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00:26.36infobotmethinks test is not funny
00:27.27Tek0516Hello
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00:32.06DrodoEmpireHey, everyone
00:38.03DefaltHi
00:38.20DrodoEmpireHi
00:49.09Tek0516Hello
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00:55.20Zillafire101Hello guys.
00:55.30DefaltHello
00:57.00TekDroidHello
00:59.09TekDroidHm... any fiction I can do?
01:00.11Zillafire101Hey Angrybirds, are we gonna discuss some fiction?
01:00.31AngrybirdsWe can if you want!
01:07.54TekDroidMaybe I'll go work on the Farengeto religion section. Anything else in http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Trade_Coalition that looks like it could use some work?
01:09.10DefaltStructure section
01:10.21TekDroidStructure?
01:10.41TekDroidOh.
01:20.33TekDroid~test
01:20.33infobotrumour has it, test is not funny
01:21.57TekDroidI'm really bored, if you hadn't guessed. >.<
01:28.08Knight_AlienTek what is the Coaltion's religion?
01:36.34DrodoEmpireVery few nations have a state religion...
01:36.35DrodoEmpire:P
01:36.39DrodoEmpireAnd for good reason.
01:37.22TekDroidThe only member state with a state religion had it removed after its conquest by the Farengeto.
01:37.42DrodoEmpire^
01:37.43TekDroidMostly because said religion was genocidal. XD
01:38.20TekDroidBut there's a couple significant religions, which I'll eventually add.
01:38.28DrodoEmpireAnd I'll again stress the importance of keeping church and state separate in most societies.
01:38.47DefaltUnless it's a theocracy...
01:38.59DrodoEmpireHence "In most societies"
01:39.25DefaltI was providing an example.
01:39.31DrodoEmpireAlright.
01:39.32DrodoEmpireSorry
01:39.56DefaltIt's ok, I was joking.
01:40.21Knight_AlienWell what are the Religion's that reside inside of the Coaltion Tek?
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01:42.34Zillafire101Hey guys.
01:43.34Knight_AlienHello
01:44.13TekDroidThere's Gargatorian Spodism, a Modian religion, and that's all I've really decided so far.
01:44.40Knight_AlienOh.
01:45.29DrodoEmpireA bunch of Drodoian ones.
01:45.33DrodoEmpireOh wait
01:45.37DrodoEmpireWrong coalition
01:45.38DrodoEmpireXD
01:46.13Zillafire101Hey Angrybirds.
01:46.51Knight_AlienWow how many Drodo religions are their (Besides Confucianism)
01:47.39DrodoEmpireWell that's an import. :P
01:47.42DrodoEmpireSo fair two
01:47.45DrodoEmpire*far
01:48.07DrodoEmpireBoth of which I loosely based on Earth religions
01:48.32DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire/Religions - Here
01:48.49DrodoEmpireI have more to write, though
01:49.33Knight_AlienMaybe you could even add one 0u0
01:50.59Zillafire101interesting, I did a similar thing with my fiction.
01:51.03DrodoEmpireAh
01:51.22Knight_AlienYou know I made the Eldarisain Milky way colonies for a reason.....
01:52.31Zillafire101In fact, Drodo, would you mind if I used your chirstianty idea in my fiction, symbol included?
01:53.03DrodoEmpireWell the symbol isn't mine; Its from Europa Universalis. XD
01:53.08DrodoEmpireSo yes you may
01:53.17Zillafire101Thank you.
01:53.20DrodoEmpireI didn't come up with christianity, so its okay even if you didn't ask
01:53.25DrodoEmpireXD
02:01.46Zillafire101I was just thinking of the symbol.
02:02.29DrodoEmpireI didn't come up with that either; Even if I did its okay for you to use it.
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02:02.42GD12Hello everyone
02:02.49Zillafire101Hello.
02:03.53Zillafire101<PROTECTED>
02:04.09Zillafire101My link worked! Finally!
02:04.13Zillafire101What do you think?
02:04.45GD12I'm beginning to read through it, it also looks like a massive page
02:04.51GD12Which is pretty awesome
02:05.18Zillafire101Yeah, the Mendel like their buddies so much, they burrow their gods.
02:05.27Zillafire101And put them in their religion.
02:05.28GD12Wow thats a massive edit
02:05.40GD12I doubt I'll get through all of it today but some entries look very well detailed.
02:06.47Zillafire101I just tweaked some Bionicle lore.
02:06.58Zillafire101And gaelic.
02:24.32Vincent20100Hey!
02:25.31Zillafire101Hello.
02:25.40Zillafire101And good night all. I have to go.
02:26.22Vincent20100++
02:26.27GD12Hello
02:26.42GD12How goes your  fiction Vincent20100 ?
02:26.56Vincent20100Good.
02:27.01Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic
02:27.03Vincent20100HAve al ook
02:27.10Vincent20100*Have a look.
02:29.25GD12Nice to see a fiction with an explicitly written education section
02:29.30GD12Especially one with a focus on mathematics :)
02:30.06GD12I think I gave my fiction an educational policy which killed the bottom 10% of exam scorers on the Tyranny-wide exam at age 6
02:30.36GD12Inspired by the Asian semi-joke that "My parents will kill me if I fail"
02:31.20GD12I also went into extreme detail on the curriculum iirc
02:31.26GD12Just short of grading policies
02:31.48Vincent20100Thanks
02:32.04GD12But yeah, your fiction looks very good
02:32.08Vincent20100Even thought education in my republic is kinda brainwashing ^^
02:32.20GD12Same here kinda
02:32.25GD12Indoctrination/Brainwashing = education
02:32.31Vincent20100YAh
02:32.45GD12Also I was reading through your page, just as a note the Fiction Grox are much more powerful than in-game Grox
02:33.01Vincent20100Ho
02:33.09GD12I'm pretty sure they are Mid-Low Tier 1, but they have fragmented now due to the New Grox Wars (happened 4 years ago iirc)
02:33.18Vincent20100But I also read the Milky Way Grox have been wiped out, no?
02:33.55GD12I think the current fluff is Milky Way Grox have either been wiped out, absorbed into the Civilization, or are now a group called the Grox Meta-Facists
02:34.00GD12Which are the remnants of the Grox Meta-Empire
02:34.25Vincent20100I see
02:34.34Vincent20100What's your fiction?
02:35.12GD12The Drakodominatus Tyranny
02:35.39GD12They're dead as of 2795 but due to my  frequent wiki hiatuses due to higher education me and probably 75% of the wiki still have stuff to do in fiction regarding them
02:36.05GD12tl;dr a fiction powerful and aggressive enough to wage war on essentially the Gigaquadrant minus CyraEmp and the Xhodocto
02:36.12Knight_AlienThe Tyranny were a facist sort of call all genocider group.
02:36.26GD12Of course it losees the war in the end (that part still ahs to be written up) but its supposed to be a massive war
02:36.27Knight_AlienThat is my perspective that is.
02:36.48GD12I think someones commented before that they make Nazi Germany/Mongols look like good guys
02:37.18GD12This is the part that has to be written up
02:37.18GD12http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Mirus_Campaign
02:37.26Knight_AlienIt was that trolling nazi guy problably.
02:37.39GD12Probably in November/December as when I start getting lots of work I wont be able to Fic
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02:37.49GD12Knight_Alien : Its actually probably pretty true
02:38.21GD12Given that Tyranny policy on conquered worlds is either mass-torture/extermination/enslavery
02:38.36Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Upstarts/Invasion_of_Drenmarr#Games_of_Power
02:39.27Vincent20100I love that part...
02:39.37Vincent20100Very Stalin-like.
02:40.15GD12Yeah thats very Stalin Like
02:41.12Vincent20100I just love how he make them die of ''accidents''.
02:41.39GD12Thats pretty innovative (I doubt anyone else on the wiki has done that) and cool
02:42.13AngrybirdsI am very proud to present France's new fighter: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Torrent :D
02:42.19Vincent20100I'm gonna buy Galactic Adventure tomorow.
02:42.41Vincent20100I heard it help a lot to make "Battle-like" pictures
02:42.46AngrybirdsGD12 TekDroid OfficerJackal
02:42.53OfficerJackalHm?
