IRC log for #sporewiki on 20140816

00:02.39Zillafire101_There can be only one.
00:04.38*** join/#sporewiki OfficerJackal (~OfficerJa@c-69-139-46-236.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
00:05.10OfficerJackalHello!
00:05.19OfficerJackalI noticed they changed the logo and theme of Steam.
00:05.23OfficerJackalEven the desktop icon.
00:05.39Technobliteratorsteam is faster too
00:06.36OfficerJackalCool! :D
00:06.47OfficerJackalKinda looks like their Big Screen Experience or whatever it's called theme too.
00:06.58DrodoEmpireYeah
00:08.05Technobliteratorthat is the idea
00:08.11Technobliteratorit's not on Linux yet though
00:08.14Technobliteratorjust Windows for now
00:09.05TekDroidHaven't been on Steam yet.
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00:23.01MasterMachineHello
00:23.05Liquid_InkHello
00:28.48TekDroidI'm in the US for a vacation. I swear most of the American stereotypes become more true the further we went from the border. XD
00:28.57DrodoEmpirelol
00:29.07Liquid_InkBorder? You're Canadian?
00:29.18TekDroidYeah.
00:29.31DrodoEmpireMe too. :P
00:30.18Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Oevrumine#Characteristics Did some biology
00:30.19DrodoEmpireplots with Tek to overthrow the IRC for the Big Evil Canadian Conspiracy
00:31.18MasterMachineTek, like what? How we say "wuter" instead of "water"?
00:31.19TekDroidCross the border, sharp rise in rudeness. From then on it's a lot more Christian churchs, obesity and the town I'm in literally had American flags on every lamp post. XD
00:31.31MasterMachinelol
00:31.35MasterMachineWelcome to Amurka
00:31.50TekDroidAlso a bunch of law signs protesting a NY gun control law.
00:31.55TekDroid*lawn
00:32.12DrodoEmpirelul
00:33.08MasterMachineOh that's the boobies
00:33.11MasterMachine*boonies
00:33.14MasterMachine...
00:33.44MasterMachineGo to some of the cities, then it gets fun.
00:34.50TekDroidI've been to NYC, Boston, Florida, rural USA really reinforces it though. XD
00:37.57MasterMachine...
00:38.27MasterMachineThe cities are less conservative usually though... but often ruder I suppose lol
00:38.31MasterMachineEspecially NYC
00:38.56TekDroidWell the rudeness was more in the urban areas.
00:38.57MasterMachineYou can't walk 20ft without learning a few new words in NYC
00:39.31MasterMachineHachiman: The Oevrumine look interesting. Nicely done :)
00:40.17TekDroidIn NYC we had a tour guide who basically spent the whole time telling us where not to go and how not to spend any money. XD
00:40.57MasterMachineHA! That's definitly an experianced tour guide then.
00:41.11MasterMachine"Don't EVER go to the Bronx. You'll probably die."
00:41.32MasterMachine(sorry to anyone in the Bronx, I've only been there once and it scared the shit outta me)
00:42.10HachimanWhat's this about boobies?
00:42.18MasterMachinexD
00:42.20TekDroidNo, it's more don't go to any significant tourist attractions unless they're free. Also spent the other half talking about his mother's dating life or something. XD
00:42.27MasterMachineI had meant to say "boonies"
00:42.40HachimanSo you're saying "boobies" was a mistake
00:42.44MasterMachineYep
00:42.45HachimanBoobies are never a mistake
00:42.48MasterMachine...
00:42.58MasterMachineI find myself agreeing with you on at least 72 levels.
00:43.07MasterMachine#Male
00:45.04Hachiman#Hetero
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00:45.44MasterMachineHello Birds
00:46.15Zillafire101_I want to go to Germany, speaking of Vacations.
00:46.49MasterMachineHachiman, do you still have active fiction in Andromeda?
00:46.57HachimanYes
00:47.24MasterMachineOh cool. Did your fiction take part in the Andromeda War? Like, against the Grox & Mechanovirus?
00:47.28MasterMachine(it's been a while sorry :/)
00:48.57HachimanIt did
00:50.52MasterMachineWhere is the Brood of War located in Andromeda?
00:51.10HachimanCan't remember, Segmentum Crepusculum I think
00:51.18MasterMachineAh
00:51.31MasterMachineDamn, that the opposite end from the Union lol
00:51.46MasterMachineOh wait
00:51.51HachimanBut Brood colonies stretch across Andromeda thanks to the formation of the AGC
00:51.53MasterMachineNot near it, but in the area
00:51.56MasterMachineOh cool
00:52.18MasterMachineI'm trying to figure out how to actually get the Union reintroduced to fiction
00:52.37MasterMachineI've been debating a sort of mechanical crusade to retake their former territories
00:56.21MasterMachineexplodes at random, splattering the IRC with bits of metal and guts in equal measure*
00:56.40HachimanThat's gonna be difficult considering that Andromeda's situation isn't a very good one
00:57.01MasterMachinehmm?
00:57.17MasterMachineI thought it was still in the New Dawn and/or the very beginning of the Shattering?
00:57.28HachimanYeah but the Shattering is wrecking Andromeda up
00:57.34MasterMachineOh
00:57.42MasterMachineWell then wouldn't this just be another part of it?
00:58.38HachimanCould be, you're gonna have to discuss that with Imp
00:59.43MasterMachineOk
01:02.45MasterMachineOh, Hachiman, this may be stupid, but am I able to add my fiction to the Navbox?
01:03.10HachimanI dunno, I don't work with the Navbox
01:03.18HachimanImp and Monet do
01:03.27MasterMachineOh
01:03.31MasterMachineOk, thanks anyway.
01:04.16MasterMachineIt would be simpler to just make teh Union be in Plazith using the Lost Ones leap-tech...
01:35.28Machine_OnePiecehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oJ9KYkn0ys - I literally just watched this while waiting for a video to load...
01:37.08DrodoEmpirelul
01:38.50HachimanOhgod that's amazing
01:41.01Zillafire101_Greatest video ever.
01:41.06Machine_OnePiecelol
01:42.43Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188465 Everyone take a look at this
01:43.43DrodoEmpireCommenting now
01:47.18Machine_OnePieceCommented
01:47.31WormySorry about typos, I wrote it after drinking
01:47.40WormyI think I did quite well though
01:47.49Wormytext-wise
01:48.08HachimanAye you did
01:48.54OfficerJackalI read it, and I liked it. I think you are right.
01:49.58DrodoEmpirePosted.
01:50.38Machine_OnePieceWormy, you did amazingly.
01:50.53Wormythanks
01:52.36DrodoEmpireI agree with the statements as well
01:53.27TybusenThank you Wormy
01:53.32TybusenI think this is what the Wiki needs right now
01:53.58Wormyindeed
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01:55.34Machine_OnePieceHello ink. Read this if you haven't already:  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188465
01:56.25Machine_OnePiecedamnit thats confusing -_-
01:59.56Machine_OnePiecexD
02:00.08Machine_OnePieceWell played. Well played indeed.
02:02.40TybusenShh, no tears. Only_Ink now.
02:06.04HachimanCommented
02:16.32WormyInteresting comments
02:17.22HachimanSee I don't see a divide between admins and users, I see more of a divide between *older* and *newer* users
02:17.39HachimanJust so happens that some of the older users are admins
02:18.25DrodoEmpireBut the thing is is that this causes an subconscious divide; It almost makes admins inaccessable or, worse, an aristocracy
02:18.41DrodoEmpireYou don't realize this because you've been around for longer.
02:18.51DrodoEmpireWhich is perfectly normal
02:19.02DrodoEmpireBut I, and I would be willing to bet a few others, do.
02:20.24HachimanI don't see how the admins are being aristocratic. Wormy is an admin and he's very approachable, Jo is an admin and she takes her job in maintaining the wiki and its format seriously but is also approached with concerns to features, Ghelae is an admin and while he's quiet he's approachable nonetheless
02:20.44Angrybirds_Ban warnings, as I've just found out, are -very- impactful. When only the older users, who naturally are more connected with each other and their own personal style, are the only ones with adminships, it can be hard for the new users to feel like their viewpoint is being considered.
02:21.29OfficerJackalHmm, yeah I can see that happening, all the admins are basically older users that hold older forms of making fiction on SW.
02:21.37DrodoEmpireHachi: It gives the illusion thereof at the very least, and we feel like we have a lack of representation
02:21.44DrodoEmpireI don't understand why you take issue.
02:22.38Angrybirds_Also, this is a little long, but I think it is important for this to be read: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188463#3
02:22.48HachimanWell I don't see any issue between admins and users specifically, admins are just users with a few buttons that work according to the rules. I see more of an issue with older users and newer users specifically as you new guys have taken up issies with older people like me
02:22.55HachimanAnd I'm not an admin :P
02:23.01WormyOne issue is that we are seen by new users as doing all the heaby workload, as knowing everything, as planning everything.  When really, we all should be
02:23.28WormyNew users I think should be encouraged to achieve
02:23.40DrodoEmpireHachi: That is what is stated. But the long and short of it is that they're the "government" through no effort of their own.
02:24.09DrodoEmpireOnce again, it'd be nice to have a guy from our "group" in power to help along this defactionalization
02:24.19HachimanThat's just promoting factionism though
02:24.21Angrybirds_Hachiman : They also get to interpret those rules and deliver rulings on whether or not something violates the rules. These rulings are, because we're all human, going to be slanted towards the old user viewpoint. (Just a note, I'm not trying to argue with you, but it's important that this is talked about)
02:24.49TekDroidHachiman: Of course on the other hand if they're supposed to simply be in charge of maintaining things with a few extra buttons then there shouldn't be a problem with broadening its membership.
02:24.58DrodoEmpireNo it isn't; It brings the "out group" closer to the admins by merging the two
02:25.16HachimanTekDroid: There isn't a problem, it would just be unnecessary as we have all the admins necessary already
02:25.28DrodoEmpireBut there's a social issue you're not seeing
02:25.37HachimanWe don't need an excessive number of admins to maintain the wiki
02:25.56DrodoEmpireI meant one or two promotions
02:26.01DrodoEmpireFrom different social groups
02:26.13DrodoEmpireSo people feel they have representation and we can knit them together closer
02:26.19Angrybirds_Hachiman : My theory is that it'll discourage it. In general, factionalism happens when a group of people coalesce to accomplish a common goal or fight a common threat. In this case, the new users feel that they have no power and thus coalesce for protection. Giving them an admin will go a long way to dissolving tensions and making them feel that their viewpoints are being represented.
02:26.22Zillafire101_That sounds fair.
02:26.26Angrybirds_Thus, no more need for factions.
02:26.31Angrybirds_in the true sense.
02:26.35DrodoEmpire^
02:28.19HachimanThat's hardly the case, Angry. The admins don't confide in one another on an extremely regular basis, they hang out like normal users do with normal users. Being an admin won't make you any new friends, you'll just be on a board that works in maintaining the wiki format
02:28.42HachimanAdminship isn't about representation, it's about maintenance
02:29.15DrodoEmpireBut functionally they are the government.
02:29.16DrodoEmpire:P
02:29.18Angrybirds_In practice, it's about community maintenance as well.
02:29.29DrodoEmpireOnce again, no fault of their own, but its true
02:29.32Angrybirds_They break up arguments, police the IRC, and issue bans.
02:29.33TybusenThere's still a divide between the older users and the newer users and that divide has to be bridged somehow.
02:29.43DrodoEmpireSocial interactions do not follow logic
02:29.50HachimanGiving a newer user adminship will not change anything though
02:29.55DrodoEmpireIt will
02:29.59Zillafire101_^
02:30.01TybusenAlso, the admins, by virtue of them having extra buttons, are generally viewed as role models
02:30.15Machine_OnePieceI don't think it's admins so much as it is the oldest members of the wiki don't want to see the changes that are happening to it. With some exceptions o/c
02:30.24DrodoEmpireAnd even if you disagree, the numbers are still against you; It's likely going to happen.
