosI tried to google "Russian"
17:11.38MonetI used to see a good number of French while in Canterbury. Neither had facial hair or a beret.
17:11.41Imperioshttp://www.rbrides.com/russian-brides-journal/images/dating-russian-brides.jpg First image I got
17:11.41Vincent20100Well, I typed "american" and fall onthis almost straight away
17:11.42Vincent20100http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140314210839/degrassi/images/e/e9/American-beauty_784x0.jpg
17:11.50Imperioshuh
17:11.51Cyrannianhttp://www.bonningtons.com.au/web/product/irish-moss/resource/img/graphic-irish-dude.png - Well it's better than mine.
17:11.53ImperiosOur women are prettier
17:12.00Vincent20100^^
17:12.05HachimanBut
17:12.06Vincent20100So true Imper, so true...
17:12.11HachimanFrance doesn't remove kebab
17:13.07Angrybirds_Monet: I have a goatee. :P
17:13.34ImperiosThat's brecause France is quite kebab itself now
17:13.36MonetTypes in "British" -> First picture that isn't just the Union Jack or includes the QUeen http://eatmorecake.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/239287994_6f9062f467_o.jpg
17:13.56HachimanPretty much sums up England
17:14.05XhoPregnant teenager however is a pride of Britain thing
17:14.17Imperioshttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130201185657/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/c/ca/JaeJoong-Hairstyle-Korean.jpg I typed in "Korean"
17:14.21Monethttp://static.tumblr.com/e6280085b3b549fdb68173cbfa954f3f/06rkvgd/XJQmhegql/tumblr_static_tumblr_mgmidexyjh1qggdn7o1_r3_500.gif further down I found this
17:14.23CyrannianThat child looks like its being devoured by its pram.
17:14.30ImperiosSo apparently we are androgynous hur
17:15.25MonetTyping in "english" only gives me a pageful of the word "English"
17:16.07Imperioshttp://www.kyivpost.com/media/images/2013/12/02/p18apgloaj107f137c1lc61kut1bgn4/original.jpg "Ukrainian"
17:16.12ImperiosWarning, slightly NSFW
17:16.26MonetHOWEVER, before that teen mum picture is this! http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/23/1332502549650/British-Design-at-VA---Go-007.jpg
17:16.43Angrybirds_test
17:16.52XhoUkrainians and their lack of endowments
17:16.56MonetLong Live The Sex Pistols!
17:17.14HachimanWhat the fuck are they doing to those pictures
17:17.30XhoAbout to shit on them by the looks of it
17:17.37ImperiosThat's why they like pigs
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17:19.00TekDroidHello
17:19.59MonetI'm not 100% sure who that bloke their shitting on is but I'm guessing he's some controversial nationalist.
17:20.46ImperiosThat's Yanukovich if my memory is not mistaken
17:20.47MonetSInce one of them painted "Ukrain to EU" o ntheir torso
17:21.30ImperiosActually, no
17:21.38Imperios...That's Poroshenko, the current Ukrainian presdient
17:22.58MonetI see Britain as a country of two halves right now. One half its a depressing shithole populated by chavs and teen mums. The other half is a nation of scientific, economic and media champions.
17:23.15ImperiosWait
17:23.27ImperiosThat's a funny way to write "Russia"
17:24.12MonetI'm told there's a lot of American media outsourcing to the UK.
17:24.26XhoImperios : oof
17:24.58Angrybirds_test
17:25.00MonetHollywood and all that are slowly coming here.
17:25.56MonetPlus since the 19th century Britain has always been a scientific powerhouse. It might be competing with the US a lot these days but our contributions are noticeable
17:27.01MonetEconomically we're selling all kinds t othe US, the Middle East and China.
17:27.30MonetThe US Military iirc uses British-built Harrier jets, right?
