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00:38.59 | Technodroid | yo |
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00:39.21 | GD12 | hi |
00:39.32 | Knight_Alien | Hello |
00:39.42 | Knight_Alien | I was gone all day. |
00:41.50 | Vincent20100 | Do you want models for your ships? |
00:43.03 | Knight_Alien | Me? |
00:44.09 | Vincent20100 | Drodo |
00:44.19 | Vincent20100 | Or you too Knight |
00:44.35 | Vincent20100 | By the way knight, take a look at this |
00:44.36 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Arms_Market#Missiles |
00:45.28 | DrodoEmpire | That's fine Vincent |
00:45.31 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks though |
00:45.46 | Vincent20100 | ok |
00:45.57 | Vincent20100 | I personnally like to put an image over words |
00:46.28 | Knight_Alien | Excellent Vinct. |
00:46.40 | Vincent20100 | I love fire... |
00:46.50 | Knight_Alien | I love cold and Frost. |
00:46.59 | Knight_Alien | Freeze please! |
00:47.17 | Vincent20100 | Well, that too |
00:47.29 | Vincent20100 | IRL, I prefer Siberian cold. |
00:47.31 | Knight_Alien | Fire I find interesting so don't worry , I don't hate fire. |
00:47.49 | Knight_Alien | Unless it is burning me alive... |
00:48.31 | Vincent20100 | It's kinda of a napalm bomb, but since it use plasma, it reach fore higher temperatures. |
00:48.42 | Wormy | Hi |
00:48.43 | Knight_Alien | Ah. |
00:49.05 | Vincent20100 | It is also a good way to unleash large amout of energy so it is useful to drain energy shields. |
00:50.04 | Knight_Alien | I have a Super weapon do you? |
00:50.27 | Vincent20100 | Not really |
00:50.52 | Knight_Alien | Well time to enter creative mode. |
00:51.13 | Knight_Alien | If you come up with one it sould be called the Iron Fists of the people. |
00:51.22 | Vincent20100 | lol |
00:51.35 | Vincent20100 | The Iron Curtain |
00:51.45 | Vincent20100 | That would fit for a Soviet inspired civ |
00:51.58 | Knight_Alien | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire#Super_Weapons Here is my Super weapon a parasite. |
00:54.42 | Vincent20100 | Parasites... Interesting |
00:54.55 | Vincent20100 | I think Drodo has Zombie-Missiles if I remember |
00:58.05 | Vincent20100 | I will work on one too if possible. |
01:05.25 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
01:06.06 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Biology - Completely rewrote the biology section |
01:12.23 | Vincent20100 | Drodo, there is one crucial information missing there... |
01:12.37 | Vincent20100 | Are they herbivore, omnivore or carnivore? |
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01:13.14 | GD12 | I just noticed the Arms Market has a missile page |
01:13.17 | GD12 | *section |
01:13.32 | DrodoEmpire | Vincent: Good point. |
01:13.35 | DrodoEmpire | Omnivore |
01:13.38 | DrodoEmpire | Anyhow |
01:13.53 | Vincent20100 | YEs GD. ^^ |
01:15.16 | Vincent20100 | The Arms market is one of the most interesting features on the wiki, but people doesn't seems to know it even exist. |
01:16.38 | DrodoEmpire | Some people at least |
01:16.49 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
01:16.50 | GD12 | Well the other thing is that some civilizations don't want to sell their hardware on it as well |
01:16.56 | GD12 | Or it would be nonsensical for them too |
01:17.00 | Vincent20100 | Good point |
01:17.19 | Vincent20100 | But I think it makes things interesting. |
01:17.24 | GD12 | It would be infeasible for Dominatus hardware (both pre-AD and post-AD when they are all dead) to appear on it hur |
01:17.28 | GD12 | Thats very true |
01:17.32 | GD12 | The Arms Market was a genius idea |
01:17.56 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
01:18.17 | Vincent20100 | But people has to accept to no OP their own hardwares |
01:18.53 | Vincent20100 | I mean like not as long as 2 weeks ago, half the statistics were "Exceptional". |
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01:19.36 | DrodoEmpire | Not quite half, but a good point anyhpw |
01:19.38 | DrodoEmpire | *anyhow |
01:20.03 | Vincent20100 | Well, still, we can all agree that there was far too much "Exceptionnal" before |
01:20.09 | GD12 | True |
01:20.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
01:20.34 | DrodoEmpire | Agreed |
01:21.01 | GD12 | begins to think about missiles |
01:21.03 | DrodoEmpire | Though speaking of which I'm bumping a Drodo firearm up a rank; I should capitalize at least some on their proficiency. :P |
01:21.10 | Vincent20100 | By the way, if you want to make guns but don't have a models on spore to make pictures, I can give you some |
01:21.25 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks, though I'm good |
01:21.50 | Vincent20100 | GD12: I added the Plasma-Burner today |
01:21.53 | GD12 | I saw |
01:22.00 | Vincent20100 | If you click on it, it has it's own page |
01:22.12 | Vincent20100 | All my weapons does |
01:22.32 | Vincent20100 | They aren't super-duper cool pages that said |
01:22.54 | GD12 | Its hard enough to make individual pages for equipment so thats quite respectable |
01:22.59 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:23.09 | GD12 | Most of my descriptions of units/weapons are at most 2-3 paragraphs long |
01:23.21 | GD12 | Actually for weapons just one paragraph long since I have the problem of making dozens of them |
01:23.47 | DrodoEmpire | So apparently it was common for samurai and other east asian cavalrymen to used spears and glaives from horseback |
01:23.53 | Vincent20100 | thanks |
01:23.58 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
01:24.18 | Vincent20100 | Spears have good ranges and can be thrown |
01:24.25 | DrodoEmpire | Now all I can picture is Aq'Hualese cav spinning glaives over their heads. XD |
01:24.32 | DrodoEmpire | Spears? No. |
01:24.37 | DrodoEmpire | Almost all are too heavy |
01:24.47 | DrodoEmpire | You need dedicated javelins for that |
01:24.58 | Vincent20100 | Really? A wooden stick with a small piece of bronze |
01:25.12 | DrodoEmpire | Plus even short "duelling" spears where longer than their users. |
01:25.14 | DrodoEmpire | facepalms |
01:25.17 | DrodoEmpire | Ughh.... |
01:25.19 | Vincent20100 | I remember the romans developped spears that could do both |
01:25.24 | DrodoEmpire | They where FAR more than that |
01:25.35 | GD12 | Pilums? |
01:25.43 | GD12 | Pilums were only used for throwing iirc |
01:25.46 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:25.51 | DrodoEmpire | Soft steel; The bent |
01:25.54 | DrodoEmpire | *they |
01:26.01 | GD12 | Pretty sure they bent after throw |
01:26.02 | DrodoEmpire | In a pinch they could but hardly very well |
01:26.02 | Vincent20100 | Ho... My bad |
01:26.03 | GD12 | thus were only one use |
01:26.22 | DrodoEmpire | You need the correct type of wood, the correct thickness, a well-designed head... The lst goes on |
01:26.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hardly a "stick". :P |
01:26.39 | DrodoEmpire | Plus the best woods for making spears where fairly heavy |
01:26.59 | DrodoEmpire | *list |
01:27.06 | Vincent20100 | So GD... |
01:27.24 | Vincent20100 | Are we gonna see a new major competitor on the Arms market? |
01:27.36 | GD12 | No |
01:27.41 | GD12 | Dominatus stuff is generally quite OP |
01:27.52 | GD12 | very OP as you get to the more elite stuff |
01:28.01 | GD12 | That and they're dead as of the end of 2795 |
01:28.02 | Vincent20100 | You could have another empire |
01:28.11 | GD12 | I have to get AD done first |
01:28.19 | GD12 | Which my engineering coursework will delay for a while |
01:29.27 | GD12 | Even if I had another empire at this point, it's focus probably wouldn't be weapons |
01:29.47 | GD12 | Since I've already gotten/am getting a military/weapons/tech/war fix from the Dominatus |
01:30.07 | Vincent20100 | ok |
01:31.07 | GD12 | I have some infantry weapons written up here if thats interesting for you http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drakodominatus_Tyranny/Equipment |
01:34.20 | Vincent20100 | I will keep that under the arm |
01:34.27 | Vincent20100 | has an idea. |
01:34.41 | GD12 | whats the idea huhu |
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01:42.57 | Vincent20100 | Hi Zilla |
01:43.08 | Zillafire101 | Hello all. |
01:43.20 | GD12 | Hello |
01:43.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
01:47.04 | DrodoEmpire | I should attempt drawing a few Aq'Hualese |
01:47.05 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
01:47.18 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe in the style of old photographs |
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01:47.36 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
01:47.42 | Gorzill | Hi |
01:47.43 | GD12 | Hello there |
01:48.05 | DrodoEmpire | Like the way people used to photograph native peoples, Samurai, etc. in the 18 and early 1900's. |
01:48.19 | Knight_Alien | Oh.... |
01:48.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
01:48.35 | Knight_Alien | Sounds like your going to have a fun time. |
01:48.48 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah; if they turn out well. XD |
01:49.11 | DrodoEmpire | I draw a lot but rarely are they ever better than rough sketches |
01:51.12 | Vincent20100 | Hey Drodo, can I ask you something? :) |
01:52.35 | Vincent20100 | hand a Mountain Dew to Drodo. |
01:53.04 | Slaps | What!? |
01:53.34 | Knight_Alien | Slaps it out of his hand and gives him a coke. |
01:54.02 | Knight_Alien | Better. 0u0 |
01:56.26 | Knight_Alien | <PROTECTED> |
01:56.59 | Knight_Alien | Converts Drodo to 0u0ism |
01:57.21 | Knight_Alien | Wow I am messing up a-lot to night. |
02:04.09 | Knight_Alien | Hello? |
02:04.17 | Vincent20100 | ... |
02:05.48 | GD12 | Hello |
02:06.26 | Knight_Alien | Just checking. |
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02:06.50 | Knight_Alien | Vincent you don't like coke do you? 0u0 |
02:08.09 | Vincent20100 | No. |
02:08.13 | Vincent20100 | Juices only |
02:08.16 | Vincent20100 | or water |
02:08.33 | DrodoEmpire | I have soft drinks sometimes. :P Not too often though |
02:08.47 | Vincent20100 | And I try to drink more water as time pass |
02:10.15 | Knight_Alien | I drink mostly water. |
02:11.06 | Knight_Alien | But mountain dew must be punished when you hand a man of 0u0ism a Can of it. |
02:11.11 | Knight_Alien | XD |
02:16.28 | Vincent20100 | lol |
02:18.14 | Vincent20100 | Gotta go too |
02:18.22 | Vincent20100 | ++ |
02:18.47 | GD12 | i've got to study |
02:18.48 | GD12 | gtg too |
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02:19.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
02:20.00 | FennicFoxezAreLi | Hi |
02:20.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
02:20.10 | DrodoEmpire | New user to SporeWiki? |
02:20.13 | Knight_Alien | Fennic are you new? |
02:20.14 | FennicFoxezAreLi | Yeah |
02:20.18 | DrodoEmpire | If so, welcome |
02:20.19 | FennicFoxezAreLi | Yeah I am |
02:20.27 | FennicFoxezAreLi | But I have been playin spore for 3 years.. |
02:20.35 | FennicFoxezAreLi | so :P |
02:20.44 | DrodoEmpire | You're actually here at more or less the "slow-hours"; Usually theirs even more people including most of the administrators |
02:20.49 | DrodoEmpire | Just so you know |
02:20.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
02:20.51 | DrodoEmpire | I se |
02:20.52 | DrodoEmpire | *see |
02:20.59 | DrodoEmpire | *there's |
02:21.20 | FennicFoxezAreLi | I recently got a new laptop and I am gettin Galactic Adventures :P |
02:21.26 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, nice |
02:21.31 | DrodoEmpire | Its a good expansion |
02:22.10 | FennicFoxezAreLi | Yay a little more than halfway done... |
02:23.48 | FennicFoxezAreLi | ._. |
02:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
02:24.41 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Biology - Added a small paragraph to biology if anyone wants to check it out |
02:25.13 | FennicFoxezAreLi | "Installing C:\...\Electronic Arts/SPORE_EP1\Data\Spore_EP1_Data.package" |
02:25.22 | DrodoEmpire | Writing about the biology is actually a nice shift from writing a almost undue amount on there military and tactics. XD |
02:25.37 | DrodoEmpire | I see... |
02:26.19 | FennicFoxezAreLi | Spore should have like a multiplay option where you can play with other people/creatures |
02:26.28 | FennicFoxezAreLi | That'd be awesome... |
02:26.30 | Knight_Alien | It is good to do somthing different. |
02:26.30 | DrodoEmpire | Eh... |
02:26.32 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe |
02:26.34 | FennicFoxezAreLi | YAY ITS DONE INSTALLING |
02:26.45 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be difficult to implement but perhaps |
02:27.13 | FennicFoxezAreLi | Yeah... |
02:27.18 | Knight_Alien | That Super weapons thing was out of the box for me. |
02:27.24 | FennicFoxezAreLi | I dont even think they are working on spore... |
02:27.41 | Knight_Alien | Ea and Maxis abandoned spore. |
02:27.44 | DrodoEmpire | The superweapon thing? |
02:27.45 | FennicFoxezAreLi | D: |
02:27.48 | Vincent20100 | You know what Drodo, tomorow, only using the description you gave there, I will try create a Drodo |
02:27.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah; Because its its own section |
02:27.57 | Vincent20100 | That will be interesting |
02:28.02 | DrodoEmpire | Sure |
02:28.15 | DrodoEmpire | Go ahead; I'd be interested in seeing the end result |
02:28.23 | Knight_Alien | The Super weapon thing http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire#Super_Weapons |
02:28.55 | FennicFoxezAreLi | I want to get mods for Spore... |
02:28.57 | FennicFoxezAreLi | But :P |
02:28.58 | Knight_Alien | A-lot of my Fictioning things are out of the box actually. |
02:29.33 | DrodoEmpire | As a reference Vincent here's Hachi's go at it - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Drodo.png |
02:30.03 | Knight_Alien | Drodo what was your version of the Drodo? |
02:30.09 | DrodoEmpire | None that is canon |
02:30.22 | DrodoEmpire | One made years ago but I since totally shook up there biology |
02:30.29 | Knight_Alien | You deleted them? |
02:30.39 | DrodoEmpire | The image is probably somewhere |
02:30.42 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
02:30.52 | Knight_Alien | Hope is low but still alive. |
02:30.55 | Knight_Alien | :{ |
02:30.55 | DrodoEmpire | But its bad and, again, non-canon |
02:31.06 | DrodoEmpire | I've since made them humanoid |
02:31.35 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
02:31.43 | FennicFoxezAreLi | brb |
02:31.50 | Vincent20100 | And with respect, I think you can do better creatures than that. ^^ |
02:32.25 | Knight_Alien | I still need to make a page for the Eldarisian race. |
02:32.30 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps so now, yeah |
02:32.53 | DrodoEmpire | But I don't play spore much anymore; I probably still am abysmal |
02:32.56 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
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02:33.09 | FennecFoxLuvr | Hekki? |
02:33.12 | Vincent20100 | Hey |
02:33.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
02:33.17 | FennecFoxLuvr | *Hello |
02:33.19 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, hi |
02:33.21 | FennecFoxLuvr | Meh bad... |
02:33.24 | FennecFoxLuvr | XD |
02:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | Its fine |
02:33.26 | Knight_Alien | And if you notice they have flagella on their sides still. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140903025246/spore/images/5/55/Eldarisian_Race.png See the flagella. |
02:33.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
02:34.19 | Vincent20100 | Knight your creature make me think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctwww610xec |
02:34.27 | Knight_Alien | I still need to make a purpose for them. But so far it is looking in the Direction of being a sexual part. |
02:34.52 | Knight_Alien | XD |
02:34.54 | Vincent20100 | -_- |
02:35.17 | Vincent20100 | On my side, the Algolurns are suppose to reproduce sexually, but it is no longer the case |
02:35.31 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, its natural; Dunno what's so gross or funny about it. :P |
02:35.43 | Vincent20100 | They have their reproductive cells retired at young ages |
02:35.44 | Knight_Alien | Eldarisian don't have sexual parts in the area you would expect. |
02:35.54 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
02:36.02 | Vincent20100 | The reproductive cells are used in vat reproduction |
02:36.32 | FennecFoxLuvr | Å.Å |
02:36.35 | FennecFoxLuvr | ... |
02:36.36 | Vincent20100 | spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Vat-Reproduction |
02:36.36 | Knight_Alien | So I am thinking of a Atari approach were they sort of mentally do that stuff or some other way. |
02:36.42 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Vat-Reproduction |
02:36.46 | DrodoEmpire | While we're on the... "Subject"; Drodo basically reproduce the same way as humans; Put a male and female in a bedroom, the fool around, six months later there's a little baby. :P |
02:36.47 | Knight_Alien | *Astari* |
02:36.52 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, why are we talking about this? |
02:37.06 | Vincent20100 | Those woundering how my sepcie reproduce: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Vat-Reproduction |
02:37.06 | Knight_Alien | I mentoined Flagella and it's uses. |
02:37.13 | OfficerJackal | Err... Well, not sure how to contribute to this. |
02:37.40 | FennecFoxLuvr | Im not saying my age; but I think im alot younger than all of you XD |
02:37.47 | DrodoEmpire | Meh. |
02:37.52 | Vincent20100 | That is possible. ^^ |
02:37.53 | Knight_Alien | So far a Astari version of Reproduction is my choice. |
02:37.56 | DrodoEmpire | Its just those two clowns are weird. :P |
02:37.59 | OfficerJackal | put's a ski-mask over his face. |
02:38.00 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
02:38.14 | DrodoEmpire | We don't usually talk about how species have sex... |
02:38.15 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
02:38.20 | DrodoEmpire | Unless you're Hachi |
02:38.23 | Knight_Alien | I don't think dirty but It is somthing that comes up. |
02:38.24 | Galack | VINCENT20100: EERRRRGGHHHHHHHH |
02:38.33 | DrodoEmpire | Oh god... |
02:38.41 | DrodoEmpire | Not Galak |
02:38.46 | Galack | VINCENT20100: VATS... LET ME COVER THEM IN BARBASOL AND THEN RUB GENNNNTTTLLLYYYYY AGAINST THEM. |
02:38.48 | Knight_Alien | Irc:So my flagella.... |
02:38.57 | Vincent20100 | Drodo Galack: Hey guys, could you make a quote on my page plz? :) |
02:39.05 | Vincent20100 | ... |
02:39.14 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe |
02:39.20 | Vincent20100 | :( |
02:39.28 | DrodoEmpire | Well, maybe later |