02:30.29HachimanExactly, it's not *admins*, it's *older* users
02:30.31DrodoEmpireNot to presume things
02:30.37OluapAwayBad choice of words
02:30.37HachimanExcuse me?
02:30.49TechnobliteratorFor the record, I oppose a new admin, and I'm going to explain why, but not until I'm done replying to AB (and for the record, my response to him will be a friendly one)
02:30.50DrodoEmpire"Not to presume things"
02:31.02Technobliterator...I said for the record twice. I suck ._.
02:31.08Hachiman"And even if you disagree, the numbers are still against you; It's likely going to happen."
02:31.16HachimanWhat the hell is that supposed to mean
02:31.20Zillafire101_Oh boy.
02:31.34DrodoEmpireI apologise, like Oluap said "Bad choice of words"
02:31.50HachimanThis is why I oppose new admins; the newer users don't know what the fuck they're talking about or how a community works
02:31.59DrodoEmpireExcuse me?
02:32.11WormyRight, I'm not sure about a new admin.  By giving a representative, it strengthens the idea that adminship should be a social matter, not status.  Or that there is a need for representatives... For factions
02:32.12OluapPlayerBad choice of words again
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02:32.27HachimanA community isn't decided purely by *numbers* Drodo
02:32.35HachimanIt's decided by the opinions of *everyone*
02:32.40HachimanWe're people, not a statistic
02:32.41DrodoEmpireHachi, I suggest you put your elitism away
02:32.51DrodoEmpireNow,
02:32.52TechnobliteratorHachiman, DrodoEmpire, I'm going to suggest that you both take this discussion to the forum
02:32.53Wormy<PROTECTED>
02:32.54Angrybirds_Let's not argue, please...
02:33.01OluapPlayerYeah settle down, both of you
02:33.04HachimanHow the fuck am I being elitist
02:33.15DrodoEmpire"This is why I oppose new admins; the newer users don't know what the fuck they're talking about or how a community works"
02:33.15Zilla_awayI better not ansewer.
02:33.19TechnobliteratorJust chill out, and express your views on the forum, not on here.
02:33.22DrodoEmpireNow yes, let's calm down
02:33.28HachimanYou're the one suggesting that the wiki is going to be dictated purely by a number of votes
02:33.33HachimanYou don't know how it works
02:33.35Technobliteratorhachi...
02:33.35DrodoEmpireI never said that
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02:33.40MasterMachineshivers in fear
02:33.43DrodoEmpireYou're becoming unreasonable
02:33.43HachimanTherefore you don't know what the hell you're talking about
02:33.45DrodoEmpireGO away.
02:33.48DrodoEmpire*Go
02:33.49MasterMachineRandom, hey. Please do something random.
02:33.58MasterMachineLike, really random.
02:34.09CyrannianHello Random.
02:34.12OluapPlayerI'm going to repeat myself because I don't think I was clear
02:34.15OluapPlayerSettle down
02:34.19The_Randomnessrand();
02:34.36DrodoEmpireI will.
02:34.39HachimanRight
02:34.56TechnobliteratorForum for this discussion
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02:35.14DrodoEmpireAgreed.
02:35.17MasterMachineForum?
02:35.25MasterMachineIs that new or am I having a brain fart?
02:36.26CyrannianHello Liquid.
02:37.14Liquid_InkBoo
02:38.11TechnobliteratorDrodoEmpire, for the record, I disagree with making new admins, and I will explain why. But I hope you don't think it's anything personal or threatening.
02:38.21DrodoEmpireI won't.
02:38.26DrodoEmpirePlease, speak your mind.
02:39.12WormyI propose that we create a forum for the whole community
02:39.21The_RandomnessThis is absurd
02:39.22WormyAbout whether to have a new admin
02:39.39Wormywe debate constructively
02:39.53TechnobliteratorWormy, we can just use yours
02:39.55Technobliteratorit's fine
02:39.55WormyI'm not either way atm but I do worry
02:40.23HachimanWe shouldn't have a new admin if the new users think that the community is dictated purely by a number of votes. And besides, adminship isn't representation, it's maintenance, and we have enough wiki maintainers already to keep the place going
02:40.30MasterMachineWormy, when they say forum are they talking about the blogs?
02:40.39The_RandomnessI agree with Hachi here
02:40.45WormyI do worry that, like I said, by giving a representative, it strengthens the idea that adminship should be a social matter, not status.  Or that there is a need for representatives... For factions
02:40.58WormyThough it does in a way sound nice
02:41.00Tek0516Mastermachine: We added Wiki forums a while ago.
02:41.05OluapPlayerI can't post anything on that forum without going into passive aggressive territory, so I'll just keep out of the discussion
02:41.07HachimanThat's exactly what I said; it promotes factionism
02:41.13Wormy*OR status, sorry
02:41.16OluapPlayerI believe everyone here knows my opinion on the subject anyway
02:41.21HachimanAye
02:41.22DrodoEmpireLike I said I disagree; Its the rather sad reality that adminship does to some extent equal social status
02:41.26MasterMachineI think it would be wiser to get some fresh blood into the adminship. Not because it's needed but rather because it will help settle disputes over bias and representation.
02:41.32WormyThats fine OP
02:41.41MasterMachineNot saying there are disputes, but just that people percieve it that way.
02:41.46MasterMachineOr bias for that matter.
02:41.53HachimanMasterMachine: Adminship isn't earned by begging
02:41.55Zilla_awayI think we have enough admins.
02:42.00DrodoEmpireSo instead of thinking otherwise, we really should try and get new representation
02:42.06MasterMachinePeople can earn it through work though, Hachiman.
02:42.13WormyYeah but, by making a new admin, it only promotes the idea further
02:42.14HachimanAnd the new users aren't working
02:42.25Zilla_awayWe need to drop the distrust and past rivalries, and work together.
02:42.28MasterMachineAnd why is that? Because they have no motivation.
02:42.32HachimanWe don't need an admin who does nothing but represent
02:42.34OluapPlayerMy only argument is that a new admin will not change how people relate to each other. This is a matter of groups of friends working together
02:42.35MasterMachineSo motivate them.
02:42.45HachimanAye, exactly what OP said
02:42.53WormyWhat about a method of representation that doesn't require power, like extra buttons that are entirely for maintenasnce?
02:42.54HachimanBecoming an admin will not automatically get you friends
02:43.16MasterMachineWormy: Like a sort of Wiki Council?
02:43.30WormyOr a neutra;/rational arbiter, as GD mentioned
02:43.54OluapPlayerI hate everyone equally, etc etc
02:43.55MasterMachineIt would definitly work, but only if all parties thought they were being represented.
02:43.58OluapPlayerNow I'll keep quiet
02:44.03MasterMachinelol OP
02:45.17HachimanMasterMachine: It's not as simple as that. The new users cannot organize or format the software of the Wiki like Jo can, or organize big community projects as effectively as Wormy can who takes everything into account to make things work rather than try to control them
02:45.18The_Randomness^
02:45.18MasterMachineThen f*cking teach them!
02:45.19MasterMachineIt's not impossible to do so.
02:45.19HachimanBut we don't need to
02:45.19HachimanWe have enough already
02:45.20MasterMachineThen why is there even a problem?
02:45.20DrodoEmpireHachi, you are assuming we are somehow inferior. This is what I'm getting from you right now.
02:45.21Angrybirds_Well... A lot of us have been around for a long time to the point where we are no longer *new*. Some of us have led big projects and communities in the past.
02:45.21The_RandomnessHe did not imply that, and you are definitely not a new user anymore
02:45.28MasterMachineHell, I was around in 2010 -_-
02:45.29Zilla_awayWhy not prep them, in case Admins leave. New guys have motivation, and we have a back up plan in case Admins leave for whatever reason.
02:45.38The_RandomnessStop trying to read what you want out of everything.
02:45.47HachimanThere's something known as *experience* that's needed
02:45.54HachimanAnd guess what? Older users have it
02:45.58The_RandomnessBut DAE elitism?
02:46.03MasterMachineAlso, there's no reason not to add Admins. More is better. Experiance can only be earned if they're given a chance to earn it.
02:46.11Zilla_away^
02:46.25TechnobliteratorAm I going to repeat myself? Stop taking this to the IRC. And for the record, I agree with Hachi.
02:46.41MasterMachineSorry Techno. I'll drop it if Hachi drops it.
02:46.51Technobliteratorno, you will drop it regardless of if he drops it
02:46.58MasterMachineAnd can someone PLEASE link me to the freaking forums -_-
02:47.02Technobliteratorand he, too, will drop it regardless of if you drop it
02:47.04OluapPlayerI'll drop you if you know what I mean
02:47.08Technobliteratorwe have a Special:RecentChanges
02:47.09MasterMachinehur
02:47.10Hachimanhue
02:47.11Technobliteratorit's there
02:47.21OluapPlayerBut yeah use a forum
02:47.21HachimanMasterMachine: I'll say this so it's clear. There's a saying that goes "too many cooks spoil the brothe." That's a similar case with adminship
02:47.31HachimanWe have enough "cooks" already and we don't need any more
02:47.32OluapPlayerUse a forum dangit
02:47.49MasterMachineOh found it.
02:47.54*** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (7bd31c85@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.211.28.133)
02:47.59MasterMachinelol, I was just confused as to the name. Hello Panda.
02:48.03OluapPlayerpondo
02:48.06Zillafire101Welcome to the danger zone, Panda.
02:48.24AdmiralPandais fully aware of that, he just brought popcorn to the show
02:48.29OluapPlayerDon't do that
02:48.45OluapPlayerAnyway
02:48.48WormyYeah, Xho optioned to go out in the end
02:48.48OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: Did you see the update on Paizo.com?
02:49.00AdmiralPandamore seriously, if something is going on I want to see in case it's relevant to me
02:49.11MasterMachineIts just another argument.
02:49.12AdmiralPandaOluap: No I did not
02:49.13WormyI should say the only reason we have a lot of admins was because a few years ago, I was the only admin active
02:49.18OluapPlayerThe site got a revamp
02:49.23OluapPlayerAnd they added Bestiary 4
02:49.36WormyAnd I made a few to get the ball rolling
02:49.44OluapPlayerhttp://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/bestiary4/greatOldOne.html#great-old-one-cthulhu wiggle wiggle
02:50.08DrodoEmpireI need to go.
02:50.10DrodoEmpireBye everyone
02:50.12*** part/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8e444213@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.68.66.19)
02:50.36AdmiralPandaoooh they added Lords
02:51.00OluapPlayerCR 30, 774 HP, 49 AC, +42 modifiers
02:51.07OluapPlayerYou obviously pit that against a level 1 party
02:51.43AdmiralPandaof course
02:51.49AdmiralPandawell, if it's a level 1 mythic party
02:52.01OluapPlayerhur, I just had a thought
02:52.14OluapPlayerAn army of wizards versus Cthulhu, using nothing but ray of frost
02:54.48OluapPlayerOh wait he's immune to cold
02:54.55OluapPlayerGuess that means he'd take no damage
02:55.31TechnobliteratorOkay, I've commented
02:55.40TechnobliteratorI hope that's cleared up how I felt
02:59.13Technobliteratoralright, now I gotta sleep
02:59.17Technobliteratorgoodnight, folks
02:59.24Zillafire101Good night
03:00.17OfficerJackal<PROTECTED>
03:00.19OfficerJackalNight*
03:00.20OfficerJackalDerp.
03:06.43Zillafire101http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United Bygorian Ascendancy - Cyrannian, just finished this, could you check it out?
03:07.04Zillafire101Fiction:United Bygorian Ascendancy
03:07.10CyrannianAh yes! I took a look a bit earlier when you must have still been editing it. I'll check it out now.
03:07.24Zillafire101These IRC links confound me.
