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01:06.37Quark8Hello.
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01:15.26MonetHello
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01:22.28MonetGoodnight
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01:51.23Quark8Hello.
01:54.36Knight_AlienWelcome.
01:58.47Vincent20100Hey
01:59.47Quark8Want to talk?
01:59.57Vincent20100A little
02:00.03Vincent20100gaotta go sleep soon that said
02:00.44Quark8Whats the time there?
02:01.08Vincent2010022h00 but gotta wake early
02:01.30Quark87 PM here
02:01.47Quark8But i have to wake up early too
02:02.43Vincent20100Designing some weapons for the APR
02:02.53Vincent20100I will sold them on the Arm market too
02:05.08Quark8I could go to bed at 12 or something and wake up at 6 like Im supposed to, but my parents think I'm too young to manage
02:05.20Quark8APR?
02:05.27Vincent20100Algolurn Popular Republic.
02:05.47Quark8Oh.
02:07.41Quark8brb
02:08.03Knight_AlienThe Eldarisian's may be intrested in buying weapons from the APR.
02:08.30Vincent20100Sure
02:08.37Vincent20100It is mainly energy weaponry
02:09.26Vincent20100By the way Knight, I will add Eldarisin in...Non-Aggression Pact?
02:09.54Vincent20100Send me link to your page
02:10.42Knight_AlienYou wish for a Non-agression pact with the Eldarisian's?
02:11.15Knight_Alienhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire Their page.
02:11.29Vincent20100Sure
02:11.35Vincent20100It's kinda of a first step ^^
02:12.04Knight_AlienYes it is.
02:12.39Vincent20100I don't have time this week
02:13.08Knight_AlienRemember the Eldarisian's are a very Religous Empire so they will most Likely ask for their Religion in your Republic.
02:13.14Vincent20100I'm at work from 7am to 14pm than travel to school, to school from 15pm to 21h30pm
02:13.22Knight_AlienWow.
02:13.25Vincent20100Maybe, we will see
02:13.38Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Non-Aggression_Pact
02:15.13Knight_AlienExcellent.
02:15.19Vincent20100I will basically do an AK-47 version in spore, but laser this time
02:15.34Vincent20100And a Tesla pistol
02:17.30Knight_AlienI see.
02:19.09Vincent20100Reliable, easy to use, cheap
02:23.49Vincent20100Anyway, gotta go
02:23.52Vincent20100++
02:25.25Knight_AlienBye.
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02:59.45TekDroidHello
03:12.00Knight_AlienHi
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03:21.08TekDroidHello
03:22.34Knight_AlienHi
03:22.39Knight_AlienNetwork issues?
03:23.12TekDroidYeah.
03:23.23TekDroidWi-fi sucks at my residence.
03:24.32Knight_AlienHome or Hotel?
03:24.35Knight_AlienOh.
03:25.26Knight_AlienWhat is your WIki provider?
03:25.37Knight_Alien*Wifi*
03:26.03TekDroidI don't know. It's my university residence.
03:26.18Knight_AlienAh.
03:26.28Knight_AlienThat explains it.
03:28.05Knight_AlienMy Internet is Super unless it is 12 pm.
03:28.14Knight_AlienI mean 12 am.
03:28.38Knight_Alien12 is the only bad hour of the day for my Inernet.
03:28.51Knight_Alien:{
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03:30.21TekDroidA good download speed is 300 kb/s so far.
03:30.45Knight_AlienTek your best way to get good internet is to get Comcasts Colledge thing.
03:30.57TekDroidI'm Canadian.
03:31.06Knight_AlienIt gives a Discount and great internet.
03:31.10Knight_AlienOh.
03:32.11TekDroid>.< It's been over a minute and only 1MB downloaded
03:33.13Knight_AlienTek it will get better over time.
03:43.43TekDroidChrome gave up on the file 2MB in.
04:17.27Liquid_Inkjumps up and down to get attention.
04:23.46Tybusenchains Liquid_Ink to the ground
04:24.13Liquid_Inkhttp://pastie.org/private/0ge4fzkeqqhwbmbxueiw Read the kind of creepy shit I can write.
04:28.58TybusenKinky.
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04:30.00Liquid_InkIt's meant to be horrific
04:31.53Liquid_InkAlthough if women having their bodies burned and torn up is your thing I don't believe I have the right to judge you.
04:32.10TybusenI was saying it ironically
04:32.22TybusenIt is pretty gruesome
04:32.56TybusenThough I think I've been hanging out with GD for too long since it didn't have a ton of impact on me
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06:29.42ImpyDroidHiya
06:30.13ImpyDroidTybusen: How is school/college/uni like, comrade?
06:30.25TybusenTomorrow is my first day of senior year
06:30.36TybusenI'm going to have to start sending out college applications oon
06:30.38Tybusen*soon
06:30.48TybusenSo it's busy
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07:24.52dromHahah! Gonna infect some mates!
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08:01.07GhelaeHello.
08:01.33GhelaeOh, thanks for adminifying me, whoever it was. :D
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08:05.00GhelI might just wait a few hours until my internet stops playing up.
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09:23.36Liquid_InkHello
09:26.42Liquid_InkHow are you?
09:27.30XhoI'm feeling better than I have done
09:32.51Liquid_InkOh you're feeling better?
09:33.05XhoA bit
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09:45.26GhelaeHello.
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09:50.20GhelaeHello.
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11:05.21Liquid_Inkslaps everybody awake.
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11:08.21Xhoups
11:08.30OluapWorkerspu
11:08.45XhoI did something yesterday and I forgot what it was
11:08.51XhoOh yeah that Orayu character
11:09.15OluapWorkeririii
11:09.22Xhouruuu
11:09.43OluapWorkerIt's a good character
11:09.59OluapWorkerBut I can't quote him for now
11:10.01OluapWorkerhe unkn own
11:10.05OluapWorkerunknown even
11:10.18Xhowell do sumthin aboot it den
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11:10.31HachimanHai
11:10.53Xhodat just creepy
11:11.12Hachimanwut
11:11.13OluapWorkeromg hai
11:11.26XhoOluap comes on two minutes before you do
11:11.50OluapWorkerI'm always followed by my waifu
11:11.58XhoAlthough I dunno which character should be introduced first
11:12.01XhoEsulus or Longinus
11:12.46OluapWorkerProbably Longinus, he's been around longer
11:15.49OluapWorkerI'm wondering how to actually introduce the Dawn Wardens, which is something I should've thought of before making them
11:17.11OluapWorkerI was thinking about a meeting between Vixaatus and the leaders of Koldenwelt's major factions but I question how viable that would be
11:17.24HachimanWell it could work
11:18.30OluapWorkerMainly because it might end up as a clusterfuck of users
11:18.44OluapWorkerAnd rps involving more than 3 or 4 people are painful
11:24.38OluapWorkerActually it might not involve more than just 3 people when I think about it
11:24.57OluapWorkerRight now the only major factions I can think of are the Merovar, the Empire, the Sovereign and the Klaxxa
11:25.11OluapWorkerWhich is kinda underwhelming
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11:25.55Wormyhi
11:30.34GhelHello.
11:32.09XhoOluapWorker: Or you just get Earath going around Koldenwelt saying "join dawn wardens nao"
11:33.23OluapWorkerThat's not the point
11:33.43Xhohttp://dynamickeys.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/point-16454.jpg is nao
11:33.48OluapWorkerThis is about having the major factions recognize the Wardens' authority
11:34.28OluapWorkerAnd also recognize them as not being a threat to them
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11:34.34OluapWorkerHence a peaceful meeting
11:34.36OluapWorkerhi
11:34.45XhoCould do both
11:35.54GhelHello.
11:36.20XhoAlthough I think the Empire would be inclined to go "GIANT ALIQUAM KILL IT"
11:36.41XhoOr the Shiarchon, one of those two
11:36.45OluapWorkerVixaatus - shuddup u bitch im tryin to help here
11:36.51OluapWorkerShiarchon wouldn't be invited hur
11:36.53AdmiralPandaGot my dad to play the first three levels of Portal 2 co-op with me
11:38.13OluapWorkerI could also have the Vermin King attend to this meeting
11:38.21OluapWorkerQueen -> sultan -> councillor -> rat
11:39.00XhoKalarah - and u dunt invite me
11:39.18OluapWorkerVixaatus - cus maed wardens 2 kill u
11:39.53XhoKalarah - meen
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11:43.25XhoAre we still going with the idea that the Dawn Warden HQ is an abandoned Ori fortress or not
11:48.24OluapWorkerYes
11:48.27OluapWorkerbbs job
11:56.46WormyNgh, how could I get myself embroiled in an argument about meditation of all things (chain starts with "RaidenAway") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D7qAQ720x8
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12:00.06OluapWorker2quiet
12:06.17HachimanTwas downstairs
12:06.37HachimanGonna have to buy equipment for college and get stuff to apply for ID in the next week
12:07.33OluapWorkerdisgustin
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12:08.15HachimanI might work on "Future Hachi"
12:08.30HachimanWhich means you can gimme ideas for adventures, meetings, relations, etc hur
12:09.05OluapWorkerRelations -> no Allies or Friends because everyone died by then
12:09.30HachimanShit hur
12:09.39OluapWorkerHard to suggest stuff like that without spoiling stuff
12:09.44OluapWorkerstuff stuff
12:13.03Vincent20100Got good stuff mate?
12:13.22HachimanHm?
12:13.25Vincent20100Where's the good stuff?!
12:14.23OluapWorkerbbs again
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12:24.56OluapWorkerI come back to see Ghelae as an op
12:24.59OluapWorkerI feel usurped
12:25.38Ghelaecackles maniacally
12:25.48Ghelae~give OluapWorker a cookie
12:25.48infobotACTION gives OluapWorker a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.
12:26.14OluapWorkerhur
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12:30.15OluapWorkerXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3ACairaov%C3%A9n c adn quote dis
12:30.17WormyInteresting the age of nations might be coming to an end..  It will now be a memetic war between nations and postmodern societies http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329851.500-in-our-world-beyond-nations-the-future-is-medieval.html#.VAhZYPldV8E
12:30.19OluapWorkerand even
12:30.23AdmiralPandahi again
12:30.35Tek0516Supposed to start my first university class in 5 minutes. :O
12:30.47WormyBetter get to the lecture theatre then
12:30.55Wormyor class
12:31.00Wormywhatever it is
12:38.56WormyIf it comes down to a memetic war, nations are at a disadvantage
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12:42.42Vincent20100Well...
12:42.57Vincent20100Two Wormy?
12:43.03Vincent201000_o
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12:44.45WormyThe memetic war is coming
12:45.19Wormyhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329851.500-in-our-world-beyond-nations-the-future-is-medieval.html
12:45.31OluapWorkerYou posted this already
12:46.02WormyBut I timed out
12:46.09Wormydidn't know if it posted or not
12:46.19Tek0516Wormy: I was outside the room. Still am, 10 minutes after it was supposed to start.
12:46.35WormyOh no, is your lecturer late?
12:46.39Wormylol
12:49.00Tek0516Well actually we don't think there is a class today despite my schedule. >. <
12:49.49Tek0516Because this is supposed to be a lab, but this is also the first class and they've stated our labs don't start until the 15th...
12:54.17Tek0516Nope, no class. >.<
12:54.33Tek0516Woke up at 7am for nothing.
12:58.33Tek0516~test
12:58.33infobotwell, test is not funny
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13:12.39GhelaeI was on Spore, starting to make a scene to illustrate the city of Qafepiq to change it from being a piece of character backstory to an actual feature of the Civverse. And then my bedroom had a power cut.
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13:14.30HachimanGhelae: Damn, that's nasty
13:15.27GhelaeYeah. Fortunately, I hadn't got very far, and all of the buildings I made I had made yesterday.
13:15.57GhelaeAnd even more fortunately, it was just a temporary power cut. The last time my computer suddenly went dead, it was a few years ago, and I had to get a new one.
13:16.11OluapWorkeryick
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13:36.53XhoOluapWorker: quoted
13:38.05OluapWorkerKithworto - wasnt me i swer
13:41.13Wormy_awayGhelae:  That reminds mem I must plug my PC to my surge socket thing
13:41.39Wormy_awayCan't lose £1200 of a computer
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13:45.37Wormy_awayHow could they plan on dumping mud on the Great Barrier Reef?  Disgusting http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26137#.VAhe4fldV8E
13:49.40XhoI'm beginning to get fed up with this illness now
13:49.59XhoJust been feeling consistently shit for almost a week now
13:50.03OluapWorker_zat was not medicine
13:54.57XhoNeed something to do
13:56.01Xhopreferably nothing mind boggling since I still have a headache
13:56.47XhoOluapWorker_: It almost looks like that Hachi's to do list is the list you made for him to do
13:56.49OluapWorker_do dis mind bogglin thing
13:57.05OluapWorker_Xho: That's exactly what it is
13:57.11XhoJesus Christ
13:57.20XhoFuck me running if you ever did that to me I'd kick you into the sun
13:57.38OluapWorker_I have his permission to do this
13:57.48XhoWell I gathered that
13:58.03XhoThat and if you did do one for me I'd never do it anyway because my laziness is infinite
13:58.08OluapWorker_I wouldn't have to do dis if he finished paegs
13:58.20Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Random_Things#Xho.27s_Items_of_Itemness Have you seen this yet
13:58.27OluapWorker_Yes
13:58.29OluapWorker_Silly stoof
13:59.06OluapWorker_It feels like all descriptions are made by Santorakh even when he's not mentioned
13:59.11XhoPretty much
14:05.55XhoSporeWiki Fiction Universe, as narrated by Santorakh
14:06.05Xho"The Everything Parable"
14:06.20OluapWorker_"Once upon a time, there was space. And cheese. The end."
14:06.49XhoAnd literature was born
14:07.20OluapWorker_One thing you can do is write about these I'quatas doods
14:07.24OluapWorker_I'm yet to learn who they are
14:07.55Xhorite
14:08.04Xhodey orcs
14:08.06Xhofrom orc land
14:08.10OluapWorker_urc
14:08.31XhoNow I'm imaging some poorly drawn orc labelled 'urc'
14:08.40XhoLike Spoderman
14:09.00OluapWorker_olol
14:09.11OluapWorker_Urc - fug
14:10.06XhoUrc - fak u oloop
14:10.35OluapWorker_Urc thee illiterate orc
14:10.38OluapWorker_the*
14:10.53OluapWorker_So illiterate I make spelling errors when typing about him
14:10.55XhoReminds me of an Easter Egg in Oblivion
14:11.15OluapWorker_wot dis
14:12.17XhoThere's a dead troll under a bridge which has a note which has a really poorly written note with it
14:12.37XhoFrom the wiki page it says "Mee wurst troll evurr nobuddy pay brijj tole me nott sceary enuf mee gett drunc an kil sellf troll droun"
14:12.47OluapWorker_olol
14:13.06OluapWorker_Pelagrios' fate
14:14.25XhoThere's lots of weird shit in Oblivion
14:15.31XhoIt's a game you should play if you ever feel like it
14:15.56OluapWorker_I hear good things about it
14:15.56XhoI'd say it's on par with Skyrim for the quests and everything
14:16.01AdmiralPandaXho: I think I know where Santorakh's obsession with cheese comes from
14:16.07AdmiralPandascratch that, I know for certain
14:16.13OluapWorker_I often see people say it's ebtter than Skyrim
14:16.33XhoI've played Oblivion more than I've played Skyrim that's for sure
14:16.40AdmiralPandaCHEESE FOR EVERYONE! Wait, no, scratch that. Cheese for no-one. That can be just as much of a celebration too if you don't like cheese, true?
