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00:26.20 | MasterMachine | Hello |
00:26.46 | MasterMachine | If anyone sees Vince tell him I'm very sorry for my inactivity, but college has turned out to be a god damn time hog -_- |
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00:55.37 | Angrybirds | Hey! |
00:56.20 | DrodoEmpire | runs up and hugs Angrybirds |
00:56.24 | DrodoEmpire | YOU'RE BACK! |
00:56.25 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
00:56.43 | Angrybirds | Hi@ :F |
00:56.48 | Angrybirds | Hi! :D* |
00:57.00 | Angrybirds | Wait. |
00:57.03 | Angrybirds | IRC is bugging on me. |
00:57.20 | DrodoEmpire | D: |
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00:57.41 | Angrybirds | The countryside of New England and New York (the state) is gorgeous. |
00:58.11 | OfficerJackal | Hey! :D |
00:58.22 | Angrybirds | Hey Jackal. ;) |
01:02.01 | Angrybirds | We're on a college tour, and I just come from a college which is spread out over kilometers on the bank of a river, surrounded only by pastures, small white houses, and a forest. |
01:02.30 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, nice |
01:02.42 | DrodoEmpire | I basically have that view every day. XD Gets boring after a while |
01:02.55 | DrodoEmpire | Seeing as I live on the edge of civilization; Nova Scotia. |
01:03.13 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
01:05.20 | Angrybirds | lol, it's less the view that appeals to me, but the peace. |
01:05.45 | DrodoEmpire | Ah. |
01:06.23 | Angrybirds | The peace, and the people. It's a college which is very much geared towards intellectuals who want to educate themselves rather than obsess over grades. |
01:06.51 | Angrybirds | And their theatre is simply AMAZING. |
01:07.09 | OfficerJackal | Cool! :D |
01:14.42 | Tek0516 | Angrybirds! |
01:15.22 | Tek0516 | :D |
01:18.18 | Tek0516 | ~test |
01:18.18 | infobot | methinks test is not funny |
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01:18.28 | Tek0516 | Hello |
01:18.34 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
01:18.39 | Knight_Alien | I am back. |
01:18.54 | Knight_Alien | From my Vanu Crusaidng :} |
01:19.01 | Angrybirds | Hey! ;) |
01:19.14 | Knight_Alien | Hello |
01:19.40 | Knight_Alien | We have been missing you. |
01:19.52 | Wormy_fic | Please read, me and Tybusen discussed it. Though it seems I turned into quite a macarbe and sad story http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Series_2/Preview#Recovering_Halcyon_B |
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02:01.32 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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02:13.36 | OfficerJackal | DrodoEmpire: Very, very, very belated loud and clear! :D |
02:13.42 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
02:13.43 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
02:14.03 | Gorzill | hi |
02:17.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
02:18.24 | Wormy_fic | Fab source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXNYyaGzs4 |
02:20.07 | Gorzill | That was rather disturbing. |
02:20.25 | Wormy_fic | They tell me much of the things I post are. |
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02:21.42 | Vincent20100 | HEy! |
02:24.25 | Vincent20100 | ... |
02:36.35 | Knight_Alien | Vincent MM wanted you to know he is sorry for not beinging on lately for Colledge is hoging his time. |
02:37.07 | Knight_Alien | Also Hi |
02:37.51 | Knight_Alien | Umm....Vincent20100? |
02:53.30 | Tek0516 | ~test |
02:53.31 | infobot | test is, like, not funny |
02:55.46 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
02:55.52 | Vincent20100 | thanks for the message, it's ok |
02:56.20 | Knight_Alien | Alright. |
03:02.03 | Vincent20100 | I would like to see a new Cold War happen on the fiction-verse |
03:02.31 | Vincent20100 | Like, divind the different empire within 2 or 3 Sphere of Influence, controlled each by a major or two major powers. |
03:02.38 | Vincent20100 | *empires |
03:04.00 | Vincent20100 | Like, the Republican Bloc, controlled by the New Cyrannian and all the empires in their Spheres VS the Imperialist Bloc with the DCP or Drodos and their Spheres of Influence. |
03:05.25 | Knight_Alien | The Cold war is kinda happening..... |
03:05.35 | Knight_Alien | In the Fiction universe. |
03:06.23 | Knight_Alien | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism A Imperium under seige for it's crimes , the many unite for Oppresio or Freedom. |
03:06.35 | Knight_Alien | *Opression* |
03:07.35 | Knight_Alien | So it is happening. |
03:08.08 | Knight_Alien | And if you really want a Cold war Iron curtain thing going on you could make it. |
03:10.30 | Knight_Alien | I would be up for it. |
03:11.00 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
03:11.04 | Vincent20100 | But the thing is,,, |
03:11.15 | Knight_Alien | ? |
03:11.16 | Vincent20100 | I'm kinda inclined to support the Civilization/DCP |
03:11.26 | Knight_Alien | How come? |
03:11.35 | Vincent20100 | I hate Drodos, but I still like France... |
03:12.08 | Knight_Alien | I will not Change your Mind but the DCP have been accused and have been proved to be using fear and acts of Genocide. |
03:12.23 | Knight_Alien | The Allies are not perfect them selves. |
03:13.07 | Knight_Alien | Some wish for War so they can get their greedy palms on land while others just want Judgment for the Dcp. |
03:13.32 | Vincent20100 | The thing is, the APR absolutly need to have access to the Galactic Core, controlled by the DCP and need the support of the Wartopia to destroy the Kiostrum Collective. |
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03:20.20 | Knight_Alien | Hi , my internet messed up. |
03:21.06 | Knight_Alien | But remember Vincent if the Allies win you will be shamed or Congradulated. And if the Dcp win you will be punished or Rewarded. |
03:22.56 | Knight_Alien | So their you are Vincent20100 , will you choose the Top hat or bowler? |
03:23.47 | Vincent20100 | Not sure |
03:23.59 | Vincent20100 | I'm negotiating with some powers right now |
03:24.34 | Knight_Alien | Will you put your Differences aside with the ''common rable'' or let your Hatred grow. |
03:25.21 | Vincent20100 | Knight = JEdi quotes right now |
03:26.15 | Knight_Alien | XD |
03:29.07 | Knight_Alien | The APR hate the Drodo? |
03:29.14 | Vincent20100 | Kinda |
03:29.20 | Vincent20100 | it's more me and Drodo had some... |
03:29.25 | Vincent20100 | .arguments... |
03:29.34 | Knight_Alien | The Person? |
03:30.54 | Knight_Alien | Ah. |
03:31.11 | Knight_Alien | Well not everyone can see eye to eye. |
03:31.45 | Knight_Alien | Or was it more ''Heavy Arguments''? |
03:32.27 | Vincent20100 | I think you were there Knight |
03:32.48 | Knight_Alien | Hmm. |
03:32.53 | Knight_Alien | Begins to think. |
03:34.06 | Knight_Alien | Ah. |
03:34.12 | Knight_Alien | The Ideal debate? |
03:34.29 | OfficerJackal | I think it was that, err... |
03:34.31 | Knight_Alien | Technocracy , I believe. |
03:34.32 | OfficerJackal | Yeah, maybe. |
03:34.42 | OfficerJackal | There might have been another one as well, I'm not sure. |
03:34.56 | Knight_Alien | Communism I think also. |
03:35.19 | OfficerJackal | But anyways, I believe that OOC relations shouldn't impact IC relations between nations, and that the IC fictions should have relations that reflect IC events/beliefs/ideals and etc. |
03:35.40 | OfficerJackal | Because putting OOC stuff into IC... Err... I've seen it first hand on some Gmod RP communities... |
03:35.44 | OfficerJackal | It doesn't really end well. :/ |
03:35.54 | Knight_Alien | Yeah , like that one time. |
03:36.34 | Knight_Alien | Well I don't have the same Ideals as Drodo , I have discussed Robotic Implants with them. |
03:37.07 | Knight_Alien | I dislike Implants overall , being in me and in return I found many people liked it. |
03:37.51 | Knight_Alien | So don't worry about that , I have discussed Religion also and it went well. |
03:38.38 | Knight_Alien | I think Drodo just doesn't like or Understand your philosophy , is all. |
03:39.15 | Tek0516 | 6.6GB of memory... I really overdo my image sizes. XD |
03:39.51 | Knight_Alien | x} |
03:40.23 | Tek0516 | Damnit, another crash. >.< |
03:40.53 | Knight_Alien | So Vincent20100 what do you think? |
03:41.15 | Vincent20100 | Well, here is my status |
03:41.29 | Vincent20100 | I have 2 alliances to honour |
03:41.47 | Vincent20100 | The one with the Civilization and the one of the Mou'Cyran Accords |
03:42.11 | Vincent20100 | The Mou'Cyran members lean toward supporting the Civilization (AKA the DCp) |
03:42.19 | Knight_Alien | Your in the Accords? |
03:42.24 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
03:42.45 | Knight_Alien | I used to be until it was erased from the universe. |
03:42.48 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mou%27Cyran_Accords |
03:42.57 | Vincent20100 | Check the members |
03:43.20 | Vincent20100 | APR even have a small paragraph for him |
03:43.28 | Vincent20100 | So here is the deal |
03:43.32 | Knight_Alien | ah. |
03:43.44 | Vincent20100 | IF the Mou'Cyran Accords officially join the DCp side, so will the APR |
03:44.02 | Vincent20100 | IF!!!! the Mou'Cyran decid to stay out of this one, so will we |
03:44.28 | Knight_Alien | The Accords are a Neutral Organization , what is this sides you speak of? |
03:44.32 | Vincent20100 | Basically, the APR choose rather to honor their obligations with the New Republic rather than the DCP |
03:44.46 | Knight_Alien | The Acords will once more dishonor their on goal. |
03:44.55 | Vincent20100 | Well, the Mou'Cyran are kinda the New Republic' Sphere of influence |
03:45.09 | Vincent20100 | They could support the DCp |
03:45.25 | Knight_Alien | But they are a Neutral Organization for peace. |
03:45.41 | Knight_Alien | Unless the Rpeublic is Dictating or COrrupting them. |
03:46.24 | Vincent20100 | Well... |
03:46.35 | Vincent20100 | OTAN too is suppose to assure @peace@ |
03:46.44 | Vincent20100 | Doesn't mean it's really the case... -_- |
03:47.08 | Vincent20100 | Well, the MCA are kinda the same way. They are kinda of the New Republic sphere in my eyes |
03:47.52 | OfficerJackal | Hmm, but yeah, the MCA going to war is HIGHLY unlikely, even if they are a bit slanted towards the DCP side kind of. The members have both OOC'ly and IC'ly stated that they do not really want to become involved in the Gigaquadrant Conflicts or the Xonexian Schism. |
03:48.08 | OfficerJackal | Trust me, there was a HUGE fight over that. |
03:48.25 | Knight_Alien | The Empire believes in Honoring things but if a Alliance is going down the path of dishonoring their own goal , we call them out on it. |
03:48.37 | Knight_Alien | It was a more of Civil war , not fight. |
03:49.11 | Knight_Alien | And since we called them out we were erased from the books of accrods forever. |
03:50.46 | Knight_Alien | All I am saying is , don't let a Neutral Alliance choose for you. |
03:51.15 | Knight_Alien | You may miss out on a oppertunity and may Regret your choice. |
03:52.35 | Knight_Alien | That is all I can mostly say. |
04:07.51 | Knight_Alien | Is eveyone still alive? |
04:08.04 | Knight_Alien | *Everyone* |
04:09.08 | OfficerJackal | Yep! But yeah, I agree with Knight_Alien, you can join the neutral alliance, but you might miss out on something. |
04:12.44 | Knight_Alien | You don't take losses but you won't get the spoils of war is all. |
04:13.05 | Knight_Alien | So if the APR are up for it then go for it. |
04:13.24 | Knight_Alien | But if their not then alright. |
04:23.35 | Vincent20100 | Well here it is |
04:23.48 | Vincent20100 | The APR officially left the Civilization |
04:24.31 | Vincent20100 | The Popular Republic is now officially within the Sphere of Influences of the NCR |
04:26.14 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Sphere_of_Influence_conflict |
04:27.33 | Vincent20100 | Knight_Alien take a look at it |
04:27.42 | OfficerJackal | <PROTECTED> |
04:27.44 | Vincent20100 | I uped the relation with the Eldarisian |
04:27.52 | Vincent20100 | From Neutral to Good |
04:28.12 | Knight_Alien | I see. |
04:28.23 | Knight_Alien | Well that is great. |
04:29.05 | Knight_Alien | Over all well done. |
04:29.18 | Vincent20100 | Basically, the way I see it from here is that the universe is spliting into 3 Blocs: The DCP with it's Civilization, the XA allies leaded by Orion, the Draco and the French |
04:29.24 | Vincent20100 | And the Imperials States |
04:29.47 | Knight_Alien | But if the Empire is now good with the Republic somthings DIplomaticly need to happen. |
04:29.56 | Knight_Alien | *Needs* |
04:30.18 | Knight_Alien | Embassy,Trade routes,Accepting Religion/CUlture and so on. |
04:34.00 | Vincent20100 | Yah... |
04:34.02 | Vincent20100 | We will see |
04:34.25 | Vincent20100 | I'm kinda grumpy about ...religion... |
04:34.53 | Knight_Alien | XD |
04:35.27 | Knight_Alien | Does the Republic have a Religion? |
04:35.39 | Vincent20100 | Nah! |
04:35.47 | Vincent20100 | It's an atheist republic |
04:35.59 | Knight_Alien | Ah. |
04:36.12 | Vincent20100 | But let's see... |
04:36.21 | Vincent20100 | We have vacation worlds... |
04:36.21 | Knight_Alien | Your Republic is very Technology based right? |
04:36.29 | Vincent20100 | Tourism? |
04:37.00 | Vincent20100 | Well, kinda |
04:37.07 | Knight_Alien | Tourism is very Big for the Empire , it is a chance to learn other CUltures and Societties. |
04:37.18 | Knight_Alien | It is a very big Income for the Empire. |
04:37.25 | Vincent20100 | ArchetypeShaman/Zealot/Scientist |
04:38.09 | Knight_Alien | But the Republic is a Technocracy? |
04:38.11 | Vincent20100 | The APR's archetype is mainly Zealot and Scientist |
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04:38.44 | Knight_Alien | Well then the Religion of Cuth isn't that bad after all , it is fine with Technology and science overall. |
04:38.54 | Vincent20100 | Scientist for their emphazis on specializations and Zealot for their ideological zeal |
04:39.22 | Vincent20100 | Well, let's see what can I accept... |
04:39.44 | Vincent20100 | I can accept temples being built on Vacation worlds first of all... |
04:39.49 | Vincent20100 | And let's see... |
04:40.09 | Knight_Alien | But the main Things the Empire does for Outsiders buying/selling wise is Tourism , Materials, Ships and weapons. |
04:40.27 | Knight_Alien | And they Give their Culture and Religion to those who want it. |
04:40.58 | Vincent20100 | Because it's not about that tech is compatible with religion, it's that accepting religon would not fit with the overall theme.,.. |
04:41.00 | Knight_Alien | The French Bunsen COlonies are a Prime Example. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Bunsen_Colonies#Religion |
04:41.47 | TekDroid | http://i.imgur.com/hFbLbJR.png Behold! |
04:42.09 | Vincent20100 | lol Tek |
04:42.16 | Knight_Alien | Katar Right? |