03:08.05Tek0516You missed the "_" between words
03:08.34Tek0516[[Fiction:United Bygorian Ascendancy]]
03:08.35morgothBotPyTek0516 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Bygorian_Ascendancy
03:08.58Zillafire101I've been off the IRC for awhile. It's a funny story actually.
03:09.12Machine_Awaylol
03:09.17Tek0516There's also this lazy way when the bot is online. :P
03:10.24Zillafire101Yeah. My computer sort of banned from the IRC for a few months.
03:10.39Zillafire101It became it's own Wiki admin.
03:11.12Machine_AwayxD
03:12.10Zillafire101It kinda served me right though.
03:12.26Tek0516Goodnight.
03:20.47AdmiralPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188480 This for anyone who intends to read it
03:20.47Wormygoodnight
03:24.04TybusenAdmiralPanda: replied
03:25.34CyrannianZillafire101: Awesome work so far!
03:25.43Zillafire101Thank you.
03:26.39Machine_AwayAdmiralPanda: Also Replied
03:26.56The_RandomnessZillafire101: Looking good so far
03:27.11Zillafire101Thank you too.
03:31.25TybusenDid anyone know that there's a SporeWiki Reddit?
03:32.10AdmiralPandathere's a Reddit for everything
03:32.31The_Randomnessle reddit
03:32.49TybusenApparently Aquilo started one up a year ago and the only post on there right now is the "welcome" message
03:33.46Machine_AwayxD
03:33.53Machine_AwayWe should fill it up with posts lol
03:34.40Tybusenhttp://www.reddit.com/r/SporeWiki/
03:35.26TybusenIt's barren
03:40.33Machine_AwayI literally feel sorry for it...
03:40.48Machine_AwaySomeone link that to the main wiki page and make a forum thread on it xD
03:46.22OfficerJackalPosted on it. :3
03:48.46Machine_AwaySame. I r iz Mecharic :P
03:52.53The_RandomnessI've thrown my log onto the fire, goodnight guys
04:06.05Machine_AwayNight everyone.
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05:30.17GD12Hello
05:30.27GD12AD starts when i wake up tommorwo hur
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06:27.44Liquid_InkHello
06:27.52Liquid_InkTechno, you're up awfully early!
06:28.22Technobliteratoryup
06:28.24Technobliteratorhii
06:29.38Liquid_InkHow are you?
06:29.58TechnobliteratorI'm fine
06:30.00Technobliteratoryou?
06:30.08Liquid_InkPretty good
06:30.23Liquid_InkMy pet kitten had his first encounter with a laser pointer
06:31.39Technobliteratorheh
06:31.43Technobliteratorhow'd that work out?
06:33.28Liquid_InkHe was most excited
06:35.06Technobliteratorlol
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07:10.31dromOnly 3 actual active people here.
07:12.07drom2.
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07:53.13JepardiHi
07:54.21dromHello.
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08:13.49Sporeraptorhello
08:16.54dromHello.
08:17.00dromEverybody seems to be civil today.
08:19.06SporeraptorMore like everybody seems to be away right now.
08:19.33SporeraptorHave you seen my (lengthy) answer ?
08:19.58dromAye.
08:20.12dromI have read through all of it this morning.
08:20.54dromlooks into the other channel*
08:21.11dromOnly two bots, and two clients. Me and my android client.
08:21.53drom... if I use my android client as a sockpuppet. I'm no longer alone.
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08:30.17Liquid_InkHello
08:30.28Sporeraptorhi
08:30.43Liquid_InkHello
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09:15.17dromI have always wondered if that the Primal Zerg are the "good" version of the actual Zerg.
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10:12.05Sporeraptor_hi
10:13.04AdmiralPandahi
10:13.43Liquid_InkHello
10:18.16AdmiralPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188480 This for people who haven't  seen it yet
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10:25.04dromI have seen it. I don't feel like to comment. It won't help anyway.
10:25.40Liquid_InkLooks like a great idea
10:27.26AdmiralPandadrom: Do you have something against the idea, or is there something else?
10:28.00AdmiralPandain case you're confusing it with the arguments that have gone on recently, this is a fiction idea
10:32.23dromAdmiralPanda. I checked the link again.
10:32.28dromI was wrong.
10:32.33dromI thought it was the other thread.
10:32.59Liquid_InkI still can't believe that started over the fictional ideology of a fiction organisation.
10:33.43AdmiralPandait's an act of war for a Dane to walk over a frozen ocean into Sweden
10:33.57AdmiralPandaso humans are capable of pretty stupid stuff
10:34.30dromThe danes bit the grass when Swedes invaded Denmark during a cold winter.
10:34.56AdmiralPandaoh right it's the other way around
10:35.08AdmiralPandaa Swede walking into Denmark, not a Dane walking into Sweden
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10:37.37dromThe invasion was succesful. But it didn't last too long though.
10:38.34ImpyDroidHi
10:38.40Liquid_InkHowdy
10:38.58dromHi
10:39.03XhoOh man this forum post
10:39.08XhoToo many walls of texts
10:41.28Liquid_InkThey raise important issues though
10:41.33Liquid_Ink[20:33] <Liquid_Ink> I still can't believe that started over the fictional ideology of a fiction organisation.
10:43.07AdmiralPandahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188480 Xho: Once you're done skimming the walls of text, look at this one too
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10:54.47AdmiralPandahi oluap
10:55.26OluapPlayerhi
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11:00.58AdmiralPandahai buniman
11:02.20OluapPlayeromg hai
11:09.20Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188465#19 Have my piece of mind on this problem
11:13.37XhoI honestly don't think this problem can be solved
11:13.51OluapPlayerGood points
11:13.54OluapPlayerrages all he wants
11:14.55XhoAdmittedly a part of me wants to be an admin again but if it doesn't change the wiki's attitude, then what good is it
11:17.05AdmiralPandaputs on an anti-death energy glove and pats Xho on the back
11:17.15AdmiralPandaI agree with everything you just posted
11:18.54XhoContrarily to most people I think ownership of galaxies is better than no ownership
11:18.59XhoYou risk hierarchy and anarchy
11:19.41XhoAnd, as structured and hierarchical as people are, no one wants anarchy and I don't think such things as no galaxy ownership can happen because of it
11:19.49XhoThings would gradually get further and further out of control
11:19.56AdmiralPandaYou need someone with an off switch, for those exact reasons
11:20.20AdmiralPandaif someone owns a galaxy they don't have complete control over everything that goes on, but they do have the ability to limit anything harmful
11:20.42OluapPlayerI'm not a fan of the idea either, but considering I own a galaxy with complete control over it, I'm probably biased :v
11:21.07HachimanI gave up on "owning" Andromeda for a reason
11:21.23XhoOluapPlayer: Objectively speaking I think Borealis is one of the few galaxies without any problems because of it
11:21.34HachimanAye
11:22.23XhoBut I think the wiki is too optimistic on the matter
11:22.37XhoDissolution of hierarchies is something users as humans cannot do
11:22.51XhoIt's a terrible truth but a truth nonetheless
11:23.52XhoOh lord
11:23.55OluapPlayerI'm gonna remake the Theriocephali picture since a lot of models in it are outdated
11:24.03Xho21 posts on that forum; most recent post by me
11:24.09OluapPlayerhoh
11:24.22XhoIf I were to make a quick comparison
11:24.33XhoLook at the Fantasyverse and then look at the Fictionverse
11:24.49XhoThe Fantasyverse is far more stable because there are less users in it
11:24.57XhoOr far less interaction
11:25.10XhoMore interaction, the more likely shit is going to hit the fan as a result
11:25.22XhoIt's just impossible to avoid no matter what restrictions you put
11:25.25OluapPlayerUnfortunately yes
11:26.17OluapPlayerI'm gonna try putting the sizes to scale this time
11:26.26OluapPlayerHow tall are the Skeltadraskeli?
11:26.32XhoHm
11:26.55XhoI made them to be taller than their former model so about 4.3 m
11:27.02OluapPlayerdat big
11:27.15XhoIt's my stuff
11:27.17XhoThey're all big
11:27.24Xhocuz puny humans
11:27.46OluapPlayerhyr
11:27.48OluapPlayerhur even
11:27.52Xho"hyr"
11:27.54XhoOluap the Viking
11:29.19OluapPlayerolol
11:29.42Xhohttps://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10247452_705698999489011_7278157001757088755_n.jpg
11:31.11Xhohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvG8kZ5IQAA7lOI.jpg I'm expecting this to happen to me later
11:31.54OluapPlayerhur
11:31.57OluapPlayerNah I doubt it
11:34.28XhoThis is also an unpopular opinion
11:34.41XhoThe reason why older users are 'higher up in the hierarchy' is simple;
11:34.45XhoThey know better
11:34.57XhoAnd they've been here long
11:35.01Xholonger even
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11:35.15Wormyhi
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11:38.19AdmiralPandaI love how casually you disregard the knives
11:57.24XhoOluapPlayer: Once again, Wranploer and giant monstrosity get classified together
11:57.39OluapPlayerWranploer - <3
11:57.42XhoI should make a Zí-Jittorám equivalent in the Fantasyverse
11:57.52XhoLike exceptionally vicious Forest Elementals
11:58.47OluapPlayerNeeds a Skeltadraskeli leader for the Dynasty
11:59.00XhoArnold Schwarzenegger
11:59.11OluapPlayerAHNOLD
12:00.13OluapPlayerYou should also remake your Oevrumine character with the current model to encourage Hachi to finish pages hur
12:00.22XhoI did say I was gonna do that
12:00.27XhoWhen however is another matter
12:00.31OluapPlayernao
12:00.41Xhobut I gotta go out to town
12:00.44XhoAnd get things
12:00.53OluapPlayeru get paeg don dat wat
12:00.58OluapPlayeror remake
12:01.00XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
12:01.01OluapPlayeru get it
12:01.10XhoNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
12:02.46OluapPlayerhttp://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140816114627/spore/images/9/96/Theriocephali.png and I remade this
12:03.12Xhoi saw
12:03.15Xhogud verk
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12:04.21JepardiHi
12:04.49OluapPlayerVurdalak - ghngnhnghngnhngh                 Skeltadraskeli - http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/810/172/a51.jpg
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12:05.33XhoI might make some golem race later
12:05.45XhoGIANT GOLEM CRAAAABS
12:05.49XhoCRAAAAB PEOPLE
12:05.57XhoLOOK LIKE CRABS TALK LIKE PEOPLE
12:06.23OluapPlayerwut u on bout
12:06.27XhoCrab People
12:06.49Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV5wmDhzgY8
12:07.33OluapPlayerThere's a new horror game being hyped about recently
12:07.36OluapPlayer"Five Nights at Freddy's"
12:08.11OluapPlayerI'm seeing /v/ shitting itself in fear from it
12:08.22Xhooho
12:10.26OluapPlayerYou're a security guard who has to keep an eye on four animatronic animals inside of a pizzaria at night. You have limited electricity and you have to keep a camera at them regularly, otherwise they'll murder you horribly
12:10.56Xhogeezush
12:10.59Xhohttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10406708_958105040885590_4990520072049682060_n.jpg And my sides
12:11.30OluapPlayerI gotta say these models do look creepy as shit
12:12.17XhoJust saw some screenshots
12:12.21XhoWon't be playing that one
12:12.54OluapPlayerhur
12:13.17OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/811/603/513.png
12:14.08Xhonah m8 ur alrite
12:14.23XhoScares me more than monsters in Silent Hill
12:15.17OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/vg/1408172517440.jpg
12:15.40Xhohoh
12:18.06OluapPlayerhttp://i.4cdn.org/vg/1408176017742.gif
12:18.43XhoCute and terrifying at the same time
12:19.08Wormyits like tasting the food before you cook it
12:21.38XhoRight, must be going now
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12:57.11MasterMachineHelllo
12:57.40AdmiralPandahi
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12:58.13OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/8siBODN.gif
12:59.07MasterMachinelol
12:59.35AdmiralPandathe funniest thing about that was "Gymnast - Megan Fox"
13:00.05AdmiralPandaclearly this was a parody though, if it was a real Michael Bay film there would have been miniature explosions every time she touched the ground
13:00.10AdmiralPandaand lots of narration
13:01.44MasterMachinelol
13:01.52drommy game is glitching out. So I have to close this window in hope of solving the bugged graphics.
