| 00:00.01 | Knight_Alien | Yea like to side character ewoka! |
| 00:00.07 | Vincent20100 | I'm just drunk with satan |
| 00:00.18 | drom | beats up Vicent20100* |
| 00:00.19 | Zillafire101 | Booze for the Booze god! |
| 00:00.20 | Knight_Alien | You devil lover! |
| 00:00.26 | drom | I TOLD YOU TO STAY BE DEAD! |
| 00:00.41 | Vincent20100 | ... |
| 00:00.48 | drom | Stay dead. |
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| 00:00.51 | Knight_Alien | hits Vincent20100 with a cross and familiar book. |
| 00:00.59 | DrodoEmpire | And even the instances of inaccuracy can be handwaved with force; I can imagine Luke or Obi Wan perhaps having the ability to throw off their aim by disorienting them, subtly guiding their guns every which way, etc. |
| 00:01.02 | Vincent20100 | LEAVE VODKA ALONE" |
| 00:01.06 | Vincent20100 | ! |
| 00:01.18 | TekDroid | When you look at the Original Trilogy the Empire pretty much kills almost every rebel except the main characters. |
| 00:01.19 | Knight_Alien | Vodka must die you devil lover! |
| 00:01.27 | drom | Vincent20100: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W34iv8jkcGE |
| 00:01.33 | Knight_Alien | enters Frollo mode! |
| 00:01.35 | Zillafire101 | Yeah. The forces does make sence. |
| 00:02.04 | TekDroid | Leia's ship, most of the fighters in the Death Star run, Echo base... |
| 00:02.07 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:02.10 | Vincent20100 | ... |
| 00:02.25 | DrodoEmpire | Almost every pitched battle in the trilogy was a decisive Imperial victory |
| 00:02.30 | TekDroid | Aye. |
| 00:02.37 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 00:02.37 | DrodoEmpire | The victories the Rebels got where costly at best. |
| 00:02.42 | Vincent20100 | Vader rock! |
| 00:02.58 | Vincent20100 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA-rOls8YA |
| 00:03.05 | TekDroid | The second Death Star had the empire decimate multiple capital ships. |
| 00:03.08 | DrodoEmpire | And where mostly luck and overconfidence |
| 00:03.21 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah; Devastating loss for such a small movement |
| 00:03.36 | drom | This is what happened to me today. http://i.imgur.com/V1HWeEq.jpg |
| 00:03.41 | Vincent20100 | This one is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFA-rOls8YA |
| 00:03.51 | Knight_Alien | The Empire must have survived after revenge of the jedi. |
| 00:03.54 | TekDroid | That was implied to be most of the rebel fleet there, IIRC. |
| 00:04.06 | Vincent20100 | The hell Drom?! |
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| 00:04.20 | TekDroid | It did, but without the emperor it really staeted crumbling. |
| 00:04.26 | DrodoEmpire | KA: It did as the Remnant |
| 00:04.48 | DrodoEmpire | And I think a century afterwards they took control again |
| 00:05.05 | Knight_Alien | The Rebels were defeated then. |
| 00:05.05 | TekDroid | In the Expanded Universe I think it was still a year or two before Courasant fell. |
| 00:05.14 | Zillafire101 | Yeah, but a bunch of warlords fromed their own handy empires. Thrawn, etc. |
| 00:05.14 | Vincent20100 | If I remember correclty, the Siths win in the very end of Star Wars storyline |
| 00:05.22 | DrodoEmpire | As a slightly different entity, but the Empire nonetheless |
| 00:05.52 | TekDroid | But before then the original Empire was nearly destroyed. |
| 00:06.01 | Zillafire101 | That's why I go mando. Their the only ones you can't wipe out. |
| 00:07.24 | DrodoEmpire | They aren't THAT impressive imo |
| 00:07.26 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:08.10 | DrodoEmpire | I think the height of their power was several millenia before the events if the two trilogies and they got cut down to size by the Republic in a few wars |
| 00:08.54 | Zillafire101 | They never truly died though. |
| 00:09.16 | Zillafire101 | Until The Clone War made them pacifists. They died, but in a different way. |
| 00:09.31 | DrodoEmpire | I like the change. |
| 00:09.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its realistic |
| 00:09.49 | DrodoEmpire | They adapted to a different time and left behind their barbaric roots |
| 00:10.11 | Knight_Alien | Ya.. |
| 00:10.15 | Zillafire101 | Karen Travis already estplished what they where doing at that time. They wheren't chanign or anything. |
| 00:10.38 | DrodoEmpire | But getting to the point; That's sort of like saying the British Empire never died; Britain still exists but its a shadow of what it once was |
| 00:10.49 | DrodoEmpire | lol Karen Travis |
| 00:10.54 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 00:12.35 | Zillafire101 | Besides, there's nothing barbaric about the mandos. They don't run around killing civilians, considering it dishonorable, and accept all into their ranks. Their just not as nice as Jedi. |
| 00:17.12 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 00:17.42 | DrodoEmpire | https://ipgallery.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/53f3a13839f3f70c24f0d2e7.jpg - Methinks this has several different readings... |
| 00:18.01 | Knight_Alien | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUrWyPJqeSk I just saw a therory that the jedi are evil. |
| 00:18.48 | TekDroid | jedi are too moral guardian to be evil. |
| 00:19.23 | DrodoEmpire | They're simple civil servants; If its anything like that trekkie tirade I read a while ago I'm not gonna like this |
| 00:19.43 | DrodoEmpire | I REALLY hope it doesn't say something stupid like that they're a "nobility" |
| 00:19.48 | Zillafire101 | They use a slave army and abduct children. Sounds kinda evil. |
| 00:20.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ottoman Janaissaries did the same thing; But the citizenry got used to it and even hoped that their child would become one |
| 00:21.12 | Knight_Alien | Some other guy did a therorty on why stormtroopers can't hit anything. |
| 00:21.14 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 00:21.16 | TekDroid | "slave army"? |
| 00:21.23 | DrodoEmpire | Perspective. :P |
| 00:21.33 | Zillafire101 | Clone Troopers |
| 00:21.48 | Zillafire101 | They are breed to fight, and don't have a choice otherwise. THose that do get reconditioned. |
| 00:21.53 | TekDroid | The Republic used the clones, not the jedi. |
| 00:21.59 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:22.04 | DrodoEmpire | Jedi only sometimes-led them |
| 00:22.07 | Zillafire101 | The Jedi went along with it. |
| 00:22.14 | Zillafire101 | Never raised a voice. |
| 00:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | They had no choice |
| 00:22.21 | DrodoEmpire | They're CIVIL SERVANTS |
| 00:22.28 | DrodoEmpire | Its not their position to do so |
| 00:22.40 | TekDroid | By that point the order had decayed anyway. |
| 00:22.41 | Knight_Alien | Are you guys raging about the link I posted? |
| 00:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | Especially in such a time of danger and strife. |
| 00:23.07 | Knight_Alien | Or somthing else? |
| 00:23.27 | DrodoEmpire | That's what started it, perhaps |
| 00:23.52 | DrodoEmpire | Now we're mostly questioning Zilla's position |
| 00:23.56 | Zillafire101 | Jedi, aren't they supposed to be guardians of a galaxy, not government workers? |
| 00:24.05 | DrodoEmpire | They can be both. |
| 00:24.07 | Knight_Alien | Ya. |
| 00:24.10 | DrodoEmpire | :/ |
| 00:24.25 | Liquid_Ink | I bet the bastards are tax exempt. |
| 00:24.34 | DrodoEmpire | They're used by the republic to protect the citizenry as an elite police force, and also lead the armies |
| 00:24.34 | Hachiman | Jedi are dum and hypocritical |
| 00:24.35 | Knight_Alien | Jedi:F*** government working! |
| 00:24.53 | Hachiman | Preach about "the Balance" -> Try to stomp out the Sith who are their philosophical opposite |
| 00:24.53 | DrodoEmpire | Is this always right or good? No. But that's the long and short of it |
| 00:25.17 | Zillafire101 | Our Balance demands your sacrifie. |
| 00:26.34 | Zillafire101 | I perfer Mandalorians or Sith. At least they don't hide their true colors. |
| 00:27.23 | Knight_Alien | look at this then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfwW3EcIDo |
| 00:27.55 | Knight_Alien | He mostly says their is no good or bad side it is just darker emotions to channel it. |
| 00:28.06 | Knight_Alien | Or lighter emotions. |
| 00:28.45 | Knight_Alien | It is just the people who represent the sith that make it look evil. |
| 00:30.09 | Knight_Alien | So force wise their is no ''colors''. |
| 00:30.26 | Knight_Alien | See :} |
| 00:31.01 | Liquid_Ink | Well, the organistion was still fairly unscrupulous with its conscription of children. |
| 00:31.28 | Zillafire101 | And using Clones as a slave army. |
| 00:31.28 | Liquid_Ink | There was definately going to be a people's revolution sooner or later. |
| 00:31.44 | Liquid_Ink | And not paying taxes. |
| 00:31.55 | DrodoEmpire | After what, 25 000 years of Jedi existence and presence? Sure... |
| 00:31.59 | Knight_Alien | Taxes -_- |
| 00:32.11 | DrodoEmpire | It would have happened MUCH sooner. |
| 00:32.20 | Liquid_Ink | Not necessarily. |
| 00:32.38 | DrodoEmpire | And again, I refer back to the example of the Ottoman Janaissaries |
| 00:32.57 | DrodoEmpire | People didn't like it at first but within a few decades people actually wanted their children to be conscripted |
| 00:33.09 | DrodoEmpire | Seeing as it meant a good education and future for them |
| 00:33.15 | Zillafire101 | yeah, I totally want my kids taken away to be killed in foriegn countries. |
| 00:33.27 | DrodoEmpire | Don't be a dumbass. |
| 00:33.28 | Liquid_Ink | But Jedi are taken from a wide variety of cultures, there was bound to at least one not cool with it. |
| 00:33.29 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:33.38 | DrodoEmpire | So where the janaissaries |
| 00:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | And this went on for centuries |
| 00:33.55 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 00:34.01 | Zillafire101 | Many are not Liquid. |
| 00:34.08 | Zillafire101 | Weequay, or whatever, hate Jedi. |
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| 00:34.36 | DrodoEmpire | Zilla: To give a better answer, they would serve as elite troops, then as administrators and if they where lucky they could be courtiers for the Sultan himself |
| 00:34.42 | Knight_Alien | Welcome to our starwars discussion officer. |
| 00:35.10 | DrodoEmpire | So yes, it was a pretty good future. |
| 00:35.47 | Knight_Alien | Until Anakin decided to kill them all.... |
| 00:36.41 | Liquid_Ink | Janaissaries were stolen from Christian families originally, and I doubt they appreciated this. In later periods, they were volunteers from Turkish families, but the key word there is "volunteer" |
| 00:36.50 | Zillafire101 | ^^^^^ |
| 00:37.05 | drom | FYI, I have been writing a small non-canon story. |
| 00:37.09 | Zillafire101 | Vlad the Impaler was one. |
| 00:37.19 | Zillafire101 | That's why he impaled the turks. He hated them. |
| 00:37.26 | Vincent20100 | Didn't janissaries try to overthrown the sultan and they got slaughtered and dismissed? |
| 00:37.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
| 00:37.32 | Zillafire101 | Yeah. |
| 00:37.35 | DrodoEmpire | The Janaissary revolt. |
| 00:37.58 | Zillafire101 | That's what happens with Slave armies, they get sick of being slaves. |
| 00:38.14 | Liquid_Ink | The Janaissaries became corrupt and impotent and had to be abolished. |
| 00:38.30 | Vincent20100 | Like most nobles in Europe did |
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| 00:38.59 | DrodoEmpire | Eh... |
| 00:39.29 | TekDroid | Hey OJ. :P |
| 00:39.45 | DrodoEmpire | Not entirely. France, Italy, and Russia I believe where the only ones to have their nobilities violently overthrown. Correct me if I'm wrong |
| 00:40.07 | DrodoEmpire | Many Europeans have an intact though mostly-powerless nobility still |
| 00:40.22 | DrodoEmpire | Or at least people who can claim nobility |
| 00:40.22 | Vincent20100 | Well, the Ottomans too apparently, since the janissaries wjhere kinda the nobles |
| 00:40.22 | Liquid_Ink | Revolutions occurred in many other countries. They were just unsuccessful. |
| 00:40.33 | Zillafire101 | Germany's Junkers, Britian, Spain etc. |
| 00:40.48 | Vincent20100 | I said the nobles became corrupted, not they were necessarly overthrown |
| 00:40.55 | Vincent20100 | Spain too |
| 00:41.08 | Vincent20100 | During the civil war, they were slautghered |
| 00:41.28 | Zillafire101 | I was talking about Drodo's remarck about the nobles still surviving. |
| 00:41.38 | DrodoEmpire | "Abolished", you said. And I made the connection that the abolition was similarly violent like the Janaissaries |
| 00:41.44 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry |
| 00:41.48 | Zillafire101 | The House of Bismarck still has much influence. |
| 00:42.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:42.28 | Vincent20100 | In china too the "nobolity" were slauthered |
| 00:42.55 | Vincent20100 | In the USA too |
| 00:43.05 | DrodoEmpire | US never had'em. |
| 00:43.11 | DrodoEmpire | Well, not the US as an entity |
| 00:43.12 | Liquid_Ink | The House of Bismarck doesn't actually control much of Germany. |
| 00:43.16 | Vincent20100 | There was some nobles in the US, post-revolution |
| 00:43.26 | Zillafire101 | Yeah, but they still have govenrment positions. |
| 00:43.27 | Vincent20100 | In the thirteen colonies |
| 00:43.56 | Zillafire101 | While not the Iron Rulers like Otto, they certinaly still have wealth and power. |
| 00:44.10 | Vincent20100 | And they slaughtered them during the independance wat |
| 00:44.11 | drom | skip leg day in a nutshell: http://i.imgur.com/gQEnRRE.jpg |
| 00:44.13 | Vincent20100 | *War |
| 00:44.23 | Liquid_Ink | The Jedi are an autonomus police force that conscripts children. |
| 00:44.45 | Zillafire101 | And uses slave-clones. |
| 00:44.53 | Liquid_Ink | And tax exempt. |
| 00:44.55 | DrodoEmpire | The republic uses slave-clones. |
| 00:44.57 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:45.24 | DrodoEmpire | The Jedi marshal and lead them |
| 00:45.30 | Zillafire101 | I never saw the Jedi object. |
| 00:45.37 | Zillafire101 | Very moral of them. |
| 00:45.37 | Vincent20100 | True |
| 00:45.44 | Liquid_Ink | If the jedi are really popular around the galaxy, that just proves the Republic has indoctrination as a high priority in their education. |
| 00:45.47 | DrodoEmpire | Why would they? They understand the severeity of such a situation |
| 00:45.52 | DrodoEmpire | *severity |
| 00:45.53 | Vincent20100 | Wasn't it a Jedi master who ordered the creation of the clones to the Kaminos? |
| 00:46.01 | Liquid_Ink | No. |
| 00:46.03 | Zillafire101 | Darht Sidous actually |
| 00:46.12 | Vincent20100 | Not sure |
| 00:46.14 | Zillafire101 | He got Jango because Jango killed six jedi bare handed. |
| 00:46.28 | Vincent20100 | In the movie, I think it was Quing-gong who did |
| 00:46.36 | DrodoEmpire | If they objected to it that could very well mean a slowing of the war machine and losing the war |
| 00:46.36 | Zillafire101 | While also using a rock, snowball, and piano wire. |
| 00:46.40 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:46.40 | drom | Do I hear about star wars? Have a recent post about star wurs. http://i.imgur.com/RqJDLt7.jpg |
| 00:46.53 | DrodoEmpire | As for Liquid's point? I doubt it. |
| 00:46.53 | Zillafire101 | What about volunteers, like in the Old Republic? |
| 00:47.20 | DrodoEmpire | Can't seriously train and deploy a voluteer army fast enough starting from nothing |
| 00:47.23 | DrodoEmpire | imo |
| 00:47.26 | Vincent20100 | How about droids? |
| 00:47.28 | DrodoEmpire | As it stands I see the Republic as being highly decentralized |
| 00:47.35 | Vincent20100 | Droids do nbot have life, nor feelings |
| 00:47.40 | Vincent20100 | Droids would be perfect |
| 00:47.48 | Zillafire101 | They actualy tried. |
| 00:47.49 | DrodoEmpire | Tell that to the battle droids |
| 00:47.52 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:47.53 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 00:47.58 | Vincent20100 | Droids against droids |
| 00:48.00 | Zillafire101 | WIth the L8-L9 droid |
| 00:48.01 | Vincent20100 | Why not? |
| 00:48.06 | DrodoEmpire | They where cheap enough to be used en-masse but terrible troops |
| 00:48.08 | Zillafire101 | Asaji destroyed it. |
| 00:48.23 | DrodoEmpire | I think most of the major manufacturing corporations where aligned with the seperatists |
| 00:48.27 | Vincent20100 | Well, they could make them better and use better models |
| 00:48.33 | DrodoEmpire | Expensive. |
| 00:48.36 | Zillafire101 | Grievous made it work. Before the Clone wars turned him into an idiot. |
| 00:48.41 | Vincent20100 | Still |
| 00:48.49 | Vincent20100 | A galactic empire has plenty ressources |
| 00:48.53 | Liquid_Ink | Really, the war with the CIS was only major because the Republic forced it. If they had just let the seperatists secede Darth Sideous' plan would have flopped. |
| 00:49.20 | DrodoEmpire | As it stands I see the Republic as being highly decentralized; I don't think they could effectively deploy an education system like that |
| 00:49.34 | Vincent20100 | Sure they could |
| 00:49.44 | Vincent20100 | It would require lot of time, but it could |
| 00:49.45 | DrodoEmpire | It could just very well be that MILLENIA of the jedi's existence have just made them another part of life |
| 00:49.52 | DrodoEmpire | Have you seen the Republic's senate? |
| 00:50.24 | DrodoEmpire | Its inefficient, corrupt, and couldn't pass a bill to change the paintjob on the walls to save their life. XD |
| 00:50.47 | Vincent20100 | That's why I hate democracy |
| 00:50.52 | Zillafire101 | Much like the High Lords of Terra. |
| 00:51.01 | Vincent20100 | Technocracy is the only logical choice. |
| 00:51.12 | DrodoEmpire | I like democracy despite its flaws; It requires a strong people and leadership to make it work |
| 00:51.13 | Vincent20100 | Power to the technicians! |
| 00:51.20 | DrodoEmpire | *sigh* |
| 00:51.22 | Zillafire101 | ^ |
| 00:51.33 | Knight_Alien | Drodo tells words of truth. |
| 00:51.39 | Vincent20100 | Nah |
| 00:51.48 | DrodoEmpire | Monarchy is a mixed bag; A roll of the dice |
| 00:52.00 | Vincent20100 | Democracy is the absurd idea that truth lay within the majority. |
| 00:52.03 | DrodoEmpire | Despotism is not only primitive but absolutely ridiculous |
| 00:52.12 | DrodoEmpire | It puts power to the people |
| 00:52.13 | Knight_Alien | Monarchy works if you are ment for ir. |
| 00:52.13 | Vincent20100 | I'm not for despotism |
| 00:52.19 | DrodoEmpire | Me neither |
| 00:52.25 | DrodoEmpire | But nor am I pro-elitism |
| 00:52.28 | Vincent20100 | I'm a technocrat |
| 00:52.50 | DrodoEmpire | Elitism is an absurd idea and an unfounded one. It seems you are a supporter of it. |
| 00:53.05 | Vincent20100 | You would listen to an medicine to build a bridge, neither would you obey to a enginners about your health. |
| 00:53.18 | Vincent20100 | I am, in some extense |
| 00:53.21 | DrodoEmpire | That isn't how democracy works. |
| 00:53.26 | Vincent20100 | A elitism based on knowledge |
| 00:53.33 | Vincent20100 | Well, kinda |
| 00:53.48 | DrodoEmpire | People would VOTE for the bridge's construction to see if the people using it would want it, |
| 00:53.49 | Liquid_Ink | The jedi aren't democratic. |
| 00:53.53 | Vincent20100 | Look at california! They choosed an actor for governor! |
| 00:53.58 | Vincent20100 | That's stupid! |
| 00:54.06 | Knight_Alien | Democracy praise say Aye! |
| 00:54.08 | Vincent20100 | And democracy is promoting that kind of shits |
| 00:54.13 | DrodoEmpire | and then would deploy the necessary EXPERTS TO BUILD IT. |
| 00:54.15 | Liquid_Ink | The entire US chose an actor for a president. |
| 00:54.23 | Vincent20100 | No |
| 00:54.26 | Zillafire101 | Reagan |
| 00:54.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hence why I say it has its flaws |
| 00:54.32 | Zillafire101 | Or Nixon, I confuse them. |
| 00:54.34 | Vincent20100 | It needs to be the Experts to hold the power |
| 00:54.43 | Liquid_Ink | Reagan. |
| 00:54.43 | DrodoEmpire | Define "expert" |
| 00:54.50 | Vincent20100 | Experts holding the power = technocracy |
| 00:54.53 | Zillafire101 | Like Theodore, FDR, or Clinton? |
| 00:55.01 | Vincent20100 | Well, I prefer the term technicians |
| 00:55.01 | Zillafire101 | Those where pretty smart in my book. |
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| 00:55.28 | Vincent20100 | Technicians are people with the knowleadge of a technic (the medical technic, the engineering technic etc)., |
| 00:55.53 | Vincent20100 | People with the medical technic are medicine |
| 00:56.14 | Vincent20100 | Here, the definition of Technique is the phylosophical one |
| 00:56.16 | DrodoEmpire | Vincent, how many scientists, doctors, and engineers know how to run a country? |
| 00:56.27 | TekDroid | Successful democracy is dependent on both a sensible voting population, and competent leaders. |
| 00:56.27 | DrodoEmpire | How do you let someone onto the political stage? |
| 00:56.35 | DrodoEmpire | What credentials do you need? |
| 00:56.55 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: precisely |
| 00:56.58 | Vincent20100 | http://www.assistancescolaire.com/eleve/TES/philosophie/lexique/T-technique-ix077 |
| 00:57.05 | Vincent20100 | HEre is the exact definition |
| 00:57.10 | Vincent20100 | (use a translator) |
| 00:57.20 | TekDroid | Politicans need ro be capable of convincing the masses and theor peers. |
| 00:57.27 | DrodoEmpire | Why deny someone a chance to change the world because they and their parent didn't have enough money to send him to college? |
| 00:57.35 | DrodoEmpire | *parents |
| 00:57.39 | Vincent20100 | College would have to be free |
| 00:57.40 | Vincent20100 | True |
| 00:57.50 | Vincent20100 | Education HAS to be free in this system |
| 00:57.55 | Zillafire101 | But how would they supply bocks and all that? |
| 00:58.06 | Vincent20100 | Not only free, but students needs to get supplied with what they need |
| 00:58.21 | DrodoEmpire | Do you realise how expensive higher education is? |
| 00:58.22 | Zillafire101 | You have to pay the people who wrote the books, pay the people who manufactured them. Pay the professors for their work. |
| 00:58.33 | Zillafire101 | That's barely straching the surface. |
| 00:58.56 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, I know people who have no degrees or credentials but are great workers, and great people. Very sharp as well. |
| 00:59.01 | Vincent20100 | Guys, your are not looking at it the good way. It is possible, since there is already education |
| 00:59.08 | TekDroid | Higher education costs a megaton (coming from a guy who moves into university tomorrow). |
| 00:59.08 | Vincent20100 | Sure |
| 00:59.11 | DrodoEmpire | Elitism melts away in the presence of those people. |
| 00:59.18 | Vincent20100 | But I would not let them design bridges |
| 00:59.39 | DrodoEmpire | This isn't about damned bridges, this is about running a country in accordance to your ridiculous system. |
| 00:59.43 | TekDroid | A politican's job isn't to design brodges. |
| 00:59.56 | DrodoEmpire | So denying them the right to have a shot at the political stage is unjust |
| 00:59.56 | Vincent20100 | Sure, this system would be highly centralizerd. You would have to work for free, but in return, everything would be free (in limits, that said) |
| 01:00.05 | DrodoEmpire | No one would work |
| 01:00.10 | TekDroid | A politican's job is to pay the architects and engineers to design the bridge. |
| 01:00.17 | DrodoEmpire | People only truly work with incentive; that's human nature |
| 01:00.19 | Vincent20100 | No Tek, but politicians need to have studies, not be cinema actors ! |
| 01:00.31 | DrodoEmpire | Strawman...? |
| 01:00.36 | DrodoEmpire | He isn't talking about that |
| 01:00.40 | Vincent20100 | Arnold |
| 01:00.48 | DrodoEmpire | You're attacking an argument you made up that isn't ours |
| 01:00.49 | TekDroid | And a politician needs to ve skilled in politics, not engineering. |
| 01:01.03 | Vincent20100 | No, enginnering is just an exemple |
| 01:01.23 | DrodoEmpire | Terrible example. |
| 01:01.24 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 01:01.27 | Vincent20100 | People running the government needs to have studies in economie, social matter etc |
| 01:01.36 | DrodoEmpire | Who said so? |
| 01:01.42 | Zillafire101 | What about people like Theodore Roosevelt and Otto von Bismarck? They seemed pretty good, and where elected. |
| 01:01.45 | DrodoEmpire | having a degree is a good thing, yeah |
| 01:01.46 | Vincent20100 | <No, the exemple is to show the basic of technocarcy, use your mind on that |
| 01:02.02 | Vincent20100 | One at the time guys! |
| 01:02.08 | Liquid_Ink | This arguement has gone off its topic. Did we agree that the Jedi were corrupt aristocrats? |
| 01:02.10 | Vincent20100 | I can't answer to you all at the same time! |
| 01:02.11 | DrodoEmpire | But, again, I know minds far sharper than mine that have never stepped foot in a college |
| 01:02.22 | Vincent20100 | Well, they should |
| 01:02.37 | Vincent20100 | And it would be free, and in retrun, they would have to work for free |
| 01:02.38 | DrodoEmpire | You're the one bringing up stuff in a public forum |
| 01:02.47 | DrodoEmpire | "They should"? |
| 01:02.52 | Vincent20100 | Sure |
| 01:02.53 | *** join/#sporewiki HappyKabuto (~OfficerJa@c-69-139-46-236.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 01:02.58 | DrodoEmpire | They never had enough money, how's that sound? |
| 01:03.06 | DrodoEmpire | And no one, I repeat, NO ONE, would work for free. |
| 01:03.09 | Vincent20100 | It would be a shame to waste people's intellect |
| 01:03.15 | DrodoEmpire | That goes against human nature |
| 01:03.22 | DrodoEmpire | It sure would; So how's a democracy sound? |
| 01:03.25 | Vincent20100 | They work for free, but get what they need for free |
| 01:03.39 | TekDroid | Not everyone is capable of university though |
| 01:03.39 | DrodoEmpire | You're making your own system redundant |
| 01:03.44 | Vincent20100 | Sure Tek |
| 01:03.54 | Vincent20100 | But these people would not govern the society |
| 01:03.56 | DrodoEmpire | Again, no one would work if they got what they needed without working |
| 01:04.01 | DrodoEmpire | Why? |
| 01:04.03 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 01:04.17 | Vincent20100 | [21:03] <TekDroid> Not everyone is capable of university though |
| 01:04.34 | Zillafire101 | Our society would degenerate at that point. We'd be just sitting around stuffing our faces and living in excess. |
| 01:04.38 | OfficerJackal | Ugh. |
