| 00:00.58 | MasterMachine | Democracy isn't doing a very good job of it either you know. If democracy collapses into totalitatian government than what good is it? |
| 00:01.12 | Wormy | We can't all be happy but we should be sharing opposing ideas, criticising them to see if they work, etc. |
| 00:01.21 | Wormy | It may, but whether it will, is unknowable. |
| 00:01.23 | MasterMachine | It's good on paper... |
| 00:01.29 | Monet_ | Wormy: Agreed. We all need to communicate more |
| 00:01.37 | Vincent20100 | Personnally, I think the only acceptable road is a good old technocracy. |
| 00:01.42 | MasterMachine | Communication: the foundation of civilization |
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| 00:02.00 | MasterMachine | Yo Drodo |
| 00:02.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everone |
| 00:02.05 | DrodoEmpire | *everyone |
| 00:02.15 | MasterMachine | Democracy or Dictatorship? |
| 00:02.15 | Vincent20100 | People should not have their words to say about their personnal health. Only the doctors should. |
| 00:02.16 | Monet_ | Hi |
| 00:02.18 | Wormy | precisely that is my point, the conception I just shared is not a traditional idea of democracy, that is, enforcing the will of the majority |
| 00:02.34 | MasterMachine | Hmmmmmzes |
| 00:02.42 | MasterMachine | A true democracy would work I think. |
| 00:03.05 | DrodoEmpire | Preferably democracy if you can eliminate its inefficencies. |
| 00:03.07 | MasterMachine | Where everyone votes as a medatory law and there is no ruling party but rather a government that is truly "of the people" |
| 00:03.15 | DrodoEmpire | That's silly MM. |
| 00:03.16 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:03.19 | Vincent20100 | I don't think so. A democracy is just giving power to people in sectors they should not have power at all. |
| 00:03.22 | MasterMachine | *mandatory |
| 00:03.40 | MasterMachine | ... |
| 00:03.46 | MasterMachine | Anarchism for the win! |
| 00:03.47 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 00:04.03 | Vincent20100 | We would not allow a cook to built a bridge, neither a engineers to cook for a whole restaurant |
| 00:04.06 | Wormy | My political compass test landed me pretty close to anarchy :P |
| 00:04.07 | Monet_ | Democracy is about the right for thep ublic to elect representatives to speak on their behalf. |
| 00:04.21 | MasterMachine | That's a Republic |
| 00:04.35 | MasterMachine | Democracy is literally "ok everyone, throw in your vote, yes or no onthis law" |
| 00:04.51 | DrodoEmpire | I'd love to have a true "true democracy" but it doesn't work because you NEED central authority to maintain order. |
| 00:04.58 | Monet_ | "Republic" is a very broad term |
| 00:04.59 | MasterMachine | ... |
| 00:05.09 | Wormy | I'm not sure if I agree with anarchy at all though, deep down. As I said, the kind of society I like is a knowledge based one and doesn't try to sustain a static culture of way of life |
| 00:05.12 | MasterMachine | Someone invent a muthafucking group-mind system damnit! |
| 00:05.27 | Wormy | *or way of life |
| 00:05.28 | Monet_ | You have Federal Fepublics and Democratic Republics for instance |
| 00:05.29 | DrodoEmpire | Without one, how do you filter ridiculous requests? How do you coordinate law-enforcement/the military? |
| 00:05.31 | Vincent20100 | My political compass said I was a authoritarist far-leftist |
| 00:05.47 | DrodoEmpire | How does the adminstration work if there's no central government? |
| 00:06.09 | MasterMachine | BAAAAAH |
| 00:06.13 | MasterMachine | Governments are hard xD |
| 00:06.18 | DrodoEmpire | They are. |
| 00:06.18 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:06.29 | Monet_ | Which is why they can be really fragile at times |
| 00:06.52 | DrodoEmpire | Hence why humanity played "easy mode" for most of its existence and stuck to giving one dude all the power and saying "have fun" |
| 00:06.52 | TekDroid | There's a reason the bureaucracy ended up forming like it did. XD |
| 00:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | :P |
| 00:06.55 | Vincent20100 | Anyway Master, we have work to do |
| 00:07.10 | DrodoEmpire | Its a bad system but its easy to set up |
| 00:07.38 | Vincent20100 | Demantling the Drenmarr Republic at the end of the Capitalists corporations and the united Communist State isn't gonna do itself alone |
| 00:08.04 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 00:08.23 | Vincent20100 | LEt's play it as a Risk Game! |
| 00:08.35 | MasterMachine | Here's the system we need: "Group Mind" |
| 00:08.41 | Vincent20100 | The Popular Republic attacks the East Sector! |
| 00:09.15 | MasterMachine | The reason this would work is 'cause everyone would basically be the same superorganism so hurting people would be a form of self-injurt and would inform everyone of the issue. |
| 00:09.24 | Wormy | I think, though I'm out of my depth here, in a knowledge-based conception of democracy, the authority could be a tradition of criticism, like peer review in science. Its an not really an authority in a traditional sense, as the tradition of criticism could change should a rival form of criticism outdo it, and if not, it has survived it |
| 00:09.28 | Monet_ | Isn't that a hive mind? |
| 00:09.33 | Monet_ | Machine? |
| 00:09.43 | Vincent20100 | Hive mind is nice |
| 00:09.50 | MasterMachine | Nope, cause everyone would still be independent as thinking beings, just linked together. |
| 00:09.52 | Monet_ | Thing abotu the group mind is it gets rid of the middleman. |
| 00:10.01 | MasterMachine | Like how a computer network isn't a single computer. |
| 00:10.10 | Monet_ | But that doesn't make the government any less chaotic |
| 00:10.12 | Wormy | My epistemology is more focused on science than politics, so yeah I am out of my depth here |
| 00:10.30 | Wormy | epistemology - philosophy of knowledge |
| 00:10.32 | MasterMachine | It makes government unneeded, because everyone knows what everyone needs/wants, and can meet the need. |
| 00:10.33 | Monet_ | MasterMachine: COmputers are pure rationality though |
| 00:10.45 | MasterMachine | Because pain/suffering is shared, all people would care about others for their own good. |
| 00:11.11 | MasterMachine | Sort of like a perfected communism, except in a true "group mind" people can still hide their thoughts and opinions. |
| 00:11.16 | MasterMachine | So invention can still exist. |
| 00:12.05 | Vincent20100 | "Trusting doesn't prevent from checking, comrades." -KGB motto |
| 00:14.34 | DrodoGaming | Dunno what I'll be playing quite eyt |
| 00:14.36 | DrodoGaming | *yet |
| 00:14.37 | DrodoGaming | :P |
| 00:14.42 | TekDroid | lol |
| 00:14.47 | TekDroid | O.o |
| 00:14.53 | TekDroid | ...wat. |
| 00:14.53 | Wormy | You could have a communality, the next step above a hive mind... A communality is to consciousness what consciousness is to very simple reactions |
| 00:14.57 | SP2Jackal | SP2 was too powerful. D: |
| 00:14.59 | SP2Jackal | ;-; |
| 00:15.35 | Wormy | A communality would think that humans are very strange, simple things with their war and arguments |
| 00:17.19 | Wormy | http://www.xenology.info/Xeno/14.2.3.htm |
| 00:20.28 | Monet_ | If I recall, arguments and war are like schitzophrenia or condcuting self-harm to a communality |
| 00:20.43 | Wormy | indeed |
| 00:21.20 | MasterMachine | I like the idea of a communality, that's what I mean when I say Group Mind |
| 00:23.31 | Monet_ | I tried experimenting with a communality with the Theian Technocracy |
| 00:23.58 | Wormy | Some parts of the Civilisation might be communal |
| 00:24.28 | Monet_ | I remember a non-canon engagement between Hachi and Develani where she got him to "feel" the presence of an embryo. |
| 00:24.34 | MasterMachine | The Union of Mecholife is semi-communal - it still has internal conflict. |
| 00:25.12 | MasterMachine | #SchitzophrenicMachineEmpire, what could possibly go wrong? xD |
| 00:25.35 | Wormy | It must be on its way. Reminds me of the Star Maker, there was this alien planet with bird swarm intelligences that fought memetic wars to consume each other |
| 00:26.33 | Wormy | you wouldn't believethis book was from 1937 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Maker |
| 00:26.35 | MasterMachine | Would a communality develope a singlular mind that is made up of the entirety? |
| 00:26.58 | Wormy | I like to think a communality as something emergent above consciousness |
| 00:26.59 | Vincent20100 | Pure gore is allowed for war-fiction? |
| 00:27.14 | Wormy | Yeah |
| 00:27.25 | Wormy | Attero Dominatus lol |
| 00:27.31 | Vincent20100 | Because honestly, I don't think we should hide our face away from what war really is. |
| 00:27.52 | Vincent20100 | I love hanging people and torturing officers for informations. ^^ |
| 00:28.02 | MasterMachine | ^Is Afriad |
| 00:28.04 | MasterMachine | :P |
| 00:28.09 | Monet_ | Tortureing for information is BS. |
| 00:28.19 | Vincent20100 | The drowning simulation is very effective |
| 00:28.23 | MasterMachine | Better to just use a computer virus lol |
| 00:28.34 | Wormy | The DCP (my fiction), has a variety of creative punishments for conquered races |
| 00:28.45 | Vincent20100 | Cool... |
| 00:29.00 | Vincent20100 | But I only punishes the enemies' pops. |
| 00:29.12 | Wormy | Aeo called me a sadist after reading it, which was probably an over-reaction |
| 00:29.17 | Vincent20100 | Once they are mine, they are mine and I protect them ^^ |
| 00:29.27 | Vincent20100 | Send me the link |