02:39.34 | Vincent20100 | -_- |
02:39.44 | Knight_Alien | Is it normal for races to do a Astari approach to sexual reproduction? |
02:39.46 | DrodoEmpire | I just realized I said the same thing twice. |
02:39.51 | Galack | DON'T BE SAD, THE BARBASOL WILL BE A FAD, AND NOW LAY. DOWN. AND. BE BADADSDIWQDWQDIW@I@JQ()DM@ |
02:39.54 | Vincent20100 | -_- <--- Is that a lame face, or a Chinese? Nobody knows... |
02:40.00 | FennecFoxLuvr | XD |
02:40.02 | Knight_Alien | Well their are still men and females but still. |
02:40.06 | DrodoEmpire | dats so racist m8 |
02:40.29 | Vincent20100 | Knight, I 'm not sure |
02:40.34 | FennecFoxLuvr | Ima just play Spore... |
02:40.46 | Vincent20100 | lol Fennec, don't be affraid |
02:40.56 | FennecFoxLuvr | XD |
02:41.05 | Vincent20100 | Jackal/Galack is just... |
02:41.10 | Vincent20100 | just... |
02:41.17 | DrodoEmpire | Probably a good idea until these two done with there secksy talk |
02:41.26 | Knight_Alien | Well my Idea is that Flagella shows their Gender but isn't used , besides in war for a stamina boost. |
02:41.34 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
02:41.49 | Vincent20100 | What kind of Stamina boost? ^^ |
02:41.52 | Galack | Knight_Alien: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbasol#mediaviewer/File:Barbasol_Original_10oz_sm.jpg - WFNIWQFFIEWFINWFIWFWEAFINEWWFEINWANEIFEWNI ERRRRGHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAGHGHHHHH |
02:41.56 | Knight_Alien | And so comes in the Astari apporach even though they still have genders. |
02:42.03 | DrodoEmpire | So its a form of sexual dimorphism |
02:42.29 | DrodoEmpire | Galak, pardon my French but... |
02:42.29 | Knight_Alien | Yah. |
02:42.31 | Vincent20100 | I like my way of reproduction. ^^ |
02:42.36 | DrodoEmpire | ...What in the fuck? XD |
02:42.38 | Knight_Alien | Also Vincent lets just say any boost.... |
02:42.39 | Galack | MADE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE KNEELING ELEPHANT. |
02:43.00 | Vincent20100 | Vats for the win! |
02:43.06 | Knight_Alien | No!!! |
02:43.19 | Knight_Alien | Mental Reproduction FTW! |
02:43.38 | Knight_Alien | XD |
02:43.42 | Galack | VINCENT20100 KNIGHT_ALIEN: NO, GO INTO THE BARBASOL... AND FUSE TOGETHER. |
02:43.42 | Vincent20100 | ... That's kinda strange for me... |
02:43.42 | Galack | FUSE. |
02:43.47 | Galack | FUSE! |
02:43.51 | Vincent20100 | ... |
02:43.57 | Knight_Alien | No. |
02:44.03 | Vincent20100 | I need to sleep now... |
02:44.10 | Vincent20100 | NOT IN BARBASOL! |
02:44.15 | Knight_Alien | I don't fuse with others. |
02:44.20 | OfficerJackal | And I'm done. XD |
02:44.25 | DrodoEmpire | jumps on top of Knight Alien and starts spraying Barbasol into his mouth |
02:44.34 | DrodoEmpire | FUUUUUSE |
02:44.41 | Knight_Alien | Mentally hits him off. |
02:44.44 | OfficerJackal | But to be honest, all the species of my fiction reproduces just like humans, because I'm unimaginable as fuck. |
02:44.48 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
02:44.51 | DrodoEmpire | Its okay. XD |
02:44.56 | Vincent20100 | looks at them drunkly, and take a swig of his vodka bottle |
02:45.04 | DrodoEmpire | I personally find it odd to talk too much about how they have sex. :P |
02:45.09 | Knight_Alien | Vincent Fuse with Officer! |
02:45.17 | DrodoEmpire | Unless its very unique or unusual; Or it must be talked about |
02:45.25 | Vincent20100 | prefer fusing with vodka |
02:45.27 | Knight_Alien | The Vats await. |
02:45.31 | OfficerJackal | I CAN GIVE A DETAILED ACCOUNT... ON THE SPECIES OF WPU AND HOW THEY... COMBINE TOGETHER IN HOLY MATRIMONY. |
02:45.42 | DrodoEmpire | We scared Wormy guise |
02:45.44 | DrodoEmpire | stahp |
02:45.46 | Knight_Alien | XD |
02:45.48 | Vincent20100 | See what you did Knight and Jackal! |
02:45.55 | Vincent20100 | You affraid Wormy |
02:45.55 | DrodoEmpire | And Vinny-boy... |
02:45.59 | OfficerJackal | A FEMALE. |
02:46.01 | OfficerJackal | AND A MALE. |
02:46.03 | OfficerJackal | GO INTO THE CAR. |
02:46.06 | DrodoEmpire | With all a' yer newfangled vatz |
02:46.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hey... |
02:46.13 | Knight_Alien | Officer no!!! |
02:46.15 | Vincent20100 | ^^ |
02:46.16 | FennecFoxLuvr | I gtg in 10 minutes :P |
02:46.22 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
02:46.34 | OfficerJackal | Right, but that's enough weird talk. XD I don't want to be scaring away people. |
02:46.43 | Knight_Alien | Fennec how was your first irc talk XD. |
02:46.46 | Vincent20100 | I will go now, stop traumatizing news people guys! |
02:46.54 | Knight_Alien | Ok....:{ |
02:46.58 | FennecFoxLuvr | Lo |
02:47.00 | FennecFoxLuvr | Lol |
02:47.03 | FennecFoxLuvr | Idk XD |
02:48.35 | Knight_Alien | Wormy got scared off fast. |
02:50.55 | OfficerJackal | Vincent ded. |
02:52.32 | FennecFoxLuvr | Im not liek trying to be a stalker or anything but who has skype? :P |
02:52.34 | FennecFoxLuvr | like |
02:52.52 | OfficerJackal | I have Skype. |
02:52.53 | DrodoEmpire | MMe |
02:52.55 | DrodoEmpire | *Me |
02:53.12 | FennecFoxLuvr | ok XD |
02:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | Two accounts; A "regular" account for good friends and family, and an Rp account for Sporewiki people and other lil' shits |
02:54.43 | FennecFoxLuvr | lol |
02:55.09 | FennecFoxLuvr | If u wanna add me my name is FennecFoxesFurLife |
02:59.55 | FennecFoxLuvr | Ehhh |
02:59.56 | FennecFoxLuvr | I gtg |
03:00.14 | OfficerJackal | Alright, see you later! |
03:00.42 | DrodoEmpire | Bye |
03:00.42 | FennecFoxLuvr | Savin this page to meh favorites.. |
03:00.54 | FennecFoxLuvr | Ok |
03:00.56 | FennecFoxLuvr | Bai! |
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03:02.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
03:03.02 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
03:07.30 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
03:43.02 | Knight_Alien | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Eldarisian Finished with the Eldarisian Page. |
03:43.41 | Knight_Alien | Tell me what you think. |
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04:42.49 | DrodoEmpire | test |
04:45.14 | TekPC | DrodoEmpire: pass |
04:46.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yay |
04:51.19 | TekPC | All the Farengeto-built ships are on here now, adding the rest. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFarengeto_Trade_Coalition/Military |
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05:12.00 | OfficerJackal | TekPC Looks good. :D |
05:12.15 | OfficerJackal | Anyways, I got to go, see you all later! |
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05:47.47 | ImpyDroid | My friend apparently talked with a guy from Iraq |
05:47.57 | ImpyDroid | The first thing he asked was if she is married :p |
05:59.05 | ImpyDroid | *was |
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06:16.54 | TekPC | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Trade_Coalition/Military Added most of these now. |
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07:49.25 | Jepardi | Hi |
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08:25.30 | Ghelae | Hello. |
09:56.34 | Liquid_Ink | I just noticed a Technodroid. |
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11:06.52 | Monet | Hello |
11:11.01 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
11:12.22 | Liquid_Ink | Howdy. |
11:12.41 | Liquid_Ink | For a horrible moment I thought there were three Technos. |
11:12.46 | Liquid_Ink | But there's only two. |
11:15.36 | AdmiralPanda | why is having more techno a bad thing? |
11:15.46 | AdmiralPanda | we should have five technos |
11:19.44 | Monet | Well there's one less Techno |
11:23.17 | Liquid_Ink | Well, that isn't to say that Techno is bad, it's just that multiple Technos might get confusing. |
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11:25.19 | Wormy | hi |
11:25.33 | Monet | Hi |
11:25.45 | Monet | Working on a picture of Uriel and Alensia I have come to the conclusion that giving Draconsi longer necks was a wise decision: it makes them look more swanlike. |
11:27.45 | Wormy | I see |
11:31.28 | Monet | Although I wonder if they were either naturally like that or if social pressure and genetic engineering have encouraged more slender necks. |
11:35.23 | AdmiralPanda | we don't really have a biological analogue so I'd say it probably leans towards the latter |
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11:36.34 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: True |
11:36.36 | Monet | Hi |
11:36.58 | Monet | Who knows, maybe in at least some societies genetically modified beauty becomes the new plastic surgery? |
11:39.46 | Wormy | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-29175003 |
11:41.24 | Monet | It must be a terrible distraction to hang all those paintings in an exam hall |
11:48.09 | Wormy | yes |
11:48.16 | AdmiralPanda | robocraft fliers are so damn annoying, but they're also the most fun part of the game |
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11:50.05 | Jepardi | Hi |
11:50.07 | AdmiralPanda | you lose a single block and suddenly it becomes retardedly hard to fly |
11:52.53 | AdmiralPanda | well, that match was ridiculous- I managed to land six or seven salvoes on a ground tank, but because he managed to keep one SMG alive he shot me down |
11:53.04 | AdmiralPanda | I didn't die but I was out of the fight |
12:01.53 | Technobliterator | oh |
12:01.58 | Technobliterator | apparently I'm logged in here :o |
12:02.05 | OluapPlayer | dum |
12:07.35 | Wormy | Maybe I'm wrong about aliens in different environments having intuition of those environments https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/508923120737329152 |
12:09.30 | AdmiralPanda | I don't get what you mean by that at all |
12:15.24 | Wormy | Well, aliens living in an exotic environment like a neutron star core might have a more inyuitive understand of fluid mechanics, but ideas like geometry might be an abstraction much further away |
12:15.42 | Wormy | Since no rigid shapes would be possible |
12:16.04 | Wormy | While for us Earthbound creatures, geometry is easier to access than fluid mechanics |
12:18.09 | Wormy | But what they are discussing, it scepticism of intuition. After-all, we take Galilean and Newtonian mechanics as easier to understand than say, Einstein's relativity, but both those explanations are actually very counter-intuitive as it took centuries of work. We still have to learn those theoriies |
12:18.31 | Wormy | In a similar way, a relativistic creature may still find relativity counter-intuitive. |
12:18.54 | Wormy | That kind of smashes the view I've had on windows of abstraction I must admit. |
12:21.39 | Wormy | I still think our basic perception of physics is locked in by limits of A) our brain B) the environment, and that some abstractions (of say, mathematics) are easier to access than others, but it doesn't mean relativity is any easier for a bioship that evolved sentience and cxan travel at reelativistic speeds and starts pondering about it |
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12:24.33 | FennecFoxLuver | Hello |
12:24.56 | FennecFoxLuver | .=. |
12:24.59 | FennecFoxLuver | .-. |
12:26.20 | Monet | Hello |
12:26.54 | FennecFoxLuver | Yay an answer XD |
12:35.19 | Wormy | Science is win win "If you find you are wrong, you have learned something" |
12:36.17 | Wormy | hi |
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12:44.02 | Knight_Alien | Hello. |
12:46.14 | AdmiralPanda | One thing that really bugs me about robocraft: You would think that adding extra wings would give you a bit of redundancy in the case on got shot off, right? |
12:47.04 | AdmiralPanda | in robocraft, if you lose a wing, your craft suddenly becomes utterly uncontrollable- even losing a single block anywhere will hamper your ability to steer |
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13:00.19 | Wormy | Oh wow the Director of the film Brazil ismaking this http://vimeo.com/ondemand/thezerotheorem/103267367 |
13:02.23 | Wormy | oh, its been released |
13:02.30 | Wormy | I'll have to watch that |
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13:08.42 | Imperios | Hello |
13:09.52 | Wormy | hi |
13:10.26 | Monet | Hi |
13:10.31 | Monet | Brazil is old school |
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13:16.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
13:16.57 | FennecFoxLuver | Hi |
13:20.21 | FennecFoxLuver | How do I get a colored name... |
13:20.25 | FennecFoxLuver | .-. |
13:20.48 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure; I have that deactivated. :P |
13:21.02 | FennecFoxLuver | Oh... Well ur name is green to me... |
13:21.08 | FennecFoxLuver | :P |
13:21.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
13:21.38 | Knight_Alien | You can disable and enable colored names in the Irc options. |
13:21.46 | Knight_Alien | I have it off. |
13:21.55 | AdmiralPanda | your name is always black to you |
13:22.02 | FennecFoxLuver | hhhh |
13:22.05 | FennecFoxLuver | Ohhh |
13:27.31 | FennecFoxLuver | Soo.... :| |
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13:27.42 | Hachiman | Hai |
13:27.48 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
13:28.13 | Wormy | Your name is almost the colour of Drodo's |
13:28.16 | Hachiman | Wormy: What were those large abhuman guys I came up with years ago called again? |
13:28.17 | Wormy | hi |
13:28.28 | Wormy | Roburans? |
13:29.07 | Hachiman | Yeah that was it |
13:29.09 | Wormy | I think they were called that. |
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13:30.09 | Knight_Alien | What where the Roburans? |
13:30.45 | Hachiman | Basically giant humans |
13:31.08 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
13:31.20 | Knight_Alien | Oh. |
13:31.45 | AdmiralPanda | I've got no idea what to work on |
13:32.09 | Knight_Alien | That's me most of the time.... |
13:33.06 | Knight_Alien | When I am not editing small things , I am waiting. |
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13:33.34 | AdmiralPanda | I've just got half a dozen things I could be doing and I've got no idea which one to do things for |
13:34.03 | Hachiman | Wormy: I wonder if posthuman hybrids are common in the galaxy |
13:34.15 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Quest#La_Petite_Mort |
13:34.30 | Xho | Hachi - boners galore |
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13:35.22 | Spu | Internet |
13:35.24 | Spu | Stop it |
13:35.31 | Wormy | Most likely |
13:36.23 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: Funnily enough it wasn't Hachi getting aroused |
13:37.10 | Hachiman | I've always wondered if there was a specific point where human divergents become unable to breed |
13:38.11 | Spu | Empire of Man - dis is the ultimate state of being |
13:38.56 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: It's kinda hard to artificially create a point at which interbreeding becomes impossible |
13:39.00 | AdmiralPanda | take a look at dogs, for example |
13:40.48 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10685350_349639305211728_7643950428500113076_n.jpg?oh=213aa98103ced4b797affea3fa09cb01&oe=54964FC2&__gda__=1422513694_a55a3ed30acaa09f60857eaa772b90e2 |
13:40.51 | Imperios | Well, that's not genetic, but, say, breeding wolves with pugs would be... problematic |
13:41.13 | AdmiralPanda | Imperios: Actually, it's a matter of genetics typically long before it's a matter of physiology |
13:41.29 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: incorrect, that field would be farmed to dust |
13:42.01 | AdmiralPanda | actually, that's incorrect too- it would be farmed to a bountiful yield of wealth and prosperity, which would then be spent on burning everything else to dust |
13:43.19 | Spu | This bar fight reminds me of some spaghetti western mash up hur |
13:43.37 | AdmiralPanda | "Religion is like a penis - it's perfectly normal to have one, and to take pride in it, but if someone pulls it out and waves it in my face, we're going to have problems." |
13:44.07 | AdmiralPanda | the kind of insightful WTF that appears on my Facebook page every so often |
13:46.14 | Hachiman | Well since it's confirmed that Hachiman is part of a "species" of post/transhumans (can't remember the difference hur) I wonder what I should call them |
13:47.06 | Imperios | "dum buni" |
13:47.44 | AdmiralPanda | do you mean whether he can still be considered part of the human species? |
13:47.47 | Hachiman | I'm tempted to go with "Efrafans" as a reference to the antagonists of Watership Down |
13:50.13 | Spu | OluapPlayer: noic secshun |
13:50.47 | AdmiralPanda | oh also, Andromeda people: during the Shattering, how would your respective factions respond to the Fordanta going full-on purge mode? |
13:51.19 | Imperios | Probably slightly suspicious |
13:51.40 | AdmiralPanda | I'm asking because I want to slip in somewhere an explanation of how the Fordan military mindset came to be, but it makes zero sense for one warrior to be discussing it with another |
13:52.33 | AdmiralPanda | so I figured I might be able to find some sort of vehicle to do so in one of the other factions |
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13:53.24 | Hachiman | Fucking goddamn internet |
13:53.30 | Hachiman | I dc'd after my last message |
13:54.05 | AdmiralPanda | rite |
13:54.10 | Hachiman | I was saying that I was tempted to give Hachi's kind the name "Efrafans" in reference to Watership Down and saying to Panda that Hachi's "kind" are descendants of humanity |
13:54.52 | AdmiralPanda | so you're looking for a common race name, in other words? |
13:56.30 | Hachiman | Pretty much |
13:56.41 | Hachiman | And a taxonomic name |
13:58.40 | AdmiralPanda | the taxonomic name would probably include 'lepus' in some variation, the common name I can't help with much |
14:01.10 | Wormy | Hachi: I thought of usinbg the term "Ur-human" today |
14:01.18 | Hachiman | Also I imagine that they wouldn't be exclusively Japanese/Yamato citizens either; you'd probably find populations of them across societies like France, the EAC, etc |
14:01.22 | Hachiman | Wormy: Ur-human? |
14:01.38 | Imperios | As in, proto-human |
14:02.00 | Wormy | "Ur-" is often used when something isn't qauite the same |
14:02.01 | Imperios | Ur = German for "original", "old" |
14:02.44 | Wormy | I thought it could be a Terran "purist" term for other Near-humans |
14:03.04 | Wormy | even derogatory |
14:05.25 | Hachiman | I imagine there would be a variety of terms, stuff like "ur-human" could be one of them |
14:06.19 | AdmiralPanda | Hachi: Are Hachi's people able to interbreed with humans? |
14:06.24 | Hachiman | I imagine so |
14:06.46 | AdmiralPanda | in that case the scientific name would probably be something along the lines of Homo sapiens lepus |