04:42.18 | Vincent20100 | Tek, which side are you in the Schism |
04:42.22 | Vincent20100 | ? |
04:42.28 | TekDroid | Xonexi. |
04:42.39 | Vincent20100 | Okay |
04:42.55 | Vincent20100 | I was leaning toward the DCp side, but I prefer stay neutral |
04:43.01 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Department_of_Foreign_Relations |
04:43.17 | Knight_Alien | Vincent The Religion of Cuth. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Religion_of_Cuth |
04:44.16 | Vincent20100 | I know, I'm searching how to make the acceptance of your religion with the overall theme of the APR |
04:47.40 | Vincent20100 | I will think about what I can do for Cuth |
04:47.48 | Vincent20100 | By I have to go to bed for now |
04:48.00 | Knight_Alien | Bye. |
04:48.54 | Vincent20100 | I will try to find a way we could get closer -_O |
04:48.58 | Vincent20100 | ++ |
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09:46.44 | Ghel | Hello. |
09:48.04 | Technobliterator | hii |
09:48.41 | Liquid_Ink | Hello, how are you? |
09:49.12 | Technobliterator | fine, you? |
09:53.35 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty good. |
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11:28.05 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
11:28.13 | Dazel | Hi. |
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11:33.59 | Wormy | hi |
11:34.05 | Wormy | ~seen Liquid_Ink |
11:34.06 | infobot | liquid_ink <79d016b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.22.185> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 53m 14s ago, saying: 'I heard the polls for Scottish independence were open?'. |
11:34.29 | Dazel | Isn't all ink liquid? |
11:34.46 | Wormy | Not if it dries out. |
11:34.56 | Dazel | Aha. |
11:39.15 | AdmiralPanda | you also have powdered calligraphy pigments, which can be considered ink but are applied dry |
11:40.54 | Wormy | fangirl screams |
11:41.10 | Wormy | David Deutsch a quantum physicist answered my question |
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11:45.19 | Ghel | Hello. |
11:46.07 | Wormy | "How will we shop in 2020?" |
11:46.12 | Wormy | Just as we do now... |
11:46.38 | Wormy | his answer https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/512345152161976321 |
11:46.49 | Wormy | Basically, he doesn't know lol |
11:48.36 | Wormy | Nothing new here really http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28461134 |
11:48.57 | Wormy | That could be built tomorrow. |
11:52.32 | Wormy | Ghel: I had a dream we, on SporeWiki were all in a supermarket. But we were in the 2nd dimension. Somehow, light would travel through the walls and isles and we could see around corners where planes warped around the third dimension. But then, we were all transformed into the third dimension. |
11:52.54 | Wormy | Xho was a demonic cow. |
11:53.12 | Wormy | I can't remember what everyon-else looked like in the third dimension. |
11:53.18 | Ghel | Xho being a demonic cow makes all kinds of sense. |
11:53.26 | Vincent20100 | What did I looked like? :) |
11:53.30 | Ghel | In particular, it would explain his manhandling of Cyr's AT-AT. |
11:53.46 | Wormy | lol |
11:55.37 | Knight_Alien | I problably looked like a suit of armor or a Eldarisian. |
11:57.26 | Wormy | Xho was the last thing I remember Vincent. |
11:57.44 | Dazel | Uh-Oh! |
11:57.47 | Dazel | You've been... |
11:57.49 | Dazel | EXCLUDED |
11:58.05 | Knight_Alien | Xhoism is in Wormies brain. |
11:59.31 | Wormy | Cult of the Cow |
11:59.53 | Knight_Alien | yeah XD |
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12:00.22 | Knight_Alien | I need to go. |
12:00.30 | Knight_Alien | bye |
12:08.57 | Vincent20100 | Hey Drom! |
12:11.04 | Vincent20100 | Hey Worm! |
12:20.33 | Wormy | hi |
12:24.38 | Vincent20100 | I saw the Schism thingy |
12:24.50 | Wormy | watuthink |
12:25.06 | Vincent20100 | I considered joining the DCP side honestly |
12:25.26 | Wormy | The DCP think they are in the right. |
12:25.45 | AdmiralPanda | very few people start something because they believe they are wrong :P |
12:25.49 | Vincent20100 | The DCP's ideology is also more "fitting" with ours |
12:26.04 | Wormy | I'd agree. The Alcanti Triad are like a group revolutionaries who want to break the order |
12:26.34 | Vincent20100 | On the other hand... We are right next to Drodo. ^^ |
12:26.39 | Vincent20100 | And France |
12:26.44 | Wormy | The DCP's methods are wrong though, and possibly becoming stagnant of which I'll hint. |
12:27.18 | Vincent20100 | I would basically feel like poking a beast with a tiny stick ^^ |
12:28.28 | Vincent20100 | And furthermore, I consider the APR to be more within the sphere of the Mou'Cyran Accords |
12:29.04 | Vincent20100 | Since it include the Naajikan, the Waptorians... |
12:29.37 | Wormy | The Alcanti Triad will end up regretting their pact. I can't reveal spoilers but its obvious wants happens when you provoke an already enraged DCP. |
12:31.27 | Vincent20100 | I don't see the Alcanti anywhere... |
12:32.16 | Wormy | Its the TIAF, Orion League and Draconis Imperium mainly |
12:32.29 | Wormy | *Draconid |
12:33.15 | Wormy | You see, the Orion War is really a game of chess between the DI and DCP |
12:33.31 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
12:33.52 | Vincent20100 | Well, the APR choosed to stay Loyal to the Cyrannian Republic first. |
12:34.02 | Wormy | Humanity and everyone-else being the pieces |
12:34.09 | Vincent20100 | Really? |
12:34.21 | Vincent20100 | I though Humanity and Drodo were kinda stronk |
12:34.34 | Wormy | They are chess too |
12:34.51 | Vincent20100 | Not as stronk as the DI? |
12:34.53 | Wormy | OL doesn't realise it fully but the DI are using them in a way |
12:35.29 | Wormy | The DI are much stronger than the Drodo, I'd say Drodo are about equal to France alone in size |
12:35.43 | Wormy | Thats the impression I got from France's relations page |
12:37.19 | Wormy | The DI are about equal in wealth and tech to the DCP (except some hyperspatial technologies), but far outnumbered by the DCP's sheer size and industrial might. The DCP after-all, forced a relentless fleet to attack the Dominatus in a monstrous victory that would cost most SporeWiki ciivs |
12:37.46 | Vincent20100 | I see |
12:38.09 | Wormy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Battle_of_the_Deathstorm |
12:38.19 | Wormy | That was the turning point of the DCP's front |
12:45.03 | Vincent20100 | I see |
12:45.43 | Vincent20100 | Well Wormy, do you think the DCP has what it takes ti win this fight? |
12:48.16 | Wormy | The DCP won't win the GXS/Gigaquadrant Conflicts in the long run, they become the victim as much as everyone else involved, that's no spoiler. But as I said, the Alcanti Triad will regret their pact. |
12:48.41 | Wormy | The Orion War and Mirus campaign is the first part |
12:49.07 | Wormy | And then the war extends to other galaxies and everybody is devastated |
12:49.24 | Wormy | Otherwise known as the Shattering |
12:50.09 | AdmiralPanda | well, the Shattering more has to do with the literal shattering of the hyperspace lanes going through Andromeda |
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12:50.29 | Wormy | Me and Monet have discussed crossover though |
12:51.02 | AdmiralPanda | Oh yeah, I'm just clarifying because the way you phrased it implied that what you described was the full extent of the Shattering |
12:51.10 | Wormy | The Milky Way's lanes and infrastructure, and space in-between it and Andromeda may become no-go areas too |
12:51.15 | Vincent20100 | Well, on my side, the APR's allegiance ultimatly goes to the Mou'Cyran Accords, and therefor to the Nex Republic. We will follow them in whatever decision concerning this war is |
12:51.49 | AdmiralPanda | Fortunately for everybody involved, the Fordanta are busy murdering people already |
12:51.56 | Wormy | The clever people are the ones in Mou'Cyran Accords |
12:52.17 | Vincent20100 | *New |
12:52.28 | Wormy | They will be the shining beacon of what was left before |
12:52.58 | Vincent20100 | I just hopes the Libertus have what it takes to stand up |
12:54.49 | Wormy | There isn't actually an end planned to this fiction, well I do have the DCP's penultimate story but that doesn't solve how the crisis ends |
12:55.31 | Vincent20100 | I see |
12:55.51 | Vincent20100 | I just love how the universe is splitting into 3 Blocs |
12:56.00 | Wormy | The hyperspatial aliens idea would probably come into effect at that point. Though it is a seperate fiction, the consequences of both the War, the aliens and the Shattering will be really interesting. |
12:58.13 | Wormy | I will also want to re-introduce Station Halcyon |
12:58.26 | Wormy | Which will play interesting roles I hope |
12:59.11 | Wormy | As usual, I'm over-burdened with stories http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Scrapbook#Planner |
13:00.50 | Vincent20100 | But to what I understood, the New Republic was kinda leaning toward supporting the DCP, no? |
13:01.23 | Wormy | Maybe, but their solution is different. |
13:02.10 | Wormy | Both the DCP and Republic discussed the ongoing calamities before setting up the Accords, no-one really knows what the enemy is. |
13:02.29 | Wormy | The Republic's response is create a neutrality haven |
13:03.00 | Wormy | The DCP's is to seek out and fight that enemy. They recognise something is wrong and become increasingly heavy handed. |
13:03.37 | Wormy | They too have been played by whatever force/forces are causing all these events. They too are a victim I guess. |
13:03.55 | Vincent20100 | Maybe |
13:06.11 | Vincent20100 | Personally Wormy, I would like if you could cripple Drodo EMpire ^^ |
13:06.27 | Vincent20100 | I want my Republic to get the upper hand on the Arm Market |
13:06.53 | Vincent20100 | France, APR and Drodo are like the 3 main manufacturer on the market |
13:07.39 | Vincent20100 | If France and Drodo, especially Drodo, could be cripple, I could get their shares. ^^ |
13:08.31 | Wormy | Fantastic plot, unfortunately, it will be archived. |
13:08.39 | Wormy | by the logs |
13:08.51 | Wormy | I do my plotting on another chatroom :P |
13:09.26 | Wormy | We'll see, I haven't really discussed the role of the Katar Sector |
13:09.55 | Wormy | The Drodo may leap to aid their allies, but all of this is up to DrodoEmpire. |
13:10.00 | Vincent20100 | Archived... Is there really someone reading the Archives? -_- |
13:10.28 | AdmiralPanda | most users really |
13:10.52 | Wormy | aye |
13:11.04 | Vincent20100 | ... |
13:12.00 | Vincent20100 | Anyway Worm, here is my idea. I leave you with it ^^ |
13:12.30 | Wormy | okay |
13:13.09 | AdmiralPanda | hmm, I just realised something |
13:13.37 | AdmiralPanda | the Fordanta have colonies in the Milky Way and Borealis, the Quadrants, and possibly even Cyrannus |
13:14.11 | AdmiralPanda | there isn't much stopping them from expanding their plan from the Ko'Sa'Va sector to their territories across the gigaquadrant |
13:14.47 | OluapWorker | Keep Borealis out of this |
13:15.21 | AdmiralPanda | That was a tad aggressive |
13:15.25 | AdmiralPanda | but no problem |
13:17.13 | Wormy | I don't think Panda's plans involve the GXS |
13:17.39 | OluapWorker | And you don't have colonies in it as far as I'm aware |
13:17.53 | AdmiralPanda | I thought they did, my mistake then |
13:18.07 | AdmiralPanda | and my plans don't involve gxs |
13:19.12 | OluapWorker | They can have some if you want, but I don't want any Shattering-related fiction in it |
13:19.35 | AdmiralPanda | in that case don't bother, because the plans do very much involve the shattering |
13:20.00 | OluapWorker | Suit yourself |
13:20.34 | AdmiralPanda | it's quite hard to randomly justify their actions not extending to one specific cluster of colonies |
13:24.02 | AdmiralPanda | not that it changes anything, but the basic pretext of the arc is slapping the gigaquadrant in the face with the fact that the Fordan military goes straight to genocide, and asking "How do you feel about this?" |
13:24.57 | OluapWorker | And I'm not willing to let someone genocide Borealis, so you may know why I don't want it involved in this |
13:25.22 | AdmiralPanda | To be honest, I didn't doubt for a second you'd say no |
13:26.20 | AdmiralPanda | it just struck me as the kind of thing you'd shut down, even if the targets of the genocide are mooks that exist purely for the reason of being genocided |
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13:51.31 | Hachiman | hAI |
13:51.34 | Hachiman | Woops caps |
13:51.35 | OluapWorker | hai |
13:51.42 | OluapWorker | You're home early today |
13:51.47 | Hachiman | OluapWorker: Your Erylia look fantastic |
13:51.55 | Hachiman | And yeah because I finished a math test early |
13:51.57 | OluapWorker | :> |
13:52.11 | Hachiman | Fucking hate maths, probably failed it but meh |
13:52.20 | OluapWorker | hur |
13:52.39 | OluapWorker | The new picture of Filonan and Daggis together is probably my favorite thing i've done in a while |
13:52.59 | Hachiman | I love Filonan's posing |
13:53.10 | Hachiman | Her hair is also really nice |
13:53.19 | OluapWorker | She's supposed to be resting on Daggis' chest |
13:53.33 | Hachiman | Aye I can tell she's leaning |
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13:56.15 | OluapWorker_ | Wow rude |
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13:57.03 | Wormy | So I was listening to Skyrim music |
13:57.13 | Wormy | And my Mum tells me its hippy music |
13:57.16 | Wormy | WTF |
13:57.26 | Hachiman | hur |
13:57.32 | Wormy | Because its about dragons and being a hero |
13:57.59 | Wormy | I protested that Dovahekiin slays dragons rather than loves them, but no avail |
13:58.05 | Wormy | "My son likes hippy music" |
13:59.35 | Wormy_laptop | Skyrim has died little today |
13:59.44 | Wormy_laptop | in me |
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14:06.16 | Jepardi | Hi |
14:06.35 | Dazel | Hello. |
14:24.50 | Wormy | Hachiman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc.com/earth/bespoke/story/20140908-twisted-world-of-sexual-organs/index.html |
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14:56.45 | OluapWorker | Goddamnit |
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15:18.37 | drom | Goddamnum, Vincent is not here. |
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15:25.20 | Vincent20100 | Hey! |
15:25.33 | drom | Goose |
15:29.44 | Vincent20100 | Well |
15:29.50 | Vincent20100 | HAve you seen the edits I made? |
15:30.14 | drom | Yup. |
15:32.36 | drom | I'm disconcerned with the year dates. |
15:32.44 | Vincent20100 | Yah... |
15:32.57 | Vincent20100 | I tried to made the project like it was spray over time... |
15:33.14 | Vincent20100 | It is all editable |
15:35.36 | drom | I'm going to change it to 2803 and the last date to either 2805, 2806. |
15:35.45 | drom | Cause tier2-3 and the time flies fast. |