| 00:29.53 | Wormy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets#Conquered_races_-_Civilizations_the_DCP_attacked |
| 00:30.15 | Monet_ | MasterMachine: The best way to describe a communality is that while we, who are self-aware intelligences, can understand the sensations within our own bodies and can feel when something is wrong, a communal mind does that for a group |
| 00:31.35 | Wormy | that's actually very old, the list of the DCP's wars (which are often cruel if in retaliation) isn't even complete http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/History/Development#History_of_notable_wars_and_conflicts |
| 00:31.35 | Monet_ | The internet, international forums and democracy are helping us proceed towards a communal society, but we're not quite there yet |
| 00:33.58 | Wormy | We need ever more complex languages to fill the complexity barrier. Brains are very lonely things when you think about them |
| 00:34.15 | Hachiman | https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10563143_376145509199453_255525027063170596_n.png |
| 00:34.45 | Wormy | I used to have grey version of that |
| 00:35.40 | Monet_ | In communalities, phrases like "are you hurt?" may become obsolete because one does nto need to ask. |
| 00:35.51 | Monet_ | THey can work out though the communal connection |
| 00:36.03 | Wormy | You never need to ask your cells if they are damaged |
| 00:36.38 | Wormy | Thats given me a thought |
| 00:37.15 | Wormy | Cephalodian awareness, must very alien, given the fact they have cellular communication at such fidelity they can program their native biosphere |
| 00:37.45 | Wormy | thats possible because the Ceph biosphere evolved from runaway bio-nanotech |
| 00:38.38 | Monet_ | I'm starting to imagine now that members of a communality may have less vocal conversations. Why say you love someone or ask for some medical support when members of your communality can work it out by being in your presence? |
| 00:39.00 | Wormy | But their awareness must run deeper than ours, perhaps less into the joys of intellectual highs but the depth of cells and biology |
| 00:40.06 | Vincent20100 | Wait a sec |
| 00:40.18 | Vincent20100 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic#The_aftermath |
| 00:40.39 | Vincent20100 | HEre is what happened to the first large enemies of the Algolurn Popular Republic. |
| 00:40.52 | Wormy | Monet: Notice how all the spheres contain reflections of each other, every part contained and reflected in every other http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b3/c6/66/b3c666150472f7f1a9ebeadee4e13d58.jpg |
| 00:41.11 | Wormy | Thats by Escher btw |
| 00:42.04 | Vincent20100 | I particularly enjoyed the "bar-b-cue" of Temple Prime. |
| 00:42.09 | Monet_ | I remember that picture but never quite understood it |
| 00:43.46 | Wormy | Douglas Hofstader compares it to Indras Net, or the renormalisation of particles (where every particle as a virtual one, and every virtual one, ad infinitum) |
| 00:45.07 | Monet_ | Looking back, yeah, I think I indicated that Develani felt a comfort being around Gerden that I had trouble putting into words. |
| 00:45.43 | Wormy | yeah |
| 00:45.58 | Wormy | I have difficulty describing Cephalodian awareness the same way |
| 00:46.25 | Wormy | Though now I have that idea |
| 00:47.09 | Monet_ | This might be a real-world phenomenon but I described that across oen night she felt so safe she completely forgot about the DOmain's political troubles and the Fireweaver threat. it sort-of temporarily vanished form her mind as she sat on a sofa with Gerden's arm resting on her shoulders. |
| 00:47.36 | Monet_ | In a hug |
| 00:48.16 | Wormy | Interesting section Vincent |
| 00:48.39 | Monet_ | Bear in mind that for a good dea lof the story she was getting some very disturbing psychic flashes burned into her brain. |
| 00:48.59 | Monet_ | Thanks to some form of Fireweaver intelligence. |
| 00:49.22 | Vincent20100 | I love fire |
| 00:49.26 | Vincent20100 | Fire is nice |
| 00:49.34 | Vincent20100 | IIt is red like the Revolution |
| 00:49.40 | Vincent20100 | And it purge |
| 00:49.52 | Vincent20100 | It purge the world from evil! |
| 00:50.08 | Vincent20100 | So... the enemies' planets shall BURN!!!! |
| 00:50.16 | Wormy | puts it out with a hose |
| 00:51.42 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 00:51.57 | Monet_ | That's one way of looking at fire |
| 00:53.13 | Vincent20100 | cracks a match. |
| 00:53.25 | Monet_ | blows it out |
| 00:53.40 | Monet_ | You're not supposed to play with matches |
| 00:53.50 | DrodoGaming | ^ |
| 00:53.52 | MasterMachine | -locates his flamerthrower- |
| 00:53.57 | MasterMachine | I can play with thing right? |
| 00:53.57 | DrodoGaming | No match-playing for you! |
| 00:54.04 | MasterMachine | 8this |
| 00:54.39 | Monet_ | DrodoGaming: So logn as you point it at zombies yeah |
| 00:55.13 | DrodoGaming | (I meant it to be for Vincent. XD) |
| 00:55.21 | Vincent20100 | Matches are safe. What's the worst that could happen? |
| 00:55.26 | Vincent20100 | Evil laught. |
| 00:55.31 | DrodoGaming | looks at BC wildfires |
| 00:56.02 | Vincent20100 | These damn trees searched for it! |
| 00:56.33 | Vincent20100 | Look how close they planted themselves to my matches! |
| 00:57.55 | Monet_ | I remember some British Public Information Cartoons that showed critters lighting matches, reacting to the heat of the flame, dropping the match and setting fire t othe whole city they lived in |
| 00:58.22 | DrodoGaming | That's pretty dark. |
| 00:58.38 | DrodoGaming | Like, darker than Canada's PSAs; That's really saying something. |
| 00:59.28 | Monet_ | It might help that in one of the films the critters were insects and one of them foudn am atchstick almost as big as he was. |
| 00:59.49 | Monet_ | I think brits may be...kinda famous for dar kPSAs |
| 00:59.59 | DrodoGaming | Right. XD |
| 01:01.51 | Hachiman | I remember there was a PSA about trains once. A family were strolling across a field and playing "I Spy", and the daughter said "I spy with my little eye something beginning with T!" It was all bright and cheery with the family trying to guess, until the girl stepped onto a railroad track, Cue the screen cutting to black and the sound of a train wooshing by, with the caption "Always look out for trains on railroads." |
| 01:01.56 | Monet_ | There's an infamous one for speed control. The message is (from a child) "if you hit me at 40 there's a n80% vahnce i'll die, if you hit me at 30, there's an 80% chance I'll live" to a video of an 8-year-old-girl's roadside corpse dragging itself int othe middle of the road, compelte with bones cracking and snapping back into place and getting up before cheerfully smiling to the camera. |
| 01:02.28 | DrodoGaming | o.o |
| 01:02.43 | DrodoGaming | Christ almighty that's terrifying. |
| 01:03.34 | Monet_ | I think I might have heard abotu that train one |
| 01:04.03 | Monet_ | After getting back up I think the girl skipped away |
| 01:06.12 | Monet_ | Some of our adverts can be wierd too. |
| 01:07.25 | Wormy | Or the eye-spy train advert that looks like the family assassinated their child |
| 01:08.08 | Wormy | Oh, and there is this old one XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1GJO5n7wxM |
| 01:08.33 | Monet_ | This talk reminds me of one for Buoirsan cheese. You had a couple running though a meadow, giddily in love, they set up a picnic, its all bright and sunny and a narrator goes though what they have with them: "Du pain, du (something), Du boirsan", then the camera pans up to see a combine harvester chopping up the field and appoachign the group to the title "du tracteur" then the ad ends. |
| 01:09.04 | Monet_ | A snap to black |
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| 01:12.02 | Monet_ | This talk reminds me of one for Buoirsan cheese. You had a couple running though a meadow, giddily in love, they set up a picnic, its all bright and sunny and a narrator goes though what they have with them: "Du pain, du (something), Du boirsan", then the camera pans up to see a combine harvester chopping up the field and appoachign the group to the title "du tracteur" then the ad ends. |
| 01:12.15 | Monet_ | Didn't know if you caught that |
| 01:12.24 | DrodoEmpire | I did, thanks |
| 01:13.03 | Monet_ | Oh, just remembered another possibly dark UK PSA |
| 01:13.40 | Wormy | Take Longer To Look For Bikes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ3OMtMsj78 |
| 01:14.42 | Monet_ | We see a guy drinking several botles of beer. He then starts ripping his clothes, puking in a toilet, breaking his own ribs, giving himself a black eye and smashing the bottles in his face before staggering out the front door. The tagline? "You wouldn't start a night like this, so why end it like it?" |
| 01:14.42 | Wormy | There's a radio version at the moment with a condesending voice talking about the family falling apart after their relative was killed on a bike, then it says "But then you never looked" or something like that |
| 01:15.27 | Wormy | Yeah but all that is incredibly funny in the drunk-mode of thinking, is my response |
| 01:15.38 | Monet_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.44 | Wormy | lol |
| 01:15.59 | Monet_ | I heard that not long after, people started getting "pre-wasted" |
| 01:16.32 | Monet_ | So they were effectively drunk out of their minds the moment they met their friends |
