IRC log for #sporewiki on 20141001

00:11.42Monethttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001001114/spore/images/3/37/DI_Marine_5.png new Talon Marine armour
00:12.00DrodoEmpire_Ooh, nice
00:12.03Knight_AlienLooks good.
00:12.05DrodoEmpire_I like the colour scheme
00:12.59CyrannianGoodnight!
00:13.58DrodoEmpire_Meanwhile, in the Drodo Colonies... - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/FrenchTrenchWWI--nsillustratedwar03londuoft.jpeg
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00:15.13Wormy_Monet:  Someone with Ebola was found in the US, but 5 days latent
00:15.30DrodoEmpire_Yeah, I heard too.
00:15.40DrodoEmpire_Big deal. :P Not the end of the world.
00:15.54DrodoEmpire_Ebola has quite an incubation period
00:17.01DrodoEmpire_The way I see it, the best measures that can be taken at the time are ebola screenings for people coming from the effected countries, if not an outright denial of entry.
00:17.04Wormy_Its not "Big deal", if the West doesn't step up helping West Africa, the disease will become endemic like malaria.  I don't know if it will become a global pandemic but endemic is bad enough
00:17.38Wormy_Because then some population will always have it, and the chance for it to spread is there
00:18.12Wormy_Look at Polio, thats actually on the rise, because the vaccine is so hard to get out to these countries
00:18.35DrodoEmpire_I know; I fully support its containment, I'm just saying that because I find a lot of people are in a panic about it and frankly I'm sick of hearing about it so much; Especially from alarmists who distort the facts.
00:19.05Wormy_Aye I don't think its the end of the world but I do worry about it becoming endemic
00:19.24DrodoEmpire_I do too; It could be a serious blow to Africa's already fragile growth
00:19.48Wormy_We have better healthcare in the West and quicker responses and more resources of course
00:20.22Wormy_You know what does worry me thogh?
00:20.27DrodoEmpire_What?
00:20.33Wormy_Extremists using it as a bioweapon.
00:21.06DrodoEmpire_How? Take paintbrushes and start brushing people with ebola-infected fluids? :P
00:21.18Wormy_A month or so ago I saw on the news how easy it was for locals in a village to grav 12 victims, and their blood-covered mattrases
00:21.21DrodoEmpire_Its a serious and scary idea but I don't know how it'd be delivered.
00:21.43DrodoEmpire_Perhaps with infected items, yeah
00:21.44Wormy_They sold the clothes and bedding mattres's
00:21.48Wormy_THats right
00:21.50DrodoEmpire_Should have thought of that. >.<
00:21.55MonetCan it be controlled though?
00:22.00DrodoEmpire_Very easily.
00:22.02DrodoEmpire_:P
00:22.08Wormy_Bioweapon would be very stupid for exctremists to use
00:22.17Wormy_since it kicks back
00:22.31DrodoEmpire_Its bad at spreading and its only been because the effected countries have little to no useable infrastructure.
00:22.48Wormy_That, or ebola might reach the current warzones where there are mass movements of people.  Thats another issue
00:22.55DrodoEmpire_^
00:23.59Wormy_Hopefully next time a potential epidemic or endemic disease becomes apparent, wwe can respond more quickly
00:24.32DrodoEmpire_Ebola is a very stoppable disease even with the most basic quarantine tactics; Developed in the middle ages. The only issue is that these countries are so crippled in every conceivable way, and so cannot even levy these basic defenses against the virus.
00:24.51DrodoEmpire_(Mostly for Monet's benefit. :P)
00:25.18Wormy_Monet:  Fluids also reduce the likelyhood of death
00:26.02DrodoEmpire_Its no bubonic plague, but its still a formidible disease considering what its up against; Extremely poor countries.
00:26.15MonetYeah.
00:27.16MonetI recall hearing that in early tests of a cure, patiens were flown to the UK and US and treated and there I recall no panic they would spread the disease
00:28.45DrodoEmpire_Yeah; Probably because they where surrounded by doctors and a mobile quarantine everywhere they went.
00:28.49DrodoEmpire_:P
00:28.56Wormy_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonic_plague
00:28.57MonetExactly
00:29.17Wormy_I heard entire towns would be cut off in China to prevent the spreadof that
00:29.28DrodoEmpire_Pneumonic plague?
00:30.00Wormy_And the Black Death they now think was caused by Pneumonic
00:30.05DrodoEmpire_Really?
00:30.08DrodoEmpire_Interestng.
00:30.13DrodoEmpire_*Interesting
00:30.45DazelWhat even is pneumonic plague?
00:31.02DrodoEmpire_A type of plague effecting the lungs
00:31.14DrodoEmpire_A wikipedia article was provided. :P
00:31.50DazelI know but I can't.  Actually.  Click it right now.
00:32.03DrodoEmpire_It, or the Bubonic plague where what caused the major outbreaks of the 1300's in europe; Killing up to half of europe's population
00:32.23Wormy_One or the other
00:32.43DrodoEmpire_Its spread is usually attributed to the silk road trade introducing foreign diseases like the plague
00:33.17DrodoEmpire_The actual group responsible for bringing it to europe where likely the Mongols where patrolled and practically owned the multiple trade routes that made up the silk road
00:33.24DrodoEmpire_*who patrolled
00:33.53Dazel>builds a giant wall to keep out mongols
00:33.57DrodoEmpire_hur
00:33.58Dazel>kills us with disease instead
00:34.09DrodoEmpire_>Go around it instead
00:34.15DrodoEmpire_^That actually happened
00:34.35DazelWell, I guess the Mongols were smarter than Dora, then.  Should've figured.
00:35.39DrodoEmpire_The Oirats (maybe the Manchurians?) just found a tiny gap in the network's defenses; Guarded by some a dozen soldiers and blitzed their army through it, sacking and invading Beijing.
00:43.39Tybusen"GODDAMN MONGORIANS, STOP TEARING DOWN MY SHITTY WARR"
00:43.42AngrybirdsA cool fiction image I was just working on:  www.i.imgur.com/RThdx9C.jpg :D
00:44.28Wormy_Nice job
00:45.15MonetFor whoever's on the recieving end of what's coming, I don't envy them.
00:45.45Angrybirds^
00:47.27Wormy_Goa'uld System Lord - I wouldn't mind commanding those
00:47.59TybusenI like how the main refrain of the French anthem talks about how they're going to irrigate their fields with the enemy's blood
00:48.09OfficerJackalAngrybirds: Hey, have you been able to private message me? I may have accidentally set you to ignore on my IRC program.
00:49.13MonetTybusen: Despite the steryotype, France's anthem is basically "mess with us and the whole country fucks you into next month"
00:50.00TybusenSee, a lot of countries' anthems are about how glorious and great their motherland is
00:50.20TybusenFrance's is literally "get ready to get your shit wrecked good"
00:50.54MonetIts why I prefer Rule Britannia.
00:51.53MonetOver God save the QUeen
00:53.35TybusenI've personally thought that I Vow To Thee My Country would be a better anthem for Britain than God Save the Queen
00:54.54TybusenI wonder if SW France still kept La Marseillaise as their anthem between now and 2800
00:55.27MonetGod Save the King/Queen was written when northern England was getting buttraped by angry Jacobites.
00:56.04MonetIt's a confidence-booster, something to sing when the people are in dire straits.
00:56.24AngrybirdsSporewiki France probably has the same anthem. If there
00:56.36Angrybirds's one nation which doesn't like changes in symbology, it's France.
00:56.51AngrybirdsOr America.
00:57.51Angrybirdstest
00:58.36Knight_AlienMaybe both.
00:58.54TybusenI'd imagine POTATO changed its anthem though to accomodate Canada, Mexico, and the Philippines
01:00.04DrodoEmpire_"Oh... Uhhm, Uh, POTATO...? Our home- *homes* and native lands..."
01:01.21Monet"from sea to shining sea...and the other sea...and the other other shining sea"
01:01.35DrodoEmpire_olol
01:01.59Angrybirdslol
01:02.30Monet"Hey guys can we just use that Team AMerica song only replace every instance of "America" with POTATO?"
01:02.43DrodoEmpire_hur
01:07.40MonetI'm all for fancy chandaliers but this thing looks scary http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Ceremonial_hall_Dolmabahce_March_2008_pano4.jpg
01:07.59DrodoEmpire_Jeez
01:08.09DrodoEmpire_Lets hope its chain holds. :P
01:08.26MonetIt was a gift to the sultans from QUeen VIctoria
01:08.47DrodoEmpire_Hm. Interesting
01:09.00DrodoEmpire_Which sultans?
01:09.05DrodoEmpire_Ottoman Sultans?