15:36.28 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
15:37.14 | drom | It will be like 2804 around November-December this year. |
15:37.51 | Vincent20100 | You can make it end sooner, like in 2801 |
15:37.58 | Vincent20100 | By making the project start earlier |
15:38.17 | drom | I guess that the fictionverse years go 5-10 years each earth year. |
15:39.12 | Vincent20100 | That's also my guess |
16:00.11 | Vincent20100 | I added a new thing on the market |
16:00.23 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Firearms |
16:00.33 | Vincent20100 | The Revolted 2. The page link is working |
16:01.35 | drom | Anyone got suggestions for a virus disease besides history and applications? |
16:01.54 | Vincent20100 | What do you mean? |
16:02.25 | drom | Suggestions for more sections |
16:02.26 | drom | and content |
16:03.17 | drom | Hm. Effects? |
16:03.46 | Vincent20100 | We already discussed it's effect, about how it work |
16:04.11 | drom | How it affects Aemonkians and other species. |
16:04.35 | Vincent20100 | Well, we said it fed on Marrow bone, forcing stem cell to adapt and produce more |
16:05.05 | drom | Yes. I know already. I was asking about how the page should be divided in. |
16:05.13 | Vincent20100 | Well... |
16:05.29 | Vincent20100 | Applications includ it's use as bio-weapon? |
16:05.42 | drom | Alas, yup. |
16:05.50 | Vincent20100 | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140917170332/spore/images/d/d3/Revolted_2.png |
16:06.15 | Vincent20100 | The right picture show it's small pull-up ^^ |
16:06.37 | drom | Algolurn's economy really realies on export? |
16:06.43 | Vincent20100 | Kinda |
16:07.25 | Vincent20100 | It export mainly pharmaceutical stuff, electronic and computering stuff and weapons |
16:08.10 | Vincent20100 | Because I love making weapons model on spore ^^ |
16:09.04 | Vincent20100 | For the virus well... |
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16:10.14 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
16:10.55 | drom | Hai |
16:11.04 | drom | oh no, something bad is happening with my stomach |
16:11.07 | drom | bai bai |
16:11.20 | Vincent20100 | The Rocket is ready to lift off Drom! |
16:12.02 | Vincent20100 | Hi Randomness |
16:12.10 | Vincent20100 | I think we never really talked togheter |
16:12.45 | The_Randomness | I don't think we have talked much, so you're probably right there |
16:13.10 | Vincent20100 | What is your fiction? |
16:13.44 | The_Randomness | Salsetthe Republic, although I've been inactive a lot and so most of it is still a WIP |
16:14.09 | Vincent20100 | I will take a look |
16:14.32 | Vincent20100 | Ho! |
16:14.39 | Vincent20100 | I already seen that logo |
16:14.43 | Vincent20100 | Mou'Cyran Accords? |
16:15.12 | The_Randomness | Yes |
16:17.06 | Vincent20100 | Here, I have added the basis for the Relations section |
16:17.31 | The_Randomness | What did you just do? |
16:18.06 | The_Randomness | If Recentchanges didn't crash my phone browser I would check that. |
16:19.27 | Vincent20100 | ... |
16:19.32 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Salsetthe_Republic#Relations_with_other_Empires |
16:20.18 | The_Randomness | That is mine to add, not yours, and I know very well how others do it. |
16:21.03 | Vincent20100 | My bad |
16:21.29 | Vincent20100 | Here |
16:23.09 | Hachiman | Ugh it's so hot for September |
16:23.14 | Hachiman | Should be cold by now |
16:23.16 | Wormy | ^ |
16:23.22 | Wormy | Indian Summer |
16:23.46 | The_Randomness | Vincent20100: Have you undone your addition? |
16:24.02 | Vincent20100 | yah |
16:24.09 | The_Randomness | Good |
16:24.12 | Vincent20100 | :) |
16:25.14 | Wormy | y u keep deleting dcp quote |
16:26.30 | The_Randomness | Not my fault, I think. |
16:26.53 | drom | Vincent20100: You wanted something about the virus? |
16:27.41 | Vincent20100 | No, you're editing it drom? |
16:27.57 | drom | Done. |
16:28.10 | Vincent20100 | I will take a look. |
16:28.16 | drom | Not so much content to add. Because I'm not really in the mood to write much today. |
16:28.33 | Vincent20100 | ok |
16:28.41 | drom | But I'm still on the mood to talk and I'm very happy to answer to questions. |
16:30.53 | drom | Vincent20100: Lemme add my fiction's icon too. |
16:31.05 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
16:31.22 | Vincent20100 | You can just give me the link to your flag and i will add it |
16:32.43 | Wormy | Reminds of that scene in Hot Fuzz http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29249537 |
16:34.09 | drom | Vincent20100: Yoink! |
16:34.35 | Vincent20100 | Your logo is bigger than mine! |
16:35.36 | Vincent20100 | It is all about the size! People saying otherwize just have a tiny one! |
16:36.33 | drom | At least it wasn't my dong this time. |
16:37.38 | Vincent20100 | :p |
16:38.13 | Vincent20100 | Trying to deisgn a torpedo on spore..., |
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16:40.39 | drom | Hello. |
16:40.39 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10653579_1519234088293661_7176611501750247338_n.jpg?oh=223ffbe7639f999820a47dfd5733d92f&oe=5490A67A&__gda__=1422116112_badf5ecbf2120a095436851d0e96a942 |
16:40.41 | Hachiman | Hai |
16:40.43 | Monet | Hello |
16:41.29 | Monet | drom: Just saw the page for RI-1. If you guys need advice with viral agents or gene therapy I'd be happy to help out. |
16:41.53 | The_Randomness | Hey Monet |
16:42.17 | drom | Thanks for the offer Monet. We'll look into it. |
16:43.08 | drom | It's basically a virus designed to force an evolution for Aemokians. But it provides to be fatal for other species. As it firstly targets and attacks the lungs and the bone marrow. |
16:44.16 | Vincent20100 | Love the pict btw? |
16:44.29 | Monet | Oh yeah it's amazing |
16:44.51 | Hachiman | So an engineered vrius that is designed to enhance one species while negatively afflicting all others despite the Aemons being isolationists that don't know anything about alien physiology and biology up-close |
16:44.55 | Hachiman | *virus |
16:44.57 | Vincent20100 | I took it from Plague Inc |
16:45.40 | The_Randomness | I personally doubt the viability of such a virus |
16:46.05 | Vincent20100 | They sent us dead bodies and some criminals to test on them |
16:46.47 | Monet | Hachiman: I'd say you may have point there. Unless there's a specific genetic marker within the Aemorkian genome that keeps them utations controlled. |
16:47.08 | The_Randomness | On Earth viruses are able to be transferred from species to species on occasion because they're relatively similar genetically. A virus that could affect species from different planets is almost impossible. |
16:47.22 | Monet | Actually yes. |
16:48.14 | Wormy | I have to agree with Random |
16:48.23 | Vincent20100 | Well honestly, there are several things on spore wiki that wouldn't work in reality |
16:48.31 | The_Randomness | That's beside the point |
16:48.47 | Monet | An alien disease from another tree of life is unlikely to affect us because its so...alien. |
16:48.58 | The_Randomness | ^ |
16:49.09 | Hachiman | If you're on about Essence, it's magic so we ain't gotta explain shit |
16:49.13 | Monet | Even something as disparant as a plant is still, what, sharing 50% of its genes with humans? |
16:49.18 | Wormy | Well, better could be done. It could be a form of nanotechnology, or even bionano that can morph into effecting alien biochemistry and structures. |
16:49.20 | Monet | disprate* |
16:49.39 | Vincent20100 | Guys, this virus has no background, it was artificially created |
16:49.47 | Vincent20100 | The DNA of it was made from scrathc |
16:49.51 | Hachiman | That's also beside the point |
16:49.52 | Vincent20100 | *scratch |
16:50.02 | Wormy | Who says all aliens use DNA the way we do |
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16:50.08 | The_Randomness | A biological disease still has these limitations |
16:50.19 | Wormy | Or that their cells can receive the shape of the virus |
16:50.27 | Vincent20100 | That mean it isn't alien to anything particular |
16:50.34 | Monet | There are aliens on the wiki whose DNA is not made up of a hydrocarbon compound - like silicon-based life. |
16:50.44 | Vincent20100 | It was designed specially for them using their own bodies |
16:50.58 | Monet | The virus will definitely still work to enhance the Aemons |
16:51.04 | Wormy | I suggest, that it isn't a virus in the sense of Earth's kind. But smarter and more technological. |
16:51.17 | Monet | But its very likely will do absolutely nothing to an alien host unles its an Aemon hybrid. |
16:51.24 | Vincent20100 | I agree with Monet |
16:51.48 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10438557_1056248684404584_7629214254074509972_n.jpg?oh=165253dd6f961cc157f0f10bba9adf44&oe=548DB953&__gda__=1418968024_b7ff049925a1cf53d36085e972b5dd50 I don't usually post these but this is clever |
16:51.55 | Wormy | A virus requires a specific environment for them to replicate in. It won't replicate in anything-else like a pool of mud. |
16:52.06 | Monet | Maybe it doesn't have to be a combination biological weapon and super-soldier-serum? |
16:52.16 | Vincent20100 | Wrote on the Fur |
16:52.40 | Vincent20100 | ^ Hachi |
16:53.04 | Vincent20100 | Specific environment is the Aekomon bodie or specific labs conditions |
16:53.05 | Monet | I see a tiger-like thing in the bamboo on the right. |
16:53.46 | Vincent20100 | Monet, it is wrote on it's fur |
16:54.03 | Monet | rolls eyes |
16:54.07 | Wormy | Maybe the fact is, is that it is hidden |
16:54.08 | Monet | "hidden tiger" |
16:54.10 | Vincent20100 | So yah, I can agree it may not be used for bio-weapons |
16:54.16 | The_Randomness | Heh |
16:54.17 | Vincent20100 | The Hidden Tiger |
16:54.31 | Vincent20100 | THE is even wrote |
16:55.05 | Wormy | I read it, but I couldn't see "Tiger", I saw The Hidden |
16:55.15 | Vincent20100 | Tiger goes on it's legs |
16:55.18 | Wormy | So I was still looking |
16:55.19 | Monet | How is it able ot be distributed? |
16:55.27 | The_Randomness | I was looking everywhere but on the tiger hur |
16:55.27 | Wormy | duh |
16:55.32 | Vincent20100 | It is injected at birth |
16:55.52 | Vincent20100 | OR transmitted by parents |
16:56.23 | Monet | Right, so the modifications are controlled by the level of injection and when the host is still a newborn? |
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16:59.35 | The_Randomness | I must be going, see you guys later |
17:00.00 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
17:00.01 | Vincent20100 | HERE |
17:00.08 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:RI-1 |
17:00.08 | Monet | That's a good time really, it's the best point to allow to a host to grow into their enhancements. Second to insemination of the enhanced genome while the baby is a cluster of eggs |
17:00.18 | Vincent20100 | I added specifications concerning the Creation |
17:01.35 | Monet | Theoretically any disease natural to the Aemons would have a resistence ot the acid blood. |
17:02.04 | Vincent20100 | yah, but since this one was made from scratch, it had to be inserted into the desease gene by scientist |
17:02.09 | Monet | Actually that's one of the drawback to acid blood - both blood cells and foreign microbes will have developed adaptations in order ot survive. |
17:02.26 | Monet | For native diseases |
17:02.30 | Vincent20100 | That's the bonus of the virus |
17:02.46 | Hachiman | Virus |
17:02.51 | Hachiman | Is it actually contagious |
17:02.54 | Vincent20100 | It will feed on Marrow bone, forcing the Stem cell to reproduce faster and therefor making more blood cells |
17:03.03 | Vincent20100 | Contagious for who? |
17:03.13 | Vincent20100 | It's injected at birth inthe Aemonkians |
17:03.25 | Monet | Hachiman: By the sounds of it not really. Which is possible |
17:03.29 | Hachiman | Then it's not a virus if it's not contagious among them |
17:03.41 | Ghelaway | A virus doesn't have to be contagious, but those that aren't tend to die out in the wild. |
17:03.57 | drom | Depends on ways of tranferring. But it's not that contagious. But it can provide to be contagious, as it will mutate in an non-targeted body. |
17:04.05 | Vincent20100 | It is contagious, but they will be purposly infested at birth so, the will not get the desease over the years |
17:04.08 | Monet | Actually it could still be congagious within cells, most viruses require some kind of adaptation in order to survive outside a living body. |
17:04.20 | Hachiman | It's not contagious, it's not malignant, it's not a virus |
17:04.31 | Vincent20100 | It is contagious. -_- |
17:04.38 | Hachiman | You just said it wasn't |
17:04.46 | Vincent20100 | If it was infected to only 1 dude, it would spread |
17:04.53 | Vincent20100 | But it's not 1 dude |
17:05.01 | Vincent20100 | Everybody will be injected it |
17:05.01 | Ghelaway | What's important for a virus is that it reproduces inside living cells (and isn't a cell itself), but if it is contagious then the whole point is moot. |
17:05.01 | Monet | A virus is primarily classified as a shell of protein encased around a strand of RNA that reproduces via parasitism. |
17:05.04 | drom | Virus doesn't have to be contagious. |
17:05.29 | Vincent20100 | If everybody is infected, than who does the virus has to contage? |
17:07.06 | drom | Pathogen is also an sort of RNA-organism? |
17:07.10 | Monet | This virus could simpl lack the genes to survive outside of a living organism, which is entirely possible given the artificial anture. |
17:07.34 | Monet | drom: Pathogen = any disease-causing microbe |
17:07.48 | drom | Dayum. |
17:07.51 | Vincent20100 | Hachi: like Meningitis |
17:07.57 | Vincent20100 | Meningitis is a virus |
17:08.18 | Wormy | I could see the engineered virus mutating and becoming contagious, but I get the impression that it wouldn't matter if it infected people if evereybody had it. |
17:08.29 | Vincent20100 | But if everybody on earth was purposly injected Meningitis (for somne reason) than who would be contagiate? |
17:08.34 | Wormy | In normal circumstance |
17:08.49 | Monet | Also regarding this idea of the DNA being built from scratch: Perhaps it would be easier and cheaper to modify an existing Aemon genotype than try and construct the entire DNA sequence form scratch. |
17:08.58 | drom | Is there DNA-based pathogenes? |
17:09.01 | Wormy | It could still spread though, it just wouldn't be visible unless it mutated. |
17:09.39 | Ghel | drom: All pathogens besides RNA viruses use DNA. |
17:10.08 | Vincent20100 | Can we also assume guys that all sentient specie on the wiki use DNA? |
17:10.13 | Vincent20100 | Except maybe machines |
17:10.14 | Monet | The human genome contains, what, exactly 3 billion genes? |
17:10.15 | Ghel | No, not all of them. |
17:10.24 | Wormy | Well, there's prions if you are willing to define them as pathogenic. |
17:10.24 | Ghel | Although perhaps a majority do. |