14:16.51XhoAdmiralPanda: Bingo
14:16.52AdmiralPanda- Sheogorath, Daedric Prince of Madness
14:16.55OluapWorker_Slowpoke
14:17.07XhoBingopoke
14:17.21XhoYou get the Shivering Isles DLC which is really weird in places
14:17.37AdmiralPandaTo be perfectly honest, I never really put much thought into it
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14:17.46Xhoi.e. you can make this Argonian angry and she starts running around a rock shouting "NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI NI"
14:17.51AdmiralPandabut the moment you mentioned Oblivion it clicked
14:17.55OluapWorker_olol
14:18.03MonetHi
14:18.23OluapWorker_Janos - eat shit                     Earath - NI NI NI NI NI NI NI
14:18.30XhoI will say now Oblivion is thousands of times more buggy than Skyrim though
14:18.36AdmiralPanda^
14:18.44AdmiralPandaand the skin colours… UGH but also hilarious at the same time
14:18.54XhoOften to funny consequences but it can really mess up your game in certain place
14:18.58Xhocertain places*
14:19.01MonetNot jsut the skin colours...the faces altogether
14:19.10MonetEveryone looks like they have the mumps to me
14:20.08XhoThere's this one very weird looking guard in Oblivion
14:21.11XhoLooks like a failed anime character
14:21.47OluapWorker_Now I'm curious
14:21.52XhoThe only thing that unnerves me in Oblivion is the zombies
14:22.06AdmiralPandaohgod the zombies
14:22.08XhoI really do not like the zombies in Oblivion
14:22.09AdmiralPandathe fucking zombies
14:22.21XhoEspecially the Dread Zombies which are like the highest tier
14:22.27OluapWorker_Why dis
14:22.30XhoWell
14:22.39XhoZombies are actually walking decomposing corpses which is superheugh
14:22.42AdmiralPandacreepy as fuck + don't die + tons of damage + diseases
14:23.05XhoAnd Dread Zombies can take out an entire city if one's in there
14:23.18AdmiralPandaI learned conjuration magic just so I could cast a high enough Turn Undead spell to make them run away
14:23.25XhoEven by like level 45 they're still a pain in the ass
14:24.34OluapWorker_http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130306195341/elderscrolls/images/c/c3/Zombie.png these?
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14:24.49Xhongh yes
14:24.58OluapWorker_The wiki says they're weak to fire
14:24.58Wormy_awayIs this the failed anime character?  http://i.somethingawful.com/u/elpintogrande/oblivion3/part3_11small.jpg
14:25.08XhoWormy_away: No hur
14:25.08Technobliteratorhi
14:25.10Technobliteratorlol
14:25.16OluapWorker_dumba
14:25.19Technobliteratorya dad
14:25.20XhoThat's definitely a mod character since I've never seen that character in game
14:25.39XhoOblivion's Daedric Armour is awesome though
14:25.46Xhohttp://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff183/Loco_Buzz/600px-OB-item-Daedric_Armor.jpg
14:26.10Wormy_awayyes
14:27.15XhoOblivion's AI is a little funny though since it's like 2006 Bethesda AI
14:27.27XhoI mean 2011 Bethesda AI was clunky let alone 2006
14:27.54OluapWorker_Ngh, the AI
14:28.41OluapWorker_During one of those last Theives' Guild missions, in the mission where you get that nightwhatever armor, the elf who guides you through the cave decided to not progress
14:28.50OluapWorker_Then she turned back and made her way to the exit
14:28.56OluapWorker_I was so mad
14:28.57Xho"oh ok bye then"
14:29.11XhoOblivion's magic system though
14:29.22Hachimanolol
14:29.23XhoEnemies with magic are rare and usually underpowered compared to Skyrim's
14:29.56XhoAnd, granted what you do in game you can pretty much become far more powerful than the Dragonborn's magic
14:30.04AdmiralPandameanwhile in oblivion you can make the Heart Attack spell :P
14:30.07OluapWorker_I find magic quite boring in Skyrim
14:30.16Wormy_awayJapanese crawling robot.  I lolled.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glUnzzoFUxg
14:30.41OluapWorker_I find combat in general boring in Skyrim
14:30.43AdmiralPandaillusion is better in oblivion too because you have Chameleon as well as Invisibility
14:30.52OluapWorker_Enemies don't react to being attacked and every fight is mash button to win
14:31.21OluapWorker_At least some enemies have amusing quotes
14:31.25AdmiralPandabest spell ever: invis on self for 60 seconds, level 25 fury in 100 feet on self
14:31.25OluapWorker_YOU PICKED A BAD TIME TO GET LOST FRIEND
14:31.33XhoI think one spell pretty much sums up Oblivion
14:31.34AdmiralPandabecome invisible, watch all enemies fight each other to the death
14:31.37XhoFinger of the Mountain
14:31.38MonetI prefer Skyrim's melee combat system compares to some RPGs tbh.
14:31.57AdmiralPandaXho: Try Wizard's Fury
14:31.59MonetIt means I don't have a hotbar full ove moves
14:32.17AdmiralPandaor Heart Attack, for that matter
14:32.49Xhohyr
14:32.52OluapWorker_TIME TO END THIS LITTLE GAME *dies in two hits*
14:33.05XhoOluapWorker: There's a spell in Oblivion that does "Shock Damage 200pts in 10ft on Target"
14:33.10XhoHas an absurd cost though
14:33.37MonetD&D close combat: You can still win with normal attacks against an evenly-powered foe. WoW close combat "Oh, yo're using autoattack. That's cool, hope you like chugging health potions"
14:34.11XhoIt's pretty much so high that even mastery in Destruction and shitloads of Fortify Magicka thingamajigs probably won't get you there
14:34.24AdmiralPandaXho: Wizard's Fury does 210 damage across three elements, and it's an expert spell that costs 238 mana to cast
14:34.38XhoThat's mad
14:34.45XhoInsta-kill everywhere
14:34.50AdmiralPandayup
14:35.06MonetI always laugh whenever I kill a dude mid-sentence saying "I've faced mudcrabs fiercer than you"
14:35.14XhoI think the Finger of the Mountain spell is something like 3500
14:35.17AdmiralPandathe problem with Finger of the Mountain is it actually costs more mana to cast than the same spell made in the spell creator
14:35.33AdmiralPanda200 points in 10 feet on target is half the price in spellmaking
14:35.59XhoYeah that's an advantage over Skyrim actually
14:36.02XhoYou can make spells
14:36.10XhoCosts money but you can do it
14:36.28XhoGranted god-mode spells cost hundreds of thousands
14:36.54AdmiralPandaHeart Attack is best custom spell, drain crapton of stamina, drain crapton of health- if done right, the target falls to the floor, picks themselves up, then dies mid picking-self-up
14:37.18AdmiralPandaand it's a Restoration spell c:
14:37.31Xho"I might have overdone it on the morphine"
14:37.59XhoOluapWorker_: You also get the joys of Ayleid ruins
14:38.23AdmiralPandaRestoration is best damage magic early game, once you have access to spell making altar you can easily pump it up to drain ludicrous amounts of health in one second, which so long as it does more damage than the target has health, instantly kills them
14:38.24OluapWorker_wot dat
14:38.34AdmiralPandadey full of spooky scary skeletons
14:38.43OluapWorker_Count me interested
14:38.48XhoAyleid ruins are basically like Dwemer ruins
14:38.51XhoBut scarier
14:38.58MonetAnd more magical
14:39.04OluapWorker_Dwemer ruins were my least favorite dungeons in Skyrim
14:39.24AdmiralPandathey're basically precursor elf strongholds full of all varieties of undead
14:39.32AdmiralPandaand with lots of high-value loot even at level 1
14:39.43MonetI think the creepyness may have come from the fact the Ayleids had something of a hard-on for demon summoning.
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14:40.27XhoThe first Ayleid ruin you find in the game (which is literally a short walk across from the tutorial exit) is one of the largest in the game
14:40.38ImperiosHello, everyone
14:40.44OluapWorker_Hi
14:40.45Tek0516Hello
14:41.34XhoIf you see a fort called 'Sancre Tor', be prepared for a lot of pain
14:41.57XhoMucho undead
14:43.56XhoAnd if you get the Shivering Isles DLC you have the joys of the ruins there
14:44.22XhoThere are some exceptionally large and tough ruins there
14:44.35Wormy_awayMeteorite Flavoured Wine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN2qWyHNIhg&list=UUZWcMUTC1LCinAvbT4xW3EA
14:46.33Wormy_awaylol at name https://www.youtube.com/user/jackster330
14:47.06OluapWorker_I was gonna say Insomnia ruins but then I remembered we did visit these
14:47.15OluapWorker_And they also had spooky undead
14:47.46XhoIf you play Shivering Isles you'll pretty much get what Insomnia's going on about
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14:48.33JepardiHi
14:50.03XhoRight I better start with that I'quatas page
14:50.20OluapWorker_I'quatas, the race of urc
14:54.43MonetI wonder if its an indication if a baby stares at you for a few minues, turns away, then turns ot look at you again.
14:54.55XhoBabies always stare at me
14:55.07XhoEither I'm attractive or they notice I don't like them
14:55.11XhoThe latter is more likely
14:55.29OluapWorker_[baby intensifies]
14:55.38MonetIf they don't feel comfortable around you why would they keep looking?
14:55.45OluapWorker_I don't like babies
14:55.49OluapWorker_Or children in general
14:55.50MonetThat or they find you interesting for some reason
14:56.44MonetJudging by the way it was dressed I think it was a baby girl that was staring
14:57.08HachimanUgh making Future Hachi's model is a bitch
14:57.28OluapWorker_Future Hachi - cant handle the dong
14:58.10HachimanHis eyes are especially hard to work with
14:58.41MonetLike drawing attractive people, making models of attractive humanoids in spore is a pain.
14:58.49OluapWorker_Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1409842560080.jpg Kalcedia's reaction to Future Hachi
14:59.05HachimanI'd work with the Lagosi model but I don't want to have to recreate the outfit too much even though it's gonna be different
14:59.16HachimanOluapWorker_: ohgod
15:00.14OluapWorker_brb lunch
15:01.23MonetHachiman: Thinking about the way that the Nars interact with the universe, I think its possible Hachi could have encountered a Mali'nar Sarec from another universe.
15:01.59HachimanThat would be interesting
15:03.26HachimanUgh I had to move the hair to make the eyes look right and now I can't get the hair back to how I wanted it to look
15:05.23MonetThat's a pain.
15:05.34MonetIt is making me look forward to seeing how he will turn out though
15:08.40MonetHere's a chilling thought: Its highly possible that electornic paper in the DI is probably at *least* on-par with the best PCs of today...or possibly several times more powerful.
15:09.21MonetAnd they use it lie we do: They'll write on it, roll it up, tear it and throw it in the bin
15:09.27Monetlike*
15:09.45XhoElectronic paper?
15:10.18MonetLike a tablet but its a sheet of paper.
15:10.38GhelaeFlexible electronics, basically.
15:12.37MonetXho: Do you remember when Nu visited that gun shop on Araveene and he looekd though a catalogue?
15:12.41XhoYeah
15:13.02MonetHe was reading from a sheet of electronic paper.
15:13.50XhoI see
15:14.10Tek0516Ok, NOW it's almost time for my first university lecture. XD
15:14.52MonetI recall the gun shop clerk was able to browse inventory levels for Nu's choices by using a wifi connection between the paper and his countertop PC.
15:15.26MonetConnecting to the internet with a sheet of paper.
15:16.52MonetDARPA would probably pull strings with the CIA to pull off some global conspiracy to get their hands on something like that.
15:18.22OluapWorker_Back
15:19.14MonetHi
15:19.21XhoThat was quick
15:20.07Wormy_awayMonet:  Make the flexible electronics room temperature superconducting quantum computers
15:20.37Wormy_awayWe are very close to having epaper and wearable computing
15:20.52MonetWormy_away: That makes things even mroe extreme
15:21.05Wormy_awayIndeed, all for the better!
15:21.14MonetIt means that each sheet of paper might have more computing power than all of New York City.
15:21.30GhelaeExtreme is good, compared to this 200-millennium-old empire having 22nd century technology.
15:21.52MonetOkay that is a very good point.
15:22.35MonetReading on emergent technologies I'm starting to wonder how underadvanced the Imperium probably is.
15:22.46MonetWhen one cosider's its age
15:23.32Wormy_awayI do wonder if we don't fully realise how advanced our civilisations are.  I generally go for as extreme as possible and not worry about bering OP
15:23.43Wormy_awayI hate the term OP now
15:23.55MonetYou have a point.
15:23.56Wormy_awayIt was all about prestige
15:24.29Wormy_awayNow I only consider things OP if they are overused badly or just there to belittle
15:25.26GhelaeIt's often been suggested that significant technological development is a few-thousand-year blip in a species' history; realistically, by the year 10,000, anything that we currently know not to defy the laws of physics should be acheivable, and probably a lot of other things on top of that too.
15:25.29MonetI mean...until recenly I made the Draconis themselves look like they had yet to begin their postsapient revolution. They probably had already had a Singularity but they *still* viewed genetic engineering on themselves as frowny-face-bad
15:25.57MonetSame for augmentation.
15:26.55Wormy_awayI'm sure even in the coming decades, things like spintronics and biotech will create technological applications we haven't thought of yet
15:27.29Wormy_awayAnd tier 2 seems to be the point that emphasises what Ghel just said
15:27.41MonetI think despite how much we've tried ot explain things, I think there is still some underestimation on the power of the tier scale.
15:28.32Tek0516No one expected cell phones.
15:28.33Tek0516Well, modern smart phones.
15:28.45Wormy_awayOr augmented reality
15:29.30Wormy_awayInstead of androids, ugly cyborgs and VR, we have swarm robotics, brain-outsourced crowd devices and AR!
15:29.53MonetGiven the pace of technology maybe those big-clunky remote holocommunicators are an example of zeerust?
15:30.07Tek0516gtg.
15:30.09Wormy_awayprobably
15:30.26MonetIts possible that by 2100 or 2200 we could talk to people via wearing contact lenses
15:30.40MonetAnd it would be like standing in the room with them.
15:31.02Wormy_awayI think Google are already working on e-lenses :P
15:31.24Wormy_awayI think we might have e-telepathy or maybe even e-qualia by then
15:31.56Wormy_awayand techno-dugs to modify internal experiences so we can feel like what it is to be bat
15:31.59Wormy_away*drugs
15:32.56MonetThe future 100 years fom now, let alone 200,000 could be mindblowing
15:33.11Wormy_awayI can't wait
15:33.41MonetGiven advances in medical technology its possible we could all see the dawn of 2100
15:34.15Wormy_awayI hope we achieve sustained nuclear fusion, microwave beamed satellites and space mining in the coming decades.  Possibly geoengineering so I can feel less guilty about the Earth.
15:34.53MonetAs far as I am aware the estimated date for possible nuclear fusion is ~2050
15:36.04Wormy_awayI'd also like to see nanomedicine (none replicators though), quantum computers, and manned trips to Mars in my life.
15:37.11MonetMaybe our issue of underestimation of the tier level here comes from something innate ot most science fiction; most people cannot realiably say what advancements could be made or when exactly they would come.
15:37.18Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:I%27quatas_Orc Done
15:37.20Wormy_awayWhen space is colonised, I could breathe a sigh of relief.  Mankind's future would probably be secure unless a very unlikely astrophysical threat occurs endagering the system.
15:37.52MonetIts what dates stuff like the Alien Franchise, Star Trek, Starship Troopers and so on.
15:38.28Wormy_awayIts true, the tier scale is a skeleton, I can only guess what supertech might be possible from variables of energy, time, and information, on scales of space colonisation.
15:38.34MonetI mean. when the former two came out their future monitors were using cathode-ray-tubes.
15:38.54MonetAnd Alien, which came out after strar trek, had monochrome monitors
15:39.05Wormy_awayAnd it gives no clues as to the complex machines, and new applications, and new discoveries
15:39.34OluapWorker_They seem interesting
15:39.48OluapWorker_I like how they get along with dwarves
15:40.04OluapWorker_And olol Pelagrios
15:40.59HachimanI like them, especially how they're more sophisticated than other orcs
15:40.59Wormy_awayIt is a pure fantasy but I hope life extension technologies make me live long enough to become a machine and live to see the far future, hopefully one of contuining technological progress and discovery
15:41.51Wormy_awayJust long enough to replace neuron by neuron with an immortal machine, drytech or wetware I don't know
15:42.38MonetWormy_away: I think this is one issue with making a high-tier fiction. As Xho said on a forum that something about tier 2s makes them innately more interesting than tier 4s or 3s, but technology is one of the biggest problems with making something that advanced; it becomes increasingly impossible to tell what it considers cutting-edge compared to modern technology.
15:42.50Wormy_awayThen hundreds of years down the line, I'll end reincarnated into new people so its not true immortality.
15:43.42Wormy_awayIt is, yes
15:44.15Wormy_awayThough I would like to point out, Tier 4's and 3's can be imagined in very varied ways
15:44.32Wormy_awaySuch variation doesn't occur again until tier 1
15:44.44Wormy_awayThat could be a failure of writer's imaginations though
15:44.53MonetHere's a crazy thought: Maybe the Draconis already -are- postsapient, but their augmentations are so fine-tuned, so in sync with their organic bodies that its hard ot tell?
15:45.03Wormy_awayI would think so
15:45.28Wormy_awayI also think its easily possible that Draconis have highly advanced aesthetics
15:45.59Wormy_awaySo while their tech stayed about the same until recently, their artforms developed beeyond our comprehension
15:46.07Monetindeed.
15:46.27Wormy_awayMakes sense for a very art-based fiction :D
15:46.50MonetMaybe though their more-advanced eyes they can see facets of their art or their interior design that we jsut don't have the eyes to see.