01:09.13MonetYeah
01:09.16MonetNow that I think about it I sense a "Here's a made-in-Britain prezzie for you to remind you how great we are"
01:09.19DrodoEmpire_Ah
01:09.28DrodoEmpire_Basically
01:10.35MonetWHenever people call England a boring shithole, I just tihnk back to the days of the Empire.
01:10.55Wormy_Goodnight
01:11.09DrodoEmpire_Why? As in, remembering when it was even more boring or less?
01:11.11DrodoEmpire_:P
01:11.43DrodoEmpire_I'd personally think less; The 1800's where an interesting time, indeed.
01:11.47MonetRemembering how come our tiny island is in the UN security council for instance.
01:12.10DrodoEmpire_Right
01:12.51MonetAnd then there's all our exports, even the more questionable exports like military hardware. A legacy of the Empire's economic dominance over the world
01:13.21TybusenYou can't exactly put a Tornado fighter in an art museum
01:13.30DrodoEmpire_To be honest, sometimes I think back in history and really realise how unlikely some of its events where; For instance who could have possibly anticipated that one day, a strange, murky little grouping of islands off the coast of europe would come to dominate the world?
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01:14.31MonetDrodoEmpire: Its unlikely but its amazing
01:15.04Knight_AlienYes!!!!
01:15.09DrodoEmpire_Monet: Eh, I wouldn't say military hardware is "questionable" personally; Armies are legal and necessary for nations to have
01:15.12DrodoEmpire_And agreed
01:15.14Knight_AlienI have Finally Fixed Fallout 3!
01:16.08MonetDrodoEmpire: Yeah but a lot of people over here are questioning Britain's eithos of selling guns to the US and the middle-east
01:16.22DrodoEmpire_I see
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01:16.56Vincent20100Hey.
01:17.05Knight_AlienHi
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01:38.38Knight_AlienAnything new guys?
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01:43.23TekDroidHello
01:43.50Knight_Alienhi
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01:56.44Liquid_InkOoh, look at that handsome and sexy man there.
01:56.48Liquid_InkI must go.
01:56.52Vincent20100lol
01:57.05Vincent20100Thank you Ink, I'm sexy and I know it
01:57.22QGPlasma_InkHe was talking about me.
01:57.28QGPlasma_InkWhat a kind man Liquid is.
01:57.45Vincent20100Nah... I'm sure he was talking to me. ^.^
01:59.24QGPlasma_InkYou flatter yourself.
01:59.50QGPlasma_InkBecause that's totally not what I'm doing at all.
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02:06.14OfficerJackal_DrodoEmpire_: Late by two seconds loud and clear!
02:06.40DrodoEmpire_Felt like a lot more than two seconds. XD
02:09.01OfficerJackal_Two minutes*
02:09.02OfficerJackal_fuc
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02:09.32DrodoEmpireBack
02:10.21Vincent20100Hey Drodo
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02:18.18OfficerJackal~seen patriot
02:18.23infobotOfficerJackal: i haven't seen 'patriot'
02:18.34OfficerJackal~seen patriot 386
02:18.34infobotOfficerJackal: i haven't seen 'patriot 386'
02:18.43OfficerJackalAgh, what was his IRC name..
02:29.45Knight_Alienhmm...
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04:29.34TekDroid...I watched 11 episodes of BSG today.
04:29.45TekDroidO.O
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04:48.49Tek0516~test
04:48.49infobotextra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny
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08:27.28ImpyDroidHiya
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10:55.40GhelaeHello.
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11:39.09DazelHi.
11:39.57GhelaeHello.
11:41.45Knight_Alientest
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12:20.00HachimanHai
12:20.00GhelHello.
12:20.03HachimanGot my new glasses today
12:20.08HachimanEverything looks so weird
12:21.46OluapWorkerhai
12:21.59Liquid_InkHachiglasses
12:22.05Liquid_InkAre they amazingly stylish?
12:22.08OluapWorkerIt feels weird at first, but you'll get used to it shortly
12:22.23HachimanWell they're black with red trims
12:22.53Liquid_InkOh my.
12:23.33Liquid_InkPersonally, I think green is more your colour. Although that's probably because your nick is green.
12:23.44DazelIt's red for me.
12:23.45DazelSo right on.
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12:25.13GhelHello.
12:25.15HachimanI'd show a picture but doubt you'd be interested hur
12:25.20HachimanIt'd also be egotistical of me
12:25.21MonetHello
12:26.48Liquid_InkI'm perfectly interested.
12:27.39Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1924394_960413147339209_7795955770420576547_n.jpg?oh=1ccf6afc37872d18dc72688a006081fd&oe=54B39BEF&__gda__=1422923665_f96cb256a3437726d82982f3c4517907
12:28.11DazelWhat a badass headline.
12:28.21DazelWell, the first word of it, anywa.y
12:28.59Liquid_InkWhat does "eterjorate" mean?
12:30.18HachimanIt says "deteriorate" hur
12:34.58Liquid_InkI see.
12:35.11Liquid_InkI was sure that was a J
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13:09.28MonetHello
13:10.09Technobliteratorhii
13:10.17GhelHello.
13:16.17GhelDoes anybody have anything they'd like to change about the proposal of galaxy clusters I made here?: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189995#3  If not, I'll update the SporeWikiverse locations page with it (and if anyone disagrees later, it can be changed again).
13:17.20Technobliteratorindifferent, personally
13:18.16GhelThat's fine. I don't expect most people to have opinions on it. :P
13:18.17Dazel"Destroyed Cluster" sounds a little bit off.
13:18.29GhelIdeally, it should have a better name.
13:18.43GhelM81 Group is what I'd call it on the page, at least as a placeholder.
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13:18.56GhelHello.
13:19.58Technobliteratorwell I mostly have no opinion because I'm pretty detached from the fictionverse :o
13:21.31AdmiralPandawhat's the discussion about?
13:21.44OluapWorkerYou being ghey
13:21.46MonetThat arrangement looks good to me although I'd opt for a poll regarding the name of the Borealis-Mirus-Phradox cluster.
13:21.52GhelTo quote myself from shortly before you arrived:
13:21.55AdmiralPandaOluapWorker: Only for Hachi
13:21.56Ghel"Does anybody have anything they'd like to change about the proposal of galaxy clusters I made here?: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189995#3  If not, I'll update the SporeWikiverse locations page with it (and if anyone disagrees later, it can be changed again)."
13:22.21OluapWorkerEyes off my waifu fgt
13:22.22AdmiralPandaGhel: I don't have much of an opinion either
13:22.34MonetMy understanding of the cuyrrent name of the cluster is Cyrannian made a suggestion and everyone silently went with it.
13:23.43GhelIf people provide suggestions for cluster names, either for M81 or M94, I'll post a poll on the thread (unless people want a different way of voting).
13:24.31GhelBy a poll, I mean using <poll> tags, because that's the only thing I can think of at the moment.
13:24.33MonetI think Wormy would suggest people commenting on the forum which name they like
13:25.05AdmiralPandaanyway, I have successfully pulled off an H. P. Lovecraft in a D&D campaign
13:25.52OluapWorkerHm?
13:27.21AdmiralPandaHalloween one-off one of my friends asked me to run for his group, basically they rock up to a town, everything seems to be going just a bit too well for them, then they wake up in the morning to find the entire town ruined, but in such a way that suggests everything they did that night actually happened, leaving them utterly mindfucked, and scared shitless
13:27.44AdmiralPandawhen I say ruined, I mean several decades ruined
13:28.01OluapWorkerspoopy
13:28.24MonetMst have been one awesome night.
13:29.00AdmiralPandaI had a good time, I don't like those guys so I was quite happy to utterly terrify them
13:29.18AdmiralPandaI was only DMing as a favour to said friend
13:30.22AdmiralPandaand now I wait for the Russian to appear
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13:32.00GhelHello.
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13:32.09CyrannianHello there.
13:32.16OluapWorker~punch Cyrannian
13:32.17infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
13:32.18MonetHello
13:32.19DazelHi.
13:32.36Cyrannian~lick OluapWorker
13:32.36infobotACTION licks OluapWorker *SHLUUURRRRPPP*
13:32.39DazelWhat language is the infobot written in?
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13:33.10Technobliteratorpython
13:33.47DazelIs it a Supybot?
13:34.08Technobliterator?
13:34.16Technobliteratorit might be? idk
13:34.21Technobliteratorthere's alsp pyIRCbot
13:34.53CyrannianHai Vincent
13:39.11Vincent20100Hey guys!
13:41.38AdmiralPandaWorking on a pantheon for a D&D campaign, let me know if anyone wants to talk deities
13:41.54CyrannianNice updates to the APR page
13:42.57Vincent20100Thanks
13:43.12Vincent20100What udates?