17:10.31 | Vincent20100 | Ok |
17:10.36 | Vincent20100 | That good enough |
17:10.45 | Vincent20100 | So we will assume Aemonkian use DNA |
17:10.47 | Ghel | Obviously, non-carbon-based organisms can't use DNA. |
17:11.00 | Vincent20100 | Yah... |
17:11.03 | Hachiman | It's likely that alien DNA is also probably so distant from what it is you're trying to implement that it won't be effective |
17:11.14 | Hachiman | Aside from on Aemons |
17:11.28 | Vincent20100 | Well, true |
17:11.37 | Monet | Vincent20100: Even if all lifeforms have DNA, there's a likely chance that they are incompatible. |
17:11.38 | Vincent20100 | We may have to forget the idea of bio-weaponize it. |
17:12.10 | Monet | Yeah it seems like a strange addition to me. |
17:12.18 | Ghel | Even if there were panspermia and all DNA-using organisms use similar enough DNA, use as a bioweapon isn't very feasible anyway. |
17:12.36 | Monet | Bioweapons are very messy. |
17:12.37 | Vincent20100 | Panspermia = travelling in sperme? o_O |
17:12.54 | Hachiman | "Oh this thing increases all the strengths of my species and because it's viral it automatically kills everything else" also sounds incredibly Sue-ish |
17:12.57 | Ghel | Panspermia = life across the universe shares a common origin. |
17:13.39 | Vincent20100 | I see.. ^^ |
17:13.50 | Monet | The US and USSR tried developing bioweapons against each other during the COld War, but both largely gave up on the idea of using them when they realised that these bioweapons were as likely to massacre their own peple as well as the enemy nation. |
17:14.08 | Vincent20100 | I see |
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17:15.17 | Wormy | Did I K-line? |
17:15.53 | Wormy | Anyway, I was about to say, there is always some chance a virus could mutate. |
17:15.59 | Monet | " The acid blood of the specie was a problem solved by making the virus cloak itself in it's own "bubble environment" when travelling through blood. " >> I'd say this problem could be solved via giving te virus a mucus layer of some kind. |
17:16.24 | Vincent20100 | That was kinda of the idea here |
17:16.26 | Wormy | Of course, you don't have to use virus's like they exist in the biosphere/ |
17:16.28 | drom | It doesn't have to be a RNA virus. |
17:16.35 | Vincent20100 | That it surrunded itself in something |
17:16.37 | drom | Or the DNA kind. |
17:16.43 | Ghel | Wormy: Possibility of mutation would be a good reason to make it non-infectious. |
17:16.50 | Wormy | yes |
17:16.56 | Monet | stomach walls are protected from their own acids by a lining of mucus. |
17:17.10 | Wormy | I wouldn't accept nanomedicine that could replicate itself |
17:17.17 | Wormy | lol |
17:17.33 | Vincent20100 | mucus or muccus? |
17:17.54 | Monet | mucus |
17:17.59 | Vincent20100 | Aren't we accepting nanorobots self-rplicating already? |
17:18.13 | drom | There's "nanities" too. |
17:18.21 | Wormy | I have an idea about transmission |
17:18.22 | Ghel | Wormy's saying that if it existed in real life, he wouldn't want any inside his body. |
17:18.38 | Vincent20100 | Ho okay |
17:19.11 | Ghel | The alternative but similarly high-tech method being artificial stem cells which mass-produce the bots. |
17:19.44 | Wormy | Perhaps the virus only replicates itself in a bacterium, and the bacterium only lives in the body for a certain time period. That could still mutate but might be easier to treat. |
17:20.30 | Wormy | Ghel: I'd have nanotech in my body, just not ones that build themselves, they might glitch up |
17:20.33 | Monet | Viruses don't just affect eukaryotic cells, yes |
17:21.11 | Wormy | Well phage therapy uses a virus that kills infectiious bacteria, now such a virus is extremely unlikely to jump the gap. |
17:21.24 | Ghel | You've still got to get the viral DNA (or equivalent compound) inside the Aemonkian cells, though. |
17:22.09 | Wormy | What if it doesn't do anything to the cells? And controls symbiotic bacteria? |
17:22.11 | drom | There's still the alternative of stasis treatments. |
17:22.21 | Wormy | Then again thats more like using nanites |
17:22.40 | Monet | Ghel: Maybe the virus is programmed ot affect both bacteria and body cells? |
17:23.11 | Monet | Wait |
17:23.21 | drom | Didn't the blue aliens from SG-U use a pathogene to transform Nicole to one of them? |
17:23.48 | Wormy | I only vaguely remember SQ-U |
17:23.51 | Wormy | SG |
17:24.10 | Wormy | SG1 is the best |
17:24.10 | Monet | drom said that this virus initially attacks bone marrow and lungs. Maybe Aemon blood cells get converted into carriers-s-lash-virus-factories? |
17:24.34 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
17:25.38 | Wormy | My suggestion was to use a bacterium that does the job, only when the virus is injected. But then... Horizontal gene transfer between different bacteria. Its also very complicted vs. an injection of nanites |
17:26.05 | Wormy | What if the nanites construct a biological factory in the body, and are never required again? |
17:26.31 | Monet | I was going to say, adminsitration i nthe correct places is another question |
17:26.37 | drom | The idea behind attacking the lungs as one of the two first was to make them amphibious os they can breath in stasis liquid. But it's also been a great choice, since the modified blood cells -virus carriers- will flow among outthrought the system. |
17:29.09 | Ghel | The bone marrow would make a good virus factory, modifying/adding to its repertoire of blood cells, so in that case it might produce several distinct types of viruses, which each target different tissues and organs. |
17:30.30 | drom | The infected cells doesn't have to work like what Earth's viruses do to our cells. |
17:30.48 | drom | Though, for a good effect, it had to work like that in the first phase. |
17:30.59 | Ghel | What I'm thinking of is that specialisation is better than generalisation for cells. |
17:31.10 | Ghel | So the initial injection would convert the bone marrow. |
17:31.26 | drom | Until the modified organs are able to produce cells that transmit the new dna to other cells without killing them or turning them into virus factories. |
17:31.28 | Ghel | Then the bone marrow produces other cells or viruses, some of which - for example - go on to modify the lungs. |
17:31.30 | Wormy | If those highly specialised niches are very strong, any mutations might actually die off quickly |
17:32.15 | Monet | This is why I suggested it could be made by modifying an existing Aemon genome, rather than making a new DNA strand completely fro mscratch |
17:38.02 | Monet | Thinking about it...inserting what could be entirely new clusters of genes is pretty advanced stuff. |
17:38.16 | Monet | Feisable, but advanced. |
17:38.52 | Wormy | Oh yes, check this out http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Series_2/Preview#Recovering_Halcyon_B |
17:39.07 | Wormy | Gets a bit sad and macabre at the end |
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17:39.27 | Monet | I'd say that creating a new DNA molecule from scratch is a step above creating extremely modified present genomes. |
17:39.36 | Wormy | hi |
17:41.51 | Vincent20100 | MOent, we are in the space age I mean... |
17:41.56 | Vincent20100 | It's still possible |
17:42.00 | Vincent20100 | *Monet |
17:43.01 | Monet | I'm not saying it isn't. |
17:43.01 | Ghel | It's possible, although you'd realistically use already-existing DNA sequences whenever reasonable. Of course, if no known proteins are of any use for the virus's purpose, then you'd have to do the whole thing from scratch. |
17:43.14 | Wormy | 'murika https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-lmcdlq4A |
17:43.43 | Monet | Ghel: For a project like this we'd be looking at some realy exotic modifications |
17:44.28 | Ghel | Hence there might not be many natural proteins that are useful for it. |
17:45.17 | Monet | I mean in order to warrant such a path |
17:45.40 | Ghel | Ah, I see. |
17:45.40 | Monet | Stuff like amphibious breathing must be findable in nature. |
17:46.50 | Wormy | Weren't they able to access ancient genes in chickens? Making them grow teeth and long claws? |
17:47.37 | Monet | Something like that |
17:47.38 | Ghel | I can't remember whether it's been done, but it should certainly be possible. |
17:47.48 | Monet | Or we're working towards that |
17:48.23 | Ghel | Which is another sort of thing RI-1 could do: cause epigenetic changes, not just genetic modification. |
17:48.23 | Monet | I mentioned the other day at the Ta could have modified themselves via this kind of artificial atavism. |
17:48.27 | Wormy | http://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_building_a_dinosaur_from_a_chicken?language=en |
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18:02.08 | Vincent20100 | By the way guys |
18:02.09 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Revolted_2 |
18:02.18 | Vincent20100 | Tell me what you think of this! |
18:02.46 | TekDroid | Hello |
18:02.49 | Vincent20100 | Hey |
18:03.59 | Monet | That's a pretty good gun made withi nthe creator |
18:04.23 | Vincent20100 | yah |
18:04.29 | Vincent20100 | the gun on the right |
18:04.43 | Vincent20100 | I add a small pullback |
18:04.56 | Monet | "The Revolted 1 use expansive to manufacture thick bullets of 5.53Ã55mm" what does it mean by expansive? |
18:05.19 | Vincent20100 | The bullet cost a lot to manufacture |
18:05.27 | TekDroid | expensive. |
18:05.34 | Vincent20100 | My bad |
18:05.49 | Vincent20100 | Can you correct this type plz? ^^ |
18:06.21 | Vincent20100 | Done |
18:06.49 | Vincent20100 | thx |
18:07.00 | Vincent20100 | I will corect it on the other places |
18:08.05 | Vincent20100 | There. |
18:08.13 | Vincent20100 | That make more sense now |
18:09.29 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Firearms |
18:13.36 | Vincent20100 | I have to go guys |
18:13.41 | Vincent20100 | See you later? |
18:14.17 | Monet | Okay |
18:14.21 | Monet | Dat Klak L30 |
18:14.31 | Vincent20100 | I love it too ^^ |
18:15.31 | Monet | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_of_the_Future my mind has been blown reading this book over the past few days. |
18:16.00 | Monet | The sort of stuff we may get over the next 50, let alone 100 years is surprising |
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18:16.46 | Cyrannian | Hello |
18:16.55 | Vincent20100 | Hey Cyrannian! |
18:16.55 | OluapWorker | ~punch Cyrannian |
18:16.56 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
18:16.56 | Cyrannian | I keep forgetting my new password. |
18:17.04 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapWorker |
18:17.04 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapWorker, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
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18:19.03 | Monet | Oh wow rigin is offering peopl a free compy of Bejeweled 3.... |
18:19.08 | Monet | Origin* |
18:19.40 | Monet | Is Bejeweled the most ambitious they can offer? |
18:20.03 | Hachiman | Bejeweled is the most worthless |
18:21.43 | Monet | Great marketing strategy EA |
18:22.09 | Monet | I think i've come to a conclusion: EA prefers ot sell to casual or bro gamers. |
18:22.13 | Monet | Not dedicated fans |
18:22.52 | Monet | Since no matter how many times they re-release the FIFA games, peop lstill buy them. |
18:23.25 | TekDroid | Yeah. |
18:24.13 | TekDroid | Their sports games are just the same game with slightly upgraded graphics and an updated roster |
18:25.32 | Monet | And yet afaik the big names are still profitable year on year |
18:25.32 | Hachiman | I used to think like that, but then I realized; sports don't change either |
18:25.50 | Hachiman | They also just get changed literally by roster rather than gameplay and rules |
18:28.03 | Monet | Wow. |
18:28.25 | Monet | My wondows are closed and so are my doors and I just discovered a moth trying to fly out my wondow |
18:29.06 | Monet | My bst guess is he was skeeping under these sheets of tin-foil I have on my wondowsill. |
18:29.14 | Monet | windowsill* |
18:29.25 | Cyrannian | OluapWorker: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140918031321/spore/images/d/dc/Filonan_Aerember.png - this is awesome |
18:29.50 | Monet | Or he was hiding in the darkness between the wall and the curtains |
18:30.19 | Hachiman | Why are your doors and windows closed |
18:30.22 | Hachiman | It's hot as fuck hur |
18:30.56 | OluapWorker | Cyrannian: Thanks! I'm quite proud of it |
18:31.46 | Monet | Hachiman: The handle of my flat room window is jammed. Although it didn't feel that hot for me today. |
18:32.06 | Monet | It might be because living back in Kent, I get the North Sea winds blowing in |
18:32.52 | Hachiman | http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/are-chimps-natural-born-killers |
18:33.09 | Cyrannian | There are far too many people on my timeline putting up 'inspirational' posts about a Yes vote in Scotland's referendum. And by inspirational I mean pictures and quotes from Braveheart. |
18:33.26 | Hachiman | olol |
18:33.50 | Monet | Wait is that insensetive? |
18:34.29 | Monet | William Wallace -was- executed quite horribly for his protests I think |
18:36.30 | Wormy | I wonder when we'll find out about the vote |
18:36.54 | Hachiman | When we take their freedom |
18:37.57 | drom | Fucking britannia |
18:38.07 | Cyrannian | I could understand if they were actually Scottish, but it's just bored Irish people wanting independence just to spite England. Even though an independent Scotland would be a major competitor in terms of attracting international business rather than warm and fuzzy fellow Celts banding together |
18:38.12 | drom | Stealing everyones' freedom. |
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18:38.23 | OluapWorker | Son of a bitch |
18:38.59 | Monet | I sill question the viability of Scotland being both independant and a major economic power |
18:39.25 | Hachiman | Have you even looked at America |
18:39.34 | drom | Polan comik https://i.imgur.com/zCgs68k.jpg |
18:39.46 | Monet | Hachiman: America had the advantage of being huge and diverse |
18:40.04 | Monet | as well as the landmass only partially-explored when it first became independant. |
18:40.29 | Hachiman | Keep in mind you won't find any Brits in Scotland |
18:40.34 | Hachiman | So really it is unexplored territory |
18:40.46 | Monet | Not what I meant |
18:42.30 | Monet | Looking at patterns, what Scotland needs is a game-changer discovery |
18:42.43 | Hachiman | They have oil |
18:42.45 | Hachiman | We don't |
18:42.57 | Hachiman | They have nords |
18:42.59 | Hachiman | We don't |
18:43.27 | Monet | America had the New World, China has its remoteness, the Middle East has its vast oil reserves, India has a huge growing population of tech-savvies |
18:43.40 | Monet | ALso China has population and industry. |
18:43.52 | Monet | And rare-earth metals |