15:47.29Wormy_awayTheir brains might have even changed internally to better understand aesthetic meanings by other artists
15:47.29MonetFor instance while we see soem patterned wallapaper, they see patterns fine enough to be the thickness of a human hair *and* a hidden inspiring picture.
15:47.51Wormy_awayThey could see finer beauty
15:48.26MonetHmm
15:49.07Wormy_awayI just wrote this recently concerning tiers and technology http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation#Theoretical_technology_and_realism
15:49.23MonetPerhaps in a similar vein to how if a 15th century architect looks at the Gherkin he thinks "what the hell why would you build your tower like that!?" while a 21st century architect or engineer looks at it and sees it as a design marvel.
15:49.55MonetThe building is designed to be as aerodynamic as possible
15:50.19Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10428551_10153126129317067_2164496735339468246_n.jpg?oh=bb19de9b7e18b87e8fc68135ab1f51a2&oe=547F9003&__gda__=1417758485_0c997c106393182461ffea978de36590
15:50.35Wormy_awaylol
15:51.03MonetOr on a more persona lnote, no one can laugh at my dik-cities anymore because those buildings are far more aerodynamic (which is practical for buildings 2km tall) than our current gaint bricks.
15:52.12MonetOkay you can still lugh but don't expect anyone in the city to join you.
15:52.24XhoNu - [does the expected]
15:53.16MonetDraconis - Laugh all you like, those designs are brilliant.
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15:54.34ImperiosXho: Nice new orcs
15:57.51ImperiosHi everyone
15:57.54HachimanHai
15:59.29MonetOne of the things that I think keeps me drawn to the wiki is the possibility that the level of technology we write about is not restricted by current understanding of "high tech" (as I indicated Weyland-Yutani in the Alienverse primarily uses cathode ray monitors as computer screens even centuries in our future)
15:59.34OluapWorker_hi
16:00.05ImperiosMonet: Our tech is basically "maagik snort snort"
16:00.44MonetWell i've tried to explain my own tech.
16:02.59HachimanI gotta say that despite pushing 600,000 years, Future Hachi looks pretty good hur
16:03.50OluapWorker_He's a shapeshifter, if he wanted to turn himself into a hot 20 year old woman he could
16:03.57MonetThe present day is in the middle of the really exiting part in the progression of Moore's Law.
16:05.04MonetThanks to internet databases the knowledge of what's being prototyped is not restricted to people within the scientific community.
16:08.30MonetImperios: At tier 2 and 1, technology does begin to blur itself with magic.
16:11.23MonetAm I being overambitious with this idea?
16:12.58ImperiosDunno
16:16.42MonetI headlined Wrath of the Imperium with "I wonder if I underestimate my own fiction"...didn't realise that it was the case in most apects of the Imperium
16:17.18OluapWorker_Xho: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1409799214455.jpg ssssssssss
16:17.27Xhongh
16:20.07Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649723_809473849099475_6816014088823080402_n.jpg?oh=173b45fad5601287b2575f0c07a5d1ca&oe=54778259&__gda__=1417350625_9578dbaa2137ebb4f894de0094124657
16:22.21Monet...If a single sheet of DI electronic paper has the same culmulative computing power as every computer in New York City...how powerful are their shipboard AI cores?
16:22.55OluapWorker_"how do i cat"
16:23.12MonetI think I'm frying my brain trying ot imagine it
16:27.21HachimanRight so Future Hachi's outfit is done
16:27.34OluapWorker_show dis
16:27.56MonetYeah, you have me hooked.
16:29.17Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/jz9aitq.png?1 I might change it, dunno
16:29.34OluapWorker_dat beard
16:29.40OluapWorker_I like it
16:29.48MonetHe's grown a beard.
16:30.03MonetANd I like the shoulders on his jacket.
16:30.09OluapWorker_I expected more golden but it's still really good
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16:30.30Imperioshm... what facial features do Indian people usually have? as in nose shape etc
16:30.36HachimanWell I imagine he'd prefer to keep himself not too outstanding
16:30.43MonetI like to think it would be difficult to comprehend Hachi's true form if he's as powerful as you two say
16:30.45The_RandomnessHello everyone
16:30.45HachimanModesty after all
16:30.46OluapWorker_randum
16:30.57OluapWorker_His true form is still a rabbit Rianth
16:31.43HachimanI personally like his trousers, which look really good in the editor
16:31.48ImperiosHachiman: Wow, he looks quite nice
16:31.51MonetYeah but I don't think anyone could describehow handsome he looks
16:31.57ImperiosI imagine he'd look a bit less young though
16:32.08HachimanImperios: Shapeshifter hur
16:32.15OluapWorker_He looks old, what you on about
16:32.16MonetDevelani - I like all that curly hair you have...
16:32.23ImperiosTrue
16:32.34ImperiosOluapPlayer: Maybe it's the eyes dunno
16:32.44HachimanIt's hard to make him look so old without ruining the entire character hur
16:33.03HachimanOh yes, also note how he no longer has cybernetics
16:33.31OluapWorker_Reminder that he's also a tentacle monster
16:33.49Hachimanhur
16:34.03The_RandomnessWait, Hachi is also a giant tentacle monster?
16:34.06HachimanHachi has become the Japanese dream
16:34.14The_RandomnessI think I know what that implies. (lenny face)
16:34.18OluapWorker_Will become
16:34.52ImperiosClothovera - git to muh universe and take me
16:34.54HachimanIf you look at his trousers in the editor they look a bit... gimpy hur
16:35.10OluapWorker_Clothovera has her own Hachi already
16:35.19ImperiosTwo Hachis
16:35.20Imperiosgenius
16:35.22HachimanClotho - neva enuff hachis
16:35.30ImperiosAnyway
16:35.39OluapWorker_Kanna - zero is enuff hachis
16:35.44ImperiosWhat facial features do Indian people usually have? As in nose shape etc
16:35.52OluapWorker_Human
16:35.53ImperiosYes I know that Indian people are very diverse
16:35.55HachimanImperios: Burkas :p
16:36.02The_Randomness^dum
16:36.34ImperiosHachiman: I am pretty sure burkas are worn in Afghanistan, not India
16:36.45HachimanAfghanistan is in India, isn't it?
16:36.45MonetI was about to say
16:36.52The_Randomness...
16:36.56The_RandomnessNo, it is not.
16:36.56MonetAfghanistan =/= India
16:37.13MonetIndia is its own country.
16:37.22HachimanIndia's a subcontinent
16:37.25ImperiosYou might be confusing it with Pakistan
16:37.32HachimanProbably hur
16:37.37MonetIndia is a country and a subcontinent
16:37.54ImperiosAlthough the subcontinent is usually called Indostan
16:37.57ImperiosI think
16:38.17MonetPakistan - Not all of this subcontinent is India you kniow!
16:38.19The_RandomnessImperios: There really isn't a simple answer to your question due to how varied India is
16:38.30ImperiosPakistan = Western Muslim India, India = Eastern Hindu India
16:38.42ImperiosThe_Randomness: Yeah I know
16:38.51ImperiosOkay, let's go with Northern Indian facial features
16:38.53ImperiosAryan, you know
16:39.06MonetIt might be because there are a lot of -Stans around there
16:39.10HachimanBut
16:39.10HachimanAryans are blonde and blue-eyed
16:39.12HachimanAnd white hur
16:39.19The_Randomnessdum
16:39.23ImperiosHachiman: Well, many Indians have blue eyes
16:39.29ImperiosAryans = North Indians actually
16:39.32MonetPakistan, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan etc.
16:39.34HachimanOh right
16:39.34The_RandomnessThat's because Hitler was an idiot, and perverted the word
16:39.35ImperiosNorth Indians, Persians, Afghanistani people etc
16:39.38ImperiosYep
16:40.06ImperiosBasically Middle Eastern people related to Europeans
16:40.08HachimanOluapPlayer: Would Hachi's name still be "Ahlariomákaarioh"?
16:40.12OluapWorker_Yes
16:40.19Hachimanrite
16:40.20OluapWorker_That's his Thoi'olerthae name
16:40.35The_RandomnessThat's a mouthful, if you know what I mean.
16:40.42OluapWorker_eet shit
16:40.46The_Randomnesslel
16:41.02ImperiosHachiman: >blonde blue eyed http://m2.i.pbase.com/g1/82/643382/2/110109182.9Ljzv5wm.jpg "bitch please"
16:41.13Hachimandat not blonde
16:41.20Imperios...true
16:41.48ImperiosMonet: Stan is like "-land" or "-ia" basically
16:41.57MonetI know
16:42.04HachimanI need some new titles for Future!Hachiman
16:42.06ImperiosIt comes from the Persian word meaning "country"
16:42.09HachimanSuggestions pls
16:42.12ImperiosThere's a reason "stan" sounds like "stand"
16:42.24OluapWorker_"Gardin's Toy"
16:42.29Hachimankek
16:42.36OluapWorker_What's wrong with the current titles?
16:42.49MonetHe has a lot of titles already.
16:42.53HachimanMost/All of them are from myself hur
16:43.05OluapWorker_I don't see how that's a problem
16:43.44HachimanWell I'll be deleting a few of them anyway
16:43.57MonetImperios: I rememebr Sebastian Shaw from X-Men first class pointed out how stupid and superficial Hitler's master race idea as. Then again he existed in a universe where superpowered mutants were real.
16:44.00HachimanTo make room for my favoured ones and tidy up his infobox
16:45.17MonetI find it funny he was talking about genes and genetics in 1941/4 - a few years years before the idea of DNA would ocme about.
16:45.47MonetOh wait nevermind
16:46.06MonetGenes were theory quite a while before DNA
16:46.29MonetI forgot about Gregor Mendel :>
16:47.03ImperiosHachiman: Lightbringer Eminent
16:47.06ImperiosThat was random hur
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16:48.09MasterMachineELLOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo
16:49.05MonetI was surprised ot read that before Hitler eugenics was a decent idea. Then again maybe proponents didn't consider performing it by killing everyone who wasn't already bearing the traits they liked?
16:49.24HachimanTesla was a supporter of the eugenics movement
16:49.48OluapWorker_bbl
16:49.57ImperiosMonet: What I like is because of Hitler's idea that his people were the most intelligent and stuff a lot of actual talented German people (whether Jewish, Germanic or otherwise) *left* his country
16:50.17Hachimanala Einstein hur
16:50.17MonetTHen again I think Nazi Germany were being stupid when they decided they wanted to condense 10+ generations of social evolution into one.
16:50.27The_Randomness^
16:51.48MonetIts ironic that despite being a social darwinist, Hitler decided that the best way to advance Germany was for the government to choose what was culturally right.
16:52.01ImperiosHachiman: Him and tons of German artists and filmmakers because DEGENERATE ART JEWISH PHYSICS FEGELEIN FEGELEIN
16:53.00MasterMachine...
16:53.54MonetAnd scientists who -did- stay behind (like Werner Heisenberg) considered sabotaging Germany's research efforts
16:54.19MasterMachineSo basically Nazi Germany was screwed no matter how it went?
16:54.33HachimanPretty much
16:54.41HachimanFucking with the Soviets got it in the end
16:55.05MasterMachineThey never really had the resource base to take over the world either though.
16:55.30HachimanAye, there were a lot of regiments still using horses rather than vehicles
16:57.42MonetHorses' fuel lines don't freeze in Russian weather
16:58.57HachimanHorses do though hur
16:59.25ImperiosUnless they're Russian horses
17:00.11MasterMachinexD
17:00.22HachimanAnd the Germans didn't have Russian horses :p
17:00.33MasterMachinePoor Germans
17:00.44MasterMachineDidn't more people die in Russia from cold than anything else?
17:01.23The_RandomnessMore like from Stalin sending them off to labor camps and whatnot if they had a brain in their head
17:01.45The_RandomnessHe made Hitler look like a playground bully
17:04.43ImperiosMasterMachine: Not all of Russia is cold :P
17:05.56ImperiosThe_Randomness: They're equally despicable to me
17:06.55The_RandomnessYeah, they're both complete monsters, it's just that Stalin killed far more of his own people than Hitler ever did.
17:07.05The_RandomnessThat's what I meant to say
17:07.16ImperiosHis own? As in?
17:08.34The_Randomnesshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Calculating_the_number_of_victims
17:09.20ImperiosTrue
17:09.48ImperiosStalin had a larger playground hur
17:09.54The_RandomnessTrue
17:10.09The_RandomnessHe was also less selective in choosing who to execute
17:10.59ImperiosTrue
17:11.22ImperiosStalin was more of an equal-opportunity slaughterer hur
17:11.30ImperiosHe had his share of ethnic purges though
17:14.37MasterMachineImperios: Siberia takes offense to that, it's cold enough for all of Russia :P
17:15.39ImperiosMaster: By that logic USA are cold because Alaska
17:16.42MasterMachinelol
17:17.08MasterMachineBut we also have Florida & Arizona, so it cancels out lol
17:17.30The_Randomnessomg dried apricots are amazing
17:17.37MasterMachine...
17:17.42MasterMachine-claps for Randomness-
17:17.43MasterMachine:P
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17:20.40ImperiosMasterMachina: We have Caucasus
17:20.44Imperiosyour argument is invalid
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17:24.32MasterMachinelol
17:24.44dromw0t
17:24.58dromu havin a giggle m8?
17:25.34MasterMachinehey
17:25.44MasterMachineImperios: I shall not speak of Caucasus...
17:25.59ImperiosВах зарэжу
17:26.01ImperiosКавказ сила
17:26.05MasterMachine...
17:26.13MasterMachine-throws not-English language at Imperios-
17:26.16MasterMachine:P
17:26.33Imperioshttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140904172556/spore/images/0/03/Pheonas_the_Outcast_God.png Speaking of not-English people, have Pheonas
17:26.59MasterMachineVery nice
17:27.05MasterMachineI wish I could make stuff in spore xD
17:28.12dromImperios: Demn elbow hair
17:30.05HachimanNice, I love the multi-armed aesthetic since I'm a sucker for Hindu art
17:30.56MonetImperios: That face is amazing
17:31.31ImperiosHachiman: Pheonas - more arms to punch u
17:31.32Hachimanhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140904163818/spore/images/3/3a/FutureHachiman.png Meanwhile here is one of the most powerful Essence users in existence in 600,000 wiki years and a god in his own right
17:31.44dromhttp://i.imgur.com/TF3dzYb.png
17:31.59ImperiosPheonas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8_Q1Xni_kU
17:32.16MonetHachiman: Teremva - Hominahominahomina...
17:32.28Hachimanolol
17:33.05Wormy_awayWhat I'm about to post is grizzly, but I've found another uncanny Soviet-DCP connection  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/GolodomorKharkiv.jpg  http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110531001919/spore/images/3/39/Spore_2011-05-31_01-11-52.png
17:33.15Wormy_awayIn both cases, peeople pass by oblivious
17:33.32Imperioshttps://slm-assets0.secondlife.com/assets/6179213/lightbox/BSN-Tiny-Itty-Bitty-Slingshot-Monokini-Black-Red-White.jpg?1346453894 For some reason, searching for "tiny itty bitty men" shows this
17:33.45ImperiosAh, the Golodomor
17:33.52Hachimanhttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140821193046/spore/images/0/09/ModernHachi.png Compare to dickweed hur
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17:34.18OluapWorkerBack for a little bit
17:34.20MonetWell, time to clear my browser history
17:34.27MonetHi
17:34.33MasterMachinelol
17:34.37MasterMachineHi OP
17:34.40HachimanHai
17:34.50OluapWorkerDid I miss much:
17:34.52OluapWorker?
17:34.59MasterMachineYou missed everything.
17:35.01ImperiosGolodomor is basically an excuse for Ukrainians to complain about evil Russians opressing them :P
17:35.07Imperios*oppressing
17:35.08HachimanNot much no
17:35.23HachimanWell actually Imp made this http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140904172556/spore/images/0/03/Pheonas_the_Outcast_God.png
17:35.25OluapWorkergit to editin Roshiman
17:35.40ImperiosI mean, it's not that it didn't happen, but the entire country was starving and oppressed back then, and Ukrainians weren't targeted specifically IMO
17:35.47HachimanAnd I was comparing the pics of Modern Hachiman and Future Hachiman hur
17:35.59ImperiosNot to mention that it was the Stalinist government and not Russia as we know it
17:36.52MasterMachine...
17:37.08HachimanI think its funny how one of the wiki's biggest butt-monkeys gets to become a god hur
17:39.04MasterMachineSo
17:39.04HachimanNow I need to divide 600 thousand years of history for stuff that Hachi did hur
17:39.11MasterMachineDayum
17:40.19MasterMachineYou know what I find funny? All these nations that are like millions of years old. Over the course of a million years a species would literally evolve into something else, so how could they have a single coherent government for such a long period of time?