13:44.24CyrannianThe new walker in particular, I might upload another battle image tomorrow which has a lot of APR walkers
13:44.41MonetWas about to say, pprobably the battle image
13:44.50Vincent20100Thanks :)
13:45.15Vincent20100The Apocalypses ands are suppose to be HEavy Battle Armour
13:46.24Vincent20100I also added the Dark Battle picture to the page, to show a walker in action
13:47.25Vincent20100But how did you do the Bisitar's walkers legs? o_O
13:48.45CyrannianI used one of the miscellaneous details in the vehicle editor rather than an actual leg part
13:49.38Vincent20100I see
14:06.30MonetI wonder about seeing about a High Dracid name for the ALcanti Imperial Palace.
14:07.32MonetName often have meaning after all
14:08.33MonetAlso the current name feels generic.
14:09.07AdmiralPandait almost certainly has one, the latter is most likely just the common name that non-posh people use
14:09.23AdmiralPandaeven if the High Dracid name basically means the same thing
14:10.54MonetIts built on a fortress that was at the foot of a volcano so yeah, it would have a name that means something other than other than "the royal home on Alcanti"
14:11.10MonetAnd said fortress is -ancient-
14:16.04Vincent20100[10:07] <Monet> Name often have meaning after all
14:16.09Vincent20100Most of the time they do. ^^
14:18.58Vincent20100How about...
14:19.25AdmiralPandahm, working on the mythological backdrop for this D&D world, one idea I had is that normally all mortals have a predetermined fate, but every so often the Fates (i.e. the deities that create fate) let a few people be born who don't have fates, just to fuck with the way the world works
14:20.18Vincent20100Marag-Canti
14:20.31Vincent20100Which could mean: Palace of Magma
14:20.34Vincent20100since it's a volcanoe
14:21.06MonetVincent20100: Possibly although for now let's stick to the translation. I can work out the Dracid name from there.
14:21.24AdmiralPandaMonet: I would ask why the palace was founded that close to a volcano
14:21.40Vincent20100Because...
14:21.43Vincent20100Dragon's reasons
14:22.32MonetAdmiralPanda: In-universe I'd say same reason as Pompeii was; they didn't know, the heat provided natural warmth and right now the volcano is doemant
14:23.30AdmiralPandaand was the palace always a civil structure or did it/does it have religious connotations?
14:24.51MonetHmm, it could perhaps have been both a temple and a bastion. Given it predates Drakon's Path
14:25.16AdmiralPandaso originally civil, but later gained religious meaning?
14:25.40MonetI can imagine the early local Draconis considering it sacred considering how anomolous the valley is
14:25.52MonetOr have some sort of spiritual thing going on
14:26.14AdmiralPandathen why not "Hearth of the World" and I meant hearth, not heart
14:26.37MonetThat's a good one.
14:27.09MonetIts a warm valley in the middle of a frickin' tundra.
14:27.30DazelHearth of the Earth.
14:27.54MonetSo its likely to neolithic Draconis the whole valley was blessed by dieties of nature.
14:28.30AdmiralPandaDazel: y u try to copy me :P
14:28.50DazelI was just making it rhyme.
14:29.02Monet...which could contribute as to why the moddern city translates as "City of the lifefather"...or "city of *God*" if you want to go Abraham-centric.
14:30.01AdmiralPandaMonet: So it started as a place of pagan nature-worship, then became the centre of Drakon worship
14:30.48AdmiralPandawith that kind of name, the early Draconis might even have thought their god(s) physically lived there
14:31.00Vincent20100"The Heart of Hearth of the Earth"
14:31.01MonetConsidering Drakon's current name is alluded to being named after Lake Drak which is several hundred kilometres south, a jungle or temperate forest in the middle of a tundra is so bizzare that it could easily pass off as some kind of divine place.
14:31.34Vincent20100Jungles in tuondra? What kind of world is that? Minecraft?
14:31.42MonetEither its generic, or missionaries from Dagonris mistook it for Drakon's Garden on Alcanti.
14:32.01AdmiralPandaVincent: It's a world with geothermal activity providing a temperate valley in the middle of an otherwise cold region
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14:33.05MonetMinos'Drakon's valley is surrounded by cliffs and steep hills too. Having grown up in a town within a river basin I understand how those areas can feel warmer than elsewhere.
14:33.15DazelAre volcanoes common in that world?
14:33.49dromVincent20100: http://imgur.com/gallery/84u81
14:35.07AdmiralPandaVolcanoes are a regular occurrence on any planet with tectonic activity really
14:35.22DazelOkay, let me rephrase that.
14:35.33DazelAre volcanoes common enough that people have folklore/legends/gods about them?
14:36.09MonetThat one depends on the time period.
14:36.15drom^
14:37.05MonetIn Italy alone there are two volcanoes - Etna and Vesuvius. But it was only after Vesuvius erupted did we get the word "volcano" after the Roman god Vulcan.
14:37.26DazelDoes this volcano-area in the tundra end up erupting?
14:37.39dromI wonder about the pre-Iceland norweigan folklore?
14:38.46CyrannianBack in a few minutes
14:39.02MonetDazel: Given that Minos'Drakon has been inhabited for ~300,000 years I imagine that the volcano either has erupted at least once or twice, or its extinct.
14:42.03MonetI've mentioned that Drakon has gone by another name and "Drakon" is a colloquial term.
14:44.11MonetSo a few possibilities: Drakon got his name from Lake Drak by Dagonris missionaries who then spread the word north, finding the basin, perhaps mistook it for tales of Drakon's garden and the locals adopted the mythology into their own and later spread it via the Minosian EMpire.
14:45.12MonetThe Empire was the planet's equivilent of the ROman EMpire so for a time the origins of "drakon" could have been drowned by Minosian dogma.
14:49.40MonetSo perhaps originally it was a bastion t osecure the valley, then it became a shrine to honouring the gods of the land, then Drakon, then resided by the Minosian emperors for a bit then perhaps fell into either private hands or disuse after the empire collapsed and the world moved on
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14:50.42MonetBefore Octavus Vospus I moved in as the first paragon of the draconid imperium.
14:50.49MonetHello
14:50.50Vincent20100I though it was still used today by the emprors
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14:51.42MonetBefore Octavus the Alcanti Solar Confederacy and the civ before it were more democratic
14:52.36MonetThe Draconis *could* have gone "scre wit, Democracy isn't for us, let's try something else
14:52.40Monetscrew it*
14:52.42Monet"
14:54.55Vincent20100That's the spirit!
14:55.24DazelDemocracy is nice because if something goes wrong, the government can blame it on the idiots who elected the other idiot.
14:55.48GhelSome species' instincts for social hierarchies may be more suited to having a figurehead leading them. Humans are probably quite close, but a desire for individuality (at least in western cultures) and the tendency for autocrats to become corrupt works against it.
14:58.16MonetI have a lot of religion going on in my fiction.
14:59.05MonetMinos Drakon -> Theorised home of the Lifefather, Paragons -> Semi-divine beings, Blood Dragons -> treated like angels in some places.
15:00.00MonetI wonder if something about Draconis psychology makes swelled-head-syndrome either less likely in general or its less noticeable amongst them.
15:11.49Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Alcanti_Royal_Palace#Collections_and_decorations I considered a lsit of the palace's art collection
15:22.29dromIs there alreayd a titanpad team for sporewiki?
15:23.01MonetI have only just learned it existed
15:24.00Vincent20100yah
15:24.06Vincent20100https://titanpad.com/8oFHaGSx4S
15:24.26dromI didn't mean that one.
15:25.24dromIt was something related to {name}.titanpad.com
15:27.38DazelWhoops, I totally forgot how to do function operations with square roots.
15:28.20dromWhat context are you refering to? Programming or prime mathematics?
15:29.10DazelMaths.
15:29.17DazelThis is Algebra II.
15:31.41dromBye the way, I'm going to create a titanpad site for Sporewiki, so you people can keep the track of your pads. If you people don't mind me doing that.
15:32.26GhelI think Random has one as well, so ask him if he shows up.
15:33.15CyrannianI have all mine saved in my favourites.
15:33.44dromI don't really know. Because our equaivalence of Algebra II uses a different name.
15:35.39MonetRight the dracid name for the Imperial palace is "Drenval'herthus'Ardethda" meaning "palace of the hearth of the world"
15:37.09Vincent20100Drom: Sweden?
15:38.18MonetI'll be back later.
15:39.26dromDazel: Is the function a second degree quadratic equation?
15:39.36DazelNope, not quadratic.
15:40.29Dazeldrom: http://i.snag.gy/zd5Fe.jpg
15:42.43GhelAre you asking for help with this?
15:43.12dromTip = negative roots  = unreal
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15:44.01dromSo it's either C and D, because when a value exceds the range, one of the roots become negative.
15:44.06GhelHello.
15:44.20dromMaking the function unreal.
15:44.31MrKyuremHi
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15:45.05DazelGhel: I'm not asking for help at the moment, no.  I can probably stick it into the graphing calculator and get it from there.
