IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140916

00:00.21WormyWhat does it do?  Attacks my face and hair where I can't blast it
00:00.25TekDroidGah... my programming class tomorrow is "Developing a 'mental model' of computation". This is a university course, I don’t want a lesson I learned 3 years ago. >.<
00:00.28AdmiralPandaoh yeah it won't care about you shining a laser in its eyes
00:01.04AdmiralPandaTekDroid: Too bad, fundamentals :3 either way, you'll want to take it because key points may have changed in three years
00:01.11WormyI guess its eyes are not like ours but I thought I could stop it seeing movement
00:01.57TekDroidAdmiralPanda: It's a lecture on understanding how a computer processes code. That hasn't changed in decades.
00:02.03Knight_AlienIt problably is injured eye wish but no to a dazzled extent.
00:02.12Knight_Alien*Wise*
00:02.33AdmiralPandaTekDroid: Either way, you should still go.
00:03.10Wormy<PROTECTED>
00:03.14WormyAnd its uni level
00:03.19TekDroidI will. But literally most of the course outline is stuff I learned two years ago in high school.
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00:04.13TekDroidAnd it's less interesting that in sounds, it's just visualing the steps of how a computer processes code.
00:04.46WormyTek, I enjoy reading about this stuff.
00:04.49Vincent20100Hey
00:05.13AdmiralPandaYou're talking to a guy who decided to pay less attention to the grassroots lectures he already knew, and more or less failed uni as a result
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00:06.28WormyTransistors > Flip Flops and Gates > Registers and Data paths > Machine Instructions > Compiler or interpreter > LISP > Embedded Pattern Masher > Intelligent Programs
00:07.10WormyI love how all the levels of software and hardware communicate
00:07.58TekDroidOf course, two of my lectures today were stuff I learned in AP last year, and the third was basically what we learned last week, so perhaps I'm a little overconfident.
00:08.39WormyYeah, I thought I knew a lot about field geology, but when I started going oin uni trips with lecturers I realised what I was missing
00:09.03WormyFor a start, one must look around the whole landscape and not tiny parts
00:09.50WormyIt was ridiculous, all us students found a bit, eaglerly doing geology and our lecturer was like "No no not like that, all this time I've been all about this place" (not in those words)
00:10.54WormyAlso, I guess because its uni, it will be unlike school. You may take notes but you are responsible for the study
00:11.43TekDroidYeah.
00:11.46WormyTekDroid:  I advise you read this book, it won't help your course but it has a lot of info about logic, AI, cognition etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach
00:13.34TekDroidTomorrow is a lab day though, so at least that should be interesting.
00:14.35WormyI feel really sad for this squid.
00:14.46WormyIt was killed for this.
00:15.11HachimanTo be fair we didn't hunt it
00:15.15HachimanIt was caught accidentally
00:15.22HachimanAnd without intention
00:15.47WormyAh
00:16.22WormyBut still, I wouldn't want to be hooked by a weird alien thing from beyond my world
00:16.36Wormyfor reasons unknown to destinations unknown
00:17.17HachimanIt probably didn't suffer long tbh
00:17.27HachimanMost fish that get hooked die rather quickly once they're hauled
00:17.49Knight_AlienNow their taking pictures with it XD
00:22.42DrodoEmpiretest
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00:33.54WormyI want to see its ಠ
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00:42.00Knight_Alien_Internet decided to mess up.
00:42.25WormyHachiman:  Did you see that?  I found that fact about the eyes fascinating.
00:42.39HachimanAye
00:42.43Wormylol
00:42.49Hachimanhur
00:51.44DrodoEmpire~seen AngryBirds
00:51.47infobotangrybirds <18071d3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.29.63> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 8h 18m 3s ago, saying: 'http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Franco-Drodo_Army_Corps'.
00:55.02Tek0516Angrybirds hasn't been on much today.
00:57.17DrodoEmpireYeah
00:57.18DrodoEmpire:P
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01:03.00DrodoEmpireWhen I lose the Mandate of Heaven as Ming - http://cdn.diply.com/img/da495162-a5f8-4e56-93e6-f3ead54e4850.jpg
01:03.50Tek0516>.< Just got a DoW from the Ming.
01:04.18DrodoEmpireOuch
01:04.26Tek0516Shortly after losing a quarter of my army to a native uprising.
01:04.48DrodoEmpirehttp://sc2pro.de/KOREA.jpg - O.O
01:04.58DrodoEmpireA native uprising? XD
01:05.04DrodoEmpireOuch
01:05.48Tek0516Taiwan has 6k natives. I had 6k there, but at half maintenance.
01:05.59DrodoEmpireAh
01:06.41Tek0516And knowing my luck Japan will DoW once the truce ends later this year.
01:06.55DrodoEmpirehttp://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3282300518312643637/D3829D1A7C7BCD7514C0B324051F6CB11245688B/
01:07.24Tek0516Lol
01:09.57Tek0516If you want a big Korea, there's one called "Joseon Korea is Best Korea". Inherited Ming and Oirat, conquered Japan, colonized the Pacific and about half of North America...
01:11.18Tek0516And did you know the Three Mountains was officially proven to still be possible in current patch?
01:12.03DrodoEmpireReally?
01:12.54DrodoEmpireHuh
01:13.17Tek0516Yeah, DDRJake (the guy who originally did it) had a twitch stream where he did it.
01:15.57Knight_AlienThat is Europa Universalis IV?
01:16.11Tek0516Historical strategy game.
01:16.28DrodoEmpireTek: Right
01:16.51DrodoEmpireKA: Yeah, basically you rule a country between the years 1444 to 1821
01:17.08Knight_AlienSo it is Europa.