17:40.31MasterMachine(on the wiki mind you)
17:40.45TekDroidI don’t see why it's impossible.
17:41.12TekDroidStable for the whole time is unlikely, but those probably reboot it amd/or keep ot going
17:41.21HachimanHumans have been around for roughly a million or so years and the foundations of our current government can be traced back to our prehistory
17:41.30Xho200,000 years really Hachi
17:41.33MasterMachineWell, think about humans - given a million years in space we'd literally split into dozens new species that arre slightly different due to environmenal differences
17:41.44HachimanXho: y not 600,000
17:41.57MonetHachiman: Humans aren't that old
17:42.07MonetAnd he was referring ot how long humans have been around
17:42.11MasterMachineHumans in different parts of the SAME PLANET have been evolving into different races and we've only been planet-spanning for like... what 100,000 years at most?
17:42.17HachimanOh right hur
17:42.55MasterMachineGive it another million years and humans alone would probably splinter into a dozen difference species, even if we never leave earth
17:42.58MonetEvery European and American government can trace its culture and traditions back to Ancient Rome and possibly Ancient Greece.
17:43.06MasterMachineSo how can a giant, interstellar empire do the same thing.
17:43.09dromMasterMachine: http://i.imgur.com/HDkTNJf.png
17:43.33Hachimanohgodlol
17:43.51MasterMachinedrom: omglol
17:44.03MasterMachineThat is the best thing I've ever seen related to Hitler
17:44.27XhoI think it's difficult to find a good thing related to Hitler
17:44.40MonetHe liked dogs
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17:44.48TekDroidYou'd have the various colonies of humanity intermingling a lot though.
17:44.50OluapWorkerNot gonna bother logging up the op
17:45.01MonetDoes being a dog-lover count as something good about Hitler?
17:45.19HachimanHe loved his wife and kids
17:45.42OluapWorkerWe went from old man bunny to Hitler
17:45.44OluapWorkerAlright
17:45.51MasterMachineTekDroid - The assorted races of humans on earth interact a lot but we're still dividing into difference races due to location
17:46.04MasterMachineNow buff that up to galactic-scale and a few million years
17:46.24MasterMachineIts biologically impossible for them to remain a single species short of cloning
17:46.30HachimanNow all of you gimme stoof that Hachi could have done throughout 600,000 years pls
17:46.44XhoMasturbated for 599,999 years
17:46.46OluapWorkerI gave you stoof already how about you write that
17:46.49MasterMachineHachiman: built the muthaf*cking pyramids.
17:46.58MasterMachinewhich I just spelled wqrong
17:47.00MasterMachinedamnit
17:47.01MasterMachine-_-
17:47.16MasterMachineWait did I?
17:47.17HachimanMasterMachine: Except Hachi was born in 2777 :p
17:47.17MasterMachineBAH
17:47.22MasterMachineI need to sleep more...
17:47.25MasterMachine#TimeMachine?
17:47.26MasterMachine:P
17:47.29MasterMachineHmmm
17:47.31MonetHe built some alien pyramids?
17:47.34OluapWorkerTime doesn't flow in the Realm of Dreams -> Hachi masturbates there -> technically masturbates forever
17:47.34MasterMachinelol
17:47.46HachimanAww yiss
17:47.53dromHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/RVNJFvK.png
17:48.14OluapWorkerHe's so beta he has to fap in an alien dimension to have fun
17:48.14HachimanSonhadromerith - dis place looks whiter dan usual
17:48.26TekDroidO.o
17:48.26MonetBecomes God -> all he does is masteurbate
17:48.34TekDroido.O
17:48.41OluapWorkerMacin - i didnt train you for this
17:48.45XhoSantorakh - god fukkin dammit                     get it
17:48.48MonetOr...
17:48.53OluapWorkerhur
17:48.56MonetBecomes God -> stil lcan't get laid
17:49.17XhoI'm feeling so ill now I think I'm verging on the vomiting stage
17:49.24MonetEw
17:49.25OluapWorkerEugh
17:49.29HachimanXho: Do an Aztec two-step
17:49.44XhoHachiman: I don't want to scare my parents thanks
17:49.48OluapWorkerIf you've been ill so much, perhaps you should go to the doctor
17:49.54OluapWorkerMEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC
17:50.15TekDroidHachi becomes a dream god, doesn't he? He'll screw people's dreans.
17:50.21TekDroid*dreams
17:50.26XhoI've only been ill for three days
17:50.35XhoI've been worse for longer
17:50.35OluapWorkerTechnically, he can do that
17:50.52OluapWorkerBut he won't because Sonhadromerith would give him a multiverse of pain if het ried
17:50.54TekDroidHachi becomes a god -> all dreams become Hachi doing it
17:50.55XhoHachi becomes a dream god -> Finally gets the chance to make Kalcedia have a wet dream about him
17:51.13Xho-> Still doesn't work
17:51.18dromI actually had *cough* diarrhea when I caught the cold.
17:51.22HachimanKalcedia - didn't need sleep thx
17:51.26TekDroidO.o
17:51.37OluapWorkerFunny because we figured out Future Hachi will cockblock Kalcedia 100%
17:51.58Hachiman>Implying Kalcedia futa
17:51.59MonetI recall hearing he could kill her
17:52.05dromHachiman: Guide for handjob. http://i.imgur.com/jKp9Sqe.png
17:52.14XhoKithworto now being 1.2 million years old is just looking at Hachi going "stahp masturbating and go uplift life and not ur dik"
17:52.15OluapWorkerHe can but we figured out ways to make it work
17:52.17OluapWorkerDon't ask how
17:52.24MasterMachinelol drom
17:52.32OluapWorkerI might disconnect now
17:52.40HachimanNu ;-;
17:52.46drombai bai
17:52.48XhoNu - dafuq u want scrub
17:53.39MonetOluapWorker: Willpower?
17:54.09dromUgh, my brain says "Let's do fiction!" and my body says "Nah". And I can only utter out "Cunt" from my chest.
17:54.12MonetNow I just realised Hachi being a dream god means he'd be giving out the best sex ever.
17:54.43HachimanNah he's just so bad he has to use Essence to make it seem at least tolerable hur
17:54.51dromFurry sex.
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17:55.23MonetMakes sense why he's the god of fertility
17:55.24XhoKalcedia - i never asked for this
17:56.09HachimanIs the only hope the universe has against the Xhodocto -> Too busy masturbating in the Realm of Dreams
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17:56.22XhoKithworto - u stupid son of a bithc
17:56.26OluapPlayerEep eep
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17:56.33dromHachi should make sure to smother himself in flame retardant. Otherwise they will be selling godlike bunny ribs.
17:56.52XhoDrom: Only in the situation that Santorakh decides to make Nu the God of Cooking
17:57.02dromJa.
17:57.07OluapPlayerAnd bye again lel
17:57.14Hachimanfukn
17:57.19XhoNu - EAT UP YOU LITTLE SHIT *runs after Hachi with a steak knife*
17:57.38Xho602,803 AD sounds fun
17:57.52HachimanAye hur
17:58.02dromw0t
17:58.07dromI dun get it
17:58.13Hachimanbrb dinner
17:58.17XhoExcept there's probably only a handful of characters now that are still alive then
17:58.42MonetI feel so happy that I've turned an arbitrary point in the future into a possible future time period to explore.
17:59.19XhoThe only non-Xhodocto character of mine that would still be alive in the future then is Kithworto
17:59.55MonetXho: The point of 602,800 AD was that it was far enough in the future for the Milky Way to be completely different but close enough to the present ot still be familiar...sort of
18:00.18XhoKithworto - who these dums roamin about the place
18:00.38drom602,800 is the point where almost all civilizations are erased from existence?
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18:01.13dromAlso, biological immortality is possible. Look at those french flatworms.
18:01.49MonetIf any civs still exist, they'd be completely different by then
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18:02.17OluapWorkerI am of return
18:02.22dromHere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planarian
18:02.38dromThose amazing flatworms denies death and aging.
18:02.59dromCutting one in half, will result in two new ones.
18:03.33MonetIs that true or is it like worms where you will have one dying and one dead one?
18:04.19dromI read an article about it. They wont die unless you radiate them. Radiation kills the cells required to regenrate.
18:04.24OluapWorkerHachiman: >god of fertility
18:04.29OluapWorker>implications
18:04.54dromOluapWorker: Stop making me think that we are Hachi's sperms.
18:05.37MonetI stil lthink ou'll have one live and oen dead worm
18:06.10XhoHachi - cmon kithworto lemme make you fertile                   Kithworto - go fuk urself with a cactus u lagomorphic sex fiend
18:06.43dromMonet: You will always have the both alive.
18:06.51dromNo matter how you will cut them.
18:06.54OluapWorkerMu - what the fuck                      can you help me
18:06.58dromBut regenrating takes long time.
18:07.15dromSo, one or more will be "dead" until they are fully regenrated.
18:07.36Monethttp://www.livescience.com/38371-two-worms-worm-cut-in-half.html for flatowrms yes, you're right.
18:07.45XhoKithworot - no don't help him       he made his choice
18:08.01MonetButfor most earthworms the tail will die because no brain.
18:08.10OluapWorkerMu - dunt listen to him                    he's half god of evil
18:08.50OluapWorker600,000 years in the future -> Mu looks exactly the same
18:08.55XhoKithworto - heh
18:09.02MonetMu - *cries*
18:09.14OluapWorkerMu - girls like nostalgia right                                                right
18:09.25dromMonet: Yup, the tails gets a new mind.
18:09.31dromA new life.
18:09.48XhoSantorakh - no            they like good food and drink                and sharply dressed men                 and cheese
18:09.54MonetIf Mu's hand is a death energy emitter, can he commit suicide by slapping himself i nthe forehead?
18:09.57OluapWorkerMu - fug
18:10.05XhoMonet: Philosowaptor
18:10.10ImperiosXho OluapWorker: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140904173129/spore/images/e/e0/Pheonas_the_Outcast_God_%28no_blur%29.png Seen this yet?
18:10.17OluapWorkerYes
18:10.19OluapWorkerMu's hand evolves into his own portable Xi'Arazulha
18:10.22dromXho: wut does dat mean?
18:10.25XhoImperios: Yeah, make a page so I can put a Caligaduro quote on there
18:10.32OluapWorkerBut Mu himself stays exactly the same forever
18:10.38Xhodrom: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/philosoraptor
18:10.55dromOh right.
18:11.08drommemes...
18:11.13MonetIf Mu does commit suicide like I can see hi mwith a VERY broad smile on his face.
18:11.42dromBrings me back to this moment of my new favorite game. http://i.imgur.com/22UcfWj.jpg
18:11.49XhoKithworto - *resurrects* stupid fuk u culda just asked me to remove it
18:12.38OluapWorkerMu - YO-FUCKING-LO
18:12.50OluapWorkerded
18:13.35dromrip
18:14.35dromMasterMachine: I haven't worked more than this since last night. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Umbra_Democratic_Union
18:21.21MasterMachinegtg sorry
18:21.41dromawh
18:21.58drom3 dead already.
18:22.05dromEbola must be here
18:22.21Wormy_awayHuh?
18:23.15dromOluapWorker, Technodroid and Mastermachine are dead, I suspect ebola.
18:24.21XhoE-bola
18:24.22Xhoheh
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18:27.08XhoOluapWorker: wat is dis crazy shi
18:27.18OluapWorkerwat
18:27.49Xhour disconnectin and shi
18:28.03dromI thought you were infected and died by the cause of e-bola.
18:28.06OluapWorkerI'm working with computer pieces
18:28.35OluapWorkerI have to turn it off to remove or insert cards
18:28.38WormyI'm not going to joke about Ebola.  Who knows, I might wind up getting it
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18:29.40XhoHachiman: Wait did you retcon Hachi's age
18:29.53OluapWorkerMore like we figured out Hachi's age
18:30.01Xho2777 would make him 26
18:30.07OluapWorkerYes
18:30.19XhoKithworto - bitch u need grow up
18:31.02OluapWorkerHe joined the Borealis War when he was 9 iirc
18:31.48XhoJesus
18:31.50XhoJesus mcstick
18:32.13OluapWorkerchildsoldiers.png
18:32.14Monet_Talk about child soldiers
18:32.19OluapWorkerkek
18:32.27dromOh god. The Soldier of the wet bed.
18:32.32Monet_SyNcHrOnIcItY
18:32.59XhoI'm gonna remake Septimus I think
18:33.24OluapWorkersiptimis
18:34.45Wormyscary murder http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29068391
18:35.21Xho>beheading
18:35.30XhoWhy do I get the feeling this is an Islamic extremist murder
18:35.42OluapWorkerTHERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
18:36.12XhoI'm tempted to go ALLAAAAAAAAAAAAAH but I won't although I just did
18:36.21Monet_Xho: Because ISIS are everywhere in the news right now?
18:36.32XhoPretty much yeah
18:38.46HachimanI just realized
18:38.54Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aNoWmx0_460s.jpg
18:39.03HachimanIf he wanted to, Hachi could turn into a swan and have sex with a hot woman like Zeus did
18:39.11dromBecause ISIS are a bunch of attention-whoring jihadist faggots.
18:39.13OluapWorkerThat's rape and bestiality
18:39.22Monet_Hachi - Honk hong *squeeze squeeze*
18:39.44Monet_That was bad taste
18:39.53Hachimanolol
18:40.53XhoSantorakh - hachi plz
18:41.18OluapWorkerSantorakh - as if that'd work on me                                                    it's not even made of cheese
18:42.29XhoI think even Santorakh would be at a loss for words if Hachi raped someone in the form of a swan
18:42.55OluapWorkerSantorakh - 10/10 let's do it with a duck now
18:43.02Xhooh my
18:44.01dromAnd let him cook it and serve it to their guests.
18:44.32OluapWorkerSantorakh - give yo cheese a good ol' rub
18:44.48XhoI'm done
18:44.55Hachimanohgodlol
18:45.14OluapWorkerHachi takes the form of a swan -> Santorakh takes the form of Ainsley Harriott
18:45.26dromHah.
18:45.51dromGuest - "what is dis filling"?
18:46.05OluapWorkerSantorakh - cheese                                       idiot
18:46.20dromBut, how what kind of cheese?
18:48.03drom"Cheese made on "bunny milk"."
18:55.45Xhohttp://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140904185508/spore/images/d/da/SeptimusNew.png There we go
18:56.10OluapWorkerKalarah - ghey
18:56.52dromXho: He looks really high.
18:57.00XhoWell he is 12'6"
18:57.15dromI mean as in for intoxication
18:57.20XhoI knew that
18:57.24XhoI just pissed on your bonfire
18:57.51drom*sniff* muh bonfire
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18:58.15The_RandomnessHello everyone
18:58.47dromHey.
18:58.53XhoOluapWorker: I wonder who Clotho will find more attractive, Septimus or Longinus
18:59.03OluapWorkerHachi
18:59.12XhoLonginus & Septimus - scuse us
18:59.37dromNah. Glory to Hachi.
18:59.57Monet_*fsssshhh*
19:00.07OluapWorkerThat's pretty weird considering they're both huge immortal dudes while she's a young adult who's 1.4m tall
19:00.29XhoWell I gathered Clotho had a bit of an obsession with Septimus' Orichalcum Elf-ness
19:00.47Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10514708_1515265592023844_115248986639635225_n.png?oh=ab3e28865b7d07fb7a3a6fdb5a629882&oe=547B3F7B&__gda__=1416451779_33f45b7049c06a828c666428c8bf4d61 "born into faggotry"
19:00.48dromHe's young, and short? Hachi is her perfect boyfriend.
19:01.04OluapWorkerHachiman: This kills the baby
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19:01.32OluapWorkerNow I'm picturing Septimus princess-carrying Clotho
19:01.33MasterMachineHey
19:01.37OluapWorkerSeptimus - literally carrying a kid around
19:01.57XhoLonginus - do you see any other orichalcum elf women around            no          shut up
19:02.17OluapWorkerDawn Wardens fall apart because everyone is fighting for Clotho's attention
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19:02.42MasterMachineHi Drodo
19:02.46DrodoEmpireHey, everyone.
19:02.47DrodoEmpireHi
19:02.49XhoA fight between Septimus and Longinus would get heated pretty fast
19:02.51XhoQuite literally
19:02.58HachimanWell yeah Sun Magic
19:03.03OluapWorkerSea Witch - shup *water gush*
19:03.17XhoLonginus blasts half of the Dawn Warden's fortress to bits because Septimus makes fun of his piercings
19:03.29OluapWorkerVixaatus - dis is y ur not a warden                       out
19:03.45Monet_Most people have a point where height goes from "impressive" to "scary."