17:28.41MonetAnd while the original SA80 may have been fiddly and unreliable, I keep finding forum-goers online who claim to have used both the M16 and SA80-A2 and prefer the A2 for its reliability
17:30.31TekDroidAngrybirds: pass
17:30.42TekDroid*Angrybirds_
17:31.40TekDroidbrb
17:32.28MonetPerhaps I could sum it up this way: To the inside, the country is a tip. To the outside, we've still got it.
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17:34.06TekDroidBack
17:37.02CyrannianI have returned from my undeclared absence.
17:44.00Vincent20100Wb
17:47.27Vincent20100I have something to show you guys, just a sec, gotta find it
17:49.10Vincent20100http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141007174828/spore/images/3/38/Sh%27eravik_Pictures.png
17:49.42CyrannianIt looks great!
17:49.49MonetWoah...
17:50.19Vincent20100Thanks ^^
17:50.24MonetThat a vessel design? A monster?
17:50.41Vincent20100It is suppose to be a "living vessel" like Leviathans in Star Craft
17:50.52Vincent20100But I came with that
17:51.11MonetI get the type of ship you mean
17:51.30MonetLooks really scary up front, and the wings certainly add to the imposing profile.
17:53.47ImperiosVincent20100: It looks adorably evil for some reason
17:54.02Vincent20100^^
17:55.26Vincent20100But seriously, somebody someday will have to explain me why you can't paint in pure black in vanilla spore...
17:57.59Cyrannianhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/v/t1.0-9/1393606_645803635459933_2118413358_n.jpg?oh=626364f47cf2d275f6d01398c78f582a&oe=54C14EE2&__gda__=1421410224_a7c831fbeae5cc7728612ad5d6d95ecd - My favourite episode ever.
17:59.05Vincent20100Da fuck?!
17:59.07TekDroidO.o
17:59.17MonetI don't know who any of those people are
17:59.39TekDroidThat's TLC for you...
18:00.17MrKyurem_...welll
18:01.09Monet" Initially focused on educational & learning content, by 2001, the network began to primarily focus towards reality-style series involving lifestyles, family life and personal stories." > is there no room in this world for channels like BBC4?
18:01.16Vincent20100gotta go guys
18:01.20Vincent20100see you later
18:01.25MonetSo long
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18:02.28TekDroidHello
18:02.29Wormy_Hello
18:02.58Wormy_That scratches an itch
18:04.57MonetSo there exists a program called "my big fat American Gyspy wedding". Call me unenlightened but until now I didnt' realise there were ROmani peoples living in the US.
18:05.16Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Romany_USC2000_PHS.svg/959px-Romany_USC2000_PHS.svg.png then i saw this map on wikipedia
18:05.49TekDroidSo there's basically an entire state of them?
18:07.24MonetAccording ti wikipedia (so don't quote me) there are only about a million of them
18:12.05MonetSo I guess MBFAGW may come across as one of these esoteric culture shows (i'm guessing) wheras in the UK it's yet another reality TV serial
18:14.11MonetAlso I find it funny how the British version of 10 Years Younger is about economic, simple and manageable ways to look younger than you are, while the US version goes for the full plastic surgery package.
18:15.28MonetSo while the UK version uses beauty tricks for the common woman, the American version is a money-no-object show. WHich I guess could potentialyl reflect the attitudes of their respective media cultures.
18:17.41ImperiosMonet: Aren't they kinda everywhere?
18:17.47Imperios...That sounded racist didn't it
18:18.07MonetImperios: In European countries I thought they were.
18:18.25MonetThe UK and Eastern European countries have a substantial Romani population.
18:18.32Cyrannianhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/v/t1.0-9/600407_530615923645372_217197242_n.jpg?oh=1426a77ba223cab22ac3900120df12e2&oe=54C36F2A&__gda__=1422603979_a944de362cb1ce7b27230f9912b0bae9
18:20.07MonetSeems they're everywhere in Europe, but are hardly known about in the US.
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18:21.05MonetApparently to the point where "gypsy" in common Americna parlance is not an ethnic group, but a career umbrella that includes mediums and fortune telling.