13:05.42AdmiralPandaRandum just beeped me to say he'll be a bit late, still waiting on details of how late that will be
13:05.55OluapPlayerFUCK
13:07.22AdmiralPandaupdate: not likely to be more than half an hour
13:07.35AdmiralPandaso usual Randum
13:07.36OluapPlayernot as FUCK but still FUCK
13:07.41AdmiralPandalel
13:11.56OluapPlayerAdmiralPanda: Just so I know, can I make a cleaving power attack or can you only use one feat at a time?
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13:12.23OluapPlayerdumba
13:12.39AdmiralPandayou can do both
13:12.50OluapPlayernito
13:14.31Technobliteratorya dad
13:26.57MasterMachinehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188508
13:35.05TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, are the Loron Corruptus relations moved to another page?
13:35.21OluapPlayerNo
13:35.30OluapPlayerIt's a species page, it has no need for relations
13:38.11Technobliteratorah
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13:39.49The_RandomnessHello
13:39.52Technobliteratorhey random
13:41.59AdmiralPandahi u
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13:44.05XhoWell that was a quick and expensive trip
13:44.53XhoI paid £167.50 for three things
13:44.56Xho#costofliving
13:45.24OluapPlayerhur
14:03.07MasterMachinebtw Sporewiki has one of these... http://www.reddit.com/r/SporeWiki/
14:06.44XhoOh dear
14:07.42Wormy_Don't know enough about reddit but i have seen hilariously awful topics on it
14:07.58MasterMachinelol
14:09.08MasterMachinehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188508 - make yer statementz! Seriously, it would be nice to know what people think.
14:15.15MasterMachineCya. Thanks to those who've posted :)
14:28.37TechnobliteratorXho, was one of them guitar related? :o
14:41.53XhoTechnobliterator: None of it
14:42.04Technobliteratoroh
14:42.10Technobliteratorso, something else expensive
14:42.11XhoIf it was guitar related it would be more like £1,675 than £167.50
14:42.17Technobliteratoryeah, true
14:42.19Technobliterator:p
14:46.13XhoDancers To A Discordant System is bloody difficult song
14:50.59XhoThere's only about 31 seconds of it I don't know now
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15:06.26Wormy_hi
15:07.05XhoI take it you've all seen that "I'm in me mum's car" vine right
15:07.09GD12what am I forgetting
15:07.12GD12Ad resumes today
15:07.26GD12AD resumes after I read all these forum posts
15:07.29Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVJh-BsUYBg Here's the Kicath/African version of it
15:08.16GD12i can imagien agent nu doing that
15:09.27XhoNu - I'm in Kithworto's car. Vroom vroom.                 Kithworto - WILL YOU GET OUT MAH CAR                     Nu - aww
15:11.32GD12yeah pretty much haha
15:12.10Wormy_I'll be available in a few hours, but I must do some work first
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15:20.28TekDroidYay, Canadian cell service!
15:20.49TekDroid(still on the other side of the border physically though. XD
15:21.06GD12Minotaurs are probably my favorite mythological creatures hello
15:21.15GD12oops where did that part come from
15:21.21GD12but anyway hello
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15:22.44GD12hello
15:23.11dromHello.
15:23.18dromDid I miss a teaparty?
15:24.24GD12no hur
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15:24.45GD12I'm waiting for Tybuse/Wormy/Angrybirds/Cyrannian to get on for AD discussions
15:24.51GD12speaking of the waptor
15:24.55CyrannianHello!
15:24.59GD12Hello!
15:25.28dromOi.
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15:26.25GhelaeHello.
15:26.26Sporeraptor_hello
15:26.35GD12Yay a Ghelae
15:26.52dromHeyo.
15:29.07TekDroidbrb. Customs.
15:29.52TekDroidback
15:30.40GD12I dont beleive it was that ast
15:35.43Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSt1ptsOjL0
15:36.00dromFor a reason. I'm really pleased when I see that Naakji and Aemokians has got different names.
15:36.07dromNicknames in this case.
15:38.04XhoOluapAway: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=301317480
15:46.01XhoI just watched Dance of the Manwhore again
15:46.04XhoSanity meter reset
15:50.03GD12brb
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15:50.42TekDroidHello
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15:51.53JackleHey guys. I haven't been here in a long time
15:52.02GhelaeHello.
15:52.10Jacklejust in case you don't know, I'm NOT OfficerJackal if you haven't seen me before
15:52.23JackleI didn't even know there was a guy called that until I first joined chat
15:53.01TekDroidYeah, confused us a bit at first.
15:53.15JackleYeah. I kinda figured that.
15:53.19Jackle:P
15:53.34TekDroid:P
15:53.58JackleDoes anyone know about the game Thrive
15:54.03Jackle:P
15:54.27TekDroidAfraid not.
15:54.29Jackleand if you know, that's good because if you don't know, it's a fan made remake of Spore
15:54.58Jackleit's a fan made remake, with microbe stages, aware stages, all these complicated stuff other than just cell, creature, tribal, civ, and space
15:55.24Jackleand if you don't want that. I'm pretty sure EA said they were making a game called Planet Creator
15:55.30AdmiralPanda_I don't recall it being a fan remake, and that thing's been quiet for so long I thought the project had shut down
15:55.35TekDroidI always found it a shame the series just became ignored by EA.
15:55.47Jackleit will have the same Spore building system, but no evolution
15:56.29JackleEA hasn't left us yet. But so far, the only responses about it are in PMS and emails to them
15:56.57Jacklethere's a big chance they left us without telling us, and going to a new game, but I have hope.
15:57.12TekDroidCareful with capitalization when talking about PMs. :P
15:57.29Jackleoh, it's PMS and PMs :P
15:57.35JacklePMS sounds like a disease o.o
15:58.17JackleI think EA said that everyone is going to like Planet Creator more than Spore
15:58.30JackleI think they compared it as "the bigger, more likable brother"
15:58.38Jackleo.o
15:59.43JackleI'm surprised how you don't know about Planet Creator :P
15:59.53Jacklehow I know this? I read Youtube comments
16:00.03Jacklethe people commenting are the people who send the emails.
16:01.21JackleI assume you guys are either playing a game while reading what I say, or you're just silent people
16:01.26Jackleso I'll continue talking
16:01.41GD12back
16:01.45Jackleoh.
16:01.49dromWell. I have been kind of afk due to posting.
16:01.50JackleHi.
16:02.05TekDroidI can't even find what this "planet creator" is.
16:02.27Jacklewell, I think they said they want to try for a 2014 release, or 2013
16:02.30Jackleone of the two
16:02.35Jacklebut it's kinda already too late for that
16:02.51JackleI think they might have quit on Planet Creator too
16:03.17Jackleall we get for Spore again is an RPG multiplayer game that is NOT about evolution
16:03.24Jackleby that I mean Darkspore
16:03.28GD12do you have a link?
16:03.34Jacklebut at least then we can have Dark Injections
16:03.36Jackleno I do not
16:03.36TekDroidI think that post was a fake.
16:03.44JackleI heard about Planet Creator on a Youtube comment
16:04.15JackleI kinda given up hope for Planet Creator, but at least we get Thrive
16:04.30JackleAnd Thrive is not quiet or inactive, they are busy making soundtracks
16:04.33TekDroidThe only source I found was a Spore forum topic where someone claimed a friend who worked at Maxis leaked a Spore sequel to them.
16:04.53Jacklelately all they ever did is make soundtracks for Thrive
16:04.56Jacklewell
16:05.01Jackledo you have the link to that source?
16:05.10Jackleand when was it
16:05.18TekDroidhttp://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/80441.page
16:05.28TekDroidPosted in 2013
16:05.38JackleYES
16:05.46JackleThat's the Planet Creator post I was talking about
16:05.55JackleI think some people post the same message on Youtube
16:06.03Jackleyou found what I was talking about.
16:06.07GD12<PROTECTED>
16:06.07TekDroidclaimed early 2014 release, but lack of any official evidence since then means it's probably a fake.
16:06.13GD12Not even announced
16:06.21JackleYeah, it wasn't.
16:06.23GD12and EA announces their games way ahead of time
16:06.46TekDroidThese companies would announce this kind of stuff months or even over a yesr in advance.
16:06.49JackleThe people who read that forum post are probably upset
16:07.09JackleIf you ask me, my idea of a Spore 2 creature creator would have mechanics of a ball of clay, or a paintbrush
16:07.25Jackleyou can just hold and drag to form more shapes, and the design of the body base
16:07.38Jackleyou can stretch it out and everything
16:08.20Jackleand I also think it would be cool, but kinda complicated if you could make a base for a head, and use the mouse to build detail into it, make it your own head
16:08.29Jackleand it would all start out like a circle
16:09.04GD12I think a cool idea would be user created parts
16:09.09Jackleyeah
16:09.15GD12Generated in maya and rigged by a special program
16:09.16Jacklethe custom head thing is kinda user created
16:09.32GD12That and multiple spaceships i nthe space stage hur
16:09.46Jackleif someone took  my idea of making creatures like clay in a Spore type game, that would be awesome
16:10.18Jackleand maybe you could form legs just by holding on the spot you want a limb after you click the button to form limbs
16:10.41Jackleand a limb would grow bigger, and bigger and form
16:10.43GD12Except a mouse doesn't led itself alot to molding clay
16:10.55Jacklewell, it's not exactly molding clay
16:11.06Jackleyou use certain tools by pressing certain buttons
16:11.31Jackleyou could click a button with a ball of clay on it to add to the creature, make it bigger, add limbs, add head, etc
16:12.05Jackleyou could click a button with a pencil on it to add detail to the creature, a texture, or spines, etc
16:12.18dromcreatures made out of clay, I'm kinda concerned lol
16:12.37Jacklewell, it's not exactly the creatures made out of clay
16:12.43Jackleit's just the creator
16:13.05Jacklethe Spore creature creator has this torso that you mess around with the spine to make your shape
16:13.18TekDroidI think you rather underestimate the mechanics of that idea though. XD
16:13.18Jacklewell my idea of a creator would be to form it out of a ball of clay
16:13.27Jackleadd more torso/clay to it, stretch it out
16:14.00GD12That would be ridiculously hard to model compared to more traditional things
16:14.06GD12All that freedom in morphing the shape thatis
16:14.17TekDroidYeah.
16:14.26GD12That and even it could be done, making it usable is another problem
16:14.32Jacklewell, you can also have the classic Spore slap the part on the body style
16:14.56Jacklebut I'm thinking you could just click the button with the part, and then click the part of the body you want it on
16:14.57TekDroidThe main problem is it needs to be usable and approachable for users.
16:15.14Jacklebecause it gets annoying when the part moves around to the side or upside down
16:15.17GD12The thing about Spore was that while the creation algorithms were revolutionary, they were intutiive
16:15.25TekDroidYeah.
16:15.52Jacklewell, just think of the clay as the spine
16:16.15Jackleand by add on clay to make it bigger, I mean use the scroller to make the creature bigger
16:16.22GD12Except think of all the ways in which clay can branch
16:16.34GD12For the spine you uniformly make a segment wide or you elongate the segment
16:16.52GD12What you're trying to do is grab an arbitrarily large/small segment and morph it in any way
16:16.59Jacklewell, it's not all going to be spine
16:17.16TekDroidIn Spore all creations could be encoded into a simple 128x128 PNG. consider that.