02:42.58GD12oh dat one
02:43.05Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Torrent
02:43.51GD12Thats an incredibly awesome model
02:44.00GD12Also nice start on the page
02:44.24Vincent20100Meanwhile, I'm still using these: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic?file=Kirov_Multi-purpose_Airship.png
02:44.39AngrybirdsDanke. I'm thinking of elaborating on several French loadouts, as well as the F1 variant.
02:44.54AngrybirdsWhich is the one-seater dummed down export version.
02:45.16Vincent20100Does it deliver Baguettes as payloads? ^^
02:45.22GD12HUR
02:45.34Vincent20100*humour*
02:45.52GD12Perhaps it has an interceptor and anti-ship configuration
02:46.45GD12Again thats a fucking incredible model.
02:46.53Vincent20100Yah
02:46.58AngrybirdsIt's actually designed to be highly adaptable in combat, capable of switching armament types very quickly. i.e. it could switch out its hyperspatial weapons for ones to be used in realspace.
02:47.02Vincent20100I wish I was good as that to create vehicules
02:47.04AngrybirdsDanke :D
02:47.21AngrybirdsI started the model in March, and basically spend half a year fine-tuning it.
02:48.13Knight_AlienI am going to make a space station for the Eldarisian's for future Roleplaying and events right now.
02:48.22OfficerJackalAngryBirds: Just got around to looking at it, anyways, woah! It looks great!
02:48.24AngrybirdsCool!
02:48.41AngrybirdsThis is what it looked like in late may, I think:
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02:49.20Angrybirdswww.i.imgur.com/i7iryrh.png
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02:49.32TekDroidAngrybirds: Looks great.
02:49.48AngrybirdsTekDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Torrent
02:50.04TekDroidSaw it.
02:50.07AngrybirdsLet me get the export model so I can tempt you guys.
02:50.29Vincent20100You know what would be cool
02:50.57Vincent20100If other fiction empires bought some vehicules from other empires, and includ them in their missions.
02:51.52GD12Thats the entire point of the Arms Market
02:52.07GD12Angrybirds : Lots and lots of improvement on that model
02:52.19GD12Angrybirds I believe started the trend of fictions selling vehicles to other fictions
02:52.29Knight_AlienI have bought many French ships and I use them.
02:52.40AngrybirdsVincent20100 : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AArms_Market
02:52.48AngrybirdsA lot of people have bought French ships :D
02:53.01Knight_Alienhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire/Space_Fleet Eldarisian stuff.
02:53.08Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Mirage
02:53.16AngrybirdsLook at the list of users :D
02:53.32Knight_AlienI am selling the scoutian on the Arms market.
02:54.00GD12notes the lack of Land Battleships on the Arms Market
02:54.20GD12Dominatus - lol practical people
02:55.01Vincent20100Mmm...
02:55.13Vincent20100I want to sell my vehicules too!
02:55.28AngrybirdsFrance - Says the empire that collapsed.
02:55.49GD12Completely Extinct founding speices as well
02:56.20Knight_AlienVincent you can go right ahead for noly profit awaits.
02:56.22GD12The Tyranny's entire army is founded of Rule of Cool basically
02:56.34GD12*founded on the principle of
02:58.03GD12Vincent20100 : You should probably consult with other users before assigning the quality ratings to your vehicles
02:58.12Vincent20100YAh
02:58.47Vincent20100No plasma/laser weapons?
02:58.55GD12What do you mean?
02:59.15Vincent20100Well...
02:59.30Vincent20100In most sci-fi movie, people use energy weapons instead of firearms
02:59.43Vincent20100are erngy weapons (plasma, laser etc.) allowed?
02:59.51Vincent20100Or is it like "too Op"?
02:59.56GD12Yeah they're allowed
02:59.58AngrybirdsThey're definitely allowed.
03:00.02GD12There are alot of more OP things
03:00.32Vincent20100I know but
03:00.33AngrybirdsMost of the vehicles listed have plasma shields, and many use plasma and other such weapons.
03:00.44Vincent20100Most weapons on the arms market seems to be ballistics one
03:00.51Vincent20100Ok!
03:00.51GD12Cannon is a general term iirc
03:00.59GD12It doesn't necessarily mean ballistic weapons
03:01.02AngrybirdsBallistics weapons, we assume, are still able to compete.
03:01.12AngrybirdsAnd in some situations, they're thought to be more practical.
03:01.43GD12Heck Dominatus tanks are arguably the most powerful in terms of raw firepower and use ballistic weapons as their main guns
03:02.01GD12So its defeinitely not that energy weapons are too OP
03:02.12GD12Vincent20100 : I guess you're adding the Apocalypse tank?
03:02.20Vincent20100Yah
03:02.22Vincent20100But later
03:02.44Vincent20100Originally, in the spore-game definition, I wrote they were using twin plasma cannons.
03:03.00Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic?file=Apocalypse_Tank.png
03:03.06AngrybirdsExport variant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File%3ATorrent_F1.png
03:03.36Vincent20100What is EMC?
03:03.43GD12ECM?
03:03.44AngrybirdsECM*
03:03.47GD12electronic Counter Measures
03:03.53Angrybirdshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_countermeasure
03:04.12GD12Another innovation that Dominatus armor mostly missed out on
03:07.58Vincent20100Well, gotta go sleep now
03:08.02GD12night
03:08.05GD12ive got to go now too
03:08.07Vincent20100We will see about that next morning
03:08.07GD12cyall later
03:08.16AngrybirdsTorrent F1 is much smaller than the Torren and only has one seat, but incorporates the same basic design and hyperspatial technology. It strips a lot of the more expensive and advanced gadgets which render the base Torrent OP.
03:08.23Vincent20100I have PLENTY of arms models in reserve
03:08.42AngrybirdsCool!
03:08.43Vincent20100Yah
03:08.50Vincent20100Actually, the APR is at war.
03:09.07Vincent20100So we may test some models on the field
03:09.16Knight_AlienWith da republicz
03:09.21Vincent20100Yah
03:09.31Knight_AlienI doz me history.
03:09.38Vincent20100With Drenmarr Republic and the capitalists swines of the Kioskrium Collective.
03:09.38Knight_AlienXD
03:10.05Vincent20100Anyway, ++
03:10.30Knight_AlienI have a basic Military page I think.
03:10.40Knight_Alienhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire/Space_Fleet
03:10.58Knight_Alienhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire/Ground_Forces#Equipment
03:11.22Knight_AlienI never been a super Military is might sort of guy.
03:11.37Knight_Alien*I have*
03:11.59Knight_AlienThat is DrodoEmpire territory.
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03:20.07TekDroid~test
03:20.07infoboti guess test is not funny
03:21.11Knight_Alienhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Space_station_Ether Station Ether!!!!
03:22.50Knight_AlienThoughts?
03:23.21AngrybirdsThere isn't much on the page. xD
03:23.39Knight_AlienWell that is true but the Idea!
03:25.42AngrybirdsDefinitely. Reminds me of DS9
03:25.53Knight_Alien?
03:26.39AngrybirdsNevermind,
03:29.26Knight_Alien:{
03:30.36Knight_AlienWhile I edit my little friend Ether look at this! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Foundation_of_Eldarisian_Science#Navigation
03:31.14AngrybirdsCool!
03:34.28Knight_AlienThat is what the Heer have to deal with.
03:34.39Knight_AlienHi
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03:40.31Knight_AlienI just noticed He left , not joined -_-
03:51.17DrodoEmpiretest
03:54.06DrodoEmpiretest
03:59.17Knight_AlienAdded some more to space station Ether http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Space_station_Ether
04:00.53TekDroidHello
04:01.02Knight_AlienHi
04:09.25Knight_AlienFinished.
04:09.30Knight_AlienThoughts.
04:09.33Knight_Alien?
04:12.05DrodoEmpireIts good, though the grammar can be cleaned up
04:12.18DrodoEmpireAnd the "deactivation signaler" is pretty vague.
04:12.19DrodoEmpire:P
04:12.29DrodoEmpireHow does it deactivate ships? What is its effectiveness?
04:12.46DrodoEmpirePerhaps replace it with advanced EMP and cyberwarfare capabilities?
04:13.04DrodoEmpireJust more descriptive and plausible imo
04:14.09Knight_AlienThe main explination is in the Space fleet of the Empire http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eldarisian_Empire/Space_Fleet
04:14.35Knight_AlienNot really a explination.....
04:14.40Knight_AlienHmm.....