19:04.13XhoWell I got the idea of the Orichalcum Elf stature from mostly classical sculptures
19:04.28Wormymore optimistic sci-fi http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28974943
19:04.55XhoSo most of them sort of range between ten - thirteen feet tall
19:05.14OluapWorkerTo be honest, before she got back to Hachi she kinda obsessed over any male not totally unattractive
19:05.19OluapWorkerExcept pelagrios cus drunkard
19:05.39XhoPelagrios - you are the one chick in this world who doesn't want a piece of this
19:05.50OluapWorkerSea Witch - i don't
19:05.51HachimanShe ended up falling in love with somebody who has a rabbit face
19:05.56XhoExcept quite possibly Turava and the Sea Witch
19:06.03OluapWorkerCorrection, a cute rabbit face
19:06.04XhoTurava because she's smarter than the average bar wench
19:06.07Monet_Clothovera - Bcuz bunnies are cute
19:06.13OluapWorkerAnd the Sea Witch because she's a bird monster
19:06.26XhoLonginus - Back in avarmaelium                  we ate rabbits
19:06.38Hachimanhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t34vzFY1GgI/T7GU46mIAaI/AAAAAAAABg0/3B3VqIT6McY/s1600/yawning+rabbit_teeth.png Hachi's sex face
19:06.44XhoThat would be a good introductory quote for Longinus to Hachi
19:06.48OluapWorkerSea Witch - stop perving my student she's as big as your knees
19:07.07XhoLonginus - u stop perving me den talking flamingo
19:07.13OluapWorkerHachiman: Clothovera - I think we need to see other people
19:07.19Monet_"avarmalium"...greedy hammer?
19:07.29Monet_maleium*
19:07.31HachimanHachi - :=o=
19:07.36OluapWorkerolol
19:07.43XhoMonet_: More or less
19:07.52Monet_Nice town name
19:08.00XhoIt was the name of the ancient/hidden/abandoned capital of the Orichalcum Elves
19:08.11Monet_How apt
19:08.15XhoWhich is still intact by the way
19:08.22XhoAlthough it's now Soldalatel's nest
19:08.34XhoSo if you want to go there you'll have to deal with a colossal fire goddess
19:08.50OluapWorkerSoldalatel - welcome, just clean your feet
19:09.02Monet_THen again I live near Oxford so I don't really have the highground here
19:09.05XhoKalarah - nah mate              Soldalatel - scuse me                 Kalarah - soz
19:09.15OluapWorkerNow I imagine Clotho comically going for people instead of Pelagrios
19:09.19OluapWorkerIIncluding Nd and Vixaatus
19:09.30XhoNd - i don't even have skin         the fuck is your problem
19:09.48XhoI wonder what Ndrthrhryr looks like under his helmet
19:09.51OluapWorkerClotho - dragon dil-                  Vixaatus - I WANT OFF THIS RIDE
19:10.02XhoReally, really really fucking ugly I imagine but I wonder what's been done to him under it
19:10.05Monet_http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/87/42/2874239_86d98db8.jpg anyone who leaves Oxford station sees this o nthe other side of the road
19:10.40XhoHis mask is likely bolted to his face and probably has tubes running in and out of his mouth
19:11.10OluapWorkerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:OluapPlayer#Stuff if you could all vote on this poll that'd be super neat
19:11.12XhoNo matter how ugly you are, you can never be as ugly as Vultusk though
19:11.22Xhoi alredi did shup
19:11.29OluapWorkerVultusk - mom said we were beautiful shup
19:11.43WormyStop Writing Dystopian Sci-fi http://www.wired.com/?p=1400831
19:11.51XhoVultusk's face under the mask is scary enough to make Kinmorunddraver shudder
19:11.52WormyMonet_ you might like that3
19:12.04OluapWorkerActually a super cute puppy
19:12.12XhoKinmorunddraver - so cute my spine tingles
19:12.18OluapWorkerMy sides
19:12.25XhoI can't really describe Vultusk's face
19:12.26Monet_OluapWorker: I'm clueless I'm sorry.
19:12.48XhoThink a decomposing mash up of multiple human skulls mixed with a few putrid tentacles and snake-like tongues
19:13.14OluapWorkerPelagrios - would still hit it                                    you a man or woman                       or both
19:13.22Monet_Screw it I voted
19:13.24XhoVultusk - we are unsure what the hell you are doing
19:13.34OluapWorkerPelagrios - cutting the                                                        seas
19:13.45XhoVultusk - we just           no
19:14.05Monet_"there is a truly alarming spike in the diagnosis of autism." >> Implying this is a bad thing.
19:14.09WormyThe filthy pessimists are bleeding out the woodwork in the comments section
19:14.24WormyWell
19:14.32WormyAs an autistic I must say
19:14.40XhoPelagrios - Little did you know, 'Sea-Cutter' wasn't for my ability for being one of the greatest pirates in the world. It was actually my ability for--               Riad - Lemme stop you right there
19:14.43WormyThere would be more war and confusion than ever
19:15.07WormyIf the world was run by autistics
19:15.26WormyOhgod now I'm venturing into pessimism
19:15.27OluapWorkerPelagrios - went o the roof of the world                       couldnt score a single lady                      not even a frost drake
19:15.31OluapWorkerto*
19:15.41HachimanImplying autism is a beneficial mutation
19:16.00XhoMakes me wonder whether Septimus had a love life in his time
19:16.01Monet_Wormy: Yes but autistics can als osee the world in ways some might not.
19:16.04XhoLikely did
19:16.09WormyIt certainly has benefits to people who use it constructively.
19:16.19HachimanIf there were more autistic people 4chan would have no more value to it hur
19:16.32OluapWorkerSeptimus blames it all on Longinus
19:16.46XhoLonginus - hey           don't knock the piercings              dey get girls
19:17.11Monet_I blame television for the sitgma that all autistics are apparently egocentric man-children who can't deal with change t osave their life.
19:17.22XhoI'm not sure how Longinus and Septimus would interact with each other
19:17.35WormyAutism doesn't mean we have a different perspective on things, I guess its both good and bad.  On the bad side, I think it creates more a gap between social understanding, and hence, a world run by autistics might be the same
19:17.38XhoTechnically Longinus did swear loyalty to the crown but was excommunicated from his order
19:17.46Wormy*Autism DOES mean
19:17.52WormyI keep doing that
19:17.59XhoWell, just got a news update that Joan Rivers has died
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19:18.16Wormy*Might NOT be the samew
19:18.17WormyHi
19:18.19Cyrannian|SemiHello.
19:18.42OluapWorkerLonginus - ur crown is gon. KNEELBEFORE PIERCINGS.
19:18.58OluapWorker~attack Cyrannian|Semi
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19:21.18XhoSeptimus - i ain't gonna kneel befor faggot piercings for faggots
19:21.42OluapWorkerLonginus - pleb taste
19:21.59WormyHachiman:  Is autism a mutation?  I thought it was developmental, not genetic
19:22.30HachimanIt's a biological fault thus a mutation
19:22.40XhoLonginus was probably the Orichalcum Elves' most powerful warrior at the time so probably divine intervention that he's still alive
19:22.52HachimanAnd not a Shiarchon hur
19:22.58XhoAnd not a Shiarchon no
19:23.16XhoIf Longinus was a Shiarchon we'd have a problem
19:23.34XhoIt would be almost like two Kalarahs running around
19:23.52XhoKind of why he's a neutral/good guy and not an evil guy
19:23.53OluapWorkerKalarah - look at his piercings                  look at his piercings and laugh
19:24.06XhoEven though he's probably the biggest dick going at the moment
19:24.07HachimanKalarah - >implying piercing faggot is gud as me
19:24.21WormyI wouldn't call it a fault Hachi.  I know people born with real diseases.  However, having slightly different neural wiring does have manageable disadvantages but there are some ways I'm proud of having aspergers.
19:24.43WormyThere is no model, pure human
19:24.44XhoPiercings were an intimidating accessory in Orichalcum Elf culture
19:25.18WormyHumanity is just a jumble of traits, some traits more dense in some people than others
19:25.19XhoIn the time of the Orichalcum Elves Constantius did want to put an end to Longinus but no guard was nuts enough to actually try and kill him
19:25.19HachimanDoes that include apadravyas
19:25.30XhoHachiman: Bend over and let's see
19:26.23XhoBeing a guard and trying to kill the most powerful warrior of the holiest order of the most powerful empire in the world
19:26.27XhoYou're either nuts or stupid
19:26.38OluapWorkerYeah but Constantius had OP void stoof
19:26.54XhoWell at that time Septimus was strong enough to overpower Constantius
19:27.17XhoLonginus is the kind of warrior that the Orichalcum Elves threw at Void Denizens
19:27.42OluapWorkerConstantius - im gonna kill his ass                             or maybe later
19:27.46XhoAlthough being dormant for 15,000 years he's probably forgotten how to use that power for the time being
19:28.38XhoConstantius has OP void stoof and Longinus has OP sun stoof
19:28.46XhoLittle do we know that Longinus' main weakness is sunscreen
19:28.57OluapWorkerLonginus - IT HURTS MY PIERCINGS
19:29.32XhoNo matter how OP Longinus is he can't be as OP as Kinmo
19:30.03XhoIn fact you could probably take down Longinus if he isn't that alert
19:30.09OluapWorkerKinmo - listen here u lil yellow pebble
19:30.10dromI pity this guy: http://i.imgur.com/4nFzpOA.jpg
19:30.53XhoOnce the Dawn Warden things get set up we should actually do that story on how Longinus gets stuck in
19:31.13XhoNot particularly the easiest story to write since Longinus is gonna need convincing that his hand is better helping the world than trying to reshape it
19:31.45OluapWorkerAnd Vixaatus won't accept him with that attitude
19:31.55XhoExactly hur
19:31.57OluapWorkerIt's  apotential story yeah
19:32.10OluapWorkerI'm gonna focus on getting the Dawn Wardens up once the vampire war is conluded
19:32.11OluapWorkerconcluded
19:32.34XhoI think most of it is that Longinus is somewhat afraid and confused that his kind have been gone for 15,000 years and to his knowledge he is the only one left
19:32.50XhoAnd the fact that 15,000 years have gone doesn't help either
19:33.12OluapWorkerLonginus - why is everyone half animal and tiny
19:34.38Imperioswait
19:34.39Imperios>[23:30] <OluapWorker> Kinmo - listen here u lil yellow pebble
19:34.44ImperiosLittle yellow people
19:34.45Imperios...hur
19:34.56OluapWorkerpebble, not people
19:35.07XhoLonginus - dat racist y u racist                    Kinmo - phoenix now shut up
19:35.33OluapWorkerLonginus - mor like turkey                      Kinmo - yeh not shup
19:35.38OluapWorkernow*
19:35.48Monet_Oriac elves do strike me as the kind of being that literally shits rocks
19:35.52OluapWorkerWorldturkey
19:36.01XhoKinmorunddraver Roast-Walker
19:36.16XhoMonet_: Here's a giant jar of "I don't give a shit"
19:36.23XhoI mean as a quote
19:36.25XhoNot as an insult
19:36.33XhoShould have put that all in quote marks really
19:36.45XhoLemme rephrase: "Here's a giant jar of "I don't give a shit""
19:36.54XhoThere we go
19:36.58Monet_lol
19:37.35XhoKinmorunddraver - In modern times you call the destruction of the phoenixes "thanksgiving"                   you sick fucks
19:37.37Monet_That moment when you realise that koldenweltians could have been panning for oriac elf shit
19:37.47OluapWorkerNegotiations with Longinus go downhill as Norrigan stares at him from a nearby wall, letting out heavy breaths
19:38.11XhoLonginus - watdafuq is he doin                        Norrigan - [praising intensifies]
19:38.53XhoSeptimus and Longinus go out sunbathing on the sunniest day of the year -> Norrigan praises so much that he regains a physical body
19:39.08OluapWorkerNorrigan - I AM THE SUN
19:39.36OluapWorkerNow I imagine Koldenwelt's sun being like the Teletubbies baby sun but with Norrigan instead
19:39.54The_Randomnesslel
19:40.08XhoNorrigan - PRAISE ISIRIS, PRAISE ISIRIS, SAY PRAISE ISIRIS                    SAY IT
19:40.28XhoLonginus - i want off this realm
19:40.29OluapWorker]Longinus - does he do this often                     Septimus - just do as he says
19:41.02Xho"So this is what my order has been devolved to? Crazy ghosts who praise the sun?"
19:41.13ImperiosMonet_: I just found an exotic mace that costed 266 gold in GW2
19:41.16Imperios...I sold it
19:41.53XhoI imagine most orders that do worship the sun/universe probably descended from Longinus' order
19:41.54Monet_Oluap: You just reminded me of when comedian Russel Howard superimposed this face http://www.littlevoicebigworld.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Gordon-Brown.jpg onto the baby sun
19:42.08XhoOh god why Gordon Brown
19:42.17Monet_I can't remember the joke
19:42.37Monet_I just remember Gordon Brown's mug on the Baby Sun
19:42.50Monet_Complete with baby gurgling
19:43.21Monet_I think I jsut ruined teletubbies.
19:43.34The_Randomnesslol
19:43.58XhoThat being said Longinus' order was probably the longest-standing religious order in the world since it descended from communing with the Sun Drakes
19:44.18XhoOh god there's a thought
19:44.25XhoLonginus teaches Norrigan how to commune with Sun Drakes
19:44.33OluapWorkerNorrigan - aw yiss
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19:45.01Monet_*Teaches him how to communicate only in insults
19:45.33XhoLonginus - now say dis                      Norrigan - [your mother is fat]
19:46.28OluapWorkerSun Drake - listen here u micro shit
19:46.32XhoIt's probable that Longinus is the ancient world's answer to a paladin
19:46.46OluapWorkerBorderline evil paladin
19:46.55XhoLonginus - not evil           just a grade a dick
19:46.57OluapWorkerbbl
19:47.49XhoWell being just and theatrical in the time when theatricality was met with giant horrific monsters tearing you limb from limb wasn't a good idea
19:48.25MasterMachineOH
19:48.36Monet_Knights were only gentlement at court.
19:48.39MasterMachinetSomeone on my minecraft server made a faction called Borealis xD
19:48.53Monet_In battle they were just as much a bunch of arseholes as everyone else
19:48.59XhoSounds about right
19:49.09MasterMachine#Chilvary!
19:49.16MasterMachine-shoves sword up ass-
19:49.18ImperiosSo, blackguard/anti-paladin?
19:49.20Xho"Paladin of the Order of Sol" Sounds about right for the most of it
19:49.24Monet_I recall reading that a lot of knights trained their horses to bite people.
19:49.29ImperiosOr actually
19:49.36WormyDINNER TIME
19:49.39Imperios...He's like Garitos from Warcraft
19:50.11XhoAlthough the name in Protodynastic Orichalcum is something else entirely when translated
19:51.17Monet_I don't think chivlary ever had much place in the heat of battle since the bulk of the people you were fighting were never formally taught it.
19:51.33The_RandomnessI'll be back in a bit
19:51.53XhoLonginus - im a ten foot tall walking god statue                     do i need to give a shit about chivalry
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19:52.11XhoThat being said there were likely many other warriors like Longinus
19:52.23XhoAlthough they were all probably killed off by Constantius' command
19:53.31dromXho: I know that you don't want to talk much about fiction. But I think it's a better idea to move our proposed collab to the new community-wide arch. Thanks.
19:54.05Monet_Constantinius - I hearby decree that none under my command shall be a bigger asswipe than me. Any who are shall be summarily executed.
19:54.24Imperioshur
19:54.36ImperiosOri - hey that's genocide
19:55.06ImperiosNow I am actually going to make a page for Pheonas
19:55.16Monet_Constantinius = Are you going to argue with me about it?
19:55.40ImperiosShould I count him as a Sim or a Col?
19:59.29HachimanNot entirely sure there
19:59.52HachimanColossi represent natural elements and there can only be 12 Simulacra
20:02.25Monet_Didn't we talk about there possibly being more in the fluff that are dormant/dead now?
20:05.33XhoYeah but we risk overdeifying the Fantasyverse
20:05.56XhoI have no problem with more gods personally but then again I'm one user against others
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20:07.19officerjackalHello!
20:08.15MasterMachineHey
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20:11.42HachimanHai
20:14.14XhoWell that was fun
20:14.44MasterMachinelol
20:15.14MasterMachinehttp://www.mindistortion.tv/iwantyoursoul/?i_am=Mecharic
20:15.17MasterMachinemwahahaha
20:15.50XhoNice try
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20:17.29HachimanWoops
20:19.36Monet_I've always been puzzled on the right term for Japanese characters But I don't think Sheldon's Mother's term of "Kung-Fu letters" is very appropriate. At all.