| 01:04.38 | Vincent20100 | If by capable you mean unable intellectually (not monetary) then it is an evidence! |
| 01:04.41 | OfficerJackal | What's we talking about? |
| 01:04.53 | Zillafire101 | Democracy and how it actually works. |
| 01:04.57 | Knight_Alien | GOvernemtns |
| 01:04.58 | DrodoEmpire | Vincent's silly system. |
| 01:04.59 | Vincent20100 | Zilla, that's already what we are doing |
| 01:05.02 | Knight_Alien | And the wrongs. |
| 01:05.06 | OfficerJackal | Oh, I see. |
| 01:05.18 | Knight_Alien | It is furiating for some' |
| 01:05.29 | Vincent20100 | Drodo, it require moral transformation, but it is possible |
| 01:05.37 | Knight_Alien | I won't spill my ideals If I get eaten. |
| 01:05.45 | Vincent20100 | The Industrial revolution showed transforming people,S moral is possible |
| 01:06.02 | TekDroid | The problem is humanity doesn't change |
| 01:06.04 | DrodoEmpire | No, its human nature; If I got enough money and supplies to just sit down, watch the TV, play video games and masturbate all day, why would I get up and work? XD |
| 01:06.22 | Vincent20100 | The people before the IR were working only when =they needed it. Throught the time, the employeers conviced them to come work daily. |
| 01:06.28 | DrodoEmpire | To put it bluntly |
| 01:06.48 | TekDroid | People before the IR were working all the time. They had to. |
| 01:06.55 | Vincent20100 | No |
| 01:07.00 | Zillafire101 | Yeah. |
| 01:07.03 | Vincent20100 | People before the IR had lot of free time |
| 01:07.08 | TekDroid | No. |
| 01:07.16 | Vincent20100 | It wasn't as shown in movies |
| 01:07.24 | TekDroid | *facepalm* |
| 01:07.26 | Zillafire101 | No they did not. They lived in hovels. |
| 01:07.29 | DrodoEmpire | People had no free time in the IR |
| 01:07.34 | Zillafire101 | They had to feed large families. |
| 01:07.37 | Vincent20100 | BEFORE the IR |
| 01:07.46 | Zillafire101 | And migrates to the US had it worse. |
| 01:07.48 | DrodoEmpire | Instead of working hear to death in factories and dying to a bunch of Zulus or whatever |
| 01:07.53 | Hachiman | What's this about masturbating all day? |
| 01:07.56 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:07.59 | Vincent20100 | Yah but the wheat needed time to grow. They cannot force it to grow faster! |
| 01:08.08 | DrodoEmpire | They worked near to death on fields and died to angry knights |
| 01:08.13 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 01:08.21 | Knight_Alien | It was fun to some. |
| 01:08.22 | Vincent20100 | That's misconception Drodo |
| 01:08.28 | DrodoEmpire | No it ain't |
| 01:08.32 | Vincent20100 | YEs it is |
| 01:08.35 | Zillafire101 | But they where constantly tilling and trying to survive plagues. |
| 01:08.36 | Vincent20100 | That's sad |
| 01:08.38 | TekDroid | I think you underestimate the work required for farming. |
| 01:08.40 | DrodoEmpire | People hauled ass all the time in all of history |
| 01:08.44 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 01:08.45 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: He is. |
| 01:08.57 | Vincent20100 | Life in these time were hard, because of sickness, but they had ot of free times, yes |
| 01:08.58 | DrodoEmpire | Farming is absolutely backbreaking work |
| 01:09.02 | DrodoEmpire | No they didn't |
| 01:09.04 | Vincent20100 | No |
| 01:09.06 | Zillafire101 | Animals need to be feed, machiens and equipment needs to be maintained. |
| 01:09.17 | TekDroid | IR slowly meant automation could replace backbreaking labour. |
| 01:09.22 | DrodoEmpire | They farmed and fought in armies, got sick, and had to feed big families |
| 01:09.25 | Vincent20100 | MODERN farming is back breaking, not medieval farming |
| 01:09.31 | Zillafire101 | 30 was considered old. |
| 01:09.35 | DrodoEmpire | *facepalm* |
| 01:09.40 | TekDroid | You got it backwards |
| 01:09.42 | Zillafire101 | No, modern farming has fancy tractors and what not. |
| 01:09.44 | DrodoEmpire | Medieval farming had NO automation |
| 01:09.49 | Vincent20100 | 30 was consider old because of sickness! |
| 01:09.57 | OfficerJackal | Vincent20100: What? People had no time like that before the IR if you were merely a poor farmer, you would MANUALLY with if you are lucky a few friends tend to your farm for the entire day just to get everything right and get yourself fed. |
| 01:09.59 | Vincent20100 | Autoimation isn't freeing time |
| 01:10.01 | Zillafire101 | And how often you worked your ass off. |
| 01:10.04 | TekDroid | Take a history class and then we can talk. |
| 01:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | You spent most of the day hunched over a crop, cutting wheat with a sickle in 30+ degrees. |
| 01:10.15 | Vincent20100 | Automation, ironnically is ADDINF work hours! |
| 01:10.21 | OfficerJackal | What the fuck, no, no, no. |
| 01:10.21 | DrodoEmpire | No it isn't/ |
| 01:10.23 | OfficerJackal | No. |
| 01:10.23 | TekDroid | *facepalm* |
| 01:10.24 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
| 01:10.30 | DrodoEmpire | Are you... |
| 01:10.31 | Vincent20100 | Sorry to disappoint you |
| 01:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | I won't be rude |
| 01:10.37 | Zillafire101 | Oh mama mia. |
| 01:10.39 | Vincent20100 | Just a sec, got to give you alink |
| 01:10.47 | Vincent20100 | I will get you the link |
| 01:10.48 | OfficerJackal | Automation makes things easier because it further removes the human aspect from work, and allows them to do other things, like spending time with the familly and stuff. |
| 01:10.50 | DrodoEmpire | You spew this, this crap yet no evidence; How quaint. |
| 01:10.58 | DrodoEmpire | OJ; Precisely |
| 01:11.01 | Zillafire101 | Vincent, people died to back-breaking work, sickness, and the ravages of child birth. |
| 01:11.09 | TekDroid | Automation increasing labour doesn't even make sense. |
| 01:11.16 | DrodoEmpire | Or else people would have realised its inefficient |
| 01:11.18 | Vincent20100 | No tek |
| 01:11.25 | Vincent20100 | Automation raise PRODUCTIVITY |
| 01:11.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, it does |
| 01:11.34 | Vincent20100 | Not decrease work hours |
| 01:11.35 | Zillafire101 | And how it that bad? |
| 01:11.39 | TekDroid | Automation is replacing labour with technology. |
| 01:11.40 | DrodoEmpire | Also makes work less intensive |
| 01:11.44 | Vincent20100 | NO |
| 01:11.47 | OfficerJackal | Before that, you would have to spend the entire day doing manual labour if you were poor, and it would be absolutely brutal. These days, even if you are poor (and are in a developed country with... Gasp, TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT) you still have it pretty easy. |
| 01:11.47 | Vincent20100 | That's the point |
| 01:11.51 | Knight_Alien | Umm can we not really talk about this anymore? |
| 01:11.51 | DrodoEmpire | ALL CAPS SERIOUS |
| 01:11.53 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 01:12.03 | Vincent20100 | Caps are used to mark important words |
| 01:12.05 | OfficerJackal | In terms of jobs, that is. |
| 01:12.18 | Zillafire101 | Screw you guys, I'mma going home. And watching Attack on Titan. |
| 01:12.25 | Zillafire101 | and then listening to Queen. |
| 01:12.36 | DrodoEmpire | Try building a table using a handsaw, hammer and nails and then build another one with a jigsaw and drill and come back to me wnd say which took less time and effort. |
| 01:12.41 | Knight_Alien | Zilla go do for Anime! XD |
| 01:12.48 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry Zilla. |
| 01:12.50 | Vincent20100 | Guys just look at primite tribes! |
| 01:12.53 | OfficerJackal | Vincent20100: If you don't like the progress humanity has done over hundreads of years to make life easier for themselves, I fully invite you to work in the paddy and rice fields in Vietnam with manual labor. |
| 01:12.57 | Vincent20100 | They work 5 hours a week! |
| 01:13.06 | DrodoEmpire | No they don't |
| 01:13.07 | Vincent20100 | I love progress |
| 01:13.10 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
| 01:13.11 | Zillafire101 | Lel |
| 01:13.15 | Vincent20100 | It is sad, but true |
| 01:13.21 | TekDroid | Vincent20100: They spebd the whole day foraging and the rest trying not to get killed |
| 01:13.26 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:13.31 | DrodoEmpire | You're outright lying now. |
| 01:13.36 | DrodoEmpire | Just, just drop it. |
| 01:13.39 | Vincent20100 | Primite tribes have to work 5 hours a week and spent the rest sleeping, fucking and playing |
| 01:13.55 | Zillafire101 | It's way more then 5 hours. |
| 01:13.55 | DrodoEmpire | Try getting your facts from a history book instead of movies. |
| 01:13.55 | Vincent20100 | That's why people with education need to rule! |
| 01:13.58 | TekDroid | If technology increased how much we work, why did we start using it? |
| 01:14.03 | Vincent20100 | Because people are led by misconception |
| 01:14.08 | DrodoEmpire | Well, YOU need education, yes. |
| 01:14.14 | Vincent20100 | BEcause people wanted to get richer! |
| 01:14.18 | Vincent20100 | Money! |
| 01:14.21 | Knight_Alien | GUYS STOP FIGHTING ABOUT WORK! |
| 01:14.22 | OfficerJackal | Wait, where is that link you mentioned you were going to give us, again? |
| 01:14.23 | Vincent20100 | People wanted more money! |
| 01:14.29 | Knight_Alien | -_- |
| 01:14.32 | Vincent20100 | And therefor started exploiting peasants! |
| 01:14.33 | Zillafire101 | Everyone wants money. |
| 01:14.36 | Vincent20100 | That's why! |
| 01:14.36 | DrodoEmpire | Money didn't exist in prehistoric times |
| 01:14.45 | Vincent20100 | No, but it existed before the IR |
| 01:14.49 | DrodoEmpire | YOu're being batshit crazy now. I'll be blunt. |
| 01:15.00 | DrodoEmpire | Just stop, this is getting ridiculous |
| 01:15.04 | Zillafire101 | I don't noramlly like to insult, but I agree. |
| 01:15.12 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 01:15.13 | Zillafire101 | You should really drop this. |
| 01:15.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:15.19 | Vincent20100 | http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism |
| 01:15.26 | Knight_Alien | Yea we need hugs 0u0 |
| 01:15.34 | Knight_Alien | Huggy! |
| 01:15.53 | Knight_Alien | Hugs Vincent to help him out. |
| 01:16.08 | DrodoEmpire | Vince, in conclusion, your points hold no water and go against the beliefs and theories of almost every historical authority (not to mention real life; Referring back to the table example) |
| 01:16.12 | DrodoEmpire | Drop. |
| 01:16.14 | DrodoEmpire | It. |
| 01:16.19 | Vincent20100 | http://www.primitivism.com/primitive-affluence.htm |
| 01:16.39 | Vincent20100 | Sorry drod, here are studies supporting what I said |
| 01:16.47 | Vincent20100 | In terms of our standard eight-hour workday, a San adult works between 2.2 and 2.4 hours a day--well |
| 01:17.03 | TekDroid | Do you have any peer-reviewed sources? Ones with ANY citations? |
| 01:17.15 | DrodoEmpire | What part of "stop" do you now understand? |
| 01:17.15 | Zillafire101 | Citations = Good. |
| 01:17.23 | DrodoEmpire | *you |
| 01:17.26 | DrodoEmpire | *you not |
| 01:17.47 | Vincent20100 | Stop? Drod, why doN't you stop? |
| 01:17.57 | Zillafire101 | We'll all stop, Ok? |
| 01:18.08 | Vincent20100 | http://www.primitivism.com/primitive-affluence.htm |
| 01:18.13 | Vincent20100 | This one has sources |
| 01:18.22 | Vincent20100 | ANd it clearly says it |
| 01:18.38 | Zillafire101 | Come on guys, just relax, listen to queen, and we'll all drop this. |
| 01:18.41 | Vincent20100 | n terms of our standard eight-hour workday, a San adult works between 2.2 and 2.4 hours a day |
| 01:18.56 | Vincent20100 | 2.2 hours of labours a day |
| 01:19.40 | Zillafire101 | This is for cracking nuts. |
| 01:19.44 | Zillafire101 | Not very hard work. |
| 01:19.53 | DrodoEmpire | Vince, the difference between you and me stopping is that this is and has boiled over into a flamewar. |
| 01:20.04 | Vincent20100 | People started working backbracking hours when kings (later capitalists) wanted to exploit them |
| 01:20.05 | Zillafire101 | #Flamewar |
| 01:20.14 | DrodoEmpire | No... |
| 01:20.17 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
| 01:20.18 | Zillafire101 | No, they did it to support their families. |
| 01:20.20 | TekDroid | Screw it. I give up. |
| 01:20.22 | DrodoEmpire | Its when people discovered agriculture. |
| 01:20.23 | Vincent20100 | Sorry to disappoint you |
| 01:20.39 | Zillafire101 | Kings and royals needed mroe food for their armies, so that's when it started. |
| 01:20.42 | OfficerJackal | Jesus christ, no, don't bring up capitalism like that... You do realize that in practically any other socialist country in the past century, people endured backbreaking work as well under the state? |
| 01:20.43 | Vincent20100 | Primitive tribes are able to support their families |
| 01:20.47 | DrodoEmpire | Your only disappointment is the ease at which I destroy your arguments. |
| 01:20.51 | OfficerJackal | At some point? |
| 01:21.00 | OfficerJackal | Like the USSR, China, Vietnam, Laos, etc. |
| 01:21.01 | Vincent20100 | Sorry, by capitalists, I mean rich people |
| 01:21.09 | DrodoEmpire | Oooh, rich people. |
| 01:21.13 | Vincent20100 | Not people supporting free trade |
| 01:21.17 | Zillafire101 | Rich people have ruled many nations. |
| 01:21.20 | Vincent20100 | No drod |
| 01:21.25 | Vincent20100 | You are refusing the reality |
| 01:21.31 | Zillafire101 | Bismarck, the Roosevelts, many others. |
| 01:21.46 | Zillafire101 | They come from rich, affluent families, are elected in, and lead their nations quite well. |
| 01:21.48 | DrodoEmpire | When you have free trade youget rich people. Sorry to "disappoint" you |
| 01:21.56 | Zillafire101 | ^ |
| 01:22.13 | Vincent20100 | And that's why Democracy is a flop, because people with pre-conceived idea can get in power |
| 01:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | No, vince, I'm pretty sure you're the one being delusional here. |
| 01:22.30 | Vincent20100 | Sorry to disappoint you,. but no |
| 01:22.42 | Vincent20100 | Go ask a anthropoligic teacher, you will see |
| 01:22.54 | Zillafire101 | Bismarck created Social Secruirty, helped Jews get better rights in germany, and developed Relpolitik. |
| 01:23.07 | Zillafire101 | That doesn't look like a flop. |
| 01:23.09 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:23.12 | DrodoEmpire | Indeed |
| 01:23.22 | Knight_Alien | I WATCH A FULL ANIME AND YOUR STILL ARGUING!!!! |
| 01:23.31 | DrodoEmpire | Thank Vince. |
| 01:23.49 | Vincent20100 | You're welcome. Educating is a duty |
| 01:23.53 | OfficerJackal | LOL. |
| 01:24.02 | Zillafire101 | *Facepalms so hard his glasses break* |
| 01:24.05 | OfficerJackal | Dude, it isn't educating, you are just presenting your own beliefs! |
| 01:24.05 | Vincent20100 | *irony* |
| 01:24.10 | DrodoEmpire | I always new sarcasm was hard to transmit through the internet. |
| 01:24.19 | Vincent20100 | It's no beleif it's facts, sorry to disappoint you! |
| 01:24.25 | TekHasGivenUp | Go study some peer-reviewed history and I'll talk to youm |
| 01:24.34 | Zillafire101 | What the facts I put before just now? |
| 01:24.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, saying that speaking your mind is "education" is the height of pretentiousness and cockiness. |
| 01:24.50 | Vincent20100 | I sent you links and you are still holding on your beleifs |
| 01:25.05 | DrodoEmpire | Because the links are a pathetic appeal to authority and flawed. |
| 01:25.09 | Vincent20100 | Links vs insults, yeah... |
| 01:25.14 | DrodoEmpire | Like the rest of your argument |
| 01:25.19 | Vincent20100 | No, the second is pretty good |
| 01:25.22 | Zillafire101 | And if nobles are so money hungry, what about the Junkers? Despite being affluent, they worked their own lands, milked their own cows, and had to join civil service and the army to maintain their position. |
| 01:25.23 | TekHasGivenUp | Hm... I think I have an ignore function... |
| 01:25.28 | OfficerJackal | I believe that nature is bad and we should kill all animals on the earth, it will make humanity stronger, I am presenting you all facts that are the true way to glory! EDUCATED, BITCHES. |
| 01:25.42 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 01:25.49 | Zillafire101 | Kill Bambi! He's a menace to society! |
| 01:25.49 | Hachiman | Shut the fuck up all of you please |
| 01:26.00 | Hachiman | This bitching is irritating |
| 01:26.01 | Vincent20100 | You know what, fine, stay bucked on your shits and don't try to open your mind, fine |
| 01:26.11 | Vincent20100 | Don't complain when a teacher will turn you down |
| 01:26.12 | Knight_Alien | :{ |
| 01:26.26 | DrodoEmpire | You're being a pretentiousless little shit now, Vince. Stop. |
| 01:26.33 | DrodoEmpire | Being perfectly blunt. |
| 01:26.36 | DrodoEmpire | *pretentious |
| 01:26.40 | Vincent20100 | Prentious? Really? We have both been |
| 01:26.50 | TekHasGivenUp | There, Vincent20100 has been set to ignore for me. XD |
| 01:27.01 | Zillafire101 | OfficerJackal is right. We must kill all the animals! Tar and feather them! |
| 01:27.01 | DrodoEmpire | No, I've never claimed to be "educating" you with my side of the story. |
| 01:27.10 | Vincent20100 | Yes you did |
| 01:27.14 | Vincent20100 | Several times |
| 01:27.15 | Knight_Alien | Let us pull up chairs people it is going AGAIN! |
| 01:27.18 | DrodoEmpire | Please, tell me when |
| 01:27.22 | Zillafire101 | Vincent please stop. |
| 01:27.22 | DrodoEmpire | Quote |
| 01:27.35 | DrodoEmpire | If you can bring one one instance I've said that today |
| 01:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | You win. |
| 01:27.47 | Zillafire101 | This is like an Ewok fighting Godzilla, it's pointless. |
| 01:27.55 | DrodoEmpire | It is. |
| 01:28.00 | Vincent20100 | No, I have a better idea |
| 01:28.13 | Zillafire101 | Oh boy. |
| 01:28.14 | Vincent20100 | apologize for having use pretentious attitude earlier |
| 01:28.21 | DrodoEmpire | Thank you. |
| 01:28.26 | Vincent20100 | I will settle on this point |
| 01:28.32 | DrodoEmpire | That's very honourable of you. |
| 01:28.37 | DrodoEmpire | Go on. |
| 01:28.38 | Vincent20100 | And... |
| 01:28.44 | Knight_Alien | -_- |
| 01:28.49 | Zillafire101 | Just end it now. |
| 01:29.29 | Knight_Alien | Pulls his sword out and points at Drodo and Vincnets throat's |
| 01:29.40 | Zillafire101 | There can be only ONE! |
| 01:29.41 | Vincent20100 | hand a beer to Drodo. |
| 01:29.48 | Vincent20100 | ...with an angry face |
| 01:29.51 | Knight_Alien | What! |
| 01:29.55 | Zillafire101 | Oktober feast! |
| 01:30.00 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 01:30.06 | Knight_Alien | Ya. |
| 01:30.11 | DrodoEmpire | rejects it and takes out a mountain dew and doritos |
| 01:30.15 | DrodoEmpire | m'lady |
| 01:30.38 | OfficerJackal | #yoloswagsnoopdogggxxxxxx420blzitfeggetxxxxxxxxlearmym'ladyxxxxxx |
| 01:30.50 | Zillafire101 | Guys, what if, we made eggs, that taksed like bacon? |
| 01:30.51 | Knight_Alien | pulls a gun and shoots both with a bullet of Enlightenment! |
| 01:30.56 | Vincent20100 | is doing an effort to restablish peace with Drodo |
| 01:31.00 | TekDroid | goodbye. |
| 01:31.04 | OfficerJackal | Bye! :) |
| 01:31.06 | Vincent20100 | ++ |
| 01:31.07 | Knight_Alien | Tek no! |
| 01:31.07 | Zillafire101 | bai |
| 01:31.15 | DrodoEmpire | Bye Tek |
| 01:31.52 | Vincent20100 | would like to. |
| 01:32.19 | Knight_Alien | yes? |
| 01:32.46 | Knight_Alien | : |
| 01:33.03 | Vincent20100 | open a bottle of vodka. |
| 01:33.52 | Vincent20100 | Everybody is friends with vodka. |
| 01:34.27 | Knight_Alien | Not everyone...... |
| 01:34.49 | Knight_Alien | Well me it is not. |
| 01:35.27 | Vincent20100 | hand a glass to Knight. |
| 01:36.07 | Knight_Alien | throw it on the gorund. |
| 01:36.18 | Knight_Alien | *throws* |
| 01:36.24 | Vincent20100 | Beer then? |
| 01:36.33 | Knight_Alien | grabs a glass of wine. |
| 01:37.05 | Knight_Alien | I have my glass. |
| 01:37.16 | Knight_Alien | Drodo? |
| 01:37.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 01:37.48 | Knight_Alien | Glass? |
| 01:40.37 | Knight_Alien | :{ |
| 01:44.28 | Vincent20100 | hugs knight. |
| 01:45.46 | DrodoEmpire | "France: The honor of being the only nation to surrender 4 times during a single battle, 37 million loaves of bread burnt because of the horrors.;" - Uncyclopedia on the Battle of the Bulge |
| 01:45.57 | DrodoEmpire | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bulge |
| 01:46.13 | Knight_Alien | Nostalgia critic loves his french bread. |
| 01:46.42 | Knight_Alien | Wait I am being hug , oh well thank 0u0 |
| 01:47.24 | Knight_Alien | I just noticed. |
| 01:47.39 | Liquid_Ink | It's looking like Kurdistan may become independant soon enough. |
| 01:47.48 | Vincent20100 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:48.26 | Hachiman | Hitler wasn't German |
| 01:48.32 | Knight_Alien | Austrain. |
| 01:49.11 | Knight_Alien | It is the uncyclopedia it is not reliable. |
| 01:49.19 | DrodoEmpire | Its also a joke. XD |
| 01:49.26 | DrodoEmpire | Take nothing it says seriously. |
| 01:49.27 | Knight_Alien | I know. |
| 01:49.43 | Knight_Alien | LJN has it's own joke page. |
| 01:49.52 | Knight_Alien | Laughim jokin numbnuts. |
| 01:50.47 | Liquid_Ink | But back then most Austrians identified as Germans. |
| 01:53.02 | Knight_Alien | http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/LJN |
| 01:53.07 | Knight_Alien | Yep ljn |
| 01:56.55 | DrodoEmpire | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Act_of_Redundancy |
| 01:57.09 | DrodoEmpire | A page about redundancy that is itself as redundant as possible |
| 01:57.28 | DrodoEmpire | "An act of redundancy, or an act, deed, action, or undertaking which has been called, deemed, labelled, or termed redundant, more than is necessary, repetitive, or redundant is an act which is repetitive, more than is necessary or needed, or redundant and has been classified, characterized, or identified as such." |
| 02:00.44 | Knight_Alien | Everyone is leaving. |
| 02:02.59 | Vincent20100 | Serial Killer Drom is still active! |
| 02:04.34 | Knight_Alien | He died. |
| 02:04.48 | Knight_Alien | Tempted to play the sims...... |
| 02:04.56 | Vincent20100 | lol |
| 02:05.11 | Vincent20100 | Another one bites the dust! |
| 02:05.16 | Knight_Alien | Wait who is creating a sporewikia house again? |
| 02:05.24 | Knight_Alien | In the sims? |
| 02:05.34 | Vincent20100 | Not sure |
| 02:05.42 | Knight_Alien | >:{ |
| 02:06.44 | Knight_Alien | Now I am no longer tempted to play the sims. |
| 02:06.50 | Knight_Alien | The guys not here. |
| 02:08.09 | Knight_Alien | It is a good thing that whole government thing is over. |
| 02:08.22 | Knight_Alien | I didn't even voice my choice. |
| 02:10.03 | Vincent20100 | Happens to my everyday |
| 02:10.09 | Vincent20100 | Open a game I wanna play |
| 02:10.19 | Vincent20100 | Let it open for somes hours not play it |
| 02:10.29 | Vincent20100 | close it because I still don't wanna play |
| 02:11.05 | Knight_Alien | I have just been playing Civ5 and sins of a solar empire. |
| 02:11.16 | Knight_Alien | And Wikia fiction stuff. |
| 02:11.16 | Vincent20100 | Sins is awesome |
| 02:12.11 | Knight_Alien | The Advent are excellent but their super weapon is weak. |
| 02:12.18 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 02:12.29 | Vincent20100 | I also love Galactic Civ |
| 02:12.54 | Vincent20100 | I'm still amaized by the AI. |
| 02:14.11 | Vincent20100 | Gotta love the multi-section research too |
| 02:15.02 | Knight_Alien | Ya. |
| 02:22.25 | Vincent20100 | lights a cig |
| 02:26.57 | Vincent20100 | I hate this country, It's cold even in winter dammit! |
| 02:29.40 | Vincent20100 | *summer |
| 02:29.49 | Vincent20100 | That makes more sense now |
| 02:31.09 | DrodoEmpire | Meh. |
| 02:31.22 | Knight_Alien | It is not so bad. |
| 02:31.26 | DrodoEmpire | Over here in Nova Scotia we've had a brutal winter but this summer was beautiful. |
| 02:31.35 | DrodoEmpire | And I actually love the winter. :P |
| 02:31.48 | Knight_Alien | I Love it to. |
| 02:31.51 | DrodoEmpire | Louisbourg was foggy. As usual. |
| 02:32.03 | Knight_Alien | I roll around in it and such. |
| 02:32.18 | Knight_Alien | I just like the cold overall. |
| 02:32.32 | Vincent20100 | Canadian?! |
| 02:32.51 | DrodoEmpire | I am, yes. |
| 02:32.53 | Knight_Alien | Nope German,British,Irish American! |
| 02:32.54 | Vincent20100 | Aren't you french by anychances? |
| 02:32.59 | DrodoEmpire | Me? |
| 02:33.02 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 02:33.12 | DrodoEmpire | I'm a quarter French. Mostly Scottish. |
| 02:33.20 | DrodoEmpire | I know very little French. |
| 02:33.25 | Vincent20100 | Do you speak french? |
| 02:33.28 | Vincent20100 | Ho... |
| 02:33.35 | DrodoEmpire | No, though my brother is almost fluent |
| 02:33.40 | Vincent20100 | I'm from Quebec. |
| 02:33.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
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| 02:34.27 | Knight_Alien | My Fathers side of the family is from ireland and my Moms is from Germany. |
| 02:34.39 | Vincent20100 | German is a nice country |
| 02:34.42 | DrodoEmpire | I'm from Nova Scotia |
| 02:34.44 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 02:34.47 | Knight_Alien | My mother is a geramn citizen to bad she hates. |
| 02:34.58 | DrodoEmpire | So I guess that makes me a "filthy Englishman" in Quebec. XD |
| 02:35.09 | Vincent20100 | Is Scotia Bank from Nova Scotia? ^^ |
| 02:35.17 | Knight_Alien | I love and my Grandma teaches me the tonge. |
| 02:35.21 | DrodoEmpire | I believe so |
| 02:35.31 | Vincent20100 | Don't say that. |
| 02:35.32 | DrodoEmpire | Or else why would it be called that? XD |
| 02:35.39 | Knight_Alien | *I love Germany* |
| 02:35.51 | Vincent20100 | You are not a filthy english. |
| 02:36.02 | Knight_Alien | The Mother ad father also have English in them. |
| 02:36.13 | DrodoEmpire | I know, its just the stereotype is that Quebecers are hostile to Anglophones. XD |
| 02:36.24 | DrodoEmpire | Unless its tourist season, of course |
| 02:36.27 | Vincent20100 | -_- |
| 02:36.38 | DrodoEmpire | Again, its a stereotype |
| 02:36.43 | DrodoEmpire | I don't make them up. XD |
| 02:36.56 | Knight_Alien | Vincent are you from russia? |
| 02:37.01 | Knight_Alien | Or in Russia? |
| 02:37.06 | Vincent20100 | What we are really angry against, is the old Trudeau bilinguist policy |
| 02:37.07 | DrodoEmpire | Well Quebec's not in RUssia... |
| 02:37.12 | DrodoEmpire | So no |
| 02:37.14 | Vincent20100 | NO, but I LOVE Russia |
| 02:37.20 | Vincent20100 | *USSR |
| 02:37.38 | DrodoEmpire | What is so wrong with this policy? :P |
| 02:37.50 | Vincent20100 | What Quebecers hate is the old Trudean bilingue policy |