04:15.32DrodoEmpireNo, I can't find any reference. :P
04:16.41Knight_AlienIt is mostly a Virus of a sort that goes into the Ships systems most of the time undetected and it awaits the Signal to kill the ship.
04:16.50Knight_AlienBetter?
04:16.52DrodoEmpireHmm...
04:16.57DrodoEmpireSo cyberwarfare.
04:17.01DrodoEmpireAnd yes, better. :P
04:17.12Knight_AlienYa.
04:18.59TekDroidAlright, gotta wake up in 5 hours for tomorrow's activities. >.< Goodnight.
04:19.23Knight_AlienNighty
04:19.47TekDroidHopefully I can sleep on the bus. :/
04:20.02Knight_AlienHow does this sound for a Empire police     The Empire has a police force, It keeps crime extinct since their is hardly any crime. The Metro police focus mainly on rooting out Pirates and shady trade deals in the outer systems.  They wear a Nano-based outfit that is weak against constant strikes but is very light. They wear a Mask that conceals their face and they use Plasma pistols and Stun batons. The Empires police force i
04:20.24Knight_Alienshment is death , they gain information on certain groups of Pirates or gangs by forms of Torture and if a member is captured he is tortured until broken , once broken and has told the Information needed the captured Pirate is killed or Arrested.
04:20.53DrodoEmpireSo in other words they're draconian military policemen.
04:21.10DrodoEmpire:P
04:21.37DrodoEmpireWe've since learnt that police brutality and heavily armed officers only breed unrest amongst the citizenry; And Torture is a HORRIBLY ineffective way of extracing information
04:21.57Knight_AlienTorture is used against criminals.
04:22.00DrodoEmpireSo?
04:22.06Knight_AlienCrime is mostly extinct.
04:22.08DrodoEmpireIts also a terrible way of getting info.
04:22.19DrodoEmpireNot if you're using such draconian methods.
04:22.22Knight_AlienThe Police reside mostly in the outer systems.
04:22.34Knight_AlienPirate activity and such.
04:22.46DrodoEmpireYou're telling me the conclusion and I'm telling you why the trail to it is wrong; You can't tell me the conclusion again and expect me to agre
04:22.48DrodoEmpire*agree
04:23.14Knight_AlienYou explain the problem so I am not confused.
04:23.20DrodoEmpireAgain, torture is a stupid way of getting info, death penalty for literally everything would only breed fury and anger,
04:23.46DrodoEmpireand heavily-armed policemen roaming the streets and police brutality also breed discontent and even revolt.
04:23.58Knight_AlienThey ar enot heavily armed.
04:24.03DrodoEmpireYou can only beat down and repress population for so long
04:24.24DrodoEmpireFine, a minor point of my argument anyhow.
04:24.29Knight_AlienThe police don't roam the streets beating down houses killing people.
04:24.44DrodoEmpireSo? They use torture and execute on a whim.
04:24.46Knight_AlienThey attack Pirate groups!
04:24.57DrodoEmpireThe fact that they aren't genocidal doesn't help
04:25.06DrodoEmpireThat isn't the only crim,e that exists!
04:25.08DrodoEmpire:P
04:25.25Knight_AlienIt is the only major crime in the Empire.
04:25.30DrodoEmpireYou'd also be dealing with petty criminals (thieves, etc.), organized crime, etc.
04:25.31DrodoEmpireHow?
04:25.32DrodoEmpireWhy?
04:25.42DrodoEmpireThat in itself sounds unlikely.
04:25.54Knight_Alien*Facepalms himself*
04:25.58DrodoEmpireAre you telling me no one EVER pickpockets or attempts to rob.
04:26.00DrodoEmpire*?
04:28.04Knight_AlienThe Eldarisian people are tied by Religion and Empire laws most don't disobey those two areas and those who do not listen cause crime but unless it is Pirating or some other thing in the outer system they are not beaten.
04:28.54Knight_AlienThe Empires people and Pirates are two different things.
04:28.54DrodoEmpireWhy do they not disobey? Are they a hivemind?
04:29.12Knight_AlienNo they have free will.
04:29.44DrodoEmpireWith free will you give anyone the ability to commit a crime; There are plenty of people and plenty of opportunities to commit one in every situation and area
04:30.06DrodoEmpireReligion and tight laws will stop most, the law-abiding citizens but will have no bearing on criminals
04:30.20DrodoEmpireLaws or no laws, religion or no religion they will commit crime.
04:30.28Knight_AlienYa.
04:30.37DrodoEmpireSo police, even a small presence is always necessary in a non-hivemind.
04:30.39DrodoEmpire:P
04:30.58DrodoEmpireIn other words, other crimes, even if the rates are very low, still happen.
04:31.11DrodoEmpireIts frankly ridiculous to think otherwise.
04:31.13DrodoEmpire:L
04:31.27Knight_AlienMost police Reside in the outer systems.
04:31.34Knight_AlienEven Ether have police.
04:31.47DrodoEmpireSo you agree that a poice presence is important elsewhere?
04:31.54DrodoEmpireAnd obviously other crimes happen?
04:31.55DrodoEmpire:P
04:31.59DrodoEmpire*police
04:32.46Knight_AlienCrimes happen but Crime is not big it is small (big crimes still happen though).
04:33.01DrodoEmpireWell then that's perfectly reasonable.
04:33.05Knight_AlienIn the outer system crime is bigger influence wise.
04:33.11DrodoEmpireThat makes sense.
04:33.20Knight_AlienPolice reside mostly their.
04:33.26DrodoEmpireI still have MAJOR reservations against the punishments (capital punishment and the use of torture)
04:33.41DrodoEmpireBut at that point its your descision
04:34.03Knight_AlienThe Police does not beat Citizen's nor tourment them.
04:34.14Knight_AlienThey are sent to jail.
04:34.25Knight_AlienAnd given a punishment.
04:34.29DrodoEmpireAlright, just seemed like they where very north korea-esque from what you said
04:34.35Knight_AlienPirates are beaten and tourtured.
04:34.51DrodoEmpireWhich is pretty sick. :L But its your choice.
04:38.14Knight_AlienPirates are a plague in the galaxy.
04:38.30DrodoEmpireDepends on where.
04:38.40Knight_AlienThey kill ravage , murder , rape and such.
04:39.12Knight_AlienSo they deserve the punishments if they are caught.
04:45.18Knight_AlienThe Eldarisian's are not always nice.
04:45.30Knight_Alien:{
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04:46.05Knight_Alien:{
04:46.08Knight_AlienThe Eldarisian's are not always nice.
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04:48.01Knight_AlienThree Drodos!
04:48.13Knight_AlienAB another cloner is here.
04:48.27Knight_AlienYour not alone :D
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04:51.12DrodoEmpireThis internet's stupid right now.
04:51.17DrodoEmpireI have no connection. :P
04:51.41DrodoEmpireNight everyone
04:53.18Knight_AlienNighty
04:59.04Knight_AlienAB do you think beating pirates is sick?
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05:18.12Liquid_InkI need to do something to establish that the Ravon Syndicate has pretty nifty bio and neuro surgeons.
05:19.15Liquid_InkI just looked it up and biosurgery has a completely different meaning from what I thought it did
06:11.39Knight_AlienI see Liquid.
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07:11.04GhelaeHello.
07:12.19Liquid_InkWait
07:12.45Liquid_Ink[17:11] <Ghelae> Hello.
07:12.46Liquid_InkI didn't see Ghelae enter.
07:12.54Liquid_InkHe's not listed on the names of people.
07:13.00Liquid_InkI didn't see him leave.
07:13.11Liquid_InkKnight_Alien you still alive?
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07:13.50GhelThat must have been one of the quickest disconnections I've ever had.
07:14.19Liquid_InkOkay that was like the weirdest thing.
07:14.28Liquid_Ink[17:11] <Ghelae> Hello.
07:14.32Liquid_Ink17:12] <Liquid_Ink> I didn't see Ghelae enter.
07:14.35Liquid_Ink[17:12] <Liquid_Ink> He's not listed on the names of people.
07:14.39Liquid_Ink[17:13] <Liquid_Ink> I didn't see him leave.
07:14.53Liquid_InkReally creepy.
07:15.43GhelHave you turned off notifications of joins/quits?
07:16.15Liquid_InkNo, because I saw you reenter just then, and I saw Gaseous Ink come on and leave.