14:07.03 | Hachiman | They have largely humanlike genitalia after all and share humanoid physiology |
14:07.34 | Knight_Alien | We were talking about this stuff last night XD |
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14:08.04 | Hachiman | Fucking goddammit |
14:08.10 | Knight_Alien | :L |
14:08.17 | AdmiralPanda | in that case the scientific name would probably be something along the lines of Homo sapiens lepus |
14:08.33 | AdmiralPanda | assuming they retain the same chromosome count and structure then they'd be able to interbreed |
14:08.50 | Hachiman | "Homo sapiens lepus" is good, now I just need to think of a racial name |
14:08.58 | Hachiman | I am tempted to go with "Efrafans" |
14:09.32 | Hachiman | But then I feel that would be far too unoriginal |
14:10.25 | AdmiralPanda | where's Monet when you need him |
14:10.37 | AdmiralPanda | I just imagined Kaios giving him a drunk call |
14:10.40 | AdmiralPanda | and it was glorious |
14:10.41 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10616558_1049401285089324_331958541358071434_n.jpg?oh=f33287398d7e9199c47c973129802b2e&oe=5494C9E8 |
14:10.44 | AdmiralPanda | giving Larnus* |
14:11.00 | Wormy | <PROTECTED> |
14:11.32 | Knight_Alien | Monet is busy in RL. |
14:12.16 | Hachiman | People are free to pose ideas for race names btw |
14:12.35 | Wormy | I'll have a think of one |
14:13.17 | Spu | Hachiman: you have George Takei on Facebook as well hur |
14:13.22 | Hachiman | Aye hur |
14:14.00 | Spu | "IT'S NOT WHO YOU ARE UNDERNEATH, BUT WHAT YOU DO THAT DEFINES YOU" |
14:14.38 | AdmiralPanda | btw Hachiman: how would the Zazane react to the Fordanta going purge-mode? |
14:15.17 | Hachiman | AdmiralPanda: Well Zazane have a policy against driving your enemies to extinction and killing non-military populaces |
14:16.10 | Spu | Kicath - u srs |
14:16.10 | AdmiralPanda | so quite negatively |
14:17.32 | Hachiman | Yeah quite negatively, they may be a militant species but they have their own self-imposed boundaries |
14:20.02 | AdmiralPanda | excellent, cus I want an excuse to explain how the Fordan military mentality came to be, but it makes no sense for one Fordanta to discuss it with another Fordanta |
14:24.36 | Hachiman | Zazane, despite their reputation, are a rather considerate race by comparison. They'll wear down your military and knock you down but then they'll pick up the pieces to make you better |
14:25.50 | AdmiralPanda | so would it be possible for a zazane of some description to send a WTF guys? message over to the Fordanta to facilitate such a thing happening? |
14:26.12 | Knight_Alien | XD |
14:26.18 | Hachiman | Perhaps, although that depends if such a matter really concerns them |
14:26.33 | Wormy_away | The DCP aren't always as cruel as they are thought of. Most of the time they absorb the enemy, not extinct them |
14:27.16 | Hachiman | If it does then they'll make it clear that such actions are not condoned by their society and military philosophy and dismiss the Fordanta's actions as largely unnecessary over any justification |
14:27.21 | Wormy_away | Its only when fighting against, say, the Dominatus, do they seek genocide or punishment as the only option. |
14:29.05 | Imperios | The Divinarium does not support genocide obviously, so yeah they will not like that |
14:29.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: As for Hachi's species name... "TÄ", perhaps? |
14:30.00 | Imperios | That's Chinese for "diffferent" |
14:30.41 | Hachiman | TÄ |
14:30.42 | Hachiman | I like it, it's short and rather simple yet sounds rather cute hur |
14:31.26 | Imperios | Chinese is a rather laconic language hur |
14:31.39 | Imperios | Although I don't like the sound of it, it's very... disharmonic |
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14:31.45 | Hachiman | Although I should say that Hachi's species aren't Japanese/Asian exclusively; they're likely to be found across most human societies in the modern galaxy |
14:31.46 | Imperios | or disharmonious |
14:31.54 | MasterMachine | Hey |
14:32.35 | Imperios | Asian or not, Chinese is the most widespread human language, so using it would make sense |
14:33.05 | Hachiman | Yeah that's true |
14:33.36 | Hachiman | How is that pronounced? |
14:37.24 | Hachiman | dum |
14:38.31 | Imperios | "Ta-a-h", a bit aspirated |
14:39.52 | Hachiman | rite |
14:42.36 | Hachiman | I'm wondering a lot about their history, whether they should be the result of lost human generation ships colonizing a cold world and using self-imposed physiological evolution to adapt and rebuild their society or if they should be descendants of hominids that were whisked away from Earth by precursors and changed and implanted on another world |
14:48.29 | MasterMachine | Hey, anyone here from the UK? |
14:48.33 | MasterMachine | (and not afk) |
14:48.42 | Hachiman | I am |
14:48.59 | MasterMachine | I'm curious, what is your opinion on Scotlands independence vote thingy? |
14:50.59 | Hachiman | If they want it they can have it, but they shouldn't keep the pound sterling if they really want independence and if stuff goes wrong for them then they shouldn't come crying back to us |
14:51.08 | MasterMachine | xD |
14:51.28 | MasterMachine | What do you think about their being the largest oil producer in the EU? |
14:51.47 | Hachiman | We still have Russia |
14:51.52 | MasterMachine | xD |
14:52.24 | MasterMachine | Didn't Russia basically shut down fuel to Europe though? Or is it solely to Ukrain? (which I spelled wrong) |
14:52.37 | Hachiman | I think it's solely for Ukraine |
14:52.46 | Hachiman | Imperios / ImpyDroid would no |
14:52.47 | MasterMachine | Ah |
14:52.47 | Hachiman | know* |
14:53.37 | Hachiman | Personally I don't blame Scotland for wanting to separate from the crappy British economy and politics |
14:54.14 | MasterMachine | hur |
14:54.24 | MasterMachine | I wonder if Wales will try to leave too hur |
14:54.40 | Hachiman | If it feels confident it can handle itself then they're free to try but I have a feeling that the benefits brought by Scottish independence will only be short-lived |
14:54.42 | MasterMachine | The (Not)United Kingdom |
14:54.42 | MasterMachine | Sorry |
14:55.04 | Imperios | Mostly to Ukraine, yes, although we did sever some of our ties with Russia |
14:55.10 | Imperios | *with Europe |
14:55.13 | MasterMachine | lol |
14:55.33 | MasterMachine | I suppose if Russia wanted to they could just sell oil to China right? |
15:07.13 | Imperios | China, Central Asia, other East Asian countries, etc etc |
15:07.23 | Imperios | That is what we are doing |
15:09.02 | MasterMachine | Hur |
15:10.29 | MasterMachine | Russia - "Sorry Westies, we don't need you anymore..." Western Nations - "NOOOOO, OUR OIL SUPPLY! I mean, uh... Poor Ukraine!" |
15:13.02 | Imperios | So, are we going to RP today? |
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15:21.53 | Hachiman | Imperios: Doubt it |
15:21.56 | Hachiman | dumba |
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15:26.12 | Hachiman | dumba |
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15:35.03 | Cyrannian | Hello. |
15:35.25 | Hachiman | Hai Cyr |
15:35.48 | Technobliterator | my IRC client is bugging today :| |
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15:35.55 | Technobliterator | so I should be properly here now |
15:35.56 | Technobliterator | hey guys |
15:36.17 | Vincent20100 | Hey! |
15:37.09 | MasterMachine | Hi Vincent, I'm sorry I've been so inactive. College is taking up more of my time than I expected. I probably won't be able to keep up with the invasion very well :/ |
15:37.12 | Vincent20100 | So, how are you guys? |
15:37.52 | MasterMachine | On that note, I'm actually doing homework right now, so I can't work on fiction atm :./ |
15:38.36 | Vincent20100 | It's okay |
15:38.45 | Vincent20100 | Master, have you seen the Wiki main page? |
15:38.58 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki |
15:40.15 | Vincent20100 | is happy. ^^ |
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15:41.09 | MasterMachine_ | F*ck you too firefox -_- |
15:41.22 | MasterMachine_ | What was that link you sent me Vince? |
15:41.42 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki |
15:42.05 | Vincent20100 | I love seeing myself on the front page. ^^ |
15:42.09 | MasterMachine_ | Nice, you got your fiction featured :P |
15:43.05 | Vincent20100 | ^^ |
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15:43.50 | Vincent20100 | Hi Oulap |
15:45.07 | Cyrannian | ~slap OluapPlayer |
15:45.07 | infobot | ACTION slaps OluapPlayer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
15:46.02 | Vincent20100 | ~poke Cyrannian |
15:46.02 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cyrannian, pokes Cyrannian repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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15:48.22 | TekDroid | Hello |
15:51.36 | Wormy_away | Hachiman: So yesterday I learned in South Africa you can have flamethrowers installed on your car because of hijacking |
15:51.43 | Hachiman | Geezush christ |
15:52.00 | Wormy_away | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc |
15:53.02 | Wormy_away | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQbHnLSasfQ |
15:53.05 | Wormy_away | Better video |
15:53.15 | TekDroid | O.o |
15:54.41 | TekDroid | O.O |
15:54.57 | TekDroid | that is... wow. |
15:58.23 | TekDroid | Is it really that bad in South Africa? |
16:04.23 | MasterMachine_ | -listens to music while doing homework- -puts headphones in without lowing the volume because dumbo- -AJHKJVAJSGVJASSASSS_ |
16:04.39 | TekDroid | Lol |
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16:10.18 | FennecFoxLuvr | Hello |
16:10.36 | MasterMachine_ | Hi |
16:10.38 | TekDroid | Hello |
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16:14.44 | Wormy_away | ah hah hah silly yob http://youtu.be/IPVa3mbnZDM?t=5m9s |
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16:24.29 | MasterMachine_ | explodes |
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16:50.59 | ImpyDroid | http://www.movoto.com/st-petersburg-fl/st-petersburg-stereotypes/ ...I don't get it |
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16:51.18 | Knight_Alien | Hello |
16:51.52 | OfficerJackal | Hey! |
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16:54.45 | ImpyDroid | It probably doesn't hurt that the city holds the Guinness Book's world record for most consecutive days of sunshineâat 768âand it's the sunniest place on Earth, with an annual average of 361 days of sunshine ...Wait |
16:54.51 | MasterMachine_ | hi |
16:55.15 | ImpyDroid | Where is that Saint-Petersburg copycat located anyway |
16:55.28 | MasterMachine_ | Hmm |
16:55.31 | MasterMachine_ | Tampa |
16:55.35 | MasterMachine_ | I know that name damnit |
16:55.37 | MasterMachine_ | lol |
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16:56.41 | MasterMachine | Jkajgkjvjavkavhjckvasjkcvkdsghckcdnvkscbav,msdbvsdvsadvasbgfbghjhgjgcbar |
16:56.48 | MasterMachine | I hate my compuer so much. |
16:56.50 | MasterMachine | Anyway |
16:57.00 | MasterMachine | There's a Tampa in Florida |
16:57.35 | MasterMachine | Yeah it's St. Petersburge Florida |
16:57.36 | MasterMachine | HA! |
16:57.43 | MasterMachine | Cultural Theft, Murika Style! |
16:57.44 | MasterMachine | :p |
16:58.50 | ImpyDroid | Please tell me it is at least classy and European like the real thing |
16:59.13 | MasterMachine | Uh... |
16:59.16 | MasterMachine | This is Florida. |
16:59.31 | MasterMachine | The whole concept of 'class' passed them by. |
17:00.23 | MasterMachine | The only good thing to come from Florida was Disney Land. |
17:01.41 | MasterMachine | In fact, I think that's the place with that guy so lazy he won't go to a shooting range 20 minutes from his house, so he built one in his backyard |
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17:02.00 | MasterMachine | Using a truck and car as the walls and right next to one of the busiest canals in Florida. |
17:02.00 | Technobliterator | hii |
17:02.03 | MasterMachine | Hey |
17:02.20 | MasterMachine | -smells the air- Ah, Florida! lol |
17:02.27 | Wormy_away | New quantum weirdness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA8wj8UAaEw |
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17:02.41 | Technobliterator | ok this seems to work |
17:02.44 | MasterMachine | I've stopped opening videos you post wormy. |
17:03.11 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: Give me a metal that Alfgund's morningstar would be made of, keeping in mind that he's capable of incredible strength and is a geomancer, and if that morningstar could have any abilities of its own |
17:03.12 | Wormy | It is SCIENCE this time |
17:03.22 | Wormy | But none-thless mindfuckery |
17:03.56 | MasterMachine | -mutters about wormy's "science"- |
17:04.49 | MasterMachine | ffs |
17:04.57 | MasterMachine | Entanglement that is screwed with y sound. |
17:05.01 | MasterMachine | The f*ck science. |
17:05.05 | MasterMachine | Use logic! lol |
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17:05.30 | Hachiman | AndroImpy: Give me a metal that Alfgund's morningstar would be made of, keeping in mind that he's capable of incredible strength and is a geomancer, and if that morningstar could have any abilities of its own |
17:05.31 | Hachiman | And hai |
17:05.59 | MasterMachine | AndroImpy, did you miss my comments on florida? |
17:06.11 | Wormy | Master I understood none of that :P |
17:06.18 | MasterMachine | lol |
17:06.31 | MasterMachine | None of what I said or none of the video? |
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17:08.27 | Wormy | "Entanglement that is screwed with y sound." - wot |
17:08.40 | Wormy | "The f*ck science." - wot |
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17:09.20 | Monet | Hello |
17:09.25 | MasterMachine | hey |
17:09.42 | Technobliterator | seems better |
17:09.59 | MasterMachine | Wormy: The video started out by stated that Quantum Entanglement deteriorates in the precense of sound, right? |
17:10.09 | MasterMachine | My response was "Damnit science, make sense!" |
17:10.11 | MasterMachine | :P |
17:10.33 | MasterMachine | God I cannot spell today |
17:10.48 | AndroImpy | Hachiman: Adamant |
17:10.55 | AndroImpy | Or perhaps cold iron |
17:11.01 | Hachiman | Cold iron works |
17:11.22 | Wormy | It means noise in the sense of disturbance by other systems |
17:12.28 | MasterMachine | Oh |
17:12.29 | MasterMachine | Hur |
17:12.39 | MasterMachine | That makes a lot more sense. |
17:12.59 | MasterMachine | Why can't science just say "pretty much everything screws with this" -_- |
17:13.38 | Monet | Because science likes being precise |
17:13.41 | Hachiman | There's knowing about something and then there's understanding something |
17:13.59 | MasterMachine | ... |
17:14.04 | Hachiman | You can know what something does without understanding why and how it does what it does |
17:14.11 | MasterMachine | Yeah |
17:14.30 | Hachiman | Science likes to deal with the how's and why's :p |
17:14.34 | MasterMachine | I know lol |
17:14.42 | Wormy | Master: This explains entanglement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_WHIXBRfM |
17:14.52 | MasterMachine | But they could use easier to understand language OR explain the language in question |
17:15.02 | Wormy | Its not your fault the video didn't inform you what entanglement is |
17:15.05 | MasterMachine | I get easily confused by words, so the clearer the better for me lol |
17:15.51 | MasterMachine | The advertizement for the video was longer than the video... Nice work, Youtube. |
17:16.14 | Cyrannian | I might rename the "Cyrannia Cluster" to the "Cyrandia Cluster". Makes more sense. |
17:18.31 | AndroImpy | MasterMachine: That is professional jargon, not only scientists have one |
17:18.34 | MasterMachine | I just wanna say this about entanglement and humans: Why the hell do we have the audacity to think that time matters on that miniscule a scale? |
17:19.18 | MasterMachine | And why do we assume that the universe has to follow one set of rules or the other? Why can't it switch between them at will? |
17:19.20 | Wormy | That's the point of science, we don't know if it does or not, so one can find out. |
17:19.34 | MasterMachine | heh |
17:20.01 | MasterMachine | -finds out that all the laws humans ever thought up are complete bullshit and the universe just like screwing with us- |
17:20.02 | MasterMachine | :P |
17:20.13 | Wormy | It seems that time isn't how we perceive it to be, indeed, Relativity concludes it doesn't flow at all. |
17:20.24 | MasterMachine | Isn't time just movement? |
17:20.44 | MasterMachine | Well, movement in relation to other movement. |
17:20.52 | Wormy | Not if there is no change and universe is a static block of 4D spacetime globally. |
17:21.22 | Monet | Humans are 3D beings that can only percieve time when it is measured. |
17:21.22 | MasterMachine | Ok so you lost at at "and" |
17:21.23 | MasterMachine | lol |
17:21.29 | MasterMachine | Fair enough |
17:21.30 | Wormy | It could be that each moment is a universe, and from each moment, we measure the past and have an illusion of any movement at all. |
17:21.44 | MasterMachine | ... |
17:22.05 | MasterMachine | That actually makes sense. |
17:22.10 | Wormy | In fact the Wheeler DeWitt equation ends up with a frozen universe |
17:22.28 | Hachiman | We're heading into Schroedinger territory here |
17:22.34 | MasterMachine | lol |
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17:23.17 | MasterMachine | Personally I think that Schroedinger is a more likely theory than most, since technically the universe doesn't exist beyond what we can percieve. |
17:23.19 | drom | Oi |
17:23.24 | MasterMachine | At least, theorectically |
17:23.27 | MasterMachine | Hi drom |
17:23.32 | MasterMachine | We're talking about SCIENCE |
17:23.33 | MasterMachine | lol |
17:23.33 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10428708_769653476430787_2611869893401655117_n.jpg?oh=ee0ffbcd57cc10756776b4e19fb6868e&oe=54CA96F6&__gda__=1419702343_ece6e68f8a9dbda5660710fb3632a64d |
17:23.35 | drom | It's Sweden's general parlament elections today. |
17:23.43 | drom | Everyone is shitposting in FP right now. |
17:23.50 | MasterMachine | lol hachi |
17:23.55 | MasterMachine | and lol drom |
17:24.04 | drom | Fuck parlamential democracy, I want to move to Schweiz. |
17:24.38 | Wormy | MasterMachine: That's pretty much solipsism |
17:25.02 | MasterMachine | Personally I think that A Constatutional Monarchy is the most effective form of government - assuming both the democratic and dictatorial aspects have power. |
17:25.23 | Hachiman | If that's the case then it's not a monarchy then :p |
17:25.45 | Monet | Its both a monarchy and a democracy |
17:25.49 | MasterMachine | Yeah |
