IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140918

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00:26.20MasterMachineHello
00:26.46MasterMachineIf anyone sees Vince tell him I'm very sorry for my inactivity, but college has turned out to be a god damn time hog -_-
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00:55.37AngrybirdsHey!
00:56.20DrodoEmpireruns up and hugs Angrybirds
00:56.24DrodoEmpireYOU'RE BACK!
00:56.25DrodoEmpire:D
00:56.43AngrybirdsHi@ :F
00:56.48AngrybirdsHi! :D*
00:57.00AngrybirdsWait.
00:57.03AngrybirdsIRC is bugging on me.
00:57.20DrodoEmpireD:
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00:57.41AngrybirdsThe countryside of New England and New York (the state) is gorgeous.
00:58.11OfficerJackalHey! :D
00:58.22AngrybirdsHey Jackal. ;)
01:02.01AngrybirdsWe're on a college tour, and I just come from a college which is spread out over kilometers on the bank of a river, surrounded only by pastures, small white houses, and a forest.
01:02.30DrodoEmpireOh, nice
01:02.42DrodoEmpireI basically have that view every day. XD Gets boring after a while
01:02.55DrodoEmpireSeeing as I live on the edge of civilization; Nova Scotia.
01:03.13DrodoEmpire:P
01:05.20Angrybirdslol, it's less the view that appeals to me, but the peace.
01:05.45DrodoEmpireAh.
01:06.23AngrybirdsThe peace, and the people. It's a college which is very much geared towards intellectuals who want to educate themselves rather than obsess over grades.
01:06.51AngrybirdsAnd their theatre is simply AMAZING.
01:07.09OfficerJackalCool! :D
01:14.42Tek0516Angrybirds!
01:15.22Tek0516:D
01:18.18Tek0516~test
01:18.18infobotmethinks test is not funny
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01:18.28Tek0516Hello
01:18.34Knight_AlienHi
01:18.39Knight_AlienI am back.
01:18.54Knight_AlienFrom my Vanu Crusaidng :}
01:19.01AngrybirdsHey! ;)
01:19.14Knight_AlienHello
01:19.40Knight_AlienWe have been missing you.
01:19.52Wormy_ficPlease read, me and Tybusen discussed it.  Though it seems I turned into quite a macarbe and sad story http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Series_2/Preview#Recovering_Halcyon_B
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02:13.36OfficerJackalDrodoEmpire: Very, very, very belated loud and clear! :D
02:13.42OfficerJackalHello!
02:13.43DrodoEmpirehur
02:14.03Gorzillhi
02:17.20DrodoEmpireHey
02:18.24Wormy_ficFab source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXNYyaGzs4
02:20.07GorzillThat was rather disturbing.
02:20.25Wormy_ficThey tell me much of the things I post are.
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02:21.42Vincent20100HEy!
02:24.25Vincent20100...
02:36.35Knight_AlienVincent MM wanted you to know he is sorry for not beinging on lately for Colledge is hoging his time.
02:37.07Knight_AlienAlso Hi
02:37.51Knight_AlienUmm....Vincent20100?
02:53.30Tek0516~test
02:53.31infobottest is, like, not funny
02:55.46Vincent20100Yes
02:55.52Vincent20100thanks for the message, it's ok
02:56.20Knight_AlienAlright.
03:02.03Vincent20100I would like to see a new Cold War happen on the fiction-verse
03:02.31Vincent20100Like, divind the different empire within 2 or 3 Sphere of Influence, controlled each by a major or two major powers.
03:02.38Vincent20100*empires
03:04.00Vincent20100Like, the Republican Bloc, controlled by the New Cyrannian and all the empires in their Spheres VS the Imperialist Bloc with the DCP or Drodos and their Spheres of Influence.
03:05.25Knight_AlienThe Cold war is kinda happening.....
03:05.35Knight_AlienIn the Fiction universe.
03:06.23Knight_Alienhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism A Imperium under seige for it's crimes , the many unite for Oppresio or Freedom.
03:06.35Knight_Alien*Opression*
03:07.35Knight_AlienSo it is happening.
03:08.08Knight_AlienAnd if you really want a Cold war Iron curtain thing going on you could make it.
03:10.30Knight_AlienI would be up for it.
03:11.00Vincent20100Yes
03:11.04Vincent20100But the thing is,,,
03:11.15Knight_Alien?
03:11.16Vincent20100I'm kinda inclined to support the Civilization/DCP
03:11.26Knight_AlienHow come?
03:11.35Vincent20100I hate Drodos, but I still like France...
03:12.08Knight_AlienI will not Change your Mind but the DCP have been accused and have been proved to be using fear and acts of Genocide.
03:12.23Knight_AlienThe Allies are not perfect them selves.
03:13.07Knight_AlienSome wish for War so they can get their greedy palms on land while others just want Judgment for the Dcp.
03:13.32Vincent20100The thing is, the APR absolutly need to have access to the Galactic Core, controlled by the DCP and need the support of the Wartopia to destroy the Kiostrum Collective.
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03:20.20Knight_AlienHi , my internet messed up.
03:21.06Knight_AlienBut remember Vincent if the Allies win you will be shamed or Congradulated. And if the Dcp win you will be punished or Rewarded.
03:22.56Knight_AlienSo their you are Vincent20100 , will you choose the Top hat or bowler?
03:23.47Vincent20100Not sure
03:23.59Vincent20100I'm negotiating with some powers right now
03:24.34Knight_AlienWill you put your Differences aside with the ''common rable'' or let your Hatred grow.
03:25.21Vincent20100Knight = JEdi quotes right now
03:26.15Knight_AlienXD
03:29.07Knight_AlienThe APR hate the Drodo?
03:29.14Vincent20100Kinda
03:29.20Vincent20100it's more me and Drodo had some...
03:29.25Vincent20100.arguments...
03:29.34Knight_AlienThe Person?
03:30.54Knight_AlienAh.
03:31.11Knight_AlienWell not everyone can see eye to eye.
03:31.45Knight_AlienOr was it more ''Heavy Arguments''?
03:32.27Vincent20100I think you were there Knight
03:32.48Knight_AlienHmm.
03:32.53Knight_AlienBegins to think.
03:34.06Knight_AlienAh.
03:34.12Knight_AlienThe Ideal debate?
03:34.29OfficerJackalI think it was that, err...
03:34.31Knight_AlienTechnocracy , I believe.
03:34.32OfficerJackalYeah, maybe.
03:34.42OfficerJackalThere might have been another one as well, I'm not sure.
03:34.56Knight_AlienCommunism I think also.
03:35.19OfficerJackalBut anyways, I believe that OOC relations shouldn't impact IC relations between nations, and that the IC fictions should have relations that reflect IC events/beliefs/ideals and etc.
03:35.40OfficerJackalBecause putting OOC stuff into IC... Err... I've seen it first hand on some Gmod RP communities...
03:35.44OfficerJackalIt doesn't really end well. :/
03:35.54Knight_AlienYeah , like that one time.
03:36.34Knight_AlienWell I don't have the same Ideals as Drodo , I have discussed Robotic Implants with them.
03:37.07Knight_AlienI dislike Implants overall , being in me and in return I found many people liked it.
03:37.51Knight_AlienSo don't worry about that , I have discussed Religion also and it went well.
03:38.38Knight_AlienI think Drodo just doesn't like or Understand your philosophy , is all.
03:39.15Tek05166.6GB of memory... I really overdo my image sizes. XD
03:39.51Knight_Alienx}
03:40.23Tek0516Damnit, another crash. >.<
03:40.53Knight_AlienSo Vincent20100 what do you think?
03:41.15Vincent20100Well, here is my status
03:41.29Vincent20100I have 2 alliances to honour
03:41.47Vincent20100The one with the Civilization and the one of the Mou'Cyran Accords
03:42.11Vincent20100The Mou'Cyran members lean toward supporting the Civilization (AKA the DCp)
03:42.19Knight_AlienYour in the Accords?
03:42.24Vincent20100Yes
03:42.45Knight_AlienI used to be until it was erased from the universe.
03:42.48Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mou%27Cyran_Accords
03:42.57Vincent20100Check the members
03:43.20Vincent20100APR even have a small paragraph for him
03:43.28Vincent20100So here is the deal
03:43.32Knight_Alienah.
03:43.44Vincent20100IF the Mou'Cyran Accords officially join the DCp side, so will the APR
03:44.02Vincent20100IF!!!! the Mou'Cyran decid to stay out of this one, so will we
03:44.28Knight_AlienThe Accords are a Neutral Organization , what is this sides you speak of?
03:44.32Vincent20100Basically, the APR choose rather to honor their obligations with the New Republic rather than the DCP
03:44.46Knight_AlienThe Acords will once more dishonor their on goal.
03:44.55Vincent20100Well, the Mou'Cyran are kinda the New Republic' Sphere of influence
03:45.09Vincent20100They could support the DCp
03:45.25Knight_AlienBut they are a Neutral Organization for peace.
03:45.41Knight_AlienUnless the Rpeublic is Dictating or COrrupting them.
03:46.24Vincent20100Well...
03:46.35Vincent20100OTAN too is suppose to assure @peace@
03:46.44Vincent20100Doesn't mean it's really the case... -_-
03:47.08Vincent20100Well, the MCA are kinda the same way. They are kinda of the New Republic sphere in my eyes
03:47.52OfficerJackalHmm, but yeah, the MCA going to war is HIGHLY unlikely, even if they are a bit slanted towards the DCP side kind of. The members have both OOC'ly and IC'ly stated that they do not really want to become involved in the Gigaquadrant Conflicts or the Xonexian Schism.
03:48.08OfficerJackalTrust me, there was a HUGE fight over that.
03:48.25Knight_AlienThe Empire believes in Honoring things but if a Alliance is going down the path of dishonoring their own goal , we call them out on it.
03:48.37Knight_AlienIt was a more of Civil war , not fight.
03:49.11Knight_AlienAnd since we called them out we were erased from the books of accrods forever.
03:50.46Knight_AlienAll I am saying is , don't let a Neutral Alliance choose for you.
03:51.15Knight_AlienYou may miss out on a oppertunity and may Regret your choice.
03:52.35Knight_AlienThat is all I can mostly say.
04:07.51Knight_AlienIs eveyone still alive?
04:08.04Knight_Alien*Everyone*
04:09.08OfficerJackalYep! But yeah, I agree with Knight_Alien, you can join the neutral alliance, but you might miss out on something.
04:12.44Knight_AlienYou don't take losses but you won't get the spoils of war is all.
04:13.05Knight_AlienSo if the APR are up for it then go for it.
04:13.24Knight_AlienBut if their not then alright.
04:23.35Vincent20100Well here it is
04:23.48Vincent20100The APR officially left the Civilization
04:24.31Vincent20100The Popular Republic is now officially within the Sphere of Influences of the NCR
04:26.14Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Sphere_of_Influence_conflict
04:27.33Vincent20100Knight_Alien take a look at it
04:27.42OfficerJackal<PROTECTED>
04:27.44Vincent20100I uped the relation with the Eldarisian
04:27.52Vincent20100From Neutral to Good
04:28.12Knight_AlienI see.
04:28.23Knight_AlienWell that is great.
04:29.05Knight_AlienOver all well done.
04:29.18Vincent20100Basically, the way I see it from here is that the universe is spliting into 3 Blocs: The DCP with it's Civilization, the XA allies leaded by Orion, the Draco and the French
04:29.24Vincent20100And the Imperials States
04:29.47Knight_AlienBut if the Empire is now good with the Republic somthings DIplomaticly need to happen.
04:29.56Knight_Alien*Needs*
04:30.18Knight_AlienEmbassy,Trade routes,Accepting Religion/CUlture and so on.
04:34.00Vincent20100Yah...
04:34.02Vincent20100We will see
04:34.25Vincent20100I'm kinda grumpy about ...religion...
04:34.53Knight_AlienXD
04:35.27Knight_AlienDoes the Republic have a Religion?
04:35.39Vincent20100Nah!
04:35.47Vincent20100It's an atheist republic
04:35.59Knight_AlienAh.
04:36.12Vincent20100But let's see...
04:36.21Vincent20100We have vacation worlds...
04:36.21Knight_AlienYour Republic is very Technology based right?
04:36.29Vincent20100Tourism?
04:37.00Vincent20100Well, kinda
04:37.07Knight_AlienTourism is very Big for the Empire , it is a chance to learn other CUltures and Societties.
04:37.18Knight_AlienIt is a very big Income for the Empire.
04:37.25Vincent20100ArchetypeShaman/Zealot/Scientist
04:38.09Knight_AlienBut the Republic is a Technocracy?
04:38.11Vincent20100The APR's archetype is mainly Zealot and Scientist
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04:38.44Knight_AlienWell then the Religion of Cuth isn't that bad after all , it is fine with Technology and science overall.
04:38.54Vincent20100Scientist for their emphazis on specializations and Zealot for their ideological zeal
04:39.22Vincent20100Well, let's see what can I accept...
04:39.44Vincent20100I can accept temples being built on Vacation worlds first of all...
04:39.49Vincent20100And let's see...