01:17.22DrodoEmpireHm?
01:17.33Tek0516Europe-centric, but whole world is playable.
01:17.34DrodoEmpireIts title is "Europa Universalis IV", yes
01:17.41Knight_AlienAh.
01:18.05Knight_AlienAnd so their is a time limit for 1444 to 1821 correct?
01:18.16DrodoEmpireYes.
01:18.41DrodoEmpireWhich is still many hours of gameplay a game
01:18.54DrodoEmpirePlus the loads of mods that extend the timeline
01:19.09Tek0516I've got a few hundred hours without playing a complete game.
01:19.30WormyHachiman:  It would be funny if he fell face flat in the water
01:19.44HachimanAye hur
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01:51.44DrodoEmpireYou know? Next time Spartian becomes unbanned, we should let him go for a bit; He's excellent entertainment
01:51.50DrodoEmpire:P
01:51.59DrodoEmpireAnd he doesn't seem to learn from his year-long bans
01:55.29OfficerJackalYeah, he's pretty funny for watch.
01:55.36OfficerJackalTo*
01:56.32DrodoEmpireYep
02:02.11Tek0516Lol
02:04.34WormyOr we could just renew his block, if we wanted to perma-ban him.
02:06.11WormyI know he isn't liked but he also shouldn't be paraded as a "village idiot", since that is very un-wiki of us and is embracing trolls.  It's also not nice banning someone you aren't actually 100% certain is a troll.
02:06.26Tek0516What led to this conversation? XD
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02:08.32WormyMonty Python - Village Idiots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF-CkMpQtlY
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02:09.48Knight_AlienHi
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02:26.24TekPCHello
03:06.54Knight_AlienHi
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05:19.43TekPC~test
05:19.43infobottest is, like, not funny
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07:20.34GhelaeHello.
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11:07.04Liquid_InkHello
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11:33.21HachimanHai
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11:43.19Knight_AlienHello
11:44.08GhelHello.
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11:48.36Wormyhi.
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12:27.42Hachimanhttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10632848_928027323884946_1457177922466477860_n.jpg?oh=73f0664b30408aa7509a24cec179f690&oe=5496BDD2
12:27.58HachimanWhere the fuck is Imp when you want him
12:50.25GhelHello.
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13:04.16Vincent20100Hey
13:19.05Vincent20100Anyone? :(
13:19.34HachimanHi
13:19.40Vincent20100Hey
13:24.53Vincent20100It'S calm,..
13:24.56Vincent20100Too calm...
13:28.46HachimanIt's hard to have a calm day on the IRC anymore
13:28.52HachimanA calm day that isn't boring, that is
13:31.53AdmiralPandasadly that's true
13:32.59AdmiralPandaI wouldn't mind planning another fiction like In Better Times, but Wormy and Cyr aren't here
13:36.30HachimanI wonder if boomerangs actually even work
13:36.35AdmiralPandaThey do
13:36.49AdmiralPandajust not in the way cartoons portray them
13:36.59AdmiralPandaactually catching a boomerang would probably result in a broken hand at best
13:40.41AdmiralPandaI mentioned it in passing, but it was rather jarring going from roleplaying in D&D to roleplaying here
13:41.07HachimanEh
13:41.29AdmiralPandaI'd imagine it wasn't as jarring going the other way
13:42.56AdmiralPandabut going from somewhat turn based, with effort being made to accommodate every character's unique aspects, to having an overarching story that somewhat disregards who's actually part of it
13:43.39HachimanUh I wouldn't say that
13:43.52AdmiralPandathat was a gross oversimplification I know
13:44.05HachimanYeah a very gross oversimplification
13:44.14AdmiralPandano need to get snarky
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13:44.59JepardiHi
13:45.11AdmiralPandabut you have to admit, for example the Vampire War party thing is mostly about Hachi and Clotho, the Sea Witch has a personal stake in it, but everyone else could be interchanged fairly easily
13:46.52AdmiralPandanot saying one is better than the other, just that there's a significant difference
13:47.26HachimanIf you don't like it then you don't have to do it, but fiction writers often will give each character their own time to shine individually during a fic
13:47.29HachimanLike with Tantum
13:48.05HachimanAlso not only that but it builds relations all the same
13:48.50AdmiralPandaThat's not the point -.- I'm just saying they're different
13:49.11AdmiralPandaI haven't once said that I don't like the way RPs are done here, just that they're different to the way D&D is handled
13:49.29HachimanWell yeah that's obvious considering that D&D is turn-based
13:50.01AdmiralPandaI was talking more about the roleplaying aspect, not just the combat, but it's a fairly moot point
13:52.01Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a8byLq6_460sa_v1.gif
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14:15.41GhelaeHello.
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14:24.10HachimanBored
14:24.21AdmiralPandalel
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14:26.47Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Milla Noob fiction of the week
14:28.02Wormy_awayA single DCP attack would shock them into logic.
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14:29.17AdmiralPandacan sprint for 15 minutes without getting tired
14:29.19AdmiralPandacool, I can do that too
14:29.27AdmiralPandanot full sprint, but a solid run
14:29.40Wormy_awaySentence:  Punishment by enslavement on a low oxygen world.
14:30.03HachimanAh but they can do 50 mps for 15 minutes
14:30.20AdmiralPandathat's not too bad
14:30.53AdmiralPandaactually, holy crap
14:30.57AdmiralPandathat's 180 kilometres per hour
14:31.06AdmiralPandaas in, skin ripping
14:31.16Wormy_awayBTW Ghelae, the Sontarans will make an appearance in Behind Closed Doors
14:32.26Wormy_awayThe DCP will enlist them in the Orion War, although there will be mch competive grudgment http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGreat_Xonexian_Schism/Orion_War%2FBehind_closed_doors
14:33.00Wormy_awayI won't explicitly state them as Sontarans though
14:33.56Wormy_awayI imagine the DCP and Sontarans being in competition for centuries.