17:25.52 | Wormy | Its true that we don't perceive the objective world, that's why physics is counter-in |
17:25.58 | Wormy | intuitive |
17:26.03 | drom | I think democracy is the most powerfullest form of politics if you allow the population to determinate to make their own country's future. |
17:26.24 | MasterMachine | When shit needs to get done quickly, the king/queen can get that shit done. When it's okay to dawdle you can use democracy |
17:26.31 | drom | But with parlaments and politicans, it's more like a war. |
17:26.33 | Hachiman | The population often doesn't know what it wants though |
17:26.46 | MasterMachine | the issue with the US is that we take so f*cking long to do anything because no one can agree on even the tiniest topic -_- |
17:26.52 | Monet | Hachiman does have a point there |
17:27.07 | MasterMachine | Would be simpler to divide the US into "Republican US and DEMOCRATIC US" |
17:27.09 | MasterMachine | ... |
17:27.10 | drom | That's why The Swiss democracy works. |
17:27.15 | MasterMachine | Caps lock hur |
17:27.17 | Monet | I never have a solid answer when asked on the spot what I would like for lunch. |
17:27.29 | MasterMachine | "Food" |
17:27.30 | MasterMachine | :p |
17:27.34 | Hachiman | There are far too many opinions being flung about and the population often knows jack shit about how to run a country properly |
17:27.53 | MasterMachine | by that argument, dictatorship is the way to go |
17:27.54 | Hachiman | Which is why this Scottish independence deal can go terribly wrong |
17:29.10 | Hachiman | If you hand political power to the population and keep politicians as simply representatives of the public interest, then it's likely the public will drop the ball because they're often politically uninformed and they're not a singular entity; they're a mass of different cultures, experiences, ideals and opinions |
17:29.26 | drom | You just need some coverage and experts on state politics. Plus debates and rights for people to specatate politcal conventions. And then people will know what they will have to do or determinate. |
17:29.28 | MasterMachine | FUCKING BULLSHIT COMPUTER HANDLE A FUCKING YOUTUBE VIDEO |
17:29.30 | MasterMachine | sorry |
17:29.33 | AndroImpy | For some reason I imagine that if Scotland goes independent, there will definitely be regions that would prefer to be part of OK |
17:29.36 | AndroImpy | *UK |
17:29.36 | MasterMachine | that was capsed by accident lo |
17:30.34 | Monet | Hachiman: I think that's what happened with the Alternative Vote sustem a while back |
17:30.56 | drom | Capitalism is a terrifingly bad idea. |
17:31.01 | MasterMachine | Hachiman: That's why I don't want to think of what rRepublicans would do if they ended up in power... a more uniformed and stupid group has never been seen. |
17:31.37 | Monet | A lot of the "no" group were saying stuff like "under AV the guy in 5th place can be seclared the winer" |
17:31.52 | MasterMachine | Hur |
17:31.52 | Monet | declared* |
17:32.02 | Wormy | Democracy is good for the creation of new ideas, but without a strong ability to criticise ideas, and to criticise methods of criticism (yes, THAT meta), then will of the majority can still force obedience to a bad idea |
17:32.15 | MasterMachine | Wooh! I'd finally win something :P |
17:32.25 | Wormy | That is people's fault though |
17:32.30 | MasterMachine | Yeah |
17:32.34 | MasterMachine | Humans are stupid -__ |
17:32.36 | MasterMachine | -_- |
17:32.46 | MasterMachine | -bows down to the ant overlords- |
17:32.52 | Knight_Alien | WHy? :{ |
17:33.03 | Wormy | Well, it does work sometimes, just not infallibly because no-one is infallible |
17:33.04 | Knight_Alien | Ant overlords XD |
17:33.04 | MasterMachine | Why what? |
17:33.24 | Hachiman | >Supports ants and not actually intelligent dolphins |
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17:33.35 | MasterMachine | Ants are far better at getting shut done than humans are really. |
17:33.43 | Wormy | Think about it, there is always errors in our judgements, so a good stance on error correction is needed |
17:33.49 | Knight_Alien | They are a hive mind. |
17:33.55 | MasterMachine | If we took a page out of their book and stopped arguing all the f*cking time we'd be able to solve all our issues. |
17:33.59 | Knight_Alien | That is all they do. |
17:34.00 | Wormy | But ants are stupid at the ant level |
17:34.10 | Wormy | They are not people. |
17:34.11 | drom | Humans have free minds. That's why there's alot of political collisons. |
17:34.14 | AndroImpy | Nu, dolphins suck |
17:34.17 | Monet | If we stop arguing then conformity can set in |
17:34.18 | MasterMachine | Stupid free minds xD |
17:34.24 | MasterMachine | Hmmm |
17:34.30 | MasterMachine | What about meercats than? |
17:34.36 | Hachiman | AndroImpy: hao bout u shup and suk dolphin dong |
17:34.40 | drom | Meercats? |
17:34.44 | MasterMachine | They are each individual organisms which work toggether fairly well to survive. |
17:34.49 | Monet | And conformity can prevent bad ideas fro mbeing filtered out |
17:34.59 | drom | Hachiman: Stay there and get eaten by an orcha. |
17:35.05 | Hachiman | Machine you can say the same thing for any pack-oriented species |
17:35.07 | MasterMachine | In a manner similar to bees, only the "king" and "queen" reproduce, but the rest of the group work to support them anyway |
17:35.33 | MasterMachine | They are among the most group-based species on earth |
17:35.49 | Hachiman | So are wolves, lions, dolphins, humans, etc |
17:35.56 | Monet | Colonies tend to risk dying without a king or queen |
17:35.58 | drom | And they seems to never complain about it, compared to us, humans. |
17:36.03 | MasterMachine | lol |
17:36.06 | drom | seem* |
17:36.22 | MasterMachine | I stand by my earlier statement, Humans are stupid. |
17:36.28 | drom | It's probably solely because we can't understand their buzz. |
17:37.00 | Monet | Define "stupid" though |
17:37.04 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:37.07 | Wormy | I prefer the word "fallible" |
17:37.08 | Monet | How do we measure stupid? |
17:37.16 | Hachiman | Also I've never seen any animal species nail their god to a stick and left him there to die so nobody's quite as epic as humans hur |
17:37.21 | DrodoEmpire | Last time I checked we're the ones with agriculture and advanced technology... :P |
17:37.25 | MasterMachine | We've got inteligence. What we lack is the ability to work together for the good of the species rather than the individual. |
17:37.27 | Knight_Alien | Humans are not even close to stupidity. |
17:37.45 | Monet | Hachiman: I've read of chimps climbing to the tops of trees and waving branches i nthe air during a thunderstorm |
17:37.48 | Wormy | You could eyes like the hubble telescope and a brain as logical as a computer and there will still be error. |
17:37.58 | drom | Humans are so fraigle in politics. |
17:38.05 | MasterMachine | After all, it doesn't matter how many farms or cities we make if we wipe ourselves out with war. |
17:38.17 | drom | fragile* |
17:38.45 | Hachiman | >Implying war is a bad thing and doesn't lead to technological and cultural progress |
17:38.48 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:38.58 | DrodoEmpire | It is a terrible thing but it has a lot of benefits |
17:39.00 | Monet | Mastermachine: n any crisis or disaster there are always survivors |
17:39.03 | DrodoEmpire | Potentially |
17:39.21 | drom | If humans shared the same intellectual sense, I don't think that political collisions and shitting would been a thing. |
17:39.23 | Hachiman | War also helps economically as well as it creates jobs |
17:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | From what I can tell MM you're calling us "stupid" for not being perfect or a hivemind. :P |
17:39.31 | MasterMachine | Monet: Except that humans are very capable of creating so many disasters at once that it is impossible for humans to survive as a species |
17:39.40 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty flimsy |
17:39.55 | Wormy | We clearly don't lack the ability, because we can create methods of creating new knowledge (not just scientific, but also moral and political), no other species does at the rate we can. |
17:39.59 | MasterMachine | lol |
17:40.25 | Hachiman | MasterMachine: >Implying humans haven't been the most dominant species on Earth for the last 200 thousand years |
17:40.35 | Wormy | drom: Such a society might remain static however |
17:40.40 | MasterMachine | Isn't closer to like 20,000 years? |
17:40.47 | Hachiman | Whatever hur |
17:40.50 | MasterMachine | lol |
17:40.52 | Hachiman | Point still stands |
17:40.53 | DrodoEmpire | Either way. |
17:40.54 | drom | Homo Sapiens. |
17:40.56 | Monet | No, the genus homo is over 200,000 years old. |
17:41.11 | drom | We are talking about us, Sapiens. Not the whole genus. |
17:41.13 | MasterMachine | Yeah but we haven't been dominant that long |
17:41.14 | Monet | Possibly a millino years old... |
17:41.29 | Wormy | With ancestors going back 5 to 10 million years at least |
17:41.33 | MasterMachine | We were still dinner for big predators - still are in many places of the world for that matter. |
17:41.39 | Wormy | of humanoids |
17:42.07 | Monet | On a geological scale, we're pretty insignificant. On a cosmological scale even the dinosaurs were only dominant for only a small amount of time |
17:42.39 | Hachiman | The dinosaurs were around much longer than us and never accomplished agriculture, farming, tool-building, etc |
17:42.54 | drom | So we can have a conclusion of the humanity combined with politics? |
17:43.02 | Hachiman | We've been around 20,000 years and we've already shot ourselves into space |
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17:43.15 | Hachiman | hai |
17:43.18 | drom | hai |
17:43.25 | OluapPlayer | hi |
17:43.32 | Monet | I don't like rating human significance on a geological or cosmological timescale. I find it rather pessimistic. |
17:43.43 | Wormy | Animal life only started evolving 580 megayears ago. |
17:44.11 | Wormy | Life has been on Earth for 3.5 to 4 billion years |
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17:45.18 | Monet | Humans have very powerful and complex brains. |
17:45.34 | MasterMachine_ | So did Neanderthall |
17:45.39 | DrodoEmpire | So? |
17:45.39 | Monet | The dinosaurs may have lived longer but their brains, in a way, were simple. |
17:45.46 | MasterMachine_ | So? |
17:45.50 | Wormy | "I don't like rating human significance on a geological or cosmological timescale. I find it rather pessimistic." I agree cuz http://www.daviddeutsch.org.uk/2004/02/depressed-by-the-size-of-the-universe-bah-humbug/ |
17:45.53 | MasterMachine_ | Isn't the purpose of life to live longer? |
17:46.32 | Hachiman | True, intelligence isn't the goal of evolution |
17:46.38 | Hachiman | But intelligence helps a lot |
17:46.47 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:46.55 | MasterMachine | Unless you create WoMD and wipe yourself out. |
17:46.57 | drom | I still stand on the point of direct democracy a powerful political ideology when the people know what their country need with the help of experts. |
17:46.57 | drom | Purpose of life? |
17:46.57 | drom | Why do we die when our purpose is to live? |
17:47.01 | MasterMachine | That could hurt your chances a little xD |
17:47.24 | AndroImpy | Evolution has no purpose |
17:47.33 | Wormy | Life seems to have powerfully effected Earth's physical conditions. Maybe intelligent life or beyond in the future will modify the universe in the same way. What is not denied by the laws of physics, and in the universe's long future, I imagine things will get more interesting. |
17:47.42 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Biological processes start to degrade overtime. :P No philosophy needed. |
17:47.43 | AndroImpy | MasterMachine: Life's purpose is to make more of it, basically |
17:47.51 | drom | Life in this universe feels more like an act of bullshit created by the physical laws. |
17:48.21 | AndroImpy | Long live (so that more offspring could be produced) is one path but breeding like rabbits while having short lives is too |
17:48.25 | drom | When death exists. |
17:49.42 | Wormy | Modern Darwinian theory is more based on the evolution of replicators, or selfish genes. |
17:50.12 | Wormy | The Peacock's tail is selected by sexual selection, but its actually a great disadvantage |
17:50.22 | Monet | Life is all about survial to make more of life. |
17:50.30 | Wormy | Indeed natural and sexual selection can extinct species |
17:50.48 | AndroImpy | Because peacocks with big tails are more easily recognised by females, thus the genes stick |
17:51.01 | Wormy | I think at the replicator level, there is no higher meaning at all. |
17:51.06 | AndroImpy | I wonder if blue and green eyes and light hair in humans developed the same way |
17:51.10 | drom | If Oxygen is poisonous, why didn't we evolve a different method of metabolism so we could live more or less longer? |
17:51.24 | Wormy | Maybe on more emergent levels meaning arises |
17:52.12 | AndroImpy | Women have more unusual appearance -> Men fuck dem |
17:52.13 | Wormy | Like ourselves, I believe the human quest for meaning is valid |
17:52.16 | AndroImpy | Hey this logic works |
17:52.43 | AndroImpy | *Women have more unusual looks |
17:53.19 | Wormy | The old idea "survival of the fittest" just isn't true when you look at these examples. Replicators aren't trying to make species more fit. |
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17:54.28 | Wormy | the "good of the species" is a myth |
17:55.11 | MasterMachine | Well |
17:55.15 | MasterMachine | On a somewhat related note |
17:55.38 | MasterMachine | I think that evolution to a point works, but after a period of time the continued evolution can actually be detrimental to a species |
17:56.03 | Hachiman | Well evolution isn't always a beneficial progress |
17:56.10 | MasterMachine | For example, human inteligence was great when we were tribal, but now we've gotten to the point where that same inteligence could cause our extinction |
17:56.12 | Hachiman | It's just a term that means "change" |
17:56.15 | MasterMachine | Yeah I know |
17:56.19 | drom | Gotta go. |
17:56.35 | MasterMachine | Oh, fun fact, Sharks are older than trees. |
17:56.38 | Knight_Alien | Master how was it great? |
17:56.39 | Monet | I think anything that is capable of rational thought is capable of making mistakes. |
17:56.53 | Monet | Anything. |
17:57.06 | Wormy | Yes |
17:57.08 | Hachiman | And anything capable of making mistakes is also capable of making up for them as well |
17:57.32 | Wormy | Indeed |
17:57.34 | MasterMachine | Knight_Alien: from a survival persepctive the tribal-level of technology was optimal because we didn't use more resources than we had but we were smarter than other creatues and had that advantage. |
17:57.34 | Monet | Its a two-way street |
17:57.41 | MasterMachine | Isn't everything? |
17:58.01 | Wormy | But most other lifeforms are not capable of even changing their behaviour. |
17:58.09 | Hachiman | Yes, we may have built WMDs, but we're also using that same potential for destruction to build a path to the stars and other worlds |
17:58.15 | MasterMachine | Yep |
17:58.32 | MasterMachine | At this point it's really a race between our aggression and our progress |
17:58.40 | Knight_Alien | WHat other perspectives do you have besides survival? |
17:59.06 | Monet | Give any animal the capacity for rational thought I'm pretty sure they will both make grave mistakes and great feats. For one that's how learning owrks; adapting to and understanding mistakes. |
17:59.10 | MasterMachine | You have the standard of living perspective, the religious persepctive, and the technological persepctive. |
17:59.19 | Wormy | It would be incredibly pessimistic, even fearful, to reject change just because it would unveil new threats, even if one lives a sustainable life. Look at what happened to the Easter Islanders |
17:59.21 | MasterMachine | And probably more I forgot. |
17:59.45 | Knight_Alien | Religous wise it was compelete chaos. |
17:59.50 | MasterMachine | They did what we're doing now. |
18:00.10 | MasterMachine | KA - I mean like, many religions do not like progress due to conflict with their beliefs. |
18:00.49 | Monet | A lot of the time the conflict with change threatened the ocntrol the clergy had over their followers |
18:01.07 | Knight_Alien | That is true monet. |
18:01.08 | Wormy | Its not necessarily a rejection of progress, but a taboo about creating new ideas or criticising authoritary. |
18:01.43 | MasterMachine | Fair enough. |
18:01.53 | Knight_Alien | And Technology wise? |
18:02.09 | Wormy | It stamps out change and tries to sustain a way of life. Its basically whats called a static society meme which over-rides our critical faculties. Many cultures were stagnated by this. |
18:02.11 | MasterMachine | As for technological, thats basically "Doesn't matter what happens to earth or humans, if we make a better computer" |
18:02.39 | Wormy | Well, to build technology, you are forced to reach for new ideas and criticise what you are doing. |
18:02.42 | Knight_Alien | Not really. |
18:02.54 | Knight_Alien | They care about Humans. |
18:03.19 | MasterMachine | From a solely technological perspective humans are just the tool to make better tech |
18:04.04 | Wormy | Or is tech just an "out-sourced" extension to build a better human? |
18:04.15 | Wormy | Probably neither :P |
18:04.21 | MasterMachine | I personally expect humans to develop into more cyborganic/entirely mechanical beings, once we figure out how to download our brain into computers |
18:04.22 | Knight_Alien | Why build a better human. |
18:04.46 | MasterMachine | KA: To live longer, to have less illness, to be more adaptable to different environs... |
18:04.52 | Wormy | Not necessarily by intention, but as a natural consequence of using tools. |
18:05.01 | MasterMachine | That too |
18:05.17 | Knight_Alien | Yes those make sense but isn't that very selfish if you think about it. |
18:05.19 | Monet | MasterMachine: Maybe, Although I read somewhere that there might be deep-set discomfort in having a virtual body. |
18:05.30 | Wormy | By using mobile phones you can communicate in a way no biological adaption could find |
18:05.43 | MasterMachine | Monet: Not a virtual one, a mechanical one. |
18:06.19 | Wormy | I don't get how its selfish to improve one's l;ife against the inhospitable nature of nature. |
18:06.28 | Knight_Alien | To give up your own Humanity for a machine... |
18:06.43 | MasterMachine | KA, that depends on if you think "humanity" is the body or the mind. |
18:06.52 | Knight_Alien | Illness I can agree on though. |