15:45.30MrKyuremHi Dazel
15:45.39DazelOh, hi.
15:45.44Vincent20100Hi Mr
15:45.51DazelYou somehow joined within the few seconds I was disconnected.
15:46.15MrKyuremYep :P
15:46.33dromDazel, you remember the golden rule about square roots and negative values?
15:46.33DazelI referenced your empire.
15:46.50DazelThat they can't... exist simultaneously?
15:47.25MrKyuremgoes to see the reference
15:47.53dromNo. Try √-1 in your calculator
15:48.31dromIt will spit out a "Ma ERROR". It's because negative numbers are unreal with square roots.
15:48.38DazelOh, right.
15:48.42DazelYeah, it says Unreal Answer.
15:49.12dromSo, take a closer look at the range.
15:49.45DazelI think the range is all real numbers greater than zero.
15:49.52DazelWell, that's what it looks like, anyway.
15:50.16GhelThe function f/g (x) = sqrt(10 - x)/sqrt(x + 6), so if x > 10, then the numerator won't be real.
15:51.13GhelThat's the first important result of what drom's telling you.
15:51.33drom0 work.
15:51.45DazelHm, okay.
15:51.48dromBut, ANYTHING LESS than 0 are unreal with square roots.
15:52.16GhelIn English, we call them "imaginary numbers", not that that's any better phrasing.
15:53.03DazelBut { x | 0 < x ≤ 10 } isn't an option, though that's what it seems like the answer would be given those facts.
15:53.24GhelSo why do you think x can't be less than 0?
15:53.37DazelBecause negative numbers don't work with square roots.
15:53.44dromWe got no term for that. Only thing I know is "irreal" which is literaly "non-real".
15:53.50GhelLet's take x = -1.
15:53.52drom0^2 = 0
15:53.58dromBecause it's 0*0
15:54.25Ghel(f/g) (-1) = sqrt(10+ -1)/sqrt(-1 + 6) = sqrt(11)/sqrt(5). No negative numbers inside square roots there.
15:54.38DazelOh, right.
15:55.04dromSo it's B.
15:55.06DazelSo it just has to be so x is less than ten and greater than negative ten, I suppose?
15:55.06DazelOh.
15:55.22dromx > -6 = x is BIGGER than -6
15:55.45GhelX can't be greater than ten, so it's not B.
15:56.04DazelSo, C.
15:56.54GhelYes. But to check your understanding, do you know why x has to be greater than -6, and can't be equal to it?
15:57.18Dazel...Kind of?
15:57.24DazelI am relying on the graph a lot here, too.
15:57.51GhelIf x = -6, then the denominator is sqrt(-6 + 6) = sqrt(0) = 0, and you can't divide by zero.
15:58.29GhelBut when answering questions in homework or exams, "it's not one of the options" is usually a perfectly acceptable reason. :P
15:58.49DazelOh, I was thinking about 10, not six.
15:58.50DazelRight.
15:59.46dromStill, anything above 10 will turn the first root to a unreal.
16:00.12DazelSo -6 < x < 10.
16:00.14dromIf I don't misunderstand this function.
16:00.48GhelYou understand correctly, drom.
16:01.07GhelDazel: -6 < x <= 10, because if x = 10 the function's value is 0 (which is allowed).
16:01.22dromYep.
16:01.30DazelOh, okay.
16:01.33DazelOkay!  So... that's that.
16:01.35Dazelhits submit
16:04.02Vincent20100And...
16:04.08Vincent20100Moment of truth...
16:04.09dromPhysics is like algebra. But it's more like a mess. Because you have to understand what the varibles stand for.
16:04.21DazelI think it was right.
16:04.23dromAnd, that's why I hate it, so much.
16:04.26DazelAlgebra is... I like algebra.
16:05.10DazelI like it less than straight arithmetic, though.
16:05.17GhelIf you can't stand algebraic equations in physics, just wait until you use differential ones.
16:05.39DazelWell, I'm fortunate enough to be taking algebra several years before I do physics.
16:06.57drom*googles it* - "Mather, fukk-"
16:09.33Angrybirdstest
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16:10.12Vincent20100Hey
16:11.24AngrybirdsHey!
16:12.13dromMy head feels like it's going to explode
16:12.15dromHelp
16:12.31Angrybirdsdumps a bucket of water on Drom's head.
16:13.14GhelAre you still looking at differential equations?
16:14.00CyrannianHi
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16:19.05Vincent20100Angry: Ice bucket challenge?
16:19.20AngrybirdsThere was no ice in that bucket :(
16:20.18Vincent20100Still better than: "There was no water in that bucket"
16:27.01Vincent20100I have found compromising pictures of  Wormy...
16:27.02Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:WormyNaughtyCyra.png
16:27.37DazelWormy.
16:27.39DazelWormy no.
16:27.49Hachimanbrb
16:28.37OluapWorkerGoddamnit
16:28.54CyrannianVincent: He's both classy and subtle at the same time.
16:29.00Vincent20100#Wormy being a gentleman
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16:36.16Wormy_Damn Surgency
16:36.32GhelHello.
16:36.40DazelWe all know your secret now, Wormy.
16:36.43Wormy_hi
16:36.49Vincent20100Wormy...
16:37.01Vincent20100I have found... "Compromising" pictures of you...
16:37.04Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:WormyNaughtyCyra.png
16:37.09Vincent20100Explain this.
16:37.52Wormy_I thought my risque relationship with Cyrannian was more obvious.
16:39.06Vincent20100Well then...
16:39.12Vincent20100How about this?
16:39.15Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:VeryWeirdSTO.png
16:39.30Hachimanrite back
16:39.36Vincent20100There is no where to run WOrmy!
16:39.44Wormy_shrugs
16:39.55DazelThese file names are amusing.
16:40.00Wormy_We enjoy being explicit
16:40.51Wormy_Keep sharing the love Vincent
16:41.08Vincent20100Who is the third dude?
16:41.15DazelIt's the baby from Toy Story 3.
16:41.32Vincent20100If a "dude" it is...
16:41.33Wormy_Close, Liquid Ink
16:41.49Vincent20100You know what would be epic...
16:41.56Vincent20100Fiction Universe: The Movie!
16:42.05Vincent20100Hundreds and hundreds of hours of lazers pistols, spaceships fights and genocides. ^^
16:42.46Wormy_I made a War of Ages movie once
16:43.02Vincent20100Cyra has done the casting
16:43.02Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Trivia?file=WormyNaughtyCyra.png#SporeWiki:_The_Movie
16:43.32Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Trivia#SporeWiki:_The_Movie
16:43.34Vincent20100This one
16:44.51Vincent20100Wormy: send the link plz
16:45.04HachimanSo I got my new glasses today
16:45.07HachimanI look like a dork ;-;
16:45.41Wormy_ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ)
16:46.40OluapWorkerYou're my dork <3
16:47.06Wormy_Vincent:  Don't get too excited https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3ATWlP5mgA&list=UUxZ-P7OL4xTcdGx-OUO2XWw
16:48.03Hachiman<PROTECTED>
16:48.42Wormy_You will never look like a dork with hair like that.
16:48.46OluapWorkerHell you look like a hipster
16:48.59OluapWorkerGo back to hobo hair hur
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16:49.04OluapWorkerspu
16:49.04Wormy_I was going to say studious artist
16:49.11Xhou
16:49.16HachimanI had to tie it up to get my ID done
16:50.04XhoThere's such a lack of Imperios it's not funny
16:50.21HachimanWell he does go to uni
16:50.32Wormy_When is there not a lack of Imperios?
16:50.47Wormy_at least when you need him hur
16:51.19Vincent20100That was good Wormy ^^
16:52.44Wormy_There is a volume II as well
16:54.19Vincent20100I'm sure that said a producer from hollywood will come on the wiki one day and say like: "I wanna do a movie about you guys".
16:54.39HachimanThere are things far more worth doing a movie about
16:54.42HachimanLike Stephen Baxter's stuff
16:55.11Vincent20100Seeing the shi... shnitzel that hollywood is making recentyl, it might even be better than most of their other movies. ;p
16:55.13Wormy_Xeelee Sequence anime style
16:56.16Wormy_SporeWiki games woulkd be a more modern prospect
16:56.30Vincent20100yah
16:56.37Wormy_Though nobody is going to come along and make them, it would be us.
16:56.40Vincent20100it actually would make a very decent game too
16:56.51XhoHm what to do
16:57.02Wormy_Hi
16:57.02Cyrannianruns and jumps into Wormy's arms, biting off his head in the process
16:57.47Vincent20100Cyrannian: Forget about Spore Wiki: The movie!, now it'S Spore Wiki: The Game!