14:34.07Vincent20100WORM!
14:34.10Vincent20100hug Worm
14:34.56Wormy_awayBest of the Sontarans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPXO8653vok
14:35.11GhelaeAh, that reminds me. You've put "Emperor Tokzhalat" on that page, although since the retcon, he wasn't an emperor until after the Campaigns.
14:37.43Wormy_awayOh, okay
14:37.58Wormy_awayWhat was he before?
14:39.52GhelaeHe was just a Commander, but it was Commodore Hlraka who led the so-called Human Republic Campaign.
14:48.26Wormy_awaybbl again
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15:09.14dromchrist on bike
15:09.21dromi'm so fucking tired
15:09.45TekDroidlol
15:09.55dromthat i can't deteminate if I'm higher than mount everest or i'm completely worn out of this dumb teacher
15:10.50dromthis teacher makes physics look way too hard
15:11.11dromthat i had even trouble understanding what the easy peasy variables meant
15:12.32dromme makes me ask you guys: have you ever had terrible teachers who make everything so hard for you?
15:13.12Vincent20100Drom!
15:13.25Vincent20100YEs, it happened
15:14.44dromoh hey vincent
15:15.33dromurgh, so tired that I also keyed in wrong pin-code while buying food on away home
15:16.08dromso tired that I misspelt "almost" as also
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15:23.50Vincent20100^^
15:27.42HachimanHai
15:28.27OluapWorkerhi
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15:28.40OfficerJackalHello!
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15:29.13Vincent20100Hey!
15:29.16dromVincent20100: Let's do this?
15:29.54Vincent20100YEs, but let's go in querry
15:30.05dromoy yey
15:37.03HachimanWormy_away: So I just realized that Samurai Jack has quite a few complex science traits to it - provolved animals, human divergents and uplifts, the possibility of alternate universes, that sorta thing
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15:47.14Wormy_awayHachiman:  Yeah, at its core its sci-fi really, with some Fantasy elements.
15:47.18Technobliteratoryo
15:47.47Wormy_awayI remember one episode with scientists who had built a ship in secret to escape to the stars.
15:47.47HachimanIf we wanna get really techy we could say that the gods and Aku are just primordial AI
15:48.45OluapWorkerThat's called science fantasy
15:48.49Wormy_awayThere are also lots of aliens inhabiting Earth, I think Aku probably created a galactic empire.
15:49.04HachimanIt is stated that Aku kept the galaxy under his dominion
15:49.09HachimanFor thousands of years
15:49.19HachimanAku is largely formless after all and can take any shape he wants to as well as alter probability and use psychic powers, perhaps he's just a dumb-downed version of the Gaia AI from OA
15:49.28HachimanOr dumbed-up version, dunno
15:50.58Wormy_awayI remember one episode where several deities fought him, maybe they were really high tech species which appeared gods to primitive Earth, liked in Stargate.
15:51.09HachimanAye
15:51.31HachimanThey defeated the original Aku and the Aku we see Jack try to fight is just a fragment of the original
15:51.58Wormy_awayOh wow the full series is on Youtube.  Probably not for long https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frRoICDJYHE
15:52.10HachimanYeah I'm watching that right now hur
15:52.55HachimanThat's the entirety of the first series I believe
15:54.12Wormy_awayThe uploader put up the second
15:54.23Wormy_awayI really wish they made that Samurai Jack movie
15:54.41HachimanPerhaps Aku's a dark matter entity that can manipulate gravity and Jack's sword is a really hi-tech piece of equipment in the form of a standard sword
15:57.14Wormy_awayI'm watching the one where Jack is taught by the world's warrior cultures.
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16:00.29OluapWorkerDidn't mean to do that
16:00.30HachimanHai
16:06.21Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10610873_330915907069476_4978162146946303143_n.jpg?oh=08c2742a7fbf8283417e69a8eb9bbdda&oe=54D13BAC&__gda__=1422403270_a5103d8c478c5cd9397b7e40e3c72e2e I get reminded of the banana creatures from Spore
16:07.16Wormy_awaybananas in pyjamas
16:09.53OluapWorkerdat face
16:12.47Wormy_awayI wonder how Aku would face against SporeWikiverse characters.
16:13.39Wormy_awayI imagine he would be defeated since a (a damn good) mortal warrior can.  But maybe if Aku was at full power he's be a very dangerous threat.
16:14.55HachimanI tend to view the Corruptus and Shu'rimrodir as being more potent (and far more competent) equivalents of Aku and his armies
16:16.36OluapWorkerShu'rimrodir - UNSPEAKABLE EEEEEEEEEEEVIL
16:16.57HachimanIt's funny cuz Hachi can easily be inserted as Jack hur
16:38.55dromFound out that there's funny creativism in this year's election.
16:39.15dromOne voted "Stop the sidewalk bikers-party)
16:40.04dromAnd "Masturbators against NATO"
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16:40.39OluapWorkerImpDum
16:41.04dromHere's the article, you gotta use googol translate for it. http://www.dn.se/valet-2014/valets-nagot-ovanligare-roster/?l1
16:45.59Wormy_awayI hope Minecraft isn't shat on by Microsoft
16:46.14Wormy_awayMinecraft, now an Exbox One Exclusive!