18:44.08 | Hachiman | Keep in mind that Japan is a superpower and is sitting on top of practically nothing |
18:44.44 | Hachiman | It's a resourceless land that is terrorized with earthquakes |
18:44.56 | Monet | Okay. So perhaps Scotland goes Japan's way. |
18:45.10 | Monet | Becoming a major industrial power |
18:45.20 | Cyrannian | Personally, I'm neutral about it. I won't lose any sleep if they vote for independence. And yes, Scotland probably has far more resources than Ireland and the Republic, despite still recovering from the recession, is still one of the richest countries in the world. |
18:45.47 | Hachiman | Scotland also has a very well-preserved cultural identity, as shown by its separate laws from the rest of the UK |
18:46.08 | Monet | That may help for tourism |
18:46.28 | Cyrannian | Personally I think more devolution within the UK is probably the best option, but that's just my opinion. |
18:47.10 | Hachiman | Personally though I think that all the guys who are itching to vote "yes" will end up voting "no" so as to not upset the status quo and risk an even worse economic situation |
18:47.18 | Monet | The bulk of japan's success came from what China and India have ridden on: Offering cheap manufacturing labour, foreign investment and a drive towards industrialisation. |
18:48.33 | Monet | Anime may be what everyone thinks whe nthey look at Japan now but that's a recent phenomenon. |
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18:49.46 | Hachiman | Well not entirely |
18:49.59 | Hachiman | If you mean in the last century recent, yeah |
18:50.35 | Hachiman | Anime and manga has been around since the American occupation of Japan post-WW2 |
18:50.46 | Monet | Yes but was it a phenomenon? |
18:51.01 | Hachiman | Well yeah it was to the Japanese public |
18:51.13 | Monet | I mean internationally. |
18:51.16 | Hachiman | And then later to the Western world |
18:51.51 | Monet | I've played enough strategy games to understand that the really big money is in international markets. |
18:52.02 | Hachiman | I think it's been popular in the western world since the 70s-80s |
18:52.12 | Monet | That's what I mean by recent. |
18:52.19 | Hachiman | Due to the likes of Akira and Studio Ghibli |
18:52.36 | Monet | What got Japan out of the ashes of WWII was investment in its industry. |
18:54.03 | Monet | I'm seeing more of a trial-by-fire for Scotland. |
18:54.14 | Monet | if "yes" is the majority vote |
18:54.26 | Hachiman | "I'm seeing more of a trial-by-fire for Scotland." -> Japan was nuked twice hur |
18:55.23 | Monet | Either Scotland will decline further into obscurity until the only way to survive is to join back with England. Or it goes though an economic rough patch for several years before it starts crawling back up the economic ladder. |
18:55.30 | Hachiman | If the vote is "yes" then I imagine that they'll be fine and won't collapse immediately in on themselves like a black hole |
18:56.19 | Monet | In regards to what currency an independant scotland will use I haven't heard much response on it. |
18:56.28 | Monet | And the consequences of the currency switch |
18:56.48 | Monet | They certianly won't get a positive response for still using the British Pound. |
18:58.07 | Monet | Actually Its jsut come to me...As Cyrannian may have hinted this perhaps isn't about a long-term goal. The entire continent is swept up in a tide of right-wing nationalism. |
18:58.49 | Monet | Scotland happens to have taken it a step further. |
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18:59.55 | ImpyDroid | Hello again |
19:00.11 | Cyrannian | I think this is more left wing nationalism, which isn't necessarily a bad thing in my book. |
19:00.43 | Cyrannian | Hello |
19:00.57 | Hachiman | We're just talking about Scottyland again |
19:01.04 | Monet | Hi |
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19:01.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
19:01.17 | Monet | I'm not sure which wing this whole thing is |
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19:02.47 | Monet | Hi |
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19:02.52 | Xho | Evening |
19:02.58 | drom | Hello. |
19:03.03 | drom | Did Zmr56 get online? |
19:03.15 | OluapWorker | sou |
19:03.17 | OluapWorker | spu even |
19:03.25 | Hachiman | ups |
19:03.49 | Cyrannian | Scottish and Irish nationalism is mostly left-wing, as in they tend to be against race-based nationalism and imperialism. What annoyed me about those statuses was that most of them seemed to be made from a prospective that still sees the UK as being an imperialist power trying to curtail Scottish self-determination. |
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19:04.35 | Xho | u |
19:04.42 | OluapWorker | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140918023215/spore/images/a/a8/Erylia_Elves.png c nu fiya alfs |
19:04.44 | Cyrannian | Which is silly, since they are getting a democratic referendum which is more than most can say. |
19:05.30 | Xho | Pelagrios - fiya dunt matter the dong treats all equally |
19:05.52 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: I agree; If the UK where imperialists then they wouldn't ven entertain the idea of independence |
19:05.57 | DrodoEmpire | *even |
19:06.13 | ImpyDroid | I do not see why Scotland seeks to secede personally |
19:06.28 | ImpyDroid | I do not understand most European seccessionist movements anyway |
19:06.39 | Monet | I'm with Impy |
19:06.52 | Hachiman | Because you're Russian and you do not understand European motives |
19:06.56 | Hachiman | :P |
19:07.14 | drom | I'm Nordic and I think I understand. |
19:07.16 | OluapWorker | stik dat tongue up ur ainis |
19:07.24 | ImpyDroid | The overall tendency of history is towards unity, not division |
19:07.24 | Monet | He happens ot live in a part of Russia that's the most exposed to European influence |
19:07.30 | Hachiman | drom: Scotland's technically nordic as well |
19:07.42 | drom | Yep. That's what I understand. |
19:07.44 | ImpyDroid | "The Gateway to Europe", yep |
19:08.17 | ImpyDroid | I understand nat |
19:08.59 | ImpyDroid | Russia has its own separatism problems but we solve it with representation (sort of) |
19:09.04 | Hachiman | Scotland wants out of the string of crappy British politics that have been influencing their counytry |
19:09.10 | Hachiman | *country |
19:09.39 | Cyrannian | There are some points in favour of independence which I feel are legitimate, since the Scots are a minority in parliament and I could understand that some feel powerless to influence it because of that. |
19:10.10 | ImpyDroid | We may be an authoritarian country but our federal subjects have a great deal of independence and representation |
19:10.58 | Monet | I dobut that they'll beocme free of shitty politicians by seceding |
19:10.58 | Hachiman | I do wonder if the UK and Scotland will come to blows if independence gets declared |
19:12.06 | ImpyDroid | Does Scotland have its own legal system and/or parliament? |
19:12.07 | Monet | We could end up seeing Animal Farm: Scotland breaks off rom england to escape its corruption only for its own politicians ot become corrupt themselves. |
19:12.27 | TekDroid | Monet: from what I've seen, probably |
19:12.37 | drom | ImpyDroid: I guess both. Because they have got their own parliament. |
19:13.06 | ImpyDroid | Bah, you merely adopted corruption |
19:13.16 | ImpyDroid | We were born in it, moulded by it |
19:13.18 | TekDroid | Scotland seems to think it'll magically become a Scandinavia-style government. |
19:13.30 | Cyrannian | ImpyDroid: It has a devolved government |
19:13.48 | ImpyDroid | Devolved as in? |
19:14.56 | TekDroid | I personally think we'll see an attempted repeat of 1707 eventually: Scotland goes broke and needs a union. |
19:15.27 | ImpyDroid | We didn't fight corruption 2000, by then it was nothing but debilitating |
19:15.50 | Cyrannian | It has authority over many home affairs though ultimately below the government of the UK as a whole. |
19:16.47 | ImpyDroid | So what exactly is wrong then if they have representation and can govern their own domain? |
19:16.59 | Xho | Nothing really |
19:17.03 | Hachiman | Their representation means fuck all |
19:17.11 | Xho | Alex Salmond is a bit of a megalomaniac |
19:17.17 | TekDroid | ^ |
19:17.24 | Hachiman | He is but I feel he's not really unfounded |
19:17.58 | Monet | Maybe having amegalomaniac president is a bad move for Scotland |
19:18.08 | Hachiman | Monet: Murica |
19:18.18 | Xho | Well we have 650 megalomaniacs at the moment |
19:18.23 | Xho | It's called parliament |
19:18.25 | Hachiman | But whether or not the Scots get freedom means little to me really |
19:19.05 | Monet | Xho: Dat generalisation |
19:19.25 | ImpyDroid | Heh, megalomaniac leaders |
19:19.30 | Xho | Well name one politician of whose face you don't want to punch |
19:20.04 | Monet | Glegg sorta |
19:20.10 | Monet | Clegg* |
19:20.34 | Cyrannian | I kinda like him too |
19:20.44 | Monet | I feel sorry for him |
19:21.02 | Xho | Clegg is full of broken promises |
19:21.24 | Xho | I mean the whole tuition fees fiasco was pretty much because he promised 'to lower tuition fees' |
19:21.31 | Xho | Instead they rise to £9000 a year |
19:21.33 | Monet | Promises he had little power to uphold. |
19:22.01 | Monet | According to a press conference a Tory-only government would have pushed those fees even higher |
19:22.04 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
19:22.07 | Xho | Then again I hate all politicians |
19:22.35 | Monet | There's this Green Party MP who tried pushing to investigate and re-evaluate the UK's drug policies |
19:23.06 | drom | Politics are a bullshit. I want to build a spaceship and escape from this shithole. |
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19:23.41 | Cyrannian | The smaller party in coalition almost always faces the brunt of public outrage when a government becomes unpopular even though I doubt if they have much power to actually challenge the larger party. |
19:24.17 | Xho | Pretty much every political party is unpopular at the moment |
19:24.23 | Monet | That's my problem with having a majority party - who can oppose policies agreed thoughout said party\? |
19:24.26 | Xho | Except for UKIP since the country is going to pot |
19:25.34 | Cyrannian | Personally I think party politics is fundamentally dumb. |
19:26.07 | Xho | Idiots trying to lead idiots is bound to fail anyway |
19:26.15 | drom | I hate it when politics usually exploit peoples' stupidty. |
19:26.27 | Xho | As long as you have a private education and money you can be a politician |
19:26.49 | Xho | Of course people break that mould but you can't tell them apart at face value |
19:28.29 | drom | I usually complain about our politics and how it affects other nations. |
19:28.52 | drom | I even said that our immigration policy will affect other nations so they can isolate themselves from immigration. |
19:29.19 | drom | "Meh, let Sweden take this problems instead. It wants alot of them, best idea ever!" |
19:29.41 | Cyrannian | Speaking of the UK, I have relatives from Manchester over so I'll be back in a while |
19:32.07 | Xho | 'Manchester' |
19:32.11 | Xho | Hardly England I must say |
19:32.49 | Monet | Lol |
19:33.52 | Monet | Manchester is one of those places that's in England...yet its not English |
19:34.44 | Monet | Part of me wonders that if Scotland breaks off, will Wales join them one day? |
19:35.22 | Xho | Probably |
19:35.33 | Xho | I think anything that's not London can only vaguely be called England |
19:35.48 | Xho | As far as politicians are concerned, if it is not London nor the south-east it isn't worth thinking about |
19:36.05 | Monet | What about Oxford? |
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19:38.22 | Monet | Actually here's what we should have seen: Even during his "call me dave" stint, Mr. Cameron neverreally bothered with his home constituency |
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19:50.00 | drom | My parents say that I should be a politican. Is it because I'm so- convicing and explain how problems affect each other? |
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19:54.13 | drom | Watchin' Tower Heist |
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20:08.15 | Monet | Reading though a provided list of extracts that relate to my first year's first project...I think I'm enthralled |
20:08.48 | Monet | Its an extract form a book called "Invisible Cities", and it describes cities that are beautiful, surreal, focusing on a particular aspect. |
20:09.06 | Monet | I'm getting a euphoric rush imagining these places. |
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20:15.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Wormy |
20:15.17 | Wormy | hi |
20:15.31 | Monet | Hi |
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20:16.18 | Wormy | oh |
20:16.24 | Wormy | I |
20:16.29 | Wormy | it |
20:16.51 | Wormy_ | again |
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20:20.52 | drom | goddamnit steam |
20:21.10 | drom | I played a video and left it on. It's still playing in the background even I closed it. |
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20:21.26 | Hachiman_ | Back from dindins |
20:21.36 | Wormy | doggie |
20:22.16 | Monet | Hallo |
20:22.24 | OluapWorker | ur a dindin |
20:22.44 | drom | The video was ed edd n eddy episode dubbed in japanese |
20:23.22 | drom | and then an ad of swedes translating to japanese, in a google-translate-style. |
20:23.31 | drom | Feels more like a concidence. |
20:23.40 | drom | Not. |
20:24.23 | Hachiman_ | "TODAY OVER IN THE UNITED KINGDONESIA MANY ARE VOTE WITH \M/ OR /W\ FOR IS SCOTLANDONESIA WILL LEAVE ENGLANDONESIA TO STRIVE FOR GUTTURAL INDEPENTALITY!!!!!!! INDONESIA WILL SAY FOR SCOTLANDONESIA "COME TO INDONESIA!!!!!!!" AND ENJOY FREEDOM WITH 666 PATTERN OF YOUR FACE WITH HAGGIS!!!!!!!!! CAN HAGGIS IS MADE FROM TIGER?!?!?! THESE ARE QUESTIONS TO ANSWER WITH INDEPENDANT SCOTLANDONESIA UNION!!!!!" |
20:24.34 | Hachiman_ | On my Facebook feed |
20:24.38 | drom | What the fuck. |
20:26.56 | Hachiman_ | \m/ for independent Scotlandonesia |
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20:28.21 | OluapWorker | how bout u ly off the shrooms |
20:28.34 | Wormy | Is it to welcome victorious Scots to Indonesia? |
20:29.05 | Hachiman_ | No, silly, Scotland will geologically migrate to Indonesia |
20:29.17 | Hachiman_ | As in it will actually separate from the UK as a landmass |
20:29.31 | Wormy | Good riddance. |
20:29.55 | Ghel | I wonder how they'll find their new tropical climate. |
20:30.10 | Wormy | Maybe they can stick their bagpipes down the Pacific Ring of Fire volcanoes |
20:30.42 | Wormy | It didn't go well last times the Scots migrated to the tropics. |
20:31.01 | Hachiman_ | ur just a jessy, oaf-lookin' scooner callie-breek-tattie |