| 01:16.41 | Wormy | My mum said in her day there were very frightening adverts put on TV of kids drowing in quarries and the like, to warn kids away from dangerous places, and they were quite scary |
| 01:17.12 | AdmiralPanda | the one thing I find funny about Australia's drinking problem is that anyone with half a mind knows exactly where it came from |
| 01:18.35 | Wormy | Here we go, 70s public info films to still fear into the hearts of children https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0xmSV6aq0g |
| 01:18.52 | Monet_ | The PSA: Government approved scare-the-absolute-shit out of you in the name of education. |
| 01:19.28 | AdmiralPanda | by the way Monet_: How true is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US92PR1tI1o ? |
| 01:20.31 | Wormy | OHGOD |
| 01:20.50 | Wormy | Public info film had that pedo whats his name in it |
| 01:20.58 | Wormy | Jimmy Saville |
| 01:22.11 | Monet_ | SOme bits are accurate - it didn't gain its reputation as a spreadsheet game for nothing. Although his assumption of combat seems to neglect stuff like warp scramblers (which prevent you from retreating when everything does go tits-up), energy siphons and drones. |
| 01:22.32 | AdmiralPanda | he doesn't play anything very long so it's entirely possible he doesn't even know those exist |
| 01:23.12 | Wormy | 70s ones were very graphic |
| 01:23.13 | Monet_ | Probably. No rats within high-sec space have that kind of fancy stuff. |
| 01:23.41 | Monet_ | And if you want to get anywhere in New Eden, find a corp. |
| 01:24.09 | AdmiralPanda | Yahtzee does hate people so it's no surprise he wasn't interested in those either :P |
| 01:24.14 | Monet_ | Production of the expensive-yet-very-high-in-demeand Tech Two ships requires a starbase and moon mining, which requires a corporation. |
| 01:25.05 | Monet_ | Oh there are corps that exist purely to spend as much time as they can ruining everyone else's day. |
| 01:26.54 | AdmiralPanda | reminds me of this one guild back when I played Eudemons Online |
| 01:27.15 | AdmiralPanda | basically all they did was pitch tents and camp just outside of the guards' attack radius in pvp hotspots and murder people |
| 01:28.44 | Monet_ | And the thing with "signature analysis and signature focus": It tells you in the skillbook what it improves, some skills exist only so you can be eligible to get a bunch of new skills and many skills exist that do nothing to your combad formidability |
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| 01:29.43 | Monet_ | Although he's spot on with "coming down with a seriosu case of flow charts"; a lot of serious players likely play EVE with Exel open in the background. |
| 01:30.41 | Tybusen | So I've gotten up to Episode 18 of NGE |
| 01:31.05 | Tybusen | I think I'm definitely in the part where things getting weird |
| 01:31.09 | Monet_ | One of my relatives played EVE for a bit and he placed post-it notes everywhere around his desk listing prices, trends, manufacturing profit margins or whatever. |
| 01:31.24 | Monet_ | Tybusen: It will only get even more wierd from then on in |
| 01:31.44 | Tybusen | I know that Episode 22 has the infamous mind rape scene |
| 01:32.30 | Wormy | slinky of escalator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIPK2NQ85Fc |
| 01:32.45 | Tybusen | The show seems light enough up until you get to the 12th Angel |
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| 01:33.05 | Tybusen | That's where Hideki Anno's depression really started shining through to me |
| 01:34.08 | Wormy | bye |
| 01:34.13 | AdmiralPanda | this is just me, but the moment a game requires you to go third party, intentionally or not, it's lost something |
| 01:35.43 | Monet_ | EVE probably wouldn't work without a playerbase. |
| 01:36.50 | AdmiralPanda | I think you mean spreadsheets |
| 01:36.51 | Monet_ | Its the player-driven economy: Other players make and sell the guns, ships, ammo, modules and bulkhead wallpaper you will constantly be buying. |
| 01:36.55 | AdmiralPanda | no game works without a player base :P |
| 01:37.10 | Monet_ | No players = no items prettymuch |
| 01:38.27 | Monet_ | And those thousands of tonnes of mined space rock won't go anywhere unless someone is looking to buy several tonnes of space rock |
| 01:39.58 | AdmiralPanda | or unless someone ejects it and uses it in a gravity-based troll weapon |
| 01:40.04 | AdmiralPanda | wait that's Space Engineers |
| 01:40.28 | AdmiralPanda | the game where rock has exactly two uses: reactor components and trolling people |
| 01:41.45 | Monet_ | In regards t o"bored bored bored eyestrain", my solution is multitasking. |
| 01:41.54 | Cuttlefish_ | How come so many of you are awake? It's like 2 in the morning in UK right now. |
| 01:42.03 | Monet_ | We're night owls |
| 01:42.36 | Monet_ | When I went on a mining mission I'd also have photoshop of paint tool SAI open t owork on some art |
| 01:44.00 | Monet_ | Actualyl come to think of it, the kicking shins analogy couldn't eb more accurate. |
| 01:44.17 | AdmiralPanda | cuttlefish_: It's midday here |
| 01:44.45 | Monet_ | Without special devices the variance of combat is "target enemy then turn on autoattack and wait until it exlodes" |
| 01:44.49 | Monet_ | explodes* |
| 01:45.20 | Monet_ | Or with the right skills you can target as many as six objects at once. |
| 01:49.02 | Monet_ | "Just one decent alien race would have livened things up" > Yeah that's the other thing about EVE, the lcosest we get to sapient alien intelligence is a bunch of humans who gene modded themselves to - and I am not killding here - the creation of a disease specific to them that leads to irreversably losing the will to live. |
| 01:49.54 | Monet_ | The jove quite literally depressed themselves to near-extinction. |
| 01:50.51 | Hachiman | So EVE is edgy Star Trek |
| 01:51.32 | Monet_ | I'd say it's the halfway point between Star Trek and Warhammer 40,000 minus alien civilisations |
| 01:52.55 | Monet_ | For instance there's Sansha's Nation, who raid planets and abduct peope by dispersing nanomachines into the air that hijack the bodies of the local population and lead them into abduction ships. |
| 01:53.18 | Hachiman | MassEffect2.jpg |
| 01:53.40 | Monet_ | All the while the poor victims are fully aware of where they are going. |
| 01:53.55 | AdmiralPanda | brb |
| 01:54.06 | Monet_ | They essentially walk into the abduction ships. |
| 01:54.28 | Vincent20100 | Just wrote down the first battle of the Upstarts Wars |
| 01:54.53 | Vincent20100 | All ended up as a big brazier. |
| 01:55.24 | Vincent20100 | Defenceless planet = planet-wide brazier. ^^ |
| 01:55.41 | Monet_ | Theere is also the Caldari State which is supposed to be Space Japan - the side that emphasises duty, honour and money isntead of anime and waifus. |
| 01:56.03 | Vincent20100 | Tentacles? |
| 01:56.58 | Monet_ | In the Caldari State, being supremel efficient at your job is a massive turn-on for others. |
| 01:57.50 | Monet_ | If you want entertainment look to the Gallente Federation, who manage ot be both carefree, lewd and absolutely terrifying. |
| 01:59.39 | Monet_ | Al lthe Galente want to do is express their freedoms; strip clubs, movies, tv, tourism etc. But threaten the Federation itself and these hedonists will STOP. AT.NTOHING. Until every offender is 6ft underground or floating aimlessly in space as a human lolly. |
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| 02:00.09 | Zmr56 | Lotsa people on at this time |
| 02:00.15 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 02:01.18 | Monet_ | Actually it's best to say that all four of the NPC empires are decent to live in but they all have their extreme dark sides. |
| 02:02.43 | Monet_ | For Caldari being fired may as well equal death, for Gallente they obsess over the latest crazes and are currently undergoing an authoritarian revolution with a new secret police, the Amarr are extremely zealous, religious policy is law and they're the biggest slave-owning empire. |
| 02:03.39 | Monet_ | And the Minmatar you must be constantly on the alert for either Amarrian slavers or avoiding pissing off too many of your own nation because Minmatar are the most aggressive of the three thanks to the Amarr |
| 02:03.46 | Monet_ | of the four* |
| 02:06.03 | Monet_ | So its closer t o40K only everything hasn't *completely* gne down the shitter and there's no great universal threat ot all of intelligent life |
| 02:07.57 | Monet_ | That's probably what separates it from Mass Effect or Warhammer: The four empires are more likely to be fighting themselves than a great threat to all existence. |
| 02:08.07 | Monet_ | fighting each other ,rather |
| 02:08.18 | Monet_ | We've already had a second Caldari-Gallente War |
| 02:09.12 | Hachiman | Sounds quite boring |
| 02:09.38 | Monet_ | And the Amarr won't stop raiding Minmatar colonies until either they gey a severe punch in the face by the Gallente Federation or the Minmatar once again become a salve race |
| 02:09.38 | Hachiman | All humans with just ever so slight variety analogous to real world nations with absolutely zero aliens |
| 02:10.07 | Monet_ | Well there are alien lifeforms, but nothing that could craft a civilisation. |
| 02:10.52 | Monet_ | Actually there are the Rogue Drones - a group of Gallente AI drones that golitched and became an ever-expanding self replicating swarm. |
| 02:12.08 | Monet_ | I wouldn't call them a great universal threat because the drones themselves, being Gallente inventions, aren't invincible to contemporary weaponry. |