16:46.24Wormy_away*Xbox
16:47.12HachimanImpyDroid: Hai and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Alfgund_Stonesoul Look over this and gib quotes pls
16:47.25ImpyDroidhai
16:47.51OluapWorkerCome up with a top quote while you're at it pls
16:52.54ImpyDroid"Trust me, this man just cannot die. If he could, I would have strangled him long ago." - Javina Desertsun
16:53.23Hachimanhue
16:53.37HachimanIs that for top quote?
16:54.15ImpyDroidYa
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16:58.24ImpyDroidDere two quotes
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17:01.20Xhou
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17:06.57HachimanDamnit
17:07.10ImpyDroidHachiman: Quoted
17:08.32Hachimanyey
17:09.01HachimanIs 'Pêro' pronounced like Pedro by any chance?
17:09.42ImpyDroidIt's the archaic form of "Pedro"
17:10.12ImpyDroidSo yeah kinda
17:10.22OluapWorkery not jsut call him Pedro
17:10.30OluapWorkerComplicatin things for nuhtin
17:11.15ImpyDroidCos not fantasy enough hur
17:11.40XhoAnd Impy doesn't want all our wildest dreams to come true
17:11.41Xhocuz he meen
17:11.49ImpyDroidI wonder how "Pêro" is pronounced in Portuguese anyway? Isn't it "Peh-roo"?
17:12.03OluapWorkerYes
17:12.07OluapWorkerOr rather
17:12.09Hachimanohai spu
17:12.10OluapWorker"Peh-roh"
17:12.19OluapWorkeraka nothing like Pedro
17:12.39dromAwh yiss. Spanish dudes.
17:12.49ImpyDroidWell one letter is missing hur
17:13.11OluapWorkerur faic is missing go work on Mequelet
17:13.22drom"Pedroh"
17:13.58ImpyDroidI dunno about Portuguese but "Ivan" was originally pronounced "Ee-oh-AH-n"
17:14.13OluapWorker"Ee-vahn"
17:14.49dromI pronouce it as "Aei-van"
17:15.14dromOr closer to "aj-van"
17:16.03HachimanThe fuck
17:16.13HachimanYou know it's "EYE-van" right hur
17:16.38OluapWorkerNot in portuguese it ain't
17:17.26XhoHachiman: In swedish:        Aj = eye
17:17.35HachimanAh
17:18.05dromFun fact: Aj = Ouch
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17:20.20The_RandomnessHello everyone
17:20.27OluapWorkerrandum
17:20.35Vincent20100hey
17:20.47dromWhen you hear a nordic yelling "eye! eye! eye!". He aint' talking about eyeballs or eyes.
17:20.55Wormy_awayWe should all speak in propositional logic.
17:21.12Wormy_awaywould love to say that in logic but it would take too long.
17:22.04The_Randomness:p
17:23.05Wormy_awayEuclidean geometry in propositional calculus would easily eat up 500 pages.
17:23.14The_RandomnessOh my
17:24.44Wormy_awayB is a power of 10
17:24.48Wormy_away<b=S0∨∃n:∃i:∃j:∃k:<∀n′:<∃n″:n=(n′+n″)⊃~∃d:∃d′:(i+(n′·j))=(SSd·SSd′)>∧<∀n′:<∃n″:n=(n′+Sn″)⊃∃y:<<∃y′:(i+(n′·j))=((SSSSSSSSSS0·y)+Sy′)∧∃m:k=(((i+(n′·j))·m)+(SSSSSSSSSS0·y))>∧<∃y′:(i+(Sn′·j))=(y+Sy′)∧∃m:k=(((i+(Sn′·j))·m)+y)>>>∧<∃m:k=S(i·m)∧<∃b′:(i+(n·j))=(b+Sb′)∧∃m:k=(((i+(n·j))·m)+b)>>>>>
17:25.10Xhocan u not
17:25.18Tek0516O.o
17:25.19GhelawayAnother problem with that, besides its length, is the lack of logic symbols on most keyboards.
17:25.38The_RandomnessI know most of that notation and I don't feel like deciphering it
17:25.42Wormy_awayHuman language would probably take up volumes
17:25.55Tek0516What was that even supposed to say?
17:26.07Wormy_awayIts explained how to do it here http://everything2.com/title/A+Few+More+Translation+Exercises
17:26.12The_RandomnessB is a power of 10, I believe
17:26.19Wormy_away^
17:26.34Tek0516It looks like your keyboard had a seizure.
17:27.08Wormy_awayStill, I managed to use the language is solving a mathematical problem of the other book, Road to Reality.
17:27.57Wormy_awayTNT and Propositional calculus is designed to capture all mathematical thoughts, true or false
17:28.35The_RandomnessTNT?
17:28.42Wormy_awayI admit, I haven't done B is to a power of 10 yet, but I've done the others
17:28.49Wormy_awayTypographical Number Theory
17:29.04The_RandomnessAh
17:29.31The_RandomnessNow prove 1+1=2
17:29.59OluapWorkercus i sed so
17:30.01OluapWorkerdere proven
17:30.10The_Randomnessu too dum for proof
17:30.13XhoJust what I was gonna say hur
17:30.18Wormy_awaySure
17:30.28XhoAnd this is the part where I go on Spore
17:30.35Wormy_awayWell, its not actually number theory, its isomorphic
17:31.26Wormy_away<(s0+s0) = ss0>
17:31.34The_RandomnessNice
17:32.17Wormy_awayTNT can express silly statements
17:34.12Wormy_awayLet me think of one...
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17:36.55Wormy_away∀c:~∃b:(ss0*b)=c
17:37.24The_RandomnessWhat exactly does that say?