18:21.41Monetbrb
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19:56.56MonetIts been quiet today
19:57.02TekDroid"Hawaiian Hawaiian Islands" Victoria 2's namimg system isn't perfect. XD
19:57.22TekDroidIt has
19:58.19drom*after watching Downfall parodies* I need a respirator.
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20:06.42MonetYoutube: Where dignitiy gets strung up..
20:06.45MonetHi
20:06.48CatfaceHello.
20:09.33Catfaceoffers Cyrannian a taste of the fish
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20:12.42CyrannianAnd hello
20:13.04dromhey
20:16.30Cyrannianhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141007201611/spore/images/b/bd/XWing.png - I made an X-Wing
20:17.09MrKyuremcool!
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20:25.38MonetI risk labelling myself a sceptic here but. Could mining the intergalactic rift possibly be a bit overstated?
20:25.59MonetThere's stuff there I know, but compared to galaxies there's not very much stuff.
20:26.09MonetOver millions of square light years
20:26.20Wormy_Whats this?
20:26.40MonetI'm just wondering about the recent enthusiasm for mining operations i nthe intergalactic medium
20:27.24CatfaceMonet: Maybe it could be, like, remains of other stuff...Iunno...something.
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20:28.04Wormy_You'd need giant bussard ramjets, and a fusion reactor
20:28.18Wormy_If its hydrogen gas being collected
20:28.33Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni0VlWPQadQ&feature=youtu.be I got bored again so I made this
20:28.47XhoWhat I basically had in mind for that track is whatever anyone hears when Caligaduro is present
20:29.00Monet_Wouldn't hydrogen be sparser in the intergalactic medium than in galactic space?
20:29.53Wormy_But David Deutsch said there is enough in a cubic light year to build a space station (using fusion reactor to transmutate elements) and build a space station for scientists.  Resources are plentiful, but knowledge is scarce
20:30.21Wormy_Though that isn't relevant, I find that interesting
20:30.27Monet_The visualisation I have of mining ops in the IG void is panning for gold in a river miles from civilisation when there's a big gold vein that is much closer.
20:30.36Wormy_Of course
20:31.23Monet_Although maybe this could be a plot point? Not every exploratve venture has to be a roaring success.
20:31.27Wormy_These intergalactic rifts would have to contain an exotic material that is not only extractable but also economically viable
20:31.54CatfaceXho: Sounds like someone with sleep apnea.
20:32.08Xhohur
20:33.25Monet_Galaxies are large. Thing is, the gap between Andromeda (the *closest* proper galaxy to ours) and the MW is 2.5 *million* light years.
20:33.51Monet_That is a hell of a lot of ground to cover.
20:34.40Monet_Its about 25x the diameter of the milky way with perhaps 1000th of the star density.
20:34.46Wormy_Monet_  Technically, any resource in which one is confident of and yet is viable (easy) to extract can be economical http://www.endomines.com/images/jorcresourcesandreserves.jpg
20:35.23Wormy_If the resource doesn't uccur much in galaxies it might well be "mined"
20:37.27Monet_Woudln't travelling to and from the void count towards the material's viability?
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20:37.49Monet_or count against, whichever way round is negative
20:37.50Monet_Hi
20:38.22Wormy_Well
20:39.07Wormy_I don't think it should be too difficult
20:39.28Wormy_Soon it will be possible to extract Rare Earth elements from asteroids
20:39.57Monet_Its the distance that concerns me
20:40.06Wormy_And the abundance of such elements in the Crust is comparatively scarce
20:41.13Wormy_Again, if its just hydrogen gas we are talking about, then yeah, using intergalactic space as a resource is a silly idea.
20:42.11GhelaeYes, intergalactic space is practically empty, economically speaking.
20:42.31GhelaeThe "intergalactic rifts" containing useful material are just SporeWiki fiction.
20:42.37Wormy_The degree of resource confidence would be low given its poor measure
20:43.35Monet_So we have two options: One is a we add a super-rare wooden-needle-in-a-field compound that makes the whole thing viable, or we stick to simpler elements like oxygen and hydrogen making up the medium and perhaps make it open to exploring when an exonomic venture doesn't go all hunky-dory.