18:06.57 | Wormy | For most of the year, if I was locked out my house and couldn't find shelter I'd die of cold. |
18:07.12 | Monet | Yeah its possible that by genetically altering ourselves we become less "human" by this logic |
18:07.16 | MasterMachine | As well as if you think the 'soul' exists in only the human body or if it follows the mind to wherever the mind goes. |
18:07.23 | Wormy | The British climate would kill me because I'm not adapted to it |
18:07.28 | MasterMachine | Hur |
18:07.30 | MasterMachine | Same here |
18:07.38 | MasterMachine | Philly is not hostibable to humans |
18:07.44 | MasterMachine | #TooMuchF*ckingSnow |
18:08.18 | Wormy | In that sense, a house is quite an amazing thing, a human build environment |
18:08.30 | Wormy | Obvious but deep when you think about it |
18:08.35 | MasterMachine | cities too |
18:08.39 | Knight_Alien | My point is why gibe your Humanity up to a machine you show signs of weakness to have to depend on a machine and your Betray your Religion if you believe in one. |
18:08.45 | Knight_Alien | *Give* |
18:08.53 | MasterMachine | KA... |
18:08.58 | Knight_Alien | But this is not about Religion. |
18:09.06 | MasterMachine | We aren't giving ourselves to machines. We are becomng machines |
18:09.15 | Wormy | I wouldn't worry about betrayal of all things. |
18:09.26 | MasterMachine | We retain our free will, but we gain the power of a machine |
18:09.47 | MasterMachine | Think of it as having a car and a computer built into you for ease of access |
18:10.05 | Knight_Alien | I wish not to be a machine. |
18:10.29 | Knight_Alien | A Cold , emotionless and possiblly hive mind. |
18:10.36 | MasterMachine | ... |
18:10.40 | Wormy | My life depends on a very fallible biological machine that could fail at any time. |
18:10.46 | MasterMachine | I hate how people think of machines are cold and emotionless |
18:11.02 | Knight_Alien | If you make them EMotionless and cold. |
18:11.08 | MasterMachine | Hollywood ruined AI |
18:11.11 | Knight_Alien | You don't have to. |
18:11.13 | Wormy | If I was dying, I think in the spirit of medicine, I'd like to have machine parts |
18:11.20 | MasterMachine | Agreed lol |
18:11.30 | Monet | I agree with MM here |
18:11.39 | Knight_Alien | We that is your choice. |
18:11.39 | Wormy | As do I |
18:11.40 | MasterMachine | I wouldn't mind being downloaded into a computer so long as I retained my ability to feel emotions |
18:11.52 | Monet | Thanks to Hollywood, there's this image of robots being destined to be cold, emotionless, uncaring and homicidal at the earliest opportunity |
18:11.58 | MasterMachine | Now, if couldn't get pissy when my favorite anime is canceled, that would piss me off xD |
18:12.10 | Wormy | Its pessimism really |
18:12.18 | MasterMachine | Now, heres a thought, technically humans are just biological machines |
18:12.28 | Wormy | We can't know that AI would be evil, its no reason not to explore AI |
18:12.41 | Knight_Alien | I don't think robots are evil or cold. |
18:12.43 | MasterMachine | Life itself operates just like machines do, but happens to be made of 'softer' stuff. |
18:12.47 | Knight_Alien | You make them that way. |
18:12.54 | MasterMachine | You *can* make them that way. |
18:12.55 | Knight_Alien | Or you make them love and feel. |
18:13.05 | MasterMachine | I like the idea of machines like Watson |
18:13.10 | Hachiman | I myself like to believe that the mind is human and you can have machines that know and understand affection and expression |
18:13.18 | MasterMachine | Yes |
18:13.20 | Hachiman | Like the Gravital from All Tomorrows |
18:13.24 | Wormy | But if they are truly conscious, thinking beings, they might have their own ideas about things. |
18:13.28 | MasterMachine | Machines can feel emotion. Like the kid from AI. |
18:13.31 | AndroImpy | I think giving advanced AIs emotions would be sensible |
18:13.58 | MasterMachine | It would give them empathy for the human condition and acceptance of our occassional mistakes. |
18:14.00 | Knight_Alien | I love the idea of giving Ai life and emotion but I would never wish to be one. |
18:14.13 | Wormy | AI's might not be built anyway, they might evolve. |
18:14.15 | MasterMachine | But it could ALSO result in fear of human power and a powerful drive to survive. |
18:14.16 | Monet | Emotions are what puts us a step above calculators and difference engines. |
18:14.19 | AndroImpy | Hmm. |
18:14.35 | AndroImpy | If you give a robot the ability to love, you could also give it... hm... |
18:14.37 | MasterMachine | Wormy, I've always believed that there is already fully functional AI in the wodl. |
18:14.41 | MasterMachine | *world |
18:14.42 | MasterMachine | lol |
18:14.56 | Hachiman | AndroImpy: Are you implying an AI with a Kalcedia-level sex drive |
18:15.10 | Knight_Alien | He is -_- |
18:15.19 | AndroImpy | ...minus the "Kalcedia-level" bit |
18:15.26 | Wormy | There might be one we are not aware of yet. I mean if the internet evolved consciousness, it wouldn't know about us straight away, it would live in internet land |
18:15.30 | MasterMachine | The internet is made up of literally millions of computers with power far greater than a human brain, I think it's almost illogical to think that there is no AI in there, hiding from us. |
18:15.45 | MasterMachine | We'd be just another input to it |
18:15.52 | Monet | Take the film Irobot: It is mentioned that the main character hates robots because he saw one save him and not the 6 year old girl he saw in th next car over because the robot rated him as having a higher chance of survival purely on observatio and not something like "that's a child drowning" |
18:16.05 | Wormy | Have you heard of the Invisible Hand of the Market? |
18:16.10 | MasterMachine | Yeah |
18:16.17 | MasterMachine | Isn't that a theoretical AI |
18:16.27 | Wormy | Could be an 3economical swarm intelligence |
18:16.29 | MasterMachine | that exists as an AI created by human will? |
18:16.59 | Wormy | It evolved itself |
18:17.17 | Wormy | Well, OA created a story out of it, but its a real idea http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4c19732e6203d |
18:17.42 | MasterMachine | Now, this is gonna sound VERY strange, but compare a human to the planet. Whats stopping the planet itself, life & inanimate objects, from being a single organism with a mind we can't even comprehend or detect? |
18:18.11 | MasterMachine | Or for that matter, the galaxy - a mind made up of stars and the gravitational pulls between them. |
18:18.17 | MasterMachine | I need to create that in SPorewiki... |
18:18.18 | MasterMachine | lol |
18:18.31 | Monet | Rocks aren't really designed to compute stuff |
18:18.41 | MasterMachine | -points at the mantal- |
18:18.54 | Wormy | Its possible, in fact, the idea is called Gaia. But while I'm sceptical the Earth is a superorganism, its true life can cause positive feedback loops and has changed its chemical and physical properties. |
18:19.17 | MasterMachine | Rocks moving around can be use to compute stuff, magma could sustain a mind through movement of information in the form of mineral deposites |
18:19.40 | MasterMachine | I admit its outlandish |
18:19.50 | Monet | Yeah its rather alie nto how the brain works |
18:19.58 | Wormy | I doubt the Earth would be organised into anything like a human built machine though. But it is a complex and organised object. |
18:19.58 | Monet | or any known living brain |
18:20.05 | MasterMachine | But I think it's stupid of humans to say that just because its different means it can't exist. |
18:20.20 | Wormy | Yes |
18:20.20 | MasterMachine | Monet: the reason we wouldn't notice it is BECAUSE it's so alien to us |
18:20.23 | MasterMachine | True Alien Life. |
18:20.35 | MasterMachine | To the point we cannot commune or interact with it directly |
18:20.35 | Wormy | or stupid of some humans |
18:21.10 | MasterMachine | I once had a talk with my mom about a machine species that can do literally everything humans can, would it be 'alive'? |
18:21.16 | MasterMachine | She said no becausde it's a machine. |
18:21.20 | Monet | Doesn't Gaia Theory vary between "The earth is a living thinking thing" and "Earth is a complex network of systems"? |
18:21.30 | MasterMachine | Yeah |
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18:21.37 | GD12 | Hello |
18:21.40 | GD12 | Wow lots of people |
18:21.40 | Monet | Hello |
18:21.41 | Wormy | Either life or a similarly highly emergent system |
18:21.43 | MasterMachine | But what is the human body but a bunch of systems in a network? |
18:21.45 | Wormy | Hi.3 |
18:21.53 | MasterMachine | Hi GD |
18:21.55 | GD12 | Monet : Incredible work on the Alcanti Triad image |
18:22.05 | Wormy | It does Monet |
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18:22.48 | Monet | If the mantle is a planet-scale cortex, I take it these magma and mineral currents need to cmpmpare to electrical currents though axons and synapses? |
18:22.53 | Wormy | We are having an AI/epistemology/optimism vs. pessisism/future of humanity discussion |
18:23.14 | Monet | GD12: Thanks. I'm glad it's been so highly recieved. |
18:24.06 | Wormy | I doubt very much the Earth's processes work like the human brain, for yes, if those phenomena could abstract what neurons do, it could think over geological timescales. |
18:24.29 | GD12 | hmm |
18:24.43 | Wormy | As Master said, you could build a computer out of Billiard Balls if you wanted to. |
18:25.05 | Knight_Alien | You wish to join our discussion GD12? |
18:25.08 | GD12 | Sure |
18:25.28 | GD12 | I intend to get a doctorate in COmputer Science (i'm just a cs undergrad now) so I'm interested |
18:25.38 | Knight_Alien | Well they are talking about what is alive and what is not at the moment. |
18:25.44 | GD12 | You can build a computer if you figure out how to get a high/low 1/0 state |
18:25.47 | MasterMachine | So I just decided to make a list of possible concept-thinking beings... here's the first one: |
18:25.48 | MasterMachine | â¢Gravity Mind â Created by the gravitational interactions between stars, planets, and pretty much everything else in a galaxy, this mind functions on a scale that most species cannot even perceive. As a mind that doesnât have the ability to commune with anything not functioning on a galactic scale or using gravity as a communication method, this being is always seeking out different thinking life forms by creating â |
18:25.56 | MasterMachine | natural rules of the universe. |
18:26.15 | Knight_Alien | But we were discussing Robotics inside humans or even us becoming Robotics. |
18:26.25 | MasterMachine | KA, you'll get used to this. |
18:26.27 | GD12 | brb |
18:26.34 | Knight_Alien | Used to what? |
18:26.48 | MasterMachine | I remember once we started with something like cats v/s dogs and ended up talking about quantum physics |
18:27.20 | Knight_Alien | Cats...:} |
18:27.31 | Knight_Alien | Also I see your point. |
18:27.35 | MasterMachine | The topic always shifts and varies over time. btw, Dogs are better because they don't scratch you xD |
18:27.48 | Knight_Alien | My cat luvs me. |
18:27.57 | Wormy | Its time we stuck Schroedinger in his experiment |
18:28.03 | Knight_Alien | SHe would never eat me like she does to her prey. |
18:28.05 | Monet | It loves ou as the bringer of food Alien |
18:28.15 | MasterMachine | lol |
18:28.16 | Wormy | too much cat murder in the physics community. |
18:28.32 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
18:28.32 | MasterMachine | Dog: You are my god! | Cat: I am your god! |
18:28.41 | Knight_Alien | No It luvs me. |
18:28.45 | Monet | Was Ivan Pavlov any better for brainwashing his dog? |
18:28.46 | Knight_Alien | I am sure of it. |
18:28.52 | MasterMachine | xD |
18:29.08 | MasterMachine | (not luling at anyone, just at the tun in theconvo) |
18:29.45 | Knight_Alien | Dogs can steal my food and come back a minute later whanting a hug the smug theifs. >:{ |
18:30.31 | Knight_Alien | But I have a cat and dog and they both act different from one another. |
18:30.50 | MasterMachine | Of course they do |
18:30.52 | Wormy | They are just forgetful |
18:30.57 | MasterMachine | Dogs are pack animals, cats are loners. |
18:31.10 | Wormy | Unless KA has a lion. |
18:31.11 | MasterMachine | Dogs = Loyal forever. Cats = Loyal for the moment. |
18:31.14 | MasterMachine | lol |
18:31.18 | Knight_Alien | My cat (Star) is a independent hunter who doesn't leave of ten. |
18:31.21 | MasterMachine | KA, do you have a lion? :P |
18:31.29 | Knight_Alien | *The house* |
18:31.40 | Knight_Alien | I have a chinsese crusted. |
18:31.44 | Wormy | I wear I've seen people on the internet with pet hyenas |
18:31.57 | MasterMachine | I will admit, cats do stay loyal enough that they'll stay with you and will follow you if you abandone them |
18:31.59 | Wormy | a chinsese crusted lion? |
18:32.07 | MasterMachine | But between cats and dogs, dogs are the more loyal |
18:32.08 | Knight_Alien | No. |
18:32.37 | MasterMachine | My pit Lexi was taken in by us from a friend, when the friend visited for the first time in about 5 years she (Lexi) was overjoyed. |
18:32.44 | Knight_Alien | My Dog is a Chinsese crusted. |
18:32.55 | Knight_Alien | Not a lion. |
18:32.58 | MasterMachine | She doesnt usually jump up on people, but she did for that friend who recued her from the pound. |
18:33.09 | Wormy | I have two dogs, a whippet and a border jack (collie cross jack russel) |
18:33.41 | Knight_Alien | My Cat follows me eveywhere I go in the yard and through out the neighbor hood. |
18:33.56 | MasterMachine | Two more concepts of life, for the bored people who give a f*ck: |
18:33.58 | MasterMachine | â¢âSonicâ â A form of life that usually only lives for the briefest moments of time, Sonic Life exists as nothing more than Sound Waves, and can experience all of its evolution over the course of mere seconds. â¢Photonic â Photonic Life lives even shorter lifespans than Sonic life. Made up of the vibrations of energy that form light waves, these beings experience time on a scale so different from the rest of the |
18:34.25 | MasterMachine | (mind you these are based off of the initial idea that life is nothing but organized energy) |
18:35.15 | AndroImpy | All existence is organised energy I believe |
18:35.22 | Knight_Alien | ^[]^ have you spoken at all Mr. Birdman? |
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18:35.37 | GD12 | Are we still on the robotics discussion? |
18:35.38 | Knight_Alien | Ah your back. |
18:35.39 | ^[]^ | Not really |
18:35.46 | ^[]^ | I just like idling |
18:35.47 | ^[]^ | a lot |
18:35.52 | MasterMachine | GD, we've moved on to cats v/s dogs now. |
18:35.54 | Knight_Alien | Are you a user> |
18:35.55 | MasterMachine | lol |
18:35.58 | ^[]^ | I have 77 channels I'm joined |
18:36.00 | GD12 | Ahh I see haha |
18:36.03 | Knight_Alien | Not exactlly. |
18:36.04 | ^[]^ | I only actively participate in about 5 |
18:36.07 | AndroImpy | Where are you from? |
18:36.08 | MasterMachine | lol |
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18:36.30 | Knight_Alien | GD12 what do you think about Cybernetic implants? |
18:36.36 | Wormy | Master: Photonic life wouldn't perceive time at all. |
18:37.02 | GD12 | What about them? |
18:37.24 | Knight_Alien | Do you like it and the idea or dislike mostly. |
18:37.36 | GD12 | I quite like it |
18:37.47 | Knight_Alien | 0_0 |
18:37.54 | GD12 | I'm very interested in cybernetics huhu |
18:38.13 | Wormy | I want to be a cyborg |
18:38.14 | Knight_Alien | Looks like I am the only one against it... |
18:38.33 | GD12 | I mean having cybernetics doesn't necessarily mean looking like a servitor from 40k |
18:38.43 | Knight_Alien | I know. |
18:38.46 | GD12 | A lot of it could be internal stuff that enhances your functionality while not altering how you look |
18:38.49 | Wormy | Who knows though, maybe future cyborgs will look human like the rest of us because its biotechnology and nanotech |
18:39.16 | Knight_Alien | I like Robotics and Robots but Cybernetic implants are not my way. |
18:39.20 | GD12 | It could also be noninvasive stuff like wearable computing |
18:39.22 | Wormy | I think we already are cyborgs when we play with smart phones and talk on IRC :P |
18:39.26 | GD12 | Which you could take off any time you wanted |
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18:39.48 | Monet | These days the craze is technolgoy that's smooth ,sleek and minimal |
18:39.50 | GD12 | Hello there |
18:40.01 | Wormy | GD: Have you seen Brazil? |
18:40.24 | Knight_Alien | I am talking about Implants. |
18:40.24 | GD12 | Wormy : No sadly |
18:40.27 | MasterMachine | Wormy: Oh cool. I'll just make that alteration... |
18:40.33 | Monet | So it spossible that, practices willing, we'd end up with Bicentennial Man-like cyborgs rather than 40k servitors |
18:40.41 | Knight_Alien | Ones that extend life , Enhance things and suhc. |
18:40.43 | GD12 | I saw Brazil versus Germany |
18:40.48 | buildkirbyus | Hey guys! Can you tell me why my images aren't loading on my page? I'm new to wikia so that may be a problem |
18:40.51 | Knight_Alien | Germany one. |
18:41.00 | Knight_Alien | Brazil zero. |
18:41.01 | Wormy | GD: Oh well. He just directed this film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rae7_O_6EtU |
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18:41.24 | Wormy | I loved seeing that match |
18:41.29 | GD12 | Wormy : Watching now |
18:41.42 | GD12 | buildkybyus : Did you upload them first? |
18:42.27 | GD12 | Ahh looks like you did |
18:43.14 | GD12 | I think it will mostly be embedded computing where we get superhuman abilities and networking wjhile maintaining our normal external forms |
18:43.39 | Spu | Well that was all fun |
18:43.53 | Monet | Hello |
18:44.29 | Knight_Alien | I dislike the idea of Impants, Like enhancing sight for example. |
18:44.36 | Knight_Alien | *Implants* |
18:45.43 | GD12 | buildkirbyus : I edited this page so it displays your stuf correctly nwo http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Milla |
18:46.21 | buildkirbyus | i see that. Thanks! |
18:46.21 | Spu | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=314157541 |
18:46.59 | Wormy | Knight_Alien: The way I think of it, if your neurons were replaced one by one with technology, but slowly, and in a way you wouldn't notice or change your mental life, then it isn't a big leap of choice at all. Afterall, every few years most of our cells and died and were replaced. And people who are recovering from serious injury sometimes are forced to choose a new life |
18:47.34 | buildkirbyus | @GD12 i see what i was doing wrong. I copied the image link, while i was supposed to link the image name itself |
18:48.07 | Knight_Alien | Some are forced to choose a new life not all. |
18:48.22 | Wormy | Having enhancements, or increased longevity need not make any changes to the things humans do everyday, you may still enjoy the same things as you did before. |