07:16.33GhelAlso, that shouldn't explain why you didn't see me on the list of names.
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07:26.45ImperiosLiquid_Ink: http://rkrishnamani.tumblr.com/ You have an Indian twin
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07:40.10AngrybirdsUgh... Why must the French Army jet scheme be blue... And why must the sky be blue...
07:42.02drom_sick*snorts in a boogie* ...h-hi.
07:42.46Angrybirdso.O
07:44.52drom_sickYou know, my cold has gotten worse.
07:45.28AngrybirdsI'm sorry to hear that :(
07:46.40drom_sickLuckly though, this isn't a lethal mutation of the virus. (I hope.)
07:48.00AngrybirdsWell, I wish you a swift recovery.
07:48.19drom_sickThanks.
07:50.57Liquid_InkImperios: wat
07:51.30drom_sickwhat did he say?
07:51.49Liquid_Ink[17:26] <Imperios> Liquid_Ink: http://rkrishnamani.tumblr.com/ You have an Indian twin
07:54.02drom_sickHe does even use instagram filters
07:54.18drom_sicksuffocates in rage and boogey mucus*
08:13.05Angrybirdsdrom_sick : I thought you might appreciate this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Torrent
08:14.49drom_sickNice model. I'll read it through.
08:14.57AngrybirdsDanke :D
08:28.11AngrybirdsI'd love to hear what you think once you're done.
08:35.55drom_sickOh yeah. The trivia encourage me to write a bit more about my creature in it's trivia section.
08:37.41AngrybirdsOh? That's where I put in a bunch of meta information that doesn't really fit anywhere else.
08:39.40drom_sickIt's still a good thing. Good writing = encourages people to write more. That's my opinion and vision though.
08:40.07Angrybirds;) Yeah, I think that's a really positive thing.
08:40.21drom_sickThe variations are interesting and have a more reabable layout.
08:40.41drom_sickBut it's still stenious for me to read the captions.
08:40.54AngrybirdsHow can I make it easier?
08:41.59drom_sickMaking the font larger. But I don't think you have to do.
08:42.41drom_sickBecause it's probably because I'm the only guy who have hyperopia here.
08:43.11AngrybirdsRight. I can see how it would be a problem, though. I'll look out for a solution, but I can't really make the text bigger without making it -too- big.
08:43.33AngrybirdsI'm personally really excited because I've been planning the release of the Torrent since March. ;)
08:43.40drom_sickThe quote sounds, poetic.
08:45.15drom_sickTexts with small fonts are usually okay to me when they not more than 2 or 3 sentences long. Less if the sentences are long.
08:46.54AngrybirdsRight. If you ever want me to take a look at one of your pages, let me know!
08:49.14drom_sickHeh. Thanks.
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09:00.43drom_sickwelp. I want bumblebees as pets.
09:04.12Liquid_InkThat's nice
09:05.36drom_sickSaw an TV ad about "Johnny English Reborn".         "English?"     "Much."
09:12.54drom_sickEver played "Vanquish"?
09:13.43Liquid_InkNope.'
09:22.37drom_sickMan. It's amazing to imagine a Naakji soldier to pouch on an enemy and use him as a surfboard to slide along the floor and shoot at the rest.
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09:31.54drom_sickThe pages' layout broke for me. Cause shitty macbook. Oh jolly...
09:31.57drom_sickOh hai.
09:32.12GhelaeHello.
09:42.38drom_sickAngrybirds: I have gotten an idea.
09:42.44drom_sickA page about trade routes.
09:43.17AngrybirdsHm?
09:43.26AngrybirdsTrade routes?
09:43.50drom_sickAll (more or less) publically available or popular routes in a page, those usually used by empires.
09:44.23drom_sickEvery trade route has their own description, history and a table over desiniations, legal goods and which empire use it at most.
09:44.57AngrybirdsThat sounds like a -major- undertaking, though hnnrg... Why must you do this to me, Drom? You must know that I have a weakness for projects like that.
09:45.16AngrybirdsxD
09:45.42drom_sickSince some routes pass different empires and different rules and laws applies to goods.
09:45.51drom_sickWell. I can take that on me.
09:47.36AngrybirdsAnd different routes are owned and policed by different empires.
09:49.12drom_sickAye. Naakji for example allow drugs which is illegal for other empires to pass their territory.
09:52.19drom_sickYou and me now, Liquid_Ink.
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09:52.29AngrybirdsWelp. I got kicked for some reason.
09:52.51Liquid_Inkdrom_sick: Apparently not.
09:54.06AngrybirdsLiquid_Ink : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ATorrent
09:54.13Angrybirdsc
09:54.30Liquid_Inkd
09:54.44drom_sickcrp
09:54.46Angrybirdse
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09:55.02drom_sicka
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09:55.09Angrybirdscrรƒยชpe
09:55.16Liquid_Ink#
09:55.19drom_sickh
09:55.59Liquid_InkIt's a nice page.
09:56.00drom_sick"cdcrpefa2crรƒยซpe#h"
09:56.11drom_sickIs that... someone's password?
09:56.22AngrybirdsIt should be.
09:56.39drom_sickLet's hope that it's not mine then.
09:56.52AngrybirdsDanke. What do you think of the fighter itself? Not the model per se, but the fighter as described? (you don't have to read everything)
09:58.43Liquid_InkIt's cool
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10:04.33Liquid_Inkwut
10:04.49Liquid_InkThe Brits today are being quite inept.
10:15.44Liquid_InkDear god its 8;15 already where does the bloody time go.
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10:18.42Wormyhio
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11:00.26AdmiralPandaAngryBirds: Are you functional?
11:04.45Liquid_InkIf they're not British they're porbably functional.
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11:28.46Liquid_Inkbeats up Impy.
11:28.56Liquid_InkHow's your invasion of Ukraine going?
11:29.03ImperiosGrorious
11:29.16ImperiosBTW can you give me your Tumblr?
11:29.26Liquid_Inkhttp://liquidink21.tumblr.com/
11:29.38Liquid_InkSo what is your actual opinion on what's happening in Ukraine?
11:32.06ImperiosThe price we pay for stability and order; politics
11:32.33ImperiosIraq, Ossetia, Libya, Syria, Ukraine
11:34.19ImperiosI am not against what is happening but I do not support it either
11:36.32ImperiosLiquid_Ink: I need someone to write a story based on black mermaids and their help in saving black captives who attempted suicide by jumping overboard during the slave trade. I need this book written. I need it to have some Yoruba feels to it. I need it. and then I need a film based on it.
11:36.56Imperioshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mami_Wata So, these fellas?
11:37.43Liquid_InkReally I took black mermaids at face value, but that's a really good link.
11:39.04ImperiosMermaid legends are fairly widespread, but they vary depending on culture
11:39.20ImperiosRussian mermaids are a type of undead for example
11:39.32Liquid_InkCool
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11:40.15GhelaeHello.
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11:50.50Knight_AlienHi
11:51.12GhelaeHello.
12:12.21Liquid_InkImperios I don't suppose you could find me that map of a decolonised Russia again could you?
12:13.32Imperioshttp://lurkmore.so/images/7/7d/Future_Map_of_North_Eurasia.jpg
12:15.35AdmiralPandaWhoever handles recruitment in my X-COM game is a fuckwit
12:15.37Liquid_InkOooh thank you
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12:36.01Wormyhi
12:40.17drom_sickoPeople are surely nice to their drunken friends.
12:40.22Liquid_InkImpy: I've just drawn that up in one of my own style maps. Now the question is do I give Crimea back to Ukraine or keep it independant?
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12:42.50drom_sickogib back
13:10.35Wormy_nomhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-29028205
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13:22.45AdmiralPandaThere is a reason monkeys are revered
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13:27.52Xhoups
13:28.12OluapWorkerhi
13:28.13XhoBefore you say anything I'm off sick
13:28.46OluapWorkerI see
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13:36.29Vincent20100Hey
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13:48.36JepardiHi
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14:09.28drom_sickomuch ping outs
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14:15.42GhelaeHello.
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14:50.05drom_sickorip #sporewiki 2014
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15:22.11Wormyhi
15:22.31Xhoups again
15:22.36XhoAnd Wormy as well
15:22.38WormyEveryone is struggling to stay connected today.
15:22.39WormyHi
15:24.20Wormyaye
15:24.20XhoOluapWorker: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309167144 VS http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=309167200
15:24.44Wormymust be an internet storm
15:25.08OluapWorkerWho's the RED Heavy supposed to be?