| 02:37.55 | Vincent20100 | It's a big lie |
| 02:38.28 | Knight_Alien | My Grandma would hate you for being a communist her whole live was under democracy during the berlin wall and she visted the Communist side alot because of her family and she saw horros of the reds she said. |
| 02:38.29 | Vincent20100 | You are supposed to have french service available any time in every government building |
| 02:38.30 | DrodoEmpire | How? Is it trying to make Quebec a bilingual province? :P |
| 02:38.36 | Vincent20100 | No |
| 02:38.45 | Vincent20100 | It is suppose to make ALL province bilingue |
| 02:38.52 | DrodoEmpire | Well good. |
| 02:39.01 | Vincent20100 | Is it the case? -_- |
| 02:39.03 | Knight_Alien | My Grandma would hate you for being a communist her whole live was under democracy during the berlin wall and she visted the Communist side alot because of her family and she saw horors of the reds she said. |
| 02:39.26 | DrodoEmpire | Government services ARE provided in English and French anyhow in most provinces; Including, last time I checked, my province |
| 02:39.34 | Vincent20100 | Horrors aren't linked to any ideology Knight. They are linked to people and situations |
| 02:39.35 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes. |
| 02:39.47 | Vincent20100 | Nah |
| 02:39.56 | Knight_Alien | Ideology is the horror. |
| 02:39.56 | DrodoEmpire | They can bring them about. But that's a different story |
| 02:40.09 | DrodoEmpire | By putting the idea into people's heads |
| 02:40.19 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, different discussion for a different day |
| 02:40.19 | Vincent20100 | Everytime I ask for a service in french, the ONLY dude who., supposedly speak frenc, isn't woring |
| 02:40.22 | Knight_Alien | The COmmunist Ideplpgy to her is pure Evil and she is not a super Demo. |
| 02:40.40 | Knight_Alien | Democract buffer she is not. |
| 02:40.41 | Vincent20100 | *working |
| 02:40.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's odd. |
| 02:40.47 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 02:40.59 | Vincent20100 | Anyway, I'm neither pro-quebec or pro-canada |
| 02:41.12 | Vincent20100 | I consider myself an internationnalist |
| 02:41.18 | DrodoEmpire | I was under the assumption you needed to be bilingual to have a government service job like that |
| 02:41.26 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 02:41.31 | Vincent20100 | But let's be realistic |
| 02:41.38 | Vincent20100 | That's not really the case |
| 02:41.45 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaos not. XD |
| 02:41.47 | DrodoEmpire | *perhaps |
| 02:41.58 | Vincent20100 | I mean, are you speaking french Drodo? |
| 02:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | But I find it really odd that in Quebec of all places wouldn't have french-language services |
| 02:42.18 | Vincent20100 | It isn't your fault, it is just a fact |
| 02:42.29 | DrodoEmpire | No, but I don't have a government job either so I'm not obligated to know it. XD |
| 02:42.34 | Knight_Alien | Have you ever seen the life under Communism Vincent I am just asking. |
| 02:42.46 | Vincent20100 | Well, in trudeau policy, every citizen should |
| 02:42.55 | Vincent20100 | Kinda Knight |
| 02:43.01 | Vincent20100 | I lived in Cuba for 4 years |
| 02:43.22 | Vincent20100 | But we were in humanitarian mission |
| 02:43.41 | Vincent20100 | We were based there and shipping stuff to Haiti |
| 02:43.44 | Knight_Alien | But I mean a true citizen of Communisum. |
| 02:43.56 | Vincent20100 | No, but I'm not born there either |
| 02:44.21 | Knight_Alien | It is also good to see a hero of hati here well thank you for assiting them. |
| 02:44.40 | Vincent20100 | You would not beleive how much humanitarian mission are corrupted... |
| 02:44.53 | Knight_Alien | :[ |
| 02:45.01 | Vincent20100 | HEre is how it work |
| 02:45.09 | Vincent20100 | People give money and shits |
| 02:45.27 | Vincent20100 | Most of material donations are sold to private companies for moneys |
| 02:45.49 | Vincent20100 | The few we receive, are most of the time confiscated by militaries for themselves |
| 02:46.06 | Vincent20100 | Because they want to get aid in first |
| 02:46.33 | Vincent20100 | And you can't say no, or they will expulse all the mission, which would be worse |
| 02:46.41 | Vincent20100 | And money |
| 02:46.59 | Knight_Alien | :L |
| 02:47.09 | Vincent20100 | Money is first divided between the local government, who take a big part for themselves |
| 02:47.22 | Vincent20100 | And most supervisors are taking the rest. |
| 02:47.30 | Vincent20100 | Result: Nothing gets done |
| 02:48.00 | Vincent20100 | For like 100$, I have never seen more than 30 get to the pops |
| 02:49.43 | Knight_Alien | That is corruption for you somthing that must be purged of this world. |
| 02:49.50 | Vincent20100 | And to save the faces, they build like 1 well, take few picts, and leave. |
| 02:50.10 | Vincent20100 | Don't you think so? |
| 02:50.42 | Knight_Alien | Most likely they do only make one well. |
| 02:50.56 | Vincent20100 | yah |
| 02:51.06 | Vincent20100 | A well, a paper-wall school |
| 02:51.08 | Knight_Alien | 4 pics with different people in the back. |
| 02:51.20 | Vincent20100 | Blacks |
| 02:51.23 | Vincent20100 | Black people |
| 02:51.27 | Knight_Alien | Ya. |
| 02:51.33 | Vincent20100 | And preferably woman childs |
| 02:51.51 | Vincent20100 | The population hate us |
| 02:52.05 | Vincent20100 | They see us as imperialist colonist |
| 02:52.06 | Knight_Alien | It is stupid how we help Africa but the women keep having kids. |
| 02:52.15 | Knight_Alien | When they can't feed them! |
| 02:52.20 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 02:52.32 | Vincent20100 | That's kinda why we were based in Cuba and not in Haitie |
| 02:53.04 | Vincent20100 | THe Haitian would probably have riped throught our base and kill us for a few bucks |
| 02:53.22 | Vincent20100 | Would not blame them |
| 02:53.27 | Knight_Alien | They see us as Imperialist but it is ok for African leaders to kill on another. |
| 02:53.33 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 02:53.50 | Vincent20100 | That's nationalism |
| 02:53.55 | Knight_Alien | Well now these days people get to hurt by subjects. |
| 02:54.02 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
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| 02:54.31 | Vincent20100 | I you think having a big flag and wearing a american-shirt is patriostism, that's false |
| 02:55.01 | Vincent20100 | These people are really nationnalist |
| 02:55.11 | Knight_Alien | A friend I had , watched a video and it was a music video and randomly became sexual and I played with her calling her a pervert so she said I was sextist. |
| 02:55.21 | OfficerJackal | Fuc |
| 02:55.24 | Vincent20100 | And when it isn't that, it's religion |
| 02:55.26 | Knight_Alien | And got mad. |
| 02:55.29 | Vincent20100 | lol |
| 02:55.43 | Knight_Alien | I was like WTF. |
| 02:56.09 | Vincent20100 | Fortunatly for us, in Haitie we didn't not have religious problems, but imagine in the maghreb... |
| 02:56.24 | Knight_Alien | Religion wise I am Pro for Christianity but I am Neutral to other Religions and I am fine with Atheist. |
| 02:56.39 | Vincent20100 | cool |
| 02:56.42 | DrodoEmpire | "Neutral"? |
| 02:56.42 | Knight_Alien | I only hate Warrior relgions. |
| 02:56.53 | DrodoEmpire | Soo... |
| 02:57.06 | DrodoEmpire | Actually I won't say because you'll be mad. |
| 02:57.10 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 02:57.24 | Vincent20100 | Atheism to Glory! |
| 02:57.38 | Knight_Alien | DrodoEmpire I am ok with them and I will talk to people in them but I will not attend any form of Recruitment and forcing me to will lose a friend. |
| 02:57.46 | DrodoEmpire | I see. |
| 02:58.11 | Vincent20100 | But that's kinda of the essence of religion |
| 02:58.22 | Vincent20100 | "Saving" everybody from damnations. |
| 02:58.26 | Knight_Alien | Atheist I am fine with , I personally hate when people think their Evil or satan worhippers. |
| 02:58.47 | Vincent20100 | Well, it's kinda true we are satanist |
| 02:59.02 | Vincent20100 | Satanist mean "opposed to the Church" |
| 02:59.17 | DrodoEmpire | I don't care what religion people are part of; Christian, Taoist, Muslim, Satanic (which is an EXTREMELY misunderstood faith; They mostly don't actually worship buddy downstairs, very different philosophy) |
| 02:59.24 | Vincent20100 | So we could considred satanist |
| 02:59.42 | DrodoEmpire | Just so long as you don't talk about it nonstop or shove it down my throat |
| 03:00.46 | Knight_Alien | Religion ties into hope and Faith and based upon what my Grandfather has said (He is a pastor) Science is a faithful act. |
| 03:00.49 | DrodoEmpire | Though while we're on the subject I think that both Islam and Christianity could be considered "warrior" religions; It says in both holy books to hate and even go to war against unbelievers/ :P |
| 03:00.54 | DrodoEmpire | No it isn't. |
| 03:01.07 | Knight_Alien | Logically in a way it is. |
| 03:01.08 | DrodoEmpire | Its a thing you must trust, not have blind faith in |
| 03:01.18 | DrodoEmpire | No, it isn't. |
| 03:01.27 | DrodoEmpire | Faith is a blind trust. |
| 03:01.31 | Knight_Alien | oh I thought you were talking about somthing else. |
| 03:01.32 | Vincent20100 | Didn't Jesus last words were "Forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing"? |
| 03:01.51 | Knight_Alien | no. |
| 03:02.09 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 03:02.30 | DrodoEmpire | You need not have blind trust in science because, unlike religion, it backs up its statements with facts, experimentation, observation, and peer-review. |
| 03:03.00 | DrodoEmpire | "Its just a theory" is a similarly weak and easily-shot down argument. |
| 03:03.09 | Knight_Alien | He was not comparing it to Faith. |
| 03:03.30 | DrodoEmpire | You're right, he said it WAS faith or you had to have faith in it. You don't/ |
| 03:03.40 | Knight_Alien | I think he was mostly saying it is a act because it is progressing the people. |
| 03:03.48 | DrodoEmpire | Because no matter what you believe its still right; Its been tested and confirmed to be right. |
| 03:04.18 | Vincent20100 | ^ |
| 03:04.25 | Knight_Alien | I am not sure I can't speak fot his behalf. |
| 03:04.31 | DrodoEmpire | Its fine. |
| 03:04.35 | Knight_Alien | I didn't go to colledge for it. |
| 03:04.48 | DrodoEmpire | I understand what he (probably) means. |
| 03:05.07 | Knight_Alien | So that stuff and why it is , is problably all laerned in colledge. |
| 03:05.27 | Knight_Alien | I just talk to him alot. |
| 03:05.28 | Vincent20100 | You don't have to beleive in science, since science's is based upon truths. |
| 03:05.48 | Knight_Alien | Some people don't believe in science. |
| 03:05.59 | Zillafire101 | Dr. Insano is disappiont |
| 03:05.59 | Knight_Alien | I do but some other people don't. |
| 03:06.00 | DrodoEmpire | Irrelevant. Its still true. |
| 03:06.01 | Vincent20100 | It is not necessary |
| 03:06.18 | DrodoEmpire | And most of the time really doesn't infringe on religious beliefs |
| 03:06.31 | Vincent20100 | Their is 3 stages to knowleadge: Beliefs, Opinions, Truth |
| 03:06.40 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:07.17 | Vincent20100 | Beleifs has to be abandonned to have opinions (which are theories) theories are verified (most of them are flase) and the true ones become Truth |
| 03:07.34 | DrodoEmpire | Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam, etc.) are unique in their opposition of evolution; Seeing as they're an anomaly in their belief that human beings are "special" or have an apartness from nature |
| 03:07.40 | Vincent20100 | I think it was Socrates who did this reflexion |
| 03:08.30 | DrodoEmpire | Most religions believe humanity is connected with nature or even that its just another part of it |
| 03:08.45 | Knight_Alien | Unlike other Chirstian's you may have noticed I am not angery. |
| 03:08.56 | Vincent20100 | hug Knight |
| 03:08.56 | DrodoEmpire | So they wouldn't really object to the idea that we "came from an ape" (which in itself is a silly simplification of evolution) |
| 03:09.02 | Knight_Alien | By now they may have blown their top off XD |
| 03:09.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I noticed; Its good that you have tolerance for other beliefs. |
| 03:09.15 | DrodoEmpire | Good on you, mate |
| 03:09.20 | DrodoEmpire | pats Knight on the back |
| 03:10.15 | Vincent20100 | I love scientist archetype in spore |
| 03:10.32 | Vincent20100 | Just oblierationg a planet (without destroying it) is awesome! |
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| 03:10.46 | Vincent20100 | MASTER! |
| 03:10.47 | MasterMachine | Hello |
| 03:10.52 | Knight_Alien | The People I meet in real life are most of the time ignorant so I am not used to seeing a calm crowd. |
| 03:10.58 | Vincent20100 | I have added a new section |
| 03:10.59 | MasterMachine | Hur |
| 03:11.01 | MasterMachine | Oh cool |
| 03:11.02 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 03:11.17 | MasterMachine | I sorry 4 laziness |
| 03:11.23 | MasterMachine | School is bitch |
| 03:11.24 | Vincent20100 | Games of Power. |
| 03:11.42 | Vincent20100 | New maps also |
| 03:12.18 | Vincent20100 | Personally (about the religon thingy) I think the problem is education |
| 03:12.46 | Knight_Alien | Well it is that no one knows anything so they are afraid of the unkown. |
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| 03:13.00 | DrodoEmpire | So ignorance. |
| 03:13.00 | Vincent20100 | What I will say sound horrible but... |
| 03:13.04 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 03:13.07 | Vincent20100 | Hey |
| 03:13.08 | DrodoEmpire | Go on |
| 03:13.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Tek |
| 03:13.17 | Vincent20100 | Zealot should not raise childs |
| 03:13.34 | Vincent20100 | It should be removed from them and correctly educated |
| 03:13.34 | DrodoEmpire | Well how do you define a fundementalist? |
| 03:13.46 | Knight_Alien | I hope I am not classified as a Zealot. |
| 03:13.47 | DrodoEmpire | YOu can't fix stupid (fundementalism) |
| 03:13.55 | DrodoEmpire | No you're a moderate, trust me. XD |
| 03:14.15 | Vincent20100 | http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/fundamentalism |
| 03:14.21 | Vincent20100 | Not you Knight |
| 03:14.28 | DrodoEmpire | Not only that but you'd be spitting on one of the most important a cherished freedoms a human has; Freedom of Speech. |
| 03:14.42 | DrodoEmpire | You don't have to agree with what they say but don't silence them |
| 03:14.52 | Vincent20100 | That's the problem |
| 03:14.53 | DrodoEmpire | Counter ignorance with knowledge |
| 03:14.58 | DrodoEmpire | Good with bad |
| 03:15.08 | DrodoEmpire | THAT'S how society mvoe forward. |
| 03:15.11 | DrodoEmpire | *moves |
| 03:15.20 | Vincent20100 | I will not silence them, is it really necessary to allow them to spread their... "thing"? |
| 03:15.24 | Knight_Alien | It seems at the moment Isalm is the major Zealots with all the Terriost groups. |
| 03:15.26 | Vincent20100 | *but |
| 03:15.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yes. |
| 03:15.38 | DrodoEmpire | It is necessary because that's freedom of speech |
| 03:15.53 | DrodoEmpire | A rational human being will reject their idocy out of hand and there is no problem |
| 03:15.55 | Vincent20100 | I don't "believe" in freedom. |
| 03:16.04 | DrodoEmpire | *idiocy |
| 03:16.14 | Vincent20100 | I don't either consider human to be rational. For now at least |
| 03:16.24 | DrodoEmpire | Its the only reason you can say what you are saying now. |
| 03:16.24 | Knight_Alien | Islam is that one of two Religion's I dislike. |
| 03:16.26 | Vincent20100 | And that's what I think is sad |
| 03:16.42 | DrodoEmpire | You're right in thinking that humans aren't naturally rational. |
| 03:16.48 | Vincent20100 | Human could be so much more! |
| 03:16.56 | DrodoEmpire | But we can become rational and enlightened through education and critical thinking |
| 03:17.07 | DrodoEmpire | KA: Because of the actions of the few? |
| 03:17.15 | Vincent20100 | Human could, if they stop "believing", built so much a better universe! |
| 03:17.25 | Vincent20100 | "We can" |
| 03:17.27 | DrodoEmpire | You're own religion isn't much better; Crusades and Westboro Baptists ring a bell? |
| 03:17.30 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:17.32 | Knight_Alien | The Actions of the Groups and their pasts. |
| 03:17.35 | DrodoEmpire | No offence |
| 03:17.35 | Vincent20100 | It doesn't meant there isn't other ways |
| 03:17.47 | Knight_Alien | Also I am already informed about the crusades. |
| 03:18.05 | DrodoEmpire | Okay, Jihads and invasions by Islam, Crusades, torture, and religious intolerance for Christians. |
| 03:18.10 | DrodoEmpire | There. Even. |
| 03:18.16 | MasterMachine | wut |
| 03:18.17 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:18.36 | MasterMachine | Oh we talking about religion? |
| 03:18.40 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 03:18.43 | Vincent20100 | Kinda |
| 03:18.43 | Knight_Alien | Umm.....So Cursade=tourture or Islam+Tourture? |
| 03:18.43 | MasterMachine | I dislike the concept of religion. |
| 03:18.45 | DrodoEmpire | KA I understand why its easy to see all of the Islamic terrorists on TV and say "That religion's bad" |
| 03:19.09 | Knight_Alien | I mean Islam=Tourture? |
| 03:19.13 | DrodoEmpire | But that's a bad thing to assume; Especially when those of your own religion did the exact same thing for their god and their religion |
| 03:19.15 | DrodoEmpire | No... |
| 03:19.25 | MasterMachine | Religion as a concept is the belief is something that cannot be proven and as such cannot be considered real. Thus, it is just humans arguing over who's imaginary friend is better/real. |
| 03:19.35 | DrodoEmpire | I mean both Christians and Muslims have done horrid atrocities. |
| 03:19.41 | Knight_Alien | Ya |
| 03:19.46 | Vincent20100 | MAster: +1 |
| 03:20.01 | Knight_Alien | To many people talking swoops my posts away. |
| 03:20.12 | MasterMachine | points out that about 85% of all conflict has its roots in religion and that 95% of all conflict has roots in idealogy. |
| 03:20.14 | Vincent20100 | That's a downside to chats |
| 03:20.32 | Vincent20100 | I have no problem with ideology conflicts |
| 03:20.36 | DrodoEmpire | So you are throwing stones in a glass house by disliking Islam on those grounds but being Christian |
| 03:20.38 | Knight_Alien | It was Crusade=Tourture or Islam=tourture? |
| 03:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:20.42 | MasterMachine | That other 5% is basically "lol, gimmi land" |
| 03:20.45 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean? |
| 03:20.59 | DrodoEmpire | MM, where did you get those numbers? |
| 03:21.03 | Vincent20100 | I'm not sure it isn't 50 - 50 for gimme clay master. ^^ |
| 03:21.03 | Knight_Alien | I no I wouldn't defile the Islam...! |
| 03:21.09 | MasterMachine | Made them up just now xD |
| 03:21.15 | MasterMachine | Because lul |
| 03:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | No war has been fought for JUST religion |
| 03:21.24 | DrodoEmpire | Or JUST for ideology |
| 03:21.34 | MasterMachine | But lots have been STARTED for just religion or ideology |
| 03:21.38 | DrodoEmpire | Don't pull numbers out of your ass in a serious discussion |
| 03:21.40 | DrodoEmpire | Mehh... |
| 03:21.47 | Knight_Alien | I would never defile a Church or any place. |
| 03:21.54 | DrodoEmpire | Crusades where for taking back the holy LAND; LAAAND |
| 03:21.56 | MasterMachine | I honestly don't care much |
| 03:22.03 | Knight_Alien | No Stones through Islam for me. |
| 03:22.05 | DrodoEmpire | It was for religion and also to create a buffer zone |
| 03:22.10 | DrodoEmpire | Its a saying, KA... |
| 03:22.13 | DrodoEmpire | A saying... |
| 03:22.20 | DrodoEmpire | It means you're a bit hypocritical |
| 03:22.25 | MasterMachine | Religion = Obsolite moral compas. |
| 03:22.27 | Vincent20100 | I think ideology conflicts are rights. Fighting for what you consider as Justice is very very honourable. |
| 03:22.43 | DrodoEmpire | But taking up arms for it almost never is |
| 03:22.48 | MasterMachine | Ideology Conflict - Communism v/s Capitalism |
| 03:22.50 | Vincent20100 | Even if I disagree with your ideology, I still admirer them. |
| 03:23.00 | DrodoEmpire | Unless you yourself are being oppressed violentl |
| 03:23.03 | DrodoEmpire | *violently |
| 03:23.12 | MasterMachine | Religion Conflict - Islam v/s Christianity (Crusades) |
| 03:23.27 | Vincent20100 | Well, that's the case most of the time |
| 03:23.31 | Knight_Alien | Islam Terriost gruopsades. |
| 03:23.45 | MasterMachine | Christian Terrorists exist too you know... |
| 03:23.59 | Vincent20100 | When fighting for ideologies, it isn't about freeing yourself, but freeing Everybody. |
| 03:23.59 | Knight_Alien | Ya. |
| 03:24.15 | MasterMachine | Every religion has it's stupid extremists and they make the rest of the religion look bad |
| 03:24.20 | Knight_Alien | And they are stupid for being terriosts and my respect is none for them. |
| 03:24.24 | MasterMachine | Ok |
| 03:24.46 | MasterMachine | Respect decent follows of Islam, Judism, and the like. |
| 03:24.49 | Knight_Alien | Anyone who kills over Religion I disrespect. |
| 03:24.54 | Vincent20100 | No matter is is for Christian ideology and communism ideology (or whaterever) I kinda have some admiration for people doing it |
| 03:24.55 | DrodoEmpire | Good. |
| 03:24.57 | MasterMachine | Disrespect dicks who are stupid and kill people. |
| 03:25.03 | Knight_Alien | Their are SO many other ways to handle it. |
| 03:25.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yes. |
| 03:25.34 | Knight_Alien | Also I personally dislike killing people. |
| 03:25.43 | MasterMachine | I still think that religion should mind its own business though. |
| 03:25.44 | Vincent20100 | Not me |
| 03:25.52 | Vincent20100 | I think it can be justified |
| 03:26.02 | DrodoEmpire | KA: Most have a natural aversion to murder. XD |
| 03:26.07 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 03:26.16 | Vincent20100 | Depending for Why you do it |
| 03:26.23 | DrodoEmpire | Though war, while a terrible, terrible horrible thing, has its uses. |
| 03:26.32 | MasterMachine | Yep |
| 03:26.35 | Knight_Alien | Religion I think sould still have a vocie instead of pushed to the side and called a Ignorant muder. |
| 03:26.36 | Vincent20100 | It depend the cause of the war |
| 03:26.42 | MasterMachine | War is one of the great engines of innovation |
| 03:26.46 | Vincent20100 | War for profit aren't justify in my book |
| 03:26.52 | MasterMachine | #MONEY! |
| 03:26.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its a terrible loss of life, but not always a waste of it. |
| 03:26.54 | Vincent20100 | Only wars for Ideas are |
| 03:27.07 | DrodoEmpire | Wars for ideas are stupid and unnecessary] |
| 03:27.17 | DrodoEmpire | You can debate them peacefully |
| 03:27.21 | DrodoEmpire | Fight ideas with ideas |
| 03:27.28 | MasterMachine | wars for ideals are as stupid as that bucket war thing |
| 03:27.29 | Knight_Alien | Religion I think is dieing. in many. |
| 03:27.32 | Vincent20100 | War for profit are unjust and sign of oppressions! |
| 03:27.33 | DrodoEmpire | Don't suppress them with steel and blood. |
| 03:27.52 | DrodoEmpire | KA: Well depending on your viewpoint that's a good/bad thing. |
| 03:27.52 | MasterMachine | Not to be rude to religious people, but I for one and happy with the fading of religion. |
| 03:28.10 | Vincent20100 | You cannot steal someone's ressources because "I need it for myself". |
| 03:28.11 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 03:28.12 | DrodoEmpire | I think it'll make way for a more rational society; But I respect religious people and their right to one |
| 03:28.15 | MasterMachine | I have little against religion, but it is an old system and should sucumm to newer systems. |
| 03:28.26 | DrodoEmpire | I also find religions interesting to study |
| 03:28.44 | MasterMachine | They are definitly interesting |
| 03:28.45 | Knight_Alien | Somthing never die. |
| 03:28.51 | Knight_Alien | dies. |
| 03:29.02 | MasterMachine | The way they shape history, social styles, and even economics is impressive. |
| 03:29.14 | MasterMachine | Knight_Alien - Rule 1: Everything dies. |
| 03:29.17 | Vincent20100 | Impressive, but unnecessary |
| 03:29.36 | MasterMachine | Vince, religion helped save massive amounts of historical data during the Dark Ages |
| 03:29.54 | DrodoEmpire | Without it the Dark Ages may never have happened. |
| 03:29.57 | MasterMachine | It also served as a powerful tool for enforcing law, and still does to this day. |
| 03:30.03 | Vincent20100 | Yes, but at the same time, it isn't jsutifying it's existenc either |
| 03:30.04 | DrodoEmpire | Or would have been far less brutal |
| 03:30.10 | MasterMachine | Nope, Dark Ages had numerous causes, religion was just 1 of them |
| 03:30.18 | Knight_Alien | :} master I am surprised by not having hope in somthing that has been around for a very long time. |
| 03:30.29 | DrodoEmpire | MM, Church and state should NEVER FUCKING MEET. |
| 03:30.33 | MasterMachine | Fall of the Roman Empire was primary cause of the Dark Ages |
| 03:30.33 | DrodoEmpire | ITS HORRIBLE. |
| 03:30.43 | DrodoEmpire | Same for law and dogma. |
| 03:31.09 | Vincent20100 | You cannot be against laws |
| 03:31.14 | DrodoEmpire | It was A reason, yes, but an important one. |
| 03:31.16 | Vincent20100 | Laws is science |
| 03:31.16 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not. |
| 03:31.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'm saying that religion should never, ever be a part of it |
| 03:31.34 | Vincent20100 | I see |
| 03:31.53 | DrodoEmpire | Plus if people weren't so superstitous pack then maybe so many people would die horrible pointless deaths |
| 03:31.54 | Vincent20100 | Well, it'S the reverse: Science is law(s) |
| 03:31.57 | MasterMachine | Drodo, the Dark Ages ocurred because of the collapse of the Roman Empire, the arrival of the Bubonic Plague, and the assortment of political wars over who gets to be the new rome. |
| 03:32.13 | DrodoEmpire | Bubonic plague came in the 1300's. |
| 03:32.20 | Vincent20100 | Death is always pointless Drodo |
| 03:32.20 | TekDroid | ^ |
| 03:32.21 | MasterMachine | Religion actually served to limit the loss of knoledge during that period by keeping it in libraries and monestaries. |
| 03:32.33 | TekDroid | Good night. |
| 03:32.34 | DrodoEmpire | I also conceded it was only A reason |