20:43.39Wormy_There are minerals reserves in the Earth's crust which are simply unviable to extract
20:44.21Wormy_Maybe it has a negative energy that is repelled from galaxies?
20:44.44GhelaeIf we don't have the equivalence principle, sure.
20:44.46Wormy_Of course, it would have to be strong enough to escape the positive gravitational force
20:45.13GhelaeIf it's attracted by gravitational fields, what repels it?
20:45.34Wormy_Could it be self-interacting?  Thus repelling itself?
20:45.42Wormy_Or is that nonsense
20:45.59Wormy_I've heard of self-interactions mentioned in particle physics
20:46.19GhelaeLike electrical charges repel each other, but that doesn't cause them to disperse into intergalactic space.
20:46.30Monet_I've tried indicating before that modern science has gone past the age-old exploration philosophy of "best way to explore viably is to go there" that sci-fi like Star Trek was built on.
20:47.01GhelaeOf course, that's partly because there are opposite charges too. But the principle still applies that it shouldn't make the matter more dense outside of galaxies.
20:47.09Wormy_The best way to colonise space is to use self-replicating machines to do the work for you
20:47.45Monet_So sending manned ships or even probes controlled fro mhome to explore the IG medium is perhaps an outdated way of working.
20:48.21Monet_For one here on Earth we're estimating the makeup and atmospheric environment of planets tens of light-years away.
20:48.32Monet_WIthout building a super-fancy warp capable starship
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20:48.52CatfaceHachiman: Fucking furries http://i.imgur.com/NP4LT8i.jpg
20:49.14dromHow I imagine allies-neutral relations. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9s93pvkaM1r01g4g.jpg
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20:49.43dromHey
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20:50.51dromGuten tag
20:51.17Monet_Star Trek may have popularised the idea of exploring space, but that doesn't mean we have to forever follow Star Trek's method. As Wormy suggested ,what about Von Neumann probes?
20:51.47Monet_OKay more accurately Apollo 11 popularised the idea
20:52.16GhelaeProbes make more sense for exploration. They're less fragile than humans.
20:53.09Monet_But Star Trek was a big help in this idea of exploring space in a purpose-designed vessel full of crew. Probably because several high-ups liked the idea of a drama series set in deep space.
20:53.19CatfaceGhelae: But less fun! I mean, do probes cry and beg for mercy when you threaten to skin them alive?
20:53.41GhelaeCatface: No, which is why TV series tend to be about crewed spaceships instead of probes.
20:54.05Monet_Half the Redshirts in Star Trek died without really uttering anything
20:54.22Monet_Well except maybe a grunt
20:54.22CatfaceI'd make them utter.
20:54.31CatfaceLike that metal 'male cow'.
20:54.51dromProbes are automations too, automations do lack intellectual senses and capacities as what humans and other sentients do.
20:55.08TekDroidNot necessarily
20:55.30Monet_drom: I say it depends on the intelligence inside
20:55.45CatfaceBasically what it comes down to is probes are less fun to tell stories with.
20:55.51Monet_One could easily fit an AI or swarm intelligence inside.
20:56.20Monet_Catface: Its still possible, maybe by focusing more on what the probe finds and how local aliens interact with it?
20:57.14Monet_For a long time TV and film used humans or humanlikes as the main cast so the audience could relate and metaphorically insert themselves withi nthe setting.
20:57.25CatfaceMonet_: Good point.
20:58.32Monet_Its one of the possible reasons why SUperman was so generic: So kids in the 30s and 40s could imagine themselves growing up to be him (if I recall, originally he wasn't an alien, or had much backstory apart from being a homegrown kid)
20:59.05Monet_Metropolis could have been any major city that the reader happened to live in or want to live in.