15:25.19XhoHeavydile
15:25.38OluapWorkerkrok
15:25.57OluapWorkerRED wins cus Seeman
15:25.58OluapWorkerC
15:26.14XhoI was stuck on whether I should have had RED Nightmare Medic or Creepy Medic
15:27.32drom_sickoBack
15:28.48drom_sickoIt looks like that I have developed a slight lactose intolerance.
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15:32.39HachimanHello
15:32.47Wormyhi
15:33.21HachimanI was at a friend's place yesterday so I wasn't able to come on
15:34.09WormySoviet laser tank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug81gOdYLNU
15:34.25OluapWorkerhi
15:35.17drom_sickoI think I found something that woul make dino and Cyrannian proud. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=208627677&searchtext=
15:36.22Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1K17_Szhatie
15:36.51ImpyDroidHi Hachi, hi OP
15:37.12ImpyDroidHachiman OluapWorker: I was at the student initiation ceremony yesterday
15:37.32ImpyDroidTurns out, my faculty is like 90% female
15:37.37ImpyDroidSo most of the time I was surrounded by tons of women
15:38.12drom_sickoAnd something to please the HL2 fanbois. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=262176919&searchtext=
15:38.13HachimanHow lucky
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15:44.03WormyHow could they make such a sci-fi weapon but feature it in such a corny advert https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqLkpcHavZE
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15:45.41DrodoEmpireHey, everyone.
15:46.06drom_sickoHello.
15:46.06DrodoEmpiretest
15:47.11Wormyhi
15:48.26DrodoEmpireHi
15:48.46DrodoEmpireJust got back from a very tense siege game of Shogun 2. XD
15:49.50DrodoEmpireThere was five seconds on the clock when I barely saved the capture point by charging White Bears into their samurai. :P
15:50.01DrodoEmpire*White Bear infantry
15:50.08XhoHachiman: I think there should be a Sepultura parody going "GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT           I AM GROOOOOOOOOOOOT"
15:50.20Hachimanhur
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15:51.24FlaffduckHeya.
15:51.36DrodoEmpireHey
15:52.31FlaffduckHow do you make the links without the Fiction: thing in front of it.
15:53.19DrodoEmpireLike this;
15:53.30DrodoEmpire[[Fiction:Drodo Empire|Drodo Empire]]
15:53.35DrodoEmpireFor example
15:53.43FlaffduckOh.
15:53.48FlaffduckThanks.
15:53.53DrodoEmpireAnytime.
15:54.23DrodoEmpireYou can put anything really beyond the "|" but doing it so there isn't a "Fiction:" is the most common purpose
15:56.05FlaffduckOkay.
16:02.11XhoBah so bored
16:05.20FlaffduckWell what is the current year in the fiction universe?
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16:05.33GhelaeHello.
16:05.55FlaffduckHi.
16:05.58DrodoEmpire2802 I think.
16:06.03DrodoEmpireHi Ghel
16:06.08Wormyhi
16:06.13Xho2802 or 2803
16:06.17DrodoEmpire^
16:06.30WormyI'm still in the 2790's
16:06.32XhoOctober 11th 2803
16:06.42XhoOkay so it's closer to 2804
16:06.43WormyOctober already
16:06.49HachimanWormy: What was the story you told me about? The First and Last Races of Man?
16:06.57Wormytoo fast
16:07.06XhoTek still hasn't put the Kicath calendar on
16:07.09XhoI can't even remember what the Kicath calendar is now
16:07.32Wormyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_and_First_Men
16:09.40XhoJust had an idea of a Fantasy character from the future
16:09.45XhoImagine how messed up that would be
16:11.33XhoFuture character - in 805,000 NA everyone is flying in cars              Pelagrios - in 31 NA everyone is flying with magic carpets fuck you
16:12.44WormyTechnology should never be allowed to advance beyond where it is on Koldenwelt, unless its magitek
16:12.58XhoWell 805,000 years in the future
16:13.25XhoI dunno what a character from the future would be like
16:13.31XhoIf technology doesn't evolve
16:13.53XhoIt would obviously be a chronomancer but what the kind of world Koldnewelt would be like in the future
16:13.59GhelaeWell, you know what they say about magic, advanced technology, and whether or not you can tell the difference between them.
16:14.26WormyTechnology works causally, magic works synchronicity
16:15.19XhoWell I have implied that the Orichalcum Elf technology was indistinguishable from magic at face value
16:15.58WormyOkay, I relent, the magic I'm intersted in cannot be the same magic as magitek.  Magitek is the one indistinguishable from magic
16:16.00GhelaeSo you can have flying cars, as long as the aluminium used to make the body is extracted using a ritual and the antigravity unit is an enchanted sigil.
16:16.12Wormy*from technology
16:16.43XhoThat being said, Ndrhthryr's entire frame is magitek
16:17.22WormyMagitek is already pretty advanced on Koldenwelt
16:18.43GhelaeMost SporeWiki magic, be it Source or Essence isn't like traditional real-world ideas of magic. It's often more like highly ostentatious superpowers.
16:19.00Wormyyeah
16:19.41WormyI tried to make elemental more like a real world concept
16:19.45GhelaeYou don't bind spirits to move objects around; you do it with sheer force of will. You don't request a deity to curse an enemy; you fire a blast of glowing painfulness at them.
16:20.38Wormymeaningful coincidences and wishes do not occur in any Sporewikiverse
16:21.22XhoCaligaduro - being a lazy god i'd rather have my servants blast each other than me
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16:22.07MasterMachineHeyo
16:22.10Wormyhi
16:22.23Wormyello
16:22.57MasterMachineSo, do any of you guys get hyper anxiety when going somewhere completely new on a bus? lol
16:22.58GhelaeHello.
16:23.04XhoAs far as I can tell Asv-Aldz' cultists don't possess magic
16:23.10XhoMoney, yes
16:23.43WormyHave done
16:24.10WormyDon't fall asleep MasterMachine
16:25.03WormyAh money, yes.  Powerful magic it is.
16:26.08WormyOn a serious note, I think essence in the Sci-fiverse is better explained as someyhing physical.
16:26.36MasterMachineWormy: Already at the school (it was an hour long ride from the start of the rout to the end -_-) so no worries xD
16:26.57WormyQuantum consciousness hyperspace telekinesis sounds pretty good anyway
16:27.01MasterMachineBut I kept sitting myself whenever it mentioned "Mongomery" cause that's the school
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17:29.07WormyOh dear oh dear.
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17:41.10CyrannianHello!
17:41.45CyrannianJaysus it's crowded tonight
17:44.17ImpyDroidhttp://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140902174208/spore/images/a/aa/Fortress_Antha.png A very romantic place
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17:47.28Hachimandumternet
17:49.29CyrannianHi Hachi
18:09.48drom_sickoWhy is everyone pinging out?
18:10.05HachimanEither dodgy IRC connection today or everyone's had a falling out
18:11.20drom_sickoirc is dum anyway
18:14.02drom_sickoGhelaway: I think I got something for you. http://imgur.com/gallery/SrPqr
18:14.31ImpyDroidHi
18:14.47ImpyDroidCyrannian: School/College/Uni I presume
18:15.15drom_sickoImpyDroid: Wรƒยถrk
18:15.45drom_sickoAnd. Have  an image. http://i.imgur.com/CJd74IT.jpg?1
18:16.28ImpyDroidDu ist nicht Deutach
18:16.38ImpyDroid*Deutsch
18:20.35drom_sickoNein
18:23.22drom_sickoCyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/9dDmzRk.png
18:24.34Cyrannianolol
18:24.37ImpyDroidHachiman: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140902174208/spore/images/a/aa/Fortress_Antha.png The Inquisition's HQ
18:24.48ImpyDroidPerfect place for romance hur
18:24.59CyrannianOoh, very impressive Impy
18:25.01HachimanLooks pretty daunting
18:25.42drom_sickoRomance. Emo romance.
18:26.53drom_sickoIt looks nice though.
18:27.55ImpyDroidAlso somewhere near that place Javi and Carlini had sex hur
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18:30.12WormyHi
18:30.20HachimanHai Wormy
18:30.57drom_sickoHello.