16:17.34Jackleit's not morphing it in any way, I'm thinking like a smooth and round
16:17.37Jacklesimply that
16:17.47GD12Yeah but you have to morph the original shape
16:18.11Jacklethe original shape would be a circle
16:18.33GD12Right this is what I'm trying to say
16:18.42GD12*sphere you mean?
16:18.48Xhohttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140816161744/spore/images/c/c6/FrostDrake.png Remade the Frost Drakes
16:18.50Jacklethe torso would be circle, and you stretch it out how you like it, then you add the parts you need. A head, legs, etc
16:19.01Jackleyes, a sphere
16:19.10GD12On a sphere how do you get a circle of arbitary size on it's surface so you have an area you want to midfy?
16:19.13GD12*modify
16:19.13TekDroidFor computer a sphere is generally a massive number of rectangles.
16:19.24Jacklelike a round, simple, fresh made ball of clay, untouched
16:19.27Jacklewell
16:19.46GD12Even if you select that circle how do you choose the gradients of the circle to see how convex/concave it is
16:19.49JackleLike I said, you press a button, than you click on a part of the sphere, and it stretches out or adds on to it
16:21.00GD12What I'm saying is that its computationally hard to do what you want to do and even harder to do it in a user friendly way
16:21.06GD12GIven current technology and user interfaces
16:21.40TekDroidAlso for the record me and GD are both in programming. :P
16:21.45Jacklewell, you're kinda right. It does seem advanced, but so simple where you can just click, hold, and drag and you can spread out and stretch a body
16:22.04XhoI think...
16:22.08XhoSpore 2 isn't gonna happen
16:22.24JackleYou're probably right. But I'm just sharing my ideas.
16:22.37GD12It is a great idea providing technology allows for it
16:22.48JackleAnd there's also Thrive. So we still have hope
16:22.53GD12That would be the ultimate in creation capability, but for the next ~10 years we probably wouldn't have tech for it
16:23.00GD12Though it seems like an intersting area to work on
16:23.25GD12goes to work on how one would program it
16:23.51TekDroidlol GD.
16:24.00JackleWell, maybe instead of Spore, there could be a similar game, but about extinction. And that creation process can be used in that game
16:24.28Jacklemaybe you could evolve from a microbe, to a microscopic parasite or insect that preys on viruses, to the end of humanity
16:24.38Jacklethat would be real cool
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16:25.04Wormyhi
16:25.08Jackleand you could evolve and change the looks of your parasite in so many ways, and give it abilities
16:25.11Jackleoh, and hi.
16:25.16GD12Hello
16:25.24GD12whacks Wormy into Attero Dominatus
16:25.30GhelaeHello.
16:25.39TekDroidWe're just trying to say the technical and interactivity are much harder than you'd think.
16:25.49Sporeraptor_hi
16:25.49Wormyknocks it over
16:26.06GD12anyway, if you're free now we can continue Milky Way Campaign stuff
16:26.16TekDroidHello
16:26.49JackleI'm not a part of the scifiverse, so I can't have as much fun as you guys o.o
16:27.08Jacklethe only part of the scifiverse I get is Grox :P and no humans
16:27.09GD12suggests you join the Scifi Verse hur
16:27.12WormySure, okay
16:27.20JackleNaw, I live in da game verse
16:27.28Jacklethe Grox you see in the game are the Grox in my universe
16:28.33Jackle(btw, I came up with the idea of the gameverse rp. I'm the only person that rps and lives in it right now.)
16:28.39Jackle(I'm so lonely. :)
16:29.29TechnobliteratorSpore 2 is not out of the question
16:29.31TekDroidIt's just hard to get into another scifiverse when we're already deeply rooted into a very developed ome of out own.
16:29.40Technobliteratorbut then, I'm not much of a fan of Spore 1
16:30.14Jackleo.o Tek I'm not talking about scifiverse
16:30.22Jacklethe gameverse is the universe you see in the game
16:30.41GhelaeAnd Spore is a sci-fi game, is it not? :P
16:30.46Jackleand some of the Grox of the scifiverse traveled to the gameverse, and they're still alive
16:30.54WormyI think Spore is an amazing concept that was too large to be made or emphasised
16:31.08Jackledoes that make sense why I say the Grox are still alive or still here?
16:31.48WormyGrox in the sci-fi are way beyond the gameverse Grox in power, they'd probably come to control it
16:32.02Jackleand no, the gameverse is a seperate universe/canon from the scifiverse, it's not a galaxy. It's not a solar system.
16:32.08Jacklethey came through a portal
16:32.36WormyHm, I'm a bit confused, seperate canon generally means though fictions can never meet
16:32.44TekDroidYeah.
16:32.44Wormy*means the
16:33.02Jacklewell, let's say remainders of the Grox before their extinction, less experienced Grox, came into a portal into my universe, and the Grox  in the game are born
16:33.22WormyBut if they are just seperated by universes (connected by portals), the gameverse is really the sci-fiverse
16:33.44Jacklethey are less experienced with power, that's why they are less powerful than the scifiverse Grox
16:33.51Jacklewell then, you can just say my universe has less aliens
16:33.55Jackleand it's a big difference
16:34.28Jackleso you can welcome me into the scifiverse if you want. But so far, I'm just in a different universe
16:34.37Jackledoes that mean I can talk to aliens? Yes.
16:34.47JackleDoes that mean an alien can find a portal to come here? Yes.
16:34.52WormyOkay, but you need not stay lonely forever in it
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16:35.12Sporeraptor_hi
16:35.17GhelaeHello.
16:35.19TekDroidThe point we're trying to make is that if they're still connected that makes them part of the scifiverse.
16:35.19JackleAre we allowed to RP in chat or something
16:35.39WormyHowever, I'm not sure if you are allowed your own sub-universe within the sci-fiverse, its like the same rule we don't have anymore galaxies.
16:36.00WormyBut thats not up to me but everyone-else to decide on
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16:36.03WormyHio
16:36.06Wormy*Hi
16:36.07The_RandomnessHello
16:36.09GhelaeHello.
16:36.20Jacklewell, that might be a problem. :P
16:36.51Jacklebut I mainly want to start out in a new universe because there's too many people that will want war and all that
16:36.54WormyYou can certainly have a personal universe thats unconnected though
16:37.12Jackleand plus, there's that rule I can't talk about someone's alien empire unless I ask for permission
16:37.15WormyOh, thats not a problem, you are not forced into anything you don't want
16:37.16Jacklethat might take a while
16:37.33GD12You can be in the mainverse and not interact with anyone else if thats not youre thing
16:37.46WormyAnd you can be bold in sending messages and collaborating with us
16:37.48JackleI want to rp, but I don't want all the trouble of asking someone for permission to RP with their empire or anything
16:38.04Jacklewell, I really don't know how to send messages, all that archive stuff
16:38.19JackleI know how to do regular message walls to users, but not to empires publicly
16:38.22GD12Its REALLY informal haha, very little rules except common sense
16:38.25WormyIts not that formal, all you need to do is roleplay and most people will, or ask them to join your rp
16:38.47Jackleand I don't have any color code fonts or anything for my messages
16:38.56Jacklebecause the messages have color backgorunds
16:39.03Jackleand I don't even have a pic of my empire
16:39.09Jackleis this bad? o.o
16:39.10WormyYou don't have to use msg templates
16:39.26JackleDo I have to use a picture?
16:39.43WormyYou don't even need Sporee to be in the sci-fiverse
16:39.54WormyOther people can make stuff you you
16:39.56GhelaeIt's not bad, because nobody has any of those things when they first start out. And while they're preferable, none are absolutely necessary.
16:40.25TekDroidThe images and message templates are just visual aids to make things look nicer.
16:40.36Jacklebrb
16:40.47WormyI don't even upload images anymore, not because I stopped enjoying making them, I just don't have Spore anymore until I put it on my new machine
16:41.20Jackleback, I was looking at stuff
16:41.26Jackledo I go to Universal Discussion Board?
16:41.43TekDroidAnd even if you feel your creations look bad compared to others, most of the major ones have gone through many redesigns over the years.
16:42.11Jackleand, do I go to the Universal Discussion Board
16:42.26Jackledo I just click the start a new topic, or do I join in an existing topic
16:43.45Jackleguys, I'm asking for help. And I know most of you are admins.
16:44.03GD12You don't have to use the UDB to communicate
16:44.03GhelaeIf you want to start a new topic, the former; if you want to join in on an existing topic, the latter. But the UDB is just one of many ways of communicating in the fictionverse.
16:44.26TekDroidMost of the people here aren't checking every second and need a couple minutes to type.
16:44.26GhelaeMost people just use IRC to talk to each other about fiction.
16:44.57Jacklewell, I just want to introduce my empire
16:45.02Jackle:P
16:45.10TekDroidMost fiction discussion besides roleplay is extremely casual and informal.
16:45.26JackleIf you didn't know, my empire page is REALLY bad. I didn't even know I had to make a page about my creature first
16:45.37Jackle[[Fiction:Empire:Grogaroo]]
16:45.37morgothBotPyJackle meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire:Grogaroo
16:45.39TekDroidYou don't.
16:45.41Jackleoh
16:45.56Jacklewell, the rules said I had to make a page about the species before empire
16:46.02TekDroidNo.
16:46.15Jackleit appears someone deleted it
16:46.17TekDroidI don't recall that anywhere.
16:46.38GhelaeIt was more likely to have been moved. What is your username on the wiki?
16:46.46JackleJj131
16:46.47Sporeraptor_I'm pretty sure it's not like that. I don't have a creature page for mine.
16:47.29GhelaeYou should have a page to describe your fiction, but you definitely don't need a creature page as well.
16:47.59Jacklewhen I made my empire page, the things were REALLY off
16:48.02Ghelae[[Special:Contributions/Jj131]]
16:48.02morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jj131
16:48.20Jacklelike when I put a number of things, it went in the slot next to it instead
16:48.33GhelaeThere's your page: [[Fiction:Grogaroo Empire]]
16:48.33morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Grogaroo_Empire
16:48.58Jackleand I don't know any power sources at all
16:49.10Technobliterator!stats contribs Jj131
16:49.14Technobliteratoroh, it doesn't work
16:49.44Jacklelook at my page, the only things with actual pages are the milky way galaxy and sporebucks
16:49.51JackleI stink so bad
16:50.19Sporeraptor_And ? who cares. Not everything needs to be finished instantly.
16:50.27TekDroidTechnology stuff isn't important and some users can help explain.
16:50.27TekDroid<PROTECTED>
16:51.17Jacklecan anyone of you guys help me with my fiction, and actually tell me some power sources and things I can use
16:52.08GhelaeWrite what you want to write. Look at other users' fictions for ideas on things like layout and what things to write about. And don't worry about things you don't know. Why power sources are supposed to be vital information is a mystery to me.
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16:52.15GD12Hello there
16:52.18GhelaeHello.
16:52.20GD12Fun fact, AD resumes today
16:52.20Jacklewell
16:52.21Monet__Hi
16:52.29Jacklethe empire template wanted me to fill out all these questions
16:52.55Jackleand the empire template seems glitchy or fail
16:52.59GhelaeThey're just guidelines really.
16:53.04Jackleit puts other things in other slots
16:53.14Jackleto me it's just confusing
16:53.30GhelaeI'm an old-fashioned user who doesn't even use the forms. :P
16:53.44Jackleand why isn't nuclear a power source?
16:54.01Jackleobviously one of you empires have nuclear as a power source
16:54.17GhelaeNuclear is a power source.
16:54.27Jackleand the annoying thing is, they are all in the red. Now the guidelines are basically telling me to make pages for every one of them
16:54.36Jackleoh, well give me the link to the nuclear page
16:54.44Jacklebecause apparently it's not just called "Nuclear"
16:54.54Jacklenuclear energy?
16:54.57Jackleatomic bombs maybe?