17:38.29Wormy_awayFor all numbers c, there does exist a number b, such that 2 times b = c.  C be 2, b be 1, so 2*1=1
17:38.37Wormy_awaythere does NOT
17:38.59The_RandomnessAh. I understood it up to the part where "ss0" came in
17:39.10Wormy_awayWhich is false in our minds, but not to TNT which doesn't care
17:39.27Wormy_awaySuccessor of the Successor of 0
17:39.34The_RandomnessOh
17:40.06Wormy_away∀- Is a statement about all numbers
17:40.24Wormy_away∃ - is a statement there there exists a number
17:40.30Wormy_away~ NOT
17:40.31infobot[not] no
17:41.02Wormy_awayWhen I was playing with Javascript I noticed it works a bit like the propositional calculus
17:41.48The_RandomnessHow I read it at first: "For all c, there does not exist a number b such that (something) * b = c"
17:43.21Tek0516Yeah, pretty much what I got too.
17:43.23GhelawayTNT doesn't deal with advanced mathematical concepts like "2".
17:43.23The_RandomnessThen you told me ss0 is equivalent to 2, then it made sense, although the statement itself is obviously false.
17:43.33The_RandomnessYeah
17:43.37Wormy_awayGodel Escher Bach eventually takes into Incompleteness Theorems with this logic
17:43.40OluapWorkerI'm completely lost in this conversation
17:43.49The_Randomnessnub
17:43.55OluapWorkerWhat are you even talking about hur
17:44.02Tek0516OluapWorker: Maths
17:44.02Wormy_awayGhel:  Its not even maths really
17:44.02The_Randomnessur mum
17:44.10OluapWorkerTek0516: [scared]
17:44.13GhelawayAlthough I think the concept of "the successor of" is still too presumptuous. It should derive the natural numbers from set theory, starting with the empty set for zero.
17:44.21The_Randomness^
17:44.56Wormy_awayI'm sure it can, it can express any thought you can have about mathematics, until you get to incompleteness.
17:45.35Tek0516Okay, now you're losing me again. XD
17:46.29Wormy_away"the successor of"is an isomorphism, which is NOT part of the system.  It is outside the system and outside of formal rules.
17:46.46The_RandomnessI will admit I'm still a bit of a math scrub, so this is a bit unfamiliar to me.
17:46.48GhelawayIt's nice to know that these rigorous logical foundations exist, but I don't think I'll be abandoning science for axiomatics any time soon.
17:47.04Wormy_awaylol
17:47.11Wormy_awayWell logic can't argue with logic
17:47.20The_Randomnesslol
17:47.24Wormy_awayIt collapses into the cavern of inconsistency.
17:47.42Wormy_awayBecause there is always be a new fallacy not covered by TNT
17:48.13Wormy_awayHuman languages are incredibly vacuous and error prone for a reason
17:48.31Wormy_awayHence the confusion of how to pronounce "Ivan"
17:49.24Wormy_awayIts good for us, bad for machines and bad for us and good for machines at the same time that there is a logical language and a human jelly language
17:49.45The_RandomnessLanguages are meant to be a WIP, and to be flexible
17:49.49The_RandomnessHuman languages, that is
17:51.29Vincent20100https://www.facebook.com/polandball/photos/a.10150254506310483.493039.366029555482/10154592936775483/?type=1&theater
17:51.37Vincent20100I confirm this is how it goes it Canada
17:57.42Wormy_awayActually I'm a bumbling idiot doings maths but this is somewhat useful to me
17:58.20Wormy_awayprobably because once you've written it down, you test its truth or falsity
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18:16.06JepardiHi
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18:20.12Wormy_awayTek doyou have a way into log in automatically?
18:27.04dromImpyDroid: Is it true that there's a culture in Russia where you belitter inside people's car if they litter in the wrong place?
18:27.13drompeoples'*
18:29.47Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140916182917/spore/images/6/6d/PelagriosNew.png Remade Pelagrios
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18:30.28OluapWorkerLooks better for sure
18:31.23OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Hikamera_Elf I've retconned the Adsiduus into a new race
18:31.31OluapWorkerIgnore the outdated pictures
18:33.34OluapWorkerI just noticed I keep calling them Hikarema instead of Hikamera
18:33.36OluapWorkerI'll fix that later
18:34.52XhoOrichalcum Elves - http://www.quickmeme.com/img/49/4953f21d71758f51d0097c85e3568211b9e1dbcb04afa5d7bad20ac9b0c5b835.jpg
18:35.37OluapWorkerHikamera Elves - nice grave m8
18:35.51XhoLonginus - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
18:36.20OluapWorkerLyra - yee
18:36.37Xhohttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140916183537/spore/images/5/54/LeviathanNew.png Also made Leviathan again
18:37.53Hachimanngh everybody has light stuff in the Fantasyverse
18:37.56HachimanI want light stuff hur
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18:38.17OluapWorkerhow bout u work on Sovereign
18:38.31XhoI don't technically hur
18:38.38HachimanSoldalatel
18:38.47OluapWorkerAnd it's just me and Imp who have light stuff
18:38.57XhoSoldalatel, Longinus, Septimus and Selvikhrir
18:39.09OluapWorkerSun =/= light u nerds
18:39.10XhoI think he means 'light' encompassing light and sun
18:39.42HachimanI was wondering that since nobody's using Lorchakim
18:39.48HachimanIf I could lay claim
18:40.12OluapWorkerCatface gave Lorchakim to me and Xho but I wouldn't mind sharing him with you
18:40.21XhoI share Lorchakim?