20:59.12XhoMurica powers
20:59.14XhoNow ded
20:59.24XhoActually no, no  ded
20:59.58CatfacePersonally I do prefer manned exploration missions. Though, I don't see any reason why you couldn't combine the two. Like...have the probes go on first and then send a manned expedition to servery the areas closer.
21:00.22Monet_So like how Mars has been explored?
21:00.26CatfaceMonet_: Comic books were an escape for kids during the great depression.
21:00.29CatfaceYeah.
21:01.00Monet_Sending probes up is 1/100th of the price of sending a person up
21:01.02GhelaeAlso, sending humans into space is still useful (although not actually necessary) for colonisation. If they colonise a habitable planet, they could explore it in the old-fashioned way (or any number of ways) then.
21:01.37Wormy_Humans DO need to colonise space, I'm certainly not denying it.  But Von Nuemann machines would be very useful tool
21:01.46Monet_I'm not saying we completely ditch the idea of manned exploration. I was merely pointing out that these days its not the only way to explore.
21:02.17Wormy_Its possible too, that such machines could contain human minds...
21:02.21Monet_Back in the Star Trek era, they didn't have stuff like Gravity Probe B, Kepler or Hubble.
21:02.26GhelaeIf you don't send humans for colonisation, you'll probably still either grow them from scratch or download personalities into replicated bodies. They can still explore the planet later, but it'll probably take longer before they're able to.
21:02.41Wormy_If the consensus about Strong Ai is correct.
21:03.07GhelaeWormy_: Of course, the logical conclusion of this is human (or human-like) consciousnesses inside utility fog-like clouds.
21:03.27Monet_Sending out a manned spaceship, in the wake of the Apollo Program, made a lot of sense to viewers at the time even if it used space magic to travel light years in minutes.
21:03.51Wormy_I want to be be turned into one
21:04.09GhelaeAlthough as far as stories are concerned, this takes away some of the drama, in that even if all of the foglets are destroyed, the explorer will probably still survive in some form (like a central processing unit somewhere safe).
21:04.21Monet_This may sound a bit goofy  but the original Enterprise DID indicate we'd still have cathode ray screens by the 2200s.
21:04.56Wormy_Science fiction writers will just have to find new plots
21:05.03Monet_Even though the ISS is decked out with flatscreens.
21:05.30Wormy_Maybe we could find a way to damatise floglet men
21:05.38Wormy_foglet men
21:06.54CatfaceWormy_: Space is explored by large swarms of nanites with hyperspace capabilities.
21:08.00Monet_I think this goof can be boiled down to the scope of vision and cultural perceptions at the time - something that will always be the case with authors: Automatic doors, antimatter and faster-than-light travel were amazing must-have ideas. But Flatscreens? A wireless PC (with screen) the size of your palm? Back the nthat was -really- pie-in-the-sky.
21:08.37Wormy_Catface:  Of course, the aliens are all around us
21:09.33HachimanThe Nostramo in the original Alien movie had a lot of 70s/80s aspects to it
21:09.44HachimanLike the computer screens, floppy discs, etc
21:09.46Monet_I recall that in 1893, U.S. Postmaster General John Wanamaker predicted that mail would still be delivered by stagecoach.
21:10.05Monet_Hachiman: Those two things being largely extinct in the modern office
21:10.05HachimanCoffee makers and stuff rather than replication technology
21:10.20GhelaeI'm going to go now. Bye!
21:10.22Wormy_Actually its like the Fermi Paradox, all it takes is one species to create von numenann machines that eventually spread close to the speed of light, and the galaxy should have been swamped millions even billions of years ago
21:10.25Monet_Well, the computer screens at the time, which only had green text
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21:11.00XhoIs it me or is Oluap being moody again
21:11.13Monet_Wanamaker's statement howeve,r neglected the thought of vehicles going fown roads and not being powered by horses.