| 02:12.50 | Monet_ | TbF most of the interesting stuff is what the palyer coprorations are doing |
| 02:14.36 | Monet_ | No major battle in the history of mankind involved over 80 of the largest possible ships plus 2000+ other vessels was caused by someone not paying rent! |
| 02:20.18 | Monet_ | Anyway goodnight |
| 02:20.18 | TekDroid | O.o |
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| 03:31.41 | MasterMachine | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU adobe -_- |
| 03:41.22 | Vincent20100 | If you see typos, feel free to correct them |
| 03:41.53 | Vincent20100 | I will transform my sections tomorow, must go to bed now |
| 03:41.56 | TekDroid | Mastermachine: Always save your work. |
| 03:42.10 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 03:42.19 | Vincent20100 | This war... |
| 03:42.28 | Vincent20100 | It is the beginning of something |
| 03:42.29 | MasterMachine | It doesn't affect my writing, but it does screw with the IRC for some reason. |
| 03:42.32 | Vincent20100 | Something bigger... |
| 03:42.35 | Vincent20100 | A lot bigger... |
| 03:42.36 | MasterMachine | And pretty much all of my fun stuff :( |
| 03:42.39 | MasterMachine | lol Vincent |
| 03:43.12 | MasterMachine | Oh, Vincent, I'm building the Drenmarr Republic page right now |
| 03:43.15 | MasterMachine | WHEEEEE |
| 03:43.26 | Vincent20100 | I wrote my part as an HISTORY book while you wrote it as an STORY book... |
| 03:43.30 | Vincent20100 | Nice! |
| 03:46.58 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 03:47.23 | MasterMachine | Someone, quick, link me to a Tier 3 civ tech page so I can "borrow" all of their techs. (j/k o/c) |
| 03:54.34 | MasterMachine | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drenmarr_Republic - I think this is the smallest fictionon the wiki xD |
| 04:14.46 | MasterMachine | Nght |
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| 08:31.48 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 08:35.37 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 08:43.25 | AdmiralPanda | well, time to go torture myself with FTL again |
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| 09:29.41 | Wormy | hi |
| 09:30.29 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:37.44 | Wormy | fish listner http://phys.org/news/2014-08-disquieting-malaysia-fish.html |
| 09:40.43 | Wormy | Dreamsprawler https://devart.withgoogle.com/#/project/17440244 |
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| 11:17.58 | Wormy | game based on audio instead of graphics http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28757186 |
| 11:18.01 | Wormy | hi |
| 11:20.26 | Monet_ | G'day |
| 11:23.21 | Wormy | Top of the morning |
| 11:23.26 | Wormy | to you |
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| 12:40.14 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:51.29 | Monet_ | tis quiet this morning |
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| 13:33.43 | Monet_ | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathWorld I got bored and so I added something to Web Original |
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| 13:48.47 | drom | hai |
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| 14:24.04 | WoodPulp | Well I got a good conversation started the last time I asked this question: How's the weather? |
| 14:24.08 | Monet_ | AdmiralPanda: SOmething bugs me about XCOM's arc thrower...what about using a taser gun? |
| 14:26.23 | AdmiralPanda | it's better |
| 14:26.30 | AdmiralPanda | the arc thrower I mean |
| 14:26.42 | Monet_ | I suppose by being tsered you're still conscious |
| 14:27.02 | AdmiralPanda | it's sufficiently more effective than a taser that law enforcement agencies around the world request examples to reverse engineer |
| 14:27.25 | Monet_ | I remember the kind of random mission you can get. |
| 14:28.56 | WoodPulp | RANDOM QUESTION: has anyone here ever played Sanctum 2? |
| 14:29.16 | Monet_ | Not me |
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| 14:29.46 | MasterMachine | Hello. |
| 14:29.55 | AdmiralPanda | played it, didn't enjoy it that much |
| 14:30.27 | AdmiralPanda | you can get exactly the same experience from a 2d flash game, and I didn't enjoy it for exactly that reason |
| 14:30.45 | MasterMachine | Enjoy what? |
| 14:31.00 | AdmiralPanda | Sanctum 2 |
| 14:31.15 | MasterMachine | Ah |
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| 14:31.59 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 14:33.24 | MasterMachine | Hello |
| 14:33.46 | AdmiralPanda | dum where's Hachiman when you need him |
| 14:36.02 | MasterMachine | I love my pink spice planets... |
| 14:36.28 | MasterMachine | 360 spice per house |
| 14:36.31 | MasterMachine | *hour |
| 14:36.32 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 14:36.37 | MasterMachine | I wish it was per house |
| 14:43.04 | Monet_ | AdmiralPanda: I guess another good reason t ouse the arc thrower is if the enemy is uncosncious, they'll have a header time figuring out where XCOm's base is |
| 14:43.27 | Monet_ | Then again post-mission cleanup is never shown so maybe they're put in bodybags |
| 14:45.12 | WoodPulp | Dear person who decided to pay for $15 worth of gas with a $100 dollar bill: Could you not? Sincerely, WoodPulp |
| 14:48.28 | MasterMachine | xD |
| 14:49.57 | WoodPulp | So a lot of the change is 5's and 10's cause i ran out of 20's and the guy's all like "Woah that's a lot of change" |
| 14:50.30 | WoodPulp | and i'm like "Yeah, that's what happens when you give me a hundred for 15 dollars of gas |
| 14:51.14 | Monet_ | I am questioninng what you are doing with a $100 bill on you while buying petrol |
| 14:55.22 | WoodPulp | Me too |
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| 14:57.57 | Wormy | hi |
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| 14:58.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, everyone |
| 14:58.36 | WoodPulp | Hello! |
| 14:58.42 | DrodoEmpire | Hi! |
| 14:58.44 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 14:59.23 | Monet_ | Hello |
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| 15:08.50 | MasterMachine_ | I hate it when firefox and adobe decide "we're just gonna use ALL the memory" |
| 15:08.52 | MasterMachine_ | -_- |
| 15:09.17 | MasterMachine_ | Between the two they had 3.5gig of my 5gig system xD |
| 15:09.21 | MasterMachine_ | So |
| 15:09.27 | MasterMachine_ | When did all these people get here? |
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| 15:46.16 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
| 15:47.01 | OluapPlayer | randum |
| 15:48.22 | AdmiralPanda | hi u |
| 15:50.28 | Monet_ | Hi |
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| 15:55.06 | Monet__ | One thing that was pointed out in NC's review of the original Transformers franchise: If Starscream takes every opportunity he gets to betray Megatron and take over, how did he last for so long? |
| 15:55.36 | MasterMachine_ | His raw evil protected him? |
| 15:55.52 | The_Randomness | Plot convenience? |
| 15:56.31 | MasterMachine_ | Rule of Cool? |
| 15:56.34 | Monet__ | My theory is that he serves as the perfect scapegoat when Megatron's plans go tits-up |
| 15:56.50 | Monet__ | Megatron blames him and punishes him |
| 15:56.59 | Monet__ | Even if its not entirely his fault |
| 15:57.12 | MasterMachine_ | So he jeeps him around to be the buttmonkey? |
| 15:57.43 | Monet__ | Yeah |
| 15:58.58 | MasterMachine_ | So, I've found a colony that buys Purple Spice for the max pricee and I'm just going to and from my two PSP colonies and that colony selling it to them |
| 15:59.00 | MasterMachine_ | lol |
| 15:59.23 | MasterMachine_ | I get a full load of like 60 or so from the two colonies then make around 2mil Sporebucks |
| 15:59.31 | MasterMachine_ | #TooLazyForMissions |
| 16:00.39 | Monet__ | It might also expain why Starscream is constantly trying to usurp him |
| 16:03.47 | AdmiralPanda | Monet__: My understanding of it is that Starscream is actually a worthy second in command, just with a nasty habit of backstabbing |
| 16:04.29 | Monet__ | AdmiralPanda: The first episode kinda does cement that Megatron doesn't think he deserves it, but Megatron can also be a massive asshole at times |
| 16:05.32 | AdmiralPanda | In some continuities he's definitely good at what he does, in others he's a complete butt monkey |
| 16:08.21 | Monet__ | Sounds like a case of longrunningfranchiseconsistencyitis. |
| 16:08.44 | AdmiralPanda | that kinda happens when writers change |
| 16:09.21 | AdmiralPanda | also I think I've found an anime Hachi might like |
| 16:11.30 | Monet__ | Yeah? |
| 16:12.18 | AdmiralPanda | it's called Infinite Stratos, it's sort of a weird mix of mecha and harem genres (not hentai, mind you), but one you get over the initial awkwardness it's surprisingly engaging |
| 16:12.49 | AdmiralPanda | the reason I say Hachi might like it is it's basically Hachiman in a mech school with four girls competing for his attention |
| 16:13.06 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 16:13.15 | AdmiralPanda | the mechs are pretty badass though |
| 16:13.29 | Monet__ | "mech school" |
| 16:13.44 | AdmiralPanda | mech pilot school |
| 16:14.38 | Monet__ | Right, right. Though I will be forever confounded by the Japanese obsession with adult/teen anime and school. |
| 16:14.59 | The_Randomness | I HOPE SENPAI NOTICES ME |
| 16:15.25 | The_Randomness | That's a lot of animes in a nutshell, right? |