04:40.09Knight_AlienBut the main Things the Empire does for Outsiders buying/selling wise is Tourism , Materials, Ships and weapons.
04:40.27Knight_AlienAnd they Give their Culture and Religion to those who want it.
04:40.58Vincent20100Because it's not about that tech is compatible with religion, it's that accepting religon would not fit with the overall theme.,..
04:41.00Knight_AlienThe French Bunsen COlonies are a Prime Example. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Bunsen_Colonies#Religion
04:41.47TekDroidhttp://i.imgur.com/hFbLbJR.png Behold!
04:42.09Vincent20100lol Tek
04:42.16Knight_AlienKatar Right?
04:42.18Vincent20100Tek, which side are you in the Schism
04:42.22Vincent20100?
04:42.28TekDroidXonexi.
04:42.39Vincent20100Okay
04:42.55Vincent20100I was leaning toward the DCp side, but I prefer stay neutral
04:43.01Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Department_of_Foreign_Relations
04:43.17Knight_AlienVincent The Religion of Cuth. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Religion_of_Cuth
04:44.16Vincent20100I know, I'm searching how to make the acceptance of your religion with the overall theme of the APR
04:47.40Vincent20100I will think about what I can do for Cuth
04:47.48Vincent20100By I have to go to bed for now
04:48.00Knight_AlienBye.
04:48.54Vincent20100I will try to find a way we could get closer -_O
04:48.58Vincent20100++
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07:30.21GhelaeHello.
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09:46.44GhelHello.
09:48.04Technobliteratorhii
09:48.41Liquid_InkHello, how are you?
09:49.12Technobliteratorfine, you?
09:53.35Liquid_InkPretty good.
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10:58.38GhelHello.
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11:28.05Knight_AlienHi
11:28.13DazelHi.
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11:33.59Wormyhi
11:34.05Wormy~seen Liquid_Ink
11:34.06infobotliquid_ink <79d016b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.22.185> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 53m 14s ago, saying: 'I heard the polls for Scottish independence were open?'.
11:34.29DazelIsn't all ink liquid?
11:34.46WormyNot if it dries out.
11:34.56DazelAha.
11:39.15AdmiralPandayou also have powdered calligraphy pigments, which can be considered ink but are applied dry
11:40.54Wormyfangirl screams
11:41.10WormyDavid Deutsch a quantum physicist answered my question
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11:45.19GhelHello.
11:46.07Wormy"How will we shop in 2020?"
11:46.12WormyJust as we do now...
11:46.38Wormyhis answer https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/512345152161976321
11:46.49WormyBasically, he doesn't know lol
11:48.36WormyNothing new here really http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28461134
11:48.57WormyThat could be built tomorrow.
11:52.32WormyGhel:  I had a dream we, on SporeWiki were all in a supermarket.  But we were in the 2nd dimension.  Somehow, light would travel through the walls and isles and we could see around corners where planes warped around the third dimension.  But then, we were all transformed into the third dimension.
11:52.54WormyXho was a demonic cow.
11:53.12WormyI can't remember what everyon-else looked like in the third dimension.
11:53.18GhelXho being a demonic cow makes all kinds of sense.
11:53.26Vincent20100What did I looked like? :)
11:53.30GhelIn particular, it would explain his manhandling of Cyr's AT-AT.
11:53.46Wormylol
11:55.37Knight_AlienI problably looked like a suit of armor or a Eldarisian.
11:57.26WormyXho was the last thing I remember Vincent.
11:57.44DazelUh-Oh!
11:57.47DazelYou've been...
11:57.49DazelEXCLUDED
11:58.05Knight_AlienXhoism is in Wormies brain.
11:59.31WormyCult of the Cow
11:59.53Knight_Alienyeah XD
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12:00.22Knight_AlienI need to go.
12:00.30Knight_Alienbye
12:08.57Vincent20100Hey Drom!
12:11.04Vincent20100Hey Worm!
12:20.33Wormyhi
12:24.38Vincent20100I saw the Schism thingy
12:24.50Wormywatuthink
12:25.06Vincent20100I considered joining the DCP side honestly
12:25.26WormyThe DCP think they are in the right.
12:25.45AdmiralPandavery few people start something because they believe they are wrong :P
12:25.49Vincent20100The DCP's ideology is also more "fitting" with ours
12:26.04WormyI'd agree.  The Alcanti Triad are like a group revolutionaries who want to break the order
12:26.34Vincent20100On the other hand... We are right next to Drodo. ^^
12:26.39Vincent20100And France
12:26.44WormyThe DCP's methods are wrong though, and possibly becoming stagnant of which I'll hint.
12:27.18Vincent20100I would basically feel like poking a beast with a tiny stick ^^
12:28.28Vincent20100And furthermore, I consider the APR to be more within the sphere of the Mou'Cyran Accords
12:29.04Vincent20100Since it include the Naajikan, the Waptorians...
12:29.37WormyThe Alcanti Triad will end up regretting their pact.  I can't reveal spoilers but its obvious wants happens when you provoke an already enraged DCP.
12:31.27Vincent20100I don't see the Alcanti anywhere...
12:32.16WormyIts the TIAF, Orion League and Draconis Imperium mainly
12:32.29Wormy*Draconid
12:33.15WormyYou see, the Orion War is really a game of chess between the DI and DCP
12:33.31Vincent20100Yah
12:33.52Vincent20100Well, the APR choosed to stay Loyal to the Cyrannian Republic first.
12:34.02WormyHumanity and everyone-else being the pieces
12:34.09Vincent20100Really?
12:34.21Vincent20100I though Humanity and Drodo were kinda stronk
12:34.34WormyThey are chess too
12:34.51Vincent20100Not as stronk as the DI?
12:34.53WormyOL doesn't realise it fully but the DI are using them in a way
12:35.29WormyThe DI are much stronger than the Drodo, I'd say Drodo are about equal to France alone in size
12:35.43WormyThats the impression I got from France's relations page
12:37.19WormyThe DI are about equal in wealth and tech to the DCP (except some hyperspatial technologies), but far outnumbered by the DCP's sheer size and industrial might.  The DCP after-all, forced a relentless fleet to attack the Dominatus in a monstrous victory that would cost most SporeWiki ciivs
12:37.46Vincent20100I see
12:38.09Wormyhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Battle_of_the_Deathstorm
12:38.19WormyThat was the turning point of the DCP's front
12:45.03Vincent20100I see
12:45.43Vincent20100Well Wormy, do you think the DCP has what it takes ti win this fight?
12:48.16WormyThe DCP won't win the GXS/Gigaquadrant Conflicts in the long run, they become the victim as much as everyone else involved, that's no spoiler.  But as I said, the Alcanti Triad will regret their pact.
12:48.41WormyThe Orion War and Mirus campaign is the first part
12:49.07WormyAnd then the war extends to other galaxies and everybody is devastated
12:49.24WormyOtherwise known as the Shattering
12:50.09AdmiralPandawell, the Shattering more has to do with the literal shattering of the hyperspace lanes going through Andromeda
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12:50.29WormyMe and Monet have discussed crossover though
12:51.02AdmiralPandaOh yeah, I'm just clarifying because the way you phrased it implied that what you described was the full extent of the Shattering
12:51.10WormyThe Milky Way's lanes and infrastructure, and space in-between it and Andromeda may become no-go areas too
12:51.15Vincent20100Well, on my side, the APR's allegiance ultimatly goes to the Mou'Cyran Accords, and therefor to the Nex Republic. We will follow them in whatever decision concerning this war is
12:51.49AdmiralPandaFortunately for everybody involved, the Fordanta are busy murdering people already
12:51.56WormyThe clever people are the ones in Mou'Cyran Accords
12:52.17Vincent20100*New
12:52.28WormyThey will be the shining beacon of what was left before
12:52.58Vincent20100I just hopes the Libertus have what it takes to stand up
12:54.49WormyThere isn't actually an end planned to this fiction, well I do have the DCP's penultimate story but that doesn't solve how the crisis ends
12:55.31Vincent20100I see
12:55.51Vincent20100I just love how the universe is splitting into 3 Blocs
12:56.00WormyThe hyperspatial aliens idea would probably come into effect at that point.  Though it is a seperate fiction, the consequences of both the War, the aliens and the Shattering will be really interesting.
12:58.13WormyI will also want to re-introduce Station Halcyon
12:58.26WormyWhich will play interesting roles I hope
12:59.11WormyAs usual, I'm over-burdened with stories http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Scrapbook#Planner
13:00.50Vincent20100But to what I understood, the New Republic was kinda leaning toward supporting the DCP, no?
13:01.23WormyMaybe, but their solution is different.
13:02.10WormyBoth the DCP and Republic discussed the ongoing calamities before setting up the Accords, no-one really knows what the enemy is.
13:02.29WormyThe Republic's response is create a neutrality haven
13:03.00WormyThe DCP's is to seek out and fight that enemy.  They recognise something is wrong and become increasingly heavy handed.
13:03.37WormyThey too have been played by whatever force/forces are causing all these events.  They too are a victim I guess.
13:03.55Vincent20100Maybe
13:06.11Vincent20100Personally Wormy, I would like if you could cripple Drodo EMpire ^^
13:06.27Vincent20100I want my Republic to get the upper hand on the Arm Market
13:06.53Vincent20100France, APR and Drodo are like the 3 main manufacturer on the market
13:07.39Vincent20100If France and Drodo, especially Drodo, could be cripple, I could get their shares. ^^
13:08.31WormyFantastic plot, unfortunately, it will be archived.
13:08.39Wormyby the logs
13:08.51WormyI do my plotting on another chatroom :P
13:09.26WormyWe'll see, I haven't really discussed the role of the Katar Sector
13:09.55WormyThe Drodo may leap to aid their allies, but all of this is up to DrodoEmpire.
13:10.00Vincent20100Archived... Is there really someone reading the Archives? -_-
13:10.28AdmiralPandamost users really
13:10.52Wormyaye
13:11.04Vincent20100...
13:12.00Vincent20100Anyway Worm, here is my idea. I leave you with it ^^
13:12.30Wormyokay
13:13.09AdmiralPandahmm, I just realised something
13:13.37AdmiralPandathe Fordanta have colonies in the Milky Way and Borealis, the Quadrants, and possibly even Cyrannus
13:14.11AdmiralPandathere isn't much stopping them from expanding their plan from the Ko'Sa'Va sector to their territories across the gigaquadrant
13:14.47OluapWorkerKeep Borealis out of this
13:15.21AdmiralPandaThat was a tad aggressive
13:15.25AdmiralPandabut no problem
13:17.13WormyI don't think Panda's plans involve the GXS
13:17.39OluapWorkerAnd you don't have colonies in it as far as I'm aware
13:17.53AdmiralPandaI thought they did, my mistake then
13:18.07AdmiralPandaand my plans don't involve gxs
13:19.12OluapWorkerThey can have some if you want, but I don't want any Shattering-related fiction in it
13:19.35AdmiralPandain that case don't bother, because the plans do very much involve the shattering
13:20.00OluapWorkerSuit yourself
13:20.34AdmiralPandait's quite hard to randomly justify their actions not extending to one specific cluster of colonies
13:24.02AdmiralPandanot that it changes anything, but the basic pretext of the arc is slapping the gigaquadrant in the face with the fact that the Fordan military goes straight to genocide, and asking "How do you feel about this?"
13:24.57OluapWorkerAnd I'm not willing to let someone genocide Borealis, so you may know why I don't want it involved in this
13:25.22AdmiralPandaTo be honest, I didn't doubt for a second you'd say no
13:26.20AdmiralPandait just struck me as the kind of thing you'd shut down, even if the targets of the genocide are mooks that exist purely for the reason of being genocided
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13:51.31HachimanhAI
13:51.34HachimanWoops caps
13:51.35OluapWorkerhai
13:51.42OluapWorkerYou're home early today
13:51.47HachimanOluapWorker: Your Erylia look fantastic
13:51.55HachimanAnd yeah because I finished a math test early
13:51.57OluapWorker:>
13:52.11HachimanFucking hate maths, probably failed it but meh
13:52.20OluapWorkerhur
13:52.39OluapWorkerThe new picture of Filonan and Daggis together is probably my favorite thing i've done in a while
13:52.59HachimanI love Filonan's posing
13:53.10HachimanHer hair is also really nice
13:53.19OluapWorkerShe's supposed to be resting on Daggis' chest
13:53.33HachimanAye I can tell she's leaning
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13:56.15OluapWorker_Wow rude
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13:57.03WormySo I was listening to Skyrim music
13:57.13WormyAnd my Mum tells me its hippy music
13:57.16WormyWTF
13:57.26Hachimanhur
13:57.32WormyBecause its about dragons and being a hero
13:57.59WormyI protested that Dovahekiin slays dragons rather than loves them, but no avail
13:58.05Wormy"My son likes hippy music"
13:59.35Wormy_laptopSkyrim has died  little today
13:59.44Wormy_laptopin me
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14:06.16JepardiHi
14:06.35DazelHello.
14:24.50WormyHachiman:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc.com/earth/bespoke/story/20140908-twisted-world-of-sexual-organs/index.html
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14:56.45OluapWorkerGoddamnit
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15:18.37dromGoddamnum, Vincent is not here.