20:19.41XhoKanji
20:19.44XhoOr Hiragana
20:19.48XhoOr Katakana
20:19.52XhoThere's three different kinds
20:19.56Monet_Xho: THis is why I was puzzled.
20:21.25Monet_I mean...I can refer to Greek, Cyrillic, Latin and Arabic as "letters" or "alphabet" but it can be confusing which is the right description of Japanese since I'm worried that I might mistake one form of Japanese for another.
20:22.27Xhoひらがな = Hiragana    カタカナ = Katakana    漢字 = Kanji
20:22.59Monet_....uhhhhhhh
20:23.15XhoHm how to put it simpler
20:23.29XhoHiragana is used for actual Japanese words and generally has a fluid look to the characters
20:23.42XhoKatakana is used for loan words and has more of a blocky look to the characters
20:23.47XhoKanji is Chinese characters
20:23.58Monet_I knew of Kanji
20:24.12Monet_Annoyingly I also know that one should NEVER EVER mix Chinese with Japanese
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20:24.50Monet_Okay. You freeze up over Science, I freeze up over Eastern Oriental Languages.
20:24.54Monet_Hi
20:25.07XhoHiragana and Kanji can be interchanged so for instance the word 建物 has exactly the same reading and pronunciation as たてもの
20:25.23XhoPronunciation being 'tatemono'
20:25.27HachimanXho: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152332522834205 is dis u
20:25.29HachimanHai
20:25.32OluapPlayeru a tatemono
20:25.34OluapPlayeromg hai
20:25.36OluapPlayeredit paeg
20:25.48XhoHachiman: That's my dad for sure
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20:27.34ImperiosMonet: The correct term for Japanese?
20:27.35ImperiosSyllabary
20:27.41ImperiosWith logographic elements
20:28.21Monet_It does bug me how peope lare saying we all have to learn mandarin Chinese bacuase of how prevalent China is these days.
20:28.31ImperiosWell
20:28.38OluapPlayershamefur dispray
20:28.42ImperiosIn 1910 noone would have guessed we all have to learn English
20:28.52Monet_India has a bout a billino people too and they're on the up so does that mean in a few years we'll all start talking about learning Hindi?
20:28.58Imperios*could have guess that we all would have to learn English
20:29.06ImperiosMonet_: China is more advanced
20:29.08Imperios:P
20:29.12HachimanIndia doesn't have a shared language
20:29.17Imperios^ that too
20:29.21Monet_Hachiman: Very true
20:29.23ImperiosAlthough, frankly
20:29.28ImperiosNeither does China hur
20:29.29XhoAnd then in Japanese you often use Hiragana and Kanji in the same sentence;     私は豚肉を食べることが出来ませんで菜食主義者ですから is equal to    ã‚ãŸã—はぶたにくをたべることができませんでさいしょくしゅぎしゃですから
20:29.31Monet_There is a lot of English floating around India
20:29.56HachimanMonet_: Well we DID used to own it
20:30.01Monet_Xho: I don't meanto be offensive here but....I can't....I have no idea.
20:30.09XhoBasically you use Kanji as a way to compress sentences down
20:30.18ImperiosMonet_: Basically
20:30.24Monet_My brain is looking at a jumble of random lines.
20:30.25ImperiosYou can write stuff phonetically, using Japanese script
20:30.36ImperiosOr by meaning, using Chinese hieroglyphs
20:31.07ImperiosHm...
20:31.08ImperiosBasically
20:31.11XhoTranslation is "watashi wa butaniku wo taberukoto ga dekimasen de saishokushugisha desu kara" which means "I can't eat meat because I'm a vegetarian"
20:31.13Monet_At least with Arabic I can tell where words begin and end.
20:31.29XhoYou can split up the sentence easier
20:31.46Xho私 は 豚肉 を 食べること が 出来ません で 菜食主義者 です から
20:31.52Monet_That's a bit better
20:32.16Xhoわたしは ぶたにく を たべること が できません で さいしょくしゅぎしゃ です から
20:32.26XhoHiragana is a pain to read sometimes
20:32.26OluapPlayersausage language
20:32.48ImperiosMonet_: ...Let me explain it to you that way. Take the word "behead", for example
20:32.48HachimanLanguage of wieners
20:32.57XhoAlso Kanji is very useful to discern two words
20:33.12XhoFor example the word 'bridge' and 'chopstick' in Japanese is the same
20:33.21ImperiosImagine if you could wrote it either letter-to-letter or by writing "be" and then drawing the picture of a head
20:33.32ImperiosJapanese works by the same principle
20:33.34ImperiosRight, Xho?
20:33.52XhoTechnically yes
20:33.56Monet_I feel like a thuggish imbecile right now.
20:35.24Monet_As if my brain would prefer to not know than know despite the usefulness if that makes sense.
20:35.43Xho菜食主義者 as split up in Kanji means 'Someone who follows the principle of a vegetarian diet'
20:35.48XhoSo, 'vegetarian'
20:35.53ImperiosWell Xho knows Japanese and I study linguistics
20:36.05ImperiosSo it's not that bad hur
20:36.13Technobliteratoraww man
20:36.16TechnobliteratorI need to learn Japanese
20:36.20Technobliterator;_;
20:36.23Imperiosdo it u gaijin
20:36.48ImperiosBTW Jo
20:37.04ImperiosDo you want me to make a new version of Sefarina?
20:37.24TechnobliteratorUrm, sure, if you want
20:37.39TechnobliteratorI'd be down with that
20:37.46Monet_And yet I constantly talk about how great science is and how things would be better if more peope knew it and didn't treat it as a separate nerd's reality....Yet here I am with my brain straining, juggling whether or not i'm better off knowing the difference between all these oriental alnguages.
20:37.49ImperiosI don't follow?
20:38.05Technobliteratoras in, "yeah go ahead"
20:38.06ImperiosMonet_: Heh
20:38.20ImperiosFunny thing is, none of the main Oriental languages are even related to each other actually
20:38.36Monet_The other day I was asking myself why peopel keep saying "that's nto a cartoon that's anime" when the word quite clearly comes from EUROPEAN for "animation"
20:38.55ImperiosAlgebra comes from Arabic
20:39.01ImperiosChemistry comes from Ancient Egyptian
20:39.07MasterMachineBecause anime is from japan, even if the world comes from Europe.
20:39.17MasterMachine#AnimeNut
20:39.20ImperiosAnd all European language trace their origins to the Pontic-Caspian steppe anyway
20:39.22ImperiosWhat's the matter?
20:39.26Imperios*languages
20:39.42TechnobliteratorMonet_, it's the same reason why people get corrected when they don't make the distinction between JRPGs and RPGs
20:39.49XhoJapanese sentence formation is somewhat difficult though
20:39.55Monet_There's this cultural pressure to use a word they twisted from our language.
20:40.10MasterMachineAnime generally has a different style from western animation(cartoons) and is usually more serious in nature
20:40.13TechnobliteratorBecause it's an importan distinction to make
20:40.23ImperiosIs there a cultural pressure to use the word "chemistry", twisted from Arabic?
20:40.28Monet_WHat's wrong with just saying "Japanese cartoon"?
20:40.28HachimanMasterMachine: I doubt that last part
20:40.38Technobliteratorand, yes, that largely stems from the fact that they were made in different countries?
20:40.46Technobliteratorbecause "Japanese cartoon" is not its actual name
20:40.48ImperiosMonet_: What's wrong with calling orange an orange?
20:40.50HachimanBoth Western and Japanese animation have been used for adult entertainment
20:40.52Imperios*an orange an orange?
20:41.00ImperiosWhy not call it "Chinese fruit"?
20:41.04Technobliterator+
20:41.09Imperios"Orange" is from Persian anyway]
20:41.19MasterMachineHachiman, I mean with regards to that fact that I have yet to see a cartoon that has blood, death, and violence and wasn't on Adult Swim lol
20:41.35ImperiosMasterMachine: Ahem
20:41.41ImperiosQuite a lot of Disney stuff was gory
20:41.42MasterMachinelol
20:41.47MasterMachineFair enough
20:41.50Monet_We adopted Alchemy rom Arabic, we adopted Chemistry from Ancient Egyptian, we didn't pass those words to those countries and then start using the word they used.
20:42.00HachimanBut that's like saying that anime doesn't have shows that don't have blood and such
20:42.20HachimanBoth Japan and the West have conveyed animation to both kids and adult entertainment
20:42.43ImperiosMonet_: Actually we do
20:42.57HachimanThe only real difference between anime and Western cartoons is the location where it is made, as Avatar borrows quite heavily from anime art styles yet isn't called an anime
20:43.18ImperiosOkay, *you* do, I am not sure if there are words like that in Russian, but I know quite a few words in English that were actually imported to other countries and then borrowed back through being twisted
20:43.45MasterMachinePersonally I actually thought Avatar was an anime for ages before I found out it was actually US made xD
20:43.53Imperios"Guard" is actually the Germanic word "ward" adopted by the French through Franks and then reintroduced to Britain
20:44.20Monet_French, German and English all ahve roots in Latin though.
20:44.24Imperiosnein
20:44.28HachimanThe line between anime and Western animation is a lot more simple than with Western RPGs and JRPGs
20:44.28ImperiosGerman and English are Germanic
20:44.32ImperiosFrench is Romance
20:44.34ImperiosBig difference
20:44.47Monet_Kaiser?
20:44.50ImperiosGerman and English use words from Latin
20:44.57ImperiosDoesn't mean they are derived from Latin
20:45.12Monet_OKay not derived entirely
20:45.14TechnobliteratorHachimanThe line between anime and Western animation is a lot more simple than with Western RPGs and JRPGs
20:45.14ImperiosBy your logic Japanese is derived from English hur
20:45.15Technobliteratoryep
20:45.22TechnobliteratorJRPGs are good
20:45.24Technobliterator>:)
20:45.28MasterMachineTechnically all language is derived from grunts and snorts... #GoodOldDays
20:45.30OluapPlayerDon't start
20:45.30HachimanAhem
20:45.40HachimanRed Dead Redemption and Mass Effect hur
20:45.42Technobliteratorcome on, I was obviously kidding on that one
20:45.46MasterMachinelol
20:45.52TechnobliteratorI'm a well known Mass Effect fangirl :o
20:45.58Monet_I have noticed all Jrpgs have their own formula. Like the protagonist being an effemenate blonde boy on the cusp of adulthood.
20:46.00ImperiosMasterMachine: Heh, there's actually an entire branch of linguistics that studies that
20:46.03Technobliterator...
20:46.09Technobliteratorbro do you even FFVI
20:46.30Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Terra_Branford
20:46.38MasterMachineImperios: People actually get paid to study grunts and snorts? Or do they work on finding out how language evolved from primitive noise making?
20:46.39TechnobliteratorThat is not an effemenate blonde boy
20:46.57ImperiosThe latter
20:46.58HachimanI think Monet means "bishonen"
20:47.11MasterMachineThe latter I would pay a bit to know.
20:47.14Monet_No that's a blonde perso nthat's clearly a very effememnate woman
20:47.33HachimanBishonen is very popular in Japan, but then shows about teenagers are also common in the UK and US
20:47.37Monet_So there's a gender change.
20:47.43Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Squall_Leonhart
20:47.51TechnobliteratorThis guy is a douchebag, but he is not even close to effemenate
20:48.10ImperiosMonet: ...Actually, about "chemistry", it seems I was wrong, the words "alchemy" and "chemistry" come from Ancient Greek for "I mix apparently"
20:48.11Monet_And his face?
20:48.33Technobliteratoris not effemenate either?
20:48.44Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Zidane_Tribal Blonde, perhaps, but he's not even human
20:48.45ImperiosWhich does make "alchemy" a word with a similar history to "anime"
20:48.46Monet_Looks effemenate to a degree to me
20:48.56OluapPlayer"muh generalizations"
20:49.01ImperiosTaken from European, then modified, and then brought to Europe
20:49.07Imperios...You don't have problems with it do you?
20:49.07OluapPlayerThis is what this discussion sums to
20:49.10Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Bartz_Klauser Not effemenate, but a bit thick
20:49.18MasterMachinelol Oluap
20:49.33XhoTrying to re-educate myself in Japanese now
20:49.38MasterMachinelol
20:49.46MasterMachineJust watch anime with subs not dubs
20:49.56Monet_Technobliterator: Can you find a guy who doesn't look like they'd appear at the Milan catwalks?
20:50.11ImperiosMonet: I am not even otaku but I know plenty
20:50.18Technobliterator._.
20:50.21ImperiosAnd what's the problem with that anyway?
20:50.30Technobliteratorare you trolling again?
20:50.32ImperiosPeople have different standards of beauty in different societies
20:50.34HachimanI like bishonen what you on about hur
20:50.47Monet_I'm not trying to troll.
20:51.00TechnobliteratorWell, you're certainly giving the impression that you are
20:51.01ImperiosLight skin is fashionable in East Asia, tanned skin is fashionable in Europe and America
20:51.03ImperiosSo what?
20:51.07MasterMachineAnime in a nutshell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH9Y9SPZYTI&index=111&list=FLrvNSgQopq3Xznxnm2sA9kA
20:51.13Monet_But...well Bartz *does* look like he douldn't look out of place in a gay bar.
20:51.20Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Barret_Wallace anyway, here's your non effeinate
20:51.33MasterMachineDayum
20:51.35Imperios...The same can be said of many people
20:51.36Monet_Okay now that dude's manly
20:51.37Technobliteratormaybe in his artwork, not his sprite
20:51.38MasterMachineDat hand/gun/thing
20:51.40ImperiosGays can be manly too hur
20:51.56MasterMachineYeah
20:52.09HachimanKol - who sed i not manly
20:52.28OluapPlayerKolossus - i did
20:52.36ImperiosHachiman: Personally I imagine Kol as macho-camp
20:52.45ImperiosBasically like the custodes from Emperor
20:52.48Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Adelbert_Steiner
20:52.57HachimanIf JoJo's Bizarre Adventure taught me anything is that men can do effeminate poses and motions while holstering rather masculine and manly personalities
20:53.10*** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~ethiomi@host-64-157-66-217.spbmts.ru)
20:53.12OluapPlayerYou're just a closet fag
20:53.14OluapPlayerfag
20:53.20Technobliteratorif you want an FF character to hate on
20:53.24Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Tidus HATE ON THIS FUCKER
20:53.26Monet_I definitely see the issue here: The Japanese are more open to effemenate men.
20:53.32Hachimanhao bout u fuk off ye big fat cunt
20:53.35TechnobliteratorTidus is a godawful cunt that ruined FFX
20:53.36ImperiosOluapPlayer: Hachi, or me?
20:53.41OluapPlayershuddup ya dik weed
20:53.45ImperiosMonet_: ...And?
20:53.49Technobliteratorand is effemenate
20:53.52Technobliteratoryou can hate on Tidus
20:53.53OluapPlayerHachi of course
20:54.00MasterMachine...
20:54.03ImperiosWhat's the issue here?
20:54.06Technobliteratoror vaan ._.
20:54.12HachimanMonet_: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Hokutonokenkenshiro.jpg Effeminate
20:54.13Monet_Most of the characters you showed me can be classed as pretty-boys.
20:54.16MasterMachineWait does anyone here actually have a grudge against gays?
20:54.26TechnobliteratorNot me
20:54.27HachimanI don't give a shit about sexuality hur
20:54.30ImpyDroidMonet_: Their standard of beauty
20:54.31OluapPlayerGay =/= bishonen
20:54.37ImpyDroidDifferent
20:54.38HachimanAye
20:54.40ImpyDroidYou know
20:54.41OluapPlayerAlso reminder that Hachi is bishonen
20:54.42Technobliteratorhttp://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Auron this guy is not effemenate
20:54.46ImpyDroidKorea too
20:54.49Technobliteratorand is a total badass
20:54.59Monet_Alright alright Techno you can stop!
20:55.02ImpyDroidOkay
20:55.11ImpyDroidEast Asians find light skin fashionable
20:55.12Monet_When I said "protagonist" I didn't mean every bloody playable character
20:55.15ImpyDroidIs that an issue?
20:55.15Technobliteratorwell, I can stop when you stop throwing generalizations
20:55.20Technobliteratordeal?
20:55.32Monet_I think you misunderstood me when I said "protagonist"
20:55.51Technobliteratormy first link was a protagnist
20:56.00Monet_I knew abotu the existence of Barrett and Auron.
20:56.09HachimanTo be fair the US and UK aren't too different; we like our anti-heroes to be handsome and either dark-skinned or extensively British hur
20:56.12Monet_I know they are fairly masculine
20:56.21Hachiman*villains and anti-heroes
20:56.29Technobliteratorthe only effemenate blonde cunt is Tidus
20:56.38Technobliteratorbecause Tidus needs to fuck off and die
20:56.38Monet_Vaan?