| 03:32.40 | DrodoEmpire | Vincent: No. |
| 03:32.44 | MasterMachine | Oh right |
| 03:32.45 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 03:32.47 | MasterMachine | Dumb plague |
| 03:32.55 | DrodoEmpire | Death for your country, or yes, an ideology, is never pointless. |
| 03:33.07 | MasterMachine | Personally I think war is stupid. |
| 03:33.09 | Vincent20100 | The whole universe is pointless, and that is the emptyness that religion is trying to fit |
| 03:33.20 | DrodoEmpire | It is possible and honourable to have a purposeful death/. |
| 03:33.23 | DrodoEmpire | A death for a cause |
| 03:33.25 | MasterMachine | Purpose of Life: Live bitches life! |
| 03:33.30 | Vincent20100 | Death for country is pointless, only for ideas is it not |
| 03:33.33 | MasterMachine | *Life bitches Life. |
| 03:33.50 | MasterMachine | Or 42 |
| 03:33.51 | MasterMachine | :P |
| 03:33.53 | DrodoEmpire | So you contradict yourself by admitting there is a reason for death; Ideas. |
| 03:34.05 | Vincent20100 | You are right then |
| 03:34.08 | DrodoEmpire | MM, to me the reason of life is whatever you want it to be |
| 03:34.13 | DrodoEmpire | But I disagree/ |
| 03:34.13 | MasterMachine | Yeah |
| 03:34.18 | DrodoEmpire | It can be for an ideal |
| 03:34.19 | Vincent20100 | Ideas are the only way to not dye a pointless death |
| 03:34.23 | MasterMachine | I want it to be for fum |
| 03:34.23 | DrodoEmpire | Or for your country |
| 03:34.26 | MasterMachine | Because fum. |
| 03:34.26 | Vincent20100 | Nah |
| 03:34.30 | Vincent20100 | Not for country |
| 03:34.32 | DrodoEmpire | Why? |
| 03:34.37 | DrodoEmpire | You never explain yourself |
| 03:34.45 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 03:34.47 | DrodoEmpire | You only reject out of hand |
| 03:34.59 | MasterMachine | if someone is willing to die for something than it is worth dying for - in their eyes. |
| 03:35.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:35.03 | Vincent20100 | Countries are like religions: they should not exist |
| 03:35.08 | MasterMachine | ... |
| 03:35.09 | DrodoEmpire | It is subjective |
| 03:35.10 | MasterMachine | Vincent |
| 03:35.19 | MasterMachine | That is the most rediclous thing I've ever heard. |
| 03:35.21 | MasterMachine | Actually |
| 03:35.23 | MasterMachine | It's not |
| 03:35.26 | Knight_Alien | Wait Waht! |
| 03:35.27 | MasterMachine | Just pretty close to it |
| 03:35.29 | DrodoEmpire | YOu do realise that without countries you wouldn't be on this computer? |
| 03:35.40 | Vincent20100 | You don't know that Drodo |
| 03:35.47 | MasterMachine | Yeah we can |
| 03:35.56 | MasterMachine | Government funding made the internet happen |
| 03:36.02 | Vincent20100 | History is history, you can't assume something would not exist if it was changed |
| 03:36.04 | DrodoEmpire | Without political entities civilization cannot exist |
| 03:36.12 | DrodoEmpire | I can make a damn good guess mate |
| 03:36.25 | Vincent20100 | Political entities doesn,t = countries |
| 03:36.25 | MasterMachine | Humans literally NEED a form of government in order to live in a society. |
| 03:36.33 | Vincent20100 | Government yes |
| 03:36.33 | MasterMachine | Yes it does... xD |
| 03:36.41 | DrodoEmpire | Without civilization societal order breaks down to the tribal level; And we all know how advanced tribes are |
| 03:36.45 | MasterMachine | Countries are a form of political entity. |
| 03:36.48 | Vincent20100 | That's an important subject government =/= country |
| 03:37.00 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, so you wish for a world government? |
| 03:37.04 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
| 03:37.10 | MasterMachine | Oh |
| 03:37.12 | MasterMachine | Me gusta |
| 03:37.14 | Vincent20100 | That would still mean civilization |
| 03:37.19 | Knight_Alien | This whole conversation insulted me :| |
| 03:37.20 | MasterMachine | World f*cking Order bitches! |
| 03:37.24 | DrodoEmpire | Of course it would now that I understand. |
| 03:37.29 | DrodoEmpire | But I still disagree |
| 03:37.45 | MasterMachine | Knight_Alien, sorry about that. Remember that none of this is on a personal basis. |
| 03:37.50 | Vincent20100 | Human should not be splited and should all be united togheter |
| 03:37.55 | DrodoEmpire | I think humanity isn't ready for such a thing. |
| 03:37.56 | Knight_Alien | Not you |
| 03:38.15 | Vincent20100 | We could also say humanity isn't ready to abandon religion... |
| 03:38.28 | DrodoEmpire | The diversity of cultures, religions, customs, and peoples is just too much for a single government to control |
| 03:38.32 | Knight_Alien | THIS!!!!! Countries are like religions: they should not exist |
| 03:38.33 | MasterMachine | Vincent, I can think of 1 very good reason for humans to remain split between nations: competition. Competition in all it's forms is the primary source of evolution, inovation, and advancement. |
| 03:38.43 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:39.00 | Vincent20100 | Competition between species, not between themselves. |
| 03:39.07 | MasterMachine | Uh actually |
| 03:39.23 | DrodoEmpire | As well, the thought of investing that much power, the entire human species, into one man or council's hand is terrifying, |
| 03:39.24 | DrodoEmpire | *. |
| 03:39.28 | MasterMachine | Hammerhead Sharks v/s Normal Sharks - they used to be the same, but evolved into two different branches due to internal competition |
| 03:39.38 | Vincent20100 | Not necessarly into one man Drodo |
| 03:39.42 | Vincent20100 | Into a council maybe |
| 03:39.46 | DrodoEmpire | hence "council" |
| 03:39.57 | DrodoEmpire | Actually competition inside of a species is completely natural thing |
| 03:40.04 | MasterMachine | Without that competition for resources, hammerheads wouldn't exist or would have taken far longer to evolve. |
| 03:40.08 | Vincent20100 | ANd furthermore, humans are KINDA above evolutionnary competiton Let me explain what I mean |
| 03:40.12 | Vincent20100 | Let me explain |
| 03:40.15 | MasterMachine | We aren't... |
| 03:40.24 | DrodoEmpire | You can see it in males of most species fighting over a mate, just as humans fight over resources |
| 03:40.29 | DrodoEmpire | Or, indeed, a mate too. |
| 03:40.35 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 03:40.39 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 03:40.39 | MasterMachine | So many drunk bar battles |
| 03:40.45 | Knight_Alien | Fighting over females is stupid in the human world. |
| 03:40.47 | DrodoEmpire | Its nature's work! |
| 03:40.48 | Vincent20100 | If really human were in competion between each other, we would not have civilization at all |
| 03:40.57 | DrodoEmpire | You have it backwards |
| 03:40.59 | Vincent20100 | Civilization is the product of cooperation |
| 03:41.18 | DrodoEmpire | Humans banded together out of mutual fear of other humans and threats |
| 03:41.31 | DrodoEmpire | We're a paradox, actually |
| 03:41.31 | Vincent20100 | Drodo: That's Kant philosophy |
| 03:41.51 | DrodoEmpire | We will cooperate but we are extremely competitive; Such is the order of things. |
| 03:41.53 | DrodoEmpire | And? |
| 03:41.54 | Vincent20100 | Kant philosophy is no longer accepted among anthropologist |
| 03:41.56 | MasterMachine | Civilization is actually the product of the human female needing a more seditary lifestyle for safer reproduction and child rearing. Males would LOVE a nomadic tribal lifestyle. |
| 03:42.01 | DrodoEmpire | That's your silly dismissal? |
| 03:42.10 | Vincent20100 | Have you read The Leviathan? |
| 03:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | "Oh it was dismissed by people smarter than me" |
| 03:42.30 | Vincent20100 | There is always people smarter than us, men you etc. |
| 03:42.36 | Vincent20100 | *me you etc |
| 03:42.41 | MasterMachine | Now |
| 03:42.45 | MasterMachine | As for evolution |
| 03:42.49 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I know. Its called a jab at you. :P |
| 03:43.02 | DrodoEmpire | I'm frankly losing my patience with your endless arguments. |
| 03:43.05 | Knight_Alien | MM your saying men like to kill stuff and go home to a dirty house were you just eat and have sex!!!! |
| 03:43.10 | MasterMachine | Humans are definitly still evolving - indeed, we're evolving faster than ever before in all of human history. |
| 03:43.22 | Vincent20100 | Because Drodo, people have already discussed these things before |
| 03:43.32 | DrodoEmpire | So why argue again? |
| 03:43.43 | MasterMachine | It is theorized that humans of different nationalities will actually become different breeds of human in the next thousand years or so |
| 03:43.52 | Knight_Alien | I am very certain I don't want to kill stuff and go home to a dirty A** hut! |
| 03:43.54 | DrodoEmpire | Probably not. |
| 03:44.15 | Vincent20100 | Humans are evolving because of their environment (like most species) , but humans are the only specy to actually modified their environment faster than they evolve |
| 03:44.20 | DrodoEmpire | The rate of interracial marriage and breeding is going up which would stall that process |
| 03:44.22 | DrodoEmpire | I think |
| 03:44.23 | Knight_Alien | And have sex that is not how I think! |
| 03:44.25 | MasterMachine | KA, that's similar to what I'm saying - human males reproductive systems are styled for having tons of children over their entire life. |
| 03:44.40 | MasterMachine | Human females can only have a limited number, and take time to raise them. |
| 03:44.50 | MasterMachine | Guess who wants a stable envioremtn. |
| 03:45.10 | MasterMachine | 'course, as this point, the whole "rape & pillage" thing has evolved right out of us |
| 03:45.15 | MasterMachine | due to the span of our civilization |
| 03:45.16 | Vincent20100 | Therefor, by shaping their environment, humans are able to control their evolution |
| 03:45.24 | MasterMachine | Nope |
| 03:45.30 | Knight_Alien | So Males should be reproduction machines you say? |
| 03:45.32 | MasterMachine | We can control PARTS of it |
| 03:45.36 | Vincent20100 | Yes |
| 03:45.40 | Vincent20100 | Parts of it |
| 03:45.52 | DrodoEmpire | KA, its not a matter of SHOULD, we ARE. |
| 03:45.53 | Vincent20100 | But the further technology progress, the bigger this parts gets |
| 03:46.02 | DrodoEmpire | Its a fact |
| 03:46.04 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 03:46.08 | MasterMachine | We can control, for example, hair growth and height - clothing makes hair growth less wanted, and more food allows larger body size. |
| 03:46.11 | Knight_Alien | I not a Sex machine! |
| 03:46.17 | MasterMachine | Knight, calm down |
| 03:46.20 | MasterMachine | Sheesh |
| 03:46.21 | Knight_Alien | Says nope and leaves |
| 03:46.26 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 03:46.37 | DrodoEmpire | Biologically speaking we have the ability to produce sperm and have sex for most of out life; Its normal, natural, and a fact. |
| 03:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | *our |
| 03:46.55 | MasterMachine | Human Males are designed to reproduce with multiple females in a manner similar to lions. |
| 03:47.04 | MasterMachine | Which is also what the first human tribes were like |
| 03:47.05 | Knight_Alien | -_- |
| 03:47.06 | DrodoEmpire | Its the decision to control that urge that makes us more civilided. |
| 03:47.09 | MasterMachine | Yep |
| 03:47.10 | DrodoEmpire | *civilized |
| 03:47.26 | Vincent20100 | Mariages are civilizations basis |
| 03:47.27 | MasterMachine | You don't need to behave like an animal just because we are (technically) animals |
| 03:47.30 | Knight_Alien | This is a shameful display! |
| 03:47.36 | DrodoEmpire | We aren't saying "fuck as many chicks as you can get your hands on" |
| 03:47.39 | Knight_Alien | -_- |
| 03:47.49 | DrodoEmpire | We're saying you have the ability to but the responsibility not to |
| 03:48.02 | DrodoEmpire | In other words, read our shit before getting mad, please. |
| 03:48.02 | MasterMachine | We're saying "if machine is built to fuck, it can choose not to, but is still built to fuck" |
| 03:48.06 | Vincent20100 | But if sex-control is the base of civilization, that mean fear isn't, no? ^^ |
| 03:48.09 | Knight_Alien | I am not mad. |
| 03:48.21 | DrodoEmpire | We never said it was |
| 03:48.26 | DrodoEmpire | Take a tinfoil hat off, Vinny. |
| 03:48.28 | Knight_Alien | I am surpirsed it is this we are speaking about. |
| 03:48.30 | DrodoEmpire | We're done |
| 03:48.33 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 03:48.44 | MasterMachine | We started with religion and somehow ended up with sex |
| 03:48.46 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 03:48.51 | Vincent20100 | Sex control is the real bases of civilization (with the form of mariages mainly) |
| 03:49.01 | MasterMachine | Ah, interwebs, you never cease to disapoint! |
| 03:49.09 | Knight_Alien | Religion,Government,Human Evloution,One world gov,Sex. |
| 03:49.18 | MasterMachine | So |
| 03:49.38 | Knight_Alien | is in -_- mood. |
| 03:49.39 | MasterMachine | Who wants to theorize what religion will say about the first non-human inteligent species we encounter? |
| 03:49.50 | Vincent20100 | Not me |
| 03:49.54 | DrodoEmpire | Vinny, agriculture started civilization and one of the bases of it; Sex control is a part of civilization that comes in the form of marriage |
| 03:49.57 | MasterMachine | "Humans are made in the image of God" right? |
| 03:50.05 | DrodoEmpire | Probably started to keep population levels managable |
| 03:50.07 | MasterMachine | So what would that mean for a nonhuman civilization? |
| 03:50.17 | Knight_Alien | Chirstianity wise it will be sort of neutral. |
| 03:50.23 | DrodoEmpire | That we're conceited little pricks, that's what. XD |
| 03:50.23 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 03:50.27 | Vincent20100 | Therefor, agriculture is the base of civilization, no? ^^ |
| 03:50.28 | MasterMachine | Are they demons? Or are they just not created by god? |
| 03:50.48 | MasterMachine | Base of Civilization = Security |
| 03:50.49 | DrodoEmpire | We can't be made in god's image because our bodies are inefficient and feeble. |
| 03:50.54 | Knight_Alien | Their like Animals they goto heaven but it is not the same. |
| 03:51.01 | MasterMachine | The mirror was broken Drodo. |
| 03:51.13 | Vincent20100 | I agree with the last parts: Sex-control and agriculture is base of civs, but not necessarly fear. |
| 03:51.23 | DrodoEmpire | Why would a god be so inefficent and feeble? Or why would he mess up so bad with US? |
| 03:51.30 | Knight_Alien | So MM Aliens go to their own sort of pocketdimension heaven. |
| 03:51.36 | Vincent20100 | Because god is EVIL! ^^ |
| 03:51.45 | MasterMachine | He was bored, so he decided "Ima make them f*cking weirdos for the lulz" |
| 03:51.47 | MasterMachine | idk |
| 03:52.01 | Knight_Alien | WHy Vicnent his he Evil? |
| 03:52.05 | Vincent20100 | If god is almighty, why can't he un-bother himself? ^^ |
| 03:52.07 | DrodoEmpire | HMMM... |
| 03:52.17 | Knight_Alien | WTF. |
| 03:52.23 | MasterMachine | Security = Food, Water, Shelter, Clothing = Civilization |
| 03:52.23 | Knight_Alien | Un-bother. |
| 03:52.27 | MasterMachine | Un bother xD |
| 03:52.53 | MasterMachine | KA, I honestly want to hear your opinion on this: If God is all-powerful, can he choose to die? |
| 03:53.01 | DrodoEmpire | I WONDER WHY HE'S EVIL... (Noah's flood, Sodom and Gommorrah, that Abraham incident, killing Pharoah's army and decimating egypt's population) |
| 03:53.14 | Vincent20100 | Most early villages weren't waring against each other Master. In fact, archeologist studies have shown they were trading, not fighting. |
| 03:53.23 | Vincent20100 | ^ Drodo |
| 03:53.28 | Knight_Alien | He killed people who had orgeys for fun and raped and fucking killed people for fun Drodo. |
| 03:53.44 | MasterMachine | Except for that one village 4,000 years ago that had walls.... |
| 03:53.46 | Angrybirds | The frick is this? |
| 03:53.55 | MasterMachine | This is the internet, welcome. |
| 03:53.55 | Knight_Alien | AB welcome to Religion! |
| 03:53.58 | Vincent20100 | Wall against animals, not humans |
| 03:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | Early humans warred ALL OF THE TIME |
| 03:54.14 | MasterMachine | How do you know? |
| 03:54.17 | Vincent20100 | No |
| 03:54.22 | MasterMachine | Humans were an aggressive species. |
| 03:54.23 | DrodoEmpire | Why? HMM... |
| 03:54.24 | Vincent20100 | Early human were trading |
| 03:54.27 | DrodoEmpire | Weapons, |
| 03:54.30 | Vincent20100 | Look at the primitive mtribes |
| 03:54.31 | MasterMachine | We wiped out the other two humanoid species on earth |
| 03:54.40 | DrodoEmpire | Cave paintings depicting organized warfare. |
| 03:54.44 | DrodoEmpire | Stories of war, |
| 03:54.46 | Vincent20100 | Primitives tribes still existing aren't at war for most |
| 03:54.48 | DrodoEmpire | mass-graves, |
| 03:54.50 | MasterMachine | (Homo Neandethalus and Homo Erectus) |
| 03:55.00 | DrodoEmpire | Vince: No, many are very warlike |
| 03:55.08 | Vincent20100 | Cave painting show hunting seasons, not warfare! |
| 03:55.13 | MasterMachine | Vince, technically no one is at war for "most of their time" because war is a massive drain on a civilization |
| 03:55.14 | Vincent20100 | ... |
| 03:55.17 | Vincent20100 | That's false |
| 03:55.20 | DrodoEmpire | No, there are ones that very clearly depict fighting |
| 03:55.22 | Vincent20100 | Look at the Bushman |
| 03:55.33 | MasterMachine | Look at WW2, it left europe a pile of smoking ruins |
| 03:55.34 | Vincent20100 | Yeah, but these are exceptions |
| 03:55.35 | DrodoEmpire | Men using bows against other men, |
| 03:55.41 | DrodoEmpire | Encirclement |
| 03:55.44 | MasterMachine | As such, wars happen, but they don't happen ALWAYS |
| 03:55.46 | Vincent20100 | War-painting are pretty rare |
| 03:55.47 | DrodoEmpire | Death |
| 03:55.49 | DrodoEmpire | its all there |
| 03:55.52 | Knight_Alien | What are we discussing? |
| 03:56.08 | DrodoEmpire | Most are of hunting bit there are plenty also showing raids and early warfare |
| 03:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | *but |
| 03:56.17 | Angrybirds | The vast majority of early warfare took the form of raids, tribesmen attacking other tribes in order to seize food, resources, and women. |
| 03:56.33 | DrodoEmpire | And considering how sophisticated some of the tactics are as depicted, they where damn good at it too |
| 03:56.45 | Vincent20100 | But still, these are exceptions. Most early civilization were very peaceful |
| 03:56.51 | DrodoEmpire | Some have things like encirclement and archers |
| 03:56.54 | Angrybirds | This is before civilizations. |
| 03:56.58 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:57.08 | Vincent20100 | In fact, when the conquistador arrived, no primitives ever attacked them. They only defended |
| 03:57.13 | DrodoEmpire | lul |
| 03:57.21 | MasterMachine | AH! You're talking about the Americas. |
| 03:57.22 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (48df64d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.223.100.214) |
| 03:57.28 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 03:57.32 | DrodoEmpire | And early civilization (Sumer, etc.) where loosely-related city-states that fought all of the time |
| 03:57.36 | MasterMachine | By the time the conquest started 90% of their population was wiped out by smallpox. |
| 03:57.39 | MasterMachine | Hi Quark |
| 03:57.45 | DrodoEmpire | And they where at times violent |
| 03:57.51 | Vincent20100 | That's false |
| 03:57.53 | DrodoEmpire | And they themselves warred all of the time |
| 03:57.59 | DrodoEmpire | No it isn't. Read a book. |
| 03:58.01 | MasterMachine | Aztecs were the most aggressive civilization on earth. |
| 03:58.03 | Vincent20100 | I have |
| 03:58.09 | MasterMachine | Except mayne Nazis |
| 03:58.18 | DrodoEmpire | Iroquois tribes fought constantly |
| 03:58.26 | Vincent20100 | I can send you my school anthropologic book if you want |
| 03:58.32 | DrodoEmpire | Apaches had their entire culture based around war |
| 03:58.36 | Vincent20100 | Iroquois were an execptions |
| 03:58.41 | DrodoEmpire | No they weren't |
| 03:58.50 | Vincent20100 | Huroins, eskimaut, inuits, mohawks were peacfuls |
| 03:58.56 | Quark8 | uh... what are we talking about? |
| 03:58.59 | DrodoEmpire | No... |
| 03:59.06 | Knight_Alien | War |
| 03:59.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hurons and Iroquois fought all of the time; Don't bullshit me. |
| 03:59.12 | MasterMachine | Humans by default are an aggressive species. We are warriors and hunters and omnivores - we kill when we want and ask for no forgiveness. |
| 03:59.21 | DrodoEmpire | Mohawks fought a lot |
| 03:59.28 | Vincent20100 | The Iroquois were just very savage |
| 03:59.32 | DrodoEmpire | No |
| 03:59.36 | Vincent20100 | Hurons were defending themselves |
| 03:59.41 | MasterMachine | Quark8, we're somewhere in between talking about war and probably gonna be on MLP soon -_- |
| 03:59.46 | Vincent20100 | You know what, enough |
| 03:59.55 | Quark8 | MLP? |
| 03:59.57 | DrodoEmpire | Now you're belittling cultures and pulling things out of your ass |
| 03:59.59 | Vincent20100 | I will post you my anthropologic book |
| 04:00.00 | DrodoEmpire | Stop |
| 04:00.22 | Vincent20100 | Like that, you will see the truth |
| 04:00.51 | DrodoEmpire | Quit it with your pretentious attitude |
| 04:00.55 | DrodoEmpire | Admit that your wrong |
| 04:00.58 | Vincent20100 | http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/telecourse-study-guide-for-haviland-prins-mcbride-walraths-cultural-anthropology-haviland/1116881436?ean=9781285053882 |
| 04:01.00 | MasterMachine | Europe: Long history of war. Middle East: long history of war. Africa: long history of war, Asia: long history of war. Americas: Long history of (and human sacrifice), Pacific Islands: not so much war, but still war. |
| 04:01.16 | Vincent20100 | Stop calling me pretentious |
| 04:01.21 | Vincent20100 | HEre |
| 04:01.23 | MasterMachine | Meanwhile, in Autralia, they were fighting giant lizards |
| 04:01.23 | DrodoEmpire | Its not my fauly you are. |
| 04:01.36 | Vincent20100 | Drodo, you are too, admit it too |
| 04:01.36 | DrodoEmpire | Iroquois, Huron, Apaches, Mi'kmaq, Aztec, and Incas all fought. |
| 04:01.39 | DrodoEmpire | How? |
| 04:01.48 | DrodoEmpire | Do you know what it means? |
| 04:02.08 | MasterMachine | FUN FACT: Australia once had lizards the size of schoolbusses. |
| 04:02.18 | Vincent20100 | [23:59] <DrodoEmpire> Now you're belittling cultures and pulling things out of your ass |
| 04:02.21 | DrodoEmpire | I am not being cocky; I'm trying to counter your arguments and expose what are obviously mistruths. |
| 04:02.31 | Vincent20100 | No, that's being cocky |
| 04:02.39 | DrodoEmpire | I'VE done my homework on history Vinny. |
| 04:02.43 | Vincent20100 | Same here |
| 04:02.46 | MasterMachine | They were wiped out a mere 30k years ago. |
| 04:02.47 | DrodoEmpire | You haven't./ |
| 04:02.49 | Vincent20100 | I have went to college |
| 04:02.50 | MasterMachine | ffs |
| 04:02.58 | MasterMachine | I took two college history courses |
| 04:03.05 | MasterMachine | War was 50% of early human life |
| 04:03.08 | Vincent20100 | I had 3 courses about historical anthropoligc |
| 04:03.16 | Vincent20100 | I can name you my teacher |
| 04:03.16 | MasterMachine | the other 50% was recovering from war |
| 04:03.23 | DrodoEmpire | You must have been asleep for many of them because your arguments don't make sense.] |
| 04:04.02 | DrodoEmpire | Now, I'm done here. |
| 04:04.03 | Vincent20100 | See, I would gladly drop (right or wrong, whatever), but your are very pretentious too |
| 04:04.05 | DrodoEmpire | Finally. |
| 04:04.13 | DrodoEmpire | When? |
| 04:04.26 | Vincent20100 | ... I sent you quotes 2 minutes ago |
| 04:04.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, sorry |
| 04:04.49 | Vincent20100 | [23:59] <DrodoEmpire> Hurons and Iroquois fought all of the time; Don't bullshit me. |
| 04:05.03 | MasterMachine | (they did fight all the time) |
| 04:05.03 | DrodoEmpire | Though unfortunately that's not pretentiousness; That's me losing my patience. |
| 04:05.21 | DrodoEmpire | You claiming your words are "truth" and gospel is. |
| 04:05.23 | Quark8 | how are things on the wiki? |
| 04:05.27 | DrodoEmpire | Fine |
| 04:05.30 | Vincent20100 | [23:54] <DrodoEmpire> Stop bullshiting |
| 04:05.32 | DrodoEmpire | Good, I guess |
| 04:05.36 | DrodoEmpire | Again, not pretentious |
| 04:05.44 | DrodoEmpire | Me losing my patience. |
| 04:05.45 | Vincent20100 | Drod, you too are claiming your to be truth |
| 04:05.49 | DrodoEmpire | How? |
| 04:05.54 | Vincent20100 | that's the whole point of a discussion |
| 04:05.54 | DrodoEmpire | I never said I did |
| 04:05.58 | DrodoEmpire | No it isn't |
| 04:05.58 | Knight_Alien | Whats the Argue? |
| 04:06.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its presenting your OPINION |
| 04:06.05 | Vincent20100 | You would not defend it otherwise |
| 04:06.12 | DrodoEmpire | Not claiming it is absolute truth |
| 04:06.24 | Knight_Alien | Opinion ah a hated thing in this world. |
| 04:06.26 | Vincent20100 | I said coopereation and sex-control is base of civ, you said no, it's fear |
| 04:06.29 | DrodoEmpire | If discussions where about truths I could not discuss fiction |
| 04:06.46 | DrodoEmpire | I said that's why people banded together |
| 04:07.02 | Vincent20100 | Yah, therefor, you think this is true |
| 04:07.12 | Vincent20100 | Is it or not, let's discuss that later |
| 04:07.13 | DrodoEmpire | I think that's my opinion. |
| 04:07.26 | Vincent20100 | But you assumed it was true and defended it |
| 04:07.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'm willing to change it if sufficiently proven wrong; YOu cannot change as truth |
| 04:07.31 | DrodoEmpire | *a |
| 04:07.34 | DrodoEmpire | And yes, lets |
| 04:07.44 | DrodoEmpire | Lets just drop this |
| 04:08.02 | Vincent20100 | All I want you too admit (I do the same) is that your are as pretentious as me |
| 04:08.18 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not |
| 04:08.25 | Knight_Alien | Hmm..... |
| 04:08.26 | MasterMachine | http://www.goodmanga.net/8157/mahou-tsukai-no-yome | This is an interesting manga. Read it. |
| 04:08.35 | Vincent20100 | But you are |
| 04:08.36 | DrodoEmpire | Because I have proven I am not pretentious |
| 04:08.38 | MasterMachine | Also, you're both pretentious pricks. |
| 04:08.45 | Vincent20100 | You have proven nothing |
| 04:08.46 | Angrybirds | ^ |
| 04:08.54 | Vincent20100 | I agree master |
| 04:09.05 | Vincent20100 | I'm pretentious, but not everybody realise they are themselves |