16:57.53Wormy_sprays caloric and liminier all over Ghel
16:57.54Wormy_*luminier
16:59.04Ghelfires a coherent beam of N-rays at Wormy_
16:59.31Dazeltaps his foot, whistles a tune, plays solitaire
17:00.34Xho, having no clue what to do, vomits on the floor and leaves
17:01.30Wormy_dephlogisticates Ghel
17:01.31Cyrannianmops up the vomit using Wormy's digested head
17:01.53Dazeltakes the vomit home
17:02.01XhoI went on Spore and I can't remember why now
17:02.26XhoOh now I remember
17:07.26HachimanNgh these glasses are giving me a headache
17:07.30HachimanI preferred when I was blind
17:07.38OluapWorkerYou'll get used to it
17:08.00OluapWorkerThat's your eyes adapting to the glasses
17:08.21HachimanI can see everyone's wrinkles and spots and shit
17:08.24HachimanIt's disgusting
17:09.04OluapWorkerolol
17:11.47Hachimanbrb
17:12.45OluapWorkerstop leaving ;-;
17:18.27XhoI have 16,666 edits
17:18.32Xhoits tiem to devil up dis shi
17:19.07Vincent20100<PROTECTED>
17:22.17XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiSr8iNwWswv Meet Meshuggah's lights tech
17:24.10Hachimanbak
17:24.13HachimanXho: My God
17:25.13Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10702115_1523036954580041_8027339402271903535_n.jpg?oh=403513e925b726b0c8cdef8a44febbd9&oe=54D14646&__gda__=1421914233_a505127ba1bd35121b5b5f5f5ba637a1 "ever seen a shirt do a 180"
17:25.57Xhohoh
17:26.22Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001172028/spore/images/3/36/MidnightRealm.png Finally got around to doing a picture of Midnight
17:29.24Wormy_I need a Xho quick
17:29.27Wormy_Whayt
17:29.45Wormy_*I need a quick sleep I meant to say
17:29.46Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OWL7AzvHo My response
17:30.39Wormy_Not sure how you got winded up with that
17:30.50Wormy_*wound
17:45.33Cyrannianbbl
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17:50.11Vincent20100HEy
17:50.16Vincent20100Gotta leave soon
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17:51.01TekDroidHello
18:04.25XhoHachiman: Looks like I've just learnt Swarm
18:07.12Vincent20100gotta go, ++
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18:15.35MonetHello
18:15.49Angrybirds_Hey!
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18:34.46DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
18:37.22XhoStill bored
18:37.24DazelDoes my page have enough images? http://www.spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Adaisical_Empire
18:37.36DazelBad link.
18:37.36Dazelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Adaisical_Technocracy
18:40.10GhelHello.
18:40.18GhelYes, your page doesn't need any more images for now.
18:40.24DazelOkay!
18:40.32DazelIt looked really boring without them but I don't want to overdo it.
18:53.31Xhohttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1394142_961137990600058_6690250504883304991_n.png?oh=0906e52351342dc6932beff37f9e481f&oe=54C97E9B Disregard the fact he doesn't know roman numerals for shit
18:53.57HachimanI just saw that on my feed
18:54.21OluapWorkeri dun get it
18:54.37DazelI haven't checked Facebook in a few months.
18:55.26HachimanXho: I was looking through the songs on Catch 33 and I misread "Shed" as "Salad"
18:56.13OluapWorkerAnd I misread "Shed" as "Shrek"
18:56.15XhoI FLOAT THROUGH PHYSICAL THOUGHT              I STARE DOWN THE ABYSS                OF ORGANIC PRODUCE
18:57.17Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001172028/spore/images/3/36/MidnightRealm.png I posted this earlier
18:57.20XhoDon't think anyone saw it
18:57.40OluapWorkerI did but I don't have anything to say
18:58.02HachimanLooks rather bizarre
18:58.09HachimanSurprised you didn't use a fractal hur
18:58.16XhoI might do
18:58.45GhelSo what are those ruins?
18:59.31HachimanMy glasses make me look hideously obnoxious and hipstery
18:59.34Hachimani dunt liek dis
18:59.50XhoGhel: Remnants of whatever the Phoenixes constructed
18:59.51OluapWorkerquit complainin
19:00.02GhelI guess they built the road too.
19:00.07XhoSince Caligaduro wiped them all but Kinmorunddraver out they fell into disuse and ruin
19:00.10Xhoyeh
19:00.44XhoThe only things that exist within Midnight are Kinmorunddraver, Midnight's own wildlife and elementals
19:01.09XhoAnd of course the flora and the ruins
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19:03.53Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10710576_334140243413344_2393108922794657328_n.png?oh=5377bebe325afab22583c09056edaf47&oe=54BB1015&__gda__=1417938559_8d8871e399abfeb530c87aae577eeaf7
19:04.07Xho"worse than hitler"
19:04.34OluapWorkerhur
19:05.38Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10388653_334140296746672_5015605207902457166_n.png?oh=43d7297188e38714c974d86da34517e0&oe=54C54728
19:05.42Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10388653_334140296746672_5015605207902457166_n.png?oh=43d7297188e38714c974d86da34517e0&oe=54C54728
19:05.48HachimanWoops
19:06.00Xhohoh
19:12.59DrodoEmpirehttp://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/41979520766515876/DAF2A3986D07E4FA958D7A6F18B5D21B1E2370D3/ - O.O
19:13.02DrodoEmpireHow the...
19:13.59DrodoEmpireJust for reference, at game start Byzantium starts with three provinces separated away from eachother.
19:14.17XhoConstantinopolowned
19:14.20dromIt find it a bit funny because the form to left looks like a guy out on a walk while dragging a sleigh
19:14.24DrodoEmpireAnd its knocked out of the game by the Ottomans really, really early
19:14.28DrodoEmpirehur
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19:15.33DrodoEmpireHello
19:16.05Wormy_hi
19:16.07MonetDrodoEmpire: All hail the New ROman EMpire
19:16.20DrodoEmpireYeah, lol
19:16.31DrodoEmpireIn CKII you can actually reform the Roman Empire
19:17.18DrodoEmpirehttp://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/41979520766513515/7D553234F183EBC39A1ABEC8F3FE92FB62F3A1B6/
19:18.29Xhohttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001191740/spore/images/3/34/MidnightFractal.png My somewhat better depiction of Midnight
19:18.40MonetThe UK controls a piece of Norway? What is this witchcraft
19:19.01DrodoEmpireMonet: Yeah, *that's* the surprising part.
19:19.02DrodoEmpireXD
19:19.07DrodoEmpireXho: Whoa, nice
19:19.47Monetlooks towards Columbia and sees "Holland"
19:20.12DrodoEmpirehur
19:20.33DrodoEmpireColonies are weird like that
19:21.56OluapWorkerPelagrios - i see the whole universe                   but not single bottle of rum
19:22.02OluapWorkernot a*
19:26.03XhoKinmo - get outta heer u drunken bum
19:27.08OluapWorkerPelagrios - i stole dis realm
19:30.27XhoKinmo - y u do dis
19:31.25OluapWorkerNo one can find Aethereus anymore because Pelagrios stole him
19:31.44XhoKinmo - u bastard
19:32.00OluapWorkerPelagrios - is thanksgivin tiem
19:32.57Wormy_Xho:  I'm seeing Hawkwind on Friday
19:34.36XhoAs in the band
19:39.02Wormy_yes
19:44.43Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10277739_1065440913485361_8660634070387527315_n.jpg?oh=1b6a94c643be02fc0a7dde8fd8674434&oe=54BD9F9E&__gda__=1421829543_ae14b67cb4bbe1e57992459357c2ab5a
19:46.07OluapWorkerIt's not wrong
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19:48.44ImpyDroidGODDAMN ESSAY FUCKING
19:49.15MonetIMPY!
19:49.32ImpyDroidHi
19:49.34MonetHello!
19:50.49ImpyDroid~attack Monet
19:50.49infobotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Monet
19:50.56ImpyDroidYou wanted something?
19:51.20MonetI just missed you
19:51.45DrodoEmpireI'm not feeling particularly creative today. :P I guess no writing for now
19:52.51OluapWorkerHi
19:53.11ImpyDroidUni's eating a lot of time
19:53.20ImpyDroidI just spent all day making an essay
19:53.25Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001195110/spore/images/0/09/ZenithFractal.png And Zenith
19:53.27DazelIs there a relations template?
19:53.31DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10157237_730925066990754_4609684870122358515_n.jpg?oh=1533e89f1d0e799c9a61806c7433d2ab&oe=54C32FB8&__gda__=1422571108_cbebeb282f32d654f1401ec425c6a3d6 - This is what I spent eighty dollars for.
19:53.37XhoFor some odd reason the edges are cut off
19:53.44DrodoEmpireRome II, everyone.
19:53.53ImpyDroidProblem is, the tutor I am making the essay for hates me anyway :P
19:54.20OluapWorkerPelagrios - heaven sucks             there's no rum there either
19:54.23MonetDrodoEMpire: Isn't the Emperor Editino supposed ot be an improvement?