| 16:15.44 | AdmiralPanda | romance ones at least |
| 16:16.30 | Monet__ | Teen anime I can understand, the West has its own genre of high school drama. |
| 16:16.39 | Monet__ | But adult anime is what confounds me |
| 16:18.55 | Monet__ | Hell shows like Full Metal Panic seem like universes that could possibly work (I've never actually seen a whole episode) but they still focus on school settings. |
| 16:24.05 | Monet__ | They could have done like A Town Called Eureka and stuck the protagonist's focus in a mock town that doubled as the site of a government think-tank |
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| 16:58.37 | OfficerJackal | Huh, aparrently people are getting upset about this girl named Zoe Quinn, and how she fucked a couple of indie developers and I think a game journalist for positive reviews and feedback? I dunno, it kinda seems like a clusterfuck to me. :| |
| 17:01.14 | OluapPlayer | I've heard that name today |
| 17:01.18 | OluapPlayer | But I know nothing more about it |
| 17:02.42 | OfficerJackal | Yeah, things like /r/gaming are going apeshit about it, this one post on it with like 16.k comments had all the comments deleted with auto-delete by the mods, and the censorship on the matter is aparrently happning on other sub-reddits/sites too. |
| 17:03.00 | OfficerJackal | 16.4k* |
| 17:03.40 | OfficerJackal | Even 4chan for a short time before the mods just gave up. |
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| 17:05.26 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 17:06.00 | Xho | u |
| 17:06.11 | Xho | I think I know what to give Hachi for his birthday |
| 17:06.18 | Xho | I'm gonna do a Crux remake for him and see if he likes it |
| 17:06.30 | OluapPlayer | keep it Zazane-like pls |
| 17:06.38 | OluapPlayer | Also http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140819154306/spore/images/9/97/Fantasy_Loron%27Kikra.png updated Shiarchon jesters |
| 17:07.02 | Xho | dis gud update |
| 17:07.06 | Xho | u get nuthin 4 it |
| 17:07.07 | Xho | top kek |
| 17:07.20 | OluapPlayer | u complimented it and dat enuff |
| 17:07.21 | OluapPlayer | lul |
| 17:07.31 | Xho | Touché |
| 17:09.36 | OluapPlayer | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/730/746/a9b.png |
| 17:18.41 | Xho | JERKPERT |
| 17:28.11 | MasterMachine_ | ~test |
| 17:28.12 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, test is not funny |
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| 17:58.52 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140819175820/spore/images/6/6d/XhoCrux.png fuk ur zazane |
| 18:01.03 | OluapPlayer | dum |
| 18:09.25 | Xho | u dum |
| 18:12.17 | tcm | wow |
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| 18:13.48 | drom | hurp durp |
| 18:13.54 | Sporeraptor | hi |
| 18:20.15 | Xho | Where's Impy when you need him |
| 18:20.55 | OluapPlayer | With his waifu |
| 18:21.02 | MasterMachine_ | explodes |
| 18:25.53 | Monet_ | Xho: That Crux looks nicely frightening and primal |
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| 18:56.12 | tcm | how did you get that glossy black look |
| 18:56.12 | Xho | OluapPlayer: âBASEDâ - Kebra'Osos |
| 18:56.14 | Xho | Made me laugh |
| 18:56.24 | Xho | TCM: Skin texture |
| 18:57.36 | Xho | I have a feeling Hachi is away on Steam |
| 18:57.37 | Xho | much |
| 18:59.54 | Xho | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10612807_2293120177409887_3936263915015841252_n.jpg |
| 19:00.33 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 19:01.48 | Monet_ | You hand tell because he always has Spore running |
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| 19:01.51 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 19:03.01 | Sporeraptor | hello |
| 19:22.35 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140819192140/spore/images/3/30/ForestElemental.png Made Forest Elementals |
| 19:22.58 | Monet_ | That's pretty realistic |
| 19:25.04 | OluapPlayer | I am groot etc |
| 19:26.32 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AElemental This page needs a serious serious rework |
| 19:27.11 | Sporeraptor | The Forest Elemental looks incredible |
| 19:30.29 | Xho | I imagine some the oldest forest elementals are absolutely gigantic |
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| 19:31.35 | The_Randomness | Hello everyone |
| 19:31.40 | Xho | Hello |
| 19:31.52 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140819192140/spore/images/3/30/ForestElemental.png I made walking tree |
| 19:35.09 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental Now we need to up the ante with this page |
| 19:36.21 | Xho | The creations are, with a pinch of salt, super goofy |
| 19:36.38 | Xho | Like, stereotypical Spore goofy |
| 19:37.57 | Monet_ | Yeah they could do with a massive touchup |
| 19:38.26 | Xho | The entire page needs a massive touchup I think |
| 19:38.30 | Xho | Who's gonna do it then hur |
| 19:39.21 | Xho | ...It's gonna be me isn't it |
| 19:39.56 | OluapPlayer | Yes hur |
| 19:42.23 | Xho | dam u |
| 19:42.54 | drom | âtest |
| 19:43.03 | Xho | ur a test |
| 19:43.09 | drom | urgh, I can't get this tilde on mac |
| 19:43.12 | Xho | @ |
| 19:43.15 | Xho | I mean |
| 19:43.16 | Xho | ~ |
| 19:43.19 | Xho | ~~ |
| 19:43.22 | Xho | ~~~~~ |
| 19:43.22 | infobot | grrrr |
| 19:43.25 | Xho | Heh |
| 19:43.26 | Xho | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 19:43.26 | infobot | ~~~~~~~~~~~ are YOU READY?????????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 19:43.30 | Xho | dafuk |
| 19:43.36 | Xho | ~~~~~ |
| 19:43.36 | infobot | grrrr |
| 19:43.41 | drom | ah shit, you created a paradox |
| 19:43.53 | Xho | Shit happens |
| 19:44.07 | drom | Quick, shove your Kicaths agent s into it. |
| 19:44.14 | Xho | ~throw Kicath Agents |
| 19:44.14 | infobot | ACTION winds up and throws Kicath Agents over the moon. |
| 19:44.22 | Xho | That...sort of works |
| 19:44.28 | drom | NOT TO THE MOON, YOU DUMBA |
| 19:44.34 | drom | IT'S LIKE RIGHT EHRE |
| 19:44.44 | Xho | ~throw Kicath Agents at the paradox |
| 19:44.44 | infobot | ACTION winds up and throws Kicath Agents at the paradox over the moon. |
| 19:44.49 | Xho | Fuck's sake |
| 19:45.09 | Xho | Paradox wins |
| 19:45.16 | drom | gives up and shoves Xho through the paradox instead. |
| 19:45.23 | Xho | That also works |
| 19:45.27 | drom | Dere, you fit |
| 19:45.33 | Xho | On another note has anyone got any other names for Elementals |
| 19:46.37 | drom | "idk" |
| 19:46.40 | Xho | And on another note no one would object to me putting a quote by Kinmorunddraver at the top |
| 19:46.42 | Xho | Forest Idks |
| 19:46.52 | Xho | Close but no cigar there Drom |
| 19:47.24 | Monet_ | Aspects? |
| 19:47.29 | Monet_ | Perhaps |
| 19:48.57 | drom | steals Xho's cigrettes* |
| 19:49.03 | drom | fck yer rules |
| 19:49.06 | Xho | NEEEEEEEEEEEEEH |
| 19:49.12 | Xho | Wait I don't smoke |
| 19:49.46 | drom | Me neither |
| 19:50.17 | drom | flings the packet of cigrettes on OluapPlayer* |
| 19:50.41 | Xho | Oluap's just gonna turn into a Spycrab and scuttle away |
| 19:51.34 | drom | good |
| 19:51.58 | drom | We catch him and make a dinner out of him |
| 19:52.14 | Xho | I do that all the time hur |
| 19:53.10 | drom | Let me to do this in a swede way |
| 19:53.47 | Xho | Speaking of Swedes |
| 19:53.50 | Xho | I want to try semla |
| 19:54.07 | drom | swings a meathammer and obilerates OluapCrab into a musy mince* |
| 19:54.17 | Monet_ | Xho: If I added you to my Xcom campaign which would you prefer him to be? A Gene-modded or mecha supersoldier? |
| 19:54.28 | Xho | Mecha supersoldier I think |
| 19:55.06 | drom | It must really feel good to be an alien if gene-modded. |
| 19:58.56 | drom | I have always wondered what would a Naakji-Kicath plot unfold. |
| 19:59.24 | Xho | Well, realistically I think the Naakji and Kicath would eventually get on quite well |
| 19:59.51 | Xho | Sure their social customs may turn a game of rock paper scissors into table throw smash |
| 19:59.52 | *** join/#sporewiki Vincent20100 (b8a31c4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.163.28.75) |
| 20:00.02 | Vincent20100 | Ha... |
| 20:00.10 | Vincent20100 | Hi dudes and dudettes! |
| 20:01.21 | Sporeraptor | hello |
| 20:01.37 | drom | Xho: If the table is indestructable, I guess it will be a table-flipping contest. The race that makes most flips wins. |
| 20:02.34 | Xho | Turns out the Naakji and Kicath are just alien Scandinavians |
| 20:03.00 | drom | Either, Swedes-Finns or Swedes-Danes |
| 20:03.21 | drom | No way Swede-Norway, this bond is way too friendly. |
| 20:03.27 | Xho | hur |
| 20:04.50 | drom | Xho: How finn/swede/icelandic/dane/norwegian is Kicath? |
| 20:05.06 | Xho | Well, Kicathian language is balls-hard |
| 20:05.11 | Xho | So probably quite Finnish hur |
| 20:05.24 | Xho | I vaguely understand Swedish/Norwegian |
| 20:05.30 | Xho | Danish is a stretch and Finnish is impossible |
| 20:05.37 | drom | The downside with finn is because they are being oppressed by russia |
| 20:05.45 | Xho | True |
| 20:06.10 | Xho | Well Kicath are generally highly advanced but they won't hesitate to throw you through a wall if you make them angry |
| 20:07.24 | drom | Finland has got a annoying father, Sweden. |
| 20:08.15 | *** join/#sporewiki Hachiman (6d98f27f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.152.242.127) |
| 20:08.15 | Xho | Hm |
| 20:08.17 | Hachiman | Hai |
| 20:08.19 | Xho | Hachiman u dunce |
| 20:08.20 | drom | Kicath are just Dane-Finns. |