| 04:09.22 | Knight_Alien | Wow Arguing , what a end to what a great discussion. |
| 04:09.32 | MasterMachine | I am totes not pretentious! (But I am better than everyone ever trololol #F*ckYeahMurika) |
| 04:09.32 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 04:09.33 | MasterMachine | :P |
| 04:09.50 | MasterMachine | (ftr, that was joke) |
| 04:10.03 | DrodoEmpire | I lost my patience but I never claimed to be better then you or anyomne else; Nor did I put up a facade to make people think so. |
| 04:10.22 | DrodoEmpire | Again, losing patience =/= pretentiousness |
| 04:10.38 | Vincent20100 | https://www.google.com/search?q=m%27urica+meme&rls=%7Bmoz:distributionID%7D:%7Bmoz:locale%7D:%7Bmoz:official%7D&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=DqACVJWEGIS-ggSwjYHgBQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=906#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=A0rXQJ0LNGx8bM%253A%3BucZV2NrVDM07BM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.imgur.com%252F6WDf03g.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.redditian.com%252Fr%252FAdviceAnimals%252F21qzpl%3B1920%3B1080 |
| 04:10.40 | DrodoEmpire | Or egoism |
| 04:10.58 | MasterMachine | http://i.imgur.com/L0Xw0yu.png |
| 04:11.03 | Quark8 | brb |
| 04:11.08 | Vincent20100 | I never claimed being better than anyone either Drodo |
| 04:11.29 | Vincent20100 | Therefor, that would mean I<m not pretentious either |
| 04:11.32 | DrodoEmpire | You claimed to hold the "truth" |
| 04:11.37 | Vincent20100 | No. |
| 04:11.41 | DrodoEmpire | HMMM.... |
| 04:12.00 | *** join/#sporewiki Defalt (ad02753a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.2.117.58) |
| 04:12.39 | Vincent20100 | We both said some stuff were false, but none of us declared to hold the turth |
| 04:13.00 | Knight_Alien | So what happened , Denail? |
| 04:13.03 | Vincent20100 | Admit it Drod, you are also responsible in part for this whole thing |
| 04:13.28 | Knight_Alien | Thinks to himself whole thing? |
| 04:13.29 | Vincent20100 | I admit it for myself |
| 04:16.01 | MasterMachine | So |
| 04:16.08 | MasterMachine | I just got totally distracted by google |
| 04:16.14 | MasterMachine | Nice work Vince :P |
| 04:16.16 | Vincent20100 | Welcome back! |
| 04:16.23 | DrodoEmpire | "[22:21] <Vincent20100> You are refusing the reality" Is just one quote. Some of your more audaicious ones are gone. |
| 04:16.25 | DrodoEmpire | "[22:24] <Vincent20100> I sent you links and you are still holding on your beleifs" |
| 04:16.32 | Vincent20100 | IS it good Master^ |
| 04:16.34 | DrodoEmpire | Those are a few. |
| 04:16.39 | Vincent20100 | YEs |
| 04:16.39 | MasterMachine | explodes |
| 04:16.48 | Vincent20100 | I sent links |
| 04:16.50 | DrodoEmpire | Some more direct ones will be in by tomorrow but I won't bother |
| 04:16.56 | Vincent20100 | I sourced my things |
| 04:16.57 | Angrybirds | Guys. |
| 04:17.02 | Angrybirds | This is useless. |
| 04:17.08 | DrodoEmpire | Because this argument is stupid. |
| 04:17.09 | Vincent20100 | #me agree |
| 04:17.13 | DrodoEmpire | I agree. |
| 04:17.14 | Angrybirds | Can you please discontinue this discussion on #Sporewiki? |
| 04:17.22 | DrodoEmpire | Gladly. |
| 04:17.25 | Angrybirds | If you guys want to continue it, go elsewhere. |
| 04:17.31 | Knight_Alien | What is even going on? |
| 04:17.35 | Vincent20100 | Because you can't admit you are part responsible of the whole thjing Drodo |
| 04:17.44 | Angrybirds | Vicent, that's enough. |
| 04:17.47 | MasterMachine | Religion v/s Not Religion = The Unending F*cking Argument |
| 04:17.47 | Vincent20100 | Always right, never wrong |
| 04:17.51 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry? |
| 04:17.58 | MasterMachine | Now get the f*ck off this f*cking chat -_- |
| 04:18.03 | DrodoEmpire | I never said I wasn't wrong. |
| 04:18.12 | DrodoEmpire | I perfectly admit I was part of this argument |
| 04:18.19 | Knight_Alien | MM the Religion discussion was good. |
| 04:18.21 | MasterMachine | vbjskubhsavhvgjhgscjhdcgfkaffhgf |
| 04:18.22 | Vincent20100 | Good |
| 04:18.23 | Angrybirds | Alright, that's it. SHUT UP, BOTH OF YOU |
| 04:18.30 | DrodoEmpire | If you want to be childish I would highly advise you go elsewhere. |
| 04:18.33 | Vincent20100 | That's all I wanted to hear |
| 04:18.38 | MasterMachine | Ose, can you kick them both or something? |
| 04:18.44 | DrodoEmpire | You didn't have to insult me. |
| 04:18.46 | Vincent20100 | You have both been childish Drodo, let's admit it |
| 04:18.48 | DrodoEmpire | Pardon? |
| 04:18.53 | Vincent20100 | I never insulted you |
| 04:19.05 | MasterMachine | WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 04:19.11 | MasterMachine | explodes again |
| 04:19.19 | Vincent20100 | put a beer in Master's mouth |
| 04:19.20 | DrodoEmpire | "[01:17] <Vincent20100> Always right, never wrong" - I took offence to this. But I'll let it go. |
| 04:19.32 | Vincent20100 | It wasn't an offence |
| 04:19.33 | DrodoEmpire | In the meantime, yes. I lost my patience. |
| 04:19.44 | Vincent20100 | I'm sorry if it sounded like |
| 04:19.57 | DrodoEmpire | Intended or not I took offense to it. Again its water under the bridge. |
| 04:20.25 | Vincent20100 | Take offense to whater you want. Only the intention matter, and it wasn't |
| 04:20.44 | DrodoEmpire | Again I said I forgive you. |
| 04:20.56 | Vincent20100 | I have thing to be forgiven, but not that |
| 04:21.13 | Vincent20100 | I have to be forgiven for arguing, true |
| 04:21.20 | Machine_Exploded | OH MY FUCKING GOD STOP ARGUING YOU FUCKING MORONS |
| 04:21.31 | DrodoEmpire | We aren't |
| 04:21.33 | DrodoEmpire | Shut up. |
| 04:21.50 | DrodoEmpire | We're apologizing; Read the damned chat goddamned |
| 04:21.54 | Vincent20100 | put another beer in Machine's mouth |
| 04:21.54 | DrodoEmpire | *godamnit |
| 04:22.12 | Vincent20100 | give a mountain dew to Drodo |
| 04:22.17 | DrodoEmpire | gud |
| 04:22.18 | Machine_Exploded | You have a funny way of apologizing then... |
| 04:22.28 | Vincent20100 | We are humans Machines... |
| 04:22.30 | Knight_Alien | slaps Drodo and Vincnet. |
| 04:22.30 | MasterMurica | :P |
| 04:22.43 | DrodoEmpire | Its funny how post-argument apologies work |
| 04:22.49 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 04:22.54 | MasterMachine | So |
| 04:22.56 | DrodoEmpire | In the meantime, don't call me a fucking moron. |
| 04:22.57 | DrodoEmpire | Ever. |
| 04:23.00 | MasterMachine | ... |
| 04:23.03 | DrodoEmpire | Understood? |
| 04:23.22 | DrodoEmpire | I don't take insults lightly. |
| 04:23.26 | MasterMachine | I reserve the right to call people what I want, when I want. Others have the right to call me names too. #InternetLaw1 |
| 04:23.28 | Knight_Alien | You hate being called that? |
| 04:23.32 | Vincent20100 | NO MACHINES! |
| 04:23.38 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 04:23.39 | MasterMachine | That said. |
| 04:23.43 | DrodoEmpire | I hate being insulted and I hate when people don't apologise, too. |
| 04:23.50 | MasterMachine | I will attempt to refrain from calling you names. |
| 04:23.54 | Vincent20100 | strapped grey tape around Machine's mouth |
| 04:24.00 | DrodoEmpire | Apologise and be on with it. |
| 04:24.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its simple. |
| 04:24.08 | MasterMachine | But I don't have a good memory so I can't pr,majvsvassass -can't talk so he can't apologize- |
| 04:24.09 | MasterMachine | :P |
| 04:24.15 | MasterMachine | (Sorry though) |
| 04:24.27 | DrodoEmpire | Its okay. |
| 04:24.30 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks. |
| 04:24.37 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry for my gruffness. |
| 04:24.38 | MasterMachine | Seriously thought |
| 04:24.43 | MasterMachine | No promises |
| 04:24.49 | Vincent20100 | Enough for tonight, gotta go read the last book of Games of Thrones |
| 04:24.52 | DrodoEmpire | Now, Vinny, I'm sorry to you too. |
| 04:24.54 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 04:24.56 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 04:24.58 | MasterMachine | I'll probably completely forget this entire conversation by this time tomorrow xD |
| 04:25.00 | Vincent20100 | Same here... |
| 04:25.02 | MasterMachine | Wait |
| 04:25.05 | MasterMachine | The last book came out?! |
| 04:25.07 | DrodoEmpire | Ah good. |
| 04:25.12 | MasterMachine | -runs to the nearest store to buy it- |
| 04:25.16 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 04:25.17 | Vincent20100 | is sorry for arguing a lot lot and lot |
| 04:25.24 | Vincent20100 | Not sure |
| 04:25.25 | DrodoEmpire | Same here mate. |
| 04:25.30 | Vincent20100 | Still waiting too for the last season |
| 04:25.45 | Vincent20100 | Winter is Comming! |
| 04:25.49 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 04:25.52 | Vincent20100 | -Russian Quote |
| 04:25.53 | Knight_Alien | :| |
| 04:25.54 | MasterMachine | Which book are you going to read? |
| 04:26.22 | MasterMachine | Oh never mind |
| 04:26.29 | MasterMachine | New books not out yet |
| 04:26.36 | Vincent20100 | Dance of Dragoon? |
| 04:26.46 | MasterMachine | -meanders back to his mancave- |
| 04:26.56 | Vincent20100 | Sowwy, A dance for Dragons |
| 04:27.12 | MasterMachine | A Dance with Dragons is the 4th book, seires will have 6. |
| 04:27.14 | Knight_Alien | starts to think he is a outcast. |
| 04:27.19 | MasterMachine | Wait |
| 04:27.26 | MasterMachine | 5th book, series will have 7 |
| 04:27.28 | MasterMachine | Sorry KA |
| 04:27.33 | MasterMachine | What? |
| 04:27.39 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (48df64d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.223.100.214) |
| 04:27.42 | Knight_Alien | I read books. |
| 04:27.45 | MasterMachine | wb |
| 04:27.47 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 04:27.49 | MasterMachine | So do I |
| 04:27.51 | MasterMachine | I love bbooks |
| 04:27.53 | Knight_Alien | I am just feeling like a Outcast. |
| 04:27.59 | Vincent20100 | I wish Arya will win |
| 04:28.04 | MasterMachine | Like from the book Outcasts? |
| 04:28.07 | Vincent20100 | Even though I don't think so |
| 04:28.24 | Vincent20100 | Still, bye bye |
| 04:28.27 | MasterMachine | I hope that the walkers win, they're the nicest group so far xD |
| 04:28.41 | MasterMachine | They just turn you into more walkers |
| 04:28.48 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 04:29.39 | DrodoEmpire | points to Defalt |
| 04:29.43 | DrodoEmpire | Who's that guy? |
| 04:29.58 | MasterMachine | no idea |
| 04:30.07 | Knight_Alien | You know he can hear you. |
| 04:30.10 | MasterMachine | But he's obviously a defalt setting :P |
| 04:30.15 | MasterMachine | (yeah, we trollin :P) |
| 04:30.18 | DrodoEmpire | KA: I know] |
| 04:30.21 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 04:30.29 | DrodoEmpire | walks up and poke Defalt |
| 04:30.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hai |
| 04:30.39 | DrodoEmpire | ~poke Defalt |
| 04:30.39 | infobot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Defalt, pokes Defalt repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 04:31.09 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 04:31.11 | Knight_Alien | Looks a Defalt and kciks his leg out of Curiousity. |
| 04:31.30 | Knight_Alien | Hmm.... |
| 04:32.10 | Knight_Alien | He might be a user who read more on the Spore wikia more then I did when I first joined.... |
| 04:32.26 | Knight_Alien | Like Irc..... |
| 04:32.58 | Knight_Alien | puts him in a maze for esting. |
| 04:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | D: |
| 04:33.32 | DrodoEmpire | You killed Defalt! |
| 04:33.35 | DrodoEmpire | NOOOO |
| 04:33.41 | Knight_Alien | I was just testing him. |
| 04:33.53 | Knight_Alien | He ate somthing in my lab. |
| 04:34.09 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 04:34.30 | DrodoEmpire | pulls out his glock, holding it sideways and shoot him up gangsta-style |
| 04:34.36 | DrodoEmpire | *shoots him up |
| 04:34.55 | Knight_Alien | Their was cheese at the end of the maze but he was like NOPE and ate some genetic thing infobot I made. |
| 04:35.02 | DrodoEmpire | THough in all honesty that technique is sill |
| 04:35.04 | Knight_Alien | And I |
| 04:35.06 | DrodoEmpire | *silly |
| 04:35.28 | Knight_Alien | shoots drodo for trying to be a gangster. |
| 04:35.53 | DrodoEmpire | The best way to hold a pistol is as high as possible on the grip and both hands on the grip (not one hand on the base of the grip though, that's silly and useless) |
| 04:36.11 | DrodoEmpire | sends his boyz after KA to do a driveby |
| 04:36.30 | DrodoEmpire | *stupidly loud rap music gives them away* |
| 04:36.38 | Knight_Alien | Knight bombs Drodo for trying to be a rap artist. |
| 04:36.59 | Knight_Alien | That's for trying to be ghetto! |
| 04:37.12 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, fair enough. |
| 04:37.14 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 04:37.25 | Knight_Alien | sits with rich people. |
| 04:37.40 | DrodoEmpire | I'm parts French and Scottish; Those are, like, the whitest people on the planet. |
| 04:38.08 | Knight_Alien | I sometimes deal with ghetto people and when I do I think Nope and I run. |
| 04:38.50 | Knight_Alien | I am German,British,Irish and American I have very ''white'' genes. |
| 04:39.31 | Knight_Alien | I personally try to keep ghetto people out of my life because they make me angery. |
| 04:39.38 | DrodoEmpire | "Angry"? |
| 04:39.45 | DrodoEmpire | You don't like poor people? |
| 04:39.49 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 04:39.57 | Knight_Alien | I am fine with poor people. |
| 04:40.17 | DrodoEmpire | Well the "ghetto" is the less-affluent section of town., |
| 04:40.28 | Knight_Alien | But not fuckin GUNZ BLAZIN RACIST GUYS. |
| 04:40.39 | DrodoEmpire | That's a horrid generalization. |
| 04:40.51 | DrodoEmpire | Disgusting generalization, actually. |
| 04:40.51 | Knight_Alien | Where I live that is the majority. |
| 04:41.05 | DrodoEmpire | Its usually a good idea to stay away from the ghetto, yes |
| 04:41.20 | DrodoEmpire | But to think they're all gangsters and criminals is horrid |
| 04:41.38 | Knight_Alien | I don't wish to think of the ghetto as the Ganster side or even the black side. |
| 04:41.49 | Knight_Alien | But my town mostly has that. |
| 04:42.00 | DrodoEmpire | What town? LA? :P |
| 04:42.06 | Knight_Alien | Peoria. |
| 04:42.12 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 04:42.54 | Knight_Alien | It is in illinois. |
| 04:43.03 | Knight_Alien | The state. |
| 04:43.14 | DrodoEmpire | I know. XD |
| 04:43.36 | DrodoEmpire | We Canadians know a lot more about the States then Americans know about Canada in comparison. |
| 04:43.41 | DrodoEmpire | On average |
| 04:43.45 | Knight_Alien | It is not the worst here but the steretypes you here about are real hear. |
| 04:43.55 | DrodoEmpire | Meh |
| 04:44.10 | DrodoEmpire | The stereotype I usually hear is overweight, rude, religious folk |
| 04:44.14 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 04:44.32 | Knight_Alien | Whites live anywhere mostly near the Hights or Rich people. |
| 04:44.40 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 04:44.45 | Knight_Alien | Hights=Rich people |
| 04:44.53 | Knight_Alien | I live near the Hights. |
| 04:44.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:45.01 | Knight_Alien | I hate cities. |
| 04:45.26 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, I live in a rural area so going to the city's a treat for me |
| 04:45.33 | DrodoEmpire | Even a fairly small one like Halifax |
| 04:45.33 | Knight_Alien | A town in the Country is my dream. |
| 04:45.41 | DrodoEmpire | Its pretty nice |
| 04:46.02 | DrodoEmpire | Most of the town that I live near by, Truro, is really a lot of forest and small urban bits. :P |
| 04:46.06 | Knight_Alien | I go to the country all the time to see my Grandparents. |
| 04:46.19 | DrodoEmpire | Like, whereever there isn't a building, lawn, or lot, there is forest. |
| 04:46.19 | Knight_Alien | So that's my treat. |
| 04:46.27 | DrodoEmpire | Just, Forest |
| 04:46.35 | DrodoEmpire | Everywhere in Nova Scotia. :P |
| 04:46.41 | Knight_Alien | But continuing with stereotypes.... |
| 04:47.10 | Knight_Alien | Mexicans live mostly in the South aka the Ghetto. |
| 04:47.25 | Knight_Alien | Same with African americans. |
| 04:47.45 | Knight_Alien | Europeans live near Hights. |
| 04:48.19 | Knight_Alien | North=Ghetto and South , West=Industrial , East=Hights and such. |
| 04:48.45 | MasterMachine | Sorta like South Philly being ze bad part of town |
| 04:48.54 | MasterMachine | and central Philly being the half decent part |
| 04:49.15 | Knight_Alien | East is very large , North is small , West is large and south is medium |
| 04:49.54 | Knight_Alien | So yea that's my City... |
| 04:50.28 | Knight_Alien | And every town outside of Peoria is awsome no Ghetto crap no Industrial Sh**. |
| 04:50.59 | Knight_Alien | And they are mostly Religous folk out in the Towns. |
| 04:52.13 | Knight_Alien | The City is Religous , Fats , Ignorants ,Richies , Ghettos , Slims and other. |
| 04:52.45 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:52.57 | Knight_Alien | Their is a town outside of my City that is Racist to African american's so Blacks are on edge all of the time. |
| 04:53.02 | DrodoEmpire | Alright! Funny names from my province! |
| 04:53.08 | DrodoEmpire | Stewiacke |
| 04:53.13 | DrodoEmpire | Bible Kill |
| 04:53.15 | DrodoEmpire | *Hill |
| 04:53.19 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 04:53.20 | DrodoEmpire | Canso |
| 04:53.29 | DrodoEmpire | Louisbourg |
| 04:53.42 | DrodoEmpire | Shelurne |
| 04:53.45 | DrodoEmpire | *Shelburne |
| 04:53.46 | Quark8 | night |
| 04:53.53 | Knight_Alien | night. |
| 04:53.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yarmouth |
| 04:53.57 | DrodoEmpire | Night |
| 04:54.07 | DrodoEmpire | Stellarton |
| 04:54.24 | DrodoEmpire | Lunenburg, and Pugwash |
| 04:54.43 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, and Antigonish |
| 04:54.50 | Knight_Alien | Bible kill was funny. |
| 04:54.51 | DrodoEmpire | OH! |
| 04:54.53 | DrodoEmpire | hu |
| 04:54.54 | DrodoEmpire | *hur |
| 04:55.02 | DrodoEmpire | weirdest of all, Tatamagouche. |
| 04:55.06 | DrodoEmpire | Tatamagouche. |
| 04:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | If you can correctly pronounce that you get a cookie |
| 04:55.30 | Knight_Alien | Guy:Welcome to Bible kill my fellow Christian's (They all leave) , CHange our name! |
| 04:55.35 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:56.07 | Knight_Alien | Oh also my town has a very large influence of European Culture. |
| 04:56.16 | Knight_Alien | I mean city. |
| 04:56.53 | Knight_Alien | So Theatre is large and Music groups come and go. |
| 04:57.47 | Knight_Alien | Certain types of people in my city think we souldnt have such larger European influence. |
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| 04:58.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 04:58.11 | Knight_Alien | Their suggestions of a replacement are laughable. |
| 04:58.20 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
| 04:58.21 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
| 04:58.35 | DrodoEmpire | You missed me name off funny town names in Nova Scotia |
| 04:58.42 | DrodoEmpire | Like Tatamagouche |
| 04:58.51 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 04:59.06 | Knight_Alien | AH. |
| 04:59.10 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
| 04:59.24 | DrodoEmpire | Finally pronounce it right? XD |
| 04:59.42 | Knight_Alien | Nova scotia. |
| 04:59.47 | Knight_Alien | There 0u0 |
| 04:59.52 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
| 04:59.54 | Knight_Alien | I mean Their. |
| 05:00.15 | Knight_Alien | Sorry I am tired so my brain is like this word. |
| 05:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 05:00.48 | Knight_Alien | I am not super tired though so don't worry. |
| 05:00.55 | DrodoEmpire | Okay. |
| 05:01.38 | Knight_Alien | Their Replacement though they suggest is Rap. |
| 05:01.57 | Knight_Alien | Most people were like :{ |
| 05:02.23 | Knight_Alien | I think it would make things worse. |
| 05:03.43 | Knight_Alien | Most of the time it influences Gangs and such. |
| 05:03.53 | Knight_Alien | Killing ignorant yhoung people. |
| 05:04.22 | Knight_Alien | Because they are stupid and they follow the horde of ''Pop'' |
| 05:04.37 | Knight_Alien | Pop I mean popularity. |
| 05:05.06 | DrodoEmpire | Don't tell me your one of those cretins that think rap music causes gangs and "corrupts young minds". |
| 05:05.14 | DrodoEmpire | Because it doesn't |
| 05:05.39 | DrodoEmpire | Not anymore then rock-and-roll promotes satinism. |
| 05:05.39 | Knight_Alien | I think it is just stupid. |
| 05:05.46 | DrodoEmpire | Your damn opinion. |
| 05:06.08 | DrodoEmpire | Try listening to some; You've probably only heard the vapid bullshit about guns and weed. |
| 05:06.15 | Knight_Alien | Well the wording they use is just not.... |
| 05:06.19 | DrodoEmpire | Most actually touches on social issues. |
| 05:06.22 | DrodoEmpire | Oooh, wording |
| 05:06.33 | Knight_Alien | They ryhme. |
| 05:06.37 | DrodoEmpire | Semantics is stupid and thinking a point is invalid is stupid. |
| 05:06.40 | DrodoEmpire | So? |
| 05:06.49 | DrodoEmpire | They rhyme to a beat; It takes skill. |
| 05:06.54 | DrodoEmpire | Most songs rhyme too. |
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| 05:06.58 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 05:07.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hi. |
| 05:07.08 | Knight_Alien | Rhymeing is ok it's just what you said the Guns and stuff. |
| 05:07.16 | Knight_Alien | That's all I haer. |
| 05:07.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yes; The vapid bullshit. |
| 05:07.45 | Knight_Alien | That is the only Rap I ever hear and I hate it. |
| 05:07.53 | DrodoEmpire | Once you ook beyond that a ot of rap music discusses actual issues or simply entertains with a dark sense of humour. |
| 05:08.02 | DrodoEmpire | *look, lot |
| 05:08.36 | Knight_Alien | Chirstian Rap is about using rap for good and wording stuff like what you said touching on things. |
| 05:08.59 | DrodoEmpire | I never knew it existed. But its not the only so-called "good" rap. |
| 05:09.04 | DrodoEmpire | :L |
| 05:09.28 | Knight_Alien | Overall I could do without rap. |
| 05:09.51 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, very well; Just don't campaign against it under misguided assumptiong. |
| 05:09.54 | DrodoEmpire | *assumptions |
| 05:10.13 | Knight_Alien | If you want to Rhyme then Rhyme don't use the base structure of Rap. |
| 05:10.25 | DrodoEmpire | ...What? |
| 05:10.27 | Knight_Alien | That's what I mostly think. |
| 05:10.42 | DrodoEmpire | Rapping is rhyming to a beat. That's it. |
| 05:11.12 | DrodoEmpire | So you think rap, an art form, should be done away with? :P |
| 05:11.24 | Knight_Alien | Ya. |
| 05:11.36 | DrodoEmpire | Just asking; Not in defense of rap necessarily (though I like it) |
| 05:11.41 | DrodoEmpire | That's stupid. |
| 05:11.51 | DrodoEmpire | Thinking any art form should just cease to exist. |
| 05:12.04 | DrodoEmpire | Putting it bluntly |
| 05:12.22 | Knight_Alien | Rap mostly Started in the 90's am I correct? |
| 05:12.26 | DrodoEmpire | Eighties.\ |
| 05:12.37 | DrodoEmpire | Why does that matter> |
| 05:12.39 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 05:12.51 | Knight_Alien | Just wanted to remember. |
| 05:13.04 | DrodoEmpire | Mmhm. |
| 05:13.22 | Knight_Alien | What are you thinking? |
| 05:13.31 | DrodoEmpire | So again, you wish that rap, an art form, should cease to exist? |
| 05:13.35 | DrodoEmpire | *would |
| 05:14.05 | Knight_Alien | Would? |
| 05:14.24 | Knight_Alien | Oh. |
| 05:14.36 | Knight_Alien | Well.....I may eventually Cease. |
| 05:14.41 | Knight_Alien | *It* |
| 05:14.46 | DrodoEmpire | I asked if you wanted rap to cease to exist again. :P Its hard to digest; Never heard of someone wanting t get rid of an art form |
| 05:14.52 | DrodoEmpire | *to |
| 05:15.07 | DrodoEmpire | As does everything. :P |
| 05:15.11 | Knight_Alien | Yes I wish it would cease to exist. |
| 05:15.21 | DrodoEmpire | shakes head |
| 05:15.24 | DrodoEmpire | ...Kay |
| 05:16.27 | Knight_Alien | Are you disappointed? |
| 05:16.38 | DrodoEmpire | No, just surprised. |
| 05:16.48 | DrodoEmpire | I neever heard of someone wanting an art form to just begone |
| 05:16.51 | DrodoEmpire | To die |
| 05:16.54 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 05:17.09 | DrodoEmpire | So its a bit jarring to hear it about any art form really |
| 05:17.29 | Knight_Alien | I have many reasons why I wish for it to wither away. |
| 05:17.38 | DrodoEmpire | Those are? |
| 05:17.45 | Knight_Alien | -_- |
| 05:17.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its a simple question, sheesh |
| 05:17.59 | Knight_Alien | I knew you would ask . |
| 05:18.08 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry I'm interested. |
| 05:18.10 | Knight_Alien | I will try to remember. |
| 05:18.57 | Knight_Alien | Hmm.... |
| 05:20.00 | Knight_Alien | That Vapid Bullshit I wish never existed it is a Piece of sh** that was born from a fuc**** worthless piece of trash at the bottom of Civilization. |
| 05:20.16 | Knight_Alien | It is a big reason. |
| 05:20.32 | Knight_Alien | But the Rest of rap I also have reasons. |
| 05:21.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but judging an art form from its worst examples is ridiculous. That argument is invalid. |
| 05:21.14 | DrodoEmpire | And those are? |
| 05:21.49 | Knight_Alien | I personally see no reason in Christain rap being alive. |
| 05:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | Probably because there's few if any examples. :P |
| 05:22.16 | Knight_Alien | I dislike it and is not respectful to the Church and the God they worship. |
| 05:22.24 | DrodoEmpire | How? |
| 05:22.33 | Knight_Alien | >:} |
| 05:22.42 | Knight_Alien | How....you ask. |
| 05:22.48 | DrodoEmpire | Because it possesses a view slightly contrary to yours? |
| 05:22.54 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 05:22.55 | Knight_Alien | No. |
| 05:24.04 | Knight_Alien | Catholics Hate it Lutherans hate it if the other Branchs in the Church. |
| 05:24.14 | Knight_Alien | Dislike it why keep it. |
| 05:24.47 | DrodoEmpire | Eh heh... |
| 05:24.55 | DrodoEmpire | Well that's enough of this subject for today. :P |
| 05:25.19 | Knight_Alien | It is said to draw yhoung people to the Church and I hate that they have to use somthing form out of Church to use it. |