18:48.55 | GD12 | Yeah thats it |
18:49.05 | Knight_Alien | You won't see me in the streets rioting over Implants. But I dislkie having a machine do,fix or extend somthing for me. |
18:49.41 | Wormy | But where is your cut off point? You are using a machine to talk to me now. |
18:49.45 | Knight_Alien | Some or even most like it but I am not part of that group. |
18:50.00 | Knight_Alien | My cut off point you ask? |
18:50.37 | Knight_Alien | Well having a Robotic implant in my body. |
18:50.43 | Wormy | I kind of understand, I don't agree with all of transhumanism, particularly the fictional singularity and the belief in supernatural AI knowledge |
18:51.49 | buildkirbyus | @GD12 I am still wondering what these entries mean: Intelligence (i assumed sentient), Biochemistry, and Empire Class |
18:52.25 | Wormy | And pessisism of the human mind the likes of Ray Kurzweill has |
18:52.56 | Knight_Alien | I am not anti-Machins and Robots if you are getitng that feeling. |
18:52.57 | GD12 | Intelligence is Sentience Quotient I believe |
18:53.17 | Knight_Alien | *Getting* |
18:53.28 | GD12 | Biochemistry isl ike Carbon based, silicon based etc |
18:53.37 | Monet | there os/was a page describing sentience quotent |
18:53.38 | Wormy | I'm struggling to understand why you don't like the idea of implants myself. |
18:54.12 | Knight_Alien | Why I dislike Implants you say? |
18:54.20 | Wormy | yeah |
18:55.06 | Wormy | I'm sure there are ethical concerns over superhuman cyborgs running about but to me, a cyborg doesn't necessarily mean that stereotype. |
18:55.38 | Knight_Alien | Well I don't like having to depend on a machine , some do but I don't need to. |
18:56.11 | buildkirbyus | @GD12 That makes sense, thanks. |
18:56.15 | Monet | In this day and age, wierd as it sounds ,you already do depend on machines |
18:56.31 | Knight_Alien | And machines helping my Sight and such is somthing I dislike also. |
18:57.11 | GD12 | SQ 13 is human sq iirc |
18:57.14 | Knight_Alien | I know we depend on machines Cars,Computers but my life or death is what I mean. |
18:57.26 | Wormy | I'll tell you what I like about transhumanism (I've said why I don't), its the possibility of engineering entirely new experiences, and extent the sorts of environments human can live in (like space). And possibly of seeing heat, or beaming oneself at the speed of light, or having several bodies sounds intriguing to me. |
18:57.27 | Monet | Ships, loddied and vans bring your food in, harvesting machines gather the ingredients for your food, power stations generate enrgy to keep your food in your fridge cool and your house illuminated at night |
18:58.13 | Knight_Alien | I just said Life and death is what I mean. |
18:58.25 | Wormy | Or the possibly of experiencing another one's thoughts or emotions, or building new qualia (like a new colour) |
18:58.51 | Knight_Alien | I like space and I wish to be up their and explore but a Implant so I can see somthing better I shall not get. |
18:59.03 | TekDroid | And of course things lile sight aren't life and death either. |
18:59.08 | TekDroid | *like |
18:59.30 | Wormy | What if you was blind however, and then bionic sight was mastered and you could see again? |
19:00.43 | Knight_Alien | I said some need it and that is one they need. Until I am In need of implants I will deny them. |
19:00.47 | Wormy | Implants already are used in the medical field. I know a guy who calls himself an early model of a cyborg because he was inbvolved in a motorcycle accident and had to have metal put in his legs or risk amputation. |
19:01.21 | Knight_Alien | If I was blind I would need to think it over. |
19:01.49 | Monet | So its a matter of "I don't need them now so why should I need them at all?" |
19:01.58 | Knight_Alien | But I am not and until that day comes I am agianst Implants. |
19:02.32 | Wormy | But why? |
19:02.44 | Knight_Alien | It may sound careless to think I may not need them now. |
19:02.56 | Wormy | Sorry if I'm being annoying, I just want to know. |
19:03.25 | Monet | It seems ocmmon among people to shrug something off until they need to depend on them |
19:03.26 | Knight_Alien | But until the eyes and arms and feet I am blessed with betray me Implants shall never peirce this skin. |
19:03.45 | buildkirbyus | Dang Cyrannian is away, i was just about to ask him about joining the Cyrannus Galaxy. |
19:03.51 | Knight_Alien | Wormy don't worry I am not annoyed. |
19:04.17 | Wormy | You mentioned earlier it was about betrayal of the body. So I guess its more of a personal or moral reason. |
19:04.23 | Knight_Alien | I sometimes don't understand things that people or things do and I pursue it. |
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19:05.21 | Knight_Alien | Wormy I dislike Implants because If I have eyes that work and may not even be the best why get fake ones. |
19:05.33 | Wormy | I don't like surgery, and probably wouldn't have implants unless I needed them. But I'd accept non-invasive cybernetic tech for now. |
19:06.19 | Wormy | Of course I'd have surgery for a medical reason and may accept such impants given the opportunity |
19:06.35 | Knight_Alien | Why take away a valueable object only for it to be replaced by a Implant. |
19:07.04 | Knight_Alien | Until it fails to were it dies I shall not replace it. |
19:07.22 | Hachiman | Implants would probably work better |
19:07.34 | Wormy | I'm not sure if you can rationally justify that though, but I accept that you value your eyes enough not to want them swapped. |
19:07.42 | Knight_Alien | And how long will this Implant last , it may evetually break. |
19:07.55 | Hachiman | Not all implants are mechanical you know |
19:08.08 | Wormy | Remember, even the cells in your body channge |
19:08.20 | Knight_Alien | Yea I know. |
19:08.22 | Wormy | You are not who you were 10 years ago |
19:08.30 | Hachiman | We're getting to the point where we can create biological eyes from cells that operate better than our own |
19:08.41 | Hachiman | That would effectively last longer |
19:08.55 | Knight_Alien | Yes and many would and will be pleased. |
19:09.06 | Wormy | You share a heritage, a memory and maybe personality. But then maybe personalities change... |
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19:09.22 | Spu | As long as we don't get Purity First on our cases we'll be alright |
19:09.31 | Hachiman | hur |
19:09.31 | Wormy | yeah |
19:09.31 | Spu | scuse me for a sec |
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19:09.50 | Wormy | I'd hate it if cyborgs started controlling baseline humans |
19:09.57 | MasterMachine | Hi Xho |
19:10.00 | Knight_Alien | But I value what I have been given to start with and so why add on to it. |
19:10.09 | Xho | MasterMachine: I've been here for hours |
19:10.11 | Knight_Alien | And why take away form it. |
19:10.27 | MasterMachine | Xho: Shhhh, don't ruin my dreams lol |
19:10.45 | Xho | I think I'm gonna quit drinking alcohol for good now |
19:10.56 | MasterMachine | lol |
19:11.07 | Knight_Alien | I may think rational sometimes but not everything can be explained. |
19:11.15 | Wormy | Judt think of your liver |
19:11.30 | Wormy | That puts me of drinking |
19:11.31 | Xho | Went out last night and I was a quivering half-dead wreck by the end of it |
19:11.40 | Wormy | *off |
19:11.51 | Xho | I only had four pints of beer and I was pretty much suffering from alcohol poisoning |
19:11.59 | Knight_Alien | People and things do things we can't explain. |
19:12.14 | DrodoEmpire | KA: Yet. :P |
19:12.26 | MasterMachine | KA, I believe that part of the point of life is to explain those things that cannot be explained :) |
19:12.35 | Knight_Alien | Like souls and ghoss are still being debated. |
19:12.39 | DrodoEmpire | Its also why we have the scientific method. |
19:12.51 | Xho | I think the soundtrack for a great deal of my hangover was The Ayahuasca Experience by Meshuggah |
19:12.59 | DrodoEmpire | Not really; Most of the scientific community in particular thinks its bull. :P |
19:13.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ghosts and whatnot |
19:13.24 | Knight_Alien | Ghosts are seen as fake to science? |
19:13.39 | MasterMachine | Souls can be debated, ghosts are believed to be human imagination |
19:13.39 | Monet | There's no quantifiable evidence for ghosts other than personal accounts. |
19:13.40 | DrodoEmpire | It can be explained through particularly vivid hallucinations or other anomalies. |
19:14.02 | TekDroid | Most "proof" is either anecdotes or faked evidence. |
19:14.18 | Hachiman | So I think I'm gonna go with TÄ (homo sapiens lepus) as the name for Hachi's race |
19:14.18 | MasterMachine | Souls are really just not debated by scientists because they cannot proove or dispoove their existance. |
19:14.35 | DrodoEmpire | Again, not yet. |
19:14.48 | Knight_Alien | Ghosts entertwin with souls and souls will never be proven false so ghosts shall not etheir. |
19:14.54 | MasterMachine | -develops a way to measure spirit- |
19:14.54 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose the idea of a soul isn't measurable at the moment |
19:15.09 | MasterMachine | KA, Ghosts are already proven false. |
19:15.09 | Xho | Hachiman: gud |
19:15.22 | Knight_Alien | And how is this? |
19:15.23 | MasterMachine | At least, insofar as any serious investigations have been made. |
19:15.24 | Xho | Oh god this is gonna go into a religious discussion I can feel it |
19:15.26 | DrodoEmpire | KA, you cannot say with absolute certainty that they souls can "never" be proven false; That's simply foolish. |
19:15.31 | Monet | The closest we have to the concept of the soul is consciousness. Which is still a bafflement as t owhere it came from |
19:15.33 | MasterMachine | There is ni proof of their existance. |
19:15.33 | drom | Somebody pinged me? |
19:15.34 | MasterMachine | Now |
19:15.35 | Hachiman | Since according to Imp, TÄ is Chinese for "different" and I think it's a cute name hur |
19:15.41 | MasterMachine | I need go bugger off and go to work :( |
19:15.49 | MasterMachine | -wishes science could proove work false- |
19:15.50 | MasterMachine | :P |
19:15.50 | OluapPlayer | Species: Retarded |
19:15.57 | Xho | Nu - in dat case imma just call u da kicathian word for 'dum' |
19:16.37 | Hachiman | Now I just need to figure out a history for the TÄ's origins and then I'm largely set |
19:16.58 | Knight_Alien | Well I ask you a question most think about , does your Brain cause Imagination and thoughts? |
19:17.10 | Hachiman | Knight_Alien: Yes |
19:17.16 | TekDroid | Yes. |
19:17.19 | Knight_Alien | It does now you say? |
19:17.21 | Wormy | Xho: Do you drink much beer? |
19:17.30 | Xho | I used to drink a lot of everything |
19:17.35 | Knight_Alien | And why is that? |
19:17.41 | Xho | It might be to do with my weight loss |
19:17.46 | Wormy | Four pints only get me started really. |
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19:17.52 | Wormy | Hi |
19:17.57 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
19:18.05 | Knight_Alien | Isnt your brain just a storing device , some say? |
19:18.09 | Wormy | I had three last night and I was a bit merry but not out of control |
19:18.15 | GD12 | Hello |
19:18.16 | Xho | The last time I went out drinking like that I was heavier than I was now |
19:18.21 | Xho | Than I am* |
19:18.25 | Wormy | Ah I see |
19:18.26 | Knight_Alien | SO how could it cause thoughts and Imagination. |
19:18.30 | Hachiman | If you think the brain is just a storage device then you're dum |
19:18.31 | DrodoEmpire | KA, pardon my being curt, but get to the point. |
19:18.36 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
19:18.37 | Wormy | It was probably a shock to the system |
19:18.38 | Hachiman | It's evolved to be a multifunctional organ |
19:18.44 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:19.02 | Xho | Then again now I'm sort of closer to underweight than I am anything else |
19:19.04 | TekDroid | Ypir brain is effectively a very complex computer. |
19:19.07 | Knight_Alien | I never said I thought It was just a stroing device. |
19:19.16 | Knight_Alien | I said some do. |
19:19.17 | DrodoEmpire | It handles and manages bodily functions, percieves signals from the organs, makes decisions from those signals, composes thoughts... |
19:19.28 | DrodoEmpire | The list goes on |
19:19.50 | Monet | No known computer can do what it can. Although there's question if the Internet as a whoel can do it |
19:19.51 | Knight_Alien | So once again I ask why does it cause Thoughts and Imagination? |
19:20.00 | Hachiman | And dreams are just images conjured in the brain while you're unconscious made from a combination of your thoughts and stored memories |
19:20.19 | DrodoEmpire | Why? Why does it have thoughts? |
19:20.22 | Xho | I imagine thoughts and imagnation are stimulus gathered from environmental experiences |
19:20.25 | DrodoEmpire | Because that's what it does. |
19:20.26 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
19:20.37 | DrodoEmpire | Are you trying to disprove science or something? |
19:20.46 | DrodoEmpire | I don't understand the question |
19:20.46 | Xho | You hear of feral children, I doubt they have the same thoughts and imagination as a child brought up in civilisation |
19:21.06 | Wormy | It would take a lot of new scientific evidence and explanation to convince me the mind does not emerge from the brain. But there is that key word, at the level of neurons, there is no thought or self-awareness. But together, all the neurons firing could perhaps emerge into consciousness in a way we don't fully understand. |
19:21.14 | Knight_Alien | So your Brain causes thoughts and hold thoughts so what about Imagination? |
19:21.36 | Hachiman | Same thing |
19:21.40 | DrodoEmpire | Imagination is similar to thought |
19:21.48 | Hachiman | Imagination stems from innovation |
19:21.52 | Knight_Alien | But it is not the same. |
19:21.55 | Wormy | Well imagination is the ability for our thoughts not to conform entirely to external stimulus |
19:22.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hence "similar" |
19:22.09 | DrodoEmpire | It allows you to actually use those those thoughts and ideas and put them to applied use |
19:22.40 | Knight_Alien | SO it is told. |
19:22.48 | DrodoEmpire | What, you have a better theory? |
19:22.49 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
19:23.03 | Xho | People often say that artificial intelligences will become intelligent enough to become self-aware |
19:23.08 | GD12 | ^ |
19:23.26 | Xho | I guess the brain functions similarly in that respect but the human brain has evolved over 200,000 years and technology has been around for only a fraction of that |
19:23.28 | Knight_Alien | Well so be it , my point is what you may think it is. |
19:23.54 | DrodoEmpire | That's the nature of theories; You never know anything 100% but you can know as much as physically possible. |
19:24.05 | Xho | I imagine technology's advancement which appears to be much quicker than human evolution will eventually surpass the human brain |
19:24.06 | Knight_Alien | Are you 100% sure Thoughts are Imagination comes from the Brain or the Soul? |
19:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | No; Because that's impossible. |
19:24.32 | DrodoEmpire | We only believe the brain is the command centre of the brain; But this belief is sound and supported by evidence |
19:24.37 | Knight_Alien | But I thought Souls were still a mystery? |
19:24.38 | DrodoEmpire | So it should be correct |
19:24.46 | DrodoEmpire | ...What? |
19:24.50 | DrodoEmpire | What the... |
19:24.56 | Hachiman | >Implying souls exist and are a thing in scientific theory and not a result of culture, religion and pre-modern misinformation |
19:24.57 | The_Randomness | There is no evidence that suggests that souls exist, or do not exist. |
19:25.00 | DrodoEmpire | Brain does not equal soul |
19:25.07 | DrodoEmpire | I missed the "soul" bit |
19:25.08 | Knight_Alien | And so the tower Crumbles. |
19:25.33 | The_Randomness | The soul is also an embodiment of the entire mind/body separation thing that I don't feel like going into right now. |
19:25.36 | DrodoEmpire | "And so the tower crumbles"? |
19:25.50 | Knight_Alien | I am just saying what if it is Inter-twined with souls if you believe in them. |
19:25.55 | Knight_Alien | That is my point. |
19:26.06 | TekDroid | There is scientific evidence that it comes from the brain while there is nome for souls. There is a burden of proof here, and it is not on brains. |
19:26.07 | Hachiman | What |
19:26.09 | Knight_Alien | So I am done. |
19:26.35 | DrodoEmpire | gtg |
19:26.35 | Hachiman | I think in the end it doesn't matter if souls exist or not really |
19:26.46 | Xho | Science is a human construction of everything trying to understand itself |
19:26.56 | Xho | What cannot be explained does not exist within the realms of science |
19:27.07 | TekDroid | ^ |
19:27.14 | Hachiman | But Xho, religion and mythology is the same |
19:27.16 | Wormy | I'm not even sure what a soul is, its different in different belief systems, and is occasionally implied by things. |
19:27.26 | Wormy | Don't bother explaining it to me |
19:27.35 | Xho | Hachiman: True |
19:27.39 | Hachiman | People come up with unrealistic BS to try and explain stuff they don't understand |
19:27.49 | Hachiman | Science just disproves it and shows how it's done |
19:28.21 | Xho | I'd like to think of the soul as a locked gateway of the subconscious being able to understand higher things than just what we see and experience |
19:28.38 | Wormy | Science is even about proof, but tentative rejection of error prone theories (less error prone ones survive) |
19:29.12 | Xho | I wonder whether it will get to a point when the purpose of science runs out |
19:29.12 | drom | Sweden is becoming a shit place to live in. |
19:29.32 | drom | I'm planning to immigrate to Norway by 2018. |
19:29.42 | Wormy | I'd like to think that the soul is the information that holds us together, like I said, our bodies change its if we have an information heritage. But I don't say this is actually so or a soul |
19:30.07 | Wormy | Because isn't that the Self? |
19:30.23 | The_Randomness | What is the self? |
19:30.35 | Knight_Alien | Well a Soul to me is your Personality , thoughts and such put together in one and it maybe works along side the body , Ghosts are lost souls ones to be lost and forgotten. |
19:30.53 | The_Randomness | spooky ghosts |
19:30.57 | Wormy | Consciousness? Or everything of ourselves we are conscious and unconsciously aware of? |
19:31.09 | Hachiman | spoopy |
19:31.12 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/15265_327531674074201_2708372663748862280_n.png?oh=5073b809bea5efe6181b1523bfbdac8d&oe=54CB9FAA |