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20:32.53 | Ghel | Ah, yes, the last time Scotland broke off from the rest of Great Britain and went to equatorial lands. It caused a global superglue shortage when they decided they wanted to join the island back together. |
20:34.08 | Monet | Scot - Ey, what's that giant thing up in the sky? | Scot 2 - That's the sun | Scot - O right...its too bright >> Frankie Boyle on a sunnier Scotland |
20:34.16 | Wormy | we shouldn't let that glue go to waste |
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20:36.27 | Ghel | If they split again, we might be able to scrape some off the north coast of England. |
20:36.33 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:36.40 | Wormy | No Abrams No. Stahp http://time.com/3398688/star-wars-batman-jj-abrams-mashup/ |
20:36.42 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
20:37.08 | Ghel | We're discussing Scotland's independence and what might happen if they seperate their land from the rest of Britain and move it to Indonesia. |
20:37.47 | AdmiralPanda | Ghel: That would actually be kinda funny |
20:38.01 | Hachiman_ | Scotlandonesia should separate from the United Kingdonesia |
20:38.08 | Monet | My favourite Frankie Boyle joke on scotland is an anecdote about this guy who peed on someone's front door, then took out his keys and went inside. |
20:38.28 | Hachiman_ | olol |
20:38.57 | Wormy | don't underestimate sheep what an idiot https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=892744840748576 |
20:39.24 | Wormy | I think the Scots could help the Indonesians plug up their volcanoes with bagpipes. |
20:39.24 | Hachiman_ | I've seen that |
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20:40.42 | Wormy | The Indonesia will forever play the Scottish anthem. |
20:41.08 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:41.10 | Wormy | hi |
20:41.26 | Monet | But wait...what if the Scottish bagpipes lead to a single super-eruption? |
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20:41.58 | Wormy | That was the plan all along |
20:42.20 | Wormy | And then they'd send it to Englandonesia |
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20:42.41 | Wormy | like a giant bagpipe rocket |
20:42.50 | Ghel | So they'll use the spare bagpipes to blow it in the right direction? |
20:42.51 | Wormy | made of haggis |
20:42.59 | Wormy | yes |
20:43.42 | Wormy | Spitting Image - Bonnie Scotland Song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPdkeYoW6aA |
20:44.02 | Xho | Well, I now have the Sword of Aeons and Jack of Blades' Mask in Fable |
20:44.10 | AdmiralPanda | nice |
20:44.14 | Xho | I think I pretty much just won the evil route in Fable hur |
20:44.23 | OluapWorker | gud work chimp we're proud of u |
20:44.32 | AdmiralPanda | also, congratulations on fighting the only actual fightable final boss in all of Fable |
20:44.55 | Xho | hur |
20:44.59 | Xho | Fable is a bit easy |
20:44.59 | Hachiman_ | Scotlandonesia needs to walk to Indonesia like an Egyptonesian |
20:45.03 | Xho | "a bit" |
20:45.06 | Xho | Well it's extremely easy |
20:45.29 | Xho | If you have Berserk and Health Potions you can pretty much tank anything the game throws at you |
20:45.32 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: THat shadow monster from III comes close, seeing as you fight a posessed buy to kill it |
20:46.11 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: Yeah but that's shoehorned when the "evil brother" is presented as the main bad guy for half the game |
20:46.47 | AdmiralPanda | and as Yahtzee points out, he's perfectly justified in his dickery, just he never told people about the eldritch abomination from across the cosmos trying to eat everyone |
20:47.13 | Xho | Well at least I killed Thunder |
20:47.16 | Xho | Thunder is extremely annoying |
20:47.17 | Monet | THat would have crumbled the kingdom even faster than the shadow monster's assault ever would |
20:47.39 | Monet | It would have caused mass hysteria if he told everyone that shadows would come to kill them all |
20:48.34 | Monet | Although was it shoehorned or did Moleneux keep his cards close tohis chest on that? |
20:48.38 | Technobliterator | yo |
20:48.39 | Xho | Right now I've played the game as totally evil I can now play it as good |
20:49.17 | Monet | The brother -had- know nabout this threat for years. |
20:49.18 | Xho | I still think Jack is the best villain in Fable |
20:49.42 | Monet | Its Jack vs Lord Pussy-face Lucien and the Evil Shadow |
20:50.06 | Monet | Although the evil shadow was a fucking arsehole |
20:50.06 | Wormy | fat cabinet ministers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg6OppvC5nM |
20:51.09 | Monet | Actually yeah, I don't think Shadowguy was shoehorned in |
20:51.30 | Monet | Teresa talked about "the fate of Aurora", which means Dawn in Latin, the opposite of night, of shadow. |
20:51.53 | Monet | Although I admit the execution of the story could have been WAY better |
20:52.55 | Xho | That and Jack is the coolest looking one of the three |
20:52.59 | Xho | The Crawler is a bit asjjfadgsadjg |
20:53.28 | Monet | Two parts of III were most memorable to me: the Revolutionaries' assault on Bowestone and exploring the lair of the Crawler |
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20:53.59 | drom | Man. I love this movie. |
20:53.59 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
20:54.00 | Monet | I think I almost soiled myself once or twice with the latter it was so creepy. |
20:54.04 | drom | "The Tower Heist" |
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20:54.55 | Monet | The Crawler's attack on Bowerstone however...I was simply "Wait is this it?" |
20:55.51 | Monet | One fight in Bowerstone, after all the military the evil brother pushed for |
20:56.24 | Xho | And Bowerstone of all places |
20:56.40 | Monet | At the very least I would have liked at least a beachhead defence level/scene. |
20:56.54 | buildkirbyus | So- how does one create a star system page? |
20:56.56 | Monet | I wanted to see al lthat military porn dammit |
20:57.16 | drom | There's no infobox for star systems as so far by now. |
20:57.27 | Monet | Xho: Bowerstone makes sense since it seems to be the most populated area in Albion |
20:57.57 | Xho | True |
20:57.59 | Xho | But Bowerstone |
20:58.05 | Hachiman_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10653803_813944655322277_7757813682099677061_n.jpg?oh=119643c97ed7827236743066b061e6f8&oe=5493DEBB&__gda__=1419107943_94384fa55790dd8ed4b9682d7b7b78c7 |
20:58.07 | Monet | Bowerstone is awesome. |
20:59.56 | OluapWorker | http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1409155880751.gif have a kitti |
21:05.04 | Knight_Alien | Anything new? |
21:05.59 | Xho | Not really hur |
21:06.20 | Xho | I'm currently wondering whether I could make a Jack of Blades expy because, well |
21:06.30 | Xho | If you don't like Jack of Blades you need to be punched in the crotch |
21:07.14 | Knight_Alien | Well in other news , What do you guys think of the Game Grumps? |
21:07.28 | Xho | Though the only way I could make an expy like that would be an avatar of Caligaduro or Tlaharan |
21:08.10 | Knight_Alien | Ah. |
21:08.21 | Xho | I dunno I don't watch Game Grumps |
21:08.42 | drom | Knight_Alien: In news of Sporewiki: Algolurn and NC are working on a pathogen which gives NC's species more strength. New Algolurn weaponry in the market. And a wide range of additions/cuts made to many different pages as usual. |
21:08.46 | Xho | Mainly because I don't play video games that much hur |
21:08.51 | drom | People can mention them if they want to. |
21:08.58 | Xho | Fable's the only game I've given proper attention to in years |
21:09.04 | Knight_Alien | I see Drom. |
21:09.16 | Xho | Monet: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315674358 Well you can guess what I did here hur |
21:09.39 | Knight_Alien | Well based on the GG and every other big youtuber they seem to get a certain way. |
21:10.02 | Knight_Alien | They get full of themselves and , well they just becoome liars on a camera. |
21:10.15 | drom | I find it funny how when wearing the mask won't make you look like a devil/demon when you put it on as an angel (very high karma). |
21:10.16 | Knight_Alien | Hachis Pewdiepie is a example. |
21:10.47 | drom | And it gives you -999 karma. Which does all way down to the devil/demon karma. |
21:11.02 | Hachiman_ | I think Dan and Jon from GG are fine, the others are meh while Arin is outright ugh |
21:11.10 | Hachiman_ | I like Dan and Jon though |
21:11.29 | drom | It's unclear if you get strengh from it. Because it have been a very long while since I played that game. |
21:11.49 | Knight_Alien | The GG have a trying feeling to most of their videos but still some are like lieing to a camera. |
21:12.04 | Xho | I'm not even wearing the mask and I have full on devil appearance hur |
21:12.21 | drom | Xho: Is there more effects of wearing the mask besides it being permanent and gives you instant devil karma? |
21:12.35 | Knight_Alien | Pewdiepie used to do good professional Videos now he just screams and stuff. |
21:12.41 | Xho | Not really no |
21:12.57 | buildkirbyus | and have the most subs in youtube |
21:13.03 | Xho | Sword of Aeons is probably the best overall weapon in the game I think |
21:13.17 | Xho | Does 230 damage and is a lightweight weapon |
21:13.25 | drom | I played Fable 2. |
21:13.34 | Xho | There's a weapon that does higher damage called The Bereaver but it's a heavyweight weapon |
21:13.44 | drom | Spoiler: The starting city in Fable is under water. |
21:13.44 | Xho | y u no play first Fable |
21:14.02 | drom | Xho: I got it before Fable 2 as a birthday gift from my sister's former bf |
21:14.03 | Knight_Alien | His old videos have some great trying feeling and his new ''Professional'' Infamous series was terrible. |
21:14.09 | Xho | Between the two games I preferred the first Fable |
21:14.22 | Knight_Alien | He said he would try but mostly didn't say much. |
21:14.28 | drom | How about 3? I have never played it. |
21:14.38 | Knight_Alien | 3 sucks. |
21:14.56 | Knight_Alien | Fable 3 was bad. |
21:15.13 | Cyrannian | hai |
21:15.17 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
21:15.24 | drom | The silver keys was a pain in the ass to collect in Fable 1 |
21:15.54 | drom | Especially when you had to break inside other peoples' houses to get them. |
21:16.24 | drom | (I hate Kraken) |
21:16.34 | Knight_Alien | AJ sus up most of my Hate for Fable 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSaw85bliyQ&hd=1 |
21:16.42 | Knight_Alien | *Sums* |
21:17.45 | drom | To bad that literaly 100% of those videoes made by popular celebrities have no captions. |
21:18.37 | drom | Hm. It was the Fable: TLC edition I played. |
21:21.28 | drom | This is how Kraken looked like in TLC. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110817232714/fable/images/thumb/b/b2/370318-fable-the-lost-chapters-windows-screenshot-the-legendary-krakens.jpg/1000px-370318-fable-the-lost-chapters-windows-screenshot-the-legendary-krakens.jpg |
21:22.35 | drom | And here's the anniversary one http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140210031530/fable/images/4/45/Fable_Anniversary_Kraken.jpg |
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21:33.39 | drom | Apprently it was Reaver from Fable II who destroyed Oakville. |
21:33.54 | drom | Oakvale* |
21:35.09 | Xho | Sounds about right |
21:35.16 | Xho | Scythe is one creepy character |
21:38.32 | drom | The reason behind the destruction of Oakvale and the area around it -better known as Warithmarsh- was much due to Reaver who want to forever stay young. So he made a deal with demons. So, yeah, it killed all residents and showed no mercy to those who lived. |
21:38.58 | drom | Nobody could save the living from the "shadows". |
21:39.52 | drom | I heard about this, but I never knew about it was the fucking kid that I escorted all the way through the mid-last chapters of Fable 2. |
21:41.13 | drom | Man I surely forgotten all about Scythe. |
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21:41.33 | drom | But not the prison and the first encounter with Jack. |
21:42.07 | drom | By back when i played the game, I was like - I have no idea what to do when I was in warden's office. |
21:42.49 | drom | Assuming that I lived like 40-50 years in the prison until I figuered it out. |
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21:48.59 | Hachiman_ | Hm I wonder what to call my space monkeys if anybody remembers me talking about them |
21:49.30 | drom | Monkeys? |
21:49.42 | drom | Ah, I remember how you nicked my Aemons. |
21:50.27 | Hachiman_ | Aye, I talked about a spacefaring culture of provolved, biologically augmented and technologically assisted (yet culturally independent) space monkeys a while back |
21:50.55 | Hachiman_ | Most likely consisting of chimpanzee-bonobo descendants |
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21:51.59 | drom | Well. You can still put a placeholder name for them. |
21:52.13 | drom | So you can rename the page whenever you find a better name. |
21:52.44 | Hachiman_ | I know but I just wanna get a few things established first before I start doing stuff with them |
21:52.51 | drom | Panbonzee? |
21:53.03 | Hachiman_ | dats silly |
21:53.25 | drom | b-but monkeys are silly |
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21:53.32 | AdmiralPanda | So⦠Notch left Mojang because Minecraft became famous? Not sure if good guy or hipster |
21:53.54 | Hachiman_ | He left because he sold Minecraft to Microsoft |
21:53.56 | drom | ... why not, both? |
21:53.57 | buildkirbyus | No- he left because he 'finished' |
21:54.20 | buildkirbyus | oh jeez if microsoft actually owned minecraft... |
21:54.31 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman_: I know that, but his reasoning for selling was because he didn't want to be a part of something big and ground-breaking. He's going back to small scale stuff |
21:55.01 | Hachiman_ | Well, perhaps he's just a modest guy |
21:55.04 | drom | I think it's kinda smart for one who isn't familiar with big stuff. Even a big-seller like his Minecraft. |
21:55.16 | buildkirbyus | we need more people like that in the world. |
21:55.20 | AdmiralPanda | Hachi: Yeah that's probably it |
21:55.45 | drom | He will go away with his title and earnings. |
21:56.14 | drom | And he can either live off with the earnings or start a new "small" hobby with it. |
21:56.18 | Hachiman_ | Although he's got $2 billion in his pocket from Microsoft and other cash he's made from Minecraft |
21:56.43 | AdmiralPanda | oh oh oh I forgot to mention, someone's making a spiritual successor to Chrome Hounds! |
21:57.05 | AdmiralPanda | I have basically never been so hyped about a game |