18:40.25XhoI never knew that
18:40.27OluapWorkerYeah
18:40.34OluapWorkerCat said so on one blog
18:40.43XhoA lot of things I could have updated and I never did hur
18:41.05OluapWorkerquote lightbulb elves pls
18:41.08XhoI wanted to remake Lorchakim for so long
18:41.16XhoOluapWorker: not until picturs r updated
18:41.23OluapWorkereet shit then
18:42.03OluapWorkerHachiman: I don't use Lorchakim at all so I could give my share of him to you, I'd just ask to keep the Light Drakes related to him
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18:42.53HachimanSure can do
18:42.59HachimanHai Cyr
18:43.00CyrannianHello
18:43.17OluapWorkerOp-less Cyrannian
18:43.20OluapWorkerwut is dis
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18:44.16OluapWorkerYou looked naked without it
18:44.22OluapWorkerMore naked than usual
18:44.23Cyrannianle whoops, I forgot I changed the password
18:44.28OluapWorker~punch Cyrannian
18:44.28infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
18:44.39Cyrannian~kick OluapWorker
18:44.40infobotACTION kicks OluapWorker
18:48.54HachimanXho: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=931679133545944
18:49.04XhoI literally just saw that
18:49.09XhoMade me laugh
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18:52.01DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
18:52.04XhoHachiman: I quoted Alfgund by the way
18:52.08XhoHello
18:52.12Hachimanyey
18:52.20DrodoEmpireHey
18:54.00dromhey
18:58.46Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0RMtG8RXfY Pelagrios steals from a mercenary -> this happens
19:01.09HachimanSides status: Deceased
19:06.00dromI launched mine into orbit in KSP.
19:07.48Cyrannianhttp://www.tickld.com/x/25-harry-potter-quotes-taken-out-of-context - olol
19:08.50Wormy_awayaverage day of a dog owner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgno6QqWQs
19:08.59HachimanCyrannian: ohgod those quotes
19:09.11OluapWorkerI read that as "dong owner" and got scared for a second
19:11.08XhoI feel like we should start writing articles on the schools of magic
19:11.13XhoAt least for the more notable ones
19:11.27dromHachiman: I guess that you have already seen this? http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/729/529/7e0.jpg
19:11.57Hachimandrom: Aye I have, and I love it hur
19:12.06OluapWorkerIf you can think of what these pages would look like, sure why not
19:13.30XhoWell I guess there would be sections on history, types of -mancers,
19:13.31XhoUh
19:13.36XhoNotable users of said magic
19:14.09OluapWorkerAll pages are just "It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit."
19:14.49XhoDark magic is probably the easiest one to talk about
19:15.30XhoIt's got the longest history I guess, what with Akhemazdrís, Ka-is and Ahdramilús and then modern factions that use it
19:16.02XhoThen you have necromancers, summoners/conjurers/whatever, actual umbramancers and whatnot
19:17.12XhoWell you could probably talk about manipulation of elements and summoning in every magic type
19:17.21XhoAnd then on top just put the magic-specific powers
19:18.39XhoAlthough I dunno what's specific in each
19:18.56XhoI guess Dark magic's would be necromancy
19:19.54XhoOuranomancy's would be creation itself I suppose
19:20.12OluapWorkerOuranomancy
19:20.17OluapWorkerWhat now
19:20.20XhoCelestial
19:20.25OluapWorkerRight
19:20.31XhoOuranos = 'Heaven' in Greek
19:22.02XhoAs for the rest you can work that all out hur
19:38.57ImpyDroiddrom: Late response: No, people just don't mind people littering
19:41.24DrodoEmpiretest
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19:46.54OluapWorkerhi
19:49.39ImperiosHi
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19:52.24dromImperios: I have seen few videos of them doing it though.
19:52.34buildkirbyushello all!
19:52.38dromHello
19:52.43ImperiosI've never seen anyone do it in Saint-Petersburg
19:52.48ImperiosMaybe it's the different region
19:53.30DrodoEmpireHey buildkirbyus
20:10.12GhelHello.
20:10.37buildkirbyushey
20:12.41Wormy_fictionhi
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20:18.52Wormy_fictionLove this theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLjhRnrD5uc
20:20.48GhelXho: One idea I had about the schools of magic - at least, of the Source - is that the major shrines of Koldenwelt could be associated with them, mainly because I noticed that we only have three shrines on the Koldenwelt map (which could possibly be associated with Thunder, Light and Arcane magic).
20:22.08GhelAlthough how these shrines, which are often remote, would be connected to these schools in any significant way, I'm not too sure.
20:23.56Wormy_fictionCould there be a philosophical/scientific (perhaps not in our sense) school trying to understand the Source?
20:24.35OluapWorker"Magic school" has nothing to do with actual studying
20:24.51OluapWorkerIt's just a general name for the magic elements
20:24.56HachimanAlthough I'm sure there are actual schools that actually study magic hur
20:25.03OluapWorkerWell of course
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20:38.06OfficerJackalHey!
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20:39.44TekDroidGah. >.< One second my code is fine, the next it's kagging to death and I'm spending an hour trying to find out why it's lagging.
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20:44.31Wormy_ficHi
20:44.58GhelHello.
20:45.07Liquid_InkHello
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20:58.27Knight_AlienAnything new?
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21:00.18GhelHello.
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21:16.11Knight_AlienHi
21:19.19Knight_AlienI shall now begin my Vanu Crusade in planetside 2 so you all later.
21:19.28Knight_Alien*See*
21:19.36Knight_AlienAnd If I am needed ping me.
21:19.38Tek0516>.< I think I've spent close to 2 hours trying to figure out a how I broke my program. >.<
21:19.51Knight_AlienWhich one?
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21:22.44Tek0516Something I made.