19:54.35DazelIf not, I can make one.
19:54.44DrodoEmpireYeah, it should be
19:54.53DrodoEmpireI haven't been playing much Rome II
19:56.12Wormy_OluapWorker:  I have some Ainsley Harriot brand cous cous.  His image will smile upon me as I eat
19:56.26OluapWorkerGlorious
19:56.36XhoPraise be the oil
19:56.50XhoRight now
19:57.09XhoSomeone come up with quotes for Zenith and Midnight
19:57.27XhoI would use the Pelagrios joke but it's a joke hur
19:57.34OluapWorker"TOO BRIGHT", "TOO DARK" -Pelagrios
19:58.02XhoThat also did run through my mind hur
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20:08.16ImpyDroid{{quote|It is said that somewhere in the Outer Land there is a cavern so dark that no light can pierce the blackness inside it. Terrible and wondrous it is, full of heavenly birds and strange beasts.(continue)
20:09.15Ghel"A realm with scenery beyond beauty, with skies made of a crystal firmament far more glorious than anything an inhabitant of the lower planes could ever conceive of, let alone fall upon the opportunity to witness. But it feels wrong, somehow. As though the loss of the Phoenixes left it devoid of something that once made it even greater, and the lack of this quality is so tangible as to be discomforting."
20:09.18ImpyDroidIt is the land of purity - serene and beautiful, yet terrible in its wrath shall its master's ire be invoked. But we are not that foolish.|Perune Žerni, Arch-Priest of the [[fiction:Koldenwelt/Simulacra|Outer Gods]]}}
20:09.35GhelSorry Imp, I bisected your quote.
20:09.55ImpyDroidhur
20:10.00OluapWorkerdun goofd
20:10.11Xhogun doofd
20:10.24GhelI don't know who my quote could come from, or which of the two realms it could refer to, but I felt like being creative for a change.
20:10.34MonetWOuld it be Phoenices or Phoencices?
20:10.52MonetWOuld it be Phoenixes or Phoencices?
20:10.56XhoPhoenixes
20:11.12OluapWorkerPelagrios - burds
20:11.21ImpyDroidhttp://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/phoenices whutchusay
20:11.32XhoTechnically it's actually 'Echdrarothrayu'
20:11.35OluapWorkerIf he wants to call them phoenixes he can hur
20:11.48Xhohttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=define+Phoenixes isaydis
20:12.31XhoGhel's will go for Zenith and Imperios' Midnight
20:13.08ImpyDroidGah all this essay writing made me want to do fiction again
20:13.16ImpyDroidI will probably have time tomorrow
20:13.36ImpyDroidMonet, care to do anything the next day?
20:14.01MonetImpyDroid: I have a (realtively) free afternoon
20:14.07ImpyDroidgud
20:14.20OluapWorkerhow bout u go work on Mequelet
20:14.37ImpyDroidI figured out that instead of RPing
20:14.42MonetNote these days "free" = I don't have scheduled lessons but I may need to still do cousework.
20:14.43ImpyDroidhttp://collabedit.com We could use dis
20:15.18MonetBut if my work is sketching or photopshop I may be able ot multitask
20:15.55ImpyDroidGah you're lucky
20:16.08ImpyDroidYou get to draw in Photoship
20:16.31ImpyDroidI do calculus and write essays on linguistics 0_o
20:16.38HachimanIdeally Photoshop shouldn't be used for drawing
20:16.51HachimanPaint Tool Sai is a more ideal program
20:16.53ImpyDroidYeah it's not very good for it
20:17.01ImpyDroidI was about to say that
20:17.09ImpyDroidAlyona uses it I think
20:17.21MonetAhh you jsut need the right techniques
20:17.27ImpyDroidSpeaking of which, we kinda reconciled, so we're good again
20:17.40ImpyDroidAnd her birthday is exactly one week away
20:17.40Hachimanu got ur waifu bak
20:17.43Hachimancongratz chimp
20:17.48MonetPhotoshop has all kinds of brush shapes and layering techniques.
20:17.54ImpyDroidAny ideas on what present I could give her?
20:18.02HachimanImpyDroid: A dick in a box
20:18.12ImpyDroidThe first person who suggests the word D gets rapes by said D
20:18.20ImpyDroid*raped
20:18.33ImpyDroidgit raped u
20:18.35HachimanMonet: Photoshop has that but I find it's more useful for colouring and applying effects
20:18.40HachimanSai is far more practical for actual drawing
20:18.47HachimanEspecially with a tablet
20:19.11OluapWorkerIt's not rape if it's consensual
20:19.17HachimanAye
20:19.21HachimanOr if the rapee is dead
20:19.30HachimanSince they can't say no
20:19.38OluapWorkerYou're saying you're dead
20:20.19Hachiman2edgy
20:20.50OluapWorkerGet your hair back to normal you damn hipster
20:21.32Hachiman<PROTECTED>
20:21.51OluapWorkerYes that's relatively better
20:21.58OluapWorkerRelatively because you sill look like a hobo HOH
20:21.59XhoYou went from metalhead to fashionista in one simple mvoe
20:22.01Xhomove*
20:22.27ImpyDroidGod that's too much hair
20:22.31Hachiman<PROTECTED>
20:22.41XhoOh god my sides
20:22.46ImpyDroid...True that was neckbeard
20:23.02ImpyDroidYou're better with long hair yeah
20:23.05HachimanI aint gotta neckbeard watchu on about
20:23.11OluapWorkerSporeWiki IRC: LotG Fashion Discussion
20:23.22ImpyDroidYes but you look like a Neckbeard with short hair
20:23.34HachimanTrue hur
20:23.52ImpyDroidI wonder what I'd look like with long hair
20:23.59HachimanA Mongol
20:24.05MonetWell none of the cmputers at uni have SAI so I'd rather master one program for now than two
20:24.17ImpyDroidpillages Hachiman
20:24.20HachimanMonet: butbut versatility
20:24.30OluapWorkerThis convo went euphoric really fast
20:24.42Hachimanhur
20:24.46Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=961343450579512&permPage=1 Now this made me laugh again
20:24.53ImpyDroidI remember drawing Javina in Sai
20:24.58ImpyDroidTurned out shit
20:25.06MonetI've been using SAI for a long while now
20:25.24MonetPlus when my course is over, I can use whatever program I'm comfortable with while i'm freelance
20:26.30HachimanNgh freelancing is a tricky business
20:26.38HachimanGotta manage your own finances and shit
20:26.38Technobliterator"LotG"
20:26.43TechnobliteratorI've not seen that name in a while :o
20:27.04OluapWorkerBecause you're barely here anymore
20:27.53Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10645181_1066088833420569_5513415398027135759_n.jpg?oh=b94b8469b59b9c2989cfd9e78b9c31a7&oe=54C14369&__gda__=1420930051_d5f650910ef90de830cf7019a34bfb44
20:28.15MonetWell freelancing is common. Or I settle down with a development studio
20:28.33OluapWorkerolol
20:29.01ImpyDroidIt'd be funny if we end up founding a studio together
20:29.10ImpyDroidSome of us at least
20:29.19Hachimanfuk ur furfaggotry
20:29.27OluapWorkersays the fugfag
20:29.31OluapWorkerfurfag even
20:30.14XhoFugfag
20:30.22OluapWorkerfugfag sounds like something Hachi wouldsay while trying to flirt witha  girl
20:30.27XhoStop making me laugh my ribs are beginning to hurt
20:30.28MonetHow is founding a studio furfaggotry?
20:30.30Hachimanolol
20:30.43Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Echdrarothrayu#Realms Anyway, done this
20:30.43OluapWorkerayyy gurl u wanna fugfag
20:31.02ImpyDroidSpeaking of which
20:31.32ImpyDroidAfter tying up some loose ends in New Dawn, progressing A LITTLE with the Shattering
20:31.48OluapWorkerOf course both realms are full of murderous things
20:31.56ImpyDroidAnd finishing the Prophet Stone, I'd like to work on a larger fantasy story
20:32.09ImpyDroidLike, WoV/FL-large
20:32.17HachimanTits or gtfo
20:32.21OluapWorker2bad
20:32.22XhoThink of it as just a god version of Koldenwelt really
20:32.42XhoSo yes everything is more or less trying to kill you
20:32.58OluapWorkerI'd not mind resuming that Endless Host story
20:33.05OluapWorkerThat one with Kimorgos being people up and stuff
20:33.07ImpyDroidOh yes that
20:33.10HachimanA good story needs priorities; tits come first and then a story to try and justify the tits and their actititties
20:33.12OluapWorkerbeating even
20:33.22XhoThat reminds me
20:33.32XhoImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3APyyls'as Are you alright with this
20:33.54ImpyDroidHachiman: Problem with tits in my fiction is I only have Javina's tits and Ophellatar's tits
20:34.03XhoPelagrios - dun care tits r gud
20:34.06OluapWorkerI don't like his attitude toward Kimorgos
20:34.15HachimanMake more tits then
20:34.15XhoThat's the idea hur
20:34.22XhoThey're not meant to like each other
20:34.26OluapWorkerBecause?