21:57.33 | Hachiman_ | Perhaps he wants to remain an independent developer like he was back when he started Minecraft, and now that it's in Microsoft's hands for them to take care of he has nothing more to add or contribute |
21:58.26 | drom | CHROME HOUNDS?! |
21:58.31 | drom | Gib source plz |
21:58.58 | AdmiralPanda | http://www.bombdogstudios.com |
21:59.31 | AdmiralPanda | it's still early in development, but I've seen some early gameplay and it's basically Chrome Hounds |
22:01.52 | drom | Ah yes. |
22:02.16 | drom | Chromehounds was fun. Too bad that it didn't last that long. |
22:02.38 | AdmiralPanda | Chrome Hounds was A) the first shooter I really enjoyed on its own, and B) the only game that can make a soda can on legs an actual epic bossfight |
22:03.09 | Hachiman_ | AdmiralPanda: Saints Row IV |
22:03.19 | drom | Aye. I really hated those Cereabus hounds. |
22:03.34 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman_: nah, that was just a regular fight against a really big soda can |
22:03.53 | drom | With 20 machineguns mounted to it |
22:04.00 | Hachiman_ | But it was epic nonetheless hur |
22:04.46 | AdmiralPanda | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zeYhixJYs behold the soda can |
22:07.50 | buildkirbyus | those aren't mgs, those are missiles. |
22:08.27 | AdmiralPanda | it has MG's as well |
22:08.44 | buildkirbyus | the guy is just staying out of range. like a smart person |
22:08.59 | AdmiralPanda | that's basically how you had to fight any of the superweapons |
22:09.18 | AdmiralPanda | that pack had three heavy gunners though, so they were going to have an easy time anyway |
22:09.34 | drom | I can see 4 mgs mounted at the front |
22:10.01 | AdmiralPanda | drom: it had about 8, maybe 12 mgs total, but the missiles were what worried you most |
22:10.34 | drom | I see. |
22:11.05 | drom | I remember the level where you had to fight against an sniper hound. |
22:11.35 | AdmiralPanda | ew you're talking about the single player |
22:12.07 | drom | Because I hadn't any interwebz for it by then |
22:12.11 | AdmiralPanda | the 1-p was a wipe, all you needed was a fairly default Soldier RT and you could finish any mission except that one artillery |
22:12.45 | AdmiralPanda | the multiplayer was what made the game great, its core design made it probably the best tactics-based shooter ever |
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22:13.57 | The_Wood_Pulp | Hi everybody |
22:14.00 | drom | Too bad it didn't live so much far that I could get a bit of it |
22:14.14 | AdmiralPanda | the super weapon missions were unlocked after a LOT of fighting in multiplayer, so it really felt like something you'd earned, and the fights were epic |
22:14.15 | Liquid_Ink | iâll only make a couple of characters and theyâll all have something important to do with each others plot! https://31.media.tumblr.com/15f62d5c0acda57be869c1a3e61dd42d/tumblr_inline_nbpm39TyqJ1rlu1av.gif |
22:14.54 | The_Wood_Pulp | I...have actually done that to pizza rolls |
22:15.26 | The_Wood_Pulp | Arranged them in a neat little circle like I'm trying to summon the totem spirit of broke college students |
22:15.35 | Hachiman_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10712975_936593896387801_6085923443035997316_n.jpg?oh=2d9ea7a8ddd220c6b50085ab7bbaf538&oe=549105AC&__gda__=1418309062_1a26ba994e861758c309368d9eba628d So the Chuckle Brothers are recording with the rapper Tinchy Stryder |
22:16.43 | Wormy | lol |
22:16.49 | Wormy | I follow them on Twitter |
22:16.52 | drom | alright I need get to bed. |
22:16.54 | drom | See ya. |
22:16.56 | Wormy | bye |
22:17.55 | The_Wood_Pulp | Hey does anyone here live in UK? |
22:18.09 | Hachiman_ | Yup, me and Wormy do |
22:18.11 | The_Wood_Pulp | And if so do they know the result of the Scottish thing |
22:18.20 | Hachiman_ | Not yet, we'll find out tomorrow |
22:18.28 | The_Wood_Pulp | k |
22:18.37 | Cyrannian | 'tis exciting |
22:18.54 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: Do you have any suggestions or ideas regarding my space monkeys? Stuff like technological scale and culture and stuff like that, I wanna make them seem more unique and outside of the standard "furry humans" |
22:19.20 | Hachiman_ | That is, if you remember me talking about them |
22:21.27 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman_: One thing I'd say is they'd probably place great cultural weight on territory; maybe even having a feudal system of governance |
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22:22.02 | The_Wood_Pulp | If they're like monkeys, they would probably have a weird familial system |
22:22.17 | Hachiman_ | Feudal? As in, like daimyos, shoguns, commoners, etc? |
22:22.29 | Hachiman_ | Never thought about that with monkeys before |
22:22.44 | The_Wood_Pulp | like gorillas where there's a silverback who controls most of the females and smaller males who break off now and again to join other groups |
22:22.57 | Hachiman_ | Ah now that makes sense |
22:23.41 | Wormy | Hachiman: Maybe their cities are more like in the trees, but purely technological |
22:23.42 | The_Wood_Pulp | Or also like gorillas they might not be territorial, always migratory and on the move |
22:24.09 | Wormy | Maybe they live in hives, without roads and with buildings built into each other |
22:24.13 | AdmiralPanda | I was thinking more in the sense of european feudalism, wherein the higher-ups divide their terrain between their subjects, which results in a hierarchy of owing other people moeny |
22:24.18 | The_Wood_Pulp | Hive monkeys? |
22:24.22 | Wormy | Early humans lived like that |
22:24.28 | Wormy | yeah |
22:24.46 | AdmiralPanda | as in, the king splits his land up between the barons, who split their land amongst the knights, who have the peasants work said land |
22:24.59 | Hachiman_ | AdmiralPanda: Right that works |
22:25.07 | The_Wood_Pulp | Or maybe they're like the monkeys in the Jungle Book where they have no ruler and live in perpetual idiotic anarchy |
22:25.18 | Wormy | There was one ancient culture that never built roads or had a hierachial leadership. They put their houses together and each house was connected by ladders and corridors or roof tops |
22:25.19 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: How'd you mean? I'm having trouble picturing this hur |
22:25.25 | AdmiralPanda | anarchy doesn't work for a sustainable heirarchy |
22:25.57 | AdmiralPanda | sustainable civilisation, w/e |
22:26.01 | Wormy | This culture lasted a long time you know, before it was conquered |
22:26.15 | Wormy | Might have been static society though |
22:27.07 | Hachiman_ | When you say "hive city" I'm imagine cities that are built upward rather than outward |
22:27.25 | Hachiman_ | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101226021440/warhammer40k/images/f/fb/Hive.jpg Like this |
22:27.42 | Hachiman_ | Not sure if that was what you meant though |
22:27.55 | The_Wood_Pulp | yeah I'm just spitballing. "monkey civilization" brought it to mind |
22:27.56 | AdmiralPanda | oh hive cities how I do love thee, especially when one well-placed melta charge can bring the whole thing down :D |
22:28.38 | Wormy | Hachi: I'm thinking of the culture I mentioned, or possibly, a city in the trees although the Ape city doesn't have to be in actual trees |
22:29.39 | The_Wood_Pulp | It seems like their methods of transportation could be split equally between pedestrian and brachial locomotion |
22:30.19 | The_Wood_Pulp | like sidewalks that split off into rope-like structures leading upwards and joining a different sidewalk |
22:30.30 | The_Wood_Pulp | IDK just brainstorming |
22:30.36 | Hachiman_ | Ooh that sounds nice |
22:30.51 | Hachiman_ | Their cities would be twisty-turny structures |
22:31.03 | Hachiman_ | Although that would make it hard to support vehicles |
22:31.51 | AdmiralPanda | I'm imagining a cluster of skyscrapers with Halo-style gravity launchers connecting the buildings |
22:32.52 | AdmiralPanda | also, you are keeping bonobo diplomacy I presume? |
22:33.50 | Hachiman_ | As in, lots of shagging? |
22:33.56 | AdmiralPanda | basicall |
22:34.01 | The_Wood_Pulp | Vehicles would probably have hooks on top for cables to grab and lift them to different levels of the city |
22:37.13 | AdmiralPanda | bonobo diplomacy is second best diplomacy |
22:37.43 | Hachiman_ | aYE |
22:37.45 | Hachiman_ | Aye* |
22:39.19 | AdmiralPanda | best diplomacy is of course super weapon diplomacy |
22:40.43 | The_Wood_Pulp | oh gosh |
22:40.48 | The_Wood_Pulp | stahp |
22:40.51 | The_Wood_Pulp | =) |
22:41.30 | AdmiralPanda | why though? talking about bonobo diplomacy is hilarious, because there's probably one person here who doesn't know what I mean by that |
22:42.50 | AdmiralPanda | hm, I just imagined a sporewiki Hound Pack, I'd be Defender and Xho would be Soldier, but not quite sure who would fill out the other RTS |
22:43.07 | Hachiman_ | What would I be? :P |
22:43.08 | Wormy | Hachiman, Cyrannian Update on the news: A poll done after the votes suggest the No vote will win, a 52+% to 46%, possibly because Yes voters are more likely to bottle it than No. Interesting pyschology there, we'll see how it bares out |
22:43.31 | Cyrannian | A ten year old Cyrannian was traumatised when he learned about bonobo diplomacy while watching what he believed to be an innocent documentary about funny looking monkeys. |
22:43.33 | Wormy | It was more than 52 but I forgot |
22:43.46 | AdmiralPanda | bahaha |
22:43.53 | Wormy | Bonobo diplomacy? |
22:44.39 | Wormy | The debate now is that if the no vote succeeds, and Scotland gets more freedoms, so should England have those new freedoms |
22:44.47 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy: A) thanks for proving my point, and B) solving everything with sex |
22:45.06 | Wormy | i c |
22:45.29 | Cyrannian | At least it means that you won't need to rename yourselves the "United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland". |
22:45.58 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman_: well, you have the Sniper, so somebody who's quick-thinking, precise, and doesn't really care that he doesn't get any respect outside of his own team, the Heavy Gunner, who's patient and clever and also doesn't care about getting no respect outside of his team |
22:46.15 | Cyrannian | Though a small part of me wants to see how much the status-quo would change if Scotland does gain independence. |
22:46.23 | AdmiralPanda | the Scout, who runs around grabbing radar towers and finding the enemy commander to spank them, and the commander, who tells the rest of the Pack where the enemies are so they can be spanked |
22:46.34 | AdmiralPanda | neither of whom get much respect outside of their squad either to be honest |
22:47.28 | AdmiralPanda | (in case you haven't guessed, people outside of the squad only ever seem to notice the Soldier because he kills things, or the Defender because he doesn't die) |
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22:50.15 | Hachiman_ | http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/18/scottish-independence-union-jack-union-flag_n_5841084.html?1411042145 Some of these flags look nice |
22:50.16 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Technodroid] by ChanServ |
22:51.29 | AdmiralPanda | actually that's a good point, we'll need to change our flag too |
22:52.04 | AdmiralPanda | although, since the inclusion of the union jack is basically in homage nowadays, we could probably just keep it the way it is to say "well Scotland was important to us too" |
22:52.22 | Hachiman_ | Could be a memoir |
22:52.24 | AdmiralPanda | in fact, that's precisely what I would do (25-40% scottish here) |
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22:52.43 | Cyrannian | I'm sure a green union jack would go down very well with Northern Ireland's hard-line unionist community. |
22:52.56 | The_Wood_Pulp | Yes |
22:53.11 | The_Wood_Pulp | Imagine if you had to convince America to change our flag... |
22:53.37 | The_Wood_Pulp | I think you would probably get invaded |
22:59.45 | Hachiman_ | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10606349_1519302251620178_158426984790133185_n.jpg?oh=1b2b68bcadd12fef6428699be9768317&oe=54CAE63D&__gda__=1418512865_02e476645849e497965dfa27bf584e05 ohgod CNN is so fucking illiterate |
23:00.30 | AdmiralPanda | what's the equivalent for illiteracy but with numbers? |
23:01.02 | AdmiralPanda | oh god, solo developing a short flash game asking the player just why the fuck they love killing things is slowly reducing my ability to use the english language |
23:01.49 | Hachiman_ | Perhaps you should speak English in more situations rather than Australian |
23:01.50 | Hachiman_ | m8 |
23:02.10 | AdmiralPanda | but Australian English is fun |
23:02.39 | AdmiralPanda | in what other dialect is "fuck yourself sideways with a double-ended chainsaw" regular fare? |
23:03.59 | Hachiman_ | Australian English is like a boomerang; the Brits threw it a fair distance, waited for a bit, and then it came back and hit them so hard in the head they went down under |
23:04.12 | AdmiralPanda | prettymuch |
23:04.21 | AdmiralPanda | like everything, we took the best bits of Britain and made them more fun :P |
23:04.40 | Hachiman_ | Except the criminals |
23:04.49 | Hachiman_ | Since you don't take those |
23:04.59 | AdmiralPanda | well, not anymore |
23:05.09 | Technodroid | which best bits of Britain? :o |
23:05.11 | AdmiralPanda | btu the ones we did take were the kind that stole bread to feed their families, so we're cool with taking them |
23:05.37 | AdmiralPanda | Technodroid: Basically everything, we just added more sarcasm and a general disregard for authority |
23:05.55 | Technodroid | ohh |
23:06.46 | Technodroid | so, you made our boring stuff less boring? |
23:06.46 | Technodroid | or, un-boring'd it? |
23:07.07 | AdmiralPanda | more or less |
23:07.46 | Technodroid | man, I'd love to go to Australia one day |
23:08.43 | Hachiman_ | Technobliterator: "so, you made our boring stuff less boring?" ur not british hur |
23:08.49 | AdmiralPanda | wait till we deal with the fuckwit in Canberaa |
23:09.33 | Technodroid | I've lived here long enough to be :o |
23:09.34 | Monet | Back |
23:10.08 | Cyrannian | You aren't British? |
23:10.09 | Hachiman_ | How long have you lived here? |
23:10.52 | Hachiman_ | Cyrannian: Jo comes from Lithuania |
23:11.38 | Wormy | Hachi, Cyrannian, Monet: Whatever happens tonight, according to the BBC, there will be sweeping changes in England, Wales and Northern Ireland |
23:11.38 | Cyrannian | Oh yes |
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23:12.00 | Wormy | UK will not be the same either way yes or no |
23:12.22 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: Scotlands votes no to independence and Britain kicks it out of the UK anyway hur |
23:12.27 | Technodroid | Hachiman_, I've lived here my whole life |
23:12.29 | Wormy | You know, I think the world is entering a Postnational age |