21:28.54MonetReadoing Baxter's Transcendant makes me wonder if it makes sense that the Draconis might be (and I think i've talked about this before) of a higher...conscious.
21:30.16MonetThey see nothing wrong with any family member taking care of the kids, a man can sleep with anyone in the family who isn't a blood relative, they mostly have no quarrels of a system of internally electing a figure *after* a house has won a position in a local election and to be one of the "houseless" is equivilent to being an outcast or a nobody.
21:32.36MonetAll probably though a combination of social evolution and biotechnological advances
21:32.55buildkirbyusvery intriguing.
21:34.02MonetSo far I think i've indicated that intra-house conflicts are rare.
21:34.54Wormy_ficShould I use quotes in a fictional biography?  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Orion_War/Behind_closed_doors#Part_one:_The_Great_Discord
21:35.13Wormy_fic*autobio
21:36.11MonetIt could be good for highlights
21:36.12Wormy_ficIt doesn't feel right.
21:36.32Wormy_ficOr when someone-else speaks
21:37.37HachimanMonet: But they still feel anger, love, lust, sadness and other emotional attachments that all beings of human-level conscious do
21:38.07HachimanThey still pride themselves with currency, authority and recognition
21:38.22MonetYeah I'm of the opinion that emotions aren't a bad thing to have.
21:38.35Wormy_ficI'll use a Roburan in this story
21:38.37MonetThey're a form of wordless communication after all
21:38.40XhoKicath - i disagree
21:39.13HachimanWormy_fic: I've been meaning to expand on the Roburans and I thought their name was a bit dum as well as their general behaviour
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21:40.08MonetMy understanding of communality is its an addition of what is already present with human-level subconsious. The journey towards communality is an addition, not a replacement.
21:40.10Wormy_ficShall I call them Roburans for now and correct it when you get a new name?
21:40.17Wormy_ficI won't make them idiots
21:40.18HachimanYeah feel free
21:40.19The_RandomnessHello everyone
21:40.23Wormy_ficBut maybe short of temper
21:40.23MonetHello
21:40.35HachimanYeah they're bound to have a short temper hur
21:40.47HachimanBut yeah, thanks c:
21:41.51The_RandomnessWhat are we discussing right now?
21:42.04HachimanMonet: I wouldn't say they're of a higher conscious if they still have all of the emotional attachments that can hold them back, I'd say they're about the same as humans if not a little more progressed due to their age and experience
21:42.29XhoThe_Randomness: Whether the Draconis as a species are of an evolved conscience and rational scope
21:42.44MonetOh they're still midway between human-level consciousness and a true communality.
21:43.05HachimanI'd say they're closer to human-level than true communality myself
21:43.19MonetThe Theians will remain as my true-communality-species.
21:43.52MonetAlthough the question of "what defines consciousness" is a very grey and blurry area.
21:44.10Hachimanrite I'm gonna get working on the Tā
21:44.17Hachimanaka the posthuman group that Hachi's part of
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21:45.11MonetFamilial bonds are probably more evolved.
21:45.33MonetPersonally I'm against this idea that higher-consciousness beings are devoid of emotions.
21:46.17XhoKicath - well scuse us
21:46.20HachimanWell higher-consciousness beings wouldn't be devoid of emotions ideally, Hachiman will become an Essence god soon enough and he'll have access to a whole range of wider knowledge and understanding
21:46.20MonetEmotions like anger, fear, lust etc. are a way of expressing and communicating without words. One does not need to know a species' language to understand what they're trying to express.
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21:46.53HachimanYet he will still remain as a lustful, perverted guy whose gotta strong sense of justice and right
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21:48.03MonetI think it was described (wormy might have mentioend it) that a species closer to communality is in fact -more- dangerous than a Human community when driven to war.
21:48.22MonetThey'd be even more determined to wipe out the threat.
21:49.18The_RandomnessWhy is that?
21:49.28The_RandomnessWait nevermind
21:49.58The_RandomnessMisread what you said at first
21:53.40TekDroid~seen Angrybirds
21:53.41infobotangrybirds <18071d3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.29.63> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1d 5h 19m 57s ago, saying: 'http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Franco-Drodo_Army_Corps'.
21:53.51HachimanAlso if anybody has any suggestions for the Tā I'm open for them, whether it'd be related to biology, culture, territories and stuff like that
21:54.01MonetAnd I have indicated that an entire house can mobilise if its felt threatened.
21:56.00The_RandomnessHachiman: What exactly is the Tā?
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21:57.19HachimanTā are basically posthumans that have biologically augmented themselves ages ago to look like rabbits so they could thrive on some icy world they found/were abandoned at
21:57.30The_Randomnesswabbits
21:57.59HachimanI'm still wondering whether they should be the descendants of crews of lost generation ships from humanity's early interstellar era or if they should have been implanted there and changed by Milky Way precursors
21:58.12HachimanAs in, put there before mankind's stellar era
21:58.18The_RandomnessI like the former better
21:58.36The_RandomnessBecause the latter is kind of cliche
21:58.52HachimanTrue
21:59.57HachimanNow I just gotta figure out when mankind was using generation ships for interstellar travel, although there's the possibility that they developed hyperspace drives before expanding beyond the solar syste,
22:00.00Hachiman*system
22:00.09HachimanSo I'm not entirely sure
22:00.33The_RandomnessYou could also just make it be a community within some existing human nation too
22:00.44HachimanEh I don't like that idea
22:00.52HachimanThey're rabbit posthumans, they should be everywhere hur
22:01.13MonetI'd estimate the first generation ships soemtime between 2050-2150
22:01.54HachimanBut would those ships have been used for interstellar travel or for travel to other planets and celestial bodies within the solar system?