| 20:08.31 | Hachiman | Xho: I like that Crux picture you did, really appreciate it |
| 20:08.35 | drom | hi dere |
| 20:08.36 | Xho | gud |
| 20:08.37 | Vincent20100 | [16:05] <drom> The downside with finn is because they are being oppressed by russia |
| 20:08.41 | Xho | Oluap thought it was dum |
| 20:08.53 | Vincent20100 | Like being oppressed by Russia was a "Bad thing". ^^ |
| 20:09.38 | Vincent20100 | Russia stronk! |
| 20:10.04 | drom | Nah. Finland can butcher Russia like in 5 mere seconds. |
| 20:10.14 | Vincent20100 | Said no Finns ever. |
| 20:10.21 | Xho | Linguistics wise hur |
| 20:10.27 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/mbJSCxh.jpg |
| 20:10.28 | Monet_ | HachimanL Happy birthday mate! |
| 20:10.42 | Xho | Jepardi: Your language is hard and my head hurts (I've said this for the 2499th time but it's true) |
| 20:11.16 | Monet_ | Hachiman* |
| 20:11.19 | Xho | I think Uralic languages in general are just a complete brain-melt |
| 20:11.23 | Xho | Hungarian as well |
| 20:11.42 | drom | I can say that the Norwegian language is like a mashup of the Danish-Swedish languages. |
| 20:12.00 | Xho | Yeah |
| 20:12.04 | drom | That's why we understand the Norwegian language easier than our rude neighors. |
| 20:12.06 | Xho | I find Swedish the easiest to understand of the three |
| 20:12.18 | Xho | Then Norwegian, then Danish |
| 20:12.32 | Xho | Though I don't speak a word of any of htem |
| 20:12.34 | Xho | *them |
| 20:12.36 | drom | Finnish isn't hard. |
| 20:12.39 | Xho | wat u on about |
| 20:12.41 | drom | "Perkele" |
| 20:12.53 | drom | There you go. |
| 20:13.14 | Xho | Making sense of "Hyvää syntymäpäivää" seems rather impossible to me |
| 20:13.23 | Xho | Which reminds me |
| 20:13.25 | Xho | Hachiman: Hyvää syntymäpäivää |
| 20:13.54 | Hachiman | Are you saying I have a small cock |
| 20:14.02 | Xho | It means Happy Birthday u dum |
| 20:14.06 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 20:14.11 | Hachiman | o rite |
| 20:14.30 | drom | Vote Hachiman for being the most British user ever 2014. |
| 20:15.24 | drom | Also, have a cute fish. http://i.imgur.com/oMVpsFr.jpg |
| 20:15.26 | Xho | The fact that British people have an innately poor grasp of foreign languages doesn't make learning one any easier |
| 20:15.49 | Xho | Drom: Cuter than I thought it was going to be admittedly |
| 20:16.19 | Xho | We have an insanely poor grasp of foreign languages |
| 20:16.24 | drom | Xho: Somebody already compared that fish to Xenos. http://i.imgur.com/K4wPd19.png |
| 20:16.37 | Xho | Going across Europe you'll probably find at least 50% of people have a grasp of English |
| 20:16.40 | Hachiman | Looks like Venom from the Spiderman comics |
| 20:17.12 | Xho | As opposed to 62% of British people who have no knowledge of a foreign language |
| 20:17.25 | Xho | It really irks me with the whole "Everyone should just learn English" trope |
| 20:17.32 | Xho | I want to punch people like that |
| 20:18.41 | drom | Nuke UK, and we are done |
| 20:19.00 | drom | If Amercia has the same problem, nuke the living shit of there too. |
| 20:19.02 | Hachiman | So according to Brazzers' Twitter, they offer free accounts |
| 20:19.13 | OluapPlayer | Of course you follow Brazzer's Twitter |
| 20:19.28 | Hachiman | y wud i not |
| 20:19.46 | drom | ew, prev |
| 20:20.33 | drom | Have a dorf dog. http://imgur.com/gallery/Y0wqCyA |
| 20:20.51 | Hachiman | daww |
| 20:21.28 | Hachiman | "snapchat is totally not for nudes. nope. not at all. not one bit." - Brazzers |
| 20:25.23 | drom | Xho: I have to say that I personally find a Naakji-Kicath collab about them getting along when they agree on something. |
| 20:25.44 | Xho | You kind of changed the sentence half way through there |
| 20:26.00 | drom | Oh shit. |
| 20:26.12 | drom | Obligatory rewrite then. |
| 20:27.01 | Xho | Everyone: I'm currently redoing the Elementals page, I guess it would be a good idea to use the same elements on the page as we did for the True Kelodhres |
| 20:27.31 | Hachiman | Nah I think we could have more Elementals than there are True Drakes |
| 20:27.49 | drom | [...] a Naakji-Kicath collab, about them getting along soon they agree on something, interesting. |
| 20:27.57 | drom | I think this setence should be okay now. |
| 20:28.02 | Xho | Right |
| 20:28.04 | Xho | Yeah it would be |
| 20:29.34 | Monet_ | Hachiman: That's a lot of elemntal types then |
| 20:29.50 | Hachiman | There are a lot of natural elements |
| 20:30.05 | Hachiman | You'd have your base stuff and then all the intricate stuff that comes from combining certain elements |
| 20:30.09 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140819192140/spore/images/3/30/ForestElemental.png I did make this as well |
| 20:30.10 | drom | I can't yet find a fitting concept or idea though. Because, as what I caught from your statements, Naakji and Kicath are like brawling twins. |
| 20:30.17 | OluapPlayer | Yeah that's the best option |
| 20:30.19 | Hachiman | dat ent |
| 20:30.20 | Xho | Kicath brawl with everyone and get along |
| 20:30.24 | Wormy | EvildxDie is back? |
| 20:30.30 | Wormy | The creator of the Taxton |
| 20:30.37 | Monet_ | TYeah I was going to wonder about the hybrid elements since they're not 100% elementary if you get my drift |
| 20:30.51 | Hachiman | Oh well hur |
| 20:30.52 | Monet_ | Steam for instance isn't one of Plato's five elements |
| 20:30.53 | Xho | Right now for the 'True Elementals' I have = Water, Sky, Earth, Forest, Fire, Light, Darkness |
| 20:31.06 | OluapPlayer | Have them represent one magic school each, like True Dragons |
| 20:31.13 | Xho | Yeah that was my initial idea |
| 20:31.16 | OluapPlayer | Then we have other elementals for the hipster stuff |
| 20:31.31 | Xho | Well Darkness is actually Shadow on this page |
| 20:31.40 | OluapPlayer | Same thing different names |
| 20:31.41 | Xho | I call Shadow Elementals cuz giant dark dragon god |
| 20:31.55 | OluapPlayer | Blood elementals |
| 20:31.55 | OluapPlayer | ick |
| 20:31.57 | Monet_ | "hiperster stuff"? |
| 20:32.03 | Monet_ | hipster* |
| 20:32.05 | Xho | OluapPlayer: zombies |
| 20:32.10 | Hachiman | I wanna do Fire Elementals hur |
| 20:32.11 | OluapPlayer | dats not blood |
| 20:32.22 | OluapPlayer | Monet_: Everything that's not a magic school |
| 20:32.27 | drom | Hair Elemental? |
| 20:32.37 | Xho | Storm and Sun Elemental as well will do |
| 20:32.52 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan is actually a Sun Elemental in a suit of armor |
| 20:32.54 | Hachiman | Xho: Air already covers Storm |
| 20:33.01 | OluapPlayer | Storm = thunder |
| 20:33.05 | Hachiman | o rite |
| 20:33.12 | Xho | Storm is like weather and whatnot |
| 20:33.13 | Hachiman | So lightning elementals |
| 20:33.21 | Xho | Yeah pretty much |
| 20:33.27 | OluapPlayer | Weather isn't an element tho |
| 20:33.35 | OluapPlayer | muh headcanon > u |
| 20:33.37 | Xho | We still have Lightning Magic hur |
| 20:33.50 | Xho | The most powerful lightning magic does alter the weather |
| 20:33.50 | Monet_ | Weather is air + water. |
| 20:33.52 | Hachiman | I imagine the "hipter" elementals would be stuff like steam, mud, blood, magma, etc |
| 20:34.02 | drom | make a type those elementals falling in that category is mostly composed of hair and fur |
| 20:34.03 | OluapPlayer | Blood is a magic school |
| 20:34.06 | OluapPlayer | So it'll fall under True |
| 20:34.07 | Xho | As was apparent with Nalúnt who was the god of weather |
| 20:34.17 | OluapPlayer | I always saw storm stuff = electricity |
| 20:34.19 | Xho | Yeah |
| 20:34.23 | Xho | I mean bad weather |
| 20:34.32 | Xho | Like, torrential storms weather |
| 20:35.08 | Xho | But yeah the basics of storm stuff is electricity |
| 20:35.17 | Xho | Then masters can alter the weather and stuff |
| 20:35.23 | OluapPlayer | rite |
| 20:35.27 | Hachiman | Needs Periodic Table elementals hur |
| 20:35.38 | Xho | Or if you're a god you can completely change the weather on Koldenwelt |
| 20:35.53 | Xho | Turn everything into a frozen wasteland for instance if you're so inclind |
| 20:35.54 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan is on his way of becoming the new Storm Colossus then |
| 20:36.04 | Xho | Norrigan the Fabulous |
| 20:36.35 | drom | rainbow elementals |
| 20:36.38 | drom | yiss |
| 20:36.47 | Xho | I dunno about Frost Elemental |
| 20:36.53 | Monet_ | Hachi: Bad joke is bad |
| 20:37.03 | Hachiman | For some reason I'm imagining Elementals now as similar to djinn |
| 20:37.04 | OluapPlayer | Ice is a magic school, so they should exist |
| 20:37.11 | Xho | right |
| 20:37.28 | Monet_ | Periodic table elementals = over 100 different elemental types |
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| 20:37.57 | Xho | Hydrogen Elemental, cause fuck your shit |
| 20:38.09 | Liquid_Ink | Hello to you too. |
| 20:38.15 | Hachiman | Needs Bone Elemental, aka giant skelly |
| 20:38.31 | Xho | I suppose that would fall under a subtype of Shadow Elemental |
| 20:38.32 | OluapPlayer | Sepulchrus - mine |
| 20:38.33 | Xho | Since dark magic |
| 20:38.44 | Xho | And necromancy and stoof |
| 20:38.45 | Hachiman | It would also fall under Earth Elemental I imagine |
| 20:38.46 | OluapPlayer | u got nothin on Ununoctium Elementals |
| 20:38.55 | Xho | Void Elementals |
| 20:38.56 | Xho | ngh |
| 20:39.02 | Hachiman | void not an element |
| 20:39.04 | Xho | Primal Elementals, more ngh |
| 20:39.12 | Xho | Celestial Elementals, not so ngh |