20:34.34XhoKimorgos is a dick hu
20:34.36Xhohur
20:34.42OluapWorkerNot buying that
20:34.51XhoWell tough
20:34.54ImpyDroidI have tits
20:35.20MonetThe world is full of dicks
20:35.23MonetAnd pussies
20:35.25Monetand assholes
20:35.30ImpyDroidIt's just that these are either probably small Nazi tits and insane furry tits
20:36.03XhoEither that or Pyyls'as is more of a dick
20:36.14dromshit, the hell is you guys?
20:36.28ImpyDroid...Makes me wonder just how well-endowed Javi is
20:36.33Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aBQxN12_460s.jpg
20:37.25XhoPelagrios - being alhassan                  not very much
20:37.41ImpyDroidAlhassans are not Asian hur
20:37.51XhoPelagrios - my experience has spoken
20:38.25ImpyDroid...Then again I am not sure why people think Asian women have small busts
20:38.55XhoImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3APyyls'as Dammit do you think this is feasible or not
20:39.05ImpyDroidYes feasible
20:39.12Xhogud
20:39.35HachimanImpyDroid: Because most Europeans are familiar with Asian tits in the form of flat-chested moe schoolgirls
20:39.44HachimanUnfortunately
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20:39.49Knight_AlienHi
20:40.06GhelHello.
20:40.13MonetImpyDroid: Also another cool thing about my course is I get to watch movies.
20:40.30ImpyDroidWe do on our English courses, a little
20:40.45HachimanSo do we in my multimedia course hur
20:41.01HachimanI do drawing, filming, animating, all of it really
20:41.16MonetThis term I've seen Metropolis, and continuing in my term I'll be seeing 2001, the original King Kong and Alien among others.
20:44.05Monet"A trip to the moon" was wierd but also funny
20:44.22DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10625118_730950586988202_5883756419684201521_n.png?oh=5a305578493e70a5e27283e86f002ee4&oe=5488D609&__gda__=1421480035_18b935803c71944946056084b7ee5da3
20:45.22MonetDrodo: LOL
20:45.32DrodoEmpire:3
20:46.54XhoOluapWorker: A friend of mine on Steam won the Saxxy Award for Best Comedy
20:47.18OluapWorkerGood for them
20:49.39GhelI'm going to go now. Bye!
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20:52.58DrodoEmpire~seen OfficerJackal
20:53.03infobotofficerjackal <~OfficerJa@c-69-139-46-236.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 18h 34m 20s ago, saying: 'Agh, what was his IRC name..'.
20:53.13DrodoEmpireHm
20:57.44dromI rather think that Rivalry Rush is funnier than the Comedy nominees in general.
21:03.33MonetHachiman: I'm told a lot of studios use Photoshop anyway, plus next year I *could* learn Zbrush for modelling, but the problem with dual=learning Maya and Zbrush is the interface-hopping.
21:04.07MonetSame could be said for Photoshop and SAI, especially since the uni has to cater for peopl who can't draw for shit
21:04.35MonetThe intention of year 1 is to get us all on the same level of professionalism with the skills we need before we start year 2
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21:09.45XhoIs it me or is Oluap quickly becoming a petulant brat
21:10.30DrodoEmpireHm?
21:10.45XhoHe's becoming bad tempered for no real reason
21:11.12DrodoEmpireUhh... I don't know, being honest. :P I don't really concern myself with your guys' conversations
21:11.21DrodoEmpireI guess so
21:11.31DrodoEmpireAs in, he's being short-tempered
21:11.43HachimanHe's always been short-tempered though
21:11.51DrodoEmpireHe could just be stressed
21:12.01XhoWell being short tempered at me
21:12.27XhoBeing short tempered at me isn't a wise idea I must stress
21:12.32HachimanConsidering he works an unpaid job and has to attend a college course that he doesn't enjoy doing I can see why he'd be a bit short-tempered
21:13.29XhoWell I suppose it's just me
21:13.47XhoI just turn on people who start on me
21:15.56XhoYou could be my best friend for all I care, as soon as something goes wrong you're already teetering on the edge
21:16.46DrodoEmpirePersonally I think that isn't a great attitude; At any rate I'd just advise to be patient with him. The last thing we need is another big argument
21:17.09XhoIt isn't a good attitude
21:17.31XhoBut it's the same attitude I apply to everyone
21:18.13MonetNo special treatment? Soudns fair really.
21:20.27DazelI suppose it's good that you can identify that about yourself, at any rate.
21:20.42DrodoEmpire^
21:21.17XhoI don't know what's worse really; that I'm a dick or that I know that I'm a dick
21:22.15DazelWell...
21:22.22DazelThat's not being a dick, really.  It's being cautious.
21:22.41DazelBeing a dick would be if you back-stabbed people as soon as they did something wrong, and that's not what I'm picking up.
21:23.03XhoSuppose that's a load off my mind
21:23.17Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Pyyls%27as I've done this page
21:34.30XhoNot particularly a relevant character until Imperios does something
21:43.15XhoHachiman: No excuse for being a dick though
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21:43.39XhoThere's absolutely no excuse to randomly lash out at anyone for any reason
21:44.41XhoI never enjoyed college nor do I always enjoy where I work
21:44.58XhoI don't take that anger out on anyone
21:45.58XhoIf he gets slightly bitchy at me again I'm gonna put him right in his place
21:46.04XhoThat's a promise
21:46.26XhoIt's not even good wiki conduct for the first part
21:46.34DrodoEmpireXho, the last thing this wiki needs is a big argument amongst senior users.
21:46.42DrodoEmpireAt the very least settle it privately
21:46.45HachimanI think you're overreacting
21:47.10HachimanIt's not like he's out to get you or anything
21:47.16XhoThe fact that the senior users aren't doing anything to solve the problem as of late is an issue of itself
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21:47.50Wormy_hi
21:47.52MonetHi
21:48.15MonetI'd weigh in but I really won't. I think i'm hated enough for doing it on this subject.
21:48.41HachimanHe said an off-hand comment or whatever, nothing to crucify him for, everyone here has done it
21:48.58HachimanI've said far worse to the newer users than Oluap has to you
21:49.23XhoHm, true
21:49.33XhoI suppose it's funny when you do it
21:49.47XhoOluap doesn't come across as funny when he does it to anyone
21:50.17HachimanAlso keep in mind Oluap isn't trying to provoke you
21:50.24XhoI'll probably forget all of this by tomorrow anyway
21:51.11Xho"I do not agree with any of this. Not everything has to go your way."
21:51.13XhoOkay that's it
21:51.15XhoHad enough
21:51.38Wormy_Sometimes I feel I annoy Oluap
21:52.10Wormy_Which is a shame, I like him.  But we don't talk very much anymore
21:53.41Monet<PROTECTED>
21:54.09HachimanYou don't like Oluap anyway
21:54.17HachimanSo you aren't really validated to comment
21:54.38XhoObjectively speaking, no it's not becoming of an admin
21:54.43XhoI told him to ask me to remove things
21:54.44XhoHe didn't
21:55.05HachimanXho: To be fair you added stuff involved Kimorgos without asking him
21:55.12Hachiman*involving
21:55.16XhoPerhaps
21:55.22XhoStill he should ask me
21:55.23Monet<PROTECTED>
21:56.03Monet<PROTECTED>
21:56.05Wormy_Especially as you told jim to.
21:56.08Wormy_*him
21:56.16XhoExactly
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21:56.42HachimanTrue but there's a fiction-encompassing rule stating you shouldn't add stuff involving other people's fiction without permission
21:56.47HachimanYou did that with Kimorgos on the page
21:57.06XhoKimorgos and Pyyls'as are both part of the Endless Host which owned by another user entirely
21:57.16XhoWhether it was owned by Oluap or not is irrelevant in that respect
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21:57.46HachimanThat's still not a valid argument considering *you* own Pyyls'as and *he* owns Kimorgos, not Imp
21:58.02XhoWow you're actually taking sides
21:58.14HachimanNo I'm putting it into perspective
21:58.37HachimanHe removed stuff without asking, but you added stuff involving his stuff without asking for his consent to your own
21:58.46HachimanNeither of which are right
21:59.01Xho97% of the stuff I have done has involved other user's content on my pages
21:59.05Wormy_Lets not tke this conversation up a level.  The facts are, you and Oluap *both* may feel you are being impolite to each other.