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15:25.20Vincent20100Hey!
15:25.33dromGoose
15:29.44Vincent20100Well
15:29.50Vincent20100HAve you seen the edits I made?
15:30.14dromYup.
15:32.36dromI'm disconcerned with the year dates.
15:32.44Vincent20100Yah...
15:32.57Vincent20100I tried to made the project like it was spray over time...
15:33.14Vincent20100It is all editable
15:35.36dromI'm going to change it to 2803 and the last date to either 2805, 2806.
15:35.45dromCause tier2-3 and the time flies fast.
15:36.28Vincent20100Yah
15:37.14dromIt will be like 2804 around November-December this year.
15:37.51Vincent20100You can make it end sooner, like in 2801
15:37.58Vincent20100By making the project start earlier
15:38.17dromI guess that the fictionverse years go 5-10 years each earth year.
15:39.12Vincent20100That's also my guess
16:00.11Vincent20100I added a new thing on the market
16:00.23Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Firearms
16:00.33Vincent20100The Revolted 2. The page link is working
16:01.35dromAnyone got suggestions for a virus disease besides history and applications?
16:01.54Vincent20100What do you mean?
16:02.25dromSuggestions for more sections
16:02.26dromand content
16:03.17dromHm. Effects?
16:03.46Vincent20100We already discussed it's effect, about how it work
16:04.11dromHow it affects Aemonkians and other species.
16:04.35Vincent20100Well, we said it fed on Marrow bone, forcing stem cell to adapt and produce more
16:05.05dromYes. I know already. I was asking about how the page should be divided in.
16:05.13Vincent20100Well...
16:05.29Vincent20100Applications includ it's use as bio-weapon?
16:05.42dromAlas, yup.
16:05.50Vincent20100http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140917170332/spore/images/d/d3/Revolted_2.png
16:06.15Vincent20100The right picture show it's small pull-up ^^
16:06.37dromAlgolurn's economy really realies on export?
16:06.43Vincent20100Kinda
16:07.25Vincent20100It export  mainly pharmaceutical stuff, electronic and computering stuff and weapons
16:08.10Vincent20100Because I love making weapons model on spore ^^
16:09.04Vincent20100For the virus well...
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16:10.14The_RandomnessHello everyone
16:10.55dromHai
16:11.04dromoh no, something bad is happening with my stomach
16:11.07drombai bai
16:11.20Vincent20100The Rocket is ready to lift off Drom!
16:12.02Vincent20100Hi Randomness
16:12.10Vincent20100I think we never really talked togheter
16:12.45The_RandomnessI don't think we have talked much, so you're probably right there
16:13.10Vincent20100What is your fiction?
16:13.44The_RandomnessSalsetthe Republic, although I've been inactive a lot and so most of it is still a WIP
16:14.09Vincent20100I will take a look
16:14.32Vincent20100Ho!
16:14.39Vincent20100I already seen that logo
16:14.43Vincent20100Mou'Cyran Accords?
16:15.12The_RandomnessYes
16:17.06Vincent20100Here, I have added the basis for the Relations section
16:17.31The_RandomnessWhat did you just do?
16:18.06The_RandomnessIf Recentchanges didn't crash my phone browser I would check that.
16:19.27Vincent20100...
16:19.32Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Salsetthe_Republic#Relations_with_other_Empires
16:20.18The_RandomnessThat is mine to add, not yours, and I know very well how others do it.
16:21.03Vincent20100My bad
16:21.29Vincent20100Here
16:23.09HachimanUgh it's so hot for September
16:23.14HachimanShould be cold by now
16:23.16Wormy^
16:23.22WormyIndian Summer
16:23.46The_RandomnessVincent20100: Have you undone your addition?
16:24.02Vincent20100yah
16:24.09The_RandomnessGood
16:24.12Vincent20100:)
16:25.14Wormyy u keep deleting dcp quote
16:26.30The_RandomnessNot my fault, I think.
16:26.53dromVincent20100: You wanted something about the virus?
16:27.41Vincent20100No, you're editing it drom?
16:27.57dromDone.
16:28.10Vincent20100I will take a look.
16:28.16dromNot so much content to add. Because I'm not really in the mood to write much today.
16:28.33Vincent20100ok
16:28.41dromBut I'm still on the mood to talk and I'm very happy to answer to questions.
16:30.53dromVincent20100: Lemme add my fiction's icon too.
16:31.05Vincent20100Yah
16:31.22Vincent20100You can just give me the link to your flag and i will add it
16:32.43WormyReminds of that scene in Hot Fuzz http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-29249537
16:34.09dromVincent20100: Yoink!
16:34.35Vincent20100Your logo is bigger than mine!
16:35.36Vincent20100It is all about the size! People saying otherwize just have a tiny one!
16:36.33dromAt least it wasn't my dong this time.
16:37.38Vincent20100:p
16:38.13Vincent20100Trying to deisgn a torpedo on spore...,
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16:40.39dromHello.
16:40.39Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10653579_1519234088293661_7176611501750247338_n.jpg?oh=223ffbe7639f999820a47dfd5733d92f&oe=5490A67A&__gda__=1422116112_badf5ecbf2120a095436851d0e96a942
16:40.41HachimanHai
16:40.43MonetHello
16:41.29Monetdrom: Just saw the page for RI-1. If you guys need advice with viral agents or gene therapy I'd be happy to help out.
16:41.53The_RandomnessHey Monet
16:42.17dromThanks for the offer Monet. We'll look into it.
16:43.08dromIt's basically a virus designed to force an evolution for Aemokians. But it provides to be fatal for other species. As it firstly targets and attacks the lungs and the bone marrow.
16:44.16Vincent20100Love the pict btw?
16:44.29MonetOh yeah it's amazing
16:44.51HachimanSo an engineered vrius that is designed to enhance one species while negatively afflicting all others despite the Aemons being isolationists that don't know anything about alien physiology and biology up-close
16:44.55Hachiman*virus
16:44.57Vincent20100I took it from Plague Inc
16:45.40The_RandomnessI personally doubt the viability of such a virus
16:46.05Vincent20100They sent us dead bodies and some criminals to test on them
16:46.47MonetHachiman: I'd say you may have point there. Unless there's a specific genetic marker within the Aemorkian genome that keeps them utations controlled.
16:47.08The_RandomnessOn Earth viruses are able to be transferred from species to species on occasion because they're relatively similar genetically. A virus that could affect species from different planets is almost impossible.
16:47.22MonetActually yes.
16:48.14WormyI have to agree with Random
16:48.23Vincent20100Well honestly, there are several things on spore wiki that wouldn't work in reality
16:48.31The_RandomnessThat's beside the point
16:48.47MonetAn alien disease from another tree of life is unlikely to affect us because its so...alien.
16:48.58The_Randomness^
16:49.09HachimanIf you're on about Essence, it's magic so we ain't gotta explain shit
16:49.13MonetEven something as disparant as a plant is still, what, sharing 50% of its genes with humans?
16:49.18WormyWell, better could be done.  It could be a form of nanotechnology, or even bionano that can morph into effecting alien biochemistry and structures.
16:49.20Monetdisprate*
16:49.39Vincent20100Guys, this virus has no background, it was artificially created
16:49.47Vincent20100The DNA of it was made from scrathc
16:49.51HachimanThat's also beside the point
16:49.52Vincent20100*scratch
16:50.02WormyWho says all aliens use DNA the way we do
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16:50.08The_RandomnessA biological disease still has these limitations
16:50.19WormyOr that their cells can receive the shape of the virus
16:50.27Vincent20100That mean it isn't alien to anything particular
16:50.34MonetThere are aliens on the wiki whose DNA is not made up of a hydrocarbon compound - like silicon-based life.
16:50.44Vincent20100It was designed specially for them using their own bodies
16:50.58MonetThe virus will definitely still work to enhance the Aemons
16:51.04WormyI suggest, that it isn't a virus in the sense of Earth's kind.  But smarter and more technological.
16:51.17MonetBut its very likely will do absolutely nothing to an alien host unles its an Aemon hybrid.
16:51.24Vincent20100I agree with Monet
16:51.48Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10438557_1056248684404584_7629214254074509972_n.jpg?oh=165253dd6f961cc157f0f10bba9adf44&oe=548DB953&__gda__=1418968024_b7ff049925a1cf53d36085e972b5dd50 I don't usually post these but this is clever
16:51.55WormyA virus requires a specific environment for them to replicate in.  It won't replicate in anything-else like a pool of mud.
16:52.06MonetMaybe it doesn't have to be a combination biological weapon and super-soldier-serum?
16:52.16Vincent20100Wrote on the Fur
16:52.40Vincent20100^ Hachi
16:53.04Vincent20100Specific environment is the Aekomon bodie or specific labs conditions
16:53.05MonetI see a tiger-like thing in the bamboo on the right.
16:53.46Vincent20100Monet, it is wrote on it's fur
16:54.03Monetrolls eyes
16:54.07WormyMaybe the fact is, is that it is hidden
16:54.08Monet"hidden tiger"
16:54.10Vincent20100So yah, I can agree it may not be used for bio-weapons
16:54.16The_RandomnessHeh
16:54.17Vincent20100The Hidden Tiger
16:54.31Vincent20100THE is even wrote
16:55.05WormyI read it, but I couldn't see "Tiger", I saw The Hidden
16:55.15Vincent20100Tiger goes on it's legs
16:55.18WormySo I was still looking
16:55.19MonetHow is it able ot be distributed?
16:55.27The_RandomnessI was looking everywhere but on the tiger hur
16:55.27Wormyduh
16:55.32Vincent20100It is injected at birth
16:55.52Vincent20100OR transmitted by parents
16:56.23MonetRight, so the modifications are controlled by the level of injection and when the host is still a newborn?
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16:59.35The_RandomnessI must be going, see you guys later
17:00.00Vincent20100Yes
17:00.01Vincent20100HERE
17:00.08Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:RI-1
17:00.08MonetThat's a good time really, it's the best point to allow to a host to grow into their enhancements. Second to insemination of the enhanced genome while the baby is a cluster of eggs
17:00.18Vincent20100I added specifications concerning the Creation
17:01.35MonetTheoretically any disease natural to the Aemons would have a resistence ot the acid blood.
17:02.04Vincent20100yah, but since this one was made from scratch, it had to be inserted into the desease gene by scientist
17:02.09MonetActually that's one of the drawback to acid blood - both blood cells and foreign microbes will have developed adaptations in order ot survive.
17:02.26MonetFor native diseases
17:02.30Vincent20100That's the bonus of the virus
17:02.46HachimanVirus
17:02.51HachimanIs it actually contagious
17:02.54Vincent20100It will feed on Marrow bone, forcing the Stem cell to reproduce faster and therefor making more blood cells
17:03.03Vincent20100Contagious for who?
17:03.13Vincent20100It's injected at birth inthe Aemonkians
17:03.25MonetHachiman: By the sounds of it not really. Which is possible
17:03.29HachimanThen it's not a virus if it's not contagious among them
17:03.41GhelawayA virus doesn't have to be contagious, but those that aren't tend to die out in the wild.
17:03.57dromDepends on ways of tranferring. But it's not that contagious. But it can provide to be contagious, as it will mutate in an non-targeted body.
17:04.05Vincent20100It is contagious, but they will be purposly infested at birth so, the will not get the desease over the years
17:04.08MonetActually it could still be congagious within cells, most viruses require some kind of adaptation in order to survive outside a living body.
17:04.20HachimanIt's not contagious, it's not malignant, it's not a virus
17:04.31Vincent20100It is contagious. -_-
17:04.38HachimanYou just said it wasn't
17:04.46Vincent20100If it was infected to only 1 dude, it would spread
17:04.53Vincent20100But it's not 1 dude
17:05.01Vincent20100Everybody will be injected it
17:05.01GhelawayWhat's important for a virus is that it reproduces inside living cells (and isn't a cell itself), but if it is contagious then the whole point is moot.
17:05.01MonetA virus is primarily classified as a shell of protein encased around a strand of RNA that reproduces via parasitism.
17:05.04dromVirus doesn't have to be contagious.
17:05.29Vincent20100If everybody is infected, than who does the virus has to contage?
17:07.06dromPathogen is also an sort of RNA-organism?
17:07.10MonetThis virus could simpl lack the genes to survive outside of a living organism, which is entirely possible given the artificial anture.
17:07.34Monetdrom: Pathogen = any disease-causing microbe
17:07.48dromDayum.
17:07.51Vincent20100Hachi: like Meningitis
17:07.57Vincent20100Meningitis is a virus
17:08.18WormyI could see the engineered virus mutating and becoming contagious, but I get the impression that it wouldn't matter if it infected people if evereybody had it.
17:08.29Vincent20100But if everybody on earth was purposly injected Meningitis (for somne reason) than who would be contagiate?
17:08.34WormyIn normal circumstance
17:08.49MonetAlso regarding this idea of the DNA being built from scratch: Perhaps it would be easier and cheaper to modify an existing Aemon genotype than try and construct the entire DNA sequence form scratch.