21:11.30HachimanHe's not had a good day
21:11.39Xhoexplain dis shi
21:12.02HachimanHis manager was on break and his colleague went off sick so he's had to deal with answering phones all day and a load of computers he doesn't know what to do with because he doesn't know what's wrong with them
21:12.15CatfaceI just go with what makes the best story. *shrugs*
21:12.30XhoRight
21:12.33HachimanSo he's been alone all day and if anything went wrong in the office it would most likely be pinned on him
21:12.38CatfaceOf course, that doesn't mean you should throw logic/sense out the window.
21:13.20HachimanAnd now he's gotta go do college
21:13.56Monet_Which circles back to my concern earlier: Exploring the intergalactic medium for viable resources without considering the logistical and distance issues.
21:14.07Monet_Or if you would find anything of value
21:14.31Monet_that couldn't easily be found in a galaxy
21:15.27CatfaceMonet_: Governments could always use criminals to explore those areas as, like, a pardon or something.
21:15.46Monet_I recall that's what the UED tried in StarCraft.
21:16.36Monet_Unfortunately those exploration ships got lost and over 500 years the colonists spread out amongs the Koprulu sector without any word form Earth.
21:16.51CatfaceI don't know anything about Starcraft lore.
21:16.58Monet_And fought the UED when they arrived,
21:17.07Monet_UED = United Earth Directorate
21:17.13CatfaceStill, it could make for interesting stories.
21:17.14Catfacek
21:17.47Monet_Ehh convict labour I guess it depends on the culture
21:18.13CatfaceULE would do it.
21:18.29CatfaceThey work their criminals until they die.
21:18.46Monet_England isn't a country that uses penal labour so I don't know much of the nuances of it.
21:19.16Monet_Like the feelings of the working convicts or how likely they are to escape
21:19.24Catfacelolpenal
21:21.02TekDroidWell you guys did have a penal continent. :P
21:21.23CatfaceMore like a penile continent.
21:21.28Monet_Yeah but Austrailia was more of a case of getting rid of the "undesireables".
21:21.34Catfacedoesn't know what he is getting at.
21:22.02CatfaceThat's kind of the case with the ULE and  penal labor.
21:22.13CatfaceAnd stuff.
21:22.58Monet_But penal labour in England and Wales was abolished in 1948
21:23.53CatfaceIt was abolished in the US in 1927. Of course, the private prison system is working around the laws.
21:23.56CatfaceAnyways.
21:24.14CatfaceI wish that I had time to write about the ULE slave culture.
21:24.18Monet_Yeah here in England passing an act of penal laabour is impossible.
21:25.10Monet_No prblic system, no private workaround. England simply does not force its criminals to work anymore.
21:25.45CatfaceDo you think they should?
21:25.51CatfaceWithin reason, of course.
21:26.15Monet_I prefer erhabilitation. Its slave labour of registered citizens otherwise.
21:26.20Monet_rehabilitation*
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21:26.54Monet_They may be locked up for breaking the law but they were taxpaying citizens when they went in.
21:27.02Monet_Most of them
21:27.18CatfaceWhat if it was part of rehabilitation? Like, work training or something.
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21:31.02Monet_Depends on the job I guess
21:34.25Wormy_I should be able to do fiction Thursday to Sunday in the evenings now, I can go back home
21:34.37Monet_Hooray
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21:35.39Wormy_Catface:  I've been on my own for well over a week with a demon haunting my dreams and then spilling into real life
21:35.45Wormy_test
21:38.38TekDroidO.o
21:41.58TekDroid...CNN considers the North Korean guy being missing for a month a "developing story"
21:43.42Wormy_Is it me or do I find selfies an irrating fad
21:43.59TekDroidYou're not alone.
21:44.15Wormy_I like it when in le Tour de France, one rider punched some idiot who was standing out on the road
21:44.28Wormy_taking a selfish selfie
21:44.52Wormy_Now I saw some news featuring a selfie
21:45.16Knight_AlienSelfies are stupid I believe.