23:12.33 | Technodroid | all 17 years of it |
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23:12.53 | Hachiman_ | Technodroid: ur only 17 u scrub |
23:12.57 | Hachiman_ | git on mah lvl 18 |
23:13.04 | Monet | Wormy: I'd say it varies. But first Europe must go through a phase of nationalism |
23:13.52 | Wormy | It will be different throughout the world |
23:13.54 | Technodroid | nah m8 |
23:13.54 | Technodroid | im mlg pro |
23:14.07 | Hachiman_ | moar liek mlg underage |
23:14.11 | Wormy | Hah hah, you are still teenagers hah hah |
23:14.36 | Technodroid | :'( |
23:14.36 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: You're closer to being an old, wrinkly OAP than us |
23:14.38 | Monet | Bitch please lvl 22 here. |
23:15.05 | Wormy | I read that as Oluap |
23:15.14 | Hachiman_ | oh deer |
23:15.40 | Wormy | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329851.500-in-our-world-beyond-nations-the-future-is-medieval.html#.VBtnaPldV8E |
23:15.45 | Wormy | interesting |
23:17.42 | The_Wood_Pulp | "hotchpotch." didn't even get past the first sentence without learning a new word |
23:18.15 | Cyrannian | My favourite word is "nincompoop". |
23:18.19 | Hachiman_ | Once I get the details down for my space chimps I might write a solofic about a group of monkey "voidwalkers" (astronauts) discovering some pseudo-true alien shit or something |
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23:18.49 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: Once I get the details down for my space chimps I might write a solofic about a group of monkey "voidwalkers" (astronauts) discovering some pseudo-true alien shit or something |
23:18.53 | Monet | I've talked before on DA about ho the Internet may be breaking borders down |
23:19.18 | AdmiralPanda | huh, apparently I'm a higher comparative level than I thought I was |
23:19.29 | AdmiralPanda | I figured you guys were a bit older tbh |
23:19.37 | The_Wood_Pulp | My favorite word is pusillanimous |
23:19.53 | Hachiman_ | My favourite word is c*nt |
23:19.56 | Tek0516 | I'm in a discussion with a group of people who are oceans away. |
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23:20.14 | Tek0516 | *realtime discussion |
23:20.20 | AdmiralPanda | bahaha Hachi |
23:20.23 | AdmiralPanda | this is why we keep you around |
23:20.23 | qwebirc759230 | faulty connection |
23:20.30 | The_Wood_Pulp | I just asked a person in the UK a question and he responded before I got bore. |
23:20.30 | qwebirc759230 | wha\t did hachi say |
23:20.38 | The_Wood_Pulp | We live in an age of miracles |
23:20.41 | Cyrannian | One of my favourite things about IRC is the ability to interact with people from across the world. |
23:20.47 | qwebirc759230 | yey |
23:20.47 | Tek0516 | Aye. |
23:20.51 | AdmiralPanda | his favourite word in the english language is a more offensive word for female genitalia |
23:21.03 | The_Wood_Pulp | Can't |
23:21.05 | The_Wood_Pulp | ? |
23:21.13 | Hachiman_ | Aye, c*unt |
23:21.15 | Wormy | Are we talking about drom's use of the c word? |
23:21.21 | Hachiman_ | Woops |
23:21.22 | The_Wood_Pulp | Oh my gosh |
23:21.25 | The_Wood_Pulp | Yep they |
23:21.34 | The_Wood_Pulp | Yep they're from britain |
23:21.42 | Hachiman_ | Oh well I fucked up the censor like a cunt |
23:21.44 | Tek0516 | In this conversation we have people from at least 3 continents. |
23:21.49 | Cyrannian | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjiMdj-CcAAZcAd.jpg |
23:21.57 | Monet | Cyrannian: Agreed. Here on the IRC it doesn't matter if you're from China, japan, Indonesia, Brazil, the US, France, Belgium or Australia. |
23:22.04 | Monet | We're all users here. |
23:22.06 | Hachiman_ | Cyrannian: ohgodlol |
23:22.25 | AdmiralPanda | bahah |
23:22.30 | The_Wood_Pulp | NEW TOPIC ALERT!!!! Explain your username |
23:22.40 | AdmiralPanda | nah |
23:22.43 | AdmiralPanda | too long |
23:22.46 | The_Wood_Pulp | Wood pulp means absolutely nothing |
23:22.53 | Hachiman_ | My wiki username was a result of me being a fucking furfaggot |
23:23.02 | AdmiralPanda | honestly, explaining my username would take as long as everyone else put together |
23:23.03 | Hachiman_ | I'll change it at some point probably |
23:23.06 | Wormy | Wormy - I'm an infectious wyrm that eats your brain and steals your knowledge/ |
23:23.10 | The_Wood_Pulp | And what is your wiki username |
23:23.12 | Wormy | Not a worm |
23:23.16 | Wormy | a Wyrm |
23:23.21 | Monet | Wormy: That article and a recent book are making me rethink how to make solid and accurate Science Fiction. |
23:23.23 | Technodroid | mine has a long reasoning behind it |
23:23.24 | Cyrannian | My username conveys the fact that I'm the administrator of Borealis |
23:23.44 | Hachiman_ | Technodroid: yee biobliterators |
23:23.49 | AdmiralPanda | Technodroid: A long reasoning originating from Ratchet and Clank 3 :P |
23:23.57 | Technodroid | Biobliterator is from Ratchet & Clank, Techno is from some FFVII line :o |
23:24.09 | Technodroid | uh ninja'd but yeah |
23:24.20 | The_Wood_Pulp | I read a really cool book by Orson Scott Card about writing sci fi and fantasy |
23:24.22 | AdmiralPanda | ok, where do I start my story? when did Halo 2 come out? |
23:24.28 | Tek0516 | Tek0516 was a username I apparently used for a site but only found out about the account when they notified me during a mass password change. 05/16 is my birthday. :P |
23:24.42 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: Once I get the details down for my space chimps I might write a solofic about a group of monkey "voidwalkers" (astronauts) discovering some pseudo-true alien shit or something |
23:25.07 | Wormy | Do they start flinging the alien shit? |
23:25.19 | Hachiman_ | Fucking goddammit Wormy |
23:25.51 | AdmiralPanda | ok, so 10 years ago I got into online multiplayer, and I had a friend whose username was AViolentLemur, which stuck in my mind to such a point that when I got into computer-based online gaming, I made an account called AGrumpyPanda, which started the whole panda thing |
23:25.52 | The_Wood_Pulp | FIRE POO TORPEDOES!! YES CAPTAIN!! |
23:26.11 | Monet | Thing is a Prof. Kaku's 2011 book "Physics of the Future" made me realise how close we are to several science-fiction concepts, and stuff like post-nationalism makes me wonder if the idea of Spore Space empires is becoming old hat |
23:26.39 | AdmiralPanda | after another few years of stuff I managed to find Sporewiki, by which point I was well and entrenched in Battlefleet Gothic, which spurred my want to make more ship-based fiction here |
23:26.56 | AdmiralPanda | which got me onto talking about Admiral Kaios, and I decided to do a sort of an AMA inspired by Monet |
23:27.03 | Wormy | they probably are |
23:27.14 | AdmiralPanda | and when that was done, I replaced Admiral_Kaios with Admiral_Panda, which just got shortened to AdmiralPanda |
23:27.15 | Wormy | What inspired the name Spriggs? |
23:27.23 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy: A machinima series |
23:27.30 | Monet | Wormy: It might be why I've tried ot show the Imperium as more hegemonic than what it originally was. |
23:27.47 | AdmiralPanda | it's the name of a main character from a machinima, and 077 was just 007 with the ratio swapped |
23:28.09 | Wormy | The story behind "Wormulon" is a funny one, it wasn't Futurama quite. I'm bad with names, and when I made my Spore account, I nearly called myself "Maggoton", for maggot. But worm is better. |
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23:28.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
23:28.43 | Wormy | hi |
23:28.51 | Monet | Back in an old version of the Imperium, non-Draconis used ot require visas adminstered by Draconis to pass though Imperial space. And now....I'm considering having the Provincial council be made up of aliens instead of Draconis representing each of the provinces. |
23:29.23 | Hachiman_ | I wonder what the space chimps would do with their poo really |
23:29.30 | Hachiman_ | Maybe they turn it into ammo or something |
23:29.32 | Hachiman_ | I dunno |
23:29.39 | Monet | Ohdeere |
23:29.55 | Monet | That biological warfare that |
23:29.58 | Wormy | biofuel |
23:30.42 | The_Wood_Pulp | Probably just get rid of it like humans |
23:30.53 | Hachiman_ | So what tier are we gonna assume these monkeys are given that even though they've had biological augmentation and technological human intervention in their history they've still been spacefaring for less than a thousand years? |
23:31.06 | The_Wood_Pulp | Doing anything else would lead to disease, slowing progress of civlization |
23:31.22 | The_Wood_Pulp | they probably learned to get rid of poo in Tribe Stage |
23:31.43 | Wormy | They'd probs be as advanced as humans, some humasn factions are on thet Tier 2 line |
23:32.12 | Hachiman_ | Perhaps monkey astronauts keep their poo as emergency food supplies in their suits, since monkey shit often comes out with undigested food stuffs and nutrition |
23:32.25 | The_Wood_Pulp | Ew no |
23:33.32 | Wormy | No... |
23:33.35 | The_Wood_Pulp | Assuming humans and these creatures have a similar common ancestor I propose that their eating and hygiene habits would be at least a little similar |
23:33.39 | Wormy | Samurai Jack bronies :( |
23:33.47 | Wormy | Aku pony |
23:33.52 | The_Wood_Pulp | what |
23:33.58 | Wormy | bangs his head repeatidly |
23:34.01 | Hachiman_ | Wormy: Aye, scummy aren't they |
23:34.56 | The_Wood_Pulp | Dirty rebel scum |
23:38.31 | Hachiman_ | So the space chimps are gonna be T3-T2 then |
23:38.48 | Wormy | I won't protest |
23:39.04 | Monet | Somewhere around that. |
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23:39.30 | Cyrannian | bai |
23:39.36 | Hachiman_ | Gimme ideas for power sources and typical resources they would probably use at around that tech scale then pls |
23:39.38 | Hachiman_ | bai cyr |
23:40.04 | Vincent20100 | Hey! |
23:40.16 | Monet | Hachiman: They'd likely be using antimatter ocmmercially. |
23:41.18 | Monet | Typical resources though, we ll aside from the present-day stuff and perhaps metamterials, perhaps they're developing use for monopoles? |
23:41.35 | Hachiman_ | Remind me what monopoles do hur |
23:41.39 | Vincent20100 | Hi dudes. |
23:42.01 | Monet | They're magnetically charged atoms with only one magnetic pole. |
23:42.16 | Monet | compared to Iron atoms which have two. |
23:42.29 | Hachiman_ | And that does... what, exactly? |
23:43.45 | Monet | They can form much denser molecules than regular atoms. |
23:43.55 | Monet | And have much stronger intermolecular bonds |
23:43.58 | Wormy | They form stronger bonds with each other |
23:44.21 | Wormy | monoples could also be used as picotechnology |
23:44.31 | Wormy | or to bootstrap nuclear fusion |
23:44.49 | Wormy | A free monopole can also cause the decay of protons |
23:44.54 | Monet | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Em_monopoles.svg here's what a monopole's magnetic field looks like |
23:44.54 | Hachiman_ | So basically they make for stronger building material? |
23:45.10 | The_Wood_Pulp | Wormy's science -----> |
23:45.14 | The_Wood_Pulp | - |
23:45.17 | The_Wood_Pulp | my head |
23:45.42 | Monet | Hachiman: You can make much smaller stuff with them than you can regular atoms. |
23:45.49 | Hachiman_ | Right |
23:46.09 | Wormy | You will get used to it here, we are all wannabe physicists hur |
23:46.26 | Hachiman_ | I want to get into physics but it all goes over my head hur |
23:46.37 | Vincent20100 | We are also wannabe scientist, medics, biologists... |
23:46.50 | Wormy | Various |
23:46.52 | DrodoEmpire | ...Historians! :D |
23:46.52 | The_Wood_Pulp | Basically people who read wikipedia recreationally |
23:47.00 | Wormy | I study geology, and now programming |
23:47.18 | Monet | Although most monopoles (there may be stable variations) are reactive with standard matter, creating gamma radiation and more monopoles (right Wormy?) |
23:48.18 | Wormy | Monopole + proton ---> Monopole + neutral pion + positron |
23:48.27 | Vincent20100 | ^ |
23:48.38 | Wormy | The positron may emit gamma radiation if it contacts an electron |
23:48.40 | The_Wood_Pulp | "pion." Yep, way out of my depth here |
23:48.54 | Vincent20100 | Hi Wood! |
23:49.11 | Hachiman_ | So my space chimps could use a stabilized variety of monopoles for stuff like medical technology via nano/picomachines |
23:49.46 | The_Wood_Pulp | That's Mr. Pulp to you, buster! |
23:50.47 | Wormy | I believe if monopoles are stabilised into magmatter, they may not actually catalyse baryon decay |
23:50.49 | Monet | I think the picoscale might be a bit too small for medical work aside from rearranging atoms to get an ideal element |
23:50.57 | Wormy | But rather, pass through matter |
23:51.04 | Vincent20100 | -_- |
23:52.04 | The_Wood_Pulp | I joke |
23:52.11 | Monet | Wormy pointed out above one of the more effective ways of making a monopole. Unfortunately the positron will emit damaging gamma radiation if it comes in contact with any normal matter. |
23:52.23 | Wormy | The net charge of a mag molecule is cancelled out to neutral |
23:52.28 | Vincent20100 | New to the IRC? :) |
23:52.29 | Monet | pions are alsounstable. |
23:52.46 | Monet | more gamma radiation |
23:53.01 | Wormy | Well, this will only happen if a free GUT-monopole comes in contact with a proton |
23:53.44 | The_Wood_Pulp | who me? |
23:53.51 | The_Wood_Pulp | Nah man |
23:54.18 | Monet | I don't know how useful monopoles will be in medicine but they might work wonders for computing and megastructures |
23:54.26 | Monet | Or making artificial black holes. |
23:54.42 | The_Wood_Pulp | That sounds weaponizable |
23:54.46 | Wormy | Monopole matter must interact with bayonic mattervia magnetic, not electric charges. But together it will pass through matter. I imagine it must be hard to contain magstructures, perhaps magnetically |
23:55.41 | Vincent20100 | Yes you Mr. |
23:55.49 | Vincent20100 | Never saw you before o_O |
23:55.51 | Monet | I'm trying to work out in terms of resources and technologuy required how to rate commercialisation of antimatter, monopoles and neutron-degenerate matter, which are the three main exotic material types we have. |
23:56.40 | The_Wood_Pulp | I dont come here often |
23:56.57 | Monet | We can already make very very very tiny quantities of antimatter, monopoles are so-far only hypothetical and the only place one can find neutron-degenerate matter in the modern universe is in the cores of neutron stars or, perhjaps, black holes. |
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23:58.58 | Monet | What else... |
23:59.30 | Hachiman_ | There's the trouble with making hi-tier cultures; the science and physics of it all |
23:59.37 | Monet | Well compared to other powers I'm sure they have pretty decent hyperdrive, maybe nanotech replicators? |
23:59.49 | Hachiman_ | Perhaps yeah |