17:08.58dromIs there DNA-based pathogenes?
17:09.01WormyIt could still spread though, it just wouldn't be visible unless it mutated.
17:09.39Gheldrom: All pathogens besides RNA viruses use DNA.
17:10.08Vincent20100Can we also assume guys that all sentient specie on the wiki use DNA?
17:10.13Vincent20100Except maybe machines
17:10.14MonetThe human genome contains, what, exactly 3 billion genes?
17:10.15GhelNo, not all of them.
17:10.24WormyWell, there's prions if you are willing to define them as pathogenic.
17:10.24GhelAlthough perhaps a majority do.
17:10.31Vincent20100Ok
17:10.36Vincent20100That good enough
17:10.45Vincent20100So we will assume Aemonkian use DNA
17:10.47GhelObviously, non-carbon-based organisms can't use DNA.
17:11.00Vincent20100Yah...
17:11.03HachimanIt's likely that alien DNA is also probably so distant from what it is you're trying to implement that it won't be effective
17:11.14HachimanAside from on Aemons
17:11.28Vincent20100Well, true
17:11.37MonetVincent20100: Even if all lifeforms have DNA, there's a likely chance that they are incompatible.
17:11.38Vincent20100We may have to forget the idea of bio-weaponize it.
17:12.10MonetYeah it seems like a strange addition to me.
17:12.18GhelEven if there were panspermia and all DNA-using organisms use similar enough DNA, use as a bioweapon isn't very feasible anyway.
17:12.36MonetBioweapons are very messy.
17:12.37Vincent20100Panspermia = travelling in sperme? o_O
17:12.54Hachiman"Oh this thing increases all the strengths of my species and because it's viral it automatically kills everything else" also sounds incredibly Sue-ish
17:12.57GhelPanspermia = life across the universe shares a common origin.
17:13.39Vincent20100I see.. ^^
17:13.50MonetThe US and USSR tried developing bioweapons against each other during the COld War, but both largely gave up on the idea of using them when they realised that these bioweapons were as likely to massacre their own peple as well as the enemy nation.
17:14.08Vincent20100I see
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17:15.17WormyDid I K-line?
17:15.53WormyAnyway, I was about to say, there is always some chance a virus could mutate.
17:15.59Monet" The acid blood of the specie was a problem solved by making the virus cloak itself in it's own "bubble environment" when travelling through blood. " >> I'd say this problem could be solved via giving te virus a mucus layer of some kind.
17:16.24Vincent20100That was kinda of the idea here
17:16.26WormyOf course, you don't have to use virus's like they exist in the biosphere/
17:16.28dromIt doesn't have to be a RNA virus.
17:16.35Vincent20100That it surrunded itself in something
17:16.37dromOr the DNA kind.
17:16.43GhelWormy: Possibility of mutation would be a good reason to make it non-infectious.
17:16.50Wormyyes
17:16.56Monetstomach walls are protected from their own acids by a lining of mucus.
17:17.10WormyI wouldn't accept nanomedicine that could replicate itself
17:17.17Wormylol
17:17.33Vincent20100mucus or muccus?
17:17.54Monetmucus
17:17.59Vincent20100Aren't we accepting nanorobots self-rplicating already?
17:18.13dromThere's "nanities" too.
17:18.21WormyI have an idea about transmission
17:18.22GhelWormy's saying that if it existed in real life, he wouldn't want any inside his body.
17:18.38Vincent20100Ho okay
17:19.11GhelThe alternative but similarly high-tech method being artificial stem cells which mass-produce the bots.
17:19.44WormyPerhaps the virus only replicates itself in a bacterium, and the bacterium only lives in the body for a certain time period.  That could still mutate but might be easier to treat.
17:20.30WormyGhel:  I'd have nanotech in my body, just not ones that build themselves, they might glitch up
17:20.33MonetViruses don't just affect eukaryotic cells, yes
17:21.11WormyWell phage therapy uses a virus that kills infectiious bacteria, now such a virus is extremely unlikely to jump the gap.
17:21.24GhelYou've still got to get the viral DNA (or equivalent compound) inside the Aemonkian cells, though.
17:22.09WormyWhat if it doesn't do anything to the cells?  And controls symbiotic bacteria?
17:22.11dromThere's still the alternative of stasis treatments.
17:22.21WormyThen again thats more like using nanites
17:22.40MonetGhel: Maybe the virus is programmed ot affect both bacteria and body cells?
17:23.11MonetWait
17:23.21dromDidn't the blue aliens from SG-U use a pathogene to transform Nicole to one of them?
17:23.48WormyI only vaguely remember SQ-U
17:23.51WormySG
17:24.10WormySG1 is the best
17:24.10Monetdrom said that this virus initially attacks bone marrow and lungs. Maybe Aemon blood cells get converted into carriers-s-lash-virus-factories?
17:24.34Vincent20100Yah
17:25.38WormyMy suggestion was to use a bacterium that does the job, only when the virus is injected.  But then...  Horizontal gene transfer between different bacteria.  Its also very complicted vs. an injection of nanites
17:26.05WormyWhat if the nanites construct a biological factory in the body, and are never required again?
17:26.31MonetI was going to say, adminsitration i nthe correct places is another question
17:26.37dromThe idea behind attacking the lungs as one of the two first was to make them amphibious os they can breath in stasis liquid. But it's also been a great choice, since the modified blood cells -virus carriers- will flow among outthrought the system.
17:29.09GhelThe bone marrow would make a good virus factory, modifying/adding to its repertoire of blood cells, so in that case it might produce several distinct types of viruses, which each target different tissues and organs.
17:30.30dromThe infected cells doesn't have to work like what Earth's viruses do to our cells.
17:30.48dromThough, for a good effect, it had to work like that in the first phase.
17:30.59GhelWhat I'm thinking of is that specialisation is better than generalisation for cells.
17:31.10GhelSo the initial injection would convert the bone marrow.
17:31.26dromUntil the modified organs are able to produce cells that transmit the new dna to other cells without killing them or turning them into virus factories.
17:31.28GhelThen the bone marrow produces other cells or viruses, some of which - for example - go on to modify the lungs.
17:31.30WormyIf those highly specialised niches are very strong, any mutations might actually die off quickly
17:32.15MonetThis is why I suggested it could be made by modifying an existing Aemon genome, rather than making a new DNA strand completely fro mscratch
17:38.02MonetThinking about it...inserting what could be entirely new clusters of genes is pretty advanced stuff.
17:38.16MonetFeisable, but advanced.
17:38.52WormyOh yes, check this out http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Station_Halcyon/Series_2/Preview#Recovering_Halcyon_B
17:39.07WormyGets a bit sad and macabre at the end
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17:39.27MonetI'd say that creating a new DNA molecule from scratch is a step above creating extremely modified present genomes.
17:39.36Wormyhi
17:41.51Vincent20100MOent, we are in the space age I mean...
17:41.56Vincent20100It's still possible
17:42.00Vincent20100*Monet
17:43.01MonetI'm not saying it isn't.
17:43.01GhelIt's possible, although you'd realistically use already-existing DNA sequences whenever reasonable. Of course, if no known proteins are of any use for the virus's purpose, then you'd have to do the whole thing from scratch.
17:43.14Wormy'murika https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-lmcdlq4A
17:43.43MonetGhel: For a project like this we'd be looking at some realy exotic modifications
17:44.28GhelHence there might not be many natural proteins that are useful for it.
17:45.17MonetI mean in order to warrant such a path
17:45.40GhelAh, I see.
17:45.40MonetStuff like amphibious breathing must be findable in nature.
17:46.50WormyWeren't they able to access ancient genes in chickens?  Making them grow teeth and long claws?
17:47.37MonetSomething like that
17:47.38GhelI can't remember whether it's been done, but it should certainly be possible.
17:47.48MonetOr we're working towards that
17:48.23GhelWhich is another sort of thing RI-1 could do: cause epigenetic changes, not just genetic modification.
17:48.23MonetI mentioned the other day at the Ta could have modified themselves via this kind of artificial atavism.
17:48.27Wormyhttp://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_building_a_dinosaur_from_a_chicken?language=en
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18:02.08Vincent20100By the way guys
18:02.09Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Revolted_2
18:02.18Vincent20100Tell me what you think of this!
18:02.46TekDroidHello
18:02.49Vincent20100Hey
18:03.59MonetThat's a pretty good gun made withi nthe creator
18:04.23Vincent20100yah
18:04.29Vincent20100the gun on the right
18:04.43Vincent20100I add a small pullback
18:04.56Monet"The Revolted 1 use expansive to manufacture thick bullets of 5.53×55mm" what does it mean by expansive?
18:05.19Vincent20100The bullet cost a lot to manufacture
18:05.27TekDroidexpensive.
18:05.34Vincent20100My bad
18:05.49Vincent20100Can you correct this type plz? ^^
18:06.21Vincent20100Done
18:06.49Vincent20100thx
18:07.00Vincent20100I will corect it on the other places
18:08.05Vincent20100There.
18:08.13Vincent20100That make more sense now
18:09.29Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Firearms
18:13.36Vincent20100I have to go guys
18:13.41Vincent20100See you later?
18:14.17MonetOkay
18:14.21MonetDat Klak L30
18:14.31Vincent20100I love it too ^^
18:15.31Monethttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_of_the_Future my mind has been blown reading this book over the past few days.
18:16.00MonetThe sort of stuff we may get over the next 50, let alone 100 years is surprising
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18:16.46CyrannianHello
18:16.55Vincent20100Hey Cyrannian!
18:16.55OluapWorker~punch Cyrannian
18:16.56infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
18:16.56CyrannianI keep forgetting my new password.
18:17.04Cyrannian~tickle OluapWorker
18:17.04infobotACTION jumps on OluapWorker, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
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18:19.03MonetOh wow rigin is offering peopl a free compy of Bejeweled 3....
18:19.08MonetOrigin*
18:19.40MonetIs Bejeweled the most ambitious they can offer?
18:20.03HachimanBejeweled is the most worthless
18:21.43MonetGreat marketing strategy EA
18:22.09MonetI think i've come to a conclusion: EA prefers ot sell to casual or bro gamers.
18:22.13MonetNot dedicated fans
18:22.52MonetSince no matter how many times they re-release the FIFA games, peop lstill buy them.
18:23.25TekDroidYeah.
18:24.13TekDroidTheir sports games are just the same game with slightly upgraded graphics and an updated roster
18:25.32MonetAnd yet afaik the big names are still profitable year on year
18:25.32HachimanI used to think like that, but then I realized; sports don't change either
18:25.50HachimanThey also just get changed literally by roster rather than gameplay and rules
18:28.03MonetWow.
18:28.25MonetMy wondows are closed and so are my doors and I just discovered a moth trying to fly out my wondow
18:29.06MonetMy bst guess is he was skeeping under these sheets of tin-foil I have on my wondowsill.
18:29.14Monetwindowsill*
18:29.25CyrannianOluapWorker: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140918031321/spore/images/d/dc/Filonan_Aerember.png - this is awesome
18:29.50MonetOr he was hiding in the darkness between the wall and the curtains
18:30.19HachimanWhy are your doors and windows closed
18:30.22HachimanIt's hot as fuck hur
18:30.56OluapWorkerCyrannian: Thanks! I'm quite proud of it
18:31.46MonetHachiman: The handle of my flat room window is jammed. Although it didn't feel that hot for me today.
18:32.06MonetIt might be because living back in Kent, I get the North Sea winds blowing in
18:32.52Hachimanhttp://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/are-chimps-natural-born-killers
18:33.09CyrannianThere are far too many people on my timeline putting up 'inspirational' posts about a Yes vote in Scotland's referendum. And by inspirational I mean pictures and quotes from Braveheart.
18:33.26Hachimanolol
18:33.50MonetWait is that insensetive?
18:34.29MonetWilliam Wallace -was- executed quite horribly for his protests I think
18:36.30WormyI wonder when we'll find out about the vote
18:36.54HachimanWhen we take their freedom
18:37.57dromFucking britannia
18:38.07CyrannianI could understand if they were actually Scottish, but it's just bored Irish people wanting independence just to spite England. Even though an independent Scotland would be a major competitor in terms of attracting international business rather than warm and fuzzy fellow Celts banding together
18:38.12dromStealing everyones' freedom.
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18:38.23OluapWorkerSon of a bitch
18:38.59MonetI sill question the viability of Scotland being both independant and a major economic power
18:39.25HachimanHave you even looked at America
18:39.34dromPolan comik https://i.imgur.com/zCgs68k.jpg
18:39.46MonetHachiman: America had the advantage of being huge and diverse
18:40.04Monetas well as the landmass only partially-explored when it first became independant.
18:40.29HachimanKeep in mind you won't find any Brits in Scotland
18:40.34HachimanSo really it is unexplored territory
18:40.46MonetNot what I meant
18:42.30MonetLooking at patterns, what Scotland needs is a game-changer discovery
18:42.43HachimanThey have oil
18:42.45HachimanWe don't
18:42.57HachimanThey have nords
18:42.59HachimanWe don't
18:43.27MonetAmerica had the New World, China has its remoteness, the Middle East has its vast oil reserves, India has a huge growing population of tech-savvies
18:43.40MonetALso China has population and industry.