21:45.30Wormy_To be fair, it was a selfie of a Peregrine Falcon but it certainly didn't mean to take it
21:47.49Wormy_You know sometimes I feel a bit behind techwise.  I only use my phone as a phone, despite its smart features (and its old anyway by some years), I really don't care for smart phones or the latest gaming shitbox
21:48.20Wormy_And many of these social networking fads really don't interest me
21:48.28Wormy_Nor does facebook interest me much
21:49.18Knight_AlienIt is a follow the leader thing and it is stupid.
21:49.24Wormy_yeah
21:49.53Knight_AlienAnd if you don't join your a Outcast and seen as weird.
21:49.59Wormy_I'm certainly a geek for new technology, but for me, it has to be actually cool.
21:50.10Wormy_or new
21:51.35Wormy_I bet many of these people wanting flexiphones or whatever don't read up on the developments of quantum computing
21:52.01Knight_AlienI bet they don't even know what that is.
21:59.31CyrannianI took a copious amount of selfies next to many, many London landmarks.
22:00.03Liquid_InkI took no selfies when I was in London.
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22:01.05CyrannianI took a selfie right next to where Anne Boleyn was beheaded. yay
22:01.45CyrannianAnd by right beside, I mean outside the Tower of London because the crowd was obscenely large.
22:05.16Cyrannianhttp://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/astounding-video-of-volcano-shock-wave - wow
22:09.49CatfaceCyrannian Xho: I just had to deadlift a refrigerator onto a truck for some customers while two people my age watched,
22:13.29CyrannianWell that was rude
22:38.50Wormy_Monet_  I just got the book for this its fascinating and beautiful V
22:38.53Wormy_http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/
22:40.59Monet_WOw. There's a lot here
22:47.48Wormy_300 billion to lift 1 billion out of poverty
22:48.37Wormy_Sounds like a lot until its in comprison
22:53.18Wormy_Monet:  I lolled the second time http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/who-runs-the-world/ http://infobeautiful2.s3.amazonaws.com/who_runs_the_world_2.png
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22:53.43DrodoEmpireHey, everyone/
22:54.42Wormy_hi
22:57.03Monet_Wormy_: The UN seems ot have less and less influence these days
22:57.53Wormy_indeed
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23:00.17The_RandomnessHello everyone
23:00.40Knight_AlienHi
23:02.00Wormy_Random:  Roll over it http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/who-runs-the-world/
23:02.34The_RandomnessHeh
23:03.22The_RandomnessDidn't know Satan was all the way up there with the reptilian overlords
23:04.14Wormy_lol
23:04.35The_RandomnessIn other news, I got a new monitor!
23:04.43Wormy_well done
23:05.02The_RandomnessWent all the way from a 1280x1024 monitor to 2560x1440
23:05.36The_RandomnessSo now I can play Minecraft, and keep tabs on IRC and stuff at the same time
23:06.06The_RandomnessWithout having to constantly minimize windows or deal with awkward window arrangement
23:06.42The_RandomnessUnfortunately this does mean that you guys will probably see a bit more of me on here.
23:07.43Wormy_takes a sledgehammer to Random's new monitor
23:08.34Wormy_git bak on dat ipod
23:08.45The_Randomness:p
23:16.57Wormy_I like this music http://youtu.be/Qus01tIocdQ?t=5m19s
23:17.51Tek0516~test
23:17.51infobottest is, like, not funny
23:21.33The_RandomnessWormy_: Wrong link? Unless the music is a little bit later on in the video...
23:21.43Wormy_Latter
23:21.53Wormy_The music plays as she compares skulls
23:22.03Wormy_I often like documentary music :P
23:22.10The_RandomnessAh
23:29.54*** join/#sporewiki TekDroid (~TekDroid@134.117.249.72)
23:36.55DrodoEmpiretest
23:39.22The_RandomnessI'm out, bye guys
23:45.50TekDroidSo Steam now displays prices in Canadian dollars for me...
23:46.36TekDroidOr in other words the price of everything on Steam just went up 10%. -.-
23:48.34TekDroidReady to get screwed over, DrodoEmpire?
23:50.50TekDroid~test
23:50.50infoboti guess test is not funny
23:54.03DrodoEmpirelol

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