| 20:39.23 | Hachiman | Primal Energy also doesn't represent an element hur |
| 20:39.27 | Xho | duz nao |
| 20:39.32 | Xho | kicks Hachiman into the sun |
| 20:39.44 | Xho | Time Elemental |
| 20:39.49 | Monet_ | Actually Oluap that makes me think...do we stick to natural elements or do we inclde artificial elements |
| 20:39.49 | Xho | Hm probably not a good idea |
| 20:39.54 | OluapPlayer | Will neve rhave a page |
| 20:40.01 | OluapPlayer | u got nothin on Ununoctium Elementals |
| 20:40.12 | Hachiman | dafuq is unonoctium |
| 20:40.13 | Xho | Ainsley Elementals |
| 20:40.16 | OluapPlayer | Oh god |
| 20:40.24 | OluapPlayer | These are Caligaduro's true wardens |
| 20:40.24 | Xho | Oil Elementals |
| 20:40.39 | OluapPlayer | I just realized I posted the Ununoctium Elemental thing twice |
| 20:40.40 | Hachiman | That reminds me, needs Poison Elementals |
| 20:40.41 | OluapPlayer | Sorry about taht |
| 20:40.49 | Xho | Void Elementals do exist but just not on Koldenwelt |
| 20:40.57 | Monet_ | Hachiman: Ununoctium is the heaviest known element recorded |
| 20:41.11 | Xho | Technically speaking every single Void Denizen is a Void Elemental given form |
| 20:41.14 | Hachiman | So basically |
| 20:41.17 | OluapPlayer | I'ts the last thing in the periodic table |
| 20:41.18 | Hachiman | Your Mama Elemental |
| 20:41.22 | Xho | OOOOOOH |
| 20:41.31 | OluapPlayer | Nah, Ununoctium is lighter |
| 20:41.34 | Monet_ | Unfortunately the only place it exists in the universe is in a high-energy atom smasher. |
| 20:41.35 | Hachiman | hue |
| 20:41.48 | Hachiman | Antimatter Elemental |
| 20:41.54 | Xho | Arcane Elementals won't work since you can't have an elemental made out of illusions |
| 20:41.57 | Xho | Well you might be able to |
| 20:42.05 | Xho | I dunno I'll leave it out for now |
| 20:42.11 | OluapPlayer | Doesn't look fitting |
| 20:42.14 | Hachiman | I think we need to think more about alchemical elements |
| 20:42.41 | Monet_ | Hachiman: Elements in its atomic number range are so large they tend to have insanely short half-lives |
| 20:42.53 | Monet_ | they split themselves because they're os massive. |
| 20:43.10 | Hachiman | So fat elements can't stand being around fat elements |
| 20:43.33 | Monet_ | No. Fat elements are so fat they break down very soon after they are formed |
| 20:43.46 | OluapPlayer | They die of morbid obesity |
| 20:44.02 | Hachiman | Tumblr is made out of fat elements |
| 20:44.06 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 20:44.10 | Xho | And any particular quasi-elementals we can think of |
| 20:44.15 | Xho | i.e hipsters |
| 20:44.29 | OluapPlayer | Can't think of anything atm |
| 20:44.59 | Hachiman | Xho: i wanna do magma elementulz and fire elementulz |
| 20:45.15 | OluapPlayer | Magma is a possible quasi |
| 20:45.19 | Xho | Well I've covered Storm, Sun and Shadow so the rest are up for grabs |
| 20:45.31 | Xho | Technically it would be a Lava Elemental since it's above ground |
| 20:45.33 | Xho | :science: |
| 20:45.41 | OluapPlayer | I can make Poison I guess |
| 20:45.57 | OluapPlayer | But I'll wait to see what your elementals look like before I make anything |
| 20:46.09 | Xho | Will Poison be True or Quasi |
| 20:46.18 | OluapPlayer | Magic school |
| 20:46.18 | OluapPlayer | True |
| 20:46.27 | Hachiman | I'm imagining that the Elementals won't have uniform appearances, so you'd get deiwos and others |
| 20:46.39 | Hachiman | Mine will probably be deiwos-like though |
| 20:46.41 | Monet_ | Magma/lava and afire elementals feel really familiar to me. |
| 20:46.45 | Xho | Yeah that's what I described on the page |
| 20:47.04 | Xho | Though I said elementals with greater physical stature have more limitations on what form they can take |
| 20:47.05 | Monet_ | Bit humanocentric but whatever, its up to popular opinion. |
| 20:47.22 | Xho | i.e. Water elementals can do anything but Earth elementals couldn't |
| 20:47.33 | Xho | At least within the realms of possibility |
| 20:47.39 | OluapPlayer | I could also make Blood Elementals who live at Sanguine Hill |
| 20:47.47 | Hachiman | Water elementals are actually dolphins |
| 20:48.01 | OluapPlayer | get ur fetihs off irc kthx |
| 20:48.12 | Xho | I did say that Elementals aren't generally capable of speech |
| 20:48.14 | Hachiman | hao bout u suk dolfin dik pls |
| 20:48.18 | Xho | You'll just have to read the page |
| 20:48.26 | OluapPlayer | go finish paeg u cokmonger |
| 20:48.51 | Monet_ | Thing is I've always figured blood magic = a twisted form of life magic |
| 20:49.05 | Hachiman | I always thought of blood magic as being linked to water magic |
| 20:49.17 | Hachiman | Cuz liquid and such |
| 20:49.27 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental There we go |
| 20:49.37 | Monet_ | Yeah but for a long time blood was synonymous with the essence of life |
| 20:49.59 | Hachiman | Xho: Sand should be part of Earth u dummy |
| 20:50.02 | drom | See ya mates. I don't want to fall asleep at my very first class of the second year. (That's the Senior-grade for you amurcians) |
| 20:50.09 | Xho | Sand and Earth are separate magic schools |
| 20:50.10 | OluapPlayer | Sand is its own magic school |
| 20:50.12 | Xho | so up urs |
| 20:50.15 | Hachiman | rite |
| 20:50.16 | Xho | birfday boi |
| 20:50.26 | OluapPlayer | You're basically saying Sand Drakes shouldn't exist |
| 20:50.27 | drom | and borthday, Hachiman |
| 20:50.53 | Xho | The Colossi, Elementals and True Kelodhres are all very closely connected |
| 20:51.07 | Xho | Since they are the oldest forms of life in the world |
| 20:52.22 | OluapPlayer | Page looks far better now |
| 20:52.24 | Hachiman | Will there be Elemental *leaders* and such? |
| 20:52.26 | Hachiman | Aye it does |
| 20:52.34 | Xho | Not necessarily leaders |
| 20:52.54 | Xho | Elementals are basically very intelligent animals by most accounts |
| 20:53.04 | Xho | You may have some which are smarter than that basis |
| 20:53.18 | OluapPlayer | I don't imagine Venom Elementals having any kind of organization, and Blood Elementals would probably serve Zran Kar |
| 20:53.34 | Xho | I'd say with the cases of the Storm/Sun/Shadow Elementals are very closely linked with their Drake counterparts |
| 20:53.34 | Hachiman | I can imagine Fire Elementals being little shits |
| 20:54.03 | OluapPlayer | Meanwhile Water Elementals are super chill |
| 20:54.13 | Hachiman | Not as chill as Frost Elementals hur |
| 20:54.24 | OluapPlayer | listen here u lil shit |
| 20:54.43 | Xho | Since the Storm/Sun/Shadow elements are essentially older than the rest of the elements in terms of presence |
| 20:55.05 | Xho | With the case of the Shadow Drakes, AkhemazdrÃs likely created both Shadow Elementals and Shadow Drakes and are probably one of the same entity in spirit |
| 20:55.30 | OluapPlayer | dats lazi |
| 20:55.31 | Xho | Just in nature one of them is a violent spirit and the other is a giant violent dragon |
| 20:55.47 | Hachiman | I imagine many of the elementals would be in some way related to Yak |
| 20:56.14 | Xho | Well AkhemazdrÃs is very different to Nalúnt and the Sun Drake leader since he is like a primordial god in most aspects whilst the other two were just dragon leaders |
| 20:56.39 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna claim Bone Elementals hur |
| 20:56.46 | OluapPlayer | They could be what an Elemental becomes after being reaped |
| 20:56.46 | Xho | Pelagrios - no mien |
| 20:57.01 | Xho | Rum Elemental |
| 20:57.11 | OluapPlayer | olol |
| 20:57.12 | Xho | Pelagrios' one true love |
| 20:57.43 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - u get a water elemental, add a ton of alcohol til it changes colour and BAM |
| 20:57.52 | Xho | Pelagrios, magical genius |
| 20:58.21 | OluapPlayer | Town is attacked by rum elemental, Pelagrios saves the day by drinking it alive |
| 20:58.41 | Xho | I can't really explain the mythology behind Storm and Sun Drakes since AkhemazdrÃs is responsible for a lot more things than just being the head of the Shadow Drakes |
| 20:59.10 | Xho | OluapPlayer: *throws up whilst flapping arms like wings* YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BADGES TO TRAIN ME, RUM ELEMENTAL |
| 20:59.48 | OluapPlayer | Nd - dis is y i dunt hang out with u anymor |
| 20:59.56 | Xho | Pelagrios - nonsense |
| 21:01.24 | Xho | I'm gonna expand on that Forest Elemental section |
| 21:07.48 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental Right updated that |
| 21:09.57 | OluapPlayer | olomontol |
| 21:10.32 | Xho | I suppose we can add Ents to the bestiary now hur |
| 21:10.40 | OluapPlayer | You can hur |
| 21:11.00 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of the bestiary |
| 21:11.19 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3ABasilisk chicken snakes have a page |
| 21:11.23 | OluapPlayer | now |
| 21:11.59 | Xho | Sssbok bok bok |
| 21:12.25 | Xho | "weasels and ferrets" |
| 21:12.31 | Xho | Kinmo - u fukin kiddn me |
| 21:12.58 | OluapPlayer | phoenix dunt kno mythology |
| 21:13.29 | Xho | Kinmo - bitch i am mythology |
| 21:13.46 | OluapPlayer | he dunt kno himself |
| 21:14.56 | Xho | Hm should I use the term 'Ent' or 'Talking Tree' |
| 21:15.04 | Xho | Talking Trees are more prevalent in mythology |
| 21:15.42 | OluapPlayer | I never heard of Talking Trees |
| 21:16.05 | Xho | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_tree |
| 21:16.25 | OluapPlayer | That's a new term for me |
| 21:16.35 | OluapPlayer | Well by what that page says, ents came from talking trees |