20:56.39HachimanErr Cloud hur
20:56.39Technobliteratorand Vaan
20:56.41TechnobliteratorVaan too
20:56.41Monet_Cloud?
20:56.46Technobliteratorno, Cloud is not effemenate
20:56.48TechnobliteratorCloud is cool
20:56.59TechnobliteratorTidus is not cool
20:56.59TechnobliteratorVaan is not cool
20:56.59Monet_Still looks like a pretty-boy to me
20:56.59HachimanCloud's a dickweed hur
20:56.59Technobliteratorperhaps
20:56.59MasterMachinelol
20:57.04ImpyDroidThis is not that important anyway!
20:57.06Technobliteratorbut he's at least a likable character
20:57.09ImpyDroidNow back to the discussion
20:57.18Technobliteratorwhat discussion? :o
20:57.26Technobliteratorbut well
20:57.29Technobliteratormore examples
20:57.30Monet_Okay then rather than "effemenate" I will say "pretty-boy"
20:57.30TechnobliteratorRaiden
20:57.34Technobliteratorhe's a pretty boy cunt
20:57.36Technobliteratoryeah, sure
20:57.44TechnobliteratorRaiden is a pretty-boy twat that ruined MGS2
20:57.49Technobliteratorand can fuck off and die
20:57.51ImpyDroidSo what is exactly wrong with femininity being a desirable trait in East Asia?
20:57.53Technobliteratorbut he did do just that
20:57.57Monet_Basically apaparently Japan likes a lot of its protagonists to look like Legolas.
20:57.59Technobliteratorand became a badass cyborg ninja
20:58.07ImpyDroid...So?
20:58.16ImpyDroidWhat's wrong with that?
20:58.21MasterMachineNothing.
20:58.22TechnobliteratorHe's not wrong, Imp
20:58.27Monet_Here in the west we have dudes like Marcus Fenix or Kratos.
20:58.30XhoHow did we get here from me trying to explain Japanese to Monet
20:58.31TechnobliteratorJapanese males look more pretty
20:58.35MasterMachineThere is nothing wrong with having a femine male.
20:58.39Technobliterator+
20:59.06Monet_There is a divide about what peop llook for in a desireable protagonist.
20:59.15TechnobliteratorZidane
20:59.16ImpyDroid> (@Technobliterator) Japanese males look more pretty
20:59.22HachimanI don't mind bishonen pretty-boys or hulking masses of muscle so long as they're interesting and likeable
20:59.24TechnobliteratorZidane is the best
20:59.25ImpyDroidPeople say I look Japanese
20:59.33Technobliteratorother than Naked Snake
20:59.35ImpyDroidSo... thanks, I guess?
20:59.38Technobliteratorno, actually, they're tied
20:59.44OluapPlayerGood thing I have to go now because you're all being quite annoying
20:59.50MasterMachinelol
21:00.11XhoBut
21:00.17XhoHow did we get here from linguistics
21:00.20Monet_In the East they like their lead males young, pretty, fair-skinned and with a slim build. The west likes its lead males to be tough, muscular and gritty with short dark hair and a chin like a car's back end.
21:00.20TechnobliteratorImpyDroid, I was referring to the males in videogames more than the people, but sure
21:00.43TechnobliteratorI honestly don't care about the appearance, I care about the character
21:00.56Technobliteratorthis is why the only pretty boys that annoy me are Raiden and Tidus
21:00.59Technobliteratorand Vaan
21:01.06HachimanBut Raiden redeemed himself hur
21:01.11Technobliteratoryeah
21:01.17Technobliteratorhe did
21:01.22Technobliteratorand only Kojima could do that
21:01.47ImpyDroidI took a linguistics textbook from the uni library today and the first thing is stated is that linguistics is connected to pretty much every other science
21:01.51Technobliteratorhonestly, though, the thing that annoys me about those three are that they could have easily been replaced
21:01.56ImpyDroidSo you can get anywhere from linguistics
21:02.12TechnobliteratorRaiden could be just Snake instead, Tidus could be Jecht, and Vaan could just not exist and the whole game would work fine
21:02.23Monet_But these preferneces are based on traditional cultural standards.
21:02.29Hachimanbutbut Raiden
21:02.31*** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d016b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.22.185)
21:02.40MasterMachineHi ink
21:02.45Technobliteratorhey liquid
21:02.47Liquid_InkHello
21:02.57Liquid_InkHow is everybody?
21:03.03Technobliteratorwe are good
21:03.05Technobliteratoryourself?
21:03.35ImpyDroidMonet_: What do you mean?
21:03.44XhoWe're chatting about things that we shouldn't be chatting about
21:03.49Monet_Its really the same reason why Kirby has the look he does on his American box http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Kirby_Air_Ride_2_1379.jpg
21:03.53Technobliteratornah
21:03.54MasterMachineI don't even get what Mon is trying to explain?
21:04.05XhoI tried explaining Japanese to Monet_ and now we're on the topic of cultural heroic stereotypes
21:04.09Technobliteratorthis conversation is harmless
21:04.13MasterMachineOh
21:04.29MasterMachineMonet_, it's just that japanese have a more passive culture these days than america
21:04.49HachimanMonet_: I dunno how much you know about Tekken but what do you think of this guy; http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100307232124/tekken/en/images/5/57/Jinkazama-6.jpg Bishonen pretty-boy or manly, masculine man
21:04.56MasterMachineMurika - GUNS, GUNS FOR EVERYONE! Japan - No guns, only police.
21:05.18TechnobliteratorI dunno, I could never get into any WRPGs other than Mass Effect
21:05.22Monet_Hachiman: Manly-man who works part time as a hairdresser?
21:05.24TechnobliteratorI tried to get into Skyrim, I really did
21:05.27Liquid_InkI am also well but also unattentive which is why a long conversation happened between me saying this and when you asked [07:03] <@Technobliterator> yourself?
21:05.30Technobliteratorit just didn't do me any wonders
21:05.37Technobliteratorheh
21:05.39ImpyDroidMonet_: Fabulous
21:05.45MasterMachinelol
21:05.51Monet_Skyrim...its more of a nostalgic man's game I think
21:06.03Monet_Vikings with ripped muscles everywhere.
21:06.04TechnobliteratorI just couldn't get into it :/
21:06.10MasterMachineAh, Skyrim... if only my computer did suck at gaming, I'd have played that more
21:06.11Monet_It's like 300 only in Norway.
21:06.15MasterMachinelol
21:06.17TechnobliteratorI got bored of it and didn't find the plot that interesting
21:06.33XhoOblivion is somewhat better
21:06.40MasterMachineYou to admit though, it's got a lot of quests.
21:06.40TechnobliteratorI remember playing Oblivion
21:06.42Monet_Every Elder Scrolls game starts you off as a condemned convict.
21:06.42Technobliteratorthat was super fun
21:07.02Technobliteratordoes Borderlands count as a WRPG?
21:07.07XhoI think so
21:07.10XhoI dunno
21:07.12XhoI just play games
21:07.13Monet_Ever tried Knights of the Old Republic?
21:07.18Monet_NEverwinter Nights?
21:07.23TechnobliteratorI loved that game, but I couldn't really get far into that
21:07.24XhoAh yes Sims 4 is out tomorrow
21:07.28XhoGonna see how that goes
21:07.33Technobliteratortried KoToR
21:07.45XhoEveryone's saying it's a big let down but I'm not convinced just yet
21:07.48Technobliteratorgreat game, didn't age well
21:08.02Monet_See you can get into WRPGs
21:08.10Monet_You're more seletiv ethough
21:08.18Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aLQ2LM5_460sa_v1.gif
21:08.40XhoJepardi: My sides
21:08.44TechnobliteratorI dunno, I just find them less appealing :/ maybe it's because of the emphasis on "the character is an avatar for the player"
21:08.45Monet_I'm a big fan of strategy games and city-builders...not sure how big a market that is in Japan.
21:08.57XhoJapan's market
21:09.00XhoIs insane
21:09.07TechnobliteratorCity-builders, not really, RTS's are decently popular
21:09.16HachimanMonet_: http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131018181748/jjba/images/3/37/JotaroA.png What about this guy, manly man or pretty boy?
21:09.23Monet_I remember EA tried making a Wii version of Somcity
21:09.34XhoFrom my experience in places like Shinjuku and Akihabara there's no such thing as a 'market' in gaming
21:10.07Monet_Hachiman: With those belts and that gold chain I'm getting hints he's in the closet.
21:10.18Monet_But still looks quite masculine
21:10.31HachimanAnd keep in mind that guy is only 17 hur
21:10.38Technobliteratoryeah, urm, he does have the face of a pretty boy
21:10.42Monet_Wait...leather officer's cap
21:10.55Monet_That's condemned him lol
21:11.16HachimanHe's actually completely straight in the manga/anime he's from
21:11.34MasterMachinexD
21:11.35XhoJapan tend to like undercalculating things
21:11.39Monet_Wait...is his hair merging with his cap?
21:11.47XhoLike Nightmare from Soulcalibur is only 5'6" up until Soulcalibur V
21:11.57HachimanMonet_: Not merging, you just dunno where his hat stops and his hair starts
21:12.00MasterMachineJust watch Familiar of Zero - thenrealize that both the main characters are 17.
21:12.04Technobliteratorah, Soulcalibur
21:12.06XhoThen he's 5'10"
21:12.38HachimanThe artist behind him and the other characters in JJBA just loves combining bishie traits with ones associated with masculinity, making manly yet aesthetically flamboyant and effeminate characters
21:12.47Monet_Xho: I read that most Eastern protagonists barely ever get taller than 5ft 10 unless they're supposed ot be freaishly tall
21:12.56XhoPretty much so yeah
21:12.57Technobliteratoroh god, Sephiroth is the biggest bishie ever
21:13.05Technobliterator._.
21:13.08XhoThen you have characters like Astaroth who in Soulcalibur V is 7'2"
21:13.18HachimanThere's actually a name for that sorta thing (bishie + manly) but I can't remember it right now
21:13.19Technobliteratoralso one of the most overrated characters in the series
21:13.33XhoAstaroth is a great character wat u on about
21:13.46Technobliteratorwas talking about sephiroth :o
21:13.52Xhorite
21:13.54Monet_Hachiman: I think what damns Jotaro for me is leather officer's cap = biker from the village peolpe = gay lol
21:13.56Technobliteratorhe's cool, and has a cool theme, but he's overrated as fuck
21:14.10XhoI think most of the new characters in Soulcalibur is a massive let down
21:14.13Technobliteratorwe all know Kefka is the best anyway
21:14.38TechnobliteratorSephiroth being better is just a load of fanboy dreaming >:)
21:15.01Technobliteratorbrb
21:15.47HachimanIf I was a woman I'd prefer to have sex with Sephiroth than Kefka really
21:15.52HachimanPrimarily because I hate clowns
21:15.59MasterMachinehur
21:16.07Monet_Joker - OH REALLY!
21:16.26Monet_Actually the Joker would make anyone afraid of clowns
21:16.46MasterMachinexD
21:16.47XhoHachiman: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110808152413/soulcalibur/images/a/a9/AlgSC4cg2.jpg pretty boy here hur
21:17.14MasterMachinexD
21:17.17Monet_He looks like the offspring of Zeus and Medusa.
21:17.21XhoYou know it really never occurred to me until this point
21:17.25XhoKithworto reminds me of Algol somewhat
21:17.57HachimanYou've said this
21:17.59HachimanAges ago
21:18.03XhoI did?
21:18.07HachimanYeah
21:18.11XhoOkay it hasn't occurred to me for ages
21:18.16Monet_Isn't Kirby supposed ot be like 4ft or something?
21:18.22HachimanWe made comparisons between Algol and Kithworto about a year ago hur
21:18.31XhoRight
21:18.38XhoI can't remember yesterday so yeah
21:18.50HachimanAlthough I gotta say
21:18.54HachimanNeeds more Talim really
21:19.12Xhotalim op pls nerf
21:20.57XhoActually most of the female characters are op
21:21.00Monet_This makes me wonder what the formula for Draconis protagonists is? Or hell the common formula in Draconis -madeRPGs
21:21.08XhoCassandra in Soulcalibur II especially
21:21.11Monet_Xho: The power of massive boobies
21:21.16HachimanAye
21:21.18XhoJapan in a nutshell
21:21.30XhoAnd Seong Mi-na in Soulcalibur II as well
21:21.41XhoI dreaded facing her since I'd generally lose
21:21.42Hachimanhao bout kilik
21:21.44Monet_Yeah I've noticed Japan can often take boob sizes to ridiculous levels
21:21.53HachimanMonet_: You just noticed hur
21:22.00Monet_For a while
21:22.06XhoKilik's and Seong Mi-na's styles are almost the same in SC II so yeah Kilik is overpowered
21:22.14Monet_Like..so big they're either obviously implants or she's preparing to feed four kids at once.
21:22.21HachimanI would make a character inspired by Talim but then Jo already has Sefarina
21:22.37XhoHm
21:22.46XhoWell Ndrhthryr has slight Astaroth inspirations
21:22.55XhoJanos is pretty much Super-Nightmare
21:23.02HachimanHe does remind me a lot of Astaroth
21:23.10TechnobliteratorHachimanIf I was a woman I'd prefer to have sex with Sephiroth than Kefka really
21:23.15Technobliteratorwell, I mean, I won't argue there
21:23.35XhoWell both of them were created by evil cultists except Nd is somewhat smart and doesn't result to brutish violence as quick
21:23.54XhoYou should make a Necrid-like character
21:24.06HachimanHe'd be related to Crux definitely hur
21:24.10TechnobliteratorHachimanI would make a character inspired by Talim but then Jo already has Sefarina
21:24.12Xhoja
21:24.15Technobliteratoreh, you can have Sefarina
21:24.24Hachimannoo shes urs
21:24.35XhoWell Janos is somewhere between Nightmare and Charade
21:24.42Technobliteratorit's not like I'm active on/have interest in the Fantasyverse anyway :o you can have all my stuff
21:24.53XhoI suppose Kinmo is Olcadan
21:25.05Hachimanur givin me moar stuff for oluap 2 moan at me 4
21:25.05Xhohttp://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Olcadan Both bird people so it wokrs
21:25.06Hachimanhalp
21:25.08Xhoworks*
21:25.16Technobliteratormwaha
21:25.29Technobliteratorthough that said, I barely am active on/have interest in the Fictionverse either
21:25.34Technobliteratorso I guess I can keep Sef
21:25.54HachimanI mean I'd happily accept it if you really wanna give it away
21:26.13TechnobliteratorI'm pretty much apathetic
21:26.25Hachimanyes ur a pathetic wooman
21:26.27Technobliteratorso I don't really mind
21:26.29Technobliteratoru wot m8
21:26.53XhoCyrannian should make an Aeon Calcos like character
21:26.56Xhowaptors
21:27.06Technobliteratorbefore I give you anything though, you need to read the Atonement ending :o
21:27.13Hachimanfuk
21:27.17HachimanRight send it to me
21:27.25HachimanTechnobliterator: I know where to put your unwanted fics btw
21:27.35Technobliteratoroh?
21:27.35HachimanIn the kitchen
21:27.43MasterMachine...
21:27.44Technobliterator...
21:27.45XhoHOH
21:27.48TechnobliteratorD:
21:27.54MasterMachineShoulda said "in the closet"
21:27.56Technobliteratorok, in all fairness
21:28.04Technobliteratorthat's probably the best sexist joke I've heard in a while
21:28.06Technobliteratorso grats
21:28.10Technobliterator:D
21:28.15Hachimanyey
21:28.19MasterMachinelol
21:28.20Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ice_Age/Atonement#Finality here ya go
21:28.20XhoHachiman: Actually you should make a super-underleveled character and get inspiration from Rock
21:28.35HachimanOh?
21:29.13XhoAnd then make him really boring so no one likes him
21:29.19ImpyDroidSpeaking of sexism
21:29.22Hachimanhue
21:29.41ImpyDroidI wonder how many rights women have in Koldenweltian societies
21:30.01HachimanI imagine Hachi growing up to become a Yoshimitsu-like figure
21:30.28HachimanImpyDroid: Depends on the culture really
21:30.40Technobliteratoryo hachi
21:30.41ImpyDroidHence 'societies'
21:30.43Technobliteratorlink is right there
21:30.46Technobliteratorclick dat shit mofo
21:30.50XhoWell he already lost his arm
21:31.06XhoAnd he lost his clan
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21:31.15XhoSo that's half the job done
21:31.21Technobliteratorhey random
21:31.29The_RandomnessHello everyone
21:32.29ImpyDroidEmpire is probably Renaissance in that regard; Klaxxa have these matriarchs
21:33.05HachimanTechnobliterator: Damn that's really nice I gotta say
21:33.09HachimanI'm gonna miss Genrai
21:33.20Technobliterator^.^
21:33.26Monet_Thinking about it...if the bulk of human humour is about making fun of others, what' sthe bulk of humour in communalities?