18:31.41Cyrannian<PROTECTED>
18:33.17WormyHi Cyranniaflower
18:34.02CyrannianDid you play with the Gorn ship yet?
18:34.57Wormyรกยดยบรกยตย’รกยตย— รŠยธรกยตย‰รกยตย—, รกยตย‡รกยตย˜รกยตย— รกยดยต รกยถยœรกยตยƒรกยถยฐ'รกยตย— รŠยทรกยตยƒรกยถยฆรกยตย— รกยตย—รกยตย’ รกยตยรกยตย’รกยตยˆรกยถยฆรกยถย รŠยธ รกยถยฆรกยตย— รกยถยซรกยตยƒรกยตย—รกยตย‰รŠยณ รŠยทรกยถยฆรกยตย—รŠยฐ รกยตย—รกยตย’รกยตย’รกยถยซร‹ยข รกยตยƒรกยถยฐรกยตยˆ รกยตยรกยถยฆรกยตย›รกยตย‰ รกยถยฆรกยตย— รกยตยƒ รกยตยรกยตย’รกยตย’รกยตยˆ รŠยณรกยตย˜รกยถยฐรขย‹ย…
18:35.21GhelHello.
18:35.55WormyรŠยธรกยดยผรกยตยรกยดยฟ'ร‹ยข รกยดยฐรกยดยตรกยดยฐรกยดยบ'รกยตย€ รกยดยฎรกยดยธรกยดยผรกยตย‚ รกยตยรกยดยพ รกยดยฌรกยตย€ รกยดยฌรกยดยธรกยดยธ
18:36.13Wormyรกยดยดรกยดยต
18:36.41CyrannianHai Ghel
18:37.00WormyรกยถยœรŠยธรŠยณรกยตยƒรกยถยฐรกยถยฐรกยถยฆรกยตยƒรกยถยฐ, รกยตยˆรกยตย’รกยตย‰ร‹ยข รกยตย—รŠยฐรกยถยฆร‹ยข รกยตย‡รกยถยซรกยตย‰รกยตย‰รกยตย– รŠยธรกยตย’รกยตย˜รฏยนย–
18:38.19Wormyรกยดยนรกยตย’รŠยณรกยตย‰ รกยถยฆรกยตยรกยตย–รกยตย’รŠยณรกยตย—รกยตยƒรกยถยฐรกยตย—รกยถยซรŠยธ, รกยถยฆร‹ยข รกยตย—รŠยฐรกยถยฆร‹ยข รกยตย—รกยตย‰ร‹ยฃรกยตย— รกยตย›รกยถยฆร‹ยขรกยถยฆรกยตย‡รกยถยซรกยตย‰รฏยนย–
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18:38.30MasterMachine~test
18:38.30infobotfrom memory, test is not funny
18:38.47Wormyรกยตย‚รกยตย‰รกยถยซรกยถยœรกยตย’รกยตยรกยตย‰ รกยตย‡รกยตยƒรกยถยœรกยตย
18:38.53MasterMachinewell this class was interesting
18:39.12MasterMachineNot worth an hour bus ride though lol
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18:40.00MasterMachinehi
18:40.06The_RandomnessHello everyone
18:40.07GhelHello.
18:40.10MasterMachineand bye lol
18:40.11MasterMachineCya
18:40.16WormyรกยดยณรŠยณรกยตย‰รกยตย‰รกยตย—รกยถยฆรกยถยฐรกยตยร‹ยข
18:42.39WormyJust encase my replies were not visible
18:43.44Wormy"Not yet, but I can't wait to modify it later with tools and give it a good run;  Yours didn't blow up at all
18:49.21WormyGhel:  Does it say Holism, Reductionism, or Mu?!  http://newtonexcelbach.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mu-1.jpg
18:49.29Wormyyou might need to zoom in
18:49.58GhelAll three.
18:50.07The_Randomness^
18:50.27GhelBut it looks like the letters are made of smaller letters that are too small to be resolved even when zoomed in.
18:53.09The_RandomnessI'll be back later
18:54.58GhelThe point probably isn't for such a literal answer, of course. :P
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18:55.28Wormy_Ghel:  They say "Mu!"  Scroll down to the Ant Fugue Dialogue, its from GEB http://themindi.blogspot.co.uk/2007/02/chapter-11-prelude-ant-fugue.html
18:55.48GhelIn response to my own answer, I just said, "The point probably isn't for such a literal answer, of course. :P"
18:55.51Wormy_The chapter is about emergence
18:56.34Wormy_You are a true Zen master
18:56.37Wormy_For rejecting the prelude
18:56.42Wormy_*premise
18:56.56Wormy_"... Ant Fugue" is the actual bit
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18:59.44GhelHello.
18:59.47Wormy_hi
19:00.10Monet_Hello
19:00.52Wormy_The Lewish Carrol like dialogues remind me of our conversations
19:01.15Wormy_I think Tortoise probably fits you best
19:03.21Wormy_I especially enjoyed the bit where the Anteater is a friend of the ant colony, but eats the defective ants
19:04.58Wormy_Yet Anteater just rejected Holism...
19:06.15Wormy_Hang on...
19:06.41Wormy_In the last dialogue "[ATTACCA ]" appears in reference to DNA
19:07.37Wormy_ATACTACAT
19:07.50Wormy_There is calls of hidden stuff in GEB
19:08.03Wormy_I wonder if the dialogue has hidden meanings
19:08.25Wormy_One did, the whole story was a palindrome
19:08.50Monet_Wasn't Carrol a mathematician?
19:09.30Wormy_Ah, its the book Godel Escher Bach, but it has a Lewis Carrol style dialogue with every chapter
19:09.32Wormy_http://themindi.blogspot.co.uk/2007/02/chapter-11-prelude-ant-fugue.html
19:09.53Wormy_What does it say Monet_?  http://newtonexcelbach.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/mu-1.jpg
19:11.10Monet_MU. The M is made up of the word "reductionism" and the U is made up of "Holism"
19:13.24Wormy_And all the words are made of Mu too
19:13.50Monet_Hmm, Hofstader and Bennett are both cognative scientists apparently.
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19:15.31JepardiHi
19:15.48Wormy_He is a modern day polymath, with expertise in linguistics, translation, AI and physics and music and visual art
19:16.00Wormy_ACHILLES: Oh, no! The last thing that I wanted to do was to provoke another argument. Anyway, now that I understand the controversy, I believe that my explanation of "mu " will help greatly. You see "mu " is an ancient Zen answer which, when given to a question, unasks the question. Here, the question seems to be "Should the world be understood via holism or via reductionism?" And the answer of "mu" here rejects the premises of the
19:16.13Wormy_Here, the question seems to be "Should the world be understood via holism or via reductionism?" And the answer of "mu" here rejects the premises of the question, which are that one or the other must be chosen. By unasking the question, i reveals a wider truth: that there is a larger context into which both holistic and reductionistic explanations fit.
19:16.35Wormy_ANTEATER: Absurd! Your "mu" is as silly as p cow's moo. I'll have none of this Zen wishy-washiness.
19:16.47Wormy_(lol)
19:17.05Wormy_TORTOISE: Perhaps "MU" exists in this picture on a deeper level than imagine, Achilles-an octave lower (figuratively speaking). But now I doubt that we can settle the dispute in the abstract. I wo like to see both the holistic and reductionistic points of view laid more explicitly; then there may be more of a basis for a decisio would very much like to hear a reductionistic description of an colony, for instance.
19:17.25Wormy_Tortoise is the one who sees deeply and finds a good explanation
19:18.41Hachimanhttp://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/insect-exoskeleton-shedding-having-your-lungs-torn-out
19:21.02Cyrannianohmagerd, Jeri Ryan will be reprising her role as Seven of Nine in the new STO expansion
19:21.54CyrannianOoh, and so will the Doctor and Neelix http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7003173-the-voyager-crew-returns%21
19:23.08Monet_First Tasha Yar, now Seven and the Doctor. They're being very generous.
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19:31.26XhoNot as if anything has actually happened in 2 hours
19:32.19CyrannianHi
19:32.39XhoHello
19:34.33GhelHello.
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19:39.15GhelHello.
19:39.41AngrybirdsI'm really proud to finally release this after working on it for months: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Torrent
19:40.20Xhoups
19:40.28XhoAngrybirds: You might want to put a notice that it shouldn't be confused with the character of the same name
19:40.33XhoThe page that is
19:40.51AngrybirdsI'll put it in the Trivia?