18:43.52MonetAnd rare-earth metals
18:44.08HachimanKeep in mind that Japan is a superpower and is sitting on top of practically nothing
18:44.44HachimanIt's a resourceless land that is terrorized with earthquakes
18:44.56MonetOkay. So perhaps Scotland goes Japan's way.
18:45.10MonetBecoming a major industrial power
18:45.20CyrannianPersonally, I'm neutral about it. I won't lose any sleep if they vote for independence. And yes, Scotland probably has far more resources than Ireland and the Republic, despite still recovering from the recession, is still one of the richest countries in the world.
18:45.47HachimanScotland also has a very well-preserved cultural identity, as shown by its separate laws from the rest of the UK
18:46.08MonetThat may help for tourism
18:46.28CyrannianPersonally I think more devolution within the UK is probably the best option, but that's just my opinion.
18:47.10HachimanPersonally though I think that all the guys who are itching to vote "yes" will end up voting "no" so as to not upset the status quo and risk an even worse economic situation
18:47.18MonetThe bulk of japan's success came from what China and India have ridden on: Offering cheap manufacturing labour, foreign investment and a drive towards industrialisation.
18:48.33MonetAnime may be what everyone thinks whe nthey look at Japan now but that's a recent phenomenon.
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18:49.46HachimanWell not entirely
18:49.59HachimanIf you mean in the last century recent, yeah
18:50.35HachimanAnime and manga has been around since the American occupation of Japan post-WW2
18:50.46MonetYes but was it a phenomenon?
18:51.01HachimanWell yeah it was to the Japanese public
18:51.13MonetI mean internationally.
18:51.16HachimanAnd then later to the Western world
18:51.51MonetI've played enough strategy games to understand that the really big money is in international markets.
18:52.02HachimanI think it's been popular in the western world since the 70s-80s
18:52.12MonetThat's what I mean by recent.
18:52.19HachimanDue to the likes of Akira and Studio Ghibli
18:52.36MonetWhat got Japan out of the ashes of WWII was investment in its industry.
18:54.03MonetI'm seeing more of a trial-by-fire for Scotland.
18:54.14Monetif "yes" is the majority vote
18:54.26Hachiman"I'm seeing more of a trial-by-fire for Scotland." -> Japan was nuked twice hur
18:55.23MonetEither Scotland will decline further into obscurity until the only way to survive is to join back with England. Or it goes though an economic rough patch for several years before it starts crawling back up the economic ladder.
18:55.30HachimanIf the vote is "yes" then I imagine that they'll be fine and won't collapse immediately in on themselves like a black hole
18:56.19MonetIn regards to what currency an independant scotland will use I haven't heard much response on it.
18:56.28MonetAnd the consequences of the currency switch
18:56.48MonetThey certianly won't get a positive response for still using the British Pound.
18:58.07MonetActually Its jsut come to me...As Cyrannian may have hinted this perhaps isn't about a long-term goal. The entire continent is swept up in a tide of right-wing nationalism.
18:58.49MonetScotland happens to have taken it a step further.
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18:59.55ImpyDroidHello again
19:00.11CyrannianI think this is more left wing nationalism, which isn't necessarily a bad thing in my book.
19:00.43CyrannianHello
19:00.57HachimanWe're just talking about Scottyland again
19:01.04MonetHi
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19:01.09DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
19:01.17MonetI'm not sure which wing this whole thing is
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19:02.47MonetHi
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19:02.52XhoEvening
19:02.58dromHello.
19:03.03dromDid Zmr56 get online?
19:03.15OluapWorkersou
19:03.17OluapWorkerspu even
19:03.25Hachimanups
19:03.49CyrannianScottish and Irish nationalism is mostly left-wing, as in they tend to be against race-based nationalism and imperialism. What annoyed me about those statuses was that most of them seemed to be made from a prospective that still sees the UK as being an imperialist power trying to curtail Scottish self-determination.
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19:04.35Xhou
19:04.42OluapWorkerhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140918023215/spore/images/a/a8/Erylia_Elves.png c nu fiya alfs
19:04.44CyrannianWhich is silly, since they are getting a democratic referendum which is more than most can say.
19:05.30XhoPelagrios - fiya dunt matter                     the dong treats all equally
19:05.52DrodoEmpireCyrannian: I agree; If the UK where imperialists then they wouldn't ven entertain the idea of independence
19:05.57DrodoEmpire*even
19:06.13ImpyDroidI do not see why Scotland seeks to secede personally
19:06.28ImpyDroidI do not understand most European seccessionist movements anyway
19:06.39MonetI'm with Impy
19:06.52HachimanBecause you're Russian and you do not understand European motives
19:06.56Hachiman:P
19:07.14dromI'm Nordic and I think I understand.
19:07.16OluapWorkerstik dat tongue up ur ainis
19:07.24ImpyDroidThe overall tendency of history is towards unity, not division
19:07.24MonetHe happens ot live in a part of Russia that's the most exposed to European influence
19:07.30Hachimandrom: Scotland's technically nordic as well
19:07.42dromYep. That's what I understand.
19:07.44ImpyDroid"The Gateway to Europe", yep
19:08.17ImpyDroidI understand nat
19:08.59ImpyDroidRussia has its own separatism problems but we solve it with representation (sort of)
19:09.04HachimanScotland wants out of the string of crappy British politics that have been influencing their counytry
19:09.10Hachiman*country
19:09.39CyrannianThere are some points in favour of independence which I feel are legitimate, since the Scots are a minority in parliament and I could understand that some feel powerless to influence it because of that.
19:10.10ImpyDroidWe may be an authoritarian country but our federal subjects have a great deal of independence and representation
19:10.58MonetI dobut that they'll beocme free of shitty politicians by seceding
19:10.58HachimanI do wonder if the UK and Scotland will come to blows if independence gets declared
19:12.06ImpyDroidDoes Scotland have its own legal system and/or parliament?
19:12.07MonetWe could end up seeing Animal Farm: Scotland breaks off rom england to escape its corruption only for its own politicians ot become corrupt themselves.
19:12.27TekDroidMonet: from what I've seen, probably
19:12.37dromImpyDroid: I guess both. Because they have got their own parliament.
19:13.06ImpyDroidBah, you merely adopted corruption
19:13.16ImpyDroidWe were born in it, moulded by it
19:13.18TekDroidScotland seems to think it'll magically become a Scandinavia-style government.
19:13.30CyrannianImpyDroid: It has a devolved government
19:13.48ImpyDroidDevolved as in?
19:14.56TekDroidI personally think we'll see an attempted repeat of 1707 eventually: Scotland goes broke and needs a union.
19:15.27ImpyDroidWe didn't fight corruption 2000, by then it was nothing but debilitating
19:15.50CyrannianIt has authority over many home affairs though ultimately below the government of the UK as a whole.
19:16.47ImpyDroidSo what exactly is wrong then if they have representation and can govern their own domain?
19:16.59XhoNothing really
19:17.03HachimanTheir representation means fuck all
19:17.11XhoAlex Salmond is a bit of a megalomaniac
19:17.17TekDroid^
19:17.24HachimanHe is but I feel he's not really unfounded
19:17.58MonetMaybe having amegalomaniac president is a bad move for Scotland
19:18.08HachimanMonet: Murica
19:18.18XhoWell we have 650 megalomaniacs at the moment
19:18.23XhoIt's called parliament
19:18.25HachimanBut whether or not the Scots get freedom means little to me really
19:19.05MonetXho: Dat generalisation
19:19.25ImpyDroidHeh, megalomaniac leaders
19:19.30XhoWell name one politician of whose face you don't want to punch
19:20.04MonetGlegg sorta
19:20.10MonetClegg*
19:20.34CyrannianI kinda like him too
19:20.44MonetI feel sorry for him
19:21.02XhoClegg is full of broken promises
19:21.24XhoI mean the whole tuition fees fiasco was pretty much because he promised 'to lower tuition fees'
19:21.31XhoInstead they rise to £9000 a year
19:21.33MonetPromises he had little power to uphold.
19:22.01MonetAccording to a press conference a Tory-only government would have pushed those fees even higher
19:22.04Hachimanbrb dinner
19:22.07XhoThen again I hate all politicians
19:22.35MonetThere's this Green Party MP who tried pushing to investigate and re-evaluate the UK's drug policies
19:23.06dromPolitics are a bullshit. I want to build a spaceship and escape from this shithole.
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19:23.41CyrannianThe smaller party in coalition almost always faces the brunt of public outrage when a government becomes unpopular even though I doubt if they have much power to actually challenge the larger party.
19:24.17XhoPretty much every political party is unpopular at the moment
19:24.23MonetThat's my problem with having a majority party - who can oppose policies agreed thoughout said party\?
19:24.26XhoExcept for UKIP since the country is going to pot
19:25.34CyrannianPersonally I think party politics is fundamentally dumb.
19:26.07XhoIdiots trying to lead idiots is bound to fail anyway
19:26.15dromI hate it when politics usually exploit peoples' stupidty.
19:26.27XhoAs long as you have a private education and money you can be a politician
19:26.49XhoOf course people break that mould but you can't tell them apart at face value
19:28.29dromI usually complain about our politics and how it affects other nations.
19:28.52dromI even said that our immigration policy will affect other nations so they can isolate themselves from immigration.
19:29.19drom"Meh, let Sweden take this problems instead. It wants alot of them, best idea ever!"
19:29.41CyrannianSpeaking of the UK, I have relatives from Manchester over so I'll be back in a while
19:32.07Xho'Manchester'
19:32.11XhoHardly England I must say
19:32.49MonetLol
19:33.52MonetManchester is one of those places that's in England...yet its not English
19:34.44MonetPart of me wonders that if Scotland breaks off, will Wales join them one day?
19:35.22XhoProbably
19:35.33XhoI think anything that's not London can only vaguely be called England
19:35.48XhoAs far as politicians are concerned, if it is not London nor the south-east it isn't worth thinking about
19:36.05MonetWhat about Oxford?
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19:38.22MonetActually here's what we should have seen: Even during his "call me dave" stint, Mr. Cameron neverreally bothered with his home constituency
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19:50.00dromMy parents say that I should be a politican. Is it because I'm so- convicing and explain how problems affect each other?
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19:54.13dromWatchin' Tower Heist
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20:08.15MonetReading though a provided list of extracts that relate to my first year's first project...I think I'm enthralled
20:08.48MonetIts an extract form a book called "Invisible Cities", and it describes cities that are beautiful, surreal, focusing on a particular aspect.
20:09.06MonetI'm getting a euphoric rush imagining these places.
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20:15.13DrodoEmpireHey Wormy
20:15.17Wormyhi
20:15.31MonetHi
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20:20.52dromgoddamnit steam
20:21.10dromI played a video and left it on. It's still playing in the background even I closed it.
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20:21.26Hachiman_Back from dindins
20:21.36Wormydoggie
20:22.16MonetHallo
20:22.24OluapWorkerur a dindin
20:22.44dromThe video was ed edd n eddy episode dubbed in japanese
20:23.22dromand then an ad of swedes translating to japanese, in a google-translate-style.
20:23.31dromFeels more like a concidence.
20:23.40dromNot.
20:24.23Hachiman_"TODAY OVER IN THE UNITED KINGDONESIA MANY ARE VOTE WITH \M/ OR /W\ FOR IS SCOTLANDONESIA WILL LEAVE ENGLANDONESIA TO STRIVE FOR GUTTURAL INDEPENTALITY!!!!!!! INDONESIA WILL SAY FOR SCOTLANDONESIA "COME TO INDONESIA!!!!!!!" AND ENJOY FREEDOM WITH 666 PATTERN OF YOUR FACE WITH HAGGIS!!!!!!!!! CAN HAGGIS IS MADE FROM TIGER?!?!?! THESE ARE QUESTIONS TO ANSWER WITH INDEPENDANT SCOTLANDONESIA UNION!!!!!"
20:24.34Hachiman_On my Facebook feed
20:24.38dromWhat the fuck.
20:26.56Hachiman_\m/ for independent Scotlandonesia
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20:28.21OluapWorkerhow bout u ly off the shrooms
20:28.34WormyIs it to welcome victorious Scots to Indonesia?
20:29.05Hachiman_No, silly, Scotland will geologically migrate to Indonesia
20:29.17Hachiman_As in it will actually separate from the UK as a landmass
20:29.31WormyGood riddance.
20:29.55GhelI wonder how they'll find their new tropical climate.
20:30.10WormyMaybe they can stick their bagpipes down the Pacific Ring of Fire volcanoes
20:30.42WormyIt didn't go well last times the Scots migrated to the tropics.
20:31.01Hachiman_ur just a jessy, oaf-lookin' scooner callie-breek-tattie
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20:32.53GhelAh, yes, the last time Scotland broke off from the rest of Great Britain and went to equatorial lands. It caused a global superglue shortage when they decided they wanted to join the island back together.