16:55.05GhelaeThey're guidelines, not rules. And nuclear power doesn't need its own page; if you really want a link, you can link to Wikipedia.
16:55.32Monet__Jackle: There's nuclear fission and nuclear fusion
16:55.48Jackleis fusion atomic bombs?
16:55.55Monet__No that's fission
16:56.17Monet__Fusion = how the Sun produces energy
16:56.20Ghelaehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nuclear_fission http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nuclear_fusion
16:58.02GD12Wait I have a question, can I declare a section of AD non-canon (Father & Son arc w/ Aeo) since it doesn't really fit into the fiction?
16:58.10GhelaeYes.
16:58.56GD12Can I also declare Ameius non-canon since it interferes with the intended end of all Dominatus ending up dead or am I not allowed too (I am the cocreator of it and aeo seems to have left)
16:59.05GhelaeYes.
16:59.10GD12got it
16:59.31Jacklewait guys back, I was trying to do something
16:59.53Jacklecan you show me how to fit the link to nuclear fission into a wiki link with the [[ ]]?
16:59.53morgothBotPyJackle meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/_
17:00.05Ghelae[[wikipedia:nuclear fission]]
17:00.05morgothBotPyGhelae meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/wikipedia:nuclear_fission
17:00.26GhelaeIgnore morgothbot there. :P
17:00.40JackleNo. I mean turn the link into one of those [[ ]] I can fit in the guidelines
17:00.40morgothBotPyJackle meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/_
17:00.40GhelaeNow, I have to go.
17:01.07Jackleguys, I'm kinda bored of this. I'll see you later, hopefully one of you can help me.
17:01.11Jacklebye.
17:14.22XhoStella Artois is a godawful beer
17:15.19GD12Hmm
17:15.34XhoWhy did I even think of getting one
17:15.35GD12i think I'm going to make a cover picture for Mirus Campaign
17:15.39GD12bbl
17:16.59WormyBecause it was cheap?
17:17.21TekAwayI've got to get my GA working again. No point in a reinstall, getting a new PC before the end of the month.
17:17.43Monet_Xho: And to think al lthe efort they made in advertising to make it look classy
17:19.36TekAwaySo today I'm in the land best described as English-occupied France. :P
17:21.10XhoMonet_: Most people here say that alcohol tastes like piss
17:21.18XhoI'm not one of those people and I say Stella Artois tastes like piss
17:21.45Monet_So...it's French Foster's?
17:22.18WormyBloodyhell, a virus from a recipe site
17:22.56WormyI'm not really into lagers, I like real ale
17:26.18XhoFosters is better than Stella
17:26.33XhoFrom my taste buds' experience
17:31.44WormyTaddy lager is very nice
17:32.16Monet_I like Guinness myself
17:33.33WormySometimes I'll get tuborg or heineken
17:33.44WormyI do Hoegaarden wheat beer
17:34.37Wormythe glass makes it look like you get more than a pint but you dont really http://chichick.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/brussels-hoegaarder1.jpg
17:35.18WormyXho:  Hobgoblin, you'd hate it probably but i like it
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17:37.31WormyMaking my dinner now
17:39.05XhoI like Hobgoblin
17:39.06XhoMostly
17:39.10GD12Just made this http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140816173825/spore/images/6/68/HarbingerClassFighterPortrait.png
17:43.52Monet_Looks efficient
17:44.30GD12Making an appearance January 2796
17:44.34GD12*2795
17:45.29GD12rit
17:45.33GD12*rite
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17:49.52GD12_ngh
17:50.02GD12_My Window internet is atrocious
17:55.19GD12_summons Angrybirds and Tybusen for AD stuff
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17:58.23GD12_hello
18:06.15CyrannianHi
18:25.00XhoHm
18:25.05XhoI swear Origin has some games Steam doesn't
18:25.27Monet_Yeah.
18:25.51Monet_Origin is mostly EA games
18:26.03XhoI've had an Origin account for years but I only just signed back in a minute ago hur
18:26.26XhoI'll probably get Sims 4 from there
18:26.45XhoI'm wondering why people are getting angry at no toddler stage and swimming pools
18:26.59XhoI hated the toddler stage and I never used swimming pools is probably the reason why I am not angry
18:28.01Monet_It is half the "aww cute babies" phase of a Sim's life.
18:28.11Xhongh
18:28.44XhoI'm trying out that Create a Sim Demo
18:29.43Monet_Half the people tha are angey are angry that babies skip straight to children, the other half are angey at the prospect toddlers and pools will become DLC
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18:34.39Monet_http://youtu.be/yHPOiOr94L8?t=37s Yahtzee sums up Origin best.
18:35.32OluapPlayerXho: dat new Frost Drake
18:35.34OluapPlayerLooks pretty good
18:36.29Monet_I vaguely recall one time EA made a public announcement they they did not plan on origin sales and tried to twist it to sound like they were being more respectful to developeers than Steam.
18:36.47Monet_Emphasis on "tried"
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18:37.33GD12_hello
18:38.08woodpulpGreetings everypeoples!!
18:38.29CyrannianHi
18:40.18woodpulpLets try this again.
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18:40.48woodpulpLast time i did this it started a huge flurry of Rp with many deaths and a bunch of metric system debate
18:40.56Monet_Its amazing and befuddling that EA used to actually mean something
18:40.57woodpulpHere goes.
18:41.02woodpulpHow's the weather?
18:41.45woodpulpMy uncle used to work for them
18:41.48woodpulpEa
18:42.20XhoOluapPlayer: The hell have you been
18:42.37AdmiralPanda_Playing D&D
18:42.56Xhogeezysg
18:42.58OluapPlayerYes
18:43.00Xhogeezush even
18:43.08Monet_wat
18:43.12OluapPlayerWeird things happened
18:43.38AdmiralPanda_btw Xho: I remembered a campaign where magic in the world was controlled by music, so naturally we decided to form a death metal band
18:43.46woodpulplol
18:43.53XhoAnd I was not in this
18:43.55XhoThe sad is strong
18:43.58TekDroidLol
18:44.01woodpulpHomestar!!
18:44.27Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83WfkdhjsoM Play this and you become the god of destruction
18:44.37GD12_!seen Angrybirds
18:44.43GD12_~seen Angrybirds
18:44.44infobotangrybirds <18071d3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.29.63> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1d 2m 32s ago, saying: 'I agree with that one.'.
18:44.56TekDroid~seen Angrybirds_
18:44.56infobotangrybirds_ <18071d3f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.7.29.63> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 15h 59m 35s ago, saying: 'Well... A lot of us have been around for a long time to the point where we are no longer *new*. Some of us have led big projects and communities in the past.'.
18:46.04GD12_bbl lunch
18:46.21TekDroidSometimes the _ makes a big difference for ~seen. :P
18:47.45XhoRight
18:47.49XhoI've been bored all day
18:47.51XhoAnd I am still bored
18:48.36Monet_Xho: Is there any good point to introduce the Di in the Kicathian Dissention?
18:48.37OluapPlayerwrite Kicath stoof
18:48.39TekDroidshoves Xho in a pit of liquid fun
18:48.43XhoLiquid fun
18:48.51XhoI hear that as 'Liquid cancer'
18:49.19XhoWell I will do the Kicathian Dissension but I need Oluap and any other user who wants to be introduced first
18:51.53CyrannianI could do that, I'm not doing anything else at the moment.
18:52.04XhoRight
18:52.25Xhotases Oluap
18:53.41Monet_I can leave the DI for later then
18:54.24TekDroidI want to do fiction but everything is tied up in GC right now so there's not much I can do.
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18:54.59OluapPlayersadf
18:55.00OluapPlayerrite
18:55.01TekDroidHello
18:55.24Xho#DetergentStoof
18:55.34XhoKicathian Detergent
18:56.06Xhohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvLnVcrCMAAtyoa.jpg:large Simpsons predicted it
18:56.30OluapPlayerhur
18:57.49WoodPulpWhat the heck!? I left for 5 minutes!
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18:57.58WoodPulpWhere did this conversation go
18:58.01The_RandomnessHello everyone
18:58.03WoodPulpHi
18:58.08OluapPlayerrandum
18:59.25Monet_Simpsons predict everything
19:00.07Monet_Though whatever mechanism allows a million monkeys to eventually recreate the works of Shakespeare.
19:06.08WoodPulpProbablility
19:06.35WoodPulpPi is even more interesting in that regard
19:08.11WoodPulpAlso it's Infinite monkeys
19:09.10XhoWell, infinite monkeys probably means a 100% chance of any prediction
19:09.29Monet_My point exactly.
19:10.33Monet_Just as it takes an obscene amount of monkeys to make the complete works of Shakespeare, Simspons is able to predict the future because they have so many stories under their belt.
19:20.29AdmiralPanda_Managed to work myself into another down mood, I'll be around if anyone wants to talk about fiction plans but don't expect much out of me otherwise
19:33.12Wormy_awayYou just need infinity, it could be one monkey typing forever
19:34.18Wormy_awayInfinity contain every conceivable work, or jumble, of ban infinite number of hierachies
19:34.24Wormy_away*an
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19:49.25TekDroidHello
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19:58.40WoodPulpEven the chance of infinite monkeys typing it requires a time longer than the age of the universe
20:00.33TekDroidWell if you have infinite monkeys then the time required would be negligible.
20:00.40AdmiralPanda_actually, if you have an infinite number of monkeys typing, it would take as much time as it would take to press the keys
20:00.51AdmiralPanda_because one of those monkeys will get it right away
20:01.03TekDroidIf you have infinite monkeys you'd have every possible state occur at least once.
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20:08.03WoodPulplol
20:23.06TekDroid~test
20:23.06infoboti heard test is not funny
20:32.57TekDroidOh damn, things are really hitting the fan in the US town of Ferguson.
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20:34.25MasterMachineHello
20:34.57TekDroidAn unarmed black teen was shot by police, grew into a questionable racial issue, now it's escalated to riots with armored vehicles and they'ce just established a curfew for the town. O.o
20:35.40AdmiralPanda_nasty
20:36.02Sporeraptor_hi
20:36.06MasterMachine^
20:36.08TekDroidHello
20:36.11MasterMachine...
20:36.20MasterMachineThe ^ is to AP's post
20:49.51TekDroidOh wait, this is being classified as a State of Emergency in the town.
20:49.57TekDroidWow.
20:51.13Monet_Wow this is an intense escalation of events
20:52.08TekDroidRace riots, armored vehicles, state of emergency, curfew... wow.
20:52.38XhoOluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=301353925
20:52.53OluapPlayerfug
20:52.56OluapPlayerDooD
20:53.21XhoI was rather astounded to learn that the Planeswalker Helm fits Spy's head perfectly
20:54.12Wormy_awayNever go to the pub on your own, with no-one to talk to, you find yourself on the periphery quickly
20:54.34XhoIndeed
20:55.24WormyI wanted to see the live music but the place was jam p[acked, and much bigger blokes than me seemed to be beating me to bar everytime, gave up getting a drink in the end
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20:58.59Knight_AlienHello
21:11.02XhoOluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=301462540 \m/
21:11.28OluapPlayerhoh
21:12.10dromBehold! http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140816211015/spore/images/2/20/Naakjicrusier02.png
21:12.32WoodPulpHoh
21:12.34WoodPulplee
21:12.37WoodPulpSHHHHHHH
21:13.15Xhoapproves
21:13.17WoodPulpIT's really too bad you can't make fleets in Spore, like with capital ships or cargo ships or whater
21:13.32WoodPulpWhatever
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21:13.53WoodPulpHi
21:14.19TekDroidDrom: That is... woah.
21:14.46dromMy daily job's done.
21:14.48TekDroidWoodPulp: you can assemble groups of ships for images in GA.
21:14.49dromG'night.
21:15.11TekDroidDid you remove complexity limit?
21:15.17TekDroidToo late..