19:41.25XhoYou can but it's more 'professional' to put it at the top of page
19:41.36Monet_Trivia's a good place. Or do what Wikipedia does: "this is for the French strike fighter, for the Kvargo captain of the same name, see Captain:Torrent"
19:41.49XhoDisambiguation basically
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19:42.05HachimanHai
19:42.13HachimanFucking internet
19:42.32GhelHello.
19:42.33Monet_Hi
19:42.53XhoOluapWorker: You should probably do the same in Torrent's trivia just to clear it up
19:43.26Xhohas a feeling he is somewhat digging a hole here
19:43.38HachimanWhat's going on?
19:43.45XhoOh
19:43.53XhoAngrybirds made a page called Fiction:Torrent
19:44.04Angrybirdshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Torrent
19:44.04XhoI'm just saying the two pages should have links to disambiguate the two articles
19:44.13Xhoi.e. the vehicle and the captain
19:44.14Monet_Maybe rename it to Vehicle:Torrent?
19:44.46AngrybirdsI kind of want to keep it in the fiction namespace, unless it -really- bothers people.
19:44.46HachimanWhich article's been around longer
19:45.04Monet_Hachiman: The captain
19:45.18HachimanRight, Birds rename it
19:45.40AngrybirdsIt's not inconveniencing anyone, though?
19:45.44AngrybirdsAs it is.
19:46.39HachimanTrue
19:46.47HachimanI wonder what it would be like for me to shed all of my skin in one go without breathing or eating like insects do
19:46.57XhoGive it a go
19:47.23XhoOh wait Justin Bieber's been arrested again
19:47.30Monet_Again?
19:47.58Monet_Hachiman: Probably a pain in the arse.
19:48.09AngrybirdsXho : Added a notice to the Trivia section.
19:48.34XhoGood good
19:48.39GhelI'm sure shedding all of your skin without eating wouldn't be too hard. Not breathing would make things tricky if it took long enough, though.
19:48.40Monet_Snakes are the largest animals that shed their skin in one go, it help that they're a tube but most legged lizards shed in aptches.
19:48.43XhoJust trying to clear up potential issues on the wiki
19:49.46HachimanApparently for insects shedding the exoskeleton is painful and complications can prove fatal, with such arising from seemingly minor issues such as temperature
19:50.05HachimanScientists are wondering if larval species will be under threat due to climate change
19:50.11XhoWhat kind of evolutionary fail is that
19:51.02Monet_Hachiman: Well, insects are sheding the thing that protects them and retains their body shape.
19:51.21XhoIt's a bit like a woman taking off a corset in the heat
19:51.54XhoAlthough I dunno whether women still wear corsets
19:52.08Monet_Its still a fancy dress item
19:52.50Ghel"What kind of evolutionary fail is that" - that's r-type reproduction: lay enough eggs and any bizarre trait will manage to survive somehow.
19:53.20GhelIt's like those flies that don't just try to escape a room by flying into the windows, but also by flying into the ceiling.
19:53.55ImpyDroidGhel: So zerg rush: evolution basically
19:54.00GhelExactly.
19:54.39Monet_Intelligence is merely one of the ocntributing factors to evolution.
19:54.45GhelNo matter stupid they are, there are just too many for them to all to die.
19:55.10Monet_Anything beyond "do this to not die" is a luxury really.
19:55.15XhoMuch like Asgord
19:55.55GhelAsgord didn't even have the luxury of "do this to not die".
19:57.57XhoWell
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20:01.42Hachimanhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10659279_10152433471779998_4439932045529920837_n.png?oh=9017c7513fff6ee2c0737904974650d5&oe=54624C5F&__gda__=1416536074_8faa7651e9c3c8e9646409f377e152b7
20:03.13Monet_Right. I have a bit of an idea for the ITN's working and other nations if anyone is interested. I'm thinking the Imperium has some kind of "auxillary legions" made up of sub-citizen and foreign volunteers. A bit like the French Foreign Legion I think.
20:04.36Monet_So for example members of other nations could opt to sign up, get a dual-citizenship with the Imperium, get access to using Imperial weaponry and get the appropriate acclimatisation training
20:06.27GhelThat might be fairly popular among people in the Civilisation's dyson swarms.
20:08.42Monet_Its likely yeah.
20:09.15Monet_I figure due to the Imperium's spread it needs to rely on more than its own resident population for manpower.
20:12.28AngrybirdsFrench Foreign Legion - We have reserves! ... in other countries. >:D
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20:14.16AngrybirdsFrance is a -very- attractive place to live since the state essentially takes care of everything for its citizens: food, clothing, entertainment, housing. It doesn't have an open immigration policy except in the colonies, though, because it can't even cope with the exponential growth of its population given that nobody is -dying-.
20:15.37AngrybirdsAnd one of the only ways of getting a French citizenship from the outside is through the French Foreign Legion. Three years of service warrants a citizenship. This means that there is an ENORMOUS waiting list of potential candidates looking to get in.
20:16.37AngrybirdsBut the FFL is a small expeditionary corps of elite soldiers, which means that it doesn't need to build up its numbers that much during peacetime. During wartime, however, it can accept that whole waiting list and essentially get a huge amount of volunteer servicemen which they can train on the fly.
20:16.47Monet_THe imperium is could probably do something similar them, given one of the things the Grand Senate likes doing is esablishing "look how glorious we are" type colonies.
20:21.56Monet_So the Imperial Auxillia Corps could serve as one way to get into those colonies.
20:24.10ImpyDroidAngrybirds: Speaking of France, I wonder why hasn't it changed its flag over the years
20:25.02AngrybirdsThe flag's been the same since 1792, I'm not sure why they'd change it, especially given how its national identity and symbolism is built around it.
20:25.12ImpyDroid...hm, true
20:25.51ImpyDroidIt's not like in Russia where we basically made our flag by taking the Dutch flag and then shuffling the colours
20:26.05ImpyDroid^ this actually happened
20:26.22Monet_Russia - Original flag do not being stealing.
20:26.33ImpyDroidPretty much hur
20:27.34AngrybirdsOr by taking the French flag and flipping it over :P
20:27.51ImpyDroidHon
20:29.05ImpyDroidWell actually our flag is older so probably not
20:30.06Angrybirds1696
20:30.09AngrybirdsYou're right
20:33.53AngrybirdsI have auditions today, and I'm supposed to have a decent upperclass British accent down...
20:34.14AngrybirdsWe'll see if what I've worked on comes close :P
20:34.15ImpyDroidEmulate your arch-enemy hur
20:34.22ImpyDroid*arch-enemies
20:34.53Angrybirdslul
20:35.07AngrybirdsIf it makes the English feel any better, I can't do a French accent to save my life.
20:35.32ImpyDroid...as in?
20:35.40AngrybirdsHm?
20:35.53AngrybirdsI have an American accent normally.
20:36.18Monet_I was going to say. Is this to be a case of an American amulating a Brit?
20:36.23Angrybirds^
20:37.06ImpyDroidAh, so you know French and English but cannot do a French accent for English
20:37.13Angrybirds^
20:37.21ImpyDroidI understand
20:37.27AngrybirdsI had one a looooong time ago.
20:37.37AngrybirdsBut I worked hard on getting rid of it.
20:37.46ImpyDroidWhen I try to do a stereotypical Russian accent I end up sounding really weird
20:38.08ImpyDroidNormally I am trying to emulate a British accent
20:38.16Wormy_If I try to emulate the Welsh accent, I sound Indian.
20:38.26ImpyDroidWith varying success
20:38.47ImpyDroidSome people say I do sound British, others say I still have a Russian accenf
20:39.07ImpyDroidHm, Mon; is my faux British accent authentic?
20:39.36Monet_You mean how you normally speak? I'm not sure if i've heard you emulate a British accent.
20:39.37Wormy_Cyrannian:  LOL Seven of Nine is the only one not to have aged
20:40.06ImpyDroidYeah, I mean speaking normallg
20:40.10ImpyDroid*normally
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20:41.38HachimanI wish my IRC would tell me when I fucking ping out
20:41.41Monet_I'm not sure. Sounds slightly Asian to me.
20:42.18Wormy_I have only heard snippets of your voice, I can't really tell
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20:43.07Wormy_Howdly Doodley
20:43.48CyrannianHi Liquid
20:44.02Liquid_InkHello!