19:31.24 | Wormy | Maybe the self is an illusion. Scary thought. |
19:31.26 | The_Randomness | Is the self entirely constructed by you? Or is it also shaped by social interactions? |
19:31.43 | Knight_Alien | And from a Religous perspective I think Heaven and hell are different Dimensions or Pocket diemsnsions were the same rules don't apply and our souls go their. |
19:31.44 | OluapPlayer | Spooky level: 2 |
19:32.09 | Xho | Things like psychopathology does support the idea that the self is an illusion |
19:32.42 | Knight_Alien | And those Dimensions are connected to ours so sumoning is a possible thing and ghosts are a possible thing. |
19:32.59 | Wormy | Daniel Dennet talks about that. And it could be that our lives, our "selfness", is a fiction concocted by the Left Brain to make sense of the world |
19:33.04 | Knight_Alien | And maybe ghosts are souls trapped here. |
19:33.11 | The_Randomness | spooky |
19:33.24 | Knight_Alien | So that is my therory. |
19:34.07 | Wormy | Sounds like theold "Ghost in the machine" |
19:34.19 | Wormy | or vitalism |
19:34.32 | Wormy | That the body is a puppet for the supernatural. |
19:34.36 | Knight_Alien | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrMXtZfaBiM Darksouls in a nutshell. |
19:35.49 | Wormy | There is evidence that our choices and thoughts, maybe in part me, determined by the unconscious mind. |
19:35.57 | Wormy | *may in part be |
19:36.14 | Wormy | Though that is an uncomfortable idea to say the least. |
19:36.32 | Knight_Alien | From a Religous Perspective it is a Training body I think and if we survive and we don't do a-lot of sinful things in the process we are rewarded but in another Demension/Pocket Demension. |
19:36.57 | Wormy | I think, minds are emergent myself, an organised loop of information, signal to symbol level and back again |
19:37.06 | The_Randomness | ^ |
19:37.25 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_loop#Definitions |
19:37.54 | Wormy | It may allow for some free will, at least at the symbolic level that arises out of different regions of the brain firing |
19:37.58 | Hachiman | As soon as you mention religion you've lost the scientific argument for proof |
19:38.04 | Wormy | Yes |
19:38.45 | Wormy | Religion requires faith, but science works of conjecture, criticism and refutation (that implies testability and the rest) |
19:39.06 | Knight_Alien | I am not Arguing , I was just sharing a therory they have. |
19:39.46 | Wormy | Its not really a theory in the scientific sense, I hate to be harsh. Its an idea though, and you did say "Religious perspective" |
19:39.55 | Xho | Hachiman: Alfgund Lawful Good -> Hates Elves |
19:40.02 | drom | Alright. It looks like Canada is going to be where I'll immigrate, probably with my family too. |
19:40.12 | Hachiman | Hates elves -> Likes everyone else |
19:40.22 | Xho | -> True |
19:40.56 | OluapPlayer | Alf |
19:40.59 | Xho | I'm still trying to work out what Pelagrios' elven heritage is from |
19:41.07 | Hachiman | Prostitution |
19:41.14 | OluapPlayer | kek |
19:41.36 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Funny cuz Alfgund's name is supposed to be something like "elf killer" when translated |
19:41.39 | Xho | I might make him half Natelevari-Elf which would make him unique |
19:41.45 | OluapPlayer | ALF THE ALIEN |
19:41.54 | OluapPlayer | Natelevari |
19:42.00 | OluapPlayer | wat da devil |
19:42.02 | Xho | http://www.ole-music.net/wp-content/uploads/Alf_digital_painting_by_ezekdesigns.png "I hate elves" |
19:43.05 | Xho | Natelevari Elves are an ancient elven race that are more or less extinct in the modern world |
19:43.11 | Wormy | The Tweenies Great Grandfather |
19:43.24 | Xho | The elven king who Kalarah blasted to bits with heat was a Natelevari Elf |
19:44.36 | Xho | In effect Pelagrios really should be taller than what he is since Natelevari Elves were around 6'8" tall |
19:44.48 | Xho | 203 cm that is |
19:45.15 | OluapPlayer | Well Clothovera is daughter of a 3m tall elf yet she's a womanlet |
19:45.18 | OluapPlayer | So not really |
19:45.22 | Monet | Well it has been 15,000 years |
19:45.35 | The_Randomness | I'll be back in a bit |
19:46.40 | Hachiman | Perhaps that artefact Pelagrios has stunted his growth |
19:46.48 | Xho | Possibly |
19:47.28 | Xho | I dunno what human heritage he has either |
19:47.37 | Hachiman | Probably Manorian |
19:47.55 | Hachiman | Either Manorian or Mannazian, he wouldn't be Alhassan or Karacay |
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19:48.47 | Xho | Oh great I need to make a page for the Natelevari Elves now don't I |
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19:49.23 | OluapPlayer | You don't need to |
19:49.36 | Hachiman | I'll need to make a page for the TÄ soon enough |
19:49.56 | Hachiman | I'll have to find ways to make them and the Lagosi not identical hur |
19:50.15 | Hachiman | Although considering that TÄ are human offshoots then I suppose that wouldn't be too hard |
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19:50.34 | OluapPlayer | get back to skype pls |
19:50.39 | Hachiman | ech |
19:52.50 | AndroImpy | Xho: Manorian or Alhassan |
19:53.09 | Xho | I chose Manorian |
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19:53.51 | AndroImpy | Pelagrios is now fantasy Italian hur |
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19:55.13 | Xho | He's a drunken lothario, it works |
19:55.18 | Hachiman | Pelagrios doesn't look at all Alhassan |
19:55.22 | Hachiman | First of all he's white |
19:55.46 | Xho | Actually his skin is golden |
19:55.54 | Xho | Golden/olive complexion |
19:56.07 | Xho | I just can't get it right in game |
19:56.11 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - don't be upsetti have some spaghetti |
19:56.29 | Xho | Turava - if by spaghetti you mean your dick then fuck off |
19:56.38 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - maybe yes |
19:57.12 | AndroImpy | Xho: So Arab/Italian/Jewish/Hispanic |
19:57.50 | Xho | Italian/Hispanic is closer |
19:58.26 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - it's a me, drunkio |
19:58.37 | Wormy | I found a perfectly trustworthy salesman https://twitter.com/Agdgdgwngo |
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19:58.56 | buildkirbyus | totally./ |
19:59.07 | OfficerJackal | Hello! |
19:59.11 | Wormy | hi |
20:00.31 | Xho | Although I dunno what kind of beings the Natelevarà Elves are |
20:00.46 | OluapPlayer | pointy eared men |
20:00.46 | OluapPlayer | c |
20:00.49 | Xho | Technically they're a more normal-looking High Elf |
20:00.56 | Xho | So yeah pretty much |
20:01.14 | Xho | Whereas the Orichalcum Elves were giant golden olympians |
20:02.17 | AndroImpy | Speaking of half-elves, I wonder if Imperials actually have a great deal of elven blood in them |
20:02.27 | Xho | Imperials - *scream* |
20:02.36 | Cyrannian | Hai |
20:02.37 | OluapPlayer | Not non-nazi ones should do hur |
20:02.46 | AndroImpy | Like most African-Americans are 20% European for example |
20:02.51 | OluapPlayer | ~wallop Cyrannian |
20:02.52 | infobot | ACTION Grabs a rather large desk and bonks Cyrannian about the head with it. |
20:03.13 | Xho | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10687107_2307396622648909_5543506194437412762_n.jpg?oh=be2ae793357b92e5d42cc1a33484343d&oe=549C0CFE |
20:03.28 | OluapPlayer | olol |
20:03.43 | buildkirbyus | LOGIC XD |
20:03.49 | Cyrannian | ~lick OluapPlayer |
20:03.49 | infobot | ACTION licks OluapPlayer *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
20:04.15 | Xho | Pelagrios without his Gladiitenebris shard wouldn't be very attractive |
20:04.28 | Xho | He'd have Void Sigil scars and burn marks all over him |
20:04.37 | Xho | And he'd probably start growing again |
20:04.50 | OluapPlayer | How would removing the demon artifact from him give him demon scars? |
20:04.50 | AndroImpy | Pelagrios is Hulk hur |
20:05.02 | OluapPlayer | If anything it should be the opposite |
20:05.10 | AndroImpy | Pelagrios - PELAGRIOS DRINK PUNY RUM |
20:05.13 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Pelagrios was captured and tortured in Abyssus |
20:05.31 | Xho | The Gladiitenebris shard healed the scars and burns over |
20:05.48 | Xho | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10406469_925724480808076_4927233115041629622_n.jpg?oh=c0756120d13cabb79238e814507581a1&oe=548C820C&__gda__=1418271412_98c91dcc286f9f61520ad10bdd035b5e |
20:05.52 | OluapPlayer | Right |
20:05.59 | OluapPlayer | SEY |
20:06.12 | Xho | Which is why Pelagrios recognised Ãnnoria and Leviathan |
20:06.27 | OluapPlayer | Now I imagine Pelagrios losing the shard in some random bar game because he's a dummy like that |
20:06.32 | AndroImpy | ...actually I can see an interesting storyline now |
20:06.38 | AndroImpy | *can imagine |
20:06.43 | Xho | Pelagrios - i never lose |
20:06.56 | Xho | It's true though, Pelagrios never loses hur |
20:06.56 | OluapPlayer | Kinmo - listen here u- wait he's right |
20:07.17 | AndroImpy | Javina (or some other racist Imperial) finds out she is distantly related to some important elf dude like Mequelet |
20:07.19 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios never loses -> send him to defeat Caligaduro -> he wins |
20:07.23 | AndroImpy | Cue butthurt, rage and denial |
20:07.40 | OluapPlayer | Yeah, speaking of which |
20:07.43 | OluapPlayer | Go work on Mequelet pls |
20:07.52 | AndroImpy | Rite |
20:08.39 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189432 I think I'll close this blog and add the suggestions unless anyone has any last-minute suggestions. |
20:09.32 | Wormy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0N_oJ10NcY |
20:09.32 | buildkirbyus | honestly, you're not getting an opinion from me, i haven't even started :P |
20:09.50 | Xho | I wonder whether Pelagrios' habitability with the Gladiitenebris shard has made him resilient to Caligaduro's gaze if he ever saw it |
20:10.08 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios stares at Caligaduro -> "bro u need to shave" |
20:10.14 | Xho | Caligaduro - shup |
20:10.27 | Monet | buildkirbyus: You're new here so I don't mind at all. |
20:11.23 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of Pelagrios, I had an idea for a pirate-y character and I imagine him and Pelagrios could have some history |
20:11.33 | OluapPlayer | And by "I had an idea" I mean "I stole the idea from Hachi" |
20:11.33 | Cyrannian | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140914185916/spore/images/b/bf/CyrandiaCluster.png - New map |
20:11.45 | Xho | hur |
20:11.49 | Hachiman | hue |
20:12.06 | OluapPlayer | A pirate dude who has a massive hateboner for Tangilaruka, Moby Dick-style |
20:12.21 | Xho | Pirate Dude - THE WHALE HE BE WHITE NOW |
20:12.25 | Hachiman | SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUNDER |
20:12.38 | OluapPlayer | Before you say anything, I'm aware that Captain Ahab wasn't a pirate |
20:12.47 | OluapPlayer | but shit dun give |
20:12.54 | Wormy | Beautiful map Cyrannian |
20:13.16 | Hachiman | Cyrannian: Pretty nice map, I like it |
20:13.20 | Wormy | And I learned something new about the disturbances. |
20:13.21 | Cyrannian | No, you're beautiful Wormy |
20:13.23 | OluapPlayer | It's a good map yeah |
20:13.34 | Xho | Using that allegory I realise that Pelagrios is Captain Ahab and Riad is Queequeg |
20:13.54 | Wormy | You are more elegant than me however, Cyrannian. |
20:14.20 | Xho | It's likely that Riad has engaged in cannibalism though |
20:14.28 | Monet | Cyrannian: Interesting map. I like the warping effect around the edges. |
20:15.22 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - GIANT FUCKING WHALE THERE IS NONE WHERE'S MY RUM |
20:15.36 | Monet | Although this buble makes me curious now as ot how the DI managed ot establish gateways in both Quadrants and Cyrannus...unless there are some shenanegans at work here. |
20:16.38 | Monet | Or maybe the Imperium somehow seized wormholes that happened to be natura lconenctions to these two galaxies. |
20:16.39 | Wormy | This is a public information announcement from the Holy Ones: |
20:16.42 | Wormy | -mist:$$*- [Global Notice] Reminder - This weekend freenode staff identified some compromised binaries present on a number of servers in the network. These servers have been taken offline. Since password-sniffing may have taken place, we advise all users to change their passwords. /msg nickserv set password newpasshere. More information will follow later in the week. http://blog.freenode.net/2014/09/server-issues-2/ |
20:16.51 | Wormy | -mist:$$*- [Global Notice] Please note - this is not a new issue, just another notice of the same issue from the weekend. If you already changed your password following the previous announcement you do not need to change it again. Sorry for any confusion |
20:17.14 | Wormy | I never made a password so hah hah |
20:17.27 | OluapPlayer | More like you never learned how to make a password |
20:17.30 | OluapPlayer | Wiggly dum |
20:17.34 | Wormy | But you might want to |
20:17.53 | Wormy | Yeah always mess it up when I try |
20:19.02 | Monet | On second thoughts yeah, Seized wormholes is probably the most likely situation. |
20:20.20 | Xho | Thinking about it, Pelagrios is going down a dark path with or without the Gladiitenebris shard |
20:20.34 | Xho | His Natelevari Elf heritage probably means he's going to live a lot longer than the average human |
20:21.32 | Xho | How long, I don't know though |
20:21.46 | OluapPlayer | 12 seconds |
20:21.57 | Xho | A night with Pelagrios = $400,000 |
20:22.12 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - FOR TWELVE SECONDS... *cries* |
20:22.38 | Xho | Pelagrios - twelve seconds is all it takes |
20:23.13 | Xho | Well King Dromaedon wasn't even middle aged by the time of his death and he was around 2,050 years old |
20:23.30 | Xho | So I'd hazard a guess at a Natelevarà Elf's lifespan at around 8,000 years |
20:24.31 | Xho | Judging his half-elven nature Pelagrios will probably live around two tothree thousand years |
20:24.39 | Xho | two to three* |
20:25.06 | Monet | Right. Xho's and AB's quotes will go at the top, I'l lfind somewhere to put VIncent's (maybe a society summary) |
20:25.27 | Xho | Though considering he never knew his father was a Natelevari Elf nor does he even know what a Natelevari Elf is he's probably gonna start going down a dark path once he realises he isn't going to die any time soon |
20:25.45 | Hachiman | If they're extinct how was his dad one |
20:25.52 | Xho | Almost extinct I said |
20:26.29 | Xho | Either his father was thousands of years old (and hid it very well) or he was just normally ageed |
20:26.31 | Xho | aged* |
20:28.08 | Xho | Though on his page there it says his mother was captured |
20:28.27 | Xho | Likelihood was that the Shiarchon burnt her alive and then used her charcoaled mass as a display |
20:28.42 | Xho | Shiarchon are friendly like that |
20:28.59 | OluapPlayer | Shiarchon - bitch called me fat bit rude |
20:29.43 | Xho | Reason behind the Shiarchon burning down the town/city that Pelagrios lived in was likely for the sole reason that his father and his father's kind was a long-standing enemy of the Legion |
20:33.09 | Xho | Seems that Pelagrios and Clothovera share a similar past |
20:33.18 | Xho | Half-elven children obviously don't last long in Koldenwelt |
20:34.11 | OluapPlayer | Not when they live near xenophobes |
20:34.31 | Xho | Pelagrios - hey the xenophobes came to us |
20:38.39 | AndroImpy | Speaking of which I wonder where does Clothovera's human parent come from |
20:39.11 | Xho | I've given Pelagrios' father's name as Astrelevaron Dromaedon |
20:40.36 | Wormy_away | Top 10 Crazy Computer Case Designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uK86qQn5DU |
20:40.56 | OluapPlayer | Her human mother comes from an old bloodline of witches |
20:41.16 | Xho | Wormy_away: If the cube one was black and glowed red I'd be sold |
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20:41.51 | Wormy_away | yeah |
20:42.01 | Wormy_away | My desktop glows red |
20:43.01 | Liquid_Ink | Howdy |
20:44.15 | Xho | Same hur |
20:44.42 | Cyrannian | Hai |
20:48.07 | AndroImpy | Rite I will begin working on Mequelet now |
20:48.22 | OluapPlayer | gud |
20:48.34 | AndroImpy | Since I seem to have catched some illness I will be at home all day tomorrow so I will have time |
20:48.50 | OluapPlayer | tuff hur |
20:48.53 | OluapPlayer | jk |
20:49.01 | Wormy_away | Baby Jumping Festival https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eSLijEGgLA&list=UUZWcMUTC1LCinAvbT4xW3EA |
20:49.46 | AndroImpy | Also we can do some RP tomorrow too |
20:49.55 | OluapPlayer | I have work tomorrow |
20:50.12 | Ghel | Hello. |
20:50.29 | AndroImpy | I mean an RP in general, not Vampire stuff |
20:50.39 | OluapPlayer | well fuk u too |
20:50.41 | AndroImpy | It does not have to include you, I am talking to everyone |
20:51.17 | Wormy_away | i |
20:51.22 | Wormy_away | hi |
20:52.06 | Monet | I think I might only be available in the evening |
20:52.13 | Monet | First day of induction tomorrow |
20:53.18 | AndroImpy | Rite |
20:53.27 | AndroImpy | Will there be any Latin chanting there? |
20:53.53 | Monet | There wasn't last time I went, and my previosu couse was part induction int othe Royal Institute of British Architects. |
20:54.04 | Monet | Although I think that would coem in my third year |
20:54.04 | Wormy_away | If Nicholas Cage was a woman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwcMz9X_220&index=26&list=UUZWcMUTC1LCinAvbT4xW3EA |
20:54.30 | Wormy_away | 0:45 |
20:55.04 | Xho | AndroImpy: RP for what |
20:55.08 | Monet | Also the Imperium's formal name is "The Sublime Imperium of the Drak'onis" (in High Dracid its "Salpemarga Dominicus'drakonisda") |
20:55.20 | AndroImpy | Xho: Shattering dunno |
20:55.49 | Monet | Yes I am pushign the snobbery lol |
20:58.48 | Hachiman | I wonder if the TÄ have an independent civilization of their own or if they exist exclusively across the human civilizations |
20:58.59 | Hachiman | I know they can be found throughout human territories though |
20:59.02 | Hachiman | Probably |
20:59.26 | Cyrannian | Are they your new ape civilisation? |
20:59.29 | Wormy_away | 123 year old man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqlq4vxR1V4&src_vid=U2W6dTTclHI&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2604222389 |
20:59.37 | OluapPlayer | finish paegs |
20:59.38 | Hachiman | No, they're Hachi's kind |
20:59.58 | Hachiman | The space monkeys will come much later hur |
21:01.34 | Hachiman | This makes me wonder what TÄ hybrids look like when they mate with baselines/nearbaselines |
21:01.49 | Hachiman | Since the TÄ are presumably compatible with baseline humans |
21:02.24 | Xho | i dun wanna kno |