20:34.08MonetScot - Ey, what's that giant thing up in the sky? | Scot 2 - That's the sun | Scot - O right...its too bright >> Frankie Boyle on a sunnier Scotland
20:34.16Wormywe shouldn't let that glue go to waste
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20:36.27GhelIf they split again, we might be able to scrape some off the north coast of England.
20:36.33GhelHello.
20:36.40WormyNo Abrams No.  Stahp http://time.com/3398688/star-wars-batman-jj-abrams-mashup/
20:36.42AdmiralPandahi all
20:37.08GhelWe're discussing Scotland's independence and what might happen if they seperate their land from the rest of Britain and move it to Indonesia.
20:37.47AdmiralPandaGhel: That would actually be kinda funny
20:38.01Hachiman_Scotlandonesia should separate from the United Kingdonesia
20:38.08MonetMy favourite Frankie Boyle joke on scotland is an anecdote about this guy who peed on someone's front door, then took out his keys and went inside.
20:38.28Hachiman_olol
20:38.57Wormydon't underestimate sheep what an idiot https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=892744840748576
20:39.24WormyI think the Scots could help the Indonesians plug up their volcanoes with bagpipes.
20:39.24Hachiman_I've seen that
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20:40.42WormyThe Indonesia will forever play the Scottish anthem.
20:41.08GhelHello.
20:41.10Wormyhi
20:41.26MonetBut wait...what if the Scottish bagpipes lead to a single super-eruption?
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20:41.58WormyThat was the plan all along
20:42.20WormyAnd then they'd send it to Englandonesia
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20:42.41Wormylike a giant bagpipe rocket
20:42.50GhelSo they'll use the spare bagpipes to blow it in the right direction?
20:42.51Wormymade of haggis
20:42.59Wormyyes
20:43.42WormySpitting Image - Bonnie Scotland Song   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPdkeYoW6aA
20:44.02XhoWell, I now have the Sword of Aeons and Jack of Blades' Mask in Fable
20:44.10AdmiralPandanice
20:44.14XhoI think I pretty much just won the evil route in Fable hur
20:44.23OluapWorkergud work chimp we're proud of u
20:44.32AdmiralPandaalso, congratulations on fighting the only actual fightable final boss in all of Fable
20:44.55Xhohur
20:44.59XhoFable is a bit easy
20:44.59Hachiman_Scotlandonesia needs to walk to Indonesia like an Egyptonesian
20:45.03Xho"a bit"
20:45.06XhoWell it's extremely easy
20:45.29XhoIf you have Berserk and Health Potions you can pretty much tank anything the game throws at you
20:45.32MonetAdmiralPanda: THat shadow monster from III comes close, seeing as you fight a posessed buy to kill it
20:46.11AdmiralPandaMonet: Yeah but that's shoehorned when the "evil brother" is presented as the main bad guy for half the game
20:46.47AdmiralPandaand as Yahtzee points out, he's perfectly justified in his dickery, just he never told people about the eldritch abomination from across the cosmos trying to eat everyone
20:47.13XhoWell at least I killed Thunder
20:47.16XhoThunder is extremely annoying
20:47.17MonetTHat would have crumbled the kingdom even faster than the shadow monster's assault ever would
20:47.39MonetIt would have caused mass hysteria if he told everyone that shadows would come to kill them all
20:48.34MonetAlthough was it shoehorned or did Moleneux keep his cards close tohis chest on that?
20:48.38Technobliteratoryo
20:48.39XhoRight now I've played the game as totally evil I can now play it as good
20:49.17MonetThe brother -had- know nabout this threat for years.
20:49.18XhoI still think Jack is the best villain in Fable
20:49.42MonetIts Jack vs Lord Pussy-face Lucien and the Evil Shadow
20:50.06MonetAlthough the evil shadow was a fucking arsehole
20:50.06Wormyfat cabinet ministers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg6OppvC5nM
20:51.09MonetActually yeah, I don't think Shadowguy was shoehorned in
20:51.30MonetTeresa talked about "the fate of Aurora", which means Dawn in Latin, the opposite of night, of shadow.
20:51.53MonetAlthough I admit the execution of the story could have been WAY better
20:52.55XhoThat and Jack is the coolest looking one of the three
20:52.59XhoThe Crawler is a bit asjjfadgsadjg
20:53.28MonetTwo parts of III were most memorable to me: the Revolutionaries' assault on Bowestone and exploring the lair of the Crawler
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20:53.59dromMan. I love this movie.
20:53.59Knight_AlienHi
20:54.00MonetI think I almost soiled myself once or twice with the latter it was so creepy.
20:54.04drom"The Tower Heist"
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20:54.55MonetThe Crawler's attack on Bowerstone however...I was simply "Wait is this it?"
20:55.51MonetOne fight in Bowerstone, after all the military the evil brother pushed for
20:56.24XhoAnd Bowerstone of all places
20:56.40MonetAt the very least I would have liked at least a beachhead defence level/scene.
20:56.54buildkirbyusSo- how does one create a star system page?
20:56.56MonetI wanted to see al lthat military porn dammit
20:57.16dromThere's no infobox for star systems as so far by now.
20:57.27MonetXho: Bowerstone makes sense since it seems to be the most populated area in Albion
20:57.57XhoTrue
20:57.59XhoBut Bowerstone
20:58.05Hachiman_https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10653803_813944655322277_7757813682099677061_n.jpg?oh=119643c97ed7827236743066b061e6f8&oe=5493DEBB&__gda__=1419107943_94384fa55790dd8ed4b9682d7b7b78c7
20:58.07MonetBowerstone is awesome.
20:59.56OluapWorkerhttp://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1409155880751.gif have a kitti
21:05.04Knight_AlienAnything new?
21:05.59XhoNot really hur
21:06.20XhoI'm currently wondering whether I could make a Jack of Blades expy because, well
21:06.30XhoIf you don't like Jack of Blades you need to be punched in the crotch
21:07.14Knight_AlienWell in other news , What do you guys think of the Game Grumps?
21:07.28XhoThough the only way I could make an expy like that would be an avatar of Caligaduro or Tlaharan
21:08.10Knight_AlienAh.
21:08.21XhoI dunno I don't watch Game Grumps
21:08.42dromKnight_Alien: In news of Sporewiki: Algolurn and NC are working on a pathogen which gives NC's species more strength. New Algolurn weaponry in the market. And a wide range of additions/cuts made to many different pages as usual.
21:08.46XhoMainly because I don't play video games that much hur
21:08.51dromPeople can mention them if they want to.
21:08.58XhoFable's the only game I've given proper attention to in years
21:09.04Knight_AlienI see Drom.
21:09.16XhoMonet: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=315674358 Well you can guess what I did here hur
21:09.39Knight_AlienWell based on the GG and every other big youtuber they seem to get a certain way.
21:10.02Knight_AlienThey get full of themselves and , well they just becoome liars on a camera.
21:10.15dromI find it funny how when wearing the mask won't make you look like a devil/demon when you put it on as an angel (very high karma).
21:10.16Knight_AlienHachis Pewdiepie is a example.
21:10.47dromAnd it gives you -999 karma. Which does all way down to the devil/demon karma.
21:11.02Hachiman_I think Dan and Jon from GG are fine, the others are meh while Arin is outright ugh
21:11.10Hachiman_I like Dan and Jon though
21:11.29dromIt's unclear if you get strengh from it. Because it have been a very long while since I played that game.
21:11.49Knight_AlienThe GG have a trying feeling to most of their videos but still some are like lieing to a camera.
21:12.04XhoI'm not even wearing the mask and I have full on devil appearance hur
21:12.21dromXho: Is there more effects of wearing the mask besides it being permanent and gives you instant devil karma?
21:12.35Knight_AlienPewdiepie used to do good professional Videos now he just screams and stuff.
21:12.41XhoNot really no
21:12.57buildkirbyusand have the most subs in youtube
21:13.03XhoSword of Aeons is probably the best overall weapon in the game I think
21:13.17XhoDoes 230 damage and is a lightweight weapon
21:13.25dromI played Fable 2.
21:13.34XhoThere's a weapon that does higher damage called The Bereaver but it's a heavyweight weapon
21:13.44dromSpoiler: The starting city in Fable is under water.
21:13.44Xhoy u no play first Fable
21:14.02dromXho: I got it before Fable 2 as a birthday gift from my sister's former bf
21:14.03Knight_AlienHis old videos have some great trying feeling and his new ''Professional'' Infamous series was terrible.
21:14.09XhoBetween the two games I preferred the first Fable
21:14.22Knight_AlienHe said he would try but mostly didn't say much.
21:14.28dromHow about 3? I have never played it.
21:14.38Knight_Alien3 sucks.
21:14.56Knight_AlienFable 3 was bad.
21:15.13Cyrannianhai
21:15.17Knight_AlienHi
21:15.24dromThe silver keys was a pain in the ass to collect in Fable 1
21:15.54dromEspecially when you had to break inside other peoples' houses to get them.
21:16.24drom(I hate Kraken)
21:16.34Knight_AlienAJ sus up most of my Hate for Fable 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSaw85bliyQ&hd=1
21:16.42Knight_Alien*Sums*
21:17.45dromTo bad that literaly 100% of those videoes made by popular celebrities have no captions.
21:18.37dromHm. It was the Fable: TLC edition I played.
21:21.28dromThis is how Kraken looked like in TLC. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110817232714/fable/images/thumb/b/b2/370318-fable-the-lost-chapters-windows-screenshot-the-legendary-krakens.jpg/1000px-370318-fable-the-lost-chapters-windows-screenshot-the-legendary-krakens.jpg
21:22.35dromAnd here's the anniversary one http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140210031530/fable/images/4/45/Fable_Anniversary_Kraken.jpg
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21:33.39dromApprently it was Reaver from Fable II who destroyed Oakville.
21:33.54dromOakvale*
21:35.09XhoSounds about right
21:35.16XhoScythe is one creepy character
21:38.32dromThe reason behind the destruction of Oakvale and the area around it -better known as Warithmarsh- was much due to Reaver who want to forever stay young. So he made a deal with demons. So, yeah, it killed all residents and showed no mercy to those who lived.
21:38.58dromNobody could save the living from the "shadows".
21:39.52dromI heard about this, but I never knew about it was the fucking kid that I escorted all the way through the mid-last chapters of Fable 2.
21:41.13dromMan I surely forgotten all about Scythe.
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21:41.33dromBut not the prison and the first encounter with Jack.
21:42.07dromBy back when i played the game, I was like - I have no idea what to do when I was in warden's office.
21:42.49dromAssuming that I lived like 40-50 years in the prison until I figuered it out.
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21:48.59Hachiman_Hm I wonder what to call my space monkeys if anybody remembers me talking about them
21:49.30dromMonkeys?
21:49.42dromAh, I remember how you nicked my Aemons.
21:50.27Hachiman_Aye, I talked about a spacefaring culture of provolved, biologically augmented and technologically assisted (yet culturally independent) space monkeys a while back
21:50.55Hachiman_Most likely consisting of chimpanzee-bonobo descendants
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21:51.59dromWell. You can still put a placeholder name for them.
21:52.13dromSo you can rename the page whenever you find a better name.
21:52.44Hachiman_I know but I just wanna get a few things established first before I start doing stuff with them
21:52.51dromPanbonzee?
21:53.03Hachiman_dats silly
21:53.25dromb-but monkeys are silly
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21:53.32AdmiralPandaSo… Notch left Mojang because Minecraft became famous? Not sure if good guy or hipster
21:53.54Hachiman_He left because he sold Minecraft to Microsoft
21:53.56drom... why not, both?
21:53.57buildkirbyusNo- he left because he 'finished'
21:54.20buildkirbyusoh jeez if microsoft actually owned minecraft...
21:54.31AdmiralPandaHachiman_: I know that, but his reasoning for selling was because he didn't want to be a part of something big and ground-breaking. He's going back to small scale stuff
21:55.01Hachiman_Well, perhaps he's just a modest guy
21:55.04dromI think it's kinda smart for one who isn't familiar with big stuff. Even a big-seller like his Minecraft.
21:55.16buildkirbyuswe need more people like that in the world.
21:55.20AdmiralPandaHachi: Yeah that's probably it
21:55.45dromHe will go away with his title and earnings.
21:56.14dromAnd he can either live off with the earnings or start a new "small" hobby with it.
21:56.18Hachiman_Although he's got $2 billion in his pocket from Microsoft and other cash he's made from Minecraft
21:56.43AdmiralPandaoh oh oh I forgot to mention, someone's making a spiritual successor to Chrome Hounds!
21:57.05AdmiralPandaI have basically never been so hyped about a game
21:57.33Hachiman_Perhaps he wants to remain an independent developer like he was back when he started Minecraft, and now that it's in Microsoft's hands for them to take care of he has nothing more to add or contribute
21:58.26dromCHROME HOUNDS?!
21:58.31dromGib source plz
21:58.58AdmiralPandahttp://www.bombdogstudios.com
21:59.31AdmiralPandait's still early in development, but I've seen some early gameplay and it's basically Chrome Hounds
22:01.52dromAh yes.
22:02.16dromChromehounds was fun. Too bad that it didn't last that long.