20:44.08Liquid_InkHow is everybody?
20:44.23Wormy_I earned a Gorn vessel!
20:45.11Liquid_InkAwesome!
20:45.13ImpyDroid...I have no idea why I can sound "Asian" hur
20:46.01Monet_Its not too much of a worry. My dad has completely lost his Yorkshire accent.
20:46.08Monet_Wait...
20:47.39Wormy_You are probably used to it
20:48.19Monet_I can tell apart my grandma's and his brothers' Yrokshire accents
20:48.32Wormy_With me, my accent isn't very strong, but sometimes - when I'm not trying, dialect and accent can come out naturally in sentences, and it is strong
20:49.02ImpyDroidI do not have an accent in Russian but I have my personal speech quirks
20:49.15ImpyDroidI speak VERYLOUDANDVERYFAST
20:50.04Wormy_I do drop words quite a bit
20:50.47Wormy_If I demand "come here" to my dog, it will probably go out - com'ere
20:51.03Wormy_COMERE
20:51.44Wormy_http://www.near-chesterfield-derbyshire.com/derbyshire-dialect.html
20:52.46CyrannianNightie night
20:52.55Liquid_InkGoodnight
20:52.57Wormy_Gerraht!...  Get out!
20:53.29Wormy_So yeah, I think people with accents in the UK tend to string words together
20:53.49Monet_Sometimes I find myself switching between grahs and grAs.
20:54.04Wormy_Its often said English people speak slowly but only if you are forced to speak RP
20:54.36Wormy_There is no spaces often with people with accent
20:55.01Wormy_I hate RP btw
20:55.25Wormy_It was invented by the Victorians to squash regional dialects and create a non-existent standard
20:55.44Wormy_They failed luckily
20:56.28Wormy_Nobody really speaks it unless they are the snobbery classes
20:59.30Wormy_Sorry if I've offended anyone
20:59.43Wormy_But I doubt any of you speak with a posh accent
20:59.56Liquid_InkGod damnit he left.
20:59.57Wormy_A forced one
21:00.07Wormy_If you are forcing it
21:00.10Liquid_InkI was about to complain that his map he gave me lacks Arkhangelsk and Sakhalin.
21:00.12Wormy_I see no point
21:01.21Liquid_Inkhttps://40.media.tumblr.com/dc72ca98b1278f5edff554e177808b85/tumblr_n736pna31j1qdn10zo2_500.jpg Dear god the puns
21:02.12Wormy_awaylol
21:03.24Wormy_awaytest
21:03.35Hachimanhttps://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10641139_891853900861801_6880118202545366051_n.jpg?oh=fea4897dea9f379d279427143d37d859&oe=546A575B
21:04.05Wormy_awayPINGAS
21:05.43Liquid_Inkhttp://skyrimstan.tumblr.com/post/94008098913/karlosmadera-im-still-torn-on-whether-this-is
21:09.35Technobliteratorokay, let's move somewhere
21:09.40Technobliteratortitles for the space exploration fic
21:09.43Technobliteratorhit me
21:09.58Liquid_Ink"Exploration of Space"
21:10.23HachimanGardens of Yonder
21:10.41TechnobliteratorGardens of Yonder doesn't sound bad
21:12.14Technobliteratorany more ideas, people?
21:12.14Liquid_InkNew Age of Discovery
21:12.35Technobliteratorthat's not bad either
21:20.53HachimanDecline of Mystery, the Epoch of Greater Enlightenment, the Illumination of Mystery, Substance of the Unknown, the Uncharted Expanse
21:21.21Technobliteratorlet's poll this
21:21.39Liquid_Inkhttps://41.media.tumblr.com/74d979968ed6454996a664ab0abf55d2/tumblr_n9c2m2jUkQ1r7v0gpo1_500.jpg My love life summed up nicely.
21:24.31Technobliteratorpoll up
21:24.33Technobliteratorgogogogo
21:25.27Liquid_InkWherewherewherewhere?
21:27.11Technobliteratoron the thread :o
21:29.17Liquid_InkOh
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21:33.03Knight_AlienHi
21:34.08Technobliteratorand a second poll for co-ordinators
21:34.11Technobliteratorjust because
21:36.44HachimanHow long is the voting period?
21:37.21Knight_AlienWhat are we voting for?
21:37.34Technobliterator2-3 days, I think
21:37.47Technobliterator1. do we want co-ordinators and 2. what do we call this thing
21:38.08TechnobliteratorIf we get lots of votes, it'll only be 1 day
21:38.30TechnobliteratorI want to hurry up and begin this, instead of sitting around discussing it forever but not actually deciding anything
21:38.48Technobliterator(and then being surrounded with confusion)
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21:49.13OfficerJackalHello!
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22:11.30Liquid_InkI'm back
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22:49.54Quark8Hello.
22:50.41Quark8So...
22:50.48HachimanHm?
22:51.31Monet_Hi
22:51.33Quark8I don't know.
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23:07.05HachimanSo apparently NASA's confirmed that our solar system sits within a gigantic bubble of gas leftover from supernovae
23:07.39Monet_I think that's where most nebula matter comes from.
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23:07.52Monet_But its still an amazing thought
23:07.58TekDroidHello
23:08.03Monet_Hello
23:09.22Monet_The collapse of a star many times more massive than our own mother sun, which created a stellar explosion that would ahve vapourised anything in its orbit, one day provided the materials for our own mother sun to be born.
23:09.36Monet_A symphony of lige and death....its almost poetic.
23:09.39Monet_life*
23:10.12HachimanWe're basically the maggots in a star's corpse
23:10.48Monet_I prefer to see us as the daisies that sprouted by leeching off the soil enriched with a dead person's body.
23:11.05Monet_well, dead star's body
23:12.17Monet_But were it not for that star dying, our planet might not have been enriched with elements like gold, silver or uranium.
23:12.32Monet_Elelemts so heavy they could only come from a supernova.
23:14.03HachimanI've been fascinated recently by the idea of antiparticle life and what sort of environments and lifeforms, perhaps even cultures, you would get from an antiparticle build-up
23:14.52Monet_I don't think it will be any different to matter-based life.
23:15.26Monet_Well, the only difference I can think of is the annihilative reaction when ti comes in contact with regular matter.
23:16.55TekDroid^
23:17.14TekDroidOr at least, as far as we know.
23:18.09Monet_What makes antiperticles anti is a reversal of their electric charge. Hence why anti-electrons are called positrons
23:18.57Monet_I think that might be why they're so dangerous to each other; opposites attract
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23:25.52HachimanSo apparently studies are underway to determine whether or not the universe is merely a 'hologram' - this worries me kinda due to the possible cultural backlash that would come out of finding out the universe is artificial, and there's also the possibility that if we manage to discover the truth we could potentially wipe ourselves out as things tend to change when properly observed
23:26.44Monet_Well, its possible that we are of a naturally-formed hologram
23:27.16HachimanNaturally-formed?
23:28.26Monet_Our universe could be a hologram layered just above the event horizon of a black hole.
23:30.09Monet_Not all light that passes a black hole falls into it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_sphere
23:30.58Monet_SOme photons enter a black hole's orbit at just the right angle that they spend practically forever orbiting it.
23:34.30HachimanI have heard a theory that our universe is potentially set "within" a black hole but never the one about it orbiting a black hole
23:35.37Monet_http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140218-black-hole-blast-explains-big-bang/ you mean this?
23:37.08HachimanAye
23:37.36Monet_Well, hypernovae are some of the largest explosions in space, and the Big Bang could potentially have been a very big hypernova.
23:38.22HachimanImplying Big Bang was a literal explosion hur
23:38.56Monet_Well it is. it sent matter outwards.
23:39.45HachimanI prefer to think of it as a rapid expansion rather than a literal explosion
23:39.58HachimanAlthough either way it sent stuff outward
23:40.24Monet_Explosion = rapid expansion if you want to get pedantic. But yeah, stuff went otward
23:40.58Monet_or rapid inflation, either term works.
23:55.16Monet_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium#Industrial_Potential Figured I may as well summarise the Imperium's industrial capacity.
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23:56.08Monet_Hi
23:56.34Monet_Possible shades of dickwaving on that section but the Imperium has been stated to have had a massive industrial capacity for a while.
23:58.04Technobliteratordumno
23:58.06Technobliterator*dumbo
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