21:15.33WoodPulpI guess by the end of space stage you kinda pilot the equivalent of a battleship as far as firepower
21:15.35XhoThat's a plausible creation to make with complexity limits
21:15.38dromdroidYes. I used a modified cfg too.
21:15.44XhoOh wait
21:15.55XhoI withdraw my statement
21:16.05WoodPulpbut it's the same size as your puny little starter ship
21:16.30TekDroidSize isn't the most important factor. ;)
21:17.42WoodPulpBut you can't ever make like Super Star destroyah fleets with hundreds of turrets and fighter bays and stuff
21:17.53WoodPulpOr like giant death stars
21:18.10TekDroidAfter all, our biggest and most powerful ships in RL right now are the tiny destroyers
21:18.25dromdroidWhen wilk colladaexport happen for all creators?
21:18.37WoodPulpOk
21:18.39TekDroidHm?
21:19.22WoodPulpbut I still think its silly for the Supreme Ruler of an interstellar nation having to run around and attend to every single task in his empire all by himself
21:19.47WoodPulpOk so you can add a little extra dps in theform of ally ships
21:20.43WoodPulpThe game makes a big deal of "Now you can multitask" when you enter tribal, expands on it in Civ, and then completely drops it in Space
21:21.18WoodPulpWell now I'm just ranting to myself
21:21.19TekDroidYeah, made running a larger empire rather difficult.
21:21.37Monet_I want assistants.
21:21.52dromdroidFor what?
21:21.54Monet_One is a galactic emperor
21:22.05WoodPulpRight! and all the other interstellar civilizations all have HUGE fleets to protect their planets no to mention trading or as fleet members
21:22.20TekDroidEven a "delegate" option for planets. Or automated colonization/terraforming.
21:22.30Monet_Why must one have to visit every planet and shoot down every pirate or tend to every owie
21:22.51WoodPulpEvery single FRICKING ECODISASTER
21:23.09dromdroidMonet_: Buy uber turrets.
21:23.17Monet_Planet - Help us, we can't sustain our planet for shit!
21:23.21dromdroidSpam then on a planet
21:23.28dromdroid???
21:23.37WoodPulpI AM THE SUPREME RULER OF THE _____ NATION. I DEMAND A HUGE FLEET OF SHIPS TO DO MY BIDDING FOR ME.
21:23.39TekDroidNot even just your empire, even other Empires can't breathe on theor own.
21:23.41dromdroidPirate'proof!
21:23.56Xho"I AM THE SUPREME RULER OF THE _____ NATION. I DEMAND A HUGE FLEET OF SHIPS TO DO MY BIDDING FOR ME." Pretty much Kithworto in the Kicathian Dissension
21:24.21WoodPulpYou, colonize this planet. You, defend the colony. You, sell spice to the highest bidder. You, pick up a dozen eggs on the way home
21:24.35WoodPulpI'm not in to fanfic
21:24.42WoodPulpof any description
21:24.43TekDroidDromdroid: Except uber turrets are very expensive and require spice grinding to cover everything.
21:24.47dromdroidWe should lynch the kicath from our premies.
21:25.09dromdroidTekDroid: Mods.
21:25.25XhoOluapPlayer: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10371760_645404485536983_5231249494672064948_n.jpg
21:25.37XhoKicath - y u do dis
21:25.47OluapPlayerDon't get it
21:25.51dromdroidMods are the one and the only true answer against grinding
21:26.17Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdIT74L8hGI See this
21:27.29Monet_I have to say, I smirked quite a bit when GTA V introduced me to "Fabien", an effemenate Yoga teacher who greets everyone with "Namaste" and wears a black vest with an East-Asian character on the front.
21:28.47Monet_I'm surprised he doesn't have a Toyota Prius (or he does and I haven't noticed)
21:28.52WoodPulpI have the feeling that everyone from LA was like "Yep, that's my neighbor. Don't see what's weird about it" when they saw that guy
21:29.10WoodPulpEVERYONE IN LA DRIVES A PRIUS
21:29.13WoodPulpSERIOUSLY
21:29.31Monet_Also I think Fabien's from San Fierro(ransisco)
21:29.59Monet_That just adds to his stereotypical image
21:30.03XhoMonet_: The character means 'peace' if you're wondering
21:30.12Monet_Xho_: Thank you
21:31.20Monet_I lughed hard when the failure dondition for the game's first yoga mission is "Michael did not reach enlightenment"
21:31.25Monet_laughed*
21:31.49WoodPulpOluaplayer went really quiet after Xho posted that Youtube link...
21:32.07XhoOluap couldn't handle the awesomeness of F.H.R.I.T.P
21:32.28dromdroidHe's whimping in a corner.
21:33.24Monet_Woodpulp: Literally everyone? Thanks LA for destroying the Prius' intention.
21:33.47WoodPulpOk not literally
21:33.55Monet_Most people then
21:33.57WoodPulpdang grammar nazis...grumble...
21:34.20Monet_I live in the UK, so I have no firsthand understanding of what LA is like
21:34.25WoodPulpLets just say I saw far more priuses in LA than I have ever seen in MN
21:34.34WoodPulpIts a lot like Los Santos
21:34.38XhoI think it's basically a more nutty version of New York
21:34.52XhoNew York is quite nuts for a British person mind you
21:35.02Monet_I know Los Santos was based on LA and I figured LS was an obscene cariacature of it
21:35.02WoodPulpI have been to britain
21:35.11WoodPulpYes
21:35.17XhoWere you bored out of your skull by any chance
21:35.23WoodPulpBut a very recognizable caricature
21:35.37WoodPulpWell I broke my leg on a trampoline the first day so no
21:35.53Monet_Trampolines are evil! I knew it!
21:36.04WoodPulpAlso I was 7 and my cousin (with whom we were staying) had Action Man or something like that so no
21:36.13Jepardihttp://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aVQQbPd_460s.jpg
21:36.16WoodPulpIts like a GI Joe clone
21:36.30Monet_Yeah kinda
21:36.49Monet_Only I don't know who Action Man is based on
21:37.17WoodPulpWow, I totally thought I got the name wrong
21:37.26OluapPlayerActually I'm distracted with something else
21:37.29WoodPulpI didn't think it was THAT unimaginative
21:37.47WormyI once had an action man who would come off a parachute from a kite
21:38.21WoodPulpYeah. Me and my Cousin were dropping rescue heroes out of a 2 story window with shopping bag parachutes
21:38.21Monet_Woodpulp: I wouldn't say G.I. Joe gets points for imagination either.
21:38.24WormyI think my mum and dad bought it for themselves really, who clearly got more fun out of it than me
21:38.25WoodPulpit was pretty sick
21:38.38WoodPulp@Monet_ Touche
21:38.58Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Allied_Terran_Republic/Navy - New page.
21:39.21WoodPulpOh gosh fanfic
21:39.24WoodPulpI'm out
21:39.27Monet_http://www.museumofchildhood.org.uk/__images/site-images/collections-images/dolls-images/sindy-1964.jpg also here's Cindy, AKA British Barbie.
21:39.34Monet_Awww
21:40.26WormyThis came runners up in a ship building competition http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140322231611/spore/images/4/49/HumanRepublicSentinal.png
21:42.17Monet_Wormy: Nice one. Its a very good build so I say it deserves it.
21:42.28dromdroidIs there still competitions?
21:42.29Wormythanks
21:42.38Monet_My favourite bit was the opening in the middle
21:43.17WormyWell, it was a couple of years ago on the Sporepedia, and people started to notice my ships
21:43.32WormyAnd there was a competition held by TheShipBuilder
21:43.46WormyIf he still does them, its worth joining in
21:44.05WormyActually, I think you entered one, didn't you Monet?
21:44.44Monet_I did.
21:45.06Monet_He liked the wings but I don't think I placed anywhere significant
21:45.25WormyIts been so long since I've been in the spore editor, I hope I haven't lost it
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22:01.58GD12Hello
22:02.05Sporeraptor_hi
22:02.50TekDroidHello
22:03.11MasterMachinehey
22:23.37XhoOluapPlayer: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130207210025/disney/images/3/32/Hercules-disneyscreencaps.com-520.jpg This is pretty much you and I
22:26.36OluapPlayerhur
22:26.51OluapPlayerdat meens u get punched in the face in the end
22:26.58XhoYeah that's about right
22:34.39XhoI should really do a clip of Hades on Gmod and put Nightmare Medic in his place
22:35.16OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rIxWqcBk4M NEW JON
22:35.33Technobliterator:OO
22:35.45Technobliteratorman, it feels good to hear that music at the start of his vids
22:35.59XhoIs it me or has Jon lost weight
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22:39.14Vincent__Hi?
22:39.22Vincent__Is there anyone?
22:39.23CyrannianHello there
22:39.29Vincent__Ho, hi!
22:39.31Monet_Hello. Peope lare here
22:39.46Guest53703Grr, I'm having trouble with user names
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22:42.15GD12Yes people are here
22:42.21Vincent20100Nice
22:42.46Vincent20100I'm kinda new to this whole wiki thingy.
22:42.50CyrannianWelcome back
22:43.18Vincent20100Thanks
22:43.59Vincent20100I was wondering how the hell are you making such cool images for your fictions pages?
22:44.42XhoThe same way anything cool is made really
22:44.45XhoTime and patience
22:44.51XhoAnd occasionally image editing programs
22:44.59Vincent20100Thanks ^^
22:46.26WormyI usually make scenes in GA, then I might edit them with programs later
22:48.26Vincent20100I should really get this expansion, I'm still playing the vanilla version.
22:48.41CyrannianIt's definitely worth it. I hardly ever play the vanilla game.
22:49.05XhoI only use the editors nowadays
22:49.10Xhogeezush
22:49.19Vincent20100Is it possible to transfer empires built in vanilla to tthe GA?
22:51.32Vincent20100I would be kinda sad to loose my monstruous empire. ^^
22:51.44MasterMachinelol
22:51.54MasterMachinebtw, hello Vincent :)
22:52.00WormyYou won't lose any progress
22:52.46Vincent20100ok
22:52.51Vincent20100Hi Monster!
22:53.02MasterMachineMonster?
22:53.12Vincent20100*Master
22:53.14MasterMachinexD
22:53.32Vincent20100Deerpy Vincentis deerping...
22:56.37Vincent20100I was reading all these Gigaquadrat conflict and I was like O_O
22:57.12WormyThe fiction or the err...  Debate about it
22:57.27WormyWe do some epic collab fiction
22:58.31XhoThis debate is really just paranoia that's gone berserk
22:58.49Vincent20100The fiction. I alsio read about this whole factions thingy, but I Haven't noticed it yet. I'm too new for that
22:59.04MasterMachineYou'll notice it soon enough.
22:59.11MasterMachineIt's a surprisingly big problem.
22:59.26XhoIt's probably the stupidest discussion in the 5 1/2 years I've been here
22:59.52XhoScratch that, it is by the widest of margins
23:00.13MasterMachineNot everyone feels that way, Xho, and part of the issue is that people refuse to take it seriously.
23:00.49XhoI can't take it seriously, it's really just trying to address an impossible-to-solve problem
23:01.10XhoWe've been discussing this on and off for nearly a year now and we go around in circles
23:01.38MasterMachineSo your solution is to let it get worse until the wiki splits in two?
23:01.51XhoI have no solution
23:01.52MasterMachineWe need to act on the assumtion that a solution can be found or no solution will ever be attempted.
23:02.09XhoThe wiki is much like a society in the pattern that follows it
23:02.29XhoHierarchy is created -> Goes nuts -> Hierarchy breaks down -> Reformed -> Goes nuts -> Breaks down
23:02.32XhoAnd so on and so forth
23:02.40XhoIt's happened a lot of times
23:02.55XhoAlthough this is the first time people have actually considered it a problem
23:03.09MasterMachineThen do away with hierarchy by setting up a democractic system where everyone gets an equal vote regardless of position?