| 05:25.39 | Zillafire101 | Bye guys |
| 05:25.55 | DrodoEmpire | So you hate how they make your religion desirable by young people, thus keeping it alive for another generation? |
| 05:26.09 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 05:26.13 | Knight_Alien | No. |
| 05:26.34 | DrodoEmpire | "It is said to draw yhoung people to the Church" - fine in my books. |
| 05:26.41 | DrodoEmpire | If I where christian, that is |
| 05:26.48 | DrodoEmpire | Because it means new converts |
| 05:27.04 | Knight_Alien | I am fine with Yhounger people in the Church but they must be introduced to the CHURCH. |
| 05:27.26 | Knight_Alien | The Way most Churchs do it. |
| 05:27.28 | DrodoEmpire | "I hate that they have to use somthing form out of Church to use it." - Well fact is that Churches aren't what the kids consider "cool" |
| 05:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | So I say you need all the help you got. :P |
| 05:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | *you can get |
| 05:29.05 | Knight_Alien | That is another thing Kids think Church is boring it is because they are uninformed because their Parents are lazy as F*** and they think it is easier to buy their kids a Iphone to stare at then actually do somthing. |
| 05:30.01 | DrodoEmpire | You think parents are lazy to not bring them to church? |
| 05:30.21 | DrodoEmpire | Phones are also pretty handy to have, especially when you go somewhere |
| 05:30.44 | Knight_Alien | No some parents are lazy. |
| 05:31.00 | DrodoEmpire | As for staring at them and doing nothing? Can't seriously argue there... |
| 05:31.02 | Knight_Alien | Some don't give a F***. |
| 05:31.09 | DrodoEmpire | Again, for not bringing them to church?> |
| 05:31.17 | Knight_Alien | No. |
| 05:31.27 | DrodoEmpire | Then why? |
| 05:32.21 | Knight_Alien | Some of the Parents of the Children right noware racist hurt , F*** lazy people (Rember not all) |
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| 05:32.55 | Knight_Alien | Who teach their kids Wrong and so their Kids end up as Abominations. |
| 05:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | "Teach them wrong"? There's plenty of ways to skin a cat. |
| 05:33.28 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 05:34.22 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, this is getting stupid. |
| 05:34.34 | Knight_Alien | Well just overall wrong. |
| 05:34.49 | Knight_Alien | Uninforming and such. |
| 05:35.17 | Knight_Alien | That is all |
| 05:35.25 | Knight_Alien | :[ |
| 05:39.27 | Knight_Alien | Other than that I am tired and may go to sleep in a seocund. |
| 05:40.41 | DrodoEmpire | Same |
| 05:41.12 | Knight_Alien | Well good night , the Discussion's that await us tomarrow. |
| 05:41.22 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. |
| 05:46.38 | DrodoEmpire | So as it turns out the MG 42 is basically in use. |
| 05:46.46 | DrodoEmpire | Still today |
| 05:47.16 | DrodoEmpire | In the variants the MG 72 and MG3, fairly interesting and attests to its effectiveness |
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| 06:07.04 | OfficerJackal | back. :/ |
| 06:07.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 06:51.33 | Angrybirds | test |
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| 07:19.48 | ImpyDroid | Wow, wow, wow, wow |
| 07:19.57 | ImpyDroid | Wow, wow, wow |
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| 07:36.25 | ImpyDroid | I am on a student initiation ceremony right now |
| 07:36.33 | ImpyDroid | And God is it magnificent |
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| 07:50.03 | drom | I had a terrible dream about sporewiki's channel. |
| 07:51.52 | Angrybirds | What happened? o.O |
| 07:52.47 | drom | It being an admin dystopia, shitstorming every minute. |
| 07:53.52 | Liquid_Ink | "dream" |
| 07:54.00 | Liquid_Ink | You mean, "experience" of course. |
| 07:54.24 | drom | Well. No. |
| 07:54.36 | ImpyDroid | Hur |
| 07:54.37 | drom | I just awoke. |
| 07:57.00 | Angrybirds | I often wish the TIAF's name wasn't so darn long. xD |
| 07:57.08 | Angrybirds | It just doesn't fit where you want it to. |
| 07:57.30 | Angrybirds | Then again... |
| 07:57.38 | Angrybirds | I've made fictions before with absurdly long names. |
| 07:57.43 | Angrybirds | Like, "Holy Knights of the Source and of the Twin Cities of Aderon and Endura of Everwinter" |
| 07:57.50 | drom | hur |
| 07:58.04 | Angrybirds | I had fun with that one. |
| 07:58.21 | ImpyDroid | G.G. Martin would be proud |
| 07:58.33 | Angrybirds | Or, better, "The Great, the Glorious, the Ass-kicking Sovereignty of Dickbutt" |
| 07:58.48 | ImpyDroid | *G. R. R. Martin |
| 07:59.14 | drom | "no re" - G.G. Martin |
| 08:00.42 | Angrybirds | [[Fiction:Scramble for Mirus Map.png]] |
| 08:00.49 | Angrybirds | Infobot... |
| 08:01.00 | Angrybirds | Are you really going to leave me hangin'? |
| 08:01.09 | Liquid_Ink | [[File:Scramble for Mirus Map.png]] |
| 08:01.15 | drom | Well. |
| 08:01.17 | Angrybirds | Damnit, why must I do everything myself? |
| 08:01.22 | Liquid_Ink | Yep. |
| 08:01.23 | drom | Only morgothBotPy does that |
| 08:01.30 | Angrybirds | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Scramble_for_Mirus_Map.png |
| 08:01.31 | drom | And it's dead. |
| 08:02.09 | drom | My does my left eye always twitch when I don't wear glasses? |
| 08:02.36 | Angrybirds | See how I had to go to the next line with the TIAF label? D: |
| 08:02.55 | Angrybirds | Also, the associated fiction: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Scramble_for_Mirus :D |
| 08:05.38 | drom | Malmö (big city in Scania, Southern Sweden) is now flooded. |
| 08:05.55 | drom | And this one of the viaducts. http://d2.dn-static.se/UploadedImages/2014/8/31/2952dcb1-78cf-4db2-870a-bb270662e896/original.jpg |
| 08:06.54 | drom | According to the news, the rain flooded with 2 cm each hour. |
| 08:20.23 | Liquid_Ink | http://objectiveministries.org/creation/octopus_origins_chart.png Such disregard for actual evolutionary theory |
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| 08:20.37 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 08:21.22 | ImpyDroid | "Notopus" |
| 08:21.23 | ImpyDroid | Hur |
| 08:21.26 | ImpyDroid | Hi Ghel |
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| 10:07.49 | Liquid_Ink | Hello! |
| 10:07.52 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
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| 10:10.14 | Coston | Hi |
| 10:10.33 | drom | guten tag |
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| 10:11.00 | Liquid_Ink | https://38.media.tumblr.com/0d3c2ce38198816e35962eff477d9282/tumblr_nausjzY3oq1qfoj4do1_250.gif Lorde is trying desperately to replicate human emotion so her cover won't be blown. |
| 10:11.26 | Xho | Liquid_Ink: That is the most awkward thing I have ever seen |
| 10:11.39 | Liquid_Ink | Really? |
| 10:12.01 | Xho | Definitely in the Top 5 |
| 10:14.22 | AdmiralPanda | European soldiers in X-COM occasionally shout KURWA! when they throw grenades/fire rockets |
| 10:16.05 | Ghel | Hello. |
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| 10:31.15 | Liquid_Ink | AndroImpy? |
| 10:54.07 | drom | Android |
| 10:54.41 | drom | Simple as that. |
| 10:59.05 | AndroImpy | Liquid_Ink: Hm? |
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| 12:26.48 | Xho_Away | Back |
| 12:27.31 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 12:27.51 | Xho | u |
| 12:32.34 | Xho | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=307776251 Pretty much my experience of chatting to TF2 players online |
| 12:38.13 | Technobliterator | how can someone not see the rename button |
| 12:38.14 | Technobliterator | ._. |
| 12:39.01 | Xho | You tell me hur |
| 12:40.42 | OluapPlayer | I can |
| 12:41.58 | Xho | tell me den |
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| 12:42.47 | Vincent20100 | open a bottle of vodka. |
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| 12:45.44 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 12:45.46 | OluapPlayer | omg hai |
| 12:45.50 | Vincent20100 | Vodka is life! |
| 12:45.59 | Vincent20100 | Hai Hachi |
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| 13:02.16 | drom | Heyo |
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| 13:03.19 | Monet_ | Hello I'm back. |
| 13:03.31 | drom | Hello! |
| 13:04.49 | AdmiralPanda | Hai Hachi, Monet |
| 13:05.05 | Hachiman | hAI |
| 13:05.06 | Hachiman | Woops |
| 13:05.07 | Hachiman | Hai |
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| 13:08.54 | Technobliterator | family birthday, bbl |
| 13:09.04 | Monet_ | While I was away I kept myself largely in the dark about goings on, have I missed anything recent? |
| 13:10.48 | drom | Brainstorming a new community-wide collab |
| 13:11.07 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188936 |
| 13:11.22 | drom | God fucking ninja |
| 13:11.35 | Monet_ | lol |
| 13:12.41 | Monet_ | Hmm...this is an interesting thought. It compels me to want to know what 4D life is like. |
| 13:13.56 | Monet_ | Although reading up, a 4D being's view of a 3D object is comparable to us looking at a 2D object and comparing what we see to a 2D being. |
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| 13:14.42 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 13:15.29 | Monet_ | I read somewhere that a 4D being could theoretically be capable of seeing all six faces of a 3D cube |
| 13:15.45 | Monet_ | At once. |
| 13:19.03 | Monet_ | One thing I do question about hyperspace weaponry being used within hyperspace: Where do the associated rifts lead? |
| 13:19.38 | Monet_ | Unless maybe hyperspace exists in "layers" and you simply open a wormhole or something ot those deeper layers |
| 13:20.41 | Hachiman | Perhaps |
| 13:21.59 | Monet_ | Although for the TIAF and Mars I an see why hyperspace aliens might be angry at the hyperlanes |
| 13:22.52 | Monet_ | Since iirc their method of construction involves blasting out pockets of hypermatter-clear space, or something li that. |
| 13:23.14 | Monet_ | Wait Mars? I mean France |
| 13:25.45 | drom | Hyperspace is simply a parallell universe? |
| 13:26.05 | drom | I mean, dimesion. Not universe. |
| 13:26.10 | Hachiman | A much smaller neighbouring universe from my knowledge |
| 13:26.38 | Monet_ | I'm trying to think how ot best describe the whole 4D thing since M theory |
| 13:27.02 | drom | The 4th dimesion. |
| 13:27.04 | Monet_ | States that quantum strongs exist in all 11 dimensinos at once or something. |
| 13:27.31 | Monet_ | So a dimension is more a layer of a percievable reality than an actual universe proper |
| 13:27.48 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831132125/spore/images/6/65/Cairaov%C3%A9n.png dafuq is dis |
| 13:28.02 | OluapPlayer | A deemun |
| 13:28.38 | drom | demn red veins |
| 13:30.08 | drom | Universe = Theorized to be a seperate blob of superclusters and galaxies. |
| 13:30.43 | drom | Dimesion = A prexisting copy of an universe, but with "different rules of physics" |
| 13:30.45 | drom | Rite? |
| 13:31.03 | Hachiman | No not really |
| 13:31.13 | Hachiman | Different universes can have different physics to each other |
| 13:31.32 | Hachiman | Some universes probably have physics so different that stars and galaxies can't form |
| 13:31.53 | drom | I see. |
| 13:31.55 | Xho | It's all a bit too complex so let's just call it a BLT Sandwich |
| 13:32.29 | drom | A daily dose of science is refreshing for your brain. |
| 13:32.48 | Xho | Said Xho never |
| 13:33.31 | Hachiman | I remember there was one story in the Xeelee Sequence where humans had been transported to a universe with a different overall level of gravity, meaning that you would get planetforms consisting of corpses and junk and such |
| 13:33.35 | Monet_ | A universe is a distinct blob with defined physics yeah, whiel a dimension is a layer of percevable space. For instance we humans are 3D beings but with the right augmentation we may be able to percieve the 4th dimension of our universe and above. |
| 13:33.44 | AdmiralPanda | If Xho was a Shadowlands Vampire, he could strut out in the sun all day long, but science would burn him body and soul |
| 13:34.35 | drom | I have heard that there's silencers for tanks. http://i.imgur.com/FDujyOE.jpg |
| 13:34.46 | AdmiralPanda | (Shadowlands is a setting where vampires have specific and very personal weaknesses, practically nobody shares a weakness) |
| 13:35.50 | Monet_ | I remember an episode of Stargate where an Ancient device throws Samantha Carter and Jack O'Neil into a higher dimension. Unfortunately no one in the base could see or hear them and they could pass though people without the peopel realising at all. |
| 13:36.50 | Monet_ | It was a lot like Ghost only the only thing they could interact with was the very device that therew them into that higher dimension. |
| 13:46.50 | drom | I have anyway written a non-canonial story. A technologically advanced, but single-planet, civilization struggle to warn to other alien civilzations before an inter-dimesional/outsider race destroys them. I have been juggling between dimesional and universal |
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| 13:48.30 | drom | The ending is planned to end with the only suriviors fullfilling their objective with an improvised solution and then wiped of existence. |
| 13:49.12 | Monet_ | Universe then. |
| 13:50.39 | Ecoraptor | Just checked out the Scramble of Mirus again and let me tell you this: The Mirusian natives won't be happy with it. |
| 13:51.02 | Ecoraptor | They will it percieve simmilarly to the Scramble of Africa |
| 13:51.19 | Monet_ | That makes perfect sense. |
| 13:51.51 | Ecoraptor | And will possible even try to force the Xonexi Allies out (At least, that's hat I can see the Zarbanoans doing) |
| 13:51.59 | Ecoraptor | "Protect the Motherland! |
| 13:52.12 | Monet_ | In that case then, wors-case scenario I guess is that Mirus becomes a nightmare land of poverty, disease and civil war. |
| 13:52.40 | Ecoraptor | FKinda like Ottzello once was |
| 13:53.53 | Monet_ | A bit yeah |
| 13:54.06 | drom | Polish hosptial food. http://i.imgur.com/flrqz09.jpg |
| 13:54.10 | Ecoraptor | But yeah, indeed. The Waps and the Imperium of War did try to claim the most upper part of the TyrannyTerriorories that are now owned by the Draconid and the TIAF respecyively |
| 13:54.53 | Ecoraptor | Only the upper half of it, but still |
| 13:55.20 | Ecoraptor | that will give the Waps enough reson to side with the DCP in the Xonaxi conflict |
| 13:55.54 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "Enemies - Kithworto" |
| 13:55.59 | Xho | Kithworto - excuse me bitch |
| 13:56.11 | OluapPlayer | She'll appear in the Fog War |
| 13:56.20 | OluapPlayer | So the whole Fog War team is on her enemy list |
| 13:58.15 | drom | Here's the non-canonial story. Incase you guys are curious. Feedback is appericated. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/NonCanon/01 |
| 13:59.40 | Ecoraptor | Well I would like to see a struggle for siad upper TyrannyTerritories to happen eventually. |
| 14:00.54 | Ecoraptor | The Mirusians have sheer diversity on their side, so the Xonexi will never know who is going to attack them. That way they can't adapt their tactics that well, and the Mirusians would have a chance of winning. |
| 14:01.36 | Ecoraptor | Though "winning" would not really be the best term, rather, getting the territory they want and then being forced to sign a peace treaty. |
| 14:02.13 | Monet_ | True, but the Allies still have a technological edge don't they? |
| 14:06.40 | Ecoraptor | When the Mirusians don't work together, definitely. However, the UAE already trade technology between it's member states, so they are pretty advenced. If they then start to exange technology between them and the Imperium of War/Zarbania Powers, they could pack quite a punch. |
| 14:07.32 | drom | Urgh, I'm bored. |
| 14:07.41 | Ecoraptor | Of course, the Xonexi have more colonies in other galaxies, and are far larger than the Mirusians, meaning they have more recources. |
| 14:07.51 | Monet_ | Ecoraptor: Its an interesting conundrum actually. |
| 14:08.21 | Monet_ | Both sides do a lot of tech sharing so large-scale armed ocnflict...probably not the best outcome ever for either side. |
| 14:08.31 | Monet_ | Mirusians also have the home turf advantage |
| 14:12.04 | Ecoraptor | Definitely true. I'd say it will be pretty even, and eventually a stalemate will be archieved. |
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| 14:13.28 | Ecoraptor | All the more becuase if the Xonexi start to massacre various Mirusian nations to collapse, that will turn the public opinion against them. |
| 14:14.30 | Ecoraptor | Now most of the Gigaqudrant actually supports them, but if the Xonexi dare to do that (wich they could of course), that won't do both sides very good. |
| 14:15.11 | Monet_ | Depends on who is deemed the aggressor |
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| 14:18.14 | TekDroid | Hello |
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| 14:22.32 | Ecoraptor | Definitely true. One can say the aggressor would be the Mirusians because they are most likely to attack first, though one can also say it would be the Xonexi because they did a massive and unprovoked power grab into the galaxy, therefore disregarding the sovereignity of the Mirusian themselves |
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| 14:24.14 | Monet_ | These days the angle of a war can be strongly swayed by how the events are portrayed thanks ot an all-encompassing international media |
| 14:30.17 | Ecoraptor | Yep, and furthermore, you can't call either side evil nor good. It's exactly the grey-vs-grey morality the Gigaqurantic Conflicts intended. |
| 14:30.35 | Ecoraptor | Though that makes it all the more interesting, isn't it? |
| 14:30.43 | Monet_ | Absolutely true! |
| 14:32.08 | Monet_ | In fact what we may be talking here is a cold war between three factions of galactic heroes. |
| 14:38.01 | Ecoraptor | Definitely. So...is it a go so far? Regardless, we still need to discuss this with the other Xonexians/UAErs though. |
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| 14:40.06 | ImpyDroid | I met a few foreign exchange students from my uni today |
| 14:40.11 | ImpyDroid | God it was fun |
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| 14:49.42 | Wizerde6 | hi everybody |
| 15:03.55 | Monet_ | That was fast |
| 15:04.18 | Vincent20100 | Back! |
| 15:04.38 | Vincent20100 | Monet_: That's what she said. ^^ |
| 15:09.42 | Monet_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:189056 I might be pedantic in considering this |
| 15:10.25 | Monet_ | It just bugs me a little how we in the modern-day seem ot have a much more solid map of the galaxy than the Federation. |
| 15:12.03 | Monet_ | And we're able to determine the size, orbit and potentially the atmospheric makeup of exoplanets from here on Earth. |
| 15:12.09 | Monet_ | We gotta move with the times maan |
| 15:13.48 | ImpyDroid | The Japanese students were particularily fun, they made origami out of napkins :3 |
| 15:15.17 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
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| 15:19.36 | Vincent20100 | You're a wizard harry! |
| 15:29.23 | Tek0516 | So I'm currently moving into university. |
| 15:30.46 | Monet_ | Nice. |
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| 15:42.53 | Festival_worm | Hi |
| 15:43.06 | Festival_worm | I hasve spent most of this summer at music festivals hur |
| 15:43.11 | Technobliterator | festival? :o |
| 15:43.19 | Festival_worm | Don't worry, I'm not drunk. Was yersterday |
| 15:44.03 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 15:44.29 | Festival_worm | Yeah, it was space rock, ska, that kind of thing, lots of krusties and old hippies. By nightime, the bar had been drunk dry. And there were loads of tripped out people |
| 15:44.54 | Festival_worm | It was like an old festival, people were smoking indoors, no crappy police presence |
| 15:45.04 | Festival_worm | music into early morning, etc |
| 15:45.20 | Festival_worm | Even the staff were off their face hur |
| 15:46.40 | Festival_worm | I aslso met an old friend out of the blue |
| 15:48.12 | Festival_worm | Technobliterator Hidria Spacefolk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfG-tMzyoE |
| 15:48.27 | Technobliterator | has a listen |
| 15:48.48 | Festival_worm | http://offthetracks.co.uk/index.php/summer |
| 15:48.58 | Technobliterator | o.o |
| 15:49.00 | Technobliterator | wow |
| 15:49.02 | Technobliterator | that intro |
| 15:50.52 | Festival_worm | funny subculture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusties |
| 15:53.13 | Festival_worm | You know, I liked the music at Download but I find these smaller trippier festivals more fun |
| 15:53.24 | Festival_worm | There is a better atmosphere |
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| 15:55.12 | Vincent20100 | Festival Worm?! |
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| 15:58.41 | Festival_worm | I want to see Hawkwind next |
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| 16:00.31 | Festival_worm | A wizard kept sending people on quests |
| 16:00.39 | Vincent20100 | lol |
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| 16:05.59 | drom | A screaming child is sitting infront of me |
| 16:06.04 | drom | Fuck this already. |
| 16:06.25 | Festival_worm | Damn |
| 16:06.56 | Hachiman | Silence it |
| 16:07.15 | Festival_worm | lol http://www.efestivals.co.uk/photos/offthetracks/2013-late/AroundTheSite-OzricTentacles-OffTheTracksSummer2013-PB05.JPG |
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| 16:09.02 | drom | I think female children are the worst out the bunch. |
| 16:10.10 | Festival_worm | :/ |
| 16:10.21 | Festival_worm | I got nominated for the Ice Bucket Challenge |
| 16:10.38 | Festival_worm | I thought I was going to get away with it since I know hardly anyone |
| 16:11.02 | Vincent20100 | lol |
| 16:11.06 | Vincent20100 | I already did it |
| 16:11.09 | Vincent20100 | At my job |
| 16:11.33 | Vincent20100 | I nominated my Chief and my patron's younger son. |
| 16:11.37 | Festival_worm | Good thing I've been at a festival and its over 24 hours |
| 16:11.41 | Vincent20100 | *boss |
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| 16:12.10 | Hachiman | I nominated my girlfriend to do it |
| 16:12.11 | Hachiman | is a bad boyfriend |
| 16:12.21 | Quark8 | Hello |
| 16:12.36 | Festival_worm | Good thing my freezer is too small for a bag of ice |
| 16:12.53 | drom | I gladly never got nominated for the challenge. Because my friends are superb and I no longer use Facebook anymore. |
| 16:13.05 | drom | Facebook is shit. |
| 16:13.12 | Vincent20100 | Flumzy you! |
| 16:13.28 | drom | Filled with thousands of ads of mobile f2p games and slutty duckfaces. |
| 16:13.35 | Festival_worm | I don't see why I have to do it. I hate being told to do anything. |
| 16:13.37 | drom | Fuck FB |
| 16:13.39 | drom | forever |
| 16:13.47 | Festival_worm | Facefuck |
| 16:14.02 | drom | I'm gonna get Twitter instead. |
| 16:14.20 | Festival_worm | Twitter twatter is just as annoying |
| 16:14.30 | Hachiman | Facefuck |
| 16:14.34 | Hachiman | Sounds like a death metal band song |
| 16:14.43 | Festival_worm | People posting dumb stuff everywhere |
| 16:14.48 | Vincent20100 | Sounds like a sexual position too |
| 16:14.48 | Festival_worm | aye |
| 16:15.01 | Jepardi | http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZLXvX_460sa_v1.gif |
| 16:15.34 | Vincent20100 | ¸Putin is awesome... |
| 16:15.41 | Hachiman | ohgod Putin |
| 16:16.18 | Festival_worm | Apparentely, whjat I heard, NATO's images were from a video game |
| 16:16.33 | Festival_worm | And the cockpit of that downed plane has bullet holes in it |
| 16:16.40 | Jepardi | http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/ad6poAQ_460s.jpg |
| 16:17.14 | Vincent20100 | lol |
| 16:17.22 | Vincent20100 | Why am I not surprised... |
| 16:17.22 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/s526x395/10384805_376149612532376_1903465029338027424_n.png |
| 16:20.50 | Festival_worm | There has also been anti-NATO protests in the UK and Wales, from people right across Europe. Funny there hasn't been a mention on BBC, but other channels like RT and Aljazeera |
| 16:21.14 | Festival_worm | And farmers complaining of huge losses thanks to the sanctions |
| 16:21.20 | Vincent20100 | It's sad to say, but I wish Putin succed. |
| 16:21.32 | Vincent20100 | Somebody need to crush the West's arrogance. |
| 16:22.17 | Festival_worm | I don't know, I'm not on Russia's side but they are playing a clever game. And America is getting the laughs out of it. Europe destabilises in the process. And I'm disturbed by the sheer lack of criticism in the Media over what Ukraine is doing |
| 16:22.35 | Festival_worm | Its probably due to the big shale gas reserves in Ukreaine |
| 16:22.47 | Vincent20100 | Still |
| 16:22.56 | Vincent20100 | Somebody will have to put us back in our places |
| 16:23.56 | Wormy | I'm probably being monitored now for expressing my views on the internet |
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| 16:24.30 | Vincent20100 | So am I. ^^ |
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| 16:25.28 | Wormy | Tbh, I think the majority aren't buying the media anymore. People have become more cynical of it. |
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| 16:25.59 | Wormy | Its too easy to access foreign media |
| 16:26.16 | drom | compared to chavland, this country's coverage is so terrible |
| 16:26.26 | drom | ~seen Sporeraptor |
| 16:26.31 | infobot | sporeraptor <54392a8d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.57.42.141> was last seen on IRC in channel #cyrannus, 2d 19h 20m 1s ago, saying: 'Good'. |
| 16:26.33 | Wormy | Chavland? |
| 16:26.41 | Wormy | ucallinmeachav |
| 16:27.21 | Monet_ | These days peope are increasingly looking more to foreign media for news. |
| 16:27.40 | drom | I dont't. |
| 16:27.41 | Hachiman | Because England's a boring shithole |
| 16:27.55 | Wormy | BBC's coverage of events in UK is bad enough |
| 16:28.12 | drom | Aye. England's a shithole full of chavs and bald drunks. |
| 16:28.15 | Wormy | I only heard of the protests from RT |
| 16:29.15 | Wormy | I dunno, I had a pretty good time at that crusty festival |
| 16:29.22 | Wormy | no chavs there |
| 16:30.02 | drom | how about those little shits? |
| 16:31.21 | Monet_ | You make Britai nsound unredeemable? |
| 16:32.09 | Hachiman | It's quite unredeemable |