22:02.38AdmiralPandaChrome Hounds was A) the first shooter I really enjoyed on its own, and B) the only game that can make a soda can on legs an actual epic bossfight
22:03.09Hachiman_AdmiralPanda: Saints Row IV
22:03.19dromAye. I really hated those Cereabus hounds.
22:03.34AdmiralPandaHachiman_: nah, that was just a regular fight against a really big soda can
22:03.53dromWith 20 machineguns mounted to it
22:04.00Hachiman_But it was epic nonetheless hur
22:04.46AdmiralPandahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zeYhixJYs behold the soda can
22:07.50buildkirbyusthose aren't mgs, those are missiles.
22:08.27AdmiralPandait has MG's as well
22:08.44buildkirbyusthe guy is just staying out of range. like a smart person
22:08.59AdmiralPandathat's basically how you had to fight any of the superweapons
22:09.18AdmiralPandathat pack had three heavy gunners though, so they were going to have an easy time anyway
22:09.34dromI can see 4 mgs mounted at the front
22:10.01AdmiralPandadrom: it had about 8, maybe 12 mgs total, but the missiles were what worried you most
22:10.34dromI see.
22:11.05dromI remember the level where you had to fight against an sniper hound.
22:11.35AdmiralPandaew you're talking about the single player
22:12.07dromBecause I hadn't any interwebz for it by then
22:12.11AdmiralPandathe 1-p was a wipe, all you needed was a fairly default Soldier RT and you could finish any mission except that one artillery
22:12.45AdmiralPandathe multiplayer was what made the game great, its core design made it probably the best tactics-based shooter ever
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22:13.57The_Wood_PulpHi everybody
22:14.00dromToo bad it didn't live so much far that I could get a bit of it
22:14.14AdmiralPandathe super weapon missions were unlocked after a LOT of fighting in multiplayer, so it really felt like something you'd earned, and the fights were epic
22:14.15Liquid_Inki’ll only make a couple of characters and they’ll all have something important to do with each others plot! https://31.media.tumblr.com/15f62d5c0acda57be869c1a3e61dd42d/tumblr_inline_nbpm39TyqJ1rlu1av.gif
22:14.54The_Wood_PulpI...have actually done that to pizza rolls
22:15.26The_Wood_PulpArranged them in a neat little circle like I'm trying to summon the totem spirit of broke college students
22:15.35Hachiman_https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10712975_936593896387801_6085923443035997316_n.jpg?oh=2d9ea7a8ddd220c6b50085ab7bbaf538&oe=549105AC&__gda__=1418309062_1a26ba994e861758c309368d9eba628d So the Chuckle Brothers are recording with the rapper Tinchy Stryder
22:16.43Wormylol
22:16.49WormyI follow them on Twitter
22:16.52dromalright I need get to bed.
22:16.54dromSee ya.
22:16.56Wormybye
22:17.55The_Wood_PulpHey does anyone here live in UK?
22:18.09Hachiman_Yup, me and Wormy do
22:18.11The_Wood_PulpAnd if so do they know the result of the Scottish thing
22:18.20Hachiman_Not yet, we'll find out tomorrow
22:18.28The_Wood_Pulpk
22:18.37Cyrannian'tis exciting
22:18.54Hachiman_Wormy: Do you have any suggestions or ideas regarding my space monkeys? Stuff like technological scale and culture and stuff like that, I wanna make them seem more unique and outside of the standard "furry humans"
22:19.20Hachiman_That is, if you remember me talking about them
22:21.27AdmiralPandaHachiman_: One thing I'd say is they'd probably place great cultural weight on territory; maybe even having a feudal system of governance
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22:22.02The_Wood_PulpIf they're like monkeys, they would probably have a weird familial system
22:22.17Hachiman_Feudal? As in, like daimyos, shoguns, commoners, etc?
22:22.29Hachiman_Never thought about that with monkeys before
22:22.44The_Wood_Pulplike gorillas where there's a silverback who controls most of the females and smaller males who break off now and again to join other groups
22:22.57Hachiman_Ah now that makes sense
22:23.41WormyHachiman:  Maybe their cities are more like in the trees, but purely technological
22:23.42The_Wood_PulpOr also like gorillas they might not be territorial, always migratory and on the move
22:24.09WormyMaybe they live in hives, without roads and with buildings built into each other
22:24.13AdmiralPandaI was thinking more in the sense of european feudalism, wherein the higher-ups divide their terrain between their subjects, which results in a hierarchy of owing other people moeny
22:24.18The_Wood_PulpHive monkeys?
22:24.22WormyEarly humans lived like that
22:24.28Wormyyeah
22:24.46AdmiralPandaas in, the king splits his land up between the barons, who split their land amongst the knights, who have the peasants work said land
22:24.59Hachiman_AdmiralPanda: Right that works
22:25.07The_Wood_PulpOr maybe they're like the monkeys in the Jungle Book where they have no ruler and live in perpetual idiotic anarchy
22:25.18WormyThere was one ancient culture that never built roads or had a hierachial leadership.  They put their houses together and each house was connected by ladders and corridors or roof tops
22:25.19Hachiman_Wormy: How'd you mean? I'm having trouble picturing this hur
22:25.25AdmiralPandaanarchy doesn't work for a sustainable heirarchy
22:25.57AdmiralPandasustainable civilisation, w/e
22:26.01WormyThis culture lasted a long time you know, before it was conquered
22:26.15WormyMight have been static society though
22:27.07Hachiman_When you say "hive city" I'm imagine cities that are built upward rather than outward
22:27.25Hachiman_http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101226021440/warhammer40k/images/f/fb/Hive.jpg Like this
22:27.42Hachiman_Not sure if that was what you meant though
22:27.55The_Wood_Pulpyeah I'm just spitballing. "monkey civilization" brought it to mind
22:27.56AdmiralPandaoh hive cities how I do love thee, especially when one well-placed melta charge can bring the whole thing down :D
22:28.38WormyHachi:  I'm thinking of the culture I mentioned, or possibly, a city in the trees although the Ape city doesn't have to be in actual trees
22:29.39The_Wood_PulpIt seems like their methods of transportation could be split equally between pedestrian and brachial locomotion
22:30.19The_Wood_Pulplike sidewalks that split off into rope-like structures leading upwards and joining a different sidewalk
22:30.30The_Wood_PulpIDK just brainstorming
22:30.36Hachiman_Ooh that sounds nice
22:30.51Hachiman_Their cities would be twisty-turny structures
22:31.03Hachiman_Although that would make it hard to support vehicles
22:31.51AdmiralPandaI'm imagining a cluster of skyscrapers with Halo-style gravity launchers connecting the buildings
22:32.52AdmiralPandaalso, you are keeping bonobo diplomacy I presume?
22:33.50Hachiman_As in, lots of shagging?
22:33.56AdmiralPandabasicall
22:34.01The_Wood_PulpVehicles would probably have hooks on top for cables to grab and lift them to different levels of the city
22:37.13AdmiralPandabonobo diplomacy is second best diplomacy
22:37.43Hachiman_aYE
22:37.45Hachiman_Aye*
22:39.19AdmiralPandabest diplomacy is of course super weapon diplomacy
22:40.43The_Wood_Pulpoh gosh
22:40.48The_Wood_Pulpstahp
22:40.51The_Wood_Pulp=)
22:41.30AdmiralPandawhy though? talking about bonobo diplomacy is hilarious, because there's probably one person here who doesn't know what I mean by that
22:42.50AdmiralPandahm, I just imagined a sporewiki Hound Pack, I'd be Defender and Xho would be Soldier, but not quite sure who would fill out the other RTS
22:43.07Hachiman_What would I be? :P
22:43.08WormyHachiman, Cyrannian Update on the news:  A poll done after the votes suggest the No vote will win, a 52+% to 46%, possibly because Yes voters are more likely to bottle it than No.  Interesting pyschology there, we'll see how it bares out
22:43.31CyrannianA ten year old Cyrannian was traumatised when he learned about bonobo diplomacy while watching what he believed to be an innocent documentary about funny looking monkeys.
22:43.33WormyIt was more than 52 but I forgot
22:43.46AdmiralPandabahaha
22:43.53WormyBonobo diplomacy?
22:44.39WormyThe debate now is that if the no vote succeeds, and Scotland gets more freedoms, so should England have those new freedoms
22:44.47AdmiralPandaWormy: A) thanks for proving my point, and B) solving everything with sex
22:45.06Wormyi c
22:45.29CyrannianAt least it means that you won't need to rename yourselves the "United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland".
22:45.58AdmiralPandaHachiman_: well, you have the Sniper, so somebody who's quick-thinking, precise, and doesn't really care that he doesn't get any respect outside of his own team, the Heavy Gunner, who's patient and clever and also doesn't care about getting no respect outside of his team
22:46.15CyrannianThough a small part of me wants to see how much the status-quo would change if Scotland does gain independence.
22:46.23AdmiralPandathe Scout, who runs around grabbing radar towers and finding the enemy commander to spank them, and the commander, who tells the rest of the Pack where the enemies are so they can be spanked
22:46.34AdmiralPandaneither of whom get much respect outside of their squad either to be honest
22:47.28AdmiralPanda(in case you haven't guessed, people outside of the squad only ever seem to notice the Soldier because he kills things, or the Defender because he doesn't die)
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22:50.15Hachiman_http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/18/scottish-independence-union-jack-union-flag_n_5841084.html?1411042145 Some of these flags look nice
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22:51.29AdmiralPandaactually that's a good point, we'll need to change our flag too
22:52.04AdmiralPandaalthough, since the inclusion of the union jack is basically in homage nowadays, we could probably just keep it the way it is to say "well Scotland was important to us too"
22:52.22Hachiman_Could be a memoir
22:52.24AdmiralPandain fact, that's precisely what I would do (25-40% scottish here)
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22:52.43CyrannianI'm sure a green union jack would go down very well with Northern Ireland's hard-line unionist community.
22:52.56The_Wood_PulpYes
22:53.11The_Wood_PulpImagine if you had to convince America to change our flag...
22:53.37The_Wood_PulpI think you would probably get invaded
22:59.45Hachiman_https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10606349_1519302251620178_158426984790133185_n.jpg?oh=1b2b68bcadd12fef6428699be9768317&oe=54CAE63D&__gda__=1418512865_02e476645849e497965dfa27bf584e05 ohgod CNN is so fucking illiterate
23:00.30AdmiralPandawhat's the equivalent for illiteracy but with numbers?
23:01.02AdmiralPandaoh god, solo developing a short flash game asking the player just why the fuck they love killing things is slowly reducing my ability to use the english language
23:01.49Hachiman_Perhaps you should speak English in more situations rather than Australian
23:01.50Hachiman_m8
23:02.10AdmiralPandabut Australian English is fun
23:02.39AdmiralPandain what other dialect is "fuck yourself sideways with a double-ended chainsaw" regular fare?
23:03.59Hachiman_Australian English is like a boomerang; the Brits threw it a fair distance, waited for a bit, and then it came back and hit them so hard in the head they went down under
23:04.12AdmiralPandaprettymuch
23:04.21AdmiralPandalike everything, we took the best bits of Britain and made them more fun :P
23:04.40Hachiman_Except the criminals
23:04.49Hachiman_Since you don't take those
23:04.59AdmiralPandawell, not anymore
23:05.09Technodroidwhich best bits of Britain? :o
23:05.11AdmiralPandabtu the ones we did take were the kind that stole bread to feed their families, so we're cool with taking them
23:05.37AdmiralPandaTechnodroid: Basically everything, we just added more sarcasm and a general disregard for authority
23:05.55Technodroidohh
23:06.46Technodroidso, you made our boring stuff less boring?
23:06.46Technodroidor, un-boring'd it?
23:07.07AdmiralPandamore or less
23:07.46Technodroidman, I'd love to go to Australia one day
23:08.43Hachiman_Technobliterator: "so, you made our boring stuff less boring?" ur not british hur
23:08.49AdmiralPandawait till we deal with the fuckwit in Canberaa
23:09.33TechnodroidI've lived here long enough to be :o
23:09.34MonetBack
23:10.08CyrannianYou aren't British?
23:10.09Hachiman_How long have you lived here?
23:10.52Hachiman_Cyrannian: Jo comes from Lithuania
23:11.38WormyHachi, Cyrannian, Monet:  Whatever happens tonight, according to the BBC, there will be sweeping changes in England, Wales and Northern Ireland
23:11.38CyrannianOh yes
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23:12.00WormyUK will not be the same either way yes or no
23:12.22Hachiman_Wormy: Scotlands votes no to independence and Britain kicks it out of the UK anyway hur
23:12.27TechnodroidHachiman_, I've lived here my whole life
23:12.29WormyYou know, I think the world is entering a Postnational age
23:12.33Technodroidall 17 years of it
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23:12.53Hachiman_Technodroid: ur only 17 u scrub
23:12.57Hachiman_git on mah lvl 18
23:13.04MonetWormy: I'd say it varies. But first Europe must go through a phase of nationalism
23:13.52WormyIt will be different throughout the world
23:13.54Technodroidnah m8
23:13.54Technodroidim mlg pro
23:14.07Hachiman_moar liek mlg underage
23:14.11WormyHah hah, you are still teenagers hah hah
23:14.36Technodroid:'(
23:14.36Hachiman_Wormy: You're closer to being an old, wrinkly OAP than us
23:14.38MonetBitch please lvl 22 here.