23:03.26WormyWell, I agree its an inevitable part of human naAture, but you must admit, something is worse than before and it needs addressing so that people talk and trust each other a bit better.
23:03.28MasterMachine-waits for Hachi to say that a wiki isn't a democracy-
23:03.28XhoCan't happen, a hierarchy will form again because anarchic wiki structures fall apart
23:04.01XhoWormy: I call it user problems rather than wiki problems
23:04.07WormyI've considered a problem for ages, its just now we;ve managed to make it public
23:04.13XhoBack in 2011 if we had a problem with a user, we banned them
23:04.19The_RandomnessXho: That's exactly what I was thinking
23:04.20MasterMachineXho, that is 50% of the problem - people blaming one another.
23:04.57Monet_So the best solution is to sweep it all under the rug and watch it explode again a week or so later
23:04.58The_RandomnessThere's only one problematic group in all this, and they have proven to be disruptive and inclusive ever since they got here.
23:05.05MasterMachineAnd Xho, in 2011 the wiki was so small you could literally count the people on it with both hands -_-
23:05.17XhoActually it wasn't that much smaller than it is now
23:05.20WormyI think we can weaken the barriers the bit, afteralls, its all concepts and habits the wiki can reject if it knows how.  Its becoming increasing disruptive
23:05.39OluapPlayerTake this discussion to the forum
23:05.46XhoOluapPlayer: no u
23:05.53MasterMachineDuck and cover, the Player has spoken!
23:05.55CyrannianI would actually think the wiki in 2011 was larger.
23:05.57OluapPlayerI'm being serious
23:06.06MasterMachineOk ok
23:06.08XhoVery well, I'll make another statement then
23:06.08GD12ngh arguments
23:06.34The_RandomnessGD12: le internet drama
23:06.36MasterMachine-withdraws back into his cave to play Spore because it's actually proving to be fun-
23:07.04Vincent20100test
23:07.22Vincent20100isn't sure to understand what's going on...
23:07.25MasterMachineIt's ~test
23:07.27TechnobliteratorXho, I'd argue it's not quite the stupidest discussion
23:07.35Technobliteratorwe had a dumber discussion regarding the Cleanslate
23:07.44GD12My suggestion is that if anyone has an issue they're bothered about, they ask the other person about their perspective and they sort something out before feelings fester
23:07.50XhoTrue but that proved to have better long term effects in the end
23:08.13Technobliteratoryeah, I suppose so
23:08.18The_RandomnessI don't remember that discussion ever getting as stupid as this
23:08.28Technobliteratorit did, but it never went on the wiki iirc
23:08.38GD12I think all of this could be solved by proper communication.
23:08.53Vincent20100Speaking of galaxies, how exactly does one join one? I have read the wiki about that and it said we must ask people before doing so, right?
23:09.03TechnobliteratorUrm, it depends on the galazy
23:09.07Technobliterator*galaxy
23:09.28MasterMachineVincent, you need to ask the owners/managers for permission/blessing. Only the Milky Way is open to anyone.
23:09.36Vincent20100Yah, but I suppose the MW is already kinda overcrowded, no?
23:09.37MasterMachine^Which is another issue btw
23:09.48MasterMachineIt's got 500 billion stars, there's room.
23:09.54MasterMachineOr so pretty much everyone claims.
23:09.57Technobliteratorof course not
23:09.59GD12Yeah theres room
23:10.03Technobliteratorit's got billions of stars
23:10.09TekDroidMW is open, Borealis is closed, anything else is ask admin.
23:10.15Vincent20100Cool!
23:10.17Technobliteratoryou can cram probably thousands more in there
23:10.25MasterMachineThat said, I plan to add a new sector so that you don't basically need to join Katar or be isolated
23:10.32TechnobliteratorThere's also Andromeda, but I think you'd need to ask Monet, Hachiman or Imperios
23:10.34WormyThere are 600 million stars within a 5000 light year radius of Earth, in my opinion, theres space
23:10.41MasterMachinexD
23:10.51Wormywe aren't even in the densest region
23:10.52GD12Vincent20100 whats your fiction?
23:10.54Vincent20100Okay! Okay! You got me!
23:11.14GD12Right now that we're talking about something not depressing like internet drama heres a DT-ATR section of AD http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Defiled
23:11.24Vincent20100GD12: Algolurn Popular Republic
23:11.28Vincent20100Oups sorry
23:11.31Monet_Technobliterator: I'm trying to break down barriers so I'm more open to people moving in so long as they notify me or Impy
23:11.38Vincent20100How do you speak in reddish?
23:11.41TechnobliteratorOh, right
23:11.55GD12the persons name
23:11.57Technobliteratorwell, that makes Andromeda semi-open I believe
23:12.02WormyVincent:  They can join the http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AThe_Civilisation if you want!
23:12.09GD12If a string contains a person name the person views that string as red
23:12.46Vincent20100Thanks. I'm going to eat ma pizza and I will see about that, BRB
23:12.52Vincent20100Thanks GD
23:13.04GD12np
23:14.42The_RandomnessI'm off, bye guys
23:14.45GD12cya
23:15.12Technobliterator"Vincent20100Thanks. I'm going to eat ma pizza and I will see about that, BRB"
23:15.18Technobliteratoris now unbelievably hungry
23:15.55OluapPlayerhur
23:16.04Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188465#23
23:16.43GD12Techno http://www.incrediblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/worlds-largest-pizza.jpg
23:18.20Vincent20100lol
23:18.22Vincent20100Back!
23:18.58Vincent20100That'S one hell of a pizza!
23:19.37CyrannianYeah, but you'd probably have to share it. :<
23:20.03Vincent20100Unless you're 'Murican!!!!!
23:20.17Vincent20100put on sunglasses
23:20.18GD12Vincent20100 : Your page is very impressive for a new fiction page
23:20.24CyrannianAgreed
23:20.25Vincent20100Thanks
23:20.51Vincent20100I try to put some images to make it more pleasing for the eyes
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23:22.31GD12Images are cool
23:22.58MasterMachineHi Ink
23:22.59GD12especially tank images hurhur
23:23.16GD12This is probably the tank model I'm proudest of http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140510170343/spore/images/5/52/WarlordClassHeavyTankPortrait.png
23:23.19Vincent20100YOu know what's better than a tank?
23:23.23Vincent201002 tanks!
23:23.28GD12thats true
23:23.52Vincent20100WOw Gd... That tank!
23:24.07XhoI'm rather proud of myself today with my many brutally honest points
23:24.10XhoI should do this more often
23:24.13Vincent20100I'm trying to remember a game it remember me of
23:24.25Vincent20100lol Xho
23:24.47GD12Vincent20100 : 1 suggestion I have is for making a creature page for your leading species
23:24.48Vincent20100I have seen some creatures picts you posted some days ago
23:24.55Vincent20100Yah
23:25.00Vincent20100I will try
23:25.04XhoI'm still not too happy with my Frost Drake though
23:25.09XhoIt's a damn sight better than the last one
23:25.18XhoBut still not too pleased with it
23:25.24Vincent20100Although I'm not really proud of the specie I used for my Empire
23:25.30Vincent20100I will try to showyou a pick
23:25.40Vincent20100Still look better than mine Xho
23:26.08XhoWhich fiction is yours again
23:26.19Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Algolurn_Popular_Republic
23:26.55GD12"In such case, the Strategos (high commander) can choose to simply level the enemy's infrastructures to the ground with orbital bombardment."
23:27.02GD12I'm happy someone else uses the rank Strategos hur
23:27.30CyrannianVincent20100: Would they like to ally with the New Cyrannian Republic? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic
23:28.09XhoVincent20100: Strong start
23:28.36YugoslaviaVincent20100: Looked at your page, it looked good for a start, much better then I did.
23:28.57Vincent20100Sure
23:29.15Vincent20100The Comrade Chairman is always in search for new partnerships!
23:30.08Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:188547
23:30.11Technobliterator10/10
23:30.35Technobliteratoralso OluapPlayer, dat jontron vid
23:30.52XhoTechnobliterator: I just burst out laughing for no reason at that
23:31.09Technobliterator:D
23:31.32OluapPlayerJapanese are weird and scary
23:31.41XhoAs a really douchey statement I'm rather irked at the fact that I don't have a featured picture on the Koldenwelt fiction guidelines
23:31.59OluapPlayerur dhoochi
23:32.05Technobliteratordoes JonTron use an emulator?
23:32.13DhoochiExcellent
23:32.17OluapPlayerFairly sure he does
23:32.20OluapPlayerhur
23:32.26Technobliteratorit wouldn't surprise me
23:33.00DhoochiWe should really start on those guidelines at the bottom of that page
23:33.23TechnobliteratorOh, for the PSOne games, he probably uses his PS3 though
23:35.14Technobliteratoryou know, this might be the only one for a while I've seen where he's actually enjoyed playing the games
23:36.16Vincent20100DONE!
23:36.19Vincent20100http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:NewFiles?file=Algolurn_%25282%2529.png
23:36.28Vincent20100This is my first major sentient specie...
23:36.48Vincent20100Completly red...
23:36.56Vincent20100ANd with freaking wings...
23:38.17Vincent20100KFC would probably be frying them.
23:39.11GD12haha
23:39.26GD12Now you should go about making a creature page with a general outline of them
23:40.31Vincent20100Yah
23:40.40Vincent20100I added a section in the page
23:40.49Vincent20100Now, time for a full page
23:44.54Vincent20100I have already some experience for creating wiki pages
23:45.09Vincent20100I used to be a pages editor for Minecraft wikis
23:45.31Vincent20100It wasn't as creator-friendly as this wiki...
23:47.17GD12Ypi cam thank Technobliterator for that
23:47.21GD12*you can thank
23:47.46Vincent20100Technobliterator: Thanks a lot!
23:47.57Technobliteratorurm, sure, but what did I do? :p
23:48.00Vincent20100buy a beer to Techno.
23:48.14Vincent20100Thanks for making this wiki creators-friendly. ^^
23:48.35Technobliteratoroh, no problem, but it was originally Ose who started. I sort of carried on his legacy
23:49.07Technobliteratorie, I might have built most of what is used, but I didn't start building it
23:50.29Vincent20100Well, still, here's a beer!
23:50.39Vincent20100Cyrannian?
23:51.11*** join/#sporewiki Cyrannian (5f2c5c07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.44.92.7)
23:51.11*** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ
23:51.15GD12hello
23:51.19CyrannianHi
23:51.28Vincent20100Are you okay Cyrannian? :(
23:51.43Wormyhas the beer
23:51.50Vincent20100!
23:51.53CyrannianI'm good thanks! How are you?
23:52.01Vincent20100A wild Wormy appeared!
23:52.07Vincent20100Fine, thanks for asking!
23:52.28WormyThat makes Wormy a very dangerous Wormy
23:52.41Vincent20100*A wild drunk Wormy appeared!
23:53.09Vincent20100Cyrannian: Still wanna ally to the New Cyrannian Republic? :)
23:53.17WormyMy reputation for being drunk must be more far reaching than I imagine!
23:53.30GD12Not as much as Xho's reputation as a drunkard haha
23:53.40Vincent20100HO... Don't worry.
23:53.46CyrannianVincent20100: Of course! They'd be happy to become allies
23:54.17Vincent20100My and vodka (A.K.A. Godness' drinks!) have a long lasting love story
23:54.20Vincent20100*me
23:54.27Vincent20100Well, it shall be than
23:54.43Vincent20100Let both of or Peoples prosper togheter!"
23:55.11CyrannianAye, I'll add them to the New Republic's relation list
23:55.21WormyGD12:  I say funnier things, he gets mental
23:55.36Vincent20100Okay
23:55.52Vincent20100Let me just see how you did the green face thingy on your page...
23:58.00CyrannianVincent20100: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Cyrannian_Republic#Allies - take a look

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