| 16:32.15 | Wormy | I quite the culture/s, history and landscapes here |
| 16:32.21 | drom | By "little shits", I mean those mindless kids. |
| 16:32.25 | Wormy | Where I live I can escape chavs |
| 16:32.33 | drom | World-wide. |
| 16:33.00 | Monet_ | SOme places in England are decent |
| 16:33.11 | Monet_ | I was relatively rtouble-free in Canterbury. |
| 16:33.25 | Wormy | Most of the rural and township areas are okay |
| 16:33.49 | Wormy | Its the cities and council estates and shitty seaside resorts where chavs live |
| 16:33.58 | Hachiman | Wormy: http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/library/Ramjet/01_en.htm You might quite like this |
| 16:34.02 | Ecoraptor | Chavs just tend to be more noticable than those Enlishmen who are not tatooaged, bald, loud ect. |
| 16:34.32 | drom | Like London? |
| 16:34.39 | Wormy | Looks like something interesting you've dug up |
| 16:34.41 | Hachiman | There's a table of contents at the bottom so you can navigate the chapters |
| 16:35.45 | Wormy | Reminds me of Star Maker and Last and First Men |
| 16:36.10 | Wormy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_and_First_Men#Human_species |
| 16:36.48 | drom | Hachiman: Demn that got my alien-senses tingling. |
| 16:39.59 | Wormy | Hachi: Reading while listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfG-tMzyoE |
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| 16:54.00 | drom | ~test |
| 16:54.00 | infobot | somebody said test was not funny |
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| 17:06.46 | Knight_Alien | Hi |
| 17:09.28 | Vincent20100 | HEy |
| 17:11.55 | Monet_ | Wait...The Tahar Collective Commander uses Dream Energy? |
| 17:12.46 | Monet_ | I know he's positive for Essence but I always thought he used EE |
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| 17:14.19 | drom | <rants about the mobile coverage> |
| 17:14.22 | Imperios | Hiya |
| 17:16.31 | Hachiman | Hai Imp |
| 17:17.39 | drom | hai |
| 17:18.16 | Vincent20100 | What is the code to end a line when editing? |
| 17:19.19 | drom | What kind of line? |
| 17:19.39 | Vincent20100 | Something like <br> |
| 17:19.40 | drom | If you want a space, use <br/> |
| 17:19.48 | Vincent20100 | Thanks |
| 17:20.25 | drom | It doesn't matter if it's <br> or < br/> or <br /> or <br></br>. It's always the same thing. |
| 17:22.35 | Vincent20100 | tried </br> and it didn't worked |
| 17:22.50 | drom | </br> is the closing tag for <br> |
| 17:23.01 | drom | Because it's a HTML markup you are using. |
| 17:23.35 | Vincent20100 | ok |
| 17:23.42 | drom | I recommend to use <br>. Since it's the shortest out the bunch. |
| 17:23.56 | Vincent20100 | yah |
| 17:24.53 | drom | Holy fuck. |
| 17:25.25 | Knight_Alien | What is it drom? |
| 17:25.33 | drom | A small town outside my homecity has reported having two IS flags on a bridge. |
| 17:25.56 | drom | IS, in Sweden. |
| 17:26.02 | drom | Fuck those snackbars man. |
| 17:26.47 | Vincent20100 | IS? |
| 17:27.16 | Vincent20100 | Ice Sword? |
| 17:27.27 | drom | No. ISIS |
| 17:27.36 | drom | The terror group fighting in Syria and Iraq |
| 17:27.45 | Vincent20100 | The egyptian goddess? |
| 17:27.48 | Vincent20100 | Ho... |
| 17:27.51 | Knight_Alien | XD |
| 17:28.03 | Knight_Alien | Well Dorm.....good luck! |
| 17:28.53 | Monet_ | Drom: Yeah that is really bad. |
| 17:28.54 | Vincent20100 | You know what we should do guys |
| 17:29.02 | Knight_Alien | Also that town well problably see military troops their in a day. |
| 17:29.02 | Vincent20100 | Re-do completly the Milky Way map |
| 17:29.27 | Knight_Alien | So Drom guns may be heard tomarrow. |
| 17:29.50 | Vincent20100 | Guys... Help me plz... |
| 17:29.58 | Knight_Alien | With Map? |
| 17:30.09 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Cartography |
| 17:30.16 | Vincent20100 | My maps looks all fucked up |
| 17:30.30 | drom | Knight_Alien, probably I wont. Because I'm on a train on way to my high school city. |
| 17:31.10 | Knight_Alien | That is good. |
| 17:31.38 | Vincent20100 | Nah |
| 17:31.40 | Knight_Alien | Vincnt what is wrong with it. |
| 17:31.43 | Vincent20100 | THe lay out is garbade |
| 17:32.04 | Vincent20100 | THe titles like Provinces divisons is all the way to the right |
| 17:32.19 | drom | My parents are safe in a countryside. |
| 17:32.22 | Knight_Alien | Hmm..... |
| 17:32.46 | Vincent20100 | The species section is all pushed to the right |
| 17:32.55 | drom | But my sisters live in my homecity. But I don't want to panic. Because it means that ISIS's terror campagin is closer to succes. |
| 17:34.24 | Monet_ | Their main aim is to frighten. THa's what terrorists do. |
| 17:34.35 | Knight_Alien | I am not very good with this stuff becuas eit has never happened to me. |
| 17:34.49 | Knight_Alien | But Vincnet it is best to reorganize it. |
| 17:34.55 | Vincent20100 | Yah |
| 17:35.04 | Vincent20100 | Pictures are acting wierd on the wiki |
| 17:35.34 | Knight_Alien | My Pictures are fine. |
| 17:35.53 | Vincent20100 | Not the pictures themselves, but the way they are placed inside the text. |
| 17:37.16 | Knight_Alien | For some reason I picture the Algolurn as having a Combine theme. |
| 17:37.23 | Knight_Alien | The COmbine from Hl2. |
| 17:38.11 | Knight_Alien | This song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT0uR5wB76M |
| 17:38.22 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (5604212f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.4.33.47) |
| 17:39.22 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 17:39.39 | Vincent20100 | NAh, they already have a nationnal anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=798HhYw1TQs |
| 17:39.46 | Xho | Hello |
| 17:39.54 | Xho | I kinda left without warning since I went to see a film |
| 17:40.38 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 17:40.51 | Monet_ | What film did you see? |
| 17:42.33 | Xho | Lucy |
| 17:42.51 | Xho | Cue everyone groaning because of the scientific fallacies |
| 17:43.26 | Vincent20100 | There, now it look half goof |
| 17:43.26 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#Cartography |
| 17:43.59 | Hachiman | I like to think of Lucy as a more metaphorical/philosophical movie than a scientific one |
| 17:44.23 | Xho | Yeah it pretty much is |
| 17:44.36 | Vincent20100 | I personnally prefer to see it as a action movie |
| 17:47.55 | Xho | Makes me wonder what kind of things higher entities in the Fiction Universe observe normally |
| 17:48.44 | drom | http://media.cagle.com/78/2014/03/07/145396_600.jpg |
| 17:49.21 | Hachiman | Hachi fapping I imagine |
| 17:49.49 | Monet_ | Yeah probably. |
| 17:50.01 | Xho | Kithworto - enough of dis crapsack universe im outta here |
| 17:50.20 | Imperios | drom: Heh |
| 17:50.36 | Xho | Or equally Kinmo - enough of dis crapsack universe im outta here |
| 17:50.40 | Monet_ | I think Imp and I talked that if the Eloa'Nar are multiuniversal in scope, then there is question as to what is the present for them. |
| 17:51.15 | Xho | Beings like the Eola'Nar/Vi'Navitum/Whatever essential probably have no comprehensible concept of chronology |
| 17:51.33 | Monet_ | Sarec was able to chase Volkarus into the past because of this idea that the present is relative. |
| 17:52.21 | Monet_ | Although he may have had assisitance from other Nars |
| 17:53.48 | *** join/#sporewiki MasterMachine (6c10c740@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.16.199.64) |
| 17:53.59 | MasterMachine | Hey |
| 17:54.06 | Knight_Alien | Hi. |
| 17:54.30 | Vincent20100 | Hey Master |
| 17:54.46 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 17:55.17 | Monet_ | I also get the suspicion that there might *possibly* be a Mali'Nar sarecout there somewhere in the Mali ranks |
| 17:57.01 | Monet_ | A depressed Sarec managed to unconsciously turn his bedroom into a void populated by floating rocks. I dread to think what he could do if he was consciously going mad. |
| 17:57.11 | Vincent20100 | Master, I'm planning the death of Chairman Vostok for soon |
| 17:57.24 | Vincent20100 | He will probably get replace by Strategos Anasta |
| 17:57.39 | Xho | Monet_: Unconsciously turn his bedroom into a void populated by mad floating rocks possibly |
| 17:58.20 | Monet_ | Xho:Well obviously there's that |
| 18:01.43 | Vincent20100 | Well, gotta go |
| 18:01.47 | Vincent20100 | See you guys |
| 18:02.32 | Xho | Dunno what to do at the moment |
| 18:02.42 | OluapPlayer | Things |
| 18:03.03 | Xho | fog war nao |
| 18:03.11 | OluapPlayer | not yit |
| 18:03.15 | OluapPlayer | Still need to plan it |
| 18:03.34 | *** join/#sporewiki Flashduck (591b3a6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.27.58.111) |
| 18:03.41 | Flashduck | Sup guys, |
| 18:03.48 | Flashduck | Long time no see. |
| 18:04.07 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 18:04.25 | Xho | Actually I know what to do |
| 18:22.37 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8e44422f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.68.66.47) |
| 18:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
| 18:24.15 | MasterMachine | Hi |
| 18:25.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 18:26.17 | *** join/#sporewiki drom (~dromlexer@unaffiliated/drom) |
| 18:26.23 | Hachiman | http://www.nymeta.co/15-year-old-swatted-gamer-convicted-domestic-terrorism-25-years-life-federal-prison/ lol |
| 18:26.47 | OluapPlayer | http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831182554/spore/images/thumb/4/45/Malcaeum.png/552px-Malcaeum.png little angry men |
| 18:27.35 | Hachiman | Ooh I like |
| 18:30.13 | Hachiman | https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10583908_886601631387028_6721097567470651879_n.png?oh=78d3bb023328d4412b27b83e51f945d6&oe=545B44CA |
| 18:31.33 | drom | hachiman: Goddamn kids these days |
| 18:31.42 | OluapPlayer | Oh great, the wiki is being a shit to update pictures again |
| 18:41.22 | OluapPlayer | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831184100/spore/images/6/68/DarkInj_Malcaeum.png big angry men |
| 18:41.59 | Xho | Psi - y'all dicks |
| 18:42.44 | Wormy | I have no sympathy for Paul Horner |
| 18:42.54 | drom | come at me |
| 18:42.58 | drom | fite me |
| 18:43.15 | Wormy | drives a tank over drom |
| 18:43.21 | Wormy | your sanctions mean nothing |
| 18:45.21 | Hachiman | dat neck |
| 18:45.25 | Hachiman | But I like it |
| 18:45.47 | Hachiman | I like the fact that they have actual swords now |
| 18:46.48 | Wormy | indeed |
| 18:48.19 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831184739/spore/images/2/2c/KicathianAgentArmed.png I did a thing |
| 18:48.56 | OluapPlayer | canun |
| 18:49.10 | *** join/#sporewiki GD12 (427591e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.117.145.231) |
| 18:49.12 | Hachiman | That looks pretty damn neat |
| 18:49.19 | GD12 | Hello |
| 18:49.35 | Hachiman | Is that a sword on his back? |
| 18:49.37 | Imperios | Xho: They look Soldier-ish |
| 18:49.46 | Xho | Hachiman: Yes |
| 18:50.06 | Hachiman | butbut drawin from da bak is impractical hur |
| 18:50.15 | Xho | Kicath |
| 18:50.24 | OluapPlayer | bad excuse |
| 18:50.24 | Hachiman | True hur |
| 18:50.57 | Hachiman | https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1613805_316886568472045_1773148152621561793_n.png?oh=e1c4d024484d4e616fa55334e70ee3f1&oe=547C9CD7 |
| 18:51.01 | Xho | Imperios: Well they are supersoldiers |
| 18:51.16 | GD12 | What are we talking about? |
| 18:51.31 | Imperios | As in TF2 soldier |
| 18:51.51 | GD12 | ahh this http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831184739/spore/images/2/2c/KicathianAgentArmed.png |
| 18:51.55 | Hachiman | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831184739/spore/images/2/2c/KicathianAgentArmed.png |
| 18:52.17 | Hachiman | I wonder what sort of swords Agents would need to use |
| 18:52.20 | Xho | "If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Kithworto said that, and he knows a little more about fighting then you do pal, because he invented it!" |
| 18:52.31 | GD12 | Nicely posed model |
| 18:52.41 | GD12 | Probably a monomolecular blade with an energy seathe |
| 18:52.44 | GD12 | *sheathe even |
| 18:52.59 | GD12 | I'm pretty sure thats the type of blade most supersoldiers of that advancement use |
| 18:52.59 | Hachiman | Considering they can break bones and armour with just punches |
| 18:53.08 | Xho | Well I dunno the mechanics behind Tier 1 swords but it's strong enough to pierce other Agent shields |
| 18:53.14 | Hachiman | Yeah they have to be pretty good blades |
| 18:54.14 | Xho | Agent swords don't have any particular aesthetic to them though |
| 18:54.21 | Xho | They just look like normal swords from a first glance |
| 18:54.44 | drom | I wonder what Naakji supersoldiers should be like. |
| 18:55.18 | GD12 | Supersoldiers on the wiki all have insane strength, power and durability |
| 18:55.36 | GD12 | (Thats judging from Overseers, Kicath Agents, Wraith Legion, and Niddan Ho) |
| 18:55.42 | Xho | Unless you're an Agent then you have the additional insanity on top of it |
| 18:55.50 | drom | hoh |
| 18:55.52 | GD12 | Thats correct |
| 18:55.58 | GD12 | They screen out the mentally stable people |
| 18:56.28 | GD12 | Perhaps as part of agent screening process in order to be admitted you need to have been reccomendend to an asylum by your psychiatrist at least several times? |
| 18:56.36 | MonetAway | Or most Kicath coem out mentally broken |
| 18:56.40 | Xho | Nu - correction; escape from the asylum |
| 18:56.44 | OluapPlayer | http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140831185612/spore/images/thumb/5/5b/Skewer_Malcaeum.png/652px-Skewer_Malcaeum.png fuk ur lil mortal sword |
| 18:56.52 | Xho | nito |
| 18:57.01 | Hachiman | Oh shit that's nice |
| 18:57.11 | GD12 | Thats nice |
| 18:57.18 | Xho | The only real normal Agents are Tau and Upsilon |
| 18:57.28 | MonetAway | OluapPLayer: Bloody hell! |
| 18:57.30 | Xho | The rest of them are quite nuts |
| 18:57.40 | Hachiman | Skewer looks a lot more intimidating like that |
| 18:57.42 | GD12 | tl;dr easier to count sane agents than insane ones |
| 18:57.44 | Hachiman | Looks a bit like a dragon |
| 18:57.44 | Xho | Or if you're Mu, a loner |
| 18:58.36 | OluapPlayer | I actually made it while thinking about the Old Iron King |
| 18:58.54 | drom | Time to get a realism-realible concept for Naakji supersoldiers. |
| 18:59.19 | Hachiman | Skewer Demon hur |
| 18:59.21 | GD12 | I made a short section before on the Dominatus creation of human overseers. |
| 18:59.27 | Xho | Old Iron King looks like the Balrog as far as I ca see |
| 18:59.29 | GD12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.30 | Xho | can see* |
| 18:59.31 | GD12 | wat |
| 18:59.32 | OluapPlayer | He does yeah |
| 18:59.43 | OluapPlayer | Nowhere as threatening as a Balrog though |
| 18:59.44 | GD12 | All Kicathian agents get death/life energy? |
| 18:59.59 | Xho | GD12: Prepare for a raping greater than Santorakh sodomizing you with a seven ended cactus |
| 19:00.25 | GD12 | attempts to hop off board the rape train |
| 19:00.28 | Xho | Standard abilities anyway |
| 19:00.29 | OluapPlayer | It'd make no sense for a demon who takes glee in skewering multiple people into his blade to use a curved sword like the rest of the Malcaeum |
| 19:00.34 | OluapPlayer | So I gave him a spear arm instead |
| 19:00.45 | Xho | Agents like Mu have greater-than-standard abilities |
| 19:01.02 | Xho | Well Mu is the only Agent to have actually been ascended (?) into that state |
| 19:01.10 | OluapPlayer | Mu - it sucks don't do it |
| 19:01.19 | Xho | Kithworto - just cuz u got dum arm |
| 19:01.27 | OluapPlayer | Mu - how bout u fix dis |
| 19:01.37 | MonetAway | One thing that borderline tier 1s have is that their tech begins to stray into Arthur C. Clarke's definition of magic. |
| 19:01.38 | Xho | Kithworto - u dunt see me with dum arms |
| 19:01.46 | OluapPlayer | Mu - fix dis dam u |
| 19:01.54 | Xho | Kithworto - fien |
| 19:02.00 | Xho | I can fix Mu's model if you want |
| 19:02.12 | OluapPlayer | Nah |
| 19:02.23 | GD12 | MonetAway : Very true |
| 19:02.28 | OluapPlayer | He's unique this way |
| 19:02.34 | OluapPlayer | As impractical as it may be hur |
| 19:02.52 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10620599_1512495398967530_8953348580938364748_n.jpg?oh=e7de438f9f3f9aa8bbb5bddbe5b76d18&oe=545F320F&__gda__=1415892920_cecf0f4ef4c732483189cbbc7c86ec23 That's all hair btw |
| 19:03.00 | Hachiman | Not mine, mind you |
| 19:03.08 | Xho | Looks like a solidified dinosaur shit |
| 19:03.24 | OluapPlayer | Anyway, I can imagine the Skewer's spear-arm being retractable and being interchangeable between hardened and loose enough to be used as a whip |
| 19:03.25 | Xho | You could kill a man whacking that over someone's head |
| 19:03.46 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: That sounds terrifying |
| 19:04.36 | OluapPlayer | He likely does that when he can't kill his enemy with thrusting attacks |
| 19:04.51 | OluapPlayer | It's like a huge bony tentacle thing |
| 19:04.53 | Hachiman | Skewer - erekshun cant kill so i go limp |
| 19:04.55 | GD12 | Skewer hardens his tools before he thrusts into his enemies |
| 19:05.07 | OluapPlayer | ur all so predictable |
| 19:05.11 | GD12 | too tru |
| 19:05.19 | Hachiman | 2tru4me |
| 19:05.27 | Xho | Strangely enough I didn't even think of that |
| 19:05.30 | Xho | Slo Xho |
| 19:05.38 | GD12 | Slo Spu even |
| 19:05.40 | GD12 | Slu |
| 19:05.46 | Hachiman | Slospu |
| 19:05.52 | Xho | Slomospu |
| 19:05.59 | OluapPlayer | If Corruptus forces used shields he'd like fight by poking people from behind a huge demon shield |
| 19:06.08 | OluapPlayer | But thankfully for everyone the Corruptus thinks shields are for nerds |
| 19:06.13 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:06.16 | Xho | Upsilon - ;A; |
| 19:06.26 | GD12 | Xho : What program did you use to make this? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130612171333/spore/images/b/bd/AgentDiagram.png |
| 19:06.40 | Xho | Probably GIMP |
| 19:06.51 | GD12 | I see |
| 19:06.54 | Hachiman | Reminds me of why samurai don't use shields since they always want full mobility, although the Corruptus also have living tanks on their side so that helps hur |
| 19:07.14 | Xho | I dunno why Upsilon uses shields since he was designed in the same program to be sturdier than a moving tank |
| 19:07.23 | OluapPlayer | To be even sturdier |
| 19:07.31 | MonetAway | Is Ulipson the one with the police armour? |
| 19:07.35 | Xho | Yeah |
| 19:07.44 | OluapPlayer | Since Malcaeum ride Sarungerak into battle |
| 19:07.49 | OluapPlayer | I wonder if the Skewer has a mount |
| 19:07.50 | MonetAway | I guess its a riot shield then. |
| 19:07.57 | Xho | Pretty much is |
| 19:07.58 | Hachiman | Skewer - gud puppy |
| 19:08.02 | GD12 | Anyway got to go now |
| 19:08.03 | Xho | Crux - woof |
| 19:08.04 | GD12 | cyall sometime |
| 19:08.13 | OluapPlayer | It'd probably be the most powerful of all Sarungerak |
| 19:08.22 | OluapPlayer | Whoever that may be |
| 19:08.29 | Hachiman | Fluffy |
| 19:08.32 | OluapPlayer | Can't hard to make one when they're all essentially demon dogs |
| 19:08.35 | Xho | Santorakh - ur makin this awkward Skewer - shup ride |
| 19:08.36 | OluapPlayer | *Kinda hard |
| 19:08.45 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 19:08.59 | Hachiman | Give it three heads and you should be fine |
| 19:09.01 | Xho | I can imagine Santorakh just giving the Skewer a piggy back ride into battle |
| 19:09.02 | drom | I think I shall call those Naakji supers for "Outsiders" then. |
| 19:09.04 | Xho | Or the other way round |
| 19:09.06 | OluapPlayer | dats cheap |
| 19:09.27 | OluapPlayer | Skewer - i never asked for this |
| 19:09.49 | Xho | Or the Sarungerak being ridden by the Skewer who is being ridden by Santorakh |
| 19:09.50 | drom | Any other name suggestions anyway? |
| 19:09.57 | Xho | Drom: "Dums" - Agents |
| 19:10.09 | OluapPlayer | Demon tower |
| 19:10.20 | drom | goddamnit Xho |
| 19:10.28 | Xho | Santorakh - YOU AIN'T GOT THE BADGES TO TRAIN US |
| 19:10.39 | drom | I shall maek mine superior to yours and fite me then |
| 19:11.00 | Hachiman | Drom: Outlanders |
| 19:11.08 | Xho | Now you've just said that the wiki is gonna look down on it |
| 19:11.18 | drom | the one who makes the best giggle, giggles last |
| 19:11.28 | MonetAway | drom: Wil lthey be referred to by the English or the Naaji term? |
| 19:12.04 | drom | Outsiders or Outlanders as Hachi suggested as a nickname |
| 19:12.19 | Hachiman | I should make Zazane supersoldiers just walking katanas |
| 19:12.30 | Hachiman | Because nothing beats grorious nippon steer |
| 19:12.34 | OluapPlayer | The Weeaboo Force |
| 19:12.52 | OluapPlayer | Katanas With Arms |
| 19:12.53 | Hachiman | Ginyu hur |
| 19:12.58 | Xho | I just had the horrific idea of implementing an oracle into an Agent body |
| 19:13.10 | Xho | Kicath train never stops |
| 19:13.15 | OluapPlayer | wot |
| 19:13.18 | MonetAway | I don't think the universe is ready |
| 19:13.35 | OluapPlayer | I don't get it |
| 19:13.43 | Xho | Oracle hypercomputer |
| 19:14.01 | OluapPlayer | Still don't get it hur |
| 19:14.08 | Hachiman | Basically a supercomputer |
| 19:14.15 | Xho | Basically what the Kicath use in their ships to make fighting them an absolute nightmare |
| 19:14.35 | Xho | Since it kind of does everything for them much faster than a Kicath crew could ever do |
| 19:15.06 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 19:15.09 | drom | MonetAway: The one of the ideas for a potential Naakji super is a soldier ulitizing a suit with depots with high amounts of essence and devices that uses essence to bend physics. |
| 19:15.10 | MonetAway | You call it an Orcale computer, is it capable of highly-accurate anticipation? |
| 19:15.39 | Xho | Probably doesn't anticipate but can assess situations fast enough to assume it anticipates |
| 19:15.48 | Xho | Agent VI model: Kicath implement orcale hybrid brains into their models |
| 19:16.05 | Xho | That would make the current Agents look like toddlers |
| 19:16.10 | Wormy | Hachiman: An oracle machine is just a different class completely to any computation. |
| 19:16.35 | Xho | I call this idea but I doubt I'll ever use it |
| 19:17.09 | Xho | Agent VI with oracle hypercomputer hybrids sounds like you wouldn't even need Kithworto for your help |
| 19:17.21 | Monet_ | drom: Using essence is hmm...wel lI'm guessing you'll be using elemental energy. Luckily I hve a thesis that tries to explain how elemental causes psychic powers. |
| 19:18.19 | Xho | I mean you'd have that kind of brain with an advanced body, ablative armour and non-phasic shielding and the capability to wield Death or Life energy |
| 19:18.25 | Xho | That's the kind of thing that Agents are scared of |
| 19:18.30 | drom | Hmm. Interesting. How about artifical (not naturaly emitted) teleknesis? |
| 19:18.45 | Monet_ | drom: Its possible. |
| 19:19.00 | Xho | Or an oracle hypercomputer operating an Agent V body |
| 19:19.09 | Xho | Okay I'm gonna stop this rape train now |
| 19:19.37 | drom | Good. |
| 19:19.56 | OluapPlayer | Enough dick waving pls |
| 19:20.04 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 19:20.04 | drom | Nothing worth was lost. |
| 19:20.11 | Wormy | I can't believe this says "Obviously" at the end http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsch%E2%80%93Jozsa_algorithm#Deutsch.27s_Algorithm |
| 19:20.24 | Monet_ | drom: At its most basic, I think it was discussed that telekinesis is caused by interaction with hyperspace. |
| 19:20.49 | drom | Ooooh. |
| 19:21.03 | Xho | But now we know the Kicath are mad enough to do that if so inclined |
| 19:21.06 | Wormy | ah yes |
| 19:21.16 | drom | This thesis convinces me to get into the new collab idea if I adopt that. |
| 19:21.24 | Xho | I wonder how Dominion soldiers would fare against stuff like that |
| 19:21.39 | Wormy | Its one of the reasons why I said we could explore hyperspace in a story, hinting at origins of Essence |
| 19:21.41 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh - DO THE SAME, ADD CHEESE TO IT |
| 19:21.46 | Xho | Genius |
| 19:21.51 | Wormy | IMO, essence and hyperspace might be artificial... |
| 19:22.16 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh is in charge of all Dominion inventions and war tactics |
| 19:22.19 | Xho | Great now I'm thinking of plastic surgery gives you superpowers |
| 19:22.36 | Wormy | it does sporewikiverse it seems |
| 19:22.38 | DrodoEmpire | points at Wormy screams at the top of his lungs "HERESY!" |
| 19:22.40 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Santorakh - u see dem rectifiers cheese graters |
| 19:22.43 | drom | Let' see. 1. Telekinesis. 2. Physics bending with elemential energy. And how about 3. Hyperspace exploitation? |
| 19:22.53 | DrodoEmpire | *and screams |
| 19:22.58 | Xho | Santorakh - u see dem megaconstructs ovens |
| 19:23.09 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh - shu'suvreca im promotion u to cheese dispenser |
| 19:23.12 | Monet_ | The thing about elemental energy is that it oculd be considered interchangeable with kinetic, chemical, elastic, heat etc. energy |
| 19:23.17 | Wormy | Fangirling Drodo? |
| 19:23.24 | DrodoEmpire | No, just kidding. XD |
| 19:23.26 | Xho | Shu'suvreca - NOOOO--OOOO--OOOOH |
| 19:23.27 | Wormy | Its nice to have a fan lol |
| 19:23.30 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 19:23.53 | Angrybirds | Sneak preview at the Orion War of the Great Xonexian Schism: ww.i.imgur.com/dn7UyyB.jpg :D |
| 19:23.58 | Angrybirds | derp |
| 19:24.00 | Angrybirds | www.i.imgur.com/dn7UyyB.jpg |
| 19:24.04 | Xho | Santorakh rides Shu'suvreca through the cosmos whilst singing the Tonari no Totoro theme tune |
| 19:24.07 | drom | noice |
| 19:24.20 | OluapPlayer | Shu'suvreca - f-u-k |
| 19:24.33 | drom | Monet_ I was thinking of a very wide range, if that's possible. |
| 19:25.45 | Monet_ | drom: No what I'm trying to say is I consider EE interchangeable with the forms of energy we already know, and not some special separate ennergy type |
| 19:26.28 | drom | I see. |
| 19:26.38 | Monet_ | Telekinesis for instance could involve something being suspended by a hyperspace-transmitted hologram of a person's hand. |
| 19:27.01 | Monet_ | Generated by photonic emissions from within a person's own cells |
| 19:27.30 | Xho | September already tomorrow jesus |
| 19:27.43 | OluapPlayer | septembru |
| 19:27.56 | Xho | Oh well time to close my windows because this is giant bug month |
| 19:28.51 | Imperios | Monet_: Hm, I wonder |
| 19:28.54 | drom | But which energy should be fitting for gravity alternation, forcefield emission and energy being used as weapon? |