23:15.05WormyI read that as Oluap
23:15.14Hachiman_oh deer
23:15.40Wormyhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329851.500-in-our-world-beyond-nations-the-future-is-medieval.html#.VBtnaPldV8E
23:15.45Wormyinteresting
23:17.42The_Wood_Pulp"hotchpotch." didn't even get past the first sentence without learning a new word
23:18.15CyrannianMy favourite word is "nincompoop".
23:18.19Hachiman_Once I get the details down for my space chimps I might write a solofic about a group of monkey "voidwalkers" (astronauts) discovering some pseudo-true alien shit or something
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23:18.49Hachiman_Wormy: Once I get the details down for my space chimps I might write a solofic about a group of monkey "voidwalkers" (astronauts) discovering some pseudo-true alien shit or something
23:18.53MonetI've talked before on DA about ho the Internet may be breaking borders down
23:19.18AdmiralPandahuh, apparently I'm a higher comparative level than I thought I was
23:19.29AdmiralPandaI figured you guys were a bit older tbh
23:19.37The_Wood_PulpMy favorite word is pusillanimous
23:19.53Hachiman_My favourite word is c*nt
23:19.56Tek0516I'm in a discussion with a group of people who are oceans away.
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23:20.14Tek0516*realtime discussion
23:20.20AdmiralPandabahaha Hachi
23:20.23AdmiralPandathis is why we keep you around
23:20.23qwebirc759230faulty connection
23:20.30The_Wood_PulpI just asked a person in the UK a question and he responded before I got bore.
23:20.30qwebirc759230wha\t did hachi say
23:20.38The_Wood_PulpWe live in an age of miracles
23:20.41CyrannianOne of my favourite things about IRC is the ability to interact with people from across the world.
23:20.47qwebirc759230yey
23:20.47Tek0516Aye.
23:20.51AdmiralPandahis favourite word in the english language is a more offensive word for female genitalia
23:21.03The_Wood_PulpCan't
23:21.05The_Wood_Pulp?
23:21.13Hachiman_Aye, c*unt
23:21.15WormyAre we talking about drom's use of the c word?
23:21.21Hachiman_Woops
23:21.22The_Wood_PulpOh my gosh
23:21.25The_Wood_PulpYep they
23:21.34The_Wood_PulpYep they're from britain
23:21.42Hachiman_Oh well I fucked up the censor like a cunt
23:21.44Tek0516In this conversation we have people from at least 3 continents.
23:21.49Cyrannianhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjiMdj-CcAAZcAd.jpg
23:21.57MonetCyrannian: Agreed. Here on the IRC it doesn't matter if you're from China, japan, Indonesia, Brazil, the US, France, Belgium or Australia.
23:22.04MonetWe're all users here.
23:22.06Hachiman_Cyrannian: ohgodlol
23:22.25AdmiralPandabahah
23:22.30The_Wood_PulpNEW TOPIC ALERT!!!! Explain your username
23:22.40AdmiralPandanah
23:22.43AdmiralPandatoo long
23:22.46The_Wood_PulpWood pulp means absolutely nothing
23:22.53Hachiman_My wiki username was a result of me being a fucking furfaggot
23:23.02AdmiralPandahonestly, explaining my username would take as long as everyone else put together
23:23.03Hachiman_I'll change it at some point probably
23:23.06WormyWormy - I'm an infectious wyrm that eats your brain and steals your knowledge/
23:23.10The_Wood_PulpAnd what is your wiki username
23:23.12WormyNot a worm
23:23.16Wormya Wyrm
23:23.21MonetWormy: That article and a recent book are making me rethink how to make solid and accurate Science Fiction.
23:23.23Technodroidmine has a long reasoning behind it
23:23.24CyrannianMy username conveys the fact that I'm the administrator of Borealis
23:23.44Hachiman_Technodroid: yee biobliterators
23:23.49AdmiralPandaTechnodroid: A long reasoning originating from Ratchet and Clank 3 :P
23:23.57TechnodroidBiobliterator is from Ratchet & Clank, Techno is from some FFVII line :o
23:24.09Technodroiduh ninja'd but yeah
23:24.20The_Wood_PulpI read a really cool book by Orson Scott Card about writing sci fi and fantasy
23:24.22AdmiralPandaok, where do I start my story? when did Halo 2 come out?
23:24.28Tek0516Tek0516 was a username I apparently used for a site but only found out about the account when they notified me during a mass password change. 05/16 is my birthday. :P
23:24.42Hachiman_Wormy: Once I get the details down for my space chimps I might write a solofic about a group of monkey "voidwalkers" (astronauts) discovering some pseudo-true alien shit or something
23:25.07WormyDo they start flinging the alien shit?
23:25.19Hachiman_Fucking goddammit Wormy
23:25.51AdmiralPandaok, so 10 years ago I got into online multiplayer, and I had a friend whose username was AViolentLemur, which stuck in my mind to such a point that when I got into computer-based online gaming, I made an account called AGrumpyPanda, which started the whole panda thing
23:25.52The_Wood_PulpFIRE POO TORPEDOES!! YES CAPTAIN!!
23:26.11MonetThing is a Prof. Kaku's 2011 book "Physics of the Future" made me realise how close we are to several science-fiction concepts, and stuff like post-nationalism makes me wonder if the idea of Spore Space empires is becoming old hat
23:26.39AdmiralPandaafter another few years of stuff I managed to find Sporewiki, by which point I was well and entrenched in Battlefleet Gothic, which spurred my want to make more ship-based fiction here
23:26.56AdmiralPandawhich got me onto talking about Admiral Kaios, and I decided to do a sort of an AMA inspired by Monet
23:27.03Wormythey probably are
23:27.14AdmiralPandaand when that was done, I replaced Admiral_Kaios with Admiral_Panda, which just got shortened to AdmiralPanda
23:27.15WormyWhat inspired the name Spriggs?
23:27.23AdmiralPandaWormy: A machinima series
23:27.30MonetWormy: It might be why I've tried ot show the Imperium as more hegemonic than what it originally was.
23:27.47AdmiralPandait's the name of a main character from a machinima, and 077 was just 007 with the ratio swapped
23:28.09WormyThe story behind "Wormulon" is a funny one, it wasn't Futurama quite.  I'm bad with names, and when I made my Spore account, I nearly called myself "Maggoton", for maggot.  But worm is better.
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23:28.38DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
23:28.43Wormyhi
23:28.51MonetBack in an old version of the Imperium, non-Draconis used ot require visas adminstered by Draconis to pass though Imperial space. And now....I'm considering having the Provincial council be made up of aliens instead of Draconis representing each of the provinces.
23:29.23Hachiman_I wonder what the space chimps would do with their poo really
23:29.30Hachiman_Maybe they turn it into ammo or something
23:29.32Hachiman_I dunno
23:29.39MonetOhdeere
23:29.55MonetThat biological warfare that
23:29.58Wormybiofuel
23:30.42The_Wood_PulpProbably just get rid of it like humans
23:30.53Hachiman_So what tier are we gonna assume these monkeys are given that even though they've had biological augmentation and technological human intervention in their history they've still been spacefaring for less than a thousand years?
23:31.06The_Wood_PulpDoing anything else would lead to disease, slowing progress of civlization
23:31.22The_Wood_Pulpthey probably learned to get rid of poo in Tribe Stage
23:31.43WormyThey'd probs be as advanced as humans, some humasn factions are on thet Tier 2 line
23:32.12Hachiman_Perhaps monkey astronauts keep their poo as emergency food supplies in their suits, since monkey shit often comes out with undigested food stuffs and nutrition
23:32.25The_Wood_PulpEw no
23:33.32WormyNo...
23:33.35The_Wood_PulpAssuming humans and these creatures have a similar common ancestor I propose that their eating and hygiene habits would be at least a little similar
23:33.39WormySamurai Jack bronies :(
23:33.47WormyAku pony
23:33.52The_Wood_Pulpwhat
23:33.58Wormybangs his head repeatidly
23:34.01Hachiman_Wormy: Aye, scummy aren't they
23:34.56The_Wood_PulpDirty rebel scum
23:38.31Hachiman_So the space chimps are gonna be T3-T2 then
23:38.48WormyI won't protest
23:39.04MonetSomewhere around that.
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23:39.30Cyrannianbai
23:39.36Hachiman_Gimme ideas for power sources and typical resources they would probably use at around that tech scale then pls
23:39.38Hachiman_bai cyr
23:40.04Vincent20100Hey!
23:40.16MonetHachiman: They'd likely be using antimatter ocmmercially.
23:41.18MonetTypical resources though, we ll aside from the present-day stuff and perhaps metamterials, perhaps they're developing use for monopoles?
23:41.35Hachiman_Remind me what monopoles do hur
23:41.39Vincent20100Hi dudes.
23:42.01MonetThey're magnetically charged atoms with only one magnetic pole.
23:42.16Monetcompared to Iron atoms which have two.
23:42.29Hachiman_And that does... what, exactly?
23:43.45MonetThey can form much denser molecules than regular atoms.
23:43.55MonetAnd have much stronger intermolecular bonds
23:43.58WormyThey form stronger bonds with each other
23:44.21Wormymonoples could also be used as picotechnology
23:44.31Wormyor to bootstrap nuclear fusion
23:44.49WormyA free monopole can also cause the decay of protons
23:44.54Monethttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Em_monopoles.svg here's what a monopole's magnetic field looks like
23:44.54Hachiman_So basically they make for stronger building material?
23:45.10The_Wood_PulpWormy's science ----->
23:45.14The_Wood_Pulp-
23:45.17The_Wood_Pulpmy head
23:45.42MonetHachiman: You can make much smaller stuff with them than you can regular atoms.
23:45.49Hachiman_Right
23:46.09WormyYou will get used to it here, we are all wannabe physicists hur
23:46.26Hachiman_I want to get into physics but it all goes over my head hur
23:46.37Vincent20100We are also wannabe scientist, medics, biologists...
23:46.50WormyVarious
23:46.52DrodoEmpire...Historians! :D
23:46.52The_Wood_PulpBasically people who read wikipedia recreationally
23:47.00WormyI study geology, and now programming
23:47.18MonetAlthough most monopoles (there may be stable variations) are reactive with standard matter, creating gamma radiation and more monopoles (right Wormy?)
23:48.18WormyMonopole + proton ---> Monopole + neutral pion + positron
23:48.27Vincent20100^
23:48.38WormyThe positron may emit gamma radiation if it contacts an electron
23:48.40The_Wood_Pulp"pion." Yep, way out of my depth here
23:48.54Vincent20100Hi Wood!
23:49.11Hachiman_So my space chimps could use a stabilized variety of monopoles for stuff like medical technology via nano/picomachines
23:49.46The_Wood_PulpThat's Mr. Pulp to you, buster!
23:50.47WormyI believe if monopoles are stabilised into magmatter, they may not actually catalyse baryon decay
23:50.49MonetI think the picoscale might be a bit too small for medical work aside from rearranging atoms to get an ideal element
23:50.57WormyBut rather, pass through matter
23:51.04Vincent20100-_-
23:52.04The_Wood_PulpI joke
23:52.11MonetWormy pointed out above one of the more effective ways of making a monopole. Unfortunately the positron will emit damaging gamma radiation if it comes in contact with any normal matter.
23:52.23WormyThe net charge of a mag molecule is cancelled out to neutral
23:52.28Vincent20100New to the IRC? :)
23:52.29Monetpions are alsounstable.
23:52.46Monetmore gamma radiation
23:53.01WormyWell, this will only happen if a free GUT-monopole comes in contact with a proton
23:53.44The_Wood_Pulpwho me?
23:53.51The_Wood_PulpNah man
23:54.18MonetI don't know how useful monopoles will be in medicine but they might work wonders for computing and megastructures
23:54.26MonetOr making artificial black holes.
23:54.42The_Wood_PulpThat sounds weaponizable
23:54.46WormyMonopole matter must interact with bayonic mattervia magnetic, not electric charges.  But together it will pass through matter.  I imagine it must be hard to contain magstructures, perhaps magnetically
23:55.41Vincent20100Yes you Mr.
23:55.49Vincent20100Never saw you before o_O
23:55.51MonetI'm trying to work out in terms of resources and technologuy required how to rate commercialisation of antimatter, monopoles and neutron-degenerate matter, which are the three main exotic material types we have.
23:56.40The_Wood_PulpI dont come here often
23:56.57MonetWe can already make very very very tiny quantities of antimatter, monopoles are so-far only hypothetical and the only place one can find neutron-degenerate matter in the modern universe is in the cores of neutron stars or, perhjaps, black holes.
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23:58.58MonetWhat else...
23:59.30Hachiman_There's the trouble with making hi-tier cultures; the science and physics of it all
23:59.37MonetWell compared to other powers I'm sure they have pretty decent hyperdrive, maybe nanotech replicators?
23:59.49Hachiman_Perhaps yeah

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