21:02.26 | AndroImpy | Hachiman: Maybe the TÄ have an organised/self-governed diaspora within human territories, a "state within a state" of some sort |
21:02.30 | Monet | Less hary munkeys perhaps? |
21:02.39 | Monet | Wait Ta hybrids... |
21:02.46 | Monet | Bunny peopel with smaller ears? |
21:02.47 | AndroImpy | ? |
21:02.59 | Ghel | When they mate with baseline humans, the babies are bunnies. That's all I know. |
21:03.03 | AndroImpy | Monet: Bunny kemonomimi people hur |
21:03.32 | AndroImpy | Humans + TÄ = Playboy bunnies hur |
21:03.54 | Monet | Hugh Hefner - someone ressurect me |
21:04.00 | OluapPlayer | fukin furfags |
21:04.17 | Hachiman | >Implying Hugh Hefner doesn't still exist as a disembodied intelligence in a synthetic body |
21:04.29 | Monet | All hair Hefnertron |
21:04.50 | buildkirbyus | Specing a spaceship to stats... a lot more difficult than you might think,. |
21:05.16 | Monet | TBF the geezer is old, I'm not sure if he'd live long enough to see mind uploading |
21:06.16 | Xho | Well, he is 88 |
21:06.28 | Monet | Dayumn son. |
21:06.38 | AndroImpy | So, what if the Ta basically have small communities in each human state that are all governed by some bunny council or something |
21:07.19 | Hachiman | I guess it depends on the state that these communities reside within but yeah that kinda makes sense |
21:07.27 | Monet | Like the nuerous Jewish communities? |
21:07.31 | Cyrannian | A bunny council sounds adorable |
21:07.53 | Hachiman | Urgent political discussions are held over carrots and lettuce |
21:08.10 | AndroImpy | Monet: Yeah think Jewish or Korean |
21:08.25 | Monet | I'm more familiar with Jewish communities. |
21:08.53 | AndroImpy | There is a community/organisation in my city called "Korean National Cultural Autonomy" that keeps inviting me to various events and meetings |
21:09.04 | AndroImpy | I ought to visit one of them one day |
21:09.10 | Monet | I've never seen that in ENgland. |
21:09.30 | Hachiman | We don't get a lot of Jews over here |
21:10.06 | Monet | I think Jewish communities arem ore common in the states. |
21:10.20 | AndroImpy | We had a lot of Jews |
21:10.36 | AndroImpy | But now they all went to Israel ;-; |
21:10.40 | AndroImpy | *moved |
21:10.42 | Monet | The term "ghetto" originalyl referred to a Jewish part of a city. |
21:10.46 | AndroImpy | Ya |
21:10.46 | Xho | Jewish communities in the UK are mostly in London |
21:10.47 | Monet | I believe |
21:10.59 | AndroImpy | Aren't the Scottish traditionally associated with usual Jewish stereotypes in England instead BTW? |
21:12.01 | Monet | You might be 200 years a bit late if you're referring to Brit-Jacobite aminosity. |
21:12.19 | AndroImpy | I mean the association with commerce |
21:12.31 | Monet | No I don't think so. |
21:12.33 | AndroImpy | Scrooge McDuck hur |
21:13.03 | Monet | The "scots and employment" stereotype we have is thme working in shipyards, mines or heavy industry |
21:13.27 | Monet | Scrooge McDuck however is a stereotype of the wealthy landowning Scottish clan heads. |
21:13.58 | Monet | WHo would own these big country houses out in the highlands |
21:14.29 | AndroImpy | Rite |
21:14.36 | buildkirbyus | I'm going to log off now, see you guys later! |
21:14.40 | Monet | Bye |
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21:15.26 | Monet | After all, "mcDuck" indicate's he's from Clan McDuck. |
21:15.56 | Monet | Or is it referred to as "clan Duck", not sure |
21:16.06 | Hachiman | Clan Duck |
21:16.12 | Monet | RIght. |
21:16.21 | Monet | "mc" being like "of" |
21:17.55 | AndroImpy | In Russia, the ethnicity traditionally depicted as miserly is the Ukrainians |
21:18.35 | AndroImpy | "What I can't eat, I'll bite" |
21:18.57 | Monet | I'm not sure who the "miserly" British ethinicity is. |
21:19.16 | Knight_Alien | What is this Clan duck thing? |
21:19.36 | Monet | Knight_ALien: It's what Scrooge's McDuck's surname means |
21:19.58 | Knight_Alien | Ducktales right? |
21:20.03 | Monet | Yeah |
21:20.07 | Knight_Alien | oh. |
21:20.14 | Monet | I think the British Isles ahs more of a miserly class than a miserly ethinicity |
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21:21.24 | Hachiman | Well there are the stereotypes of the Iirhs |
21:21.26 | Hachiman | *Irish |
21:21.51 | Knight_Alien | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txj6ROnIUIo Ducktales with ducks. |
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21:22.12 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
21:22.24 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
21:22.34 | Monet | Dickens made out Ebenezer Scrooge and the Marley Brothers to be the epitome of the serious London businessman; Cold, uncaring, money-centred and priding themselves on being the ideal of a modern and evolving Britain. |
21:24.50 | Monet | Dickens was born into the working-class echelons of society, so to him these guys were like uncaring giants striding across Victorian London, shaping it and stamping down factories as and where they pleased with no apparent thought as to the lives they were affecting. |
21:25.27 | Monet | The victorian epitome was discipline, order, civility and organisation. |
21:26.36 | Monet | Makes sense I guess, London was becoming one of the wealthiest cities of its day |
21:27.40 | Monet | It was the heart of an empire and was busting at the seams from the fruits of foreign shores and a popular urban home for merchant moguls and the like |
21:28.18 | Monet | Being the home of the London Stock Exchange it was also the heart of business withi nthe Empire. |
21:29.23 | Monet | Even today with globalisation ists something like what, at least 4x more populous than any other city in the UK? |
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21:29.50 | Wyrmy | My image of rich Victorians is based on the bankers in Mary Poppins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxyB29bDbBA |
21:31.18 | Wyrmy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk23s4hh8M8 |
21:31.20 | Monet | Wyrmy: Cose but a few years two late. |
21:31.58 | Monet | Queen Vic had been dead 9 years before Mary Poppins was set |
21:32.25 | Monet | But I would say that's the tail end of the affluent Victorian. |
21:32.31 | Wyrmy | yep |
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21:33.49 | Wyrmy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm0hSAgFhZo |
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21:34.30 | Wyrmy | they destroy his hat and umbrella |
21:34.52 | Monet | The stuff Mr. Banks talks about when encouraging his kids to start a bank account, about the investments they'd be helping ,is typical of Victorian ambition. |
21:35.00 | drom | Sweden will be ruled by a Red-Green coalition for the 4 next coming years. |
21:35.29 | Monet | They believed that industry and expansion were the order of the day. |
21:38.53 | Knight_Alien | drom what or who is the Red-green coalition , Terrorists? |
21:39.08 | The_Randomness | Probably just referring to a political party or something |
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21:40.40 | drom | Knight_Alien: Hahah no. |
21:40.59 | Monet | Wyrmy:Tey don't hurt Mr. Banks physically but the destruction of his hat and umbrella is certainly a powerful signal |
21:41.05 | drom | They are a coalition of three left-wing parties. |
21:41.22 | drom | One of them is focused on environment. |
21:41.37 | Knight_Alien | If this is a riddle of sorts I am bad at them. XD |
21:41.37 | Monet | The destruction of those two items could be a more "civilised" method of punishment |
21:41.47 | drom | Socialist Democrats, Left Party, Environment Party |
21:42.01 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10626590_927237180630627_2372235300348180968_n.jpg?oh=38ae994869bd85d80bab4a5c3986b5e7&oe=5492C515&__gda__=1422745005_6e41589c612cc731301bc8289aebeb86 |
21:42.10 | Wyrmy | I can see it hurting a Victorian/Post Victorian man |
21:42.20 | Wyrmy | to have these items destroyed |
21:43.06 | Monet | Hachiman: Tis a glorious week for physics and medicine |
21:43.24 | Cyrannian | It looks like I follow a lot of the same pages as you do on Facebook. That post just showed up on "I fucking love science" :P |
21:43.26 | Xho | Hachiman: Just thought of the strange genre clash between a hybrid of Meshuggah and Muse |
21:43.35 | Hachiman | Geezush |
21:43.51 | The_Randomness | Relevant xkcd: http://xkcd.com/54/ |
21:43.53 | Wormy | I'm not sure what to think of IFLS |
21:44.27 | Wormy | Everything that goes on it was already written in detail by Newscientist or Phys.Org or ScienceDaily |
21:44.39 | Cyrannian | I just liked it last week. That was the first thing to catch my eye |
21:45.24 | Wormy | More on the solid light http://phys.org/news/2014-09-solid-previously-unsolvable-problems.html |
21:45.25 | Monet | Wormy: I think IFLS could be consisdered a way to sum it all up |
21:45.34 | Wormy | true |
21:45.37 | Hachiman | Wormy: Don't you have to pay for Newscientist though? |
21:45.50 | Monet | Hachiman: Not neccessarily |
21:45.51 | Wormy | No, you can subscribe for free |
21:46.01 | Wormy | And you get a feed of limited time articles |
21:46.20 | Wormy | and lots of pages you don't have to subscribe for |
21:46.24 | Monet | I can't remember if it was you Wyrmy or I discovered it on my own or someone eelse linking: A super-high speed footage showing light travelling from a osurce. |
21:46.32 | Wormy | I mean "Sign in" for free |
21:46.48 | OluapPlayer | "spinosaurus was semi-aquatic and ate sharks" |
21:46.54 | OluapPlayer | That's fucking awesome hur |
21:47.13 | Monet | Eat that all those who say Spinosaurus only ate fishies. |
21:47.23 | Monet | I know sharks are fish but usually they mean smaller fishi |
21:47.25 | Hachiman | Sharks are fish |
21:47.27 | Hachiman | hur |
21:47.55 | Monet | I mean stuff like carp |
21:47.58 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrandia_Cluster - Still under construction, but take a look so far or I'll castrate one of you at random. |
21:48.06 | Wormy | the big NS articles in the magazine itself you have to subscribe and pay, or buy the magazine |
21:49.14 | The_Randomness | Nice picture at the top, not really sure how I feel about the Tolkien-esque font used in it though |
21:50.11 | Wormy | Ooh they'll find a curse I bet http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028144.500-first-images-from-great-pyramids-chamber-of-secrets.html#.VBYNPfldV8E |
21:54.32 | The_Randomness | inb4 there's graffiti that says "First" |
21:56.35 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10649663_327532177407484_1716027351628189665_n.jpg?oh=42608a011042b86b0809dab61b47efa3&oe=54CBEF84&__gda__=1422749528_93c34ae6089a6dd88bb0d36d107bc522 |
21:57.08 | The_Randomness | check yourself before you wreck yourself amirite |
21:57.20 | Wormy | IFLS is accused of copyright infringement http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/compound-eye/2013/04/23/facebooks-i-fcking-love-science-does-not-fcking-love-artists/ |
21:58.12 | Monet | Well there are a -lot- of images it uses that are nto photographs. |
21:58.17 | Monet | SOmeone's got to make them |
21:58.32 | Xho | Wormy: That's quite interesting actually, the pyramid |
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22:04.20 | Xho | I should really remake Pelagrios and Leviathan |
22:04.25 | Xho | I'll do that tomorrow |
22:07.01 | drom | Knight_Alien: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45707598/l%C3%B6fven.png |
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22:07.10 | drom | That's the Socialist's party leader. |
22:07.56 | Knight_Alien | XD |
22:08.12 | Knight_Alien | That is a maybe future leader of sweden? |
22:08.17 | drom | the redgreenes shrekted the blues (liberals and capitalists) |
22:08.20 | Cyrannian | Nightie night |
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22:09.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
22:09.09 | Hachiman | Hai |
22:09.13 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
22:09.23 | drom | hai goose |
22:10.37 | Monet | Hi |
22:13.04 | drom | Is Canada a great country? |
22:13.25 | DrodoEmpire | Is it? |
22:13.33 | DrodoEmpire | Well in my opinion I suppose so. :P |
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22:14.03 | DrodoEmpire | That said I am Canadian so I might not be the best one to ask; Perhaps just a bit biased. |
22:14.24 | Wormy | http://www.iflscience.com/brain/direct-brain-brain-communication-used-humans |
22:14.26 | drom | If the blues and the nationalists win the next government selection. Gibe asylum |
22:14.37 | Monet | Id say its an alright country. |
22:14.39 | drom | (in our country) |
22:14.51 | DrodoEmpire | Though the Tories are just a joke |
22:14.59 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
22:15.19 | Monet | Same here i nthe UK |
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22:16.54 | Xho | Just saw this thing about Imhotep from The Mummy vs Dracula |
22:16.59 | Xho | is dis even a reel contest |
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22:17.28 | Wormy | http://a8.ahfunny.com/stories/celebrities/15-cartoon-characters-in-real-life/8 |
22:17.35 | Monet | Xho: Probably |
22:18.08 | Wormy | Butt Head looks like a friend of mine... |
22:18.09 | Xho | Well you have Dracula who is a centuries old vampire and then Imhotep who's a millennia-old mummy resurrected as the harbinger of the Ten Plagues of Egypt |
22:18.25 | Monet | Oh dear my sides Jhonny Bravo! |
22:20.47 | Wormy | Lots of people look like Peter Griffin |
22:21.33 | Wormy | http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1272338195900410.jpeg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-f06l--4AB7g/Tu-LDJMSkII/AAAAAAAAAMM/_Dy6wLCJxBI/s1600/Peter+Griffin.jpg http://www.digdang.com/media/images/real_life_family_guy_663.jpg http://media.techeblog.com/images/family_guy_characters_in_real_life_2.jpg |
22:22.15 | Monet | Wormy: What's the DCP's situations regarding education and commerce? |
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22:24.43 | Wormy | Education - All childrehn are educated well, though like in the Soviet Union, there would be ideologically bound, especially on governance, free will, economy, maybe the arts |
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22:25.22 | Wormy | Commerce, I dunno. I don't imagine there is much in the way of property |
22:25.24 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
22:25.30 | Monet | Hi |
22:25.36 | Monet | Thanks. |
22:25.51 | Monet | I was going ot mention how the Imperium's stance on education and ocmmerce stacks up to other nations. |
22:26.14 | Wormy | .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-property_system |
22:26.31 | Wormy | I think I imagine the DCP like that |
22:27.28 | drom | Alright. The elections are now over. |
22:27.47 | drom | As I said before. Sweden is now a socialist state. |
22:27.53 | drom | G'night. |
22:30.54 | The_Awayness | Hey Panda |
22:37.01 | Wormy | sweet dreams http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/article_main_wide_image/public/images/72780.jpg?itok=aSgFJnAE |
22:37.51 | Knight_Alien | XD |
22:41.21 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium#Culture how's this? |
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22:43.39 | The_Awayness | Well-written and nice and short |
22:46.05 | Wormy | good work |
22:49.00 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10703819_327532077407494_1851525016350965534_n.jpg?oh=c50607b77f60e4df043b751366558482&oe=548E1779&__gda__=1418207507_6ce8a13d12e12b7aa35e2d478986b48f |
22:49.28 | Monet | "Well because....science...?" |
22:50.00 | AdmiralPanda | "this all happened because your scientists asked "can we" rather than "should we"" |
22:50.10 | Knight_Alien | Mostly XD |
22:50.51 | The_Awayness | lol |
22:52.49 | OluapPlayer | hur |
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23:07.55 | Knight_Alien | Have any of you heard of jeff wayne's war of the worlds? |
23:09.11 | Wormy | Addicted to it. |
23:09.48 | Knight_Alien | I love it. |
23:09.51 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire and Angrybirds: Do you two happen to play NationStates? |
23:09.59 | DrodoEmpire | I have one |
23:10.02 | DrodoEmpire | Never use it |
23:10.14 | Knight_Alien | What is your favorite song from it wormy? |
23:10.29 | Angrybirds | Hachiman: I used to, Tek is the nationstates fan here. ^.^ Why do you ask? |
23:11.39 | DrodoEmpire | test |
23:11.58 | Hachiman | I've been thinking about NationStates and I was wondering if you guys perhaps wanted to found a group of nations for us to play/experiment with |
23:12.20 | Monet | I think we used ot have a NationStates group at one time |
23:12.24 | Angrybirds | Tek0516 |
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23:13.56 | Knight_Alien | My favorite song from it is Dead london https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCwgV3fKMeg. |
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23:18.22 | Knight_Alien | Also Wormy they made a game based on Jeff waynes war of the worlds. |
23:19.04 | Knight_Alien | And in it their is a very Imperialistict song for the martains. |
23:21.41 | Knight_Alien | :{ |
23:22.20 | Knight_Alien | So the rest of you havn't heard of Jeff waynes W.O.T.W? |
23:22.36 | Hachiman | Of course we have |
23:23.34 | Knight_Alien | Just not super buffs like wormy. |
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23:24.10 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
23:24.11 | Wormy | hi |
23:25.20 | Monet | Goodnight |
23:25.38 | Knight_Alien | Night |
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23:28.22 | Knight_Alien | Was Vincent on today? |
23:30.27 | Hachiman | Yes |
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23:30.48 | GD12 | Hello |
23:32.04 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
23:32.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hey GD |
23:35.06 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_Vampires/The_Attacks#Dryadali:_Attack_at_Umbral_Refuge kaiju fightin' |
23:37.13 | Hachiman | Cue Pacific Rim / Shingeki no Kyojin music |
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23:46.45 | TekDroid | >.< My family had set up a Skype schedule for me for university. Which basically consisted of them saying they'll call me at that time |
23:47.06 | TekDroid | I donât even remember what half the times they told me are. |
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23:48.05 | Angrybirds | Anyone want a state-of-the art and awesome-looking light tank? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Gu%C3%A9pard :D |
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23:59.52 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire AngryBirds Tek0516: Would you be interested in founding a region for us to play with in NationStates? |