| 19:29.08 | Imperios | How many people are in your uni group? |
| 19:29.12 | drom | In an efficient way. |
| 19:29.18 | Xho | Drom: You can do that with technology |
| 19:29.39 | Monet_ | Imperios: Which uni group? |
| 19:30.17 | Imperios | As in, the people you study with |
| 19:31.15 | Monet_ | If you mean classmates, well for Architecture I was in a studio of 100 but this year I think i'll be joinign a group of either 30 or 60 |
| 19:32.52 | Imperios | Hur |
| 19:33.26 | Imperios | I have a group of, like, ten people or somethin |
| 19:33.28 | Imperios | g |
| 19:33.45 | Imperios | Most of whom are female |
| 19:34.08 | Monet_ | 100 people was my entire year group and 30 of them were Interior Architecture students. |
| 19:34.39 | drom | Another sketch, these super can drift between the reality and hyperspace to gain high mobility and power. Taking in form a cloudy projectile. Returns back to normal when opting out off that mode. |
| 19:36.48 | Monet_ | I think what normally happens with something that enters hyperspace is it becomes umperceptable by realspace-only detectors |
| 19:36.50 | drom | Taking the concept of that misty blob form that wizards utliize. As seen in the movie "Harry Potter: the Order of the Phoenix". |
| 19:36.57 | Monet_ | imperceptable* |
| 19:37.42 | Monet_ | Although the drawback is that when in hyperspace I don't think they'll be able to see much. |
| 19:38.01 | drom | Or whatever which movie it was |
| 19:40.16 | drom | In this style. http://youtu.be/Mo-U5iOinM8?t=33s |
| 19:41.29 | Imperios | Monet_: I met a few of my classmates and they're quite nice people |
| 19:41.42 | Imperios | *I've met a few of my classmates already |
| 19:41.48 | Monet_ | drom: That doesn't look lie a hyperspace trick |
| 19:42.02 | Monet_ | Utility fog trick perhaps, or some exotic form of jetpack |
| 19:42.14 | Imperios | actua;lly nvm |
| 19:42.52 | drom | Luckly my group consists of only 5 people, plus myself. They all are nice. But I'm the least social out the bunch |
| 19:43.12 | Monet_ | I'm not due to meet my classmates until the 15th |
| 19:43.36 | drom | Monet_ I was thinking of an exersive reality/physics bending to achieve something like that. |
| 19:45.28 | Monet_ | drom: Well, there is electromagnetic propulsion |
| 19:46.21 | Monet_ | Although I wonder about the health effects of donnign a high-power electormagnet in order to fly. |
| 19:46.32 | drom | Special suits. |
| 19:49.13 | drom | But I'm still stuck on advanced physics alternation. |
| 19:57.00 | Xho | Well I've decided that when I'm going to New York I'm gonna buy a guitar |
| 19:57.07 | Xho | Though it's gonna cost me $1100 |
| 19:57.22 | drom | Time save up. |
| 19:57.30 | drom | Or die as a hobo |
| 19:57.48 | Xho | Well I currently have $1750 worth in my account |
| 19:58.17 | Xho | Though that doesn't account for everything else such as food and travel |
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| 19:58.53 | drom | Oh hai. Network failed you? |
| 19:59.26 | Imperios | Gonna write profitstone |
| 19:59.31 | Imperios | Gimme good soundtrack for Javi |
| 20:00.06 | Xho | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A |
| 20:00.46 | drom | "Outsiders" will it be. Ultiizing with high-energy devices to alter physics on a large and advanced scale. |
| 20:00.57 | Imperios | Xho: Glorious hat |
| 20:00.58 | Imperios | fitting |
| 20:01.03 | Xho | Oh |
| 20:01.10 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 This was my real suggestion |
| 20:01.56 | drom | I just don't get with the thing with that video. |
| 20:02.17 | drom | And why they do that. |
| 20:02.31 | Imperios | Xho: Good, now I have mental images of Javi and Alfgund singing this |
| 20:02.40 | Xho | Welcome to hell hur |
| 20:03.25 | Imperios | Alfgund - com go party | Javina - I AM LESBIAN DAMMIT |
| 20:03.30 | drom | Monet_ Is there any additional potential uses of hyperspace other than telekinesis and space travel? |
| 20:04.53 | drom | Oh I'm using the wrong one. |
| 20:05.02 | drom | gently pokes Monet__* |
| 20:05.09 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, Imperios, did you get to check out the Atonement ending? |
| 20:05.17 | Ghel | drom: Here's page that could probably have more added to it: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_topics/Hyperspace |
| 20:05.17 | Hachiman | Nope not yet |
| 20:05.31 | Technobliterator | do it :o |
| 20:05.45 | Imperios | in a sec |
| 20:06.39 | drom | Thanks Ghel |
| 20:11.11 | Monet__ | drom: Yeah, there is using hypermatter somehow |
| 20:11.23 | Monet__ | It tends to have an exlposive reation with realspace physics |
| 20:13.57 | Technobliterator | sec I'll give the poll a white background so it shows up better |
| 20:16.19 | drom | Monet__: If the reaction is very violent when entering/exiting the realspace. Is it possible to apply those effect to be fatal on enemies without causing injury to the user? |
| 20:17.17 | Monet__ | Not without powerful enough shielding. |
| 20:17.33 | Monet__ | We're talking about an explosion as the hypermatter enters our universe. |
| 20:18.26 | drom | I guess that the supers can use that to kill enemies by surprise if the technology is powerful enough. |
| 20:21.39 | Monet__ | Best tactical advice I can suggest is to open a hyperspace rift and pull hypermatter out around the target |
| 20:24.13 | drom | Doesn't sounds like a bad idea. |
| 20:26.28 | Wormy | Time vto watch Dr Who on Iplayer |
| 20:29.23 | drom | Their excessive use of physics bending and hyperspatial drifting and use makes a reason to call them as Outsiders. That's it. |
| 20:29.28 | drom | Thanks for the help! |
| 20:30.48 | Imperios | Hm |
| 20:30.56 | Imperios | Gimme a name for the isle the Inquisition uses as headquarters |
| 20:31.28 | OluapPlayer | Hitler Island |
| 20:32.46 | Imperios | hur |
| 20:33.16 | Imperios | Funnily enough if I manage to find the etymology of the surname "Hitler" I can use it |
| 20:33.20 | Imperios | Also, random fact |
| 20:33.53 | Imperios | Hitler's true surname was "Schicklgruber" |
| 20:34.24 | Hachiman | The Unpublished Haven, Geheimnus Domum |
| 20:36.03 | Imperios | "The Hitler surname is probably based on "one who lives in a hut" (Standard German Hütte for hut) or on "shepherd" (Standard German hüten for to guard)" |
| 20:36.08 | Imperios | > or on "shepherd" |
| 20:36.10 | Imperios | Wrex. |
| 20:36.11 | Imperios | Hitler. |
| 20:37.42 | drom | Did you just say the name of one of my friends? |
| 20:38.21 | Hachiman | If your friend is called Hitler |
| 20:38.30 | drom | lolno |
| 20:41.24 | Hachiman | SWverse needs more characters who sit around and get high in their spare time hur |
| 20:41.52 | Hachiman | Although considering Hachi has some influence over Dream Energy it's probably likely he needs none |
| 20:42.56 | Hachiman | Not that he sits around gets high in his spare time |
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| 20:47.50 | drom | Whats the best and closest word to a location/adjective of the subantive Outsider? |
| 20:47.55 | drom | I can't find one. |
| 20:48.03 | Hachiman | How'd you mean? |
| 20:48.19 | Hachiman | Angrybirds: I misread "Orion War" as "Onion War" |
| 20:48.30 | Angrybirds | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 20:48.33 | drom | lol |
| 20:48.46 | OluapPlayer | get shrekd |
| 20:48.54 | Hachiman | olol |
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| 20:49.07 | Angrybirds | Oh that's awesome. xD |
| 20:49.11 | Zmr56 | \hi there |
| 20:49.19 | drom | You mean "comon! cry me some more! and die from dehyradration!" |
| 20:49.43 | Angrybirds | For reference: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Orion_War |
| 20:49.56 | drom | Dehydration through endless crying. |
| 20:50.23 | Hachiman | The Onion War; the forces of the Shrek Coalition vs the Farquaad League |
| 20:50.38 | OluapPlayer | Independent side: DONKEY |
| 20:50.58 | Hachiman | Featuring DONTE from the Devil May Cry Series! |
| 20:51.05 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 20:51.09 | drom | Hachiman: Something related to inter-dimesional/inter-universal or physically different in a single word/term. |
| 20:51.46 | Hachiman | Hm |
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| 20:52.31 | GD12 | Hello once again |
| 20:52.53 | Zmr56 | Hi |
| 20:53.33 | drom | Hello. |
| 20:54.12 | Ghel | Hello. |
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| 20:56.09 | Monet__ | drom: "Ethereal" is one possibility |
| 20:56.20 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: The Unpublished Haven, Geheimnus Domum |
| 20:56.23 | GD12 | what are we talking about? |
| 20:56.32 | ImpyDroid | rite |
| 20:56.38 | ImpyDroid | Wait, why German name |
| 20:56.41 | Monet__ | If it draws inspiration I recall the Djinni are supposed to be beings from a higher plane of existence. |
| 20:56.49 | ImpyDroid | The Inquisition is based near l'Ammanori |
| 20:56.55 | Hachiman | Comes from German "geheimnis" which means "secret" and Latin "domum" which means home hur |
| 20:56.55 | GD12 | What are we getting naems for? |
| 20:57.06 | Monet__ | [21:51] <drom> Hachiman: Something related to inter-dimesional/inter-universal or physically different in a single word/term. |
| 20:57.13 | Monet__ | For Drom's naaji supersoldiers |
| 20:57.27 | drom | twitches* |
| 20:57.30 | Hachiman | And Imp wants a name for the isle that his Inquisition resides on |
| 20:57.45 | drom | grmbl grmbl, you mean Naakji. |
| 20:57.57 | Monet__ | Sorry |
| 20:58.17 | drom | It's okay. I shouldn't be that senstivtive. |
| 20:58.36 | GD12 | Well do they have any special defining characteristics? |
| 20:59.27 | drom | Excessive bending of the physical rules on an advanced scale and usually travels through hyperspace and utlitizes attacks through it. |
| 21:00.10 | drom | The soldiers are nicked as Outsiders but they are a product of the of an (currently) unnamed program. |
| 21:01.00 | Hachiman | Program "Infinity & Beyond" |
| 21:01.00 | drom | So I'm looking for a name for it Etheral is a suggestion. |
| 21:01.03 | GD12 | I'd go for Ethereal/Phantom/Banshee |
| 21:01.16 | GD12 | Perhaps Specter but thats kind of Mass Effecty |
| 21:01.55 | Hachiman | Orgasm |
| 21:01.57 | Hachiman | I mean Phantasm |
| 21:02.04 | Hachiman | Woops |
| 21:02.10 | drom | Get out. Sporewiki isn't about sexualism |
| 21:03.54 | Liquid_Ink | Umm... |
| 21:04.17 | Hachiman | Twas an accident |
| 21:04.28 | Hachiman | Another name I'd suggest would be Eidolon |
| 21:04.34 | Liquid_Ink | Obviously drom you haven't come across any of the sex scenes. |
| 21:05.01 | Monet__ | We never do any -actual- sex |
| 21:05.13 | Hachiman | Not yet, anyway |
| 21:05.21 | Liquid_Ink | It's easily fixed. |
| 21:05.29 | GD12 | Yeah I don't think theres any explicit sex on sporewiki |
| 21:05.30 | Hachiman | I'm still talking with the admins about that :p |
| 21:05.40 | Monet__ | We hint at it and close scenes before it happens but we've never shown it actually happening |
| 21:05.52 | GD12 | We have explicit torture scenes (I think I've made the majority of those hur) but not explicit sexscene |
| 21:05.53 | drom | Because boner exerices are bad for my dong. |
| 21:06.14 | Hachiman | We may not have sex but we do have full-on, sometimes non-sexual nudity hur |
| 21:06.46 | Xho | Torture is funnier that's why |
| 21:06.53 | OluapPlayer | u wish |
| 21:07.00 | Hachiman | u sadist |
| 21:07.46 | Jepardi | http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/awb71oQ_460s_v2.jpg |
| 21:07.55 | drom | Gonna scribe down the suggestions so far |
| 21:08.23 | GD12 | Ghost perhaps? |
| 21:08.34 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/994185_917115664976112_3006868648545245739_n.jpg?oh=057419af8b732f30cc44c02d42d8cb29&oe=54818AA4&__gda__=1417805913_a3f3d6de43a18d0d4a5c584ce9b14afe For nerds |
| 21:08.47 | Xho | OluapPlayer: The only way that a sex scene can be funny if they said mid-whatever "I think the condom broke" |
| 21:08.54 | drom | Eidolon, Etheral, Phantom, Banshee, "Infinity and Beyond" and Ghosts. That's what we have got so far. |
| 21:08.57 | drom | Ghost* |
| 21:09.33 | Hachiman | Wait until you realize that "Infinity and Beyond" is a Buzz Lightyear reference |
| 21:09.35 | OluapPlayer | ur a sad lil man u now dat |
| 21:09.49 | drom | Nope. |
| 21:09.57 | GD12 | Xho : Or if at the climax the girl says "ARE YOU READY TO BE A DAD?" |
| 21:10.21 | Xho | Nu - *screams* |
| 21:10.36 | Xho | Or Pelagrios in that matter |
| 21:10.42 | Hachiman | Hachi - ARE YOU READY TO BE A DAD |
| 21:10.51 | Xho | Nu - wait wat |
| 21:10.58 | GD12 | Pelagrios Hookup - I POKED HOLES AND I HAVE AIDS |
| 21:11.02 | GD12 | GOTTA CATCH EM ALL |
| 21:11.14 | GD12 | *ALL referring to STDS |
| 21:11.52 | drom | So which fits them the best according to you people? |
| 21:11.52 | GD12 | shuts up now |
| 21:12.02 | GD12 | I think Ethereal or Phantom |
| 21:12.06 | Xho | Pelagrios' Gladiitenebris shard makes him immune to sexually transmitted diseases |
| 21:12.21 | OluapPlayer | Caligaduro is safe |
| 21:12.27 | Jepardi | http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/ae3p45q_460s_v2.jpg |
| 21:12.35 | Xho | Well at a cost of slowly devouring your soul |
| 21:13.07 | Xho | I dunno whether the shard actually makes him immortal or not |
| 21:13.08 | Xho | At this point |
| 21:13.35 | Xho | It does make him immune to disease as well as being able to drink to the point where ten men would die from the amount he drinks |
| 21:14.05 | Monet__ | Doesn't it also have adverse effects on his skin? |
| 21:14.14 | Xho | Well his appearance in general yeah |
| 21:14.29 | Xho | Pelagrios in his Eschaton prologue looks more ill than he did before |
| 21:14.54 | Xho | Give it time and he'd be the child of Jack Sparrow and Cervantes |
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| 21:15.08 | Xho | Though Cervantes is actually super evil |
| 21:15.20 | drom | Okay. Ethereal or Phantom? I think I can use the rest as name for different types of those soldiers. |
| 21:15.32 | GD12 | Xho : Are they making a Soul Calibur VI or not? |
| 21:15.46 | Xho | I wish they did but they murdered the Soul series with V |
| 21:16.36 | Monet__ | Xho: Will Pelagrios ever get this bad? http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/7/71878/1259204-dsionkorriban.jpg |
| 21:16.45 | GD12 | Yeah, the Soul Series is a great series. My favorite characters are probably Astaroth and Nightmare |
| 21:16.50 | Xho | Give it 200 years or so |
| 21:17.16 | Xho | Though I think the Dawn Wardens would realise that Pelagrios is turning into a phantom before that |
| 21:17.39 | Xho | GD12: I like Zasalamel |
| 21:18.01 | drom | How about "Ethereal Phantom"? |
| 21:18.03 | GD12 | Scythe dood? |
| 21:18.13 | OluapPlayer | I don't think you can hide a shard of Caligaduro's weapon of choice from Vixaatus |
| 21:18.17 | Xho | Yes, Scythe dood |
| 21:18.17 | GD12 | is pretty sure that GD12 just plays as Ivy |
| 21:18.22 | GD12 | *Xho plays as Ivy |
| 21:18.23 | OluapPlayer | Or Kinmo or Septimus who are both involved with the Wardens |
| 21:18.26 | GD12 | DAMNIT |
| 21:18.40 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Well he's hidden it from Kinmo very well |
| 21:18.40 | GD12 | That snide remark backfired horribly |
| 21:18.47 | Xho | I can't play as Ivy for shit |
| 21:18.49 | OluapPlayer | how dis |
| 21:19.02 | Xho | cuz Pelagrios hur |
| 21:19.06 | OluapPlayer | dum |
| 21:19.24 | Xho | Pelagrios is the only known person in Koldenwelt's history to have stolen from Kinmo twice without him knowing |
| 21:20.16 | Monet__ | Kimno - In hindsight...I suck at keeping my super-dangerous things safe. |
| 21:20.41 | Xho | Pelagrios - correction your things aren't Pelagrios-proof |
| 21:21.08 | OluapPlayer | Next time you see, Pelagrios steals Isiris |
| 21:21.31 | Xho | Norrigan - praise pelagrios |
| 21:21.36 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 21:22.15 | Monet__ | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ndpEC6QhFsU/TdrGUGrKhPI/AAAAAAAACQs/s7aXdHzf8Ws/s1600/jackoftradze+darth+sion+5.jpg That is one UGLY action figure! |
| 21:23.27 | Wormy | Can you actually get EU figures or is it just hand made (I think latter is true in this question) |
| 21:25.02 | Monet__ | Custom-made |
| 21:28.24 | OluapPlayer | ~seen Cyrannian |
| 21:28.27 | infobot | cyrannian <5f2c5d81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.44.93.129> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1d 5h 34m 26s ago, saying: '~tickle OluapPlayer'. |
| 21:28.31 | OluapPlayer | ngh |
| 21:29.29 | GD12 | bbl |
| 21:30.35 | Xho | Hyperspace exploration sounds a little boring to me |
| 21:31.30 | Xho | Then again much like my characters I'm only amused by pain, death and destruction |
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| 21:33.03 | Hachiman | Oh there will be plenty of pain, death and destruction |
| 21:33.11 | Hachiman | It's not just pure exploration |
| 21:34.04 | Monet__ | We just need ot annoy the right aliens. |
| 21:34.14 | Wormy | Yeah, I don't mean it to be an exploration story, as I said, users should write what they want and interact how they feel |
| 21:34.16 | Xho | Dominion - get da fuk outta our space |
| 21:34.39 | Monet__ | DI - Since when did you claim all of hyperspace? |
| 21:34.50 | Xho | Dominion - since cheese |
| 21:34.59 | Wormy | I imagine the Dominion would be trying to hypergra\b as much as they want and the DCP and DI would be a;; >:( |
| 21:35.11 | Wormy | all |
| 21:35.35 | Monet__ | Its a second war of Hyperspace lol. |
| 21:36.04 | Wormy | Of course, Hachi's hyperaliens would be an obstacle |
| 21:37.10 | Wormy | In my opinion, I think we should just small everythjing up together. I manage to tie all my seperate fictions into one saga |
| 21:37.17 | Hachiman | I imagine that the construction of hyperspace lanes would tie into a sort of "deforestation" thing |
| 21:37.22 | Wormy | In that case, would I be allowed to vote all three? |
| 21:37.42 | Hachiman | That would be immensely difficult |
| 21:37.42 | Wormy | I mean smash, not small |
| 21:38.19 | Wormy | I mean, imagine what effects the new hyperspace stories would have on the War of Ages |
| 21:38.30 | Xho | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwZbTQ4CQAAqCth.jpg The Xhodocto on this matter |
| 21:39.09 | Knight_Alien | Kitty power! |
| 21:39.52 | Wormy | I met this weird cat earlier |
| 21:40.19 | Knight_Alien | Was it smiling? |
| 21:40.30 | Wormy | Basically, if I leaned back, as relaxed as possible, she would come over for attention. But if I changed position and leant forwards, it was terrified of me |
| 21:41.15 | Wormy | I was trying to use body language - being relaxed, for it to come to me, which it did. But then, it only resulted in it feeling safer in that position. |
| 21:41.16 | Knight_Alien | Your a monster to her. |
| 21:41.36 | Wormy | A shapeshiting monsater |
| 21:41.41 | Wormy | *shifting, even |
| 21:41.52 | Knight_Alien | But when you are relaxed your a furby to her. |
| 21:41.59 | Wormy | aye |
| 21:42.10 | Knight_Alien | Or teletubby I am not sure. |
| 21:42.25 | Knight_Alien | Teletubby's are creepy I think. |
| 21:42.49 | Wormy | Nah, just someone's acid trip. |
| 21:43.14 | Knight_Alien | And they made tvs on stomach's while we watch a tv. |
| 21:43.17 | Wormy | My speling today is awful |
| 21:43.27 | Knight_Alien | So the wall is a stomach? |
| 21:43.42 | Wormy | must be |
| 21:44.00 | Knight_Alien | Teletbbuys:we make you think walls are stomachs.... |
| 21:45.27 | Hachiman | Actually you know what |
| 21:45.28 | Hachiman | I probably won't be able to coordinate this fiction |
| 21:45.30 | Hachiman | Just do whatever you want with it, I have college soon so I'll be too busy to coordinate. I probably shouldn't have left that idea of the thread, it was fucking stupid of me |
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| 21:46.16 | Knight_Alien | Da loronz are always like man warz da way and everyone else is like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeFS2DjJOrI |
| 21:52.47 | Technobliterator | ? |
| 21:54.04 | Xho | Knight_Alien: Angazhar to Santorakh pretty much |
| 21:54.53 | Technobliterator | what's going on |
| 21:55.01 | Xho | Everything |
| 21:55.39 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 21:55.41 | Monet__ | Hachi had a good idea but if he doesn't have time to coordinate it he doesn't have to. This is a community project |
| 21:57.26 | Wormy | I have offered to collab with him to integrate ideas (we might do this fiction anyway, even if it doesn't make it), but he did say it should be a community thing so he knows |
| 21:57.53 | Xho | https://vine.co/v/MLI7ZMzInLQ Santorakh, the Vine |
| 21:58.16 | Wormy | Tbh, I'm not too bothered if my idea makes it to be the main theme, as I said, I'll use it elsewhere |
| 21:58.49 | Wormy | I would love to see a new edition to the War of Ages saga |
| 21:59.01 | Xho | I'm too old and tired to do another one of those |
| 21:59.12 | Xho | Tantum killed it for me |
| 21:59.22 | Wormy | Old? Tired I can agree with that |
| 21:59.30 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyJBPfQv1wQ I should have posted this during our little wiki fiasco |
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| 21:59.38 | Wormy | hi |
| 22:00.01 | Xho | I might do another one but I can't really use the Xhodocto as a clause for an antagonist any more |
| 22:00.03 | Wormy | Save that one for next time lol |
| 22:00.10 | Wormy | Yeah |
| 22:00.18 | Xho | They're too...uh |
| 22:00.38 | Hachiman | I'm not going to coordinate this hyperspace fic. Wormy feel free to do it if you want with somebody else or do one of the other things somebody posted on the forum, I should just focus on my old stuff before I start running new fiction |
| 22:00.48 | Hachiman | Feel free to make use of my ideas as well |
| 22:00.51 | Wormy | I meant with the Dominion btw |
| 22:00.54 | Hachiman | You'll probably use them better than I will |
| 22:00.55 | Xho | Oh right |
| 22:01.14 | Xho | I could use the Dominion but I dunno how other users would react to it |
| 22:01.20 | Wormy | Hachiman: <Wormy> Tbh, I'm not too bothered if my idea makes it to be the main theme, as I said, I'll use it elsewhere |
| 22:01.32 | Wormy | You never know, we could always do it another time |
| 22:01.35 | Xho | I'll have to bash their heads in going "THEY ARE NOT THE LEGION OF THE DEATHMARCH SHUT UP" |
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| 22:01.49 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 22:01.51 | Wormy | hi |
| 22:02.26 | Technobliterator | we could always combine the ideas |
| 22:02.38 | Technobliterator | and have a hysperace exploration end up finding the Dominion :o |
| 22:02.44 | Wormy | I did suggest that earlier |
| 22:03.03 | Xho | If users really want to see another Gigaquadrantic mash up with the Xhodocto and their lackies then so be it |
| 22:03.08 | Wormy | Or have hyperspace make the war more difficult for both sides |
| 22:03.09 | Technobliterator | I don't see why not |
| 22:03.11 | Xho | I gotta finish off my other stuff first |
| 22:03.23 | Xho | Kicathian Dissension for one |
| 22:03.35 | Xho | I think now making it an open collab was a bad idea |
| 22:03.50 | Wormy | I've got a lot of fiction to do, I can't get involved with a lot until I've done 50% of it at least |
| 22:03.53 | Xho | No offence to anyone but the whole Kicath matter and getting help sort of took away the personal feeling with it |
| 22:05.28 | Xho | I could continue it as a collab but I'll be constantly wondering whether it would have been better with just me doing it |
| 22:08.54 | Monet__ | It is an interesting question. But if you're not keen on collaboration right now then perhaps its for the best. |
| 22:09.02 | Monet__ | Its your story after all |
| 22:09.45 | Xho | The Kicathian Dissension would probably follow closer to Terminus' style if I did it all |
| 22:12.35 | Monet__ | I did like the style of that |
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| 22:28.21 | drom | 1 promille (0,001) of 287 billion sounds too much, eh? |
| 22:31.06 | Monet__ | drom: Is this how many supersoldiers you have? |
| 22:32.30 | Xho | http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN85S9-85-Inch-Ultra-120Hz/dp/B00CMEN95U/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?tag=epicp-20 Anyone got $40,000 I can spend? |
| 22:32.33 | drom | Literaly. |
| 22:33.18 | Xho | That's still 287,000,000 |
| 22:33.35 | Xho | Compared to the Kicath's 114,00 |
| 22:33.36 | Xho | bah |
| 22:33.38 | Xho | 114,000 |
| 22:33.46 | drom | Because a very large majority of the total poplution are military, but they have different shifts. |
| 22:34.21 | drom | 25-40% when on guard. |
| 22:34.36 | Xho | Jesus what |
| 22:34.41 | Monet__ | That's stil a lot of supersodliers. |
| 22:34.49 | drom | Indeed. |
| 22:34.59 | Xho | Imagine if there was 0.001% of the Kicath's population that were Agents |
| 22:35.30 | Xho | y'all just overkillin |
| 22:36.06 | drom | "Military, ground total: 329.32" |
| 22:36.14 | drom | Naakji - God, you are so pathetic. |
| 22:36.44 | Xho | Kicath - 211,000 systems and 1.56 quadrillion population covers it kthnxbai |
| 22:36.46 | drom | eh, it's millions. |
| 22:36.59 | Xho | Yeah 329 million |
| 22:37.36 | Xho | Should have a fiction of the Kicath Empire 20,000 years ago when they have 7.2 million systems |
| 22:38.57 | Xho | Though I have no use for it |
| 22:39.21 | Xho | Anyway I should go to sleep since I should have gone to sleep an hour ago |
| 22:39.30 | drom | Ewoks = Teddy bears |
| 22:40.55 | drom | Well. I'm going to reduce the amount. With 0,001x0,001 |
| 22:41.25 | Monet__ | Thinking about names, I think Dracid pronounce Uriel's name as "Ooh-rai-el" |
| 22:41.55 | drom | 287000 supers will it be. |
| 22:44.51 | drom | Damn, I'm bad at balancing. |
| 22:47.28 | drom | I get 100 millions using Kicath Remnant's ratio. |
| 22:47.55 | Monet__ | Well the Kicath do have a -lot- of poeple. And its not jsut Kicath either |
| 22:48.57 | drom | I used this formula: Amount of agents / Total ground soldiers |
| 22:49.35 | drom | And then I used it on the Naakji -literaly the whole population-. And that's what i have got. |
| 22:50.35 | drom | How many zeroes does a quadrilion to be exact? |
| 22:58.14 | drom | Screw it, it stays either as 100 milions or a fair amount of 287,000. |
| 22:58.29 | drom | G'night lads. |
| 23:12.23 | MasterMachine | ~test |
| 23:12.23 | infobot | well, test is not funny |
| 23:38.44 | DrodoEmpire | Stopped gaming a while ago. :P |
| 23:38.52 | DrodoEmpire | Need to check my nick more. >.< |
| 23:55.32 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 23:57.24 | Zillafire101 | Hello all. |