22:02.10MonetInterstellar.
22:02.43HachimanAlso keep in mind that I think that humanity was warring/politically unstable between those years
22:03.58MonetAlthough my advice is that the original colonies, if you're using generation ships, should stillbe within a few dozen to a hundred light years from Earth.
22:04.38MonetTravelling halfway across the galaxy with a generation ship is only really plausable if one has FTL anyway.
22:09.28MonetAlright 2080-2150.
22:09.59MonetEven if humanity is at war its possible the ancestors of the Tā could have had their generation ship comemrically built.
22:15.24HachimanTrue
22:15.29HachimanUgh this is confusing
22:18.03MonetHow so?
22:18.47HachimanTrying to make this chronologically fit
22:19.12MonetWHen was WWIII again?
22:19.28HachimanPlus where the hell are Tā ancestors gonna get that level of genetic engineering from if they're from the 2050s-2150s
22:20.22HachimanAnd then there's their point of rediscovery which I have no idea
22:20.55MonetI've been reading Michio kaku's "physics of the Future" and he postulated that we could have artificial atavism by the 2050s; fur, digitigrade legs etc
22:21.02The_RandomnessMonet: Depends on who you ask. I believe in the Star Trek continuum it's some time in the mid 21st century, ending a while before 2060
22:21.23MonetThe_Randomness: I mean Sporewiki humaity's WWIII.
22:21.43The_RandomnessYeah, I have no idea about that.
22:21.46MonetMaybe sometime in the 22nd century we start getting the tech for completely new traits?
22:22.22MonetSo I say that the Tā level of genetic engineering is possible in the late 21st century.
22:23.04MonetMaybe. Lop-ears could have come later.
22:23.41MonetTheoretically we're only maybe 20 years from possibly reactivating the gene that makes primates all hairy.
22:23.49MonetMaybe even 10
22:24.10Knight_AlienBack.
22:24.51The_Randomnessbrb
22:30.05Wormy_ficMeeting of the Hudums http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Orion_War/Behind_closed_doors#Part_one:_The_Great_Discord
22:30.37Wormy_ficTell me what you think
22:31.11buildkirbyusyou still have that disclaimer that says it isn't finished
22:31.17buildkirbyuswait nvm
22:36.05HachimanI just read it
22:36.13HachimanIt's nice, I really like it
22:36.22HachimanSo the Kindred Coalition is cutting its ties with mankind
22:36.25Wormy_ficThanks
22:36.27buildkirbyusi agree
22:36.31buildkirbyusit's very nice
22:36.35Wormy_ficYes
22:37.02HachimanI can imagine the fear in human eyes when they have to face Roburans hur
22:37.04Wormy_ficWell really, the DCP is gathering its chess pieces
22:37.08Wormy_ficlol
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22:46.24HachimanI like how in Samurai Jack, the character called the Scotsman gets away with a 20 second long name-calling insult that I'm sure contains racial slurs
23:04.12MonetCheeky
23:04.40MonetAnother idea for Draocnis biology: Perhaps they can fold part of their wing membranes into their tails?
23:04.47Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-LyFMCIpok
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23:08.06Knight_AlienHachiman I hear some.
23:08.27HachimanSurprised you can hear anything over the Scottish accent hur
23:09.16Knight_AlienI heard him calling him a stoner , so I hear most.
23:09.49MonetI think I got a fair amount of his slurs
23:11.00Wormy_fic"Jessy"
23:11.04HachimanAccording to the comments, "cally breek tattie" means a spoiled potato
23:11.39Knight_Alien''Jessey oaf lookin stoner''
23:13.21Wormy_ficI think they all real words
23:13.46Wormy_ficBleathering
23:13.57Wormy_ficSchooner
23:14.29HachimanMakes me wonder who owns Scotland in the SWverse hur
23:14.36Wormy_ficMe
23:14.44Wormy_ficOr "scunner"
23:15.03Wormy_ficWell, me and Liquid have North Ebgland and Scotland in the Fjord League
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23:15.17MonetScotland is part of the Fjord League.
23:15.35Hachimanrite
23:15.37Wormy_fichttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Fjord_League_of_Northern_Europe#Political_Divisions
23:15.41DrodoEmpiretest
23:15.47DrodoEmpiretest
23:15.53HachimanFunny cuz I never usually associate the Scots with the Nords
23:16.18HachimanCue drom appearing and berating me hur
23:16.36MonetThey have viking ancestry
23:17.04HachimanDoesn't surprise me
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23:17.15Wormy_ficScotland and Norway have a lot of relations
23:17.39Wormy_ficRemember Ose had a cartoon Scotsman on his page but I think he is from Norway
23:18.52Wormy_ficI think Scotland  can join the Nordic Council if they get independent.
23:19.35AdmiralPandaVikings have all the attractive parts of everywhere they could reach by ocean, so it's not really surprising that most european cultures have at least some link to them
23:20.34Wormy_ficYorkshire and Derbyshire dialect words and certain town names are Viking in origin
23:21.18MonetScotland, Ireland, Wales (I think), Greenland, Iceland and Northern England were all colonised by the vikings.
23:21.46Wormy_fic"Addle" from Yorkshire is Viking tongue
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23:22.39Wormy_ficI had to include actual Vikings http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Fjord_League_of_Northern_Europe#Neovikings
23:24.51Wormy_fichttp://allcomposed.com/a-z-of-scottish-insults/
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23:36.48MonetGoodnight
23:37.39HachimanNight
23:42.25The_QuasipresentOk, I'm out, bye guys!
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23:53.01Wormyhi
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