| 21:16.38 | OluapPlayer | So use talking trees |
| 21:17.42 | OluapPlayer | I always knew this kind of creature as a treant but apparently that term originated from D&D |
| 21:21.38 | Xho | I still think we should have a demon section on there |
| 21:21.41 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (44e7d075@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.231.208.117) |
| 21:21.48 | Monet_ | Hello |
| 21:21.51 | Xho | But what qualifies as a demon in the Fantasyverse I dunno |
| 21:21.56 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 21:22.29 | Tybusen | I finally finished NGE and was blown away by just how screwy the ending of Episode 26 was |
| 21:22.34 | Xho | I'd consider the Shiarchon the closest thing to a demon since they're hellish infernal things who generally don't like people |
| 21:22.57 | Xho | Then again demons do take many different forms |
| 21:22.59 | OluapPlayer | I still say fantasyverse demon = anything coming out of the Void/Sanguine Hill/Id/any hostile Simulacrum realm |
| 21:23.27 | Xho | That's a better definition |
| 21:23.36 | Xho | Right...what image to use for that then |
| 21:24.04 | OluapPlayer | Several creatures from what I listed together hur |
| 21:24.17 | Xho | Well chop chop |
| 21:24.24 | OluapPlayer | u want it, u do it |
| 21:24.36 | Xho | Well what's the most demonic thing we have right now that we could use as a placeholder |
| 21:24.46 | OluapPlayer | Void Denizens probably |
| 21:25.48 | Xho | http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140614161729/spore/images/a/af/WanderingNightmare.png Use this one? |
| 21:26.00 | OluapPlayer | Yeah that fits nicely |
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| 21:28.15 | Xho | Would Outworld count as a demonic realm now |
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| 21:28.26 | OluapPlayer | Hm |
| 21:28.31 | OluapPlayer | Better leave it out for now |
| 21:28.49 | OluapPlayer | I imagine stuff like the Outworld and the Underworld as being neutral realms |
| 21:29.02 | Xho | Hm yeah |
| 21:29.36 | OluapPlayer | Funnily enough they both have "world" in their names |
| 21:31.37 | Xho | Hm |
| 21:31.41 | Xho | What about gods/deities |
| 21:31.48 | OluapPlayer | wut you mean |
| 21:32.10 | Xho | Well, gods and deities are usually the centrepiece of mythology |
| 21:32.29 | OluapPlayer | You mean a list of gods and deities in the setting? |
| 21:32.39 | Xho | I mean a generalisation for them on the bestiary |
| 21:32.48 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 21:32.50 | OluapPlayer | Hm |
| 21:32.53 | OluapPlayer | That's tricky |
| 21:33.08 | Xho | Deities technically range between mindless animals and all-knowing horrors in the Fantasyverse |
| 21:33.41 | Xho | Did we ever say anything about the parallel to the Simulacra idea |
| 21:33.57 | Xho | I think we all said 'yeah sounds like an idea' and then just dropped it because we were either lazy or forgot |
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| 21:34.17 | OluapPlayer | That was the case I think |
| 21:34.23 | OluapPlayer | I said I wasn't sure about the idea of more deities |
| 21:34.34 | TekDroid | Hello |
| 21:34.40 | Xho | I'd imagine the parallels would be far less involved in Koldenwelt's business |
| 21:35.03 | Xho | Probably don't see much reason to be involved unless the Simulacra get really tied up in mortal affairs |
| 21:35.08 | OluapPlayer | TES has no parallel to the Draedric Princes afaik and it works fine |
| 21:35.13 | Xho | Nine Divines |
| 21:35.19 | Xho | In Oblivion anyway |
| 21:35.29 | OluapPlayer | Didn't play that one |
| 21:35.33 | Xho | Oblivion has massive contrasts between Daedra and Aedra throughout the whole game |
| 21:35.40 | Xho | usually Akatosh vs Mehrunes Dagon |
| 21:36.14 | Hachiman | Akatosh must've been an asshole if his firstborn was Alduin |
| 21:36.19 | Xho | Though that being said Shivering Isles is Sheogorath vs Jyggalag |
| 21:37.05 | Xho | Though that being said the Aedra never get directly involved in the game |
| 21:37.14 | Xho | Daedra do all the time hur |
| 21:37.23 | OluapPlayer | cus cheese |
| 21:37.26 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 21:37.39 | Xho | In Oblivion you come directly in contact with three Daedric Princes |
| 21:37.39 | Monet_ | OluapPlayer: Yeah, nine divines. |
| 21:38.03 | Monet_ | In the old languages Daedra = not our ancestors, Aedra (the divines) = our anciestors iirc |
| 21:38.12 | Hachiman | We risk Koldenwelt's mythology becoming cliche though |
| 21:38.15 | Xho | Though you do encounter a few more in Skyrim I think |
| 21:38.18 | Hachiman | Not all of the Simulacra are evil |
| 21:38.19 | OluapPlayer | That's one thing |
| 21:38.25 | Xho | Well |
| 21:38.40 | Xho | You could all make them as capricious bastards as much as the Simulacra |
| 21:38.50 | Xho | But just representing lighter things |
| 21:39.18 | Xho | So you just have 23 bastard gods but 13 representing light and 11 representing dark |
| 21:39.36 | OluapPlayer | The Simulacra already conflict with each other, having more deities to conflict with them could it into typical black-white stuff |
| 21:39.52 | Xho | Well, doesn't have to be black-white |
| 21:40.04 | Xho | It would be more of an order-chaos thing if all of the gods were dickheads |
| 21:41.09 | Xho | I dunno it just doesn't seem mythologically right to have a pantheon of darkness without a pantheon of light |
| 21:41.32 | Xho | You could just use the parallel gods existing just as lore for the most of it and have little to no interaction |
| 21:41.34 | OluapPlayer | We can have it if everyone else agrees with it, I'm just concerned about deity overload |
| 21:42.16 | Xho | Either that or each Simulacra has two aspects to them which is a very tricky idea |
| 21:42.32 | OluapPlayer | Zran Kar and Kran Zar |
| 21:42.49 | Xho | Though I dunno whether beings like Caligaduro/Vargash/Kaicaiusarin would have opposite aspects |
| 21:42.58 | OluapPlayer | I don't see that working |
| 21:43.17 | Xho | Hm yeah it's too tricky to put into practice |
| 21:43.37 | OluapPlayer | If we have that, I can see Yak being that pantheon's equivalent of Caligaduro |
| 21:44.04 | Xho | Caligaduro - :iamcolossus: |
| 21:44.24 | Xho | That would be the ultimate fan hitter |
| 21:44.24 | OluapPlayer | u r simulacra not colossus |
| 21:44.26 | Hachiman | Yakshrapala - :wholetthedogsout: |
| 21:44.28 | Xho | Caligaduro is Yak |
| 21:44.46 | Xho | Well Caligaduro's original moniker was Colossus in Koldenwelt |
| 21:44.52 | Xho | Before people started giving him weird names |
| 21:45.12 | OluapPlayer | "big bak man" Caligaduro - dats racist |
| 21:45.20 | OluapAway | *blak even |
| 21:45.22 | Xho | Mainly because if you take the form of a 8,000 metre tall demon what else are you gonna get called |
| 21:45.23 | Xho | 'Fluffy' |
| 21:45.26 | OluapAway | Anyway college bai |
| 21:45.31 | Xho | bai |
| 21:45.51 | Xho | It's just an idea |
| 21:46.08 | Xho | If it does become cliche we can scrap it but I don't like the idea of an evil pantheon existing without a good one |
| 21:46.12 | Hachiman | rite dun fire elemental |
| 21:46.24 | Xho | Probably expanding on the idea of too many evil characters in the Fantasyverse |
| 21:47.11 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/byk3rTm.png?1 How does this look? |
| 21:47.32 | Xho | Looks good to me |
| 21:48.45 | Xho | My main argument is that if we do create a good pantheon it's just an idea *not* to use it in the same way we use the Simulaacra |
| 21:48.46 | Xho | *Simulacra |
| 21:48.52 | Hachiman | Hmm true |
| 21:49.20 | Technobliterator | that looks like an FFXII enemy |
| 21:49.23 | Technobliterator | aka it looks good |
| 21:49.30 | Hachiman | yey |
| 21:49.37 | Xho | It would allow me to at least expand on the whole Zenith mythology if we do that |
| 21:50.41 | Xho | Midnight mythology is very scrambled though |
| 21:52.52 | Xho | I dunno though |
| 21:53.06 | Xho | I'd rather have other users discuss it rather than me making all the ideas all the time |
| 21:53.23 | Hachiman | Alright, I'll guess I'll see what ideas I can come up with |
| 21:53.40 | Xho | I've made enough ideas on the Fantasyverse now and I think other users should come up with something regarding mythology |
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| 22:22.39 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Elemental#Fundamental_Elementals dere dun fire elementul |
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| 22:41.37 | MasterMachine | My GA game showed up today :P |
| 22:45.29 | Vincent20100 | MAster, going to eat, but go read the story, I changed it |
| 22:57.12 | TekDroid | >.< Damn AI. In EUIV I got called into a war where I make up 3/4 of my sides troops and we're still outnumbered. |
| 22:59.28 | TekDroid | And if I somehow win? I gain nothing unless I anger my allies. -.- |
| 22:59.39 | MasterMachine | lol |
| 23:00.45 | TekDroid | And any territory I do take would be on the other side of Europe. -.- |
| 23:01.37 | MasterMachine | Oh just take it all and tell your allies to piss off xD |
| 23:04.52 | Vincent20100 | What country are you? |
| 23:27.41 | TekDroid | ~test |
| 23:27.41 | infobot | somebody said test was not funny |
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| 23:39.31 | Vincent20100 | Am I the only one who like creating Wildlife Reserves? |
| 23:42.29 | Vincent20100 | I just love creating some and imagine they are visited by tourists. |