21:59.22HachimanYeah, as Wormy said
21:59.28Wormy_Weighting up both perspectives
21:59.29XhoPerhaps what I did was improper but still
22:00.49HachimanLack of communication really
22:00.51MonetOKay what about him removing Kimno's reference to Zran Kar?
22:01.02XhoI found that particularly annoying
22:02.14XhoI'm pretty sure he just doesn't like me any more
22:02.43HachimanI wouldn't say that
22:02.53XhoI dunno
22:02.58HachimanHe's acted like this to me a couple of times, minus the page incidents
22:03.02XhoHe's been rather bitch-tempered at me for a while
22:03.21XhoPerhaps you should tell him to calm it down rather than me since you can put it more delicately
22:03.39XhoI'll calm down of my own accord
22:04.08XhoHis attitude towards me recently though
22:04.18XhoIt's gotten on my nerves a little too much
22:04.31HachimanI'm just saying that an improper action was treated by another improper action, neither of which are justified nor justify each other
22:05.06XhoI'm disregarding what just happened, I've come up with feasible suggestions recently to him and he's said no to all of them
22:05.17XhoWithout explanation either
22:06.59XhoNext time round I'll just continue building on my own stuff rather than coming up with suggestions
22:08.19XhoObviously not worth my time being friendly any more
22:21.50XhoOkay I'm over it now
22:22.48MonetThat was uick
22:22.57Monetquick*
22:23.44XhoI probably have Intermittent Explosive Disorder or something
22:25.05MonetOr worst-case-scenarion: Extreme bipolar disorder
22:25.50MonetOn another note is it right I'm arguing with a friend over whether or not the Tunnel Snakes from Fallout are an example of bad character design?
22:26.05XhoHm dunno
22:26.09XhoI gotta go to sleep anyway
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22:26.53DrodoEmpireBack.
22:27.24MonetThe main argument is "how are they Greasers when there's no point in them having motorbikes?"
22:27.50MonetAlso there was a very minor point of where they'd get said bikes and the leather jackets
22:28.35MonetThen I remembered another possible sign of bad character design: They were forgettable for me, I completely forgot they existed about halfway though the game and can't remember the leader's name. Was Bobby?
22:28.57DrodoEmpireWhat's this about?
22:29.32MonetDrodoEmpire:[23:25] <Monet> On another note is it right I'm arguing with a friend over whether or not the Tunnel Snakes from Fallout are an example of bad character design?
22:29.38DrodoEmpireAh
22:33.10MonetI suppose it is relevant considering character design is a -big- part of my course
22:35.59MonetWait I just remembered that I shouldn't: The guy's a total neckbeard
22:36.15MonetYou know the guy wh owould consider Fallout the greatest RPG ever
22:38.37MonetSo I lost the moment I disagreed
22:39.31HachimanDoes he actually *have* a neckbeard and a fedora and the likes?
22:40.58MonetFedora? No. Neckbeard? Yes. Glasses? Yes. Curly heair? yes. Large body? Yes.
22:41.16Hachiman>Implying curly hair is neckbeardy
22:41.28MonetIt can be...
22:42.17HachimanI have curly hair and I'm not a neckbeard hur
22:42.21HachimanAnd glasses
22:42.24HachimanShit
22:42.33MonetYou play D&D though
22:42.56MonetOne, Of. Us. One. Of. Us.
22:43.24HachimanHowever I'm not fat, large or have a fedora hur
22:43.33HachimanOr a neckbeard
22:43.41HachimanJust a beard hur
22:44.28MonetLooked on your photo.
22:44.38Wormy_Oh I have more updates abnout the weaboo in my class
22:44.43MonetYou have a proto-neckbeard
22:45.05HachimanI have a sense of hygeine though so I'd shave it before it gets to that point
22:45.24MonetFair enough
22:45.26DrodoEmpireWormy_ I'm interested.
22:45.30Wormy_His entire lunch consisted of Japanese brands, complete with the language.
22:45.35HachimanWormy_: So am I hur
22:45.41Hachimanohgod
22:45.46DrodoEmpiresighs
22:46.38Wormy_He must be getting this stuff from the internet or an Asian market
22:46.45MonetWOuldn't that cost a fortune?
22:46.51MonetAsian market probably
22:47.01HachimanThat reminds me
22:47.35MonetI have an Asian grocery over the orad from where I'm staying while at Uni and its filled with Oriental food brands.Thankfully in English though
22:48.26MonetI get the impression that digital media and illustration courses are drawing a lot of Japanophiles.
22:48.36HachimanAye of course it is
22:48.41HachimanI have a Japanophile in my class
22:49.28HachimanLong-haired, fat, collects nendoroids (basically figurines of moe anime characters), listens to Babymetal religiously, etc
22:49.33MonetOne guy I know has confessed to living off ramen.
22:49.41Wormy_Must be an important source of income lol
22:50.15Wormy_Monet:  Did you hear my first story about the weaboo
22:50.35MonetWormy_: You mean the one where al lhis folder titles were in Japanese?
22:50.52Wormy_yeah, which the software couldn't read lol
22:51.36MonetOur course leader is well alware of the Japan craze: During a presentation at the end of freshers he told us not to copy styles. And the picture onscreen was a classic Anime art style.
22:52.24Hachiman"Don't copy styles"
22:52.28HachimanThat's kinda dum advice
22:52.40HachimanIf you don't copy and replicate how do you expect yourself to expand as an artist
22:53.01MonetIn other words he prefers it if we develop our own artistic styles and methods.
22:53.23HachimanThat's fine but I think that replication and mirroring is necessary for an artist
22:53.33HachimanEspecially comic book artists and mangaka and the likes
22:54.03HachimanSo long as you can expand on that style to the point where it differentiates from the one you replicated originally
22:54.05MonetFor practice and for coming up with Ideas I guess, but for final pieces probably not.
22:54.10Wormy_Art style takes time to develop and often is in hindsight
22:54.14MonetExactly, expanding is fine.
22:54.29MonetBut dticking to a style someone else has done is not creative.
22:54.49Wormy_It is uninspired
22:55.08HachimanI agree completely
22:55.27Wormy_I'm getting creative tomorow and is making a poster for Station Halcyon with photoshop
22:56.23Wormy_I've sketched the interior...
22:56.34MonetInterior design? Nice
22:56.50HachimanA good example off the top of my head is Hirohiko Araki, the guy who came up with JoJo's Bizarre Adventure which inspired a TON of modern anime and manga; he was a fan of the Hokuto no Ken manga and his first editions of JJBA were based from the artstyle
22:56.57HachimanHokuto no Ken being Fist of the North Star
22:57.14HachimanFrom there he expanded outward to the point he developed his own unique and recognizeable style
22:57.20HachimanDue to self-improvement
23:01.00Hachimanhttp://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/672fec5169ed65f101d0e730fd3308fc/http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p126/ninja15_photo/JoJoprogression.jpg Here's a good example since it shows the evolution of his artstyle throughout his career
23:01.46HachimanAraki took primary artistic influence from Fist of the North Star but soon expanded after researching fashion and Italian culture and history
23:02.14Wormy_How does the artist know when the stop making a picture?
23:02.41Wormy_When complexity becomes too much?
23:02.54MonetI'd say it depends on the piece
23:03.09HachimanIt dpeends on the piece but it usually depends on how satisfied one is with it
23:03.27MonetI'm working on making thumbnails and composition pieces wihich are right and so are not expected to be super-detailed or have hours of work pured int othem because they're rough ideas
23:06.38MonetBut I guess knowing when there is enough details is soemthing you train into yourself
23:09.17Wormy_Sounds like an intuition of beauty
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23:10.51buildkirbyusHello!
23:10.51DrodoEmpireHello
23:11.25buildkirbyusI made some new vehicles for the Milla
23:11.27buildkirbyushttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001231025/spore/images/8/83/Gladiator_Flagship.png
23:11.34buildkirbyushttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141001231026/spore/images/a/a4/Inferno_Stategic_Bomber.png
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23:13.38HachimanNot bad
23:13.57Wormy_simple in form but original
23:14.55buildkirbyusyeah. I feel that their simplicity makes room for models that are speced for certain tasks
23:18.07TekDroid>.< The CAD program is free, and it shows. And the textbook keeps complaininh about it.
23:18.43Wormy_Try AutoCad, its free for students
23:18.58TekDroidI might just.
23:19.17TekDroidI spent 3 hours on this simple thing.
23:19.32DrodoEmpirehttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10385317_1495389450676988_5467965303397296326_n.jpg?oh=4144e9fd5ec0c36a7aad748d57c13fec&oe=54890216&__gda__=1421254982_51014f8066628944e01d688edc45e431
23:19.35TekDroidAnd there's 5 of them for the assignment.
23:20.05Wormy_The advantage of a popular program like AutoCad is the plethora of video tutorials
23:20.28TekDroidAnd I've used Auto CAD before
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