21:33.40HachimanAlthough Tovad seems like an interesting character so I hope he lives up to Genrai's legacy
21:33.40Technobliteratorhe was a hard character to kill off, I have to admit
21:33.46Technobliteratoryep, that's the plan
21:34.18Monet_Since laughing at another's misfortune = mocking yourself when you screw up
21:35.44Technobliteratoralso, I asked a question in the forum, dunno if people saw :o
21:35.59Monet_I think the answer is self-explainatory
21:36.40Monet_If this is the majority vote, then that's what people want, no need to further ask if this is the case.
21:36.56Technobliteratorbut I do need to ask before I close polls
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21:37.10Knight_AlienHi
21:37.44Monet_If its procedure then fine
21:37.49The_RandomnessWhich question was that Techno?
21:37.59Technobliteratorit was this; http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189114#25
21:38.27Technobliteratoressentially, "people have voted to have co-ordinators so should I close the poll"
21:38.34The_RandomnessOh yeah, I voted
21:38.42Technobliteratorooh, now it's 9-6
21:39.00Technobliteratoror 6-6 depending on how you look at it
21:40.01XhoOr perhaps
21:40.03Xho12
21:40.09Technobliterator:o
21:40.34Jepardihttp://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/aAV1XLg_460s_v1.jpg
21:41.30HachimanI'm surprised Metallica can amass a crowd these days
21:41.45Xhosaurman tho
21:41.48Knight_AlienHow do we vite?
21:41.53Knight_Alien*Vote*
21:42.01TechnobliteratorI'm surprised people care how large the crowds drawn are
21:42.32TechnobliteratorKnight_Alien, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189114#11 vote here
21:42.53Knight_AlienThanks.
21:42.53Technobliterator...wow, the second option is super popular 0.0
21:43.04Tek0516I think the context of those concert snapshots might also change things.
21:43.11HachimanXho: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140904163818/spore/images/3/3a/FutureHachiman.png u seen dis
21:43.17XhoYes
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21:43.37Technobliteratoralso, would people agree with starting the fiction in about a few week's time instead of immediately?
21:43.39Monet_I;m not so sure on the whole "X ftw" going on
21:43.39XhoMucho hair
21:43.50Tek0516Technobliterator: We want to write without being told what the plot will be.
21:43.54Monet_For one I like ot see chaos as something more than "compelte anarchy"
21:44.00Tek0516^
21:44.19TechnobliteratorTek0516, you aren't told what to write and what not to write with the second or third options
21:44.37Monet_Chaos THEORY for instance is far from anarchic
21:44.56Tek0516That's why I said that about the second
21:44.57The_RandomnessThat's something different than the conventional use of chaos
21:45.14Technobliteratorwell
21:45.24Technobliteratorthe "X ftw" was just to make it a bit more light hearted
21:45.27Monet_It implies there are patterns -in- a lack of order os not quite
21:46.01Technobliteratorohh
21:46.22Monet_Technobliterator: I'm talking about chaos theory
21:46.22Technobliteratorsorry Tek, I didn't understand your sentence for a second there >.< yeah I see what you mean now
21:46.42Monet_Oh, nvm what I said in the last few seconds
21:47.06Technobliteratorwell, uh
21:47.12Technobliteratorcan I, like, close the polls now?
21:47.17Technobliteratorwill people ragemode at me if I do?
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21:47.22The_RandomnessIf you want, sure
21:47.28The_RandomnessWe can laugh at whoever rages
21:47.33Technobliteratorwaits for the approval of a few more people
21:48.02Tek0516I prefer some level of moderator to ensure some sense of order and continuity.
21:48.14dromFound out that Kiel has a new format for their resource files.
21:48.14Technobliteratormhm, I do see what you mean
21:48.15dromBlargh
21:48.20MasterMachineTech, close the polls
21:48.21Technobliteratorhey drom
21:48.21dromI cannot extract the files.
21:48.29Technobliteratorok that's 2 people approving
21:48.33Technobliterator1 more plz
21:48.34MasterMachine:P
21:48.41dromHello Technobliterator
21:48.45Tek0516Fine with me
21:48.50Technobliteratoryay!
21:48.57Technobliteratorthat's 3, I'll close now
21:49.05dromVoting for wat?
21:49.17Technobliteratorfor whether we want space exploration fiction to have moderators or not, and on the name
21:49.36TechnobliteratorName is basically decided already, barely anyone voted anything other than Uncharted Expanse
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21:50.11TekDroid~20 users is a good portion of our active community.
21:50.11infobotTekDroid: okay
21:50.25TekDroidWhoops.
21:50.32TekDroid>. >
21:51.10TekDroid~20 users
21:51.10infobotrumour has it, 20 users is a good portion of our active community.
21:51.17TekDroidO.o
21:51.23The_Randomness~10 users
21:51.28The_RandomnessHuh
21:51.36TekDroidI accidentally set that just now.
21:51.53The_RandomnessAh
21:51.57TekDroid~kick infobot
21:51.57infobotACTION kicks infobot
21:55.52TechnobliteratorNEW POST
21:56.15Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189114#26
21:56.20Technobliteratorthoughts? :o
21:57.26The_Randomnesswb
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21:59.23CyrannianHi
21:59.24The_RandomnessHey
21:59.45dromHai
22:00.21Technobliteratorhey cyr
22:01.33WormyHi
22:01.58WormyYeah, I'm not sure I agree with the format of the poll myself for reasons stated.
22:02.06WormyBut okay
22:02.24TechnobliteratorPolls don't work for most wiki discussions, but they do for this
22:02.43WormyI won't chase it for the sake of the project, this time.
22:03.33Technobliteratorthey basically don't require too much input, and this is where the "sporewiki is not a democracy" doesn't really apply, because popularity is what we're after on a fiction that's supposed to be participated in by the masses
22:03.56CyrannianI personally would have used the kudos system.
22:04.03HachimanIf I post a picture of my dong will that get me extra points
22:04.09The_Randomnessdum
22:04.18Technobliteratoroh, I guess the kudos wouldn't have required as much effort either
22:04.23Technobliteratoreh, I'll use that in future#
22:05.06HachimanThe kudos system or my dong
22:05.24Technobliterator...definitely not the latter
22:05.35WormyTbh, I don't think there is a great difference in outcome between what I prposed and what has been voted.  From what I understand, we plan our stories/themes, and those stories are chosen on their merits, rather than a favourite user. and its up to that user to provide consistency?
22:05.54The_Randomnessヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ DONGER or RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
22:06.03The_RandomnessSorry, couldn't resist
22:06.04Hachimanrito pls
22:06.04Wormyget out Sontarans
22:06.24Technobliteratorbut the story is what we're voting here
22:06.29Monet_Wormy: So...The poll on whether coordinators were needed was already decided before the poll went up?
22:06.30Technobliteratorwe vote the story that the user presents
22:06.57TechnobliteratorNo, nothing was decided prior to the poll, that is why I made it to check what everyone else thought before I jumped to conclusions
22:07.11WormyMy idea was similar, except we would all be writing features for the fiction.  Again, the main stories would be chosen by their activity and merits
22:07.39WormyI still suggest we leave the background of this fic without coorrdination
22:07.49The_RandomnessWhat would coordinators do anyway?
22:08.10WormyConsistency of a storyline I think
22:08.13Technobliteratorensure consistency within the fiction, and post the new big updates
22:08.18Technobliteratormore importantly, the latter
22:08.18dromMake skeletons and let the rest do the rest.
22:08.25Technobliteratorand what drom said
22:08.29XhoI'm gonna go to sleep now
22:08.36Wormynighty
22:08.37Technobliteratorgnight ^.^
22:08.41dromG'night pal.
22:08.49WormyDon't let the bed bugs bite
22:08.51HachimanWhat's this about skellingtons
22:08.53CyrannianIf anything, I think coordinators should be decided as the fiction goes on based on their level of involvement in the story and discussions involving it.
22:09.01Wormyyeah
22:09.07The_RandomnessYeah
22:09.09dromDon't let your hellmarish spawns haunt your bed, Xho.
22:09.11TechnobliteratorI would agree with that
22:09.18Technobliteratorit depends on how much they contribute to it
22:09.25WormySo there isn't much difference in outcome
22:09.47HachimanSPOOKY SCARY SKELLINGTONS
22:10.06drom2spooky
22:10.31dromI lock my gardrobe, because it has a skeleton.
22:10.58HachimanNow, in all seriousness, I need to discuss something with this community urgently
22:11.16Technobliteratoris listening
22:11.19MasterMachineWhat?
22:11.40HachimanI don't want anybody to panic and I want us all to stay strong, but this is urgent and may potentially affect some of you negatively.
22:11.53MasterMachineOk, I'm listening...
22:12.21dromGo ahead, my guts are ready for steamrolling.
22:12.52HachimanThere are skeletons inside ALL OF YOU RIGHT NOW
22:12.58MasterMachine...
22:12.59The_Randomnesseek
22:13.09Technobliteratorthat was the most anticlimatic thing ever
22:13.15MasterMachineIt really was
22:13.22WormyThe truth hurts.
22:13.23Technobliteratorand I was getting my tears ready ._.
22:13.27MasterMachinexD
22:13.44WormyAren't you mortified like the rest of us Jo?
22:14.03dromOh fuck you. You fucking briliant greasy motherfucker.
22:14.10Technobliteratornope
22:14.13TechnobliteratorI'm a robot
22:14.37dromI was replying to Hachiman.
22:14.50TechnobliteratorI was replying to Wormy
22:15.13Wormyyou must have robotic skeleton however
22:15.28dromNot a filthy cupboard of circuits, like you.
22:15.42TechnobliteratorI do indeed
22:16.21HachimanRobotic skeleton
22:16.23HachimanSo a Necron
22:16.30dromburn it
22:16.48Wormyborg it
22:16.56Hachimanbjork it
22:17.06dromis it flameproof?
22:17.09Technobliteratorso urm
22:17.14Technobliteratorare people gonna post ideas on the form :o
22:17.19dromif yes, is it lavaproofs too?
22:17.57WormyI don't have any new ideas http://static.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1252/UhIthinkthatstheprincessMOLESTiafaceThiswont_9841e6701f3349eab5c5a5959554a335_4514205_lrg.jpg
22:18.11The_RandomnessI don't have any well-developed ideas yet
22:19.16Technobliteratorwell
22:19.20Technobliteratorif you come up with one, plz post
22:20.05The_RandomnessWorking on it
22:20.11dromI can't into ideas.
22:21.40WormyAm I becoming a brony?  I keep posting pony memes lately.  Is this how it starts?
22:22.25The_Randomnessoh gosh
22:22.40The_RandomnessYes, I believe it is.
22:22.43Liquid_Inksends Wormy to the debronification centre.
22:22.44The_RandomnessYou need a new set of memes
22:22.46dromAngryBirds: http://x3.cdn03.imgwykop.pl/c3201142/comment_gAH1Ro2tg70GptfJQ1urs6UoQEQ3EbOC.jpg
22:22.54WormyThe ultimate weapon is friendship :3 http://www.xenology.info/Xeno/18.8.htm
22:23.30The_Randomnessoh you
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22:23.42The_Randomnessnublaup
22:23.48OluapPlayerrandum
22:24.04Technobliteratordumbo
22:27.00dromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoB8t0B4jx4
22:27.23dromWarning, contains a [cute] spider.
22:27.33Cyrannian~sit OluapPlayer
22:27.33infobotACTION puts on 200lbs, sits on OluapPlayer and squishes him
22:27.35dromDon't say that I didn't warn you Liquid_Ink.
22:27.47OluapPlayer~steal Cyrannian
22:27.47infobotACTION grabs Cyrannian and gives it to oluapplayer
22:27.53Liquid_Inkbeats drom up.
22:28.25dromComon, you are an aussie. Move the gear up!
22:29.00Liquid_InkYeah no.
22:29.49dromuses the C word*
22:30.35CyrannianCacodemomania!
22:31.07WormyHachiman, drom:  Please watch this channel.  It is cute and educational https://www.youtube.com/user/poocheeandpansy/videos
22:31.28drom>MS paint
22:31.29HachimanWormy: That person needs to eat a hot bag of dicks
22:31.52CyrannianI just saw that someone on SWTOR wiki was banned until Mon, 03 Sep 3000 10:38:11 GMT. Seems fair
22:32.01The_Randomnessrekt
22:32.01Hachimanolol
22:32.04dromWormy: Sorry, but I don't like MS Paint videos.
22:32.11HachimanGet shrekt
22:32.19The_RandomnessIt's all ogre for him
22:33.00Monet_Cyrannian: Was a reason given?
22:33.19Wormydrom:  Oh there is live acting too
22:33.20Cyrannian"Inserting false and extremely innapropriate information on a page with no relevance to the words added"
22:34.10Wormylink please
22:34.20WormyIt may make my night
22:34.41dromYes. Yes! YES! Please!
22:34.47Cyrannianhttp://swtor.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Log/block
22:35.18WormyHachiman:  It has all the skellingtons you want
22:35.44drom"TheTruthRevealed"
22:36.49dromWe should also make a ban on him. The year is though set to 2803
22:37.13HachimanWormy: FUCKING UGH
22:37.45Wormyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NoAxZd3ekM&list=UU-dzoLX-uU-Mj_YlvPBi2MQ&index=6
22:37.54HachimanYou rotten bastard
22:38.03HachimanThat skeleton was too spooky
22:38.06dromHachiman: lemme cure that with this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h03QBNVwX8Q
22:39.16WormyIt was only your friend Freddie
22:42.30WormyDon't be afraid.  None of this is real.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il4DGJxZRv4&index=1&list=UU-dzoLX-uU-Mj_YlvPBi2MQ
22:42.52dromFreddie's pizza!
22:43.39Monet_Any suggestions as to how i could make the DI's tech page mroe reader-friendly other than more pictures?
22:44.47The_RandomnessI'll take a look at it in a few minutes, mind throwing me a link?
22:45.29Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Technology working on it now. My main concern is its pretty big
22:48.15dromNew satw comic, <c-word ending with a hissing> http://satwcomic.com/art/surprise-party.png
22:49.28dromawakes Angrybirds*
22:52.54dromI guess I gotta stockup alot of food to get those. http://imgur.com/gallery/qbPzH
22:57.40CyrannianOluap and I are working on a cool new Cyrannian War subplot involving a pivotal battle in the war between the Empire and the Imperial State
22:57.48The_Randomness:o
22:58.22HachimanOoh sweet
22:59.02dromSweet!
22:59.12Wormyschweet
22:59.14OluapPlayerYus
23:01.20OluapPlayerIt has lots of punchy action
23:01.42dromI have gotten this idea to expand NC's economy and industry to Private Security line.
23:02.03HachimanYes, wars nowadays need more punching action hur
23:02.59Monet_Why punch when you can toss ISBMs?
23:03.14dromHypermatter missles.
23:03.33Monet_drom: Those could count as ISBMs
23:03.36dromIt's gettin' late for me, ee ya.
23:03.36HachimanBecause using your fists is far more manly
23:04.11dromHachiman: Your amound of manliness and sexual drive will be your death.
23:04.21HachimanThen it will be a manly death
23:04.27Monet_Yes because manliness is what wins wars
23:04.48HachimanMonet_: Worked for Rambo hur
23:04.51dromSee ya.
23:05.12Monet_He also had an LMG.
23:05.28Monet_He used more than his fists
23:06.24HachimanMonet_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQIoQrm1rGs This man punches God to death
23:07.01Monet_Okay
23:07.37Monet_I'm going to stop now.
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23:09.58WormyBlack Screen of Death
23:10.01Monet_Hmm either TOR or a bit more work onteching-up the Imperium...
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23:14.14Wormybrave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVy7YeeqGZQ&list=UUdZwMpK-iWqCos46xPscDeg
23:14.17Wormyhi
23:19.54Cyrannianbai
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23:41.44Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium/Technology#Quotes Anyone is free to add. Though I might drop it idunno.
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23:54.37Wormyblack screened
23:54.50WormyThis is becoming more frequent
23:55.12Monet_You might want to check your computer for errors or viruses
23:55.28Wormythe computerstill runs with sounds in the background, and doesn't overheat, but the screem goes black
23:55.57WormyLooking in the event viewer it recorded a critical error but didn't give a reason
23:58.14Monet_Hmm

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